Re: Thinking about Dogfood

[Vlad Harchev <hvv hippo ru>]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Gediminas Paulauskas wrote:

> kažkada, berods Pr, 2001-08-13 18:03+0500, Vlad Harchev rašė:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Gediminas Paulauskas wrote:
> > 
> > > ka?kada, berods Pr, 2001-08-13 14:59+0500, Vlad Harchev ra??:
> 
> Your Mailman is more broken than Evolution :) Evo always sends in
> charset which can display all characters in a message.
> 
> > > I have ONE problem in using Evolution. Actually there are more, but they
> > > are
> > 
> >  Lucky you. I can't use russian in my email address, I can't name my email
> >  account in russian, strings evolution inserts in my mails when I reply
> >  (localized "On <date> <who> wrote") get converted to sequence of
> >  underscores, subjects of messages in russian composed in OutLook get
> >  converted to sequence of underscores (since they are sent raw), so I
> >  can't collaborate with people using OutLook express at all. And Evo
> >  doesn't have i18n-related means any mature MUA has (ability to select
> >  charset to interpret the current message in message view with, ability to
> >  configure content-transfer-encoding to send messages in, etc).
> 
> Yes, the same ONE problem.
> See also http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2679
 
 In fact for all bugs I've opened a bugzilla ticket.
 The 1st three complaints in my list are listed in 
	http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6621
 But others (the last 2 are very important too) are completely unrelated (and
have corresponding ticket).

> Sadly Lauris can't reproduce this bug.
> 
> > > Also, I have only one problem with Gtk+ fonts. And I am using
> > > iso-8859-13 with accented chars. THis charset is one of least supported
> > > ones.
> > 
> >  What's the problem? I have no problems with gtk+ and fonts and koi8-r.
> 
> When I select font in gnomecc, system font does not change -- it is always
> helvetica 12pt.
 
 It's because 'fontset' has higher priority than 'font' in gtkrc file, and
/etc/gtk/gtkrc.iso8859-13 defines fontset with helvetica 12pt in it. Just
removing 'fontset' line from it will cure the problem. I asked Owen to kill
all gtkrc.$LANG files or at least make them not using fontset stupidly a year
or so ago, and the propblem was discussed on gtk-devel-list long ago AFAIR.

> Until I remove gtkrc.iso8859-13 file... Will file a bug report if I haven't
> yet.

 It's me who fixed gtk so that all characters have proper width when
/etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LANG is removed (available since gtk-1.2.10).

 Best regards,
  -Vlad