Re: GNOME/KDE interoperability hothouse
- From: Martin Sevior <msevior mccubbin ph unimelb edu au>
- To: Alan Cox <alan redhat com>
- Cc: Rob Kaper <cap capsi com>, kde-core-devel mail kde org, Jim Kingdon <kingdon freestandards org>, kde-core-devel kde org, gnome-hackers gnome org, xdg-list freedesktop org
- Subject: Re: GNOME/KDE interoperability hothouse
- Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 01:40:33 +1000 (EST)
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Actually, the current situation within the USA wrt technology related
> > law-making is all the more reason to go there. Americans need our help to
> > fight these kind of laws, not our ignorance.
> US citizens can fight such laws effectively, for a non US citizen it is
> very hard. They risk months unable to leave the USA, they risk
> deliberate use of race hate against arabs and political biases about eastern
> europe being used for jury trials. The fact they are extra-territorial is
> far worse. The US recently sentenced a Canadian to jail for trading with
> Cuba, which is -required- under most national law.
> (The same is true for any nation. When people seek to stretch and abuse
> EU law it is done the same way. The UK police were described by a UK
> judiciary held inquest as 'Institutionally racist'. I'm sure the european
> views of visiting the US match certain US executives view of visiting
> France right now and for the same reasons.)
> > And how would removing Free Software development from the USA help us in
> > any way? Leaving the USA would basically be the same as admitting defeat and
> > granting proprietary companies to do as they please in the USA. How is Free
> > Software truly Free when it's availability is limited to geographical
> > regions?
> With the current continuing rise in crazy US software patents, the
> billions of dollars being spent by media companies to own the US
> government and the like its getting dangerously close to an inevitable
> conclusion. I have lots of cool software on my website, a growing part
> of which through no choice of mine is not available to US citizens, only
> in the free world.
> Why don't we hold the meeting in Cuba ? They don't seem to have an
> paticularly problematic restrictions about who attends a conference there,
> or problematic extra-territiorial judicial claims
This whole thread is truely bizzare. As an Australian I find this
irrational bias against the US to be without foundation. As if the FBI
Marshells are going to swoop in and bust up a Free Software discussion!
Was it in Germany that a KDE hacker got sued coz he named his application
There lots of weird things happening all over the place and not just in
our small pocket of free software development.
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