Re: ideas on default configuration of sawfish shipped with Gnome-1.4
- From: Vlad Harchev <hvv hippo ru>
- To: Matt Tucker <tuck whistlingfish net>
- Cc: gnome-devel-list gnome org, gnome-hackers gnome org, sawfish lists eazel com
- Subject: Re: ideas on default configuration of sawfish shipped with Gnome-1.4
- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:39:08 +0400 (SAMT)
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Matt Tucker wrote:
> -- Vlad Harchev <hvv hippo ru> spake thusly:
>
> > I think that sawfish is a wonderful window manager, and I think much
> > of its power (and also power of X itself) is hidden from the average
> > user in the "out-of-the-box" configuration. I think that this should
> > be fixed as suggested below.
> >
> > Currently, there is no "destroy window" operation in the window menu
> > - only "close window". I think the ability to destroy window
> > unconditionally is one of the powers of X (and is very useful when
> > working with very unstable apps), so I think that this operation
> > should be added to the window menu. Addition of this menu item can be
> > achieved by adding one line to lisp file (I can provide a patch).
>
> This item was removed several versions ago by the primary developer
> (John Harper). I suspect you'll have a hard time convincing him to add
> it back in, but you might be able to look through the archives to get
> some idea of his rationale. I'm pretty sure it's been discussed since
> moving over to the new server.
OK, thanks for pointing it, I will check the archives..
As for convincing - I hope I won't be alone :)
>
> > Also it would be nice to include a "Menu for selected window"
> > operation that will popup window menu for the window user selects
> > after selecting this menuitem - this is very useful if one wants to
> > kill transient window or window without decorations (provided that
> > there are no keybindings defined for popping the window menu) - or
> > at least use some other item from window menu.
>
> Why not just bind "Popup window menu" to some keybinding in the window
> keymap? I use "W-Button2-Off" myself. ("W" being the key(s) used for
> default WM shortcuts, which on my system is Hyper).
>
Yes, of course I have it bound to keybinding too. The point is whether there
is out-of-the-box binding, and better, menuitem too, for this operation.
Best regards,
-Vlad
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