Re: Making the "default" GNOME theme explicit, for documentation sceenshots

["Eugene O'Connor" <Eugene Oconnor Sun COM>]

Hi Adrian,

You are looking at an outdated GDSG (V1.0). The latest GDSG in CVS (V1.2) says
the following:

"Default Settings

As far as possible, use the default settings for the desktop when you take a
screenshot. Include the window frame when you take a screenshot of a window. "
(see gnome-docu/gdp/style in CVS)

At present the GDSG is not automatically updated from CVS - this is the subject
of bug 116049.

For the 2.4 User Guide and System Admin Guide I used the default settings
specified at
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2003-August/msg00009.html. The
plan is to document these "plain GNOME" default settings in the GDP Handbook. Do
these "plain GNOME" default settings (that is, the settings that apply in the
tarballs from gnome.org) meet your requirements?

Eugene

Adrian Custer wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> In case some of you are interested, I've just sent the message below to
> the GNOME foundation board hoping that they might propell some
> decision/collaboration with the sun or red hat or other accessibility
> groups. If you have comments, add them here and future contributors can
> be pointed to this thread.
> 
> keep up the work,
> --adrian
> 
> **********************************************************************
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> As part of the gnumeric documentation effort, I'm evaluating the theme
> which should be used for screenshots. The current standard is outdated
> because the terminology used no longer applies. The current standard is
> also incomplete. For optimal documentation we need help from one of the
> accessibility groups re-defining the standard and giving documenters an
> easy way to set that standard.
> 
> The documentation effort wants to have a standard look for all the
> screenshots. That look has several aims:
> 
>         1) To show off GNOME as a fantastic desktop
>         2) To be readily legible on screen both in browsers and help
>         systems
>         3) To be readily legible when printed (both in colour and in
>         black and white).
> 
> These aims require that someone with knowledge about these issues, which
> I assume are along the lines of what accessibility people think about,
> decide on a configuration that best fullfills these goals. I personally
> do not own a printer so can't decide on either of the printing issues.
> 
> Documenters need to be able to take any distribution and configure it to
> the standard. GNOME ships in a million different forms (distributions)
> each configured with a different look (theme). The current standard,
> which was established way back in 2.0 days (I believe), states:
> 
>         As far as possible, use the default settings for the desktop
>         when you take a screenshot. Include the window frame when you
>         take a screenshot of a window. The default window theme is Crux.
>         The default UI theme is Default.
> http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/screenshots.html
> 
> In these days of GNOME 2.4, the only "Theme" config we have is from the
> foot menu: Applications->Desktop Preferences->Theme. This gives us a
> choice of themes which can then be configured more precisely by clicking
> on the "Theme Details" button which gives us three choices:
> controls, window border, icons. The guidelines talk about "UI theme"
> which may be "controls" and the "window theme" which is probably "window
> border". The "icons" setting should probably be GNOME. Note that we have
> not set default fonts or other settings I may be overlooking which are
> critical to the look of screenshots.
> 
> The current docs for the various GNOME apps have miscellaneous
> look-and-feel but the documentation project is not sufficiently advanced
> yet for this to matter.
> 
> Abiword:        no screenshots
> Eog:            looks like the current standard
>                 crux window border, ?default widgets and ?? icons
> Evolution:      looks different
>                 http://www.ximian.com/support/manuals/evolution_14/x474.html
> gnome-terminal: looks like the current standard
>                 crux window border, ?default widgets and ?? icons
> nautilus:       looks different
>                 no docs online.
> 
> Proposal:
>         The foundation should request that one of the accessibility groups take
> a serious look at this and develop a "Documentation" theme which would
> configure the GNOME theme, the window manager look, the icon set, the
> default font and other issues I may be overlooking. This theme must be
> configurable from the standard distributions: GARNOME!, Debian, Red Hat,
> Mandrake, Suse, tarballs... jdub has indicated a willingness to ship
> GARNOME with a suitably beautiful and legible theme enabled by default.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> adrian
> 
> 
> 
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