Re: l10n documentation from Sun

[Mathieu Lacage <mathieu eazel com>]

Michael Twomey <michael twomey ireland sun com> writes:

> Eric Baudais wrote:
> > 
> > Michael Twomey <michael twomey ireland sun com>
> > Bcc:
> > Subject: Re: l10n documentation from Sun
> > Reply-To:
> > In-Reply-To: <20001108150212 139051481C morse kabelfoon nl>; from StefanRieken SoftHome net on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 02:03:19AM -0100
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 02:03:19AM -0100, Stefan Rieken wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Despite of that, I think that the l10n documents should be part of the
> > > GDP in any case. Can you help Sun to get these docs in CVS? If someone
> > > who has currently got CVS access volunteers to put the docs there, then
> > > volunteer workers (this includes people from Sun) can get a CVS account
> > > and work on it (at least, this seems to be the right procedure to me).
> > 
> > I'd be willing to commit the documents for Sun.
> > 
> 
> That would be great thanks.
> 
> > > Both are (AFAIK) subscribed to gnome-i18n. I promised to keep the i18n
> > > list informed, so I'd also like to stay informed of anything (I
> > > subscribed to the gnome-doc-list today). You can also simply CC to
> > > gnome-i18n, I guess.
> > 
> > My personal feeling is that what happens on this list also affects the
> > translation teams.  So, I'd love to see more translators subscribe. :)
> > 
> > > I've taken some of Sun's style guides (for French, Italian, German,
> > > Spanish, Swedish and English) and coverted them from their native Frame
> > > Maker to XML. They still need a lot of work (converting to docbook,
> > > tidying up, changing all the Sun references to Gnome) so I want to put
> > > them somewhere people can get at them and help improve them.
> > 
> > Dpes this mean they are converted to DocBook 4.12 XML?  I would like to
> > see the style guides also converted to DocBook 3.1 SGML because this is
> > the DTD we currently use.  (See archive for reasons against DocBook XML)
> > 
> 
> No, unfortunately it means the docs are in Frame Makers XML. This is a
> machine generated XML file with a custom css. I can also save to .mif
> and .html if they are any easier to convert to docbook SGML. As I said
> these docs are going to need a bit of work. Ideally if someone can point
> me to a tool/guide for producing docbook SGML from Frame Maker 5.5 files
> then I can convert them myself.

import in framemaker 6.0/sgml and save as sgml...
It might work...

Last time I had to deal with such a pb, I just exported everything as text
and tagged everything myself.

Mathieu

> 
> > I think that the style guide is a welcome addition to our current
> > repository of documentation for new and existing writers.  I would
> > be willing to commit this to gnome-docu/gdp for Sun.
> > 
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> > I hope that this document will be licensed under the GFDL.  Using this
> > license is the best thing for free software and GNOME.
> > 
> 
> I hope this is possible too. There might be some legal issues I'm not
> aware of but I don't forsee any problems releasing this under the GFDL.
> 
> > > I've also created a Gnumeric spreadsheet from a set of terms mined from
> > > the Gnome pot files. Again this needs work since it currently only
> > > contains a list of English words and it also contains a lot of unwanted
> > > terms (mainly  people's names).
> > 
> > I don't believe that this belongs in gnome-docu/gdp, but somewhere in
> > gnome-i18n.  This is only related to translations and improving them
> > and is not a general document.  So, I'd be willing to commit this to
> > gnome-i18n or wherever the GDP and GTP decide it should go.
> > 
> 
> This sounds good. 
> 
> My only slight concern is that to be controlled properly under CVS the
> gnumeric file should be uncompressed into its native XML which makes the
> file quite large (about a megabyte). It mightn't be fair to inflict this
> on people downloading gnome-i18n over a modem. Then again I could be
> wrong.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 	mick
> 
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> Michael Twomey
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