Re: Mono and GNOME. The long reply.
- From: Martin Sevior <msevior mccubbin ph unimelb edu au>
- To: Miguel de Icaza <miguel ximian com>
- Cc: Jody Goldberg <jody gnome org>, gnome-hackers gnome org, gnome-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Mono and GNOME. The long reply.
- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 01:35:34 +1100 (EST)
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> I love Gnumeric Jody, I really do, but when there are way too many
> features that people need if we are hoping to deploy in large
> One very big feature of OpenOffice is the fact that you get the whole
> combo, and the whole combo right now is integrated. Right now our
> AbiWord, and Gnumeric are far from having the kind of integration that
> OpenOffice has.
This will certainly change if we can ever get AbiWord 1.0 out the door. We
have a very clean seperation between GUI and backend which should make it
easy to bonobo-ize and turn into a web-service. AbiWord is the only unix
application that I know of where you can drag and drop icons from place to
place on the toolbars because of this seperation.
In any case having spent a lot of time examining MS Word over the last two
years there is no feature in that program I'm scared of. Having OO as a
resource to raid code from just makes it easier.
Finally I think we should forget the great opportunity we (Gnome) have
over the next year or two to grab a place on small GUI applications. WinCE
(or whatever it is called now) ships with pocket Word and Excell.
AbiWord/Gnumeric could fill the same role.
> I am not going to force anyone to do anything (last time I tried to
> force people, Slashdot discovered it, impeached me and demanded my
> resignation from whatever it was ;-), but maybe the OpenOffice code base
> is a better starting point to have a full office suite.
I'm not sure this is true. The OO hackers with around 50 full-time hackers
have spent the last 1.5 years just breaking the application up so that not
everything appears on the screen at once.
> > With luck, cross pollination between the projects will lift
all > > boats. However, I think effort is better spent on extensions for
> > applications like Gnumeric which will be useful to OpenOffice as
> > they adopt GNOME technology.
Well OO have AbiWord's spelling technology. We'd like some of their
in-house fonts :-) We may also re-use some of their import/export filters
and they could take a close look at the RTf they export.
Are OO going to adopt Gnome technology? Which? Apart from our spelling
code I have not heard of it yet.
> I agree that we should have more cross polination between these
> projects. Someone should also seriously look at having OpenOffice use
> Gtk+ or at least use the gtk_draw api to get some theme similarity.
This kind of stuff is way beyond a beginning Gnome hacker. The OO guys
have to decide to do this themselves. At least they have to tell us they
want to do this.
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