Re: Python Update Program

[Ali Abdin <ALIABDIN aucegypt edu>]

> >  No rpm specifics, no apt specifics, no gnome specific, nothing specific.
> > Well this is great. You have solved LSB problem. Please forward that
> > message to these folks. And while you are at it, I'd like to see
> > something for people who don't like your program ;)
> >
> 
> OK, maybe a little bit of specifics.... ~,^  Basically, the update program can
> update ANY list of packages from any server, not just GNOME stuffs.  Later,
> like I said, I'll make A GUI version for GNOME (though I'll try an' make it
> usable for other archives too).
> 
> By non-RPM specific, I meant I don't want to build any kind of RPM code into
> the program.  If anything, I'd prefer an option like 'install-program' that
> could be set to 'rpm -U' for example, and 'check-package' which could be set
> to 'rpm -q'.  I'd like to make this non-built-in so that a simple config
> option would allow users of any Linux (or even UNIX) system to upgrade files.

Thats all fine and great - but I think there needs to be a way to 
'uninstall' packages (from tarballs). Sometimes there is no 'make 
uninstall' (and due to certain bugs somewhere (gettext?) make uninstall 
often nukes /usr/share/gettext/src).

Anyway - a good idea is to look at the 'install-watch' program - it 
records each and every file installed so you can go ahead and remove a 
package later. (this is from a 'plain' make install)
 
> As a related project, a computing club I'm involved in with a local high
> school wants to make a Linux distribution, and something I was planning was
> making it work with both RPM and apt... so that both types of packages could
> be installed, but hack the programs so they shared a common database, so that
> for example 'rpm -qa' would list packages that had been installed with apt,
> and that upgrading a package that was installed with apt could be done with an
> RPM... this would be kinda complicated, but that's the cool part of having
> 10-20 bright high-school kids with fresh minds: they'll figure it out,
> eventually.  ~,^  But this is totally off topic....
> 
> Um, anyways, I haven't really gotten any updates on the package type list...
> I'm jsut finishing up a few things, and I'll release the next version.  The
> only major features that need to be done is the ability to recurse in
> directories on the remote site (instead of just using a single directory) and
> the options to call an install program.  The only problem there is determing
> dependencies, which will be very difficult to do in a package-inependent
> manor...
> 
> Hmm, now I'm thinking maybe a plugin/module approach would work.  Using the
> update program, you could install the rpm-module, which would simply be a
> Python script that exported certain functions, that could do etc, and an
> apt-module, that exported the same functions but operates on debian stuffs
> instead.. OK, I know what I'm gonna work on the rest of the night!  ~,^
> 
> Sean Middleditch
> 
> >
> >  DISCLAIMER: Just poking at you with a rough stick :)
> >
> > > I don't want RPM specifics... I'd prefer something as package independent
> > as
> > > possible.  Plus I don't want any dependencies on any programs besides
> > those
> > > the system will have for sure (Like RedHat/Mandrake/Caldera/SuSE hacing
> > RPM,
> > > or Debian having apt, etc.).  The update program isn't only for gnome.
> > >  Although I may make a specialized version with a GTK/GNOME GUI later on
> > > specifically for upgrading GNOME, a bit like the Helix CODE Updater, but
> > > much more stable and usable for people who don't like Helix GNOME.
> >
> > > Sean Middleditch
> >
> > > >
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