Re: gnome-socket API proposal
- From: bob cs csoft net
- To: Miguel de Icaza <miguel gnu org>
- cc: hp redhat com, dereks kd-dev com, rmoya mail fujitsu es, zunino cli di unipi it, gnome-devel-list gnome org, recipient list not shown: ;
- Subject: Re: gnome-socket API proposal
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:49:49 -0500 (CDT)
Um, I agree and dissagree. It should be 2 librarys.
One with all gui related stuff, And one for everything else.
There is no reason to make a socket library or something like that
dependent on X.
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> > Well yeah, but the overhead is only for a small set of applications. If
> > you add it to libgnomeui, you make libgnomeui bigger and that impacts
> > _all_ applications.
> Not really. What does it mean the library is bigger? It means:
> 1. A few more symbols are included in the library for linking
> 2. It means that probably one extra page of coded is added.
> Under a typical setup, this extra page does not even play a role.
> until you touch the code on that page, the page is not even loaded
> from the hard drive.
> > That may not seem like much if it's just this sockets
> > stuff, but we have to draw a line or we end up with all kinds of bloat in
> > gnome-libs. Do you want to replace libgnomeui with a giant
> > Bonobo-print-XML-glade library?
> If I could get a way of linking those shared libraries, i would love
> to create a gigantic library that reflects the *best* setup.
> In SystemV they have libraries for everything. -lnsl, -lsocket. In
> Linux we dump them all in libc. Do they have an impact? No, they do
> not have an impact.
> > What are the criteria we are going to use
> > to ensure libgnomeui doesn't get any more bloated?
> Again, what is "bloat"?
> > I think the sensible criterion for inclusion in libgnome/libgnomeui is
> > "almost all apps would potentially benefit from this code." This network
> > code will only be used by maybe 10% of apps. gnome-dns is used less than
> > that even. That's why I was proposing that we remove it, along with lots
> > of other stuff (see libgnomeui/TODO).
> but the networking stuff looks very very good. It sounds like even an
> obvious thing to have in glib.
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