Re: New to Gnome Question

[jacob berkman <loolix mac com>]

On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 08:31  PM, Al Szymanski wrote:

> Ok, here goes. jacob berkman says that this is a working list so... 
> maybe one of you foks can answer a few of my multitudes of questions.
> To preface: I have downloaded/purchased and installed all of the 
> following:
> All of the Gnome packages from the MacOSXGNU CD May2002 edition
> XFree86Complete - 4.2.0
> xalf 0.12.1
> OroborOSX v0.75a4r2
> ORBit 0.5.8
> AbiWord
> AfterStep
> and about a ton and a half of other pieces that got installed with these
> I had Enlightenment on, but used OSXPM to remove.
>
> What I want is to have a good, solid window manager that supports Gnome 
> so that I can make use of Gnome specific apps.
>
> Q1 ) which wm is the 'best' currently on the Darwin/MacOSX/XFree86 that 
> will support Gnome. Where can I go to find the answers.

i assume you're using gnome 1?  most people were using sawfish with 
gnome 1.  i don't know if anyone's used it on os x though.  i currently 
use metacity with gnome 2 on both my macs - works fine.
> Q2) given the above wm, how do I configure it to fully support Gnome 
> and panel etc?
> 	When I launch XDarwin, I come up in twm

i use:

jacob localhost:jacob$ cat .xinitrc
#!/bin/sh
. ~/.bashrc
exec ssh-agent gnome-session &> ~/.gnome-errors

> Q3) this is philosophical, I guess. My experience with *nix's has be 
> always a joy ( as much as a chore ) and always had a 'guru' to call 
> upon when I screwed something up ( not often... but it did happen :) . 
> With the XFree86 and X windows stuff being so solid, why does it seem 
> that getting it up and running on the OSX so difficult. Is it just Too 
> New? or is there some really odd stuff to deal with. I admit it, I am 
> more of a user than anything

i think it's mostly that most people coming from the free software side 
of things that would be into doing this stuff are still putting linux on 
it, rather than using os x.  and those that try using os x might not 
know enough to get things working...

 - jacob