Re: the bug team and gnome2.2 [resent by Luis because everyone should see it]

[Luis Villa <louie ximian com>]

Note that I'm a tool and clearly not very competent at the use of
'redirect' aka bounce. Beat me about the head, please. :) 

Luis

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 14:36, Andrew Sobala wrote:
> OK, I'll throw ideas at you. Throw all of this in the new, pretty, GNOME
> trashcan if you want :)
> 
> On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 22:10, Luis Villa wrote:
> > *just as each package has a maintainer, each package should have a QA
> > person, or a QA team, much like nautilus (at least theoretically) has
> > ATM. Yaneti is the Galeon Guy, Kjartan is the GNOME1.4 core guy... we
> > need more guys (and gals!) who can identify with and claim their own QA
> > apps and build a relationship with the code maintainers.
> 
> And the QA guys should have written down what they have to do:
> 
> * Reproduce bugs for maintainers
> * Duplicate removal
> * Followup/close bugs marked NEEDINFO
> 
> Plus others?
> 
> What about libraries? Problems there are sometimes pretty hard to
> reproduce, even for part-time hackers.
> 
> > *triaged keyword needs to stop meaning 'luis looked at and triaged it'
> > and start meaning 'members of the QA team looked at it and triaged it.'
> > How do we do that sanely, so that we aren't duplicating each other's
> > work all the time? Also, we have to do this while maintaining
> > consistency- how is that going to work?
> 
> Is a "qa-triaged" keyword, and strict instructions about who is allowed
> to use it, good enough?
> 
> * At the moment, Luis decides which bugs are "showstoppers" for a
> release and when other bugs should be targeted for. Without Luis, no-one
> will be doing this...
> 
> Maybe the QA people, and/or (possibly in conjunction with) the
> maintainers, need to be able to suggest (not dictate) which bugs need to
> be fixed *now*. Maybe not :)
> 
> * A "Bugtable", like the Doctable, would be useful. Useful things to
> include are:
> 
> -- QA contacts and if they are on holiday :)
> -- No. of bugs without "qa-triaged" (or equivalent) set.
> -- No. of "important" bugs (implementation depends on point above about
> targeting bug-fix-times).
> 
> -- 
> Andrew
> 
> "Someone needs to make a 'woops' command that reverts the hard disk to
> the state it was in 20 seconds ago."
> 		-- me
> 
> 
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