Re: Astonishment

[Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller <Uraeus linuxrising org>]

As a general rule I think intent needs to be taken into the picture.
Martin and most of the Mono hackers work on Mono cause they want to be
able to create GNOME applications using C#. I am not so sure you Alan,
work on the kernel with the question 'what kernel changes can benefit
GNOME' in mind. However if someone for instance made a  retrace
interrupt counter for the kernel with the intent of improving multimedia
playback under GNOME I would consider that a GNOME contribution which
qualifies for membership.

Christian



On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 12:55, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 11:10, Martin Baulig wrote:
> > So is hacking on Mono not a contribution to GNOME, 
> 
> I don't think so. Its a contribution to MONO. I didn't list my kernel
> development work as a GNOME contribution although its clearly rather
> useful to GNOME to have a kernel. I suspect in a years time I'll also
> fail the membership test given my current set of projects. However I
> think thats a good thing not a bad thing. In ten years time do you want
> GNOME administered by a bunch of old farts who are working on other
> stuff but "Know what GNOME was about", or the people actually taking it
> in new innovative directions and know what it actually -is- about at
> that point.
> 
> Now if you are doing GNOME C# bindings then that probably is a real
> GNOME contribution, you didn't make that clear so I may be assuming
> things.
> 
> > However, my reaction to this rejection was that I asked the committee to clarify what is
> > needed to become a foundation member, whether hacking on an application which has a GNOME
> > UI is enough or not.  
> 
> Thats a good question. Its unfortunate that Mike resigned - its not his
> fault if the guidelines are vague, he was just doing the job and doing
> the best he can.
> 
> I'd suggest the board figures out what it meant perhaps ? Maybe if for
> once it includes a "Mono" argument Miguel won't be listed as 'absent' or
> 'apologies'...
> 
> I have *zero* time for the people who flame the membership committee
> though. Its either peoples own fault for not volunteering to help them
> do the job, or peoples own fault for not helping make the guidelines
> clearer.
> 
> Alan
> 
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