Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Fwd: Re: [evolution-patches] [PATCH] IMAP preauth and subcommand connection.]

[David Woodhouse <dwmw2 infradead org>]

On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 14:14, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:59, Anna Marie Dirks wrote:
> > the way that we present information which is optional to the user >
> > is to desensitize it, until the user makes a selection which calls >
> for it to become live
> 
> No, the entry isn't used by 99% of the users and is just a hinderance
> unless you need it.  It makes the dialog more difficult to parse and
> hence more difficult to use.

Personally, I agree with Anna -- but I don't care much either way. Sort
it out between yourselves and I'll implement whichever I'm asked to.

> > 1) In the druid, stop trying to cram settings for server identity,
> > connection type, and authentication all on one page. Just relax. We have
> > other pages, we even have another page for Receiving Mail stuff.
> > Constrain the widgets shown on the first page to be: 
> > 
> > http://primates.ximian.com/~anna/mailsettings/start.png
> 
> See what I mean?  It shouldn't expose the concept of a "command" to me
> in the default page.  If I am Joe Random user, I don't even know what a
> "command" is.

Neither do you know what a namespace is. And, for that matter, you don't
know what 'IMAP' and 'POP3' are either. Or what a 'server' is unless
she's bringing you your drinks.

You have to draw the line somewhere, Ettore -- and I think it's sane
enough to expect a user to be able to understand that they can ignore
something that's greyed out.

> The command isn't necessarily a security feature though.  So "command"
> should be a separate option from "secure connection".

Yes, possibly -- and technically I suppose we could even do SSL over the
socket we open to stdin/stdout of the command... but I wasn't going to
suggest that. Again, sort it out between yourselves and let me know :)

Perhaps I should split the patch into two -- the implementation and the
user interface which lets me set the appropriate bits in the
configuration? 

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dwmw2