Re: [Usability] Re: Mozilla Firefox 2.0 Chrome Changes

On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Shaun McCance wrote:

On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 04:36 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
You don't need a status bar to display a resizing grippy. On Mac OS X, Safari has a resizing grippy even when the status bar is turned off (as it is by default), Mail has a resizing grippy even though the status bar (yes it does have one) is at the top of the window instead of the bottom, and Preview has a resizing grippy even though (like Evince) it has no status bar at all. When these programs are displaying documents that don't need vertical scrollbars, the grippy has a transparent background.

What you can do in Cocoa and what you can do in GTK+ are two entirely different things. Right now, the only way to get a grippy with GTK+ is to have a status bar.

I wasn't talking about toolkits at all, and I don't see the relevance to whether an app *should* have a grippy when it doesn't have a status bar. If whoever implemented it in Epiphany or Evince was willing to dual-license their code, the GTK+ people could even copy the implementation into GTK+ later.

The closest analogy here is probably Internet Explorer, which had rearrangable toolbars on Windows 95 even though that wasn't part of the Windows APIs until Windows 98. Probably a bit of copying and pasting happened there, too.

Matthew Paul Thomas

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