Re: firefox user trying out epiphany looking for bookmarks toolbar

[Reinout van Schouwen <reinouts gnome org>]

Hi Matthew,

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Matthew Thomas wrote:

> I think that's another bad idea for much the same reason. It's conflating two 
> things -- bookmarks and browser controls -- that should be separate.

Earlier you argued for a search widget on the main toolbar. The new 
setup makes it possible to configure Epiphany in this way!

> >  Even if you don't understand what the text field is supposed to do,
> >  clicking 'Search the Web' will take you to Google. Smart bookmarks are
> >  still bookmarks :-)

> That is also surprising-in-a-bad-way, because it looks like a label.

Smart bookmarks on the toolbar could have favicons like normal 
bookmarks, that should solve any misunderstanding about labels vs 
bookmark buttons.

> It's not about "equivalent functionality", it's about being obvious.

I highly doubt that, for new users, a separate search field in the 
toolbar is a priori more obvious than a combined address/search entry.

> Only to the extent that 
> "http://www.google.com/search?q=jewellery+gifts+in+Birmingham"; is 
> harder to read than "jewellery gifts in Birmingham".

I also have an (unsubstantiated) feeling that a search history would be 
more eye-catching than the URL history, the list of visited sites for 
most people won't be more than a grey blur unless they're really looking 
for something.

> >  To be fair, all bookmarks in the bookmarks bar are plainly visible in
> >  the browser window itself.
> >  ...
>
> That's no good for editing, unless you're one of those unusual people who 
> uses the right mouse button. :-)

My point is that if you're editing bookmarks in the bookmarks editor, 
the browser window with the toolbar(s) will probably still be visible, 
unless you've maximized the editor window.

regards,

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