Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [THREADNESS] H.323 endpoint

[Julien Puydt <jpuydt free fr>]

Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le lundi 20 novembre 2006 à 21:04 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
> > Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > > I don't see the need to do that now.
> > The intent is to fix http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353533 , 
> > which will make ekiga more robust by using threads only when strictly 
> > necessary.
> >
> > Ekiga is currently a crash-test dummy for its dependancies. And it's the 
> > only one. That means that whenever any dependancy has a multi-threading 
> > bug, ekiga and only ekiga crashes, which :
> > (1) makes ekiga look bad ;
> > (2) doesn't appear as that critical to said dependancy's developpers, 
> > and hence doesn't prompt a swift and efficient answer.
> >
> > Isn't http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359655 enough to 
> > convince you?
>
> Not really. Because :
> 1) Ekiga exists since 6 years now, and it is the first time we have such
> a problem, just because Edgy was not tested

You forget the need to add some locking here and there when the first 
push to win32 occurred ;-)

> 2) I'm not 100% convinced yet that the right fix is to hide bugs by
> hiding threads

Of course in an ideal world the dependancies would take care of the bug 
fast and well. Unfortunately we don't live on an ideal world :-(

> 3) It is certainly not a priority for 3.00.

I also have some gstreamer code to perfect, indeed :-/

> I must be straightforward :
> - We have an excellent piece of code from you waiting to be completed to
> be integrated in 3.00

Yes.

> - There is an excellent piece of code lying in the queue for XVideo
> support

Yes, that's good :-)

> - There is another excellent piece of code from Google SoC for IAX2
> support

Yes, that's good :-)

> - SRTP support seems in good shape

We haven't had news since long, have we?

> - There is a WIN32 port to complete

Yes.

> - Ekiga.net needs an upgrade (software)

I can't help on this.

> - Ekiga.net needs an upgrade (hardware)

I can hardly help on this.

> - Presence support still needs to be committed

If it needs a commit it already exists ;-)

> - We have dozens of bug reports to fix in Bugzilla (enhancements, bugs
> in opal, bugs in pwlib, ...)

Well, indeed.

> - The plugins systems from Craig is not ready for production use

I'll let Craig comment on this :-)

> - We have the druid to rewrite

You mean switch it to GtkAssistant ?

> All of this before 3.00, ie we have 2 months left (December, January, a
> part of February).

Could you remember my poor old self why you want 3.00 out of the door in 
february ?

> So please do not start still another piece of code that we won't be able
> to finish. Your help is required in all other places.

Well, I must admit I have quite a few things simultaneously maturing and 
not that much time to devote to each of them. Still, I think discussing 
what's needed to change ekiga's threadness will help when we'll make the 
move.

Snark