Re: some breakages due to icons move from hicolor to gnome

["Matthias Clasen" <matthias clasen gmail com>]

On 2/23/06, Rodney Dawes <dobey novell com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 17:39 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > During that cycle a lot of icons from gnome-icon-theme have been moved
> > from hicolor to gnome, that has for effect to cause different sort of
> > breakages, by example:
> > - it breaks GNOME applications for people using them with a
> > non-using-GNOME theme
>
> There is an XSetting that we can set from gtkrc and is set by
> gnome-settings-daemon for this. We should be setting it
> in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.
>
> > (some time ago an evolution user using xfce was complaining that after
> > updating most of the icons are broken for him. a kubuntu maintainer has
> > just been reporting a GNOME application crashing on KDE with crystal
> > icon theme because gnome-settings-default-applications has been moved to
> > gnome theme)
>
> Applications should never crash on missing icons from the theme. If
> there are crashes, please file bugs with backtraces so they can be
> fixed properly.
>
> > - when login to GNOME, if gnome-panel (with some launchers using gnome
> > icons like web-browser) starts before having gnome-settings-daemon
> > applying the icon theme you get error dialog about the icons beeing not
> > found
>
> This panel issue is a race condition on log-in. Similar issues have been
> occuring with the performance improvements, where various applets
> "appear" to be missing to the panel, and it pops up the error dialog, or
> gnome-settings-daemon tries to get run twice, and such. I think we
> should just fix this race, so that things don't get loaded until
> gnome-settings-daemon is up and happy. Then we can just make it load and
> set the XSettings as fast as possible.
>
> > I've opened http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330061 about that.
> > The maintainer argue that installing icons to hicolor is wrong. So what
> > should applications do? Stop using icons from gnome-icon-theme? Accept
> > to be broken for people running GNOME applications from KDE by example?
> > That seems to be a compability breakage, quite a lot of applications are
> > actually using icons which used to be shipped to hicolor and will have
> > issues now.
> >
> > GTK has a xsetting since 2.8.10 (discussed on
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325546) to set an another
> > fallback before hicolor which can act as a workaround, but since no
> > other desktop set it at the moment it doesn't change the frustation for
> > users to have things broken on upgrade
> >
> > Any opinion on the topic?
>
> As stated here and my last comment on the g-i-t bug, we should install
> an /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc with the following line:
>
> gtk-fallback-icon-theme = "gnome"
>

Why not just make gnome-settings-daemon export the XSetting ?