Re: removing non-working things

[Ritesh Khadgaray <khadgaray gmail com>]

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 16:54 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:57:33 +0530
> > From: Ritesh Khadgaray <khadgaray gmail com>
> > To: Alan Horkan <horkana maths tcd ie>
> > Cc: Matthias Clasen <mclasen redhat com>, desktop-devel-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: removing non-working things
> >
> > On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 21:38 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:47:39 -0400
> > > > From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen redhat com>
> > > > To: desktop-devel-list gnome org
> > > > Subject: removing non-working things
> > > >
> > > > The gnome-ui-properties capplet contains a "Detachable toolbars"
> > > > checkbox, which has three issues:
> > > >
> > > > a) It only affects BonoboToolbars, not for regular GtkToolbars
> 
> > On a side-note
> > With gedit 2.8, this feature works ( with the stated bug)
> > With gedit 2.17 ( rawhide ) detach toolbar option  has no effect.
> 
> Sounds like either a regression or the Gedit developers have given up on
> detachable toolbars like so many others.
> 
> > > It would be nice if non-working thing could be fixed.
> 
> > > Toolbars are admittedly not much use at the moment but they are not beyond
> > > hope and could probably still be improved.
> > >
> > > > So I'd like to propose that we drop this checkbox.
> >
> > Sounds good. How about a option to hide toolbar itself ?
> > I rarely use them, and rely on keyboard shortcuts for most parts.
> > ( ps : i hate using mouse , or it could be just me )
> >
> > The only place where i use them is, Openoffice.
> 
> I do not believe these toolbars were ever intended for you.
> The are intended to be big and obvious ways to access commonly used
> functionality using the mouse.  A beginner is more likely to immediately
> see these options and use them, whereas advanced users could learn the
> keyboard shortcuts and do without the toolbars, or ideally customize to
> the toolbars to show items more relevant to them.
> 

agreed.

> > With windows, i found explorer style toolbar friendlier.
> > All toolbar buttons are in grayscale,
> > and coloured+highlighted when cursor is place over them
> > greyed out toolbar options have outline of icon ( sort of chrome looks )
> 
> I find that to be a rather strange system and rather a waste of colour
> icons which makes it harder to quickly identify things.  I'd be
> mildly surprised if no one has implemented a theme to do things the
> way you are used to from Microsoft, let us know if you find such a theme.
> 

i find it easier to focus on the toolbar icon,as the rest are greyed
out.

/me starting a search for theme.


> Sincerely
> 
> Alan Horkan
> 
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