Re: Regarding a new default theme

["Eugenia Loli-Queru" <eloli hotmail com>]

> This theme looks very complicated to implement in code.

If we want a modern theme for Gnome, it will have to be somewhat 
complicated. Half-an-hour efforts won't yield any major "wows" regarding how 
the unix desktop looks to new users. Besides, I already suggested that this 
theme should be half pixmap and half with an engine. Depends what buys you 
more speed/eyecandy in each case/widget.

> But I forgive you
> because you're not a programmer :-)

I am not a GTK+ programmer per se, if that's what you mean. Also, I don't do 
C anymore (C# and .NET is my thing nowdays (yes, I am looking at Mono too 
;-), with an unfortunate downgrade to PHP daily, because of OSNews). But, 
the real problem is, there is no real documentation on how to implement a 
theme from A to Z, you have to dive into Bluecurve's and GTK+'s code to get 
anything done as complicated as Butter.

>  All this could be done with the pixmap engine, but of course it will
> be slower and a more memory hungry, like all pixmap themes.

See above. Plus, as I also wrote in my first email, changes and 
optimizations need to be done to GTK+ too about this. In fact, there are 
some pixmap themes today that trigger some bugs on GTK+ that make scrollbars 
_very_ slow. Stuff like that, need to be fixed on the GTK level.

>  And the
> pixmap engine works by scaling predefined images to fit the widgets'
> area, therefore it doesn't yield as precise results.

If OSX can look as good, I am sure that we can put something together that 
will have a good result.

>  An alternative would be to implement this with an svg engine that is
> reasonably fast.  Another alternative will be, in the (hopefully near)
> future, to use cairo.

Nice ideas for the future, but not for the 2.10 timeframe.

>  Otherwise, I aplaud your efforts.  It is a very pleasant theme mockup.

Thanks,

Eugenia
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