Re: is gnome-canvas actively maintained ?
- From: Leon Shiman <leon magic shiman com>
- To: gjc inescporto pt, alexl redhat com
- Cc: timj gtk org, gtk-devel-list gnome org, Chipzz ULYSSIS Org, kost imn htwk-leipzig de, desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: is gnome-canvas actively maintained ?
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:26:15 -0500 (EST)
on Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:04:33 +0100 Alexander Larsson wrote:
>On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:05 +0000, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
>> Sex, 2004-11-12 às 09:09 +0100, Alexander Larsson escreveu:
>> > On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 04:33 +0100, Chipzz wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Tim Janik wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > From: Tim Janik <timj gtk org>
>> > > > Subject: Re: is gnome-canvas actively maintained ?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Stefan Kost wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > hi hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > can anyone with some good understanding of gnome-canvas please
look at:
>> > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156156
>> > > >
>> > > > as you already said in the bug report, gnome-canvas needs more
fixing
>> > > > than simply calling g_object_new_valist() here.
>> > > >
>> > > > and no, gnome-canvas is definitely not actively maintained.
>> > > > it'd actually need some serious fixing and partial redesigns, not
>> > > > all of which would be source/binary compatible. so at this point,
>> > > > the correct thing to do is to recommend not using gnome-canvas
anymore
>> > > > and to come up with a suitable replacement (there're some attempts
at
>> > > > that in CVS).
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure what you're saying here, but I don't think throwing
gnome-
>> > > canvas straight out of the window would be a good solution here
either.
>> > >
>> > > libgnomecanvas is actually one of the few *gnome* libraries which IS
>> > > actually portable beyond *NIX/X, and I'm not sure about the other
canvas-
>> > > ses - which may be a shame.
>> > >
>> > > BUT, given the amount of alternative canvasses, I would think a
(partial)
>> > > redesign of gnomecanvas may be in order for the next mayor release of
>> > > GNOME.
>> >
>> > FooCanvas is portable. Gnumeric uses it, even on Win32.
>>
>> Doesn't FooCanvas use libart_lgpl as well, which is deprecated?
>
>No. It doesn't. FooCanvas is GnomeCanvas without broken crap like AA and
>affines.
>
>> It looks to me like the ultimate solution will be a Cairo based canvas
>> as part of gtk+. But that could not happen before gtk+ 2.8, so we all
>> have to wait. :|
>
>That would sure be great for some uses, however for many users something
>simple like FooCanvas is more than enough. (For instance for the
>nautilus icon view.)
>
MAS is now (unfortunately!) dependent on gnomecanvas. we need a clear
community consensus. optimizing portability is a requirement.
leon
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