Re: Evolution 2.0 and GNOME 2.6

[Arafat Medini <lumina silverpen de>]

Please make it evo and eds rock!
you rule!

yours
Arafat

p.s @ miroslav: and like that it turned out ;)

Am Di, den 03.02.2004 schrieb JP Rosevear um 22:09:
> On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:10, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 22:51, JP Rosevear wrote:
> > > Fellow GNOMErs,
> > > 
> > > In order to ensure that Evolution meets the GNOME project's standards of
> > > quality and usability, we'd like to propose that the Evolution client be
> > > included in GNOME 2.8 and not GNOME 2.6.
> > 
> > That's a pity. What changed your opinion? Are there any particular
> > issues?
> > 
> > >   The whole proposal is as
> > > follows:
> > > 
> > > Phase 1:
> > > Evolution Data Server 1.0 ships with GNOME 2.6
> > 
> > When we first thought that evolution 2.0 might not be ready in time, the
> > release-team considered this. But I think we decided that
> > 1. API should not be in the Desktop if no Desktop module uses it.
> 
> Well I believe the panel applet can use it.
> 
> > 2. API should not be in the Platform if it's not mature and stable.
> 
> We don't want it in the platform this early, we want to make sure the
> API is correct before committing to API/ABI compat.
> 
> > >  and Evolution 2.0 Ships
> > > in June.  We've taken some of the constructive criticism to heart on the
> > > issue of the usefulness (and ease of use) of the e-d-s API without
> > > Evolution and Chris Toshok produced a good API extension to obtain lists
> > > of address books, calendars, task lists and the default source for each
> > > of those.  We're also willing to write a capplet that allows the
> > > defaults to be changed if thats deemed necessary and an allowable
> > > breakage of the UI freeze.  We think this is a good idea to further encourage
> > > tie-ins like Ross's contact applet, panel calendar support and the gaim buddy
> > > stuff.
> > 
> > I don't think any distros will ship e-d-s until they ship an evolution
> > that uses it, because without evolution there isn't much for thing to
> > integrate with through e-d-s.
> 
> Point taken.
> 
> > > Phase 2:
> > > Evolution Data Server and Evolution 2.2 ships with GNOME 2.8.  Evolution
> > > 2.2 would be a bug and polish only release with few new features
> > > (essentially bounties and more ui polish).  
> > > 
> > > We are still really committed to getting Evolution proper in sync with
> > > and part of the GNOME desktop releases.
> > 
> > Let's see what definite opinions other people have, but I personally
> > think you should just try to follow the 2.6 schedule for e-d-s, but that
> > it would be meaningless to actually put e-d-s in 2.6 without evolution.
> 
> The Evolution team agrees.  The above points and Miloslav's point about
> e-d-s and Evolution 1.4 not working in harmony (which will be the
> obvious choice of distros shipping Evolution) makes it fairly obvious
> the e-d-s release isn't a good fit in GNOME 2.6, so we'll withdraw that
> part of the proposal.
> 
> We still really want to be part of GNOME 2.8 though and we're very
> committed to that goal.  We think that e-d-s and Evolution can really
> provide some cool functionality that can drive the desktop forward - the
> first round of bounties have only scratched the surface. 
> 
> We'll move forward with GNOME 2.8 in firmly in mind.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -JP