Re: 2.4 Proposed Modules - 2 weeks left



Marco Pesenti Gritti writes:
Will distros being shipping it in time for GNOME 2.4?

I dont know. Some distributions are already shipping it (Mandrake for
example).
The port is quite stable and with GRE it should be possible to install
two version of gecko in parallel.
I don't
think we can ship a GNOME 2.4 module that has a GTK+ 1.2 dependency.

Epiphany does not work with a gtk 1.2 mozilla anyway.
Accessibility:
If I understand, Bill says there are accessibility problems with epiphany
that do not exist with Mozilla. This is a potential blocker. Can we have
some more information about that please? How might it be solved eventually?
If it is explained elsewhere then please just give us a URL.

First step is to get the accessibility work exported to embedding widget
(Right now it's connected only to mozilla toplevel windows). According
to Bill Sun's Beijing Mozilla team is working on this.
Then we will have to connect the gecko ATK support into the application
widget ATK tree.
I hope it's possible to do it at gtkmozembed level [1], so that all gtk
embedders (yelp, galeon ...) will be accessible without any additional
code. (my knowledge of accessibility framework is still not great, so I
could be wrong about this). Marco [1] http://mozilla.org/unix/gtk-embedding.html

I think blocking a gnome browser because of accessibility concerns would be a real big mistake. For years users have been complaining about how gnome does not come with a default browser, now we have two fine canidates that are both fairly stable, and widely used. The accessibility work needed for gtkmozembed is much more likely to happen once there is more widespread use of it, since the motivation to fix it will be greater. Right now gnome doesn't have a web browser, so adding one that isn't 100% accessible is not a regression. Plus distros that are really concerned can still enable the deprecated mozilla as their default browser if they choose in the short term. Marco as a maintainer is great, and takes accessibility issues seriously. He's made a point of fixing many keynav issues that I've found in our bookmarks and history windows, and makes these issue high prioirity. dave



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