Re: [Markus Kuhn cl cam ac uk: A suggestion for gucharmap, KCharMap and umap]

[Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu>]

Forgive my ignorance (I'm a dum amuricun)... What are the unicode
annotation and cross reference info? How do you (personally) typically
use them? In what situations would you envision other people using them?

-Seth

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 19:58, Noah Levitt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I agree with Markus that gucharmap should have the unicode
> annotation and cross reference information. 
> 
> Does anyone have ideas on how to present the information in
> a way that is usable and not overwhelming?
> 
> Noah
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Markus Kuhn <Markus Kuhn cl cam ac uk> -----
> 
> To: Noah Levitt <nlevitt columbia edu>
> cc: ceckak alumni washington edu, pfaedit users sourceforge net
> Subject: A suggestion for gucharmap, KCharMap and umap
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:17:25 +0000
> From: Markus Kuhn <Markus Kuhn cl cam ac uk>
> 
> Noah Levitt wrote on 2003-01-15 15:08 UTC: 
> > Juliusz said I should drop you a note to tell you that ucm 
> > is obsoleted by gucharmap (http://gucharmap.sourceforge.net/).
> 
> Thanks! I'll update the FAQ on
> 
>   http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
> 
> accordingly.
> 
> Your Unicode character browsing/selection tool looks indeed very good,
> though I had so far just a brief look at the screen shots and haven't
> actually installed it yet.
> 
> In case you maintain a wish list for your program, here is one that I
> think is very important (and should also be worth considering for your
> competitors KCharMap and ):
> 
> It would be great, if your program would display for each character not
> only the Unicode name and block name, but all the annotation and cross
> references found in
> 
>   http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/NamesList.txt
>   http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/NamesList.html
> 
> These contain a lot of valueable information, such as
> 
> 0027	APOSTROPHE
> 	= APOSTROPHE-QUOTE
> 	= APL quote
> 	* neutral (vertical) glyph having mixed usage
> 	* preferred character for apostrophe is 2019
> 	* preferred characters in English for paired quotation marks are 2018 & 2019
> 	x (modifier letter prime - 02B9)
> 	x (modifier letter apostrophe - 02BC)
> 	x (modifier letter vertical line - 02C8)
> 	x (combining acute accent - 0301)
> 	x (prime - 2032)
> 
> which -- if displayed by all character selection tools -- would increase
> *significantly* the chance of people actually picking the semantically
> correct characters, and not just one that happens to look in the
> currently selected font like what they had in mind. Some of the Unicode
> names are for historic reasons a bit missleading (e.g., APOSTROPHE is
> not the character that you should use to represent the apostrophe in
> English in Unicode!) and need to be read together with annotations such
> as the above to get the full picture. There are lots of pitfalls when
> selecting characters without the annotations from NamesList.txt.
> 
> Some suggestions for the GUI of the proposed feature: When you format
> such annotations in an annotation subwindow, the glyphs of the
> alternative characters listed should also be shown next to their hex
> code, and clicking on them should move you to that character. (And such
> hypertext-like behaviour then of course also calls for backwards and
> forwards buttons like in a web browser.)
> 
> Would be really neat if you could fit that in somehow!
> 
> Markus
> 
> -- 
> Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__
> 
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