I really like this debate, pity I don't have the time to take part in it properly these days. I think GNOME would be a less exciting place with a Code of Conduct. Sometimes (like probably in the Ubuntu momentum) you need to lose some excitement in order to get some stability but... are we having this problem? Has someone felt abuse? I'm talking about real cases. Then we need to have visible channels to report abuse and have the means to act against it. We have a Foundation (legal identity), a Board, and Advisory Board, webmasters, sysadmins... I mean, we have all the means to respond to abuse when it happens. The mentioned bodies don't need a Code of Conduct to act, they have ways to discuss and agree on actions on each case. The existence of a Code of Conduct doesn't guarantee the diminishing of abuse either. Historically, their existence is due either to an overwhelming situation or a will to difficult the access to an elite. None of this applies to GNOME. The most efficient codes of conducts are those that don't need to be written. El dt 30 de 05 del 2006 a les 13:04 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va escriure: > Here's a simple start: > http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct Isn't this just common sense? I don't see the need to push a long debate to end up having a list of points based on common sense. Common sense (aka "the least common of the senses") makes more sense and it's more effective when it's not written. Try to put it in words and you will get power relations, cultural differences, generation gaps, gender issues... The concept itself of Code of Conduct shows IMO a mainstream Western liberal mentality, I'd say with a clear male component as well (Murray, nothing personal :) ). I don't see how the existence of a Code of Conduct encourages the participation of i.e. Eastern traditional women, or any other combination of "minority" groups. If we want to promote specific sectors or goals, let's promote them. A Code of Conduct is not useful for that, apart from the rhetoric. An officially assumed and signed roadmap, list of priorities or social contract puts an active and tangible compromise to an organization. We could invest our time in such active compromises instead of a passive Code of Conduct we don't really need as for today. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org
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