Re: [Evolution-hackers] spam filtering

[Mark Gordon <mtgordon ximian com>]

3. The fastest menu to reach is the one located where you already are. 
Fitts' Law.

Then again, the HIG says on popup-menus:

"Popup menus need to be as simple as possible to maximize their
efficiency. Do not place more than about ten items on a popup menu, and
do not use submenus."

http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/menus.html#menu-type-popup

I count 17 items in the popup menu (in 1.4.5) for the email to which I'm
responding, including two submenus.  I'm not sure what it would have in
2.0, though.

-Mark Gordon

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 12:20, Anna Marie Dirks wrote:
> Hi there, Radek.
> 
> Yes, I would add an item to the context menu as well. Here's why: 
> 
>      1. There are people, especially those who are accustomed to using
>         Windows systems, who take great comfort in the presence of a
>         context menu. If you ever watch Keelyn or Clara (both of whom
>         are very experienced Windows users) use Evolution, you'll find
>         that they constantly right-click on messages, because they think
>         of this as being the quickest and easiest way to understand what
>         the options related to a given message are. People have as many
>         different ways of filing their email as they do of tying their
>         shoes. :) Our job is to accomodate them (as is practical given
>         our available resources), not to pass judgment on the relative
>         value of their patterns.
>      2. The context menu gives the impression of containing a complete
>         list of the actions available for a given message. To omit this
>         command would be to sacrifice the integrity of the context menu.
>         (Because one couldn't rely on the context menu for a complete
>         list of one's options anymore.) Doubt! Despair! Dejection!
> 
> Does that make sense? 
> 
> best, 
> Anna
> 
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:02, Radek Doul�wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 22:32, Anna Marie Dirks wrote:
> > > Yes, a keyboard shortcut would be good.
> > > 
> > > We are going to need to redo the menus a bit for 2.0. They are currently
> > > badly organized, and full of cruft. When I am preparing the menu spec
> > > for 2.0, I will include a proposed keybinding for this.. I can't hope to
> > > tell you off the top of my head which letters will be available at that
> > > time, though. :)
> > 
> > do you think it's also necessary to have [No]Spam in popup menu? I think
> > when it's already available on toolbar and in menu there's no reason to
> > have it in popup as well - it easier reachable by mouse on toolbar (one
> > click)
> > 
> > cheers
> > Radek
> > 
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > Anna
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 16:16, Mark Gordon wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 12:27, Radek Doul�wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >       * new [No]Spam button on toolbar and item in menubar
> > > > >         Actions/[No]Spam. when message was identified as Spam,
> > > > >         button/item says NoSpam to revive the message from Spam folder
> > > > >         (spam flag is set to false and incoming message filters are
> > > > >         applied). For nospam messages it says spam to mark message as
> > > > >         Spam (spam flag is set to true and message is moved to Spam
> > > > >         folder).
> > > > 
> > > > It would probably be good to have this in a context (right-click) menu
> > > > as well.  A keyboard shortcut might not be a bad idea, though I'm not
> > > > completely sure what key combination I'd want to assign to it.  Anna?
> > > > 
> > > > -Mark Gordon
> > > > 
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