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X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:48:27 -0000 --_54625908-7a14-4bc0-a960-d10ff5af0c66_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .. http://vanderkruit.net/friends.php?zjgoogleid=3Do1n3 = --_54625908-7a14-4bc0-a960-d10ff5af0c66_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = --_54625908-7a14-4bc0-a960-d10ff5af0c66_-- From alvaro.touzon@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 21:42:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6D875008A for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:42:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24wbpYlZolsw for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C2975002C for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3624835wyf.27 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:42:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JpALfws1ZUaD10m1lvq7OC/68RnDXgYsz2Om9q1iQOs=; b=n5HkCjta9GSZ6Cb6NoT4gD6xOwpHMGGT+8d48wHQ5ZxyErv9sPBw6XwlxSo6WiJzbB E6rUhJYRO/9SqqZHwlxT1+c6CQF/kU1EwCde0G8wU04xBlVxTJF8yT7KiZUXumcC20Rn lAzKUDvVBj/kSESADa5kuhCaqUDkX7TIlxFYY= Received: by 10.227.57.147 with SMTP id c19mr9428271wbh.8.1321047750794; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (213.37.33.64.dyn.user.ono.com. [213.37.33.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en10sm7361077wbb.0.2011.11.11.13.42.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: alvaro To: gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1321047741.3208.1.camel@alvaro-HP-Compaq-6735s> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gnome-love] niewbie question X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:42:43 -0000 Hi all, First thanks, and my question will be simple sure, how i can create an widget image on the fly, dynamic. Thanks. From bkupev@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 12:37:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8AB75018D for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:37:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wkQr4SjrseDR for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C16A7500AE for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so7808651bkb.27 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:37:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ebvgR/oW+L+hpAe7trbnO44kLf14GtmLSyOg8kf4Nfc=; b=UdJAUzZnzNDVth4K6QYYroAz+EGl2TjUK+Lp0IEC/2Rnk+im45F/Kl7FCFvlJQJ4Uz LMUXwKfaCZS0J5kHl8/nkOtHyu94+/tdjFz/yStXpV+DkZn10XMM9MWYVVcyageHENXU +YoDFXQxBLxGNHOpcyw+9sYvkCF+ZFlbW6IxA= Received: by 10.205.126.15 with SMTP id gu15mr4316960bkc.108.1321101438296; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] ([77.28.213.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z7sm17804746bka.1.2011.11.12.04.37.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:37:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBE687B.8040800@t-home.mk> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:37:15 +0100 From: Blagoj Kupev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gnome-love] Picture on a ball canvas X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:37:31 -0000 Hello, I'm really new in graphics and i have a task to develop a device that will project a picture on a white ball, but the picture has to be symmetrical. To achieve this, the picture should be modified/distorted accordingly prior it is projected. To modification will mean that the picture is created in a way that when it falls on the white ball will look fully symmetrical. Since i'm new in technologies like GNOME that are used to create a graphical interface, i'll need your help in getting directions where/how in the GNOME framework to introduce a function that will modify the final picture prior it is sent to the projector. The elements that should be projected are simple 2D components: text, circles, triangles... Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Blagoj From ak-47@gmx.net Tue Nov 15 07:13:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2017501C6 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:13:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.201, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1HXuWQqt7AO3 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CBDE7501E9 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2011 07:12:50 -0000 Received: from 106-98-207-85.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.9]) [85.207.98.106] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 08:12:50 +0100 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/VKHNv+drVIDijf4MfF/I5bw4Xgz3V/I1ZJZyuPn vEnd374EDj+neb From: Andre Klapper To: alvaro In-Reply-To: <1321047741.3208.1.camel@alvaro-HP-Compaq-6735s> References: <1321047741.3208.1.camel@alvaro-HP-Compaq-6735s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:12:49 +0100 Message-ID: <1321341169.2373.0.camel@embrace> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 (2.32.3-1.fc14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] niewbie question X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:13:04 -0000 On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 22:42 +0100, alvaro wrote: > Hi all, > First thanks, and my question will be simple sure, > how i can create an widget image on the fly, dynamic. Please elaborate - this is too short to understand. Feel free to also mention what GNOME documentation you have looked at already. Thanks, andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper | http://www.openismus.com From j.b.w@gmx.ch Tue Nov 15 08:44:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC2275025A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:44:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nEL09lSS3w33 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4236C750110 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2011 08:44:30 -0000 Received: from 225-45.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch (EHLO [192.168.1.53]) [62.203.45.225] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 09:44:30 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11854318 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1844kh3pRs4rkOjizKxbGIMkwXzSw3qUpWJYhOu4N LQBAFedIzE1Kmd Message-ID: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:44:29 +0100 From: Jonas Wagner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20111010 Icedove/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:44:46 -0000 Hello, I'm not sure whether this is the right place for some gnome3 feedback. However, I hope that the feedback will be valuable for developers of Gnome. A few days ago, gnome3 entered debian testing and thus my machine. Here are a few first impressions. * Overall, I like it... I'm not going to switch back, even though I have to change many of my workflows, and it's gonna need some time to adapt. * My graphic card was not configured properly before the update, so the first thing I saw was gnome3's fallback mode. There was a popup informing me of this. It provided a link to a help page. However, the link led to the gnome3.org homepage, and as such was absolutely useless. * Once 3d was configured properly, I was quite positively surprised by how beautiful everything looked. The font (Cantarell) is really nice. * Why does the logout window look different from any other window? * To ease transition, I removed my ~/.gnome2 folder... apparently, this was not a good idea. In particular, now network-manager asks me every time about wifi passwords. Could it be that the default keyring is not re-created automatically? Any idea how I could fix this? * One of the first things I wanted to do was to change the desktop background. When using System Settings > Background, I can't select any .png file (the Open button is grayed out if I try)! It works when I open the png in eog, then select "Set as Desktop Background" from the context menu. * Adding applications to my favorites was painful. I go to Activities, then Applications, then select my app, then drag it to the favorites pane. When I do this, the screen changes and displays me the "Windows" part of the activities screen again! Why? So to add another app, I have to again click on Applications again, select the right category again, etc. * Files from my ~/Desktop folder are no more displayed on the desktop :-/ * What is the best way to switch between windows? The standard mapping of alt-tab no longer switches between two windows of the same application. It also changes virtual desktops sometimes. I've discovered alt-esc which works more intuitively, but the whole thing is confusing to me, and having two similar shortcuts needs a lot of thought. * Having an unlimited, dynamic number of virtual desktops is cool! * Closing the last window of a desktop opens the Activities screen. I dislike this. My workflow used to be (1) close the program I was using, (2) type ctrl-alt-left to go to the other desktop where other work was running. Now I need one more action, to explicitely exit from the activities screen. * Opening a terminal on another desktop is very counter-intuitive. I use terminals a lot, hence I added it to the favorites pane. When I switch to a new Desktop, and click on the terminal icon in my favorites, it changes back to the old desktop and selects some already open terminal instead of starting a new one. I have to explicitely drag the terminal icon to some empty space to start it :( * I like the fact that I can start applications on another desktop, by dragging the app icon to that desktop. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with some applications (Firefox and Thunderbird, for example). * Clicking on Activities > Applications shows an alphabetical list of all applications. Is this really useful? The list of categories is far away, on the other end of the screen. * The direct search is cool! Is there a way I can extend it so it finds every file, not just recently-used ones? Recently-used is also a tad misleading, because files opened in non-gnome programs (or even vim compiled with gnome support) do not get added to this list. To summarize: many things I like, congratulations! It would be great to see some pitfalls ironed out. Feel free to discuss this or ask me if anything is unclear. Hope this helps, Jonas From olav@vitters.nl Wed Nov 16 12:26:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7628750320 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u+uImcPJ9o5r for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep20.mx.upcmail.net (fep20.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.40]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C8D75030F for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge02.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.237]) by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.02.02 201-2260-120-106-20100312) with ESMTP id <20111116122609.FEBB1579.viefep20-int.chello.at@edge02.upcmail.net> for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:26:09 +0100 Received: from bkor.dhs.org ([62.195.84.29]) by edge02.upcmail.net with edge id xoS61h03b0dyCrA02oS8qp; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:26:09 +0100 X-SourceIP: 62.195.84.29 Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id CD51E5003E1; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:24:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:24:07 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-love@gnome.org Message-ID: <20111116122407.GA27950@bkor.dhs.org> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-love@gnome.org References: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=jqrf5qXv5urL2URZ3a9OklEvUdrM81ZtB3GWlHLPCVk= c=1 sm=0 a=wom5GMh1gUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=btfcvT_2AAAA:8 a=zsZBF87D17ACyPKbtzgA:9 a=6mk3sslf6out0dBFrAoA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Ccto-xql4bUA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:26:25 -0000 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:44:29AM +0100, Jonas Wagner wrote: > I'm not sure whether this is the right place for some gnome3 > feedback. However, I hope that the feedback will be valuable for > developers of Gnome. Mostly use gnome-shell-list, but any list is fine. > A few days ago, gnome3 entered debian testing and thus my machine. > Here are a few first impressions. > > * Overall, I like it... I'm not going to switch back, even though I > have to change many of my workflows, and it's gonna need some time > to adapt. Cool! > * My graphic card was not configured properly before the update, so > the first thing I saw was gnome3's fallback mode. There was a popup > informing me of this. It provided a link to a help page. However, > the link led to the gnome3.org homepage, and as such was absolutely > useless. Please file a bug against gnome-shell so we can correct the link. Also please a bug against websites so we can add a redirect. Lastly, maybe bug against your distro to set it up immediately :) > * To ease transition, I removed my ~/.gnome2 folder... apparently, > this was not a good idea. In particular, now network-manager asks me > every time about wifi passwords. Could it be that the default > keyring is not re-created automatically? Any idea how I could fix > this? Some stuff is still stored under ~/.gnome2 and some other directories. > * One of the first things I wanted to do was to change the desktop > background. When using System Settings > Background, I can't select > any .png file (the Open button is grayed out if I try)! It works > when I open the png in eog, then select "Set as Desktop Background" > from the context menu. Should not happen. Please file a bug against gnome-control-center. > * Adding applications to my favorites was painful. I go to > Activities, then Applications, then select my app, then drag it to > the favorites pane. When I do this, the screen changes and displays > me the "Windows" part of the activities screen again! Why? So to add > another app, I have to again click on Applications again, select the > right category again, etc. Please file a bug against gnome-shell or tell it on gnome-shell-list. > * Files from my ~/Desktop folder are no more displayed on the desktop :-/ > > * What is the best way to switch between windows? The standard > mapping of alt-tab no longer switches between two windows of the > same application. It also changes virtual desktops sometimes. I've > discovered alt-esc which works more intuitively, but the whole thing > is confusing to me, and having two similar shortcuts needs a lot of > thought. alt-key above tab (usually alt-~) switches between existing windows. takes some getting used to. > * Closing the last window of a desktop opens the Activities screen. > I dislike this. My workflow used to be (1) close the program I was > using, (2) type ctrl-alt-left to go to the other desktop where other > work was running. Now I need one more action, to explicitely exit > from the activities screen. Bring up on gnome-shell-list. > * Opening a terminal on another desktop is very counter-intuitive. I > use terminals a lot, hence I added it to the favorites pane. When I > switch to a new Desktop, and click on the terminal icon in my > favorites, it changes back to the old desktop and selects some > already open terminal instead of starting a new one. I have to > explicitely drag the terminal icon to some empty space to start it > :( Known side effect. Not sure what is planned. > * I like the fact that I can start applications on another desktop, > by dragging the app icon to that desktop. Unfortunately, it doesn't > seem to work with some applications (Firefox and Thunderbird, for > example). Application has to properly support startup notification. File bugs with the applications. Their startup notification support is broken I think. > * Clicking on Activities > Applications shows an alphabetical list > of all applications. Is this really useful? The list of categories > is far away, on the other end of the screen. Very well known :P A redesign is planned, it'll totally change it, but only exists in mockups and might change. > * The direct search is cool! Is there a way I can extend it so it > finds every file, not just recently-used ones? Recently-used is also > a tad misleading, because files opened in non-gnome programs (or > even vim compiled with gnome support) do not get added to this list. No idea. Ask on gnome-shell-list. > To summarize: many things I like, congratulations! It would be great > to see some pitfalls ironed out. Feel free to discuss this or ask me > if anything is unclear. Thanks for feedback! -- Regards, Olav From shaunm@gnome.org Wed Nov 16 22:27:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534DC750200 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.821 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jb3J57HTuQKO for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A357501E6 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A51420AF9 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:27:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=Jl3gXW1ZkoWNO/V/M6FqSq u1VEs=; b=JIIbH0Wyji3jF3GGy72aT3J//vnE5HC/MC+X9sUiUPNfzK/+f56/xd C/FGpBI3NxYYcqzALCXFXZzOM+BeFkt79WoFLi2f9jF5m86plRnARk4dpQgorM2G 3FUjeSjaxZuw3PHqNvLkJnEeybo3JGv/o6vK4aAYREf6l6VBUW+XM= X-Sasl-enc: g8oBWJRoXOFzjNxIkMEtK3RZJOIqaBnJ26M1bqonZBWX 1321482421 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (unknown [74.83.248.165]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8FB74824B1 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Shaun McCance To: gnome-love@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> References: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: <1321482420.8177.194.camel@recto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 (2.32.1-1.fc14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:27:13 -0000 On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:44 +0100, Jonas Wagner wrote: > * Opening a terminal on another desktop is very counter-intuitive. I use > terminals a lot, hence I added it to the favorites pane. When I switch > to a new Desktop, and click on the terminal icon in my favorites, it > changes back to the old desktop and selects some already open terminal > instead of starting a new one. I have to explicitely drag the terminal > icon to some empty space to start it :( You can Ctrl+click the icon to open a new window in the current workspace, or middle-click to open a new window in a new workspace. -- Shaun From rbpark@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 00:53:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E8C750336; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:53:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k+sHfXL4hPRk; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F00975032A; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so2339183iak.27 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FAqwKz+ZXBXeWxZULOU0v+s+lAXnWTbCERq8mC1PAes=; b=DoH0o7vWGNEM4nusd7mrycmJFolBrd/nI8GFKdNMVLPZnYIyezgBISi344RqbJrFLf YL9ioOERSLZNX6MI+rc7zI/Q65F8vseVPFpRY5e5uUBiGnJPegYHCV95cV6V6PUW/VT/ R7iFglSY6MgHCA/HTZlDoun+1LcP6qr9gOL6c= Received: by 10.231.20.201 with SMTP id g9mr8270510ibb.57.1321491183256; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:53:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rbpark@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.51.234 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:52:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1321482420.8177.194.camel@recto> References: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> <1321482420.8177.194.camel@recto> From: Robert Park Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:52:22 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: D4yLogr9E_2Ey7__GjZYCfOooO8 Message-ID: To: Shaun McCance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:53:16 -0000 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > You can Ctrl+click the icon to open a new window in the current > workspace, or middle-click to open a new window in a new workspace. BRILLIANT! This should be advertised far and wide... significantly decreases the effort required to open apps on new workspaces... and it is deliciously consistent with middle clicking links into new tabs in firefox. Thanks for this tip! From tylerhardin1@live.com Thu Nov 17 05:20:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC399750359 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.902 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OWWON7e6f8Qi for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.216]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77B57501F5 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT123-W46 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:20:27 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d0ac2c26-7857-496a-ae7d-259644f50c14_" X-Originating-IP: [122.3.142.126] From: To: , , , , , , Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:20:26 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2011 05:20:27.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[9DA891E0:01CCA4E8] Subject: Re: [gnome-love] . X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:39 -0000 --_d0ac2c26-7857-496a-ae7d-259644f50c14_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello! http://zindy.fr/store.php?yqCID=3D9fjhx = --_d0ac2c26-7857-496a-ae7d-259644f50c14_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = --_d0ac2c26-7857-496a-ae7d-259644f50c14_-- From ebassi@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 08:19:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB447501CC; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:19:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UA6PENBLyKj7; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC575009E; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so1127174ywe.27 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lFxu39a5HYj/XmNeMxaneOCBgP9T+2/qfGb9AkDF/H8=; b=GbHmRtycknjPrt46Xm+uhF9Ena0cAPlNbNbTGZ2CYy7VSp4XhzjzxtiWYVIiXbzYk8 LXDd4Brit5sRtHE8CYJryRHxVKQcDZ+ttqGqasq7Fp+h1SkHyNduDIDDB6b3OXPMtK5a AYu4q0eje0UAnlwhoDIok+bOoqIimnhv39bm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.157.70 with SMTP id c6mr17263117icx.51.1321517964020; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.217.129 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> <1321482420.8177.194.camel@recto> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:19:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Emmanuele Bassi To: Robert Park Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Shaun McCance , gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:19:41 -0000 hi; On 17 November 2011 00:52, Robert Park wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: >> You can Ctrl+click the icon to open a new window in the current >> workspace, or middle-click to open a new window in a new workspace. > > BRILLIANT! This should be advertised far and wide... it's in the desktop help, along with other tips. there's also the "cheat sheet" page on the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ From ak-47@gmx.net Thu Nov 17 11:17:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB15C75009E for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:17:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.201, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bldmJ96Y2rdU for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE0907500E9 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2011 11:17:25 -0000 Received: from 20-29-80-78.tmcz.cz (EHLO [192.168.1.27]) [78.80.29.20] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 12:17:25 +0100 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vGSQoqJUvUYqpsoCmIimwxFhAif00pvIfACuHxB nlPAbhe5BsYGAf From: Andre Klapper To: Andika Triwidada In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:17:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1321528628.2345.16.camel@embrace> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 (2.32.3-1.fc14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: gnome-love , usability@gnome.org, gnome-bugsquad , GNOME Documentation , GNOME i18n , desktop-devel-list Subject: Re: [gnome-love] [Usability] Google Code-In 2011 time in hours X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:17:41 -0000 Hi Andika, [For future responses, please strip the long CC list.] On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 08:56 +0700, Andika Triwidada wrote: > After you have converted all estimated time from days to hours, it > seems that every task, > even the simplest one, need much more time than initially. For > instance, when I wrote > a 2-days task of translating 'dictionary manual' into Indonesian, I > was thinking of > max two 8-hour days, not two 32-hour ones. While I increased a few deadlines, you picked a bad example: Your proposed timeframe for Dictionary Manual was "3-4 days", see https://live.gnome.org/action/info/GoogleCodeIn/Tasks?action=diff&rev2=193&rev1=192#line-478 I turned your "4 days" into "100 hours". I think that's quite appropriate (4 hours more). > Should each of us revise those time estimations? No. In general: It doesn't hurt anybody if a student hands in the work earlier, plus having more time for reviews/iterations. Plus keep in mind the time it takes to set up infrastructure (e.g. learning git, understand required applications etc, Learning curve, time zones, etc). andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper | http://www.openismus.com From kartiksinghal@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 12:29:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188C67500C6; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wIkcu8DTAyAN; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208877500A4; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so3448541iak.27 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=G2PLUGWMhuC8mtQhEHPh4jkPC2WHy3aHudIOfGrvbxk=; b=YA+F20HTyPnW/x4y5pEMk94XUAxVs9ZP3XG2kbm7M5iuhgCIPfnLF+j6aoXjslG+1m nEWXPfBY6BUpbTWPu5gsdStd8uahCqyXgKpQWxrZPvx7WoxW7PZ/2/5YT+YmcLrgDmml GNQrpsNENfeu8gqwOZqRWOzlecajv+4KacCj0= Received: by 10.231.1.9 with SMTP id 9mr9567424ibd.58.1321532948079; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:29:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.198 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:28:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EC2266D.9070406@gmx.ch> <1321482420.8177.194.camel@recto> From: Kartik Singhal Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:58:47 +0530 Message-ID: To: Emmanuele Bassi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740c20ede53404b1ed5d52 Cc: Shaun McCance , gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Gnome3 Feedback X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:20 -0000 --001517740c20ede53404b1ed5d52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > there's also the > "cheat sheet" page on the wiki: > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet > +1 for cheatsheet, really handy. -- Kartik http://k4rtik.wordpress.com/ --001517740c20ede53404b1ed5d52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--001517740c20ede53404b1ed5d52-- From liberforce@freeside.fr Fri Nov 18 08:57:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC68E75007E for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:57:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8zk-tGxTT2nd for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9F37500F6 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 241167000133 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:57:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (118.205.86.79.rev.sfr.net [79.86.205.118]) by msfrf2121.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0069C7000128 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:57:21 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20111118085722179.0069C7000128@msfrf2121.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4EC61DF1.7050807@freeside.fr> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:57:21 +0100 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Mageia/3.1.16-1.mga1 (1) Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-love@gnome.org References: <4EBE687B.8040800@t-home.mk> In-Reply-To: <4EBE687B.8040800@t-home.mk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Picture on a ball canvas X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:57:36 -0000 Hi, Le 12/11/2011 13:37, Blagoj Kupev a écrit : > I'm really new in graphics and i have a task to develop a device that > will project a picture on a white ball, but the picture has to be > symmetrical. To achieve this, the picture should be modified/distorted > accordingly prior it is projected. To modification will mean that the > picture is created in a way that when it falls on the white ball will > look fully symmetrical. > > Since i'm new in technologies like GNOME that are used to create a > graphical interface, i'll need your help in getting directions where/how > in the GNOME framework to introduce a function that will modify the > final picture prior it is sent to the projector. > > The elements that should be projected are simple 2D components: text, > circles, triangles... This is a bit late, but what you need to start developing is available at http://developer.gnome.org . And what you need to use to draw stuff is cairo: http://cairographics.org/ http://cairographics.org/manual http://zetcode.com/tutorials/cairographicstutorial/ Drawing text and circles is quite easy. To distort your image, will need to play with the cairo_matrix_t type and set a transformation matrix. This helps in automatically the coordinates system, so you can draw with the best coordinates system for you, and the result is automatically converted to the coordinated system you need (a distorted one for you). Hope this helps, Cheers, -- Luis Menina From frank@solensky.org Fri Nov 18 23:41:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1EB7500A3 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:41:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.823 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.823 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xYuEHC7SYh4J for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:41:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 804 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:41:24 UTC Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D81F75002B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2011 18:27:40 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA) with ESMTP id BKT85232; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:27:40 -0500 X-Auth-ID: fenwayfrank Received: from westford-nat.juniper.net (HELO [172.28.131.71]) ([66.129.232.2]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2011 18:27:38 -0500 From: Frank Solensky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:27:38 -0500 Message-Id: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> To: gnome-love@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A02020A.4EC6E9EC.0048,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:41:27 -0000 Hi -- I've been blocked on this for a while now, partly by my stubborn = insistence that someone must have been running into this, posted a query = and received an answer on how to fix this. If that's happened, I = haven't found it. So=85 I've got Fedora 15 x86_64 running on my machine, have been using = jhbuild to get pretty much everything built, then following the steps = listed at = http://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/unstable/jhbuild-and-gnome.html.en to = set up gnome to run in a nested window. Xephyr runs fine but when I try = to start up gnome it fails miserably. Rather than piping stderr to = /dev/null I'm just letting it spew out to the console. The following = error messages are listed: --- gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients = aware of DISPLAY=3D:2 environment variable: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients = aware of GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=3Dthis-is-deprecated environment variable: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote = application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the = reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients = aware of SESSION_MANAGER=3Dlocal/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/17574,unix/unix:\ /tmp/.ICE-unix/17574 environment variable: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. --- Inside the Xepyr window, after a long delay, the following error = appears: --- Could not connect to session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible = causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [ _L_og Out ] --- I'm guessing that "the message bus security policy blocked the = reply" is the critical link and that there's something specific to = Fedora distributions that I have to jiggle to get this whole thing = working. What, pray tell, is it? Extra points to an existing link that answers this question in = the hope that it will get the corresponding page's search rank to be = raised a couple of points and spare someone else the same agita in the = future. TIA. From arief.utama@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 05:04:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E83750077 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:04:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.623 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DaHn-qn7NJgP for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D71675002B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyd10 with SMTP id 10so7036206eyd.27 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:04:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=STJiPrtG1ssqihx8PE8TqJIZ65PufB7wQozD+qoOwL8=; b=bMN9WFsY3eExuHofgfs97cpzdBYnXZkABAObkvj3PTnwyFzVZVwF6C5o9vG8AJziO6 GAX3pxWXfIbOo0bxyrKNL1Vl5Lq0NP4uIuU83O3DFw0TP0R14O6oL2zHL/foDB2KilOA yJsYWfrlcIc1DG4AiZkHyOuRDwhFyS91RACQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.9.224 with SMTP id 72mr470446eet.152.1321679065464; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.105.143 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:04:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> References: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:04:25 +0700 Message-ID: From: Arief M Utama To: Frank Solensky , gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:04:41 -0000 That document is outdated. IIRC, you can run jhbuild gnome-session or jhbuild gnome-shell after you finished building. Maybe better to start it from a single xterm window. I gave up on jhbuild few while back, I would say it's not very beginner friendly or atleast has a high barrier (probably a good up to date documentation would make it better). I'm using debian packages now, and start postponing my dream to contribute to gnome for when I have more time and stubbornness :) Loved Gnome-3 though, kudos to everyone involves. All the best. -arief On 11/19/11, Frank Solensky wrote: > Hi -- > I've been blocked on this for a while now, partly by my stubborn insiste= nce > that someone must have been running into this, posted a query and receive= d > an answer on how to fix this. If that's happened, I haven't found it. > So=85 > I've got Fedora 15 x86_64 running on my machine, have been using jhbuild= to > get pretty much everything built, then following the steps listed at > http://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/unstable/jhbuild-and-gnome.html.en to = set > up gnome to run in a nested window. Xephyr runs fine but when I try to > start up gnome it fails miserably. Rather than piping stderr to /dev/nul= l > I'm just letting it spew out to the console. The following error message= s > are listed: > > --- > gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients aware > of DISPLAY=3D:2 environment variable: Did not receive a reply. > Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, > the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout > expired, or the network connection was broken. > gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients aware > of GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=3Dthis-is-deprecated environment variable: > Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote applicatio= n > did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply= , > the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. > gnome-session[17574]: WARNING: Could not make bus activated clients aware > of SESSION_MANAGER=3Dlocal/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/17574,unix/unix:\ > /tmp/.ICE-unix/17574 environment variable: Did not receive a reply. > Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, > the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout > expired, or the network connection was broken. > --- > > Inside the Xepyr window, after a long delay, the following error appears= : > --- > Could not connect to session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible cause= s > include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus > security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the > network connection was broken. > [ _L_og Out ] > --- > > I'm guessing that "the message bus security policy blocked the reply" is > the critical link and that there's something specific to Fedora > distributions that I have to jiggle to get this whole thing working. Wha= t, > pray tell, is it? > Extra points to an existing link that answers this question in the hope > that it will get the corresponding page's search rank to be raised a coup= le > of points and spare someone else the same agita in the future. TIA. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-love mailing list > gnome-love@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-love > From arief.utama@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 09:12:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7CD7500A9 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.623 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8-Td50KnBe2B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04B77500A5 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so5003874yen.27 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:12:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=K1SD6YC0rMI1/sakvBW2bJVF1roxJtd0Cl2uxYlc5fk=; b=jYPgb661OyHqk89gUbkWCNtq4thjiXoxYenHQ2j8gm6HXggMlu00t1uYeCPUB0p9PT kQhBwvMrO5b5f8ZQkeQTEfNzdrGJMP8oTYXtluYvmjVS/HBdSV/YkNDLQaJfC8XlTJ8g dYHIha0bQICvYKxFal0z0vUTLefHciXwpy8xc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.217.105 with SMTP id ox9mr1484548obc.45.1321693923542; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.216.101 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:12:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> References: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:12:03 +0700 Message-ID: From: Arief M Utama To: Craig Keogh , Frank Solensky , gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:12:16 -0000 Sorry top posting, blackberry + gmail sux for mail replies :( You said that document is up to date, but I can't find section that explains what you've just explain without digging thru mails or blogs. All the best. -arief On 11/19/11, Craig Keogh wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 12:04 +0700, Arief M Utama wrote: >> That document is outdated. > > Incorrect. The JHBuild manual is up-to-date. The JHBuild manual, JHBuild > wiki and JHBuild READMEs are up-to-date and consistent. > > Xephyr does have problems with 3D - and 3D is used heavily by GNOME 3.x. > Use the display manager method, or use a nested server that supports 3D. > Something like Xephyr-with-gl-acceleration [1], but I've not tried it. > > On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 18:27 -0500, Frank Solensky wrote: >> Hi -- >> I've been blocked on this for a while now, partly by my >> stubborn insistence that someone must have been running into this, >> posted a query and received an answer on how to fix this. If that's >> happened, I haven't found it. > > Hi Frank, > > Try the display manager method, as Xephyr has problems with 3D. Also your > error messages suggests a problem with dbus. Did you follow the dbus > section from the manual, that has the following commands: > $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus > $ ln -s /var/run/dbus /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus > $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id > $ ln -s /var/lib/dbus/machine-id /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id > > I'm running Fedora 15 and gnome 3.4 module set. The JHBuild GNOME desktop > loads. > > [1] > http://gitorious.org/xephyr-with-gl-acceleration/xephyr-with-gl-acceleration > > -- > Craig Keogh > > > From cskeogh@adam.com.au Sat Nov 19 09:47:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1731C7500A9 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:47:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.824 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.824 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3UqazaoCHhSJ for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:47:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 3090 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:47:55 UTC Received: from smtp2.adam.net.au (smtp2.adam.net.au [202.136.110.251]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0237500A5 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 182-239-144-45.ip.adam.com.au ([182.239.144.45] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp2.adam.net.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RRhWO-0006hO-So; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:17:41 +1030 From: Craig Keogh To: Arief M Utama Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:17:40 +1030 In-Reply-To: References: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1321696060.3759.12.camel@tatooine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:47:58 -0000 On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 16:12 +0700, Arief M Utama wrote: > You said that document is up to date, but I can't find section that > explains what you've just explain without digging thru mails or blogs. The manual doesn't tell users Xephyr doesn't work with 3D. I've just removed the Xephyr part [1]. The website will be updated next JHBuild release. [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/commit/?id=eae7dcaa85d9dd59cc5e5e56c0834c47c41c0d01 -- Craig Keogh From cskeogh@adam.com.au Sat Nov 19 10:09:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BDA750230 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:09:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.824 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.824 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PXYWjukytsLl for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.adam.net.au (smtp2.adam.net.au [202.136.110.251]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F311F75017A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 182-239-144-45.ip.adam.com.au ([182.239.144.45] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp2.adam.net.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RRgiX-0004wV-MT; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:26:09 +1030 From: Craig Keogh To: Arief M Utama Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:26:09 +1030 In-Reply-To: References: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:09:03 -0000 On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 12:04 +0700, Arief M Utama wrote: > That document is outdated. Incorrect. The JHBuild manual is up-to-date. The JHBuild manual, JHBuild wiki and JHBuild READMEs are up-to-date and consistent. Xephyr does have problems with 3D - and 3D is used heavily by GNOME 3.x. Use the display manager method, or use a nested server that supports 3D. Something like Xephyr-with-gl-acceleration [1], but I've not tried it. On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 18:27 -0500, Frank Solensky wrote: > Hi -- > I've been blocked on this for a while now, partly by my > stubborn insistence that someone must have been running into this, > posted a query and received an answer on how to fix this. If that's > happened, I haven't found it. Hi Frank, Try the display manager method, as Xephyr has problems with 3D. Also your error messages suggests a problem with dbus. Did you follow the dbus section from the manual, that has the following commands: $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus $ ln -s /var/run/dbus /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id $ ln -s /var/lib/dbus/machine-id /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id I'm running Fedora 15 and gnome 3.4 module set. The JHBuild GNOME desktop loads. [1] http://gitorious.org/xephyr-with-gl-acceleration/xephyr-with-gl-acceleration -- Craig Keogh From frank@solensky.org Sat Nov 19 14:38:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F6B7500A6 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:38:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.823 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.823 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rXcuReZZn7gy for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4B8750065 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2011 09:37:39 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA) with ESMTP id BER09232; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:37:38 -0500 X-Auth-ID: fenwayfrank Received: from 209-6-88-91.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [10.0.1.5]) ([209.6.88.91]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2011 09:37:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Frank Solensky In-Reply-To: <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:37:13 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <05D894ED-0953-466F-959A-96227EDD94AB@solensky.org> References: <06DFAF85-0F89-4C31-A27B-68F1DD7C9728@solensky.org> <1321692970.3759.7.camel@tatooine> To: Craig Keogh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A02020A.4EC7BF32.00D1,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] jhbuild on Fedora X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:38:52 -0000 On Nov 19, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Craig Keogh wrote: > Try the display manager method, as Xephyr has problems with 3D. I've tried that as well but didn't fare any better: the display = background changes for about 10 or 15 seconds, then goes dark to = display: Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. [Logout] I had assumed that it was related to the same errors I had seen from the = Xephyr approach. Messages in the .xsession-errors file seems to bear = that out: --- gnome-session[23749]: EggSMClient-WARNING: Invalid Version string = '7.0.15050.707095' in /usr/share/gnome/autostart/prlcc.desktop gnome-session[23749]: EggSMClient-WARNING: Invalid Version string = '7.0.15050.707095' in /usr/share/gnome/autostart/prl_wmouse_d.desktop GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0 GPG_AGENT_INFO=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/gpg:0:1 GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0 GPG_AGENT_INFO=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/gpg:0:1 SSH_AUTH_SOCK=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/ssh GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0 GPG_AGENT_INFO=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/gpg:0:1 SSH_AUTH_SOCK=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/ssh GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0 GPG_AGENT_INFO=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/gpg:0:1 SSH_AUTH_SOCK=3D/tmp/keyring-X7SRv0/ssh color-plugin-WARNING **: failed to get edid: unable to get EDID for = output Window manager warning: Configuration server couldn't be contacted: = D-BUS error: Method "GetDefaultDatabase" with signature "" on interface = "org.gnome.GConf.Server" doesn't exist (above Window manager warning repeated 32 times) Window manager warning: 0 stored in GConf key = /apps/metacity/general/num_workspaces is out of range 1 to 36 (two more Window manager D-BUS error warnings) Window manager warning: 0 stored in GConf key = /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_size is out of range 1 to 128 (five more D-BUS error messages, some as Window manager warnings, some = as GConf errors) Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "(null)": Failed to find a = valid file for theme (null) Initializing tracker-store... Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config = file:'/home/gnomedev/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config = file:'/home/gnomedev/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' Starting log: File:'/home/gnomedev/.local/share/tracker/tracker-store.log' Initializing tracker-miner-fs... Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config = file:'/home/gnomedev/.config/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.cfg' Starting log: File:'/home/gnomedev/.local/share/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.log' (Three more GConf D-BUS errors) Failed to play sound: File or data not found (Twenty-eight GConf D-BUS errors) process 23803: arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were = incorrect, assertion "path !=3D NULL" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1198. This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace JS ERROR: !!! Exception was: Error: Error invoking GConf.add_dir: = Configuratio n server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error: Method "GetDefaultDatabase" = with signat ure "" on interface "org.gnome.GConf.Server" doesn't exist JS ERROR: !!! lineNumber =3D '0' JS ERROR: !!! fileName =3D '"gjs_throw"' JS ERROR: !!! stack =3D '"("Error invoking GConf.add_dir: = Configuration server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error: Method \"GetDefaultDatabase\" with = signature \" \" on interface \"org.gnome.GConf.Server\" doesn't exist\n")@gjs_throw:0 ()@/opt/gnome/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/status/accessibility.js:54 = ATIndicator()@/opt/gnome/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/status/accessibility.js:4= 4 ()@/opt/gnome/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/panel.js:1054 start()@/opt/gnome/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/main.js:225 @
:1 "' JS ERROR: !!! message =3D '"Error invoking GConf.add_dir: = Configuration server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error: Method "GetDefaultDatabase" with = signature "" o n interface "org.gnome.GConf.Server" doesn't exist "' Window manager warning: Log level 32: Execution of main.js threw = exception: Error: Error invoking GConf.add_dir: .. GetDefaultDatabase .. gnome-shell-calendar-server[23845]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting (Thirty-three Window Manager warning D-BUS errors) (More error messages which I assume are indirectly related to D-BUS = errors) --- > Also your > error messages suggests a problem with dbus. Did you follow the dbus > section from the manual, that has the following commands: > $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus > $ ln -s /var/run/dbus /opt/gnome/var/run/dbus > $ rm -rf /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id > $ ln -s /var/lib/dbus/machine-id /opt/gnome/var/lib/dbus/machine-id Yes, they're all there. That's where I got to wondering if there was = something specific about Fedora where I'd have to disable something that = defaults to enabled, that sort of thing. From sharan.monikantan@gmail.com Wed Nov 23 20:25:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485DD750116 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:25:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ux4D7BRCB+kA for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2CB7500FB for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faap15 with SMTP id p15so3843895faa.27 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:25:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3twQ/vQCwgFypWbTSTYoAOgDqYvh7I20tCyRLQcnFAU=; b=xKBclT4wokSpOSnlQH1+PTwb4/lLvXWfuwEMCeAvNcv/8L0rEfe1CtfyhXRmy1dMiR JAa09qXp/OcJcibtOwd/xusf5lskvjLmK2yzhklNZBo9dqGUVW3bLRtjG4gTW+kVa9XZ czqIqtvoa9O7PQ6nocDsVcVSm6CeMRLd5HHbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.77 with SMTP id o13mr27011300bko.12.1322079932836; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.34.67 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:25:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:55:32 +0530 Message-ID: From: "M.Sharan Kumar" To: gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517479032c2eb0204b26cb8f9 Subject: [gnome-love] new to gnome X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:25:45 -0000 --001517479032c2eb0204b26cb8f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi I'm glad that i am a part of the gnome. I am doing my second year B.E. computer science engineering. I am very eager to contribute to the gnome projects. Can someone guide me to take my first step? -- Warm regards, M.Sharan Kumar --001517479032c2eb0204b26cb8f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi

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--001517479032c2eb0204b26cb8f9-- From anand.arumug@gmail.com Thu Nov 24 04:22:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8DA7501DC for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:22:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qt0zsyAxnmHU for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661567501BD for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so947618ywp.27 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:22:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=514GFi/Zu2phwHDBEwyN+3PYyyaux6u5oMmPJfUqTKQ=; b=HbQWXln34OtCY5fDMn1ctbX0ISJF8ovcPQOOzpQt00kO10OYxbZz7fm9CSV5JwFcK4 ofr3Ogxoh9PDp0FSNZqC4jx7QfbX/dP9mMC1izo3Mo2lfHFIDnfZjuXZWdEayaMhs1d2 KYqDf3uGqVSTFy05R5n8yP2IguIoWRGiQospA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.45.6 with SMTP id i6mr9029788obm.3.1322108530752; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.39.8 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:22:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:22:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Anand Arumugam To: "M.Sharan Kumar" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] new to gnome X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:22:22 -0000 In case if you haven't looked here, this is where you start: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove good luck... On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, M.Sharan Kumar wrote: > hi > I'm glad that i am a part of the gnome. I am doing my second year B.E. > computer science engineering. I am very eager to contribute to the gnome > projects. Can someone guide me to take my first step? > > -- > Warm regards, > M.Sharan Kumar > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-love mailing list > gnome-love@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-love > > From liberforce@freeside.fr Thu Nov 24 23:27:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91947501A8 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:27:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.851 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.851 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=1.049, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gQt0g1Vec7js for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp24.services.sfr.fr (smtp24.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.81]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E0C7500C4 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2418.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0EEA87000129 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:27:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (173.1.72.86.rev.sfr.net [86.72.1.173]) by msfrf2418.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E6A417000100 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:27:39 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20111124232739944.E6A417000100@msfrf2418.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ECE0C1B.9080305@freeside.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:19:23 +0100 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Mageia/3.1.16-1.mga1 (1) Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-love@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT Subject: Re: [gnome-love] new to gnome X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:27:56 -0000 Hi and welcome, Le 23/11/2011 21:25, M.Sharan Kumar a écrit : > I'm glad that i am a part of the gnome. I am doing my second year B.E. > computer science engineering. I am very eager to contribute to the gnome > projects. Can someone guide me to take my first step? Give a look to the GNOME wiki at http://live.gnome.org, especially http://live.gnome.org/JoinGnome If what you want is contribute some code, then you can browse the developer manuals at http://developer.gnome.org Cheers, -- Luis Menina From njasmine0@gmail.com Sun Nov 27 13:11:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29F87500E0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:11:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DEJCa3ZkYO3R for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F268A7500C9 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so11905620iak.27 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:11:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=an8mkOCp/+bTEDzauilr3ZME5vKzepwRhbD9D2VpgCY=; b=GaZ5rLjDOm69LRt5nc/wkVnz99kxWm0tXYCC0sz1zz4gVKjwmJ75Wk43m7qDhdbyai LU13n1+aBBGSey42OSzXo+6mmpwzYxrfboqk+dNS3ARGRej+R4RTx8QT/dVyf16510tP 2y4tUZP4g9aBL6KojJrHPySrsKc12Yi2YMTWE= Received: by 10.50.40.198 with SMTP id z6mr26521579igk.39.1322399481410; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.224.208 (bda-74-82-87-67.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.87.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm31371071ibe.0.2011.11.27.05.11.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:11:20 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 2145616667 Message-ID: <2145616667-1322399479-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-215117160-@b4.c31.bise6.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: gnome-love@gnome.org From: njasmine0@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:11:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [gnome-love] Empathy X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: njasmine0@gmail.com List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:11:33 -0000 Hi, im new to gnome mailing list and i was wondering where to go from here. Im want to work on the empathy project because i love using it and would like to see it continue to get better. I have college experience in c programming and i would like to know where can i start in helping develop this application? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From korbe@romandie.com Sun Nov 27 13:34:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4983E7500E0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:34:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKLTZVfz882s for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:34:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 507 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:34:20 UTC Received: from smtp3romandie.alinto.net (smtp3romandie.alinto.net [83.145.109.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0297500AE for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alinto.net Received: from [192.168.10.221] (200-244.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch [188.62.244.200]) (Authenticated sender: korbe@romandie.com) by smtp3romandie.alinto.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6963A930328 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:25:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1322400335.3274.7.camel@Aragorn.lan> From: Gendre Sebastien To: gnome-love@gnome.org Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:25:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <2145616667-1322399479-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-215117160-@b4.c31.bise6.blackberry> References: <2145616667-1322399479-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-215117160-@b4.c31.bise6.blackberry> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-q181Q+CqeGp/SyXHgToM" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Empathy X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:34:23 -0000 --=-q181Q+CqeGp/SyXHgToM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. If you want help Empathy project, you can see at: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/#Developers Look at section roadmap if you want to help directly in actually works, and send patch. You can also check urgents bugs in bugzilla and send patch at: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=3Dempathy And if you have questions, you can send messages at: - IRC room: #empathy on Gimpnet (irc.gimp.org). irc://irc.gimp.org/empathy - Mailing list: telepathy[AT]lists.freedesktop.org . - Maintainers: XavierClaessens=C2=B9 and GuillaumeDesmottes=C2=B2 Good Sunday. _o/=20 =C2=B9 http://live.gnome.org/XavierClaessens =C2=B2 http://live.gnome.org/GuillaumeDesmottes Le dimanche 27 novembre 2011 =C3=A0 13:11 +0000, njasmine0@gmail.com a =C3=A9crit : > Hi, im new to gnome mailing list and i was wondering where to go from her= e. Im want to work on the empathy project because i love using it and woul= d like to see it continue to get better. I have college experience in c pr= ogramming and i would like to know where can i start in helping develop thi= s application? > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > gnome-love mailing list > gnome-love@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-love --=20 Gendre Sebastien --=-q181Q+CqeGp/SyXHgToM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iF4EABEIAAYFAk7SOlAACgkQQ5qfh6dt2+vu8gD8CckJeBLJWrZdzbmJyQIWLiJD zcm47D0TSA3iAOl3sb0A/1GcAq9OiS1/uKQpYdbclnUzhh/obS3pJikKtRLTJ9yH =5Hux -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-q181Q+CqeGp/SyXHgToM-- From simon.werbeck@googlemail.com Sun Nov 27 16:21:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26DE7500D4 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:21:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.623 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aWKZGCBBGbUQ for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E1975000A for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so10564352bkb.27 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:21:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WCanAWj6LqQslpBtMrXOh9M2+Tfwr1EQaN/RwM1mRYw=; b=UEEljL41qe+uyQtuqwMJF0pJAQPySKTCIyIMOcMneavr5atdmgkw7dWvZL8yLunlWF QMJWKXErwMb6qSBAzSSnmkfZk6K1/VOqLpTXeJuk7AZsf5sq0o6GwQp7qUa31ZAvjmeV SscUI53aaVqZP2ypQjQouEe0SVSTQ7vQM8cvQ= Received: by 10.205.121.1 with SMTP id ga1mr39334682bkc.60.1322410883802; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (pD9E9523F.dip.t-dialin.net. [217.233.82.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e28sm2122849fad.0.2011.11.27.08.21.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:21:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ED26380.8090907@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:21:20 +0100 From: Simon Werbeck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-love@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gnome-love] /usr/bin/ld: queryimmodules.o: undefined reference to symbol 'g_module_close' X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:21:37 -0000 I'm using jhbuild on ubuntu 11.10 for the totem player. When compiling gtk+2 the build dies with: /usr/bin/ld: queryimmodules.o: undefined reference to symbol 'g_module_close' /usr/bin/ld: note: 'g_module_close' is defined in DSO /opt/gnome/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line /opt/gnome/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status From liberforce@freeside.fr Sun Nov 27 22:21:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DB5750195 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:21:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RoTpxK6AW6x2 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 406 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at menubar.gnome.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:21:48 UTC Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.22]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F55C7500B9 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC33370000F5; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:14:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (173.1.72.86.rev.sfr.net [86.72.1.173]) by msfrf2301.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89B6870000F4; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:14:46 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20111127221446564.89B6870000F4@msfrf2301.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4ED2B656.6070906@freeside.fr> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:14:46 +0100 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Mageia/3.1.16-1.mga1 (1) Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Blagoj Kupev References: <4EBE687B.8040800@t-home.mk> <4EC61DF1.7050807@freeside.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Picture on a ball canvas X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:21:51 -0000 Hi Blagoj, Le 27/11/2011 09:44, Blagoj Kupev a écrit : > Thanks for your reply, it was not late. After your mail i've been trying > to use cairo and i must say it is amazing. :) Happy that was useful :-) > I've been looking into usage of matrix functionality, but i'm still > uncertain how to achieve what i'm looking for. As i've understood the > "matrix functionality", it is applied between user and device "space" > and it is one matrix for all pixels. I beleive that i need to apply > several matrices for the whole picture to get different "distortions" on > different parts of the picture. Well, AFAIR, using several matrixes can always be reduced to one single matrix. You should give a look to barrel distortion and pincushion distortion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_Distortion Some specialized free software already do that kind of distortion correction. This is the case for the panorama tools: http://wiki.panotools.org/Lens_correction_model You may also find some GIMP plugins for that, and find out how which matrix they're using, or see how it's done in hugin (frome the panora tools): http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/creating-lens-distorsion-models-with-hugin-lens-calibrator > I think that function cairo_user_to_device will do the work to define > different matrices for each pixel, but i do not know how to use it. To > me it seems that it is only calculating the position of the pixel based > on content of CTM. But then i do not see for which purpose i can use > this function? Well, in general, you don't even care! You just need to define the right matrix transformation, draw normaly your image, and the final result will be drawn according to your matrix: your distorded image. > BTW, do you know how can i put different matrices for different parts of > the picture? I'm not even sure that's what you need. I'm pretty sure you can do it all with one single matrix, with some variable values in it. The Wikipedia also gives a link to this page which has all the thery behind it: http://www.ipol.im/pub/algo/ags_algebraic_lens_distortion_estimation/ Good luck, -- Luis From cskeogh@adam.com.au Mon Nov 28 11:51:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91327500CE for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:51:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.824 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.824 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_JH=0.077] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G2LMbaVhxLoW for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.adam.net.au (smtp2.adam.net.au [202.136.110.251]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7685F7500B9 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 182-239-144-45.ip.adam.com.au ([182.239.144.45] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp2.adam.net.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RUzjc-0001Ns-Gf; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:20:56 +1030 Message-ID: <1322481056.1795.4.camel@tatooine> From: Craig Keogh To: Simon Werbeck Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:20:56 +1030 In-Reply-To: <4ED26380.8090907@gmail.com> References: <4ED26380.8090907@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] /usr/bin/ld: queryimmodules.o: undefined reference to symbol 'g_module_close' X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:51:11 -0000 On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 17:21 +0100, Simon Werbeck wrote: > I'm using jhbuild on ubuntu 11.10 for the totem player. When compiling > gtk+2 the build dies with: > > /usr/bin/ld: queryimmodules.o: undefined reference to symbol > 'g_module_close' > /usr/bin/ld: note: 'g_module_close' is defined in DSO > /opt/gnome/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 so try adding it to the linker > command line > /opt/gnome/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid > operation > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I'm getting the same error. gtk+-2 was compiling a few days ago. I'll let you know if I find the problem. -- Craig Keogh From cskeogh@adam.com.au Tue Nov 29 11:48:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-love@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F132175010D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:48:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zrLWzxAenX+K for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.adam.net.au (smtp2.adam.net.au [202.136.110.251]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831BD75013A for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 182-239-144-45.ip.adam.com.au ([182.239.144.45] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp2.adam.net.au with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RVMAW-0000FG-FQ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:18:12 +1030 Message-ID: <1322567291.1795.6.camel@tatooine> From: Craig Keogh To: Simon Werbeck Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:18:11 +1030 In-Reply-To: <1322481056.1795.4.camel@tatooine> References: <4ED26380.8090907@gmail.com> <1322481056.1795.4.camel@tatooine> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 (3.2.2-1.fc16) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-love@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-love] /usr/bin/ld: queryimmodules.o: undefined reference to symbol 'g_module_close' X-BeenThere: gnome-love@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Giving Love to GNOME user applications List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:48:27 -0000 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 22:20 +1030, Craig Keogh wrote: > I'm getting the same error. gtk+-2 was compiling a few days ago. I'll > let you know if I find the problem. > gtk+-2 now builds for me. Yours build too Simon? -- Craig Keogh