From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Thu Feb 1 09:03:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D463B00DA for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.388 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.388 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_WM=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1522 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KmmJOMHV4C4V for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FE93B00EE for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so808697nfc for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr688451buc.1170338604159; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702010603u23ad0c47ub79cde53278111d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:03:24 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Olav Vitters" Subject: Re: Dead link for "Joining the GNOME Project" on http://developer.gnome.org/helping/ In-Reply-To: <20070130202728.GM26743@bkor.dhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124" References: <1169775687.5343.1.camel@q35> <51419b2c0701251758k4be89c74saaf04547b82f3ad5@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0701300822n14594b0ftf74a6e4ee1d66f8@mail.gmail.com> <45BF7E3D.8020504@gnome.org> <6cd2ce8c0701300926j3a85d55egebf14abaab3452@mail.gmail.com> <20070130202728.GM26743@bkor.dhs.org> Cc: Dave Neary , GNOME web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:03:33 -0000 ------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 1/30/07, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:26:31PM +0000, Joachim wrote: > > >The SVN module gnomeweb-wml contains www.gnome.org; web-devel-2 > contains > > >developer.gnome.org. > > > > > > Ok. > > But is changing the files in SVN sufficient to updating the content on > the > > web, or is another step required? > > Yes. Ok. Fixed the page in SVN. ------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 1/30/07, Olav Vitters <olav@bkor.dhs.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:26:31PM +0000, Joachim wrote:
> >The SVN module gnomeweb-wml contains www.gnome.org; web-devel-2 contains
> > developer.gnome.org.
>
>
> Ok.
> But is changing the files in SVN sufficient to updating the content on the
> web, or is another step required?

Yes.

Ok.
Fixed the page in SVN.
------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124-- From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Thu Feb 1 15:57:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882153B00AD for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.111 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.111 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6330 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.175] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKmTAhHC0voi for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A913B008A for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so566085ugb for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.182.8 with SMTP id e8mr849755buf.1170363443109; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:57:23 +0000 From: Joachim To: "web list" Subject: Problems with content in plone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:57:34 -0000 Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. - I don't see how to start a new page - I don't see how to edit an existing page Quim, was there any response to your call for who's still in on this project? In other worrds, have we managed to lose the small number of interested writers we had? From william.hamilton@gmail.com Thu Feb 1 20:03:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569973B0002 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:36 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 327 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [203.109.146.61] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q+0D4h3ZF6IM for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from flame.igniter.co.nz (203-109-146-61.static.ihug.net [203.109.146.61]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D358D3B00AE for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [203.114.145.151] (203-114-145-151.wifi.dyn.inspire.net.nz [203.114.145.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by flame.igniter.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C11180AC; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:03:30 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:03:23 +1300 From: William Hamilton Organization: BTD User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:03:36 -0000 Joachim wrote: > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct rights to create/edit content. > - I don't see how to start a new page Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which you are allowed to add in the location. > - I don't see how to edit an existing page At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one should say "edit". The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID does not have the correct rights. HTH W From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sat Feb 3 05:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1E03B009D for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1566 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.191] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlw3hgrP82G3 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56593B0099 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1329789nfc for ; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr1508103bud.1170497356753; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 02:09:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:09:16 +0000 From: Joachim To: "William Hamilton" Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone In-Reply-To: <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719" References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:09:23 -0000 ------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't see any of that. Could someone check the accounts are set up properly? Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site certificates be removed? On 2/2/07, William Hamilton wrote: > > Joachim wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, > > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. > > I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you > are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone > layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct > rights to create/edit content. > > - I don't see how to start a new page > Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown > list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which > you are allowed to add in the location. > > > - I don't see how to edit an existing page > At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one > should say "edit". > > The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID does not > have the correct rights. > > HTH > > W > > ------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't see any of that.

Could someone check the accounts are set up properly?

Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site certificates be removed?

On 2/2/07, William Hamilton <william.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
Joachim wrote:
> Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site,
> and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out.

I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you
are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone
layout.  I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct
rights to create/edit content.
> - I don't see how to start a new page
Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown
list saying "add to folder".  This list should contain the types which
you are allowed to add in the location.

> - I don't see how to edit an existing page
At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one
should say "edit".

The above tasks _should_ be easy to do.  I suspect your UserID does not
have the correct rights.

HTH

W


------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Sat Feb 3 11:03:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D203B0017 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_QG=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 6833 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LeZ13kkd0Wxv for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6363B0090 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l13G2ujS026157; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:02:56 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9767FBAB; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xhokdO0QTSuC; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43215FB79; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C4B22E.2000209@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:02:54 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:02:56 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:03:06 -0000 I checked, your account is on editor group who can edit the and add new content ( the same rights as qgil who could add pages ). Can you send a screenshot of the root ( https://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ ) autenticated ? Ramon En/na Joachim ha escrit: > I don't see any of that. > > Could someone check the accounts are set up properly? > > Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three > pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site > certificates be removed? > > On 2/2/07, *William Hamilton* > wrote: > > Joachim wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test > site, > > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. > > I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the > system you > are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default > Plone > layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct > rights to create/edit content. > > - I don't see how to start a new page > Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a > dropdown > list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which > you are allowed to add in the location. > > > - I don't see how to edit an existing page > At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one > should say "edit". > > The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID > does not > have the correct rights. > > HTH > > W > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From kumorp@tlen.pl Thu Feb 1 17:50:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AE13B006E for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.708 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.708 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2257 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [193.17.41.142] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xnqL2MtGQfXF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (unknown [193.17.41.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686A23B006F for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (mx12 [127.0.0.1]) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835656280F8 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (systemy22.toya.net.pl [217.113.225.22]) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:13 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <171600DD-F340-456D-ABE1-131B816D9970@tlen.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: webmaster@gnome.org From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kumor?= Subject: Gnumeric Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:23:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:50:20 -0000 I was looking for gnumeric , best spreadsheets on the World and was glad find Your address. I would like this to buy for my Mac. Best wishes P.Kumor From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 4 14:43:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF83E3B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:43:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 4589 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q0SjhrOa6UL9 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84933B0086 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so1064322wra for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr531447wam.1170618175456; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:42:55 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:43:01 -0000 Hi Ramon, can we take out the Plone default portlets in the right column at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ ? - GNOME portlet example - Calendar - Last items Thank you. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 4 16:08:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CF13B00D0 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5260 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yNFVD-31G7Xw for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CFA3B010A for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1504042nzf for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with SMTP id u1mr530503wai.1170623307181; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:08:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:08:27 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Tuning one page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:08:33 -0000 I have put draft content at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/take-the-tour/ , let's use it as a test case to implement all the general improvements. - How can I make the URL be http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ ? Now this URL i showing a folder with all the pages, something we don't want to show. - In fact the generic URL should be http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/take-the-tour/ , then the /en/ would be added by browser negotiation and the rest of i18n rules we had agreed (that are documented, where?) - Where is the "Take the tour" title? - by Quim Gil out - by default we are not showing authors. - last modified 2007-02-04 22:41 - out by now, we might end up adding this kind of information in the footer, but it still needs to be properly implemented (who is going to do this?). - Document actions out, we haven agreed anything about 'email/print this page' - Language selection, out by now since we won have another languages for a while. When it comes back it needs to be located in the header, and offer the languages supported, not that Plone list that I guess responds to languages with Plone UI strings available. - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too small, do you agree? - How can I create blocks (portlets" to appear in the right column, only for this page? Thank you. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 4 16:57:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E783B0075 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1602 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K8+ycdxXDMwG for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF413B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1715375nfc for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.116.15 with SMTP id o15mr1795652buc.1170626240392; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:57:20 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343" References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:57:26 -0000 ------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/4/07, Quim Gil wrote: (snipping lots of stuff I agree with) - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > small, do you agree? Yes, it's too small. There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive debate like the XHTML. Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading. However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%. So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read. I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure why that is. ------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 2/4/07, Quim Gil <quimgil@gmail.com> wrote:

(snipping lots of stuff I agree with)

- We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too
small, do you agree?

Yes, it's too small.
There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive debate like the XHTML.
Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading.
However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%.
So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read.

I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure why that is.
------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 4 19:09:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9193B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jbH-sjrZiDXe for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17363B0014 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id C5F386CC0F8; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:02 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205000902.C5F386CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:02 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:09:05 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' Making all in gyrus make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/gyrus' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/gyrus' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 09:38:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCFB3B009D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TujAT1PYn9MS for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853573B0086 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 1E00C6CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:08 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205143808.1E00C6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:08 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:38:15 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 09:52:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03F93B0077 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cmQIZsZQzOTY for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B93B0078 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 456166CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:45 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205145245.456166CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:52:48 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 11:38:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD033B0094 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:38:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gT+KkIqNGNa9 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28193B0014 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 61A0D6CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:58 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205163758.61A0D6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:58 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:38:01 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Mon Feb 5 18:38:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5313B00BB for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7389 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Daqv3-7X8BLN for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A693B00CD for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l15Nc4nE006679 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:38:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F44FFBBA for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abjCsJOVaSnJ for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.132] (137.pool85-50-155.dynamic.orange.es [85.50.155.137]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94D2FB8F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C7BFDD.1000504@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:38:05 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome web Subject: [Fwd: Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site] X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000805020707090404050300" X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:38:04 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:38:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000805020707090404050300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------000805020707090404050300 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site" Message-ID: <45C7A729.9010907@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:52:41 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site References: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: > Hi Ramon, can we take out the Plone default portlets in the right > column at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ ? > > - GNOME portlet example > - Calendar > - Last items > > Thank you. > > Done --------------000805020707090404050300-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Tue Feb 6 04:21:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02B3B00D8 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7486 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TnmkO5bVsD+A for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DD63B0078 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l169LUIZ026016; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:21:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688A5F9AA; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cn+oXeP5cxWr; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.132] (191.pool85-50-142.dynamic.orange.es [85.50.142.191]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4928F90E; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:21:32 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:21:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:21:49 -0000 First of all I must remember to everybody that we decided to put the images on a folder : https://edit.gnome.jardigrec.eu/images/ After uploading the images we can use them on kupu on the diferent pages. This images directory is a large folder. En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: > I have put draft content at > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/take-the-tour/ , let's use > it as a test case to implement all the general improvements. > > - How can I make the URL be > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ ? Now this URL i showing a > folder with all the pages, something we don't want to show. > > - In fact the generic URL should be > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/take-the-tour/ , then the /en/ would be > added by browser negotiation and the rest of i18n rules we had agreed > (that are documented, where?) > > About the URL: This issue is tied to multilingual support , as we decided to have it on second iteration there is intention to solve it in this iteration. All i18n stuff was posponed to next iterate. I had this things solved but I didn't aplied just not to add multilingua support right now. > - Where is the "Take the tour" title? > > - by Quim Gil out - by default we are not showing authors. > > - last modified 2007-02-04 22:41 - out by now, we might end up > adding this kind of information in the footer, but it still needs to > be properly implemented (who is going to do this?). > > - Document actions out, we haven agreed anything about 'email/print this page' > > - Language selection, out by now since we won have another languages > for a while. When it comes back it needs to be located in the header, > and offer the languages supported, not that Plone list that I guess > responds to languages with Plone UI strings available. > > i'll put out all the things. > - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > small, do you agree? > yea > - How can I create blocks (portlets" to appear in the right column, > only for this page? > > You can create a "portlet" using the kupu, as it's on the same page. As it is designed in the mochup the secondary pages have some portlets ( banner, most important product, rss ? ) .... then where do you want to put this portlet ? > Thank you. > > From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 17:53:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706D3B006A for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NdOfXZWGNihI for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7645B3B0073 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 4C9386CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:36 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070206225336.4C9386CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:53:39 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 19:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEB33B01B2 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bYdIhq7k0uPO for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7B3B006F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id ECADE6CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207001142.ECADE6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:11:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Making all in js make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 19:36:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDF83B022F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GopOFJKSYHQZ for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3B53B006F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 95B026CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:46 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207003646.95B026CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:46 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:36:49 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Making all in js make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Wed Feb 7 02:23:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2326C3B006F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iMlYaozRTfAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40FF3B0072 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id CB3A46CC0C1; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:03 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207072303.CB3A46CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:03 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:23:08 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?). Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Wed Feb 7 02:53:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8519F3B006F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uKYEc1IZM+Xl for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE79E3B006A for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id B63626CC0C1; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:42 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207075342.B63626CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:53:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: *** No rule to make target ` ', needed by `all-am'. Stop. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: *** [all] Error 2 make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From glowball@gmx.net Fri Feb 9 10:28:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806223B0013 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.757 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.757 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, SPF_FAIL=1.142] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W3:.:?:?] (up: 294 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [84.16.224.147] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xQchqvRm3v-w for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from purple.nierenschaden.de (purple.nierenschaden.de [84.16.224.147]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C723B0011 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.128.1.14] (helo=dornkirk.core) by purple.nierenschaden.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HFXfi-00008O-FD for webmaster@gnome.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:22 +0100 Received: from hubert.core ([10.17.76.212]:41375) by dornkirk.core with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HFXfh-0002pO-TP for webmaster@gnome.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:23 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jens_D=C3=B6nhoff?= To: webmaster@gnome.org Subject: "Lost" links to some GNOME Architecture documentation Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:59:23 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:28:29 -0000 Hi. I stumbled over these () documents about GNOME filesystem modules, which I could not find starting at (it's missing in the navigation menu). The styles (layout, colors) also seem different, so perhaps that's some leftovers from an earlier clean-up (don't know whether the "missing" documentation has been merged with something else), or something has been forgotten somewhere. Just FYI ;) Greetings from bavaria, Jens From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sat Feb 10 08:06:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AC43B00AF for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehLBgCPx-mUO for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9374C3B0007 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 6C3786CC0C1; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:39 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070210130639.6C3786CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:39 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:06:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/images' Making all in screenshots make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make all-am make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[8]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' Making all in ORBit2 make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ORBit2' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ORBit2' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 10 16:22:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38493B0239 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.47 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5404 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JDBojuhcFN9T for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31E03B0155 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1262366nzf for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr6497515wae.1171142518860; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702101321y149d79f2qf2bf6b3818c39f67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:21:58 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "Ramon Navarro Bosch" Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:22:04 -0000 On 2/6/07, Ramon Navarro Bosch wrote: > You can create a "portlet" using the kupu, as it's on the same page. As > it is designed in the mochup the secondary pages have some portlets ( > banner, most important product, rss ? ) .... then where do you want to > put this portlet ? In the right column, as planned at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PageStructure # Related Links block to be positioned towards the right hand side of the main body text area. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 10 17:01:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B1A3B0077 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.473 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5405 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.233] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCGJKf28zlUm for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09233B0142 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1269633nzf for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.93.1 with SMTP id q1mr6510572wab.1171144905817; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:01:45 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" , gox@devbase.net Subject: library.gnome.org status MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:01:51 -0000 What's the current status of library.gnome.org? Still planned for 2.18 release? I wondering about the final destination of important documents such as - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ - http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/platform-overview/platform-overview.html btw, it would be useful to have a relation of documentation under dgo that NEEDS to be migrated before we desconnect the subsite. Please provide URLs at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DeveloperGnomeOrg#head-487ac217434e97aaeaa2fab4c88a7d817d24fc9f (Docs to be rescued) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sat Feb 10 17:24:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182C23B00B2 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9347 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAQMKW-tGb1i for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7EA3B002B for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HG0dy-0008A4-9q for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Safari Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:23:06 +0000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:24:47 -0000 Hi guys, Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in private if I can help out with any specifics. Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters wide, down the left hand side. I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but when you do... :) Martin From dulmandakh@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 03:21:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7593B0308 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.544 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5415 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.225] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n+1+215yaBaD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0053B0135 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1375132nzf for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr5472661wam.1171182072149; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.19 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:21:12 +0900 From: "DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar" To: "Martin Aspeli" Subject: Re: Safari In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:21:17 -0000 On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi guys, > > Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in > private if I can help out with any specifics. > > Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running > Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in > Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters > wide, down the left hand side. > > I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but > when you do... :) > Guys working on content and other stuffs. It would be better if you provide screenshot, version of your OS and browser. Maybe it'll help to solve the issue. Thank you. > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > -- Regards Dulmandakh From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 11 07:01:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC123B035C for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9483 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C3OQaNebW6AX for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5963B0351 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HGDO4-000126-Uc for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:57 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:56 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: Safari Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:59:29 +0000 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:01:15 -0000 DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar wrote: > On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in >> private if I can help out with any specifics. >> >> Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running >> Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in >> Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters >> wide, down the left hand side. >> >> I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but >> when you do... :) >> > > Guys working on content and other stuffs. It would be better if you > provide screenshot, version of your OS and browser. Maybe it'll help > to solve the issue. Thank you. Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a blindfold. Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. Martin From davconvent@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 09:08:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5713B0206 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.147 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.147 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 936 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [85.234.192.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G58lwfbvQDo6 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ulysse.talessa.com (ulysse.talessa.com [85.234.192.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374813B0192 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from bru02-1-1-197-6.adsl.hyperline.be ([85.234.197.6] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by ulysse.talessa.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HGFNp-0001oZ-Kw for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:08:49 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gnome web From: David Convent Subject: Secondary Navbar Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:08:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:08:55 -0000 Hi list, Sorry I've been close to missing last month. I saw recent checkins in the gnometheme product for implementing the secondary navigation bar for the plone theme. I know this is still a work in progress but I already have a few remarks to address. I also hope I'll have a few hours this afternoon/evening/week to help improving it: - in 'gnometheme/skins/gnome_custom_templates/global_sections.pt': I see some redundant code that might be expensive (define selected_tabs and selected_portal_tab) this code should reside in a wrapper to make it called only once. - in 'gnometheme/skins/gnome_scripts/secondaryNavBar.py': Calculating the secondary nav bar with restrictedTraverse() and getFolderContents() is also very expensive. Another problem wit that method is that we'll have to reinvent the way the second navbar will play with default pages and linguaplone (when needed). The second navbar should be done from a catalog query. Ideally, I think we could get inspired by the way the navtree works to adapt it to our needs. I'll try to strart that work ASAP to show the way. From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 12:04:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E513B0363 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1765 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z5j72oEvFDE3 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042EA3B02FD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1723215nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr7350822buc.1171213450701; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:04:10 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Martin Aspeli" Subject: Re: Safari In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:04:16 -0000 On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but > fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a blindfold. > Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. I can confirm it on Safari 2.0.4, also on OS X 10.4.8 which is the latest. Doesn't Safari use the rendering engine from KHTML? It's all a ploy to stop KDE users reading our site! ;) From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 12:07:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF53B0363 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1765 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.187] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35h3O1t1swTc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CB43B02FD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1723718nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr8309148bue.1171213623336; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:07:03 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:07:12 -0000 On 2/10/07, Quim Gil wrote: > What's the current status of library.gnome.org? Still planned for 2.18 release? Shaun mentioned this on IRC a couple of weeks back. What I gathered was: - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished - The code needs some work, but I don't know what. It's in our SVN and in python. > I wondering about the final destination of important documents such as > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > btw, it would be useful to have a relation of documentation under dgo > that NEEDS to be migrated before we desconnect the subsite. There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 12:50:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F143B0370 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6567 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.173] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YXQgV3xLvXOp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7182C3B0362 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so334507ugb for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.204.3 with SMTP id b3mr6576221wag.1171216216524; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:50:16 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: Joachim Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, ensonic@sonicpulse.de, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:50:21 -0000 On 2/11/07, Joachim wrote: > > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished > - The code needs some work, but I don't know what. It's in our SVN and > in python. Right. Here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/ Who "owns" this project now? Documentation team? Stefan Kost talk to me this week. He was really intererested in the status of this project and he was fearing that the guy had disappeared without leaving the source code. Good to see that our worst case scenario is in fact better than it could be. Is Shaun the only person that was following this project? Did I heard Danilo had also something to do with it? I guess the question is if we have the resources to work on the current code and release library.gnome.org at some point. Shaun and Danilo are not the most bored guys of the planet... :) > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. > There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, > and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. Can you find out where, please? -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 13:05:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183A13B03E9 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1766 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wUzniduozvLW for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72713B03A0 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1734145nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr8401916buf.1171217120946; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702111005p7073e55cga5f93b9606f6e1fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:05:20 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, ensonic@sonicpulse.de, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:05:30 -0000 On 2/11/07, Quim Gil wrote: > On 2/11/07, Joachim wrote: > Right. Here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/ > > Who "owns" this project now? Documentation team? I assume so, but you'd have to ask Shaun. IIRC he was mentoring the SoC guy. > > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > > The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. No, that could be it. Keeping the development version of this in a website module is probably what struck me as weird. > > There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, > > and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. > > Can you find out where, please? http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/CvsModules The library.g.o code should know about this and pull the text from the repository, AFAIK. From olav@bkor.dhs.org Sun Feb 11 16:02:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F203B00F4 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 239 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ed5qxczg+Ntp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C876B3B01B3 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 130B42703A7; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:25 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status Message-ID: <20070211210225.GA14750@bkor.dhs.org> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:02:36 -0000 On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:50:16PM +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > > The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. As a warning: It is not as easy as you might think. Developer.gnome.org is made up of different svn modules. The 'html' parts are mostly in web-devel-2. However, there are others like: URL part SVN module /documents/ gnome-devel-docs /gep gep /dotplan/porting porting-doc /status/ gnome-2-plan (above list is very incomplete) Some of the documentation was built out of modules that currently do not have that documentation anymore (only in history). Further, above is just the modules I know about. I know that for www.gnome.org and developer.gnome.org some modules directly install into the site itself (making it difficult to understand which SVN modules are used for www.gnome.org and developer.gnome.org). After the switch to SVN, I wanted to wipe out the existing d.g.o (because of all the 'CVS' directories, etc). I planned to 'just' build it from source again. I am still glad I decided otherwise. Some of d.g.o currently cannot be updated anymore. The only real solution that I see is building d.g.o to another directory and comparing which files (or maybe just directories) are not in web-devel-2. Note that I agree that all documentation should go to library.gnome.org and maybe we that should just be done (meaning, forget about checking all the possible d.g.o documents, just place docs we care about on library.g.o). -- Regards, Olav From kevin@bud.ca Sun Feb 11 21:09:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BAD3B00A8 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.664 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [33015:53:1:64:M1460, N, W2, N, N, T, N, N, S:.:?:?] (up: 5784 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [24.71.223.10] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RJMJCZd0y4fp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9BC3B007B for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JDB00CM3VBTFN70@l-daemon> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JDB00CHMVBSYSA1@pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.12.101] ([70.79.26.46]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JDB005AUVBR2LL0@l-daemon> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:09:13 -0800 From: Kevin Teague Subject: Re: Safari In-reply-to: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> To: Joachim Message-id: <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, Martin Aspeli X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:09:39 -0000 The current gnome #page Selector has this declaration: overflow: hidden; Safari seems to interpret the default width for this div as being very small :( There are two fixes that I've just tested that could work: 1. Remove the overflow property from the #page Selector. 2. Add a width property to the #page Selector, this works on Safari and Firefox on Mac for me: width: 100%; Both of these fixes seem to work on the latest versions of Safari and Firefox on Mac, but perhaps the overflow property needs to be set for IE? I don't have any IE to test it on, so I can't say if either of these changes messes up the IE layout. - Kevin On Feb 11, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Joachim wrote: > On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but >> fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a >> blindfold. >> Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. > > I can confirm it on Safari 2.0.4, also on OS X 10.4.8 which is the > latest. > > Doesn't Safari use the rendering engine from KHTML? > It's all a ploy to stop KDE users reading our site! ;) > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From vincent@vuntz.net Mon Feb 12 05:22:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607EC3B00CA; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:22:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.387 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.387 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.076, BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:46:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W4:.:?:?] (up: 5273 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [82.228.182.88] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FvvOfjwLw3Nn; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.228.182.88]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2FB3B00D8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7002A1126B6; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:21:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:21:57 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: Guy Johnston Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux Message-ID: <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:22:02 -0000 Hi Guy, Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : > Hi, > > I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME > offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." > The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole > GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the > GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, > and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought the > project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the system, > to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the > ideals of free software are for the development of this operating > system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is used > with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read > 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. We already agreed on this a few months ago: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From philn@avalon.com.au Mon Feb 12 01:38:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647DB3B00DB for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2157 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [150.101.131.13] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vr77OH+Nb4Sm for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from camden.avalon.com.au (unknown [150.101.131.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5110A3B00C3 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.46] ([192.168.1.46]) by camden.avalon.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1C6bSPe023813 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 Subject: The GNOME Documentation Style Guide From: Phil Nitschke To: webmaster@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Avalon Systems Pty Ltd Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 Message-Id: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.5 (camden.avalon.com.au [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 (CST) X-Avalon-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Avalon-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.543, required 4, autolearn=, AWL 0.06, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: philn@avalon.com.au X-MailScanner-To: webmaster@gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:02:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Phil.Nitschke@avalon.com.au List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:38:07 -0000 Hi, The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this style-guide? Thanks, -- Phil From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Mon Feb 12 06:49:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55C3B010C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1784 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5nqAAo7zexex for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610E3B00F4 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1933228nfc for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.187.16 with SMTP id k16mr6458283buf.1171280958022; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702120349r7b5fdf6bs8cbdcb88569a0944@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:49:17 +0000 From: Joachim To: Phil.Nitschke@avalon.com.au Subject: Re: The GNOME Documentation Style Guide In-Reply-To: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587" References: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:49:24 -0000 ------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/12/07, Phil Nitschke wrote: > > The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken: > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html > > Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this > style-guide? Hi. I don't think that is currently available online, unfortunately. Things are a bit of a mess right now, sorry :( You can get it from our SVN repository (and it's a more recent version than what was online), under /gnome-docu/gdp/style/ See http://live.gnome.org/SubversionFAQ for help with SVN. That'll get you a bunch of XML docbook files. Open style-guide.xml in Yelp. If you're writing documentation, join the gnome-doc-list and say hi :) ------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 2/12/07, Phil Nitschke <philn@avalon.com.au> wrote:
The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken:
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html

Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this
style-guide?
 
Hi.
I don't think that is currently available online, unfortunately. Things are a bit of a mess right now, sorry :(
 
You can get it from our SVN repository (and it's a more recent version than what was online), under /gnome-docu/gdp/style/
See http://live.gnome.org/SubversionFAQ for help with SVN.
That'll get you a bunch of XML docbook files. Open style-guide.xml in Yelp.
 
If you're writing documentation, join the gnome-doc-list and say hi :)

 
------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 13:33:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDABF3B011D for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id czdNwlvb9aHi for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C503B0008 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id CBA7C6CC0C1; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:32 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212183332.CBA7C6CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:36 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 16:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6433B00CA for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hMQu7JhHsWzd for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A783B0142 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 81DF26CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:58 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:58 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:58:32 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From olav@bkor.dhs.org Mon Feb 12 17:28:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99613B0164 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.209 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.991, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 235 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gHa3+c2WbGyf for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761F23B0169 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id D221573A964; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:28:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:28:46 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-ID: <20070212222846.GD3982@bkor.dhs.org> References: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:28:51 -0000 On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 04:57:58PM -0500, Web Site Maintainance wrote: > Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. > > Last few lines of output: If I have made no mistakes, the script should now list the person who made the last commit and also a link to viewcvs. The person who made the last commit will also be CC'ed (you broke it, you fix it). The last commit does not have to be the person who broke the build. Meaning: 1. Lots of commits by various person before the script runs. As the script only sees the last commit, it assumes that person broke it. 2. After a breakage, someone else commits. Script assumes that one broke the build I could fix #2 by storing the person who broke the build somewhere (and remove that info as soon as it builds again). Currently it will always look at the last commit. -- Regards, Olav From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 17:33:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC33B015C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1-ZZxHTuxNzJ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400F23B00A3; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 1EA716CC0C1; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:50 -0500 (EST) To: btimothy@gnome.org, gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212223350.1EA716CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:33:54 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: btimothy ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5020&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 18:03:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD75B3B0228 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zV5HpcE4kYQw; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECCB3B01E3; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 176C76CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, nnielsen@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212230349.176C76CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:03:54 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: nnielsen ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5021&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 18:33:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31063B008C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xj9inINXxi6k; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD6F3B0073; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 48E186CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:09 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, mmattioni@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212233309.48E186CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:09 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:33:13 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: mmattioni ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5022&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 13 05:54:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214413B010E for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7N7Rfe9ANBeZ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441C3B00D9; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 401DB6CC0C1; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:36 -0500 (EST) To: friemann@gnome.org, gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070213105436.401DB6CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:36 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:54:41 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: friemann ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5023&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 13 06:47:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545F53B00A1 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:47:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxkoalS2G66t; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F573B000C; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 70F146CC0F8; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:57 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, xaviblas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070213114657.70F146CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:57 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:47:00 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: xaviblas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5024&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in chronojump make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `chronojump_sistema_de_medida_congreso_gpul.pdf', needed by `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Wed Feb 14 07:33:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5D73B0072 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9438 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGRcOUsJaUjk for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6AD3B008A for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1ECXGE1013019 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F4AFC70 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gsUhQeK1uER9 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E7EF911 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D30189.3040702@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:13 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome web Subject: [WGO] New things X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:16 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:33:25 -0000 Some things : * secondNavBar is uploaded on devsite. you can see that on http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ you see the different sections on take-the-tour... you can see the problem ... which is the best solution ? * products : I'm going to upload the product today night and also the mainpage. Ramon From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Wed Feb 14 08:08:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716403B0099; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9444 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSRLBmzi4Pj7; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8693B000C; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1ED7wlk018118; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE17F98F; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f8Pj3BcT2TQ2; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D7F93B; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:55 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: panos.laganakos@gmail.com Subject: Re: gnome tour mockup References: <61595bf30702101317t4dac76e1kfa13492651f620c6@mail.gmail.com> <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web , GNOME Marketing List X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:08:06 -0000 En/na Thilo Pfennig ha escrit: > On 2/13/07, Panos Laganakos wrote: > >> Here's an update: >> >> ... >> > > Hi Panos, > > I like this - idea and how you did it. Question is how well this can > be done with Plone. But maybe you or others already know how to do > this. Would be nice to see such ideas be implemented. > > Hi everybody ! Yea it's a really nice mockup but I have some opinions : * First is that if we are talking about using the most standard web pages to be compatible with all the browsers it's not so nice to fill the wgo with javascript. * Second we are few people on wgo, so adding AJAX framework will it make more complicated and dificult to maintain. * Third if what we want is creating a presentation , we can use S5 for example Panos, what do you need as "AJAX" to make this mockup a webpage ? Ramon From grakic@devbase.net Thu Feb 15 21:01:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DC3B002B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.759 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.759 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.841, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 (up: 6154 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [216.86.168.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mnGeT6q9ey0z for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8633B0007 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [89.216.141.47]) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BE151941 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Goran Rakic To: gnome web In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:04:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:01:36 -0000 У нед, 11. 02 2007. у 17:07 +0000, Joachim пише: > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished Last time I checked, I was still here, reachable on this email address. Anyway, I take all the blame for not comunicating with others as I should. I should update GnomeWeb/Library wiki page but I still do think that everything can be done for 2.18 release. On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on mockups I did and I need to integrate gettext support for static content (index pages for browsing documentation). After that, there is nothing major stoping us to put library-web on progress.gnome.org as Danilo suggested some time ago. -- Goran Rakic aka "The vanished" From murrayc@murrayc.com Fri Feb 16 07:12:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ADF3B010B for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.192 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.192 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.308, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077, WHY_WAIT=0.638] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 914 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [208.97.132.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XdbsShgfVTcD for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from swarthymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-207.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0910A3B0121 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.43] (u25-56.dsl.vianetworks.de [212.168.164.56]) by swarthymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7824EE942; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Murray Cumming To: Goran Rakic In-Reply-To: <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:07:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:12:34 -0000 On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 03:04 +0100, Goran Rakic wrote: > У нед, 11. 02 2007. у 17:07 +0000, Joachim пише: > > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished > > Last time I checked, I was still here, reachable on this email address. > Anyway, I take all the blame for not comunicating with others as I > should. > > I should update GnomeWeb/Library wiki page but I still do think that > everything can be done for 2.18 release. > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > mockups I did What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would be nice. > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > (index pages for browsing documentation). Is that a python coding task? > After that, there is nothing > major stoping us to put library-web on progress.gnome.org as Danilo > suggested some time ago. Great. But why wait for these extra items? They are nice, but they don't sound essential for a first release. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 08:19:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F1B3B0189 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1881 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mNgZmuRQc4H8 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D903B0126 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1304981nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr4679428bue.1171631941454; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702160519i297c479fsa1e6298b88508403@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:19:01 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Goran Rakic" Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <1171591043.15633.15.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.963 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.963 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.484, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 (up: 6167 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [216.86.168.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1zdjhlbIeh53 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE033B01CB for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [89.216.141.47]) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779EA5197E; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:06:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Goran Rakic To: Murray Cumming In-Reply-To: <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:08:20 +0100 Message-Id: <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:07:37 -0000 У пет, 16. 02 2007. у 13:07 +0100, Murray Cumming пише: > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > > mockups I did > > What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would > be nice. Sure, db2html.xsl[1] is overriding styles defined in Shaun's gnome-doc-utils styles for converting docbook to HTML. What's necessary is to have TOC on every page and to have previous/next navigation bar. There are also issues with some cross-referenced links going to yelp://... instead to other HTML page. Other file is gtk-doc.xsl[2], overriding default style for converting gtk-doc documents to HTML. There are also issues with links to other documents, like linking to glib API from epiphany API. I don't know to which version of glib API documentation should links go and how to fix this issue. It will be ugly just to remove outside links, but that can work for now. [1]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gdu/xslt/db2html.xsl [2]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gtkdoc/xslt/gtk-doc.xsl > > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > > (index pages for browsing documentation). > > Is that a python coding task? Yes it is, it is necessary so one can browse localized documentation using localized website, and it is not a major programming task. I think it will be irritating for translation teams to go live without this feature enabled. -- Goran Rakic From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 16:56:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276BD3B0121 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5549 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.231] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pmb6t7K+Wdix for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280D93B0014 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1107433nzf for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.205.1 with SMTP id c1mr2194301wag.1171663011983; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702161356l2447a45etc3d7877f8c1c35f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:56:51 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Ramon Navarro Bosch" Subject: Re: gnome tour mockup In-Reply-To: <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:20:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.638 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.638 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.360, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, L_P0F_Unix=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 9.1 (up: 3 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [206.46.252.44] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7pfFmuE9rAjK for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50073B00B3 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.28] ([70.17.113.243]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JDK00AD9W54O940@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:05:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:05:28 -0500 From: Curtis Hovey Subject: Re: gnome tour mockup In-reply-to: <61595bf30702161356l2447a45etc3d7877f8c1c35f3@mail.gmail.com> To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Message-id: <1171667128.5711.40.camel@localhost> Organization: i MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <61595bf30702101317t4dac76e1kfa13492651f620c6@mail.gmail.com> <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> <61595bf30702161356l2447a45etc3d7877f8c1c35f3@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: sinzui.is@verizon.net List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:20:04 -0000 On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 23:56 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > Excuse if I don get into details, some of the technical aspects escape > to my knowledge (i.e. why AJAXś javascript is "worse" than E5's JS) This issue is not AJAX verses JavaScript. The issue ultimately is if JavaScript is required for the user experience, and how robust must it be. EcmaScript is a standard, but no browser has been perfect at implementing it. Every browser has proprietary additions. Successful JavaScript implementations test for features before using them, provide implementations for missing features, and offer some form of graceful degradation when implementations are not available. Just three years ago, it was very difficult to make a sophisticated and reliable JavaScript app because every micro release of a browser broke API compatibility with the previous release. The problem was compounded by the CSS engine, which JavaScript uses to accomplish the in-page effects. The success of AJAX is ultimately derived from proven (almost paranoid) cross browser and cross engine testing. Libraries like Prototype + Scriptaculous or JQuery, provide tested features and effect that do work in IE, Moz, KHTML, Safari, and Opera. Other browsers are not guaranteed, and if they must be supported, then additional labor is need to update the browser and/or the AJAX library. As an aside, a lot of so called AJAX is nothing more that dynamic HTML since there is no asynchronous requests for data. Using JavaScript means we are committing additional time to develop, test, and maintain. Authors must know what CSS ids and classes to apply to their content to enable a feature. Developers must create scripts that know when to wire their event handlers to those CSS ids and classes (and when not to). Authors generally do not require anything more interactive that hyperlinking. Applications like browsing and searching through structured data will be more usable if the interface is more responsive, and illustrative of how information is organized. All that said. JQuery or Scriptaculous can do some astounding sweet effects and compelling functions that do not require plugins. You can make amazing presentations that include cross-fading and moving that look like GL-based composting. An adept developer can use these libraries to do a selection and transition in a single line of code. PS, remember that many people ask search engines before asking gnome.org. We should not permit our data and functions to lock out bots just because they are blind idiot savants without JavaScript or CSS. > My points are: > > - Whatever we do needs to be easily editable via the CMS. > > - Whatever we do needs to fit in http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WebPolicies > > - We can start doing something simple but effective that can be ready > for the launch. Then with a website already launched we can work on > improvemts without this time pressure. Working from scratch without > further references and with a tight deadline it's too unpleasant. > > - Anyway the most elaborated tour we could imagine will need some > static pages to start discussing a build upon. Perhaps by now we don > need anything else than these static pages. > -- __C U R T I S C. H O V E Y____________________ sinzui.is@verizon.net Guilty of stealing everything I am. From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 18:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1263B00B8 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:39:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1892 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.191] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bnW-hmpDWii2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C0F3B00B2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1457893nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr2946691nfl.1171669136711; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:38:56 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Plone account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:39:02 -0000 Hello, How does one get a Plone account on the demo site? I would like one. Thanks, Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 19:49:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3263B00B2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1893 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.189] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qX+AAx-Yv0qa for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6943B0097 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1470822nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.20.1 with SMTP id x1mr2971476nfi.1171673370353; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:49:30 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Plone setup in svn? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:49:35 -0000 Hi again, Are the configuration/theme/patches etc that will be used for the WGO Plone install in SVN? If not, should they be? It would be great if they were and people could setup their own local installs of Plone to tweak it for performance, features, etc. Thanks, and sorry if I'm brining up things covered by old threads, I searched the archives and didn't see anything. Gabriel From duffy@redhat.com Fri Feb 16 21:03:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BFC3B0086 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 5334 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QBcm6jXRj9j7 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489D93B006D for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1H230O2001442 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:00 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1H22xiq009452 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.5] (vpn-248-5.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.5]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1H22w8Z011154 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:59 -0500 Message-ID: <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:56 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Plone account References: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:03:05 -0000 Gabriel Burt wrote: > How does one get a Plone account on the demo site? I would like one. Me too! ~m From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 03:13:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69F73B007B for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 4914 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.227] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3xyvniFdPpBx for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368183B006D for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1216720wxc for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr2296544wam.1171700028957; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702170013u6cf0b901s9f87e373f3d4bd26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:13:48 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=" Subject: Re: Plone account In-Reply-To: <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae6259524d77dcb5 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:13:56 -0000 VGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgc2FuZGJveDogaHR0cDovL2phcmRpZ3JlYy5ldTo4MDI4L3NhbmRib3gvCgpB bmQgdGhpcyBpcyB3aGVyZSBuZXcgdXNlcnMgZ2V0IGFuIGFjY291bnQ6Cmh0dHA6Ly9qYXJkaWdy ZWMuZXU6ODAyOC9zYW5kYm94L2pvaW5fZm9ybQoKVGhlIHNpdGUgd2l0aCBhIEdOT01FIGxvb2sg aXMgbm90IGEgZGVtbyBzaXRlLCBpdCBpcyBvdXIgcmVhbCBhbmQgb25seQpHTk9NRSBpbnN0YWxs YXRpb24uIElmIGl0IGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgZGVtbyBpdLYgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGVyZSBpcyBzdGlsbApz byBtdWNoIHdvcmsgdG8gZG8hCgpZb3UgY2FuIHJlcXVlc3QgYWNjZXNzIHRvIGVkaXRpbmcgdGhl IHJlYWwgc2l0ZSBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIGdvaW5nIHRvCndvcmsgcmVhbGx5IG9uIGl0LiBJZiB5b3Ug d2FudCB0byBrbm93IG1vcmUgYWJvdXQgUGxvbmUgcGxlYXNlIHVzZSB0aGUKc2FuZGJveC4KCgoK T24gMi8xNy8wNywgTeFpcu1uIER1ZmZ5IDxkdWZmeUByZWRoYXQuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKPiBHYWJy aWVsIEJ1cnQgd3JvdGU6Cj4gPiBIb3cgZG9lcyBvbmUgZ2V0IGEgUGxvbmUgYWNjb3VudCBvbiB0 aGUgZGVtbyBzaXRlPwoKCi0tIApRdWltIEdpbCAvLy8gaHR0cDovL2Rlc2RlYW1lcmljYWNvbmFt b3Iub3JnCg== From davconvent@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 04:12:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ECD3B007B for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.453 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 2327 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [85.234.192.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KhaySjIcLV3F for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ulysse.talessa.com (ulysse.talessa.com [85.234.192.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA19A3B006D for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from [193.172.12.91] (helo=[192.168.12.91]) by ulysse.talessa.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HILca-0006L6-QN; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:12:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:12:28 +0100 To: Gabriel Burt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:12:53 -0000 https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/ This is the svn repository for the WGO project https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/gnometheme/trunk this is the Plone Theme and Portal Setup :-) I guess you'd ask Ramon for write access on the repos Cheers, David On 17 Feb 2007, at 01:49, Gabriel Burt wrote: > Hi again, > > Are the configuration/theme/patches etc that will be used for the WGO > Plone install in SVN? If not, should they be? It would be great if > they were and people could setup their own local installs of Plone to > tweak it for performance, features, etc. > > Thanks, and sorry if I'm brining up things covered by old threads, I > searched the archives and didn't see anything. > > Gabriel > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 18:22:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D93A3B0003 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.386 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.137, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1915 hrs), (distance 20, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7rux5KMlX7LQ for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA813B007E for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1713148nfc for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr7693517buc.1171754555708; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:22:35 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "David Convent" Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:22:41 -0000 On 2/17/07, David Convent wrote: > https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/ > This is the svn repository for the WGO project > > https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/gnometheme/trunk > this is the Plone Theme and Portal Setup :-) > > I guess you'd ask Ramon for write access on the repos It seems even read access requires a password. Is there a reason not to have this in Gnome SVN? Also, is there a wiki page that explains all this that I am missing? Thanks, Gabriel From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 00:34:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA183B00CA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5580 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Znzs1WqL6qeR for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BB13B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1474708nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr1605671wab.1171776859255; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172134t6e23e675xfc392dfaa65bb8a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:34:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Gabriel Burt" Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? In-Reply-To: <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b0e33a6481513aa5 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:34:24 -0000 aHR0cDovL2xpdmUuZ25vbWUub3JnL0dub21lV2ViL0Ntc1NldHVwCgpUaGUgUGxvbmUgc3R1ZmYg c3RhcnRlZCBhcm91bmQgUmFtb262IGF2YWlsYWJsZSBpbmZyYXN0cnVjdHVyZS4gV2UKbmVlZCB0 byBzdGFydCBtb3ZpbmcgZXZlcnl0aGluZyB0byBHTk9NRSdzIGluZnJhc3RydWN0dXJlIC0gc29v bi4gVGhlCnByb2JsZW0gaXMgdGhhdCBzeXNhZG1pbnMgYXJlIGJ1c3kgYW5kIGl0J3MgZGFtbiB0 b3VnaCB0byBncmV0CmFuc3dlcnMvcGxhbnMvYWN0aW9ucwoKUmFtb24sIGhhdmUgeW91IHJlcXVl c3RlZCBhIEdOT01FIGFjY291bnQgYWxyZWFkeT8KaHR0cDovL2xpdmUuZ25vbWUub3JnL05ld0Fj Y291bnRzCgpJZiBub3QsIGRvIGl0IG5vdyBwbGVhc2UuICBNZW50aW9uIHRoYXQgeW91IGFyZSBj b29yZGluYXRpbmcgd2dvCnJldmFtcC4gSSB3aWxsIGFzayBpbiBnbm9tZS1pbmZyYXN0cnVjdHVy ZSBhZ2FpbiBob3cgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIHByb2NlZWQKd2l0aCB0aGUgcGxvbmUgcGxhbi4KCgpPbiAy LzE4LzA3LCBHYWJyaWVsIEJ1cnQgPGdhYnJpZWwuYnVydEBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgoKPiBJ dCBzZWVtcyBldmVuIHJlYWQgYWNjZXNzIHJlcXVpcmVzIGEgcGFzc3dvcmQuICBJcyB0aGVyZSBh IHJlYXNvbiBub3QKPiB0byBoYXZlIHRoaXMgaW4gR25vbWUgU1ZOPyAgQWxzbywgaXMgdGhlcmUg YSB3aWtpIHBhZ2UgdGhhdCBleHBsYWlucwo+IGFsbCB0aGlzIHRoYXQgSSBhbSBtaXNzaW5nPyAg VGhhbmtzLAoKLS0gClF1aW0gR2lsIC8vLyBodHRwOi8vZGVzZGVhbWVyaWNhY29uYW1vci5vcmcK From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 01:24:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01433B00E8 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5581 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.239] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gv+xuXhYaFHd for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31323B00EA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1483250nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr2501933wad.1171779860671; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:24:20 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5611ec6839921fbe X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:24:26 -0000 We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference to discuss. *** GNOME bar (black at the top) - We can consider it a stable beta. - Look&feel works, URLs work. - Still open to improvements but it can be released as it is now. *** wgo primary bar (the tabs) - Still missing tabs, I will add them. - I think the eyes notice first the secondary bar and consider it more relevant. Tabs should be bigger, perhaphs brighter. Bolder fonts? Also, the fact that is aligned to the right helps its non-visibility next to the secondary bar. - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees clearly where she is. - The tab of the current section could have no border to the secondary nav bar, this way we have a single navigation bar, so to say. This way we also avoid having to duplicate items in primary and secondary. Now "Take the tour" appears twice. - Clicking to a tab should bring the user automatically to the page. If I click to the "Take the tour" tab I should get the content. Now http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ is an index. *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), they need to be bigger. - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so users know where they are. - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of the last tab in the primary nav bar. - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal scrolling, as many websites do. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 02:02:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B663B00EA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5582 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.229] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f5Rn5Qcfy6g5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFBA3B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1489460nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.111.1 with SMTP id j1mr2509943wac.1171782154057; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172302x41e692a5pfcaa22f6047cb7d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:02:34 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a6e85d83bd9f534c X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:41 -0000 On 2/18/07, Quim Gil wrote: > - Still missing tabs, I will add them. Items in wgo primary bar added. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation#head-7f5aaae9cd84c09c3b124dd905d204793c25e372 will help us not forgetting things. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 18 04:38:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9009A3B00DE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.103 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AWjtoikhDNQC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9483B0080 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1807350nfc for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.187.16 with SMTP id k16mr8186979buf.1171791489184; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:38:09 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Quim Gil" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130" References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:38:14 -0000 ------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/18/07, Quim Gil wrote: > > We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. > > Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference > to discuss. (snip) *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed. - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. ------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation.

Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference
to discuss.
(snip)

*** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs)
- Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo),
they need to be bigger.
 
Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed.

- Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each
item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the
Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in
800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal
scrolling, as many websites do.
 
It'll never fit at 800 with that many items.
 

 
------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130-- From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 05:24:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFE63B00C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:24:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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Suggestion (if it's technically feasible): let's customize now this Plone app to our needs, leaving the DOAP thing for the next release cycle. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From leetambiah@ossgeeks.co.uk Sun Feb 18 07:02:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE1B3B0080 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.126 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.126 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.338, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) (NAT!), (distance 19, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [83.138.142.194] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5WV97u3wfKS for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk (ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk [83.138.142.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886053B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30747 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2007 12:01:50 +0000 Received: from 62-30-117-58.cable.ubr03.perr.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (62.30.117.58) by netexplorers.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Feb 2007 12:01:50 +0000 Message-ID: <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:02:16 +0000 From: LeeTambiah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000607060106030905070101" Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:02:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000607060106030905070101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joachim wrote: > > > On 2/18/07, *Quim Gil* > wrote: > > We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. > > Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference > to discuss. > > (snip) > > *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. > > > Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body > element needs to be increased or removed. > > - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. > > > It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. I agree the are too many items for this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > --------------000607060106030905070101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joachim wrote:


On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation.

Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference
to discuss.
(snip)

*** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs)
- Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo),
they need to be bigger.
 
Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed.

- Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each
item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the
Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in
800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal
scrolling, as many websites do.
 
It'll never fit at 800 with that many items.
I agree the are too many items for this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png.
 

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It'll never fit at 800 with that many = items.
I agree the are too many items for = this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu = website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps = we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/alb= ums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png.
= To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a = navigationbar=85

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On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
Ramon, have you installed the GNOME Products engine?

Suggestion (if it's technically feasible): let's customize now this
Plone app to our needs, leaving the DOAP thing for the next release
cycle.

It's possible, but depends on what do you want to customize. I suggest putting it up and generating a list of things to change/do and see what is feasible and what isn't (and where we should do that, also).
As I repeatedly stated, DOAP is quite trivial to implement: I already made a doap_feed that exports some attributes. The only headache might be the integration with LinguaPlone.

Btw, would also be cool if Simon can check a "live" version of my prototype: however it just exports a couple of attributes, I want to be sure I'm doing things the right way.

PS Could be better if we can update the doap-branch as of tonight, when I'll be uploading some changes

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- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_19575_10266244.1171813754700-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 10:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8143B0172 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:53:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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(up: 4947 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.227] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4eMpH7xLdd5q for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B553B00C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1542632wxc for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.84.6 with SMTP id h6mr9489438wxb.1171819726491; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [216.254.68.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h17sm11054864wxd.2007.02.18.09.28.43; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45D88CC5.4080305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:37 -0500 From: Ricky Zhou User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:28:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Joachim wrote: > Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element > needs to be increased or removed. As I noted in the CSS, font-size: 76% was to supposedly get the base font size consistent throughout most browsers (perhaps I should have cited the source - http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/ in my comment). To make font size changes, I'd recommend setting it in ex in #wrapper instead. (yes, I switched from em to ex after reading this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Em_vs._ex) > It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. I completely agree. Having so much text (and so many links) on one line is probably bad for readability/usability too. - -Ricky -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF2IzFiXbZ7NjlUcARAv/LAJwJWiiJ03etxKQR7qQA5sNOCkBxPQCcC2yY DJdri69YlmHCFJjFrT4Y99M= =PRzo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From leetambiah@ossgeeks.co.uk Sun Feb 18 12:52:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BA73B00FF for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.147 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.317, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) (NAT!), (distance 19, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [83.138.142.194] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LEwNYH+3jPC9 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk (ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk [83.138.142.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C63B01AA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22274 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2007 17:51:02 +0000 Received: from 62-30-117-58.cable.ubr03.perr.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (62.30.117.58) by netexplorers.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Feb 2007 17:51:02 +0000 Message-ID: <45D89220.6030302@ossgeeks.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:51:28 +0000 From: LeeTambiah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> <2ab6fe210702180753j2a30188ft5d5fc5ca0375f2a5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702180753j2a30188ft5d5fc5ca0375f2a5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010103090407080305080005" Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:52:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010103090407080305080005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Simone Deponti wrote: > > To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a > navigationbar… > > > I'm all in favor for the introduction of a breadcrumb or a side menu > like the original plone one, maybe starting from the 3rd level only. > As I repeatedly stated, I'm concerned there might be navigational > issues if we just rely on the tab-bar and the secondary navbar. Ah, what i mean is have the categories on the right hand side of the page as menu. When user clicks "about" the right hand menu would show links relating to the about tab for example. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > --------------010103090407080305080005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Simone Deponti wrote:
To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a navigationbar…

I'm all in favor for the introduction of a breadcrumb or a side menu like the original plone one, maybe starting from the 3rd level only. As I repeatedly stated, I'm concerned there might be navigational issues if we just rely on the tab-bar and the secondary navbar.
Ah, what i mean is have the categories on the right hand side of the page as menu. When user clicks "about" the right hand menu would show links relating to the about tab for example.

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--------------010103090407080305080005-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 14:29:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5193B00F4 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2638 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.182] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R3Lq3oJAiHMe for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8F33B012C for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so746452pye for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.17.12 with SMTP id u12mr6653340pyi.1171826972741; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.42.5 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:29:32 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <46324.130.225.184.24.1166398492.squirrel@correu.epsem.upc.edu> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:29:39 -0000 ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done. We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone correctly as of now). To view the source http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, to checkout it through SVN http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support . It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works). I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done.
We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone correctly as of now).
To view the source http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, to checkout it through SVN http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support.

It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works).

I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop.


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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689-- From luis.villa@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 15:22:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDE13B0008 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.575 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5471 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.204.238] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qV+4yU7+JPSH for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136DB3B01C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id e6so1378904qbe for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr2646311wad.1171830146495; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.174.16 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:26 -0500 From: "Luis Villa" To: "GNOME web" Subject: FYI In-Reply-To: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:22:31 -0000 Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. Luis From nisses.mail@home.se Sun Feb 18 17:33:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE763B0087 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.791, BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 1331 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.9.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AzdB5TcStuVC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE63B006A for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DAA5D380F2; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55137F41; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58337E47; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:00 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luis Villa Subject: Re: FYI References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:33:22 -0000 Luis Villa wrote: > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. > Totally. Anything else we can add while we're on it? - Andreas From jcspray@icculus.org Mon Feb 19 12:50:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE1B3B00A1 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_WV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 1190 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [67.106.77.212] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9NtN5APVm4fc for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from icculus.org (icculus.org [67.106.77.212]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1210A3B000C for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23857 invoked by uid 305); 19 Feb 2007 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from jcspray@icculus.org by gamehenge by uid 305 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. 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(jcspray@129.215.76.30) by icculus.org with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2007 12:49:16 -0500 Subject: viewcvs exception From: John Spray To: webmaster@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:50:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1171907426.9732.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:43:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:50:36 -0000 Hi, When trying to access http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomemm/gnome-vfsmm/trunk/libgnomevfs/src/ I get """ An Exception Has Occurred Python Traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 3732, in main request.run_viewvc() File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 387, in run_viewvc self.view_func(self) File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 1707, in view_directory data = common_template_data(request) File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 1042, in common_template_data data = { KeyError: """ The parent directories seemed to be working fine, only got this exception when I drilled down a bit. Regards, John From newren@gmail.com Mon Feb 19 15:35:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD33B007F for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7371 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.243] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F4VYF3iKa2CM for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90823B00A7 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so249263ana for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr3063365waf.1171917303256; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.209.4 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:34:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:34:58 -0700 From: "Elijah Newren" To: "Andreas Nilsson" Subject: Re: FYI In-Reply-To: <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> Cc: Luis Villa , GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:35:12 -0000 On 2/18/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Luis Villa wrote: > > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under > > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. > > > Totally. > Anything else we can add while we're on it? Could we link to http://live.gnome.org/Schedule from "Upcoming Events" text on that page? (That page is a bit more developer oriented, including reminding of freezes and such, so the text from that page probably doesn't belong on GNOME's front page. But a link would be nice) From nisses.mail@home.se Mon Feb 19 17:49:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703F3B000C for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 2880 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.8.184] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZwTZAWEsg13 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9273B0009 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 64E2138274; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC8D381C4; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0405F37E45; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DA2961.8090005@home.se> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:05 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elijah Newren Subject: Re: FYI References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Luis Villa , GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:49:13 -0000 Elijah Newren wrote: > On 2/18/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> Luis Villa wrote: >> > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under >> > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. >> > >> Totally. >> Anything else we can add while we're on it? > > Could we link to http://live.gnome.org/Schedule from "Upcoming Events" > text on that page? (That page is a bit more developer oriented, > including reminding of freezes and such, so the text from that page > probably doesn't belong on GNOME's front page. But a link would be > nice) Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! This is the text Thomas is going to put on the website when he gets back from Iceland. Please shout and correct me, those who find any spelling mistakes or just plain lies! :) Do it quick though. I want this baby up now! ---------------- GNOME @ FOSDEM 2007 GNOME Developers from all across Europe get together to meet old friends, discuss new technologies and other GNOME related stuff in the GNOME Developer Room (H1302) at the FOSDEM Conferencef. On Sunday morning, the devroom will be used as a joint GNOME and KDE devroom to get together hackers of both communities on subject of interest to both groups More information can be found in the GNOME wiki GUADEC 2007 July 15-21, 2007; Birmingham UK At the annual European GNOME Conference, GNOME hackers from all across the globe will gather and show off new cool technologies, party and discuss the future direction of the project. Keynote speakers include Ubuntu Community manager Jono Bacon, kernel hacker Robert Love, Alex Graveley of Tomboy and Gimmie fame and Nokia embedded rockstar Ari Jaaksi! Do you have anything interesting to show the rest of the GNOME Community? Send in your talk proposal before Monday 12th March. ---------------- From duffy@redhat.com Tue Feb 20 01:59:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777F13B0084; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 6103 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pM+cQYNLwjwa; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC703B0012; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1K6xR1Z001657; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1K6xRUD005698; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.10] (vpn-248-10.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.10]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1K6xQ0M027707; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Message-ID: <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:21 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:59:33 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > *** GNOME bar (black at the top) > - We can consider it a stable beta. > - Look&feel works, URLs work. > - Still open to improvements but it can be released as it is now. +1 > *** wgo primary bar (the tabs) > - Still missing tabs, I will add them. > - I think the eyes notice first the secondary bar and consider it more > relevant. Tabs should be bigger, perhaphs brighter. Bolder fonts? > Also, the fact that is aligned to the right helps its non-visibility > next to the secondary bar. > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees > clearly where she is. Do you need artwork for this? I can export some sliced artwork for this out of the SVG work I have. > - The tab of the current section could have no border to the secondary > nav bar, this way we have a single navigation bar, so to say. This way > we also avoid having to duplicate items in primary and secondary. Now > "Take the tour" appears twice. > - Clicking to a tab should bring the user automatically to the page. > If I click to the "Take the tour" tab I should get the content. Now > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ is an index. +1 > *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. > - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so > users know where they are. +1, I can export artwork slices for this too if needed. > - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning > and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of > the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of > the last tab in the primary nav bar. Do you want to try it with a little bevel on the far left and far right? > - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. I'm using 1024x768 and 4 items spill over into a second level of the secondary nav bar. I kind of think this is just way too much content. There are a couple of different approaches you could take: First one - each of the pages is a nice, small, digestable chunk of text. Could the tour be treated a little separately than other content in plone, eg., could it have its own special navbar (maybe a sidebar?), and be designed with more of a 'wizard' format (something you walk through step-by-step from beginning to end, so you'd click "next" and "back") rather than a normal site format (where you don't necessarily go through every page or go through everything in order)? Second one - Maybe there is a better way to organize the different parts of the tour? E.g., right now it looks like: - Take the tour - redundant. Looks like the introductory text that should be displayed with the first-level 'take the tour' tab. - Simply Powerful & Essential Tools - these two share a similar theme and I think could be combined - Windows/Mac - not sure what this is about, doesn't seem to have content - Multilingual - if Windows/Mac talks about compatibility across OSs, this could be related - compatibility across languages - Standarized - not sure, no content yet, but maybe combined with the other two above - Shipped by... - basically a distro list. - Deployments - example deployments im sure - Development & Innovation - seem like they could go together - Community - Free! I would suggest revising this to: - "What you need" - Simply Powerful & Essential Tools - "Speaks your Language" - Multilingual content, standardization? - "Ahead of the Curve" - development & innovation - "All about People" - community, deployments, shipped by (people involved in the community + demonstrating 'who' uses it, including distros and deployments') - "Free" Then you go from 12 nav items to 5. I don't think you really want anymore than 5-7 nav items on any one level. It's just too overwhelming cognitively to have more than that, especially considering the number of navigation bars already. ~m From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 20 16:04:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989C33B01E2 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7616 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.250] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sn1KjlQ04otC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279703B002C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so514336ana for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.1 with SMTP id s1mr3495557wae.1172005446801; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:04:06 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a1460472ed98c001 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:04:12 -0000 On 2/20/07, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: > > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees > > clearly where she is. > > Do you need artwork for this? Sure thing > > - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so > > users know where they are. > > +1, I can export artwork slices for this too if needed. Please > > - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning > > and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of > > the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of > > the last tab in the primary nav bar. > > Do you want to try it with a little bevel on the far left and far right? Whatever you find it's best, as far as it has edges. > First one - each of the pages is a nice, small, digestable chunk of > text. This is the kind of tour we want to have. > Could the tour be treated a little separately than other content > in plone, eg., could it have its own special navbar (maybe a sidebar?), That was the idea. Note that in the original plan the "Take the tour" section had other pages apart from the tour thing (screenshots and screencasts, or something like that. Since we are short of time and resources the tour has gone up one level, and this is why now the 10 pages are appearing in the secondary bar, which wasn part of the plan. > and be designed with more of a 'wizard' format (something you walk > through step-by-step from beginning to end, so you'd click "next" and > "back") rather than a normal site format (where you don't necessarily go > through every page or go through everything in order)? Yes. Having a sidebar with 1-2 words for each page + tiny icon could be neat and could help users going through the tour (you see how many pages, you know where you are, you know what topic comes next...). This could be compatible with next-back. This sidebar is not a long navigation bar but a short table of contents. > Second one - Maybe there is a better way to organize the different parts > of the tour? As it is planned now each page moves 1 concept can be solved with i.e. 2 paragraphs + 1 big icon coming from the GNOME collection + 1 background probably out there as well. If we merge concepts we have more complexity, more text, more ideas around, more confusion. A less comfortable tour. --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From davconvent@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 10:52:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D13B01D9 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5017 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.234] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04-DxZtDPrwU for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E33B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so206446wra for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.198.1 with SMTP id v1mr308137waf.1172159529754; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.95.11 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:52:09 +0100 From: "david convent" To: "gnome web" Subject: plone template customization bad practices to avoid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:52:18 -0000 ------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi to all people who work on the gnometheme product that adds the Gnome Theme to a Plone portal. While working on the refactoring of the second navbar, I noticed some practices that must be avoided when customizing original Plone templates. I take as examples the global_sections.pt and global_siteactions.pt templates: in global_sections: - in the customized template, a lot of space characters and end of lines have been removed. This is bad because for two reasons: First: it makes it difficult for contributors to identify the changes that have been applied to the customized file when comparing them in a text editor Second: it makes quite impossible to have something readable/usable if we perform a diff -u between the original file and its customization. The diff command is very important when we need to adapt the customized template to a Plone version that has a modified version of the original one= . I strongly recommend to keep the customized file layout as close as possible to the original one if we want a product that is future proof and contributor friendly. - The title of the section (
Sections
) has been removed in the customization. I goes against accessibility, for blind people and for people that use = a text-only browser. I recommend to keep those titles, and make them invisible for modern browsers by using the CSS 'display: none;' directive. Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been written while keeping accessibility rules in mind, it would be a shame to destroy that just because we are lazy enough not to write a few CSS lines. in global_siteactions.pt: The only change that I see between the original file and its customization is the modification of the (CSS) id of the macro: it's been changed from portal-sitactions to foobar. the original markup in Plone was studied to be designer friendly, with semantic ids and classes. I wonder what motivated such change to a non semantic markup. isn't it possible to keep the original markup and use it in the stylesheets? I know it's a word play about footer bar (foo=85bar) but this doesn't look useful at all and not future proof at all (do we really want to take care o= f that template when it will change in a future Plone version, only because a CSS id was changed for fun?). Hope to have been of constructive criticism, David ------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi to all people who work on the gnometheme product that adds the Gnome The= me to a Plone portal.

While working on the refactoring of the second= navbar, I noticed some practices that must be avoided when customizing ori= ginal Plone templates.

I take as examples the global_sections.pt and global_siteactions.pt= templates:

in global_sections:

- in the customized template,= a lot of space characters and end of lines have been removed.
 &nb= sp;  This is bad because for two reasons:
    First: it makes it difficult for contributors to ide= ntify the changes that have been applied to the customized file when compar= ing them in a text editor
    Second: it makes quite impo= ssible to have something readable/usable if we perform a diff -u between th= e original file and its customization.
    The diff command is very important when we need to a= dapt the customized template to a Plone version that has a modified version= of the original one.
    I strongly recommend to keep th= e customized file layout as close as possible to the original one if we wan= t a product that is future proof and contributor friendly.

- The title of the section (<h5>Sections</h5>) has been= removed in the customization.
    I goes against accessi= bility, for blind people and for people that use a text-only browser.
&n= bsp;   I recommend to keep those titles, and make them invisible = for modern browsers by using the CSS 'display: none;' directive.
    Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it'= s been written while keeping accessibility rules in mind, it would be a sha= me to destroy that just because we are lazy enough not to write a few CSS l= ines.


in global_siteactions.pt:

The only change that I see between= the original file and its customization is the modification of the (CSS) i= d of the macro: it's been changed from portal-sitactions to foobar.
the original markup in Plone was studied to be designer friendly, with = semantic ids and classes.
I wonder what motivated such change to a non s= emantic markup. isn't it possible to keep the original markup and use i= t in the stylesheets?
I know it's a word play about footer bar (foo=85bar) but this doesn= 't look useful at all and not future proof at all (do we really want to= take care of that template when it will change in a future Plone version, = only because a CSS id was changed for fun?).


Hope to have been of constructive criticism,
David
------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723-- From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 13:57:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C73B0081 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:57:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6832 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.171] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0r1MDVF5qYZd for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BC53B007B for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so177161ugb for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr450376wae.1172170611589; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:56:51 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "david convent" Subject: Re: plone template customization bad practices to avoid In-Reply-To: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dff761382ebe1140 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:57:04 -0000 Thanks for these comments. I'm with you. Now everything is quite flexible and it's understandable to find quick solutions in order to get i.e. quick mockups to move forwards. However, since we are progressinbg so slowly at least the advantage we should take from this is to develop something to last and provide a flexible, easy to manage evolution. On 2/22/07, david convent wrote: > Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been written > while keeping accessibility rules in mind, Same with GNOME in the desktop world. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 15:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8253B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6834 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.175] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wvUQfjm8dPRE for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB62B3B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so195335ugb for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.76.1 with SMTP id d1mr480437wal.1172175163675; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221212m460f972dqd5a40c537ea7bdb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:12:43 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4d6bf01630b0b247 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:12:55 -0000 What is stopping us from signing off a collection of font families and sized to be used in wgo? http://www.gnome.org/ - http://yahoo.com - http://cnn.com/ - http://www.apple.com/ Can we take these sites as a reference? I think they are showing a good collection of font sizes. On 2/4/07, Joachim wrote: > > > On 2/4/07, Quim Gil wrote: > > (snipping lots of stuff I agree with) > > > - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > > small, do you agree? > > Yes, it's too small. > There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive > debate like the XHTML. > Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, > web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the > default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading. > However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because > few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want > to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%. > So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to > reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read. > > I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's > slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure > why that is. > -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 15:57:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90B3B00D0 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7190 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.90.180] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N-y67SBK4lnK for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EF13B00BC for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c29so131932ika for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.72.1 with SMTP id u1mr492724waa.1172177839107; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221257m2871eafay8769d378da1964dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:57:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Fwd: Writers (and copypasters) for the wgo revamp In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702221255m364049fduc965bb1e71906f6b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702221255m364049fduc965bb1e71906f6b@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a35bef3328b31942 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:57:25 -0000 It's not a secret that we need urgent help to achieve the wgo revamp goals by the GNOME 2.18 release. Now and then we get help offers from web designers or coders. The sad truth is though, that what we desperately need is people able to write plain English, and even go to simpler tasks like doing appropriate copy&paste work from the current www.gnome.org. We are in SALE and I'm happy providing the simplest interface for collaboration: * Reply (to me better than the whole list) telling which page from the new wgo structure you want to write. * No preference? I will choose one page for you. A link to your texts will help. * You will be able to send the text by email, no list/wiki/CMS hassle. * After that, the Glory. If you want more, there will be more. We have about 40 pages and 2 weeks. Ali Baba, do the maths. (Also posted at http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/338 ) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From davconvent@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 18:45:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1503B00DA for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2036 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.187] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pkibVdXKsGWd for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379A3B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so681622nfc for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.223.11 with SMTP id v11mr4690014nfg.1172187943452; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27sm7395508nfa.2007.02.22.15.45.41; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:42 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> References: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <49CBBA57-CF69-46E8-B44B-5E66677C40BB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: plone template customization bad practices to avoid Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:45:29 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:45:50 -0000 Oh, I forgot to mention that I volunteer to fix the templates where I see fit. Sorry for the foobar word play removal from the html layout, but it would have added one file we'd have to take care of in the future, this is unnecessary. Let's make the work of the Gnome Theme future maintainers as easy as possible. This is done with friendliness, no offense should be taken here. David On 22 Feb 2007, at 19:56, Quim Gil wrote: > Thanks for these comments. I'm with you. Now everything is quite > flexible and it's understandable to find quick solutions in order to > get i.e. quick mockups to move forwards. However, since we are > progressinbg so slowly at least the advantage we should take from this > is to develop something to last and provide a flexible, easy to manage > evolution. > > On 2/22/07, david convent wrote: > >> Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been >> written >> while keeping accessibility rules in mind, > > Same with GNOME in the desktop world. > > -- > Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From thilopfennig@foresightlinux.org Thu Feb 22 20:40:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650453B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.247 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5027 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.225] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWzEgh7pNDIW for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A795A3B0011 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so351283wra for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.54.1 with SMTP id g1mr612536wak.1172194793738; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.4 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:39:53 +0100 From: "Thilo Pfennig" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org Subject: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:40:00 -0000 ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I have started to work out some plan for the projects ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was not started yet. I like to know how we will distinguish this. I would like to know what the status of the Plone Software Center is and how the projects page shuld relate t the product page (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/GnomeProducts). my guess is this the Plone guys are working on the module? I understand the structure like this: * Products (these are core GNOME applications, free software which are hosted all over the world) * Projects (so this can not be the same - I think this should rather be ONLY the applications that are hosted on WGO. If not I really see not much sense in two pages) I also could imagine that one links other projects on this. As there are the different teams. But this could be mixed but with "Get involved" What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined project pages (software or not). What I am missing often are links to standard pages that should be on the same spot (that would be mailing lists, direct link to bugzilla, maybe news, screenshot,...). Not sure if these project pages have already been thought about or anybody works on this. If not maybe somebody would like to try to make a mockup based on what we have here http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/ http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ and the new design (w header)? I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really does not help so much for our pages. I think GNOME itself is our main product/project - and everything else is a sub project - these are more or less far away from the GNOME core. What we should not do is to link away from GNOME.org in 1st or 2nd level of wgo. So rather have some standard pages for externaly hosted projects like Abiword and then link from these pages. I think the project pages itself do not need to be moved before GNOME 2.18 Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the new CMS. We can move them step by step with rewrites, so that all old projects will still be visible (thats how I would do it, but thats on the sysadmin team to decide) Any thoughts, comments, suggestions? regards, Thilo BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is coming people tend to have less time, so maybe web restructuring would be better at half-time of a release. I am not a developer - thats just a guess. Personally I dont like different projects to have the same deadline. -- Thilo Pfennig http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,
I have started to work out some plan for the projects (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was not started yet. I like to know how we will distinguish this. I would like to  know what the status  of the  Plone Software Center is and how the projects page shuld relate t the product page ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/GnomeProducts). my guess is this the Plone guys are working on the module?

I understand the structure like this:

 * Products (these are core GNOME applications, free software which are hosted all over the world)
 * Projects (so this can not be the same - I think this should rather be ONLY the applications that are hosted on WGO. If not I really see not much sense in two pages)

I also could imagine that one links other projects on this. As there are the different teams. But this could be mixed but with "Get involved"

What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined project pages (software or not). What I am missing often are links to standard pages that should be on the same spot (that would be mailing lists, direct link to bugzilla, maybe news, screenshot,...).  Not sure if these  project pages have already been thought about or anybody works on this. If not maybe somebody would like to try to make a mockup based on what we have here http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/ http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ and the new design (w header)?

I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really does not help so much for our pages. I think GNOME itself is our main product/project - and everything else is a sub project - these are more or less far away from the GNOME core. What we should not do is to link away from GNOME.org in 1st or 2nd level of wgo. So rather have some standard pages for externaly hosted projects like Abiword and then link from these pages. I think the project pages itself do not need to be moved before GNOME 2.18

Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the new CMS. We can move them step by step with rewrites, so that all old projects will still be visible (thats how I would do it, but thats on the sysadmin team to decide)

Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

regards,

Thilo


BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is coming people tend to have less time, so maybe web restructuring would be better at half-time of a release. I am not a developer - thats just a guess. Personally I dont like different projects to have the same deadline.

--
Thilo Pfennig
http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Fri Feb 23 06:27:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698273B0097 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 11588 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9AYVtAgiZ27n for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B773B008D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1NBRHJV032740; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:18 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2267FAC6; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w8z6IaTFHc-t; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.242] (agulla.upc.es [147.83.101.211]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD5FA93; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DECF95.7050903@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:17 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Teague Subject: Re: Safari References: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> In-Reply-To: <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:27:31 -0000 En/na Kevin Teague ha escrit: > The current gnome #page Selector has this declaration: > > overflow: hidden; > > Safari seems to interpret the default width for this div as being > very small :( > > There are two fixes that I've just tested that could work: > > 1. Remove the overflow property from the #page Selector. > > 2. Add a width property to the #page Selector, this works on Safari > and Firefox on Mac for me: > > width: 100%; > I added this on #page css ( overflow: hidden is for IE6 ) Can you try ? on Konqueror it was working before ( so it's only safari issue ) Ramon From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Fri Feb 23 06:50:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFF43B0119 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 376 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.50] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qR8laTtznGM7 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dash.upc.es (dash.upc.es [147.83.2.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C9D3B00BF for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by dash.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1NBo8bA012965; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D0FD5F; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WuObcni-EFl9; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.242] (agulla.upc.es [147.83.101.211]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6290FD5D; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <46324.130.225.184.24.1166398492.squirrel@correu.epsem.upc.edu> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (dash.upc.es [147.83.2.50]); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:50:16 -0000 PloneSoftwareCenter installed on wgo, I need to tune it ( categories , ... ) and Simone needs to some some bug issues. Ramon En/na Simone Deponti ha escrit: > Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on > svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done. > We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad > as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description > probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone > correctly as of now). > To view the source > http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, > to checkout it through SVN > http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support. > > It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, > so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also > had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through > adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on > how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works). > > I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked > perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop. > > > -- > Simone Deponti > ------------------------------------------- > - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? > - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From shywolf9982@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 07:17:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946373B000D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.804 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.804 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2751 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZOejuu6PMf6E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DCE3B00BF for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so259513pye for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr3934397pyj.1172233019516; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:16:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:16:59 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: PloneSoftwareCenter roadmap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:17:35 -0000 ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like to invent words of my own). Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that actually are seen in PSC trunk. Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I say, quite loud. That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk and not in doap-branch. Actually the doap_feed has no multilingual implementation, it means it doesn't actually search for the canonical translation, use that as object and export the attributes with the xml:lang attribute. For what concerns the attribute, I'll give you the DOAP vocabulary and the status of each export, plus my notes name (implemented) shortname (implemented) homepage* (implemented) old-homepage* (skipped, we have no such attribute in PSC and it didn't seem the case to me to go back in Zope's undo to get it if existed, not at this point anyway) created (skipped too, I have a creation date, but doesn't really says me when the project was created (just the PSC entry) and PSC doesn't actually store the date creation project) description (implemented with HTML strip) shortdesc (implemented) category (implemented, but I actually return the category as the $portal_url/by-category/$category. DOAP isn't much clear on what the category really is) wiki (okay, I supposed here the doap drafter meant "generical documentation url") bug-database (implemented) screenshots (sorta implemented. DOAP wants me to give a screenshot folder, but PSC just allows you to put in ONE screenshot and marking it as that, so i return that) mailing-list (implemented) programming-language (I was going to use the comaptibility field that gives us the compatible Plone versions, but I deleted this. Ofcourse PSc supposes everything is done in Python ;)) os (implemented, currently in refactoring, but I have to dig down to downloadable file to get that information, then assemble the info. First brain damage of DOAP imho, cause we lose info about what versions support which os, eg 1.0 might support every os while 1.99beta only Linux) license (implemented, currently in refactoring, same considerations of os) download-page (not implemented) download-mirror (not implemented) repository (implemented) release (not implemented) maintainer (not implemented) developer (not implemented) documenter (not implemented) translator (not implemented) helper (not implemented) I don't think it will take much and that by the start of next week I can have all the remaining attributes in the feed. Then we can merge it back into trunk and proceed fixing visual bugs and give it a gnome skin. Regards -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all

A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like to invent words of my own).

Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that actually are seen in PSC trunk.
Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I say, quite loud.
That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk and not in doap-branch.

Actually the doap_feed has no multilingual implementation, it means it doesn't actually search for the canonical translation, use that as object and export the attributes with the xml:lang attribute.

For what concerns the attribute, I'll give you the DOAP vocabulary and the status of each export, plus my notes

name (implemented)
shortname (implemented)
homepage* (implemented)
old-homepage* (skipped, we have no such attribute in PSC and it didn't seem the case to me to go back in Zope's undo to get it if existed, not at this point anyway)
created (skipped too, I have a creation date, but doesn't really says me when the project was created (just the PSC entry) and PSC doesn't actually store the date creation project)
description (implemented with HTML strip)
shortdesc (implemented)
category (implemented, but I actually return the category as the $portal_url/by-category/$category. DOAP isn't much clear on what the category really is)
wiki (okay, I supposed here the doap drafter meant "generical documentation url")
bug-database (implemented)
screenshots (sorta implemented. DOAP wants me to give a screenshot folder, but PSC just allows you to put in ONE screenshot and marking it as that, so i return that)
mailing-list (implemented)
programming-language (I was going to use the comaptibility field that gives us the compatible Plone versions, but I deleted this. Ofcourse PSc supposes everything is done in Python ;))
os (implemented, currently in refactoring, but I have to dig down to downloadable file to get that information, then assemble the info. First brain damage of DOAP imho, cause we lose info about what versions support which os, eg 1.0 might support every os while 1.99beta only Linux)
license (implemented, currently in refactoring, same considerations of os)
download-page (not implemented)
download-mirror (not implemented)
repository (implemented)
release (not implemented)
maintainer (not implemented)
developer (not implemented)
documenter (not implemented)
translator (not implemented)
helper (not implemented)

I don't think it will take much and that by the start of next week I can have all the remaining attributes in the feed. Then we can merge it back into trunk and proceed fixing visual bugs and give it a gnome skin.

Regards

--
Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Fri Feb 23 14:01:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1153B0247 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 503 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BBNGlK5KP0Bu for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A893B0157 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HKff0-0004hf-KU for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter roadmap Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:00:17 +0000 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:01:21 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello all > > A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like > to invent words of my own). > > Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed > template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being > based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that > actually are seen in PSC trunk. > Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still > issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I > say, quite loud. > That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken > product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be > fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk > and not in doap-branch. You may want to hook up with George Lee who's working on PSC trunk and see if you can pool resources. Martin From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 14:16:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C93D3B0165 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 262 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.235] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7PxtZCayUP+a for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6C3B01D3 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so705039wri for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr1187658waf.1172258202572; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:16:42 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Thilo Pfennig" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 35f18105933fc8d1 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:16:53 -0000 Hi, On 2/23/07, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Hi, > I have started to work out some plan for the projects > (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was > not started yet. Cool. Take in account though all we discussed last year, which was a lot. The latest status was this diagram: http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/286 VERY IMPORTANT: in your email there is an apparent confusion between GNOME Products and Projects. They are different things, completely. - Products: cute and brief pages summarizing the greatness and features of SOFTWARE. A wgo section edited by marketing team with the collaboration of the developers behind each component/application (hopefully with some DOAP magic to optimize maintenance). Translated into wgo languages. - Projects: subsites where PEOPLE publish, document, collaborate and develop software products. under wgo/projects in the current structure, under projects.gnome.org during the 2.19 release cycle unless Jeff throw us an H-Bomb or we get stuck again. Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else than offer support (if they want it). There is a projects index to be improved. Translations are responsibility of each project (most are in English only) and we don't set any policy about which CMS to use etc. We can help to those willing to join the Plone platform, but we won push anybody. We have also - Teams: your are mixing them also in your email. GNOME teams are Accessibility, Marketing, Usability, Release, Documentation... Something completely different to Projects and to Products. > What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined > project pages (software or not). Now I not sure if you are talking about the planned GNOME Products (which will be more streamlined) or project subsites (where there is no common policy, but offering a checklist with recommendations would help them). > I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really > does not help so much for our pages. The gnomefiles feeds will go in the GNOME Products page, this is planned and decided. > Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion > would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the > new CMS. Yes to projects.g.o subdomain, No to move projects websites to the new CMS, unless a project comes by their own initiative looking for CMS help. > BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases > would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is > coming people tend to have less time, If we would have followed the schedule now all the tough wirk would be done and we wiould be doing just betatest and related fixes. After 1,5 years following discussions and works about the wgo revamp I remember seeing just very few component maintainers, core developers. Also, the schedule proposed is about last deadlines, if someone wants to start earlier and finish earlier nobody is going to stop her. By now the problem is not about schedules, but about resources. At least this is how I see it. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 15:53:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290803B0165 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6858 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.173] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hNvPKt6E-F33 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2EF3B0092 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so432898ugb for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr1218614waj.1172263977008; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702231252i78dca49dx692976a65ac2f047@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:52:56 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7dda1b0b4311358 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:53:04 -0000 T24gMi8xOC8wNywgUXVpbSBHaWwgPHFnaWxAZ25vbWUub3JnPiB3cm90ZToKPiAtIENsaWNraW5n IHRvIGEgdGFiIHNob3VsZCBicmluZyB0aGUgdXNlciBhdXRvbWF0aWNhbGx5IHRvIHRoZSBwYWdl Lgo+IElmIEkgY2xpY2sgdG8gdGhlICJUYWtlIHRoZSB0b3VyIiB0YWIgSSBzaG91bGQgZ2V0IHRo ZSBjb250ZW50LiBOb3cKPiBodHRwOi8vZ25vbWUuamFyZGlncmVjLmV1L2VuL3Rha2UtdGhlLXRv dXIvIGlzIGFuIGluZGV4LgoKU29sdmVkOiBodHRwOi8vZ25vbWUuamFyZGlncmVjLmV1L2VuL3Rh a2UtdGhlLXRvdXIKCk5ldyBlZGl0b3JzIGxpa2UgbWU6IHRoaXMgaXMgZG9uZSBjbGlja2luZyB0 aGUgIkRpc3BsYXkiIHRhYiBpbiB0aGUKZWRpdCBvcHRpb25zIG9mIHRoZSBwYWdlLCBhbmQgdGhl biAiQ2hhbmdlIGNvbnRlbnQgaXRlbSBhcyBkZWZhdWx0CnZpZXcuLi4iCgpCeSBkb2luZyB0aGlz IHRoZSAiVGFrZSB0aGUgdG91ciIgaXRlbSBpbiB0aGUgc2Vjb25kYXJ5IG5hdiBiYXIKZGlzYXBw ZWFycyBhdXRvbWF0aWNhbGx5LiBDb29sLgoKT25lIHF1ZXN0aW9uOiBkbyB5b3UgbGlrZSB0aGUg IkhvbWUiIHRhYiBpbiB0aGUgd2dvIHByaW1hcnkgbmF2IGJhcj8KTWF5YmUgaXS2IGJlY2F1c2Ug SSdtIHNvIG5pbmV0aWVzIGJ1dCBJIHRlbmQgdG8gYXNzdW1lIHRoYXQgY2xpY2tpbmcKdGhlIGJp ZyBsb2dvIGluIHRoZSBoZWFkZXIgd2lsbCBicmluZyBtZSB0byB0aGUgaG9tZSBpbiBhbnkKd2Vi c2l0ZS4uLi4gV2UgaGF2ZSBhbHJlYWR5ICJIb21lIiBpbiB0aGUgdG9wIEdOT01FIGJhciwgbG9v a3Mga2luZGEKd2VpcmQgc2hvd2luZyB0d2ljZSB0aGlzIHdvcmQuCgotLSAKUXVpbSBHaWwgLy8v IGh0dHA6Ly9kZXNkZWFtZXJpY2Fjb25hbW9yLm9yZwo= From thilopfennig@foresightlinux.org Fri Feb 23 19:47:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0FE3B0073 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.224 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 8373 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.247] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w2mPPEeAPSoe for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA193B0008 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so561816ana for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr1304032waf.1172278027056; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.17 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:47:07 +0100 From: "Thilo Pfennig" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022" References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:47:16 -0000 ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Quim, if you search for "epiphany" in google you get : http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. Development is happening on LGO rather.What you are talking about sounds more like http://developer.gnome.org/ to me which should be moved to LGO (see http://live.gnome.org/Home)? I don't think i did mix anything up - the question if we really want to have two pages for every application - so to keep this thread simple: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany) http://www.gnome.org/products/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany) and not to forget: http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany Question is: Do we want something like sourceforge.net on WGO - and if yes which site will that be? Did you mean this is Projects page? Sourceforge always has many elements. Every project has some elements like a summary (maybe this is what projects should be?), Web site (products?) and more. So maybe you are right and I am confused - but all project pages I know are very marekting orientated. You say: Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else > than offer > support (if they want it). ... We can help to those willing to join the > Plone platform, but we won push > anybody. I would like to remind that we said the following: "All the *.gnome.org subsites MUST have the same top navigation bar. This common navigation bar link subsites." (source: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation ) Anyway. Please tell me what you expect the projects page to be. Should I concentrate to just move the content of the page to the CMS? Then this is a work that could be done in one day. Especially if we have a WYSWIG editor. Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Quim,

if you search for "epiphany" in google you  get :
http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/

This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. Development is happening on LGO rather.What you are talking about sounds more like http://developer.gnome.org/ to me which should be moved to LGO (see http://live.gnome.org/Home)?

I don't think i did mix anything up - the question if we really want to have two pages for every application - so to keep this thread simple:

http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany)
http://www.gnome.org/products/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany)

and not to forget:
http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany


Question is: Do we want something like sourceforge.net on WGO - and if yes which site will that be? Did you mean this is Projects page? Sourceforge always has many elements. Every project has some elements like a summary (maybe this is what projects should be?), Web site (products?) and more.

So maybe you are right and I am confused - but all project pages I know are very marekting orientated.

You say:

Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else than offer
support (if they want it). ... We can help to those willing to join the Plone platform, but we won push
anybody.

I would like to remind that we said the following:
"All the *.gnome.org subsites MUST have the same top navigation bar. This common navigation bar link subsites." (source: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation )



Anyway. Please tell me what you expect the projects page to be. Should I concentrate to just move the content of the page to the CMS? Then this is a work that could be done in one day. Especially if we have a WYSWIG editor.


Regards,

Thilo
--
Thilo Pfennig
http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022-- From c.schwarm@gmx.net Sat Feb 24 03:01:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C8C3B006F for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 739 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q34zO0X7BGXb for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6CFC3B0008 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Feb 2007 08:01:53 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/3oJhyRH73qFpXzbf673dazXfnZJpCL6bs3v1i3N PEoQ== Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:04:17 +0100 From: Claus Schwarm To: "Thilo Pfennig" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products Message-Id: <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:50 -0500 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:02:00 -0000 Hi, just a remark: On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:47:07 +0100 "Thilo Pfennig" wrote: > Hi Quim, > > if you search for "epiphany" in google you get : > http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ > > This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. This is because you probably didn't click any link. Just test the most important one: "Download". This leads to LGO. It looks like a developer gone mad, not like something that is supposed to be usable. Or click the "simple" link at the start. It leads to: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/documentation/manifesto.html And this page looks differently to the main page. If you then click on "News", you get yet another design! The forth one I believe. And should I start about Dia's homepage? http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ I've recently seen an independent free software for Windows promotion page -- Dia was the number one application people searched for. If it would have lead to the above page, I doubt it could transfer the attention into downloads. However, there's a seperate page for Dia for Windows: http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/index.php Maybe the second page has better chances but I doubt that, too. Unfortunately, Windows users are unlikely to click the link on the second page to get to the first page to _learn_ that such amazing applications are available under Linux as well. In contrast, look at some open source applications for Windows: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/index.htm http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/index.php When I look at these pages I really wonder why anybody (except developers and very "caring" people) should switch away from Windows. A more complete collection is available here: http://www.opensourcewindows.org/ However, you're right to wonder how introducting confusing stuff such as "Products" pages could make it better. The only suggestion that made sense back then was Jeff's to present stuff like "GNOME for mobile devises", "GNOME for Windows", etc. But it's probably sufficient to have a single page for that. Regards, Claus From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:23:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C323B00CD for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 281 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.238] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ub5Nz9p94Z6x for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA983B00E3 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so862747wri for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr726769wae.1172326974916; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702240622yb3ec88p58dd584ea4c672e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:22:54 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Claus Schwarm" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f33a89ab6986a28d Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:23:01 -0000 Gentlemen, as you probably know we have a release these days. The GNOME Product pages were discussed, agreed and planned months ago. We are implementing them now. The GNOME Projects goal was dropped from 2.18 because nobody pushed it when it was time to push it. Excuse if few weeks before the 218 release I don get into conceptual debates. There will be time for this again as soon as the revamped wgo is released and we face the 2.19 process. On 2/24/07, Claus Schwarm wrote: > However, you're right to wonder how introducting confusing stuff such > as "Products" pages could make it better. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From guydjohnston@googlemail.com Fri Feb 23 21:31:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517DA3B00A2 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74AgN8u6RfkX for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B73B0008 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so473095ugb for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr3068799ugi.1172284295339; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [80.6.124.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 53sm2093239ugd.2007.02.23.18.31.18; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:30:47 +0000 From: Guy Johnston User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Untz Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> In-Reply-To: <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:07 -0500 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:31:42 -0000 Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi Guy, > > Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought the >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the system, >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is used >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. > > We already agreed on this a few months ago: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html > > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. > > Thanks, > > Vincent > Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a problem. Thanks, Guy From Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM Thu Feb 22 04:30:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2F3B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.109 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_Unix=-1, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 9 (NAT!), (distance 18, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [192.18.1.36] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFakKyhZMTAj for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com [192.18.1.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937C13B017F for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1-emea-09.sun.com ([192.18.2.119]) by gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l1M9UKmd015188 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:20 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-emea-09.sun.com by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JDU00A01Y7KD100@d1-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM) for webmaster@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t2 ([84.153.186.98]) by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JDU0035XYEBUP14@d1-emea-09.sun.com>; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:42:20 +0100 From: Hartmut Kaiser Subject: Sun sponsoring Java/Gnome developer tutorial: How to use Java-Gnome to develop Java based GNOME applications in OpenSolaris Sender: Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM To: Hartmut Kaiser Message-id: <1172137340.8771.57.camel@t2.domain> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:56 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:29 -0000 Hi all, I would like to draw your attention to the following tutorial: "How to use Java-Gnome to develop Java based GNOME applications in OpenSolaris" http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/osdevcon2007/abstracts.html#1_1_1 by John Rice (John Rice is a staff engineer in Sun) which will be held in Berlin, next week, Tuesday, February 27th 2007 10:00-18:00, during the OpenSolaris Developer Conference: www.osdevcon.org Sun Germany was given the possibility to sponsor a small number of seats due to the fact that this tutorial is given by a Sun employee. So I volunteered to inform the Java/Netbeans/Gnome Community. The focus of the conference is development of the OpenSolaris Platform (rather than development of applications on top of the platform), so Java/Netbeans/Gnome-Applications is a little bit off-topic to this audience and approved to provide a complementary topic at the edge of the main topic. I thought that you would be interested. If you know any Java/Netbeans(/OpenSolaris) Developer Community members who might be, please forward this note. Respondents are treated first come, first served to avoid additional hassle. Deadline for application has to be tomorrow, Friday, 15.00 CET. After that, I am going to inform the people who applied about the sponsorings. Please note that a Laptop is going to be necessary. OpenSolaris Developer Release already installed is best (goto: , but I was told there is a plan for providing bootable USB sticks. More on this tomorrow. Sorry for the rather short notice, hope to see you in Berlin, Hartmut Kaiser. PS: if you are interested in (downloading) Solaris Express Developer Edition, goto: http://developers.sun.com/downloads/ then Solaris, then Solaris Express Developer Edition -- ------------------------------------------------- Hartmut Kaiser Product Marketing Manager Software Sun Microsystems GmbH Sonnenallee 1 D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Phone: (+49)-89 46008 2847 Mobile: (+49)-172 8136729 mailto: hartmut.kaiser@sun.com http://www.sun.de ------------------------------------------------- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:40:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2973B0210 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2777 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.182] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gahCD0cLrRFd for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8983B01E9 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so452660pye for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.126.7 with SMTP id d7mr6864431pyn.1172328013328; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:40:13 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Tango icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:40:18 -0000 ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the list. About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango (http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the Tango ones. If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this. Have a good day -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the list.

About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the Tango ones.

If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this.

Have a good day

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Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 21:20:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988D33B0088 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5745 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.237] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e9MGv378+A5q for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD523B00D6 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so953244nzf for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.58.8 with SMTP id l8mr8146125pyk.1172370008630; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:20:08 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_28748_18090297.1172370008537" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:20:15 -0000 ------=_Part_28748_18090297.1172370008537 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537" ------=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). There are also a few issues related to the fact that I'm not sure if I am completely adhering to the DOAP specs regarding a couple attributes, but we are short on time and I think we can fix those laters, being "non-fatal" issues. Once doap-branch is in trunk, we'll have to quickly fix bugs on views and templates, write doap view tests (they are important because without them maintaining doap would be a mess, but I guess it's not a big deal if the first wgo PSC doesn't have them in, I mean, I guess we can safely put them after the view / template bugfixing tasks). So, to sum up, my proposal is: * Merge doap in trunk * Fix view bugs * Write doap tests If you have any questions, doubts or ideas I'd be glad to hear them. I will also attach an example of export that I got from my test content, just to give anyone the idea of what attributes get actually exported and what are not. I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file. It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following: def getPlatformVocab(self): """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from the top-level projects container. """ return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk once we're merged. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). There are also a few issues related to the fact that I'm not sure if I am completely adhering to the DOAP specs regarding a couple attributes, but we are short on time and I think we can fix those laters, being "non-fatal" issues.

Once doap-branch is in trunk, we'll have to quickly fix bugs on views and templates, write doap view tests (they are important because without them maintaining doap would be a mess, but I guess it's not a big deal if the first wgo PSC doesn't have them in, I mean, I guess we can safely put them after the view / template bugfixing tasks).

So, to sum up, my proposal is:
* Merge doap in trunk
* Fix view bugs
* Write doap tests

If you have any questions, doubts or ideas I'd be glad to hear them.
I will also attach an example of export that I got from my test content, just to give anyone the idea of what attributes get actually exported and what are not.
I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file.
It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following:

def getPlatformVocab(self):
        """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from
        the top-level projects container.
        """
        return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()])

But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk once we're merged.

Greetings

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Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. 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Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:08:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:07:29 +0000 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:08:35 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I > think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is it a problem? > I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve > that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the > default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat > selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file. > It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method > in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following: > > def getPlatformVocab(self): > """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from > the top-level projects container. > """ > return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for > item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) > > But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't > implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk > once we're merged. You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? I don't quite understand what the problem is, though. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 07:38:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019943B008E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2799 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RCKU-TmyKeMA for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B273D3B006D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so594728pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.121.9 with SMTP id y9mr9244075pym.1172407108836; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:38:28 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:38:35 -0000 ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is > it a problem? It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much. You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we > upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very > common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP spec says that you should put the attribute only when the product/project is OS specific. In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported from them and I'm basically done. The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something like All platforms. This isn't a great example of "adhering to the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all. Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions: 1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration. 2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the vocabulary method). 3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it. I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org, although someone else might if in his setup he changed "All platforms" to something else. Hope I have explained myself well. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello,

I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is
it a problem?

It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much.

You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we
upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very
common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid?

Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP spec says  that you should put the <os> attribute only when the product/project is OS specific.
In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported from them and I'm basically done.
The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something like <os>All platforms</os>. This isn't a great example of "adhering to the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all.
Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions:
1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration.

2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the vocabulary method).

3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it.

I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org, although someone else might if in his setup he changed "All platforms" to something else.

Hope I have explained myself well.

Greetings
--
Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758-- From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 08:07:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6601F3B007F for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5111 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.237] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q2ueFWTAxy7L for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB77B3B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1048727wxc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr307438wab.1172408816211; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702250506o4f280c9cid1d962f612582249@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:06:56 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Simone Deponti" Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0e5bc0e01c97bc0f Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:07:02 -0000 Thanks Simone for your work under time pressure. I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until your version is installed? I don't mind starting creating pages in the current version even if it lacks DOAP wunder and some tests, if we can move to a next version without much hassle when it's ready. Instead, making writers wait until we have the ideal version is much more risky from our perspective. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 08:30:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628803B0009 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2800 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oljg8B6MLzZO for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204253B000C for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so600929pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.43.10 with SMTP id v10mr9338745pyj.1172410209611; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250530w50dd3fb6u282976063c29e199@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:30:09 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250529i6629cc2k8975c318fc4b2cfd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702250506o4f280c9cid1d962f612582249@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250529i6629cc2k8975c318fc4b2cfd@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:30:15 -0000 ------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in > the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until > your version is installed? Well, as you probably saw, we will provide a no-migration-needed solution if possible and if not we will write migration scripts. The version actually installed on gnome.jardigrec.eu is quite broken though, since I haven't ported in my version all the changes made in trunk to solve bugs (my bad). I'll do that ASAP. Anyway, I think we should try to upload PSC trunk instead of my version ASAP, because it simply works, and have writers work on that, since switching to DOAP isn't a content destructive change (means, the content doesn't change). We can do that safely (I mean, adding DOAP) just before releasing. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in
the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until
your version is installed?

Well, as you probably saw, we will provide a no-migration-needed solution if possible and if not we will write migration scripts. The version actually installed on gnome.jardigrec.eu is quite broken though, since I haven't ported in my version all the changes made in trunk to solve bugs (my bad).
I'll do that ASAP.

Anyway, I think we should try to upload PSC trunk instead of my version ASAP, because it simply works, and have writers work on that, since switching to DOAP isn't a content destructive change (means, the content doesn't change). We can do that safely (I mean, adding DOAP) just before releasing.

Greetings

--
Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 08:35:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E0E3B0118 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 929 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j+JFlNmfitum for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72A3B0091 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLJWo-0001f5-3Q for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:12 +0000 Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:35:39 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello, > > I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is > it a problem? > > > It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take > me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before > merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much. If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. > You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we > upgrade PSC on plone.org , will eveyone who had > "All platforms" (very > common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? > > > Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP > spec says that you should put the attribute only when the > product/project is OS specific. > In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project > but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big > deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and > PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported > from them and I'm basically done. > The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something > like All platforms. This isn't a great example of "adhering to > the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all. > Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions: > 1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't > work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All > operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration. > > 2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value > and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply > enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user > control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label > and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this > solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have > yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, > though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the > vocabulary method). > > 3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it. > > I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All > platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org > , although someone else might if in his setup he > changed "All platforms" to something else. > > Hope I have explained myself well. or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or migration support. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 10:03:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64E13B0088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2801 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ViFD-2yuDLK8 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0423B000C for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so611957pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.121.2 with SMTP id y2mr9508380pym.1172415784319; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:03:04 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Martin Aspeli" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:03:18 -0000 ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) > > If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't > see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to start inserting content. We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk. or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but > that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes > sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or > migration support. That could be a great feature for kde.org, but we're working for gnome.orghere :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on GNOME usability, to understand the joke). Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined value can fit well enough. Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms also means not specified for us). For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the Internet Explorer of DOAP. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :)

If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't
see why adding tests after merge helps anyone.

Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to start inserting content.
We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk.

or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but
that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes
sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or
migration support.

That could be a great feature for kde.org, but we're working for gnome.org here :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on GNOME usability, to understand the joke).

Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined value can fit well enough.
Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms also means not specified for us).
For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the Internet Explorer of DOAP.

--
Simone Deponti
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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 10:06:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF74D3B00C0 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 944 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M61pkHhu8KHY for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787573B0096 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLKwr-0006E2-EP for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:05:35 +0000 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:06:25 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) > > If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't > see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. > > > Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" > is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to > start inserting content. > We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a > difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk. > > or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but > that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes > sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or > migration support. > > > That could be a great feature for kde.org , but we're > working for gnome.org here :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on > GNOME usability, to understand the joke). /me doesn't get it at all > Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for > "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined > value can fit well enough. > Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration > script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that > doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms > also means not specified for us). > For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the > Internet Explorer of DOAP. I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so long as its translatable and there is a working migration. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 10:17:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586073B0091 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2802 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.179] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id it4gCTpYNENp for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364AF3B0088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so613386pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.102.1 with SMTP id e1mr9579395pym.1172416667520; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:17:47 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Martin Aspeli" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:17:52 -0000 ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > /me doesn't get it at all Sorry, I'm known for the fair amount of bad and obscure jokes I stuff into mails, anyway, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html might enlighten you (it triggered one of the biggest usability flamewars that I remember, but indeed pointed out the major difference between the two desktop environments) I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so > long as its translatable and there is a working migration. We I was thinking of hardcoding "All platforms" (and its translations) to "All platforms". That is because this way we are sure that whatever the user selects (it being "All platforms", "Alle Plattformen" or "Tutti", depending on the translation) the view retrieves the value "All platforms" (and not a value that depends on the translation or the user) that I can filter. Hardcoding to None was a "cleaner" approach (because adopting the "All platforms"-encoded approach kinda creates a "reserved value" that the user must not use), but using this minimizes the amount of migration that the migration script has to do and, since I'm not sure we can sort out a perfect algorithm for migration (there are some cases that are really hard to cover) the less work it has to do the better it is. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
/me doesn't get it at all

Sorry, I'm known for the fair amount of bad and obscure jokes I stuff into mails, anyway, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html might enlighten you (it triggered one of the biggest usability flamewars that I remember, but indeed pointed out the major difference between the two desktop environments)

I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so
long as its translatable and there is a working migration.

We I was thinking of hardcoding "All platforms" (and its translations) to "All platforms". That is because this way we are sure that whatever the user selects (it being "All platforms", "Alle Plattformen" or "Tutti", depending on the translation) the view retrieves the value "All platforms" (and not a value that depends on the translation or the user) that I can filter.
Hardcoding to None was a "cleaner" approach (because adopting the "All platforms"-encoded approach kinda creates a "reserved value" that the user must not use), but using this minimizes the amount of migration that the migration script has to do and, since I'm not sure we can sort out a perfect algorithm for migration (there are some cases that are really hard to cover) the less work it has to do the better it is.

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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464-- From davconvent@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 11:29:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8323B0007 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.103 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2100 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U-qkiBr5cHdD for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3493B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1422420nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.230.5 with SMTP id c5mr10652251nfh.1172420988143; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l32sm6569139nfa.2007.02.25.08.29.44; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Message-Id: <120E8F26-E3CB-4BD7-B190-046885D0C286@gmail.com> From: David Convent Subject: Re: Tango icons Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:29:39 +0100 To: Simone Deponti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:29:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I helped the Plango release process, the product is clean. If you want some Tango like theme, having its icons might be good :) David On 24 Feb 2007, at 15:40, Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello to the list. > > About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact > that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( http://plone.org/ > products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the > Tango ones. > > If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the > products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing > it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME > regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this. > > Have a good day > > -- > Simone Deponti > ------------------------------------------- > - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? > - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list --Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
I helped the Plango release = process, the product is clean.
If you want some Tango like = theme, having its icons might be good :)

David

On = 24 Feb 2007, at 15:40, Simone Deponti wrote:

Hello to = the list.

About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention = to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( = http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone = icons with the Tango ones.

If you find this interesting, might be = cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a = matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the = policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this.

Have = a good day

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Simone = Deponti
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- Microsoft is = the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
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= --Apple-Mail-1-840251194-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 25 17:56:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52993B00C4 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A+2WpGCvAiE7; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CACA3B0061; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 085976CC0C1; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:04 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, lmedinas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070225225604.085976CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:04 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:56:08 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: lmedinas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5038&view=rev Last few lines of output: Makefile:698: target `fr/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `pt_BR/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `sv/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. make[10]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' Makefile:698: target `fr/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `pt_BR/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `sv/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. make[10]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[10]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[9]: *** No rule to make target `all-am'. Stop. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[8]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[7]: *** [all] Error 2 make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 18:01:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60D23B0061 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.727 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2809 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GZT6UbVMOJW for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604733B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so664152pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.80.20 with SMTP id h20mr10476814pyl.1172444504856; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:01:44 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:01:49 -0000 ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Current status: doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview. Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the human eye). So yeah, I've even learned something :D. Greetings all -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Current status:

doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview.

Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the human eye).

So yeah, I've even learned something :D.

Greetings all

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- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 25 18:02:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE923B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vqWWpvFPlCUo; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B223B0012; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 262F26CC0F8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:03 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, lmedinas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070225230203.262F26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:03 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:02:07 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: lmedinas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5038&view=rev Last few lines of output: make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' Making all in brasero make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/brasero' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/brasero' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 18:36:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0444C3B006D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 1029 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MnNWvHb1g44q for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AD33B0007 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLSuK-0001PY-Md for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:35:30 +0000 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:36:11 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Current status: > > doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I > haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I > have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview. Great. :) > Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty > bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were > all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them > on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the > human eye). Welcome to the world of serious software development. :) Martin From quimgil@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 16:50:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1B03B00A7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6931 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.171] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8GRe-5-oozpp for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64DB3B002A for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so855417ugb for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr57191waf.1172526620844; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:50:20 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac4bbf7ea88f7f0c X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:50:28 -0000 http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/products/epiphany I need to go to sleep, tomorrow I will post comments about things we could improve. Once we have reached a product page type that satisfies all of us (I mean the GNBOME and Plone teams) I will make a call to maintainers to fill their own product pages. The goal is to get first at least the pages of products featured in the GNOME 2.18 release. Then we can keep filling until completing the official components and applications. Then we wthink what we do with the rest, if we want to do something more than linking to gnomefiles.org clever feeds. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 18:49:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782773B006F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:49:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2834 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aq3SHiW+768K for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C23B008B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so861766pye for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.38.17 with SMTP id q17mr13120350pyj.1172533734565; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:48:54 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Fwd: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:49:00 -0000 ------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, purely in the name of paranoia, I added a failing test to remind me, and confuse the others, about the "All Platforms" bug. It's not a major bug, but the DOAP spec says "Operating system that a project is limited to. Omit this property if the project is not OS-specific." Now, I guess I can add a fix in my branch. I was also wondering, if I do something like this security.declareProtected(permissions.View, 'getPlatformVocab') def getPlatformVocab(self): """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from the top-level projects container. """ allPlatformsTranslation = self.translation_service.utranslate('PloneSoftwareCenter', 'All platforms') allPlatforms = ('All platforms', allPlatformsTranslation) return DisplayList([allPlatforms , (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) Do I still need to migrate the content? Or better, the only migration I should do is to make sure to delete "All platforms" from the availablePlatforms in every PloneSoftwareCenter object in my portal, but that would be all. Other things I should do (I'm mainly posting my thoughts here for future reference) is: * Change the default content of availablePlatforms in PloneSoftwareCenter and add a validator that doesn't accept "All platforms" in any of the lines * Make sure "All platforms" gets correctly translated in templates (using the view) * And that's all, I guess My opinion is that is quite some work, that the whole stuff is still prone to user misconfigurations (Imagine one user unknowingly adding "All operating systems" to his PSC configuration: and all I said above becomes completely useless). I'm extremely confused over the issue. I would like to know the list opinion, if anybody has some. Oi, my head hurts -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, purely in the name of paranoia, I added a failing test to remind me, and confuse the others, about the "All Platforms" bug. It's not a major bug, but the DOAP spec says " Operating system that a project is limited to.  Omit this property if the project is not OS-specific."

Now, I guess I can add a fix in my branch. I was also wondering, if I do something like this

security.declareProtected(permissions.View, 'getPlatformVocab')
    def getPlatformVocab(self):
        """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from
        the top-level projects container.
        """
        allPlatformsTranslation = self.translation_service.utranslate('PloneSoftwareCenter', 'All platforms')
        allPlatforms = ('All platforms', allPlatformsTranslation)
        return DisplayList([allPlatforms , (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()])

Do I still need to migrate the content?

Or better, the only migration I should do is to make sure to delete "All platforms" from the availablePlatforms in every PloneSoftwareCenter object in my portal, but that would be all.

Other things I should do (I'm mainly posting my thoughts here for future reference) is:
* Change the default content of availablePlatforms in PloneSoftwareCenter and add a validator that doesn't accept "All platforms" in any of the lines
* Make sure "All platforms" gets correctly translated in templates (using the view)
* And that's all, I guess

My opinion is that is quite some work, that the whole stuff is still prone to user misconfigurations (Imagine one user unknowingly adding "All operating systems" to his PSC configuration: and all I said above becomes completely useless).

I'm extremely confused over the issue. I would like to know the list opinion, if anybody has some.

Oi, my head hurts


--
Simone Deponti
-------------------------------------------
- Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
- Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 19:24:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E883A3B006F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.611 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2835 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.177] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qo8g61ERFtAP for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461493B0010 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so866448pye for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.66.1 with SMTP id t1mr13274454pyk.1172535849717; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:24:09 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Fwd: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673" References: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261430w65944cecw8381ff776049c06b@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:24:13 -0000 ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, I'm gonna be serious now. I agree with Quim that the Products page needs a heavy make-up, but I knew it would. What I'm more concerned about is functionality: the look part shouldn't be hard. Speaking of the look part, I think we should need to fix the following "visual bugs" (not really bugs, more... underimplementation) that actually are present in wgo. I made up this little list by taking Mairin's mockup and putting it side to side with my Firefox window. 1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as background to the
  • , and they don't have the correct height (and their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few pixels) 2. Tabs: they need to be bigger. Bigger font, more padding in all the directions (the text is getting claustrophobic in there). Also, the template already gives the correct "active" class to tabs, and the CSS doesn't implement it (I love how the link color gets blue on the active tab in Mairin mockup). Needs to be fixed 3. The tertiary navigation bar: looked bigger and shinier in Mairin's mockup. Here, I fear we will have to give up on bigger since we're already low on screen real estate but, I guess we can do something on the shiny front. And here too, we miss the active spot CSS integration. 4. Last, that slightly vanishing grey background under the tertiary nav just goes down a little too much, if you compare the proportions with those in Mairin's mockups. It also goes under the content, where it generates a funny effect (part of it gets superseded by the white background of the content) Note, I am not criticizing anyone's work here (cause if we look at the code I wrote for PloneSoftwareCenter, I better shut up). Just doing a comparison (okay, I know we can't be pixel identical, but still..). And in my opinion, our implementation loses 60% of Mairin's mockup visual impact. I'm willing to take up task 1 and get it done asap, and after that, well, we'll see ;). I'm eager to hear opinions and why not, help offers :P. Good night everyone PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such characters. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, I'm gonna be serious now. I agree with Quim that the Products page needs a heavy make-up, but I knew it would. What I'm more concerned about is functionality: the look part shouldn't be hard.

    Speaking of the look part, I think we should need to fix the following "visual bugs" (not really bugs, more... underimplementation) that actually are present in wgo. I made up this little list by taking Mairin's mockup and putting it side to side with my Firefox window.

    1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as background to the <li>, and they don't have the correct height (and their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few pixels)
    2. Tabs: they need to be bigger. Bigger font, more padding in all the directions (the text is getting claustrophobic in there). Also, the template already gives the correct "active" class to tabs, and the CSS doesn't implement it (I love how the link color gets blue on the active tab in Mairin mockup). Needs to be fixed
    3. The tertiary navigation bar: looked bigger and shinier in Mairin's mockup. Here, I fear we will have to give up on bigger since we're already low on screen real estate but, I guess we can do something on the shiny front. And here too, we miss the active spot CSS integration.
    4. Last, that slightly vanishing grey background under the tertiary nav just goes down a little too much, if you compare the proportions with those in Mairin's mockups. It also goes under the content, where it generates a funny effect (part of it gets superseded by the white background of the content)

    Note, I am not criticizing anyone's work here (cause if we look at the code I wrote for PloneSoftwareCenter, I better shut up). Just doing a comparison (okay, I know we can't be pixel identical, but still..). And in my opinion, our implementation loses 60% of Mairin's mockup visual impact.

    I'm willing to take up task 1 and get it done asap, and after that, well, we'll see ;).

    I'm eager to hear opinions and why not, help offers :P.

    Good night everyone

    PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such characters.



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    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
    ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673-- From duffy@redhat.com Mon Feb 26 20:10:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A63B00D8 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.562 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 7725 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZyaF6PH05T3M for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3715A3B00E1 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R1AmOh016631; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:48 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R1AmCG002613; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:48 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.42] (vpn-248-42.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.42]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1R1Al7B018143; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: <45E3850F.9030407@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:39 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: Fwd: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page References: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261430w65944cecw8381ff776049c06b@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:10:55 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > 1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is > much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I > have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as > background to the
  • , and they don't have the correct height (and > their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few > pixels) If there's anything I can do to help fix this with graphics do let me know! I'll be working on wgo every night this week starting tonight. > PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. > I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open > accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such > characters. No worries 'Mairin' works fine for me. :) ~m From duffy@redhat.com Mon Feb 26 23:13:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644343B002A; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 7756 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VUpx-9y-7Vcf; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810F13B006F; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R4D60m008119; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:06 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R4D6NP029635; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:06 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.42] (vpn-248-42.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.42]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1R4D5Po031302; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:05 -0500 Message-ID: <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:12:57 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:13:11 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > On 2/20/07, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees >> > clearly where she is. >> >> Do you need artwork for this? > > Sure thing Okay, here is all the artwork as promised: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/wgo-navbar-splices.tar.gz I have splices for the highlighted and un-highlighted secondary nav bar (highlighted to be used for the currently-highlighted second-level nav item), and i have splices for both un-hightlighted and highlighted first-level nav bars. Let me know if you need any help with these; I made a little map of where each splice comes from, eg.: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/navbar1%20highlighted%20tab/nav1-highlighted-tab_splicing.png ~m From davconvent@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:05:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A273B00CF for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2153 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.184] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S9Jv3d+KyOG3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4753B0115 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so293209nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.202.18 with SMTP id z18mr1965250nff.1172610339284; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c1sm3218391nfe.2007.02.27.13.05.37; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:37 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <85455261-4DF9-4697-A313-A2A275BB8042@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Convent Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:05:19 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:05:46 -0000 Is someone in charge of applying this artwork in the CSS? I can't promise I'll have time for that before the deadline. I need at least to know if someone volunteers for it or if I need to =20 organize my time in order to try doing it myself. Cheers, David On 27 Feb 2007, at 05:12, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: > Quim Gil wrote: >> On 2/20/07, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: >>>> - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the =20 >>>> users sees >>>> clearly where she is. >>> >>> Do you need artwork for this? >> >> Sure thing > > Okay, here is all the artwork as promised: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/wgo-=20 > navbar-splices.tar.gz > > I have splices for the highlighted and un-highlighted secondary nav =20= > bar > (highlighted to be used for the currently-highlighted second-level nav > item), and i have splices for both un-hightlighted and highlighted > first-level nav bars. > > Let me know if you need any help with these; I made a little map of > where each splice comes from, eg.: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/=20 > navbar1%20highlighted%20tab/nav1-highlighted-tab_splicing.png > > > ~m > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:25:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171D3B02AE for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 360 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.235] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HoncCzJKoC9A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030023B02AD for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so2266975wra for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr475851wae.1172611544880; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:25:44 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Andreas Nilsson" Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 In-Reply-To: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e4747023f6219918 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:25:53 -0000 (((moving this to gnome-web-list since it's about tech and not content))) It seems that I almost the only stubborn with the horizontal secondary nav bar. Maybe you are right and it's better to have it vertical, then. This was one bit we left half-open in the planning process since there was no clear consensus for horizontal or vertical. "We will see the nav bar working and then we will decide", we said. The only problem I see now to do this change is of human resources. Who is going to do this work? On 2/27/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Greetings! > Not sure if this should have gone to the web-list instead, hope the > right people are subscribed to this one. :) > Tried out the beta-site at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ and ran into some > problems when using smaller resolutions. > On the "Take the tour" page it works good on 1680x1050 [1], but run into > problems with 1024x768 [2] and 800x600 [3]. This problem is also going > to arise when more projects get added to the product page. > I've chatted with both Steven Garrity and M=E1ir=EDn Duffy about this, an= d > Steven said they went for a vertical sub menu on mozilla.com [4] when > faced with the same issues as we have and M=E1ir=EDn pointed me to a moc= kup > of her [5]. > > Does this sound like a good idea? > Hope this isn't too late to change, or that we run into other issues by > doing this. > > 1. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1680x1050.png > 2. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1024x768.png > 3. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-800x600.png > 4. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/ > 5. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png > > btw, as a bonus point, screens are wider than tall. > - Andreas > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:38:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87AB3B0231 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6955 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.172] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mBOuLzQdnnLc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CBB3B02A2 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1153223ugb for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr1952477wac.1172612292630; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:38:12 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Guy Johnston" Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux In-Reply-To: <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90e293e898467503 Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:38:21 -0000 We are working hard in order to have a revamped wgo by the GNOME 2.18 release. Would you mind waiting until the new site is out? This problem will be fixed there. Personally I putting all my time in the wgo revamp and I haven't touched the current cvs/svn based wgo since ages. Thank you for your understanding. On 2/24/07, Guy Johnston wrote: > Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi Guy, > > > > Le dimanche 11 f=E9vrier 2007, =E0 21:13, Guy Johnston a =E9crit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME > >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." > >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole > >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the > >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, > >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought th= e > >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the syste= m, > >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the > >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating > >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is us= ed > >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read > >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. > > > > We already agreed on this a few months ago: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.ht= ml > > > > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vincent > > > > Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a probl= em. > > Thanks, > > Guy > -- > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/board-list > > >From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be discuss= ed > on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential information a= s > confidential, and do not redistribute this information without permission= . > --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From olav@bkor.dhs.org Tue Feb 27 17:00:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB33B0126; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.083 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046, TW_GT=0.077, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2286 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvMLHiTMlA7y; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864803B00B3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1B90E72F984; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:00:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:00:20 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: Goran Rakic Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status Message-ID: <20070227220019.GI5947@bkor.dhs.org> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: shaunm@gnome.org, gnome-sysadmin@gnome.org, gnome web , gnome-infrastructure@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:00:24 -0000 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:08:20PM +0100, Goran Rakic wrote: > õ ÐÅÔ, 16. 02 2007. Õ 13:07 +0100, Murray Cumming ÐÉÛÅ: > > > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > > > mockups I did > > > > What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would > > be nice. > > Sure, db2html.xsl[1] is overriding styles defined in Shaun's > gnome-doc-utils styles for converting docbook to HTML. What's necessary > is to have TOC on every page and to have previous/next navigation bar. > There are also issues with some cross-referenced links going to > yelp://... instead to other HTML page. Even if the style is totally incorrect, looks terrible, etc. Does the basic functionality work? Can you go from one chapter/page to the next one? If so, that is good enough for setting up a test version. Could you please advise what is needed for library.g.o v0.0.1 alpha to go live as library.gnome.org? Meaning: What software needs to be running on the server? What are the minimum versions you require? How much diskspace do you assume this will take? Does it need to have scripts in cron? Is there some documentation on how to get this working? If not, could you please write a short howto? Do you need a database? > Other file is gtk-doc.xsl[2], overriding default style for converting > gtk-doc documents to HTML. There are also issues with links to other > documents, like linking to glib API from epiphany API. I don't know to > which version of glib API documentation should links go and how to fix > this issue. It will be ugly just to remove outside links, but that can > work for now. That doesn't block the go-live of a test version. > [1]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gdu/xslt/db2html.xsl > [2]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gtkdoc/xslt/gtk-doc.xsl > > > > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > > > (index pages for browsing documentation). > > > > Is that a python coding task? > > Yes it is, it is necessary so one can browse localized documentation > using localized website, and it is not a major programming task. I think > it will be irritating for translation teams to go live without this > feature enabled. This also doesn't block a test version to go live. Yes, some stuff will be broken. The intention is to have something that shows something. It doesn't have to be perfect, have all the features, etc. -- Regards, Olav From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Feb 27 17:03:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9423B0126; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 3768 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.8.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hjzQahYaiouF; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1313B00B3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id CF26037EE2; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08E037E4F; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984CA37E43; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:03:35 -0000 I'm not good at Plone at all, but looking at the source, it looks like it should just be a matter of some css in one of the style-sheets. I'll see if I can come up with some usable css for a sidebar and hopefully we can just insert it. Any Plone dudes around? - Andreas Quim Gil wrote: > (((moving this to gnome-web-list since it's about tech and not content))) > > It seems that I almost the only stubborn with the horizontal secondary > nav bar. Maybe you are right and it's better to have it vertical, > then. This was one bit we left half-open in the planning process since > there was no clear consensus for horizontal or vertical. > > "We will see the nav bar working and then we will decide", we said. > > The only problem I see now to do this change is of human resources. > Who is going to do this work? > > On 2/27/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> Greetings! >> Not sure if this should have gone to the web-list instead, hope the >> right people are subscribed to this one. :) >> Tried out the beta-site at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ and ran into some >> problems when using smaller resolutions. >> On the "Take the tour" page it works good on 1680x1050 [1], but run into >> problems with 1024x768 [2] and 800x600 [3]. This problem is also going >> to arise when more projects get added to the product page. >> I've chatted with both Steven Garrity and Máirín Duffy about this, and >> Steven said they went for a vertical sub menu on mozilla.com [4] when >> faced with the same issues as we have and Máirín pointed me to a mockup >> of her [5]. >> >> Does this sound like a good idea? >> Hope this isn't too late to change, or that we run into other issues by >> doing this. >> >> 1. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1680x1050.png >> 2. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1024x768.png >> 3. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-800x600.png >> 4. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/ >> 5. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png >> >> btw, as a bonus point, screens are wider than tall. >> - Andreas >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > > From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:14:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B323B0093 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 361 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.229] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4enAMW3UotE0 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B73B0126 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so2284377wra for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr2748863waf.1172614459612; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:14:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Simone Deponti" Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 85a582ccf1c23e34 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:29 -0000 Isn't "all platforms" too wide anyway? Is your software working on maemo, Wii, P2P, mainframes... ;) Why not listing several OSs and then people select. Right, in the Plone case most things will work on any platform having a web browser. How GForge solves this is offering an option "Web based" that implies cross-platform. For wgo though this is not an issue since the options are far less. (is this the kind of opinion you were looking for?) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:14:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8D83B01DD for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2857 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csEAHCCVPhCe for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB243B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so1042857pye for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.110.13 with SMTP id n13mr4950077pym.1172614492189; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:14:52 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Andreas Nilsson" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 In-Reply-To: <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149" References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:56 -0000 ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first level at the tabs) with a different skin? It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and other mixed benefits (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David did, though :( ). I have made only a bunch of plone sites so far, and everytime they started with "okay, we won't have that plone tree menu". And I found myself bringing it back from the back door days before the release. So excuse if I insist with the proposal, but if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can come up with. And this comes from one person (me) that hated it in the beginning (I found it "boring"). Can't we have an impression of the plone menu (basically a multi-level sidebar) with gnome graphics? Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first level at the tabs) with a different skin?
    It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and other mixed benefits (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David did, though :( ).

    I have made only a bunch of plone sites so far, and everytime they started with "okay, we won't have that plone tree menu". And I found myself bringing it back from the back door days before the release.
    So excuse if I insist with the proposal, but if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can come up with.

    And this comes from one person (me) that hated it in the beginning (I found it "boring").

    Can't we have an impression of the plone menu (basically a multi-level sidebar) with gnome graphics?

    Greetings

    --
    Simone Deponti
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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:41:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D739D3B0233 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZFE0H11yVGv9 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C963B0246 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so1046738pye for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.50.5 with SMTP id c5mr15705432pyk.1172616109268; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702271441x4c19b192x9e3d825e37317223@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:41:49 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Quim Gil" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:41:54 -0000 ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for your opinion :) But the problem resides at another level (and here I'm sorry because I supposed everyone was familiar with how PloneSoftwareCenter works). In PloneSoftwareCenter, there is no such thing as assigning an OS (or a platform) to the project. Rather, the OS/Platform is assigned to the single downloadable file that belongs to a release: PloneSofwareCenter | --- Project | --- Release | --- File (here gets assigned the OS) So, I can have the project "epiphany". Project "epiphany" has only one release: "1.0". Release "1.0" contains 4 downloadable files: epiphany.exe(whose OS attribute says "windows"), epiphany.dmg (whose OS attribute says "mac os x"), epiphany.rpm (whose OS attribute says "linux") and the source distribution of the release epiphany.tar.gz (whose OS attribute says "all platforms" because from a theoretical point of view I can compile and run it on any platform that has a gcc). This is a brilliant approach. If release 2.0 adds support for BeOS, I don't have to modify the Project object and add BeOS to the list of supported systems: I just add the downloadable file. However, DOAP reasons along different lines: the OS/Platform attribute has to be associated to the project, and only if the project is OS-specific. In order to have a list of supported operating systems for a project, my code follows the simple algorythm: * Retrieve all the downloadable files associated with a Project * Reads all the OS/Platform attributes of each downloadable file * Filters duplicates and all and just returns the attribute list The problem is that, if I take the example I gave before (epiphany) I end up having four values: "windows", "mac os x", "linux" and "All platforms". What would DOAP do? Write no os attribute, because the project isn't os specific. What does my code do? Writes four os tags containing the four values. Now, if the light went down and there is just a siren and a blinking red light, don't worry, that's the bug alert. I should somewhat treat "All platform" in a different way, but I can't just rely on the name. Anyway, after thinking about it while coming home on the bus, I came to the conclusion that the only solution that works is the one suggested by Martin and that I mocked as "KDE-ish" (let the user, at configuration time, decide if a value represents "all platforms", or, in a more formal way, if the value triggers the deletion of the os tag when encountered). This means modify some stuff, write migrations scripts, and test them (the migration scripts: and to me doesn't look like a thing you can do in a couple of seconds). This is mainly because I suspect there is no way to automate migration scripts tests, and they have to be done manually, and you want to be *damn sure* that things in a migration script works well. I won't merge in trunk until this is corrected though: because we don't generate a correct DOAP right now. Is it possible to add DOAP after the release? (even in a short span: like a couple weeks) -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for your opinion :)

    But the problem resides at another level (and here I'm sorry because I supposed everyone was familiar with how PloneSoftwareCenter works).
    In PloneSoftwareCenter, there is no such thing as assigning an OS (or a platform) to the project.
    Rather, the OS/Platform is assigned to the single downloadable file that belongs to a release:

    PloneSofwareCenter
      |
      --- Project
            |
            --- Release
                  |
                  --- File (here gets assigned the OS)

    So, I can have the project "epiphany". Project "epiphany" has only one release: "1.0". Release "1.0" contains 4 downloadable files: epiphany.exe (whose OS attribute says "windows"), epiphany.dmg (whose OS attribute says "mac os x"), epiphany.rpm (whose OS attribute says "linux") and the source distribution of the release epiphany.tar.gz (whose OS attribute says "all platforms" because from a theoretical point of view I can compile and run it on any platform that has a gcc).
    This is a brilliant approach. If release 2.0 adds support for BeOS, I don't have to modify the Project object and add BeOS to the list of supported systems: I just add the downloadable file.

    However, DOAP reasons along different lines: the OS/Platform attribute has to be associated to the project, and only if the project is OS-specific.
    In order to have a list of supported operating systems for a project, my code follows the simple algorythm:
    * Retrieve all the downloadable files associated with a Project
    * Reads all the OS/Platform attributes of each downloadable file
    * Filters duplicates and all and just returns the attribute list

    The problem is that, if I take the example I gave before (epiphany) I end up having four values: "windows", "mac os x", "linux" and "All platforms".
    What would DOAP do? Write no os attribute, because the project isn't os specific.
    What does my code do? Writes four os tags containing the four values. Now, if the light went down and there is just a siren and a blinking red light, don't worry, that's the bug alert.

    I should somewhat treat "All platform" in a different way, but I can't just rely on the name.

    Anyway, after thinking about it while coming home on the bus, I came to the conclusion that the only solution that works is the one suggested by Martin and that I mocked as "KDE-ish" (let the user, at configuration time, decide if a value represents "all platforms", or, in a more formal way, if the value triggers the deletion of the os tag when encountered).

    This means modify some stuff, write migrations scripts, and test them (the migration scripts: and to me doesn't look like a thing you can do in a couple of seconds).
    This is mainly because I suspect there is no way to automate migration scripts tests, and they have to be done manually, and you want to be *damn sure* that things in a migration script works well.

    I won't merge in trunk until this is corrected though: because we don't generate a correct DOAP right now. Is it possible to add DOAP after the release? (even in a short span: like a couple weeks)


    --
    Simone Deponti
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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193-- From davconvent@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:04:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812693B0091 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:04:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x27sm3898600nfb.2007.02.27.17.04.47; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:04:47 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5829E6F1-A9EF-4EB6-B0BC-9B7261657CF7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:04:39 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:04:56 -0000 On 27 Feb 2007, at 23:14, Simone Deponti wrote: > What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first > level at the tabs) with a different skin? > It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like > navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and > other mixed benefits That would be the best approach for a vertical navigation slot. Configuring its top level and its depth is just a question of setting a few properties: easy. Having it relooked is a matter of CSS, it can take a bit of time depending on the design. > (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David > did, though :( ). Don't worry about that, it was fun doing it :) It will still reside in the svn history for further reference if someone needs that kind of code (I may, one day). > > [...] if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of > ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can > come up with. Definitely > > [...] > > Greetings Cheers, David From jdub@perkypants.org Wed Feb 28 12:33:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B193B0206; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.026 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.026 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.389, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.827, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 2) (up: 11930 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [70.85.31.216] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lOLZvX-YcoyX; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from node.waugh.id.au (node.waugh.id.au [70.85.31.216]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B33B01C6; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (home.waugh.id.au [150.101.121.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by node.waugh.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86563D960; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:33:45 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFD52CD973; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Guy Johnston Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux Message-ID: <20070228101616.GG1069@ministan.home> Mail-Followup-To: Guy Johnston , Quim Gil , Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.20-8-generic i686 X-Uptime: 21:14:09 up 6 days, 21:49, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.15, 0.10 Reply-By: Sat Mar 3 21:14:09 EST 2007 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:33:55 -0000 > As a different point, I'm often surprised by how many people don't know > that the GNOME project is part of the GNU project (I didn't know that when > I first started using GNU/Linux). > To stop as many people making that mistake, I'd also like it if the > relationship between GNOME and GNU was made more clear on the website. We're a GNU project by association only, not by purpose, leadership or even sponsorship. While we have a good relationship with the FSF, GNOME being a GNU project is not really very relevant for either organisation. We're good at doing different things. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "Whether you want to set fire to old institutions or to build whole new ones, nothing beats a good blog." - Doc Searls From guydjohnston@googlemail.com Tue Feb 27 20:54:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DBC3B007C for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gib+IhYwP+lu for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BE93B0083 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so361598nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr2487902nfi.1172627664061; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.193? ( [80.6.126.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b33sm2449370ika.2007.02.27.17.54.19; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:17 +0000 From: Guy Johnston User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:27:52 -0500 Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:33 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > We are working hard in order to have a revamped wgo by the GNOME 2.18 > release. Would you mind waiting until the new site is out? This > problem will be fixed there. Personally I putting all my time in the > wgo revamp and I haven't touched the current cvs/svn based wgo since > ages. > > Thank you for your understanding. > > On 2/24/07, Guy Johnston wrote: >> Vincent Untz wrote: >> > Hi Guy, >> > >> > Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME >> >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." >> >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole >> >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the >> >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, >> >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought >> the >> >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the >> system, >> >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the >> >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating >> >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is >> used >> >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read >> >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. >> > >> > We already agreed on this a few months ago: >> > >> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html >> > >> > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Vincent >> > >> >> Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a >> problem. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Guy >> -- >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/board-list >> >> >From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be >> discussed >> on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential >> information as >> confidential, and do not redistribute this information without >> permission. >> > > OK that sounds good. As a different point, I'm often surprised by how many people don't know that the GNOME project is part of the GNU project (I didn't know that when I first started using GNU/Linux). I've seen GNOME used a few times in a common argument against the use of the name 'GNU/Linux', that there's so many projects that have contributed to the system that GNU doesn't deserve a mention in the name (seemingly regardless of the fact that it's the main contribution). GNOME is sometimes cited in that argument as one of the major contributions to "Linux" which "isn't anything to do with GNU". To stop as many people making that mistake, I'd also like it if the relationship between GNOME and GNU was made more clear on the website. I think that both that suggested change and the use of the name 'GNU/Linux' should be helpful to GNU and the free software movement, even if only very slightly, particularly as GNOME is the default desktop for what seems to be the most popular GNU/Linux distribution at the moment (Ubuntu). I think that's important, as they seem to be getting pushed further and further into obscurity by the open source movement. New users of "Linux" often seem to be surprised and critical when we start talking about how their operating system relates to freedom, and something called GNU which they haven't heard of. The GPL is talked about a fair bit in the mainstream technology media nowadays, but even that's usually called an 'open source licence'. The ideals of software freedom which created it are rarely mentioned, even though its preamble discusses them quite thoroughly. Thanks, Guy From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Thu Feb 1 09:03:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D463B00DA for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.388 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.388 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_WM=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1522 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KmmJOMHV4C4V for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FE93B00EE for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so808697nfc for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr688451buc.1170338604159; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702010603u23ad0c47ub79cde53278111d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:03:24 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Olav Vitters" Subject: Re: Dead link for "Joining the GNOME Project" on http://developer.gnome.org/helping/ In-Reply-To: <20070130202728.GM26743@bkor.dhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124" References: <1169775687.5343.1.camel@q35> <51419b2c0701251758k4be89c74saaf04547b82f3ad5@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0701300822n14594b0ftf74a6e4ee1d66f8@mail.gmail.com> <45BF7E3D.8020504@gnome.org> <6cd2ce8c0701300926j3a85d55egebf14abaab3452@mail.gmail.com> <20070130202728.GM26743@bkor.dhs.org> Cc: Dave Neary , GNOME web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:03:33 -0000 ------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 1/30/07, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:26:31PM +0000, Joachim wrote: > > >The SVN module gnomeweb-wml contains www.gnome.org; web-devel-2 > contains > > >developer.gnome.org. > > > > > > Ok. > > But is changing the files in SVN sufficient to updating the content on > the > > web, or is another step required? > > Yes. Ok. Fixed the page in SVN. ------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 1/30/07, Olav Vitters <olav@bkor.dhs.org> wrote:
    On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:26:31PM +0000, Joachim wrote:
    > >The SVN module gnomeweb-wml contains www.gnome.org; web-devel-2 contains
    > > developer.gnome.org.
    >
    >
    > Ok.
    > But is changing the files in SVN sufficient to updating the content on the
    > web, or is another step required?

    Yes.

    Ok.
    Fixed the page in SVN.
    ------=_Part_2401_27695037.1170338604124-- From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Thu Feb 1 15:57:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882153B00AD for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.111 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.111 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6330 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.175] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKmTAhHC0voi for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A913B008A for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so566085ugb for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.182.8 with SMTP id e8mr849755buf.1170363443109; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:57:23 +0000 From: Joachim To: "web list" Subject: Problems with content in plone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:57:34 -0000 Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. - I don't see how to start a new page - I don't see how to edit an existing page Quim, was there any response to your call for who's still in on this project? In other worrds, have we managed to lose the small number of interested writers we had? From william.hamilton@gmail.com Thu Feb 1 20:03:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569973B0002 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:36 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.464 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 327 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [203.109.146.61] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q+0D4h3ZF6IM for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from flame.igniter.co.nz (203-109-146-61.static.ihug.net [203.109.146.61]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D358D3B00AE for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [203.114.145.151] (203-114-145-151.wifi.dyn.inspire.net.nz [203.114.145.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by flame.igniter.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C11180AC; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:03:30 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:03:23 +1300 From: William Hamilton Organization: BTD User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:03:36 -0000 Joachim wrote: > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct rights to create/edit content. > - I don't see how to start a new page Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which you are allowed to add in the location. > - I don't see how to edit an existing page At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one should say "edit". The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID does not have the correct rights. HTH W From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sat Feb 3 05:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1E03B009D for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1566 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.191] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlw3hgrP82G3 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56593B0099 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 05:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1329789nfc for ; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr1508103bud.1170497356753; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.1 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 02:09:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:09:16 +0000 From: Joachim To: "William Hamilton" Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone In-Reply-To: <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719" References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:09:23 -0000 ------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't see any of that. Could someone check the accounts are set up properly? Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site certificates be removed? On 2/2/07, William Hamilton wrote: > > Joachim wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site, > > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. > > I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you > are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone > layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct > rights to create/edit content. > > - I don't see how to start a new page > Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown > list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which > you are allowed to add in the location. > > > - I don't see how to edit an existing page > At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one > should say "edit". > > The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID does not > have the correct rights. > > HTH > > W > > ------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't see any of that.

    Could someone check the accounts are set up properly?

    Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site certificates be removed?

    On 2/2/07, William Hamilton <william.hamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
    Joachim wrote:
    > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test site,
    > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out.

    I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the system you
    are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default Plone
    layout.  I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct
    rights to create/edit content.
    > - I don't see how to start a new page
    Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a dropdown
    list saying "add to folder".  This list should contain the types which
    you are allowed to add in the location.

    > - I don't see how to edit an existing page
    At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one
    should say "edit".

    The above tasks _should_ be easy to do.  I suspect your UserID does not
    have the correct rights.

    HTH

    W


    ------=_Part_34885_26575746.1170497356719-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Sat Feb 3 11:03:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D203B0017 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_QG=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 6833 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LeZ13kkd0Wxv for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6363B0090 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l13G2ujS026157; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:02:56 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9767FBAB; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xhokdO0QTSuC; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43215FB79; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:00:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C4B22E.2000209@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:02:54 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: Problems with content in plone References: <6cd2ce8c0702011257r11c243aduc141ae3795708e8e@mail.gmail.com> <45C28DDB.9060808@gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702030209n65906bdcjbd2d3b04bc1dcc28@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:02:56 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:03:06 -0000 I checked, your account is on editor group who can edit the and add new content ( the same rights as qgil who could add pages ). Can you send a screenshot of the root ( https://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ ) autenticated ? Ramon En/na Joachim ha escrit: > I don't see any of that. > > Could someone check the accounts are set up properly? > > Also, while we're at it, could something be done about the three > pop-up dialogs of dire and incomprehensible warnings about site > certificates be removed? > > On 2/2/07, *William Hamilton* > wrote: > > Joachim wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but I've logged into our plone test > site, > > and there's a few pretty basic things I can't figure out. > > I will prefix my comments by saying that I have not seen the > system you > are adding contents to and the descriptions relate to the default > Plone > layout. I am also assuming you have logged in AND have the correct > rights to create/edit content. > > - I don't see how to start a new page > Near the top right hand side of the content box you will have a > dropdown > list saying "add to folder". This list should contain the types which > you are allowed to add in the location. > > > - I don't see how to edit an existing page > At the top of the content box you should see a number of tabs... one > should say "edit". > > The above tasks _should_ be easy to do. I suspect your UserID > does not > have the correct rights. > > HTH > > W > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From kumorp@tlen.pl Thu Feb 1 17:50:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AE13B006E for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.708 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.708 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2257 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [193.17.41.142] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xnqL2MtGQfXF for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (unknown [193.17.41.142]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686A23B006F for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (mx12 [127.0.0.1]) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835656280F8 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (systemy22.toya.net.pl [217.113.225.22]) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:13 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <171600DD-F340-456D-ABE1-131B816D9970@tlen.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: webmaster@gnome.org From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kumor?= Subject: Gnumeric Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 23:50:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:23:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:50:20 -0000 I was looking for gnumeric , best spreadsheets on the World and was glad find Your address. I would like this to buy for my Mac. Best wishes P.Kumor From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 4 14:43:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF83E3B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:43:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 4589 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q0SjhrOa6UL9 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84933B0086 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so1064322wra for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr531447wam.1170618175456; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:42:55 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:43:01 -0000 Hi Ramon, can we take out the Plone default portlets in the right column at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ ? - GNOME portlet example - Calendar - Last items Thank you. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 4 16:08:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CF13B00D0 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5260 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yNFVD-31G7Xw for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CFA3B010A for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1504042nzf for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with SMTP id u1mr530503wai.1170623307181; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:08:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:08:27 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Tuning one page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:08:33 -0000 I have put draft content at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/take-the-tour/ , let's use it as a test case to implement all the general improvements. - How can I make the URL be http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ ? Now this URL i showing a folder with all the pages, something we don't want to show. - In fact the generic URL should be http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/take-the-tour/ , then the /en/ would be added by browser negotiation and the rest of i18n rules we had agreed (that are documented, where?) - Where is the "Take the tour" title? - by Quim Gil out - by default we are not showing authors. - last modified 2007-02-04 22:41 - out by now, we might end up adding this kind of information in the footer, but it still needs to be properly implemented (who is going to do this?). - Document actions out, we haven agreed anything about 'email/print this page' - Language selection, out by now since we won have another languages for a while. When it comes back it needs to be located in the header, and offer the languages supported, not that Plone list that I guess responds to languages with Plone UI strings available. - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too small, do you agree? - How can I create blocks (portlets" to appear in the right column, only for this page? Thank you. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 4 16:57:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E783B0075 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1602 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K8+ycdxXDMwG for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF413B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1715375nfc for ; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.116.15 with SMTP id o15mr1795652buc.1170626240392; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:57:20 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343" References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:57:26 -0000 ------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/4/07, Quim Gil wrote: (snipping lots of stuff I agree with) - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > small, do you agree? Yes, it's too small. There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive debate like the XHTML. Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading. However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%. So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read. I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure why that is. ------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 2/4/07, Quim Gil <quimgil@gmail.com> wrote:

    (snipping lots of stuff I agree with)

    - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too
    small, do you agree?

    Yes, it's too small.
    There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive debate like the XHTML.
    Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading.
    However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%.
    So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read.

    I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure why that is.
    ------=_Part_61883_8234717.1170626240343-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 4 19:09:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9193B002C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jbH-sjrZiDXe for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17363B0014 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id C5F386CC0F8; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:02 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205000902.C5F386CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:09:02 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:09:05 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/guppi' Making all in gyrus make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/gyrus' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/gyrus' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 09:38:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCFB3B009D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TujAT1PYn9MS for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853573B0086 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 1E00C6CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:08 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205143808.1E00C6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:38:08 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:38:15 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 09:52:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03F93B0077 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cmQIZsZQzOTY for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B93B0078 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 456166CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:45 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205145245.456166CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:52:48 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 5 11:38:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD033B0094 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:38:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gT+KkIqNGNa9 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28193B0014 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 61A0D6CC0F8; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:58 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070205163758.61A0D6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:37:58 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:38:01 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Mon Feb 5 18:38:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5313B00BB for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7389 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Daqv3-7X8BLN for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A693B00CD for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l15Nc4nE006679 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:38:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F44FFBBA for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abjCsJOVaSnJ for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.132] (137.pool85-50-155.dynamic.orange.es [85.50.155.137]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94D2FB8F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:35:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C7BFDD.1000504@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:38:05 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome web Subject: [Fwd: Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site] X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000805020707090404050300" X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:38:04 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:38:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000805020707090404050300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------000805020707090404050300 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site" Message-ID: <45C7A729.9010907@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:52:41 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Plone defaults at wgo development site References: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041142p4a8d9f4ao837da262b5a430dd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: > Hi Ramon, can we take out the Plone default portlets in the right > column at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ ? > > - GNOME portlet example > - Calendar > - Last items > > Thank you. > > Done --------------000805020707090404050300-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Tue Feb 6 04:21:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02B3B00D8 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7486 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TnmkO5bVsD+A for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DD63B0078 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l169LUIZ026016; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:21:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688A5F9AA; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cn+oXeP5cxWr; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.132] (191.pool85-50-142.dynamic.orange.es [85.50.142.191]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4928F90E; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:18:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:21:32 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:21:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:21:49 -0000 First of all I must remember to everybody that we decided to put the images on a folder : https://edit.gnome.jardigrec.eu/images/ After uploading the images we can use them on kupu on the diferent pages. This images directory is a large folder. En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: > I have put draft content at > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/take-the-tour/ , let's use > it as a test case to implement all the general improvements. > > - How can I make the URL be > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ ? Now this URL i showing a > folder with all the pages, something we don't want to show. > > - In fact the generic URL should be > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/take-the-tour/ , then the /en/ would be > added by browser negotiation and the rest of i18n rules we had agreed > (that are documented, where?) > > About the URL: This issue is tied to multilingual support , as we decided to have it on second iteration there is intention to solve it in this iteration. All i18n stuff was posponed to next iterate. I had this things solved but I didn't aplied just not to add multilingua support right now. > - Where is the "Take the tour" title? > > - by Quim Gil out - by default we are not showing authors. > > - last modified 2007-02-04 22:41 - out by now, we might end up > adding this kind of information in the footer, but it still needs to > be properly implemented (who is going to do this?). > > - Document actions out, we haven agreed anything about 'email/print this page' > > - Language selection, out by now since we won have another languages > for a while. When it comes back it needs to be located in the header, > and offer the languages supported, not that Plone list that I guess > responds to languages with Plone UI strings available. > > i'll put out all the things. > - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > small, do you agree? > yea > - How can I create blocks (portlets" to appear in the right column, > only for this page? > > You can create a "portlet" using the kupu, as it's on the same page. As it is designed in the mochup the secondary pages have some portlets ( banner, most important product, rss ? ) .... then where do you want to put this portlet ? > Thank you. > > From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 17:53:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706D3B006A for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NdOfXZWGNihI for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7645B3B0073 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 4C9386CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:36 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070206225336.4C9386CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:53:39 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 19:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEB33B01B2 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bYdIhq7k0uPO for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7B3B006F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id ECADE6CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207001142.ECADE6CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:11:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Making all in js make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 6 19:36:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDF83B022F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GopOFJKSYHQZ for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3B53B006F for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 95B026CC0F8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:46 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207003646.95B026CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:36:46 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:36:49 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Making all in js make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/js' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Wed Feb 7 02:23:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2326C3B006F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iMlYaozRTfAE for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40FF3B0072 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id CB3A46CC0C1; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:03 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207072303.CB3A46CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:23:03 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:23:08 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' Makefile:392: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?). Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Wed Feb 7 02:53:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8519F3B006F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uKYEc1IZM+Xl for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE79E3B006A for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id B63626CC0C1; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:42 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070207075342.B63626CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 02:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:53:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse' Making all in tracker make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[9]: *** No rule to make target ` ', needed by `all-am'. Stop. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[8]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[7]: *** [all] Error 2 make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/images' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/tracker' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From glowball@gmx.net Fri Feb 9 10:28:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806223B0013 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.757 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.757 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, SPF_FAIL=1.142] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W3:.:?:?] (up: 294 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [84.16.224.147] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xQchqvRm3v-w for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from purple.nierenschaden.de (purple.nierenschaden.de [84.16.224.147]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C723B0011 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.128.1.14] (helo=dornkirk.core) by purple.nierenschaden.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HFXfi-00008O-FD for webmaster@gnome.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:22 +0100 Received: from hubert.core ([10.17.76.212]:41375) by dornkirk.core with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HFXfh-0002pO-TP for webmaster@gnome.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:23 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jens_D=C3=B6nhoff?= To: webmaster@gnome.org Subject: "Lost" links to some GNOME Architecture documentation Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:59:23 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:28:29 -0000 Hi. I stumbled over these () documents about GNOME filesystem modules, which I could not find starting at (it's missing in the navigation menu). The styles (layout, colors) also seem different, so perhaps that's some leftovers from an earlier clean-up (don't know whether the "missing" documentation has been merged with something else), or something has been forgotten somewhere. Just FYI ;) Greetings from bavaria, Jens From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sat Feb 10 08:06:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AC43B00AF for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehLBgCPx-mUO for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9374C3B0007 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 6C3786CC0C1; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:39 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070210130639.6C3786CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:06:39 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:06:45 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/images' Making all in screenshots make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make all-am make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[8]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo/screenshots' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ooo' Making all in ORBit2 make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ORBit2' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/ORBit2' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 10 16:22:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38493B0239 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.47 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5404 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JDBojuhcFN9T for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31E03B0155 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1262366nzf for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr6497515wae.1171142518860; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702101321y149d79f2qf2bf6b3818c39f67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:21:58 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "Ramon Navarro Bosch" Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> <45C8489C.4060205@epsem.upc.edu> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:22:04 -0000 On 2/6/07, Ramon Navarro Bosch wrote: > You can create a "portlet" using the kupu, as it's on the same page. As > it is designed in the mochup the secondary pages have some portlets ( > banner, most important product, rss ? ) .... then where do you want to > put this portlet ? In the right column, as planned at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PageStructure # Related Links block to be positioned towards the right hand side of the main body text area. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 10 17:01:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B1A3B0077 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.473 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5405 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.233] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCGJKf28zlUm for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.233]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09233B0142 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1269633nzf for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.93.1 with SMTP id q1mr6510572wab.1171144905817; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:01:45 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: "gnome web" , gox@devbase.net Subject: library.gnome.org status MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:01:51 -0000 What's the current status of library.gnome.org? Still planned for 2.18 release? I wondering about the final destination of important documents such as - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ - http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/platform-overview/platform-overview.html btw, it would be useful to have a relation of documentation under dgo that NEEDS to be migrated before we desconnect the subsite. Please provide URLs at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DeveloperGnomeOrg#head-487ac217434e97aaeaa2fab4c88a7d817d24fc9f (Docs to be rescued) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sat Feb 10 17:24:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182C23B00B2 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9347 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAQMKW-tGb1i for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7EA3B002B for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HG0dy-0008A4-9q for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:24:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Safari Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:23:06 +0000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:24:47 -0000 Hi guys, Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in private if I can help out with any specifics. Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters wide, down the left hand side. I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but when you do... :) Martin From dulmandakh@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 03:21:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7593B0308 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.544 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5415 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.225] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n+1+215yaBaD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0053B0135 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1375132nzf for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr5472661wam.1171182072149; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.19 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:21:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:21:12 +0900 From: "DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar" To: "Martin Aspeli" Subject: Re: Safari In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:21:17 -0000 On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Hi guys, > > Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in > private if I can help out with any specifics. > > Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running > Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in > Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters > wide, down the left hand side. > > I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but > when you do... :) > Guys working on content and other stuffs. It would be better if you provide screenshot, version of your OS and browser. Maybe it'll help to solve the issue. Thank you. > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > -- Regards Dulmandakh From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 11 07:01:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC123B035C for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9483 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C3OQaNebW6AX for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5963B0351 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HGDO4-000126-Uc for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:57 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:56 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:00:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: Safari Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:59:29 +0000 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:01:15 -0000 DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar wrote: > On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Hope you're progressing well. :) As always, do ask questions here or in >> private if I can help out with any specifics. >> >> Just thought I'd let you know in case none of you happen to be running >> Gnome on a Mac that http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/ looks very funny in >> Safari. All the content is in a column that's only a few characters >> wide, down the left hand side. >> >> I'm sure you haven't gotten around to browser compatibility yet, but >> when you do... :) >> > > Guys working on content and other stuffs. It would be better if you > provide screenshot, version of your OS and browser. Maybe it'll help > to solve the issue. Thank you. Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a blindfold. Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. Martin From davconvent@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 09:08:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5713B0206 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 1.147 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.147 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 936 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [85.234.192.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G58lwfbvQDo6 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ulysse.talessa.com (ulysse.talessa.com [85.234.192.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374813B0192 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from bru02-1-1-197-6.adsl.hyperline.be ([85.234.197.6] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by ulysse.talessa.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HGFNp-0001oZ-Kw for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:08:49 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gnome web From: David Convent Subject: Secondary Navbar Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:08:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:08:55 -0000 Hi list, Sorry I've been close to missing last month. I saw recent checkins in the gnometheme product for implementing the secondary navigation bar for the plone theme. I know this is still a work in progress but I already have a few remarks to address. I also hope I'll have a few hours this afternoon/evening/week to help improving it: - in 'gnometheme/skins/gnome_custom_templates/global_sections.pt': I see some redundant code that might be expensive (define selected_tabs and selected_portal_tab) this code should reside in a wrapper to make it called only once. - in 'gnometheme/skins/gnome_scripts/secondaryNavBar.py': Calculating the secondary nav bar with restrictedTraverse() and getFolderContents() is also very expensive. Another problem wit that method is that we'll have to reinvent the way the second navbar will play with default pages and linguaplone (when needed). The second navbar should be done from a catalog query. Ideally, I think we could get inspired by the way the navtree works to adapt it to our needs. I'll try to strart that work ASAP to show the way. From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 12:04:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E513B0363 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1765 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z5j72oEvFDE3 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042EA3B02FD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1723215nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr7350822buc.1171213450701; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:04:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:04:10 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Martin Aspeli" Subject: Re: Safari In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:04:16 -0000 On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but > fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a blindfold. > Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. I can confirm it on Safari 2.0.4, also on OS X 10.4.8 which is the latest. Doesn't Safari use the rendering engine from KHTML? It's all a ploy to stop KDE users reading our site! ;) From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 12:07:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF53B0363 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1765 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.187] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35h3O1t1swTc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CB43B02FD for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1723718nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr8309148bue.1171213623336; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:07:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:07:03 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:07:12 -0000 On 2/10/07, Quim Gil wrote: > What's the current status of library.gnome.org? Still planned for 2.18 release? Shaun mentioned this on IRC a couple of weeks back. What I gathered was: - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished - The code needs some work, but I don't know what. It's in our SVN and in python. > I wondering about the final destination of important documents such as > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > btw, it would be useful to have a relation of documentation under dgo > that NEEDS to be migrated before we desconnect the subsite. There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 11 12:50:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F143B0370 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6567 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.173] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YXQgV3xLvXOp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7182C3B0362 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so334507ugb for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.204.3 with SMTP id b3mr6576221wag.1171216216524; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:50:16 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" To: Joachim Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, ensonic@sonicpulse.de, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:50:21 -0000 On 2/11/07, Joachim wrote: > > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished > - The code needs some work, but I don't know what. It's in our SVN and > in python. Right. Here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/ Who "owns" this project now? Documentation team? Stefan Kost talk to me this week. He was really intererested in the status of this project and he was fearing that the guy had disappeared without leaving the source code. Good to see that our worst case scenario is in fact better than it could be. Is Shaun the only person that was following this project? Did I heard Danilo had also something to do with it? I guess the question is if we have the resources to work on the current code and release library.gnome.org at some point. Shaun and Danilo are not the most bored guys of the planet... :) > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. > There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, > and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. Can you find out where, please? -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 11 13:05:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183A13B03E9 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1766 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wUzniduozvLW for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72713B03A0 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1734145nfc for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr8401916buf.1171217120946; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702111005p7073e55cga5f93b9606f6e1fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:05:20 +0000 From: Joachim To: qgil@desdeamericaconamor.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gox@devbase.net, ensonic@sonicpulse.de, gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:05:30 -0000 On 2/11/07, Quim Gil wrote: > On 2/11/07, Joachim wrote: > Right. Here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/ > > Who "owns" this project now? Documentation team? I assume so, but you'd have to ask Shaun. IIRC he was mentoring the SoC guy. > > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > > The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. No, that could be it. Keeping the development version of this in a website module is probably what struck me as weird. > > There's the GDP's style guide and handbook, but again they are in SVN, > > and fresher verrsions than what dev.g.o carries. > > Can you find out where, please? http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/CvsModules The library.g.o code should know about this and pull the text from the repository, AFAIK. From olav@bkor.dhs.org Sun Feb 11 16:02:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F203B00F4 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.174 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 239 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ed5qxczg+Ntp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C876B3B01B3 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 130B42703A7; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:02:25 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status Message-ID: <20070211210225.GA14750@bkor.dhs.org> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702110907o3aac678ex75c9ed7fa7a84f01@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702110950i5f058f3lf4c03d8a2c26f3e0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:02:36 -0000 On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:50:16PM +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > > > - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ > > that's in SVN, under a totally non-obvious module name. > > The whole dgo is in svn, I guess you mean somewhere else. As a warning: It is not as easy as you might think. Developer.gnome.org is made up of different svn modules. The 'html' parts are mostly in web-devel-2. However, there are others like: URL part SVN module /documents/ gnome-devel-docs /gep gep /dotplan/porting porting-doc /status/ gnome-2-plan (above list is very incomplete) Some of the documentation was built out of modules that currently do not have that documentation anymore (only in history). Further, above is just the modules I know about. I know that for www.gnome.org and developer.gnome.org some modules directly install into the site itself (making it difficult to understand which SVN modules are used for www.gnome.org and developer.gnome.org). After the switch to SVN, I wanted to wipe out the existing d.g.o (because of all the 'CVS' directories, etc). I planned to 'just' build it from source again. I am still glad I decided otherwise. Some of d.g.o currently cannot be updated anymore. The only real solution that I see is building d.g.o to another directory and comparing which files (or maybe just directories) are not in web-devel-2. Note that I agree that all documentation should go to library.gnome.org and maybe we that should just be done (meaning, forget about checking all the possible d.g.o documents, just place docs we care about on library.g.o). -- Regards, Olav From kevin@bud.ca Sun Feb 11 21:09:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BAD3B00A8 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.664 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [33015:53:1:64:M1460, N, W2, N, N, T, N, N, S:.:?:?] (up: 5784 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [24.71.223.10] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RJMJCZd0y4fp for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9BC3B007B for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JDB00CM3VBTFN70@l-daemon> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JDB00CHMVBSYSA1@pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.12.101] ([70.79.26.46]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JDB005AUVBR2LL0@l-daemon> for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:09:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:09:13 -0800 From: Kevin Teague Subject: Re: Safari In-reply-to: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> To: Joachim Message-id: <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, Martin Aspeli X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:09:39 -0000 The current gnome #page Selector has this declaration: overflow: hidden; Safari seems to interpret the default width for this div as being very small :( There are two fixes that I've just tested that could work: 1. Remove the overflow property from the #page Selector. 2. Add a width property to the #page Selector, this works on Safari and Firefox on Mac for me: width: 100%; Both of these fixes seem to work on the latest versions of Safari and Firefox on Mac, but perhaps the overflow property needs to be set for IE? I don't have any IE to test it on, so I can't say if either of these changes messes up the IE layout. - Kevin On Feb 11, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Joachim wrote: > On 2/11/07, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> Well, it's Safari on Mac OS X 10.4. 8. I can take a screenshot, but >> fixing CSS from a screenshot is like shooting pigeons with a >> blindfold. >> Eventually, someone with a Mac would need to debug and tweak it. > > I can confirm it on Safari 2.0.4, also on OS X 10.4.8 which is the > latest. > > Doesn't Safari use the rendering engine from KHTML? > It's all a ploy to stop KDE users reading our site! ;) > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From vincent@vuntz.net Mon Feb 12 05:22:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607EC3B00CA; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:22:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.387 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.387 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.076, BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:46:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W4:.:?:?] (up: 5273 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [82.228.182.88] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FvvOfjwLw3Nn; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.228.182.88]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2FB3B00D8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7002A1126B6; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:21:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:21:57 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: Guy Johnston Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux Message-ID: <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:22:02 -0000 Hi Guy, Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : > Hi, > > I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME > offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." > The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole > GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the > GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, > and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought the > project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the system, > to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the > ideals of free software are for the development of this operating > system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is used > with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read > 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. We already agreed on this a few months ago: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From philn@avalon.com.au Mon Feb 12 01:38:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647DB3B00DB for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 2157 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [150.101.131.13] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vr77OH+Nb4Sm for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from camden.avalon.com.au (unknown [150.101.131.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5110A3B00C3 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.46] ([192.168.1.46]) by camden.avalon.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1C6bSPe023813 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 Subject: The GNOME Documentation Style Guide From: Phil Nitschke To: webmaster@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Avalon Systems Pty Ltd Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 Message-Id: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.5 (camden.avalon.com.au [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:07:28 +1030 (CST) X-Avalon-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Avalon-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.543, required 4, autolearn=, AWL 0.06, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: philn@avalon.com.au X-MailScanner-To: webmaster@gnome.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:02:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Phil.Nitschke@avalon.com.au List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:38:07 -0000 Hi, The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this style-guide? Thanks, -- Phil From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Mon Feb 12 06:49:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55C3B010C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1784 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5nqAAo7zexex for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610E3B00F4 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1933228nfc for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.187.16 with SMTP id k16mr6458283buf.1171280958022; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 03:49:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702120349r7b5fdf6bs8cbdcb88569a0944@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:49:17 +0000 From: Joachim To: Phil.Nitschke@avalon.com.au Subject: Re: The GNOME Documentation Style Guide In-Reply-To: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587" References: <1171262248.30017.1.camel@lamorak.int.avalon.com.au> Cc: web list X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:49:24 -0000 ------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/12/07, Phil Nitschke wrote: > > The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken: > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html > > Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this > style-guide? Hi. I don't think that is currently available online, unfortunately. Things are a bit of a mess right now, sorry :( You can get it from our SVN repository (and it's a more recent version than what was online), under /gnome-docu/gdp/style/ See http://live.gnome.org/SubversionFAQ for help with SVN. That'll get you a bunch of XML docbook files. Open style-guide.xml in Yelp. If you're writing documentation, join the gnome-doc-list and say hi :) ------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 2/12/07, Phil Nitschke <philn@avalon.com.au> wrote:
    The link to the GNOME Documentation Style Guide on this page is broken:
    http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/styleguide.html

    Are you able to fix it and/or tell me where I can access this
    style-guide?
     
    Hi.
    I don't think that is currently available online, unfortunately. Things are a bit of a mess right now, sorry :(
     
    You can get it from our SVN repository (and it's a more recent version than what was online), under /gnome-docu/gdp/style/
    See http://live.gnome.org/SubversionFAQ for help with SVN.
    That'll get you a bunch of XML docbook files. Open style-guide.xml in Yelp.
     
    If you're writing documentation, join the gnome-doc-list and say hi :)

     
    ------=_Part_85721_15707801.1171280957587-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 13:33:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDABF3B011D for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id czdNwlvb9aHi for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C503B0008 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id CBA7C6CC0C1; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:32 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212183332.CBA7C6CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:36 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 16:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6433B00CA for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hMQu7JhHsWzd for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A783B0142 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 81DF26CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:58 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:57:58 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:58:32 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From olav@bkor.dhs.org Mon Feb 12 17:28:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99613B0164 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.209 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.991, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 235 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gHa3+c2WbGyf for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761F23B0169 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id D221573A964; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:28:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:28:46 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-ID: <20070212222846.GD3982@bkor.dhs.org> References: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070212215758.81DF26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:28:51 -0000 On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 04:57:58PM -0500, Web Site Maintainance wrote: > Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. > > Last few lines of output: If I have made no mistakes, the script should now list the person who made the last commit and also a link to viewcvs. The person who made the last commit will also be CC'ed (you broke it, you fix it). The last commit does not have to be the person who broke the build. Meaning: 1. Lots of commits by various person before the script runs. As the script only sees the last commit, it assumes that person broke it. 2. After a breakage, someone else commits. Script assumes that one broke the build I could fix #2 by storing the person who broke the build somewhere (and remove that info as soon as it builds again). Currently it will always look at the last commit. -- Regards, Olav From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 17:33:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC33B015C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1-ZZxHTuxNzJ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400F23B00A3; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 1EA716CC0C1; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:50 -0500 (EST) To: btimothy@gnome.org, gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212223350.1EA716CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:33:54 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: btimothy ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5020&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 18:03:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD75B3B0228 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zV5HpcE4kYQw; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECCB3B01E3; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 176C76CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, nnielsen@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212230349.176C76CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:03:54 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: nnielsen ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5021&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Mon Feb 12 18:33:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31063B008C for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xj9inINXxi6k; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD6F3B0073; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 48E186CC0F8; Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:09 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, mmattioni@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070212233309.48E186CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:33:09 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:33:13 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: mmattioni ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5022&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 13 05:54:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214413B010E for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7N7Rfe9ANBeZ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441C3B00D9; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 401DB6CC0C1; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:36 -0500 (EST) To: friemann@gnome.org, gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070213105436.401DB6CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:54:36 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:54:41 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: friemann ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5023&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' cd ../../../.. && /bin/sh ./config.status www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile config.status: creating www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images/Makefile make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnomeweb@gnome.org Tue Feb 13 06:47:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545F53B00A1 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:47:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxkoalS2G66t; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F573B000C; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 70F146CC0F8; Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:57 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, xaviblas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070213114657.70F146CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:46:57 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:47:00 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: xaviblas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5024&view=rev Last few lines of output: Making all in chronojump make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/images' Making all in articles make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[7]: *** No rule to make target `chronojump_sistema_de_medida_congreso_gpul.pdf', needed by `all'. Stop. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump/articles' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/chronojump' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Wed Feb 14 07:33:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5D73B0072 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9438 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGRcOUsJaUjk for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6AD3B008A for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1ECXGE1013019 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F4AFC70 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gsUhQeK1uER9 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E7EF911 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:30:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D30189.3040702@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:13 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome web Subject: [WGO] New things X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:33:16 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:33:25 -0000 Some things : * secondNavBar is uploaded on devsite. you can see that on http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ you see the different sections on take-the-tour... you can see the problem ... which is the best solution ? * products : I'm going to upload the product today night and also the mainpage. Ramon From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Wed Feb 14 08:08:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716403B0099; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9444 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSRLBmzi4Pj7; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8693B000C; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1ED7wlk018118; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE17F98F; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f8Pj3BcT2TQ2; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.26.99] (62.79.51.233.adsl.arno.tiscali.dk [62.79.51.233]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D7F93B; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:55 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: panos.laganakos@gmail.com Subject: Re: gnome tour mockup References: <61595bf30702101317t4dac76e1kfa13492651f620c6@mail.gmail.com> <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:07:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web , GNOME Marketing List X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:08:06 -0000 En/na Thilo Pfennig ha escrit: > On 2/13/07, Panos Laganakos wrote: > >> Here's an update: >> >> ... >> > > Hi Panos, > > I like this - idea and how you did it. Question is how well this can > be done with Plone. But maybe you or others already know how to do > this. Would be nice to see such ideas be implemented. > > Hi everybody ! Yea it's a really nice mockup but I have some opinions : * First is that if we are talking about using the most standard web pages to be compatible with all the browsers it's not so nice to fill the wgo with javascript. * Second we are few people on wgo, so adding AJAX framework will it make more complicated and dificult to maintain. * Third if what we want is creating a presentation , we can use S5 for example Panos, what do you need as "AJAX" to make this mockup a webpage ? Ramon From grakic@devbase.net Thu Feb 15 21:01:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05DC3B002B for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.759 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.759 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.841, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 (up: 6154 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [216.86.168.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mnGeT6q9ey0z for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8633B0007 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [89.216.141.47]) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BE151941 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:01:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Goran Rakic To: gnome web In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:04:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:01:36 -0000 У нед, 11. 02 2007. у 17:07 +0000, Joachim пише: > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished Last time I checked, I was still here, reachable on this email address. Anyway, I take all the blame for not comunicating with others as I should. I should update GnomeWeb/Library wiki page but I still do think that everything can be done for 2.18 release. On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on mockups I did and I need to integrate gettext support for static content (index pages for browsing documentation). After that, there is nothing major stoping us to put library-web on progress.gnome.org as Danilo suggested some time ago. -- Goran Rakic aka "The vanished" From murrayc@murrayc.com Fri Feb 16 07:12:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ADF3B010B for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.192 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.192 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.308, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077, WHY_WAIT=0.638] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 914 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [208.97.132.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XdbsShgfVTcD for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from swarthymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-207.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0910A3B0121 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.43] (u25-56.dsl.vianetworks.de [212.168.164.56]) by swarthymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7824EE942; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Murray Cumming To: Goran Rakic In-Reply-To: <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:07:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:12:34 -0000 On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 03:04 +0100, Goran Rakic wrote: > У нед, 11. 02 2007. у 17:07 +0000, Joachim пише: > > - The SoC guy who was working on it has vanished > > Last time I checked, I was still here, reachable on this email address. > Anyway, I take all the blame for not comunicating with others as I > should. > > I should update GnomeWeb/Library wiki page but I still do think that > everything can be done for 2.18 release. > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > mockups I did What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would be nice. > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > (index pages for browsing documentation). Is that a python coding task? > After that, there is nothing > major stoping us to put library-web on progress.gnome.org as Danilo > suggested some time ago. Great. But why wait for these extra items? They are nice, but they don't sound essential for a first release. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Fri Feb 16 08:19:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F1B3B0189 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1881 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mNgZmuRQc4H8 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D903B0126 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1304981nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.172.15 with SMTP id u15mr4679428bue.1171631941454; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:19:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702160519i297c479fsa1e6298b88508403@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:19:01 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Goran Rakic" Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status In-Reply-To: <1171591043.15633.15.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.963 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.963 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.484, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, TW_GT=0.077, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 (up: 6167 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [216.86.168.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1zdjhlbIeh53 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE033B01CB for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [89.216.141.47]) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779EA5197E; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:06:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status From: Goran Rakic To: Murray Cumming In-Reply-To: <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:08:20 +0100 Message-Id: <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:07:37 -0000 У пет, 16. 02 2007. у 13:07 +0100, Murray Cumming пише: > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > > mockups I did > > What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would > be nice. Sure, db2html.xsl[1] is overriding styles defined in Shaun's gnome-doc-utils styles for converting docbook to HTML. What's necessary is to have TOC on every page and to have previous/next navigation bar. There are also issues with some cross-referenced links going to yelp://... instead to other HTML page. Other file is gtk-doc.xsl[2], overriding default style for converting gtk-doc documents to HTML. There are also issues with links to other documents, like linking to glib API from epiphany API. I don't know to which version of glib API documentation should links go and how to fix this issue. It will be ugly just to remove outside links, but that can work for now. [1]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gdu/xslt/db2html.xsl [2]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gtkdoc/xslt/gtk-doc.xsl > > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > > (index pages for browsing documentation). > > Is that a python coding task? Yes it is, it is necessary so one can browse localized documentation using localized website, and it is not a major programming task. I think it will be irritating for translation teams to go live without this feature enabled. -- Goran Rakic From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 16:56:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276BD3B0121 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5549 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.231] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pmb6t7K+Wdix for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280D93B0014 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1107433nzf for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.205.1 with SMTP id c1mr2194301wag.1171663011983; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702161356l2447a45etc3d7877f8c1c35f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:56:51 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Ramon Navarro Bosch" Subject: Re: gnome tour mockup In-Reply-To: <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <61595bf30702101317t4dac76e1kfa13492651f620c6@mail.gmail.com> <2cbc44a0702132356t3e77fb03i23dd8d267187db5f@mail.gmail.com> <45D309AB.8000103@epsem.upc.edu> <61595bf30702161356l2447a45etc3d7877f8c1c35f3@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: sinzui.is@verizon.net List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:20:04 -0000 On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 23:56 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > Excuse if I don get into details, some of the technical aspects escape > to my knowledge (i.e. why AJAXś javascript is "worse" than E5's JS) This issue is not AJAX verses JavaScript. The issue ultimately is if JavaScript is required for the user experience, and how robust must it be. EcmaScript is a standard, but no browser has been perfect at implementing it. Every browser has proprietary additions. Successful JavaScript implementations test for features before using them, provide implementations for missing features, and offer some form of graceful degradation when implementations are not available. Just three years ago, it was very difficult to make a sophisticated and reliable JavaScript app because every micro release of a browser broke API compatibility with the previous release. The problem was compounded by the CSS engine, which JavaScript uses to accomplish the in-page effects. The success of AJAX is ultimately derived from proven (almost paranoid) cross browser and cross engine testing. Libraries like Prototype + Scriptaculous or JQuery, provide tested features and effect that do work in IE, Moz, KHTML, Safari, and Opera. Other browsers are not guaranteed, and if they must be supported, then additional labor is need to update the browser and/or the AJAX library. As an aside, a lot of so called AJAX is nothing more that dynamic HTML since there is no asynchronous requests for data. Using JavaScript means we are committing additional time to develop, test, and maintain. Authors must know what CSS ids and classes to apply to their content to enable a feature. Developers must create scripts that know when to wire their event handlers to those CSS ids and classes (and when not to). Authors generally do not require anything more interactive that hyperlinking. Applications like browsing and searching through structured data will be more usable if the interface is more responsive, and illustrative of how information is organized. All that said. JQuery or Scriptaculous can do some astounding sweet effects and compelling functions that do not require plugins. You can make amazing presentations that include cross-fading and moving that look like GL-based composting. An adept developer can use these libraries to do a selection and transition in a single line of code. PS, remember that many people ask search engines before asking gnome.org. We should not permit our data and functions to lock out bots just because they are blind idiot savants without JavaScript or CSS. > My points are: > > - Whatever we do needs to be easily editable via the CMS. > > - Whatever we do needs to fit in http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WebPolicies > > - We can start doing something simple but effective that can be ready > for the launch. Then with a website already launched we can work on > improvemts without this time pressure. Working from scratch without > further references and with a tight deadline it's too unpleasant. > > - Anyway the most elaborated tour we could imagine will need some > static pages to start discussing a build upon. Perhaps by now we don > need anything else than these static pages. > -- __C U R T I S C. H O V E Y____________________ sinzui.is@verizon.net Guilty of stealing everything I am. From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 18:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1263B00B8 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:39:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1892 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.191] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bnW-hmpDWii2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C0F3B00B2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1457893nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr2946691nfl.1171669136711; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:38:56 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Plone account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:39:02 -0000 Hello, How does one get a Plone account on the demo site? I would like one. Thanks, Gabriel From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Fri Feb 16 19:49:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3263B00B2 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1893 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.189] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qX+AAx-Yv0qa for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6943B0097 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1470822nfc for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.20.1 with SMTP id x1mr2971476nfi.1171673370353; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:49:30 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Plone setup in svn? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:49:35 -0000 Hi again, Are the configuration/theme/patches etc that will be used for the WGO Plone install in SVN? If not, should they be? It would be great if they were and people could setup their own local installs of Plone to tweak it for performance, features, etc. Thanks, and sorry if I'm brining up things covered by old threads, I searched the archives and didn't see anything. Gabriel From duffy@redhat.com Fri Feb 16 21:03:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BFC3B0086 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 5334 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QBcm6jXRj9j7 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489D93B006D for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1H230O2001442 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:03:00 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1H22xiq009452 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.5] (vpn-248-5.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.5]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1H22w8Z011154 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:59 -0500 Message-ID: <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:02:56 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Plone account References: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:03:05 -0000 Gabriel Burt wrote: > How does one get a Plone account on the demo site? I would like one. Me too! ~m From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 03:13:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69F73B007B for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 4914 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.227] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3xyvniFdPpBx for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368183B006D for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1216720wxc for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr2296544wam.1171700028957; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:13:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702170013u6cf0b901s9f87e373f3d4bd26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:13:48 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=" Subject: Re: Plone account In-Reply-To: <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161538u7a1766e9wf69649f7e4731c1e@mail.gmail.com> <45D66250.7060101@redhat.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae6259524d77dcb5 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:13:56 -0000 VGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgc2FuZGJveDogaHR0cDovL2phcmRpZ3JlYy5ldTo4MDI4L3NhbmRib3gvCgpB bmQgdGhpcyBpcyB3aGVyZSBuZXcgdXNlcnMgZ2V0IGFuIGFjY291bnQ6Cmh0dHA6Ly9qYXJkaWdy ZWMuZXU6ODAyOC9zYW5kYm94L2pvaW5fZm9ybQoKVGhlIHNpdGUgd2l0aCBhIEdOT01FIGxvb2sg aXMgbm90IGEgZGVtbyBzaXRlLCBpdCBpcyBvdXIgcmVhbCBhbmQgb25seQpHTk9NRSBpbnN0YWxs YXRpb24uIElmIGl0IGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgZGVtbyBpdLYgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGVyZSBpcyBzdGlsbApz byBtdWNoIHdvcmsgdG8gZG8hCgpZb3UgY2FuIHJlcXVlc3QgYWNjZXNzIHRvIGVkaXRpbmcgdGhl IHJlYWwgc2l0ZSBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIGdvaW5nIHRvCndvcmsgcmVhbGx5IG9uIGl0LiBJZiB5b3Ug d2FudCB0byBrbm93IG1vcmUgYWJvdXQgUGxvbmUgcGxlYXNlIHVzZSB0aGUKc2FuZGJveC4KCgoK T24gMi8xNy8wNywgTeFpcu1uIER1ZmZ5IDxkdWZmeUByZWRoYXQuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKPiBHYWJy aWVsIEJ1cnQgd3JvdGU6Cj4gPiBIb3cgZG9lcyBvbmUgZ2V0IGEgUGxvbmUgYWNjb3VudCBvbiB0 aGUgZGVtbyBzaXRlPwoKCi0tIApRdWltIEdpbCAvLy8gaHR0cDovL2Rlc2RlYW1lcmljYWNvbmFt b3Iub3JnCg== From davconvent@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 04:12:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ECD3B007B for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.453 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_NEUTRAL=1.069, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 2327 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [85.234.192.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KhaySjIcLV3F for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ulysse.talessa.com (ulysse.talessa.com [85.234.192.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA19A3B006D for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from [193.172.12.91] (helo=[192.168.12.91]) by ulysse.talessa.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HILca-0006L6-QN; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:12:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:12:28 +0100 To: Gabriel Burt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:12:53 -0000 https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/ This is the svn repository for the WGO project https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/gnometheme/trunk this is the Plone Theme and Portal Setup :-) I guess you'd ask Ramon for write access on the repos Cheers, David On 17 Feb 2007, at 01:49, Gabriel Burt wrote: > Hi again, > > Are the configuration/theme/patches etc that will be used for the WGO > Plone install in SVN? If not, should they be? It would be great if > they were and people could setup their own local installs of Plone to > tweak it for performance, features, etc. > > Thanks, and sorry if I'm brining up things covered by old threads, I > searched the archives and didn't see anything. > > Gabriel > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Sat Feb 17 18:22:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D93A3B0003 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.386 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.137, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 1915 hrs), (distance 20, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7rux5KMlX7LQ for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA813B007E for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1713148nfc for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr7693517buc.1171754555708; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.69.1 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:22:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:22:35 -0600 From: "Gabriel Burt" To: "David Convent" Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:22:41 -0000 On 2/17/07, David Convent wrote: > https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/ > This is the svn repository for the WGO project > > https://svn.lafarga.cpl.upc.edu/dades/svn/wgo/gnometheme/trunk > this is the Plone Theme and Portal Setup :-) > > I guess you'd ask Ramon for write access on the repos It seems even read access requires a password. Is there a reason not to have this in Gnome SVN? Also, is there a wiki page that explains all this that I am missing? Thanks, Gabriel From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 00:34:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA183B00CA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5580 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Znzs1WqL6qeR for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BB13B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1474708nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr1605671wab.1171776859255; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172134t6e23e675xfc392dfaa65bb8a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:34:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Gabriel Burt" Subject: Re: Plone setup in svn? In-Reply-To: <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24348e0702161649w6b3c18cal46a07dfe647cc1be@mail.gmail.com> <24348e0702171522t23d4c44dxe8382c0cacefa8b8@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b0e33a6481513aa5 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:34:24 -0000 aHR0cDovL2xpdmUuZ25vbWUub3JnL0dub21lV2ViL0Ntc1NldHVwCgpUaGUgUGxvbmUgc3R1ZmYg c3RhcnRlZCBhcm91bmQgUmFtb262IGF2YWlsYWJsZSBpbmZyYXN0cnVjdHVyZS4gV2UKbmVlZCB0 byBzdGFydCBtb3ZpbmcgZXZlcnl0aGluZyB0byBHTk9NRSdzIGluZnJhc3RydWN0dXJlIC0gc29v bi4gVGhlCnByb2JsZW0gaXMgdGhhdCBzeXNhZG1pbnMgYXJlIGJ1c3kgYW5kIGl0J3MgZGFtbiB0 b3VnaCB0byBncmV0CmFuc3dlcnMvcGxhbnMvYWN0aW9ucwoKUmFtb24sIGhhdmUgeW91IHJlcXVl c3RlZCBhIEdOT01FIGFjY291bnQgYWxyZWFkeT8KaHR0cDovL2xpdmUuZ25vbWUub3JnL05ld0Fj Y291bnRzCgpJZiBub3QsIGRvIGl0IG5vdyBwbGVhc2UuICBNZW50aW9uIHRoYXQgeW91IGFyZSBj b29yZGluYXRpbmcgd2dvCnJldmFtcC4gSSB3aWxsIGFzayBpbiBnbm9tZS1pbmZyYXN0cnVjdHVy ZSBhZ2FpbiBob3cgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIHByb2NlZWQKd2l0aCB0aGUgcGxvbmUgcGxhbi4KCgpPbiAy LzE4LzA3LCBHYWJyaWVsIEJ1cnQgPGdhYnJpZWwuYnVydEBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgoKPiBJ dCBzZWVtcyBldmVuIHJlYWQgYWNjZXNzIHJlcXVpcmVzIGEgcGFzc3dvcmQuICBJcyB0aGVyZSBh IHJlYXNvbiBub3QKPiB0byBoYXZlIHRoaXMgaW4gR25vbWUgU1ZOPyAgQWxzbywgaXMgdGhlcmUg YSB3aWtpIHBhZ2UgdGhhdCBleHBsYWlucwo+IGFsbCB0aGlzIHRoYXQgSSBhbSBtaXNzaW5nPyAg VGhhbmtzLAoKLS0gClF1aW0gR2lsIC8vLyBodHRwOi8vZGVzZGVhbWVyaWNhY29uYW1vci5vcmcK From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 01:24:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01433B00E8 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5581 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.239] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gv+xuXhYaFHd for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31323B00EA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1483250nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr2501933wad.1171779860671; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:24:20 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5611ec6839921fbe X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:24:26 -0000 We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference to discuss. *** GNOME bar (black at the top) - We can consider it a stable beta. - Look&feel works, URLs work. - Still open to improvements but it can be released as it is now. *** wgo primary bar (the tabs) - Still missing tabs, I will add them. - I think the eyes notice first the secondary bar and consider it more relevant. Tabs should be bigger, perhaphs brighter. Bolder fonts? Also, the fact that is aligned to the right helps its non-visibility next to the secondary bar. - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees clearly where she is. - The tab of the current section could have no border to the secondary nav bar, this way we have a single navigation bar, so to say. This way we also avoid having to duplicate items in primary and secondary. Now "Take the tour" appears twice. - Clicking to a tab should bring the user automatically to the page. If I click to the "Take the tour" tab I should get the content. Now http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ is an index. *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), they need to be bigger. - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so users know where they are. - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of the last tab in the primary nav bar. - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal scrolling, as many websites do. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 02:02:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B663B00EA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5582 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.229] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f5Rn5Qcfy6g5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFBA3B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1489460nzf for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.111.1 with SMTP id j1mr2509943wac.1171782154057; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:02:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702172302x41e692a5pfcaa22f6047cb7d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:02:34 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a6e85d83bd9f534c X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:41 -0000 On 2/18/07, Quim Gil wrote: > - Still missing tabs, I will add them. Items in wgo primary bar added. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation#head-7f5aaae9cd84c09c3b124dd905d204793c25e372 will help us not forgetting things. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From joachim.gnome@googlemail.com Sun Feb 18 04:38:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9009A3B00DE for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.103 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AWjtoikhDNQC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9483B0080 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1807350nfc for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.187.16 with SMTP id k16mr8186979buf.1171791489184; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.14 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:38:09 +0000 From: Joachim To: "Quim Gil" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130" References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:38:14 -0000 ------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/18/07, Quim Gil wrote: > > We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. > > Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference > to discuss. (snip) *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed. - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. ------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
    We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation.

    Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference
    to discuss.
    (snip)

    *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs)
    - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo),
    they need to be bigger.
     
    Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed.

    - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each
    item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the
    Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in
    800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal
    scrolling, as many websites do.
     
    It'll never fit at 800 with that many items.
     

     
    ------=_Part_27592_21098533.1171791489130-- From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 05:24:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFE63B00C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:24:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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Suggestion (if it's technically feasible): let's customize now this Plone app to our needs, leaving the DOAP thing for the next release cycle. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From leetambiah@ossgeeks.co.uk Sun Feb 18 07:02:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE1B3B0080 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.126 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.126 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.338, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) (NAT!), (distance 19, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [83.138.142.194] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5WV97u3wfKS for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk (ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk [83.138.142.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886053B0073 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30747 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2007 12:01:50 +0000 Received: from 62-30-117-58.cable.ubr03.perr.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (62.30.117.58) by netexplorers.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Feb 2007 12:01:50 +0000 Message-ID: <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:02:16 +0000 From: LeeTambiah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000607060106030905070101" Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:02:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000607060106030905070101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joachim wrote: > > > On 2/18/07, *Quim Gil* > wrote: > > We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation. > > Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference > to discuss. > > (snip) > > *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. > > > Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body > element needs to be increased or removed. > > - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. > > > It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. I agree the are too many items for this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > --------------000607060106030905070101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joachim wrote:


    On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
    We still need to solve some issues relating to navigation.

    Let's have http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ as a reference
    to discuss.
    (snip)

    *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs)
    - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo),
    they need to be bigger.
     
    Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element needs to be increased or removed.

    - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each
    item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the
    Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in
    800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal
    scrolling, as many websites do.
     
    It'll never fit at 800 with that many items.
    I agree the are too many items for this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png.
     
    
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    --------------000607060106030905070101-- From davconvent@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 08:22:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1323B00E7 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:22:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6731 hrs), (distance 20, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.172] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ZaQVui+qtXe for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:22:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09023B00FD for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so428876ugb for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.216.20 with SMTP id o20mr5562584ugg.1171804948675; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.12.91? ( [193.172.12.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 53sm7468874ugn.2007.02.18.05.22.26; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:22:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-224204090 Message-Id: From: David Convent Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:22:12 +0100 To: LeeTambiah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:22:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-224204090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. > I agree the are too many items for this to work, the tabs also need =20= > to be more defined, check Ubuntu website to see what sort of size =20 > and effect should be applied. Perhaps we should apply this approach =20= > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png. To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a =20 navigationbar=85 --Apple-Mail-1-224204090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252
    It'll never fit at 800 with that many = items.
    I agree the are too many items for = this to work, the tabs also need to be more defined, check Ubuntu = website to see what sort of size and effect should be applied. Perhaps = we should apply this approach http://i61.photobucket.com/alb= ums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png.
    = To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a = navigationbar=85

    = --Apple-Mail-1-224204090-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 10:49:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89A23B00F6 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:49:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.225 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.225 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2634 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.176] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13MeaoCq-FjL for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15A43B00C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so726364pye for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr11734712pyj.1171813754770; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.42.5 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:49:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:49:14 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Quim Gil" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19575_10266244.1171813754700" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <46324.130.225.184.24.1166398492.squirrel@correu.epsem.upc.edu> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:49:22 -0000 ------=_Part_19575_10266244.1171813754700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/18/07, Quim Gil wrote: > > Ramon, have you installed the GNOME Products engine? > > Suggestion (if it's technically feasible): let's customize now this > Plone app to our needs, leaving the DOAP thing for the next release > cycle. It's possible, but depends on what do you want to customize. I suggest putting it up and generating a list of things to change/do and see what is feasible and what isn't (and where we should do that, also). As I repeatedly stated, DOAP is quite trivial to implement: I already made a doap_feed that exports some attributes. The only headache might be the integration with LinguaPlone. Btw, would also be cool if Simon can check a "live" version of my prototype: however it just exports a couple of attributes, I want to be sure I'm doing things the right way. PS Could be better if we can update the doap-branch as of tonight, when I'll be uploading some changes -- > Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_19575_10266244.1171813754700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    On 2/18/07, Quim Gil <qgil@gnome.org> wrote:
    Ramon, have you installed the GNOME Products engine?

    Suggestion (if it's technically feasible): let's customize now this
    Plone app to our needs, leaving the DOAP thing for the next release
    cycle.

    It's possible, but depends on what do you want to customize. I suggest putting it up and generating a list of things to change/do and see what is feasible and what isn't (and where we should do that, also).
    As I repeatedly stated, DOAP is quite trivial to implement: I already made a doap_feed that exports some attributes. The only headache might be the integration with LinguaPlone.

    Btw, would also be cool if Simon can check a "live" version of my prototype: however it just exports a couple of attributes, I want to be sure I'm doing things the right way.

    PS Could be better if we can update the doap-branch as of tonight, when I'll be uploading some changes

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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_19575_10266244.1171813754700-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 10:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8143B0172 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:53:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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(up: 4947 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.227] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4eMpH7xLdd5q for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B553B00C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1542632wxc for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.84.6 with SMTP id h6mr9489438wxb.1171819726491; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [216.254.68.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h17sm11054864wxd.2007.02.18.09.28.43; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:28:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45D88CC5.4080305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:28:37 -0500 From: Ricky Zhou User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:28:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Joachim wrote: > Like I said the other day, the font-size of 76% set on the body element > needs to be increased or removed. As I noted in the CSS, font-size: 76% was to supposedly get the base font size consistent throughout most browsers (perhaps I should have cited the source - http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/ in my comment). To make font size changes, I'd recommend setting it in ex in #wrapper instead. (yes, I switched from em to ex after reading this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Em_vs._ex) > It'll never fit at 800 with that many items. I completely agree. Having so much text (and so many links) on one line is probably bad for readability/usability too. - -Ricky -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF2IzFiXbZ7NjlUcARAv/LAJwJWiiJ03etxKQR7qQA5sNOCkBxPQCcC2yY DJdri69YlmHCFJjFrT4Y99M= =PRzo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From leetambiah@ossgeeks.co.uk Sun Feb 18 12:52:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BA73B00FF for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.147 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.317, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_50_60=0.134, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) (NAT!), (distance 19, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [83.138.142.194] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LEwNYH+3jPC9 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk (ganesha.netexplorers.co.uk [83.138.142.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C63B01AA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22274 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2007 17:51:02 +0000 Received: from 62-30-117-58.cable.ubr03.perr.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (62.30.117.58) by netexplorers.co.uk with SMTP; 18 Feb 2007 17:51:02 +0000 Message-ID: <45D89220.6030302@ossgeeks.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:51:28 +0000 From: LeeTambiah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702180138t63f21cb2gd3ec1e3be02cf90@mail.gmail.com> <45D84048.5060600@ossgeeks.co.uk> <2ab6fe210702180753j2a30188ft5d5fc5ca0375f2a5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702180753j2a30188ft5d5fc5ca0375f2a5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010103090407080305080005" Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:52:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010103090407080305080005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Simone Deponti wrote: > > To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a > navigationbar… > > > I'm all in favor for the introduction of a breadcrumb or a side menu > like the original plone one, maybe starting from the 3rd level only. > As I repeatedly stated, I'm concerned there might be navigational > issues if we just rely on the tab-bar and the secondary navbar. Ah, what i mean is have the categories on the right hand side of the page as menu. When user clicks "about" the right hand menu would show links relating to the about tab for example. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > --------------010103090407080305080005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Simone Deponti wrote:
    To me what you suggest there is more a breadcrumbs bar than a navigationbar…

    I'm all in favor for the introduction of a breadcrumb or a side menu like the original plone one, maybe starting from the 3rd level only. As I repeatedly stated, I'm concerned there might be navigational issues if we just rely on the tab-bar and the secondary navbar.
    Ah, what i mean is have the categories on the right hand side of the page as menu. When user clicks "about" the right hand menu would show links relating to the about tab for example.

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    --------------010103090407080305080005-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 14:29:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5193B00F4 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2638 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.182] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R3Lq3oJAiHMe for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8F33B012C for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so746452pye for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.17.12 with SMTP id u12mr6653340pyi.1171826972741; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.42.5 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:29:32 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <46324.130.225.184.24.1166398492.squirrel@correu.epsem.upc.edu> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:29:39 -0000 ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done. We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone correctly as of now). To view the source http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, to checkout it through SVN http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support . It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works). I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done.
    We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone correctly as of now).
    To view the source http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, to checkout it through SVN http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support.

    It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works).

    I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop.


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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_20866_20475316.1171826972689-- From luis.villa@gmail.com Sun Feb 18 15:22:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDE13B0008 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.575 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5471 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.204.238] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qV+4yU7+JPSH for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136DB3B01C5 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id e6so1378904qbe for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr2646311wad.1171830146495; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.174.16 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:22:26 -0500 From: "Luis Villa" To: "GNOME web" Subject: FYI In-Reply-To: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:22:31 -0000 Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. Luis From nisses.mail@home.se Sun Feb 18 17:33:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE763B0087 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.531 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.791, BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 1331 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.9.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AzdB5TcStuVC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE63B006A for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DAA5D380F2; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55137F41; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58337E47; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:33:00 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luis Villa Subject: Re: FYI References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:33:22 -0000 Luis Villa wrote: > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. > Totally. Anything else we can add while we're on it? - Andreas From jcspray@icculus.org Mon Feb 19 12:50:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE1B3B00A1 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_WV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 1190 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [67.106.77.212] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9NtN5APVm4fc for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from icculus.org (icculus.org [67.106.77.212]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1210A3B000C for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23857 invoked by uid 305); 19 Feb 2007 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from jcspray@icculus.org by gamehenge by uid 305 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. 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(jcspray@129.215.76.30) by icculus.org with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2007 12:49:16 -0500 Subject: viewcvs exception From: John Spray To: webmaster@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:50:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1171907426.9732.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:43:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:50:36 -0000 Hi, When trying to access http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomemm/gnome-vfsmm/trunk/libgnomevfs/src/ I get """ An Exception Has Occurred Python Traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 3732, in main request.run_viewvc() File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 387, in run_viewvc self.view_func(self) File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 1707, in view_directory data = common_template_data(request) File "/var/www/viewcvs-web/lib/viewvc.py", line 1042, in common_template_data data = { KeyError: """ The parent directories seemed to be working fine, only got this exception when I drilled down a bit. Regards, John From newren@gmail.com Mon Feb 19 15:35:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD33B007F for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7371 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.243] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F4VYF3iKa2CM for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90823B00A7 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so249263ana for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr3063365waf.1171917303256; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.209.4 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:34:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:34:58 -0700 From: "Elijah Newren" To: "Andreas Nilsson" Subject: Re: FYI In-Reply-To: <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> Cc: Luis Villa , GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:35:12 -0000 On 2/18/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Luis Villa wrote: > > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under > > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. > > > Totally. > Anything else we can add while we're on it? Could we link to http://live.gnome.org/Schedule from "Upcoming Events" text on that page? (That page is a bit more developer oriented, including reminding of freezes and such, so the text from that page probably doesn't belong on GNOME's front page. But a link would be nice) From nisses.mail@home.se Mon Feb 19 17:49:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703F3B000C for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 2880 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.8.184] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZwTZAWEsg13 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9273B0009 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 64E2138274; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC8D381C4; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0405F37E45; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DA2961.8090005@home.se> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:49:05 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elijah Newren Subject: Re: FYI References: <2cb10c440702181143m67d0e30q66d8848e1fbb37e2@mail.gmail.com> <2cb10c440702181222xe0aead6o25b5cc124abf920@mail.gmail.com> <45D8D41C.4090705@home.se> <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51419b2c0702191234r7a5ca049p54ae8b91303d7fc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Luis Villa , GNOME web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:49:13 -0000 Elijah Newren wrote: > On 2/18/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> Luis Villa wrote: >> > Might be good to pimp GUADEC 2007 and not Boston Summit 2006 under >> > 'upcoming events' on www.gnome.org. >> > >> Totally. >> Anything else we can add while we're on it? > > Could we link to http://live.gnome.org/Schedule from "Upcoming Events" > text on that page? (That page is a bit more developer oriented, > including reminding of freezes and such, so the text from that page > probably doesn't belong on GNOME's front page. But a link would be > nice) Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! This is the text Thomas is going to put on the website when he gets back from Iceland. Please shout and correct me, those who find any spelling mistakes or just plain lies! :) Do it quick though. I want this baby up now! ---------------- GNOME @ FOSDEM 2007 GNOME Developers from all across Europe get together to meet old friends, discuss new technologies and other GNOME related stuff in the GNOME Developer Room (H1302) at the FOSDEM Conferencef. On Sunday morning, the devroom will be used as a joint GNOME and KDE devroom to get together hackers of both communities on subject of interest to both groups More information can be found in the GNOME wiki GUADEC 2007 July 15-21, 2007; Birmingham UK At the annual European GNOME Conference, GNOME hackers from all across the globe will gather and show off new cool technologies, party and discuss the future direction of the project. Keynote speakers include Ubuntu Community manager Jono Bacon, kernel hacker Robert Love, Alex Graveley of Tomboy and Gimmie fame and Nokia embedded rockstar Ari Jaaksi! Do you have anything interesting to show the rest of the GNOME Community? Send in your talk proposal before Monday 12th March. ---------------- From duffy@redhat.com Tue Feb 20 01:59:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777F13B0084; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 6103 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pM+cQYNLwjwa; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC703B0012; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1K6xR1Z001657; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1K6xRUD005698; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.10] (vpn-248-10.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.10]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1K6xQ0M027707; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:27 -0500 Message-ID: <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:59:21 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:59:33 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > *** GNOME bar (black at the top) > - We can consider it a stable beta. > - Look&feel works, URLs work. > - Still open to improvements but it can be released as it is now. +1 > *** wgo primary bar (the tabs) > - Still missing tabs, I will add them. > - I think the eyes notice first the secondary bar and consider it more > relevant. Tabs should be bigger, perhaphs brighter. Bolder fonts? > Also, the fact that is aligned to the right helps its non-visibility > next to the secondary bar. > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees > clearly where she is. Do you need artwork for this? I can export some sliced artwork for this out of the SVG work I have. > - The tab of the current section could have no border to the secondary > nav bar, this way we have a single navigation bar, so to say. This way > we also avoid having to duplicate items in primary and secondary. Now > "Take the tour" appears twice. > - Clicking to a tab should bring the user automatically to the page. > If I click to the "Take the tour" tab I should get the content. Now > http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/take-the-tour/ is an index. +1 > *** wgo secondary bar (the bar below the tabs) > - Fonts are also small (like happens generally in all the plone wgo), > they need to be bigger. > - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so > users know where they are. +1, I can export artwork slices for this too if needed. > - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning > and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of > the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of > the last tab in the primary nav bar. Do you want to try it with a little bevel on the far left and far right? > - Can we save some horizontal space between text and borders of each > item? This way we have a shorter bar, which will help making fit the > Take the Tour section in one line. Getting a second line i.e. in > 800x600 is not that bad, I think. Better than forcing horizontal > scrolling, as many websites do. I'm using 1024x768 and 4 items spill over into a second level of the secondary nav bar. I kind of think this is just way too much content. There are a couple of different approaches you could take: First one - each of the pages is a nice, small, digestable chunk of text. Could the tour be treated a little separately than other content in plone, eg., could it have its own special navbar (maybe a sidebar?), and be designed with more of a 'wizard' format (something you walk through step-by-step from beginning to end, so you'd click "next" and "back") rather than a normal site format (where you don't necessarily go through every page or go through everything in order)? Second one - Maybe there is a better way to organize the different parts of the tour? E.g., right now it looks like: - Take the tour - redundant. Looks like the introductory text that should be displayed with the first-level 'take the tour' tab. - Simply Powerful & Essential Tools - these two share a similar theme and I think could be combined - Windows/Mac - not sure what this is about, doesn't seem to have content - Multilingual - if Windows/Mac talks about compatibility across OSs, this could be related - compatibility across languages - Standarized - not sure, no content yet, but maybe combined with the other two above - Shipped by... - basically a distro list. - Deployments - example deployments im sure - Development & Innovation - seem like they could go together - Community - Free! I would suggest revising this to: - "What you need" - Simply Powerful & Essential Tools - "Speaks your Language" - Multilingual content, standardization? - "Ahead of the Curve" - development & innovation - "All about People" - community, deployments, shipped by (people involved in the community + demonstrating 'who' uses it, including distros and deployments') - "Free" Then you go from 12 nav items to 5. I don't think you really want anymore than 5-7 nav items on any one level. It's just too overwhelming cognitively to have more than that, especially considering the number of navigation bars already. ~m From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 20 16:04:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989C33B01E2 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7616 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.250] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sn1KjlQ04otC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279703B002C for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so514336ana for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.1 with SMTP id s1mr3495557wae.1172005446801; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:04:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:04:06 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a1460472ed98c001 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:04:12 -0000 On 2/20/07, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: > > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees > > clearly where she is. > > Do you need artwork for this? Sure thing > > - Current page should be highlighted in the secondary nav bar, so > > users know where they are. > > +1, I can export artwork slices for this too if needed. Please > > - I'm unconvinced about the fact that the bar doesn have a beginning > > and end. Perhaps it would look better if starting at the left edge of > > the big GNOME logo in the header and finishing at the right edge of > > the last tab in the primary nav bar. > > Do you want to try it with a little bevel on the far left and far right? Whatever you find it's best, as far as it has edges. > First one - each of the pages is a nice, small, digestable chunk of > text. This is the kind of tour we want to have. > Could the tour be treated a little separately than other content > in plone, eg., could it have its own special navbar (maybe a sidebar?), That was the idea. Note that in the original plan the "Take the tour" section had other pages apart from the tour thing (screenshots and screencasts, or something like that. Since we are short of time and resources the tour has gone up one level, and this is why now the 10 pages are appearing in the secondary bar, which wasn part of the plan. > and be designed with more of a 'wizard' format (something you walk > through step-by-step from beginning to end, so you'd click "next" and > "back") rather than a normal site format (where you don't necessarily go > through every page or go through everything in order)? Yes. Having a sidebar with 1-2 words for each page + tiny icon could be neat and could help users going through the tour (you see how many pages, you know where you are, you know what topic comes next...). This could be compatible with next-back. This sidebar is not a long navigation bar but a short table of contents. > Second one - Maybe there is a better way to organize the different parts > of the tour? As it is planned now each page moves 1 concept can be solved with i.e. 2 paragraphs + 1 big icon coming from the GNOME collection + 1 background probably out there as well. If we merge concepts we have more complexity, more text, more ideas around, more confusion. A less comfortable tour. --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From davconvent@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 10:52:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D13B01D9 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5017 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.234] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04-DxZtDPrwU for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E33B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so206446wra for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.198.1 with SMTP id v1mr308137waf.1172159529754; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.95.11 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:52:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:52:09 +0100 From: "david convent" To: "gnome web" Subject: plone template customization bad practices to avoid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:52:18 -0000 ------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi to all people who work on the gnometheme product that adds the Gnome Theme to a Plone portal. While working on the refactoring of the second navbar, I noticed some practices that must be avoided when customizing original Plone templates. I take as examples the global_sections.pt and global_siteactions.pt templates: in global_sections: - in the customized template, a lot of space characters and end of lines have been removed. This is bad because for two reasons: First: it makes it difficult for contributors to identify the changes that have been applied to the customized file when comparing them in a text editor Second: it makes quite impossible to have something readable/usable if we perform a diff -u between the original file and its customization. The diff command is very important when we need to adapt the customized template to a Plone version that has a modified version of the original one= . I strongly recommend to keep the customized file layout as close as possible to the original one if we want a product that is future proof and contributor friendly. - The title of the section (
    Sections
    ) has been removed in the customization. I goes against accessibility, for blind people and for people that use = a text-only browser. I recommend to keep those titles, and make them invisible for modern browsers by using the CSS 'display: none;' directive. Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been written while keeping accessibility rules in mind, it would be a shame to destroy that just because we are lazy enough not to write a few CSS lines. in global_siteactions.pt: The only change that I see between the original file and its customization is the modification of the (CSS) id of the macro: it's been changed from portal-sitactions to foobar. the original markup in Plone was studied to be designer friendly, with semantic ids and classes. I wonder what motivated such change to a non semantic markup. isn't it possible to keep the original markup and use it in the stylesheets? I know it's a word play about footer bar (foo=85bar) but this doesn't look useful at all and not future proof at all (do we really want to take care o= f that template when it will change in a future Plone version, only because a CSS id was changed for fun?). Hope to have been of constructive criticism, David ------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi to all people who work on the gnometheme product that adds the Gnome The= me to a Plone portal.

    While working on the refactoring of the second= navbar, I noticed some practices that must be avoided when customizing ori= ginal Plone templates.

    I take as examples the global_sections.pt and global_siteactions.pt= templates:

    in global_sections:

    - in the customized template,= a lot of space characters and end of lines have been removed.
     &nb= sp;  This is bad because for two reasons:
        First: it makes it difficult for contributors to ide= ntify the changes that have been applied to the customized file when compar= ing them in a text editor
        Second: it makes quite impo= ssible to have something readable/usable if we perform a diff -u between th= e original file and its customization.
        The diff command is very important when we need to a= dapt the customized template to a Plone version that has a modified version= of the original one.
        I strongly recommend to keep th= e customized file layout as close as possible to the original one if we wan= t a product that is future proof and contributor friendly.

    - The title of the section (<h5>Sections</h5>) has been= removed in the customization.
        I goes against accessi= bility, for blind people and for people that use a text-only browser.
    &n= bsp;   I recommend to keep those titles, and make them invisible = for modern browsers by using the CSS 'display: none;' directive.
        Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it'= s been written while keeping accessibility rules in mind, it would be a sha= me to destroy that just because we are lazy enough not to write a few CSS l= ines.


    in global_siteactions.pt:

    The only change that I see between= the original file and its customization is the modification of the (CSS) i= d of the macro: it's been changed from portal-sitactions to foobar.
    the original markup in Plone was studied to be designer friendly, with = semantic ids and classes.
    I wonder what motivated such change to a non s= emantic markup. isn't it possible to keep the original markup and use i= t in the stylesheets?
    I know it's a word play about footer bar (foo=85bar) but this doesn= 't look useful at all and not future proof at all (do we really want to= take care of that template when it will change in a future Plone version, = only because a CSS id was changed for fun?).


    Hope to have been of constructive criticism,
    David
    ------=_Part_30778_25960364.1172159529723-- From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 13:57:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C73B0081 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:57:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6832 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.171] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0r1MDVF5qYZd for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BC53B007B for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so177161ugb for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr450376wae.1172170611589; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:56:51 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "david convent" Subject: Re: plone template customization bad practices to avoid In-Reply-To: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dff761382ebe1140 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:57:04 -0000 Thanks for these comments. I'm with you. Now everything is quite flexible and it's understandable to find quick solutions in order to get i.e. quick mockups to move forwards. However, since we are progressinbg so slowly at least the advantage we should take from this is to develop something to last and provide a flexible, easy to manage evolution. On 2/22/07, david convent wrote: > Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been written > while keeping accessibility rules in mind, Same with GNOME in the desktop world. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 15:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8253B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6834 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.175] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wvUQfjm8dPRE for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB62B3B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so195335ugb for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.76.1 with SMTP id d1mr480437wal.1172175163675; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:12:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221212m460f972dqd5a40c537ea7bdb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:12:43 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: Joachim Subject: Re: [wgo] Tuning one page In-Reply-To: <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702041308r44741904md0162efb8c8f7da9@mail.gmail.com> <6cd2ce8c0702041357q24b7a250yff61b6f12b9ccc33@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4d6bf01630b0b247 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:12:55 -0000 What is stopping us from signing off a collection of font families and sized to be used in wgo? http://www.gnome.org/ - http://yahoo.com - http://cnn.com/ - http://www.apple.com/ Can we take these sites as a reference? I think they are showing a good collection of font sizes. On 2/4/07, Joachim wrote: > > > On 2/4/07, Quim Gil wrote: > > (snipping lots of stuff I agree with) > > > - We need to agree the font type and size. The current one looks too > > small, do you agree? > > Yes, it's too small. > There's a bit of an issue here, which I hope doesn't turn into a massive > debate like the XHTML. > Basically, for reasons of accessibility and sheer politeness to the user, > web pages shouldn't reset the based font-size. They should assume that the > default body text size is what the user is comfortable reading. > However, because all browsers have set this slightly too large, and because > few users actually know how to or bother to change it, most sites that want > to look cool and groovy (mea culpa) reduce this, usually to 80%. > So we now have a sort of mess across the web, where if you do choose to > reduce your default font size, lots of sites will need a microscope to read. > > I note that our existing gnome.org site does the Right Thing, though it's > slightly smaller on my screen than if I set the plone site to 100%. Not sure > why that is. > -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 15:57:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90B3B00D0 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7190 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.90.180] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N-y67SBK4lnK for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EF13B00BC for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c29so131932ika for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.72.1 with SMTP id u1mr492724waa.1172177839107; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702221257m2871eafay8769d378da1964dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:57:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Fwd: Writers (and copypasters) for the wgo revamp In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702221255m364049fduc965bb1e71906f6b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702221255m364049fduc965bb1e71906f6b@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a35bef3328b31942 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:57:25 -0000 It's not a secret that we need urgent help to achieve the wgo revamp goals by the GNOME 2.18 release. Now and then we get help offers from web designers or coders. The sad truth is though, that what we desperately need is people able to write plain English, and even go to simpler tasks like doing appropriate copy&paste work from the current www.gnome.org. We are in SALE and I'm happy providing the simplest interface for collaboration: * Reply (to me better than the whole list) telling which page from the new wgo structure you want to write. * No preference? I will choose one page for you. A link to your texts will help. * You will be able to send the text by email, no list/wiki/CMS hassle. * After that, the Glory. If you want more, there will be more. We have about 40 pages and 2 weeks. Ali Baba, do the maths. (Also posted at http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/338 ) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From davconvent@gmail.com Thu Feb 22 18:45:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1503B00DA for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2036 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.187] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pkibVdXKsGWd for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379A3B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so681622nfc for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.223.11 with SMTP id v11mr4690014nfg.1172187943452; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27sm7395508nfa.2007.02.22.15.45.41; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:45:42 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> References: <5555f3ef0702220752q62bbe4c0qdaeefd17ce9e1818@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702221056q422649f9v3f73f7520cc38166@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <49CBBA57-CF69-46E8-B44B-5E66677C40BB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: plone template customization bad practices to avoid Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:45:29 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:45:50 -0000 Oh, I forgot to mention that I volunteer to fix the templates where I see fit. Sorry for the foobar word play removal from the html layout, but it would have added one file we'd have to take care of in the future, this is unnecessary. Let's make the work of the Gnome Theme future maintainers as easy as possible. This is done with friendliness, no offense should be taken here. David On 22 Feb 2007, at 19:56, Quim Gil wrote: > Thanks for these comments. I'm with you. Now everything is quite > flexible and it's understandable to find quick solutions in order to > get i.e. quick mockups to move forwards. However, since we are > progressinbg so slowly at least the advantage we should take from this > is to develop something to last and provide a flexible, easy to manage > evolution. > > On 2/22/07, david convent wrote: > >> Plone is very well rated in the CMS world because it's been >> written >> while keeping accessibility rules in mind, > > Same with GNOME in the desktop world. > > -- > Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From thilopfennig@foresightlinux.org Thu Feb 22 20:40:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650453B0072 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.247 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5027 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.225] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWzEgh7pNDIW for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A795A3B0011 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so351283wra for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.54.1 with SMTP id g1mr612536wak.1172194793738; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.4 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:39:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:39:53 +0100 From: "Thilo Pfennig" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org Subject: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:40:00 -0000 ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I have started to work out some plan for the projects ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was not started yet. I like to know how we will distinguish this. I would like to know what the status of the Plone Software Center is and how the projects page shuld relate t the product page (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/GnomeProducts). my guess is this the Plone guys are working on the module? I understand the structure like this: * Products (these are core GNOME applications, free software which are hosted all over the world) * Projects (so this can not be the same - I think this should rather be ONLY the applications that are hosted on WGO. If not I really see not much sense in two pages) I also could imagine that one links other projects on this. As there are the different teams. But this could be mixed but with "Get involved" What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined project pages (software or not). What I am missing often are links to standard pages that should be on the same spot (that would be mailing lists, direct link to bugzilla, maybe news, screenshot,...). Not sure if these project pages have already been thought about or anybody works on this. If not maybe somebody would like to try to make a mockup based on what we have here http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/ http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ and the new design (w header)? I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really does not help so much for our pages. I think GNOME itself is our main product/project - and everything else is a sub project - these are more or less far away from the GNOME core. What we should not do is to link away from GNOME.org in 1st or 2nd level of wgo. So rather have some standard pages for externaly hosted projects like Abiword and then link from these pages. I think the project pages itself do not need to be moved before GNOME 2.18 Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the new CMS. We can move them step by step with rewrites, so that all old projects will still be visible (thats how I would do it, but thats on the sysadmin team to decide) Any thoughts, comments, suggestions? regards, Thilo BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is coming people tend to have less time, so maybe web restructuring would be better at half-time of a release. I am not a developer - thats just a guess. Personally I dont like different projects to have the same deadline. -- Thilo Pfennig http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,
    I have started to work out some plan for the projects (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was not started yet. I like to know how we will distinguish this. I would like to  know what the status  of the  Plone Software Center is and how the projects page shuld relate t the product page ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/GnomeProducts). my guess is this the Plone guys are working on the module?

    I understand the structure like this:

     * Products (these are core GNOME applications, free software which are hosted all over the world)
     * Projects (so this can not be the same - I think this should rather be ONLY the applications that are hosted on WGO. If not I really see not much sense in two pages)

    I also could imagine that one links other projects on this. As there are the different teams. But this could be mixed but with "Get involved"

    What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined project pages (software or not). What I am missing often are links to standard pages that should be on the same spot (that would be mailing lists, direct link to bugzilla, maybe news, screenshot,...).  Not sure if these  project pages have already been thought about or anybody works on this. If not maybe somebody would like to try to make a mockup based on what we have here http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/ http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ and the new design (w header)?

    I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really does not help so much for our pages. I think GNOME itself is our main product/project - and everything else is a sub project - these are more or less far away from the GNOME core. What we should not do is to link away from GNOME.org in 1st or 2nd level of wgo. So rather have some standard pages for externaly hosted projects like Abiword and then link from these pages. I think the project pages itself do not need to be moved before GNOME 2.18

    Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the new CMS. We can move them step by step with rewrites, so that all old projects will still be visible (thats how I would do it, but thats on the sysadmin team to decide)

    Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

    regards,

    Thilo


    BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is coming people tend to have less time, so maybe web restructuring would be better at half-time of a release. I am not a developer - thats just a guess. Personally I dont like different projects to have the same deadline.

    --
    Thilo Pfennig
    http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_40397_19763022.1172194793690-- From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Fri Feb 23 06:27:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698273B0097 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 11588 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.51] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9AYVtAgiZ27n for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B773B008D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by violet.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1NBRHJV032740; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:18 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2267FAC6; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w8z6IaTFHc-t; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.242] (agulla.upc.es [147.83.101.211]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD5FA93; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DECF95.7050903@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:17 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Teague Subject: Re: Safari References: <6cd2ce8c0702110904jd1fe782yef9c9c9b0b9d0e52@mail.gmail.com> <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> In-Reply-To: <3FC51525-0084-4481-9250-AAA95D03A2F5@bud.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:27:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:27:31 -0000 En/na Kevin Teague ha escrit: > The current gnome #page Selector has this declaration: > > overflow: hidden; > > Safari seems to interpret the default width for this div as being > very small :( > > There are two fixes that I've just tested that could work: > > 1. Remove the overflow property from the #page Selector. > > 2. Add a width property to the #page Selector, this works on Safari > and Firefox on Mac for me: > > width: 100%; > I added this on #page css ( overflow: hidden is for IE6 ) Can you try ? on Konqueror it was working before ( so it's only safari issue ) Ramon From ramon@epsem.upc.edu Fri Feb 23 06:50:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFF43B0119 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 376 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [147.83.2.50] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qR8laTtznGM7 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dash.upc.es (dash.upc.es [147.83.2.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C9D3B00BF for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es (collbaix2.upc.es [147.83.101.60]) by dash.upc.es (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1NBo8bA012965; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D0FD5F; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from collbaix2.upc.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (collbaix2.upc.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WuObcni-EFl9; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.242] (agulla.upc.es [147.83.101.211]) by collbaix2.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6290FD5D; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:47:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 From: Ramon Navarro Bosch User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <46324.130.225.184.24.1166398492.squirrel@correu.epsem.upc.edu> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (dash.upc.es [147.83.2.50]); Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:50:08 +0100 (CET) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:50:16 -0000 PloneSoftwareCenter installed on wgo, I need to tune it ( categories , ... ) and Simone needs to some some bug issues. Ramon En/na Simone Deponti ha escrit: > Ok, there is a fairly working version of PSC doap-support branch on > svn. We're still missing some attributes but I guess we're 70% done. > We still have to solve LinguaPlone's headache, but might not be as bad > as it sounds (we only have to translate Title, id and description > probably: the main matter is that PSC doesn't support LinguaPlone > correctly as of now). > To view the source > http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support, > to checkout it through SVN > http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/PloneSoftwareCenter/branches/doap-support. > > It does have some issues that are mainly related to PSC skins itself, > so it looks horribly and some pages gives an error. Note that I also > had to add a method to root.py. That can probably be done through > adapters, but it wasn't all that simple (due to some peculiarities on > how the methods are invoked, I am not sure if it works). > > I guess we can upload it on dev and see what happens: it worked > perfectly (skinning aside) on my laptop. > > > -- > Simone Deponti > ------------------------------------------- > - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? > - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list > From shywolf9982@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 07:17:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946373B000D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.804 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.804 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2751 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZOejuu6PMf6E for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DCE3B00BF for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so259513pye for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr3934397pyj.1172233019516; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:16:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:16:59 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: PloneSoftwareCenter roadmap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:17:35 -0000 ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like to invent words of my own). Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that actually are seen in PSC trunk. Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I say, quite loud. That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk and not in doap-branch. Actually the doap_feed has no multilingual implementation, it means it doesn't actually search for the canonical translation, use that as object and export the attributes with the xml:lang attribute. For what concerns the attribute, I'll give you the DOAP vocabulary and the status of each export, plus my notes name (implemented) shortname (implemented) homepage* (implemented) old-homepage* (skipped, we have no such attribute in PSC and it didn't seem the case to me to go back in Zope's undo to get it if existed, not at this point anyway) created (skipped too, I have a creation date, but doesn't really says me when the project was created (just the PSC entry) and PSC doesn't actually store the date creation project) description (implemented with HTML strip) shortdesc (implemented) category (implemented, but I actually return the category as the $portal_url/by-category/$category. DOAP isn't much clear on what the category really is) wiki (okay, I supposed here the doap drafter meant "generical documentation url") bug-database (implemented) screenshots (sorta implemented. DOAP wants me to give a screenshot folder, but PSC just allows you to put in ONE screenshot and marking it as that, so i return that) mailing-list (implemented) programming-language (I was going to use the comaptibility field that gives us the compatible Plone versions, but I deleted this. Ofcourse PSc supposes everything is done in Python ;)) os (implemented, currently in refactoring, but I have to dig down to downloadable file to get that information, then assemble the info. First brain damage of DOAP imho, cause we lose info about what versions support which os, eg 1.0 might support every os while 1.99beta only Linux) license (implemented, currently in refactoring, same considerations of os) download-page (not implemented) download-mirror (not implemented) repository (implemented) release (not implemented) maintainer (not implemented) developer (not implemented) documenter (not implemented) translator (not implemented) helper (not implemented) I don't think it will take much and that by the start of next week I can have all the remaining attributes in the feed. Then we can merge it back into trunk and proceed fixing visual bugs and give it a gnome skin. Regards -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all

    A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like to invent words of my own).

    Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that actually are seen in PSC trunk.
    Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I say, quite loud.
    That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk and not in doap-branch.

    Actually the doap_feed has no multilingual implementation, it means it doesn't actually search for the canonical translation, use that as object and export the attributes with the xml:lang attribute.

    For what concerns the attribute, I'll give you the DOAP vocabulary and the status of each export, plus my notes

    name (implemented)
    shortname (implemented)
    homepage* (implemented)
    old-homepage* (skipped, we have no such attribute in PSC and it didn't seem the case to me to go back in Zope's undo to get it if existed, not at this point anyway)
    created (skipped too, I have a creation date, but doesn't really says me when the project was created (just the PSC entry) and PSC doesn't actually store the date creation project)
    description (implemented with HTML strip)
    shortdesc (implemented)
    category (implemented, but I actually return the category as the $portal_url/by-category/$category. DOAP isn't much clear on what the category really is)
    wiki (okay, I supposed here the doap drafter meant "generical documentation url")
    bug-database (implemented)
    screenshots (sorta implemented. DOAP wants me to give a screenshot folder, but PSC just allows you to put in ONE screenshot and marking it as that, so i return that)
    mailing-list (implemented)
    programming-language (I was going to use the comaptibility field that gives us the compatible Plone versions, but I deleted this. Ofcourse PSc supposes everything is done in Python ;))
    os (implemented, currently in refactoring, but I have to dig down to downloadable file to get that information, then assemble the info. First brain damage of DOAP imho, cause we lose info about what versions support which os, eg 1.0 might support every os while 1.99beta only Linux)
    license (implemented, currently in refactoring, same considerations of os)
    download-page (not implemented)
    download-mirror (not implemented)
    repository (implemented)
    release (not implemented)
    maintainer (not implemented)
    developer (not implemented)
    documenter (not implemented)
    translator (not implemented)
    helper (not implemented)

    I don't think it will take much and that by the start of next week I can have all the remaining attributes in the feed. Then we can merge it back into trunk and proceed fixing visual bugs and give it a gnome skin.

    Regards

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_16911_18602137.1172233019475-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Fri Feb 23 14:01:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1153B0247 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 503 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BBNGlK5KP0Bu for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A893B0157 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HKff0-0004hf-KU for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:00:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter roadmap Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:00:17 +0000 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702230416j4883fcd8h15375593f84b443@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:01:21 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello all > > A quick update on the status of PSC gnomifization (yeah, I know, I like > to invent words of my own). > > Currently, the doap-branch of PSC has a fairly working doap_feed > template that tries to export PSC data into DOAP format: however, being > based and synced with PSC trunk, suffers from all the problems that > actually are seen in PSC trunk. > Actually the PSC "core" is complete and functional, but there are still > issues with views and templates and sadly those errors are, how can I > say, quite loud. > That's also why PSC is generally giving the impression of a badly broken > product upon installation. The bugs aren't exactly terrible, and can be > fixed in quite few time, the problem is that we should do this in trunk > and not in doap-branch. You may want to hook up with George Lee who's working on PSC trunk and see if you can pool resources. Martin From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 14:16:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C93D3B0165 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 262 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.235] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7PxtZCayUP+a for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6C3B01D3 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so705039wri for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr1187658waf.1172258202572; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:16:42 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Thilo Pfennig" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 35f18105933fc8d1 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:16:53 -0000 Hi, On 2/23/07, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Hi, > I have started to work out some plan for the projects > (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages) as this was > not started yet. Cool. Take in account though all we discussed last year, which was a lot. The latest status was this diagram: http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/286 VERY IMPORTANT: in your email there is an apparent confusion between GNOME Products and Projects. They are different things, completely. - Products: cute and brief pages summarizing the greatness and features of SOFTWARE. A wgo section edited by marketing team with the collaboration of the developers behind each component/application (hopefully with some DOAP magic to optimize maintenance). Translated into wgo languages. - Projects: subsites where PEOPLE publish, document, collaborate and develop software products. under wgo/projects in the current structure, under projects.gnome.org during the 2.19 release cycle unless Jeff throw us an H-Bomb or we get stuck again. Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else than offer support (if they want it). There is a projects index to be improved. Translations are responsibility of each project (most are in English only) and we don't set any policy about which CMS to use etc. We can help to those willing to join the Plone platform, but we won push anybody. We have also - Teams: your are mixing them also in your email. GNOME teams are Accessibility, Marketing, Usability, Release, Documentation... Something completely different to Projects and to Products. > What I really would find important for the future would be more streamlined > project pages (software or not). Now I not sure if you are talking about the planned GNOME Products (which will be more streamlined) or project subsites (where there is no common policy, but offering a checklist with recommendations would help them). > I have read again the threads about gnomefiles.org but I think this really > does not help so much for our pages. The gnomefiles feeds will go in the GNOME Products page, this is planned and decided. > Another open question is if we should have a subdomain or not. My suggestion > would be for now that we NOW just try to move every page in /projects to the > new CMS. Yes to projects.g.o subdomain, No to move projects websites to the new CMS, unless a project comes by their own initiative looking for CMS help. > BTW: I think maybe it would be better if web structure and GNOME releases > would not be synced because my feeling is that expecially when a release is > coming people tend to have less time, If we would have followed the schedule now all the tough wirk would be done and we wiould be doing just betatest and related fixes. After 1,5 years following discussions and works about the wgo revamp I remember seeing just very few component maintainers, core developers. Also, the schedule proposed is about last deadlines, if someone wants to start earlier and finish earlier nobody is going to stop her. By now the problem is not about schedules, but about resources. At least this is how I see it. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Fri Feb 23 15:53:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290803B0165 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME=0.224, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6858 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.173] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hNvPKt6E-F33 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2EF3B0092 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so432898ugb for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr1218614waj.1172263977008; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:52:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702231252i78dca49dx692976a65ac2f047@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:52:56 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7dda1b0b4311358 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:53:04 -0000 T24gMi8xOC8wNywgUXVpbSBHaWwgPHFnaWxAZ25vbWUub3JnPiB3cm90ZToKPiAtIENsaWNraW5n IHRvIGEgdGFiIHNob3VsZCBicmluZyB0aGUgdXNlciBhdXRvbWF0aWNhbGx5IHRvIHRoZSBwYWdl Lgo+IElmIEkgY2xpY2sgdG8gdGhlICJUYWtlIHRoZSB0b3VyIiB0YWIgSSBzaG91bGQgZ2V0IHRo ZSBjb250ZW50LiBOb3cKPiBodHRwOi8vZ25vbWUuamFyZGlncmVjLmV1L2VuL3Rha2UtdGhlLXRv dXIvIGlzIGFuIGluZGV4LgoKU29sdmVkOiBodHRwOi8vZ25vbWUuamFyZGlncmVjLmV1L2VuL3Rh a2UtdGhlLXRvdXIKCk5ldyBlZGl0b3JzIGxpa2UgbWU6IHRoaXMgaXMgZG9uZSBjbGlja2luZyB0 aGUgIkRpc3BsYXkiIHRhYiBpbiB0aGUKZWRpdCBvcHRpb25zIG9mIHRoZSBwYWdlLCBhbmQgdGhl biAiQ2hhbmdlIGNvbnRlbnQgaXRlbSBhcyBkZWZhdWx0CnZpZXcuLi4iCgpCeSBkb2luZyB0aGlz IHRoZSAiVGFrZSB0aGUgdG91ciIgaXRlbSBpbiB0aGUgc2Vjb25kYXJ5IG5hdiBiYXIKZGlzYXBw ZWFycyBhdXRvbWF0aWNhbGx5LiBDb29sLgoKT25lIHF1ZXN0aW9uOiBkbyB5b3UgbGlrZSB0aGUg IkhvbWUiIHRhYiBpbiB0aGUgd2dvIHByaW1hcnkgbmF2IGJhcj8KTWF5YmUgaXS2IGJlY2F1c2Ug SSdtIHNvIG5pbmV0aWVzIGJ1dCBJIHRlbmQgdG8gYXNzdW1lIHRoYXQgY2xpY2tpbmcKdGhlIGJp ZyBsb2dvIGluIHRoZSBoZWFkZXIgd2lsbCBicmluZyBtZSB0byB0aGUgaG9tZSBpbiBhbnkKd2Vi c2l0ZS4uLi4gV2UgaGF2ZSBhbHJlYWR5ICJIb21lIiBpbiB0aGUgdG9wIEdOT01FIGJhciwgbG9v a3Mga2luZGEKd2VpcmQgc2hvd2luZyB0d2ljZSB0aGlzIHdvcmQuCgotLSAKUXVpbSBHaWwgLy8v IGh0dHA6Ly9kZXNkZWFtZXJpY2Fjb25hbW9yLm9yZwo= From thilopfennig@foresightlinux.org Fri Feb 23 19:47:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0FE3B0073 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.224 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_30_40=0.374, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 8373 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.247] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w2mPPEeAPSoe for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA193B0008 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so561816ana for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr1304032waf.1172278027056; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.17 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:47:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:47:07 +0100 From: "Thilo Pfennig" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022" References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:47:16 -0000 ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Quim, if you search for "epiphany" in google you get : http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. Development is happening on LGO rather.What you are talking about sounds more like http://developer.gnome.org/ to me which should be moved to LGO (see http://live.gnome.org/Home)? I don't think i did mix anything up - the question if we really want to have two pages for every application - so to keep this thread simple: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany) http://www.gnome.org/products/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany) and not to forget: http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany Question is: Do we want something like sourceforge.net on WGO - and if yes which site will that be? Did you mean this is Projects page? Sourceforge always has many elements. Every project has some elements like a summary (maybe this is what projects should be?), Web site (products?) and more. So maybe you are right and I am confused - but all project pages I know are very marekting orientated. You say: Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else > than offer > support (if they want it). ... We can help to those willing to join the > Plone platform, but we won push > anybody. I would like to remind that we said the following: "All the *.gnome.org subsites MUST have the same top navigation bar. This common navigation bar link subsites." (source: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation ) Anyway. Please tell me what you expect the projects page to be. Should I concentrate to just move the content of the page to the CMS? Then this is a work that could be done in one day. Especially if we have a WYSWIG editor. Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Hi Quim,

    if you search for "epiphany" in google you  get :
    http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/

    This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. Development is happening on LGO rather.What you are talking about sounds more like http://developer.gnome.org/ to me which should be moved to LGO (see http://live.gnome.org/Home)?

    I don't think i did mix anything up - the question if we really want to have two pages for every application - so to keep this thread simple:

    http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany)
    http://www.gnome.org/products/epiphany/ (shows of epiphany)

    and not to forget:
    http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany


    Question is: Do we want something like sourceforge.net on WGO - and if yes which site will that be? Did you mean this is Projects page? Sourceforge always has many elements. Every project has some elements like a summary (maybe this is what projects should be?), Web site (products?) and more.

    So maybe you are right and I am confused - but all project pages I know are very marekting orientated.

    You say:

    Each project is maintained by the teams, marketing doesn't do anything else than offer
    support (if they want it). ... We can help to those willing to join the Plone platform, but we won push
    anybody.

    I would like to remind that we said the following:
    "All the *.gnome.org subsites MUST have the same top navigation bar. This common navigation bar link subsites." (source: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation )



    Anyway. Please tell me what you expect the projects page to be. Should I concentrate to just move the content of the page to the CMS? Then this is a work that could be done in one day. Especially if we have a WYSWIG editor.


    Regards,

    Thilo
    --
    Thilo Pfennig
    http://wiki.foresightlinux.com/confluence/display/~vinci/ ------=_Part_57679_18832583.1172278027022-- From c.schwarm@gmx.net Sat Feb 24 03:01:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C8C3B006F for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 739 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q34zO0X7BGXb for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6CFC3B0008 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Feb 2007 08:01:53 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/3oJhyRH73qFpXzbf673dazXfnZJpCL6bs3v1i3N PEoQ== Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:04:17 +0100 From: Claus Schwarm To: "Thilo Pfennig" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products Message-Id: <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:50 -0500 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:02:00 -0000 Hi, just a remark: On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:47:07 +0100 "Thilo Pfennig" wrote: > Hi Quim, > > if you search for "epiphany" in google you get : > http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ > > This is 100% marketing. I dont see any development there. This is because you probably didn't click any link. Just test the most important one: "Download". This leads to LGO. It looks like a developer gone mad, not like something that is supposed to be usable. Or click the "simple" link at the start. It leads to: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/documentation/manifesto.html And this page looks differently to the main page. If you then click on "News", you get yet another design! The forth one I believe. And should I start about Dia's homepage? http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ I've recently seen an independent free software for Windows promotion page -- Dia was the number one application people searched for. If it would have lead to the above page, I doubt it could transfer the attention into downloads. However, there's a seperate page for Dia for Windows: http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net/index.php Maybe the second page has better chances but I doubt that, too. Unfortunately, Windows users are unlikely to click the link on the second page to get to the first page to _learn_ that such amazing applications are available under Linux as well. In contrast, look at some open source applications for Windows: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/index.htm http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/index.php When I look at these pages I really wonder why anybody (except developers and very "caring" people) should switch away from Windows. A more complete collection is available here: http://www.opensourcewindows.org/ However, you're right to wonder how introducting confusing stuff such as "Products" pages could make it better. The only suggestion that made sense back then was Jeff's to present stuff like "GNOME for mobile devises", "GNOME for Windows", etc. But it's probably sufficient to have a single page for that. Regards, Claus From quimgil@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:23:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C323B00CD for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 281 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.238] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ub5Nz9p94Z6x for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA983B00E3 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so862747wri for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr726769wae.1172326974916; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702240622yb3ec88p58dd584ea4c672e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:22:54 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Claus Schwarm" Subject: Re: need help with gnome-projects gnome-products In-Reply-To: <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61595bf30702231116w15a0a166m368839fcc411024d@mail.gmail.com> <20070224090417.deab7888.c.schwarm@gmx.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f33a89ab6986a28d Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, marketing-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:23:01 -0000 Gentlemen, as you probably know we have a release these days. The GNOME Product pages were discussed, agreed and planned months ago. We are implementing them now. The GNOME Projects goal was dropped from 2.18 because nobody pushed it when it was time to push it. Excuse if few weeks before the 218 release I don get into conceptual debates. There will be time for this again as soon as the revamped wgo is released and we face the 2.19 process. On 2/24/07, Claus Schwarm wrote: > However, you're right to wonder how introducting confusing stuff such > as "Products" pages could make it better. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From guydjohnston@googlemail.com Fri Feb 23 21:31:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517DA3B00A2 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74AgN8u6RfkX for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B73B0008 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so473095ugb for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr3068799ugi.1172284295339; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [80.6.124.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 53sm2093239ugd.2007.02.23.18.31.18; Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:31:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:30:47 +0000 From: Guy Johnston User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Untz Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> In-Reply-To: <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:07 -0500 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:31:42 -0000 Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi Guy, > > Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought the >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the system, >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is used >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. > > We already agreed on this a few months ago: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html > > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. > > Thanks, > > Vincent > Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a problem. Thanks, Guy From Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM Thu Feb 22 04:30:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webmaster@gnome.org Delivered-To: webmaster@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2F3B0014 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.109 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_Unix=-1, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 9 (NAT!), (distance 18, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [192.18.1.36] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFakKyhZMTAj for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com [192.18.1.36]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937C13B017F for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1-emea-09.sun.com ([192.18.2.119]) by gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l1M9UKmd015188 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:20 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-emea-09.sun.com by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JDU00A01Y7KD100@d1-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM) for webmaster@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t2 ([84.153.186.98]) by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JDU0035XYEBUP14@d1-emea-09.sun.com>; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:42:20 +0100 From: Hartmut Kaiser Subject: Sun sponsoring Java/Gnome developer tutorial: How to use Java-Gnome to develop Java based GNOME applications in OpenSolaris Sender: Hartmut.Kaiser@Sun.COM To: Hartmut Kaiser Message-id: <1172137340.8771.57.camel@t2.domain> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:23:56 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:30:29 -0000 Hi all, I would like to draw your attention to the following tutorial: "How to use Java-Gnome to develop Java based GNOME applications in OpenSolaris" http://www.guug.de/veranstaltungen/osdevcon2007/abstracts.html#1_1_1 by John Rice (John Rice is a staff engineer in Sun) which will be held in Berlin, next week, Tuesday, February 27th 2007 10:00-18:00, during the OpenSolaris Developer Conference: www.osdevcon.org Sun Germany was given the possibility to sponsor a small number of seats due to the fact that this tutorial is given by a Sun employee. So I volunteered to inform the Java/Netbeans/Gnome Community. The focus of the conference is development of the OpenSolaris Platform (rather than development of applications on top of the platform), so Java/Netbeans/Gnome-Applications is a little bit off-topic to this audience and approved to provide a complementary topic at the edge of the main topic. I thought that you would be interested. If you know any Java/Netbeans(/OpenSolaris) Developer Community members who might be, please forward this note. Respondents are treated first come, first served to avoid additional hassle. Deadline for application has to be tomorrow, Friday, 15.00 CET. After that, I am going to inform the people who applied about the sponsorings. Please note that a Laptop is going to be necessary. OpenSolaris Developer Release already installed is best (goto: , but I was told there is a plan for providing bootable USB sticks. More on this tomorrow. Sorry for the rather short notice, hope to see you in Berlin, Hartmut Kaiser. PS: if you are interested in (downloading) Solaris Express Developer Edition, goto: http://developers.sun.com/downloads/ then Solaris, then Solaris Express Developer Edition -- ------------------------------------------------- Hartmut Kaiser Product Marketing Manager Software Sun Microsystems GmbH Sonnenallee 1 D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Phone: (+49)-89 46008 2847 Mobile: (+49)-172 8136729 mailto: hartmut.kaiser@sun.com http://www.sun.de ------------------------------------------------- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 09:40:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2973B0210 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2777 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.182] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gahCD0cLrRFd for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8983B01E9 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so452660pye for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.126.7 with SMTP id d7mr6864431pyn.1172328013328; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:40:13 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Tango icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295" X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:40:18 -0000 ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the list. About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango (http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the Tango ones. If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this. Have a good day -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the list.

    About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the Tango ones.

    If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this.

    Have a good day

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_25845_10462797.1172328013295-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sat Feb 24 21:20:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988D33B0088 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5745 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.162.237] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e9MGv378+A5q for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD523B00D6 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so953244nzf for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.58.8 with SMTP id l8mr8146125pyk.1172370008630; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:20:08 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_28748_18090297.1172370008537" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:20:15 -0000 ------=_Part_28748_18090297.1172370008537 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537" ------=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). There are also a few issues related to the fact that I'm not sure if I am completely adhering to the DOAP specs regarding a couple attributes, but we are short on time and I think we can fix those laters, being "non-fatal" issues. Once doap-branch is in trunk, we'll have to quickly fix bugs on views and templates, write doap view tests (they are important because without them maintaining doap would be a mess, but I guess it's not a big deal if the first wgo PSC doesn't have them in, I mean, I guess we can safely put them after the view / template bugfixing tasks). So, to sum up, my proposal is: * Merge doap in trunk * Fix view bugs * Write doap tests If you have any questions, doubts or ideas I'd be glad to hear them. I will also attach an example of export that I got from my test content, just to give anyone the idea of what attributes get actually exported and what are not. I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file. It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following: def getPlatformVocab(self): """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from the top-level projects container. """ return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk once we're merged. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_28749_6914256.1172370008537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). There are also a few issues related to the fact that I'm not sure if I am completely adhering to the DOAP specs regarding a couple attributes, but we are short on time and I think we can fix those laters, being "non-fatal" issues.

    Once doap-branch is in trunk, we'll have to quickly fix bugs on views and templates, write doap view tests (they are important because without them maintaining doap would be a mess, but I guess it's not a big deal if the first wgo PSC doesn't have them in, I mean, I guess we can safely put them after the view / template bugfixing tasks).

    So, to sum up, my proposal is:
    * Merge doap in trunk
    * Fix view bugs
    * Write doap tests

    If you have any questions, doubts or ideas I'd be glad to hear them.
    I will also attach an example of export that I got from my test content, just to give anyone the idea of what attributes get actually exported and what are not.
    I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file.
    It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following:

    def getPlatformVocab(self):
            """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from
            the top-level projects container.
            """
            return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()])

    But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk once we're merged.

    Greetings

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. 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Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:08:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:07:29 +0000 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <20061222170912.593f692a.simon@atonie.org> <61595bf30702180224g2e89a501v79b5747d334ff77f@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:08:35 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Okay, my latest work is in svn. Tests are still missing, however, I > think I can do those in trunk (I need to mess with the project tests). I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is it a problem? > I also know that there is a "All platforms" kinda bug. In order to solve > that, we'll have to remove "All platforms" from the os list in the > default settings of PSC and also make the variable "None" somewhat > selectable when you are assigning the OS to the release file. > It is just a matter of modifying slightly the "getPlatformVocab" method > in content/downloadablefile.py and content/filelink.py to the following: > > def getPlatformVocab(self): > """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from > the top-level projects container. > """ > return DisplayList([(None,'All platforms'), (item, item) for > item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) > > But I'm unsure whether this breaks something or not, so I haven't > implemented it in my branch, but it's quite easy to put that in trunk > once we're merged. You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? I don't quite understand what the problem is, though. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 07:38:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019943B008E for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2799 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RCKU-TmyKeMA for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B273D3B006D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so594728pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.121.9 with SMTP id y9mr9244075pym.1172407108836; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:38:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:38:28 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:38:35 -0000 ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is > it a problem? It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much. You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we > upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very > common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP spec says that you should put the attribute only when the product/project is OS specific. In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported from them and I'm basically done. The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something like All platforms. This isn't a great example of "adhering to the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all. Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions: 1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration. 2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the vocabulary method). 3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it. I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org, although someone else might if in his setup he changed "All platforms" to something else. Hope I have explained myself well. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Hello,

    I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is
    it a problem?

    It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much.

    You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we
    upgrade PSC on plone.org, will eveyone who had "All platforms" (very
    common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid?

    Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP spec says  that you should put the <os> attribute only when the product/project is OS specific.
    In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported from them and I'm basically done.
    The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something like <os>All platforms</os>. This isn't a great example of "adhering to the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all.
    Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions:
    1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration.

    2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the vocabulary method).

    3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it.

    I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org, although someone else might if in his setup he changed "All platforms" to something else.

    Hope I have explained myself well.

    Greetings
    --
    Simone Deponti
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    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_30886_4277939.1172407108758-- From quimgil@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 08:07:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6601F3B007F for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:07:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 5111 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.82.237] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q2ueFWTAxy7L for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB77B3B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:06:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1048727wxc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr307438wab.1172408816211; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:06:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702250506o4f280c9cid1d962f612582249@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:06:56 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Simone Deponti" Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0e5bc0e01c97bc0f Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:07:02 -0000 Thanks Simone for your work under time pressure. I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until your version is installed? I don't mind starting creating pages in the current version even if it lacks DOAP wunder and some tests, if we can move to a next version without much hassle when it's ready. Instead, making writers wait until we have the ideal version is much more risky from our perspective. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 08:30:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628803B0009 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2800 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oljg8B6MLzZO for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204253B000C for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so600929pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.43.10 with SMTP id v10mr9338745pyj.1172410209611; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250530w50dd3fb6u282976063c29e199@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:30:09 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250529i6629cc2k8975c318fc4b2cfd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702250506o4f280c9cid1d962f612582249@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250529i6629cc2k8975c318fc4b2cfd@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:30:15 -0000 ------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in > the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until > your version is installed? Well, as you probably saw, we will provide a no-migration-needed solution if possible and if not we will write migration scripts. The version actually installed on gnome.jardigrec.eu is quite broken though, since I haven't ported in my version all the changes made in trunk to solve bugs (my bad). I'll do that ASAP. Anyway, I think we should try to upload PSC trunk instead of my version ASAP, because it simply works, and have writers work on that, since switching to DOAP isn't a content destructive change (means, the content doesn't change). We can do that safely (I mean, adding DOAP) just before releasing. Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I only have one question. Is it ok for us to start filling content in
    the installation Ra,on has put for wgo or is it better to wait until
    your version is installed?

    Well, as you probably saw, we will provide a no-migration-needed solution if possible and if not we will write migration scripts. The version actually installed on gnome.jardigrec.eu is quite broken though, since I haven't ported in my version all the changes made in trunk to solve bugs (my bad).
    I'll do that ASAP.

    Anyway, I think we should try to upload PSC trunk instead of my version ASAP, because it simply works, and have writers work on that, since switching to DOAP isn't a content destructive change (means, the content doesn't change). We can do that safely (I mean, adding DOAP) just before releasing.

    Greetings

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
    ------=_Part_31166_9985829.1172410209548-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 08:35:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E0E3B0118 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 929 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j+JFlNmfitum for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72A3B0091 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLJWo-0001f5-3Q for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:35:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:12 +0000 Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180749p1549fa90n777ff9b568eace8e@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180758g50342cb7q8d4455293ff759a1@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:35:39 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello, > > I'd be happier if there were some passing tests before we merge. Why is > it a problem? > > > It's not a problem per se, I just need to write the tests and it'll take > me time, so this means atleast another week/week and a half before > merge. I don't know if wgo can wait all that much. If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. > You need to consider migrations here. If you change the value and we > upgrade PSC on plone.org , will eveyone who had > "All platforms" (very > common for Plone) find that their selection is invalid? > > > Yeah, we'll have to migrate the content. The problem is simple: the DOAP > spec says that you should put the attribute only when the > product/project is OS specific. > In PSC however, we have no operating system associated to the project > but rather, we have it associated to the release file. This is not a big > deal, since I simply do a catalog search to get all the PSCFile and > PSCFileLink contained in my project, extract the list of os supported > from them and I'm basically done. > The problem is that by doing so I end up writing in the feed something > like All platforms. This isn't a great example of "adhering to > the specs" and honestly I don't like it at all. > Thinking of the possible solutions, I came to these three solutions: > 1. In DOAPView, filtering the "All platforms" keyword somewhat. Doesn't > work because "All platforms" can be changed for example into "All > operating systems" by the user in PSC configuration. > > 2. Making sure that the "All platforms" choice has always the same value > and then apply solution one. That's what my proposal was about, simply > enforcing a value for "All platforms" and taking that out from the user > control. We can also think about keeping "All platforms" as both label > and value, but enforcing them with the patch I proposed. Anyway, this > solution has a drawback when it comes to internationalization: I have > yet to see how we can fit this with the i18n system (there is a way, > though, by directly calling translation_service.utranslate() from the > vocabulary method). > > 3. Decide we do not need the OS attribute exported into DOAP, and skip it. > > I still favor approach number 2: If instead of none we use "All > platforms" we shouldn't have migration issues on plone.org > , although someone else might if in his setup he > changed "All platforms" to something else. > > Hope I have explained myself well. or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or migration support. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 10:03:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64E13B0088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2801 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ViFD-2yuDLK8 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0423B000C for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so611957pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.121.2 with SMTP id y2mr9508380pym.1172415784319; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:03:04 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Martin Aspeli" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:03:18 -0000 ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) > > If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't > see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to start inserting content. We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk. or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but > that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes > sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or > migration support. That could be a great feature for kde.org, but we're working for gnome.orghere :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on GNOME usability, to understand the joke). Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined value can fit well enough. Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms also means not specified for us). For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the Internet Explorer of DOAP. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :)

    If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't
    see why adding tests after merge helps anyone.

    Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to start inserting content.
    We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk.

    or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but
    that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes
    sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or
    migration support.

    That could be a great feature for kde.org, but we're working for gnome.org here :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on GNOME usability, to understand the joke).

    Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined value can fit well enough.
    Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms also means not specified for us).
    For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the Internet Explorer of DOAP.

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31450_18808303.1172415784260-- From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 10:06:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF74D3B00C0 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 944 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M61pkHhu8KHY for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787573B0096 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLKwr-0006E2-EP for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:06:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:05:35 +0000 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180803u6424375ch9b895e79f2ac70b9@mail.gmail.com> <7f55e5450702180856v3d134a53x24b61bb6669f9a6c@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:06:25 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > If I were wgo, I wouldn't deploy software with no tests. :) > > If they need to, they can deploy the branch and switch later. I don't > see why adding tests after merge helps anyone. > > > Well, okay, we can merge after the tests are done. Deploying "right now" > is needed because we are online in one week or so, and people need to > start inserting content. > We can either upload doap-branch or trunk, doesn't make much of a > difference, since the doap branch is content-compatible with trunk. > > or 4, let the user select which value really means "all platforms", but > that's still cumbersome. I think having it as a special value (2) makes > sense, but you can't put that in trunk unless there is fallback or > migration support. > > > That could be a great feature for kde.org , but we're > working for gnome.org here :D (cfr. Linus Torvalds on > GNOME usability, to understand the joke). /me doesn't get it at all > Jokes aside, we do really need to let the user choose what he wants for > "All platforms"? I think that the i18n for the label and a predefined > value can fit well enough. > Anyway, I might implement that in doap-branch along with a migration > script later (that checks the values and migrates everything that > doesn't match with the config to "All platforms", where all platforms > also means not specified for us). > For now, let's leave things as they are and hope we are not being the > Internet Explorer of DOAP. I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so long as its translatable and there is a working migration. Martin From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 10:17:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586073B0091 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2802 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.179] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id it4gCTpYNENp for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364AF3B0088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so613386pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.102.1 with SMTP id e1mr9579395pym.1172416667520; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:17:47 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Martin Aspeli" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702180859n4cb5f1f7r8ee1afc3de3553b5@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:17:52 -0000 ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > /me doesn't get it at all Sorry, I'm known for the fair amount of bad and obscure jokes I stuff into mails, anyway, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html might enlighten you (it triggered one of the biggest usability flamewars that I remember, but indeed pointed out the major difference between the two desktop environments) I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so > long as its translatable and there is a working migration. We I was thinking of hardcoding "All platforms" (and its translations) to "All platforms". That is because this way we are sure that whatever the user selects (it being "All platforms", "Alle Plattformen" or "Tutti", depending on the translation) the view retrieves the value "All platforms" (and not a value that depends on the translation or the user) that I can filter. Hardcoding to None was a "cleaner" approach (because adopting the "All platforms"-encoded approach kinda creates a "reserved value" that the user must not use), but using this minimizes the amount of migration that the migration script has to do and, since I'm not sure we can sort out a perfect algorithm for migration (there are some cases that are really hard to cover) the less work it has to do the better it is. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    /me doesn't get it at all

    Sorry, I'm known for the fair amount of bad and obscure jokes I stuff into mails, anyway, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html might enlighten you (it triggered one of the biggest usability flamewars that I remember, but indeed pointed out the major difference between the two desktop environments)

    I think it's fine if All platforms is hard coded and becomes None, so
    long as its translatable and there is a working migration.

    We I was thinking of hardcoding "All platforms" (and its translations) to "All platforms". That is because this way we are sure that whatever the user selects (it being "All platforms", "Alle Plattformen" or "Tutti", depending on the translation) the view retrieves the value "All platforms" (and not a value that depends on the translation or the user) that I can filter.
    Hardcoding to None was a "cleaner" approach (because adopting the "All platforms"-encoded approach kinda creates a "reserved value" that the user must not use), but using this minimizes the amount of migration that the migration script has to do and, since I'm not sure we can sort out a perfect algorithm for migration (there are some cases that are really hard to cover) the less work it has to do the better it is.

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_31518_3120296.1172416667464-- From davconvent@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 11:29:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8323B0007 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.103 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_40_50=0.496, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2100 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U-qkiBr5cHdD for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3493B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so1422420nfc for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.230.5 with SMTP id c5mr10652251nfh.1172420988143; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l32sm6569139nfa.2007.02.25.08.29.44; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:29:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ab6fe210702240640jd04ecc8hf041bcf71adea135@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Message-Id: <120E8F26-E3CB-4BD7-B190-046885D0C286@gmail.com> From: David Convent Subject: Re: Tango icons Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:29:39 +0100 To: Simone Deponti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:29:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I helped the Plango release process, the product is clean. If you want some Tango like theme, having its icons might be good :) David On 24 Feb 2007, at 15:40, Simone Deponti wrote: > Hello to the list. > > About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention to the fact > that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( http://plone.org/ > products/plango) that replaces the default plone icons with the > Tango ones. > > If you find this interesting, might be cool to add it to the > products we have on wgo (it should be just a matter of installing > it). However, since I do not know what are the policies of GNOME > regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this. > > Have a good day > > -- > Simone Deponti > ------------------------------------------- > - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? > - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list --Apple-Mail-1-840251194 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
    I helped the Plango release = process, the product is clean.
    If you want some Tango like = theme, having its icons might be good :)

    David

    On = 24 Feb 2007, at 15:40, Simone Deponti wrote:

    Hello to = the list.

    About a week ago, someone on #plone draw my attention = to the fact that exists a product for GNOME called plango ( = http://plone.org/products/plango) that replaces the default plone = icons with the Tango ones.

    If you find this interesting, might be = cool to add it to the products we have on wgo (it should be just a = matter of installing it). However, since I do not know what are the = policies of GNOME regarding Tango, I'm just signaling this.

    Have = a good day

    --
    Simone = Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, = which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is = the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
    gnome-web-list mailing list

    = --Apple-Mail-1-840251194-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 25 17:56:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52993B00C4 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A+2WpGCvAiE7; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CACA3B0061; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 085976CC0C1; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:04 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, lmedinas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070225225604.085976CC0C1@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:56:04 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:56:08 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: lmedinas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5038&view=rev Last few lines of output: Makefile:698: target `fr/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `pt_BR/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `sv/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. make[10]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' Makefile:698: target `fr/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `pt_BR/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. Makefile:698: target `sv/press_release.xml' given more than once in the same rule. make[10]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[10]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release/docbook' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[9]: *** No rule to make target `all-am'. Stop. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[8]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[7]: *** [all] Error 2 make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/press_release' make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14' make[5]: *** [all] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From shywolf9982@gmail.com Sun Feb 25 18:01:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60D23B0061 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.727 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2809 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.178] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GZT6UbVMOJW for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604733B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so664152pye for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.80.20 with SMTP id h20mr10476814pyl.1172444504856; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:01:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:01:44 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:01:49 -0000 ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Current status: doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview. Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the human eye). So yeah, I've even learned something :D. Greetings all -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Current status:

    doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview.

    Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the human eye).

    So yeah, I've even learned something :D.

    Greetings all

    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_34014_17553756.1172444504731-- From gnomeweb@gnome.org Sun Feb 25 18:02:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE923B0084 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vqWWpvFPlCUo; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from window.gnome.org (window-back [172.31.1.13]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B223B0012; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by window.gnome.org (Postfix, from userid 2184) id 262F26CC0F8; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:03 -0500 (EST) To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org, lmedinas@gnome.org Subject: Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/ Message-Id: <20070225230203.262F26CC0F8@window.gnome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:02:03 -0500 (EST) From: gnomeweb@gnome.org (Web Site Maintainance) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:02:07 -0000 Failure updating http://www.gnome.org/. Last commit by: lmedinas ViewCVS: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml?rev=5038&view=rev Last few lines of output: make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make all-recursive make[6]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' Making all in images make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make all-recursive make[8]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[9]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[9]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[9]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[8]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo/images' make[7]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[7]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[7]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/hipo' Making all in brasero make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/brasero' make[5]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects/brasero' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/projects' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/www/gnomeweb/svn-wd/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Full output can be seen at http://www.gnome.org/updatelogs/gnomeweb-wml.out From gnome-gnome-web-list@m.gmane.org Sun Feb 25 18:36:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0444C3B006D for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 1029 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [80.91.229.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MnNWvHb1g44q for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AD33B0007 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HLSuK-0001PY-Md for gnome-web-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 Received: from abercorn5929.plus.com ([84.92.172.206]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 Received: from optilude by abercorn5929.plus.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:35:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org From: Martin Aspeli Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:35:30 +0000 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702181129x5b42e77am424d1154d9427051@mail.gmail.com> <45DED4F0.2090607@epsem.upc.edu> <2ab6fe210702241820p35178b43i11345e6e3c2d4537@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: abercorn5929.plus.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:36:11 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > Current status: > > doap-support branch in svn is now completely synced with trunk, I > haven't seen any of the bug that ridden the previous version. Also, I > have implemented passing tests for each of the methods in doapview. Great. :) > Martin, again thanks for insisting with doing tests, I caught more nasty > bugs this way than probably a good 3 months of "manual" testing. Were > all small little bugs but it wouldn't have been nice at all to have them > on a live system (mainly because they tend to pass unnoticed to the > human eye). Welcome to the world of serious software development. :) Martin From quimgil@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 16:50:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1B03B00A7 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6931 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.171] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8GRe-5-oozpp for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64DB3B002A for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so855417ugb for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr57191waf.1172526620844; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:50:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:50:20 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "gnome web" Subject: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac4bbf7ea88f7f0c X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:50:28 -0000 http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/products/epiphany I need to go to sleep, tomorrow I will post comments about things we could improve. Once we have reached a product page type that satisfies all of us (I mean the GNBOME and Plone teams) I will make a call to maintainers to fill their own product pages. The goal is to get first at least the pages of products featured in the GNOME 2.18 release. Then we can keep filling until completing the official components and applications. Then we wthink what we do with the rest, if we want to do something more than linking to gnomefiles.org clever feeds. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 18:49:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782773B006F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:49:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2834 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aq3SHiW+768K for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5C23B008B for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so861766pye for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.38.17 with SMTP id q17mr13120350pyj.1172533734565; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:48:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:48:54 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Fwd: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:49:00 -0000 ------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, purely in the name of paranoia, I added a failing test to remind me, and confuse the others, about the "All Platforms" bug. It's not a major bug, but the DOAP spec says "Operating system that a project is limited to. Omit this property if the project is not OS-specific." Now, I guess I can add a fix in my branch. I was also wondering, if I do something like this security.declareProtected(permissions.View, 'getPlatformVocab') def getPlatformVocab(self): """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from the top-level projects container. """ allPlatformsTranslation = self.translation_service.utranslate('PloneSoftwareCenter', 'All platforms') allPlatforms = ('All platforms', allPlatformsTranslation) return DisplayList([allPlatforms , (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()]) Do I still need to migrate the content? Or better, the only migration I should do is to make sure to delete "All platforms" from the availablePlatforms in every PloneSoftwareCenter object in my portal, but that would be all. Other things I should do (I'm mainly posting my thoughts here for future reference) is: * Change the default content of availablePlatforms in PloneSoftwareCenter and add a validator that doesn't accept "All platforms" in any of the lines * Make sure "All platforms" gets correctly translated in templates (using the view) * And that's all, I guess My opinion is that is quite some work, that the whole stuff is still prone to user misconfigurations (Imagine one user unknowingly adding "All operating systems" to his PSC configuration: and all I said above becomes completely useless). I'm extremely confused over the issue. I would like to know the list opinion, if anybody has some. Oi, my head hurts -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, purely in the name of paranoia, I added a failing test to remind me, and confuse the others, about the "All Platforms" bug. It's not a major bug, but the DOAP spec says " Operating system that a project is limited to.  Omit this property if the project is not OS-specific."

    Now, I guess I can add a fix in my branch. I was also wondering, if I do something like this

    security.declareProtected(permissions.View, 'getPlatformVocab')
        def getPlatformVocab(self):
            """Get the platforms available for selection via acquisition from
            the top-level projects container.
            """
            allPlatformsTranslation =     self.translation_service.utranslate('PloneSoftwareCenter', 'All platforms')
            allPlatforms = ('All platforms', allPlatformsTranslation)
                return DisplayList([allPlatforms , (item, item) for item in self.getAvailablePlatforms()])

    Do I still need to migrate the content?

    Or better, the only migration I should do is to make sure to delete "All platforms" from the availablePlatforms in every PloneSoftwareCenter object in my portal, but that would be all.

    Other things I should do (I'm mainly posting my thoughts here for future reference) is:
    * Change the default content of availablePlatforms in PloneSoftwareCenter and add a validator that doesn't accept "All platforms" in any of the lines
    * Make sure "All platforms" gets correctly translated in templates (using the view)
    * And that's all, I guess

    My opinion is that is quite some work, that the whole stuff is still prone to user misconfigurations (Imagine one user unknowingly adding "All operating systems" to his PSC configuration: and all I said above becomes completely useless).

    I'm extremely confused over the issue. I would like to know the list opinion, if anybody has some.

    Oi, my head hurts


    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
    ------=_Part_44694_511756.1172533734483-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Mon Feb 26 19:24:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E883A3B006F for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.611 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2835 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.177] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qo8g61ERFtAP for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461493B0010 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so866448pye for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.66.1 with SMTP id t1mr13274454pyk.1172535849717; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:24:09 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Fwd: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673" References: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261430w65944cecw8381ff776049c06b@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:24:13 -0000 ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, I'm gonna be serious now. I agree with Quim that the Products page needs a heavy make-up, but I knew it would. What I'm more concerned about is functionality: the look part shouldn't be hard. Speaking of the look part, I think we should need to fix the following "visual bugs" (not really bugs, more... underimplementation) that actually are present in wgo. I made up this little list by taking Mairin's mockup and putting it side to side with my Firefox window. 1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as background to the
  • , and they don't have the correct height (and their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few pixels) 2. Tabs: they need to be bigger. Bigger font, more padding in all the directions (the text is getting claustrophobic in there). Also, the template already gives the correct "active" class to tabs, and the CSS doesn't implement it (I love how the link color gets blue on the active tab in Mairin mockup). Needs to be fixed 3. The tertiary navigation bar: looked bigger and shinier in Mairin's mockup. Here, I fear we will have to give up on bigger since we're already low on screen real estate but, I guess we can do something on the shiny front. And here too, we miss the active spot CSS integration. 4. Last, that slightly vanishing grey background under the tertiary nav just goes down a little too much, if you compare the proportions with those in Mairin's mockups. It also goes under the content, where it generates a funny effect (part of it gets superseded by the white background of the content) Note, I am not criticizing anyone's work here (cause if we look at the code I wrote for PloneSoftwareCenter, I better shut up). Just doing a comparison (okay, I know we can't be pixel identical, but still..). And in my opinion, our implementation loses 60% of Mairin's mockup visual impact. I'm willing to take up task 1 and get it done asap, and after that, well, we'll see ;). I'm eager to hear opinions and why not, help offers :P. Good night everyone PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such characters. -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay, I'm gonna be serious now. I agree with Quim that the Products page needs a heavy make-up, but I knew it would. What I'm more concerned about is functionality: the look part shouldn't be hard.

    Speaking of the look part, I think we should need to fix the following "visual bugs" (not really bugs, more... underimplementation) that actually are present in wgo. I made up this little list by taking Mairin's mockup and putting it side to side with my Firefox window.

    1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as background to the <li>, and they don't have the correct height (and their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few pixels)
    2. Tabs: they need to be bigger. Bigger font, more padding in all the directions (the text is getting claustrophobic in there). Also, the template already gives the correct "active" class to tabs, and the CSS doesn't implement it (I love how the link color gets blue on the active tab in Mairin mockup). Needs to be fixed
    3. The tertiary navigation bar: looked bigger and shinier in Mairin's mockup. Here, I fear we will have to give up on bigger since we're already low on screen real estate but, I guess we can do something on the shiny front. And here too, we miss the active spot CSS integration.
    4. Last, that slightly vanishing grey background under the tertiary nav just goes down a little too much, if you compare the proportions with those in Mairin's mockups. It also goes under the content, where it generates a funny effect (part of it gets superseded by the white background of the content)

    Note, I am not criticizing anyone's work here (cause if we look at the code I wrote for PloneSoftwareCenter, I better shut up). Just doing a comparison (okay, I know we can't be pixel identical, but still..). And in my opinion, our implementation loses 60% of Mairin's mockup visual impact.

    I'm willing to take up task 1 and get it done asap, and after that, well, we'll see ;).

    I'm eager to hear opinions and why not, help offers :P.

    Good night everyone

    PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such characters.



    --
    Simone Deponti
    -------------------------------------------
    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks.
    ------=_Part_45039_25402146.1172535849673-- From duffy@redhat.com Mon Feb 26 20:10:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A63B00D8 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.562 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 7725 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZyaF6PH05T3M for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3715A3B00E1 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R1AmOh016631; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:48 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R1AmCG002613; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:48 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.42] (vpn-248-42.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.42]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1R1Al7B018143; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: <45E3850F.9030407@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:39 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simone Deponti Subject: Re: Fwd: Tuning the GNOME Product template/page References: <61595bf30702261350m21b4677fmab3b164a976884ca@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261430w65944cecw8381ff776049c06b@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261623l44e59efeobd6d2e4e19966e70@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261624j20224d8bif41dc4df375077d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:10:55 -0000 Simone Deponti wrote: > 1. Upper black bar: notice how the thin vertical line beside "Home" is > much more long than the one beside "News". That is a bug I thought I > have solved at one time, and is because the line is applied as > background to the
  • , and they don't have the correct height (and > their background so starts at the wrong height and gets cut after a few > pixels) If there's anything I can do to help fix this with graphics do let me know! I'll be working on wgo every night this week starting tonight. > PS Mairin, I know I horribly misspelled your name throughout this mail. > I'm sorry. As excuse, I can say I just can't find that i with an open > accent on an italian keyboard. Apparently here in Italy we abhor such > characters. No worries 'Mairin' works fine for me. :) ~m From duffy@redhat.com Mon Feb 26 23:13:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644343B002A; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 7756 hrs), (distance 11, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.233.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VUpx-9y-7Vcf; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810F13B006F; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R4D60m008119; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:06 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1R4D6NP029635; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:06 -0500 Received: from [10.13.248.42] (vpn-248-42.boston.redhat.com [10.13.248.42]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1R4D5Po031302; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:13:05 -0500 Message-ID: <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:12:57 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:13:11 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > On 2/20/07, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the users sees >> > clearly where she is. >> >> Do you need artwork for this? > > Sure thing Okay, here is all the artwork as promised: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/wgo-navbar-splices.tar.gz I have splices for the highlighted and un-highlighted secondary nav bar (highlighted to be used for the currently-highlighted second-level nav item), and i have splices for both un-hightlighted and highlighted first-level nav bars. Let me know if you need any help with these; I made a little map of where each splice comes from, eg.: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/navbar1%20highlighted%20tab/nav1-highlighted-tab_splicing.png ~m From davconvent@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:05:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A273B00CF for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_AV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2153 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.182.184] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S9Jv3d+KyOG3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4753B0115 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so293209nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.202.18 with SMTP id z18mr1965250nff.1172610339284; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c1sm3218391nfe.2007.02.27.13.05.37; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:37 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> References: <61595bf30702172224m3681339apa62507a6f1dbe16d@mail.gmail.com> <45DA9C49.3010503@redhat.com> <61595bf30702201304h5c3ef692r576cfbbe84c19dc1@mail.gmail.com> <45E3AFC9.3030507@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <85455261-4DF9-4697-A313-A2A275BB8042@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Convent Subject: Re: [wgo] Polishing navigation bars Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:05:19 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:05:46 -0000 Is someone in charge of applying this artwork in the CSS? I can't promise I'll have time for that before the deadline. I need at least to know if someone volunteers for it or if I need to =20 organize my time in order to try doing it myself. Cheers, David On 27 Feb 2007, at 05:12, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: > Quim Gil wrote: >> On 2/20/07, M=E1ir=EDn Duffy wrote: >>>> - Current section should be highlighted in the tabs, so the =20 >>>> users sees >>>> clearly where she is. >>> >>> Do you need artwork for this? >> >> Sure thing > > Okay, here is all the artwork as promised: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/wgo-=20 > navbar-splices.tar.gz > > I have splices for the highlighted and un-highlighted secondary nav =20= > bar > (highlighted to be used for the currently-highlighted second-level nav > item), and i have splices for both un-hightlighted and highlighted > first-level nav bars. > > Let me know if you need any help with these; I made a little map of > where each splice comes from, eg.: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gnome-brand/wgo/navbar_splices/=20 > navbar1%20highlighted%20tab/nav1-highlighted-tab_splicing.png > > > ~m > _______________________________________________ > gnome-web-list mailing list > gnome-web-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:25:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171D3B02AE for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 360 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.235] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HoncCzJKoC9A for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030023B02AD for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so2266975wra for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr475851wae.1172611544880; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:25:44 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Andreas Nilsson" Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 In-Reply-To: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e4747023f6219918 Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:25:53 -0000 (((moving this to gnome-web-list since it's about tech and not content))) It seems that I almost the only stubborn with the horizontal secondary nav bar. Maybe you are right and it's better to have it vertical, then. This was one bit we left half-open in the planning process since there was no clear consensus for horizontal or vertical. "We will see the nav bar working and then we will decide", we said. The only problem I see now to do this change is of human resources. Who is going to do this work? On 2/27/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Greetings! > Not sure if this should have gone to the web-list instead, hope the > right people are subscribed to this one. :) > Tried out the beta-site at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ and ran into some > problems when using smaller resolutions. > On the "Take the tour" page it works good on 1680x1050 [1], but run into > problems with 1024x768 [2] and 800x600 [3]. This problem is also going > to arise when more projects get added to the product page. > I've chatted with both Steven Garrity and M=E1ir=EDn Duffy about this, an= d > Steven said they went for a vertical sub menu on mozilla.com [4] when > faced with the same issues as we have and M=E1ir=EDn pointed me to a moc= kup > of her [5]. > > Does this sound like a good idea? > Hope this isn't too late to change, or that we run into other issues by > doing this. > > 1. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1680x1050.png > 2. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1024x768.png > 3. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-800x600.png > 4. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/ > 5. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png > > btw, as a bonus point, screens are wider than tall. > - Andreas > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:38:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87AB3B0231 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 6955 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [66.249.92.172] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mBOuLzQdnnLc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CBB3B02A2 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 74so1153223ugb for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr1952477wac.1172612292630; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:38:12 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Guy Johnston" Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux In-Reply-To: <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90e293e898467503 Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:38:21 -0000 We are working hard in order to have a revamped wgo by the GNOME 2.18 release. Would you mind waiting until the new site is out? This problem will be fixed there. Personally I putting all my time in the wgo revamp and I haven't touched the current cvs/svn based wgo since ages. Thank you for your understanding. On 2/24/07, Guy Johnston wrote: > Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi Guy, > > > > Le dimanche 11 f=E9vrier 2007, =E0 21:13, Guy Johnston a =E9crit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME > >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." > >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole > >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the > >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, > >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought th= e > >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the syste= m, > >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the > >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating > >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is us= ed > >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read > >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. > > > > We already agreed on this a few months ago: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.ht= ml > > > > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vincent > > > > Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a probl= em. > > Thanks, > > Guy > -- > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/board-list > > >From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be discuss= ed > on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential information a= s > confidential, and do not redistribute this information without permission= . > --=20 Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From olav@bkor.dhs.org Tue Feb 27 17:00:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB33B0126; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.083 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-1.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.2, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=2.046, TW_GT=0.077, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2286 hrs), (distance 12, link: ethernet/modem), [24.132.1.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvMLHiTMlA7y; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bkor.dhs.org (j1111.upc-j.chello.nl [24.132.1.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864803B00B3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by bkor.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1B90E72F984; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:00:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:00:20 +0100 From: Olav Vitters To: Goran Rakic Subject: Re: library.gnome.org status Message-ID: <20070227220019.GI5947@bkor.dhs.org> References: <61595bf30702101401s5689b6d6x790082f6ebe8167a@mail.gmail.com> <1171591443.15633.20.camel@localhost> <1171627633.25634.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1171638500.15006.12.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: shaunm@gnome.org, gnome-sysadmin@gnome.org, gnome web , gnome-infrastructure@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:00:24 -0000 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 04:08:20PM +0100, Goran Rakic wrote: > õ ÐÅÔ, 16. 02 2007. Õ 13:07 +0100, Murray Cumming ÐÉÛÅ: > > > > On development, I need some help with XSLT to make output look as on > > > mockups I did > > > > What files should people look at? URL links to our svn web pages would > > be nice. > > Sure, db2html.xsl[1] is overriding styles defined in Shaun's > gnome-doc-utils styles for converting docbook to HTML. What's necessary > is to have TOC on every page and to have previous/next navigation bar. > There are also issues with some cross-referenced links going to > yelp://... instead to other HTML page. Even if the style is totally incorrect, looks terrible, etc. Does the basic functionality work? Can you go from one chapter/page to the next one? If so, that is good enough for setting up a test version. Could you please advise what is needed for library.g.o v0.0.1 alpha to go live as library.gnome.org? Meaning: What software needs to be running on the server? What are the minimum versions you require? How much diskspace do you assume this will take? Does it need to have scripts in cron? Is there some documentation on how to get this working? If not, could you please write a short howto? Do you need a database? > Other file is gtk-doc.xsl[2], overriding default style for converting > gtk-doc documents to HTML. There are also issues with links to other > documents, like linking to glib API from epiphany API. I don't know to > which version of glib API documentation should links go and how to fix > this issue. It will be ugly just to remove outside links, but that can > work for now. That doesn't block the go-live of a test version. > [1]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gdu/xslt/db2html.xsl > [2]http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/library-web/trunk/locators/gtkdoc/xslt/gtk-doc.xsl > > > > and I need to integrate gettext support for static content > > > (index pages for browsing documentation). > > > > Is that a python coding task? > > Yes it is, it is necessary so one can browse localized documentation > using localized website, and it is not a major programming task. I think > it will be irritating for translation teams to go live without this > feature enabled. This also doesn't block a test version to go live. Yes, some stuff will be broken. The intention is to have something that shows something. It doesn't have to be perfect, have all the features, etc. -- Regards, Olav From nisses.mail@home.se Tue Feb 27 17:03:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9423B0126; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 3768 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [81.228.8.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hjzQahYaiouF; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1313B00B3; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id CF26037EE2; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08E037E4F; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (h101n1fls31o839.telia.com [213.64.30.101]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984CA37E43; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:03:27 +0100 From: Andreas Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gnome web X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:03:35 -0000 I'm not good at Plone at all, but looking at the source, it looks like it should just be a matter of some css in one of the style-sheets. I'll see if I can come up with some usable css for a sidebar and hopefully we can just insert it. Any Plone dudes around? - Andreas Quim Gil wrote: > (((moving this to gnome-web-list since it's about tech and not content))) > > It seems that I almost the only stubborn with the horizontal secondary > nav bar. Maybe you are right and it's better to have it vertical, > then. This was one bit we left half-open in the planning process since > there was no clear consensus for horizontal or vertical. > > "We will see the nav bar working and then we will decide", we said. > > The only problem I see now to do this change is of human resources. > Who is going to do this work? > > On 2/27/07, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> Greetings! >> Not sure if this should have gone to the web-list instead, hope the >> right people are subscribed to this one. :) >> Tried out the beta-site at http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/ and ran into some >> problems when using smaller resolutions. >> On the "Take the tour" page it works good on 1680x1050 [1], but run into >> problems with 1024x768 [2] and 800x600 [3]. This problem is also going >> to arise when more projects get added to the product page. >> I've chatted with both Steven Garrity and Máirín Duffy about this, and >> Steven said they went for a vertical sub menu on mozilla.com [4] when >> faced with the same issues as we have and Máirín pointed me to a mockup >> of her [5]. >> >> Does this sound like a good idea? >> Hope this isn't too late to change, or that we run into other issues by >> doing this. >> >> 1. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1680x1050.png >> 2. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-1024x768.png >> 3. http://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-wgo-800x600.png >> 4. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/ >> 5. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/wgo-sidenav.png >> >> btw, as a bonus point, screens are wider than tall. >> - Andreas >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > > From quimgil@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:14:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B323B0093 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 361 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.229] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4enAMW3UotE0 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B73B0126 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i7so2284377wra for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr2748863waf.1172614459612; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.57.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:14:19 +0200 From: "Quim Gil" Sender: quimgil@gmail.com To: "Simone Deponti" Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250438o428c2bcfnf450932fc5f585d3@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 85a582ccf1c23e34 Cc: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:29 -0000 Isn't "all platforms" too wide anyway? Is your software working on maemo, Wii, P2P, mainframes... ;) Why not listing several OSs and then people select. Right, in the Plone case most things will work on any platform having a web browser. How GForge solves this is offering an option "Web based" that implies cross-platform. For wgo though this is not an issue since the options are far less. (is this the kind of opinion you were looking for?) -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org From shywolf9982@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:14:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8D83B01DD for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_00_10=0.795, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) (up: 2857 hrs), (distance 12, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.166.181] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csEAHCCVPhCe for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB243B00B3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so1042857pye for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.110.13 with SMTP id n13mr4950077pym.1172614492189; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:14:52 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Andreas Nilsson" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 In-Reply-To: <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149" References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:56 -0000 ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first level at the tabs) with a different skin? It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and other mixed benefits (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David did, though :( ). I have made only a bunch of plone sites so far, and everytime they started with "okay, we won't have that plone tree menu". And I found myself bringing it back from the back door days before the release. So excuse if I insist with the proposal, but if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can come up with. And this comes from one person (me) that hated it in the beginning (I found it "boring"). Can't we have an impression of the plone menu (basically a multi-level sidebar) with gnome graphics? Greetings -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first level at the tabs) with a different skin?
    It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and other mixed benefits (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David did, though :( ).

    I have made only a bunch of plone sites so far, and everytime they started with "okay, we won't have that plone tree menu". And I found myself bringing it back from the back door days before the release.
    So excuse if I insist with the proposal, but if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can come up with.

    And this comes from one person (me) that hated it in the beginning (I found it "boring").

    Can't we have an impression of the plone menu (basically a multi-level sidebar) with gnome graphics?

    Greetings

    --
    Simone Deponti
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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7017_26420027.1172614492149-- From shywolf9982@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 17:41:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D739D3B0233 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -1.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_10_20=1.351, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZFE0H11yVGv9 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C963B0246 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so1046738pye for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.50.5 with SMTP id c5mr15705432pyk.1172616109268; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.95.2 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:41:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2ab6fe210702271441x4c19b192x9e3d825e37317223@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:41:49 +0100 From: "Simone Deponti" To: "Quim Gil" , gnome-web-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PloneSoftwareCenter DOAP In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193" References: <2ab6fe210612171455o5168232cy6d3179774d16a174@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250703n6f148ee8nda0d50e2a6a01cd8@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702250717t551ad7dfh92e1dd70fe3ab28d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702251501w4ba4868fy18ad5cee989ec58d@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548n31bbab63s6f48b58b8c01fe43@mail.gmail.com> <2ab6fe210702261548wa6b1f6ek4376922cec46ef86@mail.gmail.com> <61595bf30702271414g6c7e404fidb18c1cf21350dce@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:41:54 -0000 ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for your opinion :) But the problem resides at another level (and here I'm sorry because I supposed everyone was familiar with how PloneSoftwareCenter works). In PloneSoftwareCenter, there is no such thing as assigning an OS (or a platform) to the project. Rather, the OS/Platform is assigned to the single downloadable file that belongs to a release: PloneSofwareCenter | --- Project | --- Release | --- File (here gets assigned the OS) So, I can have the project "epiphany". Project "epiphany" has only one release: "1.0". Release "1.0" contains 4 downloadable files: epiphany.exe(whose OS attribute says "windows"), epiphany.dmg (whose OS attribute says "mac os x"), epiphany.rpm (whose OS attribute says "linux") and the source distribution of the release epiphany.tar.gz (whose OS attribute says "all platforms" because from a theoretical point of view I can compile and run it on any platform that has a gcc). This is a brilliant approach. If release 2.0 adds support for BeOS, I don't have to modify the Project object and add BeOS to the list of supported systems: I just add the downloadable file. However, DOAP reasons along different lines: the OS/Platform attribute has to be associated to the project, and only if the project is OS-specific. In order to have a list of supported operating systems for a project, my code follows the simple algorythm: * Retrieve all the downloadable files associated with a Project * Reads all the OS/Platform attributes of each downloadable file * Filters duplicates and all and just returns the attribute list The problem is that, if I take the example I gave before (epiphany) I end up having four values: "windows", "mac os x", "linux" and "All platforms". What would DOAP do? Write no os attribute, because the project isn't os specific. What does my code do? Writes four os tags containing the four values. Now, if the light went down and there is just a siren and a blinking red light, don't worry, that's the bug alert. I should somewhat treat "All platform" in a different way, but I can't just rely on the name. Anyway, after thinking about it while coming home on the bus, I came to the conclusion that the only solution that works is the one suggested by Martin and that I mocked as "KDE-ish" (let the user, at configuration time, decide if a value represents "all platforms", or, in a more formal way, if the value triggers the deletion of the os tag when encountered). This means modify some stuff, write migrations scripts, and test them (the migration scripts: and to me doesn't look like a thing you can do in a couple of seconds). This is mainly because I suspect there is no way to automate migration scripts tests, and they have to be done manually, and you want to be *damn sure* that things in a migration script works well. I won't merge in trunk until this is corrected though: because we don't generate a correct DOAP right now. Is it possible to add DOAP after the release? (even in a short span: like a couple weeks) -- Simone Deponti ------------------------------------------- - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire? - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for your opinion :)

    But the problem resides at another level (and here I'm sorry because I supposed everyone was familiar with how PloneSoftwareCenter works).
    In PloneSoftwareCenter, there is no such thing as assigning an OS (or a platform) to the project.
    Rather, the OS/Platform is assigned to the single downloadable file that belongs to a release:

    PloneSofwareCenter
      |
      --- Project
            |
            --- Release
                  |
                  --- File (here gets assigned the OS)

    So, I can have the project "epiphany". Project "epiphany" has only one release: "1.0". Release "1.0" contains 4 downloadable files: epiphany.exe (whose OS attribute says "windows"), epiphany.dmg (whose OS attribute says "mac os x"), epiphany.rpm (whose OS attribute says "linux") and the source distribution of the release epiphany.tar.gz (whose OS attribute says "all platforms" because from a theoretical point of view I can compile and run it on any platform that has a gcc).
    This is a brilliant approach. If release 2.0 adds support for BeOS, I don't have to modify the Project object and add BeOS to the list of supported systems: I just add the downloadable file.

    However, DOAP reasons along different lines: the OS/Platform attribute has to be associated to the project, and only if the project is OS-specific.
    In order to have a list of supported operating systems for a project, my code follows the simple algorythm:
    * Retrieve all the downloadable files associated with a Project
    * Reads all the OS/Platform attributes of each downloadable file
    * Filters duplicates and all and just returns the attribute list

    The problem is that, if I take the example I gave before (epiphany) I end up having four values: "windows", "mac os x", "linux" and "All platforms".
    What would DOAP do? Write no os attribute, because the project isn't os specific.
    What does my code do? Writes four os tags containing the four values. Now, if the light went down and there is just a siren and a blinking red light, don't worry, that's the bug alert.

    I should somewhat treat "All platform" in a different way, but I can't just rely on the name.

    Anyway, after thinking about it while coming home on the bus, I came to the conclusion that the only solution that works is the one suggested by Martin and that I mocked as "KDE-ish" (let the user, at configuration time, decide if a value represents "all platforms", or, in a more formal way, if the value triggers the deletion of the os tag when encountered).

    This means modify some stuff, write migrations scripts, and test them (the migration scripts: and to me doesn't look like a thing you can do in a couple of seconds).
    This is mainly because I suspect there is no way to automate migration scripts tests, and they have to be done manually, and you want to be *damn sure* that things in a migration script works well.

    I won't merge in trunk until this is corrected though: because we don't generate a correct DOAP right now. Is it possible to add DOAP after the release? (even in a short span: like a couple weeks)


    --
    Simone Deponti
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    - Oh wait, which ones are we Linux guys again, Rebels or Empire?
    - Microsoft is the Empire. Apple is the Rebels. We are the Ewoks. ------=_Part_7317_25104807.1172616109193-- From davconvent@gmail.com Tue Feb 27 20:04:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812693B0091 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:04:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) (firewall!) 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( [85.234.197.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x27sm3898600nfb.2007.02.27.17.04.47; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:04:47 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E44EE8.1010207@home.se> <61595bf30702271325w78644446j74eb39713986f532@mail.gmail.com> <45E4AAAF.1010503@home.se> <2ab6fe210702271414k5135797enbdc5c401d5bbf48e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5829E6F1-A9EF-4EB6-B0BC-9B7261657CF7@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Convent Subject: Re: Troubles with the design at 800x600 and 1024x768 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:04:39 +0100 To: gnome web X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:04:56 -0000 On 27 Feb 2007, at 23:14, Simone Deponti wrote: > What about bringing back the plone navigation (without the first > level at the tabs) with a different skin? > It wouldn't be much work at all, allows us to have a tree-like > navigation capable of descending down more than two levels, and > other mixed benefits That would be the best approach for a vertical navigation slot. Configuring its top level and its depth is just a question of setting a few properties: easy. Having it relooked is a matter of CSS, it can take a bit of time depending on the design. > (it really hurts to throw away all the really good job that David > did, though :( ). Don't worry about that, it was fun doing it :) It will still reside in the svn history for further reference if someone needs that kind of code (I may, one day). > > [...] if plone has such a menu, there's a reason: it's (in terms of > ease of use and functionality) the best navigation system you can > come up with. Definitely > > [...] > > Greetings Cheers, David From jdub@perkypants.org Wed Feb 28 12:33:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B193B0206; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.026 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.026 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.389, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.827, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 2) (up: 11930 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [70.85.31.216] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lOLZvX-YcoyX; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from node.waugh.id.au (node.waugh.id.au [70.85.31.216]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B33B01C6; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (home.waugh.id.au [150.101.121.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by node.waugh.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86563D960; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:33:45 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFD52CD973; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:16:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Guy Johnston Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux Message-ID: <20070228101616.GG1069@ministan.home> Mail-Followup-To: Guy Johnston , Quim Gil , Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.20-8-generic i686 X-Uptime: 21:14:09 up 6 days, 21:49, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.15, 0.10 Reply-By: Sat Mar 3 21:14:09 EST 2007 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:33:55 -0000 > As a different point, I'm often surprised by how many people don't know > that the GNOME project is part of the GNU project (I didn't know that when > I first started using GNU/Linux). > To stop as many people making that mistake, I'd also like it if the > relationship between GNOME and GNU was made more clear on the website. We're a GNU project by association only, not by purpose, leadership or even sponsorship. While we have a good relationship with the FSF, GNOME being a GNU project is not really very relevant for either organisation. We're good at doing different things. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "Whether you want to set fire to old institutions or to build whole new ones, nothing beats a good blog." - Doc Searls From guydjohnston@googlemail.com Tue Feb 27 20:54:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-web-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DBC3B007C for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gib+IhYwP+lu for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BE93B0083 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so361598nfc for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr2487902nfi.1172627664061; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.193? ( [80.6.126.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b33sm2449370ika.2007.02.27.17.54.19; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45E4E0C9.7050708@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:17 +0000 From: Guy Johnston User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quim Gil Subject: Re: Use of the name 'Linux' to refer to GNU/Linux References: <45CF86FD.7000805@googlemail.com> <20070212102157.GD26382@vuntz.net> <45DFA357.4040808@googlemail.com> <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <61595bf30702271338v49326770i7f12bbd0e59ba68a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:27:52 -0500 Cc: Vincent Untz , gnome-web-list@gnome.org, board@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-web-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Website Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:33 -0000 Quim Gil wrote: > We are working hard in order to have a revamped wgo by the GNOME 2.18 > release. Would you mind waiting until the new site is out? This > problem will be fixed there. Personally I putting all my time in the > wgo revamp and I haven't touched the current cvs/svn based wgo since > ages. > > Thank you for your understanding. > > On 2/24/07, Guy Johnston wrote: >> Vincent Untz wrote: >> > Hi Guy, >> > >> > Le dimanche 11 février 2007, à 21:13, Guy Johnston a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've noticed on the home page of the GNOME site, that it reads "GNOME >> >> offers an easy to understand desktop for your Linux or UNIX computer." >> >> The use of the name 'Linux' here is clearly referring to the whole >> >> GNU/Linux operating system, rather than just the Linux kernel. As the >> >> GNOME project is committed to the goals of the free software movement, >> >> and is part of the GNU project (as far as I know), I'd have thought >> the >> >> project leaders would prefer to use the name 'GNU/Linux' for the >> system, >> >> to properly reflect how important the roles of the GNU project and the >> >> ideals of free software are for the development of this operating >> >> system, which I assume is the most common operating system GNOME is >> used >> >> with. Therefore, please considering changing this reference to read >> >> 'GNU/Linux' instead of 'Linux'. >> > >> > We already agreed on this a few months ago: >> > >> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00022.html >> > >> > We only need someone to actually do it, so I'll cc gnome-web-list. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Vincent >> > >> >> Hi, is this being fixed? I've noticed that this still seems to be a >> problem. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Guy >> -- >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/board-list >> >> >From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be >> discussed >> on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential >> information as >> confidential, and do not redistribute this information without >> permission. >> > > OK that sounds good. As a different point, I'm often surprised by how many people don't know that the GNOME project is part of the GNU project (I didn't know that when I first started using GNU/Linux). I've seen GNOME used a few times in a common argument against the use of the name 'GNU/Linux', that there's so many projects that have contributed to the system that GNU doesn't deserve a mention in the name (seemingly regardless of the fact that it's the main contribution). GNOME is sometimes cited in that argument as one of the major contributions to "Linux" which "isn't anything to do with GNU". To stop as many people making that mistake, I'd also like it if the relationship between GNOME and GNU was made more clear on the website. I think that both that suggested change and the use of the name 'GNU/Linux' should be helpful to GNU and the free software movement, even if only very slightly, particularly as GNOME is the default desktop for what seems to be the most popular GNU/Linux distribution at the moment (Ubuntu). I think that's important, as they seem to be getting pushed further and further into obscurity by the open source movement. New users of "Linux" often seem to be surprised and critical when we start talking about how their operating system relates to freedom, and something called GNU which they haven't heard of. The GPL is talked about a fair bit in the mainstream technology media nowadays, but even that's usually called an 'open source licence'. The ideals of software freedom which created it are rarely mentioned, even though its preamble discusses them quite thoroughly. Thanks, Guy