From jimmyc@ndak.net Mon Jun 2 19:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from BASS2.srtnet.com (Bass2.srtnet.com [216.221.96.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236A71821B for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jimmy (dsl-102-81.srtnet.com [216.221.102.81]) by BASS2.srtnet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h52Nk84w012327 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001401c32961$36f52d70$fb01a8c0@jimmy> From: "Jimmy" To: Subject: File association? Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:46:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C32937.4E022790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C32937.4E022790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Not sure if this is the place, but I'll give it a shot. I = recently added a launcher to my desktop. A simple link to a text file. I = wanted to be able to open it up with emacs, but now all my desktop icons = (links) open up with emacs. What gives? I am running redhat 8 with gnome = 2. Any help is appreciated. Thx ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C32937.4E022790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all, Not sure if this is the = place, but I'll=20 give it a shot. I recently added a launcher to my desktop. A simple link = to a=20 text file. I wanted to be able to open it up with emacs, but now all my = desktop=20 icons (links) open up with emacs. What gives? I am running redhat 8 with = gnome=20 2. Any help is appreciated.

Thx

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C32937.4E022790-- From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Tue Jun 3 07:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAF3180E4 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from starsky.internal.phy.duke.edu (user-152-16-65-41.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.65.41]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CE0A780C; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Galeon? From: seth vidal To: Havoc Pennington Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20030529173646.L31351@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <1054176891.26535.3.camel@pinkerton> <20030529003321.E10366@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1054182892.4785.21.camel@binkley> <20030529004219.F10366@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20030529125557.E31351@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1054241926.12137.327.camel@opus.phy.duke.edu> <20030529173646.L31351@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1054641237.3186.16.camel@binkley> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (1.3.92-1) (Preview Release) Date: 03 Jun 2003 07:53:58 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > (I'm writing menu code as we speak...) > Are there any available docs which describe a simple process for editing the menus? Specifically, I'd like to remove the "System Settings" folder from all the machines, hopefully, in some simple config-based way so I don't have to repackage the world to pull it out. The goal is simple "system settings" is root-only and my users never need to run it. They don't have root, they don't need root, and I don't need the menus to run those programs. I'm not looking for a graphical method to edit the menus, I would just like to know if there is a good place for me to look for handling them. -sv From davidkmcw@yahoo.com Tue Jun 3 10:28:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from web41606.mail.yahoo.com (web41606.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.106]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A05DD18BBE for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030603142819.89541.qmail@web41606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.187.242.2] by web41606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:28:19 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David McWilliams Reply-To: davidkmcw@yahoo.com Subject: Desktop Background To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi guys, I'm using Red Hat 9 (Shrike). On earlier versions of Red Hat, I used to use a home made sh script that would go a retrieve an image from a webcam, and display it on the root window using Imagemagick's 'display' utility. I switched off the Gnome background from within Nautilus, under 'Edit... Preferences... Desktop & Trash... Use Nautilus to draw the desktop & Use your home folder to draw the desktop'. Now I am using RH9, with Gnome 2.2, of course, these mneu picks have now gone. Anyone any idea how I can get my root window back. Thanks in advance, David ===== Checkout the McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From alexl@redhat.com Wed Jun 4 03:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFAE187CE for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 03:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h5474P509804; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 03:04:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Desktop Background From: Alexander Larsson To: davidkmcw@yahoo.com Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20030603142819.89541.qmail@web41606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030603142819.89541.qmail@web41606.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1054710264.14733.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Jun 2003 09:04:25 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 16:28, David McWilliams wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm using Red Hat 9 (Shrike). On earlier versions of Red Hat, I used to > use a home made sh script that would go a retrieve an image from a > webcam, and display it on the root window using Imagemagick's 'display' > utility. I switched off the Gnome background from within Nautilus, > under 'Edit... Preferences... Desktop & Trash... Use Nautilus to draw > the desktop & Use your home folder to draw the desktop'. > > Now I am using RH9, with Gnome 2.2, of course, these mneu picks have > now gone. Anyone any idea how I can get my root window back. The preference to remove the desktop window is still there, although not availible in the user interface. Use gcond-editor or gconf-tool to set the /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop key to false. However, to set the background you could also set /desktop/gnome/background/wallpaper-filename and related keys. That way you don't have to lose the desktop functionallity. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl@redhat.com alla@lysator.liu.se He's an obese flyboy rock star living undercover at Ringling Bros. Circus. She's a cynical red-headed fairy princess who believes she is the reincarnation of an ancient Egyptian queen. They fight crime! From katzj@redhat.com Tue Jun 10 14:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AF618634 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mirkwood.devel.redhat.com (mirkwood.devel.redhat.com [172.16.57.122]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h5AIMkx14381 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:22:46 -0400 Subject: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Jeremy Katz To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (cvs 20030602) (Preview Release) Date: 10 Jun 2003 14:22:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ Jeremy From skvidal@phy.duke.edu Tue Jun 10 19:28:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.phy.duke.edu (mail.phy.duke.edu [152.3.182.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB4618C27 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from starsky.internal.phy.duke.edu (rdu57-255-028.nc.rr.com [66.57.255.28]) by mail.phy.duke.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2171CA77D8; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: seth vidal To: Jeremy Katz Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (1.3.92-1) (Preview Release) Date: 10 Jun 2003 19:24:55 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > Do you have srpms for evo somewhere? -sv From satimis@icare.com.hk Tue Jun 10 20:41:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpo01.icare.priv (unknown [203.78.64.148]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BD41844D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpi01.icare.priv ([10.11.12.46]) by smtpo01.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:39:06 +0800 Received: from [203.78.70.176] ([203.78.70.176]) by smtpi01.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:38:46 +0800 Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Stephen Liu To: seth vidal Cc: Jeremy Katz , gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 11 Jun 2003 08:44:49 +0800 Message-Id: <1055292294.1356.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2003 00:38:46.0323 (UTC) FILETIME=[D145B830:01C32FB1] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi folks, If upgrade evolution with "rpm -Uvh" command can the old mail boxes retained without overwritten. If NO, kindly advise how to retain the content of all old mail boxes for ROOT and USER Thanks in advance. B.Regards Stephen Liu On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 07:24, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > > > Do you have srpms for evo somewhere? > > -sv From jimhayward@earthlink.net Wed Jun 11 01:15:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1FB18220 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 01:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from user180.net110.lv.sprint-hsd.net ([208.13.128.180] helo=penguin.linux.localdomain) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19PxxM-0004IC-00 for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:15:32 -0700 Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Jim Hayward To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055308529.14731.23.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 (1.4.0-2) Date: 10 Jun 2003 22:15:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 16:24, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > > > Do you have srpms for evo somewhere? > Evolution 1.4.0-2 SRPMS are in Rawhide already. Along with SRPMS for the dependencies. Regards, Jim H From hampton@employees.org Wed Jun 11 14:16:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from server.rainbolthampton.org (adsl-66-120-162-89.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.120.162.89]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5113618126 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org (hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org [192.168.1.10]) by server.rainbolthampton.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5BIFViX003195; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:15:31 -0700 Received: (from hampton@localhost) by hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5BIFUF0006686; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: David Hampton To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Cc: hampton@employees.org In-Reply-To: <20030611160037.7648.93937.Mailman@moniker.gnome.org> References: <20030611160037.7648.93937.Mailman@moniker.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5Gc9xkNHqwdiFY4YuArX" Organization: Message-Id: <1055355329.5105.3.camel@hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 11 Jun 2003 11:15:29 -0700 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-5Gc9xkNHqwdiFY4YuArX Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 09:00, Jeremy Katz wrote: > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ Do these support syncing with a palm pilot? That was a caveat for all the 1.3.x betas. David --=-5Gc9xkNHqwdiFY4YuArX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+53HAlSwHWMdNRQQRAvRPAJ9amu5Qt0wJGpT7qQpU3vJ5CnfYXgCg7Kye 4Ir9zVgKrZg2pBXmc+Jynic= =UUkz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5Gc9xkNHqwdiFY4YuArX-- From katzj@redhat.com Wed Jun 11 14:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE3E18519 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mirkwood.devel.redhat.com (mirkwood.devel.redhat.com [172.16.57.122]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h5BIdHx16022 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:39:17 -0400 Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Jeremy Katz To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> <1055287494.26020.7.camel@binkley> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055356756.20745.0.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (cvs 20030602) (Preview Release) Date: 11 Jun 2003 14:39:17 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 19:24, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > > > Do you have srpms for evo somewhere? They're in rawhide... trying to prserve quota Jeremy From katzj@redhat.com Wed Jun 11 14:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB17E189F9 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mirkwood.devel.redhat.com (mirkwood.devel.redhat.com [172.16.57.122]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h5BIe9x16474 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:40:09 -0400 Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Jeremy Katz To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055355329.5105.3.camel@hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org> References: <20030611160037.7648.93937.Mailman@moniker.gnome.org> <1055355329.5105.3.camel@hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055356809.20745.2.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (cvs 20030602) (Preview Release) Date: 11 Jun 2003 14:40:09 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 14:15, David Hampton wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 09:00, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > Do these support syncing with a palm pilot? That was a caveat for all > the 1.3.x betas. Yes, pilot syncing has been there since 1.3.2-2 Cheers, Jeremy From autroman@yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 13:20:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from web40901.mail.yahoo.com (web40901.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F68318C33 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030611172017.23665.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.195.31.66] by web40901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:20:17 PDT Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ko chai rong Subject: Gnorpm To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hi... everybody... i am a new guy here... and i am seeking some help from you all... currently i am learning about the installer system in Linux.. and i found the program called Gnorpm is a very interesting program with the graphical base. but i couldn't understand how it is implemented.. even i have a look through its source code... could anyone provide me a complete documentation about its implementation? i just need to know how these people code it.. thanks.. and this piece of program only can deal with .rpm files, right? why dun make it with more powerful feature, that can handle various type of files? anyway... looking for the reply soon... and 10s... ===== KO CHAI ROANG DCS STUDENT __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From vasja@nuedi.si Wed Jun 11 17:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from sputnik.nuedi.com (unknown [212.30.84.60]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A2F1825B; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by sputnik.nuedi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5BLZXU22006; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:35:33 +0200 From: Vasja J Zupan X-Authentication-Warning: sputnik.nuedi.com: nobody set sender to vasja@nuedi.si using -f Received: from 193.77.149.61 ( [193.77.149.61]) as user vasja@localhost by mail.nuedi.si with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:35:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1055367333.3ee7a0a5d6dc0@mail.nuedi.si> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:35:33 +0200 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome crash after evolution update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 193.77.149.61 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, On my RedHat 8.0 laptop, I've updated evo with red-carpet (1.2.4 -> 1.4). after update all gnome apps (inclouding gnome-terminal) crash with: (gnome-terminal:1354): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' ed-carpet crashes when I click on either "installed software" "Available soft.", channels ..., but i can access "Updates" and History. I've tried to reinstall old Redhat packages, but this did not help. I alos uninstalled evolution. If gnome apps alre started from shell as root, they work. With all other users on system all apps crash. Kde is ok too. I've attached stack trace for gnome-terminal and gnome-control-center Thank you for your help! Best regards, vasja Starting program: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal [New Thread 16384 (LWP 1457)] (gnome-terminal:1457): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 1457)] 0x40947dca in g_datalist_id_get_data () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (gdb) (gdb) thread apply all bt Thread 1 (Thread 16384 (LWP 1457)): #0 0x40947dca in g_datalist_id_get_data () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0x408b619b in g_object_notify_queue_freeze () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #2 0x408b2760 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #3 0x408b288d in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #4 0x4050ad62 in gtk_widget_new (type=134999352, first_property_name=0x0) at gtkwidget.c:1461 #5 0x40252b95 in gnome_window_icon_init () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #6 0x4027a3c5 in _SmcProcessMessage () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 #7 0x40286a78 in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 #8 0x40230cf5 in gnome_href_set_label () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #9 0x4097e23d in g_io_unix_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #10 0x409598e8 in g_main_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #11 0x4095a951 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #12 0x4095ad82 in g_main_context_iterate () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #13 0x4095b5c8 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #14 0x4043dee3 in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1091 #15 0x08058256 in main () #16 0x409bb4ed in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y [vasja@leptopici vasja]$ gdb gnome-control-center GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (5.2.1-4) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"...(no debugging symbols found)... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/gnome-control-center [New Thread 16384 (LWP 1535)] FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 (gnome-control-center:1535): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 1535)] 0x40792dca in g_datalist_id_get_data () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (gdb) (gdb) thread apply all bt Thread 1 (Thread 16384 (LWP 1535)): #0 0x40792dca in g_datalist_id_get_data () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0x4070219b in g_object_notify_queue_freeze () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #2 0x406fe760 in g_object_newv () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #3 0x406fe88d in g_object_new_valist () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #4 0x40356d62 in gtk_widget_new (type=135666272, first_property_name=0x0) at gtkwidget.c:1461 #5 0x400beb95 in gnome_window_icon_init () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #6 0x407f53c5 in _SmcProcessMessage () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 #7 0x40802a78 in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 #8 0x4009ccf5 in gnome_href_set_label () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #9 0x407c923d in g_io_unix_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #10 0x407a48e8 in g_main_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #11 0x407a5951 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #12 0x407a5d82 in g_main_context_iterate () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #13 0x407a65c8 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #14 0x40289ee3 in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1091 #15 0x0804b8e1 in main () #16 0x409054ed in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From otaylor@redhat.com Thu Jun 12 09:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873B718DC2; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vpn50-40.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-40.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.40]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h5CDhAK12514; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:43:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Gnome crash after evolution update From: Owen Taylor To: Vasja J Zupan Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055367333.3ee7a0a5d6dc0@mail.nuedi.si> References: <1055367333.3ee7a0a5d6dc0@mail.nuedi.si> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1055425368.11857.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-0) Date: 12 Jun 2003 09:42:48 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 17:35, Vasja J Zupan wrote: > Hi, > On my RedHat 8.0 laptop, I've updated evo with red-carpet (1.2.4 -> 1.4). after > update all gnome apps (inclouding gnome-terminal) crash with: > (gnome-terminal:1354): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of > abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' > ed-carpet crashes when I click on either "installed software" "Available > soft.", channels ..., but i can access "Updates" and History. > > I've tried to reinstall old Redhat packages, but this did not help. I alos > uninstalled evolution. > > If gnome apps alre started from shell as root, they work. With all other users > on system all apps crash. Kde is ok too. > > I've attached stack trace for gnome-terminal and gnome-control-center Updating to libgnomeui from Red Hat 9 will fix this problem, though you should report this problem to Ximian ... if they update GTK+, they need to update libgnomeui as well to a version compatible with GTK+-2.2. Regards, Owen From otaylor@redhat.com Thu Jun 12 10:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91C318DED; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vpn50-40.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-40.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.40]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h5CEdcK18684; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:39:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Gnome crash after evolution update From: Owen Taylor To: Vasja J Zupan Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055427930.3ee88d5ad46b1@mail.nuedi.si> References: <1055367333.3ee7a0a5d6dc0@mail.nuedi.si> <1055425368.11857.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1055427930.3ee88d5ad46b1@mail.nuedi.si> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1055428756.11857.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-0) Date: 12 Jun 2003 10:39:16 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 10:25, Vasja J Zupan wrote: > well, I did write to ximian list, but there was no answer till now. > > regarding upgrade: upgrading to libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5.i386.rpm from RH 9.0 CD > requires a whole bunch of other upgrades. > Is there any other solution??? ??? > Well, Ximian presumably has a libgnomeui-2.2.x as part of XD2 if they support Red Hat 8. I can't really give you any guidance about installing it or upgrading to it. I don't think running evolution-1.4 on top of the gnome-2.0 libraries is going to work very well, even with GTK+ upgraded, so I would recommend upgrading to Red Hat 9. Ximian Desktop 2 would be another possibility. Regards, Owen > Failed dependencies: > GConf2 >= 2.1.90 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > ORBit2 >= 2.5.1 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > XFree86-libs >= 4.2.99 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > bonobo-activation >= 2.1.0 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > glib2 >= 2.2.0 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > gnome-vfs2 >= 2.1.6 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > gtk2 >= 2.2.0 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > libbonobo >= 2.1.0 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > libbonoboui >= 2.1.2 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > libgnome >= 2.1.90 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > libxml2 >= 2.5 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > pango >= 1.2.0 is needed by libgnomeui-2.2.0.1-5 > > Which means new Xfree, new gnome (2.2) which somehow is not cool! > As I'm desperet to get evo working, Ill upgrade to RH9 (which I really do not > want to do right now :((( > I'm prepearing backups "as we speak"... > > Tahnk you for your help > Best regards, > Vasja > > > > > > Quoting Owen Taylor : > > > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 17:35, Vasja J Zupan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > On my RedHat 8.0 laptop, I've updated evo with red-carpet (1.2.4 -> 1.4). > > after > > > update all gnome apps (inclouding gnome-terminal) crash with: > > > (gnome-terminal:1354): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of > > > abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' > > > ed-carpet crashes when I click on either "installed software" "Available > > > soft.", channels ..., but i can access "Updates" and History. > > > > > > I've tried to reinstall old Redhat packages, but this did not help. I alos > > > uninstalled evolution. > > > > > > If gnome apps alre started from shell as root, they work. With all other > > users > > > on system all apps crash. Kde is ok too. > > > > > > I've attached stack trace for gnome-terminal and gnome-control-center > > > > Updating to libgnomeui from Red Hat 9 will fix this problem, > > though you should report this problem to Ximian ... if they update GTK+, > > they need to update libgnomeui as well to a version compatible with > > GTK+-2.2. > > > > Regards, > > Owen > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > From toralf@procaptura.com Fri Jun 13 03:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA27918F03 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 03:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=indonesia.kscanners.no) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Qiss-0001vv-00 for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:22:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:21:59 +0200 From: Toralf Lund To: Red Hat GNOME List Subject: Panel applet: Menu missing + problems debugging Message-ID: <20030613072159.GA5760@indonesia.kscanners.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.2 Lines: 32 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Asked this question on gnome-list@gnome.org, but no response yet, so I thought I might try here: I have developed an GNOME 2 panel applet (or rather, ported it from GNOME 1) that works mostly fine, but the right-click menu isn't displayed. The code I'm using to add the menu is included below (there will actually be more buttons, but I'm trying the simple case first.) Can anyone find anything wrong with it? Also the main reason why I can't get it to work is that I don't know how to debug a panel applet. What can I do if I want to display debug output from it, or run it through a debugger? static const BonoboUIVerb menuVerbs[] = { BONOBO_UI_VERB("IntranetAbout", about), BONOBO_UI_VERB_END }; static const char menu[]="\n" " \n" " \n" " \n" " \n" " \n" "\n"; panel_applet_setup_menu(PANEL_APPLET(applet), menu, menuVerbs, applet); -- - Toralf From toralf@procaptura.com Fri Jun 13 05:32:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3638F18F5A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 05:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=indonesia.kscanners.no) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19QkvQ-0004jS-00 for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:32:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:32:45 +0200 From: Toralf Lund To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Panel applet: Menu missing + problems debugging Message-ID: <20030613093245.GA17433@indonesia.kscanners.no> References: <20030613072159.GA5760@indonesia.kscanners.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030613072159.GA5760@indonesia.kscanners.no>; from toralf@procaptura.com on Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:21:59 +0200 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.2 Lines: 27 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Asked this question on gnome-list@gnome.org, but no response yet, so I > thought I might try here: > > I have developed an GNOME 2 panel applet (or rather, ported it from > GNOME 1) that works mostly fine, but the right-click menu isn't > displayed. The code I'm using to add the menu is included below (there > will actually be more buttons, but I'm trying the simple case first.) > Can anyone find anything wrong with it? Also the main reason why I can't > get it to work is that I don't know how to debug a panel applet. What > can I do if I want to display debug output from it, or run it through a > debugger? [ ... ] I figured it out eventually. First of all, the XML tree presented wasn't quite correct - apparently, " ... " shouldn't be included in this case. I tried with and without them, though, and the menu failed to be popped up in both cases. However, the menu failure turned out to be a result of the way I'd set up my widget tree. The applet contained a pixmap within a button - I don't remember why, but perhaps this was necessary in GNOME-1. Apparently, the button caused mouse clicks to be mapped the wrong way or something so that the popup would fail. I have now changed the layout so that the pixmap is added directly to the applet widget, and the menu shows up just fine now. The callbacks still don't do what I expected, though - I *really* need the debug support to be able to figure out what is going on. - Toralf From cdvr@pobox.com Tue Jun 17 04:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (asgaard.lystrup.terma.com [193.163.1.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725C518515 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from munin.leiden.terma.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h5H8p1Q31807 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:51:02 +0200 Received: from leiden.terma.com (frc1-s.leiden.terma.com [10.1.20.84]) by munin.leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h5H8p1q19609 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:51:02 +0200 Received: (from cro@localhost) by leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id h5H8oUk24226; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:50:30 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: frc1-s.leiden.terma.com: cro set sender to cdvr@pobox.com using -f Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Chris Rouch To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-9.7x.1) Date: 17 Jun 2003 10:50:30 +0200 Message-Id: <1055839830.24170.5.camel@frc1-s> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 20:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > Jeremy > > Mostly this seems to be really slick, but I have one major problem and one gripe - with evolution, not with the packaging. The problem: The emacs keybindings seem to have disappeared. Is there a way to get them back? I've looked in the control panel and gconf-editor but don't see anything appropriate. The gripe: The only way I could find to get a CC: line that wasn't in my address book was to use gconf-editor to re-enable the CC input box. Did I miss something or is this deliberate? Thanks and regards, Chris From jonpryor@vt.edu Tue Jun 17 10:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.153]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F501838A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from balthasar.magi (roc-24-169-205-133.rochester.rr.com [24.169.205.133]) by ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5HEkGs4006023; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Jonathan Pryor To: Chris Rouch Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055839830.24170.5.camel@frc1-s> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> <1055839830.24170.5.camel@frc1-s> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1055861143.2475.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 17 Jun 2003 10:45:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The easy question first: to enable the Cc: field (and Bcc, and Reply-To), open a new email message and click View->Cc Field, View->Bcc Field, etc. They're all in the View menu. As for emacs keybindings, you probably need to go to the Keyboard Shortcuts preferences panel (Applications->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts), and change the "Text editing shortcuts" drop-down to Emacs. However, this "solution" appears to be problematic, as the application gets to handle keypresses before the text widget. Thus, Alt+F (M-F) opens the File menu, instead of moving forward a word, Ctrl+A selects all text, instead of moving the cursor to the beginning of the line, etc. Keypresses that aren't handled by the application (e.g. Ctrl+B in gedit) are passed through to the text widget. In short, this seems to be a Gnome issue more than an Evolution issue. The only possible solution I can think of is to change the default shortcut modifiers so they don't conflict with Emacs modifiers. For example, instead of using Alt+ to open a menu, use the Windows key, e.g. Win+. This doesn't handle the use of Ctrl, though. I suspect there is no real solution to this (except, possibly, having the text box handle keypresses before the application, which could lead to more confusion). Sorry. A possible "least relearning involved" solution is to require the introduction of a normally unused modifier (the Windows key), so Win is used instead of Alt, and Win+Ctrl is used instead of Ctrl. This would allow Win+F to move forward by words (instead of Alt+F), and Win+Ctrl+E would move to the end of the line (instead of Ctrl+E). Certainly not ideal, but the only solution I can think of that would permit faster text entry (instead of needing to move the hands to use the arrow keys). Alas, this would likely require changes to Gtk+, so if this were to happen, Gtk+ 2.6 (May of next year?) is the earliest it could appear. :-( - Jon On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 04:50, Chris Rouch wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 20:22, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/evolution/ > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > Mostly this seems to be really slick, but I have one major problem and > one gripe - with evolution, not with the packaging. > > The problem: The emacs keybindings seem to have disappeared. Is there a > way to get them back? I've looked in the control panel and gconf-editor > but don't see anything appropriate. > > The gripe: The only way I could find to get a CC: line that wasn't in my > address book was to use gconf-editor to re-enable the CC input box. Did > I miss something or is this deliberate? > > Thanks and regards, > > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-redhat-list mailing list > gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list From toralf@procaptura.com Thu Jun 19 03:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9818214 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 03:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=indonesia.kscanners.no) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19SuCC-0006Fq-00 for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:51:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:50:57 +0200 From: Toralf Lund To: Red Hat GNOME List Subject: Fwd: Dynamically building panel applet popup menu Message-ID: <20030619075057.GC23233@indonesia.kscanners.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.2 Lines: 79 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: message/rfc822; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Envelope-to: toralf@procaptura.com Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:32:14 -0700 Received: from moniker.gnome.org ([209.116.70.73] helo=mail.gnome.org) by praha.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19Sdyv-00jTZD-00 for toralf@procaptura.com; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:32:14 -0700 Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2568187A6; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6573018143 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=indonesia.kscanners.no) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Sdy8-0000zU-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:31:24 +0200 From: Toralf Lund To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Dynamically building panel applet popup menu Message-ID: <20030618143121.GA2576@indonesia.kscanners.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.4.2 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:31:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:31:21 +0200 My panel applet problem (see previous posts) from yet another angle: What I want to do is build a menu in a dynamic fashion, as opposed to from a static XML string or file. The exact contents of the menu depends on a config file. (The config is *not* a direct description of the menu, but details on the menu can be derived from it.) In GNOME 1 this was straight forward as the menu was built one item at a time anyway, but with GNOME-2 it turns out to be quite tricky. I'm trying to incrementally build an XML string, then call panel_applet_setup_menu() as usual, but it doesn't work out right as I can't find a way to distinguish the menu items from each other in my callback. I could use an unique verb for each item, but then would have to build the BonoboUIVerb list dynamically, too, and the code would be starting to look quite horrible... Is there a better way to go about this? - Toralf _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From cdvr@pobox.com Thu Jun 19 05:54:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (asgaard.lystrup.terma.com [193.163.1.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1518A86 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from munin.leiden.terma.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h5J9srT06246 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:54:53 +0200 Received: from leiden.terma.com (frc1-s.leiden.terma.com [10.1.20.84]) by munin.leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h5J9ssq31926 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:54:54 +0200 Received: (from cro@localhost) by leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id h5J9sMm03119; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:54:22 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: frc1-s.leiden.terma.com: cro set sender to cdvr@pobox.com using -f Subject: Re: evolution 1.4.0 packages for Red Hat Linux 9 From: Chris Rouch To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1055861143.2475.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055269365.24222.182.camel@mirkwood.devel.redhat.com> <1055839830.24170.5.camel@frc1-s> <1055861143.2475.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-9.7x.1) Date: 19 Jun 2003 11:54:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1056016462.27394.15.camel@frc1-s> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:45, Jonathan Pryor wrote: > The easy question first: to enable the Cc: field (and Bcc, and > Reply-To), open a new email message and click View->Cc Field, View->Bcc > Field, etc. They're all in the View menu. Obvious really - I should have spotted this. > > As for emacs keybindings, you probably need to go to the Keyboard > Shortcuts preferences panel (Applications->Preferences->Keyboard > Shortcuts), and change the "Text editing shortcuts" drop-down to Emacs. > > However, this "solution" appears to be problematic, as the application > gets to handle keypresses before the text widget. Thus, Alt+F (M-F) > opens the File menu, instead of moving forward a word, Ctrl+A selects > all text, instead of moving the cursor to the beginning of the line, > etc. Keypresses that aren't handled by the application (e.g. Ctrl+B in > gedit) are passed through to the text widget. Thanks for that. This seems to be exactly the wrong place for this option - I'd say keyboard shortcuts refer to menu items not to a text widget. As you say evolution seems to see the ctrl-a etc before the text widget does. Under gnome 1.4/evolution 1.08/redhat 7.2 which is what I use at work the "select all" menu item still claims to have ctrl-a as a shortcut, but with emacs mode enabled, ctrl-a does what I expect - moves the cursor to the beginning of the line. IMO a good use for the keboard shortcuts menu would be to allow a user to set arbitrary key binding to a set of common actions (select all, undo, redo etc). I remember being able to do this on the fly with some Gtk applications by pressing the desired keys when the menu option was highlighted, though I can't get evolution to do it. > In short, this seems to be a Gnome issue more than an Evolution issue. > The only possible solution I can think of is to change the default > shortcut modifiers so they don't conflict with Emacs modifiers. For > example, instead of using Alt+ to open a menu, use the Windows > key, e.g. Win+. This doesn't handle the use of Ctrl, though. > I suspect there is no real solution to this (except, possibly, having > the text box handle keypresses before the application, which could lead > to more confusion). Sorry. I don't recall this behaviour on the evolution that came with rh9 though (It's possible that I just didn't notice 'cos my main box was running 7.2 until last weekend), which would imply that it's an evo problem. Either way it's a bug, it's just a matter of which bugzilla it gets filed in. Chris From cpinto@yimports.com Fri Jun 20 18:31:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.yimports.com (cb.at.privatehosts.com [81.92.202.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68DF1860A for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 195-23-8-75.nr.ip.pt (unknown [195.23.8.75]) by mail.yimports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7D496C5 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:30:33 +0100 (WEST) Subject: Gnome 2.2 freezes on logout From: Celso Pinto To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1056148275.6051.7.camel@cpinto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 20 Jun 2003 23:31:15 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I don't know if this is a common problem, but i've looked everywhere else and can't find a solution. I installed RedHat 9 which uses Gnome 2.2 and afterwards I upgraded the system using up2date. Now, everytime I click on the logout button the window system freezes. There are a couple of other windows that also don't open - like Print Manager, and OpenOffice.org takes forever to show up. On another computer I have I didn't upgrade the packages and I have no problem at all so I relate this problem to having upgrade the packages. Is there a solution for this problem? What can be done, besides formatting my hard-drive and installing everything again? I'd really appreciate if anyone has some kind of solution to share. Thanks in advance, Celso From menthos@menthos.com Sat Jun 21 16:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.g.bonet.se (mail.g.bonet.se [212.181.52.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0928E1838D for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from as2-4-1.for.hs.bonet.se (as2-4-1.for.hs.bonet.se [194.236.236.153]) by mail.g.bonet.se (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LKhH6I078604; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:43:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from menthos@menthos.com) Subject: Re: Gnome 2.2 freezes on logout From: Christian Rose To: Celso Pinto Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1056148275.6051.7.camel@cpinto> References: <1056148275.6051.7.camel@cpinto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Message-Id: <1056228365.10905.144.camel@stina.menthos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 21 Jun 2003 22:46:05 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: l�r 2003-06-21 klockan 00.31 skrev Celso Pinto: > I don't know if this is a common problem, but i've looked everywhere > else and can't find a solution. I installed RedHat 9 which uses Gnome > 2.2 and afterwards I upgraded the system using up2date. > > Now, everytime I click on the logout button the window system freezes. Sounds like a problem with XFree86. What video hardware do you have, and what driver do you use? Christian From cpinto@yimports.com Sat Jun 21 18:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.yimports.com (cb.at.privatehosts.com [81.92.202.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3647918526 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 213-205-65-8.nr.ip.pt (213-205-65-8.nr.ip.pt [213.205.65.8]) by mail.yimports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5A096C7; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:06:06 +0100 (WEST) Subject: Re: Gnome 2.2 freezes on logout From: Celso Pinto To: Christian Rose Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1056228365.10905.144.camel@stina.menthos.com> References: <1056148275.6051.7.camel@cpinto> <1056228365.10905.144.camel@stina.menthos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Message-Id: <1056233211.12122.6.camel@cpinto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 21 Jun 2003 23:06:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, actually I sorted out the problem. Searching some newsgroups I found a command "gnome-save-session --kill" that is used to close the gnome session. I used that command but it freezed. Doing a gnome-save-session --kill --disable-sound it worked perfectly so I figured that there was something wrong with the sound configuration. I opened Soundcard detection and noticed that the "Enable sound daemon" checkbox was off, and I selected it. Now logout works perfectly. I must say i'm a bit amazed because I can't see a direct relation between both. Still have one problem though, when i logout and try to login with another user (even the same user) Gnome hangs when displaying the splash screen, before any completed tasks show up (like launching the window manager). My video card is Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 and i'm using their latest drivers (1.0-4363). Thanks again, Celso On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:46, Christian Rose wrote: > l�r 2003-06-21 klockan 00.31 skrev Celso Pinto: > > I don't know if this is a common problem, but i've looked everywhere > > else and can't find a solution. I installed RedHat 9 which uses Gnome > > 2.2 and afterwards I upgraded the system using up2date. > > > > Now, everytime I click on the logout button the window system freezes. > > Sounds like a problem with XFree86. What video hardware do you have, and > what driver do you use? > > > Christian From MAgrawal@coba.usf.edu Mon Jun 23 12:13:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from coba.coba.usf.edu (mail.coba.usf.edu [131.247.95.250]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABE118977 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.coba.usf.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:13:22 -0400 Message-ID: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC07B8@mail.coba.usf.edu> From: "Agrawal, Manish" To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: How to find Gnome version Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:13:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: How do I know what version of Gnome I am using? I upgraded from Redhat = 8.0 to Redhat 9.0 and help says that it is help for Gnome 2.0. But this = thread suggests that it is 2.2. Also, would appreciate help in being directed to the appropriate = mailing list for Redhat beginners. Thanks Manish -----Original Message----- From: Celso Pinto [mailto:cpinto@yimports.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:07 PM To: Christian Rose Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.2 freezes on logout Hi, actually I sorted out the problem. Searching some newsgroups I found a command "gnome-save-session --kill" that is used to close the gnome = session. I used that command but it freezed. Doing a gnome-save-session --kill --disable-sound it worked perfectly so I figured that there was = something wrong with the sound configuration. I opened Soundcard detection and = noticed that the "Enable sound daemon" checkbox was off, and I selected it. Now logout works perfectly.=20 I must say i'm a bit amazed because I can't see a direct relation = between both. Still have one problem though, when i logout and try to login = with another user (even the same user) Gnome hangs when displaying the = splash screen, before any completed tasks show up (like launching the window manager). My video card is Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 and i'm using their latest = drivers (1.0-4363). Thanks again, Celso On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:46, Christian Rose wrote: > l=F6r 2003-06-21 klockan 00.31 skrev Celso Pinto: > > I don't know if this is a common problem, but i've looked = everywhere=20 > > else and can't find a solution. I installed RedHat 9 which uses=20 > > Gnome 2.2 and afterwards I upgraded the system using up2date. > >=20 > > Now, everytime I click on the logout button the window system=20 > > freezes. >=20 > Sounds like a problem with XFree86. What video hardware do you have,=20 > and what driver do you use? >=20 >=20 > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-redhat-list mailing list gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list From cpinto@yimports.com Mon Jun 23 12:19:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.yimports.com (cb.at.privatehosts.com [81.92.202.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC6518223 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpinto (ns2.quadriga.pt [80.251.161.98]) by mail.yimports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8CE96C5 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:17:25 +0100 (WEST) From: "Celso Pinto" To: Subject: RE: How to find Gnome version Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:20:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c339a3$6692b910$7800a8c0@cpinto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <00A42578900AD411BCFD00A0C978DC9304DC07B8@mail.coba.usf.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I usually use rpm -q gnome- and it outputs the version as well. Regards, Celso Pinto -----Original Message----- From: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Agrawal, Manish Sent: segunda-feira, 23 de Junho de 2003 17:13 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: How to find Gnome version How do I know what version of Gnome I am using? I upgraded from Redhat 8.0 to Redhat 9.0 and help says that it is help for Gnome 2.0. But this thread suggests that it is 2.2. Also, would appreciate help in being directed to the appropriate mailing list for Redhat beginners. Thanks Manish -----Original Message----- From: Celso Pinto [mailto:cpinto@yimports.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:07 PM To: Christian Rose Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.2 freezes on logout Hi, actually I sorted out the problem. Searching some newsgroups I found a command "gnome-save-session --kill" that is used to close the gnome session. I used that command but it freezed. Doing a gnome-save-session --kill --disable-sound it worked perfectly so I figured that there was something wrong with the sound configuration. I opened Soundcard detection and noticed that the "Enable sound daemon" checkbox was off, and I selected it. Now logout works perfectly.=20 I must say i'm a bit amazed because I can't see a direct relation between both. Still have one problem though, when i logout and try to login with another user (even the same user) Gnome hangs when displaying the splash screen, before any completed tasks show up (like launching the window manager). My video card is Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 and i'm using their latest drivers (1.0-4363). Thanks again, Celso On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 21:46, Christian Rose wrote: > l=F6r 2003-06-21 klockan 00.31 skrev Celso Pinto: > > I don't know if this is a common problem, but i've looked everywhere > > else and can't find a solution. I installed RedHat 9 which uses=20 > > Gnome 2.2 and afterwards I upgraded the system using up2date. > >=20 > > Now, everytime I click on the logout button the window system > > freezes. >=20 > Sounds like a problem with XFree86. What video hardware do you have, > and what driver do you use? >=20 >=20 > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-redhat-list mailing list gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list _______________________________________________ gnome-redhat-list mailing list gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list From biff6007@yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 08:52:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from web41607.mail.yahoo.com (web41607.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.107]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0ADC2182FC for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030624125219.26399.qmail@web41607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.107.132.78] by web41607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:52:19 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:52:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Richard Subject: fonts ..... To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've got my new Redhat 8 box up and running with Gnome 2. Problem is, I hate the way the fonts look on my LCD. They're too thick/heavy. How can I make all my fonts "thinner" I tried turning of anti-aliasing, that just made the fonts look jagged. Tried GDK_USE_XFT = 0, that gave me all the old fonts, as they used to look in Gnome 1.4, but with a very noticible performance hit. There's got to be some setting that controls the weight of all fonts, something in fonts.conf ?? Any ideas anyone ? thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From cpinto@yimports.com Tue Jun 24 09:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.yimports.com (cb.at.privatehosts.com [81.92.202.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D018276 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpinto (ns2.quadriga.pt [80.251.161.98]) by mail.yimports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6E796C7 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:17:48 +0100 (WEST) From: "Celso Pinto" To: Subject: RE: fonts ..... Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c33a53$78ba55c0$7800a8c0@cpinto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030624125219.26399.qmail@web41607.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm using an LCD too and found that is very important to use XFont Server (it runs by default on a standard instalation of RedHat 9) so I'd go with it. So, if you aren't running XFont Server give it a shot. Also, if you want, use Microsoft Fonts with it - I generally use them and they look slightly better. Hope this helps, Celso=20 -----Original Message----- From: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org] On Behalf Of James Richard Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 24 de Junho de 2003 13:52 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: fonts ..... I've got my new Redhat 8 box up and running with Gnome 2. Problem is, I hate the way the fonts look on my LCD. They're too thick/heavy. How can I make all my fonts "thinner"=20 I tried turning of anti-aliasing, that just made the fonts look jagged. Tried GDK_USE_XFT =3D 0, that gave me all the old fonts, as they used to look in Gnome 1.4, but with a very noticible performance hit. There's got to be some setting that controls the weight of all fonts, something in fonts.conf ?? Any ideas anyone ? thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ gnome-redhat-list mailing list gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list From jshoppa@acad.stedwards.edu Thu Jun 26 22:50:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from acad.stedwards.edu (acad.stedwards.edu [209.99.108.103]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277FF18381 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 90-net37.stedwards.edu (90-net37.stedwards.edu [10.37.0.90]) by acad.stedwards.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5R2otUa007639 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gtk themes w/ redhat 9 From: Clayton To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1056682255.15965.8.camel@90-net37.stedwards.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 26 Jun 2003 21:50:55 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've just finished installing RedHat 9. I am having some trouble installing new themes. When using gnome-theme-manager (from control-center-2.2.0.1-9), installation of new themes always seems to fail. The themes already installed work well enough, but themes I download from http://themes.freshmeat.net or http://art.gnome.org are never successful. No error message is generated -- instead, the new themes never show up in the list of installed themes. Manually editing the gtkrc files in my home directory doesn't seem to work either. I have also tried gtk-theme-switch-2.0.0rc2 with the same results. I will be happy to provide any additional information. Thanks for any help . . . Clayton -- jshoppa at acad dot stedwards dot edu From hrvoje@despammed.com Fri Jun 27 05:31:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from ls401.hinet.hr (ls401.hinet.hr [195.29.150.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B3118F04 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 05:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from despammed.com (ar1-m179.net.hinet.hr [195.29.64.179]) by ls401.hinet.hr (0.0.0/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5R9V9hJ015502 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:31:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3EFC0C73.1020304@despammed.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:20:51 +0200 From: Hrvoje Blazevic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, hr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Default WM for Gnome in RH 9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ls401.hinet.hr 1056706270 15569 195.29.64.179 (Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:31:10 +0200) Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Although I spent an hour or so, looking through RH (9.0) docs CD, I could not find the info on how to disable the Metacity WM, and enable Sawfish. The end result is that I have to use KDE instead of Gnome. I find Metacity "politically" unacceptable. Reminds me of M$, where the attitude is: "You the user might think that you know what is good for you, but you are really an idiot, and we (the M$) know what's best for you. Therefore we will not allow you to set up the foculs policy as you want it, because we just know that the click to foucus is the best!" BTW: I do know that Metacity does allow focus follows mouse, but makes it *unusable* by not allowing the user to disable raising of the window when the client area is clicked. So, I need help: how to disable Metacity, and make Sawfish the default WM? -- Hrvoje From shochat@acm.org Fri Jun 27 07:11:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from rwcrmhc13.attbi.com (unknown [204.127.198.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5995A18160 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from acm.org (h000102728004.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.31.105.53](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20030627111059015005t4ame>; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:10:59 +0000 Message-ID: <3EFC2642.5000307@acm.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:10:58 -0400 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hrvoje Blazevic Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Default WM for Gnome in RH 9 References: <3EFC0C73.1020304@despammed.com> In-Reply-To: <3EFC0C73.1020304@despammed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hrvoje Blazevic wrote: > Hi, > > Although I spent an hour or so, looking through RH (9.0) docs CD, I > could not find the info on how to disable the Metacity WM, and enable > Sawfish. > I had exactly the same question when I first got RH8 and got an answer on this list from Havoc Pennington. Here is what he said (it worked). I can tell you that my wife uses Sawfish and I use Metacity under RH9 (she likes the greater choice of window decorations and doesn't mind the fact that it forgets the number of workspaces when you log out). I was amazed that when I brought up RH9, there still was no simple way to choose which WM you want. Maybe RH10? Back in earlier RH versions, it was easy and obvious. -- David Havoc Pennington wrote on 10/19/2002: >You change WM the same way you change any other default app in the >session - kill the current one, start a new one, save the session. >Or edit ~/.gnome2/session directly. > >You can try "killall metacity; sawfish" followed by >"gnome-session-save" though metacity will respawn, sometimes before >sawfish starts; so you may have to try a couple times. Or another way >is to open "gnome-session-properties" and remove metacity from the >session that way, maybe after doing "sleep 20 && sawfish" in a >terminal. > >It's cleaner if the WM you want to switch to supports "-replace" or >"--replace", then you can do something like: > > fvwm2 -replace > gnome-session-save > >without all the killall business. That's really the intended way for >it to work. > >Havoc > From maxwax@speakeasy.net Mon Jun 30 16:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from tyan.doghouse.com (dsl092-148-080.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.148.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131FA18A16 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tyan.doghouse.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tyan.doghouse.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h5UK8nQh032732 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:08:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (maxwell@localhost) by tyan.doghouse.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UK8nos032728 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:08:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: tyan.doghouse.com: maxwell owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Maxwell Spangler X-X-Sender: maxwell@tyan.doghouse.com To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: HELP w/GNOME Menu Customization in Panels (RH8+GNOME2.0.1) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: