From dmcglone@ameritech.net Wed Feb 28 21:12:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DB2CF0A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net ([64.108.97.88]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010301021159.THVD1581.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@mailhost.col.ameritech.net> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:11:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:10:49 -0500 From: David McGlone To: Gnome Message-ID: <20010228211049.A2535@buddy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 594 Lines: 19 Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello everyone, I downloaded the C/C++ compiler and I need to know what the include path is, and the library path for the compiler to be able to compile. I belive the library files would be /usr/lib, and the include would be /usr/include. I am programming in C++ using GCC on RH 7. can anyone help me out here? TIA -- =================================================================== David M. ICQ: 96210352 AIM: dmcg295308 ==================================================================== /usr/games/fortune: The way some people find fault, you'd think there is some kind of reward From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Wed Feb 28 22:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994962BB01 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (tot-tl.proxy.aol.com [152.163.207.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA03885 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9F82B9.ipt.aol.com [172.159.130.185]) by tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f213DPE08395 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9DBC27.6060400@seznam.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:04:07 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list Subject: gnome-utils-1.3.1 undeclared variable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
I'm trying to make  gnome-utils-1.3.1  under  debian linux potato 2.2rev2.
Compiler reports undeclared variable "PIXEL_SIZE_STANDARD"  in "gdictsrc/gdict-applet.c" .
Do you have any suggestions where the variable should be declared?  It is used only once in whole gdict utility.
Thanks for any help   -SCUD
P.S. I have found no bug reports!???
From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:37:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FCA2E32D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:37:43 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B6B7BF0:01C0A209] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it throws this error: gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! A downloaded file could not be unzipped. If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 01:29:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982352BC8C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:29:24 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: jacksondorado@hotmail.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 06:29:24.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[F58C95C0:01C0A218] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I got the helix-installer to run but then the install crashed with these errors: Installer extracted into/var/cache/helix-install/installer. Running with arguments: Distribution: Red Hat Linux 6.2 ## gtkhtml-WARNING **: Couldn't find keybinding file -- /gnome/share/gtkhtml/keybin dingsrc.emacs ** WARNING **: Fatal transfer error: Transfer failed: Data connection: Bad file descriptor. gnome_segv: error in loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: NO such file or directory ==>Cleaning up temporary files...done. ## I have tried to install GNOME from the 6.2 CD but always got errors that many, many '.so' files were missing. I thought installing over the internet would be different :( thanks for any help. >From: "jackson dorado" >To: gnome-list@gnome.org >Subject: installer error >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 > >Hi, > >I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red >Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it >throws this error: > >gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! >A downloaded file could not be unzipped. > > >If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. > >thanks. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >gnome-list mailing list >gnome-list@gnome.org >http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Thu Mar 1 08:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766272BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust212.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.212]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12818 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:49:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A9E5744.EAD43F5F@linuxfreak.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:56 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME and BIOS problems References: <200102221853.f1MIru601731@aarongraham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Aaron Graham wrote: > > Whenever I tweak a BIOS setting, GNOME reverts to some set of default > settings, and I can't change certain attributes in the Control Center. > For instance, I can't switch to certain Sawfish window manager themes, > such as Gleam and CoolClean (although I can switch to microGUI and > gtk), my panel pager applet suddenly switches back to 1 workspace, and > I can't save session settings. This happens every time I tweak the > BIOS. > > Yesterday everything spontaneously began to work again, but then I had > to change another bios setting this morning (I just got a new memory > module). > > I have a TYAN Trinity 400 motherboard and Kingston 256MB mem module, > along with a 933 MHz pentium III, all designed for a 133 MHz memory > bus speed. > > Any experts out there? > Thanks, > Aaron It's March 1st. Not April 1st. From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:09:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B22E63C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14YVrq-000869-00; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Subject: Re: tasklist applet crashes with BadDrawable From: jacob berkman To: stas.orel@mailcity.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102280008.f1S08w927897@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Feb 2001 00:17:48 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote: > tasklist applet crashes in function tasklist_icon_check_x() when calling > gdk_image_get() (tasklist_icon.c:279). The error message is: > Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) > serial 2081 error_code 9 request_code 63 minor_code 0. which version of the tasklist are you running? you can get this from the about box of the tasklist. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From fejj@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E92E73C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.prv ([141.154.95.3]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01569; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:43:37 -0500 Subject: Re: cronosII mail client for Gnome From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Jeffry Smith Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <01022622412700.05334@buddy> <20010227004255.A3977@flux> <20010227000347.A82783@superhero.org> <20010227112146.500D996D98@sender.ngi.de> <983301480.9193.3.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983465127.24220.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Feb 2001 17:17:57 -0500, Jeffry Smith wrote: > A few questions: > Jeffrey Stedfast said: > > Actually, Evolution *is* a collection of smaller applications working > > together. ;-) > > > > The Evolution Addressbook will be replacing the GNOME Addressbook and > > the Evolution Calendar will be replacing the GNOME Calendar. > > Will they run without the Evolution shell (i.e. as stand-alone apps linke > Gnome Addressbook & Gnome Calendar)? no, they need to be embedded. You could probably write a simple shell to embed the calendar or the addressbook to make it "standalone" though. > > > > > Evolution itself is just a shell that embeds the addressbook, the > > calendar, and the mailer and allows them to share information much > > better than any other set of similar applications can. > > Also, will the mail client run stand-alone? And does it support mh style mail > folders? same as above. Yes, it supports MH style mailboxes. Jeff From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Thu Mar 1 12:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3D2E5A1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148B17A91; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from stud.ntnu.no (dusken4.samfundet.no [129.241.93.42]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E517A1E; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3A9E89E0.9030707@stud.ntnu.no> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Wigtil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010219 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chadoliver14@netscape.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: C++ Language Binding References: <44C6AFA5.29C0E462.6AED4586@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion chadoliver14@netscape.net wrote: > I'm trying to learn more about using C++ to develop GNOME applications. I noticed gtk-- and Inti::Gtk both had nice features. I'm wondering if there is a C++ binding which is emerging from the crowd and has more support from the GNOME community? Gtk-- (and Gnome--) will be included with Gnome 1.4, and as such be the "official" binding. Inti will be a framework for C++ on Linux (much broader scope than Gtk--, and maybe Linux only), but it is still in development. I'd go for Gtk-- if I were you. -- Hĺvard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrapé un Fraggle! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 1 14:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3A2DBB8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f21JL2j08931 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel Message-ID: <20010301192101.A8842@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil>; from jthill@microlink.net on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 or thereabouts, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by using > the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed to delete the > gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the screen that has the > Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope this > does not involve a reinstall of gnome. Laugh, no. :) Right-click on the menu panel (the one you have at the top) and select panel->create panel->edge panel (or whatever type you prefer). You may have to add individual applets and launchers back onto it. I'm not sure. If you ever get to the stage where you delete -all- your panels, btw (and you really have to try hard to achieve this), you can restart by typing "panel" into a terminal. It will come back happily. Telsa From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 16:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43E42BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7124 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13085 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21LYI121232 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from the .gnome.old to the new .gnome For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't forget to verify the ownership/perms.) HTH Barthel P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . . Yay!) -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From murphy@erim-int.com Thu Mar 1 16:58:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csd10g.erim-int.com (csd10g.erim-int.com [155.102.129.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2BD2DEDC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from erim-int.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by csd10g.erim-int.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:51:14 -0500 From: Sean Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel References: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. All you really need to do is log in as root, open a terminal window, type "panel &" (without the quotes) and then choose to save your session when you logout. That will cause gnome to remember that user root wants a panel running and will put when up each time you log in as root. As usual, you should try to avoid logging in as root as much as possible. You could always log in as yourself, then 'su' to root, or use something like sudo to give yourself root power only when needed. Logging in as root is usually equivalent to using a chainsaw as a can opener. Sure it might work Ok, but when something goes wrong, it goes REALLY wrong! "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > > and desk guide)). > > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. > > The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename > ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the > default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from > the .gnome.old to the new .gnome > > For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user > panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't > forget to verify the ownership/perms.) > > HTH > > Barthel > > P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if > something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar > my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on > this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . > . Yay!) > -- > ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 > Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! > > Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 17:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F30D2BA83 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4010 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26705 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21MUD121997; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012230.f21MUD121997@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list Cc: murphy@erim-int.com In-Reply-To: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 1 Mar, Sean Murphy wrote: > Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting > you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. Who said "DELETE"???? Not I. I said "RENAME"--which preserves those mods, ready for restoration. BTW--My advice, works for restoring the DEFAULT SETUP for *any* user. I just phrased my response for the specifics of the case--and chose to only respond to the question asked. (I'm a sudo'er, myself, Slacker that I am.) I really didn't want to start the "logging in as root is unwise" vs. "I *do* know what I'm doing and I want to login as root" thread again. > "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: >> The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename >> ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the >> default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from >> the .gnome.old to the new .gnome >> >> For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user >> panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't >> forget to verify the ownership/perms.) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From federico@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 19:20:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4A2DDF7; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08505; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Message-Id: <200103020031.SAA08505@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-1.4-list@gnome.org Subject: gdk-pixbuf 0.10.0 is released X-JWZ: To a database person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or something like that. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of hot entomological squishing action, Version 0.10.0 of the gdk-pixbuf library, code named "dance the ghost with me", has been released. This release includes a number of important bug fixes. * Availability ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz * Changes in this release: - New XBM file loader (John). - We now have our own poor man's implementation of XParseColor() so that the XPM loader can work for both GdK and Xlib (John). - Completely re-written PNM loader (Jeff, Pavel, Frédéric). - Memory leak fixes for the PNG loader (Iain). - Fixes to gdk-pixbuf.m4 (Mathieu). - Updates for the new gdk_image_get() API return value (Ramiro). - Offset computation fixes for the compositing functions (Larry, Mitsuru, Helmethead, Federico). - Compositing fixes for greater accuracy (Federico). - Fixed the GDK_PIXBUF_LIBS output so that image libraries are not linked with programs that use gdk-pixbuf (Miguel). Love, Federico From jh0u@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f187.hotmail.com [216.32.181.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CC2BB19 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:20:00 -0800 Received: from 209.179.211.226 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:19:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.211.226] From: "JJ D." To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: wt@!#$%!!! helix-code/gnome installation Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:19:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 01:20:00.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6721E40:01C0A2B6] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't seem to install helix-gnome/code or whatever... I am using debian sid and everytime I use apt-get install task-helix-gnome it complains that it's broken since it can't install gnome-games..so I installed gnome-games..but helix-gnome still doesn't want to install..tried to install red-carpet still the same issues..broken packages..what gives? I tried both ximian and helixcode sites in my /apt/sources.list with exactly the same result.. nothing..I know that gnome1.4beta will be out soon so is this the reason nothing's working anymore until gnome1.4 officially launches? the gnome-site doesn't seem to help...not unless you are living in an alternate timeline whose year is still 1999. consequently, ximian's website gives no peep/news that there is some problems.. or is it just me? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lowlifeboy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:28:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f171.hotmail.com [216.32.181.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99702CFED for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:28:40 -0800 Received: from 208.63.246.199 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.63.246.199] From: "Low Lifeboy" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse clicks and actions Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:28:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E9C7FE0:01C0A2C0] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to figure out. Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on it and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title bar or the borders for the window to come up to focus. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 1 22:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A413C2BD8A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2234nh12078; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:07:06 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Low Lifeboy Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mouse clicks and actions Message-ID: <20010301220706.A29088@sean.aweplay> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from lowlifeboy@hotmail.com on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 21:28:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Go into the control panel, select Sawfish properties -> Focus Behaviour, then turn on the 'Raise when Focused' option. That'll get you set up. I'd also browse thru the other features, and get everything tweaked just the way you like it. On 2001.03.01 21:28:40 -0500 Low Lifeboy wrote: > Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to > > figure out. > Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on > it > and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title > bar > or the borders for the window to come up to focus. > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thank you. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From cleek@csc.smsu.edu Fri Mar 2 03:40:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csc.smsu.edu (csc.smsu.edu [146.7.45.212]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542582BF9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cleek@localhost) by csc.smsu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f228eWi39128 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cleek@csc.smsu.edu) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:32 -0600 (CST) From: Billie Cleek To: Subject: Helix Audio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion A while back I was corresponding with someone that was having problems with their sounds in gnome, but I've lost his e-mail address. If you're listening: I think I've come across the solution to your problem. Cleek From tshanno@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Mar 2 08:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org [147.126.239.203]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231BB2BCF7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mc101-151.card.luhs.org (mc101-151.card.luhs.org [147.126.101.151]) by luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26914 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:50:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:13:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas R. Shannon" X-Sender: To: Subject: Evolution and Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm a pretty dedicated pine user but I'm starting to get curious about Evolution. In the last preview release I downloaded, it wasn't immediately evident how to get it to work best with pine. For instance, Evolution seems to want mail folders in separate directories. Pine wants them all collected in ~/Mail or ~/mail. Is there a way to get Evolution to accept all of the mail folders in one directory? Is there a way to import pine addresses? Does anyone know if this stuff is planned? Thanks, Tom ================ Quote of the day for February 28th, 2001 Authority without wisdom is like a heavy ax without an edge, fitter to bruise than polish. - Anne Bradstreet From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 2 09:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52832E721 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA18549 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:12:23 -0800 Message-Id: <200103021412.GAA18549@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:12:37 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Does anyone know how to change the background color of the contacts list in evolution. I don't like bright colors and the white background is blinding with my dark color scheme. Chazz From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 2 12:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF82DBA1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f22HguE01292; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9FDBA0.E6533BB1@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list , "redhat-list@redhat.com" Subject: [Fwd: Re: no gui [#28630301]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is a GUI for Producer 8.5 on Windows. They haven't taken that away. But they found most Linux users don't want or need a GUI. -------------- this is what I got from real folks..i asked why all of a sudden no GUI for realproducer.. well linux users is this true? :)LOL granted there is as certain geekage percentage myself sometimes included that "enjoys" the command line.....but......for something that tends to be somewhat complicated a gui is certainly a nice alternative.......how many use this product i wonder..... just wondering lee From lauris@ximian.com Fri Mar 2 15:12:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D002E7EA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl1100.estpak.ee [213.168.29.81]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19055; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:13:49 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200103022013.WAA19055@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: 0.26.pre breaks old apps From: Lauris Kaplinski To: gnome-print@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8 - Preview Release) Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:13:02 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I just discovered that installation from gnome-print-0.26.pre tarball breaks old applications. More specifically it overwrites ${prefix}/share/fontmap file with new version, that older gnome-prints <=0.25 are not able to understand. So applications compiled with previous gnome-print versions will most probably die, complaining of missing default font. This shouldn't create problems, if you upgrade all gnome to 1.4-beta2, but can cause problems for aprtial upgrades. This is fixed in stable CVS branch gnome-1-4-branch and will be fixed in next release by renaming the main file to fontmap2. Meanwhile you can get around that problem, by: Creating copy of your fontmap before installation and replacing the new one with the old. The new gnome-print can read old fontmap. If your fontmap is gnome, grab a tarball of gnome-print-0.25, compile it, and run font installation script (you do not have to re-install the old gnome-print). perl run-gnome-font-install gnome-font-install ${datadir} ${srcdir} datadir is /usr/share for redhat-like systems, srcdir is the topmost source directory. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Sat Mar 3 03:15:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E62BCC8 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23578; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> To: David Hampton Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:00 PST." <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com>, David Hampton writes: >I'm trying to run an application that fails with the message: > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication >protocols > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. >Stepping through the application with gdb shows that this error message >comes from the routine gnome_init_with_popt_tale. I've occasionally >seen this message from other progrms too. What causes this error and >how can I fix it. Thanks. Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? cp ~/.Xauthority ~ John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From root@gruyere.ath.cx Sat Mar 3 05:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2FF2BAB1 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f23Acbg11871; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103031038.f23Acbg11871@gruyere.ath.cx> To: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Cc: David Hampton , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-Reply-To: Message from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 EST." <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John wrote : > cp ~/.Xauthority ~ Ach.. Does nobody know how to share a Magic Cookie ? So let me teach it to you so.. user@localhost > touch ~/.rhosts && echo "$HOST root" >> ~/.rhosts root@localhost # xauth extract - $HOST:0 | rsh $HOST -l user xauth merge - if $HOST:0 is not your display but :0 is, then change it in the last line.. You could just put it in the /root/.login file (or whatever your have..) to do it automagically when you do "su -" I think this is very useful when you are, for example, in a university and you work with another guy.. Or when you have different account on different box with different ~. Dams -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From jmwhite@mail.hot1.net Sat Mar 3 17:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.hot1.net (mail.hot1.net [12.5.166.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557902BC79 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (64-217-53-85.ded.swbell.net [64.217.53.85]) by newman.hot1.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f23MY8a75132 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:34:09 -0600 (CST) From: Mike White Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:36:09 GMT Message-ID: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Subject: no gnome To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After=20 hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds an= d=20 crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per= =20 the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I=20 decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order=20 that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and = the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no = Gnome in the session drop down list. Anyone know how I can get it back? From mjbjr@beaudesign.com Sat Mar 3 17:46:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (dsl-64-32-0-230.hwrp.loop.net [64.32.0.230]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76122BD0E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mjbjr@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00781 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: mjbjr owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: mjbjr@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: command line reset? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how would I do that? Thank you. - Martin J. Brown, Jr. - - mjbjr@beaudesign.com - PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91102BDAD for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NR5Y21307 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no gnome Message-ID: <20010303232705.C20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain>; from jmwhite@mail.hot1.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 or thereabouts, Mike White wrote: > I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After > hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds and > crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per > the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I > decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order > that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and > the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no > Gnome in the session drop down list. > > Anyone know how I can get it back? You don't say what distribution you are using, but "no Gnome in the drop-down list for gdm" sounds like Mandrake. Suggestions on support@ximian.com and IRC list were to try one of these: (a) as root, chmod 755 /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Gnome (b) grab the updated gdm package for Mandrake at http://primates.ximian.com/~peter/gdm-2.0beta4-22mdk_helix_10.i586.rpm and install it. If it's not Mandrake, however, I suspect these won't work :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:39:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138732DC67 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NgpS21330 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjbjr@beaudesign.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 or thereabouts, mjbjr@beaudesign.com wrote: > I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several > gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the > pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing > everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how > would I do that? You would run 'top' and look for what is eating the CPU and so on. (Be careful assessing what's using the memory: you have to subtract the amount listed in 'share' to get an accurate assessment.) Then hit 'k' and type in the process number for it. k is kill Do not believe anyone who tells you it stands for 'keep running' and is thus harmless :) If you run top as root, you can kill practically anything. There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Shoot them one by one and wait and see whether X, and thus Gnome wakes up. Obviously, you don't want to shoot X or gnome-session itself, unless you've run out of other things to kill :) panel, gnome-terminal, xmms, netscape (_particularly_ netscape :)), gmc, big word processors and anything saying "_applet" are all candidates for this pruning. Anything ending in 'd' is likely to be a daemon. Don't go randomly killing daemons off if you're not sure what they are. There are some which are not supposed to be killable, but do you want to be the one to discover they are? A similar example is the font server, xfs. I wouldn't kill that unless I was really desperate and about to hit control-alt-delete anyway, either. To get out of 'top', hit 'q' for 'quit' (and it's 'h' for help). There is a much nicer graphical version, gtop, but if X has locked up, it's not going to help :) Telsa From keichwa@gmx.net Sun Mar 4 01:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from myway.myway.de (unknown [212.204.66.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8E72D252 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4087.nefkom.de [212.114.164.87]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15055; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:38:16 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 0CD55A5A03; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:37:49 +0100 (CET) To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> From: Karl Eichwalder Date: 04 Mar 2001 07:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Telsa Gwynne writes: > If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to > start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's > any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk > to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, > will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Yes, that's a nice feature. I just managed to iconify the menu panel and neither the foot panel nor sawfish controlled menus allowed me to deiconify it (it's cleverly hidden ;) ). Killing the panel revived the menu panel again. Wondering whether there's a more user friendly way? Maybe, this qualifies as a gnome-core bug? -- work : ke@suse.de | ,__o : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | _-\_<, home : keichwa@gmx.net | (*)/'(*) From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 06:19:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824C32D026 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZWXb-0001rL-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:08 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24BJ6W34244 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:06 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Barnfather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk paul.barnfather@vatechuk.com | | __ http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk . | o--o-... 75TS o'~o... 750SS From francesc@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk Sun Mar 4 08:14:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC642DE1E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-276.hodad.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.161.20] helo=vilarino.fsnet.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14ZYKv-00043F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:25 +0000 From: Francesc Vilarino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem to login Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am quite new in all this Linux stuff, and I hope you can give me a clue on how to solve this problem I have. I am using Suse Linux 7.0, and a few days ago I downloaded the latest Gnome from the Helix site. The problem I have (and that I already had with my previous version of Gnome) is that, when I start up my PC, I need to log in twice (I go directly to init level 3 at boot time). The first time I enter my login and password I see very briefly the screen with all the boot up information, and I suddenly go back to the login screen. After entering my login and password a second time everything's ok. Has anyone already experienced this problem? If so, please let me know how to solve it. Thanks in advance to you all. Regards, Francesc From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 4 09:44:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC52D436 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24EiHS20892 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gnome Version Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is installed on a box? For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. Thanks Sean From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 4 10:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (93-MADR-X55.libre.retevision.es [62.83.16.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6722BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01090 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:42:51PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). GSR From jeff@tick.tcsn.net Thu Mar 1 18:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from thoth.trefftzs.org (ppp160-pm-p5.tcsn.net [207.114.143.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F12E407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from outmail.tcsn.net (jeff@localhost) by thoth.trefftzs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03215 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 Message-Id: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> X-Authentication-Warning: thoth.trefftzs.org: jeff owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-list Subject: Galeon Mailing List? Reply-To: Jeff Trefftzs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 From: Jeff Trefftzs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. -- --Jeff Jeff Trefftzs http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery From mcompengr@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 00:52:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B22BA9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-209.245.7.181.Denver1.Level3.net [209.245.7.181]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11373 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: mcompengr@earthlink.net Message-ID: <3A9F34FF.31AC06CE@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:51:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: titeInhibit ignored by gnome-terminal ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, There's nothing worse than problem terminal settings. I shy away from X resourse solutions (in general too) because the final value accepted is in the executable, and can not be overidden, if set there. My approach is in the stty/tset and /etc/termcap area. The latter is the easiest for me. In an emergency I setenv TERM to a non-existant value which hopefuly causes a fallback to some default. If you look in /etc/termcap you should see strings beginning in column one that are followed by a |. These are the available values for the TERM env. Following the name is a bunch of parameter/setting pairs. The parameter name begins with a :. Now, the :te parameter is the one we DON'T want, in order to inhibit that flipping. You can have your gnome-terminal invoked with the --login flag, and then put setenv TERM in your .login file. Or, type setenv TERM as the first command. This is for csh/bash/tcsh etc. Korn syntax differs (no setenv). ---David > I have XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true > > in my .Xdefaults. Nonetheless, while xterm pays attention to this, > gnome-terminal doesn't. (I'm using gnome-terminal 1.1.5.) > > (Background FYI: titeInhibit controls whether apps such as less, more, > vi, mutt, and so forth that ask to use the xterm's alternate screen > actually flip to that screen or not. More practically, this means it > controls whether quitting vi, less, etc. leaves you looking at what > you were looking at a moment ago or what you were looking at before > you started that app. > > Tia for any pointers. > > -- > Jeff Abrahamson > 610/270-4845 > abrahj01@molbio.sbphrd.com > > (home email is jeff_abrahamson@purple.com) > From mvdwege@wanadoo.nl Sun Mar 4 02:28:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 669922BD0E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28401 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.244) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from drebbelstraat20 ([127.0.0.1]) by drebbelstraat20 with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZSvz-0002yw-00 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:28:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:27:59 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: gdm locks up my keyboard? Message-Id: <20010304082759.24c182c3.mvdwege@wanadoo.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Folks, I recently updated my sources.list to Ximian Gnome 1.4beta. After upgrading my system shows some weird behaviour at login: when I attempt to login using gdm straight after a reboot, my keyboard is *totally* dead. I mean totally, I can't switch to a virtual terminal, I can't kill X, and I can't do a Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. Thankfully I can reboot the system from gdm. The only way to avoid this is to to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 just while gdm comes up during boot, login at the console, disable gdm and start it again. It continues functioning normally from that point, so it is only a minor irrtation (as I don't reboot often), but I still wonder: is this a bug in gdm or do I have something misconfigured? BTW minor detail: gdm starts first on console #2, upon restart it runs on console #7. Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Distribution Version: testing/unstable Operating System Release: 2.2.18 Mart -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sun Mar 4 11:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24D2D185 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24GFRh26653; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:17:55 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Hartnett Cc: "gnome-list @ gnome . org" Subject: Re: Gnome Version Message-ID: <20010304111755.C23402@sean.aweplay> References: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net>; from tardis@mediaone.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:44:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'd say that'd be difficult, since you could, for example, any upgrade certain parts of GNOME to 1.4 beta - for example, I'm mostly running beta1, with a couple packages from beta2 installed. Your best bet is to look at all the packages for gnome installed (most,but not all, of which have 'gnome' in their name - so on an RPM system, rpm -qa | grep gnome would give you a list, with package versions). You could compare this to a list of beta packages, and see what is beta, and what is not. On 2001.03.04 09:44:13 -0500 Hartnett wrote: > >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the > GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is > installed on a box? > > For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see > somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. > > > Thanks > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877C2BC87 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24GxEF16053; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:59:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103041659.f24GxEF16053@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Galeon Mailing List? From: Stephen "M." Williams To: Jeff Trefftzs Cc: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:58:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, The Galeon mailing list can be found @: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galeon-user I've been running Galeon here with little to no problems at all for a while. Shoot me an e-mail and maybe I can help. Steve On 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week > or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I > dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost > unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my > complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the > proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) > > Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me > what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so > unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my > galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page > outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the > referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 > Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . > attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my > pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) > > Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join > it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. > > > -- > --Jeff > Jeff Trefftzs > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery > http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 12:23:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2456F2BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA30826; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:22:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:23:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1D72DEB8 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA31062; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041804.NAA31062@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:05:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Also, I just realized who you were, Paul (your e-mail sounded familiar) -- I have been referring to your website to get gnome compiled on solaris 2.6 (in a non-root account) for the last year or so. It's a great guide for those who want to get gnome compiled on solaris, take a look: http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/index.html -Troy I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From pnelson@neatech.com Sun Mar 4 15:35:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from washington.neatech.com (unknown [207.93.69.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF92D2E2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by WASHINGTON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> From: Patrick Nelson To: "Gnome-List (E-mail)" Subject: Whats all in RC? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From plazma803@home.com Sun Mar 4 16:15:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493292CE31 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com ([65.1.52.32]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304211531.PPTS21905.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:15:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? From: Josh McGee To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List "(E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:14:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983740467.24996.0.camel@cc342141-b.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Red-carpet is an package update tool that replaces ximians(aka:helix-code) update tool On 04 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800, Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From michaelv@cox-internet.com Sun Mar 4 17:08:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from europa.cox-internet.com (europa-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D742DF21 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:07:14 -0600 Subject: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:12:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. Thanks in advance. From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 22:54:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512A2BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA147020; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial099.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.99]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA71010; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:44 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? Message-ID: <20010304225444.A764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON>; from pnelson@neatech.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 15:35:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It depends. It only works with Debian and Red Hat at this point. It updated smoothly for my recently installed RH 6.2 system. Others have had problems. Read about it here: http://www.ximian.com/apps/redcarpet.php3 Ask more questions and check out the message archives here: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/red-carpet Brett On 2001.03.04 15:35 Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release > or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 23:11:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC92BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (garnet2-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.2]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA84998; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:17 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial676.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.35.66]) by garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30022; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 Message-ID: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; from michaelv@cox-internet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:12:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 37 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What Lycos found: 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > Thanks in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- From root@gruyere.ath.cx Mon Mar 5 01:20:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D02D371 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f256Lif30276; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200103050621.f256Lif30276@gruyere.ath.cx> To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Brett Castleberry of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 EST." <20010304231049.C764@monachos> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion As far as i can remember there was a .spec file in the gdk-pixbuf tar.gz (or at least a spec.in file..) So.. let's build yourself your own rpm package. if a spec file is present then "rpm --tb gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz" will build 2 i386.rpm (gdk-pixbuf & devel) if a spec.in file is present then tar zxvf the archive, ./configure will build the spec file from spec.in file. Copy the tar.gz in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES and rpm -ba will build .src.rpm and .i386.rpm packages (-bb if you just want i386) for the rest.. "man rpm" Dams bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu wrote : > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From michael.boeni@artificial-life.com Mon Mar 5 06:14:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from srvzhex1.artificial-life.com (unknown [212.243.161.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F002E04E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by SRVZHEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: <0FA6AB953DC0D311A07B00508BAE1B01560645@SRVZHEX1> From: "Boeni, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Keyboard swiss-german Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all I use Gnome (Ximian) on my Thinkpad. I would like to use the swiss-german keyboard; the mapping works perfectly (I edited X86conf) but I have a problem with using the special keys like "@". I would like to set the ALTGR key to use to get these special characters - but I have not really worked out how to set this correclty. Please advise. Cheers, Michael From cohendr@yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 15:11:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web3202.mail.yahoo.com (web3202.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0838F2D37A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.186.194.129] by web3202.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:11:38 PST Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Cohen Reply-To: catman@ascensionet.com Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk, tcarter@princeton.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Troy and Paul, It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. >From reading archives of the comp.programming.threads newsgroup, Solaris 7 and 8 both require patches to the operating system to prevent deadlocks with recursive mutexes. It also sounds like the patches may not completely fix the problems. Eazel has no desire to resolve this problem for Gnome 1.4 (although, I would imagine they would accept patches). All they care about is if it works in Solaris 8 (which is a reference platform). See bug 7007 in eazel's bugzilla for more information (http://bugzilla.eazel.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7007). - Dan Cohen Excerpt from Troy Carter: > Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in > gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong > about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess > Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Excerpt from Troy Carter: > I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. > The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive > mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to > use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are > being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have > got poking around mailing list archives. Paul Barnfather wrote: > PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > > It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, > but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > > Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flinstone99999@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 00:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (smtp-tor.internetconnect.net [209.191.75.194]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF322CA96 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com ([209.191.114.209]) by smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17264 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA324DD.357059C0@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:32:13 -0800 From: David Hampton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-init fails References: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > > Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? Yes. I su'd to root in an xterm window and tried to run the program. What confuses me is that the exact same executable does or does not produce this message depending upon the name under which it was invoked. When invoked as red-carpet (yes, this is red-carpet but I've seen this on other programs) I do not get an error message. When invoked as red-carpet-91, I get an error message. Its the same object file. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 4 21:27 red-carpet->red-carpet-91 -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 2228993 Mar 3 02:55 red-carpet-91 Can someone explain this behavior? Thanks. David From misiek@pld.ORG.PL Mon Mar 5 05:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.210.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79EF2D026 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (Postfix+IPv6, from userid 1002) id 9AF7AC8002; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miskiewicz To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnome-core && panel crash Message-ID: <20010305111135.A30562@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-URL: http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ X-Operating-System: Linux dark 4.0.20 #119 Tue Jan 16 12:21:53 MET 2001 i986 pld Organization: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution Team Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Problem with panel from gnome-core 1.3.1: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 #3 0x407b6948 in tasklist_draw_task (task=0x816f1e0, rect=0xbffff000) at tasklist_applet.c:478 #4 0x407b81f4 in cb_expose_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414, tasklist=0x81a8838) at tasklist_applet.c:1220 #5 0x402bb378 in gtk_marshal_BOOL__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x407b8118 , func_data=0x81a8838, args=0xbffff124) at gtkmarshal.c:28 #6 0x402ef3fe in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x8179d60, signal=0xbffff0d8, object=0x81a02d0, params=0xbffff124, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917 #7 0x402ee725 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32, params=0xbffff124) at gtksignal.c:1477 #8 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32) at gtksignal.c:552 #9 0x40329c49 in gtk_widget_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414) at gtkwidget.c:2864 #10 0x4032dba4 in gtk_widget_real_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:4585 #11 0x402bb6d8 in gtk_marshal_NONE__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x4032dab4 , func_data=0x0, args=0xbffff4f4) at gtkmarshal.c:193 #12 0x402ee571 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15, params=0xbffff4f4) at gtksignal.c:1440 #13 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15) at gtksignal.c:552 #14 0x40328b59 in gtk_widget_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:2335 #15 0x407b7393 in real_layout_tasklist (tasklist=0x81a8838, call_change_size=135413000) at tasklist_applet.c:774 #16 0x400b296e in g_timeout_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #17 0x400b18d6 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #18 0x400b1ef3 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #19 0x400b20ac in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #20 0x402b95dc in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:524 #21 0x0805dc8e in main (argc=5, argv=0xbffffa2c) at main.c:312 #22 0x405fc2fe in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) frame 1 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 338 width = XmbTextEscapement (fontset, string, strlen(string)); (gdb) frame 2 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 115 label_len = gdk_string_width (tasklist->area->style->font, das_string); (gdb) print task->gwmh_task $1 = (GwmhTask *) 0x814ef08 (gdb) print *task->gwmh_task $2 = {name = 0x0, icon_name = 0x0, gstate = 0, ghints = 0, app_state = WIN_APP_STATE_NONE, focused = 0, iconified = 0, frame_x = 147, frame_y = 13, frame_width = 364, frame_height = 265, win_x = 153, win_y = 32, win_width = 352, win_height = 240, desktop = 3, harea = 0, varea = 0, layer = 0, last_desktop = 0, last_harea = 0, last_varea = 0, last_layer = 0, gdkwindow = 0x817d8d8, gdkframe = 0x815ccf0, datalist = 0x0, xwin = 48234499, xframe = 12594010, sroot = 0x8186580, imask_queued = 0, imask_notify = 0} (gdb) task->gwmh_task-> is NULL. [misiek@arm misiek]$ rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs gtk+ glib gnome-core-1.3.1-1 gnome-libs-1.2.12-3 gtk+-1.2.9-1 glib-1.2.9-1 -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, AM2-6BONE [ PLD GNU/Linux IPv6 ] http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ [ enabled ] From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Mon Mar 5 08:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808F2E0AF for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25Dauo10959; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f25Dau105398; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: GnomeMessageBox Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Question: Is there a possibility to change the message text within a GnomeMessageBox, after it has been created. I didn't find any API call, nor something in the FAQs. Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From darin@eazel.com Mon Mar 5 11:31:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A83B22E078 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:30:21 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:30:58 -0800 Subject: gnome-vfs branch (was Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6?) From: Darin Adler To: Troy Carter , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/4/01 9:23 AM, Troy Carter at tcarter@princeton.edu wrote: > I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). gnome-vfs HEAD is not the newest gnome-vfs source code. You can find the newest code on the stable branch (and the branch used for GNOME 1.4), gnome-vfs-1. > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function > `strip_trailing_whitespace': > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' This error is fixed in the gnome-vfs-1 stable branch, but the fix hasn't been rolled back to HEAD yet. There's a gnome-vfs mailing list at ximian.com that has all the gnome-vfs experts. They don't necessarily read this list. One way to subscribe is to go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/gnome-vfs. -- Darin From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 5 13:13:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049602BB2D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZzSu-000IBU-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:12:23 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f25I0oT51374 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:00:50 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: RE: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:02:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hmph. Seeing as gnome-vfs is pretty fundamental, I guess that means "GNOME 1.4 will not be available on Solaris 2.6/7" :-( That's a pity, but I suppose I have to move with the times. So much for the test compile of GNOME 1.4. Clearly I need to check out the upgrade path to Solaris 8. Man, I _hate_ OS upgrades... >From Dan Cohen: > It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes > in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable > PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced > with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, > both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. From wphewitt@home.com Mon Mar 5 15:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c150135-a.potlnd1.or.home.com [24.7.139.148]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CB2BB98 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.com (IDENT:wphewitt@blowfish [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01183 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 From: "William P. Hewitt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for editing.... I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not a good enough investigator? TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... WPH From keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au Mon Mar 5 18:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au (smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C782CDC3 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dogbert ([134.7.1.238] helo=cs.curtin.edu.au ident=keithmag) by smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #5) id 14a42G-0004VP-00; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:00 +0800 Message-ID: <3AA41B9E.7E174E48@cs.curtin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:02 +0800 From: Russell Keith-Magee Organization: Curtin University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "William P. Hewitt" wrote: > > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... No need to play with config files. Right Click on the Foot menu Select Properties... You should be presented with a set of radio buttons describing whether you want various menus on the main menu, in a sub menu, or off. Select off for the Favourites and Distribution options. I'm not sure how you remove Run though. It's not a regular menu item; if it were, you would be able to right click on it and select an option to remove it. Russ %-) Enjoy, Russ Magee %-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Russell Keith-Magee PhD Research Student School of Computing, Curtin University of Technology email: keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au OR russ.magee@computer.org WWW: http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~keithmag Ph: +61 8 9266 2129 FAX +61 8 9266 2819 ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretending I'm pulling in a TROUT! Am I doing it correctly?? From michaelv@cox-internet.com Mon Mar 5 21:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (unknown [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3F2DBF6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:41:50 -0600 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:46:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is an RPM @ www.rpmfind.net listed as polished but seems to work on RH7 BTW: lycos Ha ! Try www.google.com "Its the best search engine available. Hands down." just my personal Opinion. Thanks for the reply. On 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500, Brett Castleberry wrote: > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > -- > From len@philpot.org Mon Mar 5 21:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC29B2D393 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010306025538.OWZV15172.io@vulcan> for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:55:38 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: A few general questions Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect a few questions for which I can find no answers in the documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This can be very distracting. When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... Related to the previous question, an even better solution would be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do that. Any ideas? Is there any way to get around the split personality of the panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. And while I'm at it... :) This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From jnelson@lexonia.com Mon Mar 5 22:34:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3622BB92 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03475; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Len Philpot Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Len Philpot wrote: The Gnome panel menus and structure are a big pain in the user interface butt. They were worse in previous versions too. > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? I had the same problems with Balsa. Go to gnome.org and get the latest version of Balsa, released just two days ago. It clears up a few problems but there are still significant bugs IMHO. I use Netscape 6 and Pine. Netscape too has bugs but the features outweigh the bugs and are less annoying than Balsa. Actually I'm quite disatisifed with every mail client I've tried but you get what you pay for. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. 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From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 02:21:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0582BB41 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f267LYH01906; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 23:21:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 05 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect > a few questions for which I can find no answers in the > documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. > > > Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic > underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs > in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This > can be very distracting. I'm not sure... I don't see the option at a quick glance. I kinda doubt it... > When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a > way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a > real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty > looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at > 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. > There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they > get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left > alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty smoothly down. > Related to the previous question, an even better solution would > be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default > icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced > by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do > that. Any ideas? You'r not the first to suggest it. It currently isn't possible. > Is there any way to get around the split personality of the > panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and > there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the > current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much > as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which > he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the idea is that then you always have access to everything in that you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd think the user could basicly work with a diff of the menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out what the name of the program is without making a copy of the entry onto the panel. That's just silly. --Ben > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? > > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > > > -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- > ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- > ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cleek@cleekhouse.com Mon Mar 5 15:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from whyrl.cleekhouse.com (c155877-a.sprgfld1.mo.home.com [24.14.179.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3542DDF1 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cleek (helo=localhost) by whyrl.cleekhouse.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14a1vs-0000ZN-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Billie H. Cleek" To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Look in control-center. Turn off "distibution menus" in the menu section of the panel configuration. On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... > > WPH > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From estoy@ver.megared.net.mx Tue Mar 6 12:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (unknown [200.52.208.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC002DFEC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net ([10.21.67.114]) by bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40165 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:38:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from estoy@ver.megared.net.mx) Received: (from vai@localhost) by lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f26IB5111618 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 From: MC_Vai To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling under OpenBSD Message-ID: <20010306121105.A23537@lapurapus.ver.megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have a problem compiling gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (X version 4.0.2). Specifically the gnome-applets-1.2.4.tar.gz package, The actual error point (message) is: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I. -I. - I../intl -I../intl -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" - I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/lib/ gnome-libs/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include - I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSIO N=\""1.2.4"\" -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/in clude/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -c modemlights.c In file included from modemlights.h:21, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:60: field `sc_timo' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:75: field `sc_stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:77: field `sc_npmode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:91: syntax error before `ext_accm' In file included from modemlights.h:22, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:74: field `mode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:86: field `stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:91: fi gmake[3]: *** [modemlights.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anybody have successfully compiled gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (with X 4.0.2)? or tell me know what can I do? It's pretty obvious that the problem is about the OpenBSD net library, but I've not been able to came up with any solution. Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Eduardo. From mike@cyborg-group.com Tue Mar 6 08:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8012BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14aGFN-0007lD-00 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:07:21 +0000 Subject: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is not meant as a flame but I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while evolution is not To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and stable than evolution - so why the choice From garud@mail.eecis.udel.edu Tue Mar 6 14:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8682BB87 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa02385; 6 Mar 2001 14:12 EST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: Radhika Rao To: gnome-list@gnome.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Cc: Chandrashekhar Garud Subject: problem compiling gnome-lib-1.2.8 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to compile gnome for Solaris 7 with gcc version 2.7.2.3 I get the following problem compiling gnome-login-support.c from gnome-lib-1.2.8/zvt.. In file included from gnome-login-support.c:2: /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:354: parse error before `}' It compiles with Sun CC. It seems that gcc that I am using does not compile any source file which includes sys/stropts.h Is there any workaround for this ? Thanks in advance chandra From aross@skyenet.net Tue Mar 6 19:33:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.skyenet.net (smtp.skyenet.net [208.137.1.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF202C8AC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from skyenet.net (IDENT:aross@port139.piqua.idir.net [216.117.46.149]) by smtp.skyenet.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f270ZGP04846; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:32:00 -0500 From: Art Ross Organization: Sinclair Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME crashes for one account Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried several times to bring it back up without success. There were some symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME configuration. Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. Thanks for the assistance. Art From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 23:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669B2BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274B9H04201; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:10:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2001 22:21, you wrote > > > The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large > > (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm > > not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless > > you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty > > smoothly down. > > Well, what was happening was that the icons in a drawer were > getting scaled up to 48x48. Apparently, you can't display an > icon at its _actual_ size if that's different from the size > that's "supposed" to be used (I guess). I was trying to use a > 16x16 icon in the drawer, since there's no need for anything > bigger. However, I finally gave up and used a 48x48 at its > actual size. It looks better (obviously) that a smaller one > scaled up, but it's still ugly to me in that it's about 4x too > big. Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > It seems there's no end to how big interface objects have/will > become in gnome. I'd much rather give the extra screen real > estate to the client area of a window rather than all widgets > surrounding it. Otherwise, you gain nothing with higher > resolution and larger screen sizes - Everything just gets bigger. I agree that a lot of things in Gnome are bigger than they need to be... I'm not completely sure what you mean... > Is it possible to create a transparent icon? Transparent icons show up as transparent... why? > > > I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's > > not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the > > idea is that then you always have access to everything in that > > you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd > > think the user could basicly work with a diff of the > > menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the > > current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive > > for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out > > what the name of the program is without making a copy of the > > entry onto the panel. That's just silly. > > My opinion is that if it's your "stuff", you should have the > freedom to blow it away if you're not careful :) Yep... > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > should have an impact on anyone else. For example, CDE on > Solaris: log in as root and delete all the front panel icons and > such. Then log in as someone else and they're still there (for > them). The reverse also holds true. That's how it should be, > IMO. root should really have no influence on any other user's > interface, unless it's set up in /etc/skel as a *initial > default*. If you really want to clamp down, just chmod away > their permissions to do anything, but that's not real fair. This sounds like a better behavior. What do other people think? Why is the behavior as it is? I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? --Ben From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 7 06:56:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EBC2DC4D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax59-191.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.224.191]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Bu7H04729 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:56:07 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6592EC48; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions Message-ID: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu>; from bfrantzdale@hmc.edu on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:10:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same property dialogues as panels... Including size. > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > should have an impact on anyone else. That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Is Murphy's Law constitutional? From mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Wed Mar 7 07:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx.tellabs.fi (proxy.tellabs.fi [193.65.253.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923B52C89F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (mxdk.dk.tellabs.com [172.19.74.16]) by mx.tellabs.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00655 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:51:02 +0200 (EET) From: mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23340 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:51:02 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:45:56 +0100" ;Modification-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:55 +0100" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have made a simple script that loads a picture from the net and want to place it as a background picture for gnome... Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome update the picture it has as background?? I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut it down... How can I update the background image without that hastle?? And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular intervals, but have found no such thing...) - Mads Randstoft From cmevoli@afsa.com Wed Mar 7 09:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E52DF12 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA06215 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:20:16 -0800 Message-Id: <200103071420.GAA06215@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:20:20 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Art Ross Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME crashes for one account References: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem once... try moving your ~/.gnome/session file to ~/.gnome/session.bak. Then you should get gnome to come up with default session. Afterwards, you can selectively move settings from the session.bak to the new session file that gnome creates. Make sure that after removing your session file, you logout of gnome properly and check the box for saving settings. Art Ross wrote: > Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried > several times to bring it back up without success. There were some > symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into > runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would > begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start > GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start > at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it > isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME > configuration. > Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. > Thanks for the assistance. > Art > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Wed Mar 7 09:45:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4A2BD60 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GNHAV9T5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:21 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVTZFL; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14afBV-0000It-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: window manager Message-ID: <20010307094501.H29825@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. I'm running Ximian Gnome with Sawmill. Currently when I go into the control panel, it says that Sawmill is not running, but it obviously is. Is this a known problem with a fix? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:06:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3B2E18F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:07:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:07:27 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:17:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9412BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307121807.024ff018@www.apt302.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113D42E245 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahn0-000480-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? Message-ID: <20010307183154.B15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mads.randstoft@tellabs.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100, mads.randstoft@tellabs.com wrote: > Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome > update the picture it has as background?? > > I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" > but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut > it down... Hehue, never did it this way .-) > How can I update the background image without that hastle?? "wmsetbg" if you have windowmaker installed. "Esetroot" if you have got E(term) installed. > And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through > freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular > intervals, but have found no such thing...) Have you tried ChBg for doing it the conventional way from the disk? -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:34:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA2232BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13240 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahqa-00048X-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@cyborg-group.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but it is one ,-) > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > stable than evolution > - so why the choice Hm, I think that a file manager is a much more important and much more single part of a desktop -- there are not many good GUI filemanagers out there and therefore they/we might have thought that nautilus should be shipped with it. I dunno, if evolution aims to be shipped with final GNOME 1.4 at all -- never heard of a release target for GNOME 1.4 like Nautilus' one. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 12:48:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27Hqvk02193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: Fatih Demir Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net>; from kabalak@gmx.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:35:36PM +0100 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > This is not meant as a flame but >=20 > it is one ,-) >=20 > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > evolution is not > >=20 > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > stable than evolution My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer w= hen both are installed. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnV4ADZzJ5PZfaMRAnSBAJ4ute5jjtXOE/7rRaWsFOszD2iVDQCcCs8p 5MTWZzMUCNdxcO8IulWStnY= =nDKK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1-- From flavio@conectiva.com.br Wed Mar 7 13:00:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (brutus.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761BA2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by barney.distro.conectiva (Postfix, from userid 726) id 7785D27365; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307145924.A30464@conectiva.com.br> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com>; from tanner@real-time.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > >=20 > > it is one ,-) > >=20 > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta whi= le > > > evolution is not > > >=20 > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution >=20 > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer= when > both are installed. so I have the same question! Why? > --=20 > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 >=20 --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqmdvwACgkQiRDznl8DCoAqdQCcCOFgYdDVjm4zNo+gEEQRIIV3 l50An22NasOZguRGsg6O+tQsGd2mmGad =cxmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From sullivan@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:01:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE2F2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (gecko.eazel.com [10.10.100.11]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UA3500.2HA; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:01:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 From: John Sullivan Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > > > > it is one ,-) > > > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > > evolution is not > > > > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility problems should be rare or absent. John > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BA92BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IC7002307; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com>; from sullivan@eazel.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:59:13AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bo= nobo > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibili= ty > problems should be rare or absent. The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnn2ADZzJ5PZfaMRAsYWAJwLaGTLiTo+WDLH1XL/yfaVrJXa5QCfeDtO pMuzeI/BGQnp+zC6NjOR0n4= =2dpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:18:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835402BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aiVq-0000UV-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:18:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:18:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > problems should be rare or absent. > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:23:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205172BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IRvE02841; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:21AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. Hmm, care to share versions? $ uname -a Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 $ nautilus nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info= _init >=20 > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to th= e Bonobo > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compati= bility > > > problems should be rare or absent. > >=20 > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > --=20 > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com >=20 --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pn2sADZzJ5PZfaMRAhO3AJ9Nf7lltKdf7x2az3zFwQ7bMWoASACfez1m QinwwAOXfG7TWaWMD8yUZ4w= =1pNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l-- From darin@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:27:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808DD2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:27:03 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Cc: John Sullivan , , "J. Daniel Powell" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/7/01 10:27 AM, Bob Tanner at tanner@real-time.com wrote: > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 Here's your problem. These packages that claim to be gnome-vfs-2.0 are actually packages made from gnome-vfs HEAD, and are too old for Nautilus. -- Darin From jfleck@inkstain.net Wed Mar 7 13:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A82BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08574; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Bob Tanner Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy development, you should expect it to behave like unstable software that's still under heavy development. In this case, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, the problems come from the mix of bonobo, Nautilus and Evolution, all of which have been under heavy development and have been rapidly changing, making it difficult to create a snapshot where all three worked well together at any one time. That is changing. If you want stable software, wait until the developers have finished writing it. Cheers, John From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:29:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aih4-0000hB-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:29:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:29:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST 2001 i686 unknown [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > $ uname -a > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > $ nautilus > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > -- > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > J. Daniel Powell > > dan@olliance.com > > > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 7 13:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30702BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14aio6-0000ea-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: jacob berkman To: mike Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not since around last august, evolution was not targeted for gnome 1.4 (since it was supposed to come out last november, and evoultion wasn't going to be done enough in time). since the release has slipped until now, evolution could have been a candidate for 1.4, but the evo team didn't want to commit to this, so that they had enough time to get out a really featureful and stable email client. on the plus side, with the libraries being frozen for 1.4, evo and nautilus library incompatibilities will be gone. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 14:03:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from enchanter.real-time.com (enchanter.real-time.com [206.10.252.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585802BDA8 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by enchanter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27J3ex25076; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307130340.A28874@real-time.com> Mail-Followup-To: jfleck@inkstain.net, Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfleck@inkstain.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:19AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Quoting jfleck@inkstain.net (jfleck@inkstain.net): > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > > both are installed. > > > > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. Make it an FAQ. It would save me from having to ask, save you the fustration of having to explain it (again) and it will save someone else from having to ask it next week. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Wed Mar 7 15:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ACE2BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27Kf1H26101; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:41:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103072041.f27Kf1H26101@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Jeff Waugh Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:40:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 07 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > > Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same > property dialogues as panels... Including size. cool. > > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > > should have an impact on anyone else. > > That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. Right. Does anyone have a UI reason that this is the way things work or is this the behavior only because it's easy to code? > > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? > > The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) Don't hold your breath. ;-) --Ben From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378D2CA1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27L3Od05674; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:29:57AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... >=20 > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, ca= n you give me a url? I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SR= PM is around somewhere. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqIcADZzJ5PZfaMRAhWbAJ4/cMFveNrxEDKLbLfzg1tuAqQwmACfdsNq WrQGXtNTidMMW9n6AkszkdA= =c+UL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 16:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6C52DC1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14alGy-0003g6-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:15:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:15:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpmftp:// ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpm On 07 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... > > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > > 2001 i686 unknown > > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > > I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, can you > give me a url? > > I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SRPM is > around somewhere. > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From bart@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 20:25:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0A2D3E4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (null.eazel.com [10.10.100.23]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UUN500.BFR; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA6DFA1.2B0B61BD@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 From: Bart Decrem Reply-To: bart@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: tanner@real-time.com, John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org, tom@eazel.com Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "J. Daniel Powell" wrote: > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... Eazel's launching a revamped software catalog on Monday. One of the great things about the catalog organization is that we can show many different versions of the same package and Nautilus users will be able to auto-install arbitrary versions (module conflict management of course). I count 9 different versions of GNOME-VFS that are available in the softcat that launches on Monday. You can find the catalog at http://www.eazel.com/catalog - easy installation is available to Nautilus users. Cheers, Bart > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > > > $ uname -a > > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > > > $ nautilus > > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > > -- > > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > J. Daniel Powell > > > dan@olliance.com > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > -- > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From shochat@acm.org Wed Mar 7 22:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88DE2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f283GK617767; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA6F9DB.20809@acm.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:17:47 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010303 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian french Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Configure and launch References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion brian french wrote: > hey, > > i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a > question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how > to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and > i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i > have to before i launch it. please help, For RedHat, runlevel 5 would run gdm on boot-up, (also running X) which would give a graphical login screen that should run gnome on login. To do that, edit /etc/inittab, changing the line: id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: If you don't want that (i.e. if you want the system to come up in text mode), you should be able to get startx to launch (X and) gnome by modifying your ~/.xinitrc. If you don't have one, copy /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc. From what you are saying, it may end up with something like: twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 & xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 & exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login Try replacing all that with: exec gnome-session From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Wed Mar 7 22:51:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFF2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25556; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:45 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial047.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.47]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA60308; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA701C7.1080601@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:51:35 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy > development, you should expect it to behave like unstable > software that's still under heavy development. ... > If you want stable software, wait until the developers have > finished writing it. Wouldn't be a very busy mailing list if we all did that! 8^) I've been wishing someone would make this point. But I expect a lot of people will learn it like I did, the hard way. Brett Castleberry From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Thu Mar 8 01:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2802BB74 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f286ksH00109; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:46:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f286l5j20227; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: libgnomeui - About Dialog Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) then I get a Gtk+ error msg: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi dget)' failed. I'm using glade for making the app. Reason? Regards Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 8 03:13:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E867B2BC92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from r1739.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.25.215) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:13:23 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Joachim Backes Cc: GNOME Subject: Re: libgnomeui - About Dialog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Joachim Backes wrote: > it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button > is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to > popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by > > gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) > > then I get a Gtk+ error msg: > > Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi > dget)' failed. > > I'm using glade for making the app. Well, GnomeAboutDialog is a fire&forget dialog. You don't need to free it after creation, but also shouldn't hold a reference to it. Just create it every time you want to show it. Regards, Jens From ascholer@ISI.EDU Tue Mar 6 20:54:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547212DF4B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute (lsanca1-ar6-026-159.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.26.159]) by nitro.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f271ot601361 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:50:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> From: "Andrew Scholer" To: Subject: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 09:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B41522BBE7 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA28260; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:32 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella Reply-To: Donald Tournier To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Open a gnome-terminal and type lots of stuff so that you have a good screenful of lines. Type emacs -nw, and open a largish text file (C-x C-f to open a file). You can then scroll around the file in emacs using PgUp/PgDn. Using the shift modifier, it scrolls around the terminal itself, which is not really what you want. If gnome-terminal grabbed the PgUp/PgDn keys, they would not be available to applications like emacs and they would have to use awkward key combinations, so you have to make some form of compromise somewhere. Hope that helps, Donald Tournier. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andrew Scholer wrote: Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 8 09:28:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572142E337 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28EWBg22221 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010308143211.A22167@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute>; from ascholer@ISI.EDU on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? It's in the FAQ. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > it (including other gnome aps). > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > different than just about everything else out there. Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used mailer, include: previous-page move to the previous page next-page move to the next page And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar gets me the weirdest result when I try it. There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's help. I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! Telsa From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 10:28:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B892DE78 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16560; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal the interface. NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Thu Mar 8 13:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3355E2BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRQ8LAC3; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3AA7CD47.7B5E6C6E@biology.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:19:51 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: <20010308170529.90ACF2E307@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can live with the shift-pgup approach. What I want to do is define a key to move just one line at a time. I can do this in xterm, but not apparently in gnome-terminal. I asked Miguel de Icaza if this kind of thing was modifiable in gnome-terminal and he thought not without recompiling: > HAEFNER > > ... Obviously someone has attached > > the "shift-pageup" key to a gnome-terminal function (scrollback 1 page). > > How is that done? Is there a ".gnometerminalrc" file somewhere? > MIQUEL > I think this is hardcoded into the Zvt widgets or the gnome-terminal > source code. > > best wishes, > Miguel. Does any one out there know if I can define shift-uparrow to be move back one line in the gnome-terminal buffer? -Jim Haefner --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? > > It's in the FAQ. > > http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html > > Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. > URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > > > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > > it (including other gnome aps). > > > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > > different than just about everything else out there. > > Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of > PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used > mailer, include: > previous-page move to the previous page > next-page move to the next page > > And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. > Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) > > If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had > just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar > gets me the weirdest result when I try it. > > There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For > example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a > terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in > a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... > So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > > > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a > > It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, > under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. > It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's > help. > > I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! > > Telsa > > -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 8 13:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB552BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN1P69SQ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:01 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT7RN; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14b53n-0001uE-00 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From len@philpot.org Thu Mar 8 14:02:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E2BBFC for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010308190158.BXMY15172.io@vulcan> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:01:58 -0600 From: "Len Philpot" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:06:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Reply-To: len@philpot.org Message-ID: <3AA783D2.2340.2D1770B@localhost> Priority: normal References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys > to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based > applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Of course, another approach could be to have the terminal merely host the application's display, whether vi, emacs, bash or whatever and not interfere with anything: Let _each_ app handle all the keyboard IO by itself, the way the app sees fit. That way, any functionality built into each app would be free to function. Basically, the terminal would cease to exist when an app was running (whcih would be all the time; the shell if nothing else). Unfortunately, I've not come across any terminal emulators that do that AFAICT. -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From hp@redhat.com Thu Mar 8 14:45:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76422E3E1 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28JkX708556; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the > "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol > characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome > team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other > communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal > the interface. > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, which we can't count on. Havoc From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 15:44:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FCC2BAB6 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18773; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Havoc Pennington Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 8 Mar 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > which we can't count on. Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt keyboards could be accomodated. I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From mhoffman1@pdq.net Thu Mar 8 17:25:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0213A2BAC0 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdq.net from [209.144.229.93] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with esmtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:25:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600 From: mhoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Out-of-control Panel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel is behaving...strangely. First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, because I don't use that option --yet. A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Matthew Hoffman From jfleck@inkstain.net Thu Mar 8 17:54:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580662E45C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11948; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, mhoffman wrote: > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > I'm not sure I fully understand your description of what's going on, but part of the problem, the loss of minimized icons, is most likely the loss of your tasklist applet. Right-click on the panel, then choose Applets->Utility->Tasklist. That should restart the tasklist, where those minimized icons live. Cheers, John From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 8 21:43:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643452BB71 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292h7H11582; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103090243.f292h7H11582@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc From: Ben FrantzDale To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:43:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm not sure exactly what's wrong in your case but I've had times where the control center (Window manager component) thinks one WM is running when really another is... You might try switching WMs and swithcing back to make sure that the control center knows what's going on... That's my only suggestion.... --Ben > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Thu Mar 8 23:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E2C2BB92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f294SAL13357; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel From: Stephen "M." Williams To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:26:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600, mhoffman wrote: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. HTH, Steve From wege34@zonnet.nl Thu Mar 8 23:57:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D8452C858 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26984 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.102) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:56:26 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-Id: <20010309055626.3f300151.wege34@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> References: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion mhoffman schreef op Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600:: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! > > Matthew Hoffman > It gets even more annoying here. I have Ximian 1.4beta in my sources.list, and last night a whole bunch of gnome stuff got upgraded. Funny thing is, like Matthew, my Tasklist is gone, and trying to add it to the panel gives no result. If Matthew is running the beta as well, I think we found a bug here. Mart -- You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE "SOMEONE ELSE." From hp@redhat.com Fri Mar 9 02:04:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B882CE9E for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2975Xt19646; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? > > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. It could certainly make sense to allow configuration of the "command" key, though it would require changes to lots of code, so nontrivial. The reason "Alt" isn't used is that it's used for the "underline accelerators," such as Alt-F to get the file menu. Underline accelerators correspond to a letter in a displayed word, and change when interfaces are translated into other languages. Thus if you use Alt for the regular accelerators also, it's very difficult to avoid collisions between accelerators. Already the underline accelerators are hard, since you have to use one of the letters contained in each word to be accelerated. The Ctrl- accelerators for an app with lots of them such as the Gimp would leave no letters available for the underline accelerators. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. Really the only issue is that you can't have Ctrl- shortcuts in a terminal program, which is kind of lame, but I don't think it's an enormous disaster. FWIW you can't have Alt- shortcuts either, since apps like Emacs also expect to get Alt. So using Alt doesn't help. Only using Hyper or something would really be effective. We could use NumLock, then you could accelerate lots of stuff at once without holding down a key. ;-) Havoc From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f118.hotmail.com [216.32.181.118]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89272BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: compiling gnome-libs Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB7DDB60:01C0A885] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All, Has anyone had problems running make check on ORBIT-0.5.6? I received this error (in short) ... file test-dynany.c line 330 (test_array) assertion failed .... Any ideas? Anyway, I ignored to see how the rest of the libs/gnome core stuff would react and there didn't __SEEM__ to be any side affects. BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. TIA -Ants _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 06:07:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E69602BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13684; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:31 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to the configurator. These are: /tmp/orbit-username/ /tmp/.sawmill-username/ Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. Hope that solves the problem... Donald Tournier. __________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Fri Mar 9 06:23:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E882BC15 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA08066; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:22:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Anthony Gardner wrote: > BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to > access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such > configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. > > Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. I had something similar once, due to different prefix/sysconfdir settings. Make sure you compile everything with --sysconfdir=/etc. Maybe this fixes the problem. Regards, Jens From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Fri Mar 9 09:49:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB252DE7F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GSXRT2FD; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT806; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14bO3A-0003XI-00 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010309093924.S6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, those are good. Well, I logged out and back in and the problem seems to be fixed. Maybe there was a missing .pid file for sawmill or something. Personally, I find the stability of gnome still leaves a lot to be desired. You shouldn't have to log out and back in. Many of the details are starting to get so obscured that it's starting to feel like *shudder* windoze. I truly hope these Linux desktop efforts still keep Unix as the fine product that it is. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000, Donald Tournier wrote: > > I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally > worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there > are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I > had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to > the configurator. These are: > > /tmp/orbit-username/ > /tmp/.sawmill-username/ > > Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. > Hope that solves the problem... > > Donald Tournier. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? > > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From famrom@idecnet.com Fri Mar 9 12:10:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (61-MADR-X48.libre.retevision.es [62.83.23.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA362DCCD for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01169 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010309153821.A1162@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jnelson@lexonia.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:45:27PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jnelson@lexonia.com (2001-03-08 at 1545.27 -0500): > > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > > which we can't count on. > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? Some, maybe, all, no. And some of us, are already using it for other things, ie window manager tasks, so no too (now that I have found a job for them, and that I can handle windows via keyboard, it would be a step back ;] ). > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. Hehehe, X is not just two options, mapping is not just that, I have Hyper, others have Meta, the other guy will have whatever he wants. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. IIRC, MacOS does not use Alt to open menus, but MS Windows does. An app that does this under Linux is NS4, all is done via Alt. On the other hand, how do you open a menu without a mouse in MacOS (or in NS4)? How would it be opened if GNOME uses Alt instead of Ctrl? Alt+Space and then single keys (the underlined letters)? And what would happen in consoles if the running app wants Alt+Space (or the keycombo that becomes elected as "go to menu")? Tricky land. :[ GSR From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 19:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E4B42DB57 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.28.27] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:14:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams: Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! Matt On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > HTH, > > Steve From jfleck@inkstain.net Fri Mar 9 19:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1AB2DEED for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15413; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Matthew Hoffman Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > Mr. Williams: > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > Matt - Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on gnome-hackers: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html John From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 22:55:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061582DF87 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.227.186] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: More Gnome strangeness Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030922063100.01486@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've got some more strangeness on my hands... After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! Matthew Hoffman From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Fri Mar 9 23:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69E2E22F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA09977; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A3xDw01189; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9A452.7070406@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:49:38 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
when I try to build any debian package the  ${shlibs:Depends}  statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file.  I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff.
  And something else...  the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run  dh_make -l
If you know how to solve any of these, please help.
Thanks  -SCUD
From simon@burble.net Fri Mar 9 23:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from burble.net (adsl-63-201-63-134.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.134]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45F2C863 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from galactica (adsl-64-169-66-92.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.66.92]) by burble.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30009 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Simon M. C. Butler" To: Subject: newbie question Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager my issues are: 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. appreciate any tips. rgds. -simon- From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 00:07:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459642BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.230.102] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams , mhoffman1@pdq.net Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030923175400.00780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yes, it is the desk guide (that is the name that comes up in "properties" when I right-click on it), so that much is certain. As you can see from my other recent message, I'm experiencing a lot of strangeness from my Gnome, including KDE icons mysteriously appearing on the desktop, then disappearing when I leave and restart X. I'm afraid I have a virus. Matthew Hoffman On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > Hmm, > > Not sure what you're talking about then. I though (in hope) that > you were referring to the desk guide :) If you could possibly > provide more description I and others might be able to help! Have > you checked the bug as mentioned by John? > > > Steve > > On 09 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Mr. Williams: > > > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > > > > Matt > > > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > > > > > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > > > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > > > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > > > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > > > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > > > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > > > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 00:08:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEA62BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From chultquist@alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 10 07:47:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uct.ac.za (mail.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE872C8B5 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za ([137.158.133.133]) by mail.uct.ac.za with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bimD-0000br-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +0200 Received: from pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za (mail@pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.108]) by alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18359 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:45:43 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=carl) by pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14bikG-0006Zf-00 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:45:16 +0200 Subject: Taslklist: assertion failed? From: Carl Hultquist To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.09.15.02 - Preview Release) Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:45:14 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi I'm using a Debian system and recently upgraded my packages which included an upgrade of Gnome. Most of the Gnome packages (notably gnome-core and libpanel-applet0) are on version 1.3.1.1 now according to my system. Whenever I try to load up a tasklist applet, it doesn't work and instead produces a small black pixel on my panel. Running 'panel' from a term and trying this again, I get the following error message in the term: ** CRITICAL **: file goad.c: line 844 (goad_server_activate_shlib): assertion `i' failed. If I load up goad-browser and try to activate the tasklist there, it gives the same error. Using dpkg, I've found that goad-browser (and hence possibly goad.c) belong to package gnome-bin but I can't locate the source for this and so can't try to resolve the problem myself! Any ideas? Ciao Carl From jocknerd@home.com Sat Mar 10 13:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mulder.self.hom (cx23684-a.chspk1.va.home.com [24.4.151.54]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363772DD99 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mulder.self.hom (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with ESMTP id f2AI1st05839 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mulder.self.hom: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Self X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. Here's my list of problems: 1. Can't change themes because I can't make any changes inside of Control Panel with Sawfish. Everything else in Control Panel works though. 2. Desk guide doesn't work. I can try and add it, but all that shows up is a little dot on my panel. Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome packages have been replaced by gnome packages. This is the second time in the last month this has happened. It never happened before. I thnik the ximian developers are spending all their time on Evolution and Red carpet and they aren't keeping up with gnome now. Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 10 15:08:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0B22BB31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2AKCak02761 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 GMT Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: <20010310201236.A1833@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jocknerd@home.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, Jeff Self wrote: > I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. > Here's my list of problems: I don't get this pair, but I haven't updated recently. > Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an > update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome > packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than > the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome > packages have been replaced by gnome packages. [snip] > Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my > helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced > with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and > I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. I think the decision to put the beta packages separate was so that people didn't run apt-get and get them by mistake. I think this was a good decision. Beta software is, well. Beta :) I haven't seen packages of later Gnome betas though. I probably avoided the mix and match because I added the beta line to apt/sources.list, and commented out all the normal ones, because I had not updated in a good while. I didn't want to get bogged down in all the other stuff; I just wanted the beta packages. So I ran apt-get with just the Ximian lines visible, not the main Debian ones; and then uncommented the main Debian ones again. This was sheer "make things easy by avoiding upgrading loads at once" behaviour, but it seems to have saved me from quite a few problems. Telsa From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 15:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Mail.austin.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE122DB9C for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by Mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:15:13 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by sm11.texas.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:06:11 -0600 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.211]) by mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:12:25 -0600 Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2A59hs06781 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Received: (qmail 11737 invoked by uid 38); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:59 -0000 X-Envelope-Sender: scud_mlist@seznam.cz Received: (qmail 11701 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/137254 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:35:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A559D2BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:44:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How do you do it? Thanks, Matthew On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > How did you install Gnome? Was it using RPMs or did you compile it? > What version of Gnome are you running, 1.2 or 1.4 beta? > > Steve > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome > > screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE > > icons were gone. > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate > > sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? > > Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! > > > > Matthew Hoffman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:36:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459932BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:07:31 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031012222500.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams and all: I checked out the bug report, but it doesn't seem to fit my problem, because the reported segmentation fault shuts down the whole panel, and in my case only the tasklist applet disappeared (and now, happily, has been restored). However, I may be getting to the bottom of this in some respects. I've found that my KDE icons are always put on the desktop if I exit Netscape Communicator from the newsreader (I can get rid of them by sending a kill signal to the PID for the the kfm). I've found other bugs like this in my Linux Netscape Comm. package, and I'll send reports to Netscape. However, I still can't fix my desk guide. Also On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > > Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on > gnome-hackers: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html > > John From eli@eazel.com Sat Mar 10 20:19:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712B2CF34 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (prometheus.eazel.com [10.10.100.68]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GA0EBZ00.NZE; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAAD359.C792AF37@eazel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:22:33 -0800 From: Eli Goldberg Reply-To: eli@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, nautilus-test@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day: Sunday March 11th (20:00 UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Join members of the Nautilus community this Sunday (tomorrow) for the final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day. You too can come and... - Discover terrifying bugs in the final candidate builds! - Experience a successful Nautilus installation through the Eazel Installer on your Red Hat 6.2 or 7.0 system! (*) - Watch Eazel staff members die of panic attacks! To join in the excitement, visit #nautilus on irc.gnome.org, starting at Sunday 20:00 UTC (12:00 PDT), and probably ending around Monday 4:00 UTC. (*) - This thrill will be subject to Eskil & Robey pulling off a miracle today. ;) From bighead@crosswinds.net Sat Mar 10 21:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.94.251.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A762D2D6 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bighead@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01162; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Message-Id: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: bighead set sender to bighead@crosswinds.net using -f From: Archit Baweja To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Archit Baweja From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sun Mar 11 01:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22792BA85 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA19318 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA10719 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12987 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id BAA25206; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: GNOME: Pilot, Calendar Addressbook Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm having problem building Gnome-pim.1.3.2. The following are the problems that I got: calendar-conduit.c:45: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.c:46: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory In file included from calendar-conduit.c:53: calendar-conduit.h:39: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.h:40: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [calendar-conduit.lo] Error 1 Could somebody help? a. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:39:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74752BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAh3P11219 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Message-ID: <20010311104303.A11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain>; from mhoffman1@pdq.net on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 or thereabouts, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro > installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say > this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How > do you do it? It's annoying, isn't it? :) There's no easy "what is this version of Gnome?" in the menu. There is a gnome-about program you can run at the command-line in a gnome-terminal, but that's just the credits for GNOME and doesn't have the version of Gnome in it. "System info" on the menu doesn't have it either. I usually suggest just checking the version of gnome-core and gnome-libs. This gets complicated because some distros use different names for them. But "rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs" will work on RH. "dpkg -l gnome-core" works on Debian, but I forget the package name for what I call gnome-libs. RH 7.0 came with Gnome 1.2. I know, because I have it too. As to the original problem: > > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared > > > on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and > > > went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. > > > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable > > > alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I > > > deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! It sounds more like Netscape weirdness to me, but I am biassed. I have had Netscape do weird things to my machine and I like to blame everything on it. Disappearing taskbar: is this the bar at the bottom of the screen? That's the Gnome panel. If you have a terminal you can type into, "panel &" should either restore it, or whinge that you already have a panel running. If you have a panel running (allegedly), then Gnome is confused. The panel will have said "hello, I exist" to Gnome. It's then supposed to say "I'm going away now" when it stops running. But sometimes it dies without saying that and Gnome thinks it's still there. This business of getting the "But a panel is already running!" message when there is a conspicuous lack of a panel used to occur, but I really thought it had been fixed by Gnome 1.2. I'm not sure about unavailable alternate sessions. This sounds like you are logging in through gdm, the Gnome display manager (aka "the graphical login prompt". I believe that offers choices of sessions? I don't use this so I can't really offer much help here. Telsa From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 11 05:45:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulexite.lion-access.net (ulexite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust204.tnt22.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.138.204]) by ulexite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 657EAFAFF2 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:44:44 -0100 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Three stupid questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse TFM) 1. How can I change the gdm background image? 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu for instance)? 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the graphics to look good to :-) Thank you all in advance! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:45:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F4A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAnYO11248 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Message-ID: <20010311104934.B11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain>; from bighead@crosswinds.net on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 or thereabouts, Archit Baweja wrote: > Hi > > Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I > have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the > Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on > startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, > and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Gmc is the default for people who have already been using Gnome. If it's a new account, then Nautilus will start. (I think.) First kill off gmc, then start nautilus. Like this: open control-center ->Session properties and startup programs ->startup programs (tab) ->browse currently-running programs...(button) ->find and highlight (left-click on) "gmc --sm-config-blah blah" ->change the "style" from Respawn to Normal (button at top) ->click "remove". Bye-bye, gmc. Now you have no file manager. Start nautilus off the foot menu. Now you have nautilus. You can't kill off gmc any more easily because of that "respawn" option. That means "if I die, restart me immediately". The panel has that respawn thing too. So killing off at the command line will just result in it dying and respawning. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 06:16:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAD12BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BBK3B11383 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Three stupid questions Message-ID: <20010311112003.F11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 or thereabouts, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) :) > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? I don't use it, but you'll probably need to edit the gdm.conf file which I expect is in /etc/X11/gdm/. You will find TFM at http://www.mkp.net/~mkp/gdm/gdm.pdf > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? control-center->panel->menu. Turn "applets" to "in a submenu" or "off", whichever. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue Don't use that, either. Sorry. Telsa From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 11 06:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (plato.exmail.de [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5302BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25087 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Received: from r678.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.21.170) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:18:32 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Pim Schellart Cc: Subject: Re: Three stupid questions In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Pim Schellart wrote: > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? Look into /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default (or create it if it's not there). This is a simple shell script which is called at startup. E.g. I use: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xsetroot -solid "#5971a5" to set a solid background color. But you can also use xv or another program to set a background image. Some people start the matrix screensaver on the root window. > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? Right click on the foot icon and select 'properties' then. This opens a nice configuration dialog, which is propably what you want. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the > middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a > window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I > want the graphics to look good to :-) Sorry, don't use enlightenment. Regards, Jens From rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Sun Mar 11 08:53:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca [128.100.8.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258222CAED for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from skule.ecf (rivet@skule.ecf [128.100.8.6]) by cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21833 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (rivet@localhost) by skule.ecf (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA276703684 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: skule.ecf: rivet owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Desmond Rivet X-Sender: rivet@skule.ecf To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: updater Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I have to download something new to get more updates? TIA, ---------------------------------------------- Desmond Rivet rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Eng Sci 0T0 + PEY rivet_d@hotmail.com You live and learn, or you don't live long From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 09:35:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BDF2CAB7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BEcdJ12030 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: updater Message-ID: <20010311143839.B11981@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 or thereabouts, Desmond Rivet wrote: > > I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a > while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I > have to download something new to get more updates? One of the helix/ximian lists would be better for this, but oh well :) I gather there have not been that many new updates for a while. There are only so many people working at Ximian, and they have also been building RC, XST, Evolution, and the packages for the first beta (which were on a different site so that people wouldn't accidentally upgrade stable working versions to unstable beta stuff). Just to add to the mix, there was an office move in the middle of all that too. I gather this because I asked yesterday, and the best answer I got for when updates will resume was "soon". Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:10:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A82D39F for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFEId12245 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: newbie question Message-ID: <20010311151418.A12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from simon@burble.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 or thereabouts, Simon M. C. Butler wrote: > i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on > RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager > > 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom > of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window > up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? > 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit > the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. I am wondering what's getting read when you startx. Have you got a ~/.Xclients or ~/.xinitrc there? What's in it? (them?) If they're present, what permissions do they have? I encountered similar symptoms to your second problem when using Window Maker with Gnome at first. Wmaker wanted to do the session management. When I quit Gnome, I'd get a blank screen and didn't return to the console. Telling wmaker not to session-manage fixed that. Can you do control-alt-F1 (F2, whatever) to get back to the console you started X from? As to starting a panel, that -should- start along with the other things which routinely start in Gnome. I believe that's file manager, help browser, control center and panel. You can start those individually from a terminal with "gmc &", "gnome-help-browser &", "gnomecc &" and "panel &". (You don't need the & signs; they're just to get your prompt back :)) Starting them from a terminal might give you some errors which make things clearer. Or they may Just Work. If they are remembered when you quit and restart, problem one is dealt with. I hope. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:12:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16912BB41 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFG4h12250 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010311151604.B12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship>; from famrom@idecnet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 or thereabouts, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): (killing things with 'top' and the 'k' key) > > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. > > Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and > quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your > system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs > and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). > > Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after > remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a > fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, > not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). I checked (briefly) on this. Apparently you shouldn't be able to kill init (and a few other things) via top on Linux. The magic sysreq keys are a separate story. I am still not going to try it to find out though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:21:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E1A2DD96 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFOtl12294 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Message-ID: <20010311152455.C12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com>; from wphewitt@home.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 or thereabouts, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... Control-center->panel->menus. You can certainly remove Favorites with that. Not sure about a Red Hat Menus submenu. I am running RH 7.0 and don't see it (unless it only comes up for root or something?) RH doesn't compile Gnome stuff into the kernel, no :) That's pretty separate. However, I am not quite sure myself what generates what shows up on menus. Two things to look at for RH are o anything in /usr/share/gnome/ or /usr/share/applets which has the suffix .desktop o anything in /etc/X11/applnk/ Things in the first one will show up in the menu editor. Things in that second one will show up for some reason but are not found by the menu editor. When you have a Gimp in each one of those locations, you end up with two Gimp entries on your menu. I believe the /etc/X11/applnk one is a residue from RH's old desktop setup for X, prior to Gnome. Telsa From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 10:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D112DC91 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-249.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.249]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2001031115334520405uq8tee>; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:33:46 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:31:03 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: /dev/dsp busy X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010311153347.A0D112DC91@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've somehow broken the gnome sounds. I can start esd and I hear the beeps. I can also play CDs using the CD player app. Gmixer works OK too, as far as controlling volume from the CD player. What appears to happen as far as the gnome system sounds is that /dev/dsp is busy doing something else. I can't find out what it's busy doing though. Can anyone help? I use the 4-front drivers and I'm using kernel 2.4.x and the latest driver. Fred From landie@concentric.net Sun Mar 11 12:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.concentric.net (ts004d21.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.26.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D202DDEA for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from landie@localhost) by smtp.concentric.net (8.10.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id f2BHTfg13973 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Subject: off topic Message-ID: <20010311122941.A13970@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion anyone using sylpheed having problems creating mailboxes already in use by procmail to filter mail????? any advice -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sun Mar 11 12:05:01 EST 2001 From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sun Mar 11 16:29:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90AB42BB45 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.24.225] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:29:03 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Further development... Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:38:27 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031115400300.00885@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Matthew Hoffman mhoffman1@pdq.net From gohel@csee.usf.edu Sun Mar 11 17:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3E2BBD4 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0356.cvx15-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.45.101]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00752 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAC03C9.8ABD6927@csee.usf.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:01:29 -0800 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME Mailing List Subject: Re: Further development... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear > without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have > to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Before you do that I suggest that you create a new user and test the behavior of GNOME under that clean environment. If that produces the same result, I would tend to think that your installation is suspect, and then I would reinstall the components. Finally, if that continues to produce the same results, I would then write up a bug report. Being able to reproduce the possible bug would be helpful. -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu From federico@ximian.com Sun Mar 11 20:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (cs2-16.modems.unam.mx [132.248.10.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB682BA85; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12779; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Fact-of-life: You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix release. Simple. Really. * Availability: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz * Changes in this version: - Fixed thinko in color parsing routines (John). - Added --disable-mmx for buggy binutils installations (Timur). Love love love, Federico From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 20:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154DD2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip-32-101-75-151.oh.us.prserv.net[32.101.75.151]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2001031201393920202knin0e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:39:40 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500 To: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not there yet. Fred >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix >release. Simple. Really. >* Availability: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 11 21:19:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2423C2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2C2I0L12337; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:18:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released From: Stephen "M." Williams To: fheitka@attglobal.net Cc: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 11 Mar 2001 20:16:37 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has it, though. Steve On 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500, fheitka@attglobal.net wrote: > In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 > at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: > > That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on > ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that > master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I > checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not > there yet. > > Fred > > >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, > > >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do > >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix > >release. Simple. Really. > > >* Availability: > > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From gards1@iinet.net.au Sun Mar 11 21:56:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C9FF2BC98 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15936 invoked by uid 666); 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO optimist) (203.59.78.218) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab67$f83d9320$0100a8c0@optimist> From: "Gards" To: Subject: When GDM starts, it kills my keyboard! Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the whole helix/ximian-gnome suite and = its all installed perfectly.. but whenever i start GDM to use gnome, my = keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll lock doesnt turn my = little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's or anything = because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. and the = keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really = want to use Gnome. Im running Debian (potato), kernel is 2.2.18 and stable, the mouse is an = intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and the keyboard is your = standard 105 key US International.. I can't give you any output, because, like I say, i cant change out of = GDM to get to a console to see whats really happening. I _can_ start = linux without GDM though.. Any help who be much much much appreciated. Thanks. Mikey. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the = whole=20 helix/ximian-gnome suite and its all installed perfectly.. but whenever = i start=20 GDM to use gnome, my keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll = lock=20 doesnt turn my little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's = or=20 anything because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. = and the=20 keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window=20 managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really want to = use=20 Gnome.
 
Im running Debian (potato), kernel is = 2.2.18 and=20 stable, the mouse is an intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and = the=20 keyboard is your standard 105 key US International..
 
I can't give you any output, because, = like I say, i=20 cant change out of GDM to get to a console to see whats really = happening. I=20 _can_ start linux without GDM though..
 
Any help who be much much much=20 appreciated.
 
Thanks.
Mikey.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0-- From fheitka@attglobal.net Mon Mar 12 07:10:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6D2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-139.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.139]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20010312121051201005pmmte>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:10:52 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:11:13 -0500 To: Stephen "M." Williams , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312121053.3FF6D2BAAF@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com>, on 03/11/01 at 08:16 PM, Stephen "M." Williams said: >I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has >it, though. I tried to download it from there and got an error. It shows up in the links though. Fred From kolarov@net-bg.net Mon Mar 12 12:41:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.net-bg.net (mail.net-bg.net [212.124.88.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DA2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool7.ppp.net-bg.net [212.124.88.199]) by mail.net-bg.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA13192 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:42:56 +0200 From: Yavor Kolarov Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: SlashApp MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Thanks in advance, Yavor From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 12:59:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC682BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cWah-0000yp-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:58:43 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 18:58:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices > headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any > way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Right click on SlashApp -> Properties -> Site -> Slashdot, easy isn't it? Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 13:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95F2CD45 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXP8-0001BW-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:50:51 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:50:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > [General] and [Display] > [General] contains options about what article information to show > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 14:09:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988532BC8B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA12741 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > > [General] and [Display] > > [General] contains options about what article information to show > > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. > > Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I > have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another > tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my general tab either.... > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 14:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48DC2E112 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXrs-0001IN-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:32 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Wandered Inn Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 20:20:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > general tab either.... Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the difference. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From jrigler@colorado.edu Mon Mar 12 14:55:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2617F2DB5F for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2CJt4J19134 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAD2998.D5CCEB54@colorado.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Focus on window with private color map Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently upgraded to Ximian Gnome (1.2) on a RedHat 7.0 system. I'm mostly pleased, but have noticed a fairly undesirable feature. I use RSI's IDL (Interactive Data Language) to produce plots. IDL does not play nicely with true color displays, and requires a private color map when generating plots with standard 8-bit color tables. Previously when I put my mouse over the plot window, it became focused (since I have my WM set to do this), causing it to acquire its private colormap, and screwing up everything else on the screen. As bad as this is, at least when my mouse was over the plot, it looked correct. Now the plot window is not given its private colormap unless I actually try to move or resize it. I suspect this is something wrong with the way IDL creates child windows, but I've even configured Sawfish to "Give focus to windows even when they haven't asked for it" (this is a "Focus" option in the Sawfish configurator), and I have the same problem. Any ideas? -EJR From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 15:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136702BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA13331 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD33F0.8564F437@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > > general tab either.... > > Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the > difference. Likely, 1.2 here. > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From leonchiver@xnet.ro Mon Mar 12 17:17:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653922E010 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 18dial235.xnet.ro ([217.10.218.235]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:33 +0200 Subject: gnome themes From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.27 - Preview Release) Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:17:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a new engine theme but it installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. Thanks guys. From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Mon Mar 12 17:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B12BE08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust157.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.157]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11579 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:47:38 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Leon Chiver wrote: > > Hi! > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > new engine theme but it > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. ./configure --prefix=/usr will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc file in /usr/share/themes/ By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: "./configure --help|more" to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 12 17:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (86-MADR-X28.libre.retevision.es [62.83.9.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C252D488 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02141 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes Message-ID: <20010312235843.A2138@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com>; from aquari0@linuxfreak.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 04:47:38PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion aquari0@linuxfreak.com (2001-03-12 at 1647.38 -0600): > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > > new engine theme but it > > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. > ./configure --prefix=/usr > will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc > file in /usr/share/themes/ > By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. > ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: > "./configure --help|more" > to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. I think he is speaking about already compiled RPMs and a way to tell Gtk+ where to look for themes (which are not from RPMs, I guess). As solution, install and then symlink in where Gtk+ searchs. I have my config that way, in the worst case I just have to rebuild symlinks from some /usr dirs to some /usr/local dirs. Well, just guessing, he could explain better. GSR From veillard@redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F932DB5C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21426 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Nicely suggested by our KDE colleagues in their first Kernel Cousin KDE issue ;-) http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010310_1.html It's a good idea. We used to have commit list reports posted, there is the news.gnome.org service too, but we never really had something like the Kernel Traffic analysis done on the gnome-list for example. It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check http://kt.zork.net/ Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From jirka@zinc.5z.com Mon Mar 12 21:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF02D9BB; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2D2TGm08444; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:29:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:21:55 -0800 From: George To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: gdm 2.2.0 "Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky" release Message-ID: <20010312182155.F6382@monique.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv'. Now at long last, people that don't want to run unstable software can also break their systems with this brand spanking new stable gdm 2.2.0 release. In fact, this is the first time you can break your system with a stable 2.x release of gdm, as before you would be breaking your system with a beta. What is GDM? (You mean you don't know already???) :) GDM is GNOME Display Manager. An xdm like program that manages the login screen to your GNOME desktop. It is not based on xdm and is a complete rewrite in fact. It was originally written by Martin K. Petersen, but he does not have the time to maintain the 2.x tree anymore, so I took over fixing this up for the 1.4 gnome release. Nowdays most work on gdm2 is done by me and Lee Mallabone. New stuff in 2.2.0 (from 2.0.99) - gdmconfig now works with more fontsizes (me, Lee) - Another minor xinerama fix - Fixup the pam message voodoo, so that it now is at least functional even though it may not be pretty nor 100% correct. - Initial gdmconfig documentation (Trevor Curtis, Lee) - gdmconfig now correctly handles RelaxPerms (Lee) - gdmconfig has now nice pam console helper setup (Lee) - gladify/beautify gdmchooser (Lee) - gdmchooser now apparently works with xdm (Matthias Clasen) - Better specfile (Gregory Leblanc) - Packagers should read the comment on end of config/gdm.conf.in (especially debian people) - Configuration file now does not force the adobe version of helvetica, and postgres and pvm users are excluded by default (Vlad Hrachev) - i18n fixes (Gediminas Paulauskas) - New easter egg - Bunch of minor fixes - Translation updates (Yukihiro Nakai, Carlos Perelló Marín, Martin Norbäck, Fatih Demir, Simos Xenitellis, Kjartan Maraas, Christian Meyer, Christophe Merlet, Stanislav Visnovsky, me) To get this modern marvel of technology go to ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/sources/gdm/gdm-2.2.0.tar.gz RPMS can be had from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/i386/ ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/SRPMS/ Since it nowdays seems that this is only accessible through mirrors of ftp.gnome.org, you can get all these files from ftp://ftp.5z.com/pub/unix/ as well if you can't find it on one of the mirrors, though please use the mirrors if you can. -George -- George A good memory is needed after one has lied. -- Pierre Corneille From jdub@giardia.yourweb.com.au Mon Mar 12 21:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from giardia.yourweb.com.au (giardia.yourweb.com.au [61.8.3.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E852BCB2 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by giardia.yourweb.com.au (Postfix, from userid 609) id 7268118064; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Daniel Veillard Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010313132252.A22338@giardia.yourweb.com.au> References: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 06:22:53PM -0500 X-Message: Leenooks, Lienucks, Leenoos, Lienus, Let's call the whole thing off. X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel > Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help > advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check Hi Daniel, Indeed, doing a kernel cousin is fun. I did the Sydney Linux User Group cousin (now sleeping, no one was able to share the load) for it's seven issues. Absolute PITA to do by yourself, but with a group cousin, it's quite easy. I'd be interested in helping out, or guiding the project to fruition. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From jrigler@colorado.edu Tue Mar 13 19:50:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85082E3FF for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2E0o0J05041 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the title bar, or tried to resize the window. In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest version of Mozilla. Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's gnome configuration are significantly different than the default configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? -EJR From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 14 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E22BDD0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 16493414 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAF1CD6.7040009@megapathdsl.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:25:10 -0800 From: Miles Lane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac17 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010207 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian appears to have dropped off the web (www.ximian.com, helix-update and redcarpet all fail). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 23:22:38.515867 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:38.525122 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50660+ PTR? 10.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:38.659223 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50660* 1/2/2 PTR dendrite.ximian.com. (154) 23:22:38.661216 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50661+ PTR? 4.176.200.216.in-addr.arpa. (44) (DF) 23:22:38.700100 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50661* 1/2/2 PTR ns1.megapath.net. (138) 23:22:50.515880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.615880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2482 > axon.ximian.com.8000: S 781966852:781966852(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.617078 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50662+ PTR? 12.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:56.729362 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50662* 1/2/2 PTR axon.ximian.com. (150) From jgift@wanadoo.fr Wed Mar 14 04:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3432BDDD for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:40 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.3.74) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:22 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14d77m-0000X4-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Best user list? Message-ID: <20010314095918.B1992@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm looking for a general user list where everything is discussed from particular problems to the future of Gnome. Is this it and if not, where should I go? Thanks. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From beirne@neo.rr.com Wed Mar 14 07:11:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pop-server.twmi.rr.com (unknown [65.24.0.109]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF062DC32 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from neo.rr.com (beirne@a13b025.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.25]) by pop-server.twmi.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2EC9Hw22481; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103141209.f2EC9Hw22481@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Joshua Rigler Cc: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Joshua Rigler of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 MST." <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:15:50 -0500 From: Beirne Konarski Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. > > .... > > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? I had enough lockups with Ximian and RedHat 7 that I started losing files on my hard disk after having to hit the reset key. When I lost my VMware NT drive image it was the last straw and I switched to Debian, which has worked much better. Beirne -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A882BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20216 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:42 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdk2WRm4; Wed Mar 14 15:06:16 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <385A497A.B757AB75@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys (Net Technology Systems) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: mp3 play panel app available? References: <3859C106.19AAC38E@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 0000001e-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm actually about to release pretty soon a beta version of a lightweight mp3 player for Gnome that will also have a panel interface. I'll make an announcement as soon as it will be stable enough to be released. Frederic Bellaice NTSys (Net Technology Systems) Daniel Weber wrote: > > I'm sitting here listening to xmms and was wondering if there was a > panel applet that just plays mp3 files. xmms is a nice program, but > I usually don't want to take up screen real estate when I'm hacking.... > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:04:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E32BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20351; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:48 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdwf5dJh; Wed Mar 14 15:06:20 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tommy_T Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 00000037-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's web site. Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version of Gnome. Frederic (fbellaiche@ntsys.fr) Tommy_T wrote: > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > Slackware > version of Linux. Is it available? > Thanks in advance, > Tom (tootie-t@pacbell.net) > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 14 10:59:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF18A2DBBE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28895; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:12:54 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma028892; Wed, 14 Mar 01 19:12:48 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA17692; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:34 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma017689; Wed, 14 Mar 01 18:57:12 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25014 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA11906; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:05 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 14 Mar 2001 18:57:03 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from gnome-core 1.2.4): (gdb) run Starting program: /home/gregory/ftp/gnome/gnome-core-1.2.4/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () (gdb) where #0 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () #1 0xff3be378 in ?? () #2 0xff3be5e0 in ?? () #3 0xff3be6f0 in ?? () #4 0xff3be838 in ?? () #5 0xfedfd65c in _XsunRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #6 0xfeddf394 in XRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #7 0xfeece07c in gdk_im_open () at gdkim.c:426 #8 0xfeebb488 in gdk_init_check (argc=0x1, argv=0xffbee938) at gdk.c:465 #9 0xfefbf880 in gtk_init_check (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:247 #10 0xfefbfddc in gtk_init (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:471 #11 0xff207fa0 in gnome_add_gtk_arg_callback (con=0x3cb00, reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x3d7f0 "", data=0x0) at gnome-init.c:139 #12 0xfed61ec8 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0xff284df8, post=1) at popt.c:56 #13 0xfed61e6c in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0x3c9c4, post=1) at popt.c:51 #14 0xfed62898 in poptGetNextOpt (con=0x3cb00) at popt.c:318 #15 0xfee414dc in gnomelib_parse_args (argc=248576, argv=0xffbeef14, popt_flags=0) at gnome-popt.c:86 #16 0xff208338 in gnome_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0xffbeef14 "˙žđČ", argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, flags=0, return_ctx=0x0) at gnome-init.c:456 #17 0xff378e5c in gnome_CORBA_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0x1cd58 "1.2.4", argc=0xffbeee84, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, popt_flags=0, return_ctx=0x0, gnorba_flags=0, ev=0xffbeee20) at orbitgnome.c:98 #18 0x1bbe0 in main_terminal_program (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, environ=0xffbeef1c) at gnome-terminal.c:2790 #19 0x1c018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14) at gnome-terminal.c:2934 Any ideas?... -- Gregory From jprokopek@snet.net Wed Mar 14 11:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.snet.net (smtp.snet.net [204.60.6.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E62C930 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from snet.net (119.12.252.64.snet.net [64.252.12.119]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f2EGHqL29469; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AAF9A51.9A537E24@snet.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:20:33 -0500 From: John Prokopek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Mar 14 16:29:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697802BEA3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from metric.ximian.com ([141.154.95.59]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14414; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:28:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200103142128.QAA14414@trna.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 From: Mark Gordon To: Joshua Rigler Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.12.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 16:11:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700, Joshua Rigler wrote: > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. I've heard some reports of Sawfish focus problems, but nothing specific to Ximian GNOME or Red Hat 7.0. I don't recall enough of the details to know whether they're the cause of your problems. > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I haven't seen this one. Maybe running Mozilla used enough extra memory to make your machine swap enough to make it look like the menus hung. If you'd been running previous Mozilla versions, that's probably not the problem, though. Was this in just one application, or in a wide range of applications? I like running a cpu monitor applet so I can tell when an application goes nuts and starts hogging the CPU, though in some cases applications hang due to networking issues that don't actually consume any CPU to speak of. > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? If it's a window focus issue, I'd look a the window manager. If you like, you can revert to the RH7 version of Sawfish, though it's probably best to do so when not actually running Sawfish... -Mark Gordon From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 14 22:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC542BDE7 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2F3kth14686 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 25 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet 0.9.2 running. This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from MandrakeCooker RPMs). I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old RPMs? Thanks in advance, everyone! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 14 22:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41ADD2D43C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa14085; 14 Mar 2001 22:59 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00627; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB03F22.8D2AFD9A@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:03:46 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Canvas resize bug? References: <20010314170541.CDA322E1A3@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, I notice that when you resize a Gtk or Gnome canvas, any regular GtkWidget contained therein DOES NOT get moved or resized properly. Instead, it remains in it's exact original location. This messes things up majorly. Anyone have a workaround? Like, is there a way to get the message being sent to the canvas for a resize? Perhaps there's a way to pass this info along to the widget? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From mimicky@hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 00:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.123]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4206F2E038 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:25:58 -0800 Received: from 168.28.178.73 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.28.178.73] From: "Micky M" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A7F3F20:01C0AD10] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear all: I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. --Micky. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 00:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5F2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010315053024.CXAY25216.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:24 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12711; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This seems to have something to do with the 2.4 kernel and oaf. It's a mess I think. I really, really like GNOME but lately things are just slow. It almost seems GNOME is living up to it's old self from a year or so ago when people complained about it being slow. Bloat comes to mind but I guess it's the way of the future:-) With a 900MHz athalon, 256Megs of memory and ATA100 drives it should just fly. Maybe I'm expecting to much. Maybe oaf and corba need to be coded in assembly:-) What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill off nautilus/mozilla processes. There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough as a file manager - yet. At any rate what you can do to help is kill oaf off with oaf-slay every time you log out. That seems to help. Any response from GNOME developers on this would be welcome. On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only > ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 > release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet > 0.9.2 running. > > This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from > MandrakeCooker RPMs). > > I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - > I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. > > Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old > RPMs? > > Thanks in advance, everyone! > -- > Sean Middleditch > of > AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Thu Mar 15 01:08:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015CA2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (garnet3-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.3]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 Received: from acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial1002.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.36.138]) by garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA67676; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: "Micky M" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Message-Id: <20010315010759.0d9a2a8c.bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 "Micky M" wrote: > Dear all: > > I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen > with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and > netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please > kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. > > --Micky. The easy answer: at the command line in a terminal window, type "panel &". Brett From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 04:01:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04032BE7D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2F90qc31112; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:00:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Farris Cc: Sean Middleditch , Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill > off nautilus/mozilla processes. I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive and consistent so they dropped support for it. > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > as a file manager - yet. Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. Regards, Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Thu Mar 15 04:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4572D711 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14dUUt-0000li-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB091DB.56C9E207@kscanners.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? No. I've been running Red Hat 7 and Ximian GNOME for quite some time, and haven't come across any major problems. Note, however, that I'm mainly using Red Hat 6 RPMs (we still have some Red Hat 6.2 installations, and I saw no reason for downloading two versions of everything); most of them will work on version 7 as long as you have the "compat" RPMs installed (which is very likely if you have upgraded from version 6). The only exception I can think of is gnome-core. > I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. Sounds to me like a problem with the focus settings in Sawfish. Have you checked "Focus Behaviour" under "Sawfish Window Manager" in the Control Center? ("Dialog windows inherit the focus from their parent" seems somewhat related to your problem.) > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I've never seen that, but then again, I haven't tested Mozilla as such (Galeon - http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - is more usable.) - Toralf From Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org Wed Mar 14 12:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9CF2BAAA; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.43]) by harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with ESMTP id SAA31108; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Received: (from simon@localhost) by vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Spoolhost) id SAA121094; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 From: Simon Budig To: Gimp-developer list Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all. Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for me this year. Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Thanks, Simon -- Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ From reboant@the-i.net Mon Mar 12 15:19:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sam.the-i.net (mail.the-i.net [206.136.176.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DB2DBCB for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from reboant (cca142.the-i.net [206.136.176.142]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab32$1d474b60$8eb088ce@thei.net> From: "Reboant" To: Subject: Self-Compiled Gnome Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:22:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just spent hours compiling gnome on Peanut linux just to find that the = panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an error message saying = "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel applets. I can click one of the side buttons on the panel to hide it then it = will go down to the bottom where it belongs and stay there but that = stupid error message keeps popping up over and over again.I'm going = crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can look at that might = help me Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and all the apps work just fine but no = applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG. There has to be some script or config file that'll set things straight = but I have no clue as to what or where.Could it have something to do = with permissions perhaps?Everything is owned by root just like in = KDE.Could that be a problem? Please help.I'd really like to get this thing working so I can see just = how good gnome really is.Thanks in advance ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just spent hours compiling gnome on = Peanut linux=20 just to find that the panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an = error=20 message saying "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel=20 applets.
 I can click one of the side = buttons on the=20 panel to hide it then it will  go down to the bottom where it = belongs and=20 stay there but that stupid error message keeps popping up over and over=20 again.I'm going crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can = look at=20 that might help me
 Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and = all the=20 apps work just fine but no applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG.
 There has to be some script or = config file=20 that'll set things straight but I have no clue as to what = or where.Could it=20 have something to do with permissions perhaps?Everything = is owned=20 by root just like in KDE.Could  that be a = problem?
Please help.I'd really like to get this = thing=20 working so I can see just how good gnome really is.Thanks in=20 advance
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0-- From joschi@eds.org Wed Mar 14 17:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.eds.org (zen.eds.org [205.179.187.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F452E453 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22320 invoked by uid 33); 14 Mar 2001 22:14:04 -0000 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: joschi@eds.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 64.160.162.151 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! -Josh From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54AF2BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:54 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:47 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dUKV-0000bN-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Sizing panel smaller? Message-ID: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Thanks, Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D12CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:58 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:43 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dXji-0000g9-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend > to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a > simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. > If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would > be appriciated. thanks! It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. root tail Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63F32BDAD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDbMc12659; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:42 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment (horzontal/vertical). Regards, Jens From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 15 08:42:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91752E120 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04466; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:41:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? From: Bart Kuik To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 14:38:35 +0000 Message-Id: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the standard-installation of Red Hat 6.2 is too old. To resize it You have to right-click anywhere on the panel and select : Panel -> Properties -> Size and there are some (7 in v1.3.0) choices from ultra tiny (too small) to ridiculous (too big). If your panel is too old, you'd better upgrade your whole gnome to 1.4 beta2. Very much has been improved in the meantime.... Bart From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 15 08:45:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58B2E29D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2FDjdh06085; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:47:54 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010315084754.D27630@sean.aweplay> References: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 04:01:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 58 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.15 04:01:11 -0500 Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to > kill > > off nautilus/mozilla processes. > > I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing > nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > Ah ha. Maybe that'll get Nautilus running on my system... > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus > development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > What!?! Now I really do have a distaste for Eazel/Nautilus. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like the one feature I wanted in GMC, and now they're never going to add it? And not intuitive? Even the biggest idiot understands how that works in Windows, what's wrong with it in Nautilus!? Argh! > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > Ya, I've done that, and opening a new directory is still less-than-snappy on my 1ghz Athlon.... > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From jwallen@techrepublic.com Thu Mar 15 09:16:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (unknown [208.50.220.170]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E932CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jwallen@localhost) by geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2FEDT411271 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: geddy.tech.techrepublic.com: jwallen owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: "jack wallen, jr." X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome-cal and mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is there a way to configure GNOME calendar to use a specific domain name when sending out e-mail reminders? as it stands it is adding my host name to the e-mail from addy. let me be more specific: jwallen@techrepublic.com is what i need jwallen@geddy.tech.techrepublic.com is what is being used. i realize that i could try to mess with sendmail to solve this problem but let's face it sendmail is not the easiest beast to configure. with applications like pine and such i can configure a specific domain name. so....can this be done with GNOME calendar? thanks a million. -- L I N U X L I N U X ---jack wallen, jr Track editor Linux/Infrastructure--- ----www.techrepublic.com 9900 Corporate Campus Drive----- -------Suite 1500 Louisville, KY 40223 502-814-7741------ X U N I L X U N I L From Melvin.Laney@itt.com Thu Mar 15 09:39:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gate1.itt.com (gate1.itt.com [151.190.254.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8912BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from no.name.available by gate1.itt.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 14:38:34 UT Received: from 151.190.173.213 by fwdcwall.de.ittind.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by fwemail3.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:33 -0500 Message-ID: <16BCA41BECFAD411931E00B0D068A21C1B8081@alexva-mail.alx.aes.de.ittind.com> From: "Laney, Jr., Melvin - AES" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RE: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assert ion Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John, I am also running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X session through Exceed. When I run linuxconf I get the errors listed below on my terminal. The app runs fine despite the error messages. I don't know why either. At least we know this is a consistent problem which isn't specific to your machine. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. -----Original Message----- From: John Prokopek [mailto:jprokopek@snet.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 09:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5A02BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FEndc16605; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? > > Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. > Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can > drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment > (horzontal/vertical). Oops, got something wrong here. Erm. Bart gave a good answer to this question. Sorry, but maybe my information was also useful ;-). Jens From ninetyninewaystodie@mailcity.com Thu Mar 15 10:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6238B2BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu Mar 15 07:04:27 2001 To: "Gnome General Mailing" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:27 -0500 From: "Salvatore Innanone" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? X-Sender-Ip: 198.62.209.10 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 10:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38A52E444 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W431C3; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6LJR; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZSl-0003oI-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: todo list Message-ID: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 10:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4D2CDD0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010315152539.GLLT4364.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:25:39 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02219; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100, Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > You know that statement is just down right wrong. Intuitiveness is in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone thinks or sees things the same way. The mailing list is a testament to the fact that people actually do want a copy a paste function. Providing this as a feature would have been a very nice option. It could be a preference that is turned on. > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > > Regards, > Jens How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a pain. From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 11:03:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from oxera.wanadoo.fr (unknown [193.252.19.223]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425322BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by oxera.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:03:28 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.234.217) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:02:53 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZa3-0000m6-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? Solved-Thanks Message-ID: <20010315162223.J214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:38:35PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik wrote: > You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the I'll have to pop it back on or look at my distro to see what version, Running potato... Thanks for the tip. received lot's of help, so thanks all for pointing out what I should have known if I'd spent more time on Gnome. My fault. Thanks again. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 11:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (mgate11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.158]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA932DBC9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id BAA03912 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id BAA15643 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, Gregory. > Hello here > > I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest > libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, > audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome > apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from > control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV > in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from > gnome-core 1.2.4): Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. # ./configure --disable-xim # make --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 15 11:24:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED2BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14daOX-000107-00; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: jacob berkman To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 are you running nautilus, or did you just install it? something that makes me suspicious is the fact that i get this message when i start nautilus: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory (this stems from me running devfs and not having a sound module loaded) it may be the case that nautilus is grabbing the sound device, and the other apps are trying to start esd or something. this is a common cause for app startup time slowdowns. jacob -- C-x i .signature From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 11:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B8202DDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05773; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:53:28 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma005770; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:53:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00363; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:58 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma000361; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:37:57 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04009; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA01130; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:50 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:37:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello, Gregory. >> Hello here >> >> I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest >> libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, >> audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome >> apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from >> control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV >> in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from >> gnome-core 1.2.4): FK> Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. FK> # ./configure --disable-xim FK> # make Thank you for your answer. I have got a new hope :) Currently I am trying to recompile all the gnome on solaris 7 (then will try to run what I get on solaris 8) so I will try your suggestion if I fail. Just out of curiosity, what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? -- Gregory From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 12:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (mgate10.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.157]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EB22DCB9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id CAA07596 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id CAA22027; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:45 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Funamoto Kazuhisa Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-NetHack-Code: NH 3.2.0U D [++ )++ P S+ D+ p- $ t- s- W E--- PS- PP+ G+ C+ I++ @W(wt) N-- b-- B- Y+ X- !So Sp++ !sb wb? User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) X-Face: JOl,T8(g~z&U-#td+1VvWOmUcOJ23za4U_M%6t^OrF{8NYMU1.9Xzy@/oq$E$$H!G|P^R9t k?D/%4KGJ:hF')gk?mzqrspzl$aow&{5b5f=-c/.6e8#`55C4*u1#{nz!":j)t8Zo)o_|d|(6AnUcJ ^Y;9VyFSYc@RC^DK[5(V Hello. I'm sorry for my poor english. > what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be > something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also # solves the problem. I don't know which is wrong. > to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? To tell the truth, there is an another solution, just run a xim application before running gtk+ applications. Then, you can enter non ascii in the widgets. But you have to prepare xim application such as skkinput or kinput2. --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 15 12:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C92BD3F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30078; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: George Farris Cc: Jens Finke , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > pain. You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and counterintuitive. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From liguo.song@vanderbilt.edu Thu Mar 15 13:36:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer4.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.214]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F832BC89 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (nlog.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.116.216]) by mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id MAA26673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:36:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:34:52 -0600 From: Liguo Song X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GnomeList Subject: Shortcut icons on desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear Gnomers, How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the desktop? I tried to grep -r CDROM /usr/*, but find nothing. :( Thanks for your help! Liguo (Leo) From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 13:37:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 789422C891 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06267; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:50:33 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma006264; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:50:11 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01701; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:55 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma001699; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:34:36 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09804; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA01375; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:32 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II (problem solved) References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 21:34:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello. FK> I'm sorry for my poor english. >> what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be >> something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able FK> Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. FK> When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. FK> # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also FK> # solves the problem. Yay! Your answer made me look in a right direction. I decided to try --disable-xim-inst before I disable xim completely, since by the stack trace it seems that installation of some king of a handler causes the problem and everything works fine now! And I can enter cyrillic too. Thank you :) -- Gregory From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 15:18:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC22CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:38 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4PYH4; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NG1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14de5H-0004He-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 To: Gnome General Mailing Subject: Re: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? Message-ID: <20010315151055.F2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome General Mailing References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500, Salvatore Innanone wrote: > Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with > 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be > found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and > select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when > creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) > and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere > either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things > more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody > Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), > and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am > also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be > tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? No idea, but just for reference, I'm running Debian 2.2, plus XFree 4.0.2 (which is available in unstable btw), and Ximian Gnome, and that doesn't happen to me. *shrug* Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From jwkim@MIT.EDU Thu Mar 15 15:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7552CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02669; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27826; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08758; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id PAA32495; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since > the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are > plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Thu Mar 15 16:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75E2BD08 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id BAAF8390C1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FF390C0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: compile error gnome-libs 1.2.12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, when i try to compile gnome-libs (using --enable-prefer-db1) i get the following error: make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o libgnome.la ../support/libgnomesupport.la -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o .libs/libgnome.so -lglib -lm -ldl -lz -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib gnome-dump.o: In function `main': gnome-dump.o(.text+0x43): undefined reference to `dbopen' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [gnome-dump-metadata] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 when i try to compile it without --prefer-enable-db1 i get somewhat the same error except for 'undefined referece to 'dbopen'', which is changed to 'undefined reference to '__db185_open''. i've installed both db1.85 and db2.7.7 with 1.85 support. anyone got a clue? hanne. From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 17:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD042CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:37 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4QF1W; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NL6; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:21 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14df6v-0004N4-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list Message-ID: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwkim@MIT.EDU on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the to-do list. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 22:44:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F492BDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010316034422.ZYLP27164.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:22 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200103160344.TAA03906@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: John Nelson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500, John Nelson wrote: > On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > > pain. > > You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT > from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had > one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find > the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and > counterintuitive. > Yup sure could. I'm also pretty disappointed that one can't even view rpm or tar.gz files which is something gmc has been able to do forever. Anyway I'm willing to be patient after all this is just a 1.0 release. I question whether it should be moved to the stable branch on ftp.gnome.org however. I really, really don't want the same thing to happen like last time GNOME was rushed out the door. What a lot of bad press:-( From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 00:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7562BEBE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA00331; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA21117; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA15542; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id AAA00246; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Okay, then I should go ahead and use jpilot instead. Do you know how I can remove gnome pilot? It automatically starts when gnome starts and I have no idea how to remove this... adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) > > I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day > specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the > to-do list. > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From rjp@mail.tele.dk Fri Mar 16 03:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB02BC87; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CF102AB5; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:18:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tele.dk (IDENT:rjp@port110.cvx1-hb.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.232.111]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64481; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rjp@mail.tele.dk) Message-ID: <3AB1CC35.3F7B50F7@mail.tele.dk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:17:57 +0100 From: "Rebecca J. Walter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 To: egger@suse.de Cc: jens@gnome.org, Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 References: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I get back from the US on the 6th. I could probably help out the 7-8th if i could get some help with my travel expenses. I may not be the best person though since I don't speak a word of German and I'm not a coder. but let me know. bex From mandreiana@rdsnet.ro Fri Mar 16 03:49:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from corporate.fx.ro (corporate.fx.ro [193.231.208.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBA2BC3E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fx.ro (Beavis.fx.ro [193.231.208.21]) by corporate.fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mnq04499; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:50 +0200 Received: from rdsnet.ro ([193.231.212.69]) by fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mn632197; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3AB1D36C.6B679720@rdsnet.ro> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:44 +0200 From: Marius Andreiana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Those are created by magicdev, afaik. You can remove magicdev from the default session. -- Marius Andreiana From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 05:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f33.hotmail.com [216.32.181.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B7F2BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:59:17 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Panrl Problem Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[25676B80:01C0AE08] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel option is picked. When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in the middle after restarting X. Any ideas? At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? TIA -Ants. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From darin@eazel.com Fri Mar 16 12:00:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A38012DC5E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:16 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Louis Garcia , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/15/01 11:46 PM, Louis Garcia at louisg00@bellsouth.net wrote: > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when using > nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel starts. When > nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second and then nautilus > redraws the background and places the icons on the desktop. It doesn't seem to > be anything wrong, it just doesn't look right. It's a bug we'd like to fix some day . -- Darin From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 17:17:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48C2BEBF for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA12810 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.85]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA28504 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25736 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id RAA01212; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... adlar From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Fri Mar 16 19:57:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A02BD19 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck.finkployd.com (gordon.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2DCgO003181 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:42:24 GMT Message-Id: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Subject: Session Manager Capplet From: cduck To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:00:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. thanks, -chris From ash@darkstar.gnome.org Fri Mar 16 23:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darkstar (host-216-78-86-34.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE072C9FE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2H4W9272769 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous gnome has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not get past zvt though due to an undefined reference: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' *** Error code 1 my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep on ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference to it is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing I've had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. thanks austin From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 05:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-137.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161C2BD21 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2HAfdg00382 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:38 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au>; from nhems@linuxfreemail.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yea, i got bit by that once the first time I ever compilied gnome; so that was one of the first things i double checked. austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From kabalak@gmx.net Sat Mar 17 06:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38D672C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26390 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from b8039.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.57) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14eEZG-0000LF-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010317120818.A1309@gmx.net> References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. It's in gnome-core now. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From alex80it@libero.it Sat Mar 17 06:15:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2732C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from libero.it (151.29.192.59) by smtp1.libero.it (5.5.022) id 3AB1F23300031A34 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:15:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB346C0.198F5928@libero.it> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:13:04 +0100 From: Alex Damiani X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Screensaver exits account! Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have a proble with my screensaver. I am running redHat Linux 7, and in Gnome, if I don't do anything for a few mins, the screensaver starts, but instead of showing me what I had chosen, it exits my account and asks to log in again. If I try to access the GNOME configuration tool, and I click on the "Screensaver" icon on the left hand side, it still exits my account without letting me change the settings. Could you tell me what's wrong, and, most of all, how to fix it? Is there a place I can go to look for a configuration file for the screensaver, that I can reset, or something? thanks in advance, Alex From ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl Sat Mar 17 07:37:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E532C934 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1055 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:35:47 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Slooten X-Sender: To: Adlar Kim Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. there... gone ;-) I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) Ralph On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > adlar > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz From federico@ximian.com Sat Mar 17 10:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [148.223.152.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0D2D2AB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07903; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Message-Id: <200103170249.UAA07903@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-memfrob: Frobnicate N bytes of S. To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Liguo Song writes: > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Bring up the context menu for the icons and select "Delete". Federico From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sat Mar 17 11:16:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3EF2DBF5 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24411; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29624; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id LAA02483; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Ralph Slooten Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... adlar On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > From jlwallen@home.com Sat Mar 17 11:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585AB2CB43 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com ([24.10.87.23]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010317164828.ONPK20878.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com> for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:48:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jack Wallen X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome 1.4 not starting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm -q gnome-core i'm getting: gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? -- \||/ J A C K 00 Not an even field to be on > Feels like standing still - for eons and eons W A L L E N From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sat Mar 17 12:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCB2DF60 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id CABBB38AA0; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBA38A9F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, when starting gnome i get this: /convert: No such file or directory gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. and then a whole load of these messages, each with another image. anyone got an idea what the problem can be? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sat Mar 17 12:58:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9E32BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11184; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24732; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Message-ID: <3AB3A560.8AE73E49@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:56:48 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wallen Cc: gnome list Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 not starting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-core-1.3.0 is as far as I know the latest version, and that included in GNOME 1.4beta2 (well, it's the one I have anyway). Upon the final release I assume the version number will be changed to 1.4.0. Jack Wallen wrote: > i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is > starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm > -q gnome-core i'm getting: > > gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 > > how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? From jbrownin@runbox.com Sat Mar 17 13:37:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5162BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-16-239.kems.net ([168.187.16.239]) by pluto.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14eLZB-0002iv-00; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:36:42 +0100 Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? From: Jeff Browning To: Adlar Kim Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 17 Mar 2001 21:39:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you're using an RPM based distrib, as root, type in rpm -e gnome-pilot to remove the package. Jeff On 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I > thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... > > adlar > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > > there... gone ;-) > > > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > > > Ralph > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > > > adlar > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From drifter@outerlounge.de Sat Mar 17 13:58:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-140.gwdg.de (RAS23-140.gwdg.de [134.76.23.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B912BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HIveg20830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 From: Jens Stroebel To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: Jens Stroebel , gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: ; from noodle@pigforce.warande.net on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100, Hanne wrote: > hi, hiya, > when starting gnome i get this: > /convert: No such file or directory this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... wrong. Quite a few things use it. HTH, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 23:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-85-186.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.85.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D2BE08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HNqNX19799 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317185222.A19779@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Friday 16 March, Austin hall gripes: > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs > but the building process will not get past zvt... On examination of gnome-libs-1.2.9/Makefile i find this: ZVT_LIBS = -lzvt -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm is this correct? is there a more gnome-inclined individual then myself who can tell me if i am missing any kind of library. thanks austin From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Sun Mar 18 00:26:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15A2BE08 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA17217 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3AB4464A.FDC16F4D@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:22 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ralph Slooten wrote: > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... Actually, the developer's name begins with a J, and that's where it gets it's name. It's in the docs. > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 02:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498802DC73 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust119.tnt13.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.120.119]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 4CF2428AA for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Keyboard question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel menu? P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 04:50:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA9AC2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6027 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p75.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:48:28 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: gnome-ist Subject: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 2503 Lines: 51 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I try to compile gnome-vfs-1.0.0, but the compilation doesn't succeed. It stops at: make[3]: Entering directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c rm -f .libs/http-method.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o libs/http-method.lo http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Do I miss a paricular lib? Thanks. Best regards, Klaus From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 06:11:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C72BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust87.tnt30.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.154.87]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 1003B2887 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:15:38 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bitmap format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot (file type not resolution) THNX in advance for any help... From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 18 06:18:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB892BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14807 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Received: from 213-21-43-234.surf-callino.de (213.21.43.234) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 In-Reply-To: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > libs/http-method.lo > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without > a cast > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. Regards, Jens From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:34:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBA2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICYqx06764 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181234.f2ICYqx06764@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Evolution and the Pilot Connect Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I thought that after you install Ximian Gnome and Evolution that options would appear in the Gnome config tool so that you could hook link the two during a hot sync, or am I missing something somewhere? Thanks Sean From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157B32BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICdax10614 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181239.f2ICdax10614@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pilot and Calendar Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When syncing a pilot with the Gnome desktop, how do I get my appointments to appear in the default calendar? I'm not sure what file to open, though I have looked and when doing a sync it does open the calendar, but no appointments appear. The address info all appears fine in the Gnome Card file app. I'm running Ximian Gnome on RH 7.0 with all the latest updates through the "Red Carpet Installer". Thanks Sean From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sun Mar 18 07:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50212BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id 1D92338A87; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767C38567 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:29 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 In-Reply-To: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Jens Stroebel wrote: > > when starting gnome i get this: > > /convert: No such file or directory > > this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... > same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the > space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... > wrong. Quite a few things use it. thanks, i installed Imagemagick, and now this convert error is gone. which leaves me with: gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. anyone? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 10:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DC92BB31 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24013 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p88.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.88) by mail.gmx.net (mp024-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:39:35 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> References: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:18:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 48 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion But : $ gconf-config --version 1.0.0 $ gconf-config --libs -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Regards, Klaus On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > > libs/http-method.lo > > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer > without > > a cast > > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. > > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792C2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01165 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318163710.B1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 08:44:55AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 0844.55 +0100): > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel > menu? Go to Panel Global Config, and in Misc tab, enable the Bindings section. By clicking in the capture buttons you will only need to push the keys you want. As the rare symbol keys are normally set to Meta or another modifier, you will have to hit it plus a normal key (like "X" or "Z", similar to "Shift + Z", but "Symbol + Z", which will appear listed as "Meta + Z" or "Mod# + Z" when you use the capture option). > P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) Maybe you will have to play with xmodmap cmd to change config if the key is not detected, it should if you chose the right model when installing. Try xev and see if the key produces something. You will also need to use "xmodmap" if you want it to work as normal key instead as a modifier. But trust me, it is better as modifier, cos you can do all your window management with it (maximize, minizme, change desktop), instead of wasting it with a single task. Having it as Hyper (L and R) removes a lot of problems, not more "When I hit Alt + Mouse1 it moves the window instead of doing foo function of bar app, as manual describes". Note: I dunno why but my computer does not launch menu panel ("Hyper + X" here), I will wait for 1.4, maybe it is fixed there. It worked with Gnome 1.2.2, but not since I got the 1.2.4 core, it just flashes focus. I do not care much either, I just used it for the Log Out entry and a few more things. I also found that as I have Hyper_R and Hyper_L, the config tool has both, but does not allows to use both at the same time. Using a keycombo it gives Mod4 (plus the normal key), with both Hyper_R and Hyper_L, which is a lot nicer (I can use any hand, instead of being locked into usin only one side). GSR From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED02BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01137 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:15:38PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > (file type not resolution) Try "man xsetroot" for info. But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters would give you an image in root window placed as you want). GSR From olau@hardworking.dk Sun Mar 18 11:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B0542BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5876 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: from 30.ppp1-2.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.158) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IGdPn07109; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Pim Schellart's message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the > pannel menu? Does the "grab key" button in foot menu->settings->desktop->panel->misc. recognize the key? Else you have to tell X about it first. One way to do that is to put something like keycode 115 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R clear Mod4 add Mod4 = Hyper_L add Mod4 = Hyper_R keycode 117 = XF86Start in .Xmodmap and run xmodmap .Xmodmap (or restart X, however that isn't needed). This makes the Micros~2 flag keys work as modifier keys (like Meta) which you can use for, for instance, window manager bindings instead of Meta to avoid clashes between programs like Emacs and the global bindings - nowadays Sawfish even has an easy way to switch all bindings from the default (Meta, I think) modifier to Hyper. The last Windows key is bound to XF86Start which you can then bind with the "grab key" button to start the panel menu. If you really want all your Windows keys to act as menu shortcuts, try something like keycode 115 = XF86Start keycode 116 = XF86Start keycode 117 = XF86Start instead. There might be another, more descriptive key symbol than XF86Start - I wouldn't know since I don't use my extra key for a panel shortcut but rather the slash '/' since it is placed very unhandy in the Danish keyboard layout. All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 12:38:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BFD2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01517 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:39:25PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 1739.25 +0100): > All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - > check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. I have: ---8<--- Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" [...] LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control [...] XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc105)+es" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc105" XkbLayout "es" EndSection --->8--- And I use as .Xmodmap the following: ---8<--- ! Alt works as Alt and as Meta keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L ! Make the rare key work as Hyper clear mod4 keycode 115 = Hyper_L add mod4 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R add mod4 = Hyper_R ! The menu key works as compose keycode 117 = Multi_key --->8--- So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. GSR From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 15:35:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F332DC53 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:36:49 +0200 Subject: gnome 1.4 release schedule From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:36:16 +0200 Message-ID: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? Bye...... From hermanr@mailroom.com Sun Mar 18 16:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37D2BC57 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (p0771.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.8]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2IL6Iq00101 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:06:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:07:09 +0100 From: Herman Roozenbeek To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: launch feedback capplet in control-center 1.4.0? Message-ID: <20010318220709.A10106@bommelstein.wanadoo.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In the help file for control-center 1.4.0, I see an item concerning the "Launch Feedback" capplet. But I can't find it nowhere... What has happened to it? Herman From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 16:38:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B82C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:39:40 +0200 Subject: gnome file open dialog. From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day when gnome will be as easy and productive to use as kde is? I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there where it should be. From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sun Mar 18 16:48:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4330C2C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa20937; 18 Mar 2001 21:47 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24823; 18 Mar 2001 21:46 GMT Message-ID: <3AB52CE0.372B1D27@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:47:12 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome file open dialog. References: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Isn't the GNOME file dialog just the standard GTK+ one? GTK+ certainly needs a better dialog - a button for the ~ directory should be there at the very least, and I would definitely prefer something closer to what KDE2 has. One hopes GTK+ 2 has better dialogs planned, but it would be nice to see better ones added to GTK 1.2. Surely it's not too hard to replace the dialog with something nicer without breaking the interface? That's the point of using a fake OO architecture for the library in the first place isn't it? And if one can't be put in GTK+, perhaps one should be added to gnome-libs. Leon Chiver wrote: > I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, > HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day > when gnome will be as easy and productive to > use as kde is? > > I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there > where it should be. From jh0u@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:14:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f38.hotmail.com [216.32.181.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329C2BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Received: from 63.209.94.121 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.209.94.121] From: "ordinary user" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7BAD5F0:01C0AFF8] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an impossible situation?... Any help would be appreciated. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sun Mar 18 18:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3372BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2IN10H09212; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103182301.f2IN10H09212@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: Three stupid questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Pim Schellart Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) > > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle > but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window > manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the > graphics to look > good to :-) That's an enlightenment theme issue... ask on the enlightenment list (e-develop@enlightenment.org) The theme determines what the startup looks like, so it sounds like Blue Steel is missing something... --Ben > Thank you all in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 18:33:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769D72BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm14-a33.dial.sovam.com ([195.218.132.33]:1408 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:37 +0300 Received: (qmail 3817 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7476 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C20010317001205=2EA5344=40flame-in-night=2Etaurussoft=2Eorg?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=3E=3B_from_dmitry=40taurussoft=2Eorg_on_=F3=C2=D4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_17=2C_2001_at_00:12:05_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP localnet folder. From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 19:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAE32E1EE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12507; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > Hi All! > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): 1. add yourself to the mail group 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant for Evo to import it > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > useless for me :( I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some > differnt ways. Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you imply in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and I'm sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security wise but they are still options. > > Dmitry > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > process my IMAP localnet folder. Evolution handles IMAP fine... Jeff From subb3@attglobal.net Sun Mar 18 20:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caesar.lynix.com (cc885639-a.flushing1.mi.home.com [24.182.96.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BFC52DCE0 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4501 invoked by uid 1005); 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000 From: Subba Rao To: Gnome Users Subject: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports Message-ID: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Reply-To: Subba Rao Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different login session, the applets were using different ports. Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Subba Rao subb3@attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ From darin@eazel.com Sun Mar 18 21:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C92D3B7 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:00:58 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 From: Darin Adler To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: Gnome Users , Jens Finke Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: >>> -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o >>> libs/http-method.lo >>> http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': >>> http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >>> http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) >>> http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' >>> http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer >> without >>> a cast >>> http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 >>> make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' >>> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: >> Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. on 3/18/01 7:39 AM, Klaus Dahlke at klaus.dahlke@gmx.de wrote: > $ gconf-config --version > 1.0.0 > > $ gconf-config --libs > -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP > -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Perhaps you have two sets of the gconf headers. Maybe gconf is installed in two different prefixes. The error above are definitely an example of the gnome-vfs compile including headers from an old gconf. -- Darin From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 22:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA42BE8C for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts18-a257.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.6.3]:1565 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:19 +0300 Received: (qmail 4441 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 2001 03:39:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C984961259=2E10834=2E0=2Ecamel=40tazmanian-devil=2Ehelixcod?= =?KOI8-R?Q?e=2Ecom=3E=3B_from_fejj=40ximian=2Ecom_on_=F0=CE=C4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_19=2C_2001_at_03:20:58_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 62 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion îÁ đÎÄ, 19 íÁŇ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÎÁĐÉÓÁĚ: > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > Hi All! > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > mail? > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on /var/spool/mail > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) Fully agree with "not recommended" > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > for > Evo to import it So I'll have to dup my messages? > > > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only > Evo > > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > > useless for me :( > > I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. Because it's some more work, some more tuning? some more disk space. Balsa do it without tricks att all. > > > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by > some > > differnt ways. > > Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you > imply > in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and > I'm > sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security > wise > but they are still options. All proposed by you methods are SYSTEM methods. Is Evo itself able to deal with existing mboxes (in camel part not to use camel_movemail() )? Why I should make 'magic passes' when other programs don't require them? > > > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > > process my IMAP localnet folder. > > Evolution handles IMAP fine... > I'm not doubt about it, Evolution works fine and with mboxes but only purges them after itself ;) I've liked Evo look and feel but until it uses camel_movemail() by default (more clear without alternative) I don't want to use it. Dmitry From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 23:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACC62D1DE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28135; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:16:29 -0500 Message-Id: <984975390.15839.2.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > ˝Đ żÝÔ, 19 źĐŕ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÝĐßŘáĐŰ: > > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > > mail? > > > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail > Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on > /var/spool/mail Okay, I guess I misunderstood you. You're complaining that Evolution sucks all the mail out of /var/spool/mail/$USER by itself, even without the use of a movemail program. I thought you were complaining that Evolution had to use an external movemail program for you (because Evolution wasn't able to lock /var/spool/mail by itself). > > > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) > Fully agree with "not recommended" > > > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > > for > > Evo to import it > So I'll have to dup my messages? Currently, yes. However, we are working on a way so that you won't have to. Jeff From jens@se.linux.org Mon Mar 19 02:33:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from missfunny.se.linux.org (unknown [195.22.75.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5A2BAB1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jens@localhost) by missfunny.se.linux.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J7adC07367 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:38 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Hjalmarsson To: Subject: Sound and X from remote computers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am searching for information regarding the possibility to make GNOME send it's sound to a sound server on a remote machine (when someone on that remote machine logs into a server, with X). Since GNOME comes with esd, I was trying to get it to work remotely, but no luck yet. I made a very small patch (I am no developer, but I do know a tiny bit C) for Enlightenment, which actually worked (amazingly enough), but the same thing for GNOME seems to fail. The source (gnome-libs/-1.2.9/libgnome/gnome-sound.c) contains gnome_sound_connection = esd_open_sound (esound_hostname); which means that this should work, and I tried putting this line above esound_hostname = getenv("ESPEAKER"); Should this be enough? Is there a place where you actually can tell it to use the ESPEAKER variable (which is standard for the apps that come with esound)? Jens From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 08:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A282E17E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04049 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:04:37 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. From: G Annamalai Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello All, I have finally managed to configure my X windows. The X server is working fine now. But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. Virtual 1280 1024 I did this but it didn't help. Can anybody help me? Thanx in advance. Cheers, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 09:12:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428C2E14A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ox-0008Gt-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:51 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ow-00057l-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:50 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JDeZ201240; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:40:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "Suse-Linux-E" , "Gnome-List" Subject: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs etc and start again by hand. Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove Ive already done the rpms etc Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR thanks dids From jacob@ximian.com Mon Mar 19 09:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81702DD3C for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14f0jf-0003L8-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports From: jacob berkman To: Subba Rao Cc: Gnome Users In-Reply-To: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> References: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Message-Id: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000, Subba Rao wrote: > Hi, > > I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services > installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on > to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a > little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that > different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. > I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different > login session, the applets were using different ports. > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: ORBIIOPUSock=1 ORBIIOPIPv4=0 ORBIIOPIPv6=0 jacob -- C-x i .signature From j.parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 11:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk (prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.76.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33E62DDFC for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.85.11]) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14f2Tk-0002XX-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:25:56 +0000 Received: by endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:17:03 -0000 Message-ID: <5FE97DD96380D111821E00805F2720E901E5BA8C@endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk> From: John Parsons To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:16:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Scanner: exiscan *14f2Tk-0002XX-00*fEiZUcrbH9w* Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion One of my RedHat 6.2 server crahsed last Friday, and now I keep getting the following message in /var/log/messages: init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes I am not running gdm locally, but do need to provide X logon for terminal clients. Every five minutes I keep getting the following sort of message on the console: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (5366), but seems to have been murdered mysteriously. "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Can someone help me please, as I am not all that hot with all the X stuff. It was working fine before the reboot on Friday, now it doesn't work at all. Cheers John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ John Parsons Network & Servers Team Leader Surrey Satellite Technology Limited Email: J.Parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Phone: 01483 879278 Ext. 3634 Mobile: 07836 248733 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe010.worldonline.dk (fe010.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.195]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DD82D620 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2JIErB01428; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:14:53 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: Ole Laursen Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:14:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: G Annamalai's message of "19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530" Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. You probably have some lines in XF86Config like Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection [...] The mode lines tells X which resolutions it may use - you can switch between them with Ctrl + Alt + Keypad +/-. The largest resolution will be used as the size of the desktop so if you want a smaller one, simply delete the offending mode. I hope this helps? BTW, the first mode in the list will be used when you start up so unless you like small resolutions, put the largest one up in front as I have done with mine. You could also delete all modes except the one you actually use, but then you lose the sometimes useful ability to quickly "zoom" in by switching resolution with the C-A-+/- combinations. > I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar > question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the > "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. > > Virtual 1280 1024 Didn't know this one, maybe I'll try it one day - I sometimes need some extra space. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe050.worldonline.dk (fe050.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.206]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0A3B2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2734 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe050.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IMFU001056; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:15:30 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:15:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"'s message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as > Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of > keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 19 13:27:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (156-MAD2-X31.libre.retevision.es [62.83.131.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB7C2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01530 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010319192714.A1527@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:15:28PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 2315.28 +0100): > Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with > the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier > to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta > to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding > again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. Yep, it mapped Meta to Rare Symbol. I preffer to have matching hw and config (imagine that you define your keyboard in one place and it is used to config all the required items). If the user knows what is going, no problem at all. GSR From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 13:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D52BAAA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-00035v-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-0006Mc-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JIGSR02808 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:16:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids Reply-To: mail@diddyland.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 but when i try to i get this message 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) *** was found! I Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? thanks dids From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:18:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E52BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6xW020252 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:59:36 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:32 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 16:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1892CED9 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0005aH-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0001XD-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JLQvR05151; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:26:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "chris grierson" , Subject: RE: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:06:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks thats the kind of info im looking for ! regards dids > -----Original Message----- > From: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]On > Behalf Of chris grierson > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:22 PM > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to > remove > > > for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' > for the old version > > assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did > a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this > generally solves a lot of problems. > > otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see > what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. > > you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig > -f ' (assuming has all your library > paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and > running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file > > i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to > manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall > if that was the actual step that solved my problem... > > -chris > > (sorry if this is too basic to help...) > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 > dids wrote: > > > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > > > but when i try to i get this message > > > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > > *** was found! I > > > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and > remove them ??? > > > > thanks > > dids > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From roberto@susq.com Mon Mar 19 17:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from phl-fw-dmz.susq.com (phl-fw-dmz.susq.com [141.162.101.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927CE2CA84 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from trex-12.mds.susq.com by phl-fw-dmz.susq.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:41:33 UT Received: from claymore (claymore.dev.susq.com [141.162.1.43]) by trex.dev.susq.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05484 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: Roberto Moral To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs Message-Id: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Organization: Susquehanna Partners, GP. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. Thank you in advance. -- ============================================================================== == Roberto Moral Denche == == == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == == roberto@susq.com == to go away == == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == ============================================================================== == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == == strictly prohibited. == ============================================================================== From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 22:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F5F2BAF1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19150 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:08:14 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: G Annamalai Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:15:08 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Himanshu J. Gohel" writes: > Hi Anna > > On 19-Mar-01, you wrote: > > -=> But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > -=> an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > -=> all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. > > Is this something as trivial as your window manager presenting you with > virtual screens? Can you turn that option on in your window manager (you Enlightenment -----------------^ > didn't say which one you were using). Oh.. I posted this question here 'cos basically I couldn't tell whether it is gnome related or xfree86 related, but was subscribed to gnome list, only a few days ago. The question that I asked was there in the xfree86 faq (Q.D2). ( http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/#virtual ) I guess I should have read it first. I am sorry if this annoyed anyone. FWIW, I initially had in XF86Config file Section "Screen" ... Subsection "Display" ... Modes "800x600" "640x480" "1024x768" ... I changed the Modes line to Modes "800x600" "640x480" In 1024x768 mode my screen was flickering badly. So removed it, instead of keeping it somewhere in the "Modes". Also I removed the "Virtual" parameter. Now its all working fine. Thanks for all those who tried to help me out. I have one more question, though. Just to make sure I know whats happening. I have depth 8, 16 and 24 in my XF86Config file. Which depth is chosen by default? For me all the commands - "startx" "startx -- -bpp 16" "startx -- -bpp 24" seems to look the same. Well, I guess thats another XFree86 question! Maybe I'll try someother place. But then, if somebody can reply me personally (instead of on this list), I would be happy. Thanks and Regards, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Tue Mar 20 02:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B32CB77 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13718 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28251 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:59:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09932 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: 1.4 for download References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A40@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where can I find binaries or sources to download. I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. JRC -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Tue Mar 20 05:17:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF302BAF1 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF9317B3B; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (jeeves [129.241.56.14]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933917AC3; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havardw@localhost) by jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id f2KAHIl13744; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: jeeves.stud.ntnu.no: havardw owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_Wigtil?= To: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: 1.4 for download In-Reply-To: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jean-Raymond.Chauviere wrote: > Where can I find binaries or sources to download. > I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. Gnome 1.4 isn't out yet, but you can usually find release candidate 1 at a mirror near you at GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/. If that doesn't work, try http://ftp.acc.umu.se/Public/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ H=E5vard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrap=E9 un Fraggle! From lavasani@connect.org.uk Tue Mar 20 06:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea.connect.org.uk (gaea.connect.org.uk [195.188.160.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564292DE7F for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (lavasani@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk [138.253.127.164]) by gaea.connect.org.uk with ESMTP id f2KBODb14279 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:13 GMT From: "M. Lavasani" Received: (from lavasani@localhost) by quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (8.11.1/CONNECT-DTS-3.0D10) id f2KBOCb25691 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 GMT Message-Id: <200103201124.f2KBOCb25691@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Is this the right ordr ? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion looking at the page : http://www.gnome.org/start/installing/index.php3 There is a list of program that needed for Gnome desktop. Most of the program in the list are old (eg the latest stable version of gnome-libs is 1.2.13 but the list recommands gnome-libs-1.2.3 ). Is this for any special reason or just the page has not been updated ?? Any help appreciated. Thanks __Mehdi From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 07:48:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907EF2BA85; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fLYa-0005gE-05; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:12 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.68]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fLYO-1NtrEmC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:00 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00566; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:41 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 really is :) What I can come up with is: - Nautilus - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) - More documentation - Bugfixes ;) - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) - "Fifth Toe" applications package - reorganisation of gnome-utils - ... [gosh, I need help] Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! Thanks a lot. mawa -- schmooz, n.: Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. schmooz collector, n.: Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. From jdub@aphid.net Tue Mar 20 07:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.229]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208142CDC5; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax48-043.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.202.43]) by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2KCuol00705; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:56:52 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A2361D7A; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320235717.L24812@aphid.net> References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. Do mention the menu triangulation code when you bring up GTK+ 1.2.9, it is one of the most wonderful additions to GNOME 1.4. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 17:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48242BF5D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fUxW-0003hQ-02; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:34 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.211]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fUxR-0L7BqaC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA31270; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:31 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Weird Nautilus crash Message-ID: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi people, for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet it crashes everytime: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 #2 0x8070efa in main () I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the last time.) Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? mawa -- [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:01:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721E2C88B for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA29675 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210101.UAA29675@mail3.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:03:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/plain It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (mail5.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D352BD51 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA21014 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: control-center default urls From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:08:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/plain Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:20:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (mail4.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4471F2C852 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA26801 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:25:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:21:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/plain Ok guys last question, I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide? Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ok guys last question,

I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide?

Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12-- From ramiro@eazel.com Tue Mar 20 20:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784C2BD51; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (fw.fateware.com [64.121.110.146]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAIX7600.TPB; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AB8028E.AF5AD48@eazel.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:26 -0800 From: Ramiro Estrugo Organization: Eazel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com Subject: Re: Weird Nautilus crash References: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The best place to post this is nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com. I set the followup to there. This sounds like a serious problem and I would like to help you figure it out. Can you file a bug at http://bugzilla.eazel.com ? Also try to put as much information as possible in the bug report to help someone reproduce and debug the problem. You can also try hanging out in #nautilus on irc.gnome.org and one of the Nautilus hackers can help you debug the problem. -re Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi people, > > for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet > it crashes everytime: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; > > #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 > #2 0x8070efa in main () > > I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my > translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash > down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why > I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the > last time.) > > Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? > > mawa > -- > [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the > "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. > -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Tue Mar 20 21:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793B12BD08 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GV3KW24Q; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list Subject: Best gnome debugging/development environment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From alan.patterson@Nexan.com Wed Mar 21 03:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nx-mail.nexan.com (nx-mail.nexan.com [195.153.150.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B852BA85 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by nx-mail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:38 -0000 Message-ID: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: Alan Patterson To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gnome-terminal Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Embarrassingly simple question. gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? Cheers, Alan Patterson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" gnome-terminal

Embarrassingly simple question.
gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though
I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do.

Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ?

Cheers,
        Alan Patterson

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C-- From Catherine.Roult@idris.fr Wed Mar 21 05:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lumiere.idris.fr (lumiere.idris.fr [130.84.8.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32202DB69 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mira.idris.fr (root@mira.idris.fr [130.84.12.100]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA494101 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from idris.fr (linder@loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mira.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA72466 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:17 +0100 From: Catherine Roult X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Workspaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I use Gnome (I try...) with There are many things that I can't do. So, questions : I would like to use different workspaces to do specific works. 1) Is there a way to give a name to each workspace and to see this name in the "Desk Guide" in panel ? 2) Is there a way to make that a given application is automatically sent to a corresponding workspace ? If you define an application (named TOTO) with its icon and its attached command, I would like to say to it : "occupy, directly when launched, the workspace named "TOTO'S HOME". 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a click in the window properties such as "send this window to workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace and to see this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? Lot of question ? Isnt'it ? Thanks for responses ! C. Roult From gannam@india.dharma.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E82E0DE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14961; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:53:34 +0530 To: Alan Patterson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: G Annamalai Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:00:24 +0530 In-Reply-To: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Alan Patterson writes: > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Login shells would be reading the ~/.bash_profile file if it exists. Non-login shells read only ~/.bashrc. HIH. Cheers, anna -- ``A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams.'' - John Barrymore 1943 From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1D2E155 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13744 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13737; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16456; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:24:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08336; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB89035.5E2F2718@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:49 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Patterson Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The .profile files are read only once at login time. You are confusing with shell session file that are ex=E9cuted at each shell invocation ( interactive or in script) in .profile, define export ENV=3D$HOME/.kshrc and put in it what you want to execute at each invocation. under ksh, you can use the '-p' as in #!/bin/ksh -p if you don't want to read the $ENV file. read the manual for exact names JRC PS: for compatibility do ln -s .profile .bash_profile ln -s .kshrc .bashrc or the inverse ... -:) > Alan Patterson wrote: > = > Embarrassingly simple question. > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > = > Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? > = > Cheers, > Alan Patterson -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 06:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042942BC3E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LBWwf06830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux Message-ID: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr>; from fbellaiche@ntsys.fr on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: > Tommy_T wrote: > > > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > > Slackware > > version of Linux. Is it available? > > Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. > I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's > web site. > Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version > of Gnome. Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the latest stuff. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html Looking at that page, there's even tgz's too. Telsa From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D912E25B for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13966 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13958; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16842; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09776; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB891B6.3D9B8875@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catherine Roult Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Workspaces References: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Catherine Roult wrote: > = > 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a > = > click in the window properties such as "send this window to > = > workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window > = > to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me right click in title bar 'move to' under wmaker > = > 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace = yes under window maker and to see > = > this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? > = I never see that, even with --enable-gnome compiling window maker enlightenment that has it's own panel has this features with zoom effect on opened windows -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD8F2BEE0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCQZt07151 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Panrl Problem Message-ID: <20010321122635.K5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from anthonyg63@hotmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 or thereabouts, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. ... > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? It may be sawfish :) >From http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/problems.html Q: The menu panel (the narrow one at the top) is sitting in the middle of the screen when I start GNOME. A: This may be a sawfish-specific problem. If you are using sawfish, then open the control center and find the options for sawfish. Under Placement you will find a checkbox for Ignore program-specified window placements.. This needs to be unchecked. If this doesn't work, take the longer route provided by Robert Soros on gnome-list: " I ended up logging out and switching to console to edit my ~/sawfish/window-history file... which contained the line " ("panel (type . unframed) (position 0 . 23)) " Editing the file (with 0, 0 coordinates) during the gnome session then logging out was useless as it would just resave the file as upon exiting.. " Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:29:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EF2E315 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCXAB07232 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010321123310.L5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 or thereabouts, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. Most capplets are provided by the control-center package, which needs to be compiled before gnome-core. I don't see a session manager capplet, but I have a session-properties-capplet from that package. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:41:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7292CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCiuq07350 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 release schedule Message-ID: <20010321124455.N5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro>; from leonchiver@xnet.ro on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 or thereabouts, Leon Chiver wrote: > Hi guys, > > does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule > or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? There is a gnome-1.4-list mailing list listed at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list The latest info I see on dates in the archive is this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-1.4-list/2001-March/msg00010.html Since that's the latest, that's your best guide. The answer to your question seems to be "both" :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB122CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCkfj07403 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Message-ID: <20010321124641.O5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jh0u@hotmail.com on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 or thereabouts, ordinary user wrote: > hi, > > I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs > out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an > impossible situation?... This might be better directed to the ximian-hosted lists, but the answer as of a week ago was "potato and woody, fine. sid, um". It may have changed, of course. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D032BEA6 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCtYh07410 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Message-ID: <20010321125534.P5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome-List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from richard@diddyland.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 or thereabouts, dids wrote: > It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in > /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome No. It's down to prefixes. Tarballs default to a prefix of /usr/local/ as is proper for stuff locally compiled on a system. Package managers for different distros (and flavours of UNIX) default to different places. (SuSE goes for /opt.) This is explained in http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html (scattered about over several questions, I admit. Not the greatest organisation in the world in that section, sorry.) > whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs > etc and start again by hand. > Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove > Ive already done the rpms etc If it was all installed via rpms, then rpm -e should do the trick. If you have been adding stuff from tarballs, then I hope you kept the source trees. If so, cd into the relevant directories, and hope someone wrote the magic for "make uninstall" to work (that removes what make install created). > Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by > default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR Whilst running GNOME, try "printenv" to get a list of all your environment variables. "printenv | more" or "printenv | less" is probably useful here, as it can be a long list. I don't know enough about SuSE to know, but I would take a good look at the 'startx' shell script, wherever it is on your system, and particularly the section that deals with "startx gnome". It can take a fair bit of following through scripts to find which is doing or calling what. But at least with shell scripts you can just read through them. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:56:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14652E33F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LD0Dg07441 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs Message-ID: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com>; from roberto@susq.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I don't know whether "Sun ultrasparc 5" means "Solaris 2.6", because I am not a Sun/Solaris user myself. But if it does mean that, then see http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html and the question about "gnome-libs won't compile on Solaris 2.6. It fails with a complaint about Berkeley DB lacking DB 1.85 compatibility". If it doesn't mean that, then see Paul Barnfeather's wonderful wonderful "Building GNOME on Solaris" pages at ttp://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/ I have also seem some discussion about db versions on gnome-devel-list, but it was too hard for me. It will be in the archives for this month's stuff though if you want to look. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:07:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082F2E346 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDAPi07469 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: control-center default urls Message-ID: <20010321131025.S5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url > handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version > gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the > gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? For 1.4 the plan is yes, nautilus and its swanky "render html from the docbook on the fly" trick will be the default for new users clicking on ghelp, man, and info. gnome-help-browser will still be provided though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077542C992 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDBwf07474 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 Message-ID: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ok guys last question, > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > gnome-users-guide? Yes. It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. /me adds another to the todo list. Telsa From snickell@stanford.edu Fri Mar 16 06:41:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F82D48D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GBehY00753; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB1FBC0.552D1827@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:48 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louis Garcia Cc: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus References: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Louis Garcia wrote: > > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when > using nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel > starts. When nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second > and then nautilus redraws the background and places the icons on the > desktop. It doesn't seem to be anything wrong, it just doesn't look > right. > > Anyone have this? This is standard behavior. Non-optimal, looks trashy, but probably not harmful either... cheers, -Seth From egger@suse.de Thu Mar 15 17:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [213.95.15.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B5B2BD08; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B381E349; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:34:52 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:35:46 +0100 (CET) From: egger@suse.de Reply-To: egger@suse.de Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 To: jens@gnome.org Cc: Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar, Jens Finke wrote: >> If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome >> booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the > last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised > me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough > space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is > interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to > join us. I might find some time to demonstrate GIMP for a day if you'd like me to. -- Servus, Daniel From jomamanup@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 20:02:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web11115.mail.yahoo.com (web11115.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847BF2BB7E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.213.164.80] by web11115.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Sandrowicz Subject: GAL To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any suggestions? Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:13:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7FF2BD9F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDCrc11272; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:12:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:13:12 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Simon Budig Cc: Gimp-developer list , , , Subject: Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the > Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk > about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the > booth is too much for me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be > very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to > do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend > at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome > booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to join us. Regards, Jens From sie-mich-auch@gmx.de Fri Mar 16 08:47:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE82BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14duZp-000078-06; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:33 +0100 Received: from p3EE1D306.dip.t-dialin.net (320027360141-0001@[62.225.211.6]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14duZe-0g6PHEC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Panrl Problem From: Marcel Schuster To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:51:00 +0100 Message-Id: <984750661.699.0.camel@Homer.Simpson.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 320027360141-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 +0000, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. > > The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel > option is picked. > > When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in > the middle after restarting X. > > Any ideas? > > At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and > although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does > finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. > > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? > > TIA > > -Ants. Maybe it's sawfish?? If sawfish is your window manager, go to control center -> sawfish window manager -> placement and check that the option "ignore program-specified window placements" is turned off. If sawfish's not your wm, I have no clue Best regards Marcel From tomr@mothra.aceldama.com Fri Mar 16 13:16:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mothra.aceldama.com (mothra.aceldama.com [204.225.122.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971C42CDBF; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tomr@localhost) by mothra.aceldama.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03466; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 From: Tom Rathborne To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Reply-To: tomr@aceldama.com Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>; from Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100 X-URL: http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Simon; On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag > 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting > and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for > me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very > happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be > happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't think I can help with the planning much but I'm trying to come to LinuxTag again because I had so much fun last year. I would be happy to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Cheers, Tom -- -- Tom Rathborne tomr@aceldama.com http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ -- "Don't clap too loudly -- it's a very old world." -- The Player, -- in Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" From dmitry@taurussoft.org Fri Mar 16 22:45:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7002BAE9 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts16-a367.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.4.113]:1044 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:45:33 +0300 Received: (qmail 784 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5351 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Mar 2001 21:12:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:05 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP folder. From louisg00@bellsouth.net Fri Mar 16 17:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (mail2.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E427F2CABC for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-196-20.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.196.20]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA06437 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Default browser From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/plain How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open. Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open.

Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1-- From root@plan9.de Fri Mar 16 17:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout.plan9.de (islay.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.162.92]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840CB2D3A0; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cerebro ([10.0.0.1] helo=mail.plan9.de ident=schmorp) by mailout.plan9.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BP-0004jO-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:55 +0100 Received: from root by mail.plan9.de with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BM-00065z-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316235852.D6431@cerebro.laendle> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com>; from tomr@aceldama.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux version 2.2.18RAID (root@cerebro) (gcc version 2.95.2.1 19991024 (release)) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500, Tom Rathborne wrote: > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > > I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't I'll also come for sure and help where I can and I would even try to organize that if necessary, but I am a total idiot at these kind of things, so it's best NOT to think about letting me do that.... > to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Pleased to meet you again, Mr. Rathborne. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg@goof.com |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | From conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com Sun Mar 18 01:28:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C28E2BF0B for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2I6X1E12174; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:00 -0600 (CST) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Jonathan Gift Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15-Mar-01 Jonathan Gift wrote: > joschi@eds.org wrote: >> Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk >> frontend >> to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write >> such a >> simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome >> development. >> If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that >> would >> be appriciated. thanks! > > It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the > root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. > > root tail gmc can already do this: Select a file, right-click, select View, then choose File/Monitor File in the viewer window. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 18-Mar-01 Time: 00:31:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From cduck@u.washington.edu Mon Mar 19 14:14:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3482BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6tG024199 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:55:16 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:16 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319111716.63131e58.cduck@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> References: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: university of washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From bertsch.13@osu.edu Sat Mar 17 00:37:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from core.greenapple.com (unknown [198.144.72.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EE2D40C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt-006-00180.greenapple.com (IDENT:jonathan@pt-006-00180.greenapple.com [198.144.76.195]) by core.greenapple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27906 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Bertsch X-Sender: jonathan@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list Subject: session save problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. -- Jonathan Bertsch bertsch.13@osu.edu From mmoyles@immunochem.com Sat Mar 17 12:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.auracom.com (mail.auracom.com [216.126.204.211]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C32CDE7 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from idt.burnyeat [165.154.191.88] by mail.auracom.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A2A219670154; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:45:06 -0700 Received: from mike by idt.burnyeat with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14eKtv-000263-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 To: gnome-list Subject: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Reply_To: mmoyles@immunochem.com From: Michael Moyles Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the Ximian pages - Is it still around? Thanks - mike -- Michael Moyles mmoyles@immunochem.com http:/www.immunochem.com I.D.T. Ltd. 23 Burnyeat St. Tel (902) 895-3594 Truro, NS B2N 4P9 Fax (902) 896-7276 Can. From cduck@washington.edu Mon Mar 19 21:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21A42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante36.u.washington.edu (cduck@dante36.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.196]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2K2rfs20998; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (cduck@localhost) by dante36.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA14318; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: "'cduck' Chris Grierson" X-X-Sender: To: Roberto Moral Cc: Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion sleepycat software maintains berkely db, and apparently versions higher than 2.7.7 break all this 1.85 compat business. see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2000-October/msg00509.html not that i have a valid opinion, but why did they make a __db185_open in major 2? isn't one of the whole points of new majors to clear up incompatible API calls? why not use db_open in libdb.so.1 over some new db185_open in libdb.so.2 ? this is actually a question looking for answer. if someone knows, i'd love to hear -chris icq: 24826966 phone: 206.795.4998 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. > > I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode > > I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > ============================================================================== > == Roberto Moral Denche == == > == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== > == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == > == roberto@susq.com == to go away == > == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == > ============================================================================== > == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == > == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == > == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == > == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == > == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == > == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == > == strictly prohibited. == > ============================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca Mon Mar 19 22:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (flash.lakeheadu.ca [192.75.62.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137D42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (IDENT:root@lake1-75.lakeheadu.ca [216.211.1.75]) by flash.lakeheadu.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2K2w0J12579 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:03:05 -0500 From: "John B. Stephens,II" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnorpm & rpm's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. however , i am getting error msgs. like: "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of rpm..." when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i spoke of. any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. From zellert@voicenet.com Wed Mar 21 09:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from unix01.voicenet.com (unix01.voicenet.com [209.71.48.250]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9846F2BAB4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 6987); 21 Mar 2001 14:50:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Terrence W. Zellers" X-Sender: zellert@unix01 To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode Sigh. I just went through this exercise on my laptop. After I checked that sleepycat was up to date with the compatability option I still got that. I then buggered the configure script to dummy out the db185 tests. Then you have to check the Makefiles and make sure that -ldb is in all the library lists. Once the lib is installed, to get the rest of gnome to compile (link actually) you have to edit gnome-config (the executable, wherever it gets put, as I configure with --prefix=/usr it was in /usr/bin) you go to the libs section and add -ldb -- I basically inserted it after wherever I found an "-ldl". Another heads up is that you will need a recent "popt" package (not a gnome package) to get GConf to compile. I'm tempted to put up a page explaining these steps but in reality that pretty much covers the low-lights. -- TWZ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Copyright 2001 by Terrence W. Zellers. All rights explicitly reserved. | | email: terrence.w.zellers@pobox.com www.voicenet.com/~zellert/pub.key | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A means of adding pith or humor to email: patent pending | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snickell@stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 08:53:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.116]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78F72BEE6; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2LDrVv15402; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB8B25D.A5FD3AEB@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:33 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Also: bonobo - component model oaf - activation framework medusa - indexed search framework & daemon Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) > - "Fifth Toe" applications package > - reorganisation of gnome-utils > - ... [gosh, I need help] > > Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! > > Thanks a lot. > > mawa > -- > schmooz, n.: > Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. > schmooz collector, n.: > Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From tim@maths.tcd.ie Mon Mar 19 23:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8E72DFC1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lanczos.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 From: Timothy Murphy To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . I'm running the GNOME that came with RedHat-7.0 . The problems seem to arise equally with Enlightenment and Sawfish. Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From glynn.foster@ireland.sun.com Wed Mar 21 05:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D186E2DB69; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.7]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12194; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ireland.Sun.COM (plat [129.156.238.87]) by ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA05273; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <3AB884F3.1ECC64C4@ireland.Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 +0000 From: Glynn Foster Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) Of course there is the new multi-session hack for gsm ;) See ya, Glynn ;) From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 10:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.245]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCD2D3B0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LFeQW07421; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:30 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681713C4C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:01 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4B3010B6; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Michael Moyles Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010322023916.A464@aphid.net> References: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat>; from mmoyles@immunochem.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 01:54:03PM -0400 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the > Ximian pages - Is it still around? Ximian has little to do with Galeon... Have a look at: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. From veillard@redhat.com Wed Mar 21 10:44:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B032C7FE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12278; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: "John B. Stephens,II" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. a hint at least: issue #1 of rpmfind FAQ http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/faq.html Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Wed Mar 21 11:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barnabe.net (barnabe.net [216.121.96.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719152CDF9 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.endymion.com (www.chalonsursaone.com [216.121.146.240]) by barnabe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28822; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:29:47 -0800 Message-Id: <200103211629.IAA28822@barnabe.net> To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Subject: Re: GAL Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:29:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? AFAIK, libxml 2.x and 1.x was in conflict, but since libxml 2.x is named libxml2, it's OK. You should first install libxml 1.8.? (to replace old libxml 2) and then libxml2 ; you may have to get new releases of apps using libxml2, but you'll be OK for future. p_ From steve@kazbek.ispras.ru Wed Mar 21 11:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stern.sovam.com (stern.sovam.com [194.67.2.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6032D41A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [194.67.37.200]) by stern.sovam.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12131 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:09:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2LG6Rb09835 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid TAA26876; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host kazbek claimed to be kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (pegas [194.186.94.143]) by kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13338 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07853; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:18 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru: steve set sender to steve@kazbek.ispras.ru using -f To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: where is 'db2html' From: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? Thanks. -- Alexander Koptelov Institute for System Programming, Russian Academy of Sciences e-mail: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru icq: 36208499 From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499D2BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LG9Ir26605; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:09:18 GMT Subject: Re: Default browser From: Mike Newman To: Louis Garcia Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> References: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:09:17 +0000 Message-Id: <985190957.18855.1.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500, Louis Garcia wrote: > How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I > click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking > an email I want evolution to open. > > Thank In the control centre under URL Handlers, you can set the program which GNOME uses to launch URLs beginning with the http:/ method. I think you'd need to set it as /path/to/galeon %s Unfortunately, Evolution can't be used in this way yet, mainly because the compose window depends heavily on an Evolution shell being running. People are working on this however. Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:14:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17222BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LFxi723425; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:59:44 GMT Subject: Re: GAL From: Mike Newman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:59:43 +0000 Message-Id: <985190384.18857.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? I understand that recent versions of libxml2 can happily co-exist with 1.8.11 (the most recent 1.x, and the one likely needed by gal). Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:28:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294862BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12544; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:41:41 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012541; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:41:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06444; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:37 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006440; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:25:22 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29413 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03052; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:15 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. -- Gregory From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 21 11:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778F2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14flTA-0002Nh-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Subject: Re: GAL From: jacob berkman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985192100.8079.1.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. you shouldn't be using libxml 2.x in gnome applications yet. jacob -- C-x i .signature From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 21 11:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858E2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.214]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21126; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? From: Bart Kuik To: Gregory "A." Shimansky Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:40:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300, Gregory A. Shimansky wrote: > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of these locations : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources But didn't the configure-script complain about that? Bart From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Wed Mar 21 11:56:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BAFE2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 745 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from du11024.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.11.24]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2LGrS307156 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: >> Tommy_T wrote: >> > >> > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the >> > Slackware >> > version of Linux. Is it available? >> >> Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. >> I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's >> web site. >> Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version >> of Gnome. > > Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my archived sources). Here's my compile sequence: Installed prerequisite libraries: (--prefix=/usr) audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.9 imlib-1.9.9 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gtk-engines-0.12 ORBit-0.5.7 popt-1.6-4 (from RedHat RPM, prerequisite for OAF etc.) Installed GNOME base libraries: (--prefix=/usr) gnomelibs-1.2.13 libgtop-1.0.12 libxml-1.8.11 libghttp-1.0.9 glibwww-0.2 (pre-requisite for gtkhtml) Installed Bonobo & its prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) gal-0.5 libunicode-0.4.gnome oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 gnome-vfs-1.0 gnome-print-0.27 bonobo-0.37 Installed gnome-db (prerequisite for libglade) (--prefix=/usr) libdgda-0.2.3 gnome-db-0.2.3 (--disable-bonobotest) [bonobo test failed, but gnome-db is looking for >=0.29 and there have been multiple API changes since 0.29] Installed GNOME base libraries w/ Bonobo dependencies: (--prefix=/usr) libglade-0.16 gtkhtml-0.8.3 Installed GNOME core: (--prefix=/usr) control-center-1.4.0 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 Installed nautilus prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) [openssl-0.9.6 (ammonite prerequisite) already installed] ammonite-1.0.0 medusa-0.5.0 mozilla-0.8 (binary built on Slackware) scrollkeeper-0.1.4 (--localstatedir=/var) At this point, I postponed Nautilus and worked on some other items. Installed pan-0.9.5 (--prefix=/usr) [now that gnome core is complete] FWIW, I generally used the command: nice ./configure --prefix=/usr && nice make && sudo ~/s/checkinstall My copy of checkinstall is heavily modified from the version generally available, but basically it does a 'make install', copying some standard doc files ala Patrick's practice, and creates a Slackware package (mostly so that I can scan for files in /var/adm/packages). In short, it's *very* doable. There are a few packages that can safely be compiled 'side by side', but most should be done singly in the order listed. HTH > If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian > installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the > latest stuff. Now *THERE'S* a scary thought! ;-) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! A computer does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:58:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 311802BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA12665; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:11:19 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012662; Wed, 21 Mar 01 20:11:06 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06818; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:55:27 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006815; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:54:59 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01120; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03503; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:54 +0300 (MSK) To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? References: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:54:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "BK" == Bart Kuik writes: BK> GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of BK> these locations : BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources Thank you, I found both in unstable directory. Gnome ftp.gnome.org doesn't let me in so I used ftp.yggdrasil.com mirror. I just thought that since I got gnome-vfs from stable directory it shouldn't rely on anything I can't get from a stable directory... Maybe I am wrong. BK> But didn't the configure-script complain about that? It complained about gconf, said nothing about oaf. The gconf error wasn't critical too so configure script didn't stop and I assumed that I can build gnome-vfs without gconf and oaf. It looked like this: .... checking for gconf-config... no checking for GCONF - version >= 0.9... no *** The gconf-config script installed by GCONF could not be found *** If GCONF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GCONF_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gconf-config. checking for t_accept in -lnsl... yes checking for socket in -lsocket... yes ... -- Gregory From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Wed Mar 21 12:16:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464602BABF for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86026; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> To: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' In-reply-to: Your message of "21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300." Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From robin.cull@pace.co.uk Wed Mar 21 12:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from exchange1.cam.pace.co.uk (host-131-80.pace.co.uk [136.170.131.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD742BEE4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchange1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:17 -0000 Message-ID: <1402C4C025C4D311B50D00508B8B74E27E446B@exchange1> From: Robin Cull To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Missing autoconf macros (or something) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to get my configure.in and makefile.am files for a package to compile under GNOME right using the example in the Havoc Pennington GTK+/GNOME Application Development book. When I run my autoconf.sh I get moaned at by automake and configure. I get these messages: Automake: Makefile.am : variable GNOMEUI_LIBS not defined Makefile.am : variable GNOME_LIBDIR not defined configure: ./configure: GNOME_INIT: command not found ./configure: GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS: command not found When I run make I (obviously) get missing headers and linkage problems. I am using a fresh Mandrake 7.2 installation. I have got the gnome-*-devel, gtk+-*-devel and glib-*-devel packages installed. I think I'm just missing the macros but I'm not sure. Could anyone help me out? If I have hit the wrong list, please forgive me and point me in the right place. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- Robin "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to seek permission." - Rear Admiral Dr. Grace Hopper From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 21 13:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1DA2BEF2 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26656 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from a2e5d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.6.46.93) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fnjM-0001OB-00 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010321195312.A5340@gmx.net> References: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com>; from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500, jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: > > >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? > > % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html > stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 Or in debian'sh: apt-get install cygnus-stylesheets All deps are included .-) -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim `-Filemanager / VFU From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 21 14:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F472BCB5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id UAA12256 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:10:38 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdAZyZ4I; Wed Mar 21 20:10:31 2001 Message-ID: <3AB8F8B0.94428D82@ntsys.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:36 +0100 From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > > > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. > >FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by >compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep >things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts >the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday >morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my >archived sources). > [snips] I've just compiled Gnome 1.4.0rc1 from sources on a Slackware 7.0 based box. As far as I've tested, it works perfectly, including Nautilus. And evolution 0.9 too, BTW. Just make sure to use "--prefix=/usr" along with all "./configure". It should work on Slack 7.1 . Ximian's Red Carpet is another story. Getting it to run on a Slackware system won't be a piece of cake... It is also true that slackware users generaly get their stuff from sources (like I do, I must say) rather than packages (like people do on Debian for example). And so getting Red Carpet to run on Slackware distros is probably not a high priority. Fred. From mawarkus@t-online.de Wed Mar 21 15:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6122BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fpOh-00058Z-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:59 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.213.160]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fpOD-0DNcYKC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28155 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Vertigo? Message-ID: <20010321211433.A28152@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. There is, however, no 'vertigo' CVS module. Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of Vertigo code and/or fill me in on details on what exactly this will change? I suppose it'll do everything the old panel does; it will replace the special applet interface with a generalised Bonobo one (controls?), however, and use an adapter control for backward compatibility. What else is there to be said? Thanks, ma"papers need a-writin'"wa -- So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine? I don't think so. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From jacob@trna.ximian.com Wed Mar 21 15:56:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA7F2BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ximian.com (ralph.ximian.com [141.154.95.105]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09540; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:55:54 -0500 From: jacob berkman Message-Id: <200103212055.PAA09540@trna.ximian.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:56 -0000 To: "Matthias Warkus" , Subject: RE: Vertigo? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_unique-boundary-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ------=_unique-boundary-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ----Original Message----- >From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) >in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the >next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose >there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. No, it is pretty much just a code name so far. jacob ------=_unique-boundary-1-- From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 21 17:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3172BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMGQa28155; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103212216.f2LMGQa28155@demai05.mw.mediaone.net> Subject: Red-Carpet + MDK 7.2: Thanks! From: Sean Middleditch To: beta@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:18:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey, I just saw the new Mandrake 7.2 channel on Red-Carpet! Thanks! This is really cool now, I can finally get rid of MandrakeUpdate, and do all my updating from a central program! Hehe! New software and paint fumes mix really well! Not to sound greedy (and not imply that I'm *not*), but when will Evolution Snapshots and Gnome Beta be available? I'm finding myself messing with these a lot. ^,^ Thanks again! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A9A82BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa09194; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14449 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Programer's list? References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so many questions as such on this list. Thanks, DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248D62DE7E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa11732; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15430 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB912B7.9D8B16B6@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:39 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse grab/ungrab problem References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, This happens even in the gnome-canvas test example. If I double click rapidly on a widget, the grab/ungrab sequence seems to go awry. I mean, the mouse cursor does not change back to regular pointer, it remains as a crosshair. Similarly, the application never releases focus of itself. Help? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 17:36:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.232]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE6B2DE93 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMPPo07647; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:25 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABE33C4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2BA6214C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: "David J. Topper" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Programer's list? Message-ID: <20010322092526.F464@aphid.net> References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu>; from topper@virginia.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:44:08PM -0500 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming > issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so > many questions as such on this list. gnome-devel-list... Click the mailing lists link on the front page of gnome.org. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From olau@hardworking.dk Wed Mar 21 17:46:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fetest.worldonline.dk (fetest.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC972CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19146 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: from 61.ppp1-4.hob.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.85.189) by fetest.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LLvQF01520; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:57:26 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> From: Ole Laursen Date: 21 Mar 2001 22:57:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: "James W. Haefner"'s message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? I think this calls for personal opinions, so here you have mine: Emacs. It isn't really Gnome-enabled, though someone (Martin Baulig, I think) was working on it last year - it was a very exciting project, I wonder what happened to it? - but still Emacs is a much better editor than any other integrated thing I've seen. And since you usually spend 95% of the time editing code, it isn't worth sacrificing the editor just because of a more gooey build/debug system. IMHO. If you just want a GUI-enabled debugger, I think DDD is an option, though I've never tried it. > At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? Don't know kdg, but it can't be better than Emacs. :-) -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 22:49:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B12CE45 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA470775 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Gnome confused about window managers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, everything works. Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not running, even when it is. Thanks Daniel From palic@billgotchy.de Thu Mar 22 03:06:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85F2BAF1 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06v-0006z5-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:21 +0100 Received: from dialer200.kel.de.core.tng.de ([213.178.65.200] helo=localhost) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06q-00037F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:16 +0100 Received: from palic by localhost with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14fzzd-0000N4-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: 1.4 beta and nautilus Message-ID: <20010322085849.D1117@billgotchy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Internet: http://www.billgotchy.de pgp2-key: http://www.billgotchy.de/bin/m.asc Fingerprint: EE C8 16 82 B6 BE AE 36 24 41 43 8D BE BC 1C FF Key-ID: 01119ED1 OS: Linux Debian Woody Private-Debian-Site: http://www.linux-debian.de From: Jan-Hendrik Palic Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gnome- users... I have a problem wth gnome and nautilus. Ich have an actuell woody, updated last monday. When I want to install nautilus, I got this: gromitt:~# apt-get install nautilus Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus: Depends: gconf (>=3D 0.50) but it is not installable Depends: libgconf11 (>=3D 0.50) but it is not going to be install= ed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is= to be installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is to be= installed Depends: libgnome-vfs0 (>=3D 0.6.2) but it is not going to be ins= talled Depends: libmedusa0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libnautilus0 (>=3D 0.8.2) but it is not going to be inst= alled Depends: liboaf0 (>=3D 0.6.4) but 0.6.3-0.ximian.2 is to be insta= lled Depends: oaf (>=3D 0.6.4) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Whats going wrong? It seems, that nautilus depends on gnome-libs, which aren't accessable... How can I fix this...? thnx for your help! Jan --=20 One time, you all will be emulated by linux! ---- Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "palic@billgotchy.de" --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBOrmwuIXXtskBEZ7RAQEfUwf+MabAgE8psUbyDToOrbBgnNlQkdeuprVW AV97nlLTjcXSERNgMPzfWtHA3Pks2hHLQ7Jqx54/AaQDWD2FR5r3s0VWP+FSeRVv 5LzvdGBYdDhvwTgBhLM9KbVjr9/aWOUvWtBlOTVZA4U4Ss0/OaOmSGmCD7idfHln 0jRPn6SEzJl2T/5tlhhNVvCe7e40ZRL6fjdLadzrtJ3ib+TpZxg/NajX1XDtnuoZ 5yqnjIvdO9RZ7pdf/5IMlWlfIQzRljuO0XN8JkkF0v11wwMnh9LgbHFnXNCPj1G3 rxhPkp52K+cp4tMZvAsKvpUQixy+F/qyy6EQzhYBDwVYKlw6XEJy5A== =wz+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5-- From dan@eazel.com Thu Mar 22 04:00:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from foodle.localdomain (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA422BB4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by foodle.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2M90xJ28164; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: foodle.localdomain: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Mueth X-Sender: dan@foodle.localdomain To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) The old help browser will still be usable but is deprecated in 1.4 and will go away some time in the future. The help stuff in Nautilus/hyperbola/gnome-db2html2/scrollkeeper is nothing to brag about right now from a user's perspective, but we have layed the groundwork for displaying DocBook/XML documentation and managing documentation metadata. In upcoming releases of Nautilus and ScrollKeeper we will see more user-visible improvements and new functionality such as indexing, metadata searches, user-configurability, access to remote documentation, conversion of document formats by the help browser, etc. Plus, by using ScrollKeeper and the OMF, we are building on a metadata handling system which appears to have the support of the LDP, KDE, and others which will give us compatibility with documents written by other projects in the future. Dan From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 04:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE022DEBA for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.200]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00078; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:08:15 +0100 Message-Id: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers From: Bart Kuik To: Daniel Russel Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 10:04:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > everything works. > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > running, even when it is. > Thanks > Daniel Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Bart From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:42:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109DC2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nwv03195; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:32 -0800 From: George To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598522BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAOP414202 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010322102425.D8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 or thereabouts, joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk > frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking > to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of > gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other > little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! The closest I can remember is logview which is now in gnome-utils. It's written in Objective C, I believe. You need either to be root to run it to monitor certain files, or to make those files world- viewable. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1A2E12D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAVPm14270 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010322103125.E8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay>; from sean.middleditch@iname.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 or thereabouts, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. One situation I've seen all GNOME apps start crawling from startx on is when the networking is broken on my laptop (like, typos in /etc/hosts or the PCMCIA card being in but the ethernet cable being improperly connected). Or not broken, but correct, but GNOME simply not knowing the difference between laptop with card in but no network present and either laptop with no card in or laptop with card in and network up and happy. And the immortal occasion when I used 'pump' (dhcp tool) on someone else's network, came home, forgot about it, and then GNOME whinged because I still had an IP and name server from somewhere in Australia :) I thought it was the network cable and was shaking it madly. > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I ...if it started after upgrading those, sounds likely. I dunno whether the above paragraph helps at all, though? Oh well, it might be useful for someone searching in archives. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:32:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AE2E12F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAZuT14301 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bertsch.13@osu.edu on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 or thereabouts, Jonathan Bertsch wrote: > Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back > in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing > the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going > to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm > not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to a bug in the applet itself. My particular bęte-noire is gweather: it is obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. I would bugzilla it. The "normal" clock applet is actually part of gnome-core, not gnome-applets. Just to confuse matters :) Telsa From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 22 05:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28AB2E116 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA04076; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:51:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Cc: Subject: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) In-Reply-To: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. > > * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the > same corner > * Property dialogs are now immediate effect > * Scrollable long menus > * Foobar has a tasklist menu > * Panels better follow theme > * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact > default for panels > * Per panel maximize avoidance setting > * Nicer applet dragging > * New menu to add launchers to panel > * Support urls in run dialog > * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your > menus are on nfs or something utterly slow > * Can set up a custom menu icon > * New easter eggs > * Lots of bugfixes > * Others I forgot Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. Jens From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:18:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57932BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBM2I14594 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:02 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:01 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's ("only packages with major number <= 3") Message-ID: <20010322112201.H8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is off-topic for gnome-list recently, but it occurs often enough to answer it. Summary: "get rpm-3.0.6, it works for rpms built with either rpm-3.0.x or rpm-4.0.x". On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 or thereabouts, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. This error message has to win a prize for "most cryptic", or "most confusing". rpm is telling you it can only deal with packages built by rpm-3.x.x. That 3 is the "major number" in a versioning scheme. Your rpm on RH6.0 will probably be rpm-3.0.something. There were (in order) rpm-3.0, rpm-3.0.1, rpm-3.0.2, rpm-3.0.3 and rpm-3.0.4. And life was happy. Then there was a big big change in rpm, so rpm-4.0.1 came out. rpm-4.0.x understands rpms built with rpm-3.0.x, but builds things slightly differently. So rpm-3.0.4 and lower has no clue what to do with packages built by rpm-4.0.x. Also, it was a bit hard to upgrade like that :) So that was a bit crap :) It got crazier: because XFree86 4.0 came out at the same time, rpms of it build with rpm-4.0 appeared on the net, people were downloading those, trying to install them with rpm-3.0.x, seeing that error message and thinking it applied to X, not rpm :) Mass confusion. So anyway, rpm-3.0.5 came out with the ability to read (and thus install, upgrade and erase) rpms built by rpm-4.0.x. rpm-3.0.6 came out after that and also has that ability. And that's what you need. So your answer is to download rpm-3.0.6 and install it. If gnorpm starts messing about, the command line syntax is: cd /name/of/directory/the/thing's/in su rpm -Uvh rpm-3.0.6-whatever.i386.rpm (control-D to stop being root when it's given you your prompt back) Then you have something that will deal with packages built with "rpm with a major version > 3". Oh, you might also want rpm-devel-3.0.6. I'm not sure. Upgrade them both at the same time (rpm -Uvh rpm-blahblah rpm-devel-blahblah all on one line). The reason I'm not suggesting upgrading straight to rpm-4.0.x is that part of the changes involved changes to the rpm database, and I recall there is some "correct" way to upgrade, and lots of not-so-correct ways. I simply waited for RH 7.0 and let the automatic upgrade do it for me :) As for gnorpm, you want at -least- version 0.95.2, or version 0.96. You'll find in bugzilla that the possible versions are 0.95.2, 0.96, and "prehistoric". That means "everything earlier". Everything earlier had a lot of things which are now fixed, and bug-reports on those will be met with "upgrade to a current version" at best. So get the absolute latest version you can. I'll note that people building rpms should really do it with 3.0.x to ensure the least pain for users. I'm told this is in guidelines somewhere (Mandrake has such, I believe, and RH also) and I -know- that the Linux Development Platform Specification (interim until LSB is done, at http://www.freestandards.org/ldps/1.1/ldps-1.1.html ) insists on this. I realise this is perhaps information overload, but I am in "get it into the archives" mode today. (Hence the addition to the subject line.) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FA2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBP4614623 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322112504.I8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie>; from tim@maths.tcd.ie on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 or thereabouts, Timothy Murphy wrote: > (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, > eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- > on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:27:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42CC2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBUeu14654 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from steve@kazbek.ispras.ru on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > Hello! > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html I need "db2html" to build some of the help files. What is it and where can I get it? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN539 I have DocBook correctly installed but when I build a package I get errors as the documentation sections get built. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN552 Reading it, I realise that had I tried, I could not have been more unclear in answering the first question. Accurate, non-distro-specific, up-to-date rewordings gratefully accepted. Send 'em to me, to gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, or to gnomefaq@gnu.org Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFD2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBfTN14762 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) Message-ID: <20010322114129.L8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 or thereabouts, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. long list snipped > Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? > Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. > Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we > could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. If anyone is really bored and has time to spare, a really helpful thing they could do is to go through (groan) all the ChangeLogs for packages and hunt for things like this and make a list of user-friendly explanations which can be used in the release announcement. Some ChangeLogs, like Pan's, are brilliant, and explain that "reassigned fooval to no longer return NULL when hitting an overflow exception in the sink plunger" actually means "now pan makes coffee for you -and- does the washing-up". Others, um, aren't :) I'm not sure where you'd send them, though. Perhaps someone would like to volunteer to collate them and feed them to the 1.4 release team in an orderly manner. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:44:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6CD2C87C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBmBv14820 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers Message-ID: <20010322114811.M8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 or thereabouts, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Actually, I've seen the control-center get window managers wrong on nearly every version of Gnome and every distro I've played with :( It's even in (guess :)) the FAQ, although with one of my crappier answers, which just says basically, "control-center is undergoing a rewrite and with luck the new version will improve on this". I haven't seen Gnome actually start the wrong window manager on a restart when I have changed and saved and quit. I have had no window manager often enough to be underwhelmed by this. The wretched thing also highlights one window manager as running and offers me the chance to run the configuration tool for a different window manager; and so on. I don't think it's distro-specific or Gnome version-specific. I've seen it on all versions of RH from 6.0 up, and on Debian woody (or maybe it was potato), and on several releases of Gnome, and with combinations of window managers ranging from just sawfish and twm to enlightenment, windowmaker, twm, and fvwm2. Telsa From flavio@conectiva.com.br Thu Mar 22 06:53:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from postfix.conectiva.com.br (perninha.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E080A2BDBB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from burns.conectiva (burns.conectiva [10.0.0.4]) by postfix.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 27C1316E81 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:58 -0300 (EST) Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (10.0.17.33) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from flavio by barney.distro.conectiva with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14g3e8-0003N9-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:52 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: db2html Message-ID: <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y6PvmTFIYclVmRST" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it,=20 can anyone help me? Thanks. --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjq555MACgkQiRDznl8DCoBPjQCcDrfdd6tTJXOd36ucrlg4RGdp bM8AoITO0gFSQFZ10PDFL5fxurGCCA0D =n4l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST-- From cedric@cpac.embrapa.br Thu Mar 22 08:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE332C934 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpac.embrapa.br (cedric@micro208.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.208]) by caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16827 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:47 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA0C9E.8020307@cpac.embrapa.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:30:54 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?= Lamalle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010105 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with png Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to make a compiled version of gnome 1.2, but I have problems with the display of png files. Here is a short description (without most of out of subject libs and ldconfig after each comp.) of what I've done : ... Compiled and installed libpng1.0.9 (I've tried with version 1.0.5 and 1.0.8 also) ... Compiled and installed glib-1.2.8 Compiled and installed gtk+-1.2.8 ... Compiled and installed imlib 1.9.8.1 (with gmodulized imlib) ... Compiled and installed gnome-libs 1.2.13 ... Compiled and installed gnome-common 1.2.1 Compiled and installed gdk_pixbuf 0.10.1 Compiled and installed gnome-control-center 1.2.2 Compiled and installed gnome-core-1.2.4 +applets, network, gmc 4.5.52, sawfish, etc... When I try to start a gnome-session (or gnome-terminal from fvwm), I got a message like that : error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/gnome/lib/libimlib-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct I then try to compile gnome-libs with --disable-imlibtest and gnome-session was launching, I had icons on the desktop, but not on the panel (only text). I'm using debian 2.2, what am I doing wrong ?? Thx in advance for help, Cédric. From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 08:58:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BFA2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.146]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13605 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:58:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). In my opinion that was a way better implementation, especcially for small screens or to call capplets from outside the control-panel, ie setting the background with rightclicking on the desktop. For every small change you'll get the whole panel now in stead of only the wanted capplet.... I didn't find an option (in ./configure or in gnomecc --help) to get the other implementation back. Does anyone know why this is and if it's coming back in a post-1.4 release? Bart From markforawhile@yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 09:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com (web13105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CC02CC8D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:51:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010322145156.63569.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.188.172.200] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20T.?=" Subject: Gnome Control Center To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, hope this is the right list for this query! I recently updated my Gnome installation using Helix, and now I'm having trouble with the "Control Center" configuration tool. Whichever of the sections on the left I click, the right hand panel stays completely blank. I'm guessing that the Control Center isn't in synch with some other part of Linux any longer. Control Center is Version 1.2.2 under RedHat 6.2. Does anyone know what's going on ? Any help would be appreciated, as this is driving me up the wall ! cheers, Mark. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From gannam@india.dharma.com Thu Mar 22 11:03:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829722CDBE for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gannam@localhost) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20266 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 (IST) From: Annamalai G To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: icon labels. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings to All. I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? TIA. Cheers, anna From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Thu Mar 22 11:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310B42D9AF for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37568; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103221614.LAA37568@ww2.tqstats.com> To: Flavio Bruno Leitner Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: db2html In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300." <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br>, Flavio Bruno Leitner writes : >gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it, >can anyone help me? Somebody just asked this a day or two ago. % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 11:50:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB82BC97 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14g88S-0006IP-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: jacob berkman To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> References: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <985279228.23772.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my > slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in > stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in > separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). i bumped the one for 1.4 to version 1.4 since some things changed, notably the removal of the session-properties capplet and the inclusion of the gnome-vfs mime types capplet. the old 1.3 tree will become 1.5.0 when it comes out... after getting some much needed work done on it. jacob -- C-x i .signature From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Thu Mar 22 12:36:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA485113 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010322092900.04500208@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:16 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Re: Gnome Confused about Window Managers In-Reply-To: <20010322103002.B041D2E140@mail.gnome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Daniel > >Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... > >Bart Good point. I am running 1.2 from Redhat 7. Just to add more detail, other users of my machine can use Sawfish and configure it without any problem. Also, I have tried deleting all the gnome files associated with my account that I could find (~/.gnome ~/.sawfish /tmp/drussel-orbit or something like that), but that made no difference for either problem. I can't just make myself a new account since the names and ids have to match with other local machines. Also, I have no problem with sawfish configuration on other machines which share a home directory with this one and have very similar setups, however the Enlightenment confusion may have started immediately following my first such login to another machine (which did not have enlightenment installed). Thanks. From drifter@outerlounge.de Thu Mar 22 14:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-221.gwdg.de (RAS23-221.gwdg.de [134.76.23.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881F32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2MIrsl09359 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lunalounge.outerlounge.de: nobody set sender to drifter@outerlounge.de using -f To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 (MET) From: the drifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5-cvs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before using it under gnome ? Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) its cemented for me .. > > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . > > How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching > grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and > paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows > does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? In addition to the general X-cut-and-paste-behaviour, there is some nice little applet called clipboard-applet. You can "put something into it" by marking and then pressing button on it; afterwards, if you want to use the last dropped text, it's one left-click and the paste, for previous "drops" it keeps a history accessible by right-clickin'. Nifty little thing that... greets, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.lunalounge.net From itp@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 14:09:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flux (unknown [141.154.95.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E5F2CC57 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from itp by flux with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14gARd-0000CT-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322140825.C531@flux> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000 From: Ian Peters Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > > I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position > but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to > a bug in the applet itself. My particular b?te-noire is gweather: it is > obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. Ahh, but when I was going to CMU this was *so* convenient -- Ian Peters "...it is 5 am and the sun has charred the other itp@gnu.org side of the earth and come back to us and painted itp@ximian.com the smoke over our heads an imperial violet..." From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 15:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0410C2BB40 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MKDp918158 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322201351.B18006@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net>; from drifter@outerlounge.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 or thereabouts, the drifter wrote: > Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > > > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > > hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) > cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: > Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before > using it under gnome ? Excellent question. I apologise, but I can't remember now :) It was a long time ago. I don't even start and stop X enough on this machine to remember whether the workspaces came up this time. (Apparently this X session has been running since the first week in February.) > Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my > gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save > session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. > Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool > and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) > its cemented for me .. I'll investigate this on the boxes I have here, which collectively run various distros with various versions of X, wmaker and GNOME. I do remember messing about with something similar because at one stage I had both wmaker and GNOME trying to do session-management and it all got very silly. Thanks for the tip. Telsa From kh_naba@yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 22:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138D2BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01028 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:21:59 +0530 Message-ID: <3ABACC08.917BA446@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:37:36 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <20010322103003.482A12E148@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > > > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? Try Anjuta C/C++ IDE. http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/. In addition to many other features, it has Gnome apps widzards, integrated debugger, project management and a very sweet editor. :-) -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------- From jverel@home.com Thu Mar 22 23:22:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (cv150607-a.norwlk1.ct.home.com [24.228.1.114]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A632BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from john@localhost) by CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MNNc301571 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com: john set sender to jverel@home.com using -f Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 +0000 From: "John P. Verel" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322232338.A1532@CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com> References: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 11:30:40AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 03/22/01, 11:30:40AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? stylesheets-1.54.13rh-5, on my machine. -- John P. Verel Norwalk, CT From vk_gnome@rediffmail.com Thu Mar 22 23:38:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailweb5.rediffmail.com (unknown [202.54.124.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6D82D3B6 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5056 invoked by uid 510); 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Date: 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (161.114.88.76) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? From: "Vasu Kulkarni V" Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain Content-Description: Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. with ./configure , make , and make install. presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. I am new to this. please give me more details. bye -Vasu Kulkarni. Bangalore(India). _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com From ash@hobbiton.org Fri Mar 23 01:19:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-141.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECC2DB61 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2N6MSF05642 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:27 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no more error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010323012227.A5597@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:41:38AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i figured out the problem. for those curious, there are what's called "ports" from the FreeBSD group. the ports are basically just fancy tarballs that contain patches which allow the tarballed source to compile and run accordingly under FreeBSD. "ports" exist for most of the popular applications and toolkits, etc. and can be located at http://www.freebsd.org/ports austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Fri Mar 23 05:34:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8812E46B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NAbOH21621 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? Message-ID: <20010323103724.A21462@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" References: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com>; from vk_gnome@rediffmail.com on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 or thereabouts, Vasu Kulkarni V wrote: > HI, > i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? > is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. > with ./configure , make , and make install. > presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. > I am new to this. please give me more details. If you mean you have only got gnome-core-1.4.0-tar.gz, then no, I don't think it is. I think it wants at least a new version of gnome-libs and probably of control-center, and those may want new versions of a great many other files. There's a FAQ on compiling GNOME, but its suggested order applies to GNOME 1.2. The details about "what do I do with a tarball?" and "what are prefixes and do I need them?" will be the same, though. Several suggested compile orders have been posted to the gnome-1.4 list as different betas have come out. FAQ's at http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/ gnome-1.4 archives are at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list Speaking from experience, attempting to compile the first beta of what will be GNOME 1.4 took me a day and then I gave up :) If you're new and are concerned about doing bad things to your computer, I strongly suggest that you wait for the final GNOME 1.4 release. RC1 is release candidate 1, which means that we are in theory very close to GNOME 1.4 proper coming out. (Barring disasters, the last date I saw was at the end of this month: gnome-1.4 list is where you'd find updates on that.) It will still be in tarballs initially, but I would put money (well, a penny or so) on a variety of rpms and debs showing up within a week of that, and they're -much- easier to deal with when you're new to things. Telsa From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 07:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve From Markus_Nickels@casa.es Fri Mar 23 07:20:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.casa.es (mail.casa.es [194.69.224.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1522DD95 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.casa.es(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256A18.00492139 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:18:46 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASA From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es To: gnome-list@gnome.org Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:15:16 +0100 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion From toralf@kscanners.com Fri Mar 23 07:33:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1232E4E4 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14gQiM-0000Wj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:45 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: (gdb) where #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () #7 0x80bff8b in main () #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of applets that continually update their display. Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? -- # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 XFree86-4.0.1-1 apmd-3.0final-18 XFree86 driver is "neomagic". - Toralf From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 08:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (www.fmco.com [199.85.124.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B8B2D04B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: id IAA09233; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:30 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B8@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/ -----Original Message----- From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es [mailto:Markus_Nickels@casa.es] Sent: 23 March 2001 12:15 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 23 09:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7A2BB71 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA20576 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:07:07 -0800 Message-Id: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:08:04 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem on my laptop and it's not the panel of gnome's fault. The apm system is probably affecting gnome. I own an IBM ThinkPad 760XD and had the same thing happen to me. I did some searching on google and found kernel level drivers to let linux handle correctly the apm system. Your Toshiba might have the same problem. Also, on my laptop, if I have a pcmcia card in the slot when suspending, the keyboard/mouse stop responding on wake. My workaround for this was to call "cardctl eject" in the suspend scripts for apmd-proxy. Hope this info helps. Good luck to you! Toralf Lund wrote: > I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or > something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: > > When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is > active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of > our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The > screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not > even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), > but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I > attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current > subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), > everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: > > (gdb) where > #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () > #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () > #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () > #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () > #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () > #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () > #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () > #7 0x80bff8b in main () > #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, > argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, > fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, > stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 > (gdb) > > However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only > reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding > panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I > guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing > sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something > to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of > applets that continually update their display. > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? > > -- > # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd > gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 > XFree86-4.0.1-1 > apmd-3.0final-18 > > XFree86 driver is "neomagic". > > - Toralf > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From robkra@gmx.net Fri Mar 23 15:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A6922C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15579 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2001 20:30:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:30:57 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Kraus To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Cant start GTK apps X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0005652802@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.186.142.108] Message-ID: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, X crashes and restarts after I start GTK apps on newly compiled XFree86-4.0.3. (KDE2 works fine; MDK 7.2): A little overview of my installation/problems: $ rpm -V gtk+ Unsatisfied dependencies for gtk+-1.2.8-6mdk: /sbin/ldconfig , libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libXi.so.6 but the libraries are there: # /sbin/ldconfig -v | grep libX ... libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.2 ... libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0 ... libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.4 the files libX11, libXi, libXext are in /usr/X11/lib/ e.g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so and I have made links to /usr/lib and /lib: # ls -l /usr/lib/libX11* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 19:16 /usr/lib/libX11.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 18:18 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* What else do I have to do to be able to start gnome apps? Thank you very much for your answer. robert -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From jg@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 23 15:35:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.pa-x.dec.com (unknown [204.123.2.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E152C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from src-mail.pa.dec.com (src-mail.pa.dec.com [16.4.16.35]) by mail2.pa-x.dec.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA04927; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by src-mail.pa.dec.com; id MAA12623; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Received: (from pachydrm@localhost) by pachyderm.pa.dec.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NKYmg193099; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client bombur.crl.dec.com, user jg) To: cmevoli@afsa.com Cc: Toralf Lund , GNOME mailing list In-Reply-To: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with behind its back. On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. Solution: Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, and move back to the X server at the end of resume. On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make this the default behavior is beyond me... But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage your hardware may have with power management). - Jim -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From drifter@outerlounge.de Fri Mar 23 17:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-235.gwdg.de (RAS23-235.gwdg.de [134.76.23.235]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A462BA99 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NLxYd30694 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 From: the drifter To: GNOME mailing list Subject: gdm-indirect-problem Message-ID: <20010323225934.A30653@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: the drifter , GNOME mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi ! While trying to deploy gdm in indirect-mode to get a look at the chooser, I got ############ error-message ############### gdm_xdmcp_decode: Could not create XDMCP buffer! ############ error-message ############### Can anybody enlighten me what this means (how it's caused) ? Thx in advance, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Fri Mar 23 20:18:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24922BAFB for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2O1IdH07499; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: Annamalai G Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Mar 2001 17:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > Greetings to All. > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. If that's not what you mean, please clarify. --Ben From landie@concentric.net Fri Mar 23 20:58:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AD2BB33 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA13303; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:45 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts005d39.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.236.243]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA21164; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:08 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: Robert Kraus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: quickq? Message-Id: <20010323201808.257b5f17.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> References: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when installing rc1 from source is there an order to follow From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 04:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CE22BB74 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23996; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:32:49 +0530 To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: icon labels. References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530 In-Reply-To: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ben FrantzDale writes: > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > Greetings to All. > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop background color. To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 distribution) and the enlightenment wm. Hope you could help. Thanks for the effort. Cheers, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 06:22:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9392BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm8B-0007lM-06; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:51 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.217.69]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm85-1PX3EeC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:23:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I have SUSE7.1 running and compiled the whole gnome.beta package after removing all SUSE created gnome. Gnome runs but there are some problems. Adding a laucher to panel as gnome-terminal or xterm works, but after restarting gnome they are lost. Lauching the background-properties-capplet with gnomecc never works, but if I first launch gnomcc and then background-properties-capplet via comand line the capplet works, Sound system doesn't seem to work. At startup gnome gives some warnings like that: SESSION_MANAGER=local/buero1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/756 SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - Succeeded GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108160 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1280 hbeg: 1424 hend: 1680 httl: 1688 vdsp: 960 vbeg: 960 vend: 970 vttl: 1019 flags: 0 Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0x81841B0) ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 598 (gsm_protocol_new): assertion `GNOME_CLIENT_CONNECTED (gnome_client)' failed. Sitzungsmanager konnte nicht kontaktiert werden Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GsmProtocol' ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 642 (gsm_protocol_get_current_session): assertion `protocol != NULL' failed. waiting for X server to shut down Has anyone an idea if this is typical at this state or what I did wrong during installation ? achim From landie@concentric.net Sat Mar 24 06:30:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335602BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id GAA20558; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:05 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts032d34.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.25.94]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id GAA29775; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:51:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Message-Id: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when trying source for RC1 is there a specific order to install them? -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sat Mar 24 07:05:00 EST 2001 From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 06:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BAC2DB53 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29215 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:26:18 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: startx file From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:32:56 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello all, This question is not related to gnome, but I thought I could clarify my doubt here itself. Please ignore this mail if not interested. In the startx file I see something like if [ "x$serverargs" = x ]; then serverargs="$1" else serverargs="$serverargs $1" fi I dont know why there is/was such a need. I feel that this if condition can just be replaced with serverargs="$serverargs $1" Am I right or did I overlook something? Also, one of the patterns in the while loop is (do refer to the startx file, if you have got the time and patience) /''*|\.*) Can anyone help me know why there are two single quotes there in that pattern? I am not saying its not required, but I dont know what its doing there. I apologize for asking such an off-topic question. But the problem is I am subscribed to so many mailing-lists and non of them are related to shell scripts and I am trying to avoid subscribing to new mailing lists. Hope you all would understand :-X Thanks for your time. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 07:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE72BDA8 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnX1-0004Yb-08; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:35 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.219.217]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnWy-2J2SJMC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> Cc: landie@concentric.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032413533700.02082@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Am Samstag, 24. März 2001 13:51 schrieben Sie: > when trying source for RC1 is there a > specific order to install them? I compiled in this order: glib-1.2.9 gtk+-1.2.9 audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 ORBit-0.5.7 libxml-1.8.11 oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 imlib-1.9.9 gnome-libs-1.2.13 libunicode-0.4 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gnome-print-0.27 libglade-0.16 gnome-vfs-1.0 gal-0.5 scrollkeeper-0.1.4 gtk-engines-0.12 libgtop-1.0.12 libghttp-1.0.9 gtop-1.0.13 xalf-0.7 rep-gtk-0.15 xml-i18n-tools-0.8.1 bonobo-0.37 bug-buddy-2.0 control-center-1.4.0 gtkhtml-0.8.2 gnome-guile-0.20pre2 ggv-1.0-beta1 ghex-1.2-beta1 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 gnome-audio-1.4.0 gnome-media-1.2.0 gnome-pim-1.3.2 gnome-python-1.4.0 gnome-user-docs-1.4.0 gnome-utils-1.4.0 medusa-0.5.0 ammonite-1.0.0 nautilus-1.0 gdm-2.2.0 sawfish-0.38 achim From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sat Mar 24 13:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E502D2DBD2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OIUqa26020 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Control Center - 1.3.90 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.24.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Message-Id: <985458780.17174.6.camel@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Um, I was wondering - shouldn't the theme selector be under the Look and Feel section of the Control Center, instead of Desktop? That would make a bit more sense. I am using 1.3.90 (from Eazel website), so this might already be changed in the 1.4 package, but I can't get most of those to compile (known errors, from what I've read, so I'm waiting for the next RC/full release). Just my $.02 -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sat Mar 24 16:31:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48F2BCB2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2OLVJH25036; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: G Annamalai Cc: Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530, G Annamalai wrote: > Ben FrantzDale writes: > > > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > > Greetings to All. > > > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. > > Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have > a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background > _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop > background color. > > To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 > distribution) and the enlightenment wm. > > Hope you could help. > > Thanks for the effort. Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent text on the desktop, but there is one that does. --Ben From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 24 19:26:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCA52BF73 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2P0PMM09387; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:25:22 GMT Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Mike Newman To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: G Annamalai , Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 25 Mar 2001 00:25:21 +0000 Message-Id: <985479922.5650.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels > on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, > but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to > Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version > of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent > text on the desktop, but there is one that does. Support for transparent icons and text labels goes back quite a way in gmc I think, but setting it up isn't obvious. Open a gmc window (such as "Home Directory"), select Settings->Preferences, and on the Desktop tab select "Use Shaped Text" Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 02:42:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952442BDD0 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:41:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:43:13 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list (maybe in a different gnome list?). It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory Thanks... From datazone@airmail.net Sun Mar 25 05:19:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from covert.iadfw.net (covert.black-ring.iadfw.net [209.196.123.142]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A6E2CA5C for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from scab.caprolite.org from [207.136.36.203] by covert.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with smtp for gnome-list@gnome.org sender: id ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) To: moparkix@bigfoot.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: datazone@airmail.net Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz X-Mailer: Gmail 0.7.0pre4 (http://gmail.linuxpower.org) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow and post it here. > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > Thanks... > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 25 08:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 887082BAAA for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29884 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Received: from r1251.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.23.235) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:52:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: , Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it should fix this issue. Jens On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 datazone@airmail.net wrote: > as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something > really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a > "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the > buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes > into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is > something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix > it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a > "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow > and post it here. > > > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > > > Thanks... From len@philpot.org Sun Mar 25 14:29:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFBE2BBDD for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010325192848.XNNQ24883.io@vulcan> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:28:48 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Items missing from gnome menu - How to fix? Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:30 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032513343000.01245@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've just apparently lost my session preferences, including several items in the system part of the gnome menu. The most important I'd like to restore are the Logout and Lock Screen choices, but even the Help choice is gone. The user stuff I know how, but not these. I'm able to add a button for each to the panel, but not the menu. This is on gnome 1.2 under RH7. I'm logged in as user 'len', but since it's my machine, I have full access if needed. Here's what led up to it: I had an apparently runaway process (fetchnews, maybe?) that caused the root filesystem to fill up completely. I found an 800MB+ ~/.xesession.errors and several hundred megs in /var/spool/squid. I was able to get the usage back down where it should be, but it never showed up (df -k), so I decided to reboot. Maybe I should have run 'sync'? Anyway, when it tried to shutdown squid, the system hung, so I had to hit the button. Now that I'm back up, usage is back to a normal level, but I've lost my gnome session preferences (or some of them). Another interesting thing is that if I su to root in a terminal and run gnomecc, it starts, but I get these kind of errors: root] ~ # gnomecc ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'background-properties-capplet'. aborting... ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'screensaver-properties-capplet'. aborting... Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 730 (gtk_container_remove): assertion `widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file gtk-multiview.c: line 440 (gtk_multiview_set_current): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1508 (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(unknown)' to `GtkWidget' Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3493 (gtk_widget_get_style): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. etc., etc. With each applet I choose from gnomecc, instead of the applet, I get a new instance of gnomecc. However, if I login as root, it runs normally. At any rate, I need to get the logout/lock and whatever else I'm missing from the system part of the meny added back. How can I do this? Am I better off just deleting or renaming ~/.gnome* and starting over, or will this even accomplish anything? Since I'm on the Internet with a cable modem, just out of paranoia, what are some common checks I can do to see if anyone gained access? Thanks. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 19:22:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDE62D2EC for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:22:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:23:32 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > Hi, > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > should > fix this issue. > > Jens > Ok, I must be really dense. I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd the resulting spec against the one found in the gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. From rob@ZOOstation.cc Sun Mar 25 21:23:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ZOOstation.cc (203-109-159-60.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.159.60]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7C2DC3F for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rob@localhost) by ZOOstation.cc (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NJAaK01435; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:10:36 +1200 Message-Id: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Subject: File Dialog From: Rob Brown-Bayliss To: GNOME List Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more useful as a users recent directory list. I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. -- Rob Brown-Bayliss ---======o======--- www.ZOOstation.cc From toralf@kscanners.com Mon Mar 26 01:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3C2E14B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hQqI-0007Cm-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABEE6DA.DFA5C3A5@kscanners.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Gettys Cc: cmevoli@afsa.com, GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your > display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering > with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with > behind its back. > > On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing > the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. That's what I've been thinking all along, but what strikes me as really odd is that I've not been able to reproduce the problem with a simple X session, or even GNOME without a menu panel or a panel "sliding in". > > > > Solution: > > Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, > and move back to the X server at the end of resume. > > On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this > automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe > recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make > this the default behavior is beyond me... I forgot to tell that I tried that earlier, but it caused but the X server would crash just after the switch back from the VT. Again, this seems strange to me, as this never happens if I change back and forth by hand (i.e. via Ctrl+Alt+), or even if I switch to a virtual console before suspending, then let the apm script change back. > > > But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage > your hardware may have with power management). > - Jim - Toralf From atounkara@nomade.fr Mon Mar 26 02:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183472BE87 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nomade.fr (127.0.0.1) by mail.libertysurf.net (5.1.053) id 3AA3431E0003BE88 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:36:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:36:14 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: SunOS and graphic cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "atounkara@nomade.fr" To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 47.162.85.36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've chosen to install gnone under Sun Solaris 5.7, but it seems to have some problems with the colors (limited to 256 colors) How can i display information about my board under gnome ? ------------------- L'e-mail gratuit pas comme les autres. Pour cr=E9er votre adresse : http://www.nomade.fr/courrier/ouvrir.asp NOMADE.FR, pourquoi chercher ailleurs ? From jens@eknif.de Mon Mar 26 02:40:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 500C12DE43 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24909 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Received: from 213-21-58-14.access.surf-callino.de (213.21.58.14) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:41:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 moparkix@bigfoot.com wrote: > > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > > > Hi, > > > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > > should > > fix this issue. > > > > Jens > > > > Ok, I must be really dense. > > I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out > gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd > the resulting spec against the one found in the > gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the offical cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to this mail so you can test it out. 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I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on every check. Has anyone else seen this? Is there an alternative to the gnome-core Mailcheck when using an IMAP server? -- Toralf Lund +47 66 85 51 22 Kongsberg Scanners AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.kscanners.no/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) From jaka@activetools.si Mon Mar 26 04:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A242BF3B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378517282; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:07:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A213A22; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:11:19 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > every check. make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a lot. regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From adam@bobomobo.cwru.edu Mon Mar 26 04:59:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5342DB65 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id EAA00911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 From: adam morley To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326045904.A831@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc>; from rob@ZOOstation.cc on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. yes. i like this idea. i have often wondered why gnome doesn't have it. those who have used windows 2000 (others too) notice the left hand dialog with "mycomputer" etc. it would be cool if we could have this, and make it configurable up the ying yang. > > > -- > > Rob Brown-Bayliss > ---======o======--- > www.ZOOstation.cc > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- thanks adam From adltorre@terra.es Wed Mar 21 18:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E572E001 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.terra.es ([213.99.219.44]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GAKM3600.12U; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:01:45 +0100 From: Antonio de la Torre To: veillard@redhat.com Cc: "John B. Stephens,II" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321170144.A521@nono> References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 16:44:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.21 16:44:06 +0100 Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version > of > > rpm..." > > > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > > spoke of. > > > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. I had the same problem as you. The first time i tested nautilus (i haven't tried anymore) i installed the rpm (i think it's 3.0.5 version) package provided in Eazel's page for red hat 6.2 and i could use gnorpm with no problem. I think this is the url: http://www.eazel.com/download/download_rpm Good luck! -- _______________________ Antonio de la Torre http://www.nonoweb.f2s.com adltorre@terra.es icq #19771138 From chris@scary.beasts.org Wed Mar 21 17:46:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.18.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31272CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19329 invoked by uid 501); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Evans X-Sender: To: jacob berkman Cc: Subba Rao , Gnome Users Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports In-Reply-To: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001, jacob berkman wrote: > > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? > > yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in > either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: > > ORBIIOPUSock=1 > ORBIIOPIPv4=0 > ORBIIOPIPv6=0 All GNOME-1.2 packagers, AFAIK, have opted for these safe defaults (fondly we recall the massive flame wars ;-). Including: - RedHat 7.0 - Ximian GNOME - Debian, so I'm told Perhaps the original poster is a RedHat6.x or other GNOME-1.0 user? Cheers Chris From m0par@home.com Wed Mar 21 17:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585162BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:18:55 -0600 From: Booboo To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? Reply-To: m0par@home.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001, gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) > Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org > Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? > > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or > directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or > directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. > -- > Gregory > oaf and GConf ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ From luciano@xmaster.scazzons.scz Thu Mar 22 15:41:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xmaster.scazzons.scz (ppp-1-220.21-151.libero.it [151.21.220.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845B32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from luciano@localhost) by xmaster.scazzons.scz (8.11.2/8.8.7) id f2M8HkY13638 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:45 +0100 From: Luciano Boschi To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal Message-ID: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Reply-To: luckylux@freemail.it References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from gannam@india.dharma.com on mer, mar 21, 2001 at 12:30:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Alan Patterson writes: > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. In preferences dialog: use --login so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell -- Luciano Boschi ** member of PLUG: Prato Linux User Group ** http://www.prato.linux.it/ ( /~lboschi/ ) ** member of Dark Skies Italian Fan Club ** http://www.darkskiesworld.com/dsfc/frameset.htm From louisg00@bellsouth.net Wed Mar 21 19:12:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D12D418 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-197-82.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.197.82]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA18095; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103220008.TAA18095@mail0.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/plain On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Ok guys last question, > > > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > > gnome-users-guide? > > Yes. > > It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in > it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although > it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. > > /me adds another to the todo list. > > Telsa > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed. Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 
On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote:

> > Ok guys last question,

> > 

> > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing

> > gnome-users-guide?

> 

> Yes.

> 

> It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in

> it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although

> it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum.

> 

> /me adds another to the todo list.

> 

> Telsa

> 

> _______________________________________________

> gnome-list mailing list

> gnome-list@gnome.org

> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed.

Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n-- From saperei@baitaca.ipen.br Thu Mar 22 10:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from baitaca.ipen.br (baitaca.ipen.br [200.136.52.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD162BCDC for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.ipen.br (IDENT:saperei@[10.0.8.26]) by baitaca.ipen.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12383 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:26 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA1615.90667208@net.ipen.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:17 -0300 From: Sergio Anefalos Pereira Organization: IPEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with mouse pointer X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody ! It is my first time in this list and I am a beginner in Linux systems. Unfortunately I am having some problem and I have no idea how to fix it. I'm using RedHat 6.2 and a PS/2 mouse. When a changed the screen resolution from 600x400 to 800x600 using Xconfigurator, the mouse pointer disappeared and what I have now is a white square of 2 x 2 cm. It moves exactly like the mouse pointer and it works like it. The upper left corner activates links and icons. But it's impossible to work with this square. I have tried to change the mouse (to serial one) and reinstall it. In text window mode, it seems to work well, but in the xwindow mode it is terrible. The only thing that I wouldn't like to do is reinstall the Linux. I have many programs and other stuff. So please, does anyone could help me ????? Thank you for your attention, Sergio From justinb@tricord.com Mon Mar 26 07:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from idoru.tricord.com (unknown [64.240.27.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06932DC1A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from justinb@localhost) by idoru.tricord.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03317; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 From: Justin Banks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15039.15527.522457.309028@idoru.tricord.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 (CST) X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: justinb@tricord.com X-Supreme-Numerical-Value: Bleen To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: function key <-> mouse button bindings X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello - I couldn't find this in the FM, and I'm not quite sure how to do it. What I'd like is to map F4 so that it'll paste from the cut buffer into xterms. I know this should be easy, I just can't quite get it. I'm running core 1.0, but an upgrade is on the map, as soon as I can find the time. Thanks much, justinb -- Justin Banks Tricord, Inc. justinb@tricord.com "Sorry I am off-topic, but OpenNT is the 2nd best oxymoron I've ever seen. Right after Microsoft Works." (Jacek Pliszka in comp.emacs.xemacs) From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 26 08:31:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE502E27A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04531; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:03:31 +0530 To: luckylux@freemail.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> From: G Annamalai Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:10:05 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Luciano Boschi writes: > > Alan Patterson writes: > > > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > > In preferences dialog: use --login > so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell Actually the best thing to do is to put all your customizations in your .bashrc file and source it from .bash_profile file. .bash_profile file is read only by the login shell and the .bashrc file is read by every (bash) shell. Maybe just have a look in the bash man/info page. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Mon Mar 26 09:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C012BB41 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.166]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18511; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:51:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Rob Brown-Bayliss Cc: GNOME List In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:50:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. > > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, and in my opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be very useful. A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Bart From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 26 10:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3682BEE0 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2QF6Ds22381; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: An Apology From: Mike Newman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:06:12 +0100 Message-Id: <985619172.21469.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Everyone, I want to apologise for a flippant and thoughtless comment I made on #gnome yesterday, concerning recent events at Eazel, Inc. E-mail received since the event has reminded me that sarcasm, and indeed my very warped, very British sense of humour do not translate well to IRC. The comment was ill-judged, and no offence was intended. I'd like to extend sincere apologies to anyone who I've offended or angered. ...and now back to your regularly scheduled programming... Humbly, Mike Newmann -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mawarkus@t-online.de Mon Mar 26 10:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5AC2BCB6; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hYx8-0007QG-02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:42 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.158.12.114]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hYwt-2HORAOC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:27 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11080; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion +++ Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 +++ Bart Kuik e-mails me. Film at 11. Reply right now, after the break. > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, Yes. > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. > A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, > Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with > extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency > between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file requester. I don't know what became of the project. I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. We should not repeat other people's errors. mawa -- CO2 | >< - FUEL HERE | | LS-L ------' ROYAL +-------+ +------+--+ | +----+ SPACE | DON'T | | CAUTION | HARD ,--------' | DANGER: NAVY | STEP | +---------+ POINT B| SIG-29-42 | NNTP C/1897 +-------+ From moparkix@bigfoot.com Mon Mar 26 12:59:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24CD2BB23 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:00:52 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: [New spec works--Thanks]Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the > offical > cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to > this > mail so you can test it out. > > Jens > Thanks Jens. It works here. From bathd@valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au Mon Mar 26 18:13:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DB2DCD4; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from valpro (valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.87]) by firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA22297; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:48 +1000 From: "David T. Bath" Reply-To: David.Bath@edipost.auspost.com.au Organization: EDIPost, Australia Post Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:46 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> In-Reply-To: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Subject: Re: File Dialog MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032709134600.01151@valpro> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tuesday 27 March 2001 01:12, Matthias Warkus wrote: > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. A couple of things they have got right are 1) Multi-file select is trivial 2) The files, once selected, are displayed QUOTED, to stop confusion between embedded spaces and filename delimeters. --=20 David T. Bath - bathd@edipost.auspost.com.au +61 3 9204 8713 (w) 0419 316 634 (M) From miguel@erandi.helixcode.com Mon Mar 26 19:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from erandi.helixcode.com (erandi.ximian.com [141.154.95.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DC2CA46; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by erandi.helixcode.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11383; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:51:52 -0500 To: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> From: Miguel de Icaza Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: mawarkus@t-online.de's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now Miguel. From mchamp@texas.net Mon Mar 26 21:57:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBFB2CE0C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net [209.99.60.5]) by mw2.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R2uuf05745 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:56:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: Problems removing items from Gnome system menu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am having a lot of problems just trying to remove some of the items in the Gnome system menu. I completely removed the Applications folder using gmenu, but I still see it on my menu panel. How can I get rid of these applications that are sticking around? They don't show up in gmenu (as root) at all. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Champagne, Software Engineer Capital Institutional Services, Inc. hm: mchamp@texas.net wk: mchampagne@capis.com From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 01:55:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD7FC2BDB7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 999 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r925.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.22.163) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for any hints. Jens From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 02:10:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DD82DF1D for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7528 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r1322.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.24.52) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:10:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a hires version of the gnome logo exists, which one can use for printing? Thanks for any pointers. Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Tue Mar 27 02:14:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84D2D4A4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hnfQ-0006me-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:23 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaka Mocnik Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Toralf Lund wrote: > > > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > > every check. > make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a > lot. Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... - Toralf From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 05:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CD2BDB1; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08839; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:55:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271055.MAA08839@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 12:54:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500, Miguel de Icaza wrote: <---> > Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an > optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now > It's only there if you select the 'list view' (small icons with text beside them) as far as I can remember..... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 06:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414B2BF70 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10670; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271142.NAA10670@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Hires printable GNOME logo? From: Bart Kuik To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 13:40:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200, Jens Finke wrote: > Hi, > > does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in > .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we > really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for > any hints. I only have one as .xcf, but I don't know where it came from, so I putted it on my homepage: http://www.rendo.dekooi.nl/~kuik/logo-gnome.xcf.bz2 It's a 1320x1500px bzipped xcf with four layers (bg, text, foot, foot-shadow), hope that's enough :-) Bart From A.J.Molenaar@xirion.nl Tue Mar 27 07:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from arseen.xirion.nl (arseen.xirion.nl [194.178.60.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089E02D40C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from technetium.xirion.nl (technetium.xirion.nl [194.178.60.122]) by arseen.xirion.nl (8.9.3/ROU-HKA) with ESMTP id NAA00785; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:49:07 +0200 Received: by technetium.xirion.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Arjan J. Molenaar" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: RE: File Dialog Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik says: > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and should be preserved IMHO. Ideas? Regards, Arjan From kilaru@netcontinuum.com Tue Mar 27 07:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from skilaru.netcontinuum.com (unknown [203.200.58.165]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15862CE0C for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcontinuum.com (IDENT:kilaru@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by skilaru.netcontinuum.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05756 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 From: Satish C Kilaru X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------19785FA4E684E22358569750" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list Thanks in advance Bye Kilaru --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="kilaru.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Satish C Kilaru Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kilaru.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kilaru;Satish C tel;work:91-80-8411438/9 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:kilaru@netcontinuum.com org:NetContinuum version:2.1 email;internet:kilaru@netcontinuum.com title:Software Development Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;NetContinuum ltd =0D=0AUnit No. 7, 2nd Floor, Innovator,=0D=0AITPL ;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India x-mozilla-cpt:;16608 fn:Satish C Kilaru end:vcard --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750-- From fabrice.colin@muscat.com Tue Mar 27 08:52:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sithonia.muscat.com (sithonia.muscat.com [193.131.74.132]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4232CE23 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from muscat.com (red.muscat.com [193.131.74.121]) by sithonia.muscat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13643 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC09A87.C66DE1F9@muscat.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:49:59 +0100 From: Fabrice Colin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <20010326170516.69DCA2D289@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I > don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file > requester. I don't know what became of the project. > > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. > > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. > > mawa Some months ago, somebody posted on this list a link to a library that patches/replaces the default file dialog. I find it most useful and this is actually what I use at home. But I am unable to remember its name or its URL... Maybe the person who posted it originally is reading this and could refresh my mind ? Fabrice -- "If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does." -- Groucho Marx From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 09:46:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0732BDC0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hukD-0007Ou-04; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:49 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.167]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hujb-1sLbzFC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:11 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22889 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Need German-language Nautilus screenshots Message-ID: <20010327154735.A22659@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, as you might know, due to a strange bug, Nautilus does not work on my system. I need some screenshots of it, however, and it's very unlikely that Eazel will fix the bug before the paper deadline (April 2nd). This one goes out to all the German-language guys here: Can someone of you do a couple of screenshots of what you consider important aspects of Nautilus 1.0? Please use a German locale and don't include any Eazel logos or other corporate identity. Thank you very much, mawa -- Nipple Mountains | Fucking Creek, Virginia | Sugar Tit, Tit Butts | Tickle Cunt Branch, Virginia | Kentucky Teton Mountain | Coldass Creek, North Carolina | -- mid-1800s' U.S. placenames From federico@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 10:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (du-148-221-119-218.prodigy.net.mx [148.221.119.218]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBDA2CBBE for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15870; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Message-Id: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-mantra: masochism, not policy To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" writes: > pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > > (file type not resolution) > > Try "man xsetroot" for info. > > But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, > cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters > would give you an image in root window placed as you want). Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Federico From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 10:54:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673C2CEDE; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23292; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:54:34 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271554.RAA23292@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: RE: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Arjan "J." Molenaar Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200, Arjan J. Molenaar wrote: > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts > to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference > they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans > were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the > wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly > like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and > should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? > Something based on the NeXTstep fileselector should indeed be the best (I assume the Wings / WindowMaker one is an exact clone). Small (360x320), with minimal mouse movement and not too much options. But going up in the directory structure (back to root) is a hell, coz you have to use the horizontal scrollbar with the scrollbuttons in the left bottom, while your mouse-pointer is in the right top side of the window. Everybody makes mistakes, and it's VERY uncomfortable if the interface 'punishes' you for making them. I didn't figure out where a button or something similar must be placed, but I know there must be a better way to do it. I think it's best to put the "recent files" in a virtual folder. At opening the window there must be 3 choices in the left-hand selection-box : home, recent, and the standard working-dir of the app (ie, $HOME/files/nameofapp) That's as far as I see the perfect fileselector. I ain't a interface-expert, I can't even hack a gtk+ app or whatever, I'm (still) just a user.... Hmmm.... nice.... the apple-like taskmenu of the gnome menu-panel (gnome-core 1.4.0) crashes (and restarts, good work! :) ) if I want to open it if I have the WindowMaker configger WPrefs.app opened with a dialog of the fileselector. I found a bug in a stable-release. gee. I'm gonna submit it. :-) Bart From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 11:15:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A522E0FF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hw7v-00078A-03; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:23 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.19]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hw7N-1Y9tMOC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:14:49 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07104 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph in Gnumeric. Or am I mistaken? mawa -- It is a common characteristic of all democracies that intelligence is so highly regarded as to exempt the holder from the cares of office -- major@pyrmania From famrom@idecnet.com Tue Mar 27 11:26:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp4.eresmas.com (unknown [62.81.160.201]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA412DC49 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship ([62.83.23.149]) by smtp4.eresmas.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAV71Y06.KDX for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:27:34 +0200 Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01831 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com>; from federico@ximian.com on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:47:29AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" which magically means that GNOME can be used from scripts or CLI too ( forbid!). Or the reply was of "GNOME is only clicky clicky" kind? :] BTW, there should be a --no-gui or --from-script or something like that, cos --init-session-settings does not sound nice, IMHO. As well as access to tile modes and other settings, cos until then, other commands win in script mode. GSR From jacob@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 11:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7F2DC7A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14hwW5-0002rd-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:40:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Bitmap format? From: jacob berkman To: Guillermo "S." Romero / Familia Romero Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985711221.10891.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. > > Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet > --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" does the --init-session-settings work multiple times? on some capplets, they acquire an X atom or something when they start up which causes them not to init their settings if run multiple times. jacob -- "I ain't no monkey, sho' cain't climb no tree." -- Robert Plant From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:08:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CEF2BCA2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27063; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric From: Bart Kuik To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:06:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > in Gnumeric. > > Or am I mistaken? > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD262D3B8 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27749 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:21:42 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? Bart From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 15:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132C2BA85 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19721; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:01:44 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already there) - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is quite complex): installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] --debug - print out debugging information (useful) --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - look discussion about fontmap files --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need at least one afm + one pfb to create font) fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) should be given by --assignment option. Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): installer/gnome-font-install \ --debug \ --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ --fontmap-path=./fonts Fortunately: This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up correct installation process in postinit scripts. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > Bart > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:27:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117EE2C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26836 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202731.26835.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:27:31 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DCF82C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26857 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202801.26856.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:01 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57E22C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BF2BAAF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06792; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:46:27 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: some newbie questions. From: Bart Kuik To: Peter Berthlin Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:45:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of the Control Center > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:53:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF07B2DFCF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07245; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:53:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: Lauris Kaplinski Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks! The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the canvas used by Gnumeric? grtz, Bart On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > Hello! > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > there) > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > quite complex): > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > look discussion about fontmap files > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > should be given by --assignment option. > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > --debug \ > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > Fortunately: > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > Best wishes, > Lauris Kaplinski > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > Bart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 16:21:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7E2BEE0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07268; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:21:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272121.AAA07268@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 23:20:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! It is not a bug, or if, than the bug of X itself. Gtk canvas (gnumeric) has to use X fonts, antialiased one (print preview) uses font outlines directly. But antialiased canvas has other problems, so it is unpracticable for gnumeric. The situation will become better, if gnome will move to X render, but that will take some time. Sometimes gnumeric display will become better, if you reorder your fonts in X/xfs configuration file. Gnome-print uses first X font with correct style and size for Gtk canvas display - so if scalable fonts are before bitmap ones, the scalable ones will be used. >From my xfs config file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Thanks! > > The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do > you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very > crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the > canvas used by Gnumeric? > > grtz, > Bart > > > On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > > Hello! > > > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > > there) > > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > > quite complex): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > > look discussion about fontmap files > > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > > should be given by --assignment option. > > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > > --debug \ > > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > > > Fortunately: > > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > > > Best wishes, > > Lauris Kaplinski > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From trow@trna.ximian.com Tue Mar 27 17:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C52BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from trow@localhost) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28019; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 From: Jon Trowbridge To: Bart Kuik Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327170122.A21095@trna.ximian.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Kuik , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > > in Gnumeric. > > > > Or am I mistaken? > > > > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You > have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not > reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just > remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... This is correct. I don't know what the precise plans are, but the bonobo-enabled gnumeric should be packaged sometime post-1.4. When this happens, the main "entry barrier" to using Guppi with Gnumeric (i.e. the need to build gnumeric from the sources) will have been removed. -JT From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 17:30:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-161.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BFE2BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RMX5s18911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:45:11PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > the Control Center > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from the main config dir) and look for section that starts out __ACLASS __BGN __NAME DESKBINDINGS then find the config lines that look similar to: __NEXT_ACTION __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL __ACTION __A_SHOW_MENU "named ROOT_2" and delete those five or comment them out or change them, whatever. > Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's > the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works > perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, > like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that > conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big > E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... > > Bart austin From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 18:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-49.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D882BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RNNI729083 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:17 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327182317.A28836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:33:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Austin hall wrote: > on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > > the Control Center > > > > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? > > edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from > the main config dir) and look for section that starts out > __ACLASS __BGN > __NAME DESKBINDINGS > > then find the config lines that look similar to: > __NEXT_ACTION > __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" > __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS > __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL oops, "__MODIFER_KEY __CTRL" won't be there. that's what i did to fix the problem in my own configuration that I copied the example from. austin From shochat@acm.org Tue Mar 27 19:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC22BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S0kaU15205; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AC134BF.2080606@acm.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:47:59 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010326 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satish C Kilaru Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Instructions can be found here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list It's at the bottom of the page ("To change your subscription...") Satish C Kilaru wrote: > Hi All > > Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list > > Thanks in advance > > Bye > Kilaru > From stefan.mattauch@post.rwth-aachen.de Wed Mar 28 01:51:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from desktop2.home.de (s4m222.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.222]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA3D2BDD0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.rwth-aachen.de (IDENT:a@desktop2.home.de [127.0.0.1]) by desktop2.home.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2S6s9j01297 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC18A91.8D0B9DC1@post.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 From: Stefan Mattauch Reply-To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Arjan J. Molenaar" wrote: > > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some > attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how > much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about > it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current > file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ > style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like > the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice > feature and should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? Some idea I have is coming form the Acorn-Desktop. I don't wether someone knows these machienes or not, doesn't matter in the end anyway. But there file-selection was quiet simple, because they used the DRAG&DROP mechanism to the end. Just drag a Icon (mime-type) of your file to the place where it should be. Small, simpl and effective!! Editing of the filename or type was possible too. There could be additional things BUT not to much. For creating a directory you should have a good working directory-viewer (gmc, nautilus ... ;-)) (or something new ?)) Stefan Mattauch From jaka@activetools.si Wed Mar 28 03:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BBD2D433 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB037282; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A2398D; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AC1A1E8.29DD6CCB@si.tlan> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:33:44 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: Jaka Mocnik , GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time > back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but > I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... no, there is no such bug in bugzilla. I couldn't find it, anyway... regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 03:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.91.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E52CE82 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04356; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:56:32 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:12:26 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Takeshi Aihana , Murali Kumar , k_anjuta@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, Anjuta 0.1.4 has been released. I am sorry it's a bit late, but that's because I the got deadline on the deadline date! Anjuta does not yet use the Bugzilla for its bug reporting/fixing, so I am reporting the changes here. Anjuta 0.1.4 has be targeted as the bug fixed and more stable stable version of Anjuta (without any feature addition) keeping in mind the release of Gnome-1.4. We have even skipped and shielded Anjuta 0.1.3 from gnome-1.4. because we wanted stable version of Anjuta to be with gnome-1.4. The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the users having old glade from generating project. 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. 7) Debugger now takes program args. 8) Added japanese translation file. 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Follow the following links to get Anjuta 0.1.4: ----------------------------- * Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ * Anjuta Download: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/download.html * Anjuta Screen shots: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/scrshot.html -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Honi soit la vache qui rit. ------------------------------------------------------------- From cardiel@gmx.ch Wed Mar 28 07:39:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 287192CE37 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21887 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Received: from h55p105-2.delphi.afb.lu.se (HELO strych7) (130.235.187.181) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 From: cardie To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian on slackware? Message-Id: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.61 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. cardiel From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 28 07:52:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9DA2DDDF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-13.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@[195.7.143.173]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12099; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200103281252.OAA12099@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Ximian on slackware? From: Bart Kuik To: cardie Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 14:51:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... Slackware also isn't in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... Bart On 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200, cardie wrote: > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > cardiel > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jik@foxinternet.net Wed Mar 28 13:15:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8E62D2BF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:14:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > From: cardie > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... And it isn't needed to install programs..... > Slackware also isn't > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. From philippedoucet@hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:18:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1112BB19 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:18:15 -0800 Received: from 24.157.72.219 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.157.72.219] From: "Philippe Doucet" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bash script question. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6AFB2A0:01C0B7BB] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion



I was wondering if someone coul help me. I"m writting a script in redhat 6.2 with bash.

I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a command that will put a white space between each letters of the word.

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From reinhard.mueller@bytewise.at Wed Mar 28 14:34:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from email03.aon.at (WARSL401PIP5.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C292BA9A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5561312 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Received: from n816p010.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO bytewise.at) ([62.47.45.234]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC23D08.F48B9ED2@bytewise.at> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:36 +0200 From: Reinhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Organization: BYTEWISE Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Doucet Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bash script question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Philippe Doucet wrote: > I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a > command that will put a white space between each letters of the word. try: cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g this also puts a whitespace in front of the word. You can remove that by doing cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g | sed -e "s/^ //" but I'm sure there are more elegant ways for doing the latter. BTW I don't see anything gnome-specific about this problem :) -- Reinhard Müller BYTEWISE Software GmbH A-6890 Lustenau, Enga 2 http://www.bytewise.at From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 28 14:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E682B2BE1B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2SJvda03379 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack Message-ID: <20010328205739.D1248@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net>; from jik@foxinternet.net on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > From: cardie > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > installer?. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: You can download pre-rolled tgzs from [1]Poland, or get the [2]binary rpms or [3]source rpms from the Red Hat directory at [4]our ftp site, and install by hand with rpm. Or you can convert them to slack packages with rpm2tgz. And, in a brave trick of hackery, you can fool the graphical installer into thinking you're a Red Hat user. The command: echo "Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)" > /etc/redhat-release has been reported to make the installer work, although you're likely to have difficulty with one or another dependency somewhere. 1. ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/packages/helix 2. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/ 3. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/SRPMS/ > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P > I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. Eh? Ximian just says "here's how to try, but we don't support Slack". Where did Red Hat come into this? I think the GNOME hackers who have never worked at RH might be a little offended at the idea that RH developed all of GNOME. > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... It isn't needed if you want to compile from scratch. It isn't needed if you're using the GNOME packages off Slackware 7.1. It's probably not needed if you grab the rpms or debs and run alien (dunno). It is needed by the Ximian installer though. > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same > guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something > that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". And http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of Slackware was discussed. Which is exactly one week ago. For future reference, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ is a search interface for all the GNOME lists hosted at gnome.org. Telsa From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 28 16:21:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D553C2BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 17978925 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC25639.DD4F7BA3@megapathdsl.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:23:05 -0800 From: Miles Lane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac26 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Have you folks discussed Microsoft HailStorm? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion http://www.microsoft.com/net/hailstorm.asp From landie@concentric.net Wed Mar 28 22:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD42BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA13431; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:48 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from mail.concentric.net (ts009d48.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.237.204]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA20002; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.concentric.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386), from userid 500) id ED5EF38507; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Cc: beta@helixcode.com;;;, suse-list Subject: nautilus Message-ID: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? gnome what, i have helix gnome installed -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Wed Mar 28 22:05:00 EST 2001 From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 23:47:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3582E0A6; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01907; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:12:51 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC2C107.8808B9C5@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:48 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: gnome-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org, linux-india-programmers@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org, anjuta-announce@lists.sourceforge.net, anjuta-list@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> <001a01c0b78e$68d1e8c0$f5616c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." wrote: > Does Anjuta support C++ yet? last I downloaded it, it did not support C++. > If not do you have an rough estimate as to when it will? > That was what I've been afraid of when I skipped Anjuta 0.1.3 from Gnome releases. Actually, the changes I have given is for Anjuta 0.1.4 *wrt* Anjuta 0.1.3. Since, Anjuta 0.1.3 was not announced officially for Gnome (It was announced as the Alpha release for the developers only), I am giving the ChangeLog of Anjuta-0.1.3 *wrt* Anjuta-0.1.2 (which probably is the version you are using right now. The list is a bit long. :-). New in Anjuta 0.1.3 (wrt Anjuta 0.1.2): --------------------------- 1.=> Anjuta now integrates Scintilla editing component: Automatic syntax hilighting (using lexers). Code folding/hiding . Linenumbers/markers display. Text zoomming. Text autocompletion Automatic indentation and indentation guides ... and much more. 2.=> Dynamic Project Management: Anjuta no longer uses the templete based project management. Provides project configuration. Added two more modules in project management: (Help module and Translation module). Added BONOBO support and BONOBO application widzard. Support for C++ prjects. 3.=> Java style Properties management: Now uses Java style properties management. Which makes it highly configurable, both from distributor's and user's side. 4.=> Supports for Other languages added: Java, Perl, Python, LaTeX, ... and others can be user configurable. 5.=> On-Board command editor: Facilates customization of commands used for compiling, building and execution. 6.=> Provides Hilite style editor: Used for custumizing Syntax hiliting style. 7.=> More inteligent messaging system: Now error messages (or messages in general) can be browsed using goto Prev/Next message, goto start/end of block and goto matching braces. 8.=> Bookmarks management: Anjuta has now supported Bookmarks management. 9.=> Debugger: Now breakpoints can be toggled Onboard. Added Run to cursor. Fixed some earlier bugs. 10.=> Added Two more toolbars: Browser toolbar for browsing messages, bookmarks and code blocks. Format toolbar for easy formating of code statements. 11.=> Application GUI: Smarter and more informative status bar. Improved memory to remember Application GUI configuration between sessions. ---------------0-------------------------------- > > > The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: (wrt Anjuta 0.1.3): > >-------------------------------------------- > > > > 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the > > users having old glade from generating project. > > > > 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. > > > > 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. > > > > 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. > > > > 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. > > > > 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. > > > > 7) Debugger now takes program args. > > > > 8) Added japanese translation file. > > > > 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Postmen never die, they just lose their zip. ------------------------------------------------------------- From chuck@fiu.edu Thu Mar 29 00:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from spn25c0.fiu.edu (unknown [131.94.68.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F092D3A2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fiu.edu ([129.37.230.177]) by spn25c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.03.00 201-232-128 license 840fca18751889914c07c5419b2f6990) with ESMTP id <20010329053903.IHNG19388.spn25c0@fiu.edu> for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500 From: Chuck Organization: FIU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Where are my Icons ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 01:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D941E2BD01 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T6XwH18326; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Ben FrantzDale To: Chuck Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist --Ben On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Thu Mar 29 02:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ultra.dsea.unipi.it (ultra.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76052BB47 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dsea.unipi.it (IDENT:coppelli@ssdmw.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.253]) by ultra.dsea.unipi.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2T7Gg616975 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200 From: Alessandro Coppelli Reply-To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14smp i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem with pager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi to all. I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) when start "startx" I obtain ------ Desk guide Alert Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not running a gnome compliant window manager. Gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper desk guide operation . ------- I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) Where is the problem ??? Alessandro From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 29 02:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC672C8C7 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.243]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01602; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:08:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200103290708.JAA01602@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Bart Kuik To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: Chuck , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 09:06:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you have a menubar on top of the screen, you can get the tasklist by clicking in the right side of the menubar. The Apple style. If you want a Windows-style taskbar, leftclick on the panel where you want to have it -> panel -> add to panel -> applet -> utility -> tasklist Bart On 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist > > --Ben > > On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 02:18:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438622BAC2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T7IkH19455; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:18:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Problem with pager From: Ben FrantzDale To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> References: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 23:18:48 -0500 Message-Id: <985839528.5919.4.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200, Alessandro Coppelli wrote: > > Hi to all. > > I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) > > when start "startx" I obtain > ------ > Desk guide Alert > > Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not > running a gnome compliant window manager. > Gnome support by the window manager is strongly > recommended for proper desk guide operation . > > ------- > > I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. > > I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and > can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) > > Where is the problem ??? > > Alessandro It looks like you don't have a window manager running. As you may know, the X Windows system needs a program to do with Windows and MacOS do on their own--put a titlebar on windows. If you can, run gnomecc, go to the ``Window Manager'' section and select a window manager (such as Sawfish) then hit OK. All should be well... Out of curiosity, what does your /home/username/.xinitrc file say? --Ben From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 12:05:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 181BA2DC6C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from 63.193.165.34 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:05:12 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman , gnome Cc: , suse-list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to nautilus-list@eazel.com. John From jik@foxinternet.net Thu Mar 29 13:16:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AE82BAFB for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC37CAA.75678081@foxinternet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:19:22 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome on slack References: <20010329170517.4C81F2DC73@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > _-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: xiniman on slack > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > > From: cardie > > > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > > installer?. > > http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: Yeah, the polond site doesn't seem to respond....little too far away me thinks. In fact it never responded during this whole letter. > > The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken > directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those > as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. > Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant > "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". Well download.gnome.org looks exactly the same as the rest of the mirrors. We have some packages in stable and other packages in unstable. packages in unstable require packages in stable and some programs which are not even at this site. Since all distros have 1.2 afaik, and most of the packages being developed for gnome right now require bonobo....it is pretty pointless messing with stable. When I downloaded gnome from that section and took it home on CD I got there and found that I didn't have the "unstable gnome", I had a few semi-related unstable programs. Sometimes the configure file knew I had the wrong package....many times it didn't....there is no list of packages that these programs depend on (in README you can usually find the things you need to compile a program...not so with gnome programs).... Even after I downloaded ALL of stable and unstable I found I did not have all of gnome! I had to go hunt down other packages at redhat.com and freshmeat.....which is just rediculous for an integrated system. So these things need to happen 1. all files that are needed to set up gnome need to be in a single directory...one for stable the other for Beta or alpha. Sure there will be some redundancy, but so what....this makes your system easier to use. 2. All programs in gnome should specify in the README all of the other programs that need to be installed before it....this is common practice I don't know why gnome developers aren't doing it. 3. Why are there so many core components to gnome NOT in gnome-core???? When I install something that says *-core I expect that I have the base system installed, what is left are *optional*, it is that way with KDE, it is that way with gnustep....why is it not so with Gnome? > > > And > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html > contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs > on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of > Slackware was discussed. Yes, I saw that....in fact that will clarify my point....you have to go to a mail list to get directions to compile Gnome....even if you know what your doing. Gnome IS the hardest system I have ever seen to compile, there are so many standard things just not done here. That is why I said it appears it was done on purpose....thinking back to other difficult compiles (old Wine, DosEmu, XFree86 the first time) all of them had good documentation and directions for the compile and setup procedures.....even for alpha trees. Yeah, KDE sucks.....but I think Gnome could take some lessons from KDE when it come to source packaging! From jfonde@fr.inter.net Thu Mar 29 18:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from clever.visp-europe.psi.com (clever.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC62BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip56.velizy2.pub-ip.fr.psi.net ([154.15.21.56] helo=jfonde) by clever.visp-europe.psi.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ilWx-0004Gj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:08:39 +0200 From: Ondedieu JF Reply-To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Organization: Particulier To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Normal case icon names on desktop Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into Times-like NORMAL. Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. Could some body help me ?? Thanks -- --------------------------------------------------- JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU jfonde@fr.inter.net --------------------------------------------------- From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 18:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B912BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA22841; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts006d16.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.28]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA17967; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion here is the error completely hope you can help loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes checking if gcc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool loading cache ./config.cache checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes checking for orbit-config... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes checking for orbit-idl... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl Determining mount system properties: checking for setmntent... yes checking for endmntent... yes checking for mntent.h... yes checking for sys/mnttab.h... no checking for sys/vfstab.h... no checking for sys/cdio.h... no checking for /dev... yes checking for /vol/dev... no checking for /vol... no checking for /etc/mnttab... no checking for /proc/mounts... yes checking for /proc/1... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for unsetenv... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for asm/vm86.h... yes checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes checking for FT_Init_FreeType in -lfreetype... yes checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... yes checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no checking for xpcom... yes checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in -lgtksuperwin... no checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in -lgtkembedmoz... no checking for Mozilla... no checking for bzread in -lbz2... no checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gnome-config... /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes checking for additional GNOME modules... *** gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better is required. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > > > > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication > somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? > > Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to > nautilus-list@eazel.com. > > John > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 18:05:00 EST 2001 From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 19:19:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA5B82BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-63-193-165-34.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.193.165.34] by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:19:28 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman Cc: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in this line: > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library you're missing. John on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > here is the error completely hope you can > help > > > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for a BSD compatible install... > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for working aclocal... found > checking for working autoconf... found > checking for working automake... found > checking for working autoheader... found > checking for working makeinfo... found > checking whether to enable > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > no > checking host system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking build system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > (cached) yes > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > /usr/bin/nm -B > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking for object suffix... o > checking for executable suffix... no > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > -fPIC > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > -fno-exceptions ... yes > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > -static > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > yes > checking whether the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > libraries... yes > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > output... ok > checking how to hardcode library paths into > programs... immediate > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > option to reload object files... -r > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > Linux ld.so > checking if libtool supports shared > libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... > yes > checking whether to build static libraries... > no > checking for objdir... .libs > creating libtool > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > -E > checking for a BSD compatible install... > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for esd-config... > /usr/bin/esd-config > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > checking for orbit-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > checking for orbit-idl... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > Determining mount system properties: > > checking for setmntent... yes > checking for endmntent... yes > checking for mntent.h... yes > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > checking for /dev... yes > checking for /vol/dev... no > checking for /vol... no > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > checking for setenv... yes > checking for unsetenv... yes > checking for putenv... yes > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > -lfreetype... yes > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > yes > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > checking for xpcom... yes > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > -lgtksuperwin... no > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > -lgtkembedmoz... no > checking for Mozilla... no > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > checking for glib-config... > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gtk-config... > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gnome-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > John Sullivan wrote: > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > landie@concentric.net wrote: >> >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 >> what are they referring to? >>> >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed >>> >> >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > sounds like a miscommunication >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > 1.2.9? >> >> Also, you're more likely to get a > knowledgeable answer if you post to >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. >> >> John >> >> > From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 20:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC682BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA03830; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:22 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts007d20.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.80]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA29744; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does not find it On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in > this line: > > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library > you're missing. > > John > > on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > here is the error completely hope you can > > help > > > > > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for working aclocal... found > > checking for working autoconf... found > > checking for working automake... found > > checking for working autoheader... found > > checking for working makeinfo... found > > checking whether to enable > > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > > no > > checking host system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking build system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > > cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > (cached) yes > > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > > /usr/bin/nm -B > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking for object suffix... o > > checking for executable suffix... no > > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > > -fPIC > > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > > -fno-exceptions ... yes > > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > > -static > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > yes > > checking whether the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > > output... ok > > checking how to hardcode library paths into > > programs... immediate > > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > option to reload object files... -r > > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > > Linux ld.so > > checking if libtool supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking whether to build shared libraries... > > yes > > checking whether to build static libraries... > > no > > checking for objdir... .libs > > creating libtool > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > is a cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > > -E > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > > checking for esd-config... > > /usr/bin/esd-config > > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > > checking for orbit-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > > checking for orbit-idl... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > > > Determining mount system properties: > > > > checking for setmntent... yes > > checking for endmntent... yes > > checking for mntent.h... yes > > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > > checking for /dev... yes > > checking for /vol/dev... no > > checking for /vol... no > > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > > > > checking for setenv... yes > > checking for unsetenv... yes > > checking for putenv... yes > > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > > -lfreetype... yes > > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > > yes > > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > > checking for xpcom... yes > > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > > -lgtksuperwin... no > > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > > -lgtkembedmoz... no > > checking for Mozilla... no > > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > > checking for glib-config... > > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gtk-config... > > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gnome-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > > John Sullivan wrote: > > > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > > landie@concentric.net wrote: > >> > >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > >> what are they referring to? > >>> > >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > >>> > >> > >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > > sounds like a miscommunication > >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > > 1.2.9? > >> > >> Also, you're more likely to get a > > knowledgeable answer if you post to > >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > > > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 20:05:00 EST 2001 From mchamp@texas.net Thu Mar 29 20:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6C2E274 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net [209.99.92.152]) by mw3.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2U1Fei21645 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:15:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:28:36 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: How do I delete menu items? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in it. Thanks! Mike From michaelv@cox-internet.com Thu Mar 29 23:41:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B42BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.192.193]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010330044007.RNKL25449.io@cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:40:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop From: Michael Thomas To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.29.09.06 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:46:38 -0600 Message-Id: <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus prefrences. Hope this helps. On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > Times-like NORMAL. > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > Could some body help me ?? > > Thanks > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 08:46:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1C02BBE7 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-168.aculink.net [204.118.157.168]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UDkma07829 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id GAA24664 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301347.GAA24664@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Keeping Terminal Open Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is it possible to keep gnome-terminal open after it has automatically executed a program with --execute? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 11:07:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DABF2E01D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-133.aculink.net [204.118.157.133]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UG81a18676 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id JAA06936 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Blocking Access Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From olau@hardworking.dk Fri Mar 30 12:36:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4792BACE for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from 35.ppp1-1.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.35) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2UGBdB01281; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:11:39 +0200 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: nautilus References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> From: Ole Laursen Date: 30 Mar 2001 18:11:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Landy Roman's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does > not find it Do you have the gdk-pixbuf-devel package too? You probably need that to compile anything pixbuf related. BTW, please cut out some of the citation when you answer - duplicating the entire message is superfluous and it makes it harder to follow a thread (thus enlarging the risk that people will just ignore the message). -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 30 16:06:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zephyr.host4u.net (zephyr.host4u.net [216.71.64.66]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4331D2BB19 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by zephyr.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20706 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:03:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3AC4F3C7.6824B986@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:59:51 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: gnome core's References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i understand that gnome has some "issues" with core's........sometimes when I start into gnome desktop even not starting an app yet.....my HD spins out of controll...okay well you get idea :)...and sometimes doesn't stop for several minutes......this troubles me...why does it do this is there a probable cause or just something thats being addressed or my particular configuration since installing...... i heard on another list i think it was about this that someone else has this going on and wanted to ask if there was anything I could do for now to help minimize this waste of HD useage :).. thanks :) lee -=== From bob@thestuff.net Fri Mar 30 16:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ida.net (mail.ida.net [204.228.203.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674B12BCA5 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5of9.H.TheStuff.net) (208.141.171.197) by mail.ida.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Subject: Re: xiniman on slack From: Bob Smith To: Noah Roberts Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Mar 2001 15:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <985990383.22561.0.camel@5of9.H.TheStuff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, its posible that its due to the fact that since slack has no real package management system (no, tarballs arent packages), that slack users should be use to compileing. If they didnt like compileing, they wouldnt use slack. Probably the real reason is that it would take considerable extra time to make slack tarball packages because slack is so different from the other distros. RPM or DEB is very common amung all distro's. Slacks tgz's are not. On 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800, Noah Roberts wrote: > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > > From: cardie > > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... > > > Slackware also isn't > > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... > > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he > plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From dmcglone@ameritech.net Fri Mar 30 17:43:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0F2BAB6 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([64.108.99.60]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010330224350.EWKH7459.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@default>; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> From: "David M." To: , References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> Subject: Re: Blocking Access Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:42:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion don't give them the root password. David M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SoloCDM" To: "Gnome-List (Request)" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Blocking Access > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? > > Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing > list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. > > ********************************************************************* > Signed, > SoloCDM > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:54:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9DE2BA99 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V13gC31288; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:41 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commander code (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a constant defined as this: #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #else #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #endif Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc source hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting ? My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; But I could be wrong ... If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The color is customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Michael Thomas wrote: > If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled > by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the > theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop > "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus > prefrences. > > Hope this helps. > > On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > > Times-like NORMAL. > > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > > > Could some body help me ?? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC2DDF1 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V18sC31317; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52E25.99F32FB4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:53 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Champagne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How do I delete menu items? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Search in /usr/share/gnome/apps. Some are here. Some others seems to be dynamicaly rebuild at run time (the ones that are absolutly mandatory for panel to run ...??? ). Have a look in panel code to be sure. Michael Champagne wrote: > There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when > I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted > my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in > it. Thanks! > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From knghtbrd@galen.magenet.net Fri Mar 30 21:59:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from galen.magenet.net (63-224-228-227.customers.uswest.net [63.224.228.227]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47D2BC2D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by galen.magenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D9513F8; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 From: Joseph Carter To: Remi Cohen-Scali Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop Message-ID: <20010330185926.B3265@debian.org> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM>; from Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux galen 2.4.2-ac26 X-No-Junk-Mail: Spam will solicit a hostile reaction, at the very least. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200, Remi Cohen-Scali wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commande= r code > (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a consta= nt > defined as this: >=20 > #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*= ," \ > "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #else > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ > "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ > "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #endif >=20 > Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc sour= ce > hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting= ? > My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; > But I could be wrong ... > If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The = color is > customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Color's easy. Font is a source hack only. Further proof that gmc is evil beyond belief. --=20 Joseph Carter Free software developer "Yes, your honour, I have RSA encryption code tattood on my penis. Shall I show the jury?" --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: 1024D/DCF9DAB3 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 iEYEARECAAYFAjrFSA4ACgkQj/fXo9z52rMhrwCfdsmqmRV6+d8TF6b5TrRoCWVG dI0An1DXT92xcoP7VkQoiLW5QzgAuGwy =kr1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From deedsmis@aculink.net Sat Mar 31 12:58:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3344D2BCBC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-98.aculink.net [204.118.157.98]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2VHwfg07800; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from aculink.net (IDENT:redneck@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net [192.168.20.1]) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) with ESMTP id KAA12204; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:12 -0700 From: SoloCDM Reply-To: deedsmis@aculink.net, gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: "Gnome-List (Request)" Subject: Re: Blocking Access References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." stated the following: > > don't give them the root password. I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SoloCDM" > > > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From larry@marso.com Sat Mar 31 13:13:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from max.worldcontrol.com (unknown [206.112.124.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8295A2DC07 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17696 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2001 18:18:54 -0000 From: larry@marso.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:18:54 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: bonobo CORBA exception "COMM_FAILURE" nautilus Message-ID: <20010331101854.A17691@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Any suggestions on the following? Thanks. On a Redhat 7.0 system, if I run nautilus as root (horror!) it works great in web browsing mode. As user, I get the following failure in the console, and "Web Page can't continue" in a dialog box: Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on realize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on unrealize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' ** WARNING **: A view failed. The UI will handle this with a dialog but this should be debugged. . From famrom@idecnet.com Sat Mar 31 13:29:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (3-MADR-X24.libre.retevision.es [62.83.13.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBFF2BC43 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01521; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: deedsmis@aculink.net Subject: Re: Blocking Access Message-ID: <20010331202913.A1515@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org, deedsmis@aculink.net References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net>; from deedsmis@aculink.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:59:12AM -0700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion deedsmis@aculink.net (2001-03-31 at 1059.12 -0700): > > don't give them the root password. > I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. Two options: - change the binaries to be only executable by a group, and only put on it those people you want to allow. Radical and could derive in "GNOME sucks, the manual says this and it does not work" or worse. - teach your users not to fuck up things. They can only break their own items, normally people do not want that. And if they break it, they learn, it is like kids and painful things (with basic difference that IIRC GNOME is not lethal as a gas kitchen can be). I see few reasons for the radical approach. Even demo installs can avoid it with the advantage of begin full working demos, like removing config and creating a new one in each login. So I see zero reasons, ATM. I would like to know what really is so important to force things, which can create other problems (eye problems, ie) or unhappiness ("my boss is dictator", ie), vs freedom. Please share the reason. GSR From rodolfo.borges@mail.com Fri Mar 30 01:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from panther.unisys.com.br (panther.unisys.com.br [200.220.64.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6432BCA5; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.com ([146.164.9.150]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2U6mAv05377; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:48:11 -0300 (BDB) X-Spam-Filter: check_local@panther.unisys.com.br by digitalanswers.org Message-ID: <3AC42C9C.AF3ABFD7@mail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:04 -0300 From: rodolfo.borges@mail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, sawmill@aarg.net, gnome-gui-list@gnome.org Subject: integrating cmdline and gui Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion An idea for gnome panel: (or any gui that have buttons/menus to run programs) The problem is that we don't see the stdout/stderr of the X programs. Of course we could run them from a command line, but we don't know a priori when we will like to see the output, and it would be a total mess to have one xterm for every X process. :) The solution is the launcher (the panel, or file manager, whatever) to redirect the stderr to a temp file like /tmp/xproc/.stderr An applet could give the user easy access to this information. Another cool feature: filters. The launchers could have an additional properties page called "output log" with: - A check button to save the log - Another check button to apply the list of filters - A list of filters (with new/edit/del buttons) Each filter have a regular expression (or just a simple string and 'case' checkbox) and action(s) to be performed on a hit: beep, display a msgbox, whatever. -- Rodolfo.Borges@mail.com From mike@cyborg-group.com Thu Mar 29 07:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5572BBE4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14iZfN-00021Z-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:33 +0100 Subject: gnome ftp server- seriously hacking me off From: mike To: Sarah Mount Cc: David A Knight , Gnome General Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 13:10:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Can someone please explain WHY the ftp server insists that your email and IP address match When you are behind a firewall they dont for obvious reasons This is NOT a problem with any other ftp server I am aware of From fabiofb@facilit.com.br Thu Mar 29 01:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from servidor_ecos.xpti (facilit.com.br [200.249.140.26]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5052E135 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by servidor-ecos.xpti with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: Fabio Gomes To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RES: Where are my Icons ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 1. Right click the panel 2. Click: Add to panel -> applets -> utilities -> task list []s Fabio Gomes de Souza Facilit Tecnologia fabiofb@facilit.com.br > -----Mensagem original----- > De: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]Em > nome de Chuck > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 29 de marco de 2001 02:42 > Para: gnome-list@gnome.org > Assunto: Where are my Icons ? > > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to > get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From foobar@clara.co.uk Wed Mar 28 06:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea (gaea.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77E2CEDC for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from claranet by gaea with local (Exim 3.11 #1) id 14iDx9-000OQa-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Reply-To: list-01@foobar.clara.co.uk Subject: Missing applets and icons are black (Debian 2.2 / X 4.0.2) Cc: X-Remote_Addr: 62.136.246.89 Message-Id: From: Bernard Boudet Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I think my installation is botched, but I can't figure out what is wrong except that paths seem to be screwed up somehow. This is Debian 2.2 stable with 2.2.17 kernel, and X v4.0.2 compiled from source. Sorry, I don't know how to tell what revision of GNOME, but I downloaded and installed it yesterday using `lynx -source http://go- gnome.com/ | sh', and I chose the full-install option. The same problems were also happening with GNOME installed from Debian 2.2, which is why I upgraded. The GNOME desktop fires up with GNU Midnight Commander ok, but " Commands | Edit mime types..." does nothing. The Gnome Help Browser also starts up, but says "Could not load default TOC page". The main panel at the bottom of the screen, only shows 3 buttons - Menu, Log out and Lock screen. These are all white text on a black background. There is nothing else on the main panel. Clicking Menu pops up a menu with Programs, Favorites, Applets, Debian menus, Run..., Panel, and Log out. The Applets item has no submenus. At the top of the screen there is a bar with Programs, Favorites, Settings and Desktop. The Applets item under Programs has no submenu, and clicking it does nothing. The Settings menu is empty. Clicking "Programs | Debian menus | Apps | System | Gnome Control Center" does nothing. Running gnomecc from the command line gives this error: ~$ gnomecc ** WARNING **: No configuration applets were found. This probably means that either the control-center or GNOME is incorrectly installed. ~$ locate applet | wc --lines 1120 I've tried `rm -rf ~/.gnome*' but this does not help. I have the files .xinitrc and .xsession in my home directory: #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xinitrc # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xsession # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session The problems are the same, whether starting my session with startx or from gdm. Before uprading GNOME, I used xdm and the problem happened with that too. I have set the Debian default window manager to Enlightenment, but but X session runs as Sawfish (this is only a minor annoyance, I know I could fix it with gnomecc if it would run). ~$ /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/enlightenment /usr/bin/enlightenment - priority 50 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/enlightenment.1.gz /usr/bin/sawfish - priority 20 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/enlightenment. Please ask for specific info if I missed something, but otherwise - Help! From Michael.Garza@getronics.com Wed Mar 28 05:15:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from res02wnt246.corp.wang.com (fwus1.us.getronics.com [192.84.63.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528E2E034 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by res02wnt246.corp.wang.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garza, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Gnome through x windows? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I'm relatively new to Unix, and I need some help before I start on this task.. I would like to know if Gnome can be pulled up through an x server for Windows such as Exceed? I have a Sun Netra X1 at home with no framebuffer and I'd like to have an x desktop pulled up. We use HPOV pulled through Exceed at work, and I know this is possible with plain x windows, but I'm not sure if Gnome will work. Also any help with getting a regular x desktop pulled up would be greatly appreciated. Michael Garza Network Analyst Getronics ICTC From RiNilsson@keyww.com Tue Mar 27 10:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gossip.keyww.com (exchange-key.bmi.net [207.173.63.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A722D629 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by Gossip with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:35:11 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Nilsson, Rik" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Invisible panel on LinuxPPC Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For whatever reason, my user-account initial panel in LinuxPPC has become invisible. The user has a background jpg displayed and is using WindowMaker. The panel config includes the defaults plus modem-lites and some application launchers. At each login I am alerted that "...a panel is already running, do you wish to start another?" I have to reply "Yes" and then I get a right-edge vertical panel duplicating the customized configuration. The original panel never becomes visible. For this session then, the panel functions normally. I've seen answers to other posts saying to delete .gnome directories. No matter how many times I remove all the user's Gnome "."-directories it always does this on subsequent logins to this user account. If I terminate the panel job with "kill -9 id", the panel restarts but is still not visible. Typing "panel" at the prompt of course, always results in the above alert that there is already... My root account and another "guest" account do not exhibit this behavior, so I am inclined to think the main Gnome program is not dysfunctional, that the problem is in the user directory. Before I remove and re-create the entire user directory, I thought I'd ask if there is something I am overlooking. Rik From mike@cyborg-group.com Mon Mar 26 07:26:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D282DBCA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14hUYz-0006zE-00 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:49:29 +0100 Subject: ftp server access From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102271933.UAA11952@email.enst.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 13:31:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ther last time I tried to accessthe gnome ftp server I was refused access. It stated that my IP address and my e-mail address did not match so refused connection I am on an ADSL link with a an e-mail address off hosted web space so obviously my e-mail address will not match. Is there any way round this From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0852CF1B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9ZuW03130; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:20:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ADE2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nfS03175; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From dmcglone@ameritech.net Wed Feb 28 21:12:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DB2CF0A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net ([64.108.97.88]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010301021159.THVD1581.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@mailhost.col.ameritech.net> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:11:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:10:49 -0500 From: David McGlone To: Gnome Message-ID: <20010228211049.A2535@buddy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 594 Lines: 19 Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello everyone, I downloaded the C/C++ compiler and I need to know what the include path is, and the library path for the compiler to be able to compile. I belive the library files would be /usr/lib, and the include would be /usr/include. I am programming in C++ using GCC on RH 7. can anyone help me out here? TIA -- =================================================================== David M. ICQ: 96210352 AIM: dmcg295308 ==================================================================== /usr/games/fortune: The way some people find fault, you'd think there is some kind of reward From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Wed Feb 28 22:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994962BB01 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (tot-tl.proxy.aol.com [152.163.207.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA03885 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9F82B9.ipt.aol.com [172.159.130.185]) by tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f213DPE08395 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9DBC27.6060400@seznam.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:04:07 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list Subject: gnome-utils-1.3.1 undeclared variable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
I'm trying to make  gnome-utils-1.3.1  under  debian linux potato 2.2rev2.
Compiler reports undeclared variable "PIXEL_SIZE_STANDARD"  in "gdictsrc/gdict-applet.c" .
Do you have any suggestions where the variable should be declared?  It is used only once in whole gdict utility.
Thanks for any help   -SCUD
P.S. I have found no bug reports!???
From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:37:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FCA2E32D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:37:43 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B6B7BF0:01C0A209] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it throws this error: gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! A downloaded file could not be unzipped. If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 01:29:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982352BC8C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:29:24 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: jacksondorado@hotmail.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 06:29:24.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[F58C95C0:01C0A218] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I got the helix-installer to run but then the install crashed with these errors: Installer extracted into/var/cache/helix-install/installer. Running with arguments: Distribution: Red Hat Linux 6.2 ## gtkhtml-WARNING **: Couldn't find keybinding file -- /gnome/share/gtkhtml/keybin dingsrc.emacs ** WARNING **: Fatal transfer error: Transfer failed: Data connection: Bad file descriptor. gnome_segv: error in loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: NO such file or directory ==>Cleaning up temporary files...done. ## I have tried to install GNOME from the 6.2 CD but always got errors that many, many '.so' files were missing. I thought installing over the internet would be different :( thanks for any help. >From: "jackson dorado" >To: gnome-list@gnome.org >Subject: installer error >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 > >Hi, > >I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red >Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it >throws this error: > >gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! >A downloaded file could not be unzipped. > > >If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. > >thanks. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >gnome-list mailing list >gnome-list@gnome.org >http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Thu Mar 1 08:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766272BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust212.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.212]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12818 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:49:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A9E5744.EAD43F5F@linuxfreak.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:56 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME and BIOS problems References: <200102221853.f1MIru601731@aarongraham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Aaron Graham wrote: > > Whenever I tweak a BIOS setting, GNOME reverts to some set of default > settings, and I can't change certain attributes in the Control Center. > For instance, I can't switch to certain Sawfish window manager themes, > such as Gleam and CoolClean (although I can switch to microGUI and > gtk), my panel pager applet suddenly switches back to 1 workspace, and > I can't save session settings. This happens every time I tweak the > BIOS. > > Yesterday everything spontaneously began to work again, but then I had > to change another bios setting this morning (I just got a new memory > module). > > I have a TYAN Trinity 400 motherboard and Kingston 256MB mem module, > along with a 933 MHz pentium III, all designed for a 133 MHz memory > bus speed. > > Any experts out there? > Thanks, > Aaron It's March 1st. Not April 1st. From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:09:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B22E63C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14YVrq-000869-00; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Subject: Re: tasklist applet crashes with BadDrawable From: jacob berkman To: stas.orel@mailcity.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102280008.f1S08w927897@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Feb 2001 00:17:48 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote: > tasklist applet crashes in function tasklist_icon_check_x() when calling > gdk_image_get() (tasklist_icon.c:279). The error message is: > Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) > serial 2081 error_code 9 request_code 63 minor_code 0. which version of the tasklist are you running? you can get this from the about box of the tasklist. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From fejj@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E92E73C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.prv ([141.154.95.3]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01569; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:43:37 -0500 Subject: Re: cronosII mail client for Gnome From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Jeffry Smith Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <01022622412700.05334@buddy> <20010227004255.A3977@flux> <20010227000347.A82783@superhero.org> <20010227112146.500D996D98@sender.ngi.de> <983301480.9193.3.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983465127.24220.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Feb 2001 17:17:57 -0500, Jeffry Smith wrote: > A few questions: > Jeffrey Stedfast said: > > Actually, Evolution *is* a collection of smaller applications working > > together. ;-) > > > > The Evolution Addressbook will be replacing the GNOME Addressbook and > > the Evolution Calendar will be replacing the GNOME Calendar. > > Will they run without the Evolution shell (i.e. as stand-alone apps linke > Gnome Addressbook & Gnome Calendar)? no, they need to be embedded. You could probably write a simple shell to embed the calendar or the addressbook to make it "standalone" though. > > > > > Evolution itself is just a shell that embeds the addressbook, the > > calendar, and the mailer and allows them to share information much > > better than any other set of similar applications can. > > Also, will the mail client run stand-alone? And does it support mh style mail > folders? same as above. Yes, it supports MH style mailboxes. Jeff From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Thu Mar 1 12:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3D2E5A1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148B17A91; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from stud.ntnu.no (dusken4.samfundet.no [129.241.93.42]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E517A1E; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3A9E89E0.9030707@stud.ntnu.no> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Wigtil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010219 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chadoliver14@netscape.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: C++ Language Binding References: <44C6AFA5.29C0E462.6AED4586@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion chadoliver14@netscape.net wrote: > I'm trying to learn more about using C++ to develop GNOME applications. I noticed gtk-- and Inti::Gtk both had nice features. I'm wondering if there is a C++ binding which is emerging from the crowd and has more support from the GNOME community? Gtk-- (and Gnome--) will be included with Gnome 1.4, and as such be the "official" binding. Inti will be a framework for C++ on Linux (much broader scope than Gtk--, and maybe Linux only), but it is still in development. I'd go for Gtk-- if I were you. -- Hĺvard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrapé un Fraggle! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 1 14:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3A2DBB8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f21JL2j08931 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel Message-ID: <20010301192101.A8842@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil>; from jthill@microlink.net on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 or thereabouts, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by using > the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed to delete the > gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the screen that has the > Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope this > does not involve a reinstall of gnome. Laugh, no. :) Right-click on the menu panel (the one you have at the top) and select panel->create panel->edge panel (or whatever type you prefer). You may have to add individual applets and launchers back onto it. I'm not sure. If you ever get to the stage where you delete -all- your panels, btw (and you really have to try hard to achieve this), you can restart by typing "panel" into a terminal. It will come back happily. Telsa From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 16:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43E42BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7124 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13085 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21LYI121232 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from the .gnome.old to the new .gnome For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't forget to verify the ownership/perms.) HTH Barthel P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . . Yay!) -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From murphy@erim-int.com Thu Mar 1 16:58:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csd10g.erim-int.com (csd10g.erim-int.com [155.102.129.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2BD2DEDC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from erim-int.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by csd10g.erim-int.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:51:14 -0500 From: Sean Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel References: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. All you really need to do is log in as root, open a terminal window, type "panel &" (without the quotes) and then choose to save your session when you logout. That will cause gnome to remember that user root wants a panel running and will put when up each time you log in as root. As usual, you should try to avoid logging in as root as much as possible. You could always log in as yourself, then 'su' to root, or use something like sudo to give yourself root power only when needed. Logging in as root is usually equivalent to using a chainsaw as a can opener. Sure it might work Ok, but when something goes wrong, it goes REALLY wrong! "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > > and desk guide)). > > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. > > The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename > ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the > default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from > the .gnome.old to the new .gnome > > For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user > panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't > forget to verify the ownership/perms.) > > HTH > > Barthel > > P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if > something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar > my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on > this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . > . Yay!) > -- > ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 > Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! > > Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 17:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F30D2BA83 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4010 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26705 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21MUD121997; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012230.f21MUD121997@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list Cc: murphy@erim-int.com In-Reply-To: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 1 Mar, Sean Murphy wrote: > Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting > you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. Who said "DELETE"???? Not I. I said "RENAME"--which preserves those mods, ready for restoration. BTW--My advice, works for restoring the DEFAULT SETUP for *any* user. I just phrased my response for the specifics of the case--and chose to only respond to the question asked. (I'm a sudo'er, myself, Slacker that I am.) I really didn't want to start the "logging in as root is unwise" vs. "I *do* know what I'm doing and I want to login as root" thread again. > "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: >> The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename >> ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the >> default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from >> the .gnome.old to the new .gnome >> >> For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user >> panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't >> forget to verify the ownership/perms.) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From federico@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 19:20:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4A2DDF7; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08505; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Message-Id: <200103020031.SAA08505@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-1.4-list@gnome.org Subject: gdk-pixbuf 0.10.0 is released X-JWZ: To a database person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or something like that. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of hot entomological squishing action, Version 0.10.0 of the gdk-pixbuf library, code named "dance the ghost with me", has been released. This release includes a number of important bug fixes. * Availability ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz * Changes in this release: - New XBM file loader (John). - We now have our own poor man's implementation of XParseColor() so that the XPM loader can work for both GdK and Xlib (John). - Completely re-written PNM loader (Jeff, Pavel, Frédéric). - Memory leak fixes for the PNG loader (Iain). - Fixes to gdk-pixbuf.m4 (Mathieu). - Updates for the new gdk_image_get() API return value (Ramiro). - Offset computation fixes for the compositing functions (Larry, Mitsuru, Helmethead, Federico). - Compositing fixes for greater accuracy (Federico). - Fixed the GDK_PIXBUF_LIBS output so that image libraries are not linked with programs that use gdk-pixbuf (Miguel). Love, Federico From jh0u@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f187.hotmail.com [216.32.181.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CC2BB19 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:20:00 -0800 Received: from 209.179.211.226 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:19:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.211.226] From: "JJ D." To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: wt@!#$%!!! helix-code/gnome installation Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:19:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 01:20:00.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6721E40:01C0A2B6] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't seem to install helix-gnome/code or whatever... I am using debian sid and everytime I use apt-get install task-helix-gnome it complains that it's broken since it can't install gnome-games..so I installed gnome-games..but helix-gnome still doesn't want to install..tried to install red-carpet still the same issues..broken packages..what gives? I tried both ximian and helixcode sites in my /apt/sources.list with exactly the same result.. nothing..I know that gnome1.4beta will be out soon so is this the reason nothing's working anymore until gnome1.4 officially launches? the gnome-site doesn't seem to help...not unless you are living in an alternate timeline whose year is still 1999. consequently, ximian's website gives no peep/news that there is some problems.. or is it just me? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lowlifeboy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:28:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f171.hotmail.com [216.32.181.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99702CFED for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:28:40 -0800 Received: from 208.63.246.199 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.63.246.199] From: "Low Lifeboy" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse clicks and actions Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:28:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E9C7FE0:01C0A2C0] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to figure out. Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on it and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title bar or the borders for the window to come up to focus. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 1 22:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A413C2BD8A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2234nh12078; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:07:06 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Low Lifeboy Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mouse clicks and actions Message-ID: <20010301220706.A29088@sean.aweplay> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from lowlifeboy@hotmail.com on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 21:28:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Go into the control panel, select Sawfish properties -> Focus Behaviour, then turn on the 'Raise when Focused' option. That'll get you set up. I'd also browse thru the other features, and get everything tweaked just the way you like it. On 2001.03.01 21:28:40 -0500 Low Lifeboy wrote: > Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to > > figure out. > Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on > it > and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title > bar > or the borders for the window to come up to focus. > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thank you. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From cleek@csc.smsu.edu Fri Mar 2 03:40:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csc.smsu.edu (csc.smsu.edu [146.7.45.212]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542582BF9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cleek@localhost) by csc.smsu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f228eWi39128 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cleek@csc.smsu.edu) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:32 -0600 (CST) From: Billie Cleek To: Subject: Helix Audio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion A while back I was corresponding with someone that was having problems with their sounds in gnome, but I've lost his e-mail address. If you're listening: I think I've come across the solution to your problem. Cleek From tshanno@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Mar 2 08:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org [147.126.239.203]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231BB2BCF7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mc101-151.card.luhs.org (mc101-151.card.luhs.org [147.126.101.151]) by luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26914 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:50:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:13:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas R. Shannon" X-Sender: To: Subject: Evolution and Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm a pretty dedicated pine user but I'm starting to get curious about Evolution. In the last preview release I downloaded, it wasn't immediately evident how to get it to work best with pine. For instance, Evolution seems to want mail folders in separate directories. Pine wants them all collected in ~/Mail or ~/mail. Is there a way to get Evolution to accept all of the mail folders in one directory? Is there a way to import pine addresses? Does anyone know if this stuff is planned? Thanks, Tom ================ Quote of the day for February 28th, 2001 Authority without wisdom is like a heavy ax without an edge, fitter to bruise than polish. - Anne Bradstreet From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 2 09:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52832E721 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA18549 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:12:23 -0800 Message-Id: <200103021412.GAA18549@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:12:37 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Does anyone know how to change the background color of the contacts list in evolution. I don't like bright colors and the white background is blinding with my dark color scheme. Chazz From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 2 12:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF82DBA1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f22HguE01292; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9FDBA0.E6533BB1@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list , "redhat-list@redhat.com" Subject: [Fwd: Re: no gui [#28630301]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is a GUI for Producer 8.5 on Windows. They haven't taken that away. But they found most Linux users don't want or need a GUI. -------------- this is what I got from real folks..i asked why all of a sudden no GUI for realproducer.. well linux users is this true? :)LOL granted there is as certain geekage percentage myself sometimes included that "enjoys" the command line.....but......for something that tends to be somewhat complicated a gui is certainly a nice alternative.......how many use this product i wonder..... just wondering lee From lauris@ximian.com Fri Mar 2 15:12:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D002E7EA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl1100.estpak.ee [213.168.29.81]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19055; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:13:49 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200103022013.WAA19055@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: 0.26.pre breaks old apps From: Lauris Kaplinski To: gnome-print@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8 - Preview Release) Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:13:02 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I just discovered that installation from gnome-print-0.26.pre tarball breaks old applications. More specifically it overwrites ${prefix}/share/fontmap file with new version, that older gnome-prints <=0.25 are not able to understand. So applications compiled with previous gnome-print versions will most probably die, complaining of missing default font. This shouldn't create problems, if you upgrade all gnome to 1.4-beta2, but can cause problems for aprtial upgrades. This is fixed in stable CVS branch gnome-1-4-branch and will be fixed in next release by renaming the main file to fontmap2. Meanwhile you can get around that problem, by: Creating copy of your fontmap before installation and replacing the new one with the old. The new gnome-print can read old fontmap. If your fontmap is gnome, grab a tarball of gnome-print-0.25, compile it, and run font installation script (you do not have to re-install the old gnome-print). perl run-gnome-font-install gnome-font-install ${datadir} ${srcdir} datadir is /usr/share for redhat-like systems, srcdir is the topmost source directory. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Sat Mar 3 03:15:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E62BCC8 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23578; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> To: David Hampton Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:00 PST." <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com>, David Hampton writes: >I'm trying to run an application that fails with the message: > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication >protocols > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. >Stepping through the application with gdb shows that this error message >comes from the routine gnome_init_with_popt_tale. I've occasionally >seen this message from other progrms too. What causes this error and >how can I fix it. Thanks. Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? cp ~/.Xauthority ~ John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From root@gruyere.ath.cx Sat Mar 3 05:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2FF2BAB1 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f23Acbg11871; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103031038.f23Acbg11871@gruyere.ath.cx> To: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Cc: David Hampton , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-Reply-To: Message from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 EST." <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John wrote : > cp ~/.Xauthority ~ Ach.. Does nobody know how to share a Magic Cookie ? So let me teach it to you so.. user@localhost > touch ~/.rhosts && echo "$HOST root" >> ~/.rhosts root@localhost # xauth extract - $HOST:0 | rsh $HOST -l user xauth merge - if $HOST:0 is not your display but :0 is, then change it in the last line.. You could just put it in the /root/.login file (or whatever your have..) to do it automagically when you do "su -" I think this is very useful when you are, for example, in a university and you work with another guy.. Or when you have different account on different box with different ~. Dams -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From jmwhite@mail.hot1.net Sat Mar 3 17:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.hot1.net (mail.hot1.net [12.5.166.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557902BC79 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (64-217-53-85.ded.swbell.net [64.217.53.85]) by newman.hot1.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f23MY8a75132 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:34:09 -0600 (CST) From: Mike White Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:36:09 GMT Message-ID: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Subject: no gnome To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After=20 hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds an= d=20 crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per= =20 the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I=20 decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order=20 that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and = the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no = Gnome in the session drop down list. Anyone know how I can get it back? From mjbjr@beaudesign.com Sat Mar 3 17:46:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (dsl-64-32-0-230.hwrp.loop.net [64.32.0.230]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76122BD0E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mjbjr@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00781 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: mjbjr owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: mjbjr@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: command line reset? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how would I do that? Thank you. - Martin J. Brown, Jr. - - mjbjr@beaudesign.com - PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91102BDAD for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NR5Y21307 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no gnome Message-ID: <20010303232705.C20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain>; from jmwhite@mail.hot1.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 or thereabouts, Mike White wrote: > I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After > hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds and > crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per > the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I > decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order > that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and > the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no > Gnome in the session drop down list. > > Anyone know how I can get it back? You don't say what distribution you are using, but "no Gnome in the drop-down list for gdm" sounds like Mandrake. Suggestions on support@ximian.com and IRC list were to try one of these: (a) as root, chmod 755 /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Gnome (b) grab the updated gdm package for Mandrake at http://primates.ximian.com/~peter/gdm-2.0beta4-22mdk_helix_10.i586.rpm and install it. If it's not Mandrake, however, I suspect these won't work :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:39:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138732DC67 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NgpS21330 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjbjr@beaudesign.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 or thereabouts, mjbjr@beaudesign.com wrote: > I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several > gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the > pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing > everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how > would I do that? You would run 'top' and look for what is eating the CPU and so on. (Be careful assessing what's using the memory: you have to subtract the amount listed in 'share' to get an accurate assessment.) Then hit 'k' and type in the process number for it. k is kill Do not believe anyone who tells you it stands for 'keep running' and is thus harmless :) If you run top as root, you can kill practically anything. There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Shoot them one by one and wait and see whether X, and thus Gnome wakes up. Obviously, you don't want to shoot X or gnome-session itself, unless you've run out of other things to kill :) panel, gnome-terminal, xmms, netscape (_particularly_ netscape :)), gmc, big word processors and anything saying "_applet" are all candidates for this pruning. Anything ending in 'd' is likely to be a daemon. Don't go randomly killing daemons off if you're not sure what they are. There are some which are not supposed to be killable, but do you want to be the one to discover they are? A similar example is the font server, xfs. I wouldn't kill that unless I was really desperate and about to hit control-alt-delete anyway, either. To get out of 'top', hit 'q' for 'quit' (and it's 'h' for help). There is a much nicer graphical version, gtop, but if X has locked up, it's not going to help :) Telsa From keichwa@gmx.net Sun Mar 4 01:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from myway.myway.de (unknown [212.204.66.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8E72D252 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4087.nefkom.de [212.114.164.87]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15055; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:38:16 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 0CD55A5A03; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:37:49 +0100 (CET) To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> From: Karl Eichwalder Date: 04 Mar 2001 07:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Telsa Gwynne writes: > If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to > start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's > any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk > to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, > will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Yes, that's a nice feature. I just managed to iconify the menu panel and neither the foot panel nor sawfish controlled menus allowed me to deiconify it (it's cleverly hidden ;) ). Killing the panel revived the menu panel again. Wondering whether there's a more user friendly way? Maybe, this qualifies as a gnome-core bug? -- work : ke@suse.de | ,__o : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | _-\_<, home : keichwa@gmx.net | (*)/'(*) From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 06:19:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824C32D026 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZWXb-0001rL-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:08 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24BJ6W34244 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:06 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Barnfather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk paul.barnfather@vatechuk.com | | __ http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk . | o--o-... 75TS o'~o... 750SS From francesc@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk Sun Mar 4 08:14:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC642DE1E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-276.hodad.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.161.20] helo=vilarino.fsnet.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14ZYKv-00043F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:25 +0000 From: Francesc Vilarino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem to login Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am quite new in all this Linux stuff, and I hope you can give me a clue on how to solve this problem I have. I am using Suse Linux 7.0, and a few days ago I downloaded the latest Gnome from the Helix site. The problem I have (and that I already had with my previous version of Gnome) is that, when I start up my PC, I need to log in twice (I go directly to init level 3 at boot time). The first time I enter my login and password I see very briefly the screen with all the boot up information, and I suddenly go back to the login screen. After entering my login and password a second time everything's ok. Has anyone already experienced this problem? If so, please let me know how to solve it. Thanks in advance to you all. Regards, Francesc From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 4 09:44:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC52D436 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24EiHS20892 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gnome Version Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is installed on a box? For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. Thanks Sean From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 4 10:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (93-MADR-X55.libre.retevision.es [62.83.16.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6722BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01090 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:42:51PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). GSR From jeff@tick.tcsn.net Thu Mar 1 18:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from thoth.trefftzs.org (ppp160-pm-p5.tcsn.net [207.114.143.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F12E407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from outmail.tcsn.net (jeff@localhost) by thoth.trefftzs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03215 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 Message-Id: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> X-Authentication-Warning: thoth.trefftzs.org: jeff owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-list Subject: Galeon Mailing List? Reply-To: Jeff Trefftzs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 From: Jeff Trefftzs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. -- --Jeff Jeff Trefftzs http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery From mcompengr@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 00:52:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B22BA9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-209.245.7.181.Denver1.Level3.net [209.245.7.181]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11373 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: mcompengr@earthlink.net Message-ID: <3A9F34FF.31AC06CE@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:51:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: titeInhibit ignored by gnome-terminal ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, There's nothing worse than problem terminal settings. I shy away from X resourse solutions (in general too) because the final value accepted is in the executable, and can not be overidden, if set there. My approach is in the stty/tset and /etc/termcap area. The latter is the easiest for me. In an emergency I setenv TERM to a non-existant value which hopefuly causes a fallback to some default. If you look in /etc/termcap you should see strings beginning in column one that are followed by a |. These are the available values for the TERM env. Following the name is a bunch of parameter/setting pairs. The parameter name begins with a :. Now, the :te parameter is the one we DON'T want, in order to inhibit that flipping. You can have your gnome-terminal invoked with the --login flag, and then put setenv TERM in your .login file. Or, type setenv TERM as the first command. This is for csh/bash/tcsh etc. Korn syntax differs (no setenv). ---David > I have XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true > > in my .Xdefaults. Nonetheless, while xterm pays attention to this, > gnome-terminal doesn't. (I'm using gnome-terminal 1.1.5.) > > (Background FYI: titeInhibit controls whether apps such as less, more, > vi, mutt, and so forth that ask to use the xterm's alternate screen > actually flip to that screen or not. More practically, this means it > controls whether quitting vi, less, etc. leaves you looking at what > you were looking at a moment ago or what you were looking at before > you started that app. > > Tia for any pointers. > > -- > Jeff Abrahamson > 610/270-4845 > abrahj01@molbio.sbphrd.com > > (home email is jeff_abrahamson@purple.com) > From mvdwege@wanadoo.nl Sun Mar 4 02:28:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 669922BD0E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28401 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.244) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from drebbelstraat20 ([127.0.0.1]) by drebbelstraat20 with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZSvz-0002yw-00 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:28:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:27:59 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: gdm locks up my keyboard? Message-Id: <20010304082759.24c182c3.mvdwege@wanadoo.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Folks, I recently updated my sources.list to Ximian Gnome 1.4beta. After upgrading my system shows some weird behaviour at login: when I attempt to login using gdm straight after a reboot, my keyboard is *totally* dead. I mean totally, I can't switch to a virtual terminal, I can't kill X, and I can't do a Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. Thankfully I can reboot the system from gdm. The only way to avoid this is to to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 just while gdm comes up during boot, login at the console, disable gdm and start it again. It continues functioning normally from that point, so it is only a minor irrtation (as I don't reboot often), but I still wonder: is this a bug in gdm or do I have something misconfigured? BTW minor detail: gdm starts first on console #2, upon restart it runs on console #7. Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Distribution Version: testing/unstable Operating System Release: 2.2.18 Mart -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sun Mar 4 11:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24D2D185 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24GFRh26653; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:17:55 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Hartnett Cc: "gnome-list @ gnome . org" Subject: Re: Gnome Version Message-ID: <20010304111755.C23402@sean.aweplay> References: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net>; from tardis@mediaone.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:44:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'd say that'd be difficult, since you could, for example, any upgrade certain parts of GNOME to 1.4 beta - for example, I'm mostly running beta1, with a couple packages from beta2 installed. Your best bet is to look at all the packages for gnome installed (most,but not all, of which have 'gnome' in their name - so on an RPM system, rpm -qa | grep gnome would give you a list, with package versions). You could compare this to a list of beta packages, and see what is beta, and what is not. On 2001.03.04 09:44:13 -0500 Hartnett wrote: > >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the > GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is > installed on a box? > > For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see > somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. > > > Thanks > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877C2BC87 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24GxEF16053; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:59:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103041659.f24GxEF16053@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Galeon Mailing List? From: Stephen "M." Williams To: Jeff Trefftzs Cc: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:58:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, The Galeon mailing list can be found @: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galeon-user I've been running Galeon here with little to no problems at all for a while. Shoot me an e-mail and maybe I can help. Steve On 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week > or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I > dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost > unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my > complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the > proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) > > Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me > what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so > unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my > galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page > outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the > referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 > Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . > attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my > pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) > > Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join > it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. > > > -- > --Jeff > Jeff Trefftzs > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery > http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 12:23:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2456F2BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA30826; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:22:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:23:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1D72DEB8 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA31062; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041804.NAA31062@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:05:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Also, I just realized who you were, Paul (your e-mail sounded familiar) -- I have been referring to your website to get gnome compiled on solaris 2.6 (in a non-root account) for the last year or so. It's a great guide for those who want to get gnome compiled on solaris, take a look: http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/index.html -Troy I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From pnelson@neatech.com Sun Mar 4 15:35:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from washington.neatech.com (unknown [207.93.69.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF92D2E2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by WASHINGTON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> From: Patrick Nelson To: "Gnome-List (E-mail)" Subject: Whats all in RC? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From plazma803@home.com Sun Mar 4 16:15:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493292CE31 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com ([65.1.52.32]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304211531.PPTS21905.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:15:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? From: Josh McGee To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List "(E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:14:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983740467.24996.0.camel@cc342141-b.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Red-carpet is an package update tool that replaces ximians(aka:helix-code) update tool On 04 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800, Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From michaelv@cox-internet.com Sun Mar 4 17:08:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from europa.cox-internet.com (europa-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D742DF21 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:07:14 -0600 Subject: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:12:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. Thanks in advance. From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 22:54:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512A2BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA147020; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial099.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.99]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA71010; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:44 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? Message-ID: <20010304225444.A764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON>; from pnelson@neatech.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 15:35:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It depends. It only works with Debian and Red Hat at this point. It updated smoothly for my recently installed RH 6.2 system. Others have had problems. Read about it here: http://www.ximian.com/apps/redcarpet.php3 Ask more questions and check out the message archives here: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/red-carpet Brett On 2001.03.04 15:35 Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release > or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 23:11:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC92BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (garnet2-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.2]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA84998; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:17 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial676.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.35.66]) by garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30022; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 Message-ID: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; from michaelv@cox-internet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:12:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 37 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What Lycos found: 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > Thanks in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- From root@gruyere.ath.cx Mon Mar 5 01:20:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D02D371 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f256Lif30276; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200103050621.f256Lif30276@gruyere.ath.cx> To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Brett Castleberry of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 EST." <20010304231049.C764@monachos> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion As far as i can remember there was a .spec file in the gdk-pixbuf tar.gz (or at least a spec.in file..) So.. let's build yourself your own rpm package. if a spec file is present then "rpm --tb gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz" will build 2 i386.rpm (gdk-pixbuf & devel) if a spec.in file is present then tar zxvf the archive, ./configure will build the spec file from spec.in file. Copy the tar.gz in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES and rpm -ba will build .src.rpm and .i386.rpm packages (-bb if you just want i386) for the rest.. "man rpm" Dams bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu wrote : > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From michael.boeni@artificial-life.com Mon Mar 5 06:14:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from srvzhex1.artificial-life.com (unknown [212.243.161.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F002E04E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by SRVZHEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: <0FA6AB953DC0D311A07B00508BAE1B01560645@SRVZHEX1> From: "Boeni, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Keyboard swiss-german Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all I use Gnome (Ximian) on my Thinkpad. I would like to use the swiss-german keyboard; the mapping works perfectly (I edited X86conf) but I have a problem with using the special keys like "@". I would like to set the ALTGR key to use to get these special characters - but I have not really worked out how to set this correclty. Please advise. Cheers, Michael From cohendr@yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 15:11:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web3202.mail.yahoo.com (web3202.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0838F2D37A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.186.194.129] by web3202.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:11:38 PST Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Cohen Reply-To: catman@ascensionet.com Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk, tcarter@princeton.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Troy and Paul, It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. >From reading archives of the comp.programming.threads newsgroup, Solaris 7 and 8 both require patches to the operating system to prevent deadlocks with recursive mutexes. It also sounds like the patches may not completely fix the problems. Eazel has no desire to resolve this problem for Gnome 1.4 (although, I would imagine they would accept patches). All they care about is if it works in Solaris 8 (which is a reference platform). See bug 7007 in eazel's bugzilla for more information (http://bugzilla.eazel.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7007). - Dan Cohen Excerpt from Troy Carter: > Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in > gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong > about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess > Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Excerpt from Troy Carter: > I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. > The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive > mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to > use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are > being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have > got poking around mailing list archives. Paul Barnfather wrote: > PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > > It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, > but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > > Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flinstone99999@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 00:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (smtp-tor.internetconnect.net [209.191.75.194]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF322CA96 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com ([209.191.114.209]) by smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17264 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA324DD.357059C0@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:32:13 -0800 From: David Hampton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-init fails References: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > > Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? Yes. I su'd to root in an xterm window and tried to run the program. What confuses me is that the exact same executable does or does not produce this message depending upon the name under which it was invoked. When invoked as red-carpet (yes, this is red-carpet but I've seen this on other programs) I do not get an error message. When invoked as red-carpet-91, I get an error message. Its the same object file. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 4 21:27 red-carpet->red-carpet-91 -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 2228993 Mar 3 02:55 red-carpet-91 Can someone explain this behavior? Thanks. David From misiek@pld.ORG.PL Mon Mar 5 05:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.210.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79EF2D026 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (Postfix+IPv6, from userid 1002) id 9AF7AC8002; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miskiewicz To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnome-core && panel crash Message-ID: <20010305111135.A30562@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-URL: http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ X-Operating-System: Linux dark 4.0.20 #119 Tue Jan 16 12:21:53 MET 2001 i986 pld Organization: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution Team Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Problem with panel from gnome-core 1.3.1: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 #3 0x407b6948 in tasklist_draw_task (task=0x816f1e0, rect=0xbffff000) at tasklist_applet.c:478 #4 0x407b81f4 in cb_expose_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414, tasklist=0x81a8838) at tasklist_applet.c:1220 #5 0x402bb378 in gtk_marshal_BOOL__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x407b8118 , func_data=0x81a8838, args=0xbffff124) at gtkmarshal.c:28 #6 0x402ef3fe in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x8179d60, signal=0xbffff0d8, object=0x81a02d0, params=0xbffff124, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917 #7 0x402ee725 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32, params=0xbffff124) at gtksignal.c:1477 #8 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32) at gtksignal.c:552 #9 0x40329c49 in gtk_widget_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414) at gtkwidget.c:2864 #10 0x4032dba4 in gtk_widget_real_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:4585 #11 0x402bb6d8 in gtk_marshal_NONE__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x4032dab4 , func_data=0x0, args=0xbffff4f4) at gtkmarshal.c:193 #12 0x402ee571 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15, params=0xbffff4f4) at gtksignal.c:1440 #13 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15) at gtksignal.c:552 #14 0x40328b59 in gtk_widget_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:2335 #15 0x407b7393 in real_layout_tasklist (tasklist=0x81a8838, call_change_size=135413000) at tasklist_applet.c:774 #16 0x400b296e in g_timeout_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #17 0x400b18d6 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #18 0x400b1ef3 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #19 0x400b20ac in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #20 0x402b95dc in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:524 #21 0x0805dc8e in main (argc=5, argv=0xbffffa2c) at main.c:312 #22 0x405fc2fe in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) frame 1 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 338 width = XmbTextEscapement (fontset, string, strlen(string)); (gdb) frame 2 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 115 label_len = gdk_string_width (tasklist->area->style->font, das_string); (gdb) print task->gwmh_task $1 = (GwmhTask *) 0x814ef08 (gdb) print *task->gwmh_task $2 = {name = 0x0, icon_name = 0x0, gstate = 0, ghints = 0, app_state = WIN_APP_STATE_NONE, focused = 0, iconified = 0, frame_x = 147, frame_y = 13, frame_width = 364, frame_height = 265, win_x = 153, win_y = 32, win_width = 352, win_height = 240, desktop = 3, harea = 0, varea = 0, layer = 0, last_desktop = 0, last_harea = 0, last_varea = 0, last_layer = 0, gdkwindow = 0x817d8d8, gdkframe = 0x815ccf0, datalist = 0x0, xwin = 48234499, xframe = 12594010, sroot = 0x8186580, imask_queued = 0, imask_notify = 0} (gdb) task->gwmh_task-> is NULL. [misiek@arm misiek]$ rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs gtk+ glib gnome-core-1.3.1-1 gnome-libs-1.2.12-3 gtk+-1.2.9-1 glib-1.2.9-1 -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, AM2-6BONE [ PLD GNU/Linux IPv6 ] http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ [ enabled ] From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Mon Mar 5 08:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808F2E0AF for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25Dauo10959; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f25Dau105398; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: GnomeMessageBox Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Question: Is there a possibility to change the message text within a GnomeMessageBox, after it has been created. I didn't find any API call, nor something in the FAQs. Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From darin@eazel.com Mon Mar 5 11:31:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A83B22E078 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:30:21 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:30:58 -0800 Subject: gnome-vfs branch (was Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6?) From: Darin Adler To: Troy Carter , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/4/01 9:23 AM, Troy Carter at tcarter@princeton.edu wrote: > I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). gnome-vfs HEAD is not the newest gnome-vfs source code. You can find the newest code on the stable branch (and the branch used for GNOME 1.4), gnome-vfs-1. > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function > `strip_trailing_whitespace': > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' This error is fixed in the gnome-vfs-1 stable branch, but the fix hasn't been rolled back to HEAD yet. There's a gnome-vfs mailing list at ximian.com that has all the gnome-vfs experts. They don't necessarily read this list. One way to subscribe is to go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/gnome-vfs. -- Darin From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 5 13:13:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049602BB2D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZzSu-000IBU-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:12:23 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f25I0oT51374 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:00:50 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: RE: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:02:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hmph. Seeing as gnome-vfs is pretty fundamental, I guess that means "GNOME 1.4 will not be available on Solaris 2.6/7" :-( That's a pity, but I suppose I have to move with the times. So much for the test compile of GNOME 1.4. Clearly I need to check out the upgrade path to Solaris 8. Man, I _hate_ OS upgrades... >From Dan Cohen: > It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes > in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable > PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced > with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, > both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. From wphewitt@home.com Mon Mar 5 15:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c150135-a.potlnd1.or.home.com [24.7.139.148]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CB2BB98 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.com (IDENT:wphewitt@blowfish [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01183 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 From: "William P. Hewitt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for editing.... I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not a good enough investigator? TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... WPH From keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au Mon Mar 5 18:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au (smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C782CDC3 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dogbert ([134.7.1.238] helo=cs.curtin.edu.au ident=keithmag) by smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #5) id 14a42G-0004VP-00; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:00 +0800 Message-ID: <3AA41B9E.7E174E48@cs.curtin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:02 +0800 From: Russell Keith-Magee Organization: Curtin University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "William P. Hewitt" wrote: > > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... No need to play with config files. Right Click on the Foot menu Select Properties... You should be presented with a set of radio buttons describing whether you want various menus on the main menu, in a sub menu, or off. Select off for the Favourites and Distribution options. I'm not sure how you remove Run though. It's not a regular menu item; if it were, you would be able to right click on it and select an option to remove it. Russ %-) Enjoy, Russ Magee %-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Russell Keith-Magee PhD Research Student School of Computing, Curtin University of Technology email: keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au OR russ.magee@computer.org WWW: http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~keithmag Ph: +61 8 9266 2129 FAX +61 8 9266 2819 ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretending I'm pulling in a TROUT! Am I doing it correctly?? From michaelv@cox-internet.com Mon Mar 5 21:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (unknown [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3F2DBF6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:41:50 -0600 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:46:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is an RPM @ www.rpmfind.net listed as polished but seems to work on RH7 BTW: lycos Ha ! Try www.google.com "Its the best search engine available. Hands down." just my personal Opinion. Thanks for the reply. On 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500, Brett Castleberry wrote: > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > -- > From len@philpot.org Mon Mar 5 21:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC29B2D393 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010306025538.OWZV15172.io@vulcan> for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:55:38 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: A few general questions Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect a few questions for which I can find no answers in the documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This can be very distracting. When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... Related to the previous question, an even better solution would be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do that. Any ideas? Is there any way to get around the split personality of the panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. And while I'm at it... :) This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From jnelson@lexonia.com Mon Mar 5 22:34:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3622BB92 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03475; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Len Philpot Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Len Philpot wrote: The Gnome panel menus and structure are a big pain in the user interface butt. They were worse in previous versions too. > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? I had the same problems with Balsa. Go to gnome.org and get the latest version of Balsa, released just two days ago. It clears up a few problems but there are still significant bugs IMHO. I use Netscape 6 and Pine. Netscape too has bugs but the features outweigh the bugs and are less annoying than Balsa. Actually I'm quite disatisifed with every mail client I've tried but you get what you pay for. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. 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From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 02:21:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0582BB41 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f267LYH01906; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 23:21:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 05 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect > a few questions for which I can find no answers in the > documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. > > > Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic > underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs > in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This > can be very distracting. I'm not sure... I don't see the option at a quick glance. I kinda doubt it... > When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a > way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a > real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty > looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at > 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. > There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they > get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left > alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty smoothly down. > Related to the previous question, an even better solution would > be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default > icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced > by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do > that. Any ideas? You'r not the first to suggest it. It currently isn't possible. > Is there any way to get around the split personality of the > panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and > there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the > current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much > as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which > he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the idea is that then you always have access to everything in that you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd think the user could basicly work with a diff of the menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out what the name of the program is without making a copy of the entry onto the panel. That's just silly. --Ben > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? > > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > > > -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- > ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- > ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cleek@cleekhouse.com Mon Mar 5 15:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from whyrl.cleekhouse.com (c155877-a.sprgfld1.mo.home.com [24.14.179.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3542DDF1 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cleek (helo=localhost) by whyrl.cleekhouse.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14a1vs-0000ZN-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Billie H. Cleek" To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Look in control-center. Turn off "distibution menus" in the menu section of the panel configuration. On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... > > WPH > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From estoy@ver.megared.net.mx Tue Mar 6 12:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (unknown [200.52.208.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC002DFEC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net ([10.21.67.114]) by bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40165 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:38:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from estoy@ver.megared.net.mx) Received: (from vai@localhost) by lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f26IB5111618 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 From: MC_Vai To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling under OpenBSD Message-ID: <20010306121105.A23537@lapurapus.ver.megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have a problem compiling gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (X version 4.0.2). Specifically the gnome-applets-1.2.4.tar.gz package, The actual error point (message) is: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I. -I. - I../intl -I../intl -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" - I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/lib/ gnome-libs/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include - I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSIO N=\""1.2.4"\" -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/in clude/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -c modemlights.c In file included from modemlights.h:21, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:60: field `sc_timo' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:75: field `sc_stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:77: field `sc_npmode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:91: syntax error before `ext_accm' In file included from modemlights.h:22, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:74: field `mode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:86: field `stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:91: fi gmake[3]: *** [modemlights.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anybody have successfully compiled gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (with X 4.0.2)? or tell me know what can I do? It's pretty obvious that the problem is about the OpenBSD net library, but I've not been able to came up with any solution. Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Eduardo. From mike@cyborg-group.com Tue Mar 6 08:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8012BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14aGFN-0007lD-00 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:07:21 +0000 Subject: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is not meant as a flame but I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while evolution is not To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and stable than evolution - so why the choice From garud@mail.eecis.udel.edu Tue Mar 6 14:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8682BB87 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa02385; 6 Mar 2001 14:12 EST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: Radhika Rao To: gnome-list@gnome.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Cc: Chandrashekhar Garud Subject: problem compiling gnome-lib-1.2.8 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to compile gnome for Solaris 7 with gcc version 2.7.2.3 I get the following problem compiling gnome-login-support.c from gnome-lib-1.2.8/zvt.. In file included from gnome-login-support.c:2: /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:354: parse error before `}' It compiles with Sun CC. It seems that gcc that I am using does not compile any source file which includes sys/stropts.h Is there any workaround for this ? Thanks in advance chandra From aross@skyenet.net Tue Mar 6 19:33:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.skyenet.net (smtp.skyenet.net [208.137.1.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF202C8AC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from skyenet.net (IDENT:aross@port139.piqua.idir.net [216.117.46.149]) by smtp.skyenet.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f270ZGP04846; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:32:00 -0500 From: Art Ross Organization: Sinclair Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME crashes for one account Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried several times to bring it back up without success. There were some symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME configuration. Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. Thanks for the assistance. Art From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 23:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669B2BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274B9H04201; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:10:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2001 22:21, you wrote > > > The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large > > (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm > > not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless > > you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty > > smoothly down. > > Well, what was happening was that the icons in a drawer were > getting scaled up to 48x48. Apparently, you can't display an > icon at its _actual_ size if that's different from the size > that's "supposed" to be used (I guess). I was trying to use a > 16x16 icon in the drawer, since there's no need for anything > bigger. However, I finally gave up and used a 48x48 at its > actual size. It looks better (obviously) that a smaller one > scaled up, but it's still ugly to me in that it's about 4x too > big. Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > It seems there's no end to how big interface objects have/will > become in gnome. I'd much rather give the extra screen real > estate to the client area of a window rather than all widgets > surrounding it. Otherwise, you gain nothing with higher > resolution and larger screen sizes - Everything just gets bigger. I agree that a lot of things in Gnome are bigger than they need to be... I'm not completely sure what you mean... > Is it possible to create a transparent icon? Transparent icons show up as transparent... why? > > > I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's > > not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the > > idea is that then you always have access to everything in that > > you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd > > think the user could basicly work with a diff of the > > menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the > > current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive > > for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out > > what the name of the program is without making a copy of the > > entry onto the panel. That's just silly. > > My opinion is that if it's your "stuff", you should have the > freedom to blow it away if you're not careful :) Yep... > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > should have an impact on anyone else. For example, CDE on > Solaris: log in as root and delete all the front panel icons and > such. Then log in as someone else and they're still there (for > them). The reverse also holds true. That's how it should be, > IMO. root should really have no influence on any other user's > interface, unless it's set up in /etc/skel as a *initial > default*. If you really want to clamp down, just chmod away > their permissions to do anything, but that's not real fair. This sounds like a better behavior. What do other people think? Why is the behavior as it is? I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? --Ben From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 7 06:56:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EBC2DC4D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax59-191.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.224.191]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Bu7H04729 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:56:07 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6592EC48; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions Message-ID: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu>; from bfrantzdale@hmc.edu on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:10:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same property dialogues as panels... Including size. > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > should have an impact on anyone else. That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Is Murphy's Law constitutional? From mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Wed Mar 7 07:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx.tellabs.fi (proxy.tellabs.fi [193.65.253.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923B52C89F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (mxdk.dk.tellabs.com [172.19.74.16]) by mx.tellabs.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00655 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:51:02 +0200 (EET) From: mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23340 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:51:02 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:45:56 +0100" ;Modification-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:55 +0100" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have made a simple script that loads a picture from the net and want to place it as a background picture for gnome... Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome update the picture it has as background?? I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut it down... How can I update the background image without that hastle?? And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular intervals, but have found no such thing...) - Mads Randstoft From cmevoli@afsa.com Wed Mar 7 09:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E52DF12 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA06215 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:20:16 -0800 Message-Id: <200103071420.GAA06215@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:20:20 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Art Ross Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME crashes for one account References: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem once... try moving your ~/.gnome/session file to ~/.gnome/session.bak. Then you should get gnome to come up with default session. Afterwards, you can selectively move settings from the session.bak to the new session file that gnome creates. Make sure that after removing your session file, you logout of gnome properly and check the box for saving settings. Art Ross wrote: > Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried > several times to bring it back up without success. There were some > symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into > runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would > begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start > GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start > at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it > isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME > configuration. > Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. > Thanks for the assistance. > Art > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Wed Mar 7 09:45:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4A2BD60 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GNHAV9T5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:21 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVTZFL; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14afBV-0000It-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: window manager Message-ID: <20010307094501.H29825@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. I'm running Ximian Gnome with Sawmill. Currently when I go into the control panel, it says that Sawmill is not running, but it obviously is. Is this a known problem with a fix? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:06:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3B2E18F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:07:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:07:27 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:17:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9412BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307121807.024ff018@www.apt302.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113D42E245 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahn0-000480-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? Message-ID: <20010307183154.B15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mads.randstoft@tellabs.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100, mads.randstoft@tellabs.com wrote: > Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome > update the picture it has as background?? > > I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" > but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut > it down... Hehue, never did it this way .-) > How can I update the background image without that hastle?? "wmsetbg" if you have windowmaker installed. "Esetroot" if you have got E(term) installed. > And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through > freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular > intervals, but have found no such thing...) Have you tried ChBg for doing it the conventional way from the disk? -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:34:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA2232BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13240 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahqa-00048X-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@cyborg-group.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but it is one ,-) > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > stable than evolution > - so why the choice Hm, I think that a file manager is a much more important and much more single part of a desktop -- there are not many good GUI filemanagers out there and therefore they/we might have thought that nautilus should be shipped with it. I dunno, if evolution aims to be shipped with final GNOME 1.4 at all -- never heard of a release target for GNOME 1.4 like Nautilus' one. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 12:48:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27Hqvk02193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: Fatih Demir Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net>; from kabalak@gmx.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:35:36PM +0100 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > This is not meant as a flame but >=20 > it is one ,-) >=20 > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > evolution is not > >=20 > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > stable than evolution My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer w= hen both are installed. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnV4ADZzJ5PZfaMRAnSBAJ4ute5jjtXOE/7rRaWsFOszD2iVDQCcCs8p 5MTWZzMUCNdxcO8IulWStnY= =nDKK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1-- From flavio@conectiva.com.br Wed Mar 7 13:00:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (brutus.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761BA2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by barney.distro.conectiva (Postfix, from userid 726) id 7785D27365; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307145924.A30464@conectiva.com.br> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com>; from tanner@real-time.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > >=20 > > it is one ,-) > >=20 > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta whi= le > > > evolution is not > > >=20 > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution >=20 > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer= when > both are installed. so I have the same question! Why? > --=20 > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 >=20 --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqmdvwACgkQiRDznl8DCoAqdQCcCOFgYdDVjm4zNo+gEEQRIIV3 l50An22NasOZguRGsg6O+tQsGd2mmGad =cxmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From sullivan@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:01:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE2F2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (gecko.eazel.com [10.10.100.11]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UA3500.2HA; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:01:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 From: John Sullivan Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > > > > it is one ,-) > > > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > > evolution is not > > > > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility problems should be rare or absent. John > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BA92BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IC7002307; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com>; from sullivan@eazel.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:59:13AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bo= nobo > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibili= ty > problems should be rare or absent. The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnn2ADZzJ5PZfaMRAsYWAJwLaGTLiTo+WDLH1XL/yfaVrJXa5QCfeDtO pMuzeI/BGQnp+zC6NjOR0n4= =2dpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:18:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835402BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aiVq-0000UV-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:18:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:18:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > problems should be rare or absent. > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:23:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205172BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IRvE02841; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:21AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. Hmm, care to share versions? $ uname -a Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 $ nautilus nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info= _init >=20 > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to th= e Bonobo > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compati= bility > > > problems should be rare or absent. > >=20 > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > --=20 > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com >=20 --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pn2sADZzJ5PZfaMRAhO3AJ9Nf7lltKdf7x2az3zFwQ7bMWoASACfez1m QinwwAOXfG7TWaWMD8yUZ4w= =1pNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l-- From darin@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:27:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808DD2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:27:03 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Cc: John Sullivan , , "J. Daniel Powell" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/7/01 10:27 AM, Bob Tanner at tanner@real-time.com wrote: > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 Here's your problem. These packages that claim to be gnome-vfs-2.0 are actually packages made from gnome-vfs HEAD, and are too old for Nautilus. -- Darin From jfleck@inkstain.net Wed Mar 7 13:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A82BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08574; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Bob Tanner Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy development, you should expect it to behave like unstable software that's still under heavy development. In this case, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, the problems come from the mix of bonobo, Nautilus and Evolution, all of which have been under heavy development and have been rapidly changing, making it difficult to create a snapshot where all three worked well together at any one time. That is changing. If you want stable software, wait until the developers have finished writing it. Cheers, John From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:29:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aih4-0000hB-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:29:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:29:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST 2001 i686 unknown [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > $ uname -a > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > $ nautilus > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > -- > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > J. Daniel Powell > > dan@olliance.com > > > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 7 13:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30702BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14aio6-0000ea-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: jacob berkman To: mike Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not since around last august, evolution was not targeted for gnome 1.4 (since it was supposed to come out last november, and evoultion wasn't going to be done enough in time). since the release has slipped until now, evolution could have been a candidate for 1.4, but the evo team didn't want to commit to this, so that they had enough time to get out a really featureful and stable email client. on the plus side, with the libraries being frozen for 1.4, evo and nautilus library incompatibilities will be gone. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 14:03:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from enchanter.real-time.com (enchanter.real-time.com [206.10.252.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585802BDA8 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by enchanter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27J3ex25076; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307130340.A28874@real-time.com> Mail-Followup-To: jfleck@inkstain.net, Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfleck@inkstain.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:19AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Quoting jfleck@inkstain.net (jfleck@inkstain.net): > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > > both are installed. > > > > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. Make it an FAQ. It would save me from having to ask, save you the fustration of having to explain it (again) and it will save someone else from having to ask it next week. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Wed Mar 7 15:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ACE2BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27Kf1H26101; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:41:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103072041.f27Kf1H26101@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Jeff Waugh Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:40:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 07 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > > Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same > property dialogues as panels... Including size. cool. > > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > > should have an impact on anyone else. > > That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. Right. Does anyone have a UI reason that this is the way things work or is this the behavior only because it's easy to code? > > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? > > The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) Don't hold your breath. ;-) --Ben From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378D2CA1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27L3Od05674; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:29:57AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... >=20 > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, ca= n you give me a url? I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SR= PM is around somewhere. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqIcADZzJ5PZfaMRAhWbAJ4/cMFveNrxEDKLbLfzg1tuAqQwmACfdsNq WrQGXtNTidMMW9n6AkszkdA= =c+UL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 16:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6C52DC1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14alGy-0003g6-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:15:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:15:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpmftp:// ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpm On 07 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... > > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > > 2001 i686 unknown > > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > > I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, can you > give me a url? > > I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SRPM is > around somewhere. > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From bart@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 20:25:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0A2D3E4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (null.eazel.com [10.10.100.23]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UUN500.BFR; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA6DFA1.2B0B61BD@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 From: Bart Decrem Reply-To: bart@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: tanner@real-time.com, John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org, tom@eazel.com Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "J. Daniel Powell" wrote: > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... Eazel's launching a revamped software catalog on Monday. One of the great things about the catalog organization is that we can show many different versions of the same package and Nautilus users will be able to auto-install arbitrary versions (module conflict management of course). I count 9 different versions of GNOME-VFS that are available in the softcat that launches on Monday. You can find the catalog at http://www.eazel.com/catalog - easy installation is available to Nautilus users. Cheers, Bart > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > > > $ uname -a > > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > > > $ nautilus > > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > > -- > > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > J. Daniel Powell > > > dan@olliance.com > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > -- > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From shochat@acm.org Wed Mar 7 22:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88DE2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f283GK617767; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA6F9DB.20809@acm.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:17:47 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010303 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian french Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Configure and launch References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion brian french wrote: > hey, > > i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a > question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how > to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and > i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i > have to before i launch it. please help, For RedHat, runlevel 5 would run gdm on boot-up, (also running X) which would give a graphical login screen that should run gnome on login. To do that, edit /etc/inittab, changing the line: id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: If you don't want that (i.e. if you want the system to come up in text mode), you should be able to get startx to launch (X and) gnome by modifying your ~/.xinitrc. If you don't have one, copy /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc. From what you are saying, it may end up with something like: twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 & xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 & exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login Try replacing all that with: exec gnome-session From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Wed Mar 7 22:51:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFF2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25556; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:45 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial047.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.47]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA60308; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA701C7.1080601@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:51:35 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy > development, you should expect it to behave like unstable > software that's still under heavy development. ... > If you want stable software, wait until the developers have > finished writing it. Wouldn't be a very busy mailing list if we all did that! 8^) I've been wishing someone would make this point. But I expect a lot of people will learn it like I did, the hard way. Brett Castleberry From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Thu Mar 8 01:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2802BB74 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f286ksH00109; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:46:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f286l5j20227; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: libgnomeui - About Dialog Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) then I get a Gtk+ error msg: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi dget)' failed. I'm using glade for making the app. Reason? Regards Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 8 03:13:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E867B2BC92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from r1739.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.25.215) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:13:23 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Joachim Backes Cc: GNOME Subject: Re: libgnomeui - About Dialog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Joachim Backes wrote: > it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button > is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to > popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by > > gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) > > then I get a Gtk+ error msg: > > Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi > dget)' failed. > > I'm using glade for making the app. Well, GnomeAboutDialog is a fire&forget dialog. You don't need to free it after creation, but also shouldn't hold a reference to it. Just create it every time you want to show it. Regards, Jens From ascholer@ISI.EDU Tue Mar 6 20:54:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547212DF4B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute (lsanca1-ar6-026-159.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.26.159]) by nitro.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f271ot601361 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:50:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> From: "Andrew Scholer" To: Subject: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 09:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B41522BBE7 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA28260; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:32 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella Reply-To: Donald Tournier To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Open a gnome-terminal and type lots of stuff so that you have a good screenful of lines. Type emacs -nw, and open a largish text file (C-x C-f to open a file). You can then scroll around the file in emacs using PgUp/PgDn. Using the shift modifier, it scrolls around the terminal itself, which is not really what you want. If gnome-terminal grabbed the PgUp/PgDn keys, they would not be available to applications like emacs and they would have to use awkward key combinations, so you have to make some form of compromise somewhere. Hope that helps, Donald Tournier. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andrew Scholer wrote: Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 8 09:28:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572142E337 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28EWBg22221 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010308143211.A22167@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute>; from ascholer@ISI.EDU on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? It's in the FAQ. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > it (including other gnome aps). > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > different than just about everything else out there. Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used mailer, include: previous-page move to the previous page next-page move to the next page And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar gets me the weirdest result when I try it. There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's help. I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! Telsa From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 10:28:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B892DE78 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16560; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal the interface. NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Thu Mar 8 13:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3355E2BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRQ8LAC3; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3AA7CD47.7B5E6C6E@biology.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:19:51 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: <20010308170529.90ACF2E307@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can live with the shift-pgup approach. What I want to do is define a key to move just one line at a time. I can do this in xterm, but not apparently in gnome-terminal. I asked Miguel de Icaza if this kind of thing was modifiable in gnome-terminal and he thought not without recompiling: > HAEFNER > > ... Obviously someone has attached > > the "shift-pageup" key to a gnome-terminal function (scrollback 1 page). > > How is that done? Is there a ".gnometerminalrc" file somewhere? > MIQUEL > I think this is hardcoded into the Zvt widgets or the gnome-terminal > source code. > > best wishes, > Miguel. Does any one out there know if I can define shift-uparrow to be move back one line in the gnome-terminal buffer? -Jim Haefner --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? > > It's in the FAQ. > > http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html > > Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. > URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > > > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > > it (including other gnome aps). > > > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > > different than just about everything else out there. > > Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of > PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used > mailer, include: > previous-page move to the previous page > next-page move to the next page > > And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. > Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) > > If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had > just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar > gets me the weirdest result when I try it. > > There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For > example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a > terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in > a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... > So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > > > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a > > It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, > under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. > It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's > help. > > I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! > > Telsa > > -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 8 13:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB552BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN1P69SQ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:01 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT7RN; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14b53n-0001uE-00 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From len@philpot.org Thu Mar 8 14:02:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E2BBFC for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010308190158.BXMY15172.io@vulcan> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:01:58 -0600 From: "Len Philpot" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:06:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Reply-To: len@philpot.org Message-ID: <3AA783D2.2340.2D1770B@localhost> Priority: normal References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys > to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based > applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Of course, another approach could be to have the terminal merely host the application's display, whether vi, emacs, bash or whatever and not interfere with anything: Let _each_ app handle all the keyboard IO by itself, the way the app sees fit. That way, any functionality built into each app would be free to function. Basically, the terminal would cease to exist when an app was running (whcih would be all the time; the shell if nothing else). Unfortunately, I've not come across any terminal emulators that do that AFAICT. -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From hp@redhat.com Thu Mar 8 14:45:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76422E3E1 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28JkX708556; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the > "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol > characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome > team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other > communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal > the interface. > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, which we can't count on. Havoc From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 15:44:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FCC2BAB6 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18773; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Havoc Pennington Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 8 Mar 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > which we can't count on. Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt keyboards could be accomodated. I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From mhoffman1@pdq.net Thu Mar 8 17:25:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0213A2BAC0 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdq.net from [209.144.229.93] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with esmtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:25:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600 From: mhoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Out-of-control Panel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel is behaving...strangely. First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, because I don't use that option --yet. A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Matthew Hoffman From jfleck@inkstain.net Thu Mar 8 17:54:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580662E45C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11948; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, mhoffman wrote: > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > I'm not sure I fully understand your description of what's going on, but part of the problem, the loss of minimized icons, is most likely the loss of your tasklist applet. Right-click on the panel, then choose Applets->Utility->Tasklist. That should restart the tasklist, where those minimized icons live. Cheers, John From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 8 21:43:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643452BB71 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292h7H11582; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103090243.f292h7H11582@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc From: Ben FrantzDale To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:43:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm not sure exactly what's wrong in your case but I've had times where the control center (Window manager component) thinks one WM is running when really another is... You might try switching WMs and swithcing back to make sure that the control center knows what's going on... That's my only suggestion.... --Ben > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Thu Mar 8 23:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E2C2BB92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f294SAL13357; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel From: Stephen "M." Williams To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:26:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600, mhoffman wrote: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. HTH, Steve From wege34@zonnet.nl Thu Mar 8 23:57:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D8452C858 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26984 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.102) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:56:26 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-Id: <20010309055626.3f300151.wege34@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> References: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion mhoffman schreef op Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600:: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! > > Matthew Hoffman > It gets even more annoying here. I have Ximian 1.4beta in my sources.list, and last night a whole bunch of gnome stuff got upgraded. Funny thing is, like Matthew, my Tasklist is gone, and trying to add it to the panel gives no result. If Matthew is running the beta as well, I think we found a bug here. Mart -- You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE "SOMEONE ELSE." From hp@redhat.com Fri Mar 9 02:04:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B882CE9E for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2975Xt19646; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? > > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. It could certainly make sense to allow configuration of the "command" key, though it would require changes to lots of code, so nontrivial. The reason "Alt" isn't used is that it's used for the "underline accelerators," such as Alt-F to get the file menu. Underline accelerators correspond to a letter in a displayed word, and change when interfaces are translated into other languages. Thus if you use Alt for the regular accelerators also, it's very difficult to avoid collisions between accelerators. Already the underline accelerators are hard, since you have to use one of the letters contained in each word to be accelerated. The Ctrl- accelerators for an app with lots of them such as the Gimp would leave no letters available for the underline accelerators. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. Really the only issue is that you can't have Ctrl- shortcuts in a terminal program, which is kind of lame, but I don't think it's an enormous disaster. FWIW you can't have Alt- shortcuts either, since apps like Emacs also expect to get Alt. So using Alt doesn't help. Only using Hyper or something would really be effective. We could use NumLock, then you could accelerate lots of stuff at once without holding down a key. ;-) Havoc From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f118.hotmail.com [216.32.181.118]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89272BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: compiling gnome-libs Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB7DDB60:01C0A885] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All, Has anyone had problems running make check on ORBIT-0.5.6? I received this error (in short) ... file test-dynany.c line 330 (test_array) assertion failed .... Any ideas? Anyway, I ignored to see how the rest of the libs/gnome core stuff would react and there didn't __SEEM__ to be any side affects. BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. TIA -Ants _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 06:07:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E69602BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13684; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:31 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to the configurator. These are: /tmp/orbit-username/ /tmp/.sawmill-username/ Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. Hope that solves the problem... Donald Tournier. __________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Fri Mar 9 06:23:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E882BC15 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA08066; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:22:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Anthony Gardner wrote: > BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to > access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such > configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. > > Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. I had something similar once, due to different prefix/sysconfdir settings. Make sure you compile everything with --sysconfdir=/etc. Maybe this fixes the problem. Regards, Jens From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Fri Mar 9 09:49:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB252DE7F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GSXRT2FD; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT806; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14bO3A-0003XI-00 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010309093924.S6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, those are good. Well, I logged out and back in and the problem seems to be fixed. Maybe there was a missing .pid file for sawmill or something. Personally, I find the stability of gnome still leaves a lot to be desired. You shouldn't have to log out and back in. Many of the details are starting to get so obscured that it's starting to feel like *shudder* windoze. I truly hope these Linux desktop efforts still keep Unix as the fine product that it is. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000, Donald Tournier wrote: > > I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally > worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there > are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I > had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to > the configurator. These are: > > /tmp/orbit-username/ > /tmp/.sawmill-username/ > > Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. > Hope that solves the problem... > > Donald Tournier. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? > > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From famrom@idecnet.com Fri Mar 9 12:10:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (61-MADR-X48.libre.retevision.es [62.83.23.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA362DCCD for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01169 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010309153821.A1162@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jnelson@lexonia.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:45:27PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jnelson@lexonia.com (2001-03-08 at 1545.27 -0500): > > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > > which we can't count on. > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? Some, maybe, all, no. And some of us, are already using it for other things, ie window manager tasks, so no too (now that I have found a job for them, and that I can handle windows via keyboard, it would be a step back ;] ). > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. Hehehe, X is not just two options, mapping is not just that, I have Hyper, others have Meta, the other guy will have whatever he wants. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. IIRC, MacOS does not use Alt to open menus, but MS Windows does. An app that does this under Linux is NS4, all is done via Alt. On the other hand, how do you open a menu without a mouse in MacOS (or in NS4)? How would it be opened if GNOME uses Alt instead of Ctrl? Alt+Space and then single keys (the underlined letters)? And what would happen in consoles if the running app wants Alt+Space (or the keycombo that becomes elected as "go to menu")? Tricky land. :[ GSR From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 19:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E4B42DB57 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.28.27] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:14:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams: Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! Matt On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > HTH, > > Steve From jfleck@inkstain.net Fri Mar 9 19:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1AB2DEED for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15413; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Matthew Hoffman Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > Mr. Williams: > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > Matt - Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on gnome-hackers: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html John From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 22:55:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061582DF87 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.227.186] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: More Gnome strangeness Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030922063100.01486@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've got some more strangeness on my hands... After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! Matthew Hoffman From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Fri Mar 9 23:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69E2E22F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA09977; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A3xDw01189; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9A452.7070406@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:49:38 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
when I try to build any debian package the  ${shlibs:Depends}  statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file.  I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff.
  And something else...  the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run  dh_make -l
If you know how to solve any of these, please help.
Thanks  -SCUD
From simon@burble.net Fri Mar 9 23:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from burble.net (adsl-63-201-63-134.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.134]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45F2C863 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from galactica (adsl-64-169-66-92.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.66.92]) by burble.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30009 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Simon M. C. Butler" To: Subject: newbie question Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager my issues are: 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. appreciate any tips. rgds. -simon- From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 00:07:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459642BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.230.102] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams , mhoffman1@pdq.net Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030923175400.00780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yes, it is the desk guide (that is the name that comes up in "properties" when I right-click on it), so that much is certain. As you can see from my other recent message, I'm experiencing a lot of strangeness from my Gnome, including KDE icons mysteriously appearing on the desktop, then disappearing when I leave and restart X. I'm afraid I have a virus. Matthew Hoffman On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > Hmm, > > Not sure what you're talking about then. I though (in hope) that > you were referring to the desk guide :) If you could possibly > provide more description I and others might be able to help! Have > you checked the bug as mentioned by John? > > > Steve > > On 09 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Mr. Williams: > > > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > > > > Matt > > > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > > > > > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > > > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > > > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > > > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > > > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > > > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > > > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 00:08:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEA62BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From chultquist@alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 10 07:47:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uct.ac.za (mail.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE872C8B5 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za ([137.158.133.133]) by mail.uct.ac.za with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bimD-0000br-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +0200 Received: from pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za (mail@pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.108]) by alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18359 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:45:43 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=carl) by pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14bikG-0006Zf-00 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:45:16 +0200 Subject: Taslklist: assertion failed? From: Carl Hultquist To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.09.15.02 - Preview Release) Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:45:14 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi I'm using a Debian system and recently upgraded my packages which included an upgrade of Gnome. Most of the Gnome packages (notably gnome-core and libpanel-applet0) are on version 1.3.1.1 now according to my system. Whenever I try to load up a tasklist applet, it doesn't work and instead produces a small black pixel on my panel. Running 'panel' from a term and trying this again, I get the following error message in the term: ** CRITICAL **: file goad.c: line 844 (goad_server_activate_shlib): assertion `i' failed. If I load up goad-browser and try to activate the tasklist there, it gives the same error. Using dpkg, I've found that goad-browser (and hence possibly goad.c) belong to package gnome-bin but I can't locate the source for this and so can't try to resolve the problem myself! Any ideas? Ciao Carl From jocknerd@home.com Sat Mar 10 13:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mulder.self.hom (cx23684-a.chspk1.va.home.com [24.4.151.54]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363772DD99 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mulder.self.hom (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with ESMTP id f2AI1st05839 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mulder.self.hom: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Self X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. Here's my list of problems: 1. Can't change themes because I can't make any changes inside of Control Panel with Sawfish. Everything else in Control Panel works though. 2. Desk guide doesn't work. I can try and add it, but all that shows up is a little dot on my panel. Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome packages have been replaced by gnome packages. This is the second time in the last month this has happened. It never happened before. I thnik the ximian developers are spending all their time on Evolution and Red carpet and they aren't keeping up with gnome now. Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 10 15:08:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0B22BB31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2AKCak02761 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 GMT Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: <20010310201236.A1833@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jocknerd@home.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, Jeff Self wrote: > I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. > Here's my list of problems: I don't get this pair, but I haven't updated recently. > Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an > update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome > packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than > the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome > packages have been replaced by gnome packages. [snip] > Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my > helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced > with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and > I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. I think the decision to put the beta packages separate was so that people didn't run apt-get and get them by mistake. I think this was a good decision. Beta software is, well. Beta :) I haven't seen packages of later Gnome betas though. I probably avoided the mix and match because I added the beta line to apt/sources.list, and commented out all the normal ones, because I had not updated in a good while. I didn't want to get bogged down in all the other stuff; I just wanted the beta packages. So I ran apt-get with just the Ximian lines visible, not the main Debian ones; and then uncommented the main Debian ones again. This was sheer "make things easy by avoiding upgrading loads at once" behaviour, but it seems to have saved me from quite a few problems. Telsa From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 15:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Mail.austin.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE122DB9C for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by Mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:15:13 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by sm11.texas.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:06:11 -0600 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.211]) by mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:12:25 -0600 Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2A59hs06781 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Received: (qmail 11737 invoked by uid 38); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:59 -0000 X-Envelope-Sender: scud_mlist@seznam.cz Received: (qmail 11701 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/137254 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:35:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A559D2BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:44:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How do you do it? Thanks, Matthew On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > How did you install Gnome? Was it using RPMs or did you compile it? > What version of Gnome are you running, 1.2 or 1.4 beta? > > Steve > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome > > screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE > > icons were gone. > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate > > sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? > > Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! > > > > Matthew Hoffman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:36:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459932BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:07:31 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031012222500.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams and all: I checked out the bug report, but it doesn't seem to fit my problem, because the reported segmentation fault shuts down the whole panel, and in my case only the tasklist applet disappeared (and now, happily, has been restored). However, I may be getting to the bottom of this in some respects. I've found that my KDE icons are always put on the desktop if I exit Netscape Communicator from the newsreader (I can get rid of them by sending a kill signal to the PID for the the kfm). I've found other bugs like this in my Linux Netscape Comm. package, and I'll send reports to Netscape. However, I still can't fix my desk guide. Also On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > > Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on > gnome-hackers: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html > > John From eli@eazel.com Sat Mar 10 20:19:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712B2CF34 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (prometheus.eazel.com [10.10.100.68]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GA0EBZ00.NZE; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAAD359.C792AF37@eazel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:22:33 -0800 From: Eli Goldberg Reply-To: eli@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, nautilus-test@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day: Sunday March 11th (20:00 UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Join members of the Nautilus community this Sunday (tomorrow) for the final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day. You too can come and... - Discover terrifying bugs in the final candidate builds! - Experience a successful Nautilus installation through the Eazel Installer on your Red Hat 6.2 or 7.0 system! (*) - Watch Eazel staff members die of panic attacks! To join in the excitement, visit #nautilus on irc.gnome.org, starting at Sunday 20:00 UTC (12:00 PDT), and probably ending around Monday 4:00 UTC. (*) - This thrill will be subject to Eskil & Robey pulling off a miracle today. ;) From bighead@crosswinds.net Sat Mar 10 21:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.94.251.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A762D2D6 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bighead@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01162; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Message-Id: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: bighead set sender to bighead@crosswinds.net using -f From: Archit Baweja To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Archit Baweja From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sun Mar 11 01:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22792BA85 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA19318 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA10719 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12987 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id BAA25206; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: GNOME: Pilot, Calendar Addressbook Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm having problem building Gnome-pim.1.3.2. The following are the problems that I got: calendar-conduit.c:45: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.c:46: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory In file included from calendar-conduit.c:53: calendar-conduit.h:39: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.h:40: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [calendar-conduit.lo] Error 1 Could somebody help? a. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:39:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74752BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAh3P11219 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Message-ID: <20010311104303.A11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain>; from mhoffman1@pdq.net on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 or thereabouts, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro > installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say > this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How > do you do it? It's annoying, isn't it? :) There's no easy "what is this version of Gnome?" in the menu. There is a gnome-about program you can run at the command-line in a gnome-terminal, but that's just the credits for GNOME and doesn't have the version of Gnome in it. "System info" on the menu doesn't have it either. I usually suggest just checking the version of gnome-core and gnome-libs. This gets complicated because some distros use different names for them. But "rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs" will work on RH. "dpkg -l gnome-core" works on Debian, but I forget the package name for what I call gnome-libs. RH 7.0 came with Gnome 1.2. I know, because I have it too. As to the original problem: > > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared > > > on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and > > > went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. > > > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable > > > alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I > > > deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! It sounds more like Netscape weirdness to me, but I am biassed. I have had Netscape do weird things to my machine and I like to blame everything on it. Disappearing taskbar: is this the bar at the bottom of the screen? That's the Gnome panel. If you have a terminal you can type into, "panel &" should either restore it, or whinge that you already have a panel running. If you have a panel running (allegedly), then Gnome is confused. The panel will have said "hello, I exist" to Gnome. It's then supposed to say "I'm going away now" when it stops running. But sometimes it dies without saying that and Gnome thinks it's still there. This business of getting the "But a panel is already running!" message when there is a conspicuous lack of a panel used to occur, but I really thought it had been fixed by Gnome 1.2. I'm not sure about unavailable alternate sessions. This sounds like you are logging in through gdm, the Gnome display manager (aka "the graphical login prompt". I believe that offers choices of sessions? I don't use this so I can't really offer much help here. Telsa From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 11 05:45:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulexite.lion-access.net (ulexite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust204.tnt22.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.138.204]) by ulexite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 657EAFAFF2 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:44:44 -0100 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Three stupid questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse TFM) 1. How can I change the gdm background image? 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu for instance)? 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the graphics to look good to :-) Thank you all in advance! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:45:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F4A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAnYO11248 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Message-ID: <20010311104934.B11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain>; from bighead@crosswinds.net on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 or thereabouts, Archit Baweja wrote: > Hi > > Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I > have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the > Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on > startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, > and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Gmc is the default for people who have already been using Gnome. If it's a new account, then Nautilus will start. (I think.) First kill off gmc, then start nautilus. Like this: open control-center ->Session properties and startup programs ->startup programs (tab) ->browse currently-running programs...(button) ->find and highlight (left-click on) "gmc --sm-config-blah blah" ->change the "style" from Respawn to Normal (button at top) ->click "remove". Bye-bye, gmc. Now you have no file manager. Start nautilus off the foot menu. Now you have nautilus. You can't kill off gmc any more easily because of that "respawn" option. That means "if I die, restart me immediately". The panel has that respawn thing too. So killing off at the command line will just result in it dying and respawning. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 06:16:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAD12BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BBK3B11383 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Three stupid questions Message-ID: <20010311112003.F11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 or thereabouts, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) :) > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? I don't use it, but you'll probably need to edit the gdm.conf file which I expect is in /etc/X11/gdm/. You will find TFM at http://www.mkp.net/~mkp/gdm/gdm.pdf > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? control-center->panel->menu. Turn "applets" to "in a submenu" or "off", whichever. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue Don't use that, either. Sorry. Telsa From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 11 06:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (plato.exmail.de [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5302BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25087 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Received: from r678.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.21.170) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:18:32 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Pim Schellart Cc: Subject: Re: Three stupid questions In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Pim Schellart wrote: > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? Look into /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default (or create it if it's not there). This is a simple shell script which is called at startup. E.g. I use: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xsetroot -solid "#5971a5" to set a solid background color. But you can also use xv or another program to set a background image. Some people start the matrix screensaver on the root window. > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? Right click on the foot icon and select 'properties' then. This opens a nice configuration dialog, which is propably what you want. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the > middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a > window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I > want the graphics to look good to :-) Sorry, don't use enlightenment. Regards, Jens From rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Sun Mar 11 08:53:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca [128.100.8.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258222CAED for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from skule.ecf (rivet@skule.ecf [128.100.8.6]) by cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21833 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (rivet@localhost) by skule.ecf (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA276703684 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: skule.ecf: rivet owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Desmond Rivet X-Sender: rivet@skule.ecf To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: updater Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I have to download something new to get more updates? TIA, ---------------------------------------------- Desmond Rivet rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Eng Sci 0T0 + PEY rivet_d@hotmail.com You live and learn, or you don't live long From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 09:35:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BDF2CAB7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BEcdJ12030 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: updater Message-ID: <20010311143839.B11981@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 or thereabouts, Desmond Rivet wrote: > > I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a > while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I > have to download something new to get more updates? One of the helix/ximian lists would be better for this, but oh well :) I gather there have not been that many new updates for a while. There are only so many people working at Ximian, and they have also been building RC, XST, Evolution, and the packages for the first beta (which were on a different site so that people wouldn't accidentally upgrade stable working versions to unstable beta stuff). Just to add to the mix, there was an office move in the middle of all that too. I gather this because I asked yesterday, and the best answer I got for when updates will resume was "soon". Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:10:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A82D39F for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFEId12245 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: newbie question Message-ID: <20010311151418.A12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from simon@burble.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 or thereabouts, Simon M. C. Butler wrote: > i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on > RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager > > 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom > of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window > up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? > 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit > the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. I am wondering what's getting read when you startx. Have you got a ~/.Xclients or ~/.xinitrc there? What's in it? (them?) If they're present, what permissions do they have? I encountered similar symptoms to your second problem when using Window Maker with Gnome at first. Wmaker wanted to do the session management. When I quit Gnome, I'd get a blank screen and didn't return to the console. Telling wmaker not to session-manage fixed that. Can you do control-alt-F1 (F2, whatever) to get back to the console you started X from? As to starting a panel, that -should- start along with the other things which routinely start in Gnome. I believe that's file manager, help browser, control center and panel. You can start those individually from a terminal with "gmc &", "gnome-help-browser &", "gnomecc &" and "panel &". (You don't need the & signs; they're just to get your prompt back :)) Starting them from a terminal might give you some errors which make things clearer. Or they may Just Work. If they are remembered when you quit and restart, problem one is dealt with. I hope. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:12:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16912BB41 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFG4h12250 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010311151604.B12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship>; from famrom@idecnet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 or thereabouts, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): (killing things with 'top' and the 'k' key) > > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. > > Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and > quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your > system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs > and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). > > Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after > remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a > fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, > not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). I checked (briefly) on this. Apparently you shouldn't be able to kill init (and a few other things) via top on Linux. The magic sysreq keys are a separate story. I am still not going to try it to find out though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:21:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E1A2DD96 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFOtl12294 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Message-ID: <20010311152455.C12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com>; from wphewitt@home.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 or thereabouts, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... Control-center->panel->menus. You can certainly remove Favorites with that. Not sure about a Red Hat Menus submenu. I am running RH 7.0 and don't see it (unless it only comes up for root or something?) RH doesn't compile Gnome stuff into the kernel, no :) That's pretty separate. However, I am not quite sure myself what generates what shows up on menus. Two things to look at for RH are o anything in /usr/share/gnome/ or /usr/share/applets which has the suffix .desktop o anything in /etc/X11/applnk/ Things in the first one will show up in the menu editor. Things in that second one will show up for some reason but are not found by the menu editor. When you have a Gimp in each one of those locations, you end up with two Gimp entries on your menu. I believe the /etc/X11/applnk one is a residue from RH's old desktop setup for X, prior to Gnome. Telsa From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 10:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D112DC91 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-249.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.249]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2001031115334520405uq8tee>; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:33:46 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:31:03 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: /dev/dsp busy X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010311153347.A0D112DC91@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've somehow broken the gnome sounds. I can start esd and I hear the beeps. I can also play CDs using the CD player app. Gmixer works OK too, as far as controlling volume from the CD player. What appears to happen as far as the gnome system sounds is that /dev/dsp is busy doing something else. I can't find out what it's busy doing though. Can anyone help? I use the 4-front drivers and I'm using kernel 2.4.x and the latest driver. Fred From landie@concentric.net Sun Mar 11 12:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.concentric.net (ts004d21.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.26.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D202DDEA for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from landie@localhost) by smtp.concentric.net (8.10.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id f2BHTfg13973 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Subject: off topic Message-ID: <20010311122941.A13970@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion anyone using sylpheed having problems creating mailboxes already in use by procmail to filter mail????? any advice -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sun Mar 11 12:05:01 EST 2001 From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sun Mar 11 16:29:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90AB42BB45 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.24.225] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:29:03 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Further development... Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:38:27 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031115400300.00885@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Matthew Hoffman mhoffman1@pdq.net From gohel@csee.usf.edu Sun Mar 11 17:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3E2BBD4 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0356.cvx15-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.45.101]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00752 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAC03C9.8ABD6927@csee.usf.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:01:29 -0800 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME Mailing List Subject: Re: Further development... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear > without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have > to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Before you do that I suggest that you create a new user and test the behavior of GNOME under that clean environment. If that produces the same result, I would tend to think that your installation is suspect, and then I would reinstall the components. Finally, if that continues to produce the same results, I would then write up a bug report. Being able to reproduce the possible bug would be helpful. -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu From federico@ximian.com Sun Mar 11 20:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (cs2-16.modems.unam.mx [132.248.10.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB682BA85; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12779; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Fact-of-life: You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix release. Simple. Really. * Availability: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz * Changes in this version: - Fixed thinko in color parsing routines (John). - Added --disable-mmx for buggy binutils installations (Timur). Love love love, Federico From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 20:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154DD2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip-32-101-75-151.oh.us.prserv.net[32.101.75.151]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2001031201393920202knin0e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:39:40 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500 To: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not there yet. Fred >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix >release. Simple. Really. >* Availability: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 11 21:19:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2423C2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2C2I0L12337; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:18:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released From: Stephen "M." Williams To: fheitka@attglobal.net Cc: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 11 Mar 2001 20:16:37 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has it, though. Steve On 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500, fheitka@attglobal.net wrote: > In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 > at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: > > That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on > ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that > master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I > checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not > there yet. > > Fred > > >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, > > >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do > >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix > >release. Simple. Really. > > >* Availability: > > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From gards1@iinet.net.au Sun Mar 11 21:56:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C9FF2BC98 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15936 invoked by uid 666); 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO optimist) (203.59.78.218) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab67$f83d9320$0100a8c0@optimist> From: "Gards" To: Subject: When GDM starts, it kills my keyboard! Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the whole helix/ximian-gnome suite and = its all installed perfectly.. but whenever i start GDM to use gnome, my = keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll lock doesnt turn my = little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's or anything = because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. and the = keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really = want to use Gnome. Im running Debian (potato), kernel is 2.2.18 and stable, the mouse is an = intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and the keyboard is your = standard 105 key US International.. I can't give you any output, because, like I say, i cant change out of = GDM to get to a console to see whats really happening. I _can_ start = linux without GDM though.. Any help who be much much much appreciated. Thanks. Mikey. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the = whole=20 helix/ximian-gnome suite and its all installed perfectly.. but whenever = i start=20 GDM to use gnome, my keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll = lock=20 doesnt turn my little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's = or=20 anything because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. = and the=20 keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window=20 managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really want to = use=20 Gnome.
 
Im running Debian (potato), kernel is = 2.2.18 and=20 stable, the mouse is an intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and = the=20 keyboard is your standard 105 key US International..
 
I can't give you any output, because, = like I say, i=20 cant change out of GDM to get to a console to see whats really = happening. I=20 _can_ start linux without GDM though..
 
Any help who be much much much=20 appreciated.
 
Thanks.
Mikey.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0-- From fheitka@attglobal.net Mon Mar 12 07:10:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6D2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-139.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.139]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20010312121051201005pmmte>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:10:52 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:11:13 -0500 To: Stephen "M." Williams , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312121053.3FF6D2BAAF@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com>, on 03/11/01 at 08:16 PM, Stephen "M." Williams said: >I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has >it, though. I tried to download it from there and got an error. It shows up in the links though. Fred From kolarov@net-bg.net Mon Mar 12 12:41:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.net-bg.net (mail.net-bg.net [212.124.88.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DA2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool7.ppp.net-bg.net [212.124.88.199]) by mail.net-bg.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA13192 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:42:56 +0200 From: Yavor Kolarov Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: SlashApp MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Thanks in advance, Yavor From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 12:59:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC682BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cWah-0000yp-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:58:43 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 18:58:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices > headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any > way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Right click on SlashApp -> Properties -> Site -> Slashdot, easy isn't it? Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 13:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95F2CD45 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXP8-0001BW-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:50:51 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:50:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > [General] and [Display] > [General] contains options about what article information to show > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 14:09:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988532BC8B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA12741 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > > [General] and [Display] > > [General] contains options about what article information to show > > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. > > Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I > have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another > tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my general tab either.... > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 14:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48DC2E112 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXrs-0001IN-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:32 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Wandered Inn Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 20:20:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > general tab either.... Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the difference. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From jrigler@colorado.edu Mon Mar 12 14:55:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2617F2DB5F for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2CJt4J19134 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAD2998.D5CCEB54@colorado.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Focus on window with private color map Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently upgraded to Ximian Gnome (1.2) on a RedHat 7.0 system. I'm mostly pleased, but have noticed a fairly undesirable feature. I use RSI's IDL (Interactive Data Language) to produce plots. IDL does not play nicely with true color displays, and requires a private color map when generating plots with standard 8-bit color tables. Previously when I put my mouse over the plot window, it became focused (since I have my WM set to do this), causing it to acquire its private colormap, and screwing up everything else on the screen. As bad as this is, at least when my mouse was over the plot, it looked correct. Now the plot window is not given its private colormap unless I actually try to move or resize it. I suspect this is something wrong with the way IDL creates child windows, but I've even configured Sawfish to "Give focus to windows even when they haven't asked for it" (this is a "Focus" option in the Sawfish configurator), and I have the same problem. Any ideas? -EJR From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 15:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136702BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA13331 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD33F0.8564F437@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > > general tab either.... > > Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the > difference. Likely, 1.2 here. > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From leonchiver@xnet.ro Mon Mar 12 17:17:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653922E010 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 18dial235.xnet.ro ([217.10.218.235]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:33 +0200 Subject: gnome themes From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.27 - Preview Release) Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:17:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a new engine theme but it installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. Thanks guys. From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Mon Mar 12 17:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B12BE08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust157.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.157]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11579 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:47:38 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Leon Chiver wrote: > > Hi! > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > new engine theme but it > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. ./configure --prefix=/usr will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc file in /usr/share/themes/ By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: "./configure --help|more" to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 12 17:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (86-MADR-X28.libre.retevision.es [62.83.9.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C252D488 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02141 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes Message-ID: <20010312235843.A2138@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com>; from aquari0@linuxfreak.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 04:47:38PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion aquari0@linuxfreak.com (2001-03-12 at 1647.38 -0600): > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > > new engine theme but it > > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. > ./configure --prefix=/usr > will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc > file in /usr/share/themes/ > By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. > ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: > "./configure --help|more" > to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. I think he is speaking about already compiled RPMs and a way to tell Gtk+ where to look for themes (which are not from RPMs, I guess). As solution, install and then symlink in where Gtk+ searchs. I have my config that way, in the worst case I just have to rebuild symlinks from some /usr dirs to some /usr/local dirs. Well, just guessing, he could explain better. GSR From veillard@redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F932DB5C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21426 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Nicely suggested by our KDE colleagues in their first Kernel Cousin KDE issue ;-) http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010310_1.html It's a good idea. We used to have commit list reports posted, there is the news.gnome.org service too, but we never really had something like the Kernel Traffic analysis done on the gnome-list for example. It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check http://kt.zork.net/ Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From jirka@zinc.5z.com Mon Mar 12 21:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF02D9BB; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2D2TGm08444; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:29:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:21:55 -0800 From: George To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: gdm 2.2.0 "Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky" release Message-ID: <20010312182155.F6382@monique.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv'. Now at long last, people that don't want to run unstable software can also break their systems with this brand spanking new stable gdm 2.2.0 release. In fact, this is the first time you can break your system with a stable 2.x release of gdm, as before you would be breaking your system with a beta. What is GDM? (You mean you don't know already???) :) GDM is GNOME Display Manager. An xdm like program that manages the login screen to your GNOME desktop. It is not based on xdm and is a complete rewrite in fact. It was originally written by Martin K. Petersen, but he does not have the time to maintain the 2.x tree anymore, so I took over fixing this up for the 1.4 gnome release. Nowdays most work on gdm2 is done by me and Lee Mallabone. New stuff in 2.2.0 (from 2.0.99) - gdmconfig now works with more fontsizes (me, Lee) - Another minor xinerama fix - Fixup the pam message voodoo, so that it now is at least functional even though it may not be pretty nor 100% correct. - Initial gdmconfig documentation (Trevor Curtis, Lee) - gdmconfig now correctly handles RelaxPerms (Lee) - gdmconfig has now nice pam console helper setup (Lee) - gladify/beautify gdmchooser (Lee) - gdmchooser now apparently works with xdm (Matthias Clasen) - Better specfile (Gregory Leblanc) - Packagers should read the comment on end of config/gdm.conf.in (especially debian people) - Configuration file now does not force the adobe version of helvetica, and postgres and pvm users are excluded by default (Vlad Hrachev) - i18n fixes (Gediminas Paulauskas) - New easter egg - Bunch of minor fixes - Translation updates (Yukihiro Nakai, Carlos Perelló Marín, Martin Norbäck, Fatih Demir, Simos Xenitellis, Kjartan Maraas, Christian Meyer, Christophe Merlet, Stanislav Visnovsky, me) To get this modern marvel of technology go to ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/sources/gdm/gdm-2.2.0.tar.gz RPMS can be had from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/i386/ ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/SRPMS/ Since it nowdays seems that this is only accessible through mirrors of ftp.gnome.org, you can get all these files from ftp://ftp.5z.com/pub/unix/ as well if you can't find it on one of the mirrors, though please use the mirrors if you can. -George -- George A good memory is needed after one has lied. -- Pierre Corneille From jdub@giardia.yourweb.com.au Mon Mar 12 21:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from giardia.yourweb.com.au (giardia.yourweb.com.au [61.8.3.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E852BCB2 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by giardia.yourweb.com.au (Postfix, from userid 609) id 7268118064; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Daniel Veillard Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010313132252.A22338@giardia.yourweb.com.au> References: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 06:22:53PM -0500 X-Message: Leenooks, Lienucks, Leenoos, Lienus, Let's call the whole thing off. X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel > Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help > advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check Hi Daniel, Indeed, doing a kernel cousin is fun. I did the Sydney Linux User Group cousin (now sleeping, no one was able to share the load) for it's seven issues. Absolute PITA to do by yourself, but with a group cousin, it's quite easy. I'd be interested in helping out, or guiding the project to fruition. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From jrigler@colorado.edu Tue Mar 13 19:50:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85082E3FF for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2E0o0J05041 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the title bar, or tried to resize the window. In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest version of Mozilla. Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's gnome configuration are significantly different than the default configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? -EJR From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 14 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E22BDD0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 16493414 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAF1CD6.7040009@megapathdsl.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:25:10 -0800 From: Miles Lane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac17 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010207 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian appears to have dropped off the web (www.ximian.com, helix-update and redcarpet all fail). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 23:22:38.515867 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:38.525122 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50660+ PTR? 10.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:38.659223 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50660* 1/2/2 PTR dendrite.ximian.com. (154) 23:22:38.661216 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50661+ PTR? 4.176.200.216.in-addr.arpa. (44) (DF) 23:22:38.700100 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50661* 1/2/2 PTR ns1.megapath.net. (138) 23:22:50.515880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.615880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2482 > axon.ximian.com.8000: S 781966852:781966852(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.617078 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50662+ PTR? 12.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:56.729362 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50662* 1/2/2 PTR axon.ximian.com. (150) From jgift@wanadoo.fr Wed Mar 14 04:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3432BDDD for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:40 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.3.74) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:22 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14d77m-0000X4-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Best user list? Message-ID: <20010314095918.B1992@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm looking for a general user list where everything is discussed from particular problems to the future of Gnome. Is this it and if not, where should I go? Thanks. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From beirne@neo.rr.com Wed Mar 14 07:11:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pop-server.twmi.rr.com (unknown [65.24.0.109]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF062DC32 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from neo.rr.com (beirne@a13b025.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.25]) by pop-server.twmi.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2EC9Hw22481; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103141209.f2EC9Hw22481@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Joshua Rigler Cc: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Joshua Rigler of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 MST." <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:15:50 -0500 From: Beirne Konarski Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. > > .... > > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? I had enough lockups with Ximian and RedHat 7 that I started losing files on my hard disk after having to hit the reset key. When I lost my VMware NT drive image it was the last straw and I switched to Debian, which has worked much better. Beirne -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A882BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20216 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:42 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdk2WRm4; Wed Mar 14 15:06:16 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <385A497A.B757AB75@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys (Net Technology Systems) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: mp3 play panel app available? References: <3859C106.19AAC38E@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 0000001e-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm actually about to release pretty soon a beta version of a lightweight mp3 player for Gnome that will also have a panel interface. I'll make an announcement as soon as it will be stable enough to be released. Frederic Bellaice NTSys (Net Technology Systems) Daniel Weber wrote: > > I'm sitting here listening to xmms and was wondering if there was a > panel applet that just plays mp3 files. xmms is a nice program, but > I usually don't want to take up screen real estate when I'm hacking.... > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:04:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E32BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20351; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:48 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdwf5dJh; Wed Mar 14 15:06:20 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tommy_T Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 00000037-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's web site. Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version of Gnome. Frederic (fbellaiche@ntsys.fr) Tommy_T wrote: > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > Slackware > version of Linux. Is it available? > Thanks in advance, > Tom (tootie-t@pacbell.net) > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 14 10:59:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF18A2DBBE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28895; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:12:54 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma028892; Wed, 14 Mar 01 19:12:48 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA17692; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:34 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma017689; Wed, 14 Mar 01 18:57:12 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25014 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA11906; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:05 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 14 Mar 2001 18:57:03 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from gnome-core 1.2.4): (gdb) run Starting program: /home/gregory/ftp/gnome/gnome-core-1.2.4/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () (gdb) where #0 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () #1 0xff3be378 in ?? () #2 0xff3be5e0 in ?? () #3 0xff3be6f0 in ?? () #4 0xff3be838 in ?? () #5 0xfedfd65c in _XsunRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #6 0xfeddf394 in XRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #7 0xfeece07c in gdk_im_open () at gdkim.c:426 #8 0xfeebb488 in gdk_init_check (argc=0x1, argv=0xffbee938) at gdk.c:465 #9 0xfefbf880 in gtk_init_check (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:247 #10 0xfefbfddc in gtk_init (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:471 #11 0xff207fa0 in gnome_add_gtk_arg_callback (con=0x3cb00, reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x3d7f0 "", data=0x0) at gnome-init.c:139 #12 0xfed61ec8 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0xff284df8, post=1) at popt.c:56 #13 0xfed61e6c in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0x3c9c4, post=1) at popt.c:51 #14 0xfed62898 in poptGetNextOpt (con=0x3cb00) at popt.c:318 #15 0xfee414dc in gnomelib_parse_args (argc=248576, argv=0xffbeef14, popt_flags=0) at gnome-popt.c:86 #16 0xff208338 in gnome_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0xffbeef14 "˙žđČ", argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, flags=0, return_ctx=0x0) at gnome-init.c:456 #17 0xff378e5c in gnome_CORBA_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0x1cd58 "1.2.4", argc=0xffbeee84, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, popt_flags=0, return_ctx=0x0, gnorba_flags=0, ev=0xffbeee20) at orbitgnome.c:98 #18 0x1bbe0 in main_terminal_program (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, environ=0xffbeef1c) at gnome-terminal.c:2790 #19 0x1c018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14) at gnome-terminal.c:2934 Any ideas?... -- Gregory From jprokopek@snet.net Wed Mar 14 11:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.snet.net (smtp.snet.net [204.60.6.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E62C930 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from snet.net (119.12.252.64.snet.net [64.252.12.119]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f2EGHqL29469; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AAF9A51.9A537E24@snet.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:20:33 -0500 From: John Prokopek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Mar 14 16:29:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697802BEA3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from metric.ximian.com ([141.154.95.59]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14414; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:28:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200103142128.QAA14414@trna.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 From: Mark Gordon To: Joshua Rigler Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.12.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 16:11:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700, Joshua Rigler wrote: > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. I've heard some reports of Sawfish focus problems, but nothing specific to Ximian GNOME or Red Hat 7.0. I don't recall enough of the details to know whether they're the cause of your problems. > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I haven't seen this one. Maybe running Mozilla used enough extra memory to make your machine swap enough to make it look like the menus hung. If you'd been running previous Mozilla versions, that's probably not the problem, though. Was this in just one application, or in a wide range of applications? I like running a cpu monitor applet so I can tell when an application goes nuts and starts hogging the CPU, though in some cases applications hang due to networking issues that don't actually consume any CPU to speak of. > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? If it's a window focus issue, I'd look a the window manager. If you like, you can revert to the RH7 version of Sawfish, though it's probably best to do so when not actually running Sawfish... -Mark Gordon From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 14 22:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC542BDE7 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2F3kth14686 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 25 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet 0.9.2 running. This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from MandrakeCooker RPMs). I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old RPMs? Thanks in advance, everyone! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 14 22:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41ADD2D43C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa14085; 14 Mar 2001 22:59 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00627; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB03F22.8D2AFD9A@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:03:46 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Canvas resize bug? References: <20010314170541.CDA322E1A3@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, I notice that when you resize a Gtk or Gnome canvas, any regular GtkWidget contained therein DOES NOT get moved or resized properly. Instead, it remains in it's exact original location. This messes things up majorly. Anyone have a workaround? Like, is there a way to get the message being sent to the canvas for a resize? Perhaps there's a way to pass this info along to the widget? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From mimicky@hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 00:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.123]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4206F2E038 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:25:58 -0800 Received: from 168.28.178.73 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.28.178.73] From: "Micky M" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A7F3F20:01C0AD10] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear all: I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. --Micky. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 00:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5F2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010315053024.CXAY25216.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:24 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12711; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This seems to have something to do with the 2.4 kernel and oaf. It's a mess I think. I really, really like GNOME but lately things are just slow. It almost seems GNOME is living up to it's old self from a year or so ago when people complained about it being slow. Bloat comes to mind but I guess it's the way of the future:-) With a 900MHz athalon, 256Megs of memory and ATA100 drives it should just fly. Maybe I'm expecting to much. Maybe oaf and corba need to be coded in assembly:-) What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill off nautilus/mozilla processes. There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough as a file manager - yet. At any rate what you can do to help is kill oaf off with oaf-slay every time you log out. That seems to help. Any response from GNOME developers on this would be welcome. On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only > ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 > release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet > 0.9.2 running. > > This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from > MandrakeCooker RPMs). > > I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - > I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. > > Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old > RPMs? > > Thanks in advance, everyone! > -- > Sean Middleditch > of > AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Thu Mar 15 01:08:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015CA2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (garnet3-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.3]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 Received: from acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial1002.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.36.138]) by garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA67676; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: "Micky M" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Message-Id: <20010315010759.0d9a2a8c.bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 "Micky M" wrote: > Dear all: > > I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen > with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and > netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please > kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. > > --Micky. The easy answer: at the command line in a terminal window, type "panel &". Brett From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 04:01:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04032BE7D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2F90qc31112; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:00:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Farris Cc: Sean Middleditch , Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill > off nautilus/mozilla processes. I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive and consistent so they dropped support for it. > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > as a file manager - yet. Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. Regards, Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Thu Mar 15 04:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4572D711 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14dUUt-0000li-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB091DB.56C9E207@kscanners.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? No. I've been running Red Hat 7 and Ximian GNOME for quite some time, and haven't come across any major problems. Note, however, that I'm mainly using Red Hat 6 RPMs (we still have some Red Hat 6.2 installations, and I saw no reason for downloading two versions of everything); most of them will work on version 7 as long as you have the "compat" RPMs installed (which is very likely if you have upgraded from version 6). The only exception I can think of is gnome-core. > I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. Sounds to me like a problem with the focus settings in Sawfish. Have you checked "Focus Behaviour" under "Sawfish Window Manager" in the Control Center? ("Dialog windows inherit the focus from their parent" seems somewhat related to your problem.) > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I've never seen that, but then again, I haven't tested Mozilla as such (Galeon - http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - is more usable.) - Toralf From Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org Wed Mar 14 12:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9CF2BAAA; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.43]) by harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with ESMTP id SAA31108; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Received: (from simon@localhost) by vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Spoolhost) id SAA121094; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 From: Simon Budig To: Gimp-developer list Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all. Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for me this year. Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Thanks, Simon -- Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ From reboant@the-i.net Mon Mar 12 15:19:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sam.the-i.net (mail.the-i.net [206.136.176.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DB2DBCB for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from reboant (cca142.the-i.net [206.136.176.142]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab32$1d474b60$8eb088ce@thei.net> From: "Reboant" To: Subject: Self-Compiled Gnome Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:22:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just spent hours compiling gnome on Peanut linux just to find that the = panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an error message saying = "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel applets. I can click one of the side buttons on the panel to hide it then it = will go down to the bottom where it belongs and stay there but that = stupid error message keeps popping up over and over again.I'm going = crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can look at that might = help me Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and all the apps work just fine but no = applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG. There has to be some script or config file that'll set things straight = but I have no clue as to what or where.Could it have something to do = with permissions perhaps?Everything is owned by root just like in = KDE.Could that be a problem? Please help.I'd really like to get this thing working so I can see just = how good gnome really is.Thanks in advance ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just spent hours compiling gnome on = Peanut linux=20 just to find that the panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an = error=20 message saying "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel=20 applets.
 I can click one of the side = buttons on the=20 panel to hide it then it will  go down to the bottom where it = belongs and=20 stay there but that stupid error message keeps popping up over and over=20 again.I'm going crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can = look at=20 that might help me
 Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and = all the=20 apps work just fine but no applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG.
 There has to be some script or = config file=20 that'll set things straight but I have no clue as to what = or where.Could it=20 have something to do with permissions perhaps?Everything = is owned=20 by root just like in KDE.Could  that be a = problem?
Please help.I'd really like to get this = thing=20 working so I can see just how good gnome really is.Thanks in=20 advance
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0-- From joschi@eds.org Wed Mar 14 17:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.eds.org (zen.eds.org [205.179.187.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F452E453 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22320 invoked by uid 33); 14 Mar 2001 22:14:04 -0000 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: joschi@eds.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 64.160.162.151 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! -Josh From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54AF2BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:54 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:47 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dUKV-0000bN-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Sizing panel smaller? Message-ID: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Thanks, Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D12CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:58 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:43 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dXji-0000g9-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend > to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a > simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. > If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would > be appriciated. thanks! It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. root tail Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63F32BDAD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDbMc12659; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:42 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment (horzontal/vertical). Regards, Jens From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 15 08:42:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91752E120 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04466; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:41:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? From: Bart Kuik To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 14:38:35 +0000 Message-Id: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the standard-installation of Red Hat 6.2 is too old. To resize it You have to right-click anywhere on the panel and select : Panel -> Properties -> Size and there are some (7 in v1.3.0) choices from ultra tiny (too small) to ridiculous (too big). If your panel is too old, you'd better upgrade your whole gnome to 1.4 beta2. Very much has been improved in the meantime.... Bart From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 15 08:45:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58B2E29D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2FDjdh06085; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:47:54 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010315084754.D27630@sean.aweplay> References: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 04:01:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 58 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.15 04:01:11 -0500 Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to > kill > > off nautilus/mozilla processes. > > I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing > nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > Ah ha. Maybe that'll get Nautilus running on my system... > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus > development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > What!?! Now I really do have a distaste for Eazel/Nautilus. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like the one feature I wanted in GMC, and now they're never going to add it? And not intuitive? Even the biggest idiot understands how that works in Windows, what's wrong with it in Nautilus!? Argh! > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > Ya, I've done that, and opening a new directory is still less-than-snappy on my 1ghz Athlon.... > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From jwallen@techrepublic.com Thu Mar 15 09:16:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (unknown [208.50.220.170]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E932CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jwallen@localhost) by geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2FEDT411271 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: geddy.tech.techrepublic.com: jwallen owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: "jack wallen, jr." X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome-cal and mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is there a way to configure GNOME calendar to use a specific domain name when sending out e-mail reminders? as it stands it is adding my host name to the e-mail from addy. let me be more specific: jwallen@techrepublic.com is what i need jwallen@geddy.tech.techrepublic.com is what is being used. i realize that i could try to mess with sendmail to solve this problem but let's face it sendmail is not the easiest beast to configure. with applications like pine and such i can configure a specific domain name. so....can this be done with GNOME calendar? thanks a million. -- L I N U X L I N U X ---jack wallen, jr Track editor Linux/Infrastructure--- ----www.techrepublic.com 9900 Corporate Campus Drive----- -------Suite 1500 Louisville, KY 40223 502-814-7741------ X U N I L X U N I L From Melvin.Laney@itt.com Thu Mar 15 09:39:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gate1.itt.com (gate1.itt.com [151.190.254.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8912BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from no.name.available by gate1.itt.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 14:38:34 UT Received: from 151.190.173.213 by fwdcwall.de.ittind.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by fwemail3.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:33 -0500 Message-ID: <16BCA41BECFAD411931E00B0D068A21C1B8081@alexva-mail.alx.aes.de.ittind.com> From: "Laney, Jr., Melvin - AES" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RE: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assert ion Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John, I am also running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X session through Exceed. When I run linuxconf I get the errors listed below on my terminal. The app runs fine despite the error messages. I don't know why either. At least we know this is a consistent problem which isn't specific to your machine. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. -----Original Message----- From: John Prokopek [mailto:jprokopek@snet.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 09:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5A02BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FEndc16605; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? > > Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. > Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can > drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment > (horzontal/vertical). Oops, got something wrong here. Erm. Bart gave a good answer to this question. Sorry, but maybe my information was also useful ;-). Jens From ninetyninewaystodie@mailcity.com Thu Mar 15 10:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6238B2BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu Mar 15 07:04:27 2001 To: "Gnome General Mailing" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:27 -0500 From: "Salvatore Innanone" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? X-Sender-Ip: 198.62.209.10 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 10:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38A52E444 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W431C3; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6LJR; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZSl-0003oI-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: todo list Message-ID: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 10:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4D2CDD0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010315152539.GLLT4364.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:25:39 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02219; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100, Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > You know that statement is just down right wrong. Intuitiveness is in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone thinks or sees things the same way. The mailing list is a testament to the fact that people actually do want a copy a paste function. Providing this as a feature would have been a very nice option. It could be a preference that is turned on. > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > > Regards, > Jens How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a pain. From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 11:03:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from oxera.wanadoo.fr (unknown [193.252.19.223]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425322BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by oxera.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:03:28 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.234.217) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:02:53 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZa3-0000m6-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? Solved-Thanks Message-ID: <20010315162223.J214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:38:35PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik wrote: > You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the I'll have to pop it back on or look at my distro to see what version, Running potato... Thanks for the tip. received lot's of help, so thanks all for pointing out what I should have known if I'd spent more time on Gnome. My fault. Thanks again. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 11:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (mgate11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.158]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA932DBC9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id BAA03912 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id BAA15643 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, Gregory. > Hello here > > I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest > libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, > audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome > apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from > control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV > in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from > gnome-core 1.2.4): Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. # ./configure --disable-xim # make --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 15 11:24:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED2BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14daOX-000107-00; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: jacob berkman To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 are you running nautilus, or did you just install it? something that makes me suspicious is the fact that i get this message when i start nautilus: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory (this stems from me running devfs and not having a sound module loaded) it may be the case that nautilus is grabbing the sound device, and the other apps are trying to start esd or something. this is a common cause for app startup time slowdowns. jacob -- C-x i .signature From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 11:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B8202DDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05773; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:53:28 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma005770; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:53:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00363; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:58 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma000361; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:37:57 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04009; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA01130; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:50 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:37:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello, Gregory. >> Hello here >> >> I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest >> libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, >> audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome >> apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from >> control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV >> in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from >> gnome-core 1.2.4): FK> Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. FK> # ./configure --disable-xim FK> # make Thank you for your answer. I have got a new hope :) Currently I am trying to recompile all the gnome on solaris 7 (then will try to run what I get on solaris 8) so I will try your suggestion if I fail. Just out of curiosity, what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? -- Gregory From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 12:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (mgate10.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.157]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EB22DCB9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id CAA07596 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id CAA22027; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:45 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Funamoto Kazuhisa Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-NetHack-Code: NH 3.2.0U D [++ )++ P S+ D+ p- $ t- s- W E--- PS- PP+ G+ C+ I++ @W(wt) N-- b-- B- Y+ X- !So Sp++ !sb wb? User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) X-Face: JOl,T8(g~z&U-#td+1VvWOmUcOJ23za4U_M%6t^OrF{8NYMU1.9Xzy@/oq$E$$H!G|P^R9t k?D/%4KGJ:hF')gk?mzqrspzl$aow&{5b5f=-c/.6e8#`55C4*u1#{nz!":j)t8Zo)o_|d|(6AnUcJ ^Y;9VyFSYc@RC^DK[5(V Hello. I'm sorry for my poor english. > what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be > something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also # solves the problem. I don't know which is wrong. > to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? To tell the truth, there is an another solution, just run a xim application before running gtk+ applications. Then, you can enter non ascii in the widgets. But you have to prepare xim application such as skkinput or kinput2. --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 15 12:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C92BD3F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30078; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: George Farris Cc: Jens Finke , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > pain. You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and counterintuitive. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From liguo.song@vanderbilt.edu Thu Mar 15 13:36:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer4.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.214]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F832BC89 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (nlog.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.116.216]) by mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id MAA26673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:36:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:34:52 -0600 From: Liguo Song X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GnomeList Subject: Shortcut icons on desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear Gnomers, How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the desktop? I tried to grep -r CDROM /usr/*, but find nothing. :( Thanks for your help! Liguo (Leo) From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 13:37:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 789422C891 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06267; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:50:33 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma006264; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:50:11 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01701; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:55 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma001699; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:34:36 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09804; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA01375; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:32 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II (problem solved) References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 21:34:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello. FK> I'm sorry for my poor english. >> what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be >> something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able FK> Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. FK> When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. FK> # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also FK> # solves the problem. Yay! Your answer made me look in a right direction. I decided to try --disable-xim-inst before I disable xim completely, since by the stack trace it seems that installation of some king of a handler causes the problem and everything works fine now! And I can enter cyrillic too. Thank you :) -- Gregory From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 15:18:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC22CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:38 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4PYH4; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NG1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14de5H-0004He-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 To: Gnome General Mailing Subject: Re: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? Message-ID: <20010315151055.F2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome General Mailing References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500, Salvatore Innanone wrote: > Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with > 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be > found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and > select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when > creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) > and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere > either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things > more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody > Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), > and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am > also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be > tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? No idea, but just for reference, I'm running Debian 2.2, plus XFree 4.0.2 (which is available in unstable btw), and Ximian Gnome, and that doesn't happen to me. *shrug* Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From jwkim@MIT.EDU Thu Mar 15 15:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7552CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02669; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27826; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08758; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id PAA32495; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since > the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are > plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Thu Mar 15 16:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75E2BD08 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id BAAF8390C1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FF390C0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: compile error gnome-libs 1.2.12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, when i try to compile gnome-libs (using --enable-prefer-db1) i get the following error: make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o libgnome.la ../support/libgnomesupport.la -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o .libs/libgnome.so -lglib -lm -ldl -lz -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib gnome-dump.o: In function `main': gnome-dump.o(.text+0x43): undefined reference to `dbopen' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [gnome-dump-metadata] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 when i try to compile it without --prefer-enable-db1 i get somewhat the same error except for 'undefined referece to 'dbopen'', which is changed to 'undefined reference to '__db185_open''. i've installed both db1.85 and db2.7.7 with 1.85 support. anyone got a clue? hanne. From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 17:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD042CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:37 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4QF1W; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NL6; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:21 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14df6v-0004N4-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list Message-ID: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwkim@MIT.EDU on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the to-do list. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 22:44:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F492BDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010316034422.ZYLP27164.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:22 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200103160344.TAA03906@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: John Nelson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500, John Nelson wrote: > On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > > pain. > > You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT > from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had > one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find > the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and > counterintuitive. > Yup sure could. I'm also pretty disappointed that one can't even view rpm or tar.gz files which is something gmc has been able to do forever. Anyway I'm willing to be patient after all this is just a 1.0 release. I question whether it should be moved to the stable branch on ftp.gnome.org however. I really, really don't want the same thing to happen like last time GNOME was rushed out the door. What a lot of bad press:-( From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 00:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7562BEBE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA00331; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA21117; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA15542; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id AAA00246; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Okay, then I should go ahead and use jpilot instead. Do you know how I can remove gnome pilot? It automatically starts when gnome starts and I have no idea how to remove this... adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) > > I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day > specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the > to-do list. > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From rjp@mail.tele.dk Fri Mar 16 03:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB02BC87; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CF102AB5; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:18:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tele.dk (IDENT:rjp@port110.cvx1-hb.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.232.111]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64481; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rjp@mail.tele.dk) Message-ID: <3AB1CC35.3F7B50F7@mail.tele.dk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:17:57 +0100 From: "Rebecca J. Walter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 To: egger@suse.de Cc: jens@gnome.org, Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 References: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I get back from the US on the 6th. I could probably help out the 7-8th if i could get some help with my travel expenses. I may not be the best person though since I don't speak a word of German and I'm not a coder. but let me know. bex From mandreiana@rdsnet.ro Fri Mar 16 03:49:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from corporate.fx.ro (corporate.fx.ro [193.231.208.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBA2BC3E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fx.ro (Beavis.fx.ro [193.231.208.21]) by corporate.fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mnq04499; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:50 +0200 Received: from rdsnet.ro ([193.231.212.69]) by fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mn632197; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3AB1D36C.6B679720@rdsnet.ro> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:44 +0200 From: Marius Andreiana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Those are created by magicdev, afaik. You can remove magicdev from the default session. -- Marius Andreiana From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 05:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f33.hotmail.com [216.32.181.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B7F2BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:59:17 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Panrl Problem Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[25676B80:01C0AE08] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel option is picked. When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in the middle after restarting X. Any ideas? At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? TIA -Ants. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From darin@eazel.com Fri Mar 16 12:00:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A38012DC5E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:16 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Louis Garcia , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/15/01 11:46 PM, Louis Garcia at louisg00@bellsouth.net wrote: > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when using > nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel starts. When > nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second and then nautilus > redraws the background and places the icons on the desktop. It doesn't seem to > be anything wrong, it just doesn't look right. It's a bug we'd like to fix some day . -- Darin From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 17:17:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48C2BEBF for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA12810 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.85]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA28504 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25736 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id RAA01212; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... adlar From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Fri Mar 16 19:57:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A02BD19 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck.finkployd.com (gordon.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2DCgO003181 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:42:24 GMT Message-Id: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Subject: Session Manager Capplet From: cduck To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:00:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. thanks, -chris From ash@darkstar.gnome.org Fri Mar 16 23:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darkstar (host-216-78-86-34.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE072C9FE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2H4W9272769 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous gnome has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not get past zvt though due to an undefined reference: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' *** Error code 1 my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep on ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference to it is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing I've had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. thanks austin From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 05:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-137.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161C2BD21 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2HAfdg00382 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:38 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au>; from nhems@linuxfreemail.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yea, i got bit by that once the first time I ever compilied gnome; so that was one of the first things i double checked. austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From kabalak@gmx.net Sat Mar 17 06:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38D672C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26390 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from b8039.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.57) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14eEZG-0000LF-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010317120818.A1309@gmx.net> References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. It's in gnome-core now. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From alex80it@libero.it Sat Mar 17 06:15:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2732C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from libero.it (151.29.192.59) by smtp1.libero.it (5.5.022) id 3AB1F23300031A34 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:15:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB346C0.198F5928@libero.it> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:13:04 +0100 From: Alex Damiani X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Screensaver exits account! Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have a proble with my screensaver. I am running redHat Linux 7, and in Gnome, if I don't do anything for a few mins, the screensaver starts, but instead of showing me what I had chosen, it exits my account and asks to log in again. If I try to access the GNOME configuration tool, and I click on the "Screensaver" icon on the left hand side, it still exits my account without letting me change the settings. Could you tell me what's wrong, and, most of all, how to fix it? Is there a place I can go to look for a configuration file for the screensaver, that I can reset, or something? thanks in advance, Alex From ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl Sat Mar 17 07:37:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E532C934 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1055 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:35:47 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Slooten X-Sender: To: Adlar Kim Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. there... gone ;-) I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) Ralph On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > adlar > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz From federico@ximian.com Sat Mar 17 10:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [148.223.152.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0D2D2AB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07903; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Message-Id: <200103170249.UAA07903@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-memfrob: Frobnicate N bytes of S. To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Liguo Song writes: > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Bring up the context menu for the icons and select "Delete". Federico From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sat Mar 17 11:16:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3EF2DBF5 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24411; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29624; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id LAA02483; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Ralph Slooten Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... adlar On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > From jlwallen@home.com Sat Mar 17 11:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585AB2CB43 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com ([24.10.87.23]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010317164828.ONPK20878.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com> for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:48:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jack Wallen X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome 1.4 not starting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm -q gnome-core i'm getting: gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? -- \||/ J A C K 00 Not an even field to be on > Feels like standing still - for eons and eons W A L L E N From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sat Mar 17 12:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCB2DF60 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id CABBB38AA0; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBA38A9F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, when starting gnome i get this: /convert: No such file or directory gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. and then a whole load of these messages, each with another image. anyone got an idea what the problem can be? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sat Mar 17 12:58:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9E32BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11184; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24732; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Message-ID: <3AB3A560.8AE73E49@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:56:48 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wallen Cc: gnome list Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 not starting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-core-1.3.0 is as far as I know the latest version, and that included in GNOME 1.4beta2 (well, it's the one I have anyway). Upon the final release I assume the version number will be changed to 1.4.0. Jack Wallen wrote: > i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is > starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm > -q gnome-core i'm getting: > > gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 > > how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? From jbrownin@runbox.com Sat Mar 17 13:37:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5162BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-16-239.kems.net ([168.187.16.239]) by pluto.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14eLZB-0002iv-00; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:36:42 +0100 Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? From: Jeff Browning To: Adlar Kim Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 17 Mar 2001 21:39:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you're using an RPM based distrib, as root, type in rpm -e gnome-pilot to remove the package. Jeff On 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I > thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... > > adlar > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > > there... gone ;-) > > > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > > > Ralph > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > > > adlar > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From drifter@outerlounge.de Sat Mar 17 13:58:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-140.gwdg.de (RAS23-140.gwdg.de [134.76.23.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B912BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HIveg20830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 From: Jens Stroebel To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: Jens Stroebel , gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: ; from noodle@pigforce.warande.net on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100, Hanne wrote: > hi, hiya, > when starting gnome i get this: > /convert: No such file or directory this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... wrong. Quite a few things use it. HTH, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 23:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-85-186.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.85.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D2BE08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HNqNX19799 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317185222.A19779@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Friday 16 March, Austin hall gripes: > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs > but the building process will not get past zvt... On examination of gnome-libs-1.2.9/Makefile i find this: ZVT_LIBS = -lzvt -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm is this correct? is there a more gnome-inclined individual then myself who can tell me if i am missing any kind of library. thanks austin From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Sun Mar 18 00:26:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15A2BE08 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA17217 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3AB4464A.FDC16F4D@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:22 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ralph Slooten wrote: > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... Actually, the developer's name begins with a J, and that's where it gets it's name. It's in the docs. > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 02:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498802DC73 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust119.tnt13.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.120.119]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 4CF2428AA for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Keyboard question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel menu? P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 04:50:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA9AC2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6027 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p75.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:48:28 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: gnome-ist Subject: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 2503 Lines: 51 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I try to compile gnome-vfs-1.0.0, but the compilation doesn't succeed. It stops at: make[3]: Entering directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c rm -f .libs/http-method.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o libs/http-method.lo http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Do I miss a paricular lib? Thanks. Best regards, Klaus From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 06:11:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C72BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust87.tnt30.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.154.87]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 1003B2887 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:15:38 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bitmap format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot (file type not resolution) THNX in advance for any help... From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 18 06:18:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB892BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14807 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Received: from 213-21-43-234.surf-callino.de (213.21.43.234) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 In-Reply-To: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > libs/http-method.lo > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without > a cast > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. Regards, Jens From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:34:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBA2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICYqx06764 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181234.f2ICYqx06764@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Evolution and the Pilot Connect Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I thought that after you install Ximian Gnome and Evolution that options would appear in the Gnome config tool so that you could hook link the two during a hot sync, or am I missing something somewhere? Thanks Sean From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157B32BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICdax10614 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181239.f2ICdax10614@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pilot and Calendar Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When syncing a pilot with the Gnome desktop, how do I get my appointments to appear in the default calendar? I'm not sure what file to open, though I have looked and when doing a sync it does open the calendar, but no appointments appear. The address info all appears fine in the Gnome Card file app. I'm running Ximian Gnome on RH 7.0 with all the latest updates through the "Red Carpet Installer". Thanks Sean From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sun Mar 18 07:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50212BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id 1D92338A87; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767C38567 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:29 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 In-Reply-To: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Jens Stroebel wrote: > > when starting gnome i get this: > > /convert: No such file or directory > > this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... > same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the > space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... > wrong. Quite a few things use it. thanks, i installed Imagemagick, and now this convert error is gone. which leaves me with: gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. anyone? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 10:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DC92BB31 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24013 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p88.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.88) by mail.gmx.net (mp024-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:39:35 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> References: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:18:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 48 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion But : $ gconf-config --version 1.0.0 $ gconf-config --libs -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Regards, Klaus On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > > libs/http-method.lo > > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer > without > > a cast > > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. > > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792C2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01165 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318163710.B1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 08:44:55AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 0844.55 +0100): > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel > menu? Go to Panel Global Config, and in Misc tab, enable the Bindings section. By clicking in the capture buttons you will only need to push the keys you want. As the rare symbol keys are normally set to Meta or another modifier, you will have to hit it plus a normal key (like "X" or "Z", similar to "Shift + Z", but "Symbol + Z", which will appear listed as "Meta + Z" or "Mod# + Z" when you use the capture option). > P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) Maybe you will have to play with xmodmap cmd to change config if the key is not detected, it should if you chose the right model when installing. Try xev and see if the key produces something. You will also need to use "xmodmap" if you want it to work as normal key instead as a modifier. But trust me, it is better as modifier, cos you can do all your window management with it (maximize, minizme, change desktop), instead of wasting it with a single task. Having it as Hyper (L and R) removes a lot of problems, not more "When I hit Alt + Mouse1 it moves the window instead of doing foo function of bar app, as manual describes". Note: I dunno why but my computer does not launch menu panel ("Hyper + X" here), I will wait for 1.4, maybe it is fixed there. It worked with Gnome 1.2.2, but not since I got the 1.2.4 core, it just flashes focus. I do not care much either, I just used it for the Log Out entry and a few more things. I also found that as I have Hyper_R and Hyper_L, the config tool has both, but does not allows to use both at the same time. Using a keycombo it gives Mod4 (plus the normal key), with both Hyper_R and Hyper_L, which is a lot nicer (I can use any hand, instead of being locked into usin only one side). GSR From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED02BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01137 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:15:38PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > (file type not resolution) Try "man xsetroot" for info. But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters would give you an image in root window placed as you want). GSR From olau@hardworking.dk Sun Mar 18 11:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B0542BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5876 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: from 30.ppp1-2.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.158) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IGdPn07109; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Pim Schellart's message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the > pannel menu? Does the "grab key" button in foot menu->settings->desktop->panel->misc. recognize the key? Else you have to tell X about it first. One way to do that is to put something like keycode 115 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R clear Mod4 add Mod4 = Hyper_L add Mod4 = Hyper_R keycode 117 = XF86Start in .Xmodmap and run xmodmap .Xmodmap (or restart X, however that isn't needed). This makes the Micros~2 flag keys work as modifier keys (like Meta) which you can use for, for instance, window manager bindings instead of Meta to avoid clashes between programs like Emacs and the global bindings - nowadays Sawfish even has an easy way to switch all bindings from the default (Meta, I think) modifier to Hyper. The last Windows key is bound to XF86Start which you can then bind with the "grab key" button to start the panel menu. If you really want all your Windows keys to act as menu shortcuts, try something like keycode 115 = XF86Start keycode 116 = XF86Start keycode 117 = XF86Start instead. There might be another, more descriptive key symbol than XF86Start - I wouldn't know since I don't use my extra key for a panel shortcut but rather the slash '/' since it is placed very unhandy in the Danish keyboard layout. All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 12:38:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BFD2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01517 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:39:25PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 1739.25 +0100): > All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - > check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. I have: ---8<--- Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" [...] LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control [...] XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc105)+es" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc105" XkbLayout "es" EndSection --->8--- And I use as .Xmodmap the following: ---8<--- ! Alt works as Alt and as Meta keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L ! Make the rare key work as Hyper clear mod4 keycode 115 = Hyper_L add mod4 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R add mod4 = Hyper_R ! The menu key works as compose keycode 117 = Multi_key --->8--- So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. GSR From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 15:35:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F332DC53 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:36:49 +0200 Subject: gnome 1.4 release schedule From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:36:16 +0200 Message-ID: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? Bye...... From hermanr@mailroom.com Sun Mar 18 16:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37D2BC57 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (p0771.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.8]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2IL6Iq00101 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:06:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:07:09 +0100 From: Herman Roozenbeek To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: launch feedback capplet in control-center 1.4.0? Message-ID: <20010318220709.A10106@bommelstein.wanadoo.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In the help file for control-center 1.4.0, I see an item concerning the "Launch Feedback" capplet. But I can't find it nowhere... What has happened to it? Herman From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 16:38:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B82C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:39:40 +0200 Subject: gnome file open dialog. From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day when gnome will be as easy and productive to use as kde is? I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there where it should be. From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sun Mar 18 16:48:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4330C2C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa20937; 18 Mar 2001 21:47 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24823; 18 Mar 2001 21:46 GMT Message-ID: <3AB52CE0.372B1D27@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:47:12 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome file open dialog. References: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Isn't the GNOME file dialog just the standard GTK+ one? GTK+ certainly needs a better dialog - a button for the ~ directory should be there at the very least, and I would definitely prefer something closer to what KDE2 has. One hopes GTK+ 2 has better dialogs planned, but it would be nice to see better ones added to GTK 1.2. Surely it's not too hard to replace the dialog with something nicer without breaking the interface? That's the point of using a fake OO architecture for the library in the first place isn't it? And if one can't be put in GTK+, perhaps one should be added to gnome-libs. Leon Chiver wrote: > I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, > HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day > when gnome will be as easy and productive to > use as kde is? > > I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there > where it should be. From jh0u@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:14:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f38.hotmail.com [216.32.181.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329C2BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Received: from 63.209.94.121 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.209.94.121] From: "ordinary user" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7BAD5F0:01C0AFF8] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an impossible situation?... Any help would be appreciated. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sun Mar 18 18:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3372BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2IN10H09212; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103182301.f2IN10H09212@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: Three stupid questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Pim Schellart Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) > > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle > but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window > manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the > graphics to look > good to :-) That's an enlightenment theme issue... ask on the enlightenment list (e-develop@enlightenment.org) The theme determines what the startup looks like, so it sounds like Blue Steel is missing something... --Ben > Thank you all in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 18:33:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769D72BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm14-a33.dial.sovam.com ([195.218.132.33]:1408 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:37 +0300 Received: (qmail 3817 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7476 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C20010317001205=2EA5344=40flame-in-night=2Etaurussoft=2Eorg?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=3E=3B_from_dmitry=40taurussoft=2Eorg_on_=F3=C2=D4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_17=2C_2001_at_00:12:05_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP localnet folder. From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 19:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAE32E1EE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12507; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > Hi All! > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): 1. add yourself to the mail group 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant for Evo to import it > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > useless for me :( I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some > differnt ways. Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you imply in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and I'm sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security wise but they are still options. > > Dmitry > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > process my IMAP localnet folder. Evolution handles IMAP fine... Jeff From subb3@attglobal.net Sun Mar 18 20:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caesar.lynix.com (cc885639-a.flushing1.mi.home.com [24.182.96.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BFC52DCE0 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4501 invoked by uid 1005); 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000 From: Subba Rao To: Gnome Users Subject: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports Message-ID: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Reply-To: Subba Rao Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different login session, the applets were using different ports. Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Subba Rao subb3@attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ From darin@eazel.com Sun Mar 18 21:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C92D3B7 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:00:58 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 From: Darin Adler To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: Gnome Users , Jens Finke Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: >>> -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o >>> libs/http-method.lo >>> http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': >>> http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >>> http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) >>> http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' >>> http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer >> without >>> a cast >>> http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 >>> make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' >>> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: >> Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. on 3/18/01 7:39 AM, Klaus Dahlke at klaus.dahlke@gmx.de wrote: > $ gconf-config --version > 1.0.0 > > $ gconf-config --libs > -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP > -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Perhaps you have two sets of the gconf headers. Maybe gconf is installed in two different prefixes. The error above are definitely an example of the gnome-vfs compile including headers from an old gconf. -- Darin From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 22:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA42BE8C for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts18-a257.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.6.3]:1565 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:19 +0300 Received: (qmail 4441 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 2001 03:39:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C984961259=2E10834=2E0=2Ecamel=40tazmanian-devil=2Ehelixcod?= =?KOI8-R?Q?e=2Ecom=3E=3B_from_fejj=40ximian=2Ecom_on_=F0=CE=C4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_19=2C_2001_at_03:20:58_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 62 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion îÁ đÎÄ, 19 íÁŇ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÎÁĐÉÓÁĚ: > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > Hi All! > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > mail? > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on /var/spool/mail > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) Fully agree with "not recommended" > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > for > Evo to import it So I'll have to dup my messages? > > > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only > Evo > > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > > useless for me :( > > I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. Because it's some more work, some more tuning? some more disk space. Balsa do it without tricks att all. > > > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by > some > > differnt ways. > > Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you > imply > in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and > I'm > sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security > wise > but they are still options. All proposed by you methods are SYSTEM methods. Is Evo itself able to deal with existing mboxes (in camel part not to use camel_movemail() )? Why I should make 'magic passes' when other programs don't require them? > > > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > > process my IMAP localnet folder. > > Evolution handles IMAP fine... > I'm not doubt about it, Evolution works fine and with mboxes but only purges them after itself ;) I've liked Evo look and feel but until it uses camel_movemail() by default (more clear without alternative) I don't want to use it. Dmitry From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 23:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACC62D1DE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28135; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:16:29 -0500 Message-Id: <984975390.15839.2.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > ˝Đ żÝÔ, 19 źĐŕ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÝĐßŘáĐŰ: > > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > > mail? > > > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail > Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on > /var/spool/mail Okay, I guess I misunderstood you. You're complaining that Evolution sucks all the mail out of /var/spool/mail/$USER by itself, even without the use of a movemail program. I thought you were complaining that Evolution had to use an external movemail program for you (because Evolution wasn't able to lock /var/spool/mail by itself). > > > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) > Fully agree with "not recommended" > > > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > > for > > Evo to import it > So I'll have to dup my messages? Currently, yes. However, we are working on a way so that you won't have to. Jeff From jens@se.linux.org Mon Mar 19 02:33:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from missfunny.se.linux.org (unknown [195.22.75.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5A2BAB1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jens@localhost) by missfunny.se.linux.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J7adC07367 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:38 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Hjalmarsson To: Subject: Sound and X from remote computers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am searching for information regarding the possibility to make GNOME send it's sound to a sound server on a remote machine (when someone on that remote machine logs into a server, with X). Since GNOME comes with esd, I was trying to get it to work remotely, but no luck yet. I made a very small patch (I am no developer, but I do know a tiny bit C) for Enlightenment, which actually worked (amazingly enough), but the same thing for GNOME seems to fail. The source (gnome-libs/-1.2.9/libgnome/gnome-sound.c) contains gnome_sound_connection = esd_open_sound (esound_hostname); which means that this should work, and I tried putting this line above esound_hostname = getenv("ESPEAKER"); Should this be enough? Is there a place where you actually can tell it to use the ESPEAKER variable (which is standard for the apps that come with esound)? Jens From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 08:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A282E17E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04049 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:04:37 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. From: G Annamalai Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello All, I have finally managed to configure my X windows. The X server is working fine now. But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. Virtual 1280 1024 I did this but it didn't help. Can anybody help me? Thanx in advance. Cheers, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 09:12:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428C2E14A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ox-0008Gt-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:51 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ow-00057l-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:50 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JDeZ201240; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:40:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "Suse-Linux-E" , "Gnome-List" Subject: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs etc and start again by hand. Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove Ive already done the rpms etc Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR thanks dids From jacob@ximian.com Mon Mar 19 09:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81702DD3C for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14f0jf-0003L8-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports From: jacob berkman To: Subba Rao Cc: Gnome Users In-Reply-To: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> References: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Message-Id: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000, Subba Rao wrote: > Hi, > > I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services > installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on > to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a > little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that > different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. > I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different > login session, the applets were using different ports. > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: ORBIIOPUSock=1 ORBIIOPIPv4=0 ORBIIOPIPv6=0 jacob -- C-x i .signature From j.parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 11:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk (prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.76.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33E62DDFC for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.85.11]) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14f2Tk-0002XX-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:25:56 +0000 Received: by endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:17:03 -0000 Message-ID: <5FE97DD96380D111821E00805F2720E901E5BA8C@endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk> From: John Parsons To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:16:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Scanner: exiscan *14f2Tk-0002XX-00*fEiZUcrbH9w* Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion One of my RedHat 6.2 server crahsed last Friday, and now I keep getting the following message in /var/log/messages: init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes I am not running gdm locally, but do need to provide X logon for terminal clients. Every five minutes I keep getting the following sort of message on the console: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (5366), but seems to have been murdered mysteriously. "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Can someone help me please, as I am not all that hot with all the X stuff. It was working fine before the reboot on Friday, now it doesn't work at all. Cheers John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ John Parsons Network & Servers Team Leader Surrey Satellite Technology Limited Email: J.Parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Phone: 01483 879278 Ext. 3634 Mobile: 07836 248733 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe010.worldonline.dk (fe010.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.195]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DD82D620 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2JIErB01428; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:14:53 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: Ole Laursen Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:14:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: G Annamalai's message of "19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530" Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. You probably have some lines in XF86Config like Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection [...] The mode lines tells X which resolutions it may use - you can switch between them with Ctrl + Alt + Keypad +/-. The largest resolution will be used as the size of the desktop so if you want a smaller one, simply delete the offending mode. I hope this helps? BTW, the first mode in the list will be used when you start up so unless you like small resolutions, put the largest one up in front as I have done with mine. You could also delete all modes except the one you actually use, but then you lose the sometimes useful ability to quickly "zoom" in by switching resolution with the C-A-+/- combinations. > I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar > question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the > "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. > > Virtual 1280 1024 Didn't know this one, maybe I'll try it one day - I sometimes need some extra space. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe050.worldonline.dk (fe050.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.206]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0A3B2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2734 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe050.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IMFU001056; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:15:30 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:15:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"'s message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as > Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of > keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 19 13:27:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (156-MAD2-X31.libre.retevision.es [62.83.131.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB7C2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01530 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010319192714.A1527@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:15:28PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 2315.28 +0100): > Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with > the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier > to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta > to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding > again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. Yep, it mapped Meta to Rare Symbol. I preffer to have matching hw and config (imagine that you define your keyboard in one place and it is used to config all the required items). If the user knows what is going, no problem at all. GSR From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 13:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D52BAAA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-00035v-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-0006Mc-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JIGSR02808 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:16:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids Reply-To: mail@diddyland.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 but when i try to i get this message 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) *** was found! I Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? thanks dids From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:18:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E52BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6xW020252 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:59:36 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:32 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 16:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1892CED9 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0005aH-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0001XD-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JLQvR05151; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:26:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "chris grierson" , Subject: RE: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:06:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks thats the kind of info im looking for ! regards dids > -----Original Message----- > From: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]On > Behalf Of chris grierson > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:22 PM > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to > remove > > > for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' > for the old version > > assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did > a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this > generally solves a lot of problems. > > otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see > what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. > > you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig > -f ' (assuming has all your library > paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and > running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file > > i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to > manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall > if that was the actual step that solved my problem... > > -chris > > (sorry if this is too basic to help...) > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 > dids wrote: > > > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > > > but when i try to i get this message > > > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > > *** was found! I > > > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and > remove them ??? > > > > thanks > > dids > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From roberto@susq.com Mon Mar 19 17:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from phl-fw-dmz.susq.com (phl-fw-dmz.susq.com [141.162.101.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927CE2CA84 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from trex-12.mds.susq.com by phl-fw-dmz.susq.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:41:33 UT Received: from claymore (claymore.dev.susq.com [141.162.1.43]) by trex.dev.susq.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05484 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: Roberto Moral To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs Message-Id: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Organization: Susquehanna Partners, GP. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. Thank you in advance. -- ============================================================================== == Roberto Moral Denche == == == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == == roberto@susq.com == to go away == == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == ============================================================================== == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == == strictly prohibited. == ============================================================================== From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 22:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F5F2BAF1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19150 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:08:14 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: G Annamalai Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:15:08 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Himanshu J. Gohel" writes: > Hi Anna > > On 19-Mar-01, you wrote: > > -=> But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > -=> an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > -=> all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. > > Is this something as trivial as your window manager presenting you with > virtual screens? Can you turn that option on in your window manager (you Enlightenment -----------------^ > didn't say which one you were using). Oh.. I posted this question here 'cos basically I couldn't tell whether it is gnome related or xfree86 related, but was subscribed to gnome list, only a few days ago. The question that I asked was there in the xfree86 faq (Q.D2). ( http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/#virtual ) I guess I should have read it first. I am sorry if this annoyed anyone. FWIW, I initially had in XF86Config file Section "Screen" ... Subsection "Display" ... Modes "800x600" "640x480" "1024x768" ... I changed the Modes line to Modes "800x600" "640x480" In 1024x768 mode my screen was flickering badly. So removed it, instead of keeping it somewhere in the "Modes". Also I removed the "Virtual" parameter. Now its all working fine. Thanks for all those who tried to help me out. I have one more question, though. Just to make sure I know whats happening. I have depth 8, 16 and 24 in my XF86Config file. Which depth is chosen by default? For me all the commands - "startx" "startx -- -bpp 16" "startx -- -bpp 24" seems to look the same. Well, I guess thats another XFree86 question! Maybe I'll try someother place. But then, if somebody can reply me personally (instead of on this list), I would be happy. Thanks and Regards, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Tue Mar 20 02:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B32CB77 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13718 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28251 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:59:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09932 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: 1.4 for download References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A40@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where can I find binaries or sources to download. I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. JRC -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Tue Mar 20 05:17:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF302BAF1 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF9317B3B; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (jeeves [129.241.56.14]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933917AC3; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havardw@localhost) by jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id f2KAHIl13744; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: jeeves.stud.ntnu.no: havardw owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_Wigtil?= To: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: 1.4 for download In-Reply-To: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jean-Raymond.Chauviere wrote: > Where can I find binaries or sources to download. > I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. Gnome 1.4 isn't out yet, but you can usually find release candidate 1 at a mirror near you at GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/. If that doesn't work, try http://ftp.acc.umu.se/Public/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ H=E5vard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrap=E9 un Fraggle! From lavasani@connect.org.uk Tue Mar 20 06:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea.connect.org.uk (gaea.connect.org.uk [195.188.160.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564292DE7F for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (lavasani@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk [138.253.127.164]) by gaea.connect.org.uk with ESMTP id f2KBODb14279 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:13 GMT From: "M. Lavasani" Received: (from lavasani@localhost) by quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (8.11.1/CONNECT-DTS-3.0D10) id f2KBOCb25691 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 GMT Message-Id: <200103201124.f2KBOCb25691@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Is this the right ordr ? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion looking at the page : http://www.gnome.org/start/installing/index.php3 There is a list of program that needed for Gnome desktop. Most of the program in the list are old (eg the latest stable version of gnome-libs is 1.2.13 but the list recommands gnome-libs-1.2.3 ). Is this for any special reason or just the page has not been updated ?? Any help appreciated. Thanks __Mehdi From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 07:48:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907EF2BA85; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fLYa-0005gE-05; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:12 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.68]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fLYO-1NtrEmC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:00 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00566; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:41 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 really is :) What I can come up with is: - Nautilus - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) - More documentation - Bugfixes ;) - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) - "Fifth Toe" applications package - reorganisation of gnome-utils - ... [gosh, I need help] Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! Thanks a lot. mawa -- schmooz, n.: Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. schmooz collector, n.: Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. From jdub@aphid.net Tue Mar 20 07:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.229]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208142CDC5; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax48-043.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.202.43]) by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2KCuol00705; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:56:52 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A2361D7A; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320235717.L24812@aphid.net> References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. Do mention the menu triangulation code when you bring up GTK+ 1.2.9, it is one of the most wonderful additions to GNOME 1.4. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 17:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48242BF5D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fUxW-0003hQ-02; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:34 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.211]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fUxR-0L7BqaC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA31270; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:31 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Weird Nautilus crash Message-ID: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi people, for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet it crashes everytime: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 #2 0x8070efa in main () I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the last time.) Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? mawa -- [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:01:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721E2C88B for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA29675 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210101.UAA29675@mail3.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:03:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/plain It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (mail5.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D352BD51 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA21014 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: control-center default urls From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:08:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/plain Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:20:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (mail4.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4471F2C852 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA26801 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:25:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:21:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/plain Ok guys last question, I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide? Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ok guys last question,

I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide?

Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12-- From ramiro@eazel.com Tue Mar 20 20:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784C2BD51; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (fw.fateware.com [64.121.110.146]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAIX7600.TPB; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AB8028E.AF5AD48@eazel.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:26 -0800 From: Ramiro Estrugo Organization: Eazel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com Subject: Re: Weird Nautilus crash References: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The best place to post this is nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com. I set the followup to there. This sounds like a serious problem and I would like to help you figure it out. Can you file a bug at http://bugzilla.eazel.com ? Also try to put as much information as possible in the bug report to help someone reproduce and debug the problem. You can also try hanging out in #nautilus on irc.gnome.org and one of the Nautilus hackers can help you debug the problem. -re Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi people, > > for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet > it crashes everytime: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; > > #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 > #2 0x8070efa in main () > > I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my > translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash > down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why > I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the > last time.) > > Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? > > mawa > -- > [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the > "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. > -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Tue Mar 20 21:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793B12BD08 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GV3KW24Q; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list Subject: Best gnome debugging/development environment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From alan.patterson@Nexan.com Wed Mar 21 03:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nx-mail.nexan.com (nx-mail.nexan.com [195.153.150.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B852BA85 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by nx-mail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:38 -0000 Message-ID: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: Alan Patterson To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gnome-terminal Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Embarrassingly simple question. gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? Cheers, Alan Patterson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" gnome-terminal

Embarrassingly simple question.
gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though
I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do.

Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ?

Cheers,
        Alan Patterson

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C-- From Catherine.Roult@idris.fr Wed Mar 21 05:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lumiere.idris.fr (lumiere.idris.fr [130.84.8.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32202DB69 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mira.idris.fr (root@mira.idris.fr [130.84.12.100]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA494101 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from idris.fr (linder@loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mira.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA72466 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:17 +0100 From: Catherine Roult X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Workspaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I use Gnome (I try...) with There are many things that I can't do. So, questions : I would like to use different workspaces to do specific works. 1) Is there a way to give a name to each workspace and to see this name in the "Desk Guide" in panel ? 2) Is there a way to make that a given application is automatically sent to a corresponding workspace ? If you define an application (named TOTO) with its icon and its attached command, I would like to say to it : "occupy, directly when launched, the workspace named "TOTO'S HOME". 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a click in the window properties such as "send this window to workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace and to see this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? Lot of question ? Isnt'it ? Thanks for responses ! C. Roult From gannam@india.dharma.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E82E0DE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14961; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:53:34 +0530 To: Alan Patterson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: G Annamalai Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:00:24 +0530 In-Reply-To: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Alan Patterson writes: > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Login shells would be reading the ~/.bash_profile file if it exists. Non-login shells read only ~/.bashrc. HIH. Cheers, anna -- ``A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams.'' - John Barrymore 1943 From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1D2E155 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13744 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13737; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16456; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:24:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08336; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB89035.5E2F2718@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:49 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Patterson Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The .profile files are read only once at login time. You are confusing with shell session file that are ex=E9cuted at each shell invocation ( interactive or in script) in .profile, define export ENV=3D$HOME/.kshrc and put in it what you want to execute at each invocation. under ksh, you can use the '-p' as in #!/bin/ksh -p if you don't want to read the $ENV file. read the manual for exact names JRC PS: for compatibility do ln -s .profile .bash_profile ln -s .kshrc .bashrc or the inverse ... -:) > Alan Patterson wrote: > = > Embarrassingly simple question. > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > = > Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? > = > Cheers, > Alan Patterson -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 06:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042942BC3E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LBWwf06830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux Message-ID: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr>; from fbellaiche@ntsys.fr on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: > Tommy_T wrote: > > > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > > Slackware > > version of Linux. Is it available? > > Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. > I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's > web site. > Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version > of Gnome. Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the latest stuff. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html Looking at that page, there's even tgz's too. Telsa From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D912E25B for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13966 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13958; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16842; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09776; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB891B6.3D9B8875@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catherine Roult Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Workspaces References: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Catherine Roult wrote: > = > 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a > = > click in the window properties such as "send this window to > = > workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window > = > to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me right click in title bar 'move to' under wmaker > = > 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace = yes under window maker and to see > = > this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? > = I never see that, even with --enable-gnome compiling window maker enlightenment that has it's own panel has this features with zoom effect on opened windows -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD8F2BEE0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCQZt07151 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Panrl Problem Message-ID: <20010321122635.K5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from anthonyg63@hotmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 or thereabouts, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. ... > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? It may be sawfish :) >From http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/problems.html Q: The menu panel (the narrow one at the top) is sitting in the middle of the screen when I start GNOME. A: This may be a sawfish-specific problem. If you are using sawfish, then open the control center and find the options for sawfish. Under Placement you will find a checkbox for Ignore program-specified window placements.. This needs to be unchecked. If this doesn't work, take the longer route provided by Robert Soros on gnome-list: " I ended up logging out and switching to console to edit my ~/sawfish/window-history file... which contained the line " ("panel (type . unframed) (position 0 . 23)) " Editing the file (with 0, 0 coordinates) during the gnome session then logging out was useless as it would just resave the file as upon exiting.. " Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:29:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EF2E315 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCXAB07232 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010321123310.L5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 or thereabouts, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. Most capplets are provided by the control-center package, which needs to be compiled before gnome-core. I don't see a session manager capplet, but I have a session-properties-capplet from that package. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:41:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7292CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCiuq07350 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 release schedule Message-ID: <20010321124455.N5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro>; from leonchiver@xnet.ro on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 or thereabouts, Leon Chiver wrote: > Hi guys, > > does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule > or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? There is a gnome-1.4-list mailing list listed at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list The latest info I see on dates in the archive is this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-1.4-list/2001-March/msg00010.html Since that's the latest, that's your best guide. The answer to your question seems to be "both" :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB122CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCkfj07403 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Message-ID: <20010321124641.O5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jh0u@hotmail.com on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 or thereabouts, ordinary user wrote: > hi, > > I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs > out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an > impossible situation?... This might be better directed to the ximian-hosted lists, but the answer as of a week ago was "potato and woody, fine. sid, um". It may have changed, of course. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D032BEA6 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCtYh07410 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Message-ID: <20010321125534.P5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome-List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from richard@diddyland.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 or thereabouts, dids wrote: > It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in > /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome No. It's down to prefixes. Tarballs default to a prefix of /usr/local/ as is proper for stuff locally compiled on a system. Package managers for different distros (and flavours of UNIX) default to different places. (SuSE goes for /opt.) This is explained in http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html (scattered about over several questions, I admit. Not the greatest organisation in the world in that section, sorry.) > whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs > etc and start again by hand. > Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove > Ive already done the rpms etc If it was all installed via rpms, then rpm -e should do the trick. If you have been adding stuff from tarballs, then I hope you kept the source trees. If so, cd into the relevant directories, and hope someone wrote the magic for "make uninstall" to work (that removes what make install created). > Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by > default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR Whilst running GNOME, try "printenv" to get a list of all your environment variables. "printenv | more" or "printenv | less" is probably useful here, as it can be a long list. I don't know enough about SuSE to know, but I would take a good look at the 'startx' shell script, wherever it is on your system, and particularly the section that deals with "startx gnome". It can take a fair bit of following through scripts to find which is doing or calling what. But at least with shell scripts you can just read through them. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:56:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14652E33F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LD0Dg07441 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs Message-ID: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com>; from roberto@susq.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I don't know whether "Sun ultrasparc 5" means "Solaris 2.6", because I am not a Sun/Solaris user myself. But if it does mean that, then see http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html and the question about "gnome-libs won't compile on Solaris 2.6. It fails with a complaint about Berkeley DB lacking DB 1.85 compatibility". If it doesn't mean that, then see Paul Barnfeather's wonderful wonderful "Building GNOME on Solaris" pages at ttp://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/ I have also seem some discussion about db versions on gnome-devel-list, but it was too hard for me. It will be in the archives for this month's stuff though if you want to look. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:07:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082F2E346 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDAPi07469 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: control-center default urls Message-ID: <20010321131025.S5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url > handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version > gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the > gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? For 1.4 the plan is yes, nautilus and its swanky "render html from the docbook on the fly" trick will be the default for new users clicking on ghelp, man, and info. gnome-help-browser will still be provided though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077542C992 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDBwf07474 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 Message-ID: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ok guys last question, > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > gnome-users-guide? Yes. It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. /me adds another to the todo list. Telsa From snickell@stanford.edu Fri Mar 16 06:41:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F82D48D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GBehY00753; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB1FBC0.552D1827@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:48 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louis Garcia Cc: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus References: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Louis Garcia wrote: > > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when > using nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel > starts. When nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second > and then nautilus redraws the background and places the icons on the > desktop. It doesn't seem to be anything wrong, it just doesn't look > right. > > Anyone have this? This is standard behavior. Non-optimal, looks trashy, but probably not harmful either... cheers, -Seth From egger@suse.de Thu Mar 15 17:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [213.95.15.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B5B2BD08; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B381E349; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:34:52 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:35:46 +0100 (CET) From: egger@suse.de Reply-To: egger@suse.de Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 To: jens@gnome.org Cc: Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar, Jens Finke wrote: >> If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome >> booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the > last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised > me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough > space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is > interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to > join us. I might find some time to demonstrate GIMP for a day if you'd like me to. -- Servus, Daniel From jomamanup@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 20:02:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web11115.mail.yahoo.com (web11115.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847BF2BB7E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.213.164.80] by web11115.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Sandrowicz Subject: GAL To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any suggestions? Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:13:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7FF2BD9F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDCrc11272; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:12:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:13:12 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Simon Budig Cc: Gimp-developer list , , , Subject: Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the > Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk > about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the > booth is too much for me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be > very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to > do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend > at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome > booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to join us. Regards, Jens From sie-mich-auch@gmx.de Fri Mar 16 08:47:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE82BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14duZp-000078-06; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:33 +0100 Received: from p3EE1D306.dip.t-dialin.net (320027360141-0001@[62.225.211.6]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14duZe-0g6PHEC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Panrl Problem From: Marcel Schuster To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:51:00 +0100 Message-Id: <984750661.699.0.camel@Homer.Simpson.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 320027360141-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 +0000, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. > > The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel > option is picked. > > When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in > the middle after restarting X. > > Any ideas? > > At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and > although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does > finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. > > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? > > TIA > > -Ants. Maybe it's sawfish?? If sawfish is your window manager, go to control center -> sawfish window manager -> placement and check that the option "ignore program-specified window placements" is turned off. If sawfish's not your wm, I have no clue Best regards Marcel From tomr@mothra.aceldama.com Fri Mar 16 13:16:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mothra.aceldama.com (mothra.aceldama.com [204.225.122.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971C42CDBF; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tomr@localhost) by mothra.aceldama.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03466; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 From: Tom Rathborne To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Reply-To: tomr@aceldama.com Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>; from Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100 X-URL: http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Simon; On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag > 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting > and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for > me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very > happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be > happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't think I can help with the planning much but I'm trying to come to LinuxTag again because I had so much fun last year. I would be happy to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Cheers, Tom -- -- Tom Rathborne tomr@aceldama.com http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ -- "Don't clap too loudly -- it's a very old world." -- The Player, -- in Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" From dmitry@taurussoft.org Fri Mar 16 22:45:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7002BAE9 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts16-a367.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.4.113]:1044 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:45:33 +0300 Received: (qmail 784 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5351 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Mar 2001 21:12:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:05 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP folder. From louisg00@bellsouth.net Fri Mar 16 17:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (mail2.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E427F2CABC for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-196-20.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.196.20]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA06437 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Default browser From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/plain How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open. Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open.

Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1-- From root@plan9.de Fri Mar 16 17:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout.plan9.de (islay.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.162.92]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840CB2D3A0; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cerebro ([10.0.0.1] helo=mail.plan9.de ident=schmorp) by mailout.plan9.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BP-0004jO-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:55 +0100 Received: from root by mail.plan9.de with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BM-00065z-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316235852.D6431@cerebro.laendle> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com>; from tomr@aceldama.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux version 2.2.18RAID (root@cerebro) (gcc version 2.95.2.1 19991024 (release)) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500, Tom Rathborne wrote: > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > > I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't I'll also come for sure and help where I can and I would even try to organize that if necessary, but I am a total idiot at these kind of things, so it's best NOT to think about letting me do that.... > to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Pleased to meet you again, Mr. Rathborne. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg@goof.com |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | From conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com Sun Mar 18 01:28:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C28E2BF0B for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2I6X1E12174; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:00 -0600 (CST) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Jonathan Gift Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15-Mar-01 Jonathan Gift wrote: > joschi@eds.org wrote: >> Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk >> frontend >> to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write >> such a >> simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome >> development. >> If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that >> would >> be appriciated. thanks! > > It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the > root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. > > root tail gmc can already do this: Select a file, right-click, select View, then choose File/Monitor File in the viewer window. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 18-Mar-01 Time: 00:31:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From cduck@u.washington.edu Mon Mar 19 14:14:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3482BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6tG024199 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:55:16 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:16 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319111716.63131e58.cduck@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> References: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: university of washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From bertsch.13@osu.edu Sat Mar 17 00:37:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from core.greenapple.com (unknown [198.144.72.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EE2D40C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt-006-00180.greenapple.com (IDENT:jonathan@pt-006-00180.greenapple.com [198.144.76.195]) by core.greenapple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27906 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Bertsch X-Sender: jonathan@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list Subject: session save problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. -- Jonathan Bertsch bertsch.13@osu.edu From mmoyles@immunochem.com Sat Mar 17 12:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.auracom.com (mail.auracom.com [216.126.204.211]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C32CDE7 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from idt.burnyeat [165.154.191.88] by mail.auracom.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A2A219670154; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:45:06 -0700 Received: from mike by idt.burnyeat with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14eKtv-000263-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 To: gnome-list Subject: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Reply_To: mmoyles@immunochem.com From: Michael Moyles Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the Ximian pages - Is it still around? Thanks - mike -- Michael Moyles mmoyles@immunochem.com http:/www.immunochem.com I.D.T. Ltd. 23 Burnyeat St. Tel (902) 895-3594 Truro, NS B2N 4P9 Fax (902) 896-7276 Can. From cduck@washington.edu Mon Mar 19 21:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21A42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante36.u.washington.edu (cduck@dante36.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.196]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2K2rfs20998; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (cduck@localhost) by dante36.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA14318; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: "'cduck' Chris Grierson" X-X-Sender: To: Roberto Moral Cc: Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion sleepycat software maintains berkely db, and apparently versions higher than 2.7.7 break all this 1.85 compat business. see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2000-October/msg00509.html not that i have a valid opinion, but why did they make a __db185_open in major 2? isn't one of the whole points of new majors to clear up incompatible API calls? why not use db_open in libdb.so.1 over some new db185_open in libdb.so.2 ? this is actually a question looking for answer. if someone knows, i'd love to hear -chris icq: 24826966 phone: 206.795.4998 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. > > I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode > > I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > ============================================================================== > == Roberto Moral Denche == == > == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== > == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == > == roberto@susq.com == to go away == > == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == > ============================================================================== > == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == > == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == > == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == > == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == > == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == > == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == > == strictly prohibited. == > ============================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca Mon Mar 19 22:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (flash.lakeheadu.ca [192.75.62.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137D42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (IDENT:root@lake1-75.lakeheadu.ca [216.211.1.75]) by flash.lakeheadu.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2K2w0J12579 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:03:05 -0500 From: "John B. Stephens,II" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnorpm & rpm's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. however , i am getting error msgs. like: "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of rpm..." when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i spoke of. any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. From zellert@voicenet.com Wed Mar 21 09:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from unix01.voicenet.com (unix01.voicenet.com [209.71.48.250]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9846F2BAB4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 6987); 21 Mar 2001 14:50:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Terrence W. Zellers" X-Sender: zellert@unix01 To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode Sigh. I just went through this exercise on my laptop. After I checked that sleepycat was up to date with the compatability option I still got that. I then buggered the configure script to dummy out the db185 tests. Then you have to check the Makefiles and make sure that -ldb is in all the library lists. Once the lib is installed, to get the rest of gnome to compile (link actually) you have to edit gnome-config (the executable, wherever it gets put, as I configure with --prefix=/usr it was in /usr/bin) you go to the libs section and add -ldb -- I basically inserted it after wherever I found an "-ldl". Another heads up is that you will need a recent "popt" package (not a gnome package) to get GConf to compile. I'm tempted to put up a page explaining these steps but in reality that pretty much covers the low-lights. -- TWZ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Copyright 2001 by Terrence W. Zellers. All rights explicitly reserved. | | email: terrence.w.zellers@pobox.com www.voicenet.com/~zellert/pub.key | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A means of adding pith or humor to email: patent pending | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snickell@stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 08:53:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.116]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78F72BEE6; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2LDrVv15402; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB8B25D.A5FD3AEB@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:33 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Also: bonobo - component model oaf - activation framework medusa - indexed search framework & daemon Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) > - "Fifth Toe" applications package > - reorganisation of gnome-utils > - ... [gosh, I need help] > > Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! > > Thanks a lot. > > mawa > -- > schmooz, n.: > Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. > schmooz collector, n.: > Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From tim@maths.tcd.ie Mon Mar 19 23:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8E72DFC1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lanczos.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 From: Timothy Murphy To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . I'm running the GNOME that came with RedHat-7.0 . The problems seem to arise equally with Enlightenment and Sawfish. Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From glynn.foster@ireland.sun.com Wed Mar 21 05:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D186E2DB69; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.7]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12194; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ireland.Sun.COM (plat [129.156.238.87]) by ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA05273; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <3AB884F3.1ECC64C4@ireland.Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 +0000 From: Glynn Foster Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) Of course there is the new multi-session hack for gsm ;) See ya, Glynn ;) From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 10:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.245]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCD2D3B0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LFeQW07421; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:30 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681713C4C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:01 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4B3010B6; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Michael Moyles Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010322023916.A464@aphid.net> References: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat>; from mmoyles@immunochem.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 01:54:03PM -0400 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the > Ximian pages - Is it still around? Ximian has little to do with Galeon... Have a look at: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. From veillard@redhat.com Wed Mar 21 10:44:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B032C7FE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12278; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: "John B. Stephens,II" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. a hint at least: issue #1 of rpmfind FAQ http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/faq.html Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Wed Mar 21 11:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barnabe.net (barnabe.net [216.121.96.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719152CDF9 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.endymion.com (www.chalonsursaone.com [216.121.146.240]) by barnabe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28822; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:29:47 -0800 Message-Id: <200103211629.IAA28822@barnabe.net> To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Subject: Re: GAL Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:29:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? AFAIK, libxml 2.x and 1.x was in conflict, but since libxml 2.x is named libxml2, it's OK. You should first install libxml 1.8.? (to replace old libxml 2) and then libxml2 ; you may have to get new releases of apps using libxml2, but you'll be OK for future. p_ From steve@kazbek.ispras.ru Wed Mar 21 11:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stern.sovam.com (stern.sovam.com [194.67.2.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6032D41A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [194.67.37.200]) by stern.sovam.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12131 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:09:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2LG6Rb09835 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid TAA26876; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host kazbek claimed to be kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (pegas [194.186.94.143]) by kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13338 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07853; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:18 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru: steve set sender to steve@kazbek.ispras.ru using -f To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: where is 'db2html' From: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? Thanks. -- Alexander Koptelov Institute for System Programming, Russian Academy of Sciences e-mail: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru icq: 36208499 From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499D2BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LG9Ir26605; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:09:18 GMT Subject: Re: Default browser From: Mike Newman To: Louis Garcia Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> References: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:09:17 +0000 Message-Id: <985190957.18855.1.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500, Louis Garcia wrote: > How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I > click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking > an email I want evolution to open. > > Thank In the control centre under URL Handlers, you can set the program which GNOME uses to launch URLs beginning with the http:/ method. I think you'd need to set it as /path/to/galeon %s Unfortunately, Evolution can't be used in this way yet, mainly because the compose window depends heavily on an Evolution shell being running. People are working on this however. Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:14:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17222BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LFxi723425; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:59:44 GMT Subject: Re: GAL From: Mike Newman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:59:43 +0000 Message-Id: <985190384.18857.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? I understand that recent versions of libxml2 can happily co-exist with 1.8.11 (the most recent 1.x, and the one likely needed by gal). Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:28:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294862BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12544; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:41:41 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012541; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:41:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06444; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:37 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006440; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:25:22 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29413 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03052; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:15 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. -- Gregory From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 21 11:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778F2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14flTA-0002Nh-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Subject: Re: GAL From: jacob berkman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985192100.8079.1.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. you shouldn't be using libxml 2.x in gnome applications yet. jacob -- C-x i .signature From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 21 11:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858E2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.214]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21126; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? From: Bart Kuik To: Gregory "A." Shimansky Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:40:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300, Gregory A. Shimansky wrote: > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of these locations : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources But didn't the configure-script complain about that? Bart From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Wed Mar 21 11:56:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BAFE2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 745 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from du11024.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.11.24]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2LGrS307156 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: >> Tommy_T wrote: >> > >> > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the >> > Slackware >> > version of Linux. Is it available? >> >> Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. >> I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's >> web site. >> Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version >> of Gnome. > > Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my archived sources). Here's my compile sequence: Installed prerequisite libraries: (--prefix=/usr) audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.9 imlib-1.9.9 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gtk-engines-0.12 ORBit-0.5.7 popt-1.6-4 (from RedHat RPM, prerequisite for OAF etc.) Installed GNOME base libraries: (--prefix=/usr) gnomelibs-1.2.13 libgtop-1.0.12 libxml-1.8.11 libghttp-1.0.9 glibwww-0.2 (pre-requisite for gtkhtml) Installed Bonobo & its prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) gal-0.5 libunicode-0.4.gnome oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 gnome-vfs-1.0 gnome-print-0.27 bonobo-0.37 Installed gnome-db (prerequisite for libglade) (--prefix=/usr) libdgda-0.2.3 gnome-db-0.2.3 (--disable-bonobotest) [bonobo test failed, but gnome-db is looking for >=0.29 and there have been multiple API changes since 0.29] Installed GNOME base libraries w/ Bonobo dependencies: (--prefix=/usr) libglade-0.16 gtkhtml-0.8.3 Installed GNOME core: (--prefix=/usr) control-center-1.4.0 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 Installed nautilus prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) [openssl-0.9.6 (ammonite prerequisite) already installed] ammonite-1.0.0 medusa-0.5.0 mozilla-0.8 (binary built on Slackware) scrollkeeper-0.1.4 (--localstatedir=/var) At this point, I postponed Nautilus and worked on some other items. Installed pan-0.9.5 (--prefix=/usr) [now that gnome core is complete] FWIW, I generally used the command: nice ./configure --prefix=/usr && nice make && sudo ~/s/checkinstall My copy of checkinstall is heavily modified from the version generally available, but basically it does a 'make install', copying some standard doc files ala Patrick's practice, and creates a Slackware package (mostly so that I can scan for files in /var/adm/packages). In short, it's *very* doable. There are a few packages that can safely be compiled 'side by side', but most should be done singly in the order listed. HTH > If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian > installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the > latest stuff. Now *THERE'S* a scary thought! ;-) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! A computer does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:58:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 311802BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA12665; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:11:19 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012662; Wed, 21 Mar 01 20:11:06 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06818; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:55:27 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006815; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:54:59 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01120; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03503; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:54 +0300 (MSK) To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? References: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:54:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "BK" == Bart Kuik writes: BK> GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of BK> these locations : BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources Thank you, I found both in unstable directory. Gnome ftp.gnome.org doesn't let me in so I used ftp.yggdrasil.com mirror. I just thought that since I got gnome-vfs from stable directory it shouldn't rely on anything I can't get from a stable directory... Maybe I am wrong. BK> But didn't the configure-script complain about that? It complained about gconf, said nothing about oaf. The gconf error wasn't critical too so configure script didn't stop and I assumed that I can build gnome-vfs without gconf and oaf. It looked like this: .... checking for gconf-config... no checking for GCONF - version >= 0.9... no *** The gconf-config script installed by GCONF could not be found *** If GCONF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GCONF_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gconf-config. checking for t_accept in -lnsl... yes checking for socket in -lsocket... yes ... -- Gregory From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Wed Mar 21 12:16:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464602BABF for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86026; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> To: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' In-reply-to: Your message of "21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300." Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From robin.cull@pace.co.uk Wed Mar 21 12:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from exchange1.cam.pace.co.uk (host-131-80.pace.co.uk [136.170.131.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD742BEE4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchange1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:17 -0000 Message-ID: <1402C4C025C4D311B50D00508B8B74E27E446B@exchange1> From: Robin Cull To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Missing autoconf macros (or something) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to get my configure.in and makefile.am files for a package to compile under GNOME right using the example in the Havoc Pennington GTK+/GNOME Application Development book. When I run my autoconf.sh I get moaned at by automake and configure. I get these messages: Automake: Makefile.am : variable GNOMEUI_LIBS not defined Makefile.am : variable GNOME_LIBDIR not defined configure: ./configure: GNOME_INIT: command not found ./configure: GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS: command not found When I run make I (obviously) get missing headers and linkage problems. I am using a fresh Mandrake 7.2 installation. I have got the gnome-*-devel, gtk+-*-devel and glib-*-devel packages installed. I think I'm just missing the macros but I'm not sure. Could anyone help me out? If I have hit the wrong list, please forgive me and point me in the right place. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- Robin "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to seek permission." - Rear Admiral Dr. Grace Hopper From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 21 13:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1DA2BEF2 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26656 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from a2e5d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.6.46.93) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fnjM-0001OB-00 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010321195312.A5340@gmx.net> References: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com>; from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500, jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: > > >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? > > % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html > stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 Or in debian'sh: apt-get install cygnus-stylesheets All deps are included .-) -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim `-Filemanager / VFU From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 21 14:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F472BCB5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id UAA12256 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:10:38 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdAZyZ4I; Wed Mar 21 20:10:31 2001 Message-ID: <3AB8F8B0.94428D82@ntsys.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:36 +0100 From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > > > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. > >FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by >compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep >things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts >the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday >morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my >archived sources). > [snips] I've just compiled Gnome 1.4.0rc1 from sources on a Slackware 7.0 based box. As far as I've tested, it works perfectly, including Nautilus. And evolution 0.9 too, BTW. Just make sure to use "--prefix=/usr" along with all "./configure". It should work on Slack 7.1 . Ximian's Red Carpet is another story. Getting it to run on a Slackware system won't be a piece of cake... It is also true that slackware users generaly get their stuff from sources (like I do, I must say) rather than packages (like people do on Debian for example). And so getting Red Carpet to run on Slackware distros is probably not a high priority. Fred. From mawarkus@t-online.de Wed Mar 21 15:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6122BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fpOh-00058Z-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:59 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.213.160]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fpOD-0DNcYKC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28155 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Vertigo? Message-ID: <20010321211433.A28152@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. There is, however, no 'vertigo' CVS module. Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of Vertigo code and/or fill me in on details on what exactly this will change? I suppose it'll do everything the old panel does; it will replace the special applet interface with a generalised Bonobo one (controls?), however, and use an adapter control for backward compatibility. What else is there to be said? Thanks, ma"papers need a-writin'"wa -- So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine? I don't think so. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From jacob@trna.ximian.com Wed Mar 21 15:56:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA7F2BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ximian.com (ralph.ximian.com [141.154.95.105]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09540; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:55:54 -0500 From: jacob berkman Message-Id: <200103212055.PAA09540@trna.ximian.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:56 -0000 To: "Matthias Warkus" , Subject: RE: Vertigo? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_unique-boundary-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ------=_unique-boundary-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ----Original Message----- >From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) >in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the >next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose >there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. No, it is pretty much just a code name so far. jacob ------=_unique-boundary-1-- From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 21 17:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3172BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMGQa28155; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103212216.f2LMGQa28155@demai05.mw.mediaone.net> Subject: Red-Carpet + MDK 7.2: Thanks! From: Sean Middleditch To: beta@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:18:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey, I just saw the new Mandrake 7.2 channel on Red-Carpet! Thanks! This is really cool now, I can finally get rid of MandrakeUpdate, and do all my updating from a central program! Hehe! New software and paint fumes mix really well! Not to sound greedy (and not imply that I'm *not*), but when will Evolution Snapshots and Gnome Beta be available? I'm finding myself messing with these a lot. ^,^ Thanks again! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A9A82BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa09194; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14449 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Programer's list? References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so many questions as such on this list. Thanks, DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248D62DE7E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa11732; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15430 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB912B7.9D8B16B6@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:39 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse grab/ungrab problem References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, This happens even in the gnome-canvas test example. If I double click rapidly on a widget, the grab/ungrab sequence seems to go awry. I mean, the mouse cursor does not change back to regular pointer, it remains as a crosshair. Similarly, the application never releases focus of itself. Help? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 17:36:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.232]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE6B2DE93 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMPPo07647; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:25 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABE33C4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2BA6214C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: "David J. Topper" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Programer's list? Message-ID: <20010322092526.F464@aphid.net> References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu>; from topper@virginia.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:44:08PM -0500 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming > issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so > many questions as such on this list. gnome-devel-list... Click the mailing lists link on the front page of gnome.org. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From olau@hardworking.dk Wed Mar 21 17:46:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fetest.worldonline.dk (fetest.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC972CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19146 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: from 61.ppp1-4.hob.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.85.189) by fetest.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LLvQF01520; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:57:26 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> From: Ole Laursen Date: 21 Mar 2001 22:57:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: "James W. Haefner"'s message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? I think this calls for personal opinions, so here you have mine: Emacs. It isn't really Gnome-enabled, though someone (Martin Baulig, I think) was working on it last year - it was a very exciting project, I wonder what happened to it? - but still Emacs is a much better editor than any other integrated thing I've seen. And since you usually spend 95% of the time editing code, it isn't worth sacrificing the editor just because of a more gooey build/debug system. IMHO. If you just want a GUI-enabled debugger, I think DDD is an option, though I've never tried it. > At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? Don't know kdg, but it can't be better than Emacs. :-) -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 22:49:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B12CE45 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA470775 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Gnome confused about window managers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, everything works. Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not running, even when it is. Thanks Daniel From palic@billgotchy.de Thu Mar 22 03:06:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85F2BAF1 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06v-0006z5-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:21 +0100 Received: from dialer200.kel.de.core.tng.de ([213.178.65.200] helo=localhost) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06q-00037F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:16 +0100 Received: from palic by localhost with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14fzzd-0000N4-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: 1.4 beta and nautilus Message-ID: <20010322085849.D1117@billgotchy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Internet: http://www.billgotchy.de pgp2-key: http://www.billgotchy.de/bin/m.asc Fingerprint: EE C8 16 82 B6 BE AE 36 24 41 43 8D BE BC 1C FF Key-ID: 01119ED1 OS: Linux Debian Woody Private-Debian-Site: http://www.linux-debian.de From: Jan-Hendrik Palic Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gnome- users... I have a problem wth gnome and nautilus. Ich have an actuell woody, updated last monday. When I want to install nautilus, I got this: gromitt:~# apt-get install nautilus Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus: Depends: gconf (>=3D 0.50) but it is not installable Depends: libgconf11 (>=3D 0.50) but it is not going to be install= ed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is= to be installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is to be= installed Depends: libgnome-vfs0 (>=3D 0.6.2) but it is not going to be ins= talled Depends: libmedusa0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libnautilus0 (>=3D 0.8.2) but it is not going to be inst= alled Depends: liboaf0 (>=3D 0.6.4) but 0.6.3-0.ximian.2 is to be insta= lled Depends: oaf (>=3D 0.6.4) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Whats going wrong? It seems, that nautilus depends on gnome-libs, which aren't accessable... How can I fix this...? thnx for your help! Jan --=20 One time, you all will be emulated by linux! ---- Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "palic@billgotchy.de" --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBOrmwuIXXtskBEZ7RAQEfUwf+MabAgE8psUbyDToOrbBgnNlQkdeuprVW AV97nlLTjcXSERNgMPzfWtHA3Pks2hHLQ7Jqx54/AaQDWD2FR5r3s0VWP+FSeRVv 5LzvdGBYdDhvwTgBhLM9KbVjr9/aWOUvWtBlOTVZA4U4Ss0/OaOmSGmCD7idfHln 0jRPn6SEzJl2T/5tlhhNVvCe7e40ZRL6fjdLadzrtJ3ib+TpZxg/NajX1XDtnuoZ 5yqnjIvdO9RZ7pdf/5IMlWlfIQzRljuO0XN8JkkF0v11wwMnh9LgbHFnXNCPj1G3 rxhPkp52K+cp4tMZvAsKvpUQixy+F/qyy6EQzhYBDwVYKlw6XEJy5A== =wz+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5-- From dan@eazel.com Thu Mar 22 04:00:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from foodle.localdomain (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA422BB4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by foodle.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2M90xJ28164; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: foodle.localdomain: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Mueth X-Sender: dan@foodle.localdomain To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) The old help browser will still be usable but is deprecated in 1.4 and will go away some time in the future. The help stuff in Nautilus/hyperbola/gnome-db2html2/scrollkeeper is nothing to brag about right now from a user's perspective, but we have layed the groundwork for displaying DocBook/XML documentation and managing documentation metadata. In upcoming releases of Nautilus and ScrollKeeper we will see more user-visible improvements and new functionality such as indexing, metadata searches, user-configurability, access to remote documentation, conversion of document formats by the help browser, etc. Plus, by using ScrollKeeper and the OMF, we are building on a metadata handling system which appears to have the support of the LDP, KDE, and others which will give us compatibility with documents written by other projects in the future. Dan From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 04:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE022DEBA for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.200]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00078; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:08:15 +0100 Message-Id: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers From: Bart Kuik To: Daniel Russel Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 10:04:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > everything works. > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > running, even when it is. > Thanks > Daniel Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Bart From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:42:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109DC2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nwv03195; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:32 -0800 From: George To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598522BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAOP414202 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010322102425.D8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 or thereabouts, joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk > frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking > to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of > gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other > little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! The closest I can remember is logview which is now in gnome-utils. It's written in Objective C, I believe. You need either to be root to run it to monitor certain files, or to make those files world- viewable. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1A2E12D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAVPm14270 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010322103125.E8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay>; from sean.middleditch@iname.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 or thereabouts, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. One situation I've seen all GNOME apps start crawling from startx on is when the networking is broken on my laptop (like, typos in /etc/hosts or the PCMCIA card being in but the ethernet cable being improperly connected). Or not broken, but correct, but GNOME simply not knowing the difference between laptop with card in but no network present and either laptop with no card in or laptop with card in and network up and happy. And the immortal occasion when I used 'pump' (dhcp tool) on someone else's network, came home, forgot about it, and then GNOME whinged because I still had an IP and name server from somewhere in Australia :) I thought it was the network cable and was shaking it madly. > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I ...if it started after upgrading those, sounds likely. I dunno whether the above paragraph helps at all, though? Oh well, it might be useful for someone searching in archives. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:32:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AE2E12F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAZuT14301 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bertsch.13@osu.edu on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 or thereabouts, Jonathan Bertsch wrote: > Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back > in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing > the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going > to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm > not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to a bug in the applet itself. My particular bęte-noire is gweather: it is obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. I would bugzilla it. The "normal" clock applet is actually part of gnome-core, not gnome-applets. Just to confuse matters :) Telsa From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 22 05:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28AB2E116 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA04076; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:51:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Cc: Subject: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) In-Reply-To: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. > > * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the > same corner > * Property dialogs are now immediate effect > * Scrollable long menus > * Foobar has a tasklist menu > * Panels better follow theme > * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact > default for panels > * Per panel maximize avoidance setting > * Nicer applet dragging > * New menu to add launchers to panel > * Support urls in run dialog > * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your > menus are on nfs or something utterly slow > * Can set up a custom menu icon > * New easter eggs > * Lots of bugfixes > * Others I forgot Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. Jens From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:18:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57932BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBM2I14594 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:02 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:01 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's ("only packages with major number <= 3") Message-ID: <20010322112201.H8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is off-topic for gnome-list recently, but it occurs often enough to answer it. Summary: "get rpm-3.0.6, it works for rpms built with either rpm-3.0.x or rpm-4.0.x". On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 or thereabouts, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. This error message has to win a prize for "most cryptic", or "most confusing". rpm is telling you it can only deal with packages built by rpm-3.x.x. That 3 is the "major number" in a versioning scheme. Your rpm on RH6.0 will probably be rpm-3.0.something. There were (in order) rpm-3.0, rpm-3.0.1, rpm-3.0.2, rpm-3.0.3 and rpm-3.0.4. And life was happy. Then there was a big big change in rpm, so rpm-4.0.1 came out. rpm-4.0.x understands rpms built with rpm-3.0.x, but builds things slightly differently. So rpm-3.0.4 and lower has no clue what to do with packages built by rpm-4.0.x. Also, it was a bit hard to upgrade like that :) So that was a bit crap :) It got crazier: because XFree86 4.0 came out at the same time, rpms of it build with rpm-4.0 appeared on the net, people were downloading those, trying to install them with rpm-3.0.x, seeing that error message and thinking it applied to X, not rpm :) Mass confusion. So anyway, rpm-3.0.5 came out with the ability to read (and thus install, upgrade and erase) rpms built by rpm-4.0.x. rpm-3.0.6 came out after that and also has that ability. And that's what you need. So your answer is to download rpm-3.0.6 and install it. If gnorpm starts messing about, the command line syntax is: cd /name/of/directory/the/thing's/in su rpm -Uvh rpm-3.0.6-whatever.i386.rpm (control-D to stop being root when it's given you your prompt back) Then you have something that will deal with packages built with "rpm with a major version > 3". Oh, you might also want rpm-devel-3.0.6. I'm not sure. Upgrade them both at the same time (rpm -Uvh rpm-blahblah rpm-devel-blahblah all on one line). The reason I'm not suggesting upgrading straight to rpm-4.0.x is that part of the changes involved changes to the rpm database, and I recall there is some "correct" way to upgrade, and lots of not-so-correct ways. I simply waited for RH 7.0 and let the automatic upgrade do it for me :) As for gnorpm, you want at -least- version 0.95.2, or version 0.96. You'll find in bugzilla that the possible versions are 0.95.2, 0.96, and "prehistoric". That means "everything earlier". Everything earlier had a lot of things which are now fixed, and bug-reports on those will be met with "upgrade to a current version" at best. So get the absolute latest version you can. I'll note that people building rpms should really do it with 3.0.x to ensure the least pain for users. I'm told this is in guidelines somewhere (Mandrake has such, I believe, and RH also) and I -know- that the Linux Development Platform Specification (interim until LSB is done, at http://www.freestandards.org/ldps/1.1/ldps-1.1.html ) insists on this. I realise this is perhaps information overload, but I am in "get it into the archives" mode today. (Hence the addition to the subject line.) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FA2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBP4614623 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322112504.I8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie>; from tim@maths.tcd.ie on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 or thereabouts, Timothy Murphy wrote: > (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, > eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- > on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:27:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42CC2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBUeu14654 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from steve@kazbek.ispras.ru on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > Hello! > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html I need "db2html" to build some of the help files. What is it and where can I get it? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN539 I have DocBook correctly installed but when I build a package I get errors as the documentation sections get built. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN552 Reading it, I realise that had I tried, I could not have been more unclear in answering the first question. Accurate, non-distro-specific, up-to-date rewordings gratefully accepted. Send 'em to me, to gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, or to gnomefaq@gnu.org Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFD2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBfTN14762 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) Message-ID: <20010322114129.L8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 or thereabouts, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. long list snipped > Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? > Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. > Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we > could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. If anyone is really bored and has time to spare, a really helpful thing they could do is to go through (groan) all the ChangeLogs for packages and hunt for things like this and make a list of user-friendly explanations which can be used in the release announcement. Some ChangeLogs, like Pan's, are brilliant, and explain that "reassigned fooval to no longer return NULL when hitting an overflow exception in the sink plunger" actually means "now pan makes coffee for you -and- does the washing-up". Others, um, aren't :) I'm not sure where you'd send them, though. Perhaps someone would like to volunteer to collate them and feed them to the 1.4 release team in an orderly manner. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:44:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6CD2C87C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBmBv14820 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers Message-ID: <20010322114811.M8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 or thereabouts, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Actually, I've seen the control-center get window managers wrong on nearly every version of Gnome and every distro I've played with :( It's even in (guess :)) the FAQ, although with one of my crappier answers, which just says basically, "control-center is undergoing a rewrite and with luck the new version will improve on this". I haven't seen Gnome actually start the wrong window manager on a restart when I have changed and saved and quit. I have had no window manager often enough to be underwhelmed by this. The wretched thing also highlights one window manager as running and offers me the chance to run the configuration tool for a different window manager; and so on. I don't think it's distro-specific or Gnome version-specific. I've seen it on all versions of RH from 6.0 up, and on Debian woody (or maybe it was potato), and on several releases of Gnome, and with combinations of window managers ranging from just sawfish and twm to enlightenment, windowmaker, twm, and fvwm2. Telsa From flavio@conectiva.com.br Thu Mar 22 06:53:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from postfix.conectiva.com.br (perninha.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E080A2BDBB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from burns.conectiva (burns.conectiva [10.0.0.4]) by postfix.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 27C1316E81 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:58 -0300 (EST) Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (10.0.17.33) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from flavio by barney.distro.conectiva with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14g3e8-0003N9-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:52 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: db2html Message-ID: <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y6PvmTFIYclVmRST" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it,=20 can anyone help me? Thanks. --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjq555MACgkQiRDznl8DCoBPjQCcDrfdd6tTJXOd36ucrlg4RGdp bM8AoITO0gFSQFZ10PDFL5fxurGCCA0D =n4l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST-- From cedric@cpac.embrapa.br Thu Mar 22 08:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE332C934 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpac.embrapa.br (cedric@micro208.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.208]) by caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16827 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:47 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA0C9E.8020307@cpac.embrapa.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:30:54 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?= Lamalle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010105 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with png Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to make a compiled version of gnome 1.2, but I have problems with the display of png files. Here is a short description (without most of out of subject libs and ldconfig after each comp.) of what I've done : ... Compiled and installed libpng1.0.9 (I've tried with version 1.0.5 and 1.0.8 also) ... Compiled and installed glib-1.2.8 Compiled and installed gtk+-1.2.8 ... Compiled and installed imlib 1.9.8.1 (with gmodulized imlib) ... Compiled and installed gnome-libs 1.2.13 ... Compiled and installed gnome-common 1.2.1 Compiled and installed gdk_pixbuf 0.10.1 Compiled and installed gnome-control-center 1.2.2 Compiled and installed gnome-core-1.2.4 +applets, network, gmc 4.5.52, sawfish, etc... When I try to start a gnome-session (or gnome-terminal from fvwm), I got a message like that : error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/gnome/lib/libimlib-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct I then try to compile gnome-libs with --disable-imlibtest and gnome-session was launching, I had icons on the desktop, but not on the panel (only text). I'm using debian 2.2, what am I doing wrong ?? Thx in advance for help, Cédric. From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 08:58:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BFA2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.146]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13605 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:58:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). In my opinion that was a way better implementation, especcially for small screens or to call capplets from outside the control-panel, ie setting the background with rightclicking on the desktop. For every small change you'll get the whole panel now in stead of only the wanted capplet.... I didn't find an option (in ./configure or in gnomecc --help) to get the other implementation back. Does anyone know why this is and if it's coming back in a post-1.4 release? Bart From markforawhile@yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 09:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com (web13105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CC02CC8D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:51:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010322145156.63569.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.188.172.200] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20T.?=" Subject: Gnome Control Center To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, hope this is the right list for this query! I recently updated my Gnome installation using Helix, and now I'm having trouble with the "Control Center" configuration tool. Whichever of the sections on the left I click, the right hand panel stays completely blank. I'm guessing that the Control Center isn't in synch with some other part of Linux any longer. Control Center is Version 1.2.2 under RedHat 6.2. Does anyone know what's going on ? Any help would be appreciated, as this is driving me up the wall ! cheers, Mark. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From gannam@india.dharma.com Thu Mar 22 11:03:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829722CDBE for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gannam@localhost) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20266 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 (IST) From: Annamalai G To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: icon labels. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings to All. I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? TIA. Cheers, anna From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Thu Mar 22 11:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310B42D9AF for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37568; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103221614.LAA37568@ww2.tqstats.com> To: Flavio Bruno Leitner Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: db2html In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300." <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br>, Flavio Bruno Leitner writes : >gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it, >can anyone help me? Somebody just asked this a day or two ago. % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 11:50:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB82BC97 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14g88S-0006IP-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: jacob berkman To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> References: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <985279228.23772.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my > slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in > stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in > separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). i bumped the one for 1.4 to version 1.4 since some things changed, notably the removal of the session-properties capplet and the inclusion of the gnome-vfs mime types capplet. the old 1.3 tree will become 1.5.0 when it comes out... after getting some much needed work done on it. jacob -- C-x i .signature From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Thu Mar 22 12:36:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA485113 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010322092900.04500208@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:16 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Re: Gnome Confused about Window Managers In-Reply-To: <20010322103002.B041D2E140@mail.gnome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Daniel > >Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... > >Bart Good point. I am running 1.2 from Redhat 7. Just to add more detail, other users of my machine can use Sawfish and configure it without any problem. Also, I have tried deleting all the gnome files associated with my account that I could find (~/.gnome ~/.sawfish /tmp/drussel-orbit or something like that), but that made no difference for either problem. I can't just make myself a new account since the names and ids have to match with other local machines. Also, I have no problem with sawfish configuration on other machines which share a home directory with this one and have very similar setups, however the Enlightenment confusion may have started immediately following my first such login to another machine (which did not have enlightenment installed). Thanks. From drifter@outerlounge.de Thu Mar 22 14:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-221.gwdg.de (RAS23-221.gwdg.de [134.76.23.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881F32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2MIrsl09359 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lunalounge.outerlounge.de: nobody set sender to drifter@outerlounge.de using -f To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 (MET) From: the drifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5-cvs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before using it under gnome ? Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) its cemented for me .. > > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . > > How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching > grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and > paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows > does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? In addition to the general X-cut-and-paste-behaviour, there is some nice little applet called clipboard-applet. You can "put something into it" by marking and then pressing button on it; afterwards, if you want to use the last dropped text, it's one left-click and the paste, for previous "drops" it keeps a history accessible by right-clickin'. Nifty little thing that... greets, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.lunalounge.net From itp@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 14:09:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flux (unknown [141.154.95.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E5F2CC57 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from itp by flux with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14gARd-0000CT-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322140825.C531@flux> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000 From: Ian Peters Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > > I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position > but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to > a bug in the applet itself. My particular b?te-noire is gweather: it is > obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. Ahh, but when I was going to CMU this was *so* convenient -- Ian Peters "...it is 5 am and the sun has charred the other itp@gnu.org side of the earth and come back to us and painted itp@ximian.com the smoke over our heads an imperial violet..." From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 15:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0410C2BB40 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MKDp918158 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322201351.B18006@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net>; from drifter@outerlounge.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 or thereabouts, the drifter wrote: > Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > > > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > > hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) > cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: > Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before > using it under gnome ? Excellent question. I apologise, but I can't remember now :) It was a long time ago. I don't even start and stop X enough on this machine to remember whether the workspaces came up this time. (Apparently this X session has been running since the first week in February.) > Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my > gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save > session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. > Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool > and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) > its cemented for me .. I'll investigate this on the boxes I have here, which collectively run various distros with various versions of X, wmaker and GNOME. I do remember messing about with something similar because at one stage I had both wmaker and GNOME trying to do session-management and it all got very silly. Thanks for the tip. Telsa From kh_naba@yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 22:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138D2BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01028 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:21:59 +0530 Message-ID: <3ABACC08.917BA446@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:37:36 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <20010322103003.482A12E148@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > > > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? Try Anjuta C/C++ IDE. http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/. In addition to many other features, it has Gnome apps widzards, integrated debugger, project management and a very sweet editor. :-) -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------- From jverel@home.com Thu Mar 22 23:22:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (cv150607-a.norwlk1.ct.home.com [24.228.1.114]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A632BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from john@localhost) by CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MNNc301571 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com: john set sender to jverel@home.com using -f Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 +0000 From: "John P. Verel" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322232338.A1532@CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com> References: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 11:30:40AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 03/22/01, 11:30:40AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? stylesheets-1.54.13rh-5, on my machine. -- John P. Verel Norwalk, CT From vk_gnome@rediffmail.com Thu Mar 22 23:38:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailweb5.rediffmail.com (unknown [202.54.124.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6D82D3B6 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5056 invoked by uid 510); 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Date: 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (161.114.88.76) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? From: "Vasu Kulkarni V" Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain Content-Description: Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. with ./configure , make , and make install. presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. I am new to this. please give me more details. bye -Vasu Kulkarni. Bangalore(India). _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com From ash@hobbiton.org Fri Mar 23 01:19:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-141.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECC2DB61 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2N6MSF05642 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:27 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no more error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010323012227.A5597@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:41:38AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i figured out the problem. for those curious, there are what's called "ports" from the FreeBSD group. the ports are basically just fancy tarballs that contain patches which allow the tarballed source to compile and run accordingly under FreeBSD. "ports" exist for most of the popular applications and toolkits, etc. and can be located at http://www.freebsd.org/ports austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Fri Mar 23 05:34:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8812E46B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NAbOH21621 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? Message-ID: <20010323103724.A21462@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" References: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com>; from vk_gnome@rediffmail.com on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 or thereabouts, Vasu Kulkarni V wrote: > HI, > i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? > is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. > with ./configure , make , and make install. > presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. > I am new to this. please give me more details. If you mean you have only got gnome-core-1.4.0-tar.gz, then no, I don't think it is. I think it wants at least a new version of gnome-libs and probably of control-center, and those may want new versions of a great many other files. There's a FAQ on compiling GNOME, but its suggested order applies to GNOME 1.2. The details about "what do I do with a tarball?" and "what are prefixes and do I need them?" will be the same, though. Several suggested compile orders have been posted to the gnome-1.4 list as different betas have come out. FAQ's at http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/ gnome-1.4 archives are at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list Speaking from experience, attempting to compile the first beta of what will be GNOME 1.4 took me a day and then I gave up :) If you're new and are concerned about doing bad things to your computer, I strongly suggest that you wait for the final GNOME 1.4 release. RC1 is release candidate 1, which means that we are in theory very close to GNOME 1.4 proper coming out. (Barring disasters, the last date I saw was at the end of this month: gnome-1.4 list is where you'd find updates on that.) It will still be in tarballs initially, but I would put money (well, a penny or so) on a variety of rpms and debs showing up within a week of that, and they're -much- easier to deal with when you're new to things. Telsa From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 07:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve From Markus_Nickels@casa.es Fri Mar 23 07:20:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.casa.es (mail.casa.es [194.69.224.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1522DD95 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.casa.es(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256A18.00492139 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:18:46 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASA From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es To: gnome-list@gnome.org Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:15:16 +0100 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion From toralf@kscanners.com Fri Mar 23 07:33:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1232E4E4 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14gQiM-0000Wj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:45 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: (gdb) where #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () #7 0x80bff8b in main () #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of applets that continually update their display. Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? -- # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 XFree86-4.0.1-1 apmd-3.0final-18 XFree86 driver is "neomagic". - Toralf From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 08:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (www.fmco.com [199.85.124.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B8B2D04B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: id IAA09233; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:30 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B8@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/ -----Original Message----- From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es [mailto:Markus_Nickels@casa.es] Sent: 23 March 2001 12:15 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 23 09:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7A2BB71 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA20576 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:07:07 -0800 Message-Id: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:08:04 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem on my laptop and it's not the panel of gnome's fault. The apm system is probably affecting gnome. I own an IBM ThinkPad 760XD and had the same thing happen to me. I did some searching on google and found kernel level drivers to let linux handle correctly the apm system. Your Toshiba might have the same problem. Also, on my laptop, if I have a pcmcia card in the slot when suspending, the keyboard/mouse stop responding on wake. My workaround for this was to call "cardctl eject" in the suspend scripts for apmd-proxy. Hope this info helps. Good luck to you! Toralf Lund wrote: > I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or > something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: > > When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is > active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of > our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The > screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not > even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), > but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I > attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current > subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), > everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: > > (gdb) where > #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () > #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () > #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () > #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () > #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () > #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () > #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () > #7 0x80bff8b in main () > #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, > argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, > fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, > stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 > (gdb) > > However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only > reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding > panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I > guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing > sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something > to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of > applets that continually update their display. > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? > > -- > # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd > gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 > XFree86-4.0.1-1 > apmd-3.0final-18 > > XFree86 driver is "neomagic". > > - Toralf > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From robkra@gmx.net Fri Mar 23 15:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A6922C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15579 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2001 20:30:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:30:57 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Kraus To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Cant start GTK apps X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0005652802@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.186.142.108] Message-ID: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, X crashes and restarts after I start GTK apps on newly compiled XFree86-4.0.3. (KDE2 works fine; MDK 7.2): A little overview of my installation/problems: $ rpm -V gtk+ Unsatisfied dependencies for gtk+-1.2.8-6mdk: /sbin/ldconfig , libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libXi.so.6 but the libraries are there: # /sbin/ldconfig -v | grep libX ... libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.2 ... libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0 ... libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.4 the files libX11, libXi, libXext are in /usr/X11/lib/ e.g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so and I have made links to /usr/lib and /lib: # ls -l /usr/lib/libX11* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 19:16 /usr/lib/libX11.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 18:18 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* What else do I have to do to be able to start gnome apps? Thank you very much for your answer. robert -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From jg@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 23 15:35:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.pa-x.dec.com (unknown [204.123.2.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E152C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from src-mail.pa.dec.com (src-mail.pa.dec.com [16.4.16.35]) by mail2.pa-x.dec.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA04927; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by src-mail.pa.dec.com; id MAA12623; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Received: (from pachydrm@localhost) by pachyderm.pa.dec.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NKYmg193099; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client bombur.crl.dec.com, user jg) To: cmevoli@afsa.com Cc: Toralf Lund , GNOME mailing list In-Reply-To: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with behind its back. On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. Solution: Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, and move back to the X server at the end of resume. On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make this the default behavior is beyond me... But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage your hardware may have with power management). - Jim -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From drifter@outerlounge.de Fri Mar 23 17:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-235.gwdg.de (RAS23-235.gwdg.de [134.76.23.235]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A462BA99 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NLxYd30694 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 From: the drifter To: GNOME mailing list Subject: gdm-indirect-problem Message-ID: <20010323225934.A30653@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: the drifter , GNOME mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi ! While trying to deploy gdm in indirect-mode to get a look at the chooser, I got ############ error-message ############### gdm_xdmcp_decode: Could not create XDMCP buffer! ############ error-message ############### Can anybody enlighten me what this means (how it's caused) ? Thx in advance, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Fri Mar 23 20:18:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24922BAFB for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2O1IdH07499; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: Annamalai G Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Mar 2001 17:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > Greetings to All. > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. If that's not what you mean, please clarify. --Ben From landie@concentric.net Fri Mar 23 20:58:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AD2BB33 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA13303; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:45 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts005d39.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.236.243]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA21164; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:08 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: Robert Kraus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: quickq? Message-Id: <20010323201808.257b5f17.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> References: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when installing rc1 from source is there an order to follow From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 04:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CE22BB74 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23996; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:32:49 +0530 To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: icon labels. References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530 In-Reply-To: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ben FrantzDale writes: > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > Greetings to All. > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop background color. To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 distribution) and the enlightenment wm. Hope you could help. Thanks for the effort. Cheers, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 06:22:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9392BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm8B-0007lM-06; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:51 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.217.69]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm85-1PX3EeC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:23:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I have SUSE7.1 running and compiled the whole gnome.beta package after removing all SUSE created gnome. Gnome runs but there are some problems. Adding a laucher to panel as gnome-terminal or xterm works, but after restarting gnome they are lost. Lauching the background-properties-capplet with gnomecc never works, but if I first launch gnomcc and then background-properties-capplet via comand line the capplet works, Sound system doesn't seem to work. At startup gnome gives some warnings like that: SESSION_MANAGER=local/buero1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/756 SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - Succeeded GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108160 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1280 hbeg: 1424 hend: 1680 httl: 1688 vdsp: 960 vbeg: 960 vend: 970 vttl: 1019 flags: 0 Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0x81841B0) ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 598 (gsm_protocol_new): assertion `GNOME_CLIENT_CONNECTED (gnome_client)' failed. Sitzungsmanager konnte nicht kontaktiert werden Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GsmProtocol' ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 642 (gsm_protocol_get_current_session): assertion `protocol != NULL' failed. waiting for X server to shut down Has anyone an idea if this is typical at this state or what I did wrong during installation ? achim From landie@concentric.net Sat Mar 24 06:30:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335602BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id GAA20558; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:05 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts032d34.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.25.94]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id GAA29775; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:51:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Message-Id: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when trying source for RC1 is there a specific order to install them? -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sat Mar 24 07:05:00 EST 2001 From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 06:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BAC2DB53 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29215 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:26:18 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: startx file From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:32:56 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello all, This question is not related to gnome, but I thought I could clarify my doubt here itself. Please ignore this mail if not interested. In the startx file I see something like if [ "x$serverargs" = x ]; then serverargs="$1" else serverargs="$serverargs $1" fi I dont know why there is/was such a need. I feel that this if condition can just be replaced with serverargs="$serverargs $1" Am I right or did I overlook something? Also, one of the patterns in the while loop is (do refer to the startx file, if you have got the time and patience) /''*|\.*) Can anyone help me know why there are two single quotes there in that pattern? I am not saying its not required, but I dont know what its doing there. I apologize for asking such an off-topic question. But the problem is I am subscribed to so many mailing-lists and non of them are related to shell scripts and I am trying to avoid subscribing to new mailing lists. Hope you all would understand :-X Thanks for your time. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 07:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE72BDA8 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnX1-0004Yb-08; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:35 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.219.217]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnWy-2J2SJMC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> Cc: landie@concentric.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032413533700.02082@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Am Samstag, 24. März 2001 13:51 schrieben Sie: > when trying source for RC1 is there a > specific order to install them? I compiled in this order: glib-1.2.9 gtk+-1.2.9 audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 ORBit-0.5.7 libxml-1.8.11 oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 imlib-1.9.9 gnome-libs-1.2.13 libunicode-0.4 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gnome-print-0.27 libglade-0.16 gnome-vfs-1.0 gal-0.5 scrollkeeper-0.1.4 gtk-engines-0.12 libgtop-1.0.12 libghttp-1.0.9 gtop-1.0.13 xalf-0.7 rep-gtk-0.15 xml-i18n-tools-0.8.1 bonobo-0.37 bug-buddy-2.0 control-center-1.4.0 gtkhtml-0.8.2 gnome-guile-0.20pre2 ggv-1.0-beta1 ghex-1.2-beta1 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 gnome-audio-1.4.0 gnome-media-1.2.0 gnome-pim-1.3.2 gnome-python-1.4.0 gnome-user-docs-1.4.0 gnome-utils-1.4.0 medusa-0.5.0 ammonite-1.0.0 nautilus-1.0 gdm-2.2.0 sawfish-0.38 achim From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sat Mar 24 13:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E502D2DBD2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OIUqa26020 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Control Center - 1.3.90 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.24.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Message-Id: <985458780.17174.6.camel@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Um, I was wondering - shouldn't the theme selector be under the Look and Feel section of the Control Center, instead of Desktop? That would make a bit more sense. I am using 1.3.90 (from Eazel website), so this might already be changed in the 1.4 package, but I can't get most of those to compile (known errors, from what I've read, so I'm waiting for the next RC/full release). Just my $.02 -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sat Mar 24 16:31:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48F2BCB2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2OLVJH25036; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: G Annamalai Cc: Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530, G Annamalai wrote: > Ben FrantzDale writes: > > > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > > Greetings to All. > > > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. > > Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have > a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background > _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop > background color. > > To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 > distribution) and the enlightenment wm. > > Hope you could help. > > Thanks for the effort. Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent text on the desktop, but there is one that does. --Ben From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 24 19:26:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCA52BF73 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2P0PMM09387; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:25:22 GMT Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Mike Newman To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: G Annamalai , Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 25 Mar 2001 00:25:21 +0000 Message-Id: <985479922.5650.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels > on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, > but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to > Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version > of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent > text on the desktop, but there is one that does. Support for transparent icons and text labels goes back quite a way in gmc I think, but setting it up isn't obvious. Open a gmc window (such as "Home Directory"), select Settings->Preferences, and on the Desktop tab select "Use Shaped Text" Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 02:42:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952442BDD0 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:41:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:43:13 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list (maybe in a different gnome list?). It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory Thanks... From datazone@airmail.net Sun Mar 25 05:19:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from covert.iadfw.net (covert.black-ring.iadfw.net [209.196.123.142]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A6E2CA5C for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from scab.caprolite.org from [207.136.36.203] by covert.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with smtp for gnome-list@gnome.org sender: id ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) To: moparkix@bigfoot.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: datazone@airmail.net Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz X-Mailer: Gmail 0.7.0pre4 (http://gmail.linuxpower.org) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow and post it here. > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > Thanks... > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 25 08:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 887082BAAA for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29884 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Received: from r1251.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.23.235) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:52:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: , Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it should fix this issue. Jens On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 datazone@airmail.net wrote: > as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something > really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a > "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the > buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes > into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is > something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix > it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a > "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow > and post it here. > > > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > > > Thanks... From len@philpot.org Sun Mar 25 14:29:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFBE2BBDD for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010325192848.XNNQ24883.io@vulcan> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:28:48 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Items missing from gnome menu - How to fix? Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:30 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032513343000.01245@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've just apparently lost my session preferences, including several items in the system part of the gnome menu. The most important I'd like to restore are the Logout and Lock Screen choices, but even the Help choice is gone. The user stuff I know how, but not these. I'm able to add a button for each to the panel, but not the menu. This is on gnome 1.2 under RH7. I'm logged in as user 'len', but since it's my machine, I have full access if needed. Here's what led up to it: I had an apparently runaway process (fetchnews, maybe?) that caused the root filesystem to fill up completely. I found an 800MB+ ~/.xesession.errors and several hundred megs in /var/spool/squid. I was able to get the usage back down where it should be, but it never showed up (df -k), so I decided to reboot. Maybe I should have run 'sync'? Anyway, when it tried to shutdown squid, the system hung, so I had to hit the button. Now that I'm back up, usage is back to a normal level, but I've lost my gnome session preferences (or some of them). Another interesting thing is that if I su to root in a terminal and run gnomecc, it starts, but I get these kind of errors: root] ~ # gnomecc ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'background-properties-capplet'. aborting... ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'screensaver-properties-capplet'. aborting... Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 730 (gtk_container_remove): assertion `widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file gtk-multiview.c: line 440 (gtk_multiview_set_current): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1508 (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(unknown)' to `GtkWidget' Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3493 (gtk_widget_get_style): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. etc., etc. With each applet I choose from gnomecc, instead of the applet, I get a new instance of gnomecc. However, if I login as root, it runs normally. At any rate, I need to get the logout/lock and whatever else I'm missing from the system part of the meny added back. How can I do this? Am I better off just deleting or renaming ~/.gnome* and starting over, or will this even accomplish anything? Since I'm on the Internet with a cable modem, just out of paranoia, what are some common checks I can do to see if anyone gained access? Thanks. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 19:22:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDE62D2EC for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:22:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:23:32 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > Hi, > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > should > fix this issue. > > Jens > Ok, I must be really dense. I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd the resulting spec against the one found in the gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. From rob@ZOOstation.cc Sun Mar 25 21:23:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ZOOstation.cc (203-109-159-60.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.159.60]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7C2DC3F for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rob@localhost) by ZOOstation.cc (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NJAaK01435; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:10:36 +1200 Message-Id: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Subject: File Dialog From: Rob Brown-Bayliss To: GNOME List Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more useful as a users recent directory list. I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. -- Rob Brown-Bayliss ---======o======--- www.ZOOstation.cc From toralf@kscanners.com Mon Mar 26 01:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3C2E14B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hQqI-0007Cm-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABEE6DA.DFA5C3A5@kscanners.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Gettys Cc: cmevoli@afsa.com, GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your > display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering > with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with > behind its back. > > On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing > the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. That's what I've been thinking all along, but what strikes me as really odd is that I've not been able to reproduce the problem with a simple X session, or even GNOME without a menu panel or a panel "sliding in". > > > > Solution: > > Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, > and move back to the X server at the end of resume. > > On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this > automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe > recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make > this the default behavior is beyond me... I forgot to tell that I tried that earlier, but it caused but the X server would crash just after the switch back from the VT. Again, this seems strange to me, as this never happens if I change back and forth by hand (i.e. via Ctrl+Alt+), or even if I switch to a virtual console before suspending, then let the apm script change back. > > > But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage > your hardware may have with power management). > - Jim - Toralf From atounkara@nomade.fr Mon Mar 26 02:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183472BE87 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nomade.fr (127.0.0.1) by mail.libertysurf.net (5.1.053) id 3AA3431E0003BE88 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:36:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:36:14 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: SunOS and graphic cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "atounkara@nomade.fr" To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 47.162.85.36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've chosen to install gnone under Sun Solaris 5.7, but it seems to have some problems with the colors (limited to 256 colors) How can i display information about my board under gnome ? ------------------- L'e-mail gratuit pas comme les autres. Pour cr=E9er votre adresse : http://www.nomade.fr/courrier/ouvrir.asp NOMADE.FR, pourquoi chercher ailleurs ? From jens@eknif.de Mon Mar 26 02:40:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 500C12DE43 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24909 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Received: from 213-21-58-14.access.surf-callino.de (213.21.58.14) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:41:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 moparkix@bigfoot.com wrote: > > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > > > Hi, > > > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > > should > > fix this issue. > > > > Jens > > > > Ok, I must be really dense. > > I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out > gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd > the resulting spec against the one found in the > gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the offical cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to this mail so you can test it out. 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I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on every check. Has anyone else seen this? Is there an alternative to the gnome-core Mailcheck when using an IMAP server? -- Toralf Lund +47 66 85 51 22 Kongsberg Scanners AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.kscanners.no/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) From jaka@activetools.si Mon Mar 26 04:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A242BF3B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378517282; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:07:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A213A22; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:11:19 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > every check. make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a lot. regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From adam@bobomobo.cwru.edu Mon Mar 26 04:59:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5342DB65 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id EAA00911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 From: adam morley To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326045904.A831@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc>; from rob@ZOOstation.cc on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. yes. i like this idea. i have often wondered why gnome doesn't have it. those who have used windows 2000 (others too) notice the left hand dialog with "mycomputer" etc. it would be cool if we could have this, and make it configurable up the ying yang. > > > -- > > Rob Brown-Bayliss > ---======o======--- > www.ZOOstation.cc > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- thanks adam From adltorre@terra.es Wed Mar 21 18:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E572E001 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.terra.es ([213.99.219.44]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GAKM3600.12U; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:01:45 +0100 From: Antonio de la Torre To: veillard@redhat.com Cc: "John B. Stephens,II" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321170144.A521@nono> References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 16:44:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.21 16:44:06 +0100 Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version > of > > rpm..." > > > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > > spoke of. > > > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. I had the same problem as you. The first time i tested nautilus (i haven't tried anymore) i installed the rpm (i think it's 3.0.5 version) package provided in Eazel's page for red hat 6.2 and i could use gnorpm with no problem. I think this is the url: http://www.eazel.com/download/download_rpm Good luck! -- _______________________ Antonio de la Torre http://www.nonoweb.f2s.com adltorre@terra.es icq #19771138 From chris@scary.beasts.org Wed Mar 21 17:46:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.18.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31272CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19329 invoked by uid 501); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Evans X-Sender: To: jacob berkman Cc: Subba Rao , Gnome Users Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports In-Reply-To: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001, jacob berkman wrote: > > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? > > yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in > either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: > > ORBIIOPUSock=1 > ORBIIOPIPv4=0 > ORBIIOPIPv6=0 All GNOME-1.2 packagers, AFAIK, have opted for these safe defaults (fondly we recall the massive flame wars ;-). Including: - RedHat 7.0 - Ximian GNOME - Debian, so I'm told Perhaps the original poster is a RedHat6.x or other GNOME-1.0 user? Cheers Chris From m0par@home.com Wed Mar 21 17:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585162BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:18:55 -0600 From: Booboo To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? Reply-To: m0par@home.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001, gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) > Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org > Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? > > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or > directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or > directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. > -- > Gregory > oaf and GConf ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ From luciano@xmaster.scazzons.scz Thu Mar 22 15:41:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xmaster.scazzons.scz (ppp-1-220.21-151.libero.it [151.21.220.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845B32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from luciano@localhost) by xmaster.scazzons.scz (8.11.2/8.8.7) id f2M8HkY13638 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:45 +0100 From: Luciano Boschi To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal Message-ID: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Reply-To: luckylux@freemail.it References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from gannam@india.dharma.com on mer, mar 21, 2001 at 12:30:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Alan Patterson writes: > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. In preferences dialog: use --login so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell -- Luciano Boschi ** member of PLUG: Prato Linux User Group ** http://www.prato.linux.it/ ( /~lboschi/ ) ** member of Dark Skies Italian Fan Club ** http://www.darkskiesworld.com/dsfc/frameset.htm From louisg00@bellsouth.net Wed Mar 21 19:12:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D12D418 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-197-82.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.197.82]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA18095; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103220008.TAA18095@mail0.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/plain On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Ok guys last question, > > > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > > gnome-users-guide? > > Yes. > > It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in > it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although > it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. > > /me adds another to the todo list. > > Telsa > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed. Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 
On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote:

> > Ok guys last question,

> > 

> > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing

> > gnome-users-guide?

> 

> Yes.

> 

> It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in

> it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although

> it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum.

> 

> /me adds another to the todo list.

> 

> Telsa

> 

> _______________________________________________

> gnome-list mailing list

> gnome-list@gnome.org

> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed.

Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n-- From saperei@baitaca.ipen.br Thu Mar 22 10:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from baitaca.ipen.br (baitaca.ipen.br [200.136.52.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD162BCDC for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.ipen.br (IDENT:saperei@[10.0.8.26]) by baitaca.ipen.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12383 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:26 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA1615.90667208@net.ipen.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:17 -0300 From: Sergio Anefalos Pereira Organization: IPEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with mouse pointer X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody ! It is my first time in this list and I am a beginner in Linux systems. Unfortunately I am having some problem and I have no idea how to fix it. I'm using RedHat 6.2 and a PS/2 mouse. When a changed the screen resolution from 600x400 to 800x600 using Xconfigurator, the mouse pointer disappeared and what I have now is a white square of 2 x 2 cm. It moves exactly like the mouse pointer and it works like it. The upper left corner activates links and icons. But it's impossible to work with this square. I have tried to change the mouse (to serial one) and reinstall it. In text window mode, it seems to work well, but in the xwindow mode it is terrible. The only thing that I wouldn't like to do is reinstall the Linux. I have many programs and other stuff. So please, does anyone could help me ????? Thank you for your attention, Sergio From justinb@tricord.com Mon Mar 26 07:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from idoru.tricord.com (unknown [64.240.27.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06932DC1A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from justinb@localhost) by idoru.tricord.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03317; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 From: Justin Banks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15039.15527.522457.309028@idoru.tricord.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 (CST) X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: justinb@tricord.com X-Supreme-Numerical-Value: Bleen To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: function key <-> mouse button bindings X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello - I couldn't find this in the FM, and I'm not quite sure how to do it. What I'd like is to map F4 so that it'll paste from the cut buffer into xterms. I know this should be easy, I just can't quite get it. I'm running core 1.0, but an upgrade is on the map, as soon as I can find the time. Thanks much, justinb -- Justin Banks Tricord, Inc. justinb@tricord.com "Sorry I am off-topic, but OpenNT is the 2nd best oxymoron I've ever seen. Right after Microsoft Works." (Jacek Pliszka in comp.emacs.xemacs) From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 26 08:31:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE502E27A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04531; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:03:31 +0530 To: luckylux@freemail.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> From: G Annamalai Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:10:05 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Luciano Boschi writes: > > Alan Patterson writes: > > > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > > In preferences dialog: use --login > so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell Actually the best thing to do is to put all your customizations in your .bashrc file and source it from .bash_profile file. .bash_profile file is read only by the login shell and the .bashrc file is read by every (bash) shell. Maybe just have a look in the bash man/info page. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Mon Mar 26 09:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C012BB41 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.166]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18511; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:51:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Rob Brown-Bayliss Cc: GNOME List In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:50:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. > > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, and in my opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be very useful. A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Bart From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 26 10:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3682BEE0 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2QF6Ds22381; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: An Apology From: Mike Newman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:06:12 +0100 Message-Id: <985619172.21469.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Everyone, I want to apologise for a flippant and thoughtless comment I made on #gnome yesterday, concerning recent events at Eazel, Inc. E-mail received since the event has reminded me that sarcasm, and indeed my very warped, very British sense of humour do not translate well to IRC. The comment was ill-judged, and no offence was intended. I'd like to extend sincere apologies to anyone who I've offended or angered. ...and now back to your regularly scheduled programming... Humbly, Mike Newmann -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mawarkus@t-online.de Mon Mar 26 10:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5AC2BCB6; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hYx8-0007QG-02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:42 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.158.12.114]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hYwt-2HORAOC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:27 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11080; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion +++ Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 +++ Bart Kuik e-mails me. Film at 11. Reply right now, after the break. > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, Yes. > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. > A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, > Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with > extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency > between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file requester. I don't know what became of the project. I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. We should not repeat other people's errors. mawa -- CO2 | >< - FUEL HERE | | LS-L ------' ROYAL +-------+ +------+--+ | +----+ SPACE | DON'T | | CAUTION | HARD ,--------' | DANGER: NAVY | STEP | +---------+ POINT B| SIG-29-42 | NNTP C/1897 +-------+ From moparkix@bigfoot.com Mon Mar 26 12:59:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24CD2BB23 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:00:52 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: [New spec works--Thanks]Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the > offical > cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to > this > mail so you can test it out. > > Jens > Thanks Jens. It works here. From bathd@valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au Mon Mar 26 18:13:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DB2DCD4; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from valpro (valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.87]) by firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA22297; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:48 +1000 From: "David T. Bath" Reply-To: David.Bath@edipost.auspost.com.au Organization: EDIPost, Australia Post Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:46 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> In-Reply-To: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Subject: Re: File Dialog MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032709134600.01151@valpro> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tuesday 27 March 2001 01:12, Matthias Warkus wrote: > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. A couple of things they have got right are 1) Multi-file select is trivial 2) The files, once selected, are displayed QUOTED, to stop confusion between embedded spaces and filename delimeters. --=20 David T. Bath - bathd@edipost.auspost.com.au +61 3 9204 8713 (w) 0419 316 634 (M) From miguel@erandi.helixcode.com Mon Mar 26 19:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from erandi.helixcode.com (erandi.ximian.com [141.154.95.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DC2CA46; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by erandi.helixcode.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11383; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:51:52 -0500 To: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> From: Miguel de Icaza Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: mawarkus@t-online.de's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now Miguel. From mchamp@texas.net Mon Mar 26 21:57:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBFB2CE0C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net [209.99.60.5]) by mw2.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R2uuf05745 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:56:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: Problems removing items from Gnome system menu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am having a lot of problems just trying to remove some of the items in the Gnome system menu. I completely removed the Applications folder using gmenu, but I still see it on my menu panel. How can I get rid of these applications that are sticking around? They don't show up in gmenu (as root) at all. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Champagne, Software Engineer Capital Institutional Services, Inc. hm: mchamp@texas.net wk: mchampagne@capis.com From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 01:55:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD7FC2BDB7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 999 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r925.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.22.163) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for any hints. Jens From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 02:10:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DD82DF1D for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7528 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r1322.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.24.52) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:10:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a hires version of the gnome logo exists, which one can use for printing? Thanks for any pointers. Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Tue Mar 27 02:14:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84D2D4A4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hnfQ-0006me-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:23 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaka Mocnik Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Toralf Lund wrote: > > > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > > every check. > make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a > lot. Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... - Toralf From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 05:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CD2BDB1; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08839; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:55:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271055.MAA08839@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 12:54:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500, Miguel de Icaza wrote: <---> > Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an > optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now > It's only there if you select the 'list view' (small icons with text beside them) as far as I can remember..... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 06:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414B2BF70 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10670; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271142.NAA10670@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Hires printable GNOME logo? From: Bart Kuik To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 13:40:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200, Jens Finke wrote: > Hi, > > does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in > .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we > really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for > any hints. I only have one as .xcf, but I don't know where it came from, so I putted it on my homepage: http://www.rendo.dekooi.nl/~kuik/logo-gnome.xcf.bz2 It's a 1320x1500px bzipped xcf with four layers (bg, text, foot, foot-shadow), hope that's enough :-) Bart From A.J.Molenaar@xirion.nl Tue Mar 27 07:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from arseen.xirion.nl (arseen.xirion.nl [194.178.60.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089E02D40C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from technetium.xirion.nl (technetium.xirion.nl [194.178.60.122]) by arseen.xirion.nl (8.9.3/ROU-HKA) with ESMTP id NAA00785; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:49:07 +0200 Received: by technetium.xirion.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Arjan J. Molenaar" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: RE: File Dialog Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik says: > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and should be preserved IMHO. Ideas? Regards, Arjan From kilaru@netcontinuum.com Tue Mar 27 07:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from skilaru.netcontinuum.com (unknown [203.200.58.165]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15862CE0C for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcontinuum.com (IDENT:kilaru@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by skilaru.netcontinuum.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05756 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 From: Satish C Kilaru X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------19785FA4E684E22358569750" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list Thanks in advance Bye Kilaru --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="kilaru.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Satish C Kilaru Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kilaru.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kilaru;Satish C tel;work:91-80-8411438/9 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:kilaru@netcontinuum.com org:NetContinuum version:2.1 email;internet:kilaru@netcontinuum.com title:Software Development Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;NetContinuum ltd =0D=0AUnit No. 7, 2nd Floor, Innovator,=0D=0AITPL ;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India x-mozilla-cpt:;16608 fn:Satish C Kilaru end:vcard --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750-- From fabrice.colin@muscat.com Tue Mar 27 08:52:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sithonia.muscat.com (sithonia.muscat.com [193.131.74.132]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4232CE23 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from muscat.com (red.muscat.com [193.131.74.121]) by sithonia.muscat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13643 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC09A87.C66DE1F9@muscat.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:49:59 +0100 From: Fabrice Colin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <20010326170516.69DCA2D289@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I > don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file > requester. I don't know what became of the project. > > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. > > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. > > mawa Some months ago, somebody posted on this list a link to a library that patches/replaces the default file dialog. I find it most useful and this is actually what I use at home. But I am unable to remember its name or its URL... Maybe the person who posted it originally is reading this and could refresh my mind ? Fabrice -- "If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does." -- Groucho Marx From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 09:46:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0732BDC0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hukD-0007Ou-04; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:49 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.167]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hujb-1sLbzFC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:11 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22889 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Need German-language Nautilus screenshots Message-ID: <20010327154735.A22659@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, as you might know, due to a strange bug, Nautilus does not work on my system. I need some screenshots of it, however, and it's very unlikely that Eazel will fix the bug before the paper deadline (April 2nd). This one goes out to all the German-language guys here: Can someone of you do a couple of screenshots of what you consider important aspects of Nautilus 1.0? Please use a German locale and don't include any Eazel logos or other corporate identity. Thank you very much, mawa -- Nipple Mountains | Fucking Creek, Virginia | Sugar Tit, Tit Butts | Tickle Cunt Branch, Virginia | Kentucky Teton Mountain | Coldass Creek, North Carolina | -- mid-1800s' U.S. placenames From federico@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 10:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (du-148-221-119-218.prodigy.net.mx [148.221.119.218]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBDA2CBBE for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15870; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Message-Id: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-mantra: masochism, not policy To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" writes: > pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > > (file type not resolution) > > Try "man xsetroot" for info. > > But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, > cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters > would give you an image in root window placed as you want). Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Federico From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 10:54:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673C2CEDE; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23292; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:54:34 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271554.RAA23292@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: RE: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Arjan "J." Molenaar Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200, Arjan J. Molenaar wrote: > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts > to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference > they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans > were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the > wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly > like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and > should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? > Something based on the NeXTstep fileselector should indeed be the best (I assume the Wings / WindowMaker one is an exact clone). Small (360x320), with minimal mouse movement and not too much options. But going up in the directory structure (back to root) is a hell, coz you have to use the horizontal scrollbar with the scrollbuttons in the left bottom, while your mouse-pointer is in the right top side of the window. Everybody makes mistakes, and it's VERY uncomfortable if the interface 'punishes' you for making them. I didn't figure out where a button or something similar must be placed, but I know there must be a better way to do it. I think it's best to put the "recent files" in a virtual folder. At opening the window there must be 3 choices in the left-hand selection-box : home, recent, and the standard working-dir of the app (ie, $HOME/files/nameofapp) That's as far as I see the perfect fileselector. I ain't a interface-expert, I can't even hack a gtk+ app or whatever, I'm (still) just a user.... Hmmm.... nice.... the apple-like taskmenu of the gnome menu-panel (gnome-core 1.4.0) crashes (and restarts, good work! :) ) if I want to open it if I have the WindowMaker configger WPrefs.app opened with a dialog of the fileselector. I found a bug in a stable-release. gee. I'm gonna submit it. :-) Bart From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 11:15:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A522E0FF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hw7v-00078A-03; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:23 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.19]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hw7N-1Y9tMOC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:14:49 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07104 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph in Gnumeric. Or am I mistaken? mawa -- It is a common characteristic of all democracies that intelligence is so highly regarded as to exempt the holder from the cares of office -- major@pyrmania From famrom@idecnet.com Tue Mar 27 11:26:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp4.eresmas.com (unknown [62.81.160.201]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA412DC49 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship ([62.83.23.149]) by smtp4.eresmas.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAV71Y06.KDX for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:27:34 +0200 Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01831 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com>; from federico@ximian.com on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:47:29AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" which magically means that GNOME can be used from scripts or CLI too ( forbid!). Or the reply was of "GNOME is only clicky clicky" kind? :] BTW, there should be a --no-gui or --from-script or something like that, cos --init-session-settings does not sound nice, IMHO. As well as access to tile modes and other settings, cos until then, other commands win in script mode. GSR From jacob@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 11:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7F2DC7A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14hwW5-0002rd-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:40:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Bitmap format? From: jacob berkman To: Guillermo "S." Romero / Familia Romero Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985711221.10891.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. > > Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet > --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" does the --init-session-settings work multiple times? on some capplets, they acquire an X atom or something when they start up which causes them not to init their settings if run multiple times. jacob -- "I ain't no monkey, sho' cain't climb no tree." -- Robert Plant From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:08:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CEF2BCA2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27063; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric From: Bart Kuik To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:06:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > in Gnumeric. > > Or am I mistaken? > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD262D3B8 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27749 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:21:42 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? Bart From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 15:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132C2BA85 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19721; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:01:44 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already there) - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is quite complex): installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] --debug - print out debugging information (useful) --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - look discussion about fontmap files --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need at least one afm + one pfb to create font) fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) should be given by --assignment option. Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): installer/gnome-font-install \ --debug \ --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ --fontmap-path=./fonts Fortunately: This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up correct installation process in postinit scripts. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > Bart > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:27:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117EE2C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26836 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202731.26835.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:27:31 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DCF82C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26857 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202801.26856.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:01 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57E22C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BF2BAAF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06792; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:46:27 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: some newbie questions. From: Bart Kuik To: Peter Berthlin Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:45:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of the Control Center > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:53:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF07B2DFCF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07245; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:53:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: Lauris Kaplinski Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks! The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the canvas used by Gnumeric? grtz, Bart On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > Hello! > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > there) > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > quite complex): > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > look discussion about fontmap files > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > should be given by --assignment option. > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > --debug \ > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > Fortunately: > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > Best wishes, > Lauris Kaplinski > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > Bart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 16:21:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7E2BEE0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07268; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:21:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272121.AAA07268@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 23:20:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! It is not a bug, or if, than the bug of X itself. Gtk canvas (gnumeric) has to use X fonts, antialiased one (print preview) uses font outlines directly. But antialiased canvas has other problems, so it is unpracticable for gnumeric. The situation will become better, if gnome will move to X render, but that will take some time. Sometimes gnumeric display will become better, if you reorder your fonts in X/xfs configuration file. Gnome-print uses first X font with correct style and size for Gtk canvas display - so if scalable fonts are before bitmap ones, the scalable ones will be used. >From my xfs config file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Thanks! > > The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do > you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very > crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the > canvas used by Gnumeric? > > grtz, > Bart > > > On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > > Hello! > > > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > > there) > > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > > quite complex): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > > look discussion about fontmap files > > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > > should be given by --assignment option. > > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > > --debug \ > > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > > > Fortunately: > > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > > > Best wishes, > > Lauris Kaplinski > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From trow@trna.ximian.com Tue Mar 27 17:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C52BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from trow@localhost) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28019; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 From: Jon Trowbridge To: Bart Kuik Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327170122.A21095@trna.ximian.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Kuik , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > > in Gnumeric. > > > > Or am I mistaken? > > > > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You > have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not > reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just > remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... This is correct. I don't know what the precise plans are, but the bonobo-enabled gnumeric should be packaged sometime post-1.4. When this happens, the main "entry barrier" to using Guppi with Gnumeric (i.e. the need to build gnumeric from the sources) will have been removed. -JT From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 17:30:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-161.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BFE2BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RMX5s18911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:45:11PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > the Control Center > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from the main config dir) and look for section that starts out __ACLASS __BGN __NAME DESKBINDINGS then find the config lines that look similar to: __NEXT_ACTION __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL __ACTION __A_SHOW_MENU "named ROOT_2" and delete those five or comment them out or change them, whatever. > Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's > the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works > perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, > like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that > conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big > E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... > > Bart austin From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 18:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-49.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D882BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RNNI729083 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:17 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327182317.A28836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:33:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Austin hall wrote: > on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > > the Control Center > > > > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? > > edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from > the main config dir) and look for section that starts out > __ACLASS __BGN > __NAME DESKBINDINGS > > then find the config lines that look similar to: > __NEXT_ACTION > __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" > __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS > __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL oops, "__MODIFER_KEY __CTRL" won't be there. that's what i did to fix the problem in my own configuration that I copied the example from. austin From shochat@acm.org Tue Mar 27 19:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC22BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S0kaU15205; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AC134BF.2080606@acm.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:47:59 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010326 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satish C Kilaru Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Instructions can be found here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list It's at the bottom of the page ("To change your subscription...") Satish C Kilaru wrote: > Hi All > > Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list > > Thanks in advance > > Bye > Kilaru > From stefan.mattauch@post.rwth-aachen.de Wed Mar 28 01:51:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from desktop2.home.de (s4m222.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.222]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA3D2BDD0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.rwth-aachen.de (IDENT:a@desktop2.home.de [127.0.0.1]) by desktop2.home.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2S6s9j01297 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC18A91.8D0B9DC1@post.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 From: Stefan Mattauch Reply-To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Arjan J. Molenaar" wrote: > > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some > attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how > much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about > it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current > file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ > style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like > the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice > feature and should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? Some idea I have is coming form the Acorn-Desktop. I don't wether someone knows these machienes or not, doesn't matter in the end anyway. But there file-selection was quiet simple, because they used the DRAG&DROP mechanism to the end. Just drag a Icon (mime-type) of your file to the place where it should be. Small, simpl and effective!! Editing of the filename or type was possible too. There could be additional things BUT not to much. For creating a directory you should have a good working directory-viewer (gmc, nautilus ... ;-)) (or something new ?)) Stefan Mattauch From jaka@activetools.si Wed Mar 28 03:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BBD2D433 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB037282; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A2398D; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AC1A1E8.29DD6CCB@si.tlan> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:33:44 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: Jaka Mocnik , GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time > back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but > I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... no, there is no such bug in bugzilla. I couldn't find it, anyway... regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 03:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.91.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E52CE82 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04356; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:56:32 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:12:26 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Takeshi Aihana , Murali Kumar , k_anjuta@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, Anjuta 0.1.4 has been released. I am sorry it's a bit late, but that's because I the got deadline on the deadline date! Anjuta does not yet use the Bugzilla for its bug reporting/fixing, so I am reporting the changes here. Anjuta 0.1.4 has be targeted as the bug fixed and more stable stable version of Anjuta (without any feature addition) keeping in mind the release of Gnome-1.4. We have even skipped and shielded Anjuta 0.1.3 from gnome-1.4. because we wanted stable version of Anjuta to be with gnome-1.4. The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the users having old glade from generating project. 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. 7) Debugger now takes program args. 8) Added japanese translation file. 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Follow the following links to get Anjuta 0.1.4: ----------------------------- * Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ * Anjuta Download: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/download.html * Anjuta Screen shots: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/scrshot.html -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Honi soit la vache qui rit. ------------------------------------------------------------- From cardiel@gmx.ch Wed Mar 28 07:39:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 287192CE37 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21887 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Received: from h55p105-2.delphi.afb.lu.se (HELO strych7) (130.235.187.181) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 From: cardie To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian on slackware? Message-Id: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.61 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. cardiel From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 28 07:52:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9DA2DDDF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-13.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@[195.7.143.173]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12099; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200103281252.OAA12099@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Ximian on slackware? From: Bart Kuik To: cardie Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 14:51:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... Slackware also isn't in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... Bart On 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200, cardie wrote: > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > cardiel > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jik@foxinternet.net Wed Mar 28 13:15:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8E62D2BF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:14:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > From: cardie > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... And it isn't needed to install programs..... > Slackware also isn't > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. From philippedoucet@hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:18:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1112BB19 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:18:15 -0800 Received: from 24.157.72.219 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.157.72.219] From: "Philippe Doucet" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bash script question. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6AFB2A0:01C0B7BB] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion



I was wondering if someone coul help me. I"m writting a script in redhat 6.2 with bash.

I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a command that will put a white space between each letters of the word.

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From reinhard.mueller@bytewise.at Wed Mar 28 14:34:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from email03.aon.at (WARSL401PIP5.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C292BA9A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5561312 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Received: from n816p010.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO bytewise.at) ([62.47.45.234]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC23D08.F48B9ED2@bytewise.at> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:36 +0200 From: Reinhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Organization: BYTEWISE Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Doucet Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bash script question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Philippe Doucet wrote: > I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a > command that will put a white space between each letters of the word. try: cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g this also puts a whitespace in front of the word. You can remove that by doing cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g | sed -e "s/^ //" but I'm sure there are more elegant ways for doing the latter. BTW I don't see anything gnome-specific about this problem :) -- Reinhard Müller BYTEWISE Software GmbH A-6890 Lustenau, Enga 2 http://www.bytewise.at From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 28 14:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E682B2BE1B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2SJvda03379 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack Message-ID: <20010328205739.D1248@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net>; from jik@foxinternet.net on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > From: cardie > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > installer?. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: You can download pre-rolled tgzs from [1]Poland, or get the [2]binary rpms or [3]source rpms from the Red Hat directory at [4]our ftp site, and install by hand with rpm. Or you can convert them to slack packages with rpm2tgz. And, in a brave trick of hackery, you can fool the graphical installer into thinking you're a Red Hat user. The command: echo "Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)" > /etc/redhat-release has been reported to make the installer work, although you're likely to have difficulty with one or another dependency somewhere. 1. ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/packages/helix 2. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/ 3. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/SRPMS/ > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P > I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. Eh? Ximian just says "here's how to try, but we don't support Slack". Where did Red Hat come into this? I think the GNOME hackers who have never worked at RH might be a little offended at the idea that RH developed all of GNOME. > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... It isn't needed if you want to compile from scratch. It isn't needed if you're using the GNOME packages off Slackware 7.1. It's probably not needed if you grab the rpms or debs and run alien (dunno). It is needed by the Ximian installer though. > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same > guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something > that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". And http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of Slackware was discussed. Which is exactly one week ago. For future reference, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ is a search interface for all the GNOME lists hosted at gnome.org. Telsa From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 28 16:21:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D553C2BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 17978925 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC25639.DD4F7BA3@megapathdsl.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:23:05 -0800 From: Miles Lane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac26 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Have you folks discussed Microsoft HailStorm? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion http://www.microsoft.com/net/hailstorm.asp From landie@concentric.net Wed Mar 28 22:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD42BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA13431; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:48 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from mail.concentric.net (ts009d48.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.237.204]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA20002; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.concentric.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386), from userid 500) id ED5EF38507; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Cc: beta@helixcode.com;;;, suse-list Subject: nautilus Message-ID: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? gnome what, i have helix gnome installed -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Wed Mar 28 22:05:00 EST 2001 From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 23:47:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3582E0A6; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01907; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:12:51 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC2C107.8808B9C5@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:48 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: gnome-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org, linux-india-programmers@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org, anjuta-announce@lists.sourceforge.net, anjuta-list@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> <001a01c0b78e$68d1e8c0$f5616c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." wrote: > Does Anjuta support C++ yet? last I downloaded it, it did not support C++. > If not do you have an rough estimate as to when it will? > That was what I've been afraid of when I skipped Anjuta 0.1.3 from Gnome releases. Actually, the changes I have given is for Anjuta 0.1.4 *wrt* Anjuta 0.1.3. Since, Anjuta 0.1.3 was not announced officially for Gnome (It was announced as the Alpha release for the developers only), I am giving the ChangeLog of Anjuta-0.1.3 *wrt* Anjuta-0.1.2 (which probably is the version you are using right now. The list is a bit long. :-). New in Anjuta 0.1.3 (wrt Anjuta 0.1.2): --------------------------- 1.=> Anjuta now integrates Scintilla editing component: Automatic syntax hilighting (using lexers). Code folding/hiding . Linenumbers/markers display. Text zoomming. Text autocompletion Automatic indentation and indentation guides ... and much more. 2.=> Dynamic Project Management: Anjuta no longer uses the templete based project management. Provides project configuration. Added two more modules in project management: (Help module and Translation module). Added BONOBO support and BONOBO application widzard. Support for C++ prjects. 3.=> Java style Properties management: Now uses Java style properties management. Which makes it highly configurable, both from distributor's and user's side. 4.=> Supports for Other languages added: Java, Perl, Python, LaTeX, ... and others can be user configurable. 5.=> On-Board command editor: Facilates customization of commands used for compiling, building and execution. 6.=> Provides Hilite style editor: Used for custumizing Syntax hiliting style. 7.=> More inteligent messaging system: Now error messages (or messages in general) can be browsed using goto Prev/Next message, goto start/end of block and goto matching braces. 8.=> Bookmarks management: Anjuta has now supported Bookmarks management. 9.=> Debugger: Now breakpoints can be toggled Onboard. Added Run to cursor. Fixed some earlier bugs. 10.=> Added Two more toolbars: Browser toolbar for browsing messages, bookmarks and code blocks. Format toolbar for easy formating of code statements. 11.=> Application GUI: Smarter and more informative status bar. Improved memory to remember Application GUI configuration between sessions. ---------------0-------------------------------- > > > The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: (wrt Anjuta 0.1.3): > >-------------------------------------------- > > > > 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the > > users having old glade from generating project. > > > > 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. > > > > 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. > > > > 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. > > > > 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. > > > > 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. > > > > 7) Debugger now takes program args. > > > > 8) Added japanese translation file. > > > > 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Postmen never die, they just lose their zip. ------------------------------------------------------------- From chuck@fiu.edu Thu Mar 29 00:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from spn25c0.fiu.edu (unknown [131.94.68.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F092D3A2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fiu.edu ([129.37.230.177]) by spn25c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.03.00 201-232-128 license 840fca18751889914c07c5419b2f6990) with ESMTP id <20010329053903.IHNG19388.spn25c0@fiu.edu> for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500 From: Chuck Organization: FIU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Where are my Icons ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 01:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D941E2BD01 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T6XwH18326; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Ben FrantzDale To: Chuck Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist --Ben On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Thu Mar 29 02:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ultra.dsea.unipi.it (ultra.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76052BB47 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dsea.unipi.it (IDENT:coppelli@ssdmw.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.253]) by ultra.dsea.unipi.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2T7Gg616975 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200 From: Alessandro Coppelli Reply-To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14smp i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem with pager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi to all. I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) when start "startx" I obtain ------ Desk guide Alert Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not running a gnome compliant window manager. Gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper desk guide operation . ------- I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) Where is the problem ??? Alessandro From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 29 02:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC672C8C7 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.243]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01602; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:08:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200103290708.JAA01602@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Bart Kuik To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: Chuck , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 09:06:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you have a menubar on top of the screen, you can get the tasklist by clicking in the right side of the menubar. The Apple style. If you want a Windows-style taskbar, leftclick on the panel where you want to have it -> panel -> add to panel -> applet -> utility -> tasklist Bart On 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist > > --Ben > > On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 02:18:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438622BAC2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T7IkH19455; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:18:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Problem with pager From: Ben FrantzDale To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> References: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 23:18:48 -0500 Message-Id: <985839528.5919.4.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200, Alessandro Coppelli wrote: > > Hi to all. > > I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) > > when start "startx" I obtain > ------ > Desk guide Alert > > Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not > running a gnome compliant window manager. > Gnome support by the window manager is strongly > recommended for proper desk guide operation . > > ------- > > I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. > > I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and > can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) > > Where is the problem ??? > > Alessandro It looks like you don't have a window manager running. As you may know, the X Windows system needs a program to do with Windows and MacOS do on their own--put a titlebar on windows. If you can, run gnomecc, go to the ``Window Manager'' section and select a window manager (such as Sawfish) then hit OK. All should be well... Out of curiosity, what does your /home/username/.xinitrc file say? --Ben From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 12:05:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 181BA2DC6C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from 63.193.165.34 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:05:12 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman , gnome Cc: , suse-list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to nautilus-list@eazel.com. John From jik@foxinternet.net Thu Mar 29 13:16:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AE82BAFB for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC37CAA.75678081@foxinternet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:19:22 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome on slack References: <20010329170517.4C81F2DC73@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > _-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: xiniman on slack > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > > From: cardie > > > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > > installer?. > > http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: Yeah, the polond site doesn't seem to respond....little too far away me thinks. In fact it never responded during this whole letter. > > The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken > directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those > as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. > Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant > "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". Well download.gnome.org looks exactly the same as the rest of the mirrors. We have some packages in stable and other packages in unstable. packages in unstable require packages in stable and some programs which are not even at this site. Since all distros have 1.2 afaik, and most of the packages being developed for gnome right now require bonobo....it is pretty pointless messing with stable. When I downloaded gnome from that section and took it home on CD I got there and found that I didn't have the "unstable gnome", I had a few semi-related unstable programs. Sometimes the configure file knew I had the wrong package....many times it didn't....there is no list of packages that these programs depend on (in README you can usually find the things you need to compile a program...not so with gnome programs).... Even after I downloaded ALL of stable and unstable I found I did not have all of gnome! I had to go hunt down other packages at redhat.com and freshmeat.....which is just rediculous for an integrated system. So these things need to happen 1. all files that are needed to set up gnome need to be in a single directory...one for stable the other for Beta or alpha. Sure there will be some redundancy, but so what....this makes your system easier to use. 2. All programs in gnome should specify in the README all of the other programs that need to be installed before it....this is common practice I don't know why gnome developers aren't doing it. 3. Why are there so many core components to gnome NOT in gnome-core???? When I install something that says *-core I expect that I have the base system installed, what is left are *optional*, it is that way with KDE, it is that way with gnustep....why is it not so with Gnome? > > > And > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html > contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs > on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of > Slackware was discussed. Yes, I saw that....in fact that will clarify my point....you have to go to a mail list to get directions to compile Gnome....even if you know what your doing. Gnome IS the hardest system I have ever seen to compile, there are so many standard things just not done here. That is why I said it appears it was done on purpose....thinking back to other difficult compiles (old Wine, DosEmu, XFree86 the first time) all of them had good documentation and directions for the compile and setup procedures.....even for alpha trees. Yeah, KDE sucks.....but I think Gnome could take some lessons from KDE when it come to source packaging! From jfonde@fr.inter.net Thu Mar 29 18:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from clever.visp-europe.psi.com (clever.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC62BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip56.velizy2.pub-ip.fr.psi.net ([154.15.21.56] helo=jfonde) by clever.visp-europe.psi.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ilWx-0004Gj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:08:39 +0200 From: Ondedieu JF Reply-To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Organization: Particulier To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Normal case icon names on desktop Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into Times-like NORMAL. Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. Could some body help me ?? Thanks -- --------------------------------------------------- JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU jfonde@fr.inter.net --------------------------------------------------- From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 18:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B912BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA22841; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts006d16.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.28]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA17967; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion here is the error completely hope you can help loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes checking if gcc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool loading cache ./config.cache checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes checking for orbit-config... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes checking for orbit-idl... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl Determining mount system properties: checking for setmntent... yes checking for endmntent... yes checking for mntent.h... yes checking for sys/mnttab.h... no checking for sys/vfstab.h... no checking for sys/cdio.h... no checking for /dev... yes checking for /vol/dev... no checking for /vol... no checking for /etc/mnttab... no checking for /proc/mounts... yes checking for /proc/1... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for unsetenv... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for asm/vm86.h... yes checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes checking for FT_Init_FreeType in -lfreetype... yes checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... yes checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no checking for xpcom... yes checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in -lgtksuperwin... no checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in -lgtkembedmoz... no checking for Mozilla... no checking for bzread in -lbz2... no checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gnome-config... /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes checking for additional GNOME modules... *** gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better is required. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > > > > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication > somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? > > Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to > nautilus-list@eazel.com. > > John > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 18:05:00 EST 2001 From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 19:19:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA5B82BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-63-193-165-34.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.193.165.34] by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:19:28 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman Cc: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in this line: > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library you're missing. John on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > here is the error completely hope you can > help > > > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for a BSD compatible install... > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for working aclocal... found > checking for working autoconf... found > checking for working automake... found > checking for working autoheader... found > checking for working makeinfo... found > checking whether to enable > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > no > checking host system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking build system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > (cached) yes > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > /usr/bin/nm -B > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking for object suffix... o > checking for executable suffix... no > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > -fPIC > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > -fno-exceptions ... yes > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > -static > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > yes > checking whether the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > libraries... yes > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > output... ok > checking how to hardcode library paths into > programs... immediate > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > option to reload object files... -r > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > Linux ld.so > checking if libtool supports shared > libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... > yes > checking whether to build static libraries... > no > checking for objdir... .libs > creating libtool > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > -E > checking for a BSD compatible install... > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for esd-config... > /usr/bin/esd-config > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > checking for orbit-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > checking for orbit-idl... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > Determining mount system properties: > > checking for setmntent... yes > checking for endmntent... yes > checking for mntent.h... yes > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > checking for /dev... yes > checking for /vol/dev... no > checking for /vol... no > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > checking for setenv... yes > checking for unsetenv... yes > checking for putenv... yes > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > -lfreetype... yes > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > yes > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > checking for xpcom... yes > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > -lgtksuperwin... no > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > -lgtkembedmoz... no > checking for Mozilla... no > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > checking for glib-config... > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gtk-config... > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gnome-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > John Sullivan wrote: > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > landie@concentric.net wrote: >> >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 >> what are they referring to? >>> >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed >>> >> >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > sounds like a miscommunication >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > 1.2.9? >> >> Also, you're more likely to get a > knowledgeable answer if you post to >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. >> >> John >> >> > From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 20:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC682BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA03830; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:22 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts007d20.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.80]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA29744; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does not find it On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in > this line: > > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library > you're missing. > > John > > on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > here is the error completely hope you can > > help > > > > > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for working aclocal... found > > checking for working autoconf... found > > checking for working automake... found > > checking for working autoheader... found > > checking for working makeinfo... found > > checking whether to enable > > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > > no > > checking host system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking build system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > > cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > (cached) yes > > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > > /usr/bin/nm -B > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking for object suffix... o > > checking for executable suffix... no > > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > > -fPIC > > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > > -fno-exceptions ... yes > > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > > -static > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > yes > > checking whether the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > > output... ok > > checking how to hardcode library paths into > > programs... immediate > > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > option to reload object files... -r > > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > > Linux ld.so > > checking if libtool supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking whether to build shared libraries... > > yes > > checking whether to build static libraries... > > no > > checking for objdir... .libs > > creating libtool > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > is a cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > > -E > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > > checking for esd-config... > > /usr/bin/esd-config > > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > > checking for orbit-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > > checking for orbit-idl... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > > > Determining mount system properties: > > > > checking for setmntent... yes > > checking for endmntent... yes > > checking for mntent.h... yes > > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > > checking for /dev... yes > > checking for /vol/dev... no > > checking for /vol... no > > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > > > > checking for setenv... yes > > checking for unsetenv... yes > > checking for putenv... yes > > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > > -lfreetype... yes > > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > > yes > > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > > checking for xpcom... yes > > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > > -lgtksuperwin... no > > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > > -lgtkembedmoz... no > > checking for Mozilla... no > > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > > checking for glib-config... > > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gtk-config... > > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gnome-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > > John Sullivan wrote: > > > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > > landie@concentric.net wrote: > >> > >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > >> what are they referring to? > >>> > >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > >>> > >> > >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > > sounds like a miscommunication > >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > > 1.2.9? > >> > >> Also, you're more likely to get a > > knowledgeable answer if you post to > >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > > > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 20:05:00 EST 2001 From mchamp@texas.net Thu Mar 29 20:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6C2E274 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net [209.99.92.152]) by mw3.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2U1Fei21645 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:15:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:28:36 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: How do I delete menu items? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in it. Thanks! Mike From michaelv@cox-internet.com Thu Mar 29 23:41:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B42BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.192.193]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010330044007.RNKL25449.io@cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:40:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop From: Michael Thomas To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.29.09.06 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:46:38 -0600 Message-Id: <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus prefrences. Hope this helps. On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > Times-like NORMAL. > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > Could some body help me ?? > > Thanks > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 08:46:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1C02BBE7 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-168.aculink.net [204.118.157.168]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UDkma07829 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id GAA24664 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301347.GAA24664@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Keeping Terminal Open Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is it possible to keep gnome-terminal open after it has automatically executed a program with --execute? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 11:07:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DABF2E01D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-133.aculink.net [204.118.157.133]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UG81a18676 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id JAA06936 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Blocking Access Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From olau@hardworking.dk Fri Mar 30 12:36:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4792BACE for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from 35.ppp1-1.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.35) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2UGBdB01281; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:11:39 +0200 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: nautilus References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> From: Ole Laursen Date: 30 Mar 2001 18:11:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Landy Roman's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does > not find it Do you have the gdk-pixbuf-devel package too? You probably need that to compile anything pixbuf related. BTW, please cut out some of the citation when you answer - duplicating the entire message is superfluous and it makes it harder to follow a thread (thus enlarging the risk that people will just ignore the message). -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 30 16:06:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zephyr.host4u.net (zephyr.host4u.net [216.71.64.66]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4331D2BB19 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by zephyr.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20706 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:03:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3AC4F3C7.6824B986@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:59:51 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: gnome core's References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i understand that gnome has some "issues" with core's........sometimes when I start into gnome desktop even not starting an app yet.....my HD spins out of controll...okay well you get idea :)...and sometimes doesn't stop for several minutes......this troubles me...why does it do this is there a probable cause or just something thats being addressed or my particular configuration since installing...... i heard on another list i think it was about this that someone else has this going on and wanted to ask if there was anything I could do for now to help minimize this waste of HD useage :).. thanks :) lee -=== From bob@thestuff.net Fri Mar 30 16:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ida.net (mail.ida.net [204.228.203.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674B12BCA5 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5of9.H.TheStuff.net) (208.141.171.197) by mail.ida.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Subject: Re: xiniman on slack From: Bob Smith To: Noah Roberts Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Mar 2001 15:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <985990383.22561.0.camel@5of9.H.TheStuff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, its posible that its due to the fact that since slack has no real package management system (no, tarballs arent packages), that slack users should be use to compileing. If they didnt like compileing, they wouldnt use slack. Probably the real reason is that it would take considerable extra time to make slack tarball packages because slack is so different from the other distros. RPM or DEB is very common amung all distro's. Slacks tgz's are not. On 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800, Noah Roberts wrote: > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > > From: cardie > > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... > > > Slackware also isn't > > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... > > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he > plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From dmcglone@ameritech.net Fri Mar 30 17:43:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0F2BAB6 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([64.108.99.60]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010330224350.EWKH7459.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@default>; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> From: "David M." To: , References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> Subject: Re: Blocking Access Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:42:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion don't give them the root password. David M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SoloCDM" To: "Gnome-List (Request)" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Blocking Access > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? > > Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing > list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. > > ********************************************************************* > Signed, > SoloCDM > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:54:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9DE2BA99 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V13gC31288; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:41 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commander code (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a constant defined as this: #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #else #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #endif Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc source hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting ? My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; But I could be wrong ... If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The color is customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Michael Thomas wrote: > If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled > by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the > theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop > "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus > prefrences. > > Hope this helps. > > On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > > Times-like NORMAL. > > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > > > Could some body help me ?? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC2DDF1 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V18sC31317; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52E25.99F32FB4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:53 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Champagne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How do I delete menu items? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Search in /usr/share/gnome/apps. Some are here. Some others seems to be dynamicaly rebuild at run time (the ones that are absolutly mandatory for panel to run ...??? ). Have a look in panel code to be sure. Michael Champagne wrote: > There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when > I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted > my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in > it. Thanks! > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From knghtbrd@galen.magenet.net Fri Mar 30 21:59:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from galen.magenet.net (63-224-228-227.customers.uswest.net [63.224.228.227]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47D2BC2D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by galen.magenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D9513F8; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 From: Joseph Carter To: Remi Cohen-Scali Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop Message-ID: <20010330185926.B3265@debian.org> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM>; from Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux galen 2.4.2-ac26 X-No-Junk-Mail: Spam will solicit a hostile reaction, at the very least. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200, Remi Cohen-Scali wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commande= r code > (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a consta= nt > defined as this: >=20 > #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*= ," \ > "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #else > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ > "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ > "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #endif >=20 > Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc sour= ce > hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting= ? > My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; > But I could be wrong ... > If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The = color is > customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Color's easy. Font is a source hack only. Further proof that gmc is evil beyond belief. --=20 Joseph Carter Free software developer "Yes, your honour, I have RSA encryption code tattood on my penis. Shall I show the jury?" --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: 1024D/DCF9DAB3 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 iEYEARECAAYFAjrFSA4ACgkQj/fXo9z52rMhrwCfdsmqmRV6+d8TF6b5TrRoCWVG dI0An1DXT92xcoP7VkQoiLW5QzgAuGwy =kr1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From deedsmis@aculink.net Sat Mar 31 12:58:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3344D2BCBC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-98.aculink.net [204.118.157.98]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2VHwfg07800; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from aculink.net (IDENT:redneck@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net [192.168.20.1]) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) with ESMTP id KAA12204; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:12 -0700 From: SoloCDM Reply-To: deedsmis@aculink.net, gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: "Gnome-List (Request)" Subject: Re: Blocking Access References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." stated the following: > > don't give them the root password. I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SoloCDM" > > > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From larry@marso.com Sat Mar 31 13:13:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from max.worldcontrol.com (unknown [206.112.124.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8295A2DC07 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17696 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2001 18:18:54 -0000 From: larry@marso.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:18:54 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: bonobo CORBA exception "COMM_FAILURE" nautilus Message-ID: <20010331101854.A17691@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Any suggestions on the following? Thanks. On a Redhat 7.0 system, if I run nautilus as root (horror!) it works great in web browsing mode. As user, I get the following failure in the console, and "Web Page can't continue" in a dialog box: Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on realize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on unrealize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' ** WARNING **: A view failed. The UI will handle this with a dialog but this should be debugged. . From famrom@idecnet.com Sat Mar 31 13:29:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (3-MADR-X24.libre.retevision.es [62.83.13.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBFF2BC43 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01521; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: deedsmis@aculink.net Subject: Re: Blocking Access Message-ID: <20010331202913.A1515@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org, deedsmis@aculink.net References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net>; from deedsmis@aculink.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:59:12AM -0700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion deedsmis@aculink.net (2001-03-31 at 1059.12 -0700): > > don't give them the root password. > I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. Two options: - change the binaries to be only executable by a group, and only put on it those people you want to allow. Radical and could derive in "GNOME sucks, the manual says this and it does not work" or worse. - teach your users not to fuck up things. They can only break their own items, normally people do not want that. And if they break it, they learn, it is like kids and painful things (with basic difference that IIRC GNOME is not lethal as a gas kitchen can be). I see few reasons for the radical approach. Even demo installs can avoid it with the advantage of begin full working demos, like removing config and creating a new one in each login. So I see zero reasons, ATM. I would like to know what really is so important to force things, which can create other problems (eye problems, ie) or unhappiness ("my boss is dictator", ie), vs freedom. Please share the reason. GSR From rodolfo.borges@mail.com Fri Mar 30 01:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from panther.unisys.com.br (panther.unisys.com.br [200.220.64.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6432BCA5; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.com ([146.164.9.150]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2U6mAv05377; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:48:11 -0300 (BDB) X-Spam-Filter: check_local@panther.unisys.com.br by digitalanswers.org Message-ID: <3AC42C9C.AF3ABFD7@mail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:04 -0300 From: rodolfo.borges@mail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, sawmill@aarg.net, gnome-gui-list@gnome.org Subject: integrating cmdline and gui Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion An idea for gnome panel: (or any gui that have buttons/menus to run programs) The problem is that we don't see the stdout/stderr of the X programs. Of course we could run them from a command line, but we don't know a priori when we will like to see the output, and it would be a total mess to have one xterm for every X process. :) The solution is the launcher (the panel, or file manager, whatever) to redirect the stderr to a temp file like /tmp/xproc/.stderr An applet could give the user easy access to this information. Another cool feature: filters. The launchers could have an additional properties page called "output log" with: - A check button to save the log - Another check button to apply the list of filters - A list of filters (with new/edit/del buttons) Each filter have a regular expression (or just a simple string and 'case' checkbox) and action(s) to be performed on a hit: beep, display a msgbox, whatever. -- Rodolfo.Borges@mail.com From mike@cyborg-group.com Thu Mar 29 07:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5572BBE4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14iZfN-00021Z-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:33 +0100 Subject: gnome ftp server- seriously hacking me off From: mike To: Sarah Mount Cc: David A Knight , Gnome General Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 13:10:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Can someone please explain WHY the ftp server insists that your email and IP address match When you are behind a firewall they dont for obvious reasons This is NOT a problem with any other ftp server I am aware of From fabiofb@facilit.com.br Thu Mar 29 01:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from servidor_ecos.xpti (facilit.com.br [200.249.140.26]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5052E135 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by servidor-ecos.xpti with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: Fabio Gomes To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RES: Where are my Icons ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 1. Right click the panel 2. Click: Add to panel -> applets -> utilities -> task list []s Fabio Gomes de Souza Facilit Tecnologia fabiofb@facilit.com.br > -----Mensagem original----- > De: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]Em > nome de Chuck > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 29 de marco de 2001 02:42 > Para: gnome-list@gnome.org > Assunto: Where are my Icons ? > > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to > get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From foobar@clara.co.uk Wed Mar 28 06:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea (gaea.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77E2CEDC for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from claranet by gaea with local (Exim 3.11 #1) id 14iDx9-000OQa-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Reply-To: list-01@foobar.clara.co.uk Subject: Missing applets and icons are black (Debian 2.2 / X 4.0.2) Cc: X-Remote_Addr: 62.136.246.89 Message-Id: From: Bernard Boudet Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I think my installation is botched, but I can't figure out what is wrong except that paths seem to be screwed up somehow. This is Debian 2.2 stable with 2.2.17 kernel, and X v4.0.2 compiled from source. Sorry, I don't know how to tell what revision of GNOME, but I downloaded and installed it yesterday using `lynx -source http://go- gnome.com/ | sh', and I chose the full-install option. The same problems were also happening with GNOME installed from Debian 2.2, which is why I upgraded. The GNOME desktop fires up with GNU Midnight Commander ok, but " Commands | Edit mime types..." does nothing. The Gnome Help Browser also starts up, but says "Could not load default TOC page". The main panel at the bottom of the screen, only shows 3 buttons - Menu, Log out and Lock screen. These are all white text on a black background. There is nothing else on the main panel. Clicking Menu pops up a menu with Programs, Favorites, Applets, Debian menus, Run..., Panel, and Log out. The Applets item has no submenus. At the top of the screen there is a bar with Programs, Favorites, Settings and Desktop. The Applets item under Programs has no submenu, and clicking it does nothing. The Settings menu is empty. Clicking "Programs | Debian menus | Apps | System | Gnome Control Center" does nothing. Running gnomecc from the command line gives this error: ~$ gnomecc ** WARNING **: No configuration applets were found. This probably means that either the control-center or GNOME is incorrectly installed. ~$ locate applet | wc --lines 1120 I've tried `rm -rf ~/.gnome*' but this does not help. I have the files .xinitrc and .xsession in my home directory: #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xinitrc # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xsession # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session The problems are the same, whether starting my session with startx or from gdm. Before uprading GNOME, I used xdm and the problem happened with that too. I have set the Debian default window manager to Enlightenment, but but X session runs as Sawfish (this is only a minor annoyance, I know I could fix it with gnomecc if it would run). ~$ /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/enlightenment /usr/bin/enlightenment - priority 50 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/enlightenment.1.gz /usr/bin/sawfish - priority 20 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/enlightenment. Please ask for specific info if I missed something, but otherwise - Help! From Michael.Garza@getronics.com Wed Mar 28 05:15:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from res02wnt246.corp.wang.com (fwus1.us.getronics.com [192.84.63.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528E2E034 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by res02wnt246.corp.wang.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garza, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Gnome through x windows? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I'm relatively new to Unix, and I need some help before I start on this task.. I would like to know if Gnome can be pulled up through an x server for Windows such as Exceed? I have a Sun Netra X1 at home with no framebuffer and I'd like to have an x desktop pulled up. We use HPOV pulled through Exceed at work, and I know this is possible with plain x windows, but I'm not sure if Gnome will work. Also any help with getting a regular x desktop pulled up would be greatly appreciated. Michael Garza Network Analyst Getronics ICTC From RiNilsson@keyww.com Tue Mar 27 10:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gossip.keyww.com (exchange-key.bmi.net [207.173.63.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A722D629 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by Gossip with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:35:11 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Nilsson, Rik" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Invisible panel on LinuxPPC Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For whatever reason, my user-account initial panel in LinuxPPC has become invisible. The user has a background jpg displayed and is using WindowMaker. The panel config includes the defaults plus modem-lites and some application launchers. At each login I am alerted that "...a panel is already running, do you wish to start another?" I have to reply "Yes" and then I get a right-edge vertical panel duplicating the customized configuration. The original panel never becomes visible. For this session then, the panel functions normally. I've seen answers to other posts saying to delete .gnome directories. No matter how many times I remove all the user's Gnome "."-directories it always does this on subsequent logins to this user account. If I terminate the panel job with "kill -9 id", the panel restarts but is still not visible. Typing "panel" at the prompt of course, always results in the above alert that there is already... My root account and another "guest" account do not exhibit this behavior, so I am inclined to think the main Gnome program is not dysfunctional, that the problem is in the user directory. Before I remove and re-create the entire user directory, I thought I'd ask if there is something I am overlooking. Rik From mike@cyborg-group.com Mon Mar 26 07:26:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D282DBCA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14hUYz-0006zE-00 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:49:29 +0100 Subject: ftp server access From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102271933.UAA11952@email.enst.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 13:31:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ther last time I tried to accessthe gnome ftp server I was refused access. It stated that my IP address and my e-mail address did not match so refused connection I am on an ADSL link with a an e-mail address off hosted web space so obviously my e-mail address will not match. Is there any way round this From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0852CF1B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9ZuW03130; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:20:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ADE2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nfS03175; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From dmcglone@ameritech.net Wed Feb 28 21:12:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DB2CF0A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net ([64.108.97.88]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010301021159.THVD1581.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@mailhost.col.ameritech.net> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:11:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:10:49 -0500 From: David McGlone To: Gnome Message-ID: <20010228211049.A2535@buddy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 594 Lines: 19 Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello everyone, I downloaded the C/C++ compiler and I need to know what the include path is, and the library path for the compiler to be able to compile. I belive the library files would be /usr/lib, and the include would be /usr/include. I am programming in C++ using GCC on RH 7. can anyone help me out here? TIA -- =================================================================== David M. ICQ: 96210352 AIM: dmcg295308 ==================================================================== /usr/games/fortune: The way some people find fault, you'd think there is some kind of reward From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Wed Feb 28 22:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994962BB01 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (tot-tl.proxy.aol.com [152.163.207.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA03885 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9F82B9.ipt.aol.com [172.159.130.185]) by tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f213DPE08395 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9DBC27.6060400@seznam.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:04:07 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list Subject: gnome-utils-1.3.1 undeclared variable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
I'm trying to make  gnome-utils-1.3.1  under  debian linux potato 2.2rev2.
Compiler reports undeclared variable "PIXEL_SIZE_STANDARD"  in "gdictsrc/gdict-applet.c" .
Do you have any suggestions where the variable should be declared?  It is used only once in whole gdict utility.
Thanks for any help   -SCUD
P.S. I have found no bug reports!???
From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:37:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FCA2E32D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:37:43 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B6B7BF0:01C0A209] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it throws this error: gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! A downloaded file could not be unzipped. If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 01:29:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982352BC8C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:29:24 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: jacksondorado@hotmail.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 06:29:24.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[F58C95C0:01C0A218] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I got the helix-installer to run but then the install crashed with these errors: Installer extracted into/var/cache/helix-install/installer. Running with arguments: Distribution: Red Hat Linux 6.2 ## gtkhtml-WARNING **: Couldn't find keybinding file -- /gnome/share/gtkhtml/keybin dingsrc.emacs ** WARNING **: Fatal transfer error: Transfer failed: Data connection: Bad file descriptor. gnome_segv: error in loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: NO such file or directory ==>Cleaning up temporary files...done. ## I have tried to install GNOME from the 6.2 CD but always got errors that many, many '.so' files were missing. I thought installing over the internet would be different :( thanks for any help. >From: "jackson dorado" >To: gnome-list@gnome.org >Subject: installer error >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 > >Hi, > >I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red >Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it >throws this error: > >gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! >A downloaded file could not be unzipped. > > >If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. > >thanks. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >gnome-list mailing list >gnome-list@gnome.org >http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Thu Mar 1 08:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766272BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust212.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.212]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12818 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:49:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A9E5744.EAD43F5F@linuxfreak.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:56 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME and BIOS problems References: <200102221853.f1MIru601731@aarongraham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Aaron Graham wrote: > > Whenever I tweak a BIOS setting, GNOME reverts to some set of default > settings, and I can't change certain attributes in the Control Center. > For instance, I can't switch to certain Sawfish window manager themes, > such as Gleam and CoolClean (although I can switch to microGUI and > gtk), my panel pager applet suddenly switches back to 1 workspace, and > I can't save session settings. This happens every time I tweak the > BIOS. > > Yesterday everything spontaneously began to work again, but then I had > to change another bios setting this morning (I just got a new memory > module). > > I have a TYAN Trinity 400 motherboard and Kingston 256MB mem module, > along with a 933 MHz pentium III, all designed for a 133 MHz memory > bus speed. > > Any experts out there? > Thanks, > Aaron It's March 1st. Not April 1st. From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:09:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B22E63C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14YVrq-000869-00; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Subject: Re: tasklist applet crashes with BadDrawable From: jacob berkman To: stas.orel@mailcity.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102280008.f1S08w927897@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Feb 2001 00:17:48 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote: > tasklist applet crashes in function tasklist_icon_check_x() when calling > gdk_image_get() (tasklist_icon.c:279). The error message is: > Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) > serial 2081 error_code 9 request_code 63 minor_code 0. which version of the tasklist are you running? you can get this from the about box of the tasklist. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From fejj@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E92E73C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.prv ([141.154.95.3]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01569; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:43:37 -0500 Subject: Re: cronosII mail client for Gnome From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Jeffry Smith Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <01022622412700.05334@buddy> <20010227004255.A3977@flux> <20010227000347.A82783@superhero.org> <20010227112146.500D996D98@sender.ngi.de> <983301480.9193.3.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983465127.24220.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Feb 2001 17:17:57 -0500, Jeffry Smith wrote: > A few questions: > Jeffrey Stedfast said: > > Actually, Evolution *is* a collection of smaller applications working > > together. ;-) > > > > The Evolution Addressbook will be replacing the GNOME Addressbook and > > the Evolution Calendar will be replacing the GNOME Calendar. > > Will they run without the Evolution shell (i.e. as stand-alone apps linke > Gnome Addressbook & Gnome Calendar)? no, they need to be embedded. You could probably write a simple shell to embed the calendar or the addressbook to make it "standalone" though. > > > > > Evolution itself is just a shell that embeds the addressbook, the > > calendar, and the mailer and allows them to share information much > > better than any other set of similar applications can. > > Also, will the mail client run stand-alone? And does it support mh style mail > folders? same as above. Yes, it supports MH style mailboxes. Jeff From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Thu Mar 1 12:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3D2E5A1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148B17A91; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from stud.ntnu.no (dusken4.samfundet.no [129.241.93.42]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E517A1E; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3A9E89E0.9030707@stud.ntnu.no> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Wigtil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010219 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chadoliver14@netscape.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: C++ Language Binding References: <44C6AFA5.29C0E462.6AED4586@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion chadoliver14@netscape.net wrote: > I'm trying to learn more about using C++ to develop GNOME applications. I noticed gtk-- and Inti::Gtk both had nice features. I'm wondering if there is a C++ binding which is emerging from the crowd and has more support from the GNOME community? Gtk-- (and Gnome--) will be included with Gnome 1.4, and as such be the "official" binding. Inti will be a framework for C++ on Linux (much broader scope than Gtk--, and maybe Linux only), but it is still in development. I'd go for Gtk-- if I were you. -- Hĺvard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrapé un Fraggle! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 1 14:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3A2DBB8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f21JL2j08931 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel Message-ID: <20010301192101.A8842@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil>; from jthill@microlink.net on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 or thereabouts, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by using > the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed to delete the > gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the screen that has the > Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope this > does not involve a reinstall of gnome. Laugh, no. :) Right-click on the menu panel (the one you have at the top) and select panel->create panel->edge panel (or whatever type you prefer). You may have to add individual applets and launchers back onto it. I'm not sure. If you ever get to the stage where you delete -all- your panels, btw (and you really have to try hard to achieve this), you can restart by typing "panel" into a terminal. It will come back happily. Telsa From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 16:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43E42BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7124 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13085 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21LYI121232 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from the .gnome.old to the new .gnome For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't forget to verify the ownership/perms.) HTH Barthel P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . . Yay!) -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From murphy@erim-int.com Thu Mar 1 16:58:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csd10g.erim-int.com (csd10g.erim-int.com [155.102.129.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2BD2DEDC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from erim-int.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by csd10g.erim-int.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:51:14 -0500 From: Sean Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel References: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. All you really need to do is log in as root, open a terminal window, type "panel &" (without the quotes) and then choose to save your session when you logout. That will cause gnome to remember that user root wants a panel running and will put when up each time you log in as root. As usual, you should try to avoid logging in as root as much as possible. You could always log in as yourself, then 'su' to root, or use something like sudo to give yourself root power only when needed. Logging in as root is usually equivalent to using a chainsaw as a can opener. Sure it might work Ok, but when something goes wrong, it goes REALLY wrong! "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > > and desk guide)). > > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. > > The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename > ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the > default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from > the .gnome.old to the new .gnome > > For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user > panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't > forget to verify the ownership/perms.) > > HTH > > Barthel > > P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if > something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar > my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on > this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . > . Yay!) > -- > ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 > Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! > > Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 17:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F30D2BA83 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4010 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26705 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21MUD121997; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012230.f21MUD121997@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list Cc: murphy@erim-int.com In-Reply-To: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 1 Mar, Sean Murphy wrote: > Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting > you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. Who said "DELETE"???? Not I. I said "RENAME"--which preserves those mods, ready for restoration. BTW--My advice, works for restoring the DEFAULT SETUP for *any* user. I just phrased my response for the specifics of the case--and chose to only respond to the question asked. (I'm a sudo'er, myself, Slacker that I am.) I really didn't want to start the "logging in as root is unwise" vs. "I *do* know what I'm doing and I want to login as root" thread again. > "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: >> The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename >> ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the >> default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from >> the .gnome.old to the new .gnome >> >> For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user >> panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't >> forget to verify the ownership/perms.) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From federico@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 19:20:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4A2DDF7; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08505; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Message-Id: <200103020031.SAA08505@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-1.4-list@gnome.org Subject: gdk-pixbuf 0.10.0 is released X-JWZ: To a database person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or something like that. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of hot entomological squishing action, Version 0.10.0 of the gdk-pixbuf library, code named "dance the ghost with me", has been released. This release includes a number of important bug fixes. * Availability ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz * Changes in this release: - New XBM file loader (John). - We now have our own poor man's implementation of XParseColor() so that the XPM loader can work for both GdK and Xlib (John). - Completely re-written PNM loader (Jeff, Pavel, Frédéric). - Memory leak fixes for the PNG loader (Iain). - Fixes to gdk-pixbuf.m4 (Mathieu). - Updates for the new gdk_image_get() API return value (Ramiro). - Offset computation fixes for the compositing functions (Larry, Mitsuru, Helmethead, Federico). - Compositing fixes for greater accuracy (Federico). - Fixed the GDK_PIXBUF_LIBS output so that image libraries are not linked with programs that use gdk-pixbuf (Miguel). Love, Federico From jh0u@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f187.hotmail.com [216.32.181.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CC2BB19 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:20:00 -0800 Received: from 209.179.211.226 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:19:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.211.226] From: "JJ D." To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: wt@!#$%!!! helix-code/gnome installation Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:19:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 01:20:00.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6721E40:01C0A2B6] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't seem to install helix-gnome/code or whatever... I am using debian sid and everytime I use apt-get install task-helix-gnome it complains that it's broken since it can't install gnome-games..so I installed gnome-games..but helix-gnome still doesn't want to install..tried to install red-carpet still the same issues..broken packages..what gives? I tried both ximian and helixcode sites in my /apt/sources.list with exactly the same result.. nothing..I know that gnome1.4beta will be out soon so is this the reason nothing's working anymore until gnome1.4 officially launches? the gnome-site doesn't seem to help...not unless you are living in an alternate timeline whose year is still 1999. consequently, ximian's website gives no peep/news that there is some problems.. or is it just me? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lowlifeboy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:28:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f171.hotmail.com [216.32.181.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99702CFED for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:28:40 -0800 Received: from 208.63.246.199 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.63.246.199] From: "Low Lifeboy" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse clicks and actions Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:28:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E9C7FE0:01C0A2C0] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to figure out. Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on it and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title bar or the borders for the window to come up to focus. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 1 22:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A413C2BD8A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2234nh12078; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:07:06 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Low Lifeboy Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mouse clicks and actions Message-ID: <20010301220706.A29088@sean.aweplay> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from lowlifeboy@hotmail.com on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 21:28:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Go into the control panel, select Sawfish properties -> Focus Behaviour, then turn on the 'Raise when Focused' option. That'll get you set up. I'd also browse thru the other features, and get everything tweaked just the way you like it. On 2001.03.01 21:28:40 -0500 Low Lifeboy wrote: > Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to > > figure out. > Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on > it > and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title > bar > or the borders for the window to come up to focus. > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thank you. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From cleek@csc.smsu.edu Fri Mar 2 03:40:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csc.smsu.edu (csc.smsu.edu [146.7.45.212]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542582BF9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cleek@localhost) by csc.smsu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f228eWi39128 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cleek@csc.smsu.edu) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:32 -0600 (CST) From: Billie Cleek To: Subject: Helix Audio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion A while back I was corresponding with someone that was having problems with their sounds in gnome, but I've lost his e-mail address. If you're listening: I think I've come across the solution to your problem. Cleek From tshanno@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Mar 2 08:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org [147.126.239.203]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231BB2BCF7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mc101-151.card.luhs.org (mc101-151.card.luhs.org [147.126.101.151]) by luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26914 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:50:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:13:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas R. Shannon" X-Sender: To: Subject: Evolution and Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm a pretty dedicated pine user but I'm starting to get curious about Evolution. In the last preview release I downloaded, it wasn't immediately evident how to get it to work best with pine. For instance, Evolution seems to want mail folders in separate directories. Pine wants them all collected in ~/Mail or ~/mail. Is there a way to get Evolution to accept all of the mail folders in one directory? Is there a way to import pine addresses? Does anyone know if this stuff is planned? Thanks, Tom ================ Quote of the day for February 28th, 2001 Authority without wisdom is like a heavy ax without an edge, fitter to bruise than polish. - Anne Bradstreet From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 2 09:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52832E721 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA18549 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:12:23 -0800 Message-Id: <200103021412.GAA18549@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:12:37 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Does anyone know how to change the background color of the contacts list in evolution. I don't like bright colors and the white background is blinding with my dark color scheme. Chazz From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 2 12:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF82DBA1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f22HguE01292; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9FDBA0.E6533BB1@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list , "redhat-list@redhat.com" Subject: [Fwd: Re: no gui [#28630301]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is a GUI for Producer 8.5 on Windows. They haven't taken that away. But they found most Linux users don't want or need a GUI. -------------- this is what I got from real folks..i asked why all of a sudden no GUI for realproducer.. well linux users is this true? :)LOL granted there is as certain geekage percentage myself sometimes included that "enjoys" the command line.....but......for something that tends to be somewhat complicated a gui is certainly a nice alternative.......how many use this product i wonder..... just wondering lee From lauris@ximian.com Fri Mar 2 15:12:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D002E7EA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl1100.estpak.ee [213.168.29.81]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19055; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:13:49 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200103022013.WAA19055@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: 0.26.pre breaks old apps From: Lauris Kaplinski To: gnome-print@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8 - Preview Release) Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:13:02 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I just discovered that installation from gnome-print-0.26.pre tarball breaks old applications. More specifically it overwrites ${prefix}/share/fontmap file with new version, that older gnome-prints <=0.25 are not able to understand. So applications compiled with previous gnome-print versions will most probably die, complaining of missing default font. This shouldn't create problems, if you upgrade all gnome to 1.4-beta2, but can cause problems for aprtial upgrades. This is fixed in stable CVS branch gnome-1-4-branch and will be fixed in next release by renaming the main file to fontmap2. Meanwhile you can get around that problem, by: Creating copy of your fontmap before installation and replacing the new one with the old. The new gnome-print can read old fontmap. If your fontmap is gnome, grab a tarball of gnome-print-0.25, compile it, and run font installation script (you do not have to re-install the old gnome-print). perl run-gnome-font-install gnome-font-install ${datadir} ${srcdir} datadir is /usr/share for redhat-like systems, srcdir is the topmost source directory. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Sat Mar 3 03:15:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E62BCC8 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23578; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> To: David Hampton Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:00 PST." <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com>, David Hampton writes: >I'm trying to run an application that fails with the message: > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication >protocols > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. >Stepping through the application with gdb shows that this error message >comes from the routine gnome_init_with_popt_tale. I've occasionally >seen this message from other progrms too. What causes this error and >how can I fix it. Thanks. Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? cp ~/.Xauthority ~ John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From root@gruyere.ath.cx Sat Mar 3 05:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2FF2BAB1 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f23Acbg11871; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103031038.f23Acbg11871@gruyere.ath.cx> To: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Cc: David Hampton , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-Reply-To: Message from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 EST." <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John wrote : > cp ~/.Xauthority ~ Ach.. Does nobody know how to share a Magic Cookie ? So let me teach it to you so.. user@localhost > touch ~/.rhosts && echo "$HOST root" >> ~/.rhosts root@localhost # xauth extract - $HOST:0 | rsh $HOST -l user xauth merge - if $HOST:0 is not your display but :0 is, then change it in the last line.. You could just put it in the /root/.login file (or whatever your have..) to do it automagically when you do "su -" I think this is very useful when you are, for example, in a university and you work with another guy.. Or when you have different account on different box with different ~. Dams -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From jmwhite@mail.hot1.net Sat Mar 3 17:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.hot1.net (mail.hot1.net [12.5.166.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557902BC79 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (64-217-53-85.ded.swbell.net [64.217.53.85]) by newman.hot1.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f23MY8a75132 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:34:09 -0600 (CST) From: Mike White Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:36:09 GMT Message-ID: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Subject: no gnome To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After=20 hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds an= d=20 crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per= =20 the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I=20 decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order=20 that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and = the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no = Gnome in the session drop down list. Anyone know how I can get it back? From mjbjr@beaudesign.com Sat Mar 3 17:46:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (dsl-64-32-0-230.hwrp.loop.net [64.32.0.230]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76122BD0E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mjbjr@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00781 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: mjbjr owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: mjbjr@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: command line reset? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how would I do that? Thank you. - Martin J. Brown, Jr. - - mjbjr@beaudesign.com - PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91102BDAD for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NR5Y21307 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no gnome Message-ID: <20010303232705.C20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain>; from jmwhite@mail.hot1.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 or thereabouts, Mike White wrote: > I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After > hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds and > crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per > the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I > decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order > that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and > the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no > Gnome in the session drop down list. > > Anyone know how I can get it back? You don't say what distribution you are using, but "no Gnome in the drop-down list for gdm" sounds like Mandrake. Suggestions on support@ximian.com and IRC list were to try one of these: (a) as root, chmod 755 /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Gnome (b) grab the updated gdm package for Mandrake at http://primates.ximian.com/~peter/gdm-2.0beta4-22mdk_helix_10.i586.rpm and install it. If it's not Mandrake, however, I suspect these won't work :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:39:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138732DC67 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NgpS21330 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjbjr@beaudesign.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 or thereabouts, mjbjr@beaudesign.com wrote: > I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several > gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the > pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing > everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how > would I do that? You would run 'top' and look for what is eating the CPU and so on. (Be careful assessing what's using the memory: you have to subtract the amount listed in 'share' to get an accurate assessment.) Then hit 'k' and type in the process number for it. k is kill Do not believe anyone who tells you it stands for 'keep running' and is thus harmless :) If you run top as root, you can kill practically anything. There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Shoot them one by one and wait and see whether X, and thus Gnome wakes up. Obviously, you don't want to shoot X or gnome-session itself, unless you've run out of other things to kill :) panel, gnome-terminal, xmms, netscape (_particularly_ netscape :)), gmc, big word processors and anything saying "_applet" are all candidates for this pruning. Anything ending in 'd' is likely to be a daemon. Don't go randomly killing daemons off if you're not sure what they are. There are some which are not supposed to be killable, but do you want to be the one to discover they are? A similar example is the font server, xfs. I wouldn't kill that unless I was really desperate and about to hit control-alt-delete anyway, either. To get out of 'top', hit 'q' for 'quit' (and it's 'h' for help). There is a much nicer graphical version, gtop, but if X has locked up, it's not going to help :) Telsa From keichwa@gmx.net Sun Mar 4 01:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from myway.myway.de (unknown [212.204.66.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8E72D252 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4087.nefkom.de [212.114.164.87]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15055; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:38:16 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 0CD55A5A03; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:37:49 +0100 (CET) To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> From: Karl Eichwalder Date: 04 Mar 2001 07:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Telsa Gwynne writes: > If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to > start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's > any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk > to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, > will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Yes, that's a nice feature. I just managed to iconify the menu panel and neither the foot panel nor sawfish controlled menus allowed me to deiconify it (it's cleverly hidden ;) ). Killing the panel revived the menu panel again. Wondering whether there's a more user friendly way? Maybe, this qualifies as a gnome-core bug? -- work : ke@suse.de | ,__o : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | _-\_<, home : keichwa@gmx.net | (*)/'(*) From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 06:19:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824C32D026 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZWXb-0001rL-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:08 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24BJ6W34244 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:06 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Barnfather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk paul.barnfather@vatechuk.com | | __ http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk . | o--o-... 75TS o'~o... 750SS From francesc@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk Sun Mar 4 08:14:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC642DE1E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-276.hodad.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.161.20] helo=vilarino.fsnet.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14ZYKv-00043F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:25 +0000 From: Francesc Vilarino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem to login Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am quite new in all this Linux stuff, and I hope you can give me a clue on how to solve this problem I have. I am using Suse Linux 7.0, and a few days ago I downloaded the latest Gnome from the Helix site. The problem I have (and that I already had with my previous version of Gnome) is that, when I start up my PC, I need to log in twice (I go directly to init level 3 at boot time). The first time I enter my login and password I see very briefly the screen with all the boot up information, and I suddenly go back to the login screen. After entering my login and password a second time everything's ok. Has anyone already experienced this problem? If so, please let me know how to solve it. Thanks in advance to you all. Regards, Francesc From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 4 09:44:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC52D436 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24EiHS20892 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gnome Version Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is installed on a box? For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. Thanks Sean From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 4 10:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (93-MADR-X55.libre.retevision.es [62.83.16.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6722BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01090 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:42:51PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). GSR From jeff@tick.tcsn.net Thu Mar 1 18:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from thoth.trefftzs.org (ppp160-pm-p5.tcsn.net [207.114.143.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F12E407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from outmail.tcsn.net (jeff@localhost) by thoth.trefftzs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03215 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 Message-Id: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> X-Authentication-Warning: thoth.trefftzs.org: jeff owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-list Subject: Galeon Mailing List? Reply-To: Jeff Trefftzs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 From: Jeff Trefftzs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. -- --Jeff Jeff Trefftzs http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery From mcompengr@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 00:52:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B22BA9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-209.245.7.181.Denver1.Level3.net [209.245.7.181]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11373 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: mcompengr@earthlink.net Message-ID: <3A9F34FF.31AC06CE@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:51:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: titeInhibit ignored by gnome-terminal ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, There's nothing worse than problem terminal settings. I shy away from X resourse solutions (in general too) because the final value accepted is in the executable, and can not be overidden, if set there. My approach is in the stty/tset and /etc/termcap area. The latter is the easiest for me. In an emergency I setenv TERM to a non-existant value which hopefuly causes a fallback to some default. If you look in /etc/termcap you should see strings beginning in column one that are followed by a |. These are the available values for the TERM env. Following the name is a bunch of parameter/setting pairs. The parameter name begins with a :. Now, the :te parameter is the one we DON'T want, in order to inhibit that flipping. You can have your gnome-terminal invoked with the --login flag, and then put setenv TERM in your .login file. Or, type setenv TERM as the first command. This is for csh/bash/tcsh etc. Korn syntax differs (no setenv). ---David > I have XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true > > in my .Xdefaults. Nonetheless, while xterm pays attention to this, > gnome-terminal doesn't. (I'm using gnome-terminal 1.1.5.) > > (Background FYI: titeInhibit controls whether apps such as less, more, > vi, mutt, and so forth that ask to use the xterm's alternate screen > actually flip to that screen or not. More practically, this means it > controls whether quitting vi, less, etc. leaves you looking at what > you were looking at a moment ago or what you were looking at before > you started that app. > > Tia for any pointers. > > -- > Jeff Abrahamson > 610/270-4845 > abrahj01@molbio.sbphrd.com > > (home email is jeff_abrahamson@purple.com) > From mvdwege@wanadoo.nl Sun Mar 4 02:28:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 669922BD0E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28401 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.244) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from drebbelstraat20 ([127.0.0.1]) by drebbelstraat20 with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZSvz-0002yw-00 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:28:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:27:59 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: gdm locks up my keyboard? Message-Id: <20010304082759.24c182c3.mvdwege@wanadoo.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Folks, I recently updated my sources.list to Ximian Gnome 1.4beta. After upgrading my system shows some weird behaviour at login: when I attempt to login using gdm straight after a reboot, my keyboard is *totally* dead. I mean totally, I can't switch to a virtual terminal, I can't kill X, and I can't do a Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. Thankfully I can reboot the system from gdm. The only way to avoid this is to to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 just while gdm comes up during boot, login at the console, disable gdm and start it again. It continues functioning normally from that point, so it is only a minor irrtation (as I don't reboot often), but I still wonder: is this a bug in gdm or do I have something misconfigured? BTW minor detail: gdm starts first on console #2, upon restart it runs on console #7. Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Distribution Version: testing/unstable Operating System Release: 2.2.18 Mart -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sun Mar 4 11:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24D2D185 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24GFRh26653; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:17:55 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Hartnett Cc: "gnome-list @ gnome . org" Subject: Re: Gnome Version Message-ID: <20010304111755.C23402@sean.aweplay> References: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net>; from tardis@mediaone.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:44:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'd say that'd be difficult, since you could, for example, any upgrade certain parts of GNOME to 1.4 beta - for example, I'm mostly running beta1, with a couple packages from beta2 installed. Your best bet is to look at all the packages for gnome installed (most,but not all, of which have 'gnome' in their name - so on an RPM system, rpm -qa | grep gnome would give you a list, with package versions). You could compare this to a list of beta packages, and see what is beta, and what is not. On 2001.03.04 09:44:13 -0500 Hartnett wrote: > >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the > GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is > installed on a box? > > For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see > somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. > > > Thanks > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877C2BC87 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24GxEF16053; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:59:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103041659.f24GxEF16053@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Galeon Mailing List? From: Stephen "M." Williams To: Jeff Trefftzs Cc: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:58:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, The Galeon mailing list can be found @: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galeon-user I've been running Galeon here with little to no problems at all for a while. Shoot me an e-mail and maybe I can help. Steve On 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week > or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I > dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost > unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my > complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the > proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) > > Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me > what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so > unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my > galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page > outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the > referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 > Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . > attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my > pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) > > Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join > it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. > > > -- > --Jeff > Jeff Trefftzs > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery > http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 12:23:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2456F2BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA30826; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:22:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:23:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1D72DEB8 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA31062; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041804.NAA31062@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:05:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Also, I just realized who you were, Paul (your e-mail sounded familiar) -- I have been referring to your website to get gnome compiled on solaris 2.6 (in a non-root account) for the last year or so. It's a great guide for those who want to get gnome compiled on solaris, take a look: http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/index.html -Troy I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From pnelson@neatech.com Sun Mar 4 15:35:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from washington.neatech.com (unknown [207.93.69.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF92D2E2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by WASHINGTON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> From: Patrick Nelson To: "Gnome-List (E-mail)" Subject: Whats all in RC? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From plazma803@home.com Sun Mar 4 16:15:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493292CE31 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com ([65.1.52.32]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304211531.PPTS21905.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:15:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? From: Josh McGee To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List "(E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:14:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983740467.24996.0.camel@cc342141-b.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Red-carpet is an package update tool that replaces ximians(aka:helix-code) update tool On 04 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800, Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From michaelv@cox-internet.com Sun Mar 4 17:08:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from europa.cox-internet.com (europa-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D742DF21 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:07:14 -0600 Subject: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:12:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. Thanks in advance. From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 22:54:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512A2BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA147020; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial099.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.99]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA71010; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:44 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? Message-ID: <20010304225444.A764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON>; from pnelson@neatech.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 15:35:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It depends. It only works with Debian and Red Hat at this point. It updated smoothly for my recently installed RH 6.2 system. Others have had problems. Read about it here: http://www.ximian.com/apps/redcarpet.php3 Ask more questions and check out the message archives here: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/red-carpet Brett On 2001.03.04 15:35 Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release > or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 23:11:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC92BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (garnet2-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.2]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA84998; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:17 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial676.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.35.66]) by garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30022; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 Message-ID: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; from michaelv@cox-internet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:12:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 37 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What Lycos found: 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > Thanks in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- From root@gruyere.ath.cx Mon Mar 5 01:20:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D02D371 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f256Lif30276; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200103050621.f256Lif30276@gruyere.ath.cx> To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Brett Castleberry of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 EST." <20010304231049.C764@monachos> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion As far as i can remember there was a .spec file in the gdk-pixbuf tar.gz (or at least a spec.in file..) So.. let's build yourself your own rpm package. if a spec file is present then "rpm --tb gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz" will build 2 i386.rpm (gdk-pixbuf & devel) if a spec.in file is present then tar zxvf the archive, ./configure will build the spec file from spec.in file. Copy the tar.gz in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES and rpm -ba will build .src.rpm and .i386.rpm packages (-bb if you just want i386) for the rest.. "man rpm" Dams bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu wrote : > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From michael.boeni@artificial-life.com Mon Mar 5 06:14:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from srvzhex1.artificial-life.com (unknown [212.243.161.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F002E04E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by SRVZHEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: <0FA6AB953DC0D311A07B00508BAE1B01560645@SRVZHEX1> From: "Boeni, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Keyboard swiss-german Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all I use Gnome (Ximian) on my Thinkpad. I would like to use the swiss-german keyboard; the mapping works perfectly (I edited X86conf) but I have a problem with using the special keys like "@". I would like to set the ALTGR key to use to get these special characters - but I have not really worked out how to set this correclty. Please advise. Cheers, Michael From cohendr@yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 15:11:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web3202.mail.yahoo.com (web3202.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0838F2D37A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.186.194.129] by web3202.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:11:38 PST Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Cohen Reply-To: catman@ascensionet.com Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk, tcarter@princeton.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Troy and Paul, It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. >From reading archives of the comp.programming.threads newsgroup, Solaris 7 and 8 both require patches to the operating system to prevent deadlocks with recursive mutexes. It also sounds like the patches may not completely fix the problems. Eazel has no desire to resolve this problem for Gnome 1.4 (although, I would imagine they would accept patches). All they care about is if it works in Solaris 8 (which is a reference platform). See bug 7007 in eazel's bugzilla for more information (http://bugzilla.eazel.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7007). - Dan Cohen Excerpt from Troy Carter: > Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in > gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong > about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess > Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Excerpt from Troy Carter: > I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. > The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive > mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to > use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are > being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have > got poking around mailing list archives. Paul Barnfather wrote: > PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > > It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, > but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > > Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flinstone99999@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 00:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (smtp-tor.internetconnect.net [209.191.75.194]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF322CA96 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com ([209.191.114.209]) by smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17264 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA324DD.357059C0@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:32:13 -0800 From: David Hampton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-init fails References: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > > Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? Yes. I su'd to root in an xterm window and tried to run the program. What confuses me is that the exact same executable does or does not produce this message depending upon the name under which it was invoked. When invoked as red-carpet (yes, this is red-carpet but I've seen this on other programs) I do not get an error message. When invoked as red-carpet-91, I get an error message. Its the same object file. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 4 21:27 red-carpet->red-carpet-91 -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 2228993 Mar 3 02:55 red-carpet-91 Can someone explain this behavior? Thanks. David From misiek@pld.ORG.PL Mon Mar 5 05:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.210.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79EF2D026 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (Postfix+IPv6, from userid 1002) id 9AF7AC8002; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miskiewicz To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnome-core && panel crash Message-ID: <20010305111135.A30562@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-URL: http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ X-Operating-System: Linux dark 4.0.20 #119 Tue Jan 16 12:21:53 MET 2001 i986 pld Organization: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution Team Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Problem with panel from gnome-core 1.3.1: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 #3 0x407b6948 in tasklist_draw_task (task=0x816f1e0, rect=0xbffff000) at tasklist_applet.c:478 #4 0x407b81f4 in cb_expose_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414, tasklist=0x81a8838) at tasklist_applet.c:1220 #5 0x402bb378 in gtk_marshal_BOOL__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x407b8118 , func_data=0x81a8838, args=0xbffff124) at gtkmarshal.c:28 #6 0x402ef3fe in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x8179d60, signal=0xbffff0d8, object=0x81a02d0, params=0xbffff124, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917 #7 0x402ee725 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32, params=0xbffff124) at gtksignal.c:1477 #8 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32) at gtksignal.c:552 #9 0x40329c49 in gtk_widget_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414) at gtkwidget.c:2864 #10 0x4032dba4 in gtk_widget_real_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:4585 #11 0x402bb6d8 in gtk_marshal_NONE__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x4032dab4 , func_data=0x0, args=0xbffff4f4) at gtkmarshal.c:193 #12 0x402ee571 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15, params=0xbffff4f4) at gtksignal.c:1440 #13 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15) at gtksignal.c:552 #14 0x40328b59 in gtk_widget_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:2335 #15 0x407b7393 in real_layout_tasklist (tasklist=0x81a8838, call_change_size=135413000) at tasklist_applet.c:774 #16 0x400b296e in g_timeout_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #17 0x400b18d6 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #18 0x400b1ef3 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #19 0x400b20ac in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #20 0x402b95dc in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:524 #21 0x0805dc8e in main (argc=5, argv=0xbffffa2c) at main.c:312 #22 0x405fc2fe in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) frame 1 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 338 width = XmbTextEscapement (fontset, string, strlen(string)); (gdb) frame 2 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 115 label_len = gdk_string_width (tasklist->area->style->font, das_string); (gdb) print task->gwmh_task $1 = (GwmhTask *) 0x814ef08 (gdb) print *task->gwmh_task $2 = {name = 0x0, icon_name = 0x0, gstate = 0, ghints = 0, app_state = WIN_APP_STATE_NONE, focused = 0, iconified = 0, frame_x = 147, frame_y = 13, frame_width = 364, frame_height = 265, win_x = 153, win_y = 32, win_width = 352, win_height = 240, desktop = 3, harea = 0, varea = 0, layer = 0, last_desktop = 0, last_harea = 0, last_varea = 0, last_layer = 0, gdkwindow = 0x817d8d8, gdkframe = 0x815ccf0, datalist = 0x0, xwin = 48234499, xframe = 12594010, sroot = 0x8186580, imask_queued = 0, imask_notify = 0} (gdb) task->gwmh_task-> is NULL. [misiek@arm misiek]$ rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs gtk+ glib gnome-core-1.3.1-1 gnome-libs-1.2.12-3 gtk+-1.2.9-1 glib-1.2.9-1 -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, AM2-6BONE [ PLD GNU/Linux IPv6 ] http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ [ enabled ] From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Mon Mar 5 08:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808F2E0AF for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25Dauo10959; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f25Dau105398; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: GnomeMessageBox Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Question: Is there a possibility to change the message text within a GnomeMessageBox, after it has been created. I didn't find any API call, nor something in the FAQs. Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From darin@eazel.com Mon Mar 5 11:31:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A83B22E078 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:30:21 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:30:58 -0800 Subject: gnome-vfs branch (was Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6?) From: Darin Adler To: Troy Carter , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/4/01 9:23 AM, Troy Carter at tcarter@princeton.edu wrote: > I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). gnome-vfs HEAD is not the newest gnome-vfs source code. You can find the newest code on the stable branch (and the branch used for GNOME 1.4), gnome-vfs-1. > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function > `strip_trailing_whitespace': > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' This error is fixed in the gnome-vfs-1 stable branch, but the fix hasn't been rolled back to HEAD yet. There's a gnome-vfs mailing list at ximian.com that has all the gnome-vfs experts. They don't necessarily read this list. One way to subscribe is to go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/gnome-vfs. -- Darin From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 5 13:13:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049602BB2D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZzSu-000IBU-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:12:23 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f25I0oT51374 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:00:50 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: RE: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:02:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hmph. Seeing as gnome-vfs is pretty fundamental, I guess that means "GNOME 1.4 will not be available on Solaris 2.6/7" :-( That's a pity, but I suppose I have to move with the times. So much for the test compile of GNOME 1.4. Clearly I need to check out the upgrade path to Solaris 8. Man, I _hate_ OS upgrades... >From Dan Cohen: > It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes > in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable > PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced > with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, > both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. From wphewitt@home.com Mon Mar 5 15:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c150135-a.potlnd1.or.home.com [24.7.139.148]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CB2BB98 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.com (IDENT:wphewitt@blowfish [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01183 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 From: "William P. Hewitt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for editing.... I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not a good enough investigator? TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... WPH From keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au Mon Mar 5 18:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au (smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C782CDC3 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dogbert ([134.7.1.238] helo=cs.curtin.edu.au ident=keithmag) by smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #5) id 14a42G-0004VP-00; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:00 +0800 Message-ID: <3AA41B9E.7E174E48@cs.curtin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:02 +0800 From: Russell Keith-Magee Organization: Curtin University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "William P. Hewitt" wrote: > > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... No need to play with config files. Right Click on the Foot menu Select Properties... You should be presented with a set of radio buttons describing whether you want various menus on the main menu, in a sub menu, or off. Select off for the Favourites and Distribution options. I'm not sure how you remove Run though. It's not a regular menu item; if it were, you would be able to right click on it and select an option to remove it. Russ %-) Enjoy, Russ Magee %-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Russell Keith-Magee PhD Research Student School of Computing, Curtin University of Technology email: keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au OR russ.magee@computer.org WWW: http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~keithmag Ph: +61 8 9266 2129 FAX +61 8 9266 2819 ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretending I'm pulling in a TROUT! Am I doing it correctly?? From michaelv@cox-internet.com Mon Mar 5 21:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (unknown [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3F2DBF6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:41:50 -0600 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:46:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is an RPM @ www.rpmfind.net listed as polished but seems to work on RH7 BTW: lycos Ha ! Try www.google.com "Its the best search engine available. Hands down." just my personal Opinion. Thanks for the reply. On 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500, Brett Castleberry wrote: > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > -- > From len@philpot.org Mon Mar 5 21:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC29B2D393 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010306025538.OWZV15172.io@vulcan> for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:55:38 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: A few general questions Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect a few questions for which I can find no answers in the documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This can be very distracting. When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... Related to the previous question, an even better solution would be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do that. Any ideas? Is there any way to get around the split personality of the panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. And while I'm at it... :) This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From jnelson@lexonia.com Mon Mar 5 22:34:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3622BB92 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03475; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Len Philpot Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Len Philpot wrote: The Gnome panel menus and structure are a big pain in the user interface butt. They were worse in previous versions too. > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? I had the same problems with Balsa. Go to gnome.org and get the latest version of Balsa, released just two days ago. It clears up a few problems but there are still significant bugs IMHO. I use Netscape 6 and Pine. Netscape too has bugs but the features outweigh the bugs and are less annoying than Balsa. Actually I'm quite disatisifed with every mail client I've tried but you get what you pay for. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. 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From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 02:21:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0582BB41 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f267LYH01906; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 23:21:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 05 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect > a few questions for which I can find no answers in the > documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. > > > Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic > underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs > in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This > can be very distracting. I'm not sure... I don't see the option at a quick glance. I kinda doubt it... > When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a > way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a > real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty > looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at > 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. > There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they > get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left > alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty smoothly down. > Related to the previous question, an even better solution would > be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default > icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced > by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do > that. Any ideas? You'r not the first to suggest it. It currently isn't possible. > Is there any way to get around the split personality of the > panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and > there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the > current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much > as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which > he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the idea is that then you always have access to everything in that you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd think the user could basicly work with a diff of the menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out what the name of the program is without making a copy of the entry onto the panel. That's just silly. --Ben > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? > > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > > > -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- > ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- > ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cleek@cleekhouse.com Mon Mar 5 15:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from whyrl.cleekhouse.com (c155877-a.sprgfld1.mo.home.com [24.14.179.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3542DDF1 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cleek (helo=localhost) by whyrl.cleekhouse.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14a1vs-0000ZN-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Billie H. Cleek" To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Look in control-center. Turn off "distibution menus" in the menu section of the panel configuration. On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... > > WPH > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From estoy@ver.megared.net.mx Tue Mar 6 12:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (unknown [200.52.208.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC002DFEC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net ([10.21.67.114]) by bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40165 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:38:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from estoy@ver.megared.net.mx) Received: (from vai@localhost) by lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f26IB5111618 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 From: MC_Vai To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling under OpenBSD Message-ID: <20010306121105.A23537@lapurapus.ver.megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have a problem compiling gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (X version 4.0.2). Specifically the gnome-applets-1.2.4.tar.gz package, The actual error point (message) is: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I. -I. - I../intl -I../intl -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" - I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/lib/ gnome-libs/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include - I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSIO N=\""1.2.4"\" -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/in clude/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -c modemlights.c In file included from modemlights.h:21, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:60: field `sc_timo' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:75: field `sc_stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:77: field `sc_npmode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:91: syntax error before `ext_accm' In file included from modemlights.h:22, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:74: field `mode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:86: field `stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:91: fi gmake[3]: *** [modemlights.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anybody have successfully compiled gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (with X 4.0.2)? or tell me know what can I do? It's pretty obvious that the problem is about the OpenBSD net library, but I've not been able to came up with any solution. Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Eduardo. From mike@cyborg-group.com Tue Mar 6 08:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8012BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14aGFN-0007lD-00 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:07:21 +0000 Subject: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is not meant as a flame but I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while evolution is not To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and stable than evolution - so why the choice From garud@mail.eecis.udel.edu Tue Mar 6 14:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8682BB87 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa02385; 6 Mar 2001 14:12 EST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: Radhika Rao To: gnome-list@gnome.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Cc: Chandrashekhar Garud Subject: problem compiling gnome-lib-1.2.8 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to compile gnome for Solaris 7 with gcc version 2.7.2.3 I get the following problem compiling gnome-login-support.c from gnome-lib-1.2.8/zvt.. In file included from gnome-login-support.c:2: /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:354: parse error before `}' It compiles with Sun CC. It seems that gcc that I am using does not compile any source file which includes sys/stropts.h Is there any workaround for this ? Thanks in advance chandra From aross@skyenet.net Tue Mar 6 19:33:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.skyenet.net (smtp.skyenet.net [208.137.1.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF202C8AC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from skyenet.net (IDENT:aross@port139.piqua.idir.net [216.117.46.149]) by smtp.skyenet.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f270ZGP04846; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:32:00 -0500 From: Art Ross Organization: Sinclair Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME crashes for one account Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried several times to bring it back up without success. There were some symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME configuration. Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. Thanks for the assistance. Art From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 23:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669B2BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274B9H04201; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:10:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2001 22:21, you wrote > > > The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large > > (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm > > not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless > > you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty > > smoothly down. > > Well, what was happening was that the icons in a drawer were > getting scaled up to 48x48. Apparently, you can't display an > icon at its _actual_ size if that's different from the size > that's "supposed" to be used (I guess). I was trying to use a > 16x16 icon in the drawer, since there's no need for anything > bigger. However, I finally gave up and used a 48x48 at its > actual size. It looks better (obviously) that a smaller one > scaled up, but it's still ugly to me in that it's about 4x too > big. Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > It seems there's no end to how big interface objects have/will > become in gnome. I'd much rather give the extra screen real > estate to the client area of a window rather than all widgets > surrounding it. Otherwise, you gain nothing with higher > resolution and larger screen sizes - Everything just gets bigger. I agree that a lot of things in Gnome are bigger than they need to be... I'm not completely sure what you mean... > Is it possible to create a transparent icon? Transparent icons show up as transparent... why? > > > I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's > > not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the > > idea is that then you always have access to everything in that > > you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd > > think the user could basicly work with a diff of the > > menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the > > current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive > > for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out > > what the name of the program is without making a copy of the > > entry onto the panel. That's just silly. > > My opinion is that if it's your "stuff", you should have the > freedom to blow it away if you're not careful :) Yep... > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > should have an impact on anyone else. For example, CDE on > Solaris: log in as root and delete all the front panel icons and > such. Then log in as someone else and they're still there (for > them). The reverse also holds true. That's how it should be, > IMO. root should really have no influence on any other user's > interface, unless it's set up in /etc/skel as a *initial > default*. If you really want to clamp down, just chmod away > their permissions to do anything, but that's not real fair. This sounds like a better behavior. What do other people think? Why is the behavior as it is? I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? --Ben From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 7 06:56:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EBC2DC4D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax59-191.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.224.191]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Bu7H04729 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:56:07 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6592EC48; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions Message-ID: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu>; from bfrantzdale@hmc.edu on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:10:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same property dialogues as panels... Including size. > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > should have an impact on anyone else. That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Is Murphy's Law constitutional? From mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Wed Mar 7 07:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx.tellabs.fi (proxy.tellabs.fi [193.65.253.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923B52C89F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (mxdk.dk.tellabs.com [172.19.74.16]) by mx.tellabs.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00655 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:51:02 +0200 (EET) From: mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23340 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:51:02 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:45:56 +0100" ;Modification-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:55 +0100" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have made a simple script that loads a picture from the net and want to place it as a background picture for gnome... Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome update the picture it has as background?? I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut it down... How can I update the background image without that hastle?? And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular intervals, but have found no such thing...) - Mads Randstoft From cmevoli@afsa.com Wed Mar 7 09:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E52DF12 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA06215 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:20:16 -0800 Message-Id: <200103071420.GAA06215@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:20:20 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Art Ross Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME crashes for one account References: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem once... try moving your ~/.gnome/session file to ~/.gnome/session.bak. Then you should get gnome to come up with default session. Afterwards, you can selectively move settings from the session.bak to the new session file that gnome creates. Make sure that after removing your session file, you logout of gnome properly and check the box for saving settings. Art Ross wrote: > Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried > several times to bring it back up without success. There were some > symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into > runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would > begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start > GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start > at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it > isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME > configuration. > Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. > Thanks for the assistance. > Art > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Wed Mar 7 09:45:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4A2BD60 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GNHAV9T5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:21 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVTZFL; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14afBV-0000It-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: window manager Message-ID: <20010307094501.H29825@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. I'm running Ximian Gnome with Sawmill. Currently when I go into the control panel, it says that Sawmill is not running, but it obviously is. Is this a known problem with a fix? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:06:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3B2E18F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:07:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:07:27 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:17:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9412BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307121807.024ff018@www.apt302.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113D42E245 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahn0-000480-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? Message-ID: <20010307183154.B15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mads.randstoft@tellabs.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100, mads.randstoft@tellabs.com wrote: > Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome > update the picture it has as background?? > > I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" > but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut > it down... Hehue, never did it this way .-) > How can I update the background image without that hastle?? "wmsetbg" if you have windowmaker installed. "Esetroot" if you have got E(term) installed. > And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through > freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular > intervals, but have found no such thing...) Have you tried ChBg for doing it the conventional way from the disk? -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:34:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA2232BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13240 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahqa-00048X-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@cyborg-group.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but it is one ,-) > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > stable than evolution > - so why the choice Hm, I think that a file manager is a much more important and much more single part of a desktop -- there are not many good GUI filemanagers out there and therefore they/we might have thought that nautilus should be shipped with it. I dunno, if evolution aims to be shipped with final GNOME 1.4 at all -- never heard of a release target for GNOME 1.4 like Nautilus' one. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 12:48:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27Hqvk02193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: Fatih Demir Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net>; from kabalak@gmx.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:35:36PM +0100 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > This is not meant as a flame but >=20 > it is one ,-) >=20 > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > evolution is not > >=20 > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > stable than evolution My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer w= hen both are installed. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnV4ADZzJ5PZfaMRAnSBAJ4ute5jjtXOE/7rRaWsFOszD2iVDQCcCs8p 5MTWZzMUCNdxcO8IulWStnY= =nDKK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1-- From flavio@conectiva.com.br Wed Mar 7 13:00:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (brutus.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761BA2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by barney.distro.conectiva (Postfix, from userid 726) id 7785D27365; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307145924.A30464@conectiva.com.br> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com>; from tanner@real-time.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > >=20 > > it is one ,-) > >=20 > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta whi= le > > > evolution is not > > >=20 > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution >=20 > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer= when > both are installed. so I have the same question! Why? > --=20 > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 >=20 --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqmdvwACgkQiRDznl8DCoAqdQCcCOFgYdDVjm4zNo+gEEQRIIV3 l50An22NasOZguRGsg6O+tQsGd2mmGad =cxmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From sullivan@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:01:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE2F2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (gecko.eazel.com [10.10.100.11]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UA3500.2HA; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:01:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 From: John Sullivan Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > > > > it is one ,-) > > > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > > evolution is not > > > > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility problems should be rare or absent. John > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BA92BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IC7002307; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com>; from sullivan@eazel.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:59:13AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bo= nobo > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibili= ty > problems should be rare or absent. The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnn2ADZzJ5PZfaMRAsYWAJwLaGTLiTo+WDLH1XL/yfaVrJXa5QCfeDtO pMuzeI/BGQnp+zC6NjOR0n4= =2dpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:18:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835402BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aiVq-0000UV-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:18:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:18:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > problems should be rare or absent. > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:23:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205172BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IRvE02841; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:21AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. Hmm, care to share versions? $ uname -a Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 $ nautilus nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info= _init >=20 > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to th= e Bonobo > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compati= bility > > > problems should be rare or absent. > >=20 > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > --=20 > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com >=20 --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pn2sADZzJ5PZfaMRAhO3AJ9Nf7lltKdf7x2az3zFwQ7bMWoASACfez1m QinwwAOXfG7TWaWMD8yUZ4w= =1pNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l-- From darin@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:27:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808DD2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:27:03 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Cc: John Sullivan , , "J. Daniel Powell" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/7/01 10:27 AM, Bob Tanner at tanner@real-time.com wrote: > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 Here's your problem. These packages that claim to be gnome-vfs-2.0 are actually packages made from gnome-vfs HEAD, and are too old for Nautilus. -- Darin From jfleck@inkstain.net Wed Mar 7 13:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A82BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08574; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Bob Tanner Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy development, you should expect it to behave like unstable software that's still under heavy development. In this case, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, the problems come from the mix of bonobo, Nautilus and Evolution, all of which have been under heavy development and have been rapidly changing, making it difficult to create a snapshot where all three worked well together at any one time. That is changing. If you want stable software, wait until the developers have finished writing it. Cheers, John From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:29:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aih4-0000hB-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:29:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:29:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST 2001 i686 unknown [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > $ uname -a > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > $ nautilus > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > -- > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > J. Daniel Powell > > dan@olliance.com > > > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 7 13:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30702BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14aio6-0000ea-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: jacob berkman To: mike Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not since around last august, evolution was not targeted for gnome 1.4 (since it was supposed to come out last november, and evoultion wasn't going to be done enough in time). since the release has slipped until now, evolution could have been a candidate for 1.4, but the evo team didn't want to commit to this, so that they had enough time to get out a really featureful and stable email client. on the plus side, with the libraries being frozen for 1.4, evo and nautilus library incompatibilities will be gone. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 14:03:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from enchanter.real-time.com (enchanter.real-time.com [206.10.252.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585802BDA8 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by enchanter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27J3ex25076; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307130340.A28874@real-time.com> Mail-Followup-To: jfleck@inkstain.net, Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfleck@inkstain.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:19AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Quoting jfleck@inkstain.net (jfleck@inkstain.net): > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > > both are installed. > > > > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. Make it an FAQ. It would save me from having to ask, save you the fustration of having to explain it (again) and it will save someone else from having to ask it next week. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Wed Mar 7 15:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ACE2BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27Kf1H26101; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:41:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103072041.f27Kf1H26101@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Jeff Waugh Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:40:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 07 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > > Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same > property dialogues as panels... Including size. cool. > > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > > should have an impact on anyone else. > > That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. Right. Does anyone have a UI reason that this is the way things work or is this the behavior only because it's easy to code? > > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? > > The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) Don't hold your breath. ;-) --Ben From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378D2CA1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27L3Od05674; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:29:57AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... >=20 > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, ca= n you give me a url? I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SR= PM is around somewhere. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqIcADZzJ5PZfaMRAhWbAJ4/cMFveNrxEDKLbLfzg1tuAqQwmACfdsNq WrQGXtNTidMMW9n6AkszkdA= =c+UL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 16:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6C52DC1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14alGy-0003g6-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:15:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:15:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpmftp:// ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpm On 07 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... > > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > > 2001 i686 unknown > > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > > I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, can you > give me a url? > > I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SRPM is > around somewhere. > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From bart@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 20:25:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0A2D3E4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (null.eazel.com [10.10.100.23]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UUN500.BFR; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA6DFA1.2B0B61BD@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 From: Bart Decrem Reply-To: bart@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: tanner@real-time.com, John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org, tom@eazel.com Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "J. Daniel Powell" wrote: > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... Eazel's launching a revamped software catalog on Monday. One of the great things about the catalog organization is that we can show many different versions of the same package and Nautilus users will be able to auto-install arbitrary versions (module conflict management of course). I count 9 different versions of GNOME-VFS that are available in the softcat that launches on Monday. You can find the catalog at http://www.eazel.com/catalog - easy installation is available to Nautilus users. Cheers, Bart > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > > > $ uname -a > > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > > > $ nautilus > > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > > -- > > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > J. Daniel Powell > > > dan@olliance.com > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > -- > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From shochat@acm.org Wed Mar 7 22:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88DE2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f283GK617767; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA6F9DB.20809@acm.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:17:47 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010303 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian french Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Configure and launch References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion brian french wrote: > hey, > > i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a > question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how > to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and > i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i > have to before i launch it. please help, For RedHat, runlevel 5 would run gdm on boot-up, (also running X) which would give a graphical login screen that should run gnome on login. To do that, edit /etc/inittab, changing the line: id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: If you don't want that (i.e. if you want the system to come up in text mode), you should be able to get startx to launch (X and) gnome by modifying your ~/.xinitrc. If you don't have one, copy /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc. From what you are saying, it may end up with something like: twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 & xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 & exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login Try replacing all that with: exec gnome-session From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Wed Mar 7 22:51:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFF2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25556; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:45 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial047.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.47]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA60308; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA701C7.1080601@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:51:35 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy > development, you should expect it to behave like unstable > software that's still under heavy development. ... > If you want stable software, wait until the developers have > finished writing it. Wouldn't be a very busy mailing list if we all did that! 8^) I've been wishing someone would make this point. But I expect a lot of people will learn it like I did, the hard way. Brett Castleberry From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Thu Mar 8 01:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2802BB74 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f286ksH00109; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:46:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f286l5j20227; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: libgnomeui - About Dialog Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) then I get a Gtk+ error msg: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi dget)' failed. I'm using glade for making the app. Reason? Regards Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 8 03:13:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E867B2BC92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from r1739.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.25.215) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:13:23 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Joachim Backes Cc: GNOME Subject: Re: libgnomeui - About Dialog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Joachim Backes wrote: > it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button > is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to > popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by > > gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) > > then I get a Gtk+ error msg: > > Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi > dget)' failed. > > I'm using glade for making the app. Well, GnomeAboutDialog is a fire&forget dialog. You don't need to free it after creation, but also shouldn't hold a reference to it. Just create it every time you want to show it. Regards, Jens From ascholer@ISI.EDU Tue Mar 6 20:54:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547212DF4B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute (lsanca1-ar6-026-159.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.26.159]) by nitro.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f271ot601361 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:50:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> From: "Andrew Scholer" To: Subject: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 09:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B41522BBE7 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA28260; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:32 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella Reply-To: Donald Tournier To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Open a gnome-terminal and type lots of stuff so that you have a good screenful of lines. Type emacs -nw, and open a largish text file (C-x C-f to open a file). You can then scroll around the file in emacs using PgUp/PgDn. Using the shift modifier, it scrolls around the terminal itself, which is not really what you want. If gnome-terminal grabbed the PgUp/PgDn keys, they would not be available to applications like emacs and they would have to use awkward key combinations, so you have to make some form of compromise somewhere. Hope that helps, Donald Tournier. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andrew Scholer wrote: Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 8 09:28:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572142E337 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28EWBg22221 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010308143211.A22167@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute>; from ascholer@ISI.EDU on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? It's in the FAQ. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > it (including other gnome aps). > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > different than just about everything else out there. Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used mailer, include: previous-page move to the previous page next-page move to the next page And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar gets me the weirdest result when I try it. There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's help. I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! Telsa From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 10:28:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B892DE78 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16560; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal the interface. NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Thu Mar 8 13:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3355E2BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRQ8LAC3; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3AA7CD47.7B5E6C6E@biology.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:19:51 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: <20010308170529.90ACF2E307@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can live with the shift-pgup approach. What I want to do is define a key to move just one line at a time. I can do this in xterm, but not apparently in gnome-terminal. I asked Miguel de Icaza if this kind of thing was modifiable in gnome-terminal and he thought not without recompiling: > HAEFNER > > ... Obviously someone has attached > > the "shift-pageup" key to a gnome-terminal function (scrollback 1 page). > > How is that done? Is there a ".gnometerminalrc" file somewhere? > MIQUEL > I think this is hardcoded into the Zvt widgets or the gnome-terminal > source code. > > best wishes, > Miguel. Does any one out there know if I can define shift-uparrow to be move back one line in the gnome-terminal buffer? -Jim Haefner --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? > > It's in the FAQ. > > http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html > > Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. > URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > > > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > > it (including other gnome aps). > > > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > > different than just about everything else out there. > > Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of > PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used > mailer, include: > previous-page move to the previous page > next-page move to the next page > > And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. > Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) > > If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had > just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar > gets me the weirdest result when I try it. > > There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For > example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a > terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in > a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... > So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > > > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a > > It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, > under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. > It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's > help. > > I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! > > Telsa > > -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 8 13:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB552BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN1P69SQ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:01 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT7RN; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14b53n-0001uE-00 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From len@philpot.org Thu Mar 8 14:02:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E2BBFC for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010308190158.BXMY15172.io@vulcan> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:01:58 -0600 From: "Len Philpot" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:06:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Reply-To: len@philpot.org Message-ID: <3AA783D2.2340.2D1770B@localhost> Priority: normal References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys > to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based > applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Of course, another approach could be to have the terminal merely host the application's display, whether vi, emacs, bash or whatever and not interfere with anything: Let _each_ app handle all the keyboard IO by itself, the way the app sees fit. That way, any functionality built into each app would be free to function. Basically, the terminal would cease to exist when an app was running (whcih would be all the time; the shell if nothing else). Unfortunately, I've not come across any terminal emulators that do that AFAICT. -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From hp@redhat.com Thu Mar 8 14:45:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76422E3E1 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28JkX708556; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the > "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol > characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome > team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other > communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal > the interface. > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, which we can't count on. Havoc From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 15:44:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FCC2BAB6 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18773; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Havoc Pennington Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 8 Mar 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > which we can't count on. Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt keyboards could be accomodated. I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From mhoffman1@pdq.net Thu Mar 8 17:25:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0213A2BAC0 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdq.net from [209.144.229.93] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with esmtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:25:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600 From: mhoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Out-of-control Panel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel is behaving...strangely. First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, because I don't use that option --yet. A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Matthew Hoffman From jfleck@inkstain.net Thu Mar 8 17:54:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580662E45C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11948; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, mhoffman wrote: > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > I'm not sure I fully understand your description of what's going on, but part of the problem, the loss of minimized icons, is most likely the loss of your tasklist applet. Right-click on the panel, then choose Applets->Utility->Tasklist. That should restart the tasklist, where those minimized icons live. Cheers, John From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 8 21:43:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643452BB71 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292h7H11582; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103090243.f292h7H11582@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc From: Ben FrantzDale To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:43:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm not sure exactly what's wrong in your case but I've had times where the control center (Window manager component) thinks one WM is running when really another is... You might try switching WMs and swithcing back to make sure that the control center knows what's going on... That's my only suggestion.... --Ben > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Thu Mar 8 23:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E2C2BB92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f294SAL13357; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel From: Stephen "M." Williams To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:26:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600, mhoffman wrote: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. HTH, Steve From wege34@zonnet.nl Thu Mar 8 23:57:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D8452C858 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26984 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.102) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:56:26 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-Id: <20010309055626.3f300151.wege34@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> References: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion mhoffman schreef op Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600:: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! > > Matthew Hoffman > It gets even more annoying here. I have Ximian 1.4beta in my sources.list, and last night a whole bunch of gnome stuff got upgraded. Funny thing is, like Matthew, my Tasklist is gone, and trying to add it to the panel gives no result. If Matthew is running the beta as well, I think we found a bug here. Mart -- You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE "SOMEONE ELSE." From hp@redhat.com Fri Mar 9 02:04:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B882CE9E for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2975Xt19646; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? > > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. It could certainly make sense to allow configuration of the "command" key, though it would require changes to lots of code, so nontrivial. The reason "Alt" isn't used is that it's used for the "underline accelerators," such as Alt-F to get the file menu. Underline accelerators correspond to a letter in a displayed word, and change when interfaces are translated into other languages. Thus if you use Alt for the regular accelerators also, it's very difficult to avoid collisions between accelerators. Already the underline accelerators are hard, since you have to use one of the letters contained in each word to be accelerated. The Ctrl- accelerators for an app with lots of them such as the Gimp would leave no letters available for the underline accelerators. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. Really the only issue is that you can't have Ctrl- shortcuts in a terminal program, which is kind of lame, but I don't think it's an enormous disaster. FWIW you can't have Alt- shortcuts either, since apps like Emacs also expect to get Alt. So using Alt doesn't help. Only using Hyper or something would really be effective. We could use NumLock, then you could accelerate lots of stuff at once without holding down a key. ;-) Havoc From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f118.hotmail.com [216.32.181.118]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89272BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: compiling gnome-libs Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB7DDB60:01C0A885] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All, Has anyone had problems running make check on ORBIT-0.5.6? I received this error (in short) ... file test-dynany.c line 330 (test_array) assertion failed .... Any ideas? Anyway, I ignored to see how the rest of the libs/gnome core stuff would react and there didn't __SEEM__ to be any side affects. BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. TIA -Ants _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 06:07:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E69602BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13684; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:31 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to the configurator. These are: /tmp/orbit-username/ /tmp/.sawmill-username/ Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. Hope that solves the problem... Donald Tournier. __________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Fri Mar 9 06:23:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E882BC15 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA08066; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:22:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Anthony Gardner wrote: > BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to > access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such > configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. > > Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. I had something similar once, due to different prefix/sysconfdir settings. Make sure you compile everything with --sysconfdir=/etc. Maybe this fixes the problem. Regards, Jens From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Fri Mar 9 09:49:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB252DE7F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GSXRT2FD; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT806; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14bO3A-0003XI-00 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010309093924.S6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, those are good. Well, I logged out and back in and the problem seems to be fixed. Maybe there was a missing .pid file for sawmill or something. Personally, I find the stability of gnome still leaves a lot to be desired. You shouldn't have to log out and back in. Many of the details are starting to get so obscured that it's starting to feel like *shudder* windoze. I truly hope these Linux desktop efforts still keep Unix as the fine product that it is. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000, Donald Tournier wrote: > > I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally > worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there > are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I > had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to > the configurator. These are: > > /tmp/orbit-username/ > /tmp/.sawmill-username/ > > Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. > Hope that solves the problem... > > Donald Tournier. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? > > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From famrom@idecnet.com Fri Mar 9 12:10:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (61-MADR-X48.libre.retevision.es [62.83.23.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA362DCCD for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01169 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010309153821.A1162@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jnelson@lexonia.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:45:27PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jnelson@lexonia.com (2001-03-08 at 1545.27 -0500): > > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > > which we can't count on. > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? Some, maybe, all, no. And some of us, are already using it for other things, ie window manager tasks, so no too (now that I have found a job for them, and that I can handle windows via keyboard, it would be a step back ;] ). > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. Hehehe, X is not just two options, mapping is not just that, I have Hyper, others have Meta, the other guy will have whatever he wants. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. IIRC, MacOS does not use Alt to open menus, but MS Windows does. An app that does this under Linux is NS4, all is done via Alt. On the other hand, how do you open a menu without a mouse in MacOS (or in NS4)? How would it be opened if GNOME uses Alt instead of Ctrl? Alt+Space and then single keys (the underlined letters)? And what would happen in consoles if the running app wants Alt+Space (or the keycombo that becomes elected as "go to menu")? Tricky land. :[ GSR From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 19:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E4B42DB57 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.28.27] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:14:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams: Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! Matt On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > HTH, > > Steve From jfleck@inkstain.net Fri Mar 9 19:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1AB2DEED for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15413; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Matthew Hoffman Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > Mr. Williams: > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > Matt - Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on gnome-hackers: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html John From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 22:55:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061582DF87 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.227.186] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: More Gnome strangeness Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030922063100.01486@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've got some more strangeness on my hands... After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! Matthew Hoffman From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Fri Mar 9 23:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69E2E22F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA09977; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A3xDw01189; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9A452.7070406@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:49:38 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
when I try to build any debian package the  ${shlibs:Depends}  statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file.  I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff.
  And something else...  the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run  dh_make -l
If you know how to solve any of these, please help.
Thanks  -SCUD
From simon@burble.net Fri Mar 9 23:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from burble.net (adsl-63-201-63-134.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.134]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45F2C863 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from galactica (adsl-64-169-66-92.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.66.92]) by burble.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30009 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Simon M. C. Butler" To: Subject: newbie question Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager my issues are: 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. appreciate any tips. rgds. -simon- From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 00:07:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459642BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.230.102] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams , mhoffman1@pdq.net Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030923175400.00780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yes, it is the desk guide (that is the name that comes up in "properties" when I right-click on it), so that much is certain. As you can see from my other recent message, I'm experiencing a lot of strangeness from my Gnome, including KDE icons mysteriously appearing on the desktop, then disappearing when I leave and restart X. I'm afraid I have a virus. Matthew Hoffman On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > Hmm, > > Not sure what you're talking about then. I though (in hope) that > you were referring to the desk guide :) If you could possibly > provide more description I and others might be able to help! Have > you checked the bug as mentioned by John? > > > Steve > > On 09 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Mr. Williams: > > > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > > > > Matt > > > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > > > > > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > > > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > > > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > > > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > > > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > > > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > > > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 00:08:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEA62BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From chultquist@alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 10 07:47:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uct.ac.za (mail.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE872C8B5 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za ([137.158.133.133]) by mail.uct.ac.za with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bimD-0000br-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +0200 Received: from pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za (mail@pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.108]) by alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18359 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:45:43 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=carl) by pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14bikG-0006Zf-00 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:45:16 +0200 Subject: Taslklist: assertion failed? From: Carl Hultquist To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.09.15.02 - Preview Release) Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:45:14 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi I'm using a Debian system and recently upgraded my packages which included an upgrade of Gnome. Most of the Gnome packages (notably gnome-core and libpanel-applet0) are on version 1.3.1.1 now according to my system. Whenever I try to load up a tasklist applet, it doesn't work and instead produces a small black pixel on my panel. Running 'panel' from a term and trying this again, I get the following error message in the term: ** CRITICAL **: file goad.c: line 844 (goad_server_activate_shlib): assertion `i' failed. If I load up goad-browser and try to activate the tasklist there, it gives the same error. Using dpkg, I've found that goad-browser (and hence possibly goad.c) belong to package gnome-bin but I can't locate the source for this and so can't try to resolve the problem myself! Any ideas? Ciao Carl From jocknerd@home.com Sat Mar 10 13:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mulder.self.hom (cx23684-a.chspk1.va.home.com [24.4.151.54]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363772DD99 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mulder.self.hom (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with ESMTP id f2AI1st05839 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mulder.self.hom: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Self X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. Here's my list of problems: 1. Can't change themes because I can't make any changes inside of Control Panel with Sawfish. Everything else in Control Panel works though. 2. Desk guide doesn't work. I can try and add it, but all that shows up is a little dot on my panel. Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome packages have been replaced by gnome packages. This is the second time in the last month this has happened. It never happened before. I thnik the ximian developers are spending all their time on Evolution and Red carpet and they aren't keeping up with gnome now. Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 10 15:08:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0B22BB31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2AKCak02761 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 GMT Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: <20010310201236.A1833@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jocknerd@home.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, Jeff Self wrote: > I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. > Here's my list of problems: I don't get this pair, but I haven't updated recently. > Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an > update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome > packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than > the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome > packages have been replaced by gnome packages. [snip] > Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my > helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced > with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and > I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. I think the decision to put the beta packages separate was so that people didn't run apt-get and get them by mistake. I think this was a good decision. Beta software is, well. Beta :) I haven't seen packages of later Gnome betas though. I probably avoided the mix and match because I added the beta line to apt/sources.list, and commented out all the normal ones, because I had not updated in a good while. I didn't want to get bogged down in all the other stuff; I just wanted the beta packages. So I ran apt-get with just the Ximian lines visible, not the main Debian ones; and then uncommented the main Debian ones again. This was sheer "make things easy by avoiding upgrading loads at once" behaviour, but it seems to have saved me from quite a few problems. Telsa From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 15:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Mail.austin.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE122DB9C for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by Mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:15:13 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by sm11.texas.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:06:11 -0600 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.211]) by mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:12:25 -0600 Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2A59hs06781 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Received: (qmail 11737 invoked by uid 38); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:59 -0000 X-Envelope-Sender: scud_mlist@seznam.cz Received: (qmail 11701 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/137254 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:35:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A559D2BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:44:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How do you do it? Thanks, Matthew On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > How did you install Gnome? Was it using RPMs or did you compile it? > What version of Gnome are you running, 1.2 or 1.4 beta? > > Steve > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome > > screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE > > icons were gone. > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate > > sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? > > Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! > > > > Matthew Hoffman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:36:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459932BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:07:31 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031012222500.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams and all: I checked out the bug report, but it doesn't seem to fit my problem, because the reported segmentation fault shuts down the whole panel, and in my case only the tasklist applet disappeared (and now, happily, has been restored). However, I may be getting to the bottom of this in some respects. I've found that my KDE icons are always put on the desktop if I exit Netscape Communicator from the newsreader (I can get rid of them by sending a kill signal to the PID for the the kfm). I've found other bugs like this in my Linux Netscape Comm. package, and I'll send reports to Netscape. However, I still can't fix my desk guide. Also On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > > Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on > gnome-hackers: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html > > John From eli@eazel.com Sat Mar 10 20:19:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712B2CF34 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (prometheus.eazel.com [10.10.100.68]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GA0EBZ00.NZE; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAAD359.C792AF37@eazel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:22:33 -0800 From: Eli Goldberg Reply-To: eli@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, nautilus-test@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day: Sunday March 11th (20:00 UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Join members of the Nautilus community this Sunday (tomorrow) for the final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day. You too can come and... - Discover terrifying bugs in the final candidate builds! - Experience a successful Nautilus installation through the Eazel Installer on your Red Hat 6.2 or 7.0 system! (*) - Watch Eazel staff members die of panic attacks! To join in the excitement, visit #nautilus on irc.gnome.org, starting at Sunday 20:00 UTC (12:00 PDT), and probably ending around Monday 4:00 UTC. (*) - This thrill will be subject to Eskil & Robey pulling off a miracle today. ;) From bighead@crosswinds.net Sat Mar 10 21:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.94.251.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A762D2D6 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bighead@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01162; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Message-Id: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: bighead set sender to bighead@crosswinds.net using -f From: Archit Baweja To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Archit Baweja From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sun Mar 11 01:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22792BA85 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA19318 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA10719 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12987 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id BAA25206; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: GNOME: Pilot, Calendar Addressbook Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm having problem building Gnome-pim.1.3.2. The following are the problems that I got: calendar-conduit.c:45: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.c:46: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory In file included from calendar-conduit.c:53: calendar-conduit.h:39: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.h:40: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [calendar-conduit.lo] Error 1 Could somebody help? a. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:39:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74752BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAh3P11219 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Message-ID: <20010311104303.A11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain>; from mhoffman1@pdq.net on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 or thereabouts, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro > installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say > this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How > do you do it? It's annoying, isn't it? :) There's no easy "what is this version of Gnome?" in the menu. There is a gnome-about program you can run at the command-line in a gnome-terminal, but that's just the credits for GNOME and doesn't have the version of Gnome in it. "System info" on the menu doesn't have it either. I usually suggest just checking the version of gnome-core and gnome-libs. This gets complicated because some distros use different names for them. But "rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs" will work on RH. "dpkg -l gnome-core" works on Debian, but I forget the package name for what I call gnome-libs. RH 7.0 came with Gnome 1.2. I know, because I have it too. As to the original problem: > > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared > > > on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and > > > went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. > > > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable > > > alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I > > > deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! It sounds more like Netscape weirdness to me, but I am biassed. I have had Netscape do weird things to my machine and I like to blame everything on it. Disappearing taskbar: is this the bar at the bottom of the screen? That's the Gnome panel. If you have a terminal you can type into, "panel &" should either restore it, or whinge that you already have a panel running. If you have a panel running (allegedly), then Gnome is confused. The panel will have said "hello, I exist" to Gnome. It's then supposed to say "I'm going away now" when it stops running. But sometimes it dies without saying that and Gnome thinks it's still there. This business of getting the "But a panel is already running!" message when there is a conspicuous lack of a panel used to occur, but I really thought it had been fixed by Gnome 1.2. I'm not sure about unavailable alternate sessions. This sounds like you are logging in through gdm, the Gnome display manager (aka "the graphical login prompt". I believe that offers choices of sessions? I don't use this so I can't really offer much help here. Telsa From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 11 05:45:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulexite.lion-access.net (ulexite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust204.tnt22.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.138.204]) by ulexite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 657EAFAFF2 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:44:44 -0100 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Three stupid questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse TFM) 1. How can I change the gdm background image? 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu for instance)? 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the graphics to look good to :-) Thank you all in advance! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:45:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F4A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAnYO11248 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Message-ID: <20010311104934.B11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain>; from bighead@crosswinds.net on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 or thereabouts, Archit Baweja wrote: > Hi > > Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I > have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the > Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on > startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, > and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Gmc is the default for people who have already been using Gnome. If it's a new account, then Nautilus will start. (I think.) First kill off gmc, then start nautilus. Like this: open control-center ->Session properties and startup programs ->startup programs (tab) ->browse currently-running programs...(button) ->find and highlight (left-click on) "gmc --sm-config-blah blah" ->change the "style" from Respawn to Normal (button at top) ->click "remove". Bye-bye, gmc. Now you have no file manager. Start nautilus off the foot menu. Now you have nautilus. You can't kill off gmc any more easily because of that "respawn" option. That means "if I die, restart me immediately". The panel has that respawn thing too. So killing off at the command line will just result in it dying and respawning. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 06:16:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAD12BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BBK3B11383 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Three stupid questions Message-ID: <20010311112003.F11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 or thereabouts, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) :) > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? I don't use it, but you'll probably need to edit the gdm.conf file which I expect is in /etc/X11/gdm/. You will find TFM at http://www.mkp.net/~mkp/gdm/gdm.pdf > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? control-center->panel->menu. Turn "applets" to "in a submenu" or "off", whichever. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue Don't use that, either. Sorry. Telsa From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 11 06:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (plato.exmail.de [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5302BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25087 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Received: from r678.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.21.170) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:18:32 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Pim Schellart Cc: Subject: Re: Three stupid questions In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Pim Schellart wrote: > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? Look into /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default (or create it if it's not there). This is a simple shell script which is called at startup. E.g. I use: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xsetroot -solid "#5971a5" to set a solid background color. But you can also use xv or another program to set a background image. Some people start the matrix screensaver on the root window. > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? Right click on the foot icon and select 'properties' then. This opens a nice configuration dialog, which is propably what you want. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the > middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a > window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I > want the graphics to look good to :-) Sorry, don't use enlightenment. Regards, Jens From rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Sun Mar 11 08:53:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca [128.100.8.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258222CAED for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from skule.ecf (rivet@skule.ecf [128.100.8.6]) by cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21833 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (rivet@localhost) by skule.ecf (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA276703684 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: skule.ecf: rivet owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Desmond Rivet X-Sender: rivet@skule.ecf To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: updater Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I have to download something new to get more updates? TIA, ---------------------------------------------- Desmond Rivet rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Eng Sci 0T0 + PEY rivet_d@hotmail.com You live and learn, or you don't live long From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 09:35:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BDF2CAB7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BEcdJ12030 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: updater Message-ID: <20010311143839.B11981@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 or thereabouts, Desmond Rivet wrote: > > I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a > while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I > have to download something new to get more updates? One of the helix/ximian lists would be better for this, but oh well :) I gather there have not been that many new updates for a while. There are only so many people working at Ximian, and they have also been building RC, XST, Evolution, and the packages for the first beta (which were on a different site so that people wouldn't accidentally upgrade stable working versions to unstable beta stuff). Just to add to the mix, there was an office move in the middle of all that too. I gather this because I asked yesterday, and the best answer I got for when updates will resume was "soon". Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:10:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A82D39F for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFEId12245 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: newbie question Message-ID: <20010311151418.A12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from simon@burble.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 or thereabouts, Simon M. C. Butler wrote: > i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on > RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager > > 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom > of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window > up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? > 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit > the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. I am wondering what's getting read when you startx. Have you got a ~/.Xclients or ~/.xinitrc there? What's in it? (them?) If they're present, what permissions do they have? I encountered similar symptoms to your second problem when using Window Maker with Gnome at first. Wmaker wanted to do the session management. When I quit Gnome, I'd get a blank screen and didn't return to the console. Telling wmaker not to session-manage fixed that. Can you do control-alt-F1 (F2, whatever) to get back to the console you started X from? As to starting a panel, that -should- start along with the other things which routinely start in Gnome. I believe that's file manager, help browser, control center and panel. You can start those individually from a terminal with "gmc &", "gnome-help-browser &", "gnomecc &" and "panel &". (You don't need the & signs; they're just to get your prompt back :)) Starting them from a terminal might give you some errors which make things clearer. Or they may Just Work. If they are remembered when you quit and restart, problem one is dealt with. I hope. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:12:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16912BB41 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFG4h12250 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010311151604.B12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship>; from famrom@idecnet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 or thereabouts, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): (killing things with 'top' and the 'k' key) > > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. > > Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and > quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your > system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs > and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). > > Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after > remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a > fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, > not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). I checked (briefly) on this. Apparently you shouldn't be able to kill init (and a few other things) via top on Linux. The magic sysreq keys are a separate story. I am still not going to try it to find out though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:21:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E1A2DD96 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFOtl12294 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Message-ID: <20010311152455.C12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com>; from wphewitt@home.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 or thereabouts, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... Control-center->panel->menus. You can certainly remove Favorites with that. Not sure about a Red Hat Menus submenu. I am running RH 7.0 and don't see it (unless it only comes up for root or something?) RH doesn't compile Gnome stuff into the kernel, no :) That's pretty separate. However, I am not quite sure myself what generates what shows up on menus. Two things to look at for RH are o anything in /usr/share/gnome/ or /usr/share/applets which has the suffix .desktop o anything in /etc/X11/applnk/ Things in the first one will show up in the menu editor. Things in that second one will show up for some reason but are not found by the menu editor. When you have a Gimp in each one of those locations, you end up with two Gimp entries on your menu. I believe the /etc/X11/applnk one is a residue from RH's old desktop setup for X, prior to Gnome. Telsa From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 10:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D112DC91 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-249.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.249]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2001031115334520405uq8tee>; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:33:46 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:31:03 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: /dev/dsp busy X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010311153347.A0D112DC91@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've somehow broken the gnome sounds. I can start esd and I hear the beeps. I can also play CDs using the CD player app. Gmixer works OK too, as far as controlling volume from the CD player. What appears to happen as far as the gnome system sounds is that /dev/dsp is busy doing something else. I can't find out what it's busy doing though. Can anyone help? I use the 4-front drivers and I'm using kernel 2.4.x and the latest driver. Fred From landie@concentric.net Sun Mar 11 12:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.concentric.net (ts004d21.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.26.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D202DDEA for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from landie@localhost) by smtp.concentric.net (8.10.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id f2BHTfg13973 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Subject: off topic Message-ID: <20010311122941.A13970@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion anyone using sylpheed having problems creating mailboxes already in use by procmail to filter mail????? any advice -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sun Mar 11 12:05:01 EST 2001 From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sun Mar 11 16:29:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90AB42BB45 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.24.225] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:29:03 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Further development... Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:38:27 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031115400300.00885@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Matthew Hoffman mhoffman1@pdq.net From gohel@csee.usf.edu Sun Mar 11 17:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3E2BBD4 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0356.cvx15-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.45.101]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00752 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAC03C9.8ABD6927@csee.usf.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:01:29 -0800 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME Mailing List Subject: Re: Further development... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear > without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have > to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Before you do that I suggest that you create a new user and test the behavior of GNOME under that clean environment. If that produces the same result, I would tend to think that your installation is suspect, and then I would reinstall the components. Finally, if that continues to produce the same results, I would then write up a bug report. Being able to reproduce the possible bug would be helpful. -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu From federico@ximian.com Sun Mar 11 20:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (cs2-16.modems.unam.mx [132.248.10.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB682BA85; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12779; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Fact-of-life: You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix release. Simple. Really. * Availability: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz * Changes in this version: - Fixed thinko in color parsing routines (John). - Added --disable-mmx for buggy binutils installations (Timur). Love love love, Federico From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 20:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154DD2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip-32-101-75-151.oh.us.prserv.net[32.101.75.151]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2001031201393920202knin0e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:39:40 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500 To: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not there yet. Fred >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix >release. Simple. Really. >* Availability: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 11 21:19:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2423C2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2C2I0L12337; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:18:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released From: Stephen "M." Williams To: fheitka@attglobal.net Cc: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 11 Mar 2001 20:16:37 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has it, though. Steve On 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500, fheitka@attglobal.net wrote: > In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 > at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: > > That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on > ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that > master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I > checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not > there yet. > > Fred > > >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, > > >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do > >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix > >release. Simple. Really. > > >* Availability: > > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From gards1@iinet.net.au Sun Mar 11 21:56:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C9FF2BC98 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15936 invoked by uid 666); 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO optimist) (203.59.78.218) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab67$f83d9320$0100a8c0@optimist> From: "Gards" To: Subject: When GDM starts, it kills my keyboard! Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the whole helix/ximian-gnome suite and = its all installed perfectly.. but whenever i start GDM to use gnome, my = keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll lock doesnt turn my = little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's or anything = because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. and the = keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really = want to use Gnome. Im running Debian (potato), kernel is 2.2.18 and stable, the mouse is an = intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and the keyboard is your = standard 105 key US International.. I can't give you any output, because, like I say, i cant change out of = GDM to get to a console to see whats really happening. I _can_ start = linux without GDM though.. Any help who be much much much appreciated. Thanks. Mikey. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the = whole=20 helix/ximian-gnome suite and its all installed perfectly.. but whenever = i start=20 GDM to use gnome, my keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll = lock=20 doesnt turn my little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's = or=20 anything because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. = and the=20 keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window=20 managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really want to = use=20 Gnome.
 
Im running Debian (potato), kernel is = 2.2.18 and=20 stable, the mouse is an intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and = the=20 keyboard is your standard 105 key US International..
 
I can't give you any output, because, = like I say, i=20 cant change out of GDM to get to a console to see whats really = happening. I=20 _can_ start linux without GDM though..
 
Any help who be much much much=20 appreciated.
 
Thanks.
Mikey.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0-- From fheitka@attglobal.net Mon Mar 12 07:10:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6D2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-139.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.139]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20010312121051201005pmmte>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:10:52 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:11:13 -0500 To: Stephen "M." Williams , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312121053.3FF6D2BAAF@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com>, on 03/11/01 at 08:16 PM, Stephen "M." Williams said: >I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has >it, though. I tried to download it from there and got an error. It shows up in the links though. Fred From kolarov@net-bg.net Mon Mar 12 12:41:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.net-bg.net (mail.net-bg.net [212.124.88.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DA2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool7.ppp.net-bg.net [212.124.88.199]) by mail.net-bg.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA13192 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:42:56 +0200 From: Yavor Kolarov Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: SlashApp MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Thanks in advance, Yavor From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 12:59:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC682BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cWah-0000yp-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:58:43 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 18:58:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices > headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any > way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Right click on SlashApp -> Properties -> Site -> Slashdot, easy isn't it? Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 13:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95F2CD45 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXP8-0001BW-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:50:51 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:50:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > [General] and [Display] > [General] contains options about what article information to show > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 14:09:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988532BC8B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA12741 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > > [General] and [Display] > > [General] contains options about what article information to show > > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. > > Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I > have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another > tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my general tab either.... > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 14:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48DC2E112 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXrs-0001IN-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:32 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Wandered Inn Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 20:20:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > general tab either.... Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the difference. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From jrigler@colorado.edu Mon Mar 12 14:55:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2617F2DB5F for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2CJt4J19134 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAD2998.D5CCEB54@colorado.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Focus on window with private color map Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently upgraded to Ximian Gnome (1.2) on a RedHat 7.0 system. I'm mostly pleased, but have noticed a fairly undesirable feature. I use RSI's IDL (Interactive Data Language) to produce plots. IDL does not play nicely with true color displays, and requires a private color map when generating plots with standard 8-bit color tables. Previously when I put my mouse over the plot window, it became focused (since I have my WM set to do this), causing it to acquire its private colormap, and screwing up everything else on the screen. As bad as this is, at least when my mouse was over the plot, it looked correct. Now the plot window is not given its private colormap unless I actually try to move or resize it. I suspect this is something wrong with the way IDL creates child windows, but I've even configured Sawfish to "Give focus to windows even when they haven't asked for it" (this is a "Focus" option in the Sawfish configurator), and I have the same problem. Any ideas? -EJR From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 15:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136702BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA13331 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD33F0.8564F437@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > > general tab either.... > > Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the > difference. Likely, 1.2 here. > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From leonchiver@xnet.ro Mon Mar 12 17:17:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653922E010 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 18dial235.xnet.ro ([217.10.218.235]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:33 +0200 Subject: gnome themes From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.27 - Preview Release) Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:17:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a new engine theme but it installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. Thanks guys. From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Mon Mar 12 17:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B12BE08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust157.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.157]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11579 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:47:38 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Leon Chiver wrote: > > Hi! > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > new engine theme but it > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. ./configure --prefix=/usr will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc file in /usr/share/themes/ By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: "./configure --help|more" to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 12 17:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (86-MADR-X28.libre.retevision.es [62.83.9.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C252D488 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02141 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes Message-ID: <20010312235843.A2138@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com>; from aquari0@linuxfreak.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 04:47:38PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion aquari0@linuxfreak.com (2001-03-12 at 1647.38 -0600): > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > > new engine theme but it > > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. > ./configure --prefix=/usr > will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc > file in /usr/share/themes/ > By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. > ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: > "./configure --help|more" > to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. I think he is speaking about already compiled RPMs and a way to tell Gtk+ where to look for themes (which are not from RPMs, I guess). As solution, install and then symlink in where Gtk+ searchs. I have my config that way, in the worst case I just have to rebuild symlinks from some /usr dirs to some /usr/local dirs. Well, just guessing, he could explain better. GSR From veillard@redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F932DB5C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21426 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Nicely suggested by our KDE colleagues in their first Kernel Cousin KDE issue ;-) http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010310_1.html It's a good idea. We used to have commit list reports posted, there is the news.gnome.org service too, but we never really had something like the Kernel Traffic analysis done on the gnome-list for example. It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check http://kt.zork.net/ Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From jirka@zinc.5z.com Mon Mar 12 21:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF02D9BB; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2D2TGm08444; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:29:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:21:55 -0800 From: George To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: gdm 2.2.0 "Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky" release Message-ID: <20010312182155.F6382@monique.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv'. Now at long last, people that don't want to run unstable software can also break their systems with this brand spanking new stable gdm 2.2.0 release. In fact, this is the first time you can break your system with a stable 2.x release of gdm, as before you would be breaking your system with a beta. What is GDM? (You mean you don't know already???) :) GDM is GNOME Display Manager. An xdm like program that manages the login screen to your GNOME desktop. It is not based on xdm and is a complete rewrite in fact. It was originally written by Martin K. Petersen, but he does not have the time to maintain the 2.x tree anymore, so I took over fixing this up for the 1.4 gnome release. Nowdays most work on gdm2 is done by me and Lee Mallabone. New stuff in 2.2.0 (from 2.0.99) - gdmconfig now works with more fontsizes (me, Lee) - Another minor xinerama fix - Fixup the pam message voodoo, so that it now is at least functional even though it may not be pretty nor 100% correct. - Initial gdmconfig documentation (Trevor Curtis, Lee) - gdmconfig now correctly handles RelaxPerms (Lee) - gdmconfig has now nice pam console helper setup (Lee) - gladify/beautify gdmchooser (Lee) - gdmchooser now apparently works with xdm (Matthias Clasen) - Better specfile (Gregory Leblanc) - Packagers should read the comment on end of config/gdm.conf.in (especially debian people) - Configuration file now does not force the adobe version of helvetica, and postgres and pvm users are excluded by default (Vlad Hrachev) - i18n fixes (Gediminas Paulauskas) - New easter egg - Bunch of minor fixes - Translation updates (Yukihiro Nakai, Carlos Perelló Marín, Martin Norbäck, Fatih Demir, Simos Xenitellis, Kjartan Maraas, Christian Meyer, Christophe Merlet, Stanislav Visnovsky, me) To get this modern marvel of technology go to ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/sources/gdm/gdm-2.2.0.tar.gz RPMS can be had from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/i386/ ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/SRPMS/ Since it nowdays seems that this is only accessible through mirrors of ftp.gnome.org, you can get all these files from ftp://ftp.5z.com/pub/unix/ as well if you can't find it on one of the mirrors, though please use the mirrors if you can. -George -- George A good memory is needed after one has lied. -- Pierre Corneille From jdub@giardia.yourweb.com.au Mon Mar 12 21:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from giardia.yourweb.com.au (giardia.yourweb.com.au [61.8.3.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E852BCB2 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by giardia.yourweb.com.au (Postfix, from userid 609) id 7268118064; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Daniel Veillard Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010313132252.A22338@giardia.yourweb.com.au> References: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 06:22:53PM -0500 X-Message: Leenooks, Lienucks, Leenoos, Lienus, Let's call the whole thing off. X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel > Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help > advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check Hi Daniel, Indeed, doing a kernel cousin is fun. I did the Sydney Linux User Group cousin (now sleeping, no one was able to share the load) for it's seven issues. Absolute PITA to do by yourself, but with a group cousin, it's quite easy. I'd be interested in helping out, or guiding the project to fruition. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From jrigler@colorado.edu Tue Mar 13 19:50:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85082E3FF for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2E0o0J05041 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the title bar, or tried to resize the window. In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest version of Mozilla. Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's gnome configuration are significantly different than the default configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? -EJR From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 14 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E22BDD0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 16493414 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAF1CD6.7040009@megapathdsl.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:25:10 -0800 From: Miles Lane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac17 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010207 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian appears to have dropped off the web (www.ximian.com, helix-update and redcarpet all fail). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 23:22:38.515867 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:38.525122 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50660+ PTR? 10.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:38.659223 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50660* 1/2/2 PTR dendrite.ximian.com. (154) 23:22:38.661216 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50661+ PTR? 4.176.200.216.in-addr.arpa. (44) (DF) 23:22:38.700100 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50661* 1/2/2 PTR ns1.megapath.net. (138) 23:22:50.515880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.615880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2482 > axon.ximian.com.8000: S 781966852:781966852(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.617078 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50662+ PTR? 12.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:56.729362 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50662* 1/2/2 PTR axon.ximian.com. (150) From jgift@wanadoo.fr Wed Mar 14 04:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3432BDDD for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:40 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.3.74) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:22 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14d77m-0000X4-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Best user list? Message-ID: <20010314095918.B1992@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm looking for a general user list where everything is discussed from particular problems to the future of Gnome. Is this it and if not, where should I go? Thanks. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From beirne@neo.rr.com Wed Mar 14 07:11:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pop-server.twmi.rr.com (unknown [65.24.0.109]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF062DC32 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from neo.rr.com (beirne@a13b025.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.25]) by pop-server.twmi.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2EC9Hw22481; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103141209.f2EC9Hw22481@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Joshua Rigler Cc: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Joshua Rigler of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 MST." <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:15:50 -0500 From: Beirne Konarski Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. > > .... > > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? I had enough lockups with Ximian and RedHat 7 that I started losing files on my hard disk after having to hit the reset key. When I lost my VMware NT drive image it was the last straw and I switched to Debian, which has worked much better. Beirne -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A882BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20216 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:42 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdk2WRm4; Wed Mar 14 15:06:16 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <385A497A.B757AB75@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys (Net Technology Systems) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: mp3 play panel app available? References: <3859C106.19AAC38E@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 0000001e-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm actually about to release pretty soon a beta version of a lightweight mp3 player for Gnome that will also have a panel interface. I'll make an announcement as soon as it will be stable enough to be released. Frederic Bellaice NTSys (Net Technology Systems) Daniel Weber wrote: > > I'm sitting here listening to xmms and was wondering if there was a > panel applet that just plays mp3 files. xmms is a nice program, but > I usually don't want to take up screen real estate when I'm hacking.... > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:04:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E32BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20351; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:48 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdwf5dJh; Wed Mar 14 15:06:20 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tommy_T Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 00000037-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's web site. Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version of Gnome. Frederic (fbellaiche@ntsys.fr) Tommy_T wrote: > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > Slackware > version of Linux. Is it available? > Thanks in advance, > Tom (tootie-t@pacbell.net) > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 14 10:59:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF18A2DBBE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28895; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:12:54 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma028892; Wed, 14 Mar 01 19:12:48 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA17692; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:34 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma017689; Wed, 14 Mar 01 18:57:12 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25014 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA11906; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:05 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 14 Mar 2001 18:57:03 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from gnome-core 1.2.4): (gdb) run Starting program: /home/gregory/ftp/gnome/gnome-core-1.2.4/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () (gdb) where #0 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () #1 0xff3be378 in ?? () #2 0xff3be5e0 in ?? () #3 0xff3be6f0 in ?? () #4 0xff3be838 in ?? () #5 0xfedfd65c in _XsunRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #6 0xfeddf394 in XRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #7 0xfeece07c in gdk_im_open () at gdkim.c:426 #8 0xfeebb488 in gdk_init_check (argc=0x1, argv=0xffbee938) at gdk.c:465 #9 0xfefbf880 in gtk_init_check (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:247 #10 0xfefbfddc in gtk_init (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:471 #11 0xff207fa0 in gnome_add_gtk_arg_callback (con=0x3cb00, reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x3d7f0 "", data=0x0) at gnome-init.c:139 #12 0xfed61ec8 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0xff284df8, post=1) at popt.c:56 #13 0xfed61e6c in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0x3c9c4, post=1) at popt.c:51 #14 0xfed62898 in poptGetNextOpt (con=0x3cb00) at popt.c:318 #15 0xfee414dc in gnomelib_parse_args (argc=248576, argv=0xffbeef14, popt_flags=0) at gnome-popt.c:86 #16 0xff208338 in gnome_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0xffbeef14 "˙žđČ", argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, flags=0, return_ctx=0x0) at gnome-init.c:456 #17 0xff378e5c in gnome_CORBA_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0x1cd58 "1.2.4", argc=0xffbeee84, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, popt_flags=0, return_ctx=0x0, gnorba_flags=0, ev=0xffbeee20) at orbitgnome.c:98 #18 0x1bbe0 in main_terminal_program (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, environ=0xffbeef1c) at gnome-terminal.c:2790 #19 0x1c018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14) at gnome-terminal.c:2934 Any ideas?... -- Gregory From jprokopek@snet.net Wed Mar 14 11:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.snet.net (smtp.snet.net [204.60.6.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E62C930 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from snet.net (119.12.252.64.snet.net [64.252.12.119]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f2EGHqL29469; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AAF9A51.9A537E24@snet.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:20:33 -0500 From: John Prokopek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Mar 14 16:29:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697802BEA3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from metric.ximian.com ([141.154.95.59]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14414; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:28:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200103142128.QAA14414@trna.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 From: Mark Gordon To: Joshua Rigler Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.12.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 16:11:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700, Joshua Rigler wrote: > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. I've heard some reports of Sawfish focus problems, but nothing specific to Ximian GNOME or Red Hat 7.0. I don't recall enough of the details to know whether they're the cause of your problems. > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I haven't seen this one. Maybe running Mozilla used enough extra memory to make your machine swap enough to make it look like the menus hung. If you'd been running previous Mozilla versions, that's probably not the problem, though. Was this in just one application, or in a wide range of applications? I like running a cpu monitor applet so I can tell when an application goes nuts and starts hogging the CPU, though in some cases applications hang due to networking issues that don't actually consume any CPU to speak of. > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? If it's a window focus issue, I'd look a the window manager. If you like, you can revert to the RH7 version of Sawfish, though it's probably best to do so when not actually running Sawfish... -Mark Gordon From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 14 22:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC542BDE7 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2F3kth14686 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 25 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet 0.9.2 running. This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from MandrakeCooker RPMs). I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old RPMs? Thanks in advance, everyone! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 14 22:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41ADD2D43C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa14085; 14 Mar 2001 22:59 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00627; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB03F22.8D2AFD9A@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:03:46 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Canvas resize bug? References: <20010314170541.CDA322E1A3@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, I notice that when you resize a Gtk or Gnome canvas, any regular GtkWidget contained therein DOES NOT get moved or resized properly. Instead, it remains in it's exact original location. This messes things up majorly. Anyone have a workaround? Like, is there a way to get the message being sent to the canvas for a resize? Perhaps there's a way to pass this info along to the widget? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From mimicky@hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 00:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.123]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4206F2E038 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:25:58 -0800 Received: from 168.28.178.73 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.28.178.73] From: "Micky M" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A7F3F20:01C0AD10] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear all: I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. --Micky. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 00:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5F2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010315053024.CXAY25216.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:24 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12711; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This seems to have something to do with the 2.4 kernel and oaf. It's a mess I think. I really, really like GNOME but lately things are just slow. It almost seems GNOME is living up to it's old self from a year or so ago when people complained about it being slow. Bloat comes to mind but I guess it's the way of the future:-) With a 900MHz athalon, 256Megs of memory and ATA100 drives it should just fly. Maybe I'm expecting to much. Maybe oaf and corba need to be coded in assembly:-) What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill off nautilus/mozilla processes. There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough as a file manager - yet. At any rate what you can do to help is kill oaf off with oaf-slay every time you log out. That seems to help. Any response from GNOME developers on this would be welcome. On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only > ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 > release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet > 0.9.2 running. > > This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from > MandrakeCooker RPMs). > > I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - > I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. > > Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old > RPMs? > > Thanks in advance, everyone! > -- > Sean Middleditch > of > AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Thu Mar 15 01:08:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015CA2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (garnet3-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.3]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 Received: from acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial1002.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.36.138]) by garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA67676; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: "Micky M" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Message-Id: <20010315010759.0d9a2a8c.bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 "Micky M" wrote: > Dear all: > > I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen > with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and > netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please > kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. > > --Micky. The easy answer: at the command line in a terminal window, type "panel &". Brett From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 04:01:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04032BE7D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2F90qc31112; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:00:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Farris Cc: Sean Middleditch , Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill > off nautilus/mozilla processes. I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive and consistent so they dropped support for it. > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > as a file manager - yet. Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. Regards, Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Thu Mar 15 04:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4572D711 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14dUUt-0000li-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB091DB.56C9E207@kscanners.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? No. I've been running Red Hat 7 and Ximian GNOME for quite some time, and haven't come across any major problems. Note, however, that I'm mainly using Red Hat 6 RPMs (we still have some Red Hat 6.2 installations, and I saw no reason for downloading two versions of everything); most of them will work on version 7 as long as you have the "compat" RPMs installed (which is very likely if you have upgraded from version 6). The only exception I can think of is gnome-core. > I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. Sounds to me like a problem with the focus settings in Sawfish. Have you checked "Focus Behaviour" under "Sawfish Window Manager" in the Control Center? ("Dialog windows inherit the focus from their parent" seems somewhat related to your problem.) > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I've never seen that, but then again, I haven't tested Mozilla as such (Galeon - http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - is more usable.) - Toralf From Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org Wed Mar 14 12:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9CF2BAAA; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.43]) by harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with ESMTP id SAA31108; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Received: (from simon@localhost) by vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Spoolhost) id SAA121094; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 From: Simon Budig To: Gimp-developer list Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all. Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for me this year. Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Thanks, Simon -- Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ From reboant@the-i.net Mon Mar 12 15:19:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sam.the-i.net (mail.the-i.net [206.136.176.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DB2DBCB for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from reboant (cca142.the-i.net [206.136.176.142]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab32$1d474b60$8eb088ce@thei.net> From: "Reboant" To: Subject: Self-Compiled Gnome Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:22:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just spent hours compiling gnome on Peanut linux just to find that the = panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an error message saying = "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel applets. I can click one of the side buttons on the panel to hide it then it = will go down to the bottom where it belongs and stay there but that = stupid error message keeps popping up over and over again.I'm going = crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can look at that might = help me Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and all the apps work just fine but no = applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG. There has to be some script or config file that'll set things straight = but I have no clue as to what or where.Could it have something to do = with permissions perhaps?Everything is owned by root just like in = KDE.Could that be a problem? Please help.I'd really like to get this thing working so I can see just = how good gnome really is.Thanks in advance ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just spent hours compiling gnome on = Peanut linux=20 just to find that the panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an = error=20 message saying "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel=20 applets.
 I can click one of the side = buttons on the=20 panel to hide it then it will  go down to the bottom where it = belongs and=20 stay there but that stupid error message keeps popping up over and over=20 again.I'm going crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can = look at=20 that might help me
 Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and = all the=20 apps work just fine but no applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG.
 There has to be some script or = config file=20 that'll set things straight but I have no clue as to what = or where.Could it=20 have something to do with permissions perhaps?Everything = is owned=20 by root just like in KDE.Could  that be a = problem?
Please help.I'd really like to get this = thing=20 working so I can see just how good gnome really is.Thanks in=20 advance
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0-- From joschi@eds.org Wed Mar 14 17:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.eds.org (zen.eds.org [205.179.187.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F452E453 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22320 invoked by uid 33); 14 Mar 2001 22:14:04 -0000 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: joschi@eds.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 64.160.162.151 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! -Josh From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54AF2BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:54 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:47 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dUKV-0000bN-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Sizing panel smaller? Message-ID: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Thanks, Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D12CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:58 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:43 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dXji-0000g9-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend > to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a > simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. > If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would > be appriciated. thanks! It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. root tail Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63F32BDAD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDbMc12659; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:42 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment (horzontal/vertical). Regards, Jens From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 15 08:42:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91752E120 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04466; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:41:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? From: Bart Kuik To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 14:38:35 +0000 Message-Id: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the standard-installation of Red Hat 6.2 is too old. To resize it You have to right-click anywhere on the panel and select : Panel -> Properties -> Size and there are some (7 in v1.3.0) choices from ultra tiny (too small) to ridiculous (too big). If your panel is too old, you'd better upgrade your whole gnome to 1.4 beta2. Very much has been improved in the meantime.... Bart From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 15 08:45:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58B2E29D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2FDjdh06085; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:47:54 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010315084754.D27630@sean.aweplay> References: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 04:01:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 58 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.15 04:01:11 -0500 Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to > kill > > off nautilus/mozilla processes. > > I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing > nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > Ah ha. Maybe that'll get Nautilus running on my system... > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus > development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > What!?! Now I really do have a distaste for Eazel/Nautilus. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like the one feature I wanted in GMC, and now they're never going to add it? And not intuitive? Even the biggest idiot understands how that works in Windows, what's wrong with it in Nautilus!? Argh! > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > Ya, I've done that, and opening a new directory is still less-than-snappy on my 1ghz Athlon.... > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From jwallen@techrepublic.com Thu Mar 15 09:16:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (unknown [208.50.220.170]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E932CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jwallen@localhost) by geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2FEDT411271 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: geddy.tech.techrepublic.com: jwallen owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: "jack wallen, jr." X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome-cal and mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is there a way to configure GNOME calendar to use a specific domain name when sending out e-mail reminders? as it stands it is adding my host name to the e-mail from addy. let me be more specific: jwallen@techrepublic.com is what i need jwallen@geddy.tech.techrepublic.com is what is being used. i realize that i could try to mess with sendmail to solve this problem but let's face it sendmail is not the easiest beast to configure. with applications like pine and such i can configure a specific domain name. so....can this be done with GNOME calendar? thanks a million. -- L I N U X L I N U X ---jack wallen, jr Track editor Linux/Infrastructure--- ----www.techrepublic.com 9900 Corporate Campus Drive----- -------Suite 1500 Louisville, KY 40223 502-814-7741------ X U N I L X U N I L From Melvin.Laney@itt.com Thu Mar 15 09:39:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gate1.itt.com (gate1.itt.com [151.190.254.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8912BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from no.name.available by gate1.itt.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 14:38:34 UT Received: from 151.190.173.213 by fwdcwall.de.ittind.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by fwemail3.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:33 -0500 Message-ID: <16BCA41BECFAD411931E00B0D068A21C1B8081@alexva-mail.alx.aes.de.ittind.com> From: "Laney, Jr., Melvin - AES" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RE: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assert ion Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John, I am also running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X session through Exceed. When I run linuxconf I get the errors listed below on my terminal. The app runs fine despite the error messages. I don't know why either. At least we know this is a consistent problem which isn't specific to your machine. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. -----Original Message----- From: John Prokopek [mailto:jprokopek@snet.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 09:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5A02BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FEndc16605; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? > > Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. > Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can > drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment > (horzontal/vertical). Oops, got something wrong here. Erm. Bart gave a good answer to this question. Sorry, but maybe my information was also useful ;-). Jens From ninetyninewaystodie@mailcity.com Thu Mar 15 10:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6238B2BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu Mar 15 07:04:27 2001 To: "Gnome General Mailing" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:27 -0500 From: "Salvatore Innanone" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? X-Sender-Ip: 198.62.209.10 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 10:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38A52E444 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W431C3; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6LJR; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZSl-0003oI-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: todo list Message-ID: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 10:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4D2CDD0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010315152539.GLLT4364.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:25:39 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02219; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100, Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > You know that statement is just down right wrong. Intuitiveness is in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone thinks or sees things the same way. The mailing list is a testament to the fact that people actually do want a copy a paste function. Providing this as a feature would have been a very nice option. It could be a preference that is turned on. > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > > Regards, > Jens How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a pain. From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 11:03:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from oxera.wanadoo.fr (unknown [193.252.19.223]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425322BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by oxera.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:03:28 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.234.217) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:02:53 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZa3-0000m6-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? Solved-Thanks Message-ID: <20010315162223.J214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:38:35PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik wrote: > You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the I'll have to pop it back on or look at my distro to see what version, Running potato... Thanks for the tip. received lot's of help, so thanks all for pointing out what I should have known if I'd spent more time on Gnome. My fault. Thanks again. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 11:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (mgate11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.158]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA932DBC9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id BAA03912 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id BAA15643 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, Gregory. > Hello here > > I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest > libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, > audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome > apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from > control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV > in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from > gnome-core 1.2.4): Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. # ./configure --disable-xim # make --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 15 11:24:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED2BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14daOX-000107-00; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: jacob berkman To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 are you running nautilus, or did you just install it? something that makes me suspicious is the fact that i get this message when i start nautilus: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory (this stems from me running devfs and not having a sound module loaded) it may be the case that nautilus is grabbing the sound device, and the other apps are trying to start esd or something. this is a common cause for app startup time slowdowns. jacob -- C-x i .signature From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 11:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B8202DDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05773; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:53:28 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma005770; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:53:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00363; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:58 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma000361; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:37:57 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04009; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA01130; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:50 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:37:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello, Gregory. >> Hello here >> >> I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest >> libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, >> audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome >> apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from >> control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV >> in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from >> gnome-core 1.2.4): FK> Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. FK> # ./configure --disable-xim FK> # make Thank you for your answer. I have got a new hope :) Currently I am trying to recompile all the gnome on solaris 7 (then will try to run what I get on solaris 8) so I will try your suggestion if I fail. Just out of curiosity, what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? -- Gregory From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 12:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (mgate10.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.157]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EB22DCB9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id CAA07596 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id CAA22027; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:45 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Funamoto Kazuhisa Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-NetHack-Code: NH 3.2.0U D [++ )++ P S+ D+ p- $ t- s- W E--- PS- PP+ G+ C+ I++ @W(wt) N-- b-- B- Y+ X- !So Sp++ !sb wb? User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) X-Face: JOl,T8(g~z&U-#td+1VvWOmUcOJ23za4U_M%6t^OrF{8NYMU1.9Xzy@/oq$E$$H!G|P^R9t k?D/%4KGJ:hF')gk?mzqrspzl$aow&{5b5f=-c/.6e8#`55C4*u1#{nz!":j)t8Zo)o_|d|(6AnUcJ ^Y;9VyFSYc@RC^DK[5(V Hello. I'm sorry for my poor english. > what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be > something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also # solves the problem. I don't know which is wrong. > to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? To tell the truth, there is an another solution, just run a xim application before running gtk+ applications. Then, you can enter non ascii in the widgets. But you have to prepare xim application such as skkinput or kinput2. --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 15 12:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C92BD3F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30078; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: George Farris Cc: Jens Finke , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > pain. You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and counterintuitive. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From liguo.song@vanderbilt.edu Thu Mar 15 13:36:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer4.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.214]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F832BC89 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (nlog.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.116.216]) by mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id MAA26673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:36:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:34:52 -0600 From: Liguo Song X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GnomeList Subject: Shortcut icons on desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear Gnomers, How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the desktop? I tried to grep -r CDROM /usr/*, but find nothing. :( Thanks for your help! Liguo (Leo) From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 13:37:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 789422C891 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06267; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:50:33 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma006264; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:50:11 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01701; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:55 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma001699; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:34:36 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09804; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA01375; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:32 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II (problem solved) References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 21:34:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello. FK> I'm sorry for my poor english. >> what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be >> something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able FK> Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. FK> When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. FK> # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also FK> # solves the problem. Yay! Your answer made me look in a right direction. I decided to try --disable-xim-inst before I disable xim completely, since by the stack trace it seems that installation of some king of a handler causes the problem and everything works fine now! And I can enter cyrillic too. Thank you :) -- Gregory From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 15:18:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC22CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:38 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4PYH4; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NG1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14de5H-0004He-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 To: Gnome General Mailing Subject: Re: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? Message-ID: <20010315151055.F2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome General Mailing References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500, Salvatore Innanone wrote: > Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with > 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be > found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and > select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when > creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) > and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere > either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things > more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody > Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), > and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am > also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be > tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? No idea, but just for reference, I'm running Debian 2.2, plus XFree 4.0.2 (which is available in unstable btw), and Ximian Gnome, and that doesn't happen to me. *shrug* Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From jwkim@MIT.EDU Thu Mar 15 15:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7552CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02669; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27826; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08758; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id PAA32495; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since > the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are > plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Thu Mar 15 16:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75E2BD08 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id BAAF8390C1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FF390C0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: compile error gnome-libs 1.2.12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, when i try to compile gnome-libs (using --enable-prefer-db1) i get the following error: make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o libgnome.la ../support/libgnomesupport.la -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o .libs/libgnome.so -lglib -lm -ldl -lz -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib gnome-dump.o: In function `main': gnome-dump.o(.text+0x43): undefined reference to `dbopen' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [gnome-dump-metadata] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 when i try to compile it without --prefer-enable-db1 i get somewhat the same error except for 'undefined referece to 'dbopen'', which is changed to 'undefined reference to '__db185_open''. i've installed both db1.85 and db2.7.7 with 1.85 support. anyone got a clue? hanne. From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 17:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD042CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:37 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4QF1W; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NL6; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:21 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14df6v-0004N4-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list Message-ID: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwkim@MIT.EDU on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the to-do list. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 22:44:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F492BDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010316034422.ZYLP27164.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:22 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200103160344.TAA03906@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: John Nelson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500, John Nelson wrote: > On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > > pain. > > You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT > from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had > one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find > the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and > counterintuitive. > Yup sure could. I'm also pretty disappointed that one can't even view rpm or tar.gz files which is something gmc has been able to do forever. Anyway I'm willing to be patient after all this is just a 1.0 release. I question whether it should be moved to the stable branch on ftp.gnome.org however. I really, really don't want the same thing to happen like last time GNOME was rushed out the door. What a lot of bad press:-( From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 00:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7562BEBE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA00331; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA21117; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA15542; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id AAA00246; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Okay, then I should go ahead and use jpilot instead. Do you know how I can remove gnome pilot? It automatically starts when gnome starts and I have no idea how to remove this... adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) > > I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day > specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the > to-do list. > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From rjp@mail.tele.dk Fri Mar 16 03:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB02BC87; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CF102AB5; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:18:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tele.dk (IDENT:rjp@port110.cvx1-hb.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.232.111]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64481; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rjp@mail.tele.dk) Message-ID: <3AB1CC35.3F7B50F7@mail.tele.dk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:17:57 +0100 From: "Rebecca J. Walter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 To: egger@suse.de Cc: jens@gnome.org, Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 References: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I get back from the US on the 6th. I could probably help out the 7-8th if i could get some help with my travel expenses. I may not be the best person though since I don't speak a word of German and I'm not a coder. but let me know. bex From mandreiana@rdsnet.ro Fri Mar 16 03:49:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from corporate.fx.ro (corporate.fx.ro [193.231.208.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBA2BC3E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fx.ro (Beavis.fx.ro [193.231.208.21]) by corporate.fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mnq04499; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:50 +0200 Received: from rdsnet.ro ([193.231.212.69]) by fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mn632197; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3AB1D36C.6B679720@rdsnet.ro> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:44 +0200 From: Marius Andreiana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Those are created by magicdev, afaik. You can remove magicdev from the default session. -- Marius Andreiana From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 05:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f33.hotmail.com [216.32.181.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B7F2BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:59:17 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Panrl Problem Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[25676B80:01C0AE08] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel option is picked. When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in the middle after restarting X. Any ideas? At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? TIA -Ants. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From darin@eazel.com Fri Mar 16 12:00:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A38012DC5E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:16 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Louis Garcia , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/15/01 11:46 PM, Louis Garcia at louisg00@bellsouth.net wrote: > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when using > nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel starts. When > nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second and then nautilus > redraws the background and places the icons on the desktop. It doesn't seem to > be anything wrong, it just doesn't look right. It's a bug we'd like to fix some day . -- Darin From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 17:17:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48C2BEBF for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA12810 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.85]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA28504 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25736 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id RAA01212; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... adlar From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Fri Mar 16 19:57:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A02BD19 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck.finkployd.com (gordon.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2DCgO003181 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:42:24 GMT Message-Id: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Subject: Session Manager Capplet From: cduck To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:00:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. thanks, -chris From ash@darkstar.gnome.org Fri Mar 16 23:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darkstar (host-216-78-86-34.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE072C9FE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2H4W9272769 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous gnome has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not get past zvt though due to an undefined reference: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' *** Error code 1 my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep on ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference to it is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing I've had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. thanks austin From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 05:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-137.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161C2BD21 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2HAfdg00382 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:38 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au>; from nhems@linuxfreemail.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yea, i got bit by that once the first time I ever compilied gnome; so that was one of the first things i double checked. austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From kabalak@gmx.net Sat Mar 17 06:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38D672C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26390 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from b8039.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.57) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14eEZG-0000LF-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010317120818.A1309@gmx.net> References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. It's in gnome-core now. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From alex80it@libero.it Sat Mar 17 06:15:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2732C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from libero.it (151.29.192.59) by smtp1.libero.it (5.5.022) id 3AB1F23300031A34 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:15:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB346C0.198F5928@libero.it> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:13:04 +0100 From: Alex Damiani X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Screensaver exits account! Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have a proble with my screensaver. I am running redHat Linux 7, and in Gnome, if I don't do anything for a few mins, the screensaver starts, but instead of showing me what I had chosen, it exits my account and asks to log in again. If I try to access the GNOME configuration tool, and I click on the "Screensaver" icon on the left hand side, it still exits my account without letting me change the settings. Could you tell me what's wrong, and, most of all, how to fix it? Is there a place I can go to look for a configuration file for the screensaver, that I can reset, or something? thanks in advance, Alex From ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl Sat Mar 17 07:37:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E532C934 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1055 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:35:47 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Slooten X-Sender: To: Adlar Kim Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. there... gone ;-) I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) Ralph On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > adlar > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz From federico@ximian.com Sat Mar 17 10:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [148.223.152.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0D2D2AB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07903; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Message-Id: <200103170249.UAA07903@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-memfrob: Frobnicate N bytes of S. To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Liguo Song writes: > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Bring up the context menu for the icons and select "Delete". Federico From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sat Mar 17 11:16:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3EF2DBF5 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24411; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29624; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id LAA02483; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Ralph Slooten Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... adlar On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > From jlwallen@home.com Sat Mar 17 11:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585AB2CB43 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com ([24.10.87.23]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010317164828.ONPK20878.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com> for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:48:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jack Wallen X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome 1.4 not starting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm -q gnome-core i'm getting: gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? -- \||/ J A C K 00 Not an even field to be on > Feels like standing still - for eons and eons W A L L E N From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sat Mar 17 12:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCB2DF60 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id CABBB38AA0; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBA38A9F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, when starting gnome i get this: /convert: No such file or directory gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. and then a whole load of these messages, each with another image. anyone got an idea what the problem can be? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sat Mar 17 12:58:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9E32BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11184; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24732; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Message-ID: <3AB3A560.8AE73E49@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:56:48 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wallen Cc: gnome list Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 not starting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-core-1.3.0 is as far as I know the latest version, and that included in GNOME 1.4beta2 (well, it's the one I have anyway). Upon the final release I assume the version number will be changed to 1.4.0. Jack Wallen wrote: > i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is > starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm > -q gnome-core i'm getting: > > gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 > > how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? From jbrownin@runbox.com Sat Mar 17 13:37:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5162BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-16-239.kems.net ([168.187.16.239]) by pluto.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14eLZB-0002iv-00; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:36:42 +0100 Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? From: Jeff Browning To: Adlar Kim Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 17 Mar 2001 21:39:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you're using an RPM based distrib, as root, type in rpm -e gnome-pilot to remove the package. Jeff On 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I > thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... > > adlar > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > > there... gone ;-) > > > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > > > Ralph > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > > > adlar > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From drifter@outerlounge.de Sat Mar 17 13:58:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-140.gwdg.de (RAS23-140.gwdg.de [134.76.23.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B912BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HIveg20830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 From: Jens Stroebel To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: Jens Stroebel , gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: ; from noodle@pigforce.warande.net on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100, Hanne wrote: > hi, hiya, > when starting gnome i get this: > /convert: No such file or directory this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... wrong. Quite a few things use it. HTH, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 23:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-85-186.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.85.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D2BE08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HNqNX19799 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317185222.A19779@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Friday 16 March, Austin hall gripes: > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs > but the building process will not get past zvt... On examination of gnome-libs-1.2.9/Makefile i find this: ZVT_LIBS = -lzvt -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm is this correct? is there a more gnome-inclined individual then myself who can tell me if i am missing any kind of library. thanks austin From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Sun Mar 18 00:26:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15A2BE08 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA17217 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3AB4464A.FDC16F4D@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:22 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ralph Slooten wrote: > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... Actually, the developer's name begins with a J, and that's where it gets it's name. It's in the docs. > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 02:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498802DC73 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust119.tnt13.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.120.119]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 4CF2428AA for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Keyboard question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel menu? P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 04:50:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA9AC2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6027 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p75.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:48:28 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: gnome-ist Subject: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 2503 Lines: 51 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I try to compile gnome-vfs-1.0.0, but the compilation doesn't succeed. It stops at: make[3]: Entering directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c rm -f .libs/http-method.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o libs/http-method.lo http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Do I miss a paricular lib? Thanks. Best regards, Klaus From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 06:11:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C72BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust87.tnt30.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.154.87]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 1003B2887 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:15:38 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bitmap format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot (file type not resolution) THNX in advance for any help... From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 18 06:18:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB892BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14807 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Received: from 213-21-43-234.surf-callino.de (213.21.43.234) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 In-Reply-To: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > libs/http-method.lo > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without > a cast > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. Regards, Jens From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:34:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBA2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICYqx06764 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181234.f2ICYqx06764@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Evolution and the Pilot Connect Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I thought that after you install Ximian Gnome and Evolution that options would appear in the Gnome config tool so that you could hook link the two during a hot sync, or am I missing something somewhere? Thanks Sean From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157B32BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICdax10614 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181239.f2ICdax10614@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pilot and Calendar Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When syncing a pilot with the Gnome desktop, how do I get my appointments to appear in the default calendar? I'm not sure what file to open, though I have looked and when doing a sync it does open the calendar, but no appointments appear. The address info all appears fine in the Gnome Card file app. I'm running Ximian Gnome on RH 7.0 with all the latest updates through the "Red Carpet Installer". Thanks Sean From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sun Mar 18 07:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50212BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id 1D92338A87; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767C38567 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:29 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 In-Reply-To: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Jens Stroebel wrote: > > when starting gnome i get this: > > /convert: No such file or directory > > this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... > same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the > space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... > wrong. Quite a few things use it. thanks, i installed Imagemagick, and now this convert error is gone. which leaves me with: gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. anyone? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 10:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DC92BB31 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24013 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p88.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.88) by mail.gmx.net (mp024-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:39:35 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> References: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:18:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 48 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion But : $ gconf-config --version 1.0.0 $ gconf-config --libs -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Regards, Klaus On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > > libs/http-method.lo > > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer > without > > a cast > > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. > > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792C2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01165 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318163710.B1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 08:44:55AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 0844.55 +0100): > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel > menu? Go to Panel Global Config, and in Misc tab, enable the Bindings section. By clicking in the capture buttons you will only need to push the keys you want. As the rare symbol keys are normally set to Meta or another modifier, you will have to hit it plus a normal key (like "X" or "Z", similar to "Shift + Z", but "Symbol + Z", which will appear listed as "Meta + Z" or "Mod# + Z" when you use the capture option). > P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) Maybe you will have to play with xmodmap cmd to change config if the key is not detected, it should if you chose the right model when installing. Try xev and see if the key produces something. You will also need to use "xmodmap" if you want it to work as normal key instead as a modifier. But trust me, it is better as modifier, cos you can do all your window management with it (maximize, minizme, change desktop), instead of wasting it with a single task. Having it as Hyper (L and R) removes a lot of problems, not more "When I hit Alt + Mouse1 it moves the window instead of doing foo function of bar app, as manual describes". Note: I dunno why but my computer does not launch menu panel ("Hyper + X" here), I will wait for 1.4, maybe it is fixed there. It worked with Gnome 1.2.2, but not since I got the 1.2.4 core, it just flashes focus. I do not care much either, I just used it for the Log Out entry and a few more things. I also found that as I have Hyper_R and Hyper_L, the config tool has both, but does not allows to use both at the same time. Using a keycombo it gives Mod4 (plus the normal key), with both Hyper_R and Hyper_L, which is a lot nicer (I can use any hand, instead of being locked into usin only one side). GSR From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED02BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01137 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:15:38PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > (file type not resolution) Try "man xsetroot" for info. But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters would give you an image in root window placed as you want). GSR From olau@hardworking.dk Sun Mar 18 11:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B0542BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5876 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: from 30.ppp1-2.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.158) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IGdPn07109; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Pim Schellart's message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the > pannel menu? Does the "grab key" button in foot menu->settings->desktop->panel->misc. recognize the key? Else you have to tell X about it first. One way to do that is to put something like keycode 115 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R clear Mod4 add Mod4 = Hyper_L add Mod4 = Hyper_R keycode 117 = XF86Start in .Xmodmap and run xmodmap .Xmodmap (or restart X, however that isn't needed). This makes the Micros~2 flag keys work as modifier keys (like Meta) which you can use for, for instance, window manager bindings instead of Meta to avoid clashes between programs like Emacs and the global bindings - nowadays Sawfish even has an easy way to switch all bindings from the default (Meta, I think) modifier to Hyper. The last Windows key is bound to XF86Start which you can then bind with the "grab key" button to start the panel menu. If you really want all your Windows keys to act as menu shortcuts, try something like keycode 115 = XF86Start keycode 116 = XF86Start keycode 117 = XF86Start instead. There might be another, more descriptive key symbol than XF86Start - I wouldn't know since I don't use my extra key for a panel shortcut but rather the slash '/' since it is placed very unhandy in the Danish keyboard layout. All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 12:38:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BFD2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01517 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:39:25PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 1739.25 +0100): > All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - > check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. I have: ---8<--- Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" [...] LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control [...] XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc105)+es" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc105" XkbLayout "es" EndSection --->8--- And I use as .Xmodmap the following: ---8<--- ! Alt works as Alt and as Meta keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L ! Make the rare key work as Hyper clear mod4 keycode 115 = Hyper_L add mod4 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R add mod4 = Hyper_R ! The menu key works as compose keycode 117 = Multi_key --->8--- So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. GSR From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 15:35:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F332DC53 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:36:49 +0200 Subject: gnome 1.4 release schedule From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:36:16 +0200 Message-ID: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? Bye...... From hermanr@mailroom.com Sun Mar 18 16:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37D2BC57 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (p0771.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.8]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2IL6Iq00101 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:06:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:07:09 +0100 From: Herman Roozenbeek To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: launch feedback capplet in control-center 1.4.0? Message-ID: <20010318220709.A10106@bommelstein.wanadoo.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In the help file for control-center 1.4.0, I see an item concerning the "Launch Feedback" capplet. But I can't find it nowhere... What has happened to it? Herman From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 16:38:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B82C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:39:40 +0200 Subject: gnome file open dialog. From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day when gnome will be as easy and productive to use as kde is? I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there where it should be. From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sun Mar 18 16:48:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4330C2C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa20937; 18 Mar 2001 21:47 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24823; 18 Mar 2001 21:46 GMT Message-ID: <3AB52CE0.372B1D27@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:47:12 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome file open dialog. References: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Isn't the GNOME file dialog just the standard GTK+ one? GTK+ certainly needs a better dialog - a button for the ~ directory should be there at the very least, and I would definitely prefer something closer to what KDE2 has. One hopes GTK+ 2 has better dialogs planned, but it would be nice to see better ones added to GTK 1.2. Surely it's not too hard to replace the dialog with something nicer without breaking the interface? That's the point of using a fake OO architecture for the library in the first place isn't it? And if one can't be put in GTK+, perhaps one should be added to gnome-libs. Leon Chiver wrote: > I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, > HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day > when gnome will be as easy and productive to > use as kde is? > > I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there > where it should be. From jh0u@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:14:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f38.hotmail.com [216.32.181.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329C2BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Received: from 63.209.94.121 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.209.94.121] From: "ordinary user" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7BAD5F0:01C0AFF8] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an impossible situation?... Any help would be appreciated. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sun Mar 18 18:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3372BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2IN10H09212; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103182301.f2IN10H09212@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: Three stupid questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Pim Schellart Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) > > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle > but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window > manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the > graphics to look > good to :-) That's an enlightenment theme issue... ask on the enlightenment list (e-develop@enlightenment.org) The theme determines what the startup looks like, so it sounds like Blue Steel is missing something... --Ben > Thank you all in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 18:33:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769D72BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm14-a33.dial.sovam.com ([195.218.132.33]:1408 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:37 +0300 Received: (qmail 3817 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7476 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C20010317001205=2EA5344=40flame-in-night=2Etaurussoft=2Eorg?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=3E=3B_from_dmitry=40taurussoft=2Eorg_on_=F3=C2=D4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_17=2C_2001_at_00:12:05_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP localnet folder. From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 19:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAE32E1EE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12507; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > Hi All! > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): 1. add yourself to the mail group 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant for Evo to import it > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > useless for me :( I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some > differnt ways. Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you imply in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and I'm sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security wise but they are still options. > > Dmitry > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > process my IMAP localnet folder. Evolution handles IMAP fine... Jeff From subb3@attglobal.net Sun Mar 18 20:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caesar.lynix.com (cc885639-a.flushing1.mi.home.com [24.182.96.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BFC52DCE0 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4501 invoked by uid 1005); 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000 From: Subba Rao To: Gnome Users Subject: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports Message-ID: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Reply-To: Subba Rao Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different login session, the applets were using different ports. Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Subba Rao subb3@attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ From darin@eazel.com Sun Mar 18 21:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C92D3B7 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:00:58 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 From: Darin Adler To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: Gnome Users , Jens Finke Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: >>> -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o >>> libs/http-method.lo >>> http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': >>> http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >>> http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) >>> http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' >>> http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer >> without >>> a cast >>> http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 >>> make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' >>> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: >> Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. on 3/18/01 7:39 AM, Klaus Dahlke at klaus.dahlke@gmx.de wrote: > $ gconf-config --version > 1.0.0 > > $ gconf-config --libs > -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP > -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Perhaps you have two sets of the gconf headers. Maybe gconf is installed in two different prefixes. The error above are definitely an example of the gnome-vfs compile including headers from an old gconf. -- Darin From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 22:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA42BE8C for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts18-a257.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.6.3]:1565 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:19 +0300 Received: (qmail 4441 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 2001 03:39:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C984961259=2E10834=2E0=2Ecamel=40tazmanian-devil=2Ehelixcod?= =?KOI8-R?Q?e=2Ecom=3E=3B_from_fejj=40ximian=2Ecom_on_=F0=CE=C4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_19=2C_2001_at_03:20:58_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 62 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion îÁ đÎÄ, 19 íÁŇ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÎÁĐÉÓÁĚ: > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > Hi All! > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > mail? > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on /var/spool/mail > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) Fully agree with "not recommended" > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > for > Evo to import it So I'll have to dup my messages? > > > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only > Evo > > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > > useless for me :( > > I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. Because it's some more work, some more tuning? some more disk space. Balsa do it without tricks att all. > > > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by > some > > differnt ways. > > Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you > imply > in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and > I'm > sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security > wise > but they are still options. All proposed by you methods are SYSTEM methods. Is Evo itself able to deal with existing mboxes (in camel part not to use camel_movemail() )? Why I should make 'magic passes' when other programs don't require them? > > > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > > process my IMAP localnet folder. > > Evolution handles IMAP fine... > I'm not doubt about it, Evolution works fine and with mboxes but only purges them after itself ;) I've liked Evo look and feel but until it uses camel_movemail() by default (more clear without alternative) I don't want to use it. Dmitry From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 23:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACC62D1DE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28135; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:16:29 -0500 Message-Id: <984975390.15839.2.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > ˝Đ żÝÔ, 19 źĐŕ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÝĐßŘáĐŰ: > > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > > mail? > > > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail > Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on > /var/spool/mail Okay, I guess I misunderstood you. You're complaining that Evolution sucks all the mail out of /var/spool/mail/$USER by itself, even without the use of a movemail program. I thought you were complaining that Evolution had to use an external movemail program for you (because Evolution wasn't able to lock /var/spool/mail by itself). > > > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) > Fully agree with "not recommended" > > > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > > for > > Evo to import it > So I'll have to dup my messages? Currently, yes. However, we are working on a way so that you won't have to. Jeff From jens@se.linux.org Mon Mar 19 02:33:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from missfunny.se.linux.org (unknown [195.22.75.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5A2BAB1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jens@localhost) by missfunny.se.linux.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J7adC07367 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:38 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Hjalmarsson To: Subject: Sound and X from remote computers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am searching for information regarding the possibility to make GNOME send it's sound to a sound server on a remote machine (when someone on that remote machine logs into a server, with X). Since GNOME comes with esd, I was trying to get it to work remotely, but no luck yet. I made a very small patch (I am no developer, but I do know a tiny bit C) for Enlightenment, which actually worked (amazingly enough), but the same thing for GNOME seems to fail. The source (gnome-libs/-1.2.9/libgnome/gnome-sound.c) contains gnome_sound_connection = esd_open_sound (esound_hostname); which means that this should work, and I tried putting this line above esound_hostname = getenv("ESPEAKER"); Should this be enough? Is there a place where you actually can tell it to use the ESPEAKER variable (which is standard for the apps that come with esound)? Jens From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 08:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A282E17E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04049 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:04:37 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. From: G Annamalai Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello All, I have finally managed to configure my X windows. The X server is working fine now. But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. Virtual 1280 1024 I did this but it didn't help. Can anybody help me? Thanx in advance. Cheers, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 09:12:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428C2E14A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ox-0008Gt-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:51 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ow-00057l-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:50 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JDeZ201240; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:40:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "Suse-Linux-E" , "Gnome-List" Subject: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs etc and start again by hand. Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove Ive already done the rpms etc Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR thanks dids From jacob@ximian.com Mon Mar 19 09:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81702DD3C for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14f0jf-0003L8-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports From: jacob berkman To: Subba Rao Cc: Gnome Users In-Reply-To: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> References: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Message-Id: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000, Subba Rao wrote: > Hi, > > I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services > installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on > to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a > little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that > different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. > I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different > login session, the applets were using different ports. > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: ORBIIOPUSock=1 ORBIIOPIPv4=0 ORBIIOPIPv6=0 jacob -- C-x i .signature From j.parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 11:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk (prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.76.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33E62DDFC for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.85.11]) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14f2Tk-0002XX-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:25:56 +0000 Received: by endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:17:03 -0000 Message-ID: <5FE97DD96380D111821E00805F2720E901E5BA8C@endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk> From: John Parsons To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:16:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Scanner: exiscan *14f2Tk-0002XX-00*fEiZUcrbH9w* Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion One of my RedHat 6.2 server crahsed last Friday, and now I keep getting the following message in /var/log/messages: init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes I am not running gdm locally, but do need to provide X logon for terminal clients. Every five minutes I keep getting the following sort of message on the console: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (5366), but seems to have been murdered mysteriously. "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Can someone help me please, as I am not all that hot with all the X stuff. It was working fine before the reboot on Friday, now it doesn't work at all. Cheers John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ John Parsons Network & Servers Team Leader Surrey Satellite Technology Limited Email: J.Parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Phone: 01483 879278 Ext. 3634 Mobile: 07836 248733 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe010.worldonline.dk (fe010.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.195]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DD82D620 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2JIErB01428; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:14:53 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: Ole Laursen Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:14:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: G Annamalai's message of "19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530" Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. You probably have some lines in XF86Config like Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection [...] The mode lines tells X which resolutions it may use - you can switch between them with Ctrl + Alt + Keypad +/-. The largest resolution will be used as the size of the desktop so if you want a smaller one, simply delete the offending mode. I hope this helps? BTW, the first mode in the list will be used when you start up so unless you like small resolutions, put the largest one up in front as I have done with mine. You could also delete all modes except the one you actually use, but then you lose the sometimes useful ability to quickly "zoom" in by switching resolution with the C-A-+/- combinations. > I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar > question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the > "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. > > Virtual 1280 1024 Didn't know this one, maybe I'll try it one day - I sometimes need some extra space. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe050.worldonline.dk (fe050.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.206]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0A3B2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2734 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe050.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IMFU001056; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:15:30 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:15:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"'s message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as > Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of > keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 19 13:27:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (156-MAD2-X31.libre.retevision.es [62.83.131.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB7C2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01530 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010319192714.A1527@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:15:28PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 2315.28 +0100): > Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with > the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier > to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta > to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding > again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. Yep, it mapped Meta to Rare Symbol. I preffer to have matching hw and config (imagine that you define your keyboard in one place and it is used to config all the required items). If the user knows what is going, no problem at all. GSR From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 13:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D52BAAA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-00035v-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-0006Mc-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JIGSR02808 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:16:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids Reply-To: mail@diddyland.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 but when i try to i get this message 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) *** was found! I Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? thanks dids From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:18:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E52BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6xW020252 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:59:36 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:32 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 16:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1892CED9 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0005aH-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0001XD-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JLQvR05151; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:26:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "chris grierson" , Subject: RE: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:06:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks thats the kind of info im looking for ! regards dids > -----Original Message----- > From: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]On > Behalf Of chris grierson > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:22 PM > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to > remove > > > for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' > for the old version > > assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did > a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this > generally solves a lot of problems. > > otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see > what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. > > you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig > -f ' (assuming has all your library > paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and > running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file > > i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to > manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall > if that was the actual step that solved my problem... > > -chris > > (sorry if this is too basic to help...) > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 > dids wrote: > > > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > > > but when i try to i get this message > > > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > > *** was found! I > > > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and > remove them ??? > > > > thanks > > dids > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From roberto@susq.com Mon Mar 19 17:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from phl-fw-dmz.susq.com (phl-fw-dmz.susq.com [141.162.101.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927CE2CA84 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from trex-12.mds.susq.com by phl-fw-dmz.susq.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:41:33 UT Received: from claymore (claymore.dev.susq.com [141.162.1.43]) by trex.dev.susq.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05484 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: Roberto Moral To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs Message-Id: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Organization: Susquehanna Partners, GP. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. Thank you in advance. -- ============================================================================== == Roberto Moral Denche == == == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == == roberto@susq.com == to go away == == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == ============================================================================== == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == == strictly prohibited. == ============================================================================== From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 22:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F5F2BAF1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19150 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:08:14 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: G Annamalai Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:15:08 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Himanshu J. Gohel" writes: > Hi Anna > > On 19-Mar-01, you wrote: > > -=> But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > -=> an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > -=> all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. > > Is this something as trivial as your window manager presenting you with > virtual screens? Can you turn that option on in your window manager (you Enlightenment -----------------^ > didn't say which one you were using). Oh.. I posted this question here 'cos basically I couldn't tell whether it is gnome related or xfree86 related, but was subscribed to gnome list, only a few days ago. The question that I asked was there in the xfree86 faq (Q.D2). ( http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/#virtual ) I guess I should have read it first. I am sorry if this annoyed anyone. FWIW, I initially had in XF86Config file Section "Screen" ... Subsection "Display" ... Modes "800x600" "640x480" "1024x768" ... I changed the Modes line to Modes "800x600" "640x480" In 1024x768 mode my screen was flickering badly. So removed it, instead of keeping it somewhere in the "Modes". Also I removed the "Virtual" parameter. Now its all working fine. Thanks for all those who tried to help me out. I have one more question, though. Just to make sure I know whats happening. I have depth 8, 16 and 24 in my XF86Config file. Which depth is chosen by default? For me all the commands - "startx" "startx -- -bpp 16" "startx -- -bpp 24" seems to look the same. Well, I guess thats another XFree86 question! Maybe I'll try someother place. But then, if somebody can reply me personally (instead of on this list), I would be happy. Thanks and Regards, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Tue Mar 20 02:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B32CB77 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13718 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28251 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:59:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09932 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: 1.4 for download References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A40@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where can I find binaries or sources to download. I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. JRC -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Tue Mar 20 05:17:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF302BAF1 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF9317B3B; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (jeeves [129.241.56.14]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933917AC3; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havardw@localhost) by jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id f2KAHIl13744; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: jeeves.stud.ntnu.no: havardw owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_Wigtil?= To: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: 1.4 for download In-Reply-To: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jean-Raymond.Chauviere wrote: > Where can I find binaries or sources to download. > I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. Gnome 1.4 isn't out yet, but you can usually find release candidate 1 at a mirror near you at GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/. If that doesn't work, try http://ftp.acc.umu.se/Public/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ H=E5vard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrap=E9 un Fraggle! From lavasani@connect.org.uk Tue Mar 20 06:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea.connect.org.uk (gaea.connect.org.uk [195.188.160.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564292DE7F for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (lavasani@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk [138.253.127.164]) by gaea.connect.org.uk with ESMTP id f2KBODb14279 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:13 GMT From: "M. Lavasani" Received: (from lavasani@localhost) by quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (8.11.1/CONNECT-DTS-3.0D10) id f2KBOCb25691 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 GMT Message-Id: <200103201124.f2KBOCb25691@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Is this the right ordr ? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion looking at the page : http://www.gnome.org/start/installing/index.php3 There is a list of program that needed for Gnome desktop. Most of the program in the list are old (eg the latest stable version of gnome-libs is 1.2.13 but the list recommands gnome-libs-1.2.3 ). Is this for any special reason or just the page has not been updated ?? Any help appreciated. Thanks __Mehdi From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 07:48:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907EF2BA85; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fLYa-0005gE-05; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:12 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.68]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fLYO-1NtrEmC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:00 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00566; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:41 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 really is :) What I can come up with is: - Nautilus - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) - More documentation - Bugfixes ;) - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) - "Fifth Toe" applications package - reorganisation of gnome-utils - ... [gosh, I need help] Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! Thanks a lot. mawa -- schmooz, n.: Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. schmooz collector, n.: Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. From jdub@aphid.net Tue Mar 20 07:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.229]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208142CDC5; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax48-043.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.202.43]) by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2KCuol00705; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:56:52 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A2361D7A; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320235717.L24812@aphid.net> References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. Do mention the menu triangulation code when you bring up GTK+ 1.2.9, it is one of the most wonderful additions to GNOME 1.4. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 17:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48242BF5D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fUxW-0003hQ-02; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:34 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.211]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fUxR-0L7BqaC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA31270; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:31 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Weird Nautilus crash Message-ID: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi people, for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet it crashes everytime: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 #2 0x8070efa in main () I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the last time.) Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? mawa -- [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:01:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721E2C88B for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA29675 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210101.UAA29675@mail3.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:03:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/plain It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (mail5.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D352BD51 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA21014 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: control-center default urls From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:08:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/plain Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:20:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (mail4.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4471F2C852 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA26801 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:25:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:21:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/plain Ok guys last question, I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide? Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ok guys last question,

I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide?

Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12-- From ramiro@eazel.com Tue Mar 20 20:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784C2BD51; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (fw.fateware.com [64.121.110.146]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAIX7600.TPB; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AB8028E.AF5AD48@eazel.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:26 -0800 From: Ramiro Estrugo Organization: Eazel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com Subject: Re: Weird Nautilus crash References: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The best place to post this is nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com. I set the followup to there. This sounds like a serious problem and I would like to help you figure it out. Can you file a bug at http://bugzilla.eazel.com ? Also try to put as much information as possible in the bug report to help someone reproduce and debug the problem. You can also try hanging out in #nautilus on irc.gnome.org and one of the Nautilus hackers can help you debug the problem. -re Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi people, > > for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet > it crashes everytime: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; > > #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 > #2 0x8070efa in main () > > I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my > translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash > down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why > I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the > last time.) > > Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? > > mawa > -- > [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the > "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. > -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Tue Mar 20 21:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793B12BD08 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GV3KW24Q; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list Subject: Best gnome debugging/development environment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From alan.patterson@Nexan.com Wed Mar 21 03:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nx-mail.nexan.com (nx-mail.nexan.com [195.153.150.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B852BA85 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by nx-mail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:38 -0000 Message-ID: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: Alan Patterson To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gnome-terminal Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Embarrassingly simple question. gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? Cheers, Alan Patterson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" gnome-terminal

Embarrassingly simple question.
gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though
I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do.

Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ?

Cheers,
        Alan Patterson

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C-- From Catherine.Roult@idris.fr Wed Mar 21 05:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lumiere.idris.fr (lumiere.idris.fr [130.84.8.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32202DB69 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mira.idris.fr (root@mira.idris.fr [130.84.12.100]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA494101 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from idris.fr (linder@loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mira.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA72466 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:17 +0100 From: Catherine Roult X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Workspaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I use Gnome (I try...) with There are many things that I can't do. So, questions : I would like to use different workspaces to do specific works. 1) Is there a way to give a name to each workspace and to see this name in the "Desk Guide" in panel ? 2) Is there a way to make that a given application is automatically sent to a corresponding workspace ? If you define an application (named TOTO) with its icon and its attached command, I would like to say to it : "occupy, directly when launched, the workspace named "TOTO'S HOME". 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a click in the window properties such as "send this window to workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace and to see this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? Lot of question ? Isnt'it ? Thanks for responses ! C. Roult From gannam@india.dharma.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E82E0DE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14961; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:53:34 +0530 To: Alan Patterson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: G Annamalai Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:00:24 +0530 In-Reply-To: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Alan Patterson writes: > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Login shells would be reading the ~/.bash_profile file if it exists. Non-login shells read only ~/.bashrc. HIH. Cheers, anna -- ``A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams.'' - John Barrymore 1943 From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1D2E155 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13744 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13737; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16456; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:24:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08336; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB89035.5E2F2718@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:49 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Patterson Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The .profile files are read only once at login time. You are confusing with shell session file that are ex=E9cuted at each shell invocation ( interactive or in script) in .profile, define export ENV=3D$HOME/.kshrc and put in it what you want to execute at each invocation. under ksh, you can use the '-p' as in #!/bin/ksh -p if you don't want to read the $ENV file. read the manual for exact names JRC PS: for compatibility do ln -s .profile .bash_profile ln -s .kshrc .bashrc or the inverse ... -:) > Alan Patterson wrote: > = > Embarrassingly simple question. > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > = > Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? > = > Cheers, > Alan Patterson -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 06:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042942BC3E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LBWwf06830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux Message-ID: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr>; from fbellaiche@ntsys.fr on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: > Tommy_T wrote: > > > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > > Slackware > > version of Linux. Is it available? > > Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. > I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's > web site. > Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version > of Gnome. Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the latest stuff. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html Looking at that page, there's even tgz's too. Telsa From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D912E25B for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13966 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13958; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16842; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09776; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB891B6.3D9B8875@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catherine Roult Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Workspaces References: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Catherine Roult wrote: > = > 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a > = > click in the window properties such as "send this window to > = > workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window > = > to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me right click in title bar 'move to' under wmaker > = > 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace = yes under window maker and to see > = > this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? > = I never see that, even with --enable-gnome compiling window maker enlightenment that has it's own panel has this features with zoom effect on opened windows -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD8F2BEE0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCQZt07151 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Panrl Problem Message-ID: <20010321122635.K5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from anthonyg63@hotmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 or thereabouts, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. ... > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? It may be sawfish :) >From http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/problems.html Q: The menu panel (the narrow one at the top) is sitting in the middle of the screen when I start GNOME. A: This may be a sawfish-specific problem. If you are using sawfish, then open the control center and find the options for sawfish. Under Placement you will find a checkbox for Ignore program-specified window placements.. This needs to be unchecked. If this doesn't work, take the longer route provided by Robert Soros on gnome-list: " I ended up logging out and switching to console to edit my ~/sawfish/window-history file... which contained the line " ("panel (type . unframed) (position 0 . 23)) " Editing the file (with 0, 0 coordinates) during the gnome session then logging out was useless as it would just resave the file as upon exiting.. " Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:29:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EF2E315 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCXAB07232 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010321123310.L5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 or thereabouts, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. Most capplets are provided by the control-center package, which needs to be compiled before gnome-core. I don't see a session manager capplet, but I have a session-properties-capplet from that package. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:41:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7292CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCiuq07350 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 release schedule Message-ID: <20010321124455.N5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro>; from leonchiver@xnet.ro on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 or thereabouts, Leon Chiver wrote: > Hi guys, > > does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule > or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? There is a gnome-1.4-list mailing list listed at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list The latest info I see on dates in the archive is this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-1.4-list/2001-March/msg00010.html Since that's the latest, that's your best guide. The answer to your question seems to be "both" :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB122CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCkfj07403 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Message-ID: <20010321124641.O5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jh0u@hotmail.com on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 or thereabouts, ordinary user wrote: > hi, > > I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs > out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an > impossible situation?... This might be better directed to the ximian-hosted lists, but the answer as of a week ago was "potato and woody, fine. sid, um". It may have changed, of course. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D032BEA6 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCtYh07410 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Message-ID: <20010321125534.P5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome-List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from richard@diddyland.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 or thereabouts, dids wrote: > It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in > /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome No. It's down to prefixes. Tarballs default to a prefix of /usr/local/ as is proper for stuff locally compiled on a system. Package managers for different distros (and flavours of UNIX) default to different places. (SuSE goes for /opt.) This is explained in http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html (scattered about over several questions, I admit. Not the greatest organisation in the world in that section, sorry.) > whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs > etc and start again by hand. > Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove > Ive already done the rpms etc If it was all installed via rpms, then rpm -e should do the trick. If you have been adding stuff from tarballs, then I hope you kept the source trees. If so, cd into the relevant directories, and hope someone wrote the magic for "make uninstall" to work (that removes what make install created). > Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by > default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR Whilst running GNOME, try "printenv" to get a list of all your environment variables. "printenv | more" or "printenv | less" is probably useful here, as it can be a long list. I don't know enough about SuSE to know, but I would take a good look at the 'startx' shell script, wherever it is on your system, and particularly the section that deals with "startx gnome". It can take a fair bit of following through scripts to find which is doing or calling what. But at least with shell scripts you can just read through them. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:56:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14652E33F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LD0Dg07441 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs Message-ID: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com>; from roberto@susq.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I don't know whether "Sun ultrasparc 5" means "Solaris 2.6", because I am not a Sun/Solaris user myself. But if it does mean that, then see http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html and the question about "gnome-libs won't compile on Solaris 2.6. It fails with a complaint about Berkeley DB lacking DB 1.85 compatibility". If it doesn't mean that, then see Paul Barnfeather's wonderful wonderful "Building GNOME on Solaris" pages at ttp://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/ I have also seem some discussion about db versions on gnome-devel-list, but it was too hard for me. It will be in the archives for this month's stuff though if you want to look. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:07:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082F2E346 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDAPi07469 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: control-center default urls Message-ID: <20010321131025.S5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url > handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version > gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the > gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? For 1.4 the plan is yes, nautilus and its swanky "render html from the docbook on the fly" trick will be the default for new users clicking on ghelp, man, and info. gnome-help-browser will still be provided though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077542C992 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDBwf07474 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 Message-ID: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ok guys last question, > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > gnome-users-guide? Yes. It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. /me adds another to the todo list. Telsa From snickell@stanford.edu Fri Mar 16 06:41:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F82D48D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GBehY00753; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB1FBC0.552D1827@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:48 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louis Garcia Cc: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus References: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Louis Garcia wrote: > > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when > using nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel > starts. When nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second > and then nautilus redraws the background and places the icons on the > desktop. It doesn't seem to be anything wrong, it just doesn't look > right. > > Anyone have this? This is standard behavior. Non-optimal, looks trashy, but probably not harmful either... cheers, -Seth From egger@suse.de Thu Mar 15 17:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [213.95.15.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B5B2BD08; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B381E349; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:34:52 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:35:46 +0100 (CET) From: egger@suse.de Reply-To: egger@suse.de Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 To: jens@gnome.org Cc: Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar, Jens Finke wrote: >> If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome >> booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the > last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised > me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough > space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is > interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to > join us. I might find some time to demonstrate GIMP for a day if you'd like me to. -- Servus, Daniel From jomamanup@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 20:02:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web11115.mail.yahoo.com (web11115.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847BF2BB7E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.213.164.80] by web11115.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Sandrowicz Subject: GAL To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any suggestions? Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:13:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7FF2BD9F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDCrc11272; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:12:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:13:12 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Simon Budig Cc: Gimp-developer list , , , Subject: Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the > Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk > about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the > booth is too much for me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be > very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to > do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend > at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome > booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to join us. Regards, Jens From sie-mich-auch@gmx.de Fri Mar 16 08:47:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE82BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14duZp-000078-06; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:33 +0100 Received: from p3EE1D306.dip.t-dialin.net (320027360141-0001@[62.225.211.6]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14duZe-0g6PHEC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Panrl Problem From: Marcel Schuster To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:51:00 +0100 Message-Id: <984750661.699.0.camel@Homer.Simpson.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 320027360141-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 +0000, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. > > The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel > option is picked. > > When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in > the middle after restarting X. > > Any ideas? > > At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and > although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does > finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. > > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? > > TIA > > -Ants. Maybe it's sawfish?? If sawfish is your window manager, go to control center -> sawfish window manager -> placement and check that the option "ignore program-specified window placements" is turned off. If sawfish's not your wm, I have no clue Best regards Marcel From tomr@mothra.aceldama.com Fri Mar 16 13:16:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mothra.aceldama.com (mothra.aceldama.com [204.225.122.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971C42CDBF; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tomr@localhost) by mothra.aceldama.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03466; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 From: Tom Rathborne To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Reply-To: tomr@aceldama.com Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>; from Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100 X-URL: http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Simon; On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag > 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting > and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for > me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very > happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be > happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't think I can help with the planning much but I'm trying to come to LinuxTag again because I had so much fun last year. I would be happy to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Cheers, Tom -- -- Tom Rathborne tomr@aceldama.com http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ -- "Don't clap too loudly -- it's a very old world." -- The Player, -- in Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" From dmitry@taurussoft.org Fri Mar 16 22:45:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7002BAE9 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts16-a367.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.4.113]:1044 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:45:33 +0300 Received: (qmail 784 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5351 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Mar 2001 21:12:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:05 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP folder. From louisg00@bellsouth.net Fri Mar 16 17:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (mail2.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E427F2CABC for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-196-20.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.196.20]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA06437 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Default browser From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/plain How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open. Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open.

Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1-- From root@plan9.de Fri Mar 16 17:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout.plan9.de (islay.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.162.92]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840CB2D3A0; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cerebro ([10.0.0.1] helo=mail.plan9.de ident=schmorp) by mailout.plan9.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BP-0004jO-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:55 +0100 Received: from root by mail.plan9.de with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BM-00065z-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316235852.D6431@cerebro.laendle> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com>; from tomr@aceldama.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux version 2.2.18RAID (root@cerebro) (gcc version 2.95.2.1 19991024 (release)) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500, Tom Rathborne wrote: > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > > I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't I'll also come for sure and help where I can and I would even try to organize that if necessary, but I am a total idiot at these kind of things, so it's best NOT to think about letting me do that.... > to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Pleased to meet you again, Mr. Rathborne. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg@goof.com |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | From conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com Sun Mar 18 01:28:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C28E2BF0B for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2I6X1E12174; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:00 -0600 (CST) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Jonathan Gift Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15-Mar-01 Jonathan Gift wrote: > joschi@eds.org wrote: >> Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk >> frontend >> to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write >> such a >> simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome >> development. >> If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that >> would >> be appriciated. thanks! > > It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the > root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. > > root tail gmc can already do this: Select a file, right-click, select View, then choose File/Monitor File in the viewer window. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 18-Mar-01 Time: 00:31:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From cduck@u.washington.edu Mon Mar 19 14:14:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3482BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6tG024199 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:55:16 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:16 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319111716.63131e58.cduck@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> References: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: university of washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From bertsch.13@osu.edu Sat Mar 17 00:37:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from core.greenapple.com (unknown [198.144.72.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EE2D40C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt-006-00180.greenapple.com (IDENT:jonathan@pt-006-00180.greenapple.com [198.144.76.195]) by core.greenapple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27906 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Bertsch X-Sender: jonathan@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list Subject: session save problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. -- Jonathan Bertsch bertsch.13@osu.edu From mmoyles@immunochem.com Sat Mar 17 12:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.auracom.com (mail.auracom.com [216.126.204.211]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C32CDE7 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from idt.burnyeat [165.154.191.88] by mail.auracom.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A2A219670154; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:45:06 -0700 Received: from mike by idt.burnyeat with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14eKtv-000263-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 To: gnome-list Subject: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Reply_To: mmoyles@immunochem.com From: Michael Moyles Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the Ximian pages - Is it still around? Thanks - mike -- Michael Moyles mmoyles@immunochem.com http:/www.immunochem.com I.D.T. Ltd. 23 Burnyeat St. Tel (902) 895-3594 Truro, NS B2N 4P9 Fax (902) 896-7276 Can. From cduck@washington.edu Mon Mar 19 21:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21A42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante36.u.washington.edu (cduck@dante36.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.196]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2K2rfs20998; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (cduck@localhost) by dante36.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA14318; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: "'cduck' Chris Grierson" X-X-Sender: To: Roberto Moral Cc: Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion sleepycat software maintains berkely db, and apparently versions higher than 2.7.7 break all this 1.85 compat business. see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2000-October/msg00509.html not that i have a valid opinion, but why did they make a __db185_open in major 2? isn't one of the whole points of new majors to clear up incompatible API calls? why not use db_open in libdb.so.1 over some new db185_open in libdb.so.2 ? this is actually a question looking for answer. if someone knows, i'd love to hear -chris icq: 24826966 phone: 206.795.4998 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. > > I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode > > I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > ============================================================================== > == Roberto Moral Denche == == > == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== > == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == > == roberto@susq.com == to go away == > == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == > ============================================================================== > == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == > == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == > == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == > == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == > == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == > == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == > == strictly prohibited. == > ============================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca Mon Mar 19 22:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (flash.lakeheadu.ca [192.75.62.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137D42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (IDENT:root@lake1-75.lakeheadu.ca [216.211.1.75]) by flash.lakeheadu.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2K2w0J12579 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:03:05 -0500 From: "John B. Stephens,II" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnorpm & rpm's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. however , i am getting error msgs. like: "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of rpm..." when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i spoke of. any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. From zellert@voicenet.com Wed Mar 21 09:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from unix01.voicenet.com (unix01.voicenet.com [209.71.48.250]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9846F2BAB4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 6987); 21 Mar 2001 14:50:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Terrence W. Zellers" X-Sender: zellert@unix01 To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode Sigh. I just went through this exercise on my laptop. After I checked that sleepycat was up to date with the compatability option I still got that. I then buggered the configure script to dummy out the db185 tests. Then you have to check the Makefiles and make sure that -ldb is in all the library lists. Once the lib is installed, to get the rest of gnome to compile (link actually) you have to edit gnome-config (the executable, wherever it gets put, as I configure with --prefix=/usr it was in /usr/bin) you go to the libs section and add -ldb -- I basically inserted it after wherever I found an "-ldl". Another heads up is that you will need a recent "popt" package (not a gnome package) to get GConf to compile. I'm tempted to put up a page explaining these steps but in reality that pretty much covers the low-lights. -- TWZ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Copyright 2001 by Terrence W. Zellers. All rights explicitly reserved. | | email: terrence.w.zellers@pobox.com www.voicenet.com/~zellert/pub.key | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A means of adding pith or humor to email: patent pending | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snickell@stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 08:53:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.116]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78F72BEE6; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2LDrVv15402; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB8B25D.A5FD3AEB@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:33 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Also: bonobo - component model oaf - activation framework medusa - indexed search framework & daemon Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) > - "Fifth Toe" applications package > - reorganisation of gnome-utils > - ... [gosh, I need help] > > Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! > > Thanks a lot. > > mawa > -- > schmooz, n.: > Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. > schmooz collector, n.: > Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From tim@maths.tcd.ie Mon Mar 19 23:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8E72DFC1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lanczos.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 From: Timothy Murphy To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . I'm running the GNOME that came with RedHat-7.0 . The problems seem to arise equally with Enlightenment and Sawfish. Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From glynn.foster@ireland.sun.com Wed Mar 21 05:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D186E2DB69; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.7]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12194; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ireland.Sun.COM (plat [129.156.238.87]) by ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA05273; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <3AB884F3.1ECC64C4@ireland.Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 +0000 From: Glynn Foster Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) Of course there is the new multi-session hack for gsm ;) See ya, Glynn ;) From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 10:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.245]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCD2D3B0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LFeQW07421; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:30 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681713C4C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:01 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4B3010B6; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Michael Moyles Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010322023916.A464@aphid.net> References: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat>; from mmoyles@immunochem.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 01:54:03PM -0400 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the > Ximian pages - Is it still around? Ximian has little to do with Galeon... Have a look at: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. From veillard@redhat.com Wed Mar 21 10:44:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B032C7FE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12278; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: "John B. Stephens,II" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. a hint at least: issue #1 of rpmfind FAQ http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/faq.html Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Wed Mar 21 11:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barnabe.net (barnabe.net [216.121.96.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719152CDF9 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.endymion.com (www.chalonsursaone.com [216.121.146.240]) by barnabe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28822; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:29:47 -0800 Message-Id: <200103211629.IAA28822@barnabe.net> To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Subject: Re: GAL Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:29:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? AFAIK, libxml 2.x and 1.x was in conflict, but since libxml 2.x is named libxml2, it's OK. You should first install libxml 1.8.? (to replace old libxml 2) and then libxml2 ; you may have to get new releases of apps using libxml2, but you'll be OK for future. p_ From steve@kazbek.ispras.ru Wed Mar 21 11:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stern.sovam.com (stern.sovam.com [194.67.2.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6032D41A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [194.67.37.200]) by stern.sovam.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12131 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:09:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2LG6Rb09835 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid TAA26876; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host kazbek claimed to be kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (pegas [194.186.94.143]) by kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13338 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07853; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:18 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru: steve set sender to steve@kazbek.ispras.ru using -f To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: where is 'db2html' From: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? Thanks. -- Alexander Koptelov Institute for System Programming, Russian Academy of Sciences e-mail: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru icq: 36208499 From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499D2BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LG9Ir26605; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:09:18 GMT Subject: Re: Default browser From: Mike Newman To: Louis Garcia Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> References: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:09:17 +0000 Message-Id: <985190957.18855.1.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500, Louis Garcia wrote: > How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I > click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking > an email I want evolution to open. > > Thank In the control centre under URL Handlers, you can set the program which GNOME uses to launch URLs beginning with the http:/ method. I think you'd need to set it as /path/to/galeon %s Unfortunately, Evolution can't be used in this way yet, mainly because the compose window depends heavily on an Evolution shell being running. People are working on this however. Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:14:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17222BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LFxi723425; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:59:44 GMT Subject: Re: GAL From: Mike Newman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:59:43 +0000 Message-Id: <985190384.18857.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? I understand that recent versions of libxml2 can happily co-exist with 1.8.11 (the most recent 1.x, and the one likely needed by gal). Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:28:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294862BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12544; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:41:41 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012541; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:41:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06444; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:37 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006440; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:25:22 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29413 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03052; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:15 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. -- Gregory From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 21 11:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778F2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14flTA-0002Nh-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Subject: Re: GAL From: jacob berkman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985192100.8079.1.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. you shouldn't be using libxml 2.x in gnome applications yet. jacob -- C-x i .signature From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 21 11:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858E2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.214]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21126; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? From: Bart Kuik To: Gregory "A." Shimansky Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:40:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300, Gregory A. Shimansky wrote: > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of these locations : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources But didn't the configure-script complain about that? Bart From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Wed Mar 21 11:56:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BAFE2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 745 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from du11024.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.11.24]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2LGrS307156 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: >> Tommy_T wrote: >> > >> > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the >> > Slackware >> > version of Linux. Is it available? >> >> Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. >> I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's >> web site. >> Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version >> of Gnome. > > Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my archived sources). Here's my compile sequence: Installed prerequisite libraries: (--prefix=/usr) audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.9 imlib-1.9.9 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gtk-engines-0.12 ORBit-0.5.7 popt-1.6-4 (from RedHat RPM, prerequisite for OAF etc.) Installed GNOME base libraries: (--prefix=/usr) gnomelibs-1.2.13 libgtop-1.0.12 libxml-1.8.11 libghttp-1.0.9 glibwww-0.2 (pre-requisite for gtkhtml) Installed Bonobo & its prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) gal-0.5 libunicode-0.4.gnome oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 gnome-vfs-1.0 gnome-print-0.27 bonobo-0.37 Installed gnome-db (prerequisite for libglade) (--prefix=/usr) libdgda-0.2.3 gnome-db-0.2.3 (--disable-bonobotest) [bonobo test failed, but gnome-db is looking for >=0.29 and there have been multiple API changes since 0.29] Installed GNOME base libraries w/ Bonobo dependencies: (--prefix=/usr) libglade-0.16 gtkhtml-0.8.3 Installed GNOME core: (--prefix=/usr) control-center-1.4.0 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 Installed nautilus prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) [openssl-0.9.6 (ammonite prerequisite) already installed] ammonite-1.0.0 medusa-0.5.0 mozilla-0.8 (binary built on Slackware) scrollkeeper-0.1.4 (--localstatedir=/var) At this point, I postponed Nautilus and worked on some other items. Installed pan-0.9.5 (--prefix=/usr) [now that gnome core is complete] FWIW, I generally used the command: nice ./configure --prefix=/usr && nice make && sudo ~/s/checkinstall My copy of checkinstall is heavily modified from the version generally available, but basically it does a 'make install', copying some standard doc files ala Patrick's practice, and creates a Slackware package (mostly so that I can scan for files in /var/adm/packages). In short, it's *very* doable. There are a few packages that can safely be compiled 'side by side', but most should be done singly in the order listed. HTH > If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian > installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the > latest stuff. Now *THERE'S* a scary thought! ;-) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! A computer does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:58:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 311802BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA12665; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:11:19 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012662; Wed, 21 Mar 01 20:11:06 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06818; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:55:27 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006815; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:54:59 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01120; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03503; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:54 +0300 (MSK) To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? References: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:54:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "BK" == Bart Kuik writes: BK> GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of BK> these locations : BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources Thank you, I found both in unstable directory. Gnome ftp.gnome.org doesn't let me in so I used ftp.yggdrasil.com mirror. I just thought that since I got gnome-vfs from stable directory it shouldn't rely on anything I can't get from a stable directory... Maybe I am wrong. BK> But didn't the configure-script complain about that? It complained about gconf, said nothing about oaf. The gconf error wasn't critical too so configure script didn't stop and I assumed that I can build gnome-vfs without gconf and oaf. It looked like this: .... checking for gconf-config... no checking for GCONF - version >= 0.9... no *** The gconf-config script installed by GCONF could not be found *** If GCONF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GCONF_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gconf-config. checking for t_accept in -lnsl... yes checking for socket in -lsocket... yes ... -- Gregory From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Wed Mar 21 12:16:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464602BABF for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86026; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> To: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' In-reply-to: Your message of "21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300." Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From robin.cull@pace.co.uk Wed Mar 21 12:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from exchange1.cam.pace.co.uk (host-131-80.pace.co.uk [136.170.131.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD742BEE4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchange1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:17 -0000 Message-ID: <1402C4C025C4D311B50D00508B8B74E27E446B@exchange1> From: Robin Cull To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Missing autoconf macros (or something) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to get my configure.in and makefile.am files for a package to compile under GNOME right using the example in the Havoc Pennington GTK+/GNOME Application Development book. When I run my autoconf.sh I get moaned at by automake and configure. I get these messages: Automake: Makefile.am : variable GNOMEUI_LIBS not defined Makefile.am : variable GNOME_LIBDIR not defined configure: ./configure: GNOME_INIT: command not found ./configure: GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS: command not found When I run make I (obviously) get missing headers and linkage problems. I am using a fresh Mandrake 7.2 installation. I have got the gnome-*-devel, gtk+-*-devel and glib-*-devel packages installed. I think I'm just missing the macros but I'm not sure. Could anyone help me out? If I have hit the wrong list, please forgive me and point me in the right place. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- Robin "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to seek permission." - Rear Admiral Dr. Grace Hopper From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 21 13:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1DA2BEF2 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26656 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from a2e5d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.6.46.93) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fnjM-0001OB-00 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010321195312.A5340@gmx.net> References: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com>; from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500, jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: > > >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? > > % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html > stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 Or in debian'sh: apt-get install cygnus-stylesheets All deps are included .-) -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim `-Filemanager / VFU From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 21 14:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F472BCB5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id UAA12256 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:10:38 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdAZyZ4I; Wed Mar 21 20:10:31 2001 Message-ID: <3AB8F8B0.94428D82@ntsys.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:36 +0100 From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > > > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. > >FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by >compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep >things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts >the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday >morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my >archived sources). > [snips] I've just compiled Gnome 1.4.0rc1 from sources on a Slackware 7.0 based box. As far as I've tested, it works perfectly, including Nautilus. And evolution 0.9 too, BTW. Just make sure to use "--prefix=/usr" along with all "./configure". It should work on Slack 7.1 . Ximian's Red Carpet is another story. Getting it to run on a Slackware system won't be a piece of cake... It is also true that slackware users generaly get their stuff from sources (like I do, I must say) rather than packages (like people do on Debian for example). And so getting Red Carpet to run on Slackware distros is probably not a high priority. Fred. From mawarkus@t-online.de Wed Mar 21 15:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6122BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fpOh-00058Z-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:59 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.213.160]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fpOD-0DNcYKC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28155 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Vertigo? Message-ID: <20010321211433.A28152@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. There is, however, no 'vertigo' CVS module. Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of Vertigo code and/or fill me in on details on what exactly this will change? I suppose it'll do everything the old panel does; it will replace the special applet interface with a generalised Bonobo one (controls?), however, and use an adapter control for backward compatibility. What else is there to be said? Thanks, ma"papers need a-writin'"wa -- So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine? I don't think so. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From jacob@trna.ximian.com Wed Mar 21 15:56:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA7F2BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ximian.com (ralph.ximian.com [141.154.95.105]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09540; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:55:54 -0500 From: jacob berkman Message-Id: <200103212055.PAA09540@trna.ximian.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:56 -0000 To: "Matthias Warkus" , Subject: RE: Vertigo? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_unique-boundary-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ------=_unique-boundary-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ----Original Message----- >From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) >in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the >next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose >there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. No, it is pretty much just a code name so far. jacob ------=_unique-boundary-1-- From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 21 17:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3172BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMGQa28155; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103212216.f2LMGQa28155@demai05.mw.mediaone.net> Subject: Red-Carpet + MDK 7.2: Thanks! From: Sean Middleditch To: beta@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:18:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey, I just saw the new Mandrake 7.2 channel on Red-Carpet! Thanks! This is really cool now, I can finally get rid of MandrakeUpdate, and do all my updating from a central program! Hehe! New software and paint fumes mix really well! Not to sound greedy (and not imply that I'm *not*), but when will Evolution Snapshots and Gnome Beta be available? I'm finding myself messing with these a lot. ^,^ Thanks again! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A9A82BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa09194; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14449 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Programer's list? References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so many questions as such on this list. Thanks, DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248D62DE7E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa11732; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15430 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB912B7.9D8B16B6@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:39 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse grab/ungrab problem References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, This happens even in the gnome-canvas test example. If I double click rapidly on a widget, the grab/ungrab sequence seems to go awry. I mean, the mouse cursor does not change back to regular pointer, it remains as a crosshair. Similarly, the application never releases focus of itself. Help? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 17:36:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.232]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE6B2DE93 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMPPo07647; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:25 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABE33C4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2BA6214C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: "David J. Topper" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Programer's list? Message-ID: <20010322092526.F464@aphid.net> References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu>; from topper@virginia.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:44:08PM -0500 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming > issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so > many questions as such on this list. gnome-devel-list... Click the mailing lists link on the front page of gnome.org. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From olau@hardworking.dk Wed Mar 21 17:46:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fetest.worldonline.dk (fetest.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC972CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19146 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: from 61.ppp1-4.hob.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.85.189) by fetest.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LLvQF01520; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:57:26 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> From: Ole Laursen Date: 21 Mar 2001 22:57:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: "James W. Haefner"'s message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? I think this calls for personal opinions, so here you have mine: Emacs. It isn't really Gnome-enabled, though someone (Martin Baulig, I think) was working on it last year - it was a very exciting project, I wonder what happened to it? - but still Emacs is a much better editor than any other integrated thing I've seen. And since you usually spend 95% of the time editing code, it isn't worth sacrificing the editor just because of a more gooey build/debug system. IMHO. If you just want a GUI-enabled debugger, I think DDD is an option, though I've never tried it. > At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? Don't know kdg, but it can't be better than Emacs. :-) -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 22:49:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B12CE45 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA470775 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Gnome confused about window managers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, everything works. Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not running, even when it is. Thanks Daniel From palic@billgotchy.de Thu Mar 22 03:06:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85F2BAF1 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06v-0006z5-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:21 +0100 Received: from dialer200.kel.de.core.tng.de ([213.178.65.200] helo=localhost) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06q-00037F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:16 +0100 Received: from palic by localhost with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14fzzd-0000N4-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: 1.4 beta and nautilus Message-ID: <20010322085849.D1117@billgotchy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Internet: http://www.billgotchy.de pgp2-key: http://www.billgotchy.de/bin/m.asc Fingerprint: EE C8 16 82 B6 BE AE 36 24 41 43 8D BE BC 1C FF Key-ID: 01119ED1 OS: Linux Debian Woody Private-Debian-Site: http://www.linux-debian.de From: Jan-Hendrik Palic Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gnome- users... I have a problem wth gnome and nautilus. Ich have an actuell woody, updated last monday. When I want to install nautilus, I got this: gromitt:~# apt-get install nautilus Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus: Depends: gconf (>=3D 0.50) but it is not installable Depends: libgconf11 (>=3D 0.50) but it is not going to be install= ed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is= to be installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is to be= installed Depends: libgnome-vfs0 (>=3D 0.6.2) but it is not going to be ins= talled Depends: libmedusa0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libnautilus0 (>=3D 0.8.2) but it is not going to be inst= alled Depends: liboaf0 (>=3D 0.6.4) but 0.6.3-0.ximian.2 is to be insta= lled Depends: oaf (>=3D 0.6.4) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Whats going wrong? It seems, that nautilus depends on gnome-libs, which aren't accessable... How can I fix this...? thnx for your help! Jan --=20 One time, you all will be emulated by linux! ---- Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "palic@billgotchy.de" --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBOrmwuIXXtskBEZ7RAQEfUwf+MabAgE8psUbyDToOrbBgnNlQkdeuprVW AV97nlLTjcXSERNgMPzfWtHA3Pks2hHLQ7Jqx54/AaQDWD2FR5r3s0VWP+FSeRVv 5LzvdGBYdDhvwTgBhLM9KbVjr9/aWOUvWtBlOTVZA4U4Ss0/OaOmSGmCD7idfHln 0jRPn6SEzJl2T/5tlhhNVvCe7e40ZRL6fjdLadzrtJ3ib+TpZxg/NajX1XDtnuoZ 5yqnjIvdO9RZ7pdf/5IMlWlfIQzRljuO0XN8JkkF0v11wwMnh9LgbHFnXNCPj1G3 rxhPkp52K+cp4tMZvAsKvpUQixy+F/qyy6EQzhYBDwVYKlw6XEJy5A== =wz+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5-- From dan@eazel.com Thu Mar 22 04:00:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from foodle.localdomain (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA422BB4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by foodle.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2M90xJ28164; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: foodle.localdomain: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Mueth X-Sender: dan@foodle.localdomain To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) The old help browser will still be usable but is deprecated in 1.4 and will go away some time in the future. The help stuff in Nautilus/hyperbola/gnome-db2html2/scrollkeeper is nothing to brag about right now from a user's perspective, but we have layed the groundwork for displaying DocBook/XML documentation and managing documentation metadata. In upcoming releases of Nautilus and ScrollKeeper we will see more user-visible improvements and new functionality such as indexing, metadata searches, user-configurability, access to remote documentation, conversion of document formats by the help browser, etc. Plus, by using ScrollKeeper and the OMF, we are building on a metadata handling system which appears to have the support of the LDP, KDE, and others which will give us compatibility with documents written by other projects in the future. Dan From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 04:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE022DEBA for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.200]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00078; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:08:15 +0100 Message-Id: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers From: Bart Kuik To: Daniel Russel Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 10:04:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > everything works. > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > running, even when it is. > Thanks > Daniel Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Bart From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:42:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109DC2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nwv03195; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:32 -0800 From: George To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598522BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAOP414202 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010322102425.D8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 or thereabouts, joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk > frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking > to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of > gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other > little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! The closest I can remember is logview which is now in gnome-utils. It's written in Objective C, I believe. You need either to be root to run it to monitor certain files, or to make those files world- viewable. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1A2E12D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAVPm14270 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010322103125.E8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay>; from sean.middleditch@iname.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 or thereabouts, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. One situation I've seen all GNOME apps start crawling from startx on is when the networking is broken on my laptop (like, typos in /etc/hosts or the PCMCIA card being in but the ethernet cable being improperly connected). Or not broken, but correct, but GNOME simply not knowing the difference between laptop with card in but no network present and either laptop with no card in or laptop with card in and network up and happy. And the immortal occasion when I used 'pump' (dhcp tool) on someone else's network, came home, forgot about it, and then GNOME whinged because I still had an IP and name server from somewhere in Australia :) I thought it was the network cable and was shaking it madly. > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I ...if it started after upgrading those, sounds likely. I dunno whether the above paragraph helps at all, though? Oh well, it might be useful for someone searching in archives. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:32:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AE2E12F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAZuT14301 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bertsch.13@osu.edu on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 or thereabouts, Jonathan Bertsch wrote: > Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back > in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing > the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going > to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm > not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to a bug in the applet itself. My particular bęte-noire is gweather: it is obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. I would bugzilla it. The "normal" clock applet is actually part of gnome-core, not gnome-applets. Just to confuse matters :) Telsa From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 22 05:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28AB2E116 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA04076; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:51:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Cc: Subject: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) In-Reply-To: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. > > * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the > same corner > * Property dialogs are now immediate effect > * Scrollable long menus > * Foobar has a tasklist menu > * Panels better follow theme > * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact > default for panels > * Per panel maximize avoidance setting > * Nicer applet dragging > * New menu to add launchers to panel > * Support urls in run dialog > * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your > menus are on nfs or something utterly slow > * Can set up a custom menu icon > * New easter eggs > * Lots of bugfixes > * Others I forgot Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. Jens From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:18:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57932BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBM2I14594 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:02 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:01 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's ("only packages with major number <= 3") Message-ID: <20010322112201.H8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is off-topic for gnome-list recently, but it occurs often enough to answer it. Summary: "get rpm-3.0.6, it works for rpms built with either rpm-3.0.x or rpm-4.0.x". On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 or thereabouts, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. This error message has to win a prize for "most cryptic", or "most confusing". rpm is telling you it can only deal with packages built by rpm-3.x.x. That 3 is the "major number" in a versioning scheme. Your rpm on RH6.0 will probably be rpm-3.0.something. There were (in order) rpm-3.0, rpm-3.0.1, rpm-3.0.2, rpm-3.0.3 and rpm-3.0.4. And life was happy. Then there was a big big change in rpm, so rpm-4.0.1 came out. rpm-4.0.x understands rpms built with rpm-3.0.x, but builds things slightly differently. So rpm-3.0.4 and lower has no clue what to do with packages built by rpm-4.0.x. Also, it was a bit hard to upgrade like that :) So that was a bit crap :) It got crazier: because XFree86 4.0 came out at the same time, rpms of it build with rpm-4.0 appeared on the net, people were downloading those, trying to install them with rpm-3.0.x, seeing that error message and thinking it applied to X, not rpm :) Mass confusion. So anyway, rpm-3.0.5 came out with the ability to read (and thus install, upgrade and erase) rpms built by rpm-4.0.x. rpm-3.0.6 came out after that and also has that ability. And that's what you need. So your answer is to download rpm-3.0.6 and install it. If gnorpm starts messing about, the command line syntax is: cd /name/of/directory/the/thing's/in su rpm -Uvh rpm-3.0.6-whatever.i386.rpm (control-D to stop being root when it's given you your prompt back) Then you have something that will deal with packages built with "rpm with a major version > 3". Oh, you might also want rpm-devel-3.0.6. I'm not sure. Upgrade them both at the same time (rpm -Uvh rpm-blahblah rpm-devel-blahblah all on one line). The reason I'm not suggesting upgrading straight to rpm-4.0.x is that part of the changes involved changes to the rpm database, and I recall there is some "correct" way to upgrade, and lots of not-so-correct ways. I simply waited for RH 7.0 and let the automatic upgrade do it for me :) As for gnorpm, you want at -least- version 0.95.2, or version 0.96. You'll find in bugzilla that the possible versions are 0.95.2, 0.96, and "prehistoric". That means "everything earlier". Everything earlier had a lot of things which are now fixed, and bug-reports on those will be met with "upgrade to a current version" at best. So get the absolute latest version you can. I'll note that people building rpms should really do it with 3.0.x to ensure the least pain for users. I'm told this is in guidelines somewhere (Mandrake has such, I believe, and RH also) and I -know- that the Linux Development Platform Specification (interim until LSB is done, at http://www.freestandards.org/ldps/1.1/ldps-1.1.html ) insists on this. I realise this is perhaps information overload, but I am in "get it into the archives" mode today. (Hence the addition to the subject line.) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FA2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBP4614623 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322112504.I8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie>; from tim@maths.tcd.ie on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 or thereabouts, Timothy Murphy wrote: > (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, > eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- > on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:27:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42CC2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBUeu14654 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from steve@kazbek.ispras.ru on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > Hello! > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html I need "db2html" to build some of the help files. What is it and where can I get it? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN539 I have DocBook correctly installed but when I build a package I get errors as the documentation sections get built. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN552 Reading it, I realise that had I tried, I could not have been more unclear in answering the first question. Accurate, non-distro-specific, up-to-date rewordings gratefully accepted. Send 'em to me, to gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, or to gnomefaq@gnu.org Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFD2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBfTN14762 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) Message-ID: <20010322114129.L8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 or thereabouts, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. long list snipped > Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? > Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. > Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we > could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. If anyone is really bored and has time to spare, a really helpful thing they could do is to go through (groan) all the ChangeLogs for packages and hunt for things like this and make a list of user-friendly explanations which can be used in the release announcement. Some ChangeLogs, like Pan's, are brilliant, and explain that "reassigned fooval to no longer return NULL when hitting an overflow exception in the sink plunger" actually means "now pan makes coffee for you -and- does the washing-up". Others, um, aren't :) I'm not sure where you'd send them, though. Perhaps someone would like to volunteer to collate them and feed them to the 1.4 release team in an orderly manner. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:44:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6CD2C87C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBmBv14820 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers Message-ID: <20010322114811.M8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 or thereabouts, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Actually, I've seen the control-center get window managers wrong on nearly every version of Gnome and every distro I've played with :( It's even in (guess :)) the FAQ, although with one of my crappier answers, which just says basically, "control-center is undergoing a rewrite and with luck the new version will improve on this". I haven't seen Gnome actually start the wrong window manager on a restart when I have changed and saved and quit. I have had no window manager often enough to be underwhelmed by this. The wretched thing also highlights one window manager as running and offers me the chance to run the configuration tool for a different window manager; and so on. I don't think it's distro-specific or Gnome version-specific. I've seen it on all versions of RH from 6.0 up, and on Debian woody (or maybe it was potato), and on several releases of Gnome, and with combinations of window managers ranging from just sawfish and twm to enlightenment, windowmaker, twm, and fvwm2. Telsa From flavio@conectiva.com.br Thu Mar 22 06:53:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from postfix.conectiva.com.br (perninha.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E080A2BDBB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from burns.conectiva (burns.conectiva [10.0.0.4]) by postfix.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 27C1316E81 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:58 -0300 (EST) Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (10.0.17.33) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from flavio by barney.distro.conectiva with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14g3e8-0003N9-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:52 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: db2html Message-ID: <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y6PvmTFIYclVmRST" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it,=20 can anyone help me? Thanks. --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjq555MACgkQiRDznl8DCoBPjQCcDrfdd6tTJXOd36ucrlg4RGdp bM8AoITO0gFSQFZ10PDFL5fxurGCCA0D =n4l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST-- From cedric@cpac.embrapa.br Thu Mar 22 08:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE332C934 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpac.embrapa.br (cedric@micro208.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.208]) by caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16827 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:47 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA0C9E.8020307@cpac.embrapa.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:30:54 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?= Lamalle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010105 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with png Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to make a compiled version of gnome 1.2, but I have problems with the display of png files. Here is a short description (without most of out of subject libs and ldconfig after each comp.) of what I've done : ... Compiled and installed libpng1.0.9 (I've tried with version 1.0.5 and 1.0.8 also) ... Compiled and installed glib-1.2.8 Compiled and installed gtk+-1.2.8 ... Compiled and installed imlib 1.9.8.1 (with gmodulized imlib) ... Compiled and installed gnome-libs 1.2.13 ... Compiled and installed gnome-common 1.2.1 Compiled and installed gdk_pixbuf 0.10.1 Compiled and installed gnome-control-center 1.2.2 Compiled and installed gnome-core-1.2.4 +applets, network, gmc 4.5.52, sawfish, etc... When I try to start a gnome-session (or gnome-terminal from fvwm), I got a message like that : error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/gnome/lib/libimlib-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct I then try to compile gnome-libs with --disable-imlibtest and gnome-session was launching, I had icons on the desktop, but not on the panel (only text). I'm using debian 2.2, what am I doing wrong ?? Thx in advance for help, Cédric. From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 08:58:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BFA2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.146]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13605 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:58:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). In my opinion that was a way better implementation, especcially for small screens or to call capplets from outside the control-panel, ie setting the background with rightclicking on the desktop. For every small change you'll get the whole panel now in stead of only the wanted capplet.... I didn't find an option (in ./configure or in gnomecc --help) to get the other implementation back. Does anyone know why this is and if it's coming back in a post-1.4 release? Bart From markforawhile@yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 09:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com (web13105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CC02CC8D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:51:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010322145156.63569.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.188.172.200] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20T.?=" Subject: Gnome Control Center To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, hope this is the right list for this query! I recently updated my Gnome installation using Helix, and now I'm having trouble with the "Control Center" configuration tool. Whichever of the sections on the left I click, the right hand panel stays completely blank. I'm guessing that the Control Center isn't in synch with some other part of Linux any longer. Control Center is Version 1.2.2 under RedHat 6.2. Does anyone know what's going on ? Any help would be appreciated, as this is driving me up the wall ! cheers, Mark. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From gannam@india.dharma.com Thu Mar 22 11:03:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829722CDBE for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gannam@localhost) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20266 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 (IST) From: Annamalai G To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: icon labels. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings to All. I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? TIA. Cheers, anna From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Thu Mar 22 11:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310B42D9AF for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37568; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103221614.LAA37568@ww2.tqstats.com> To: Flavio Bruno Leitner Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: db2html In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300." <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br>, Flavio Bruno Leitner writes : >gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it, >can anyone help me? Somebody just asked this a day or two ago. % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 11:50:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB82BC97 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14g88S-0006IP-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: jacob berkman To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> References: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <985279228.23772.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my > slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in > stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in > separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). i bumped the one for 1.4 to version 1.4 since some things changed, notably the removal of the session-properties capplet and the inclusion of the gnome-vfs mime types capplet. the old 1.3 tree will become 1.5.0 when it comes out... after getting some much needed work done on it. jacob -- C-x i .signature From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Thu Mar 22 12:36:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA485113 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010322092900.04500208@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:16 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Re: Gnome Confused about Window Managers In-Reply-To: <20010322103002.B041D2E140@mail.gnome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Daniel > >Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... > >Bart Good point. I am running 1.2 from Redhat 7. Just to add more detail, other users of my machine can use Sawfish and configure it without any problem. Also, I have tried deleting all the gnome files associated with my account that I could find (~/.gnome ~/.sawfish /tmp/drussel-orbit or something like that), but that made no difference for either problem. I can't just make myself a new account since the names and ids have to match with other local machines. Also, I have no problem with sawfish configuration on other machines which share a home directory with this one and have very similar setups, however the Enlightenment confusion may have started immediately following my first such login to another machine (which did not have enlightenment installed). Thanks. From drifter@outerlounge.de Thu Mar 22 14:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-221.gwdg.de (RAS23-221.gwdg.de [134.76.23.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881F32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2MIrsl09359 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lunalounge.outerlounge.de: nobody set sender to drifter@outerlounge.de using -f To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 (MET) From: the drifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5-cvs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before using it under gnome ? Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) its cemented for me .. > > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . > > How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching > grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and > paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows > does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? In addition to the general X-cut-and-paste-behaviour, there is some nice little applet called clipboard-applet. You can "put something into it" by marking and then pressing button on it; afterwards, if you want to use the last dropped text, it's one left-click and the paste, for previous "drops" it keeps a history accessible by right-clickin'. Nifty little thing that... greets, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.lunalounge.net From itp@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 14:09:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flux (unknown [141.154.95.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E5F2CC57 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from itp by flux with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14gARd-0000CT-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322140825.C531@flux> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000 From: Ian Peters Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > > I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position > but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to > a bug in the applet itself. My particular b?te-noire is gweather: it is > obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. Ahh, but when I was going to CMU this was *so* convenient -- Ian Peters "...it is 5 am and the sun has charred the other itp@gnu.org side of the earth and come back to us and painted itp@ximian.com the smoke over our heads an imperial violet..." From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 15:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0410C2BB40 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MKDp918158 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322201351.B18006@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net>; from drifter@outerlounge.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 or thereabouts, the drifter wrote: > Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > > > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > > hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) > cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: > Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before > using it under gnome ? Excellent question. I apologise, but I can't remember now :) It was a long time ago. I don't even start and stop X enough on this machine to remember whether the workspaces came up this time. (Apparently this X session has been running since the first week in February.) > Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my > gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save > session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. > Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool > and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) > its cemented for me .. I'll investigate this on the boxes I have here, which collectively run various distros with various versions of X, wmaker and GNOME. I do remember messing about with something similar because at one stage I had both wmaker and GNOME trying to do session-management and it all got very silly. Thanks for the tip. Telsa From kh_naba@yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 22:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138D2BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01028 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:21:59 +0530 Message-ID: <3ABACC08.917BA446@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:37:36 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <20010322103003.482A12E148@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > > > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? Try Anjuta C/C++ IDE. http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/. In addition to many other features, it has Gnome apps widzards, integrated debugger, project management and a very sweet editor. :-) -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------- From jverel@home.com Thu Mar 22 23:22:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (cv150607-a.norwlk1.ct.home.com [24.228.1.114]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A632BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from john@localhost) by CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MNNc301571 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com: john set sender to jverel@home.com using -f Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 +0000 From: "John P. Verel" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322232338.A1532@CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com> References: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 11:30:40AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 03/22/01, 11:30:40AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? stylesheets-1.54.13rh-5, on my machine. -- John P. Verel Norwalk, CT From vk_gnome@rediffmail.com Thu Mar 22 23:38:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailweb5.rediffmail.com (unknown [202.54.124.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6D82D3B6 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5056 invoked by uid 510); 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Date: 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (161.114.88.76) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? From: "Vasu Kulkarni V" Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain Content-Description: Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. with ./configure , make , and make install. presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. I am new to this. please give me more details. bye -Vasu Kulkarni. Bangalore(India). _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com From ash@hobbiton.org Fri Mar 23 01:19:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-141.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECC2DB61 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2N6MSF05642 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:27 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no more error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010323012227.A5597@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:41:38AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i figured out the problem. for those curious, there are what's called "ports" from the FreeBSD group. the ports are basically just fancy tarballs that contain patches which allow the tarballed source to compile and run accordingly under FreeBSD. "ports" exist for most of the popular applications and toolkits, etc. and can be located at http://www.freebsd.org/ports austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Fri Mar 23 05:34:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8812E46B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NAbOH21621 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? Message-ID: <20010323103724.A21462@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" References: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com>; from vk_gnome@rediffmail.com on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 or thereabouts, Vasu Kulkarni V wrote: > HI, > i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? > is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. > with ./configure , make , and make install. > presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. > I am new to this. please give me more details. If you mean you have only got gnome-core-1.4.0-tar.gz, then no, I don't think it is. I think it wants at least a new version of gnome-libs and probably of control-center, and those may want new versions of a great many other files. There's a FAQ on compiling GNOME, but its suggested order applies to GNOME 1.2. The details about "what do I do with a tarball?" and "what are prefixes and do I need them?" will be the same, though. Several suggested compile orders have been posted to the gnome-1.4 list as different betas have come out. FAQ's at http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/ gnome-1.4 archives are at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list Speaking from experience, attempting to compile the first beta of what will be GNOME 1.4 took me a day and then I gave up :) If you're new and are concerned about doing bad things to your computer, I strongly suggest that you wait for the final GNOME 1.4 release. RC1 is release candidate 1, which means that we are in theory very close to GNOME 1.4 proper coming out. (Barring disasters, the last date I saw was at the end of this month: gnome-1.4 list is where you'd find updates on that.) It will still be in tarballs initially, but I would put money (well, a penny or so) on a variety of rpms and debs showing up within a week of that, and they're -much- easier to deal with when you're new to things. Telsa From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 07:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve From Markus_Nickels@casa.es Fri Mar 23 07:20:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.casa.es (mail.casa.es [194.69.224.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1522DD95 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.casa.es(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256A18.00492139 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:18:46 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASA From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es To: gnome-list@gnome.org Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:15:16 +0100 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion From toralf@kscanners.com Fri Mar 23 07:33:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1232E4E4 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14gQiM-0000Wj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:45 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: (gdb) where #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () #7 0x80bff8b in main () #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of applets that continually update their display. Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? -- # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 XFree86-4.0.1-1 apmd-3.0final-18 XFree86 driver is "neomagic". - Toralf From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 08:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (www.fmco.com [199.85.124.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B8B2D04B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: id IAA09233; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:30 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B8@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/ -----Original Message----- From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es [mailto:Markus_Nickels@casa.es] Sent: 23 March 2001 12:15 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 23 09:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7A2BB71 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA20576 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:07:07 -0800 Message-Id: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:08:04 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem on my laptop and it's not the panel of gnome's fault. The apm system is probably affecting gnome. I own an IBM ThinkPad 760XD and had the same thing happen to me. I did some searching on google and found kernel level drivers to let linux handle correctly the apm system. Your Toshiba might have the same problem. Also, on my laptop, if I have a pcmcia card in the slot when suspending, the keyboard/mouse stop responding on wake. My workaround for this was to call "cardctl eject" in the suspend scripts for apmd-proxy. Hope this info helps. Good luck to you! Toralf Lund wrote: > I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or > something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: > > When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is > active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of > our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The > screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not > even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), > but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I > attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current > subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), > everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: > > (gdb) where > #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () > #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () > #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () > #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () > #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () > #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () > #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () > #7 0x80bff8b in main () > #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, > argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, > fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, > stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 > (gdb) > > However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only > reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding > panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I > guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing > sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something > to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of > applets that continually update their display. > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? > > -- > # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd > gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 > XFree86-4.0.1-1 > apmd-3.0final-18 > > XFree86 driver is "neomagic". > > - Toralf > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From robkra@gmx.net Fri Mar 23 15:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A6922C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15579 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2001 20:30:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:30:57 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Kraus To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Cant start GTK apps X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0005652802@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.186.142.108] Message-ID: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, X crashes and restarts after I start GTK apps on newly compiled XFree86-4.0.3. (KDE2 works fine; MDK 7.2): A little overview of my installation/problems: $ rpm -V gtk+ Unsatisfied dependencies for gtk+-1.2.8-6mdk: /sbin/ldconfig , libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libXi.so.6 but the libraries are there: # /sbin/ldconfig -v | grep libX ... libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.2 ... libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0 ... libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.4 the files libX11, libXi, libXext are in /usr/X11/lib/ e.g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so and I have made links to /usr/lib and /lib: # ls -l /usr/lib/libX11* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 19:16 /usr/lib/libX11.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 18:18 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* What else do I have to do to be able to start gnome apps? Thank you very much for your answer. robert -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From jg@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 23 15:35:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.pa-x.dec.com (unknown [204.123.2.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E152C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from src-mail.pa.dec.com (src-mail.pa.dec.com [16.4.16.35]) by mail2.pa-x.dec.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA04927; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by src-mail.pa.dec.com; id MAA12623; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Received: (from pachydrm@localhost) by pachyderm.pa.dec.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NKYmg193099; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client bombur.crl.dec.com, user jg) To: cmevoli@afsa.com Cc: Toralf Lund , GNOME mailing list In-Reply-To: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with behind its back. On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. Solution: Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, and move back to the X server at the end of resume. On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make this the default behavior is beyond me... But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage your hardware may have with power management). - Jim -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From drifter@outerlounge.de Fri Mar 23 17:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-235.gwdg.de (RAS23-235.gwdg.de [134.76.23.235]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A462BA99 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NLxYd30694 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 From: the drifter To: GNOME mailing list Subject: gdm-indirect-problem Message-ID: <20010323225934.A30653@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: the drifter , GNOME mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi ! While trying to deploy gdm in indirect-mode to get a look at the chooser, I got ############ error-message ############### gdm_xdmcp_decode: Could not create XDMCP buffer! ############ error-message ############### Can anybody enlighten me what this means (how it's caused) ? Thx in advance, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Fri Mar 23 20:18:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24922BAFB for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2O1IdH07499; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: Annamalai G Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Mar 2001 17:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > Greetings to All. > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. If that's not what you mean, please clarify. --Ben From landie@concentric.net Fri Mar 23 20:58:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AD2BB33 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA13303; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:45 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts005d39.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.236.243]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA21164; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:08 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: Robert Kraus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: quickq? Message-Id: <20010323201808.257b5f17.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> References: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when installing rc1 from source is there an order to follow From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 04:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CE22BB74 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23996; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:32:49 +0530 To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: icon labels. References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530 In-Reply-To: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ben FrantzDale writes: > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > Greetings to All. > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop background color. To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 distribution) and the enlightenment wm. Hope you could help. Thanks for the effort. Cheers, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 06:22:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9392BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm8B-0007lM-06; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:51 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.217.69]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm85-1PX3EeC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:23:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I have SUSE7.1 running and compiled the whole gnome.beta package after removing all SUSE created gnome. Gnome runs but there are some problems. Adding a laucher to panel as gnome-terminal or xterm works, but after restarting gnome they are lost. Lauching the background-properties-capplet with gnomecc never works, but if I first launch gnomcc and then background-properties-capplet via comand line the capplet works, Sound system doesn't seem to work. At startup gnome gives some warnings like that: SESSION_MANAGER=local/buero1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/756 SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - Succeeded GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108160 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1280 hbeg: 1424 hend: 1680 httl: 1688 vdsp: 960 vbeg: 960 vend: 970 vttl: 1019 flags: 0 Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0x81841B0) ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 598 (gsm_protocol_new): assertion `GNOME_CLIENT_CONNECTED (gnome_client)' failed. Sitzungsmanager konnte nicht kontaktiert werden Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GsmProtocol' ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 642 (gsm_protocol_get_current_session): assertion `protocol != NULL' failed. waiting for X server to shut down Has anyone an idea if this is typical at this state or what I did wrong during installation ? achim From landie@concentric.net Sat Mar 24 06:30:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335602BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id GAA20558; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:05 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts032d34.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.25.94]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id GAA29775; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:51:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Message-Id: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when trying source for RC1 is there a specific order to install them? -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sat Mar 24 07:05:00 EST 2001 From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 06:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BAC2DB53 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29215 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:26:18 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: startx file From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:32:56 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello all, This question is not related to gnome, but I thought I could clarify my doubt here itself. Please ignore this mail if not interested. In the startx file I see something like if [ "x$serverargs" = x ]; then serverargs="$1" else serverargs="$serverargs $1" fi I dont know why there is/was such a need. I feel that this if condition can just be replaced with serverargs="$serverargs $1" Am I right or did I overlook something? Also, one of the patterns in the while loop is (do refer to the startx file, if you have got the time and patience) /''*|\.*) Can anyone help me know why there are two single quotes there in that pattern? I am not saying its not required, but I dont know what its doing there. I apologize for asking such an off-topic question. But the problem is I am subscribed to so many mailing-lists and non of them are related to shell scripts and I am trying to avoid subscribing to new mailing lists. Hope you all would understand :-X Thanks for your time. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 07:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE72BDA8 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnX1-0004Yb-08; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:35 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.219.217]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnWy-2J2SJMC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> Cc: landie@concentric.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032413533700.02082@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Am Samstag, 24. März 2001 13:51 schrieben Sie: > when trying source for RC1 is there a > specific order to install them? I compiled in this order: glib-1.2.9 gtk+-1.2.9 audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 ORBit-0.5.7 libxml-1.8.11 oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 imlib-1.9.9 gnome-libs-1.2.13 libunicode-0.4 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gnome-print-0.27 libglade-0.16 gnome-vfs-1.0 gal-0.5 scrollkeeper-0.1.4 gtk-engines-0.12 libgtop-1.0.12 libghttp-1.0.9 gtop-1.0.13 xalf-0.7 rep-gtk-0.15 xml-i18n-tools-0.8.1 bonobo-0.37 bug-buddy-2.0 control-center-1.4.0 gtkhtml-0.8.2 gnome-guile-0.20pre2 ggv-1.0-beta1 ghex-1.2-beta1 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 gnome-audio-1.4.0 gnome-media-1.2.0 gnome-pim-1.3.2 gnome-python-1.4.0 gnome-user-docs-1.4.0 gnome-utils-1.4.0 medusa-0.5.0 ammonite-1.0.0 nautilus-1.0 gdm-2.2.0 sawfish-0.38 achim From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sat Mar 24 13:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E502D2DBD2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OIUqa26020 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Control Center - 1.3.90 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.24.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Message-Id: <985458780.17174.6.camel@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Um, I was wondering - shouldn't the theme selector be under the Look and Feel section of the Control Center, instead of Desktop? That would make a bit more sense. I am using 1.3.90 (from Eazel website), so this might already be changed in the 1.4 package, but I can't get most of those to compile (known errors, from what I've read, so I'm waiting for the next RC/full release). Just my $.02 -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sat Mar 24 16:31:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48F2BCB2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2OLVJH25036; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: G Annamalai Cc: Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530, G Annamalai wrote: > Ben FrantzDale writes: > > > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > > Greetings to All. > > > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. > > Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have > a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background > _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop > background color. > > To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 > distribution) and the enlightenment wm. > > Hope you could help. > > Thanks for the effort. Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent text on the desktop, but there is one that does. --Ben From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 24 19:26:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCA52BF73 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2P0PMM09387; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:25:22 GMT Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Mike Newman To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: G Annamalai , Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 25 Mar 2001 00:25:21 +0000 Message-Id: <985479922.5650.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels > on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, > but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to > Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version > of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent > text on the desktop, but there is one that does. Support for transparent icons and text labels goes back quite a way in gmc I think, but setting it up isn't obvious. Open a gmc window (such as "Home Directory"), select Settings->Preferences, and on the Desktop tab select "Use Shaped Text" Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 02:42:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952442BDD0 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:41:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:43:13 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list (maybe in a different gnome list?). It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory Thanks... From datazone@airmail.net Sun Mar 25 05:19:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from covert.iadfw.net (covert.black-ring.iadfw.net [209.196.123.142]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A6E2CA5C for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from scab.caprolite.org from [207.136.36.203] by covert.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with smtp for gnome-list@gnome.org sender: id ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) To: moparkix@bigfoot.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: datazone@airmail.net Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz X-Mailer: Gmail 0.7.0pre4 (http://gmail.linuxpower.org) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow and post it here. > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > Thanks... > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 25 08:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 887082BAAA for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29884 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Received: from r1251.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.23.235) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:52:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: , Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it should fix this issue. Jens On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 datazone@airmail.net wrote: > as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something > really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a > "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the > buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes > into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is > something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix > it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a > "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow > and post it here. > > > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > > > Thanks... From len@philpot.org Sun Mar 25 14:29:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFBE2BBDD for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010325192848.XNNQ24883.io@vulcan> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:28:48 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Items missing from gnome menu - How to fix? Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:30 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032513343000.01245@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've just apparently lost my session preferences, including several items in the system part of the gnome menu. The most important I'd like to restore are the Logout and Lock Screen choices, but even the Help choice is gone. The user stuff I know how, but not these. I'm able to add a button for each to the panel, but not the menu. This is on gnome 1.2 under RH7. I'm logged in as user 'len', but since it's my machine, I have full access if needed. Here's what led up to it: I had an apparently runaway process (fetchnews, maybe?) that caused the root filesystem to fill up completely. I found an 800MB+ ~/.xesession.errors and several hundred megs in /var/spool/squid. I was able to get the usage back down where it should be, but it never showed up (df -k), so I decided to reboot. Maybe I should have run 'sync'? Anyway, when it tried to shutdown squid, the system hung, so I had to hit the button. Now that I'm back up, usage is back to a normal level, but I've lost my gnome session preferences (or some of them). Another interesting thing is that if I su to root in a terminal and run gnomecc, it starts, but I get these kind of errors: root] ~ # gnomecc ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'background-properties-capplet'. aborting... ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'screensaver-properties-capplet'. aborting... Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 730 (gtk_container_remove): assertion `widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file gtk-multiview.c: line 440 (gtk_multiview_set_current): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1508 (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(unknown)' to `GtkWidget' Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3493 (gtk_widget_get_style): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. etc., etc. With each applet I choose from gnomecc, instead of the applet, I get a new instance of gnomecc. However, if I login as root, it runs normally. At any rate, I need to get the logout/lock and whatever else I'm missing from the system part of the meny added back. How can I do this? Am I better off just deleting or renaming ~/.gnome* and starting over, or will this even accomplish anything? Since I'm on the Internet with a cable modem, just out of paranoia, what are some common checks I can do to see if anyone gained access? Thanks. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 19:22:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDE62D2EC for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:22:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:23:32 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > Hi, > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > should > fix this issue. > > Jens > Ok, I must be really dense. I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd the resulting spec against the one found in the gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. From rob@ZOOstation.cc Sun Mar 25 21:23:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ZOOstation.cc (203-109-159-60.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.159.60]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7C2DC3F for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rob@localhost) by ZOOstation.cc (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NJAaK01435; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:10:36 +1200 Message-Id: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Subject: File Dialog From: Rob Brown-Bayliss To: GNOME List Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more useful as a users recent directory list. I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. -- Rob Brown-Bayliss ---======o======--- www.ZOOstation.cc From toralf@kscanners.com Mon Mar 26 01:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3C2E14B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hQqI-0007Cm-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABEE6DA.DFA5C3A5@kscanners.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Gettys Cc: cmevoli@afsa.com, GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your > display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering > with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with > behind its back. > > On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing > the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. That's what I've been thinking all along, but what strikes me as really odd is that I've not been able to reproduce the problem with a simple X session, or even GNOME without a menu panel or a panel "sliding in". > > > > Solution: > > Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, > and move back to the X server at the end of resume. > > On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this > automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe > recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make > this the default behavior is beyond me... I forgot to tell that I tried that earlier, but it caused but the X server would crash just after the switch back from the VT. Again, this seems strange to me, as this never happens if I change back and forth by hand (i.e. via Ctrl+Alt+), or even if I switch to a virtual console before suspending, then let the apm script change back. > > > But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage > your hardware may have with power management). > - Jim - Toralf From atounkara@nomade.fr Mon Mar 26 02:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183472BE87 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nomade.fr (127.0.0.1) by mail.libertysurf.net (5.1.053) id 3AA3431E0003BE88 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:36:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:36:14 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: SunOS and graphic cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "atounkara@nomade.fr" To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 47.162.85.36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've chosen to install gnone under Sun Solaris 5.7, but it seems to have some problems with the colors (limited to 256 colors) How can i display information about my board under gnome ? ------------------- L'e-mail gratuit pas comme les autres. Pour cr=E9er votre adresse : http://www.nomade.fr/courrier/ouvrir.asp NOMADE.FR, pourquoi chercher ailleurs ? From jens@eknif.de Mon Mar 26 02:40:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 500C12DE43 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24909 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Received: from 213-21-58-14.access.surf-callino.de (213.21.58.14) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:41:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 moparkix@bigfoot.com wrote: > > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > > > Hi, > > > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > > should > > fix this issue. > > > > Jens > > > > Ok, I must be really dense. > > I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out > gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd > the resulting spec against the one found in the > gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the offical cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to this mail so you can test it out. 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I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on every check. Has anyone else seen this? Is there an alternative to the gnome-core Mailcheck when using an IMAP server? -- Toralf Lund +47 66 85 51 22 Kongsberg Scanners AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.kscanners.no/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) From jaka@activetools.si Mon Mar 26 04:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A242BF3B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378517282; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:07:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A213A22; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:11:19 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > every check. make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a lot. regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From adam@bobomobo.cwru.edu Mon Mar 26 04:59:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5342DB65 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id EAA00911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 From: adam morley To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326045904.A831@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc>; from rob@ZOOstation.cc on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. yes. i like this idea. i have often wondered why gnome doesn't have it. those who have used windows 2000 (others too) notice the left hand dialog with "mycomputer" etc. it would be cool if we could have this, and make it configurable up the ying yang. > > > -- > > Rob Brown-Bayliss > ---======o======--- > www.ZOOstation.cc > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- thanks adam From adltorre@terra.es Wed Mar 21 18:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E572E001 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.terra.es ([213.99.219.44]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GAKM3600.12U; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:01:45 +0100 From: Antonio de la Torre To: veillard@redhat.com Cc: "John B. Stephens,II" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321170144.A521@nono> References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 16:44:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.21 16:44:06 +0100 Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version > of > > rpm..." > > > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > > spoke of. > > > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. I had the same problem as you. The first time i tested nautilus (i haven't tried anymore) i installed the rpm (i think it's 3.0.5 version) package provided in Eazel's page for red hat 6.2 and i could use gnorpm with no problem. I think this is the url: http://www.eazel.com/download/download_rpm Good luck! -- _______________________ Antonio de la Torre http://www.nonoweb.f2s.com adltorre@terra.es icq #19771138 From chris@scary.beasts.org Wed Mar 21 17:46:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.18.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31272CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19329 invoked by uid 501); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Evans X-Sender: To: jacob berkman Cc: Subba Rao , Gnome Users Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports In-Reply-To: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001, jacob berkman wrote: > > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? > > yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in > either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: > > ORBIIOPUSock=1 > ORBIIOPIPv4=0 > ORBIIOPIPv6=0 All GNOME-1.2 packagers, AFAIK, have opted for these safe defaults (fondly we recall the massive flame wars ;-). Including: - RedHat 7.0 - Ximian GNOME - Debian, so I'm told Perhaps the original poster is a RedHat6.x or other GNOME-1.0 user? Cheers Chris From m0par@home.com Wed Mar 21 17:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585162BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:18:55 -0600 From: Booboo To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? Reply-To: m0par@home.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001, gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) > Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org > Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? > > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or > directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or > directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. > -- > Gregory > oaf and GConf ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ From luciano@xmaster.scazzons.scz Thu Mar 22 15:41:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xmaster.scazzons.scz (ppp-1-220.21-151.libero.it [151.21.220.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845B32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from luciano@localhost) by xmaster.scazzons.scz (8.11.2/8.8.7) id f2M8HkY13638 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:45 +0100 From: Luciano Boschi To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal Message-ID: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Reply-To: luckylux@freemail.it References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from gannam@india.dharma.com on mer, mar 21, 2001 at 12:30:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Alan Patterson writes: > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. In preferences dialog: use --login so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell -- Luciano Boschi ** member of PLUG: Prato Linux User Group ** http://www.prato.linux.it/ ( /~lboschi/ ) ** member of Dark Skies Italian Fan Club ** http://www.darkskiesworld.com/dsfc/frameset.htm From louisg00@bellsouth.net Wed Mar 21 19:12:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D12D418 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-197-82.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.197.82]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA18095; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103220008.TAA18095@mail0.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/plain On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Ok guys last question, > > > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > > gnome-users-guide? > > Yes. > > It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in > it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although > it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. > > /me adds another to the todo list. > > Telsa > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed. Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 
On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote:

> > Ok guys last question,

> > 

> > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing

> > gnome-users-guide?

> 

> Yes.

> 

> It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in

> it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although

> it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum.

> 

> /me adds another to the todo list.

> 

> Telsa

> 

> _______________________________________________

> gnome-list mailing list

> gnome-list@gnome.org

> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed.

Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n-- From saperei@baitaca.ipen.br Thu Mar 22 10:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from baitaca.ipen.br (baitaca.ipen.br [200.136.52.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD162BCDC for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.ipen.br (IDENT:saperei@[10.0.8.26]) by baitaca.ipen.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12383 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:26 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA1615.90667208@net.ipen.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:17 -0300 From: Sergio Anefalos Pereira Organization: IPEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with mouse pointer X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody ! It is my first time in this list and I am a beginner in Linux systems. Unfortunately I am having some problem and I have no idea how to fix it. I'm using RedHat 6.2 and a PS/2 mouse. When a changed the screen resolution from 600x400 to 800x600 using Xconfigurator, the mouse pointer disappeared and what I have now is a white square of 2 x 2 cm. It moves exactly like the mouse pointer and it works like it. The upper left corner activates links and icons. But it's impossible to work with this square. I have tried to change the mouse (to serial one) and reinstall it. In text window mode, it seems to work well, but in the xwindow mode it is terrible. The only thing that I wouldn't like to do is reinstall the Linux. I have many programs and other stuff. So please, does anyone could help me ????? Thank you for your attention, Sergio From justinb@tricord.com Mon Mar 26 07:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from idoru.tricord.com (unknown [64.240.27.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06932DC1A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from justinb@localhost) by idoru.tricord.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03317; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 From: Justin Banks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15039.15527.522457.309028@idoru.tricord.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 (CST) X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: justinb@tricord.com X-Supreme-Numerical-Value: Bleen To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: function key <-> mouse button bindings X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello - I couldn't find this in the FM, and I'm not quite sure how to do it. What I'd like is to map F4 so that it'll paste from the cut buffer into xterms. I know this should be easy, I just can't quite get it. I'm running core 1.0, but an upgrade is on the map, as soon as I can find the time. Thanks much, justinb -- Justin Banks Tricord, Inc. justinb@tricord.com "Sorry I am off-topic, but OpenNT is the 2nd best oxymoron I've ever seen. Right after Microsoft Works." (Jacek Pliszka in comp.emacs.xemacs) From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 26 08:31:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE502E27A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04531; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:03:31 +0530 To: luckylux@freemail.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> From: G Annamalai Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:10:05 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Luciano Boschi writes: > > Alan Patterson writes: > > > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > > In preferences dialog: use --login > so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell Actually the best thing to do is to put all your customizations in your .bashrc file and source it from .bash_profile file. .bash_profile file is read only by the login shell and the .bashrc file is read by every (bash) shell. Maybe just have a look in the bash man/info page. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Mon Mar 26 09:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C012BB41 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.166]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18511; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:51:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Rob Brown-Bayliss Cc: GNOME List In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:50:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. > > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, and in my opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be very useful. A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Bart From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 26 10:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3682BEE0 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2QF6Ds22381; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: An Apology From: Mike Newman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:06:12 +0100 Message-Id: <985619172.21469.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Everyone, I want to apologise for a flippant and thoughtless comment I made on #gnome yesterday, concerning recent events at Eazel, Inc. E-mail received since the event has reminded me that sarcasm, and indeed my very warped, very British sense of humour do not translate well to IRC. The comment was ill-judged, and no offence was intended. I'd like to extend sincere apologies to anyone who I've offended or angered. ...and now back to your regularly scheduled programming... Humbly, Mike Newmann -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mawarkus@t-online.de Mon Mar 26 10:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5AC2BCB6; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hYx8-0007QG-02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:42 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.158.12.114]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hYwt-2HORAOC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:27 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11080; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion +++ Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 +++ Bart Kuik e-mails me. Film at 11. Reply right now, after the break. > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, Yes. > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. > A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, > Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with > extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency > between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file requester. I don't know what became of the project. I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. We should not repeat other people's errors. mawa -- CO2 | >< - FUEL HERE | | LS-L ------' ROYAL +-------+ +------+--+ | +----+ SPACE | DON'T | | CAUTION | HARD ,--------' | DANGER: NAVY | STEP | +---------+ POINT B| SIG-29-42 | NNTP C/1897 +-------+ From moparkix@bigfoot.com Mon Mar 26 12:59:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24CD2BB23 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:00:52 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: [New spec works--Thanks]Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the > offical > cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to > this > mail so you can test it out. > > Jens > Thanks Jens. It works here. From bathd@valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au Mon Mar 26 18:13:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DB2DCD4; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from valpro (valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.87]) by firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA22297; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:48 +1000 From: "David T. Bath" Reply-To: David.Bath@edipost.auspost.com.au Organization: EDIPost, Australia Post Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:46 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> In-Reply-To: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Subject: Re: File Dialog MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032709134600.01151@valpro> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tuesday 27 March 2001 01:12, Matthias Warkus wrote: > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. A couple of things they have got right are 1) Multi-file select is trivial 2) The files, once selected, are displayed QUOTED, to stop confusion between embedded spaces and filename delimeters. --=20 David T. Bath - bathd@edipost.auspost.com.au +61 3 9204 8713 (w) 0419 316 634 (M) From miguel@erandi.helixcode.com Mon Mar 26 19:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from erandi.helixcode.com (erandi.ximian.com [141.154.95.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DC2CA46; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by erandi.helixcode.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11383; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:51:52 -0500 To: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> From: Miguel de Icaza Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: mawarkus@t-online.de's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now Miguel. From mchamp@texas.net Mon Mar 26 21:57:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBFB2CE0C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net [209.99.60.5]) by mw2.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R2uuf05745 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:56:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: Problems removing items from Gnome system menu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am having a lot of problems just trying to remove some of the items in the Gnome system menu. I completely removed the Applications folder using gmenu, but I still see it on my menu panel. How can I get rid of these applications that are sticking around? They don't show up in gmenu (as root) at all. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Champagne, Software Engineer Capital Institutional Services, Inc. hm: mchamp@texas.net wk: mchampagne@capis.com From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 01:55:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD7FC2BDB7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 999 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r925.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.22.163) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for any hints. Jens From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 02:10:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DD82DF1D for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7528 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r1322.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.24.52) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:10:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a hires version of the gnome logo exists, which one can use for printing? Thanks for any pointers. Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Tue Mar 27 02:14:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84D2D4A4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hnfQ-0006me-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:23 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaka Mocnik Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Toralf Lund wrote: > > > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > > every check. > make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a > lot. Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... - Toralf From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 05:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CD2BDB1; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08839; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:55:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271055.MAA08839@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 12:54:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500, Miguel de Icaza wrote: <---> > Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an > optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now > It's only there if you select the 'list view' (small icons with text beside them) as far as I can remember..... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 06:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414B2BF70 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10670; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271142.NAA10670@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Hires printable GNOME logo? From: Bart Kuik To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 13:40:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200, Jens Finke wrote: > Hi, > > does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in > .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we > really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for > any hints. I only have one as .xcf, but I don't know where it came from, so I putted it on my homepage: http://www.rendo.dekooi.nl/~kuik/logo-gnome.xcf.bz2 It's a 1320x1500px bzipped xcf with four layers (bg, text, foot, foot-shadow), hope that's enough :-) Bart From A.J.Molenaar@xirion.nl Tue Mar 27 07:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from arseen.xirion.nl (arseen.xirion.nl [194.178.60.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089E02D40C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from technetium.xirion.nl (technetium.xirion.nl [194.178.60.122]) by arseen.xirion.nl (8.9.3/ROU-HKA) with ESMTP id NAA00785; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:49:07 +0200 Received: by technetium.xirion.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Arjan J. Molenaar" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: RE: File Dialog Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik says: > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and should be preserved IMHO. Ideas? Regards, Arjan From kilaru@netcontinuum.com Tue Mar 27 07:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from skilaru.netcontinuum.com (unknown [203.200.58.165]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15862CE0C for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcontinuum.com (IDENT:kilaru@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by skilaru.netcontinuum.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05756 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 From: Satish C Kilaru X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------19785FA4E684E22358569750" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list Thanks in advance Bye Kilaru --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="kilaru.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Satish C Kilaru Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kilaru.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kilaru;Satish C tel;work:91-80-8411438/9 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:kilaru@netcontinuum.com org:NetContinuum version:2.1 email;internet:kilaru@netcontinuum.com title:Software Development Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;NetContinuum ltd =0D=0AUnit No. 7, 2nd Floor, Innovator,=0D=0AITPL ;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India x-mozilla-cpt:;16608 fn:Satish C Kilaru end:vcard --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750-- From fabrice.colin@muscat.com Tue Mar 27 08:52:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sithonia.muscat.com (sithonia.muscat.com [193.131.74.132]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4232CE23 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from muscat.com (red.muscat.com [193.131.74.121]) by sithonia.muscat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13643 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC09A87.C66DE1F9@muscat.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:49:59 +0100 From: Fabrice Colin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <20010326170516.69DCA2D289@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I > don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file > requester. I don't know what became of the project. > > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. > > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. > > mawa Some months ago, somebody posted on this list a link to a library that patches/replaces the default file dialog. I find it most useful and this is actually what I use at home. But I am unable to remember its name or its URL... Maybe the person who posted it originally is reading this and could refresh my mind ? Fabrice -- "If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does." -- Groucho Marx From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 09:46:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0732BDC0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hukD-0007Ou-04; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:49 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.167]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hujb-1sLbzFC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:11 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22889 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Need German-language Nautilus screenshots Message-ID: <20010327154735.A22659@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, as you might know, due to a strange bug, Nautilus does not work on my system. I need some screenshots of it, however, and it's very unlikely that Eazel will fix the bug before the paper deadline (April 2nd). This one goes out to all the German-language guys here: Can someone of you do a couple of screenshots of what you consider important aspects of Nautilus 1.0? Please use a German locale and don't include any Eazel logos or other corporate identity. Thank you very much, mawa -- Nipple Mountains | Fucking Creek, Virginia | Sugar Tit, Tit Butts | Tickle Cunt Branch, Virginia | Kentucky Teton Mountain | Coldass Creek, North Carolina | -- mid-1800s' U.S. placenames From federico@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 10:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (du-148-221-119-218.prodigy.net.mx [148.221.119.218]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBDA2CBBE for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15870; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Message-Id: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-mantra: masochism, not policy To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" writes: > pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > > (file type not resolution) > > Try "man xsetroot" for info. > > But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, > cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters > would give you an image in root window placed as you want). Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Federico From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 10:54:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673C2CEDE; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23292; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:54:34 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271554.RAA23292@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: RE: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Arjan "J." Molenaar Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200, Arjan J. Molenaar wrote: > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts > to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference > they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans > were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the > wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly > like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and > should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? > Something based on the NeXTstep fileselector should indeed be the best (I assume the Wings / WindowMaker one is an exact clone). Small (360x320), with minimal mouse movement and not too much options. But going up in the directory structure (back to root) is a hell, coz you have to use the horizontal scrollbar with the scrollbuttons in the left bottom, while your mouse-pointer is in the right top side of the window. Everybody makes mistakes, and it's VERY uncomfortable if the interface 'punishes' you for making them. I didn't figure out where a button or something similar must be placed, but I know there must be a better way to do it. I think it's best to put the "recent files" in a virtual folder. At opening the window there must be 3 choices in the left-hand selection-box : home, recent, and the standard working-dir of the app (ie, $HOME/files/nameofapp) That's as far as I see the perfect fileselector. I ain't a interface-expert, I can't even hack a gtk+ app or whatever, I'm (still) just a user.... Hmmm.... nice.... the apple-like taskmenu of the gnome menu-panel (gnome-core 1.4.0) crashes (and restarts, good work! :) ) if I want to open it if I have the WindowMaker configger WPrefs.app opened with a dialog of the fileselector. I found a bug in a stable-release. gee. I'm gonna submit it. :-) Bart From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 11:15:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A522E0FF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hw7v-00078A-03; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:23 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.19]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hw7N-1Y9tMOC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:14:49 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07104 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph in Gnumeric. Or am I mistaken? mawa -- It is a common characteristic of all democracies that intelligence is so highly regarded as to exempt the holder from the cares of office -- major@pyrmania From famrom@idecnet.com Tue Mar 27 11:26:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp4.eresmas.com (unknown [62.81.160.201]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA412DC49 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship ([62.83.23.149]) by smtp4.eresmas.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAV71Y06.KDX for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:27:34 +0200 Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01831 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com>; from federico@ximian.com on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:47:29AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" which magically means that GNOME can be used from scripts or CLI too ( forbid!). Or the reply was of "GNOME is only clicky clicky" kind? :] BTW, there should be a --no-gui or --from-script or something like that, cos --init-session-settings does not sound nice, IMHO. As well as access to tile modes and other settings, cos until then, other commands win in script mode. GSR From jacob@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 11:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7F2DC7A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14hwW5-0002rd-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:40:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Bitmap format? From: jacob berkman To: Guillermo "S." Romero / Familia Romero Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985711221.10891.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. > > Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet > --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" does the --init-session-settings work multiple times? on some capplets, they acquire an X atom or something when they start up which causes them not to init their settings if run multiple times. jacob -- "I ain't no monkey, sho' cain't climb no tree." -- Robert Plant From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:08:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CEF2BCA2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27063; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric From: Bart Kuik To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:06:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > in Gnumeric. > > Or am I mistaken? > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD262D3B8 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27749 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:21:42 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? Bart From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 15:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132C2BA85 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19721; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:01:44 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already there) - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is quite complex): installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] --debug - print out debugging information (useful) --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - look discussion about fontmap files --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need at least one afm + one pfb to create font) fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) should be given by --assignment option. Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): installer/gnome-font-install \ --debug \ --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ --fontmap-path=./fonts Fortunately: This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up correct installation process in postinit scripts. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > Bart > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:27:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117EE2C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26836 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202731.26835.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:27:31 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DCF82C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26857 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202801.26856.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:01 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57E22C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BF2BAAF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06792; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:46:27 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: some newbie questions. From: Bart Kuik To: Peter Berthlin Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:45:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of the Control Center > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:53:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF07B2DFCF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07245; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:53:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: Lauris Kaplinski Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks! The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the canvas used by Gnumeric? grtz, Bart On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > Hello! > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > there) > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > quite complex): > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > look discussion about fontmap files > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > should be given by --assignment option. > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > --debug \ > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > Fortunately: > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > Best wishes, > Lauris Kaplinski > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > Bart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 16:21:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7E2BEE0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07268; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:21:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272121.AAA07268@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 23:20:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! It is not a bug, or if, than the bug of X itself. Gtk canvas (gnumeric) has to use X fonts, antialiased one (print preview) uses font outlines directly. But antialiased canvas has other problems, so it is unpracticable for gnumeric. The situation will become better, if gnome will move to X render, but that will take some time. Sometimes gnumeric display will become better, if you reorder your fonts in X/xfs configuration file. Gnome-print uses first X font with correct style and size for Gtk canvas display - so if scalable fonts are before bitmap ones, the scalable ones will be used. >From my xfs config file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Thanks! > > The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do > you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very > crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the > canvas used by Gnumeric? > > grtz, > Bart > > > On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > > Hello! > > > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > > there) > > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > > quite complex): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > > look discussion about fontmap files > > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > > should be given by --assignment option. > > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > > --debug \ > > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > > > Fortunately: > > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > > > Best wishes, > > Lauris Kaplinski > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From trow@trna.ximian.com Tue Mar 27 17:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C52BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from trow@localhost) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28019; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 From: Jon Trowbridge To: Bart Kuik Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327170122.A21095@trna.ximian.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Kuik , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > > in Gnumeric. > > > > Or am I mistaken? > > > > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You > have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not > reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just > remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... This is correct. I don't know what the precise plans are, but the bonobo-enabled gnumeric should be packaged sometime post-1.4. When this happens, the main "entry barrier" to using Guppi with Gnumeric (i.e. the need to build gnumeric from the sources) will have been removed. -JT From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 17:30:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-161.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BFE2BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RMX5s18911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:45:11PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > the Control Center > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from the main config dir) and look for section that starts out __ACLASS __BGN __NAME DESKBINDINGS then find the config lines that look similar to: __NEXT_ACTION __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL __ACTION __A_SHOW_MENU "named ROOT_2" and delete those five or comment them out or change them, whatever. > Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's > the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works > perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, > like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that > conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big > E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... > > Bart austin From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 18:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-49.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D882BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RNNI729083 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:17 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327182317.A28836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:33:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Austin hall wrote: > on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > > the Control Center > > > > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? > > edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from > the main config dir) and look for section that starts out > __ACLASS __BGN > __NAME DESKBINDINGS > > then find the config lines that look similar to: > __NEXT_ACTION > __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" > __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS > __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL oops, "__MODIFER_KEY __CTRL" won't be there. that's what i did to fix the problem in my own configuration that I copied the example from. austin From shochat@acm.org Tue Mar 27 19:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC22BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S0kaU15205; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AC134BF.2080606@acm.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:47:59 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010326 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satish C Kilaru Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Instructions can be found here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list It's at the bottom of the page ("To change your subscription...") Satish C Kilaru wrote: > Hi All > > Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list > > Thanks in advance > > Bye > Kilaru > From stefan.mattauch@post.rwth-aachen.de Wed Mar 28 01:51:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from desktop2.home.de (s4m222.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.222]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA3D2BDD0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.rwth-aachen.de (IDENT:a@desktop2.home.de [127.0.0.1]) by desktop2.home.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2S6s9j01297 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC18A91.8D0B9DC1@post.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 From: Stefan Mattauch Reply-To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Arjan J. Molenaar" wrote: > > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some > attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how > much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about > it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current > file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ > style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like > the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice > feature and should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? Some idea I have is coming form the Acorn-Desktop. I don't wether someone knows these machienes or not, doesn't matter in the end anyway. But there file-selection was quiet simple, because they used the DRAG&DROP mechanism to the end. Just drag a Icon (mime-type) of your file to the place where it should be. Small, simpl and effective!! Editing of the filename or type was possible too. There could be additional things BUT not to much. For creating a directory you should have a good working directory-viewer (gmc, nautilus ... ;-)) (or something new ?)) Stefan Mattauch From jaka@activetools.si Wed Mar 28 03:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BBD2D433 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB037282; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A2398D; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AC1A1E8.29DD6CCB@si.tlan> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:33:44 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: Jaka Mocnik , GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time > back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but > I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... no, there is no such bug in bugzilla. I couldn't find it, anyway... regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 03:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.91.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E52CE82 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04356; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:56:32 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:12:26 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Takeshi Aihana , Murali Kumar , k_anjuta@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, Anjuta 0.1.4 has been released. I am sorry it's a bit late, but that's because I the got deadline on the deadline date! Anjuta does not yet use the Bugzilla for its bug reporting/fixing, so I am reporting the changes here. Anjuta 0.1.4 has be targeted as the bug fixed and more stable stable version of Anjuta (without any feature addition) keeping in mind the release of Gnome-1.4. We have even skipped and shielded Anjuta 0.1.3 from gnome-1.4. because we wanted stable version of Anjuta to be with gnome-1.4. The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the users having old glade from generating project. 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. 7) Debugger now takes program args. 8) Added japanese translation file. 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Follow the following links to get Anjuta 0.1.4: ----------------------------- * Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ * Anjuta Download: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/download.html * Anjuta Screen shots: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/scrshot.html -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Honi soit la vache qui rit. ------------------------------------------------------------- From cardiel@gmx.ch Wed Mar 28 07:39:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 287192CE37 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21887 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Received: from h55p105-2.delphi.afb.lu.se (HELO strych7) (130.235.187.181) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 From: cardie To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian on slackware? Message-Id: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.61 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. cardiel From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 28 07:52:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9DA2DDDF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-13.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@[195.7.143.173]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12099; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200103281252.OAA12099@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Ximian on slackware? From: Bart Kuik To: cardie Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 14:51:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... Slackware also isn't in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... Bart On 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200, cardie wrote: > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > cardiel > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jik@foxinternet.net Wed Mar 28 13:15:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8E62D2BF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:14:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > From: cardie > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... And it isn't needed to install programs..... > Slackware also isn't > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. From philippedoucet@hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:18:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1112BB19 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:18:15 -0800 Received: from 24.157.72.219 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.157.72.219] From: "Philippe Doucet" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bash script question. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6AFB2A0:01C0B7BB] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion



I was wondering if someone coul help me. I"m writting a script in redhat 6.2 with bash.

I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a command that will put a white space between each letters of the word.

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From reinhard.mueller@bytewise.at Wed Mar 28 14:34:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from email03.aon.at (WARSL401PIP5.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C292BA9A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5561312 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Received: from n816p010.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO bytewise.at) ([62.47.45.234]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC23D08.F48B9ED2@bytewise.at> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:36 +0200 From: Reinhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Organization: BYTEWISE Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Doucet Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bash script question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Philippe Doucet wrote: > I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a > command that will put a white space between each letters of the word. try: cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g this also puts a whitespace in front of the word. You can remove that by doing cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g | sed -e "s/^ //" but I'm sure there are more elegant ways for doing the latter. BTW I don't see anything gnome-specific about this problem :) -- Reinhard Müller BYTEWISE Software GmbH A-6890 Lustenau, Enga 2 http://www.bytewise.at From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 28 14:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E682B2BE1B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2SJvda03379 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack Message-ID: <20010328205739.D1248@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net>; from jik@foxinternet.net on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > From: cardie > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > installer?. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: You can download pre-rolled tgzs from [1]Poland, or get the [2]binary rpms or [3]source rpms from the Red Hat directory at [4]our ftp site, and install by hand with rpm. Or you can convert them to slack packages with rpm2tgz. And, in a brave trick of hackery, you can fool the graphical installer into thinking you're a Red Hat user. The command: echo "Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)" > /etc/redhat-release has been reported to make the installer work, although you're likely to have difficulty with one or another dependency somewhere. 1. ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/packages/helix 2. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/ 3. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/SRPMS/ > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P > I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. Eh? Ximian just says "here's how to try, but we don't support Slack". Where did Red Hat come into this? I think the GNOME hackers who have never worked at RH might be a little offended at the idea that RH developed all of GNOME. > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... It isn't needed if you want to compile from scratch. It isn't needed if you're using the GNOME packages off Slackware 7.1. It's probably not needed if you grab the rpms or debs and run alien (dunno). It is needed by the Ximian installer though. > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same > guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something > that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". And http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of Slackware was discussed. Which is exactly one week ago. For future reference, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ is a search interface for all the GNOME lists hosted at gnome.org. Telsa From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 28 16:21:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D553C2BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 17978925 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC25639.DD4F7BA3@megapathdsl.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:23:05 -0800 From: Miles Lane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac26 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Have you folks discussed Microsoft HailStorm? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion http://www.microsoft.com/net/hailstorm.asp From landie@concentric.net Wed Mar 28 22:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD42BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA13431; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:48 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from mail.concentric.net (ts009d48.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.237.204]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA20002; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.concentric.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386), from userid 500) id ED5EF38507; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Cc: beta@helixcode.com;;;, suse-list Subject: nautilus Message-ID: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? gnome what, i have helix gnome installed -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Wed Mar 28 22:05:00 EST 2001 From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 23:47:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3582E0A6; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01907; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:12:51 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC2C107.8808B9C5@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:48 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: gnome-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org, linux-india-programmers@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org, anjuta-announce@lists.sourceforge.net, anjuta-list@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> <001a01c0b78e$68d1e8c0$f5616c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." wrote: > Does Anjuta support C++ yet? last I downloaded it, it did not support C++. > If not do you have an rough estimate as to when it will? > That was what I've been afraid of when I skipped Anjuta 0.1.3 from Gnome releases. Actually, the changes I have given is for Anjuta 0.1.4 *wrt* Anjuta 0.1.3. Since, Anjuta 0.1.3 was not announced officially for Gnome (It was announced as the Alpha release for the developers only), I am giving the ChangeLog of Anjuta-0.1.3 *wrt* Anjuta-0.1.2 (which probably is the version you are using right now. The list is a bit long. :-). New in Anjuta 0.1.3 (wrt Anjuta 0.1.2): --------------------------- 1.=> Anjuta now integrates Scintilla editing component: Automatic syntax hilighting (using lexers). Code folding/hiding . Linenumbers/markers display. Text zoomming. Text autocompletion Automatic indentation and indentation guides ... and much more. 2.=> Dynamic Project Management: Anjuta no longer uses the templete based project management. Provides project configuration. Added two more modules in project management: (Help module and Translation module). Added BONOBO support and BONOBO application widzard. Support for C++ prjects. 3.=> Java style Properties management: Now uses Java style properties management. Which makes it highly configurable, both from distributor's and user's side. 4.=> Supports for Other languages added: Java, Perl, Python, LaTeX, ... and others can be user configurable. 5.=> On-Board command editor: Facilates customization of commands used for compiling, building and execution. 6.=> Provides Hilite style editor: Used for custumizing Syntax hiliting style. 7.=> More inteligent messaging system: Now error messages (or messages in general) can be browsed using goto Prev/Next message, goto start/end of block and goto matching braces. 8.=> Bookmarks management: Anjuta has now supported Bookmarks management. 9.=> Debugger: Now breakpoints can be toggled Onboard. Added Run to cursor. Fixed some earlier bugs. 10.=> Added Two more toolbars: Browser toolbar for browsing messages, bookmarks and code blocks. Format toolbar for easy formating of code statements. 11.=> Application GUI: Smarter and more informative status bar. Improved memory to remember Application GUI configuration between sessions. ---------------0-------------------------------- > > > The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: (wrt Anjuta 0.1.3): > >-------------------------------------------- > > > > 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the > > users having old glade from generating project. > > > > 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. > > > > 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. > > > > 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. > > > > 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. > > > > 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. > > > > 7) Debugger now takes program args. > > > > 8) Added japanese translation file. > > > > 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Postmen never die, they just lose their zip. ------------------------------------------------------------- From chuck@fiu.edu Thu Mar 29 00:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from spn25c0.fiu.edu (unknown [131.94.68.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F092D3A2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fiu.edu ([129.37.230.177]) by spn25c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.03.00 201-232-128 license 840fca18751889914c07c5419b2f6990) with ESMTP id <20010329053903.IHNG19388.spn25c0@fiu.edu> for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500 From: Chuck Organization: FIU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Where are my Icons ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 01:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D941E2BD01 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T6XwH18326; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Ben FrantzDale To: Chuck Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist --Ben On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Thu Mar 29 02:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ultra.dsea.unipi.it (ultra.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76052BB47 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dsea.unipi.it (IDENT:coppelli@ssdmw.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.253]) by ultra.dsea.unipi.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2T7Gg616975 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200 From: Alessandro Coppelli Reply-To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14smp i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem with pager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi to all. I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) when start "startx" I obtain ------ Desk guide Alert Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not running a gnome compliant window manager. Gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper desk guide operation . ------- I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) Where is the problem ??? Alessandro From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 29 02:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC672C8C7 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.243]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01602; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:08:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200103290708.JAA01602@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Bart Kuik To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: Chuck , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 09:06:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you have a menubar on top of the screen, you can get the tasklist by clicking in the right side of the menubar. The Apple style. If you want a Windows-style taskbar, leftclick on the panel where you want to have it -> panel -> add to panel -> applet -> utility -> tasklist Bart On 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist > > --Ben > > On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 02:18:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438622BAC2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T7IkH19455; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:18:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Problem with pager From: Ben FrantzDale To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> References: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 23:18:48 -0500 Message-Id: <985839528.5919.4.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200, Alessandro Coppelli wrote: > > Hi to all. > > I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) > > when start "startx" I obtain > ------ > Desk guide Alert > > Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not > running a gnome compliant window manager. > Gnome support by the window manager is strongly > recommended for proper desk guide operation . > > ------- > > I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. > > I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and > can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) > > Where is the problem ??? > > Alessandro It looks like you don't have a window manager running. As you may know, the X Windows system needs a program to do with Windows and MacOS do on their own--put a titlebar on windows. If you can, run gnomecc, go to the ``Window Manager'' section and select a window manager (such as Sawfish) then hit OK. All should be well... Out of curiosity, what does your /home/username/.xinitrc file say? --Ben From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 12:05:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 181BA2DC6C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from 63.193.165.34 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:05:12 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman , gnome Cc: , suse-list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to nautilus-list@eazel.com. John From jik@foxinternet.net Thu Mar 29 13:16:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AE82BAFB for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC37CAA.75678081@foxinternet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:19:22 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome on slack References: <20010329170517.4C81F2DC73@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > _-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: xiniman on slack > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > > From: cardie > > > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > > installer?. > > http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: Yeah, the polond site doesn't seem to respond....little too far away me thinks. In fact it never responded during this whole letter. > > The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken > directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those > as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. > Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant > "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". Well download.gnome.org looks exactly the same as the rest of the mirrors. We have some packages in stable and other packages in unstable. packages in unstable require packages in stable and some programs which are not even at this site. Since all distros have 1.2 afaik, and most of the packages being developed for gnome right now require bonobo....it is pretty pointless messing with stable. When I downloaded gnome from that section and took it home on CD I got there and found that I didn't have the "unstable gnome", I had a few semi-related unstable programs. Sometimes the configure file knew I had the wrong package....many times it didn't....there is no list of packages that these programs depend on (in README you can usually find the things you need to compile a program...not so with gnome programs).... Even after I downloaded ALL of stable and unstable I found I did not have all of gnome! I had to go hunt down other packages at redhat.com and freshmeat.....which is just rediculous for an integrated system. So these things need to happen 1. all files that are needed to set up gnome need to be in a single directory...one for stable the other for Beta or alpha. Sure there will be some redundancy, but so what....this makes your system easier to use. 2. All programs in gnome should specify in the README all of the other programs that need to be installed before it....this is common practice I don't know why gnome developers aren't doing it. 3. Why are there so many core components to gnome NOT in gnome-core???? When I install something that says *-core I expect that I have the base system installed, what is left are *optional*, it is that way with KDE, it is that way with gnustep....why is it not so with Gnome? > > > And > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html > contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs > on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of > Slackware was discussed. Yes, I saw that....in fact that will clarify my point....you have to go to a mail list to get directions to compile Gnome....even if you know what your doing. Gnome IS the hardest system I have ever seen to compile, there are so many standard things just not done here. That is why I said it appears it was done on purpose....thinking back to other difficult compiles (old Wine, DosEmu, XFree86 the first time) all of them had good documentation and directions for the compile and setup procedures.....even for alpha trees. Yeah, KDE sucks.....but I think Gnome could take some lessons from KDE when it come to source packaging! From jfonde@fr.inter.net Thu Mar 29 18:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from clever.visp-europe.psi.com (clever.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC62BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip56.velizy2.pub-ip.fr.psi.net ([154.15.21.56] helo=jfonde) by clever.visp-europe.psi.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ilWx-0004Gj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:08:39 +0200 From: Ondedieu JF Reply-To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Organization: Particulier To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Normal case icon names on desktop Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into Times-like NORMAL. Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. Could some body help me ?? Thanks -- --------------------------------------------------- JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU jfonde@fr.inter.net --------------------------------------------------- From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 18:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B912BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA22841; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts006d16.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.28]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA17967; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion here is the error completely hope you can help loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes checking if gcc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool loading cache ./config.cache checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes checking for orbit-config... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes checking for orbit-idl... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl Determining mount system properties: checking for setmntent... yes checking for endmntent... yes checking for mntent.h... yes checking for sys/mnttab.h... no checking for sys/vfstab.h... no checking for sys/cdio.h... no checking for /dev... yes checking for /vol/dev... no checking for /vol... no checking for /etc/mnttab... no checking for /proc/mounts... yes checking for /proc/1... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for unsetenv... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for asm/vm86.h... yes checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes checking for FT_Init_FreeType in -lfreetype... yes checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... yes checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no checking for xpcom... yes checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in -lgtksuperwin... no checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in -lgtkembedmoz... no checking for Mozilla... no checking for bzread in -lbz2... no checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gnome-config... /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes checking for additional GNOME modules... *** gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better is required. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > > > > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication > somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? > > Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to > nautilus-list@eazel.com. > > John > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 18:05:00 EST 2001 From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 19:19:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA5B82BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-63-193-165-34.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.193.165.34] by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:19:28 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman Cc: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in this line: > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library you're missing. John on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > here is the error completely hope you can > help > > > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for a BSD compatible install... > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for working aclocal... found > checking for working autoconf... found > checking for working automake... found > checking for working autoheader... found > checking for working makeinfo... found > checking whether to enable > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > no > checking host system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking build system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > (cached) yes > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > /usr/bin/nm -B > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking for object suffix... o > checking for executable suffix... no > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > -fPIC > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > -fno-exceptions ... yes > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > -static > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > yes > checking whether the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > libraries... yes > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > output... ok > checking how to hardcode library paths into > programs... immediate > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > option to reload object files... -r > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > Linux ld.so > checking if libtool supports shared > libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... > yes > checking whether to build static libraries... > no > checking for objdir... .libs > creating libtool > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > -E > checking for a BSD compatible install... > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for esd-config... > /usr/bin/esd-config > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > checking for orbit-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > checking for orbit-idl... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > Determining mount system properties: > > checking for setmntent... yes > checking for endmntent... yes > checking for mntent.h... yes > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > checking for /dev... yes > checking for /vol/dev... no > checking for /vol... no > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > checking for setenv... yes > checking for unsetenv... yes > checking for putenv... yes > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > -lfreetype... yes > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > yes > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > checking for xpcom... yes > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > -lgtksuperwin... no > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > -lgtkembedmoz... no > checking for Mozilla... no > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > checking for glib-config... > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gtk-config... > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gnome-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > John Sullivan wrote: > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > landie@concentric.net wrote: >> >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 >> what are they referring to? >>> >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed >>> >> >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > sounds like a miscommunication >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > 1.2.9? >> >> Also, you're more likely to get a > knowledgeable answer if you post to >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. >> >> John >> >> > From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 20:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC682BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA03830; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:22 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts007d20.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.80]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA29744; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does not find it On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in > this line: > > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library > you're missing. > > John > > on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > here is the error completely hope you can > > help > > > > > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for working aclocal... found > > checking for working autoconf... found > > checking for working automake... found > > checking for working autoheader... found > > checking for working makeinfo... found > > checking whether to enable > > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > > no > > checking host system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking build system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > > cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > (cached) yes > > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > > /usr/bin/nm -B > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking for object suffix... o > > checking for executable suffix... no > > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > > -fPIC > > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > > -fno-exceptions ... yes > > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > > -static > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > yes > > checking whether the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > > output... ok > > checking how to hardcode library paths into > > programs... immediate > > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > option to reload object files... -r > > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > > Linux ld.so > > checking if libtool supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking whether to build shared libraries... > > yes > > checking whether to build static libraries... > > no > > checking for objdir... .libs > > creating libtool > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > is a cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > > -E > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > > checking for esd-config... > > /usr/bin/esd-config > > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > > checking for orbit-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > > checking for orbit-idl... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > > > Determining mount system properties: > > > > checking for setmntent... yes > > checking for endmntent... yes > > checking for mntent.h... yes > > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > > checking for /dev... yes > > checking for /vol/dev... no > > checking for /vol... no > > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > > > > checking for setenv... yes > > checking for unsetenv... yes > > checking for putenv... yes > > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > > -lfreetype... yes > > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > > yes > > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > > checking for xpcom... yes > > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > > -lgtksuperwin... no > > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > > -lgtkembedmoz... no > > checking for Mozilla... no > > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > > checking for glib-config... > > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gtk-config... > > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gnome-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > > John Sullivan wrote: > > > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > > landie@concentric.net wrote: > >> > >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > >> what are they referring to? > >>> > >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > >>> > >> > >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > > sounds like a miscommunication > >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > > 1.2.9? > >> > >> Also, you're more likely to get a > > knowledgeable answer if you post to > >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > > > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 20:05:00 EST 2001 From mchamp@texas.net Thu Mar 29 20:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6C2E274 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net [209.99.92.152]) by mw3.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2U1Fei21645 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:15:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:28:36 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: How do I delete menu items? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in it. Thanks! Mike From michaelv@cox-internet.com Thu Mar 29 23:41:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B42BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.192.193]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010330044007.RNKL25449.io@cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:40:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop From: Michael Thomas To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.29.09.06 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:46:38 -0600 Message-Id: <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus prefrences. Hope this helps. On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > Times-like NORMAL. > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > Could some body help me ?? > > Thanks > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 08:46:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1C02BBE7 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-168.aculink.net [204.118.157.168]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UDkma07829 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id GAA24664 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301347.GAA24664@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Keeping Terminal Open Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is it possible to keep gnome-terminal open after it has automatically executed a program with --execute? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 11:07:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DABF2E01D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-133.aculink.net [204.118.157.133]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UG81a18676 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id JAA06936 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Blocking Access Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From olau@hardworking.dk Fri Mar 30 12:36:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4792BACE for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from 35.ppp1-1.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.35) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2UGBdB01281; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:11:39 +0200 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: nautilus References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> From: Ole Laursen Date: 30 Mar 2001 18:11:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Landy Roman's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does > not find it Do you have the gdk-pixbuf-devel package too? You probably need that to compile anything pixbuf related. BTW, please cut out some of the citation when you answer - duplicating the entire message is superfluous and it makes it harder to follow a thread (thus enlarging the risk that people will just ignore the message). -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 30 16:06:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zephyr.host4u.net (zephyr.host4u.net [216.71.64.66]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4331D2BB19 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by zephyr.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20706 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:03:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3AC4F3C7.6824B986@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:59:51 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: gnome core's References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i understand that gnome has some "issues" with core's........sometimes when I start into gnome desktop even not starting an app yet.....my HD spins out of controll...okay well you get idea :)...and sometimes doesn't stop for several minutes......this troubles me...why does it do this is there a probable cause or just something thats being addressed or my particular configuration since installing...... i heard on another list i think it was about this that someone else has this going on and wanted to ask if there was anything I could do for now to help minimize this waste of HD useage :).. thanks :) lee -=== From bob@thestuff.net Fri Mar 30 16:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ida.net (mail.ida.net [204.228.203.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674B12BCA5 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5of9.H.TheStuff.net) (208.141.171.197) by mail.ida.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Subject: Re: xiniman on slack From: Bob Smith To: Noah Roberts Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Mar 2001 15:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <985990383.22561.0.camel@5of9.H.TheStuff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, its posible that its due to the fact that since slack has no real package management system (no, tarballs arent packages), that slack users should be use to compileing. If they didnt like compileing, they wouldnt use slack. Probably the real reason is that it would take considerable extra time to make slack tarball packages because slack is so different from the other distros. RPM or DEB is very common amung all distro's. Slacks tgz's are not. On 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800, Noah Roberts wrote: > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > > From: cardie > > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... > > > Slackware also isn't > > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... > > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he > plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From dmcglone@ameritech.net Fri Mar 30 17:43:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0F2BAB6 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([64.108.99.60]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010330224350.EWKH7459.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@default>; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> From: "David M." To: , References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> Subject: Re: Blocking Access Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:42:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion don't give them the root password. David M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SoloCDM" To: "Gnome-List (Request)" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Blocking Access > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? > > Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing > list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. > > ********************************************************************* > Signed, > SoloCDM > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:54:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9DE2BA99 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V13gC31288; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:41 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commander code (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a constant defined as this: #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #else #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #endif Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc source hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting ? My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; But I could be wrong ... If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The color is customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Michael Thomas wrote: > If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled > by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the > theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop > "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus > prefrences. > > Hope this helps. > > On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > > Times-like NORMAL. > > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > > > Could some body help me ?? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC2DDF1 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V18sC31317; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52E25.99F32FB4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:53 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Champagne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How do I delete menu items? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Search in /usr/share/gnome/apps. Some are here. Some others seems to be dynamicaly rebuild at run time (the ones that are absolutly mandatory for panel to run ...??? ). Have a look in panel code to be sure. Michael Champagne wrote: > There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when > I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted > my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in > it. Thanks! > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From knghtbrd@galen.magenet.net Fri Mar 30 21:59:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from galen.magenet.net (63-224-228-227.customers.uswest.net [63.224.228.227]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47D2BC2D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by galen.magenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D9513F8; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 From: Joseph Carter To: Remi Cohen-Scali Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop Message-ID: <20010330185926.B3265@debian.org> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM>; from Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux galen 2.4.2-ac26 X-No-Junk-Mail: Spam will solicit a hostile reaction, at the very least. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200, Remi Cohen-Scali wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commande= r code > (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a consta= nt > defined as this: >=20 > #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*= ," \ > "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #else > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ > "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ > "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #endif >=20 > Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc sour= ce > hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting= ? > My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; > But I could be wrong ... > If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The = color is > customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Color's easy. Font is a source hack only. Further proof that gmc is evil beyond belief. --=20 Joseph Carter Free software developer "Yes, your honour, I have RSA encryption code tattood on my penis. Shall I show the jury?" --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: 1024D/DCF9DAB3 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 iEYEARECAAYFAjrFSA4ACgkQj/fXo9z52rMhrwCfdsmqmRV6+d8TF6b5TrRoCWVG dI0An1DXT92xcoP7VkQoiLW5QzgAuGwy =kr1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From deedsmis@aculink.net Sat Mar 31 12:58:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3344D2BCBC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-98.aculink.net [204.118.157.98]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2VHwfg07800; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from aculink.net (IDENT:redneck@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net [192.168.20.1]) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) with ESMTP id KAA12204; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:12 -0700 From: SoloCDM Reply-To: deedsmis@aculink.net, gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: "Gnome-List (Request)" Subject: Re: Blocking Access References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." stated the following: > > don't give them the root password. I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SoloCDM" > > > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From larry@marso.com Sat Mar 31 13:13:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from max.worldcontrol.com (unknown [206.112.124.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8295A2DC07 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17696 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2001 18:18:54 -0000 From: larry@marso.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:18:54 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: bonobo CORBA exception "COMM_FAILURE" nautilus Message-ID: <20010331101854.A17691@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Any suggestions on the following? Thanks. On a Redhat 7.0 system, if I run nautilus as root (horror!) it works great in web browsing mode. As user, I get the following failure in the console, and "Web Page can't continue" in a dialog box: Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on realize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on unrealize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' ** WARNING **: A view failed. The UI will handle this with a dialog but this should be debugged. . From famrom@idecnet.com Sat Mar 31 13:29:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (3-MADR-X24.libre.retevision.es [62.83.13.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBFF2BC43 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01521; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: deedsmis@aculink.net Subject: Re: Blocking Access Message-ID: <20010331202913.A1515@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org, deedsmis@aculink.net References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net>; from deedsmis@aculink.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:59:12AM -0700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion deedsmis@aculink.net (2001-03-31 at 1059.12 -0700): > > don't give them the root password. > I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. Two options: - change the binaries to be only executable by a group, and only put on it those people you want to allow. Radical and could derive in "GNOME sucks, the manual says this and it does not work" or worse. - teach your users not to fuck up things. They can only break their own items, normally people do not want that. And if they break it, they learn, it is like kids and painful things (with basic difference that IIRC GNOME is not lethal as a gas kitchen can be). I see few reasons for the radical approach. Even demo installs can avoid it with the advantage of begin full working demos, like removing config and creating a new one in each login. So I see zero reasons, ATM. I would like to know what really is so important to force things, which can create other problems (eye problems, ie) or unhappiness ("my boss is dictator", ie), vs freedom. Please share the reason. GSR From rodolfo.borges@mail.com Fri Mar 30 01:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from panther.unisys.com.br (panther.unisys.com.br [200.220.64.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6432BCA5; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.com ([146.164.9.150]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2U6mAv05377; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:48:11 -0300 (BDB) X-Spam-Filter: check_local@panther.unisys.com.br by digitalanswers.org Message-ID: <3AC42C9C.AF3ABFD7@mail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:04 -0300 From: rodolfo.borges@mail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, sawmill@aarg.net, gnome-gui-list@gnome.org Subject: integrating cmdline and gui Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion An idea for gnome panel: (or any gui that have buttons/menus to run programs) The problem is that we don't see the stdout/stderr of the X programs. Of course we could run them from a command line, but we don't know a priori when we will like to see the output, and it would be a total mess to have one xterm for every X process. :) The solution is the launcher (the panel, or file manager, whatever) to redirect the stderr to a temp file like /tmp/xproc/.stderr An applet could give the user easy access to this information. Another cool feature: filters. The launchers could have an additional properties page called "output log" with: - A check button to save the log - Another check button to apply the list of filters - A list of filters (with new/edit/del buttons) Each filter have a regular expression (or just a simple string and 'case' checkbox) and action(s) to be performed on a hit: beep, display a msgbox, whatever. -- Rodolfo.Borges@mail.com From mike@cyborg-group.com Thu Mar 29 07:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5572BBE4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14iZfN-00021Z-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:33 +0100 Subject: gnome ftp server- seriously hacking me off From: mike To: Sarah Mount Cc: David A Knight , Gnome General Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 13:10:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Can someone please explain WHY the ftp server insists that your email and IP address match When you are behind a firewall they dont for obvious reasons This is NOT a problem with any other ftp server I am aware of From fabiofb@facilit.com.br Thu Mar 29 01:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from servidor_ecos.xpti (facilit.com.br [200.249.140.26]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5052E135 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by servidor-ecos.xpti with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: Fabio Gomes To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RES: Where are my Icons ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 1. Right click the panel 2. Click: Add to panel -> applets -> utilities -> task list []s Fabio Gomes de Souza Facilit Tecnologia fabiofb@facilit.com.br > -----Mensagem original----- > De: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]Em > nome de Chuck > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 29 de marco de 2001 02:42 > Para: gnome-list@gnome.org > Assunto: Where are my Icons ? > > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to > get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From foobar@clara.co.uk Wed Mar 28 06:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea (gaea.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77E2CEDC for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from claranet by gaea with local (Exim 3.11 #1) id 14iDx9-000OQa-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Reply-To: list-01@foobar.clara.co.uk Subject: Missing applets and icons are black (Debian 2.2 / X 4.0.2) Cc: X-Remote_Addr: 62.136.246.89 Message-Id: From: Bernard Boudet Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I think my installation is botched, but I can't figure out what is wrong except that paths seem to be screwed up somehow. This is Debian 2.2 stable with 2.2.17 kernel, and X v4.0.2 compiled from source. Sorry, I don't know how to tell what revision of GNOME, but I downloaded and installed it yesterday using `lynx -source http://go- gnome.com/ | sh', and I chose the full-install option. The same problems were also happening with GNOME installed from Debian 2.2, which is why I upgraded. The GNOME desktop fires up with GNU Midnight Commander ok, but " Commands | Edit mime types..." does nothing. The Gnome Help Browser also starts up, but says "Could not load default TOC page". The main panel at the bottom of the screen, only shows 3 buttons - Menu, Log out and Lock screen. These are all white text on a black background. There is nothing else on the main panel. Clicking Menu pops up a menu with Programs, Favorites, Applets, Debian menus, Run..., Panel, and Log out. The Applets item has no submenus. At the top of the screen there is a bar with Programs, Favorites, Settings and Desktop. The Applets item under Programs has no submenu, and clicking it does nothing. The Settings menu is empty. Clicking "Programs | Debian menus | Apps | System | Gnome Control Center" does nothing. Running gnomecc from the command line gives this error: ~$ gnomecc ** WARNING **: No configuration applets were found. This probably means that either the control-center or GNOME is incorrectly installed. ~$ locate applet | wc --lines 1120 I've tried `rm -rf ~/.gnome*' but this does not help. I have the files .xinitrc and .xsession in my home directory: #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xinitrc # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xsession # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session The problems are the same, whether starting my session with startx or from gdm. Before uprading GNOME, I used xdm and the problem happened with that too. I have set the Debian default window manager to Enlightenment, but but X session runs as Sawfish (this is only a minor annoyance, I know I could fix it with gnomecc if it would run). ~$ /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/enlightenment /usr/bin/enlightenment - priority 50 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/enlightenment.1.gz /usr/bin/sawfish - priority 20 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/enlightenment. Please ask for specific info if I missed something, but otherwise - Help! From Michael.Garza@getronics.com Wed Mar 28 05:15:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from res02wnt246.corp.wang.com (fwus1.us.getronics.com [192.84.63.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528E2E034 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by res02wnt246.corp.wang.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garza, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Gnome through x windows? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I'm relatively new to Unix, and I need some help before I start on this task.. I would like to know if Gnome can be pulled up through an x server for Windows such as Exceed? I have a Sun Netra X1 at home with no framebuffer and I'd like to have an x desktop pulled up. We use HPOV pulled through Exceed at work, and I know this is possible with plain x windows, but I'm not sure if Gnome will work. Also any help with getting a regular x desktop pulled up would be greatly appreciated. Michael Garza Network Analyst Getronics ICTC From RiNilsson@keyww.com Tue Mar 27 10:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gossip.keyww.com (exchange-key.bmi.net [207.173.63.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A722D629 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by Gossip with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:35:11 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Nilsson, Rik" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Invisible panel on LinuxPPC Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For whatever reason, my user-account initial panel in LinuxPPC has become invisible. The user has a background jpg displayed and is using WindowMaker. The panel config includes the defaults plus modem-lites and some application launchers. At each login I am alerted that "...a panel is already running, do you wish to start another?" I have to reply "Yes" and then I get a right-edge vertical panel duplicating the customized configuration. The original panel never becomes visible. For this session then, the panel functions normally. I've seen answers to other posts saying to delete .gnome directories. No matter how many times I remove all the user's Gnome "."-directories it always does this on subsequent logins to this user account. If I terminate the panel job with "kill -9 id", the panel restarts but is still not visible. Typing "panel" at the prompt of course, always results in the above alert that there is already... My root account and another "guest" account do not exhibit this behavior, so I am inclined to think the main Gnome program is not dysfunctional, that the problem is in the user directory. Before I remove and re-create the entire user directory, I thought I'd ask if there is something I am overlooking. Rik From mike@cyborg-group.com Mon Mar 26 07:26:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D282DBCA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14hUYz-0006zE-00 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:49:29 +0100 Subject: ftp server access From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102271933.UAA11952@email.enst.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 13:31:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ther last time I tried to accessthe gnome ftp server I was refused access. It stated that my IP address and my e-mail address did not match so refused connection I am on an ADSL link with a an e-mail address off hosted web space so obviously my e-mail address will not match. Is there any way round this From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0852CF1B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9ZuW03130; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:20:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ADE2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nfS03175; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From dmcglone@ameritech.net Wed Feb 28 21:12:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DB2CF0A for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net ([64.108.97.88]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010301021159.THVD1581.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@mailhost.col.ameritech.net> for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:11:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:10:49 -0500 From: David McGlone To: Gnome Message-ID: <20010228211049.A2535@buddy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 594 Lines: 19 Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello everyone, I downloaded the C/C++ compiler and I need to know what the include path is, and the library path for the compiler to be able to compile. I belive the library files would be /usr/lib, and the include would be /usr/include. I am programming in C++ using GCC on RH 7. can anyone help me out here? TIA -- =================================================================== David M. ICQ: 96210352 AIM: dmcg295308 ==================================================================== /usr/games/fortune: The way some people find fault, you'd think there is some kind of reward From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Wed Feb 28 22:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994962BB01 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (tot-tl.proxy.aol.com [152.163.207.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA03885 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9F82B9.ipt.aol.com [172.159.130.185]) by tot-tl.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f213DPE08395 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9DBC27.6060400@seznam.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:04:07 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list Subject: gnome-utils-1.3.1 undeclared variable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
I'm trying to make  gnome-utils-1.3.1  under  debian linux potato 2.2rev2.
Compiler reports undeclared variable "PIXEL_SIZE_STANDARD"  in "gdictsrc/gdict-applet.c" .
Do you have any suggestions where the variable should be declared?  It is used only once in whole gdict utility.
Thanks for any help   -SCUD
P.S. I have found no bug reports!???
From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Wed Feb 28 23:37:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FCA2E32D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:37:43 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B6B7BF0:01C0A209] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it throws this error: gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! A downloaded file could not be unzipped. If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jacksondorado@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 01:29:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982352BC8C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:29:24 -0800 Received: from 64.162.144.101 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.162.144.101] From: "jackson dorado" To: jacksondorado@hotmail.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installer error Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:29:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 06:29:24.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[F58C95C0:01C0A218] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I got the helix-installer to run but then the install crashed with these errors: Installer extracted into/var/cache/helix-install/installer. Running with arguments: Distribution: Red Hat Linux 6.2 ## gtkhtml-WARNING **: Couldn't find keybinding file -- /gnome/share/gtkhtml/keybin dingsrc.emacs ** WARNING **: Fatal transfer error: Transfer failed: Data connection: Bad file descriptor. gnome_segv: error in loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: NO such file or directory ==>Cleaning up temporary files...done. ## I have tried to install GNOME from the 6.2 CD but always got errors that many, many '.so' files were missing. I thought installing over the internet would be different :( thanks for any help. >From: "jackson dorado" >To: gnome-list@gnome.org >Subject: installer error >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:37:43 -0000 > >Hi, > >I just connected to www.go-gnome.com and ran the Gnome installer for a Red >Hat 6.2 server. The installer almost finishes downloading the app and it >throws this error: > >gzip: /var/cache/helix-install/installer.gz: unexpected end of file Error! >A downloaded file could not be unzipped. > > >If it looks familiar to anyone I would appreciate the help. > >thanks. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >gnome-list mailing list >gnome-list@gnome.org >http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Thu Mar 1 08:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766272BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust212.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.212]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12818 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:49:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A9E5744.EAD43F5F@linuxfreak.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:56 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME and BIOS problems References: <200102221853.f1MIru601731@aarongraham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Aaron Graham wrote: > > Whenever I tweak a BIOS setting, GNOME reverts to some set of default > settings, and I can't change certain attributes in the Control Center. > For instance, I can't switch to certain Sawfish window manager themes, > such as Gleam and CoolClean (although I can switch to microGUI and > gtk), my panel pager applet suddenly switches back to 1 workspace, and > I can't save session settings. This happens every time I tweak the > BIOS. > > Yesterday everything spontaneously began to work again, but then I had > to change another bios setting this morning (I just got a new memory > module). > > I have a TYAN Trinity 400 motherboard and Kingston 256MB mem module, > along with a 933 MHz pentium III, all designed for a 133 MHz memory > bus speed. > > Any experts out there? > Thanks, > Aaron It's March 1st. Not April 1st. From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:09:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B22E63C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14YVrq-000869-00; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Subject: Re: tasklist applet crashes with BadDrawable From: jacob berkman To: stas.orel@mailcity.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102280008.f1S08w927897@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Feb 2001 00:17:48 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote: > tasklist applet crashes in function tasklist_icon_check_x() when calling > gdk_image_get() (tasklist_icon.c:279). The error message is: > Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) > serial 2081 error_code 9 request_code 63 minor_code 0. which version of the tasklist are you running? you can get this from the about box of the tasklist. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From fejj@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 12:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E92E73C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.prv ([141.154.95.3]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01569; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:43:37 -0500 Subject: Re: cronosII mail client for Gnome From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Jeffry Smith Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <01022622412700.05334@buddy> <20010227004255.A3977@flux> <20010227000347.A82783@superhero.org> <20010227112146.500D996D98@sender.ngi.de> <983301480.9193.3.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 01 Mar 2001 11:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983465127.24220.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Feb 2001 17:17:57 -0500, Jeffry Smith wrote: > A few questions: > Jeffrey Stedfast said: > > Actually, Evolution *is* a collection of smaller applications working > > together. ;-) > > > > The Evolution Addressbook will be replacing the GNOME Addressbook and > > the Evolution Calendar will be replacing the GNOME Calendar. > > Will they run without the Evolution shell (i.e. as stand-alone apps linke > Gnome Addressbook & Gnome Calendar)? no, they need to be embedded. You could probably write a simple shell to embed the calendar or the addressbook to make it "standalone" though. > > > > > Evolution itself is just a shell that embeds the addressbook, the > > calendar, and the mailer and allows them to share information much > > better than any other set of similar applications can. > > Also, will the mail client run stand-alone? And does it support mh style mail > folders? same as above. Yes, it supports MH style mailboxes. Jeff From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Thu Mar 1 12:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3D2E5A1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148B17A91; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:42:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from stud.ntnu.no (dusken4.samfundet.no [129.241.93.42]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E517A1E; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3A9E89E0.9030707@stud.ntnu.no> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:41:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard?= Wigtil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010219 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chadoliver14@netscape.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: C++ Language Binding References: <44C6AFA5.29C0E462.6AED4586@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion chadoliver14@netscape.net wrote: > I'm trying to learn more about using C++ to develop GNOME applications. I noticed gtk-- and Inti::Gtk both had nice features. I'm wondering if there is a C++ binding which is emerging from the crowd and has more support from the GNOME community? Gtk-- (and Gnome--) will be included with Gnome 1.4, and as such be the "official" binding. Inti will be a framework for C++ on Linux (much broader scope than Gtk--, and maybe Linux only), but it is still in development. I'd go for Gtk-- if I were you. -- Hĺvard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrapé un Fraggle! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 1 14:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3A2DBB8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f21JL2j08931 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:21:02 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel Message-ID: <20010301192101.A8842@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil>; from jthill@microlink.net on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 06:25:02PM -0600 or thereabouts, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by using > the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed to delete the > gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the screen that has the > Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope this > does not involve a reinstall of gnome. Laugh, no. :) Right-click on the menu panel (the one you have at the top) and select panel->create panel->edge panel (or whatever type you prefer). You may have to add individual applets and launchers back onto it. I'm not sure. If you ever get to the stage where you delete -all- your panels, btw (and you really have to try hard to achieve this), you can restart by typing "panel" into a terminal. It will come back happily. Telsa From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 16:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43E42BB36 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7124 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13085 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 21:34:24 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21LYI121232 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <001101c09ec1$667cb720$acdaa0d1@jameshil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > and desk guide)). > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from the .gnome.old to the new .gnome For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't forget to verify the ownership/perms.) HTH Barthel P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . . Yay!) -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From murphy@erim-int.com Thu Mar 1 16:58:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csd10g.erim-int.com (csd10g.erim-int.com [155.102.129.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2BD2DEDC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from erim-int.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by csd10g.erim-int.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:51:14 -0500 From: Sean Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel References: <200103012134.f21LYI121232@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. All you really need to do is log in as root, open a terminal window, type "panel &" (without the quotes) and then choose to save your session when you logout. That will cause gnome to remember that user root wants a panel running and will put when up each time you log in as root. As usual, you should try to avoid logging in as root as much as possible. You could always log in as yourself, then 'su' to root, or use something like sudo to give yourself root power only when needed. Logging in as root is usually equivalent to using a chainsaw as a can opener. Sure it might work Ok, but when something goes wrong, it goes REALLY wrong! "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > On 24 Feb, Jim Hill wrote: > > Earlier today I logged on as root (to do some housekeeping), and by > > using the delete key once too often to delete an applet, I managed > > to delete the gnome panel (the one that runs along the bottom of the > > screen that has the Gnome (foot) menu, quick launchers, task list, > > and desk guide)). > > I still have the fast access panel? along the top of the screen. > > I am using Mandrake 7.1 with the Helix Gnome 1.2 > > > > If I log in as a user the gnome panel (along the bottom) is still there. > > > > How do I restore the gnome panel (along the bottom) as root? I hope > > this does not involve a reinstall of gnome. > > The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename > ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the > default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from > the .gnome.old to the new .gnome > > For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user > panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't > forget to verify the ownership/perms.) > > HTH > > Barthel > > P.S. I periodically tar a copy of ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. That way, if > something gets corrupted (especially applet settings) I can simply untar > my most recent backup and return to that setup. (However, I do rely on > this backup far less often, thanks to the new applet restart dialog . . > . Yay!) > -- > ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 > Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! > > Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Thu Mar 1 17:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpc.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F30D2BA83 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4010 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpa.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26705 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from du170169.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.170.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2001 22:30:19 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21MUD121997; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200103012230.f21MUD121997@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:30:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Lost of Helixgnome 1.2 panel To: gnome-list Cc: murphy@erim-int.com In-Reply-To: <3A9EC452.C18AFF2B@erim-int.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 1 Mar, Sean Murphy wrote: > Deleting root's .gnome directory will work, but you will lose all the setting > you ever had for Gnome, and is far more destructive than what you need to do. Who said "DELETE"???? Not I. I said "RENAME"--which preserves those mods, ready for restoration. BTW--My advice, works for restoring the DEFAULT SETUP for *any* user. I just phrased my response for the specifics of the case--and chose to only respond to the question asked. (I'm a sudo'er, myself, Slacker that I am.) I really didn't want to start the "logging in as root is unwise" vs. "I *do* know what I'm doing and I want to login as root" thread again. > "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: >> The simplest way to have GNOME return to the default setup is to rename >> ~/.gnome (perhaps to ~/.gnome.old). GNOME will then happily restore the >> default setup. You can then copy/edit to match any modifications from >> the .gnome.old to the new .gnome >> >> For that matter, if your root panels are identical to your regular user >> panels, just copy the subdirectory ~/.gnome/panel.d/default. (Don't >> forget to verify the ownership/perms.) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! Linux: Proof of intelligent life on Earth. From federico@ximian.com Thu Mar 1 19:20:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4A2DDF7; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08505; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:31:11 -0600 Message-Id: <200103020031.SAA08505@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-1.4-list@gnome.org Subject: gdk-pixbuf 0.10.0 is released X-JWZ: To a database person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or something like that. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of hot entomological squishing action, Version 0.10.0 of the gdk-pixbuf library, code named "dance the ghost with me", has been released. This release includes a number of important bug fixes. * Availability ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz * Changes in this release: - New XBM file loader (John). - We now have our own poor man's implementation of XParseColor() so that the XPM loader can work for both GdK and Xlib (John). - Completely re-written PNM loader (Jeff, Pavel, Frédéric). - Memory leak fixes for the PNG loader (Iain). - Fixes to gdk-pixbuf.m4 (Mathieu). - Updates for the new gdk_image_get() API return value (Ramiro). - Offset computation fixes for the compositing functions (Larry, Mitsuru, Helmethead, Federico). - Compositing fixes for greater accuracy (Federico). - Fixed the GDK_PIXBUF_LIBS output so that image libraries are not linked with programs that use gdk-pixbuf (Miguel). Love, Federico From jh0u@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f187.hotmail.com [216.32.181.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CC2BB19 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:20:00 -0800 Received: from 209.179.211.226 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:19:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.211.226] From: "JJ D." To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: wt@!#$%!!! helix-code/gnome installation Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:19:59 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 01:20:00.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6721E40:01C0A2B6] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't seem to install helix-gnome/code or whatever... I am using debian sid and everytime I use apt-get install task-helix-gnome it complains that it's broken since it can't install gnome-games..so I installed gnome-games..but helix-gnome still doesn't want to install..tried to install red-carpet still the same issues..broken packages..what gives? I tried both ximian and helixcode sites in my /apt/sources.list with exactly the same result.. nothing..I know that gnome1.4beta will be out soon so is this the reason nothing's working anymore until gnome1.4 officially launches? the gnome-site doesn't seem to help...not unless you are living in an alternate timeline whose year is still 1999. consequently, ximian's website gives no peep/news that there is some problems.. or is it just me? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lowlifeboy@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:28:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f171.hotmail.com [216.32.181.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99702CFED for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:28:40 -0800 Received: from 208.63.246.199 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.63.246.199] From: "Low Lifeboy" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse clicks and actions Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:28:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 02:28:40.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E9C7FE0:01C0A2C0] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to figure out. Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on it and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title bar or the borders for the window to come up to focus. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 1 22:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A413C2BD8A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2234nh12078; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:07:06 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Low Lifeboy Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Mouse clicks and actions Message-ID: <20010301220706.A29088@sean.aweplay> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from lowlifeboy@hotmail.com on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 21:28:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Go into the control panel, select Sawfish properties -> Focus Behaviour, then turn on the 'Raise when Focused' option. That'll get you set up. I'd also browse thru the other features, and get everything tweaked just the way you like it. On 2001.03.01 21:28:40 -0500 Low Lifeboy wrote: > Ok, I've just installed Helix and I have a question I've not been able to > > figure out. > Whenever I want to bring a window to the top I'm used to just clicking on > it > and the window comes up; however, now I have to click either the title > bar > or the borders for the window to come up to focus. > Is there a way to fix this? > > Thank you. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From cleek@csc.smsu.edu Fri Mar 2 03:40:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from csc.smsu.edu (csc.smsu.edu [146.7.45.212]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542582BF9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cleek@localhost) by csc.smsu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f228eWi39128 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cleek@csc.smsu.edu) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:40:32 -0600 (CST) From: Billie Cleek To: Subject: Helix Audio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion A while back I was corresponding with someone that was having problems with their sounds in gnome, but I've lost his e-mail address. If you're listening: I think I've come across the solution to your problem. Cleek From tshanno@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Mar 2 08:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org [147.126.239.203]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231BB2BCF7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mc101-151.card.luhs.org (mc101-151.card.luhs.org [147.126.101.151]) by luhsdns1.medctr.luhs.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26914 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:50:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:13:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas R. Shannon" X-Sender: To: Subject: Evolution and Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm a pretty dedicated pine user but I'm starting to get curious about Evolution. In the last preview release I downloaded, it wasn't immediately evident how to get it to work best with pine. For instance, Evolution seems to want mail folders in separate directories. Pine wants them all collected in ~/Mail or ~/mail. Is there a way to get Evolution to accept all of the mail folders in one directory? Is there a way to import pine addresses? Does anyone know if this stuff is planned? Thanks, Tom ================ Quote of the day for February 28th, 2001 Authority without wisdom is like a heavy ax without an edge, fitter to bruise than polish. - Anne Bradstreet From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 2 09:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52832E721 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA18549 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:12:23 -0800 Message-Id: <200103021412.GAA18549@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:12:37 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Does anyone know how to change the background color of the contacts list in evolution. I don't like bright colors and the white background is blinding with my dark color scheme. Chazz From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 2 12:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF82DBA1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f22HguE01292; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A9FDBA0.E6533BB1@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:42:56 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list , "redhat-list@redhat.com" Subject: [Fwd: Re: no gui [#28630301]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is a GUI for Producer 8.5 on Windows. They haven't taken that away. But they found most Linux users don't want or need a GUI. -------------- this is what I got from real folks..i asked why all of a sudden no GUI for realproducer.. well linux users is this true? :)LOL granted there is as certain geekage percentage myself sometimes included that "enjoys" the command line.....but......for something that tends to be somewhat complicated a gui is certainly a nice alternative.......how many use this product i wonder..... just wondering lee From lauris@ximian.com Fri Mar 2 15:12:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D002E7EA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl1100.estpak.ee [213.168.29.81]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19055; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:13:49 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200103022013.WAA19055@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: 0.26.pre breaks old apps From: Lauris Kaplinski To: gnome-print@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8 - Preview Release) Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:13:02 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I just discovered that installation from gnome-print-0.26.pre tarball breaks old applications. More specifically it overwrites ${prefix}/share/fontmap file with new version, that older gnome-prints <=0.25 are not able to understand. So applications compiled with previous gnome-print versions will most probably die, complaining of missing default font. This shouldn't create problems, if you upgrade all gnome to 1.4-beta2, but can cause problems for aprtial upgrades. This is fixed in stable CVS branch gnome-1-4-branch and will be fixed in next release by renaming the main file to fontmap2. Meanwhile you can get around that problem, by: Creating copy of your fontmap before installation and replacing the new one with the old. The new gnome-print can read old fontmap. If your fontmap is gnome, grab a tarball of gnome-print-0.25, compile it, and run font installation script (you do not have to re-install the old gnome-print). perl run-gnome-font-install gnome-font-install ${datadir} ${srcdir} datadir is /usr/share for redhat-like systems, srcdir is the topmost source directory. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Sat Mar 3 03:15:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E62BCC8 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23578; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> To: David Hampton Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:00 PST." <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <3A9568F4.3A7FB864@yahoo.com>, David Hampton writes: >I'm trying to run an application that fails with the message: > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication >protocols > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. >Stepping through the application with gdb shows that this error message >comes from the routine gnome_init_with_popt_tale. I've occasionally >seen this message from other progrms too. What causes this error and >how can I fix it. Thanks. Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? cp ~/.Xauthority ~ John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From root@gruyere.ath.cx Sat Mar 3 05:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2FF2BAB1 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f23Acbg11871; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103031038.f23Acbg11871@gruyere.ath.cx> To: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Cc: David Hampton , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gnome-init fails In-Reply-To: Message from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:15:28 EST." <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:38:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John wrote : > cp ~/.Xauthority ~ Ach.. Does nobody know how to share a Magic Cookie ? So let me teach it to you so.. user@localhost > touch ~/.rhosts && echo "$HOST root" >> ~/.rhosts root@localhost # xauth extract - $HOST:0 | rsh $HOST -l user xauth merge - if $HOST:0 is not your display but :0 is, then change it in the last line.. You could just put it in the /root/.login file (or whatever your have..) to do it automagically when you do "su -" I think this is very useful when you are, for example, in a university and you work with another guy.. Or when you have different account on different box with different ~. Dams -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From jmwhite@mail.hot1.net Sat Mar 3 17:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.hot1.net (mail.hot1.net [12.5.166.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557902BC79 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (64-217-53-85.ded.swbell.net [64.217.53.85]) by newman.hot1.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f23MY8a75132 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:34:09 -0600 (CST) From: Mike White Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:36:09 GMT Message-ID: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Subject: no gnome To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After=20 hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds an= d=20 crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per= =20 the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I=20 decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order=20 that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and = the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no = Gnome in the session drop down list. Anyone know how I can get it back? From mjbjr@beaudesign.com Sat Mar 3 17:46:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (dsl-64-32-0-230.hwrp.loop.net [64.32.0.230]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76122BD0E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mjbjr@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00781 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: mjbjr owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: mjbjr@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: command line reset? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how would I do that? Thank you. - Martin J. Brown, Jr. - - mjbjr@beaudesign.com - PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91102BDAD for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NR5Y21307 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:27:05 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no gnome Message-ID: <20010303232705.C20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303.22360900@localhost.localdomain>; from jmwhite@mail.hot1.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:36:09PM +0000 or thereabouts, Mike White wrote: > I tried installing the latest version of Helix Gnome last night. After > hours of downloading the rpms, the installer worked for three seconds and > crashed. I downloaded the installer and tried installing manually as per > the instructions, but the installer would not see the files. Then I > decided to install the rpms one-by-one. I installed them in the order > that was recommended, and everything seemed to go well. I re-booted and > the new GDM started up like it should have. The problem is, there is no > Gnome in the session drop down list. > > Anyone know how I can get it back? You don't say what distribution you are using, but "no Gnome in the drop-down list for gdm" sounds like Mandrake. Suggestions on support@ximian.com and IRC list were to try one of these: (a) as root, chmod 755 /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/Gnome (b) grab the updated gdm package for Mandrake at http://primates.ximian.com/~peter/gdm-2.0beta4-22mdk_helix_10.i586.rpm and install it. If it's not Mandrake, however, I suspect these won't work :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 3 18:39:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138732DC67 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f23NgpS21330 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 GMT Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:42:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjbjr@beaudesign.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:46:15PM -0800 or thereabouts, mjbjr@beaudesign.com wrote: > I've been pressing the envelope, seemingly, of late, and have had several > gnome/pager lockups. The mouse moves, but apps don't see clicks and the > pager doesn't respond. I can get to a console, and rather than killing > everything, I'd rather give gnome a 'restart'. If it's possible, how > would I do that? You would run 'top' and look for what is eating the CPU and so on. (Be careful assessing what's using the memory: you have to subtract the amount listed in 'share' to get an accurate assessment.) Then hit 'k' and type in the process number for it. k is kill Do not believe anyone who tells you it stands for 'keep running' and is thus harmless :) If you run top as root, you can kill practically anything. There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Shoot them one by one and wait and see whether X, and thus Gnome wakes up. Obviously, you don't want to shoot X or gnome-session itself, unless you've run out of other things to kill :) panel, gnome-terminal, xmms, netscape (_particularly_ netscape :)), gmc, big word processors and anything saying "_applet" are all candidates for this pruning. Anything ending in 'd' is likely to be a daemon. Don't go randomly killing daemons off if you're not sure what they are. There are some which are not supposed to be killable, but do you want to be the one to discover they are? A similar example is the font server, xfs. I wouldn't kill that unless I was really desperate and about to hit control-alt-delete anyway, either. To get out of 'top', hit 'q' for 'quit' (and it's 'h' for help). There is a much nicer graphical version, gtop, but if X has locked up, it's not going to help :) Telsa From keichwa@gmx.net Sun Mar 4 01:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from myway.myway.de (unknown [212.204.66.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8E72D252 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4087.nefkom.de [212.114.164.87]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15055; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:38:16 +0100 Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 0CD55A5A03; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:37:49 +0100 (CET) To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> From: Karl Eichwalder Date: 04 Mar 2001 07:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Telsa Gwynne writes: > If you think something in Gnome has locked up, but you don't want to > start by killing off X, then you would kill off the X clients. That's > any program you're running in X (they are X clients because they talk > to the X server). Some of them, notably file managers and the panel, > will respawn themselves if you kill them off. Yes, that's a nice feature. I just managed to iconify the menu panel and neither the foot panel nor sawfish controlled menus allowed me to deiconify it (it's cleverly hidden ;) ). Killing the panel revived the menu panel again. Wondering whether there's a more user friendly way? Maybe, this qualifies as a gnome-core bug? -- work : ke@suse.de | ,__o : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | _-\_<, home : keichwa@gmx.net | (*)/'(*) From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 06:19:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824C32D026 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZWXb-0001rL-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:08 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24BJ6W34244 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:19:06 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:21 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Barnfather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk paul.barnfather@vatechuk.com | | __ http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk . | o--o-... 75TS o'~o... 750SS From francesc@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk Sun Mar 4 08:14:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC642DE1E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from modem-276.hodad.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.161.20] helo=vilarino.fsnet.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14ZYKv-00043F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:14:25 +0000 From: Francesc Vilarino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem to login Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am quite new in all this Linux stuff, and I hope you can give me a clue on how to solve this problem I have. I am using Suse Linux 7.0, and a few days ago I downloaded the latest Gnome from the Helix site. The problem I have (and that I already had with my previous version of Gnome) is that, when I start up my PC, I need to log in twice (I go directly to init level 3 at boot time). The first time I enter my login and password I see very briefly the screen with all the boot up information, and I suddenly go back to the login screen. After entering my login and password a second time everything's ok. Has anyone already experienced this problem? If so, please let me know how to solve it. Thanks in advance to you all. Regards, Francesc From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 4 09:44:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC52D436 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24EiHS20892 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gnome Version Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is installed on a box? For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. Thanks Sean From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 4 10:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (93-MADR-X55.libre.retevision.es [62.83.16.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6722BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01090 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:21:34 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:42:51PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). GSR From jeff@tick.tcsn.net Thu Mar 1 18:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from thoth.trefftzs.org (ppp160-pm-p5.tcsn.net [207.114.143.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7F12E407 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from outmail.tcsn.net (jeff@localhost) by thoth.trefftzs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03215 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 Message-Id: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> X-Authentication-Warning: thoth.trefftzs.org: jeff owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: gnome-list Subject: Galeon Mailing List? Reply-To: Jeff Trefftzs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800 From: Jeff Trefftzs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. -- --Jeff Jeff Trefftzs http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery From mcompengr@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 00:52:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B22BA9A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (dialup-209.245.7.181.Denver1.Level3.net [209.245.7.181]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11373 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: mcompengr@earthlink.net Message-ID: <3A9F34FF.31AC06CE@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:51:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: titeInhibit ignored by gnome-terminal ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, There's nothing worse than problem terminal settings. I shy away from X resourse solutions (in general too) because the final value accepted is in the executable, and can not be overidden, if set there. My approach is in the stty/tset and /etc/termcap area. The latter is the easiest for me. In an emergency I setenv TERM to a non-existant value which hopefuly causes a fallback to some default. If you look in /etc/termcap you should see strings beginning in column one that are followed by a |. These are the available values for the TERM env. Following the name is a bunch of parameter/setting pairs. The parameter name begins with a :. Now, the :te parameter is the one we DON'T want, in order to inhibit that flipping. You can have your gnome-terminal invoked with the --login flag, and then put setenv TERM in your .login file. Or, type setenv TERM as the first command. This is for csh/bash/tcsh etc. Korn syntax differs (no setenv). ---David > I have XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true > > in my .Xdefaults. Nonetheless, while xterm pays attention to this, > gnome-terminal doesn't. (I'm using gnome-terminal 1.1.5.) > > (Background FYI: titeInhibit controls whether apps such as less, more, > vi, mutt, and so forth that ask to use the xterm's alternate screen > actually flip to that screen or not. More practically, this means it > controls whether quitting vi, less, etc. leaves you looking at what > you were looking at a moment ago or what you were looking at before > you started that app. > > Tia for any pointers. > > -- > Jeff Abrahamson > 610/270-4845 > abrahj01@molbio.sbphrd.com > > (home email is jeff_abrahamson@purple.com) > From mvdwege@wanadoo.nl Sun Mar 4 02:28:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 669922BD0E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28401 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.244) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 07:28:28 -0000 Received: from drebbelstraat20 ([127.0.0.1]) by drebbelstraat20 with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZSvz-0002yw-00 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:28:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:27:59 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: gdm locks up my keyboard? Message-Id: <20010304082759.24c182c3.mvdwege@wanadoo.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Folks, I recently updated my sources.list to Ximian Gnome 1.4beta. After upgrading my system shows some weird behaviour at login: when I attempt to login using gdm straight after a reboot, my keyboard is *totally* dead. I mean totally, I can't switch to a virtual terminal, I can't kill X, and I can't do a Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. Thankfully I can reboot the system from gdm. The only way to avoid this is to to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 just while gdm comes up during boot, login at the console, disable gdm and start it again. It continues functioning normally from that point, so it is only a minor irrtation (as I don't reboot often), but I still wonder: is this a bug in gdm or do I have something misconfigured? BTW minor detail: gdm starts first on console #2, upon restart it runs on console #7. Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux Distribution Version: testing/unstable Operating System Release: 2.2.18 Mart -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sun Mar 4 11:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24D2D185 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f24GFRh26653; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:17:55 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Hartnett Cc: "gnome-list @ gnome . org" Subject: Re: Gnome Version Message-ID: <20010304111755.C23402@sean.aweplay> References: <3AA23FB1.9030301@vilarino.fsnet.co.uk> <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200103041444.f24EiHS20892@chmls05.mediaone.net>; from tardis@mediaone.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:44:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 31 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'd say that'd be difficult, since you could, for example, any upgrade certain parts of GNOME to 1.4 beta - for example, I'm mostly running beta1, with a couple packages from beta2 installed. Your best bet is to look at all the packages for gnome installed (most,but not all, of which have 'gnome' in their name - so on an RPM system, rpm -qa | grep gnome would give you a list, with package versions). You could compare this to a list of beta packages, and see what is beta, and what is not. On 2001.03.04 09:44:13 -0500 Hartnett wrote: > >From either a command line, or from some ICON option throught the > GUI, is there a way to get detailed info on what version of Gnome is > installed on a box? > > For example I installed the Beta 1.4 Gnome, and would like to see > somewhere that it says Beta 1.4 is on your system. > > > Thanks > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 4 12:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877C2BC87 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24GxEF16053; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:59:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103041659.f24GxEF16053@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Galeon Mailing List? From: Stephen "M." Williams To: Jeff Trefftzs Cc: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <200103012308.PAA03215@thoth.trefftzs.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:58:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Jeff, The Galeon mailing list can be found @: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/galeon-user I've been running Galeon here with little to no problems at all for a while. Shoot me an e-mail and maybe I can help. Steve On 01 Mar 2001 15:08:41 -0800, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > I've been trying to use Galeon as my default browser for a week > or so (galeon-0.9-pre3) and have discovered a number of things I > dislike or view as potentially fatal bugs that make it almost > unusable. But I'm not sure where or to whom to make my > complaints or report the bugs. Can anyone point me to the > proper list for galeon development whines and complaints? :-) > > Also -- any other Galeon users out there who can maybe tell me > what I'm doing wrong that makes its performance so > unsatisfactory? (As an example of what I'm talking about, my > galeon really resists taking a link from my localhost to a page > outside my own domain. I keep getting messages that say the > referenced url isn't on my server (Doh!), or, even worse, 404 > Not Found. Usually a series of Reload/Back/Reload/Retry . . . > attempts will eventually load the site, but you can imagine my > pleasure at having to deal with this all the time.) > > Anyway - if there's a list for galeon, I'd like to know and join > it. I couldn't find anything relevant at gnome.org. > > > -- > --Jeff > Jeff Trefftzs > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php&artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://members4.clubphoto.com/jeff309574 A photo gallery > http://www.photos4all.net/jefftzs Another photo gallery > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 12:23:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2456F2BC6A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA30826; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:22:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 12:23:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From tcarter@princeton.edu Sun Mar 4 13:05:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from newman.pppl.gov (newman.pppl.gov [192.188.106.236]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1D72DEB8 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from a.pppl.gov (z.pppl.gov [192.188.106.240]) by newman.pppl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA31062; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200103041804.NAA31062@newman.pppl.gov> Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? From: Troy Carter To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.17.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 13:05:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Also, I just realized who you were, Paul (your e-mail sounded familiar) -- I have been referring to your website to get gnome compiled on solaris 2.6 (in a non-root account) for the last year or so. It's a great guide for those who want to get gnome compiled on solaris, take a look: http://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/index.html -Troy I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have got poking around mailing list archives. I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). It seems that the recursive mutexes are gone (at least it seems that way from briefly perusing the source, not that I am a hacker), but now I can't get it to compile for other reasons (if anyone is listening who could help, the compile error I am getting is: cc1: warnings being treated as errors gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function `strip_trailing_whitespace': gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' make[2]: *** [gnome-vfs-application-registry.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs/libgnomevfs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/p/mrxdata2/usr2/src/gnome-1.4/gnome-vfs' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ) -Troy >gnome-vfs-0.6.2 sill fails to compile here on Solaris 2.6 with >PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > >It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, >but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > >Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? -- Troy Carter tcarter@princeton.edu From pnelson@neatech.com Sun Mar 4 15:35:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from washington.neatech.com (unknown [207.93.69.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF92D2E2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by WASHINGTON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> From: Patrick Nelson To: "Gnome-List (E-mail)" Subject: Whats all in RC? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From plazma803@home.com Sun Mar 4 16:15:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493292CE31 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com ([65.1.52.32]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304211531.PPTS21905.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc342141-b.nagusta1.sc.home.com>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:15:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? From: Josh McGee To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List "(E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.8 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 16:14:27 -0500 Message-Id: <983740467.24996.0.camel@cc342141-b.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Red-carpet is an package update tool that replaces ximians(aka:helix-code) update tool On 04 Mar 2001 12:35:18 -0800, Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From michaelv@cox-internet.com Sun Mar 4 17:08:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from europa.cox-internet.com (europa-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D742DF21 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by europa.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:07:14 -0600 Subject: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 04 Mar 2001 10:12:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. Thanks in advance. From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 22:54:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512A2BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA147020; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial099.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.99]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA71010; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:54:44 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Patrick Nelson Cc: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Whats all in RC? Message-ID: <20010304225444.A764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4165C48DE9A0D211B6400800095C585F179E@WASHINGTON>; from pnelson@neatech.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 15:35:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It depends. It only works with Debian and Red Hat at this point. It updated smoothly for my recently installed RH 6.2 system. Others have had problems. Read about it here: http://www.ximian.com/apps/redcarpet.php3 Ask more questions and check out the message archives here: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/red-carpet Brett On 2001.03.04 15:35 Patrick Nelson wrote: > I've been trying to figure out what Red Carpet is. Is it a GNOME release > or > a Helix GNOME release? Is it stable? Should I do it? From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Sun Mar 4 23:11:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC92BB41 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (garnet2-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.2]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA84998; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:17 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial676.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.35.66]) by garnet2.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30022; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 Message-ID: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Reply-To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; from michaelv@cox-internet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:12:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 37 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What Lycos found: 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > Thanks in advance. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- From root@gruyere.ath.cx Mon Mar 5 01:20:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gruyere.ath.cx (ANice-101-1-3-147.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.187.147]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2D02D371 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruyere (root@localhost) by gruyere.ath.cx (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f256Lif30276; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200103050621.f256Lif30276@gruyere.ath.cx> To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org From: anvil@amin.unice.fr Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Brett Castleberry of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 EST." <20010304231049.C764@monachos> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:21:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion As far as i can remember there was a .spec file in the gdk-pixbuf tar.gz (or at least a spec.in file..) So.. let's build yourself your own rpm package. if a spec file is present then "rpm --tb gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz" will build 2 i386.rpm (gdk-pixbuf & devel) if a spec.in file is present then tar zxvf the archive, ./configure will build the spec file from spec.in file. Copy the tar.gz in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES and rpm -ba will build .src.rpm and .i386.rpm packages (-bb if you just want i386) for the rest.. "man rpm" Dams bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu wrote : > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- Dams Nadé DEA Informatique : anvil@amin.unice.fr Association AMIN : http://amin.unice.fr/ Irc Operator : Anvil on IrcNet.Eurecom.Fr From michael.boeni@artificial-life.com Mon Mar 5 06:14:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from srvzhex1.artificial-life.com (unknown [212.243.161.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F002E04E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by SRVZHEX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: <0FA6AB953DC0D311A07B00508BAE1B01560645@SRVZHEX1> From: "Boeni, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Keyboard swiss-german Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:14:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all I use Gnome (Ximian) on my Thinkpad. I would like to use the swiss-german keyboard; the mapping works perfectly (I edited X86conf) but I have a problem with using the special keys like "@". I would like to set the ALTGR key to use to get these special characters - but I have not really worked out how to set this correclty. Please advise. Cheers, Michael From cohendr@yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 15:11:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web3202.mail.yahoo.com (web3202.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0838F2D37A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:11:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.186.194.129] by web3202.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:11:38 PST Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Cohen Reply-To: catman@ascensionet.com Subject: Re: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk, tcarter@princeton.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Troy and Paul, It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. >From reading archives of the comp.programming.threads newsgroup, Solaris 7 and 8 both require patches to the operating system to prevent deadlocks with recursive mutexes. It also sounds like the patches may not completely fix the problems. Eazel has no desire to resolve this problem for Gnome 1.4 (although, I would imagine they would accept patches). All they care about is if it works in Solaris 8 (which is a reference platform). See bug 7007 in eazel's bugzilla for more information (http://bugzilla.eazel.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7007). - Dan Cohen Excerpt from Troy Carter: > Oops, looks like I was wrong about the lack of recursive mutexes in > gnome-vfs HEAD. They are definitely in there, so maybe I was wrong > about any effort to remove recursive mutexes from gnome-vfs. So I guess > Solaris 2.6 is not going to be supported in gnome-1.4. Excerpt from Troy Carter: > I have also been trying to compile gnome-vfs on solaris 2.6 for a while. > The problem is that libpthread on solaris 2.6 does not have recursive > mutexes. This is only in Solaris 7 or 8. So, if gnome-vfs continues to > use them, it will not compile on solaris 2.6. I think that they are > being removed from gnome-vfs, at least this is the indication I have > got poking around mailing list archives. Paul Barnfather wrote: > PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE undelclared in gnome_vfs_pthread.c > > It has been suggested that this release should compile on Solaris, > but I'm not sure if this includes 2.6. > > Should I file a bug, or is this already fixed? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From flinstone99999@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 00:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (smtp-tor.internetconnect.net [209.191.75.194]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF322CA96 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com ([209.191.114.209]) by smtp-tor.internetconnect.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17264 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA324DD.357059C0@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:32:13 -0800 From: David Hampton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-init fails References: <200103030815.DAA23578@ww2.tqstats.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > > Are you trying to run a program as root when you logged in as a different user? Yes. I su'd to root in an xterm window and tried to run the program. What confuses me is that the exact same executable does or does not produce this message depending upon the name under which it was invoked. When invoked as red-carpet (yes, this is red-carpet but I've seen this on other programs) I do not get an error message. When invoked as red-carpet-91, I get an error message. Its the same object file. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 4 21:27 red-carpet->red-carpet-91 -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 2228993 Mar 3 02:55 red-carpet-91 Can someone explain this behavior? Thanks. David From misiek@pld.ORG.PL Mon Mar 5 05:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.210.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79EF2D026 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl (Postfix+IPv6, from userid 1002) id 9AF7AC8002; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miskiewicz To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnome-core && panel crash Message-ID: <20010305111135.A30562@ikar.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-URL: http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ X-Operating-System: Linux dark 4.0.20 #119 Tue Jan 16 12:21:53 MET 2001 i986 pld Organization: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution Team Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Problem with panel from gnome-core 1.3.1: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40657943 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 #3 0x407b6948 in tasklist_draw_task (task=0x816f1e0, rect=0xbffff000) at tasklist_applet.c:478 #4 0x407b81f4 in cb_expose_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414, tasklist=0x81a8838) at tasklist_applet.c:1220 #5 0x402bb378 in gtk_marshal_BOOL__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x407b8118 , func_data=0x81a8838, args=0xbffff124) at gtkmarshal.c:28 #6 0x402ef3fe in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x8179d60, signal=0xbffff0d8, object=0x81a02d0, params=0xbffff124, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917 #7 0x402ee725 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32, params=0xbffff124) at gtksignal.c:1477 #8 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=32) at gtksignal.c:552 #9 0x40329c49 in gtk_widget_event (widget=0x81a02d0, event=0xbffff414) at gtkwidget.c:2864 #10 0x4032dba4 in gtk_widget_real_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:4585 #11 0x402bb6d8 in gtk_marshal_NONE__POINTER (object=0x81a02d0, func=0x4032dab4 , func_data=0x0, args=0xbffff4f4) at gtkmarshal.c:193 #12 0x402ee571 in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15, params=0xbffff4f4) at gtksignal.c:1440 #13 0x402ec83f in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x81a02d0, signal_id=15) at gtksignal.c:552 #14 0x40328b59 in gtk_widget_draw (widget=0x81a02d0, area=0xbffff7a4) at gtkwidget.c:2335 #15 0x407b7393 in real_layout_tasklist (tasklist=0x81a8838, call_change_size=135413000) at tasklist_applet.c:774 #16 0x400b296e in g_timeout_add () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #17 0x400b18d6 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #18 0x400b1ef3 in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #19 0x400b20ac in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #20 0x402b95dc in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:524 #21 0x0805dc8e in main (argc=5, argv=0xbffffa2c) at main.c:312 #22 0x405fc2fe in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) frame 1 #1 0x40364288 in gdk_string_width (font=0x8129fb8, string=0x0) at gdkfont.c:338 338 width = XmbTextEscapement (fontset, string, strlen(string)); (gdb) frame 2 #2 0x407b5b22 in tasklist_task_get_label (task=0x816f1e0, width=225, add_groupcount=0) at tasklist_applet.c:115 115 label_len = gdk_string_width (tasklist->area->style->font, das_string); (gdb) print task->gwmh_task $1 = (GwmhTask *) 0x814ef08 (gdb) print *task->gwmh_task $2 = {name = 0x0, icon_name = 0x0, gstate = 0, ghints = 0, app_state = WIN_APP_STATE_NONE, focused = 0, iconified = 0, frame_x = 147, frame_y = 13, frame_width = 364, frame_height = 265, win_x = 153, win_y = 32, win_width = 352, win_height = 240, desktop = 3, harea = 0, varea = 0, layer = 0, last_desktop = 0, last_harea = 0, last_varea = 0, last_layer = 0, gdkwindow = 0x817d8d8, gdkframe = 0x815ccf0, datalist = 0x0, xwin = 48234499, xframe = 12594010, sroot = 0x8186580, imask_queued = 0, imask_notify = 0} (gdb) task->gwmh_task-> is NULL. [misiek@arm misiek]$ rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs gtk+ glib gnome-core-1.3.1-1 gnome-libs-1.2.12-3 gtk+-1.2.9-1 glib-1.2.9-1 -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, AM2-6BONE [ PLD GNU/Linux IPv6 ] http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/ [ enabled ] From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Mon Mar 5 08:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808F2E0AF for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25Dauo10959; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f25Dau105398; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:36:56 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: GnomeMessageBox Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Question: Is there a possibility to change the message text within a GnomeMessageBox, after it has been created. I didn't find any API call, nor something in the FAQs. Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From darin@eazel.com Mon Mar 5 11:31:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A83B22E078 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:30:21 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:30:58 -0800 Subject: gnome-vfs branch (was Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6?) From: Darin Adler To: Troy Carter , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103041722.MAA30826@newman.pppl.gov> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/4/01 9:23 AM, Troy Carter at tcarter@princeton.edu wrote: > I have been trying to compile gnome-vfs HEAD from cvs (anoncvs). gnome-vfs HEAD is not the newest gnome-vfs source code. You can find the newest code on the stable branch (and the branch used for GNOME 1.4), gnome-vfs-1. > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c: In function > `strip_trailing_whitespace': > gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:668: warning: subscript has type `char' This error is fixed in the gnome-vfs-1 stable branch, but the fix hasn't been rolled back to HEAD yet. There's a gnome-vfs mailing list at ximian.com that has all the gnome-vfs experts. They don't necessarily read this list. One way to subscribe is to go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/gnome-vfs. -- Darin From plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 5 13:13:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049602BB2D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from clanger9.demon.co.uk ([158.152.154.114] helo=hosaka.straylight) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ZzSu-000IBU-0B for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:12:23 +0000 Received: from rio (rio.straylight [192.168.2.2]) by hosaka.straylight (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f25I0oT51374 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:00:50 GMT (envelope-from plb@clanger9.demon.co.uk) From: "Paul Barnfather" To: "Gnome-List" Subject: RE: gnome-vfs: Can anyone compile it on Solaris 2.6? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:02:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010304201138.9976.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hmph. Seeing as gnome-vfs is pretty fundamental, I guess that means "GNOME 1.4 will not be available on Solaris 2.6/7" :-( That's a pity, but I suppose I have to move with the times. So much for the test compile of GNOME 1.4. Clearly I need to check out the upgrade path to Solaris 8. Man, I _hate_ OS upgrades... >From Dan Cohen: > It seems like there is no effort to remove the recursive mutexes > in gnome-vfs. There was an effort to remove uses of the non-portable > PTHREAD_RECURSIVE_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP macro, but this was replaced > with uses of PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE and pthread_mutexattr_settype, > both of which are not available on Solaris 2.6. From wphewitt@home.com Mon Mar 5 15:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c150135-a.potlnd1.or.home.com [24.7.139.148]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CB2BB98 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.com (IDENT:wphewitt@blowfish [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01183 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0800 From: "William P. Hewitt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for editing.... I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not a good enough investigator? TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... WPH From keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au Mon Mar 5 18:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au (smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C782CDC3 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dogbert ([134.7.1.238] helo=cs.curtin.edu.au ident=keithmag) by smtp.cs.curtin.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #5) id 14a42G-0004VP-00; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:00 +0800 Message-ID: <3AA41B9E.7E174E48@cs.curtin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:05:02 +0800 From: Russell Keith-Magee Organization: Curtin University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "William P. Hewitt" wrote: > > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... No need to play with config files. Right Click on the Foot menu Select Properties... You should be presented with a set of radio buttons describing whether you want various menus on the main menu, in a sub menu, or off. Select off for the Favourites and Distribution options. I'm not sure how you remove Run though. It's not a regular menu item; if it were, you would be able to right click on it and select an option to remove it. Russ %-) Enjoy, Russ Magee %-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Russell Keith-Magee PhD Research Student School of Computing, Curtin University of Technology email: keithmag@cs.curtin.edu.au OR russ.magee@computer.org WWW: http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~keithmag Ph: +61 8 9266 2129 FAX +61 8 9266 2819 ----------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretending I'm pulling in a TROUT! Am I doing it correctly?? From michaelv@cox-internet.com Mon Mar 5 21:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (unknown [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3F2DBF6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.193.35]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com>; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:41:50 -0600 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 From: Michael Thomas To: bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010304231049.C764@monachos> References: <20010304220714.ZLYC9889.europa@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> <20010304231049.C764@monachos> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.08.08.59 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 14:46:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010306024150.OSFC15172.io@cdm-193-35-vict.cox-internet.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There is an RPM @ www.rpmfind.net listed as polished but seems to work on RH7 BTW: lycos Ha ! Try www.google.com "Its the best search engine available. Hands down." just my personal Opinion. Thanks for the reply. On 04 Mar 2001 23:10:49 -0500, Brett Castleberry wrote: > What Lycos found: > > > 1. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 2. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 3. [[Link]] 49 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/latest/sources / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 4. [[File]] 450.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.dataplus.se > /pub/linux/gnome/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0.tar.gz > 5. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 6. [[File]] 368.5K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/SRPMS / gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.src.rpm > 7. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 ftp.archive.de.uu.net > /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > 8. [[File]] 134.9K 2001 Mar 2 sunsite.uio.no > /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS / > gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0-1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > > On 2001.03.04 11:12 Michael Thomas wrote: > > Is there an RPM of gdk-pixbuf-0.10.0 somewhere. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > -- > From len@philpot.org Mon Mar 5 21:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC29B2D393 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010306025538.OWZV15172.io@vulcan> for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:55:38 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: A few general questions Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect a few questions for which I can find no answers in the documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This can be very distracting. When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... Related to the previous question, an even better solution would be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do that. Any ideas? Is there any way to get around the split personality of the panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. And while I'm at it... :) This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From jnelson@lexonia.com Mon Mar 5 22:34:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3622BB92 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03475; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Len Philpot Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Len Philpot wrote: The Gnome panel menus and structure are a big pain in the user interface butt. They were worse in previous versions too. > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? I had the same problems with Balsa. Go to gnome.org and get the latest version of Balsa, released just two days ago. It clears up a few problems but there are still significant bugs IMHO. I use Netscape 6 and Pine. Netscape too has bugs but the features outweigh the bugs and are less annoying than Balsa. Actually I'm quite disatisifed with every mail client I've tried but you get what you pay for. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. 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From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 02:21:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0582BB41 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f267LYH01906; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030520595200.01391@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 05 Mar 2001 23:21:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 05 Mar 2001 20:59:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > I've started using gnome 1.2 recently and am starting to collect > a few questions for which I can find no answers in the > documentation, so I'll just shoot away in case anyone can help. > > > Is there any way to disable/turn off/whatever the automatic > underlining and 'activation' (for lack of a better word) of URLs > in gnome-terminal when the mouse pointer passes over them? This > can be very distracting. I'm not sure... I don't see the option at a quick glance. I kinda doubt it... > When adding launchers and/or drawers to the panel, is there a > way to prevent the icon from being scaled up in size? This is a > real problem with a launcher as they become HUGE and very nasty > looking due to the bitmap scaling. I use a 17" monitor at > 1024x768 and any icon over about 1/4" square is too big for me. > There's a pretty good collection of 16x16 icons, but once they > get scaled up, they're UGLY. Even the 32x32 icons are left > alone. I guess they're scaled to 48x48 (for what reason?)... The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty smoothly down. > Related to the previous question, an even better solution would > be NOT to use an icon at all, not even the resulting default > icon. Text would be best. I'd love to have every icon replaced > by a text-labeled button, but I doubt there's any way to do > that. Any ideas? You'r not the first to suggest it. It currently isn't possible. > Is there any way to get around the split personality of the > panel menu: primarily owned by root, with only pieces here and > there by the current user. I'd like to configure it so the > current user can control _all_ the contents of the menu (as much > as possible). Obviously he won't be able to run things to which > he has no access, but control over the menu would be good. I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the idea is that then you always have access to everything in that you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd think the user could basicly work with a diff of the menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out what the name of the program is without making a copy of the entry onto the panel. That's just silly. --Ben > And while I'm at it... :) > > This may be more appropriate in a Balsa forum; let me know if > so. Why won't it (Balsa 1.1.1) even try to check for incoming > mail on a remote POP3 server? I'm at home with a cable modem and > no local mail, just internet. I can't get the POP3 mailbox to > show up in the list and it steadfastly refuses to retrieve any > mail from it, even when I _know_ there's mail there. No errors, > just nothing. I have no other mailboxes defined at all. Any > ideas? > > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > > > -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- > ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- > ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cleek@cleekhouse.com Mon Mar 5 15:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from whyrl.cleekhouse.com (c155877-a.sprgfld1.mo.home.com [24.14.179.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3542DDF1 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cleek (helo=localhost) by whyrl.cleekhouse.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14a1vs-0000ZN-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:50:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Billie H. Cleek" To: "William P. Hewitt" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Look in control-center. Turn off "distibution menus" in the menu section of the panel configuration. On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... > > WPH > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From estoy@ver.megared.net.mx Tue Mar 6 12:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (unknown [200.52.208.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC002DFEC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net ([10.21.67.114]) by bsd.ver.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40165 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:38:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from estoy@ver.megared.net.mx) Received: (from vai@localhost) by lapurapus.thahouseoffire.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f26IB5111618 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:11:05 -0600 From: MC_Vai To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling under OpenBSD Message-ID: <20010306121105.A23537@lapurapus.ver.megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have a problem compiling gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (X version 4.0.2). Specifically the gnome-applets-1.2.4.tar.gz package, The actual error point (message) is: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I. -I. - I../intl -I../intl -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" - I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/lib/ gnome-libs/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include - I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DVERSIO N=\""1.2.4"\" -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/in clude/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -c modemlights.c In file included from modemlights.h:21, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:60: field `sc_timo' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:75: field `sc_stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:77: field `sc_npmode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_pppvar.h:91: syntax error before `ext_accm' In file included from modemlights.h:22, from modemlights.c:24: /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:74: field `mode' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:86: field `stats' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_ppp.h:91: fi gmake[3]: *** [modemlights.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4/modemlights' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-applets-1.2.4' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anybody have successfully compiled gnome under OpenBSD 2.8 (with X 4.0.2)? or tell me know what can I do? It's pretty obvious that the problem is about the OpenBSD net library, but I've not been able to came up with any solution. Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Eduardo. From mike@cyborg-group.com Tue Mar 6 08:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8012BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14aGFN-0007lD-00 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:07:21 +0000 Subject: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is not meant as a flame but I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while evolution is not To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and stable than evolution - so why the choice From garud@mail.eecis.udel.edu Tue Mar 6 14:12:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8682BB87 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa02385; 6 Mar 2001 14:12 EST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: Radhika Rao To: gnome-list@gnome.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Cc: Chandrashekhar Garud Subject: problem compiling gnome-lib-1.2.8 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to compile gnome for Solaris 7 with gcc version 2.7.2.3 I get the following problem compiling gnome-login-support.c from gnome-lib-1.2.8/zvt.. In file included from gnome-login-support.c:2: /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:332: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: parse error before `t_uscalar_t' /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:351: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/stropts.h:354: parse error before `}' It compiles with Sun CC. It seems that gcc that I am using does not compile any source file which includes sys/stropts.h Is there any workaround for this ? Thanks in advance chandra From aross@skyenet.net Tue Mar 6 19:33:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.skyenet.net (smtp.skyenet.net [208.137.1.40]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF202C8AC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from skyenet.net (IDENT:aross@port139.piqua.idir.net [216.117.46.149]) by smtp.skyenet.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f270ZGP04846; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:35:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:32:00 -0500 From: Art Ross Organization: Sinclair Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME crashes for one account Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried several times to bring it back up without success. There were some symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME configuration. Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. Thanks for the assistance. Art From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Tue Mar 6 23:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669B2BAAF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274B9H04201; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: len@philpot.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.8/+cvs.2001.02.16.08.55 - Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2001 20:10:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0600, Len Philpot wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2001 22:21, you wrote > > > The Gnome icons all come at 48x48. I made a bunch of large > > (192x192) icons and put them at www.cs.hmc.edu/~ben/icons/ I'm > > not sure why what you've got problems with ugly icons unless > > you'r scaling them to above 48x48... They should scale pretty > > smoothly down. > > Well, what was happening was that the icons in a drawer were > getting scaled up to 48x48. Apparently, you can't display an > icon at its _actual_ size if that's different from the size > that's "supposed" to be used (I guess). I was trying to use a > 16x16 icon in the drawer, since there's no need for anything > bigger. However, I finally gave up and used a 48x48 at its > actual size. It looks better (obviously) that a smaller one > scaled up, but it's still ugly to me in that it's about 4x too > big. Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > It seems there's no end to how big interface objects have/will > become in gnome. I'd much rather give the extra screen real > estate to the client area of a window rather than all widgets > surrounding it. Otherwise, you gain nothing with higher > resolution and larger screen sizes - Everything just gets bigger. I agree that a lot of things in Gnome are bigger than they need to be... I'm not completely sure what you mean... > Is it possible to create a transparent icon? Transparent icons show up as transparent... why? > > > I completely agree. I'm not sure why it is the way it is. It's > > not intuitive and just plain frusterating... I suppose the > > idea is that then you always have access to everything in that > > you can't delete the link, but that's a lame excuse.... I'd > > think the user could basicly work with a diff of the > > menu---that way new sofware would show up, etc. Also, the > > current behavior means that ``Properties...'' is insensitive > > for everythign in the menu. That means that you can't find out > > what the name of the program is without making a copy of the > > entry onto the panel. That's just silly. > > My opinion is that if it's your "stuff", you should have the > freedom to blow it away if you're not careful :) Yep... > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > should have an impact on anyone else. For example, CDE on > Solaris: log in as root and delete all the front panel icons and > such. Then log in as someone else and they're still there (for > them). The reverse also holds true. That's how it should be, > IMO. root should really have no influence on any other user's > interface, unless it's set up in /etc/skel as a *initial > default*. If you really want to clamp down, just chmod away > their permissions to do anything, but that's not real fair. This sounds like a better behavior. What do other people think? Why is the behavior as it is? I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? --Ben From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 7 06:56:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EBC2DC4D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax59-191.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.224.191]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Bu7H04729 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:56:07 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6592EC48; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: A few general questions Message-ID: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu>; from bfrantzdale@hmc.edu on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:10:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same property dialogues as panels... Including size. > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > should have an impact on anyone else. That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Is Murphy's Law constitutional? From mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Wed Mar 7 07:51:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx.tellabs.fi (proxy.tellabs.fi [193.65.253.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923B52C89F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (mxdk.dk.tellabs.com [172.19.74.16]) by mx.tellabs.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00655 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:51:02 +0200 (EET) From: mads.randstoft@tellabs.com Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mxdk.dk.tellabs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA23340 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:51:02 +0100 (MET) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:45:56 +0100" ;Modification-Date="Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:50:55 +0100" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have made a simple script that loads a picture from the net and want to place it as a background picture for gnome... Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome update the picture it has as background?? I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut it down... How can I update the background image without that hastle?? And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular intervals, but have found no such thing...) - Mads Randstoft From cmevoli@afsa.com Wed Mar 7 09:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E52DF12 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA06215 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:20:16 -0800 Message-Id: <200103071420.GAA06215@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:20:20 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Art Ross Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME crashes for one account References: <3AA58180.B59923AE@skyenet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem once... try moving your ~/.gnome/session file to ~/.gnome/session.bak. Then you should get gnome to come up with default session. Afterwards, you can selectively move settings from the session.bak to the new session file that gnome creates. Make sure that after removing your session file, you logout of gnome properly and check the box for saving settings. Art Ross wrote: > Just today, GNOME crashed for one of my user accounts. I've tried > several times to bring it back up without success. There were some > symptoms over the last several weeks. On my Linux box, I boot into > runlevel 3. When executing, 'startx' for this account the Xserver would > begin, crash and return to the command line. If I tried to start > GNOME a second or third time, it would start. Well, now it won't start > at all. What has happened? I can start KDE within this account so it > isn't the Xserver. It acts like it is something with my GNOME > configuration. > Other accounts are able to start GNOME without any trouble. > Thanks for the assistance. > Art > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Wed Mar 7 09:45:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4A2BD60 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GNHAV9T5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:21 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVTZFL; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:20 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14afBV-0000It-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:01 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: window manager Message-ID: <20010307094501.H29825@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. I'm running Ximian Gnome with Sawmill. Currently when I go into the control panel, it says that Sawmill is not running, but it obviously is. Is this a known problem with a fix? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:06:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3B2E18F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:07:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:07:27 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From bfrench@apt302.com Wed Mar 7 12:17:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bfrench (node-64-248-39-189.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.39.189]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9412BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.248.39.189] by bfrench (ArGoSoft Mail Server Plus for WinNT/2000, Version 1.4 (1.4.0.8)); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307121807.024ff018@www.apt302.com> X-Sender: bfrench@www.apt302.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:18:18 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: brian french Subject: Configure and launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hey, i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i have to before i launch it. please help, thanx Brian From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113D42E245 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahn0-000480-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:31:54 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Hoto change bg picture without settings applet?? Message-ID: <20010307183154.B15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mads.randstoft@tellabs.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:50:56PM +0100, mads.randstoft@tellabs.com wrote: > Now I want the picture to change, say, every hour but how do i make gnome > update the picture it has as background?? > > I have now used "background-properties-capplet -b .background/background.jpg" > but then every time it happens, the settings windows apear and I have to shut > it down... Hehue, never did it this way .-) > How can I update the background image without that hastle?? "wmsetbg" if you have windowmaker installed. "Esetroot" if you have got E(term) installed. > And are there any such programs already out there?? (I have looked through > freshmeat for a program to change my background images from the net on regular > intervals, but have found no such thing...) Have you tried ChBg for doing it the conventional way from the disk? -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 7 12:34:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA2232BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13240 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from b808d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.141) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 17:34:21 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14ahqa-00048X-00 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:35:36 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from mike@cyborg-group.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but it is one ,-) > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > stable than evolution > - so why the choice Hm, I think that a file manager is a much more important and much more single part of a desktop -- there are not many good GUI filemanagers out there and therefore they/we might have thought that nautilus should be shipped with it. I dunno, if evolution aims to be shipped with final GNOME 1.4 at all -- never heard of a release target for GNOME 1.4 like Nautilus' one. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 12:48:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27Hqvk02193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:52:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: Fatih Demir Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net>; from kabalak@gmx.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:35:36PM +0100 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > This is not meant as a flame but >=20 > it is one ,-) >=20 > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > evolution is not > >=20 > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > stable than evolution My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer w= hen both are installed. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnV4ADZzJ5PZfaMRAnSBAJ4ute5jjtXOE/7rRaWsFOszD2iVDQCcCs8p 5MTWZzMUCNdxcO8IulWStnY= =nDKK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nEsDIrWrg+hrB7l1-- From flavio@conectiva.com.br Wed Mar 7 13:00:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (brutus.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761BA2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by barney.distro.conectiva (Postfix, from userid 726) id 7785D27365; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:59:24 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307145924.A30464@conectiva.com.br> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com>; from tanner@real-time.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:52:56AM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > >=20 > > it is one ,-) > >=20 > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta whi= le > > > evolution is not > > >=20 > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution >=20 > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer= when > both are installed. so I have the same question! Why? > --=20 > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 >=20 --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqmdvwACgkQiRDznl8DCoAqdQCcCOFgYdDVjm4zNo+gEEQRIIV3 l50An22NasOZguRGsg6O+tQsGd2mmGad =cxmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From sullivan@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:01:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE2F2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (gecko.eazel.com [10.10.100.11]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UA3500.2HA; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:01:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 From: John Sullivan Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting Fatih Demir (kabalak@gmx.net): > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:46:19PM +0000, mike wrote: > > > This is not meant as a flame but > > > > it is one ,-) > > > > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > > > evolution is not > > > > > > To my mind nautilus is far father away from being feature complete and > > > stable than evolution > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility problems should be rare or absent. John > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BA92BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IC7002307; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com>; from sullivan@eazel.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:59:13AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bo= nobo > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibili= ty > problems should be rare or absent. The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pnn2ADZzJ5PZfaMRAsYWAJwLaGTLiTo+WDLH1XL/yfaVrJXa5QCfeDtO pMuzeI/BGQnp+zC6NjOR0n4= =2dpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:18:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835402BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aiVq-0000UV-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:18:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:18:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > problems should be rare or absent. > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 13:23:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205172BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27IRvE02841; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:21AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. Hmm, care to share versions? $ uname -a Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 $ nautilus nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info= _init >=20 > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to th= e Bonobo > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compati= bility > > > problems should be rare or absent. > >=20 > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > --=20 > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com >=20 --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pn2sADZzJ5PZfaMRAhO3AJ9Nf7lltKdf7x2az3zFwQ7bMWoASACfez1m QinwwAOXfG7TWaWMD8yUZ4w= =1pNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l-- From darin@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 13:27:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808DD2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:27:03 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Cc: John Sullivan , , "J. Daniel Powell" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/7/01 10:27 AM, Bob Tanner at tanner@real-time.com wrote: > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 Here's your problem. These packages that claim to be gnome-vfs-2.0 are actually packages made from gnome-vfs HEAD, and are too old for Nautilus. -- Darin From jfleck@inkstain.net Wed Mar 7 13:27:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A82BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08574; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Bob Tanner Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus In-Reply-To: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > both are installed. > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy development, you should expect it to behave like unstable software that's still under heavy development. In this case, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, the problems come from the mix of bonobo, Nautilus and Evolution, all of which have been under heavy development and have been rapidly changing, making it difficult to create a snapshot where all three worked well together at any one time. That is changing. If you want stable software, wait until the developers have finished writing it. Cheers, John From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 13:29:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD1A2BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14aih4-0000hB-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:29:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 10:29:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST 2001 i686 unknown [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > $ uname -a > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > $ nautilus > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > -- > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > J. Daniel Powell > > dan@olliance.com > > > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 7 13:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30702BB92 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14aio6-0000ea-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: jacob berkman To: mike Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:37:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 06 Mar 2001 13:46:19 +0000, mike wrote: > This is not meant as a flame but > > I cannot understand why nautilus is present in the gnome 1.4 beta while > evolution is not since around last august, evolution was not targeted for gnome 1.4 (since it was supposed to come out last november, and evoultion wasn't going to be done enough in time). since the release has slipped until now, evolution could have been a candidate for 1.4, but the evo team didn't want to commit to this, so that they had enough time to get out a really featureful and stable email client. on the plus side, with the libraries being frozen for 1.4, evo and nautilus library incompatibilities will be gone. jacob -- "The people who made the Macintosh produced a miracle, but that doesn't mean their code was wonderful." -- Bob Cringely From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 14:03:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from enchanter.real-time.com (enchanter.real-time.com [206.10.252.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585802BDA8 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by enchanter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27J3ex25076; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:03:40 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307130340.A28874@real-time.com> Mail-Followup-To: jfleck@inkstain.net, Fatih Demir , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jfleck@inkstain.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:18:19AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Quoting jfleck@inkstain.net (jfleck@inkstain.net): > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > > My question is why can't nautilus and evolution WORK on the same computer when > > both are installed. > > > > I'm more than a little frustrated by this continuing complaint. Make it an FAQ. It would save me from having to ask, save you the fustration of having to explain it (again) and it will save someone else from having to ask it next week. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Wed Mar 7 15:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ACE2BCBD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27Kf1H26101; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:41:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103072041.f27Kf1H26101@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: A few general questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Jeff Waugh Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> References: <200103060721.f267LYH01906@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <01030621085102.01191@vulcan> <200103070411.f274B9H04201@mail.ac.hmc.edu> <20010307181653.Q2790@aphid.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 12:40:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 07 Mar 2001 18:16:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Yuck. I've never used drawrs but now I see what you mean. I run with a 24 > > pixel panel, but the drawer is still 48 pixels thick. > > Grab the Gnome 1.4 beta and do some testing. :) Drawers have almost the same > property dialogues as panels... Including size. cool. > > > Therefore, if I'm logged in as Joe_Blow and I can see something > > > on "my" GUI, I should be able to change / delete / add to it as > > > I see fit, as Joe_Blow. However, nothing Joe does to his GUI > > > should have an impact on anyone else. > > That is in fact how everything works... Just not with the main menu items. Right. Does anyone have a UI reason that this is the way things work or is this the behavior only because it's easy to code? > > I know users can create their own menus but wouldn't it make more sense to > > allow users to configure the main menu for themselves? > > The patches will be warmly accepted, I'm sure. :) Don't hold your breath. ;-) --Ben From tanner@real-time.com Wed Mar 7 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from transmuter.real-time.com (unknown [63.108.168.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378D2CA1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tanner@localhost) by transmuter.real-time.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f27L3Od05674; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600 From: Bob Tanner To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus Message-ID: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Reply-To: tanner@real-time.com Mail-Followup-To: "J. Daniel Powell" , John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dan@olliance.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:29:57AM -0800 X-Comment: "First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Ghandi Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... >=20 > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, ca= n you give me a url? I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SR= PM is around somewhere. --=20 Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint =3D 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqIcADZzJ5PZfaMRAhWbAJ4/cMFveNrxEDKLbLfzg1tuAqQwmACfdsNq WrQGXtNTidMMW9n6AkszkdA= =c+UL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From dan@olliance.com Wed Mar 7 16:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.olliance.com (nsqw.olliance.com [63.150.52.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6C52DC1F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.175] (helo=dhcp-175.sfo.lan ident=dan) by mail.olliance.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14alGy-0003g6-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:15:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus From: "J." Daniel Powell To: tanner@real-time.com Cc: John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> <20010307150324.A1278@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 07 Mar 2001 13:15:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpmftp:// ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/RedHat-7/gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2.i386.rpm On 07 Mar 2001 15:03:24 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... > > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > > 2001 i686 unknown > > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > > I cannot seem to find the .i386.rpm or the .src.rpm for gnome-vfs-0.5.0, can you > give me a url? > > I checked out the GNOME-VFS_0_5 tag from CVS, but I was wondering if the SRPM is > around somewhere. > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > -- J. Daniel Powell dan@olliance.com From bart@eazel.com Wed Mar 7 20:25:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0A2D3E4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (null.eazel.com [10.10.100.23]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UUN500.BFR; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA6DFA1.2B0B61BD@eazel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:25:53 -0800 From: Bart Decrem Reply-To: bart@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Daniel Powell" Cc: tanner@real-time.com, John Sullivan , gnome-list@gnome.org, tom@eazel.com Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: <20010307183536.C15850@gmx.net> <20010307115256.I1434@real-time.com> <3AA676F1.1790C335@eazel.com> <20010307121206.K1434@real-time.com> <20010307122756.P1434@real-time.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "J. Daniel Powell" wrote: > I said I had to use the gnome-vfs packages from 1.4beta. This is where > red-carpet really falls down, in my opinion, I found no way to install > an old package using red-carpet, I had to manually download the rpm and > install it by hand. Hopefully this feature will be added.... Eazel's launching a revamped software catalog on Monday. One of the great things about the catalog organization is that we can show many different versions of the same package and Nautilus users will be able to auto-install arbitrary versions (module conflict management of course). I count 9 different versions of GNOME-VFS that are available in the softcat that launches on Monday. You can find the catalog at http://www.eazel.com/catalog - easy installation is available to Nautilus users. Cheers, Bart > > > [dan@osprey dan]$ uname -a > Linux osprey.sfo.lan 2.2.17-14enterprise #1 SMP Mon Feb 5 15:37:30 EST > 2001 i686 unknown > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > gnome-vfs-0.5-0_helix_2 > gnome-vfs-devel-0.5-0_helix_2 > [dan@osprey dan]$ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:27:56 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > Quoting J. Daniel Powell (dan@olliance.com): > > > I'm currently able to use the snapshot of evolution with the nautilus > > > provided in the gnome 1.4beta channel successfully. The only thing I > > > had to do was use the gnome 1.4beta gnome-vfs and gnome-vfs-devel > > > packages, otherwise I'm using all of the evolution snapshot channel and > > > all of the gnome 1.4beta channel. This is on a RedHat 7.0 i686 system. > > > > Hmm, care to share versions? > > > > $ uname -a > > Linux 2.4.1 #3 Fri Feb 9 12:47:37 CST 2001 i686 unknown > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep gnome-vfs > > gnome-vfs-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > gnome-vfs-devel-2.0-100_helix_2001020808 > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep nautilus > > nautilus-devel-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-trilobite-0.8-0_helix_3 > > nautilus-mozilla-0.8-0_helix_3 > > > > $ nautilus > > nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: > > /usr/lib/libnautilus-extensions.so.0: undefined symbol: gnome_vfs_file_info_init > > > > > > > > > > On 07 Mar 2001 12:12:06 -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > > > > Quoting John Sullivan (sullivan@eazel.com): > > > > > The compatibility problems have been caused by frequent changes to the Bonobo > > > > > API, which both use. Now that the Bonobo API is stable, these compatibility > > > > > problems should be rare or absent. > > > > > > > > The snapshot available from Redcarpet do not work together. > > > > -- > > > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > J. Daniel Powell > > > dan@olliance.com > > > > > > > -- > > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 > > > > -- > J. Daniel Powell > dan@olliance.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From shochat@acm.org Wed Mar 7 22:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88DE2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f283GK617767; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA6F9DB.20809@acm.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:17:47 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010303 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian french Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Configure and launch References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010307120444.00b1cfe8@www.ematic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion brian french wrote: > hey, > > i am new to linus, and i already love it, it's great, but i have a > question, i installed gnome via redhat, and now i can't figure out how > to launch it. If i type in startx it loads XFree86 and not gnome and > i also was wondering how to configure Xwindows and gnome and if i > have to before i launch it. please help, For RedHat, runlevel 5 would run gdm on boot-up, (also running X) which would give a graphical login screen that should run gnome on login. To do that, edit /etc/inittab, changing the line: id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: If you don't want that (i.e. if you want the system to come up in text mode), you should be able to get startx to launch (X and) gnome by modifying your ~/.xinitrc. If you don't have one, copy /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc. From what you are saying, it may end up with something like: twm & xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 & xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 & exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login Try replacing all that with: exec gnome-session From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Wed Mar 7 22:51:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFF2BCA4 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.1]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25556; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:45 -0500 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial047.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.32.47]) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA60308; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA701C7.1080601@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:51:35 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jfleck@inkstain.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Question re: evolution/nautilus References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > If you want to use unstable software that's still under heavy > development, you should expect it to behave like unstable > software that's still under heavy development. ... > If you want stable software, wait until the developers have > finished writing it. Wouldn't be a very busy mailing list if we all did that! 8^) I've been wishing someone would make this point. But I expect a lot of people will learn it like I did, the hard way. Brett Castleberry From backes@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de Thu Mar 8 01:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uni-kl.de (mail.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2802BB74 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (IDENT:root@hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de [131.246.91.18]) by mail.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f286ksH00109; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:46:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from backes@localhost) by hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f286l5j20227; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:47:05 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Joachim Backes Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Computer Center [Supercomputing division] From: Joachim Backes To: GNOME Subject: libgnomeui - About Dialog Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) then I get a Gtk+ error msg: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi dget)' failed. I'm using glade for making the app. Reason? Regards Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes | Univ. of Kaiserslautern Computer Center, Supercomputing Division | Phone: +49-631-205-2438 D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany | Fax: +49-631-205-3056 ---------------------------------------------+------------------------ WWW: http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 8 03:13:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E867B2BC92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Received: from r1739.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.25.215) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 08:12:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:13:23 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Joachim Backes Cc: GNOME Subject: Re: libgnomeui - About Dialog In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Joachim Backes wrote: > it seems that if a GnomeAboutDialog is popped up, and the OK button > is pressed, the GnomeAboutDialog widget is deleted, because: If I try to > popup the GnomeAboutDialog again by > > gtk_widget_show(my_about_dialog) > > then I get a Gtk+ error msg: > > Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1425 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (wi > dget)' failed. > > I'm using glade for making the app. Well, GnomeAboutDialog is a fire&forget dialog. You don't need to free it after creation, but also shouldn't hold a reference to it. Just create it every time you want to show it. Regards, Jens From ascholer@ISI.EDU Tue Mar 6 20:54:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nitro.isi.edu (nitro.isi.edu [128.9.208.207]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547212DF4B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute (lsanca1-ar6-026-159.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.26.159]) by nitro.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f271ot601361 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:50:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> From: "Andrew Scholer" To: Subject: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 09:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B41522BBE7 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA28260; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:32 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella Reply-To: Donald Tournier To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Open a gnome-terminal and type lots of stuff so that you have a good screenful of lines. Type emacs -nw, and open a largish text file (C-x C-f to open a file). You can then scroll around the file in emacs using PgUp/PgDn. Using the shift modifier, it scrolls around the terminal itself, which is not really what you want. If gnome-terminal grabbed the PgUp/PgDn keys, they would not be available to applications like emacs and they would have to use awkward key combinations, so you have to make some form of compromise somewhere. Hope that helps, Donald Tournier. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andrew Scholer wrote: Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize it (including other gnome aps). Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key different than just about everything else out there. Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a pain to switch keys when paging around in emacs and then I switch to a gnome-terminal. You can attribute that to my stupidity if you want, but even so the UI really shouldn't let it come down to my stupidity. It is one thing for random programs I download off someone's homepage to have an uncommon or confusing UI, but in an application from a group that is trying to make Linux easier to use is just mind boggling. Yes, it is a simple, small complaint. But that's what makes a good user experience - nailing all those simple, small things. Andrew Scholer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 8 09:28:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572142E337 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28EWBg22221 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010308143211.A22167@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute>; from ascholer@ISI.EDU on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? It's in the FAQ. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > it (including other gnome aps). > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > different than just about everything else out there. Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used mailer, include: previous-page move to the previous page next-page move to the next page And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar gets me the weirdest result when I try it. There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's help. I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! Telsa From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 10:28:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B892DE78 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16560; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Andrew Scholer Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal the interface. NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Thu Mar 8 13:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3355E2BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRQ8LAC3; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:19:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3AA7CD47.7B5E6C6E@biology.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:19:51 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: <20010308170529.90ACF2E307@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can live with the shift-pgup approach. What I want to do is define a key to move just one line at a time. I can do this in xterm, but not apparently in gnome-terminal. I asked Miguel de Icaza if this kind of thing was modifiable in gnome-terminal and he thought not without recompiling: > HAEFNER > > ... Obviously someone has attached > > the "shift-pageup" key to a gnome-terminal function (scrollback 1 page). > > How is that done? Is there a ".gnometerminalrc" file somewhere? > MIQUEL > I think this is hardcoded into the Zvt widgets or the gnome-terminal > source code. > > best wishes, > Miguel. Does any one out there know if I can define shift-uparrow to be move back one line in the gnome-terminal buffer? -Jim Haefner --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:11 +0000 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 or thereabouts, Andrew Scholer wrote: > > Could someone please explain to the unwashed heathen (aka me), why > > gnome-terminal wants shift-PgUp to scroll up a page? > > It's in the FAQ. > > http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html > > Linkname: PgUp and PgDn don't work in gnome-terminal. > URL: http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/using.html#AEN782 > > > The key says "Page Up", not "Jump to the top of the previous command list" > > (at least on my keyboard). The PgUp/Down key causes a screen to scroll a > > pageful of material for each key press in most applications that recognize > > it (including other gnome aps). > > > > Why in the world does gnome-terminal have this bizzare setup as the default, > > and apparently only, configuration? I'm sure there are some people out there > > who prefer it this way, but it a) makes little to no intuitive sense, b) > > renders the application's behavior in response to this fairly standard key > > different than just about everything else out there. > > Many of us use gnome-terminal and run apps in it which make use of > PgUp/PgDn. For example, the default keybindings for mutt, a widely-used > mailer, include: > previous-page move to the previous page > next-page move to the next page > > And I am writing this reply in the editor 'joe', which also uses PgUp/PgDn. > Inside mutt, inside a gnome-terminal :) > > If gnome-terminal started attempting to use PgUp/PgDn and act as if I had > just used the scrollbar, I would be cross. In fact, using the scrollbar > gets me the weirdest result when I try it. > > There are other things that are different for gnome-terminal. For > example, ^S and ^Q may be keyboard accelerators normally, but in a > terminal they are used for flow-control, and hitting ^S results in > a screen which won't react to the keyboard at all until you hit ^Q... > So for gnome-terminal (only?), out they go. > > > Took me way too long to figure the shift modifier out, and I still find it a > > It's mentioned both in the Gnome FAQ and in gnome-terminal's help, > under Basic Usage/Scrolling on the first page. In its own paragraph. > It's also mentioned in the xterm emulation section of gnome-terminal's > help. > > I'm sorry you didn't find them, but we did try! > > Telsa > > -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 8 13:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB552BE87 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN1P69SQ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:01 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT7RN; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14b53n-0001uE-00 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From len@philpot.org Thu Mar 8 14:02:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E2BBFC for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010308190158.BXMY15172.io@vulcan> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:01:58 -0600 From: "Len Philpot" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:06:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Reply-To: len@philpot.org Message-ID: <3AA783D2.2340.2D1770B@localhost> Priority: normal References: <001301c0a6a8$eaf31690$9762fea9@wintermute> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The idea is that if you allow the gnome-terminal to use the PgUp/PgDn keys > to scroll, then they will not be available to other terminal-based > applications such as emacs or pico. You can try it for yourself: Of course, another approach could be to have the terminal merely host the application's display, whether vi, emacs, bash or whatever and not interfere with anything: Let _each_ app handle all the keyboard IO by itself, the way the app sees fit. That way, any functionality built into each app would be free to function. Basically, the terminal would cease to exist when an app was running (whcih would be all the time; the shell if nothing else). Unfortunately, I've not come across any terminal emulators that do that AFAICT. -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From hp@redhat.com Thu Mar 8 14:45:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76422E3E1 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28JkX708556; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 08 Mar 2001 14:46:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:30:03 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Personally I think its bad bad double-plus bad that Gnome adopted the > "Windows" convention of CTRL = command in the interface. COntrol > characters have a specific ANSI meaning that both Microsoft and the Gnome > team have blythly ignored. This plays havoc with terminal and other > communication apps where it is desirable to send control codes, NOT signal > the interface. > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, which we can't count on. Havoc From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 8 15:44:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FCC2BAB6 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18773; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: Havoc Pennington Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 8 Mar 2001, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > which we can't count on. Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt keyboards could be accomodated. I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From mhoffman1@pdq.net Thu Mar 8 17:25:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0213A2BAC0 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pdq.net from [209.144.229.93] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with esmtp for sender: id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:25:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600 From: mhoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Out-of-control Panel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel is behaving...strangely. First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, because I don't use that option --yet. A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Matthew Hoffman From jfleck@inkstain.net Thu Mar 8 17:54:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580662E45C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11948; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:43 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, mhoffman wrote: > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > I'm not sure I fully understand your description of what's going on, but part of the problem, the loss of minimized icons, is most likely the loss of your tasklist applet. Right-click on the panel, then choose Applets->Utility->Tasklist. That should restart the tasklist, where those minimized icons live. Cheers, John From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 8 21:43:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643452BB71 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292h7H11582; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103090243.f292h7H11582@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc From: Ben FrantzDale To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 18:43:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 13:22:47 -0500, Michael Soulier wrote: > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm not sure exactly what's wrong in your case but I've had times where the control center (Window manager component) thinks one WM is running when really another is... You might try switching WMs and swithcing back to make sure that the control center knows what's going on... That's my only suggestion.... --Ben > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Thu Mar 8 23:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E2C2BB92 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f294SAL13357; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:28:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel From: Stephen "M." Williams To: mhoffman Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 08 Mar 2001 22:26:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600, mhoffman wrote: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. HTH, Steve From wege34@zonnet.nl Thu Mar 8 23:57:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D8452C858 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26984 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO drebbelstraat20) (212.64.94.102) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 04:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:56:26 +0100 From: Mart van de Wege To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-Id: <20010309055626.3f300151.wege34@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> References: <3AA8096B.CEB54C02@pdq.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.9 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion mhoffman schreef op Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:36:28 -0600:: > Greetings, all. I'm running Gnome on Red Hat Linux 7, and my main panel > is behaving...strangely. > > First, the little boxes on the right side that allow you to select other > Gnome "terminals" (or whatever they're called) disappeared > spontaneously. The frame that holds the little buttons remained, but > the buttons themselves disappeared. This isn't a huge problem, however, > because I don't use that option --yet. > > A more annoying development followed. When I minimize a window, the > window doesn't appear as an option in the panel. I can only select it > by going to the pager on the right. Does anyone know what is going on, > or have any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! > > Matthew Hoffman > It gets even more annoying here. I have Ximian 1.4beta in my sources.list, and last night a whole bunch of gnome stuff got upgraded. Funny thing is, like Matthew, my Tasklist is gone, and trying to add it to the panel gives no result. If Matthew is running the beta as well, I think we found a bug here. Mart -- You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE "SOMEONE ELSE." From hp@redhat.com Fri Mar 9 02:04:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from icon.labs.redhat.com (unknown [199.183.24.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B882CE9E for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hp@localhost) by icon.labs.redhat.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2975Xt19646; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: icon.labs.redhat.com: hp set sender to hp@redhat.com using -f To: John Nelson Cc: Andrew Scholer , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? References: From: Havoc Pennington Date: 09 Mar 2001 02:05:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Nelson's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:45:27 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John Nelson writes: > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? > > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. It could certainly make sense to allow configuration of the "command" key, though it would require changes to lots of code, so nontrivial. The reason "Alt" isn't used is that it's used for the "underline accelerators," such as Alt-F to get the file menu. Underline accelerators correspond to a letter in a displayed word, and change when interfaces are translated into other languages. Thus if you use Alt for the regular accelerators also, it's very difficult to avoid collisions between accelerators. Already the underline accelerators are hard, since you have to use one of the letters contained in each word to be accelerated. The Ctrl- accelerators for an app with lots of them such as the Gimp would leave no letters available for the underline accelerators. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. Really the only issue is that you can't have Ctrl- shortcuts in a terminal program, which is kind of lame, but I don't think it's an enormous disaster. FWIW you can't have Alt- shortcuts either, since apps like Emacs also expect to get Alt. So using Alt doesn't help. Only using Hyper or something would really be effective. We could use NumLock, then you could accelerate lots of stuff at once without holding down a key. ;-) Havoc From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:44:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f118.hotmail.com [216.32.181.118]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89272BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: compiling gnome-libs Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2001 10:44:56.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB7DDB60:01C0A885] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All, Has anyone had problems running make check on ORBIT-0.5.6? I received this error (in short) ... file test-dynany.c line 330 (test_array) assertion failed .... Any ideas? Anyway, I ignored to see how the rest of the libs/gnome core stuff would react and there didn't __SEEM__ to be any side affects. BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. TIA -Ants _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 06:07:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk [194.82.241.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E69602BA9A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by stella.ich.ucl.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13684; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:31 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Donald Tournier X-Sender: dtournie@stella To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc In-Reply-To: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to the configurator. These are: /tmp/orbit-username/ /tmp/.sawmill-username/ Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. Hope that solves the problem... Donald Tournier. __________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? I'm using the latest from Ximian. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Fri Mar 9 06:23:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E882BC15 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA08066; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:22:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:23:39 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Anthony Gardner wrote: > BUT ... it seems all is not well when running panel as whenever I try to > access something in the settings I get errors saying such and such > configuration applet could not be found. These seem to be capplets. > > Does any of this ring any bells? If so, could you please help. I had something similar once, due to different prefix/sysconfdir settings. Make sure you compile everything with --sysconfdir=/etc. Maybe this fixes the problem. Regards, Jens From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Fri Mar 9 09:49:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB252DE7F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GSXRT2FD; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F2CVT806; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:35 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14bO3A-0003XI-00 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: sawmill and gnomecc Message-ID: <20010309093924.S6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010308132247.I6406@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dtournie@ich.ucl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, those are good. Well, I logged out and back in and the problem seems to be fixed. Maybe there was a missing .pid file for sawmill or something. Personally, I find the stability of gnome still leaves a lot to be desired. You shouldn't have to log out and back in. Many of the details are starting to get so obscured that it's starting to feel like *shudder* windoze. I truly hope these Linux desktop efforts still keep Unix as the fine product that it is. Cheers, Mike On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:05:30AM +0000, Donald Tournier wrote: > > I've had that problem before. After a lot of playing around, I finally > worked it out: I had just changed my UID, but not my username. But there > are two folders in /tmp that are important to run gnome and sawmill, and I > had lost permission to access them, which is why I didn't have access to > the configurator. These are: > > /tmp/orbit-username/ > /tmp/.sawmill-username/ > > Just make sure that you have ownership and r+w permission to them. > Hope that solves the problem... > > Donald Tournier. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > > Greetings. Currently when I go into gnomecc to modify my sawmill options, > all of the options state "sawfish is not running". They did work, this is a > new problem. Obviously sawmill is in fact running, as I'm using it's features > all the time. So, can anyone suggest a fix for this? > > I'm using the latest from Ximian. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From famrom@idecnet.com Fri Mar 9 12:10:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (61-MADR-X48.libre.retevision.es [62.83.23.61]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA362DCCD for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01169 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:38:21 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: PgUp/PgDown - why Shift??? Message-ID: <20010309153821.A1162@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jnelson@lexonia.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:45:27PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion jnelson@lexonia.com (2001-03-08 at 1545.27 -0500): > > > NeXT and Apple got it right IMO. > > They also had control over the keyboard to add an extra "command" key, > > which we can't count on. > Now this is very true, both Apple and NeXT had control over the keyboard, > however don't most keyboards today have an "alt" or "windows" (blech) key? Some, maybe, all, no. And some of us, are already using it for other things, ie window manager tasks, so no too (now that I have found a job for them, and that I can handle windows via keyboard, it would be a step back ;] ). > And even if an older "non-alt" keyboard were being used doesn't it make > more sense to allow the user the flexibility to select the keyboard > mapping from a set of radio buttons? That way both alt and non-alt > keyboards could be accomodated. Hehehe, X is not just two options, mapping is not just that, I have Hyper, others have Meta, the other guy will have whatever he wants. > I guess its easier to just use CTRL and have done with it. I really loath > using CTRL as a command key though. It makes no sense in a Linux > environment where terminal interaction (e.g. "vi" editor, terminal > communications, emacs, etc) rely on that CTRL key. IIRC, MacOS does not use Alt to open menus, but MS Windows does. An app that does this under Linux is NS4, all is done via Alt. On the other hand, how do you open a menu without a mouse in MacOS (or in NS4)? How would it be opened if GNOME uses Alt instead of Ctrl? Alt+Space and then single keys (the underlined letters)? And what would happen in consoles if the running app wants Alt+Space (or the keycombo that becomes elected as "go to menu")? Tricky land. :[ GSR From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 19:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E4B42DB57 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.28.27] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:14:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams: Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! Matt On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > HTH, > > Steve From jfleck@inkstain.net Fri Mar 9 19:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jello.inkstain.net (shell.inkstain.net [206.29.130.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1AB2DEED for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jello (mail [206.29.130.67]) by jello.inkstain.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15413; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: X-Sender: jfleck@jello To: Matthew Hoffman Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel In-Reply-To: <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > Mr. Williams: > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > Matt - Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on gnome-hackers: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html John From mhoffman1@pdq.net Fri Mar 9 22:55:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061582DF87 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.227.186] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: More Gnome strangeness Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030922063100.01486@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've got some more strangeness on my hands... After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! Matthew Hoffman From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Fri Mar 9 23:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69E2E22F for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id WAA09977; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A3xDw01189; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:59:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9A452.7070406@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:49:38 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody,
when I try to build any debian package the  ${shlibs:Depends}  statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file.  I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff.
  And something else...  the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run  dh_make -l
If you know how to solve any of these, please help.
Thanks  -SCUD
From simon@burble.net Fri Mar 9 23:22:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from burble.net (adsl-63-201-63-134.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.134]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45F2C863 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from galactica (adsl-64-169-66-92.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.66.92]) by burble.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30009 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:33:55 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Simon M. C. Butler" To: Subject: newbie question Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager my issues are: 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. appreciate any tips. rgds. -simon- From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 00:07:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459642BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.230.102] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams , mhoffman1@pdq.net Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103090428.f294SAL13357@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01030918254901.01076@localhost.localdomain> <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103100343.f2A3hHL15385@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030923175400.00780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yes, it is the desk guide (that is the name that comes up in "properties" when I right-click on it), so that much is certain. As you can see from my other recent message, I'm experiencing a lot of strangeness from my Gnome, including KDE icons mysteriously appearing on the desktop, then disappearing when I leave and restart X. I'm afraid I have a virus. Matthew Hoffman On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > Hmm, > > Not sure what you're talking about then. I though (in hope) that > you were referring to the desk guide :) If you could possibly > provide more description I and others might be able to help! Have > you checked the bug as mentioned by John? > > > Steve > > On 09 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Mr. Williams: > > > > Thanks for your time. I changed those settings as you advised, but it didn't > > fix the problem; is there something else I might need to do? Thanks again! > > > > Matt > > > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > > > > > I think (and this is purely a guess) that you're referring to the desk > > > guide applet. It's the applet on the panel that allows you to select > > > different desktops. It sounds like you've set it up for 1 row and 1 > > > column of desktops. Right-click inside the "frame", select properties, > > > click the geometry tab, and see if you have the rows and columns of > > > desktops set to more than one. If not, increase them. The default (I > > > believe) is 2 rows by 2 columns. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 00:08:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEA62BF2E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From chultquist@alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za Sat Mar 10 07:47:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.uct.ac.za (mail.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE872C8B5 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za ([137.158.133.133]) by mail.uct.ac.za with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bimD-0000br-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +0200 Received: from pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za (mail@pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.108]) by alfonzo.smuts.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18359 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:45:43 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=carl) by pc101.smuts.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14bikG-0006Zf-00 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:45:16 +0200 Subject: Taslklist: assertion failed? From: Carl Hultquist To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.09.15.02 - Preview Release) Date: 10 Mar 2001 14:45:14 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi I'm using a Debian system and recently upgraded my packages which included an upgrade of Gnome. Most of the Gnome packages (notably gnome-core and libpanel-applet0) are on version 1.3.1.1 now according to my system. Whenever I try to load up a tasklist applet, it doesn't work and instead produces a small black pixel on my panel. Running 'panel' from a term and trying this again, I get the following error message in the term: ** CRITICAL **: file goad.c: line 844 (goad_server_activate_shlib): assertion `i' failed. If I load up goad-browser and try to activate the tasklist there, it gives the same error. Using dpkg, I've found that goad-browser (and hence possibly goad.c) belong to package gnome-bin but I can't locate the source for this and so can't try to resolve the problem myself! Any ideas? Ciao Carl From jocknerd@home.com Sat Mar 10 13:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mulder.self.hom (cx23684-a.chspk1.va.home.com [24.4.151.54]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363772DD99 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mulder.self.hom (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with ESMTP id f2AI1st05839 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: mulder.self.hom: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Self X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. Here's my list of problems: 1. Can't change themes because I can't make any changes inside of Control Panel with Sawfish. Everything else in Control Panel works though. 2. Desk guide doesn't work. I can try and add it, but all that shows up is a little dot on my panel. Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome packages have been replaced by gnome packages. This is the second time in the last month this has happened. It never happened before. I thnik the ximian developers are spending all their time on Evolution and Red carpet and they aren't keeping up with gnome now. Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sat Mar 10 15:08:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0B22BB31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2AKCak02761 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 GMT Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:12:36 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Message-ID: <20010310201236.A1833@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jocknerd@home.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, Jeff Self wrote: > I saw that some of you are having similar problems to me. > Here's my list of problems: I don't get this pair, but I haven't updated recently. > Don't know whats wrong with #1 but #2 is probably because when I ran an > update on my system which runs Debian, it updated my ximian-gnome > packages with regular gnome packages because they are now newer than > the ximian-gnome packages. Therefore, most of my ximian-gnome > packages have been replaced by gnome packages. [snip] > Plus they changed locations of the packages for gnome 1.4 beta 1. So my > helix-gnome stuff was not updating and my packages were being replaced > with the regular gnome. I wonder if the same thing is happening again and > I just don't know where to get the updated packages from. I think the decision to put the beta packages separate was so that people didn't run apt-get and get them by mistake. I think this was a good decision. Beta software is, well. Beta :) I haven't seen packages of later Gnome betas though. I probably avoided the mix and match because I added the beta line to apt/sources.list, and commented out all the normal ones, because I had not updated in a good while. I didn't want to get bogged down in all the other stuff; I just wanted the beta packages. So I ran apt-get with just the Ximian lines visible, not the main Debian ones; and then uncommented the main Debian ones again. This was sheer "make things easy by avoiding upgrading loads at once" behaviour, but it seems to have saved me from quite a few problems. Telsa From scud_mlist@seznam.cz Sat Mar 10 15:15:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Mail.austin.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE122DB9C for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by Mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:15:13 -0600 Received: from mail pickup service by sm11.texas.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:06:11 -0600 Received: from sm4.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.211]) by mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:12:25 -0600 Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) by sm4.texas.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2A59hs06781 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:09:44 -0600 Received: (qmail 11737 invoked by uid 38); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:59 -0000 X-Envelope-Sender: scud_mlist@seznam.cz Received: (qmail 11701 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.160) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 05:08:58 -0000 Received: from tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (tot-tk.proxy.aol.com [152.163.206.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA12205; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from seznam.cz (AC9996F6.ipt.aol.com [172.153.150.246]) by tot-tk.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2A58Mw13646; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA9B472.7010708@seznam.cz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:26 -0800 From: scud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: cs, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome mailing list , Debian user mailing list Subject: ${shlibs:Depends} problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Mowepdx@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/137254 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody, when I try to build any debian package the ${shlibs:Depends} statement in control file seems not to work. The place in "Depends:" line, where the xlib,... should be listed, is free. dh_shlibdepends and dh_gencontrol are present in "rules" file. I'm working with debian potato. Trying to build glib, gtk+, and other Gnome stuff. And something else... the "dh_movefiles" line in "rules" is missing "#" char every time I run dh_make -l If you know how to solve any of these, please help. Thanks -SCUD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:35:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A559D2BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Stephen "M." Williams Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:44:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How do you do it? Thanks, Matthew On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Stephen "M." Williams wrote: > How did you install Gnome? Was it using RPMs or did you compile it? > What version of Gnome are you running, 1.2 or 1.4 beta? > > Steve > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared on my Gnome > > screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and went back in, and the KDE > > icons were gone. > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable alternate > > sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I deal with it? > > Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! > > > > Matthew Hoffman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sat Mar 10 18:36:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459932BDBB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.223.26.141] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: Subject: Re: Out-of-control Panel Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:07:31 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "Stephen M. Williams" , gnome-list@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031012222500.01011@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Mr. Williams and all: I checked out the bug report, but it doesn't seem to fit my problem, because the reported segmentation fault shuts down the whole panel, and in my case only the tasklist applet disappeared (and now, happily, has been restored). However, I may be getting to the bottom of this in some respects. I've found that my KDE icons are always put on the desktop if I exit Netscape Communicator from the newsreader (I can get rid of them by sending a kill signal to the PID for the the kfm). I've found other bugs like this in my Linux Netscape Comm. package, and I'll send reports to Netscape. However, I still can't fix my desk guide. Also On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, jfleck@inkstain.net wrote: > > Another possibility - you may be having the bug described in this email on > gnome-hackers: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-March/msg00112.html > > John From eli@eazel.com Sat Mar 10 20:19:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712B2CF34 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (prometheus.eazel.com [10.10.100.68]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GA0EBZ00.NZE; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAAD359.C792AF37@eazel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:22:33 -0800 From: Eli Goldberg Reply-To: eli@eazel.com Organization: Eazel, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, nautilus-test@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day: Sunday March 11th (20:00 UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Join members of the Nautilus community this Sunday (tomorrow) for the final Nautilus 1.0 Bug Day. You too can come and... - Discover terrifying bugs in the final candidate builds! - Experience a successful Nautilus installation through the Eazel Installer on your Red Hat 6.2 or 7.0 system! (*) - Watch Eazel staff members die of panic attacks! To join in the excitement, visit #nautilus on irc.gnome.org, starting at Sunday 20:00 UTC (12:00 PDT), and probably ending around Monday 4:00 UTC. (*) - This thrill will be subject to Eskil & Robey pulling off a miracle today. ;) From bighead@crosswinds.net Sat Mar 10 21:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.94.251.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A762D2D6 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bighead@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01162; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:18:07 +0530 Message-Id: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: bighead set sender to bighead@crosswinds.net using -f From: Archit Baweja To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Archit Baweja From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sun Mar 11 01:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22792BA85 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA19318 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA10719 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA12987 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id BAA25206; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: GNOME: Pilot, Calendar Addressbook Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm having problem building Gnome-pim.1.3.2. The following are the problems that I got: calendar-conduit.c:45: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.c:46: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory In file included from calendar-conduit.c:53: calendar-conduit.h:39: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit.h: No such file or directory calendar-conduit.h:40: gpilotd/gnome-pilot-conduit-standard-abs.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [calendar-conduit.lo] Error 1 Could somebody help? a. From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:39:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74752BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAh3P11219 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:43:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: More Gnome strangeness Message-ID: <20010311104303.A11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103101757.f2AHvHL05062@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01031017465101.01011@localhost.localdomain>; from mhoffman1@pdq.net on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:44:48PM -0600 or thereabouts, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > My Gnome was installed at the time of my general Red Hat distro > installation, so I would think it was installed using RPM. I hate to say > this, but I tried to determine what verison I'm running, and can't. How > do you do it? It's annoying, isn't it? :) There's no easy "what is this version of Gnome?" in the menu. There is a gnome-about program you can run at the command-line in a gnome-terminal, but that's just the credits for GNOME and doesn't have the version of Gnome in it. "System info" on the menu doesn't have it either. I usually suggest just checking the version of gnome-core and gnome-libs. This gets complicated because some distros use different names for them. But "rpm -q gnome-core gnome-libs" will work on RH. "dpkg -l gnome-core" works on Debian, but I forget the package name for what I call gnome-libs. RH 7.0 came with Gnome 1.2. I know, because I have it too. As to the original problem: > > > > On 09 Mar 2001 22:02:48 -0600, Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > > I've got some more strangeness on my hands... > > > > > > After exiting Netscape Navigator, a bunch of KDE icons appeared > > > on my Gnome screen spontaneously. I got out of Gnome and X, and > > > went back in, and the KDE icons were gone. > > > > > > Is this, in combination with my disappearing task bar and unvailable > > > alternate sessions of Gnome, sounding like a virus? If so, how can I > > > deal with it? Again, I'm running Red Hat Linux 7 on an x86. Thanks! It sounds more like Netscape weirdness to me, but I am biassed. I have had Netscape do weird things to my machine and I like to blame everything on it. Disappearing taskbar: is this the bar at the bottom of the screen? That's the Gnome panel. If you have a terminal you can type into, "panel &" should either restore it, or whinge that you already have a panel running. If you have a panel running (allegedly), then Gnome is confused. The panel will have said "hello, I exist" to Gnome. It's then supposed to say "I'm going away now" when it stops running. But sometimes it dies without saying that and Gnome thinks it's still there. This business of getting the "But a panel is already running!" message when there is a conspicuous lack of a panel used to occur, but I really thought it had been fixed by Gnome 1.2. I'm not sure about unavailable alternate sessions. This sounds like you are logging in through gdm, the Gnome display manager (aka "the graphical login prompt". I believe that offers choices of sessions? I don't use this so I can't really offer much help here. Telsa From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 11 05:45:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulexite.lion-access.net (ulexite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC1A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust204.tnt22.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.138.204]) by ulexite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 657EAFAFF2 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:44:44 -0100 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Three stupid questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse TFM) 1. How can I change the gdm background image? 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu for instance)? 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the graphics to look good to :-) Thank you all in advance! From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 05:45:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F4A2BF29 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BAnYO11248 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:49:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Making Nautilus the default file manager. Message-ID: <20010311104934.B11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110248.IAA01162@localhost.localdomain>; from bighead@crosswinds.net on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0530 or thereabouts, Archit Baweja wrote: > Hi > > Well I thought that with Gnome 1.4, gmc would be nuked (forever). But as I > have found, it is still there. And despite nautilus being there in the > Gnome 1.4beta2, gmc is still the _default_ file manager which is started on > startup. So how can I make gnome-session start nautilus from the beginning, > and not gmc. Some configuration file? or something? Gmc is the default for people who have already been using Gnome. If it's a new account, then Nautilus will start. (I think.) First kill off gmc, then start nautilus. Like this: open control-center ->Session properties and startup programs ->startup programs (tab) ->browse currently-running programs...(button) ->find and highlight (left-click on) "gmc --sm-config-blah blah" ->change the "style" from Respawn to Normal (button at top) ->click "remove". Bye-bye, gmc. Now you have no file manager. Start nautilus off the foot menu. Now you have nautilus. You can't kill off gmc any more easily because of that "respawn" option. That means "if I die, restart me immediately". The panel has that respawn thing too. So killing off at the command line will just result in it dying and respawning. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 06:16:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAD12BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BBK3B11383 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:20:03 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Three stupid questions Message-ID: <20010311112003.F11158@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:49:06AM +0100 or thereabouts, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) :) > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? I don't use it, but you'll probably need to edit the gdm.conf file which I expect is in /etc/X11/gdm/. You will find TFM at http://www.mkp.net/~mkp/gdm/gdm.pdf > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? control-center->panel->menu. Turn "applets" to "in a submenu" or "off", whichever. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue Don't use that, either. Sorry. Telsa From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 11 06:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (plato.exmail.de [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5302BB23 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25087 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Received: from r678.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.21.170) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 11:17:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:18:32 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Pim Schellart Cc: Subject: Re: Three stupid questions In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Pim Schellart wrote: > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? Look into /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default (or create it if it's not there). This is a simple shell script which is called at startup. E.g. I use: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xsetroot -solid "#5971a5" to set a solid background color. But you can also use xv or another program to set a background image. Some people start the matrix screensaver on the root window. > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? Right click on the foot icon and select 'properties' then. This opens a nice configuration dialog, which is propably what you want. > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the > middle but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a > window manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I > want the graphics to look good to :-) Sorry, don't use enlightenment. Regards, Jens From rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Sun Mar 11 08:53:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca [128.100.8.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258222CAED for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from skule.ecf (rivet@skule.ecf [128.100.8.6]) by cannon.ecf.utoronto.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21833 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (rivet@localhost) by skule.ecf (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA276703684 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: skule.ecf: rivet owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Desmond Rivet X-Sender: rivet@skule.ecf To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: updater Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I have to download something new to get more updates? TIA, ---------------------------------------------- Desmond Rivet rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca Eng Sci 0T0 + PEY rivet_d@hotmail.com You live and learn, or you don't live long From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 09:35:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BDF2CAB7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BEcdJ12030 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:38:39 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: updater Message-ID: <20010311143839.B11981@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rivet@ecf.utoronto.ca on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 08:53:40AM -0500 or thereabouts, Desmond Rivet wrote: > > I have the old helix updater, but there hasn't been any updates in a > while. Does this have something to do with the recent name change? Do I > have to download something new to get more updates? One of the helix/ximian lists would be better for this, but oh well :) I gather there have not been that many new updates for a while. There are only so many people working at Ximian, and they have also been building RC, XST, Evolution, and the packages for the first beta (which were on a different site so that people wouldn't accidentally upgrade stable working versions to unstable beta stuff). Just to add to the mix, there was an office move in the middle of all that too. I gather this because I asked yesterday, and the best answer I got for when updates will resume was "soon". Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:10:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5A82D39F for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFEId12245 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:14:18 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: newbie question Message-ID: <20010311151418.A12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from simon@burble.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:22:40PM -0800 or thereabouts, Simon M. C. Butler wrote: > i have downloaded the latest version of gnome via helix and running on > RH7.0 i am using the TWM window manager > > 1) i don't get a panel (with the gnome footprint icon etc) at the bottom > of my desktop when i startx in linux. i do get a control center window > up but no main panel. is there some thing i need to set somewhere? > 2) when i close down gnome using the left hand mouse key -> exit > the window manager hangs and i have to reboot the machine. I am wondering what's getting read when you startx. Have you got a ~/.Xclients or ~/.xinitrc there? What's in it? (them?) If they're present, what permissions do they have? I encountered similar symptoms to your second problem when using Window Maker with Gnome at first. Wmaker wanted to do the session management. When I quit Gnome, I'd get a blank screen and didn't return to the console. Telling wmaker not to session-manage fixed that. Can you do control-alt-F1 (F2, whatever) to get back to the console you started X from? As to starting a panel, that -should- start along with the other things which routinely start in Gnome. I believe that's file manager, help browser, control center and panel. You can start those individually from a terminal with "gmc &", "gnome-help-browser &", "gnomecc &" and "panel &". (You don't need the & signs; they're just to get your prompt back :)) Starting them from a terminal might give you some errors which make things clearer. Or they may Just Work. If they are remembered when you quit and restart, problem one is dealt with. I hope. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:12:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16912BB41 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFG4h12250 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: command line reset? Message-ID: <20010311151604.B12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010303234251.D20128@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304162134.A1077@blitzkrieg.battleship>; from famrom@idecnet.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:21:34PM +0100 or thereabouts, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk (2001-03-03 at 2342.51 +0000): (killing things with 'top' and the 'k' key) > > There are some programs you don't want to do this to. I have never > > dared try it in Linux, but it used to be possible on some old UNIXes > > to kill off 'init', for example. 'init' is the ultimate parent process: > > when that dies, everything does. I would assume you can't do this, but > > I wouldn't bet my filesystem on it :) And you might be running something > > not-Linux, and I have no clue what other UNIXen do there. > > Under Linux too, at least via SysReq keycombos (Alt + SysReq + L), and > quoting "'l' Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your > system will be non-functional after this.". AKA Danger, read the docs > and find better solutions (like reboot after syncing and unmounting). > > Maybe someday I will try to nuke init via kill, top or similar after > remounting read only, and in a non RAID system, cos last time I did a > fast reboot on a RAID system it had to recheck the disk (RAID level, > not filesystem level, but not fun anyway). I checked (briefly) on this. Apparently you shouldn't be able to kill init (and a few other things) via top on Linux. The magic sysreq keys are a separate story. I am still not going to try it to find out though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Sun Mar 11 10:21:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E1A2DD96 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2BFOtl12294 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 GMT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:24:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Anybody got a clue? I certainly dont.... Message-ID: <20010311152455.C12085@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA3FA32.636059A0@home.com>; from wphewitt@home.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:42:26PM -0800 or thereabouts, William P. Hewitt wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to remove the "Red Hat Menus" submenu from my gnome > panel main menu - the applications it lists are either duplicates or not > used, but I cant seem to find the global XML files that define the > entities therein. (Everytime I remove them from .gnome, they magically > reappear....) At the same time, they dont appear in gmenu for > editing.... > I would also like to remove "Favorites" and "Run"... Does RH (Redhat > 6.2) compile these things into the kernel or something, or am I just not > a good enough investigator? > TIA and any advice/help/experience would be greatly appreciated... Control-center->panel->menus. You can certainly remove Favorites with that. Not sure about a Red Hat Menus submenu. I am running RH 7.0 and don't see it (unless it only comes up for root or something?) RH doesn't compile Gnome stuff into the kernel, no :) That's pretty separate. However, I am not quite sure myself what generates what shows up on menus. Two things to look at for RH are o anything in /usr/share/gnome/ or /usr/share/applets which has the suffix .desktop o anything in /etc/X11/applnk/ Things in the first one will show up in the menu editor. Things in that second one will show up for some reason but are not found by the menu editor. When you have a Gimp in each one of those locations, you end up with two Gimp entries on your menu. I believe the /etc/X11/applnk one is a residue from RH's old desktop setup for X, prior to Gnome. Telsa From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 10:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D112DC91 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-249.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.249]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2001031115334520405uq8tee>; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:33:46 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:31:03 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: /dev/dsp busy X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010311153347.A0D112DC91@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've somehow broken the gnome sounds. I can start esd and I hear the beeps. I can also play CDs using the CD player app. Gmixer works OK too, as far as controlling volume from the CD player. What appears to happen as far as the gnome system sounds is that /dev/dsp is busy doing something else. I can't find out what it's busy doing though. Can anyone help? I use the 4-front drivers and I'm using kernel 2.4.x and the latest driver. Fred From landie@concentric.net Sun Mar 11 12:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.concentric.net (ts004d21.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.26.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D202DDEA for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from landie@localhost) by smtp.concentric.net (8.10.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id f2BHTfg13973 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:29:41 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Subject: off topic Message-ID: <20010311122941.A13970@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion anyone using sylpheed having problems creating mailboxes already in use by procmail to filter mail????? any advice -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sun Mar 11 12:05:01 EST 2001 From mhoffman1@pdq.net Sun Mar 11 16:29:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.iadfw.net (mail2.iadfw.net [206.66.12.234]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90AB42BB45 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain from [209.144.24.225] by mail2.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.47) with smtp for sender: id ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:29:03 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew Hoffman Reply-To: mhoffman1@pdq.net To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Further development... Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:38:27 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031115400300.00885@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Matthew Hoffman mhoffman1@pdq.net From gohel@csee.usf.edu Sun Mar 11 17:59:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3E2BBD4 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0356.cvx15-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.45.101]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00752 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAC03C9.8ABD6927@csee.usf.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:01:29 -0800 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME Mailing List Subject: Re: Further development... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthew Hoffman wrote: > > Just to let everyone know, the kde desktop icons have begun to appear > without Netscape running, so it's not a Netscape problem. I'll have > to file a bug report with the Gnome people. Before you do that I suggest that you create a new user and test the behavior of GNOME under that clean environment. If that produces the same result, I would tend to think that your installation is suspect, and then I would reinstall the components. Finally, if that continues to produce the same results, I would then write up a bug report. Being able to reproduce the possible bug would be helpful. -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu From federico@ximian.com Sun Mar 11 20:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (cs2-16.modems.unam.mx [132.248.10.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB682BA85; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12779; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:16:56 -0600 Message-Id: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Fact-of-life: You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix release. Simple. Really. * Availability: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz * Changes in this version: - Fixed thinko in color parsing routines (John). - Added --disable-mmx for buggy binutils installations (Timur). Love love love, Federico From fheitka@attglobal.net Sun Mar 11 20:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154DD2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip-32-101-75-151.oh.us.prserv.net[32.101.75.151]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2001031201393920202knin0e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:39:40 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500 To: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not there yet. Fred >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix >release. Simple. Really. >* Availability: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz From rootusr@midsouth.rr.com Sun Mar 11 21:19:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2423C2C9FE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com (HubC-mcr-24-95-122-149.midsouth.rr.com [24.95.122.149]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2C2I0L12337; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:18:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released From: Stephen "M." Williams To: fheitka@attglobal.net Cc: Federico Mena Quintero , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010312013942.154DD2C9FE@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 11 Mar 2001 20:16:37 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has it, though. Steve On 11 Mar 2001 20:37:09 -0500, fheitka@attglobal.net wrote: > In <200103120116.TAA12779@guanabana.ximian.com>, on 03/11/01 > at 07:16 PM, Federico Mena Quintero said: > > That's fine announcing this but I have been unable to get on > ftp.gnome.org for many days. In fact it just said it that > master.gnome.org does not allow annoymous logins. I > checked on gnome.eazel.com and the new version is not > there yet. > > Fred > > >Dear lovers of null-terminated strings, > > >Version 0.10.1 of the gdk-pixbuf library, "dance the ghost with me but do > >not step on my toes", has been released. This is a simple bugfix > >release. Simple. Really. > > >* Availability: > > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1.tar.gz > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From gards1@iinet.net.au Sun Mar 11 21:56:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C9FF2BC98 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15936 invoked by uid 666); 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO optimist) (203.59.78.218) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 02:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab67$f83d9320$0100a8c0@optimist> From: "Gards" To: Subject: When GDM starts, it kills my keyboard! Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the whole helix/ximian-gnome suite and = its all installed perfectly.. but whenever i start GDM to use gnome, my = keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll lock doesnt turn my = little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's or anything = because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. and the = keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really = want to use Gnome. Im running Debian (potato), kernel is 2.2.18 and stable, the mouse is an = intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and the keyboard is your = standard 105 key US International.. I can't give you any output, because, like I say, i cant change out of = GDM to get to a console to see whats really happening. I _can_ start = linux without GDM though.. Any help who be much much much appreciated. Thanks. Mikey. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day, just installed and d/l'ed the = whole=20 helix/ximian-gnome suite and its all installed perfectly.. but whenever = i start=20 GDM to use gnome, my keyboard stops responding, pushing caps/num/scroll = lock=20 doesnt turn my little lights on, i cant login, and i cant change tty's = or=20 anything because my keyboard wont respond at all. my mouse does work.. = and the=20 keyboard works perfectly in linux and under X-win running different = window=20 managers (ie Enlightenment). Can anyone please help me, i really want to = use=20 Gnome.
 
Im running Debian (potato), kernel is = 2.2.18 and=20 stable, the mouse is an intellimouse equivalent and it works fine, and = the=20 keyboard is your standard 105 key US International..
 
I can't give you any output, because, = like I say, i=20 cant change out of GDM to get to a console to see whats really = happening. I=20 _can_ start linux without GDM though..
 
Any help who be much much much=20 appreciated.
 
Thanks.
Mikey.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0ABAB.05C68EF0-- From fheitka@attglobal.net Mon Mar 12 07:10:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prserv.net (unknown [32.97.166.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6D2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc1 (slip129-37-208-139.oh.us.prserv.net[129.37.208.139]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20010312121051201005pmmte>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:10:52 +0000 From: fheitka@attglobal.net Reply-To: fheitka@attglobal.net Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:11:13 -0500 To: Stephen "M." Williams , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com> Subject: Re: Gdk-pixbuf 0.10.1 is released X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 Message-Id: <20010312121053.3FF6D2BAAF@mail.gnome.org> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In <200103120218.f2C2I0L12337@mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com>, on 03/11/01 at 08:16 PM, Stephen "M." Williams said: >I received the same error from ftp.gnome.org. The yggsdrasil site has >it, though. I tried to download it from there and got an error. It shows up in the links though. Fred From kolarov@net-bg.net Mon Mar 12 12:41:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.net-bg.net (mail.net-bg.net [212.124.88.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DA2BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool7.ppp.net-bg.net [212.124.88.199]) by mail.net-bg.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA13192 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:42:56 +0200 From: Yavor Kolarov Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: SlashApp MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Thanks in advance, Yavor From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 12:59:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC682BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cWah-0000yp-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:58:43 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031219411101.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 18:58:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 19:41:11 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > I know this is dummy question, but why does SlashApp applet show Gnotices > headlines instead of Slashdot's? Gnotices is a good site but is there any > way to make SlashApp download and show Slashdot headlines? Right click on SlashApp -> Properties -> Site -> Slashdot, easy isn't it? Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 13:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95F2CD45 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXP8-0001BW-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:50:51 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Yavor Kolarov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 19:50:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > [General] and [Display] > [General] contains options about what article information to show > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 14:09:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988532BC8B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA12741 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0000, Yavor Kolarov wrote: > > My SlashApp(0.3.2) doesn't have Site. When you select Properties you get > > [General] and [Display] > > [General] contains options about what article information to show > > [Display] contains Scrolling and Speed options > > I don's see Site anywhere. This is really odd. > > Err...that's *very* strange, because my SlashApp is also 0.3.2 and I > have 'Site'. Perhaps you misunderstood my mail. Site isn't another > tab it's in the General tab, and you can choose. I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my general tab either.... > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From ba@tud.at Mon Mar 12 14:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from www.tud.at (chello212017085031.13.vie.surfer.at [212.17.85.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48DC2E112 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from otthon.tud.at ([195.34.150.72] helo=lisa.otthon.at) by www.tud.at with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cXrs-0001IN-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:32 +0100 Subject: Re: SlashApp From: Andras Barany To: Wandered Inn Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.11.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 12 Mar 2001 20:20:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > general tab either.... Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the difference. Andras -- The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From jrigler@colorado.edu Mon Mar 12 14:55:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2617F2DB5F for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2CJt4J19134 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAD2998.D5CCEB54@colorado.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:04 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Focus on window with private color map Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I recently upgraded to Ximian Gnome (1.2) on a RedHat 7.0 system. I'm mostly pleased, but have noticed a fairly undesirable feature. I use RSI's IDL (Interactive Data Language) to produce plots. IDL does not play nicely with true color displays, and requires a private color map when generating plots with standard 8-bit color tables. Previously when I put my mouse over the plot window, it became focused (since I have my WM set to do this), causing it to acquire its private colormap, and screwing up everything else on the screen. As bad as this is, at least when my mouse was over the plot, it looked correct. Now the plot window is not given its private colormap unless I actually try to move or resize it. I suspect this is something wrong with the way IDL creates child windows, but I've even configured Sawfish to "Give focus to windows even when they haven't asked for it" (this is a "Focus" option in the Sawfish configurator), and I have the same problem. Any ideas? -EJR From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Mon Mar 12 15:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136702BAAF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA13331 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3AAD33F0.8564F437@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:39:12 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: SlashApp References: <01031220134502.03780@localhost.localdomain> <3AAD1E1F.EBE0AEF8@denali.atlnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Andras Barany wrote: > > On 12 Mar 2001 14:06:07 -0500, Wandered Inn wrote: > > I've got 0.3.2 as well, no site [entry|tab|button|swizzle stick] on my > > general tab either.... > > Hmm...I use gnome 1.4 beta1 ximian debian packages, perhaps that's the > difference. Likely, 1.2 here. > > Andras > -- > The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Win 95, > Win NT 4.0 or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From leonchiver@xnet.ro Mon Mar 12 17:17:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653922E010 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 18dial235.xnet.ro ([217.10.218.235]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:33 +0200 Subject: gnome themes From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.27 - Preview Release) Date: 13 Mar 2001 00:17:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a new engine theme but it installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. Thanks guys. From aquari0@linuxfreak.com Mon Mar 12 17:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B12BE08 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from linuxfreak.com (1Cust157.tnt1.belvidere.il.da.uu.net [63.27.115.157]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11579 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:47:38 -0600 From: aquari0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Leon Chiver wrote: > > Hi! > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > new engine theme but it > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. ./configure --prefix=/usr will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc file in /usr/share/themes/ By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: "./configure --help|more" to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 12 17:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (86-MADR-X28.libre.retevision.es [62.83.9.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C252D488 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02141 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome themes Message-ID: <20010312235843.A2138@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <028b03318220c31MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AAD520A.776D4160@linuxfreak.com>; from aquari0@linuxfreak.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 04:47:38PM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion aquari0@linuxfreak.com (2001-03-12 at 1647.38 -0600): > > How can I specify where the gnome-themes directory is? I've installed a > > new engine theme but it > > installed in /usr/local/share/themes while my gnome was looking in > > /usr/share/themes/. I finally copied the theme to /usr/share/themes but > > that's not what I intend. I'm using RH7. > > Thanks guys. > ./configure --prefix=/usr > will install the engine in /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/ and the gtkrc > file in /usr/share/themes/ > By the way those are gtk-themes and not gnome-themes. > ALso for all the programs you compile is nice to do: > "./configure --help|more" > to check all the nice options programmers put into their work. I think he is speaking about already compiled RPMs and a way to tell Gtk+ where to look for themes (which are not from RPMs, I guess). As solution, install and then symlink in where Gtk+ searchs. I have my config that way, in the worst case I just have to rebuild symlinks from some /usr dirs to some /usr/local dirs. Well, just guessing, he could explain better. GSR From veillard@redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F932DB5C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21426 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:22:53 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Nicely suggested by our KDE colleagues in their first Kernel Cousin KDE issue ;-) http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010310_1.html It's a good idea. We used to have commit list reports posted, there is the news.gnome.org service too, but we never really had something like the Kernel Traffic analysis done on the gnome-list for example. It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check http://kt.zork.net/ Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From jirka@zinc.5z.com Mon Mar 12 21:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF02D9BB; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2D2TGm08444; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:29:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:21:55 -0800 From: George To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: gdm 2.2.0 "Ecky Ecky Ecky Ecky" release Message-ID: <20010312182155.F6382@monique.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv'. Now at long last, people that don't want to run unstable software can also break their systems with this brand spanking new stable gdm 2.2.0 release. In fact, this is the first time you can break your system with a stable 2.x release of gdm, as before you would be breaking your system with a beta. What is GDM? (You mean you don't know already???) :) GDM is GNOME Display Manager. An xdm like program that manages the login screen to your GNOME desktop. It is not based on xdm and is a complete rewrite in fact. It was originally written by Martin K. Petersen, but he does not have the time to maintain the 2.x tree anymore, so I took over fixing this up for the 1.4 gnome release. Nowdays most work on gdm2 is done by me and Lee Mallabone. New stuff in 2.2.0 (from 2.0.99) - gdmconfig now works with more fontsizes (me, Lee) - Another minor xinerama fix - Fixup the pam message voodoo, so that it now is at least functional even though it may not be pretty nor 100% correct. - Initial gdmconfig documentation (Trevor Curtis, Lee) - gdmconfig now correctly handles RelaxPerms (Lee) - gdmconfig has now nice pam console helper setup (Lee) - gladify/beautify gdmchooser (Lee) - gdmchooser now apparently works with xdm (Matthias Clasen) - Better specfile (Gregory Leblanc) - Packagers should read the comment on end of config/gdm.conf.in (especially debian people) - Configuration file now does not force the adobe version of helvetica, and postgres and pvm users are excluded by default (Vlad Hrachev) - i18n fixes (Gediminas Paulauskas) - New easter egg - Bunch of minor fixes - Translation updates (Yukihiro Nakai, Carlos Perelló Marín, Martin Norbäck, Fatih Demir, Simos Xenitellis, Kjartan Maraas, Christian Meyer, Christophe Merlet, Stanislav Visnovsky, me) To get this modern marvel of technology go to ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/sources/gdm/gdm-2.2.0.tar.gz RPMS can be had from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/i386/ ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/redhat/SRPMS/ Since it nowdays seems that this is only accessible through mirrors of ftp.gnome.org, you can get all these files from ftp://ftp.5z.com/pub/unix/ as well if you can't find it on one of the mirrors, though please use the mirrors if you can. -George -- George A good memory is needed after one has lied. -- Pierre Corneille From jdub@giardia.yourweb.com.au Mon Mar 12 21:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from giardia.yourweb.com.au (giardia.yourweb.com.au [61.8.3.32]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E852BCB2 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by giardia.yourweb.com.au (Postfix, from userid 609) id 7268118064; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:22:52 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Daniel Veillard Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Volunteers for Kernel Cousin Gnome ? Message-ID: <20010313132252.A22338@giardia.yourweb.com.au> References: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010312182253.D16696@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 06:22:53PM -0500 X-Message: Leenooks, Lienucks, Leenoos, Lienus, Let's call the whole thing off. X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > It would be great to see a volunteers to maintain a Kernel > Cousin. If you were looking for a not too technical task to help > advertizing the gnome project, well this one looks great. Check Hi Daniel, Indeed, doing a kernel cousin is fun. I did the Sydney Linux User Group cousin (now sleeping, no one was able to share the load) for it's seven issues. Absolute PITA to do by yourself, but with a group cousin, it's quite easy. I'd be interested in helping out, or guiding the project to fruition. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From jrigler@colorado.edu Tue Mar 13 19:50:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from edgar.colorado.edu (edgar.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85082E3FF for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from colorado.edu (IDENT:jrigler@moiraine.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.88]) by edgar.colorado.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id f2E0o0J05041 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700 From: Joshua Rigler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the title bar, or tried to resize the window. In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest version of Mozilla. Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's gnome configuration are significantly different than the default configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? -EJR From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 14 02:24:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E22BDD0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 16493414 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AAF1CD6.7040009@megapathdsl.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:25:10 -0800 From: Miles Lane User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac17 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010207 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian appears to have dropped off the web (www.ximian.com, helix-update and redcarpet all fail). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 23:22:38.515867 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:38.525122 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50660+ PTR? 10.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:38.659223 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50660* 1/2/2 PTR dendrite.ximian.com. (154) 23:22:38.661216 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50661+ PTR? 4.176.200.216.in-addr.arpa. (44) (DF) 23:22:38.700100 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50661* 1/2/2 PTR ns1.megapath.net. (138) 23:22:50.515880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2483 > dendrite.ximian.com.www: S 805064825:805064825(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.615880 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.2482 > axon.ximian.com.8000: S 781966852:781966852(0) win 5840 (DF) 23:22:56.617078 eth0 > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026 > ns1.megapath.net.domain: 50662+ PTR? 12.186.250.129.in-addr.arpa. (45) (DF) 23:22:56.729362 eth0 < ns1.megapath.net.domain > agate.megapathdsl.net.1026: 50662* 1/2/2 PTR axon.ximian.com. (150) From jgift@wanadoo.fr Wed Mar 14 04:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3432BDDD for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:40 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.3.74) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 14 Mar 2001 10:00:22 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14d77m-0000X4-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:59:18 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Best user list? Message-ID: <20010314095918.B1992@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm looking for a general user list where everything is discussed from particular problems to the future of Gnome. Is this it and if not, where should I go? Thanks. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From beirne@neo.rr.com Wed Mar 14 07:11:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pop-server.twmi.rr.com (unknown [65.24.0.109]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF062DC32 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from neo.rr.com (beirne@a13b025.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.25]) by pop-server.twmi.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2EC9Hw22481; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103141209.f2EC9Hw22481@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Joshua Rigler Cc: Gnome Mailing List Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Joshua Rigler of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 MST." <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:15:50 -0500 From: Beirne Konarski Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. > > .... > > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? I had enough lockups with Ximian and RedHat 7 that I started losing files on my hard disk after having to hit the reset key. When I lost my VMware NT drive image it was the last straw and I switched to Debian, which has worked much better. Beirne -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" -- Beirne "Bern" Konarski beirne@neo.rr.com "Untouched by Scandal" From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:03:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A882BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20216 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:42 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdk2WRm4; Wed Mar 14 15:06:16 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <385A497A.B757AB75@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys (Net Technology Systems) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: mp3 play panel app available? References: <3859C106.19AAC38E@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 0000001e-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:44 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm actually about to release pretty soon a beta version of a lightweight mp3 player for Gnome that will also have a panel interface. I'll make an announcement as soon as it will be stable enough to be released. Frederic Bellaice NTSys (Net Technology Systems) Daniel Weber wrote: > > I'm sitting here listening to xmms and was wondering if there was a > panel applet that just plays mp3 files. xmms is a nice program, but > I usually don't want to take up screen real estate when I'm hacking.... > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 14 09:04:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015E32BD3F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id PAA20351; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:07:48 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "rc5.local.ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdwf5dJh; Wed Mar 14 15:06:20 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> From: Frederic Bellaiche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tommy_T Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Evolution: 00000037-0010 X-Mailer: Evolution 0.8 (Developer Preview) Date: 14 Mar 2001 14:56:47 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's web site. Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version of Gnome. Frederic (fbellaiche@ntsys.fr) Tommy_T wrote: > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > Slackware > version of Linux. Is it available? > Thanks in advance, > Tom (tootie-t@pacbell.net) > > -- > FAQ: Frequently-Asked Questions at http://www.gnome.org/gnomefaq > To unsubscribe: mail gnome-list-request@gnome.org with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 14 10:59:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF18A2DBBE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28895; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:12:54 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma028892; Wed, 14 Mar 01 19:12:48 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA17692; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:34 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma017689; Wed, 14 Mar 01 18:57:12 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25014 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA11906; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:57:05 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 14 Mar 2001 18:57:03 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from gnome-core 1.2.4): (gdb) run Starting program: /home/gregory/ftp/gnome/gnome-core-1.2.4/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () (gdb) where #0 0xff3b5aa4 in ?? () #1 0xff3be378 in ?? () #2 0xff3be5e0 in ?? () #3 0xff3be6f0 in ?? () #4 0xff3be838 in ?? () #5 0xfedfd65c in _XsunRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #6 0xfeddf394 in XRegisterIMInstantiateCallback () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 #7 0xfeece07c in gdk_im_open () at gdkim.c:426 #8 0xfeebb488 in gdk_init_check (argc=0x1, argv=0xffbee938) at gdk.c:465 #9 0xfefbf880 in gtk_init_check (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:247 #10 0xfefbfddc in gtk_init (argc=0xffbeeacc, argv=0xffbeeac8) at gtkmain.c:471 #11 0xff207fa0 in gnome_add_gtk_arg_callback (con=0x3cb00, reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x3d7f0 "", data=0x0) at gnome-init.c:139 #12 0xfed61ec8 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0xff284df8, post=1) at popt.c:56 #13 0xfed61e6c in invokeCallbacks (con=0x3cb00, table=0x3c9c4, post=1) at popt.c:51 #14 0xfed62898 in poptGetNextOpt (con=0x3cb00) at popt.c:318 #15 0xfee414dc in gnomelib_parse_args (argc=248576, argv=0xffbeef14, popt_flags=0) at gnome-popt.c:86 #16 0xff208338 in gnome_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0xffbeef14 "˙žđČ", argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, flags=0, return_ctx=0x0) at gnome-init.c:456 #17 0xff378e5c in gnome_CORBA_init_with_popt_table (app_id=0x1db18 "Terminal", app_version=0x1cd58 "1.2.4", argc=0xffbeee84, argv=0xffbeef14, options=0x2fb6c, popt_flags=0, return_ctx=0x0, gnorba_flags=0, ev=0xffbeee20) at orbitgnome.c:98 #18 0x1bbe0 in main_terminal_program (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14, environ=0xffbeef1c) at gnome-terminal.c:2790 #19 0x1c018 in main (argc=1, argv=0xffbeef14) at gnome-terminal.c:2934 Any ideas?... -- Gregory From jprokopek@snet.net Wed Mar 14 11:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.snet.net (smtp.snet.net [204.60.6.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2E62C930 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from snet.net (119.12.252.64.snet.net [64.252.12.119]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f2EGHqL29469; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AAF9A51.9A537E24@snet.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:20:33 -0500 From: John Prokopek X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net From mtgordon@ximian.com Wed Mar 14 16:29:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (trna.ximian.com [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697802BEA3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from metric.ximian.com ([141.154.95.59]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14414; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:28:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200103142128.QAA14414@trna.ximian.com> Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 From: Mark Gordon To: Joshua Rigler Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.12.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 16:11:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 13 Mar 2001 17:50:00 -0700, Joshua Rigler wrote: > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. I've heard some reports of Sawfish focus problems, but nothing specific to Ximian GNOME or Red Hat 7.0. I don't recall enough of the details to know whether they're the cause of your problems. > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I haven't seen this one. Maybe running Mozilla used enough extra memory to make your machine swap enough to make it look like the menus hung. If you'd been running previous Mozilla versions, that's probably not the problem, though. Was this in just one application, or in a wide range of applications? I like running a cpu monitor applet so I can tell when an application goes nuts and starts hogging the CPU, though in some cases applications hang due to networking issues that don't actually consume any CPU to speak of. > Is this a buggy release? Should I try to go back to the Gnome > distributed with RedHat, or is it possible the default settings for RH's > gnome configuration are significantly different than the default > configuration that comes with Ximian, and I'm just not familiar enough > with configuring Gnome to fix this problem? If it's a window focus issue, I'd look a the window manager. If you like, you can revert to the RH7 version of Sawfish, though it's probably best to do so when not actually running Sawfish... -Mark Gordon From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 14 22:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC542BDE7 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2F3kth14686 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:46:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 25 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet 0.9.2 running. This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from MandrakeCooker RPMs). I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old RPMs? Thanks in advance, everyone! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 14 22:59:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41ADD2D43C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa14085; 14 Mar 2001 22:59 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00627; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB03F22.8D2AFD9A@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:03:46 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gtk-list@gnome.org Subject: Canvas resize bug? References: <20010314170541.CDA322E1A3@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, I notice that when you resize a Gtk or Gnome canvas, any regular GtkWidget contained therein DOES NOT get moved or resized properly. Instead, it remains in it's exact original location. This messes things up majorly. Anyone have a workaround? Like, is there a way to get the message being sent to the canvas for a resize? Perhaps there's a way to pass this info along to the widget? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From mimicky@hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 00:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.123]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4206F2E038 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:25:58 -0800 Received: from 168.28.178.73 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [168.28.178.73] From: "Micky M" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A7F3F20:01C0AD10] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear all: I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. --Micky. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 00:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5F2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010315053024.CXAY25216.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:24 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12711; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 14 Mar 2001 21:30:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This seems to have something to do with the 2.4 kernel and oaf. It's a mess I think. I really, really like GNOME but lately things are just slow. It almost seems GNOME is living up to it's old self from a year or so ago when people complained about it being slow. Bloat comes to mind but I guess it's the way of the future:-) With a 900MHz athalon, 256Megs of memory and ATA100 drives it should just fly. Maybe I'm expecting to much. Maybe oaf and corba need to be coded in assembly:-) What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill off nautilus/mozilla processes. There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough as a file manager - yet. At any rate what you can do to help is kill oaf off with oaf-slay every time you log out. That seems to help. Any response from GNOME developers on this would be welcome. On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 (which still doesn't work worth a crap, I've only > ever had it running well once, and that was a snapshot just after the PR3 > release - so much for the new default GNOME file manager) and RedCarpet > 0.9.2 running. > > This is all on a Mandrake 7.2 distro, with kernel 2.4.2 (from > MandrakeCooker RPMs). > > I really don't want to downgrade, because that will take a bit of work - > I'd rather to move forward and fix whatever was broken to get this working. > > Anyone have any info on this, or am I going to have to start hunting old > RPMs? > > Thanks in advance, everyone! > -- > Sean Middleditch > of > AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Thu Mar 15 01:08:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015CA2DB82 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (garnet3-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.3]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:02 -0500 Received: from acns.fsu.edu (IDENT:castlebg@dial1002.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.36.138]) by garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA67676; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:07:59 -0500 From: Brett Castleberry To: "Micky M" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: ERGENT! -- How to restore Main Memu bar? Message-Id: <20010315010759.0d9a2a8c.bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: Seventh Seal Chowder & Marching Society Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:25:58 "Micky M" wrote: > Dear all: > > I removed my main menu bar by error( the one on the bottom of the screen > with the footprint, the question mark, the control center, terminal icon and > netscape icon ). I don't know how to restore it back. Would you please > kindly tell me how to get my menu bar back? Thank you very much. > > --Micky. The easy answer: at the command line in a terminal window, type "panel &". Brett From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 04:01:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04032BE7D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2F90qc31112; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:00:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Farris Cc: Sean Middleditch , Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to kill > off nautilus/mozilla processes. I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive and consistent so they dropped support for it. > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > as a file manager - yet. Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. Regards, Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Thu Mar 15 04:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4572D711 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14dUUt-0000li-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB091DB.56C9E207@kscanners.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:56:43 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Numerous problems with Ximian/Helix Gnome on RH 7.0 References: <3AAEC038.C6264B1C@colorado.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Has anyone else been having problems with the latest Ximian/Helix Gnome > suite on RedHat 7.0? No. I've been running Red Hat 7 and Ximian GNOME for quite some time, and haven't come across any major problems. Note, however, that I'm mainly using Red Hat 6 RPMs (we still have some Red Hat 6.2 installations, and I saw no reason for downloading two versions of everything); most of them will work on version 7 as long as you have the "compat" RPMs installed (which is very likely if you have upgraded from version 6). The only exception I can think of is gnome-core. > I posted one problem already where child windows > (IDL plot windows) didn't get focused unless one actually clicked the > title bar, or tried to resize the window. Sounds to me like a problem with the focus settings in Sawfish. Have you checked "Focus Behaviour" under "Sawfish Window Manager" in the Control Center? ("Dialog windows inherit the focus from their parent" seems somewhat related to your problem.) > In addition, twice today I had to restart X because all of a sudden I > couldn't get menus to pull down on various X windows (i.e. I click on > the file menu, it highlights, but the menu never drops down). Actually > this problem seemed to crop up shortly after I test-drove the newest > version of Mozilla. I've never seen that, but then again, I haven't tested Mozilla as such (Galeon - http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - is more usable.) - Toralf From Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org Wed Mar 14 12:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9CF2BAAA; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de [141.99.42.43]) by harley.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Mailhost) with ESMTP id SAA31108; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Received: (from simon@localhost) by vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Spoolhost) id SAA121094; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:19 +0100 From: Simon Budig To: Gimp-developer list Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all. Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for me this year. Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Thanks, Simon -- Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ From reboant@the-i.net Mon Mar 12 15:19:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sam.the-i.net (mail.the-i.net [206.136.176.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DB2DBCB for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from reboant (cca142.the-i.net [206.136.176.142]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c0ab32$1d474b60$8eb088ce@thei.net> From: "Reboant" To: Subject: Self-Compiled Gnome Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:22:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just spent hours compiling gnome on Peanut linux just to find that the = panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an error message saying = "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel applets. I can click one of the side buttons on the panel to hide it then it = will go down to the bottom where it belongs and stay there but that = stupid error message keeps popping up over and over again.I'm going = crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can look at that might = help me Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and all the apps work just fine but no = applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG. There has to be some script or config file that'll set things straight = but I have no clue as to what or where.Could it have something to do = with permissions perhaps?Everything is owned by root just like in = KDE.Could that be a problem? Please help.I'd really like to get this thing working so I can see just = how good gnome really is.Thanks in advance ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just spent hours compiling gnome on = Peanut linux=20 just to find that the panel was stuck in the middle of the screen,an = error=20 message saying "can't find mc default icons",and no working panel=20 applets.
 I can click one of the side = buttons on the=20 panel to hide it then it will  go down to the bottom where it = belongs and=20 stay there but that stupid error message keeps popping up over and over=20 again.I'm going crazy here guys.Is there a site or webpage that I can = look at=20 that might help me
 Installed gnome in /opt/gnome and = all the=20 apps work just fine but no applets.AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGG.
 There has to be some script or = config file=20 that'll set things straight but I have no clue as to what = or where.Could it=20 have something to do with permissions perhaps?Everything = is owned=20 by root just like in KDE.Could  that be a = problem?
Please help.I'd really like to get this = thing=20 working so I can see just how good gnome really is.Thanks in=20 advance
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AAFF.D1EC98A0-- From joschi@eds.org Wed Mar 14 17:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.eds.org (zen.eds.org [205.179.187.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F452E453 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22320 invoked by uid 33); 14 Mar 2001 22:14:04 -0000 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: joschi@eds.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 64.160.162.151 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! -Josh From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54AF2BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:54 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:16:47 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dUKV-0000bN-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Sizing panel smaller? Message-ID: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Thanks, Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 08:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D12CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:58 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.237.240) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 14:24:43 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dXji-0000g9-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:24:14 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk frontend > to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write such a > simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome development. > If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that would > be appriciated. thanks! It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. root tail Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63F32BDAD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDbMc12659; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:42 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment (horzontal/vertical). Regards, Jens From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 15 08:42:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91752E120 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-179.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04466; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:41:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? From: Bart Kuik To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome In-Reply-To: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 14:38:35 +0000 Message-Id: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:45:59 +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the standard-installation of Red Hat 6.2 is too old. To resize it You have to right-click anywhere on the panel and select : Panel -> Properties -> Size and there are some (7 in v1.3.0) choices from ultra tiny (too small) to ridiculous (too big). If your panel is too old, you'd better upgrade your whole gnome to 1.4 beta2. Very much has been improved in the meantime.... Bart From sean.middleditch@iname.com Thu Mar 15 08:45:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58B2E29D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mw.mediaone.net (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2FDjdh06085; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:47:54 -0500 From: Sean Middleditch To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010315084754.D27630@sean.aweplay> References: <200103150530.VAA12711@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 04:01:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 58 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.15 04:01:11 -0500 Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > What we need is a really good filemanager. Nautilus is a great file > > viewer but as a file manager it's far far to slow. It also would be no > > good for a newbie as it still isn't that well behaved. I've had to > kill > > off nautilus/mozilla processes. > > I noticed this too. Its very annoying, 'cos without executing > nautilus-clen.sh and explicitly kill gconfd-1 it won't start again. > Ah ha. Maybe that'll get Nautilus running on my system... > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus > development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > What!?! Now I really do have a distaste for Eazel/Nautilus. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like the one feature I wanted in GMC, and now they're never going to add it? And not intuitive? Even the biggest idiot understands how that works in Windows, what's wrong with it in Nautilus!? Argh! > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > Ya, I've done that, and opening a new directory is still less-than-snappy on my 1ghz Athlon.... > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From jwallen@techrepublic.com Thu Mar 15 09:16:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (unknown [208.50.220.170]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E932CFBD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jwallen@localhost) by geddy.tech.techrepublic.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2FEDT411271 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: geddy.tech.techrepublic.com: jwallen owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0500 (EST) From: "jack wallen, jr." X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome-cal and mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is there a way to configure GNOME calendar to use a specific domain name when sending out e-mail reminders? as it stands it is adding my host name to the e-mail from addy. let me be more specific: jwallen@techrepublic.com is what i need jwallen@geddy.tech.techrepublic.com is what is being used. i realize that i could try to mess with sendmail to solve this problem but let's face it sendmail is not the easiest beast to configure. with applications like pine and such i can configure a specific domain name. so....can this be done with GNOME calendar? thanks a million. -- L I N U X L I N U X ---jack wallen, jr Track editor Linux/Infrastructure--- ----www.techrepublic.com 9900 Corporate Campus Drive----- -------Suite 1500 Louisville, KY 40223 502-814-7741------ X U N I L X U N I L From Melvin.Laney@itt.com Thu Mar 15 09:39:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gate1.itt.com (gate1.itt.com [151.190.254.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8912BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from no.name.available by gate1.itt.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2001 14:38:34 UT Received: from 151.190.173.213 by fwdcwall.de.ittind.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:34 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by fwemail3.de.ittind.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:33 -0500 Message-ID: <16BCA41BECFAD411931E00B0D068A21C1B8081@alexva-mail.alx.aes.de.ittind.com> From: "Laney, Jr., Melvin - AES" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RE: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assert ion Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion John, I am also running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X session through Exceed. When I run linuxconf I get the errors listed below on my terminal. The app runs fine despite the error messages. I don't know why either. At least we know this is a consistent problem which isn't specific to your machine. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. -----Original Message----- From: John Prokopek [mailto:jprokopek@snet.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: help with -> Gdk-CRITICAL gdkimage.c gdk_image_destroy assertion I am running Redhat 7.0 on an intel box and accessing the X sessio through Exceed. Everything run fine except when I run a gui app such as gvim or linuxconf. When I run these apps I get the follow error messages on startup root@miles /root]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkimage.c: line 416 (gdk_image_destroy): assertion `image != NULL' failed. after the error messages the app runs fine. can someone clue me in on what is happening and how i can fix it thanks -- John D. Prokopek jprokopek@snet.net _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 09:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5A02BD9F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FEndc16605; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:49:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Gift Cc: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Jonathan Gift wrote: > > On some screenshots I see the panel half its default size but couldn't > > see where to do it. Is it in the compiling or an option womewhere? > > Right click on an existing panel: Panel -> Create Panel -> Aligned Panel. > Holding down the middle mouse button on your new created panel you can > drag the it around the screenborder and change its alignment > (horzontal/vertical). Oops, got something wrong here. Erm. Bart gave a good answer to this question. Sorry, but maybe my information was also useful ;-). Jens From ninetyninewaystodie@mailcity.com Thu Mar 15 10:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6238B2BD93 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu Mar 15 07:04:27 2001 To: "Gnome General Mailing" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:04:27 -0500 From: "Salvatore Innanone" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? X-Sender-Ip: 198.62.209.10 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 10:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com (zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38A52E444 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W431C3; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6LJR; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZSl-0003oI-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:14:51 -0500 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: todo list Message-ID: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 10:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4D2CDD0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010315152539.GLLT4364.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:25:39 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02219; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: Jens Finke Cc: George Farris , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 07:28:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 10:01:11 +0100, Jens Finke wrote: > On 14 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > > There needs to be some kind of copy/paste or file shelf function to > > temporarily hold files one is moving or coping. > > There has been a long discussion in the early days of nautilus development > about this feature. They came up with the result, that it's not intuitive > and consistent so they dropped support for it. > You know that statement is just down right wrong. Intuitiveness is in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone thinks or sees things the same way. The mailing list is a testament to the fact that people actually do want a copy a paste function. Providing this as a feature would have been a very nice option. It could be a preference that is turned on. > > Trying to have two windows open on a small screen and > > drag between them is a joke. Sorry Eazel but it's just not good enough > > as a file manager - yet. > > Well, you can turn off all the menu and side bars seperatly for every > window. So you can have only a simple window with directory contents. I > don't think one can implement an application which uses less space. > > Regards, > Jens How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a pain. From jgift@wanadoo.fr Thu Mar 15 11:03:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from oxera.wanadoo.fr (unknown [193.252.19.223]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425322BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by oxera.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:03:28 +0100 Received: from palatine (193.249.234.217) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 15 Mar 2001 17:02:53 +0100 Received: from jgift by palatine with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZa3-0000m6-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:22:23 +0100 From: Jonathan Gift To: Gnome Subject: Re: Sizing panel smaller? Solved-Thanks Message-ID: <20010315162223.J214@wanadoo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Gift , Gnome References: <20010315104559.D214@wanadoo.fr> <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984667126.396.0.camel@starflyer.unknown.domain>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:38:35PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik wrote: > You need a quite new 1.2.x panel. For example, the one in the I'll have to pop it back on or look at my distro to see what version, Running potato... Thanks for the tip. received lot's of help, so thanks all for pointing out what I should have known if I'd spent more time on Gnome. My fault. Thanks again. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift jgift@wanadoo.fr */ From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 11:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (mgate11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.158]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA932DBC9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate11.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id BAA03912 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id BAA15643 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:53 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, Gregory. > Hello here > > I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest > libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, > audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome > apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from > control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV > in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from > gnome-core 1.2.4): Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. # ./configure --disable-xim # make --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 15 11:24:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED2BAC2 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14daOX-000107-00; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: jacob berkman To: Sean Middleditch Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:14:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 14 Mar 2001 21:54:45 -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao > > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I > did to get Nautilus 1.0 are you running nautilus, or did you just install it? something that makes me suspicious is the fact that i get this message when i start nautilus: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory (this stems from me running devfs and not having a sound module loaded) it may be the case that nautilus is grabbing the sound device, and the other apps are trying to start esd or something. this is a common cause for app startup time slowdowns. jacob -- C-x i .signature From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 11:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B8202DDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05773; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:53:28 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma005770; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:53:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00363; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:58 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma000361; Thu, 15 Mar 01 19:37:57 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04009; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA01130; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:50 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:37:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello, Gregory. >> Hello here >> >> I have quite a problem making gnome work on solaris 8. I got the latest >> libs (gtk+ 1.2.9, imlib 1.9.9, gnome-libs 1.2.12, gtk-engines 0.11, >> audiofile 0.2.1, esound 2.22). Everything compiles fine but most of gnome >> apps don't work (not all of them crash, for example gnomecc (from >> control-center 1.2.2) works fine). All of those that fail receive SIGSEGV >> in the same place. Here's a typical stack trace for gnome-terminal (from >> gnome-core 1.2.4): FK> Try to recompile gtk+ without xim support. FK> # ./configure --disable-xim FK> # make Thank you for your answer. I have got a new hope :) Currently I am trying to recompile all the gnome on solaris 7 (then will try to run what I get on solaris 8) so I will try your suggestion if I fail. Just out of curiosity, what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? -- Gregory From combat@bc4.so-net.ne.jp Thu Mar 15 12:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (mgate10.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.157]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EB22DCB9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.52]) by mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01031514) with ESMTP id CAA07596 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from casper.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (pee4a84.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.74.132]) by mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W01022316) with ESMTP id CAA22027; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:19:45 +0900 From: Funamoto Kazuhisa To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Funamoto Kazuhisa Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II In-Reply-To: References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-NetHack-Code: NH 3.2.0U D [++ )++ P S+ D+ p- $ t- s- W E--- PS- PP+ G+ C+ I++ @W(wt) N-- b-- B- Y+ X- !So Sp++ !sb wb? User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386-pc-solaris2.8) X-Face: JOl,T8(g~z&U-#td+1VvWOmUcOJ23za4U_M%6t^OrF{8NYMU1.9Xzy@/oq$E$$H!G|P^R9t k?D/%4KGJ:hF')gk?mzqrspzl$aow&{5b5f=-c/.6e8#`55C4*u1#{nz!":j)t8Zo)o_|d|(6AnUcJ ^Y;9VyFSYc@RC^DK[5(V Hello. I'm sorry for my poor english. > what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be > something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also # solves the problem. I don't know which is wrong. > to enter only ascii in gtk widgets? To tell the truth, there is an another solution, just run a xim application before running gtk+ applications. Then, you can enter non ascii in the widgets. But you have to prepare xim application such as skkinput or kinput2. --- Funamoto Kazuhisa ( combat@RogueLife.org ) From jnelson@lexonia.com Thu Mar 15 12:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from felix.lexonia.net (lexonia-gw.vma.verio.net [207.97.4.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C92BD3F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jnelson@localhost) by felix.lexonia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30078; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: John Nelson X-Sender: jnelson@felix.lexonia.net To: George Farris Cc: Jens Finke , Sean Middleditch , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness In-Reply-To: <200103151528.HAA02219@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > pain. You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and counterintuitive. -- John ______________________________________________________________ John T. Nelson Lexonia Internet Services LLC email: jnelson@lexonia.com PO Box 9007 web: http://www.lexonia.net/ McLean VA, 22102 ______________________________________________________________ Lexonia Internet Services Your choice for affordable web hosting, email and dedicated servers From liguo.song@vanderbilt.edu Thu Mar 15 13:36:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer4.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.214]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F832BC89 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (nlog.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.116.216]) by mailer4.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id MAA26673 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:36:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:34:52 -0600 From: Liguo Song X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GnomeList Subject: Shortcut icons on desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Dear Gnomers, How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the desktop? I tried to grep -r CDROM /usr/*, but find nothing. :( Thanks for your help! Liguo (Leo) From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Thu Mar 15 13:37:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 789422C891 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06267; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:50:33 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma006264; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:50:11 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01701; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:55 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma001699; Thu, 15 Mar 01 21:34:36 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09804; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA01375; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:34:32 +0300 (MSK) To: Funamoto Kazuhisa Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome fails to run on Solaris 8 ultra sparc II (problem solved) References: <200103151616.BAA15643@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 15 Mar 2001 21:34:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103151719.CAA22027@mail.bc4.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "FK" == Funamoto Kazuhisa writes: FK> Hello. FK> I'm sorry for my poor english. >> what is XIM and what will I lose if I compile without it? It seems to be >> something that deals with internationalization. Does it mean I will be able FK> Yes. it's the protocol to input non ascii chars. FK> When gtk+ is build with OpenWindows libraries, it causes SEGV. FK> # So, on Intel platform, building gtk+ with XFree libs also FK> # solves the problem. Yay! Your answer made me look in a right direction. I decided to try --disable-xim-inst before I disable xim completely, since by the stack trace it seems that installation of some king of a handler causes the problem and everything works fine now! And I can enter cyrillic too. Thank you :) -- Gregory From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 15:18:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AC22CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:38 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4PYH4; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NG1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:36 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14de5H-0004He-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:55 -0500 To: Gnome General Mailing Subject: Re: Debian 2.2, X-4.0.2, Latest Gnome, & Sawmill Icon Error? Message-ID: <20010315151055.F2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome General Mailing References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ninetyninewaystodie@lycos.com on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:27AM -0500, Salvatore Innanone wrote: > Ok, I am running Debian, and wound up compiling X myself since it comes with > 3.3.6, and I wanted 4.0.2, Anyway I keep getting this error (No where to be > found in logs), but when I right click on the Application Shortcuts and > select properties, and try to click on the "Icon" to change it, or when > creating a new app on the bar, it shuts the window (the properties window) > and the screen flickers once, and nothing happens.. it's not logged anywhere > either... not quite sure what to do with this one... but if it makes things > more difficult down the road I'd like to tackle it now. I installed Woody > Debian, X 4.0.2, Helix Gnome from CD (Got it at the Linux Conf in NYC '01), > and made ximian part of my sources list, so everything's updated there, I am > also running sawmill.. if this IS a gnome error, how when where can it be > tackled? And if not, what would be causing this? X or Sawmill? No idea, but just for reference, I'm running Debian 2.2, plus XFree 4.0.2 (which is available in unstable btw), and Ximian Gnome, and that doesn't happen to me. *shrug* Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From jwkim@MIT.EDU Thu Mar 15 15:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7552CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02669; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27826; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08758; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id PAA32495; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > Hey people. Currently I'm using jpilot for handling my Palm Pilot, since > the Palm conduits don't handle the to-do list. Does anyone know if there are > plans to fully support the Palm's to-do list anytime soon? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Thu Mar 15 16:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75E2BD08 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id BAAF8390C1; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FF390C0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:01:38 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: compile error gnome-libs 1.2.12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, when i try to compile gnome-libs (using --enable-prefer-db1) i get the following error: make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o libgnome.la ../support/libgnomesupport.la -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm gcc -O2 -march=i686 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/gnome-dump-metadata -L/usr/local/lib -lglib gnome-dump.o .libs/libgnome.so -lglib -lm -ldl -lz -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lasound -L/usr/local/lib -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -ldl -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib gnome-dump.o: In function `main': gnome-dump.o(.text+0x43): undefined reference to `dbopen' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [gnome-dump-metadata] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12/libgnome' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-1.4beta2/gnome-libs-1.2.12' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 when i try to compile it without --prefer-enable-db1 i get somewhat the same error except for 'undefined referece to 'dbopen'', which is changed to 'undefined reference to '__db185_open''. i've installed both db1.85 and db2.7.7 with 1.85 support. anyone got a clue? hanne. From msoulier@nortelnetworks.com Thu Mar 15 17:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zcars04f.ca.nortel.com (zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD042CA7A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zcard00m.ca.nortel.com by zcars04f.ca.nortel.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:37 -0500 Received: from zmerd004.ca.nortel.com ([47.124.0.133]) by zcard00m.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G7W4QF1W; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from pmerd071 (pmerd071.ca.nortel.com [47.131.16.224]) by zmerd004.ca.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id G8ZQ6NL6; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:14:21 -0500 Received: from msoulier by pmerd071 with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14df6v-0004N4-00 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:41 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list Message-ID: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010315101451.Q2720@nortelnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwkim@MIT.EDU on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500 X-Mailer: Mutt-1.2.5i on Linux From: "Michael Soulier" X-Orig: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the to-do list. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com From george@gmsys.com Thu Mar 15 22:44:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F492BDDC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ve7frg.gmsys.com ([24.67.205.221]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010316034422.ZYLP27164.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ve7frg.gmsys.com>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:22 -0800 Received: (from george@localhost) by ve7frg.gmsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03906; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200103160344.TAA03906@ve7frg.gmsys.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness From: George Farris To: John Nelson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.47 - Preview Release) Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:44:17 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 12:50:55 -0500, John Nelson wrote: > On 15 Mar 2001, George Farris wrote: > > > How about an area in the file manager like a button or square that you > > can drag files to and then copy them back out. A temporary holding > > space so to speak. At any rate window to window dragging remains a > > pain. > > You mean like the drag well in NeXTStep. The Gnome guys could learn a LOT > from the organization and navigation of the NeXTStep OS. NeXT had > one of the simplest, cleanest, most intuitive interfaces around. I find > the Gnome panel and other navigation methods to be inconsistant and > counterintuitive. > Yup sure could. I'm also pretty disappointed that one can't even view rpm or tar.gz files which is something gmc has been able to do forever. Anyway I'm willing to be patient after all this is just a 1.0 release. I question whether it should be moved to the stable branch on ftp.gnome.org however. I really, really don't want the same thing to happen like last time GNOME was rushed out the door. What a lot of bad press:-( From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 00:24:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7562BEBE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA00331; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA21117; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA15542; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id AAA00246; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Michael Soulier Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: todo list In-Reply-To: <20010315161641.I2720@nortelnetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Okay, then I should go ahead and use jpilot instead. Do you know how I can remove gnome pilot? It automatically starts when gnome starts and I have no idea how to remove this... adlar On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:24:04PM -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > > is this really true? I just installed gnome pilot + pilot link. I couldn't > > make palm conduits to work yet. In this case I should go with jpilot? (I'm > > using RH 7 + kernel 2.4) > > I personally think so, but that's me. Gnomecal has to-do, but it's day > specific and the Palm to-do isn't, so the conduit doesn't do anything with the > to-do list. > > Mike > > -- > Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) > Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a > good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be > dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From rjp@mail.tele.dk Fri Mar 16 03:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cicero0.cybercity.dk (cicero0.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB02BC87; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from usr01.cybercity.dk (usr01.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.35]) by cicero0.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CF102AB5; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:18:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tele.dk (IDENT:rjp@port110.cvx1-hb.ppp.cybercity.dk [212.242.232.111]) by usr01.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64481; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rjp@mail.tele.dk) Message-ID: <3AB1CC35.3F7B50F7@mail.tele.dk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:17:57 +0100 From: "Rebecca J. Walter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, da MIME-Version: 1.0 To: egger@suse.de Cc: jens@gnome.org, Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 References: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I get back from the US on the 6th. I could probably help out the 7-8th if i could get some help with my travel expenses. I may not be the best person though since I don't speak a word of German and I'm not a coder. but let me know. bex From mandreiana@rdsnet.ro Fri Mar 16 03:49:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from corporate.fx.ro (corporate.fx.ro [193.231.208.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBA2BC3E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fx.ro (Beavis.fx.ro [193.231.208.21]) by corporate.fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mnq04499; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:50 +0200 Received: from rdsnet.ro ([193.231.212.69]) by fx.ro (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2G8mn632197; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3AB1D36C.6B679720@rdsnet.ro> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:48:44 +0200 From: Marius Andreiana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Those are created by magicdev, afaik. You can remove magicdev from the default session. -- Marius Andreiana From anthonyg63@hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 05:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f33.hotmail.com [216.32.181.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B7F2BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:59:17 -0800 Received: from 194.203.206.225 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.203.206.225] Reply-To: anthonyg63@bigfoot.com From: "Anthony Gardner" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Panrl Problem Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[25676B80:01C0AE08] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel option is picked. When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in the middle after restarting X. Any ideas? At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? TIA -Ants. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From darin@eazel.com Fri Mar 16 12:00:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A38012DC5E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:16 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus From: Darin Adler To: Louis Garcia , Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/15/01 11:46 PM, Louis Garcia at louisg00@bellsouth.net wrote: > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when using > nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel starts. When > nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second and then nautilus > redraws the background and places the icons on the desktop. It doesn't seem to > be anything wrong, it just doesn't look right. It's a bug we'd like to fix some day . -- Darin From jwkim@MIT.EDU Fri Mar 16 17:17:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48C2BEBF for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA12810 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.85]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA28504 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25736 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id RAA01212; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Subject: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... adlar From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Fri Mar 16 19:57:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A02BD19 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck.finkployd.com (gordon.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2DCgO003181 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:42:24 GMT Message-Id: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Subject: Session Manager Capplet From: cduck To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:00:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. thanks, -chris From ash@darkstar.gnome.org Fri Mar 16 23:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darkstar (host-216-78-86-34.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE072C9FE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2H4W9272769 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:32:09 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous gnome has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not get past zvt though due to an undefined reference: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' *** Error code 1 my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep on ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference to it is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing I've had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. thanks austin From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 05:40:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-137.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161C2BD21 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2HAfdg00382 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:41:38 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au>; from nhems@linuxfreemail.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Yea, i got bit by that once the first time I ever compilied gnome; so that was one of the first things i double checked. austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From kabalak@gmx.net Sat Mar 17 06:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38D672C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26390 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from b8039.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.7.128.57) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2001 11:06:44 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14eEZG-0000LF-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:08:18 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010317120818.A1309@gmx.net> References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. It's in gnome-core now. -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim From alex80it@libero.it Sat Mar 17 06:15:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2732C838 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from libero.it (151.29.192.59) by smtp1.libero.it (5.5.022) id 3AB1F23300031A34 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:15:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB346C0.198F5928@libero.it> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:13:04 +0100 From: Alex Damiani X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Screensaver exits account! Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi! I have a proble with my screensaver. I am running redHat Linux 7, and in Gnome, if I don't do anything for a few mins, the screensaver starts, but instead of showing me what I had chosen, it exits my account and asks to log in again. If I try to access the GNOME configuration tool, and I click on the "Screensaver" icon on the left hand side, it still exits my account without letting me change the settings. Could you tell me what's wrong, and, most of all, how to fix it? Is there a place I can go to look for a configuration file for the screensaver, that I can reset, or something? thanks in advance, Alex From ralph.slooten@quicknet.nl Sat Mar 17 07:37:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from porgy.srv.nld.sonera.net (mbox-01.soneraplaza.nl [195.66.15.137]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E532C934 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from qn-212-127-150-141.quicknet.nl ([212.127.150.141]:1055 "EHLO rotterdam.quicknet.nl") by soneramail.nl with ESMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:35:47 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Slooten X-Sender: To: Adlar Kim Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. there... gone ;-) I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) Ralph On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > adlar > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz From federico@ximian.com Sat Mar 17 10:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (unknown [148.223.152.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0D2D2AB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07903; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:49:46 -0600 Message-Id: <200103170249.UAA07903@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-memfrob: Frobnicate N bytes of S. To: Liguo Song Cc: GnomeList Subject: Re: Shortcut icons on desktop References: <3AB10B4C.4FEDE1DF@vanderbilt.edu> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Liguo Song writes: > How can I remove the shortcut icons to the CDROM, Floppy Disk on the > desktop? Bring up the context menu for the icons and select "Delete". Federico From jwkim@MIT.EDU Sat Mar 17 11:16:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3EF2DBF5 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24411; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29624; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from options.mit.edu (OPTIONS.MIT.EDU [18.42.1.169]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by options.mit.edu (8.8.7/4.7) id LAA02483; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Adlar Kim To: Ralph Slooten Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... adlar On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > From jlwallen@home.com Sat Mar 17 11:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585AB2CB43 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com ([24.10.87.23]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010317164828.ONPK20878.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@willow.lusvil1.ky.home.com> for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:48:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jack Wallen X-X-Sender: To: gnome list Subject: gnome 1.4 not starting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm -q gnome-core i'm getting: gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? -- \||/ J A C K 00 Not an even field to be on > Feels like standing still - for eons and eons W A L L E N From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sat Mar 17 12:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCB2DF60 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id CABBB38AA0; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBA38A9F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, when starting gnome i get this: /convert: No such file or directory gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. and then a whole load of these messages, each with another image. anyone got an idea what the problem can be? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sat Mar 17 12:58:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F9E32BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa11184; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24732; 17 Mar 2001 17:56 GMT Message-ID: <3AB3A560.8AE73E49@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:56:48 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wallen Cc: gnome list Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 not starting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion gnome-core-1.3.0 is as far as I know the latest version, and that included in GNOME 1.4beta2 (well, it's the one I have anyway). Upon the final release I assume the version number will be changed to 1.4.0. Jack Wallen wrote: > i just upgraded, via red-carpet, to gnome 1.4. however the gnome that is > starting is the older gnome (that was with Red Hat Fisher). when i do rpm > -q gnome-core i'm getting: > > gnome-core-1.3.0-0_helix_4 > > how do i start 1.4? is there a trick? From jbrownin@runbox.com Sat Mar 17 13:37:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5162BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ppp-16-239.kems.net ([168.187.16.239]) by pluto.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14eLZB-0002iv-00; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:36:42 +0100 Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? From: Jeff Browning To: Adlar Kim Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 17 Mar 2001 21:39:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you're using an RPM based distrib, as root, type in rpm -e gnome-pilot to remove the package. Jeff On 17 Mar 2001 11:16:23 -0500, Adlar Kim wrote: > did you mean remove from panel? is that going to remove the program? I > thought it would just be remove the icon from the bar but still running... > > adlar > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ralph Slooten wrote: > > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > > there... gone ;-) > > > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > > > Ralph > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... > > > > > > adlar > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From drifter@outerlounge.de Sat Mar 17 13:58:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-140.gwdg.de (RAS23-140.gwdg.de [134.76.23.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B912BABE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HIveg20830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:57:40 +0100 From: Jens Stroebel To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 Message-ID: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: Jens Stroebel , gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: ; from noodle@pigforce.warande.net on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 06:06:43PM +0100, Hanne wrote: > hi, hiya, > when starting gnome i get this: > /convert: No such file or directory this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... wrong. Quite a few things use it. HTH, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From ash@hobbiton.org Sat Mar 17 23:51:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-85-186.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.85.186]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04D2BE08 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ash@localhost) by darkstar (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2HNqNX19799 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ash) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:52:23 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010317185222.A19779@darkstar> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Friday 16 March, Austin hall gripes: > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs > but the building process will not get past zvt... On examination of gnome-libs-1.2.9/Makefile i find this: ZVT_LIBS = -lzvt -lutil -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm is this correct? is there a more gnome-inclined individual then myself who can tell me if i am missing any kind of library. thanks austin From esoteric@denali.atlnet.com Sun Mar 18 00:26:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from denali.atlnet.com (denali.atlnet.com [208.148.155.187]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15A2BE08 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from denali.atlnet.com (esoteric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by denali.atlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA17217 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3AB4464A.FDC16F4D@denali.atlnet.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:23:22 -0500 From: Wandered Inn Organization: Nocturnal Aviation Software Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How to remove gnome pilot? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ralph Slooten wrote: > > Right click on the icon in your task bar, and select "Remove Program".. > there... gone ;-) > > I suggest you try Jpilot (it's for Gnome... and got nothing to do with > Java as it's name implies). I use it now and it works great ;-) > > Ralph > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Adlar Kim wrote: > > > > > After finding out that gnome-pilot can't sync to-do list.. I decided to go > > with other application. Can someone tell me how I can remove this program? > > I seems like it automatically starts whenever I start gnome... Actually, the developer's name begins with a J, and that's where it gets it's name. It's in the docs. > > > > adlar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > -- > ICQ: 25543458 Homepage: http://www.axllent.cjb.net > PGP Public Key: http://www.lintux.cx/~ralph/pubkey.tar.gz > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric@denali.atlnet.com "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." - Albert Einstein From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 02:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498802DC73 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust119.tnt13.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.120.119]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 4CF2428AA for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Keyboard question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel menu? P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 04:50:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA9AC2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6027 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p75.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 09:50:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:48:28 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: gnome-ist Subject: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 2503 Lines: 51 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I try to compile gnome-vfs-1.0.0, but the compilation doesn't succeed. It stops at: make[3]: Entering directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c rm -f .libs/http-method.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../libgnomevfs -I../libgnomevfs -I../intl -I../intl -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/app/gnome/include/gconf/1 -I/app/gnome/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/app/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/app/gnome/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o libs/http-method.lo http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Do I miss a paricular lib? Thanks. Best regards, Klaus From pims2@dds.nl Sun Mar 18 06:11:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rubellite.lion-access.net (rubellite.lion-access.net [212.19.217.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525C72BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dds.nl (1Cust87.tnt30.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.154.87]) by rubellite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with ESMTP id 1003B2887 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:15:38 +0100 From: Pim Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bitmap format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot (file type not resolution) THNX in advance for any help... From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 18 06:18:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB892BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14807 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Received: from 213-21-43-234.surf-callino.de (213.21.43.234) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 11:18:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 In-Reply-To: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > libs/http-method.lo > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without > a cast > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this function) > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. Regards, Jens From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:34:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBA2BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICYqx06764 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181234.f2ICYqx06764@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Evolution and the Pilot Connect Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I thought that after you install Ximian Gnome and Evolution that options would appear in the Gnome config tool so that you could hook link the two during a hot sync, or am I missing something somewhere? Thanks Sean From tardis@mediaone.net Sun Mar 18 07:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157B32BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cinnur.blueberry.net (tardiss.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.53.160]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2ICdax10614 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103181239.f2ICdax10614@chmls05.mediaone.net> From: "Hartnett" To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Hartnett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2030 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pilot and Calendar Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When syncing a pilot with the Gnome desktop, how do I get my appointments to appear in the default calendar? I'm not sure what file to open, though I have looked and when doing a sync it does open the calendar, but no appointments appear. The address info all appears fine in the Gnome Card file app. I'm running Ximian Gnome on RH 7.0 with all the latest updates through the "Red Carpet Installer". Thanks Sean From noodle@warande3076.warande.uu.nl Sun Mar 18 07:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from pigforce.warande.net (warande3076.warande.uu.nl [131.211.123.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50212BB71 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix, from userid 12347) id 1D92338A87; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigforce.warande.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767C38567 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:54:29 +0100 (CET) From: Hanne To: Subject: Re: error starting gnome 1.4beta2 In-Reply-To: <20010317195740.A20796@outerlounge.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Jens Stroebel wrote: > > when starting gnome i get this: > > /convert: No such file or directory > > this is part of the ImageMagick - packet... > same thing happened to me once when while reviewing the > space-issues at ours, I thought we wouldn't need it... > wrong. Quite a few things use it. thanks, i installed Imagemagick, and now this convert error is gone. which leaves me with: gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: /usr/local/share/pixmaps/gnome-session.png All fallbacks failed. anyone? hanne --- http://pigforce.warande.net --- al het bestaande ontstaat zonder reden blijft in stand uit zwakheid en sterft terloops From klaus.dahlke@gmx.de Sun Mar 18 10:41:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DC92BB31 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24013 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Received: from a1as01-p88.fra.tli.de (HELO mail.gmx.net) (195.252.197.88) by mail.gmx.net (mp024-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 15:41:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:39:35 +0100 From: Klaus Dahlke To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-ist Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 Message-ID: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> References: <20010318104828.A1456@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:18:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 48 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion But : $ gconf-config --version 1.0.0 $ gconf-config --libs -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Regards, Klaus On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: > > -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > > libs/http-method.lo > > http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': > > http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) > > http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' > > http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer > without > > a cast > > http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) > > http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this > function) > > make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' > > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. > > Regards, > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792C2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01165 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:37:10 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318163710.B1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 08:44:55AM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 0844.55 +0100): > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the pannel > menu? Go to Panel Global Config, and in Misc tab, enable the Bindings section. By clicking in the capture buttons you will only need to push the keys you want. As the rare symbol keys are normally set to Meta or another modifier, you will have to hit it plus a normal key (like "X" or "Z", similar to "Shift + Z", but "Symbol + Z", which will appear listed as "Meta + Z" or "Mod# + Z" when you use the capture option). > P.S. I have a MS Natural Keyboard (the only micro$oft product i like :)) Maybe you will have to play with xmodmap cmd to change config if the key is not detected, it should if you chose the right model when installing. Try xev and see if the key produces something. You will also need to use "xmodmap" if you want it to work as normal key instead as a modifier. But trust me, it is better as modifier, cos you can do all your window management with it (maximize, minizme, change desktop), instead of wasting it with a single task. Having it as Hyper (L and R) removes a lot of problems, not more "When I hit Alt + Mouse1 it moves the window instead of doing foo function of bar app, as manual describes". Note: I dunno why but my computer does not launch menu panel ("Hyper + X" here), I will wait for 1.4, maybe it is fixed there. It worked with Gnome 1.2.2, but not since I got the 1.2.4 core, it just flashes focus. I do not care much either, I just used it for the Log Out entry and a few more things. I also found that as I have Hyper_R and Hyper_L, the config tool has both, but does not allows to use both at the same time. Using a keycombo it gives Mod4 (plus the normal key), with both Hyper_R and Hyper_L, which is a lot nicer (I can use any hand, instead of being locked into usin only one side). GSR From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 11:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED02BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01137 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:16:15 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl>; from pims2@dds.nl on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:15:38PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > (file type not resolution) Try "man xsetroot" for info. But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters would give you an image in root window placed as you want). GSR From olau@hardworking.dk Sun Mar 18 11:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B0542BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5876 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: from 30.ppp1-2.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.158) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 16:55:34 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IGdPn07109; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 17:39:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Pim Schellart's message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:44:55 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there a way to make the windows buttons on my keybord open the > pannel menu? Does the "grab key" button in foot menu->settings->desktop->panel->misc. recognize the key? Else you have to tell X about it first. One way to do that is to put something like keycode 115 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R clear Mod4 add Mod4 = Hyper_L add Mod4 = Hyper_R keycode 117 = XF86Start in .Xmodmap and run xmodmap .Xmodmap (or restart X, however that isn't needed). This makes the Micros~2 flag keys work as modifier keys (like Meta) which you can use for, for instance, window manager bindings instead of Meta to avoid clashes between programs like Emacs and the global bindings - nowadays Sawfish even has an easy way to switch all bindings from the default (Meta, I think) modifier to Hyper. The last Windows key is bound to XF86Start which you can then bind with the "grab key" button to start the panel menu. If you really want all your Windows keys to act as menu shortcuts, try something like keycode 115 = XF86Start keycode 116 = XF86Start keycode 117 = XF86Start instead. There might be another, more descriptive key symbol than XF86Start - I wouldn't know since I don't use my extra key for a panel shortcut but rather the slash '/' since it is placed very unhandy in the Danish keyboard layout. All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Sun Mar 18 12:38:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (41-MADR-X50.libre.retevision.es [62.83.21.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BFD2BCA5 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01517 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:39:25PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 1739.25 +0100): > All this assumes you're using a 101 or 102 keys keyboard layout - > check your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change it if it says 104 or 105. I have: ---8<--- Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" [...] LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control [...] XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc105)+es" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbModel "pc105" XkbLayout "es" EndSection --->8--- And I use as .Xmodmap the following: ---8<--- ! Alt works as Alt and as Meta keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L ! Make the rare key work as Hyper clear mod4 keycode 115 = Hyper_L add mod4 = Hyper_L keycode 116 = Hyper_R add mod4 = Hyper_R ! The menu key works as compose keycode 117 = Multi_key --->8--- So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. GSR From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 15:35:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F332DC53 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:36:49 +0200 Subject: gnome 1.4 release schedule From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:36:16 +0200 Message-ID: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? Bye...... From hermanr@mailroom.com Sun Mar 18 16:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37D2BC57 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (p0771.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.8]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2IL6Iq00101 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:06:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:07:09 +0100 From: Herman Roozenbeek To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: launch feedback capplet in control-center 1.4.0? Message-ID: <20010318220709.A10106@bommelstein.wanadoo.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In the help file for control-center 1.4.0, I see an item concerning the "Launch Feedback" capplet. But I can't find it nowhere... What has happened to it? Herman From leonchiver@xnet.ro Sun Mar 18 16:38:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (mail.remote1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B82C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 12dial168.xnet.ro ([217.10.214.168]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:39:40 +0200 Subject: gnome file open dialog. From: Leon Chiver To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Evolution: 0000000a-0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.14.20.52 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day when gnome will be as easy and productive to use as kde is? I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there where it should be. From mxw00u@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Sun Mar 18 16:48:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cs.Nott.AC.UK (pat.cs.nott.ac.uk [128.243.20.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4330C2C912 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from robin.cs.nott.ac.uk by pat.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa20937; 18 Mar 2001 21:47 GMT Received: from pcd5386.nottingham.ac.uk by robin.Cs.Nott.AC.UK id aa24823; 18 Mar 2001 21:46 GMT Message-ID: <3AB52CE0.372B1D27@cs.nott.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:47:12 +0000 From: Matthew Walton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome file open dialog. References: <082264039211231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Isn't the GNOME file dialog just the standard GTK+ one? GTK+ certainly needs a better dialog - a button for the ~ directory should be there at the very least, and I would definitely prefer something closer to what KDE2 has. One hopes GTK+ 2 has better dialogs planned, but it would be nice to see better ones added to GTK 1.2. Surely it's not too hard to replace the dialog with something nicer without breaking the interface? That's the point of using a fake OO architecture for the library in the first place isn't it? And if one can't be put in GTK+, perhaps one should be added to gnome-libs. Leon Chiver wrote: > I've installed gnome 1.4 beta2 from ximian, and I have to say that UGLY, > HARD TO USE file-open-dialog is still there. When will come that day > when gnome will be as easy and productive to > use as kde is? > > I'm using gnome but I expected more from gnome 1.4. It's still not there > where it should be. From jh0u@hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:14:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f38.hotmail.com [216.32.181.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329C2BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Received: from 63.209.94.121 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.209.94.121] From: "ordinary user" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2001 22:14:47.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7BAD5F0:01C0AFF8] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion hi, I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an impossible situation?... Any help would be appreciated. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sun Mar 18 18:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3372BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2IN10H09212; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103182301.f2IN10H09212@mail.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: Three stupid questions From: Ben FrantzDale To: Pim Schellart Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AAB5822.EC766BF7@dds.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.06.23.22 - Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 11 Mar 2001 11:49:06 +0100, Pim Schellart wrote: > I recently swiched from KDE to GNOME but now I have three questions. > (these are stupid questions I know but I havn't got the time to browse > TFM) > > 1. How can I change the gdm background image? > 2. How can I delete top level submenu's in the panel? (the applets menu > for instance)? > 3. (enlightenment question) When enlightenment starts with the blue > steel theme you can see the progress bar and the two bars in the middle > but the rest is gray (like when you only start X and not a window > manager) it starts normaly so there isn't a real problem but I want the > graphics to look > good to :-) That's an enlightenment theme issue... ask on the enlightenment list (e-develop@enlightenment.org) The theme determines what the startup looks like, so it sounds like Blue Steel is missing something... --Ben > Thank you all in advance! > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 18:33:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769D72BAC2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm14-a33.dial.sovam.com ([195.218.132.33]:1408 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:37 +0300 Received: (qmail 3817 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 18 Mar 2001 19:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7476 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Mar 2001 19:58:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C20010317001205=2EA5344=40flame-in-night=2Etaurussoft=2Eorg?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=3E=3B_from_dmitry=40taurussoft=2Eorg_on_=F3=C2=D4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_17=2C_2001_at_00:12:05_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP localnet folder. From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 19:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAE32E1EE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12507; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:18:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 19:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > Hi All! > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): 1. add yourself to the mail group 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant for Evo to import it > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > useless for me :( I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some > differnt ways. Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you imply in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and I'm sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security wise but they are still options. > > Dmitry > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > process my IMAP localnet folder. Evolution handles IMAP fine... Jeff From subb3@attglobal.net Sun Mar 18 20:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caesar.lynix.com (cc885639-a.flushing1.mi.home.com [24.182.96.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BFC52DCE0 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4501 invoked by uid 1005); 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000 From: Subba Rao To: Gnome Users Subject: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports Message-ID: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Reply-To: Subba Rao Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different login session, the applets were using different ports. Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Subba Rao subb3@attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ From darin@eazel.com Sun Mar 18 21:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E39C92D3B7 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.80.111.106 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:00:58 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Problem compiling gnome-vfs-1.0.0 From: Darin Adler To: Klaus Dahlke Cc: Gnome Users , Jens Finke Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010318163935.A2826@p49979.badhg.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Klaus Dahlke wrote: >>> -DPREFIX=\"/app/gnome\" -g -O2 -c http-method.c -fPIC -DPIC -o >>> libs/http-method.lo >>> http-method.c: In function `vfs_module_init': >>> http-method.c:2816: `GError' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2816: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >>> http-method.c:2816: for each function it appears in.) >>> http-method.c:2816: `gconf_error' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> http-method.c:2817: parse error before `*' >>> http-method.c:2836: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer >> without >>> a cast >>> http-method.c:2852: `attr' undeclared (first use in this function) >>> http-method.c:2868: `proxy_value' undeclared (first use in this >> function) >>> make[3]: *** [http-method.lo] Error 1 >>> make[3]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0/modules' >>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/app/work/gnome-vfs-1.0' >>> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:18:51 Jens Finke wrote: >> Looks like you need a more recent GConf version. on 3/18/01 7:39 AM, Klaus Dahlke at klaus.dahlke@gmx.de wrote: > $ gconf-config --version > 1.0.0 > > $ gconf-config --libs > -L/app/gnome/lib -L/usr/lib -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP > -lORBitutil -lglib -lm Perhaps you have two sets of the gconf headers. Maybe gconf is installed in two different prefixes. The error above are definitely an example of the gnome-vfs compile including headers from an old gconf. -- Darin From dmitry@taurussoft.org Sun Mar 18 22:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA42BE8C for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts18-a257.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.6.3]:1565 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:19 +0300 Received: (qmail 4441 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 03:38:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 2001 03:39:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=3C984961259=2E10834=2E0=2Ecamel=40tazmanian-devil=2Ehelixcod?= =?KOI8-R?Q?e=2Ecom=3E=3B_from_fejj=40ximian=2Ecom_on_=F0=CE=C4=2C_=ED=C1?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=D2_19=2C_2001_at_03:20:58_+0300?= X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 62 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion îÁ đÎÄ, 19 íÁŇ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÎÁĐÉÓÁĚ: > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > Hi All! > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > mail? > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on /var/spool/mail > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) Fully agree with "not recommended" > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > for > Evo to import it So I'll have to dup my messages? > > > First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes > > (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only > Evo > > but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty > > useless for me :( > > I don't see why you couldn't do #4 above. Because it's some more work, some more tuning? some more disk space. Balsa do it without tricks att all. > > > IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by > some > > differnt ways. > > Why is movemail wrong? movemail is ONE of the "different" ways you > imply > in your second sentence. I gave you 4 other ways you could do it and > I'm > sure there are others. Yea, some of them are not very good security > wise > but they are still options. All proposed by you methods are SYSTEM methods. Is Evo itself able to deal with existing mboxes (in camel part not to use camel_movemail() )? Why I should make 'magic passes' when other programs don't require them? > > > > PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to > > process my IMAP localnet folder. > > Evolution handles IMAP fine... > I'm not doubt about it, Evolution works fine and with mboxes but only purges them after itself ;) I've liked Evo look and feel but until it uses camel_movemail() by default (more clear without alternative) I don't want to use it. Dmitry From fejj@ximian.com Sun Mar 18 23:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACC62D1DE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tazmanian-devil.ximian.priv (garm.ximian.com [141.154.95.2]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28135; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Evolution & movemail From: Jeffrey Stedfast To: Dmitry G "." Mastrukov Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> References: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <20010318225856.A7469@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> <984961259.10834.0.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> <20010319063930.A6226@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:16:29 -0500 Message-Id: <984975390.15839.2.camel@tazmanian-devil.helixcode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001 06:39:30 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > ˝Đ żÝÔ, 19 źĐŕ 2001 03:20:58 Jeffrey Stedfast ÝĐßŘáĐŰ: > > On 18 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0300, Dmitry G . Mastrukov wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > > > Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving > > mail? > > > > Sure, you have a couple of choices (some better than others): > > > > 1. add yourself to the mail group > > 2. chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail > Strange, I'm always member of mail group and have 1777 on > /var/spool/mail Okay, I guess I misunderstood you. You're complaining that Evolution sucks all the mail out of /var/spool/mail/$USER by itself, even without the use of a movemail program. I thought you were complaining that Evolution had to use an external movemail program for you (because Evolution wasn't able to lock /var/spool/mail by itself). > > > 3. setuid evolution* (not recommended AT ALL) > Fully agree with "not recommended" > > > 4. configure procmail to copy mail to a location specifically meant > > for > > Evo to import it > So I'll have to dup my messages? Currently, yes. However, we are working on a way so that you won't have to. Jeff From jens@se.linux.org Mon Mar 19 02:33:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from missfunny.se.linux.org (unknown [195.22.75.81]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5A2BAB1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jens@localhost) by missfunny.se.linux.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J7adC07367 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:36:38 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Hjalmarsson To: Subject: Sound and X from remote computers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I am searching for information regarding the possibility to make GNOME send it's sound to a sound server on a remote machine (when someone on that remote machine logs into a server, with X). Since GNOME comes with esd, I was trying to get it to work remotely, but no luck yet. I made a very small patch (I am no developer, but I do know a tiny bit C) for Enlightenment, which actually worked (amazingly enough), but the same thing for GNOME seems to fail. The source (gnome-libs/-1.2.9/libgnome/gnome-sound.c) contains gnome_sound_connection = esd_open_sound (esound_hostname); which means that this should work, and I tried putting this line above esound_hostname = getenv("ESPEAKER"); Should this be enough? Is there a place where you actually can tell it to use the ESPEAKER variable (which is standard for the apps that come with esound)? Jens From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 08:32:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A282E17E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04049 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:04:37 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. From: G Annamalai Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello All, I have finally managed to configure my X windows. The X server is working fine now. But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. Virtual 1280 1024 I did this but it didn't help. Can anybody help me? Thanx in advance. Cheers, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 09:12:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428C2E14A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ox-0008Gt-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:51 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f0Ow-00057l-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:12:50 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JDeZ201240; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:40:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "Suse-Linux-E" , "Gnome-List" Subject: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs etc and start again by hand. Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove Ive already done the rpms etc Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR thanks dids From jacob@ximian.com Mon Mar 19 09:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (unknown [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81702DD3C for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14f0jf-0003L8-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports From: jacob berkman To: Subba Rao Cc: Gnome Users In-Reply-To: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> References: <20010318203738.A4394@attglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:34:15 -0500 Message-Id: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 18 Mar 2001 20:37:38 +0000, Subba Rao wrote: > Hi, > > I do periodic nmap scans on one machine that has some important services > installed on it. I have also installed GNOME on that machine. When I log on > to that machine, I do get the GNOME control panel to make the interaction a > little more colorful. A port scan conducted during my login session show that > different applets on the control panel use different ports on the system. > I have blocked these ports using ipchains. The bigger problem is, on a different > login session, the applets were using different ports. > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: ORBIIOPUSock=1 ORBIIOPIPv4=0 ORBIIOPIPv6=0 jacob -- C-x i .signature From j.parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 11:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk (prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.76.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33E62DDFC for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.85.11]) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14f2Tk-0002XX-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:25:56 +0000 Received: by endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:17:03 -0000 Message-ID: <5FE97DD96380D111821E00805F2720E901E5BA8C@endor.ee.surrey.ac.uk> From: John Parsons To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:16:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Scanner: exiscan *14f2Tk-0002XX-00*fEiZUcrbH9w* Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion One of my RedHat 6.2 server crahsed last Friday, and now I keep getting the following message in /var/log/messages: init: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes I am not running gdm locally, but do need to provide X logon for terminal clients. Every five minutes I keep getting the following sort of message on the console: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (5366), but seems to have been murdered mysteriously. "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Can someone help me please, as I am not all that hot with all the X stuff. It was working fine before the reboot on Friday, now it doesn't work at all. Cheers John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ John Parsons Network & Servers Team Leader Surrey Satellite Technology Limited Email: J.Parsons@eim.surrey.ac.uk Phone: 01483 879278 Ext. 3634 Mobile: 07836 248733 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe010.worldonline.dk (fe010.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.195]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DD82D620 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:23 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2JIErB01428; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:14:53 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: Ole Laursen Date: 19 Mar 2001 19:14:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: G Annamalai's message of "19 Mar 2001 19:11:32 +0530" Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. You probably have some lines in XF86Config like Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" EndSubSection [...] The mode lines tells X which resolutions it may use - you can switch between them with Ctrl + Alt + Keypad +/-. The largest resolution will be used as the size of the desktop so if you want a smaller one, simply delete the offending mode. I hope this helps? BTW, the first mode in the list will be used when you start up so unless you like small resolutions, put the largest one up in front as I have done with mine. You could also delete all modes except the one you actually use, but then you lose the sometimes useful ability to quickly "zoom" in by switching resolution with the C-A-+/- combinations. > I searched for a solution to this and found in the archive a similar > question. There it was asked to set the "Virtual" parameter of the > "Display" subsection of the "Screen" section in the XF86Config file. > > Virtual 1280 1024 Didn't know this one, maybe I'll try it one day - I sometimes need some extra space. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From olau@hardworking.dk Mon Mar 19 13:14:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe050.worldonline.dk (fe050.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.206]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0A3B2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2734 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: from 119.ppp1-5.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.91.119) by fe050.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 18:14:29 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2IMFU001056; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:15:30 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> From: Ole Laursen Date: 18 Mar 2001 23:15:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"'s message of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:37:56 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > So 117 works as Compose without problems (ScrollLock does not work as > Compose, it seems, and I do not care much, too far from the rest of > keys). I did not needed to change to 101 - 102. Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From famrom@idecnet.com Mon Mar 19 13:27:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (156-MAD2-X31.libre.retevision.es [62.83.131.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB7C2C8A2 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01530 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:14 +0100 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Keyboard question Message-ID: <20010319192714.A1527@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB46777.26051EC7@dds.nl> <20010318183756.A1446@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from olau@hardworking.dk on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:15:28PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion olau@hardworking.dk (2001-03-18 at 2315.28 +0100): > Mmm. It is not that I thought it was impossible to make it work with > the 104/105 keys layout (and it obviously isn't :-), it's just easier > to switch to 101/102 - else I think you're letting the server map Meta > to the Windows keys when starting up just to let it remove the binding > again when it processes the .xmodmap file. Not that it matters. Yep, it mapped Meta to Rare Symbol. I preffer to have matching hw and config (imagine that you define your keyboard in one place and it is used to config all the required items). If the user knows what is going, no problem at all. GSR From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 13:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D52BAAA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-00035v-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f4hn-0006Mc-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:48:35 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JIGSR02808 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:16:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids Reply-To: mail@diddyland.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 but when i try to i get this message 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) *** was found! I Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? thanks dids From cduck_balsa@flashmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:18:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E52BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6xW020252 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:59:36 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:21:32 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From richard@diddyland.com Mon Mar 19 16:59:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1892CED9 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0005aH-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from rdearlove.freeserve.co.uk ([62.137.132.24] helo=host.diddyland.top) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14f7g5-0001XD-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:59:01 +0000 Received: from pooter (pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2]) by host.diddyland.top (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id f2JLQvR05151; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:26:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: host.diddyland.top: Host pooter.diddyland.top [192.168.0.2] claimed to be pooter From: "dids" To: "chris grierson" , Subject: RE: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:06:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <20010319112132.1c5e5b02.cduck_balsa@flashmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks thats the kind of info im looking for ! regards dids > -----Original Message----- > From: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]On > Behalf Of chris grierson > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:22 PM > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to > remove > > > for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' > for the old version > > assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did > a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this > generally solves a lot of problems. > > otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see > what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. > > you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig > -f ' (assuming has all your library > paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and > running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file > > i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to > manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall > if that was the actual step that solved my problem... > > -chris > > (sorry if this is too basic to help...) > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 > dids wrote: > > > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > > > but when i try to i get this message > > > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > > *** was found! I > > > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and > remove them ??? > > > > thanks > > dids > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From roberto@susq.com Mon Mar 19 17:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from phl-fw-dmz.susq.com (phl-fw-dmz.susq.com [141.162.101.251]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927CE2CA84 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from trex-12.mds.susq.com by phl-fw-dmz.susq.com via smtpd (for menu.gnome.org [209.116.70.71]) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:41:33 UT Received: from claymore (claymore.dev.susq.com [141.162.1.43]) by trex.dev.susq.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05484 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: Roberto Moral To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: error compiling gnome-libs Message-Id: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Organization: Susquehanna Partners, GP. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. Thank you in advance. -- ============================================================================== == Roberto Moral Denche == == == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == == roberto@susq.com == to go away == == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == ============================================================================== == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == == strictly prohibited. == ============================================================================== From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 19 22:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F5F2BAF1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19150 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:08:14 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Desktop area Vs monitor screen size. References: From: G Annamalai Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:15:08 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Himanshu J. Gohel" writes: > Hi Anna > > On 19-Mar-01, you wrote: > > -=> But when I do a startx and start the GNOME, my desktop occupies > -=> an area greater than the actual screen size. The font size is > -=> all correct. Only the size of the desktop is big. > > Is this something as trivial as your window manager presenting you with > virtual screens? Can you turn that option on in your window manager (you Enlightenment -----------------^ > didn't say which one you were using). Oh.. I posted this question here 'cos basically I couldn't tell whether it is gnome related or xfree86 related, but was subscribed to gnome list, only a few days ago. The question that I asked was there in the xfree86 faq (Q.D2). ( http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/#virtual ) I guess I should have read it first. I am sorry if this annoyed anyone. FWIW, I initially had in XF86Config file Section "Screen" ... Subsection "Display" ... Modes "800x600" "640x480" "1024x768" ... I changed the Modes line to Modes "800x600" "640x480" In 1024x768 mode my screen was flickering badly. So removed it, instead of keeping it somewhere in the "Modes". Also I removed the "Virtual" parameter. Now its all working fine. Thanks for all those who tried to help me out. I have one more question, though. Just to make sure I know whats happening. I have depth 8, 16 and 24 in my XF86Config file. Which depth is chosen by default? For me all the commands - "startx" "startx -- -bpp 16" "startx -- -bpp 24" seems to look the same. Well, I guess thats another XFree86 question! Maybe I'll try someother place. But then, if somebody can reply me personally (instead of on this list), I would be happy. Thanks and Regards, anna -- ``Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.'' - Philip K. Dick From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Tue Mar 20 02:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B32CB77 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13718 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id IAA13710 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28251 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:59:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09932 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:03:15 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: 1.4 for download References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A40@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where can I find binaries or sources to download. I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. JRC -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From havardw@stud.ntnu.no Tue Mar 20 05:17:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from due.stud.ntnu.no (due.stud.ntnu.no [129.241.56.71]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF302BAF1 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF9317B3B; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (jeeves [129.241.56.14]) by due.stud.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933917AC3; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havardw@localhost) by jeeves.stud.ntnu.no (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id f2KAHIl13744; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: jeeves.stud.ntnu.no: havardw owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:17:18 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5vard_Wigtil?= To: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: 1.4 for download In-Reply-To: <3AB700B3.30C6795A@cetelem.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Jean-Raymond.Chauviere wrote: > Where can I find binaries or sources to download. > I didn't find them on my usual mirrors. Gnome 1.4 isn't out yet, but you can usually find release candidate 1 at a mirror near you at GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/. If that doesn't work, try http://ftp.acc.umu.se/Public/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ H=E5vard mailto:havardw@stud.ntnu.no||http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardw||73 52 55 76 All it takes to start an avalanche is a single snowflake||Or a snowboarder Oh! Un Fraggle! Regarde, maman! J'ai attrap=E9 un Fraggle! From lavasani@connect.org.uk Tue Mar 20 06:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea.connect.org.uk (gaea.connect.org.uk [195.188.160.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564292DE7F for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (lavasani@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk [138.253.127.164]) by gaea.connect.org.uk with ESMTP id f2KBODb14279 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:13 GMT From: "M. Lavasani" Received: (from lavasani@localhost) by quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk (8.11.1/CONNECT-DTS-3.0D10) id f2KBOCb25691 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 GMT Message-Id: <200103201124.f2KBOCb25691@quioch.connect.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Is this the right ordr ? To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:24:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion looking at the page : http://www.gnome.org/start/installing/index.php3 There is a list of program that needed for Gnome desktop. Most of the program in the list are old (eg the latest stable version of gnome-libs is 1.2.13 but the list recommands gnome-libs-1.2.3 ). Is this for any special reason or just the page has not been updated ?? Any help appreciated. Thanks __Mehdi From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 07:48:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907EF2BA85; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fLYa-0005gE-05; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:12 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.68]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fLYO-1NtrEmC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:48:00 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00566; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:46:41 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 really is :) What I can come up with is: - Nautilus - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) - More documentation - Bugfixes ;) - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) - "Fifth Toe" applications package - reorganisation of gnome-utils - ... [gosh, I need help] Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! Thanks a lot. mawa -- schmooz, n.: Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. schmooz collector, n.: Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. From jdub@aphid.net Tue Mar 20 07:57:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.229]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208142CDC5; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sdcax48-043.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.202.43]) by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2KCuol00705; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:56:52 +1100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A2361D7A; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:57:17 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010320235717.L24812@aphid.net> References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac12 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. Do mention the menu triangulation code when you bring up GTK+ 1.2.9, it is one of the most wonderful additions to GNOME 1.4. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 20 17:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48242BF5D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fUxW-0003hQ-02; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:34 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.211]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fUxR-0L7BqaC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:50:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA31270; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:48:31 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Weird Nautilus crash Message-ID: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi people, for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet it crashes everytime: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 #2 0x8070efa in main () I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the last time.) Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? mawa -- [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:01:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721E2C88B for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA29675 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210101.UAA29675@mail3.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:03:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/plain It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It gnome-1.4 out yet? I see 1.4.0 versions of software on the gnome ftp site. Tarballs like gnome-core-1.4, control-center-1.4.0, gnome-applets-1.4.0, and so on. are these pre-releases?? --=-bjYDyKSYLyoVxoxnQtaY-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:07:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (mail5.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D352BD51 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail5.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA21014 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:12:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: control-center default urls From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:08:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/plain Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? --=-Ui8ps7/NJVtqpInFK0QI-- From louisg00@bellsouth.net Tue Mar 20 20:20:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (mail4.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4471F2C852 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-61-40-136.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.40.136]) by mail4.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA26801 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:25:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:21:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/plain Ok guys last question, I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide? Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ok guys last question,

I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing gnome-users-guide?

Thanks --=-YVTJvyl59bPGsvD2Hp12-- From ramiro@eazel.com Tue Mar 20 20:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ratatosk.eazel.com (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784C2BD51; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from eazel.com (fw.fateware.com [64.121.110.146]) by ratatosk.eazel.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAIX7600.TPB; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AB8028E.AF5AD48@eazel.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:23:26 -0800 From: Ramiro Estrugo Organization: Eazel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com Subject: Re: Weird Nautilus crash References: <20010320234831.A27590@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The best place to post this is nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com. I set the followup to there. This sounds like a serious problem and I would like to help you figure it out. Can you file a bug at http://bugzilla.eazel.com ? Also try to put as much information as possible in the bug report to help someone reproduce and debug the problem. You can also try hanging out in #nautilus on irc.gnome.org and one of the Nautilus hackers can help you debug the problem. -re Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi people, > > for months and months now Nautilus has compiled perfectly for me, yet > it crashes everytime: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > 509 best_visual = tmp_list->data; > > #0 gdk_rgb_choose_visual () at gdkrgb.c:509 > #1 0x4039ca81 in gdk_rgb_init () at gdkrgb.c:644 > #2 0x8070efa in main () > > I've been translating Nautilus 'blind', without being able to test my > translations, for months now. But I'll finally try to track this crash > down now, as I need some current screenshots for my paper. (See why > I'm obnoxiously posting this all over the lists? I promise this is the > last time.) > > Has anyone experienced this crash, too? Can it be fixed? > > mawa > -- > [...] your 'I am an expert' attitude which is much worse than the > "c.o.l.a. attitude" that you like to complain about so much. > -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Tue Mar 20 21:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793B12BD08 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GV3KW24Q; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list Subject: Best gnome debugging/development environment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 From alan.patterson@Nexan.com Wed Mar 21 03:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nx-mail.nexan.com (nx-mail.nexan.com [195.153.150.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B852BA85 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by nx-mail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:38 -0000 Message-ID: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: Alan Patterson To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gnome-terminal Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:32:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Embarrassingly simple question. gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? Cheers, Alan Patterson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" gnome-terminal

Embarrassingly simple question.
gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though
I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do.

Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ?

Cheers,
        Alan Patterson

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B1E1.66990A3C-- From Catherine.Roult@idris.fr Wed Mar 21 05:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lumiere.idris.fr (lumiere.idris.fr [130.84.8.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32202DB69 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mira.idris.fr (root@mira.idris.fr [130.84.12.100]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA494101 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from idris.fr (linder@loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mira.idris.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA72466 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:34:17 +0100 From: Catherine Roult X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Workspaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I use Gnome (I try...) with There are many things that I can't do. So, questions : I would like to use different workspaces to do specific works. 1) Is there a way to give a name to each workspace and to see this name in the "Desk Guide" in panel ? 2) Is there a way to make that a given application is automatically sent to a corresponding workspace ? If you define an application (named TOTO) with its icon and its attached command, I would like to say to it : "occupy, directly when launched, the workspace named "TOTO'S HOME". 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a click in the window properties such as "send this window to workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace and to see this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? Lot of question ? Isnt'it ? Thanks for responses ! C. Roult From gannam@india.dharma.com Wed Mar 21 06:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E82E0DE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14961; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:53:34 +0530 To: Alan Patterson Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> From: G Annamalai Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:00:24 +0530 In-Reply-To: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Alan Patterson writes: > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. Login shells would be reading the ~/.bash_profile file if it exists. Non-login shells read only ~/.bashrc. HIH. Cheers, anna -- ``A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams.'' - John Barrymore 1943 From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1D2E155 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13744 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13737; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16456; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:24:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08336; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB89035.5E2F2718@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:27:49 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Patterson Cc: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The .profile files are read only once at login time. You are confusing with shell session file that are ex=E9cuted at each shell invocation ( interactive or in script) in .profile, define export ENV=3D$HOME/.kshrc and put in it what you want to execute at each invocation. under ksh, you can use the '-p' as in #!/bin/ksh -p if you don't want to read the $ENV file. read the manual for exact names JRC PS: for compatibility do ln -s .profile .bash_profile ln -s .kshrc .bashrc or the inverse ... -:) > Alan Patterson wrote: > = > Embarrassingly simple question. > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > = > Should I be placing my profile info elsewhere ? > = > Cheers, > Alan Patterson -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 06:29:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042942BC3E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LBWwf06830 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:32:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux Message-ID: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <004b01bf6704$507f18a0$491daace@tootiet> <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <388D663B.CD636FE8@ntsys.fr>; from fbellaiche@ntsys.fr on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: > Tommy_T wrote: > > > > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the > > Slackware > > version of Linux. Is it available? > > Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. > I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's > web site. > Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version > of Gnome. Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the latest stuff. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html Looking at that page, there's even tgz's too. Telsa From Jean-Raymond.Chauviere@cetelem.fr Wed Mar 21 06:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xenon.neuges.net (xenon.neuges.net [194.250.170.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D912E25B for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13966 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.xenon by somewhere.xenon (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.1.3) with ESMTP id MAA13958; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from somewhere.diderot by somewhere.diderot (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16842; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:31:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cetelem.fr (uzes [172.20.4.19]) by marne.sun.ctlmcof.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09776; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB891B6.3D9B8875@cetelem.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:34:14 +0100 From: "Jean-Raymond.Chauviere" Organization: Cetelem X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catherine Roult Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Workspaces References: <3AB883A8.BFC9E313@idris.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Catherine Roult wrote: > = > 3) I also would like to send a window in an other workspace with a > = > click in the window properties such as "send this window to > = > workspace "BLABLA" (there exist something like that "send window > = > to previous/next workspace" but ist not enough for me right click in title bar 'move to' under wmaker > = > 4) Is there a way to give different colors to each workspace = yes under window maker and to see > = > this color in the "Desk Guid" in panel ? > = I never see that, even with --enable-gnome compiling window maker enlightenment that has it's own panel has this features with zoom effect on opened windows -- = Nur der Kleingeist h=E4lt Ordnung, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos. Seuls les petits esprits aiment l'ordre, le g=E9nie maitr=EEse le chaos. (anonyme) From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:23:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD8F2BEE0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCQZt07151 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:26:35 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Panrl Problem Message-ID: <20010321122635.K5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from anthonyg63@hotmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:59:17AM -0000 or thereabouts, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. ... > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? It may be sawfish :) >From http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/problems.html Q: The menu panel (the narrow one at the top) is sitting in the middle of the screen when I start GNOME. A: This may be a sawfish-specific problem. If you are using sawfish, then open the control center and find the options for sawfish. Under Placement you will find a checkbox for Ignore program-specified window placements.. This needs to be unchecked. If this doesn't work, take the longer route provided by Robert Soros on gnome-list: " I ended up logging out and switching to console to edit my ~/sawfish/window-history file... which contained the line " ("panel (type . unframed) (position 0 . 23)) " Editing the file (with 0, 0 coordinates) during the gnome session then logging out was useless as it would just resave the file as upon exiting.. " Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:29:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EF2E315 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCXAB07232 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:10 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Session Manager Capplet Message-ID: <20010321123310.L5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103131242.f2DCgO003181@iota.finkployd.com>; from cduck_balsa@flashmail.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:20PM -0800 or thereabouts, cduck wrote: > where is this thing!? i've just done a fresh compilation/install of the > ftp-posted sources, and i cannot find the session manager capplet. Most capplets are provided by the control-center package, which needs to be compiled before gnome-core. I don't see a session manager capplet, but I have a session-properties-capplet from that package. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:41:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7292CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCiuq07350 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:55 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome 1.4 release schedule Message-ID: <20010321124455.N5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <078d64936201231MAILSRV3@mail.xnet.ro>; from leonchiver@xnet.ro on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 10:36:16PM +0200 or thereabouts, Leon Chiver wrote: > Hi guys, > > does anyone when the final gnome will be released. Is there a schedule > or will it be released when it's 'clean and bugfree' ? There is a gnome-1.4-list mailing list listed at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list The latest info I see on dates in the archive is this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-1.4-list/2001-March/msg00010.html Since that's the latest, that's your best guide. The answer to your question seems to be "both" :) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB122CF18 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCkfj07403 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:46:41 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: installing ximian gnome on debian unstable Message-ID: <20010321124641.O5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jh0u@hotmail.com on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 02:14:47PM -0800 or thereabouts, ordinary user wrote: > hi, > > I cannot seem to install ximian gnome on debian unstable. installation bogs > out and tells me that it cannot continue because I have requested an > impossible situation?... This might be better directed to the ximian-hosted lists, but the answer as of a week ago was "potato and woody, fine. sid, um". It may have changed, of course. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D032BEA6 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LCtYh07410 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:34 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: Gnome-List Subject: Re: Want to remove Gnome and start again ( off suse 7.1 ) Message-ID: <20010321125534.P5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome-List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from richard@diddyland.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:20:20PM -0000 or thereabouts, dids wrote: > It seems ( unless Im wrong ) that most gnome progs expect gnome to be in > /usr/local instead of /opt/gnome No. It's down to prefixes. Tarballs default to a prefix of /usr/local/ as is proper for stuff locally compiled on a system. Package managers for different distros (and flavours of UNIX) default to different places. (SuSE goes for /opt.) This is explained in http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html (scattered about over several questions, I admit. Not the greatest organisation in the world in that section, sorry.) > whatever, i would like to remove all the gnome stuff on my machine ie libs > etc and start again by hand. > Can someone give me some pointers about which directories i can remove > Ive already done the rpms etc If it was all installed via rpms, then rpm -e should do the trick. If you have been adding stuff from tarballs, then I hope you kept the source trees. If so, cd into the relevant directories, and hope someone wrote the magic for "make uninstall" to work (that removes what make install created). > Id also like to know which environment vars Suse is setting up for me by > default and how to stop it. eg GNOME_DIR Whilst running GNOME, try "printenv" to get a list of all your environment variables. "printenv | more" or "printenv | less" is probably useful here, as it can be a long list. I don't know enough about SuSE to know, but I would take a good look at the 'startx' shell script, wherever it is on your system, and particularly the section that deals with "startx gnome". It can take a fair bit of following through scripts to find which is doing or calling what. But at least with shell scripts you can just read through them. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 07:56:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14652E33F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LD0Dg07441 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:13 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs Message-ID: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com>; from roberto@susq.com on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode I don't know whether "Sun ultrasparc 5" means "Solaris 2.6", because I am not a Sun/Solaris user myself. But if it does mean that, then see http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html and the question about "gnome-libs won't compile on Solaris 2.6. It fails with a complaint about Berkeley DB lacking DB 1.85 compatibility". If it doesn't mean that, then see Paul Barnfeather's wonderful wonderful "Building GNOME on Solaris" pages at ttp://www.clanger9.demon.co.uk/computer/gnome/ I have also seem some discussion about db versions on gnome-devel-list, but it was too hard for me. It will be in the archives for this month's stuff though if you want to look. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:07:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082F2E346 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDAPi07469 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:10:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: control-center default urls Message-ID: <20010321131025.S5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210112.UAA21014@mail5.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:08:51PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ever since control-center-1.2.4 nautilus has been the default url > handler for ghelp, info, and man types. Before that version > gnome-help-browser was the default. Does this mean that the > gnome-help-browser is going away in favor of nautilus? For 1.4 the plan is yes, nautilus and its swanky "render html from the docbook on the fly" trick will be the default for new users clicking on ghelp, man, and info. gnome-help-browser will still be provided though. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 21 08:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077542C992 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LDBwf07474 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 Message-ID: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net>; from louisg00@bellsouth.net on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > Ok guys last question, > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > gnome-users-guide? Yes. It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. /me adds another to the todo list. Telsa From snickell@stanford.edu Fri Mar 16 06:41:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F82D48D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GBehY00753; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB1FBC0.552D1827@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:40:48 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Louis Garcia Cc: nautilus-list@lists.eazel.com, gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] gnome-1.4 and nautilus References: <200103160744.CAA28030@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Louis Garcia wrote: > > I have been seeing a funny thing when I log onto my linux box when > using nautilus. After logging on the background is set and the panel > starts. When nautilus starts the background disapperes for a second > and then nautilus redraws the background and places the icons on the > desktop. It doesn't seem to be anything wrong, it just doesn't look > right. > > Anyone have this? This is standard behavior. Non-optimal, looks trashy, but probably not harmful either... cheers, -Seth From egger@suse.de Thu Mar 15 17:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [213.95.15.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B5B2BD08; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B381E349; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:34:52 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:35:46 +0100 (CET) From: egger@suse.de Reply-To: egger@suse.de Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 To: jens@gnome.org Cc: Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org, gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010315232731.DD2424826@Nicole.muc.suse.de> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar, Jens Finke wrote: >> If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome >> booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the > last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised > me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough > space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is > interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to > join us. I might find some time to demonstrate GIMP for a day if you'd like me to. -- Servus, Daniel From jomamanup@yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 20:02:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web11115.mail.yahoo.com (web11115.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.30]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847BF2BB7E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.213.164.80] by web11115.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Sandrowicz Subject: GAL To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any suggestions? Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 15 08:13:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (mailsrv2.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.87.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7FF2BD9F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by mailsrvd.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de (8.11.1/8.11.3/20.02.2001) with ESMTP id f2FDCrc11272; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:12:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:13:12 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Simon Budig Cc: Gimp-developer list , , , Subject: Re: Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the > Linuxtag 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk > about scripting and plugin-programming, but the work for the > booth is too much for me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be > very happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to > do this. I'd be happy to help this person and would attend > at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome > booth and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. Yes, there will be a Gnome booth with nearly the same crew than the last year (about 5 people). Joey (the LinuxTag organisator) promised me to give us a larger booth than last year, so we will have enough space for the Gimp people. And of course we invite anyone who is interested in supporting/promoting Gnome/Gimp in Germany/Europe to join us. Regards, Jens From sie-mich-auch@gmx.de Fri Mar 16 08:47:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE82BB3D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14duZp-000078-06; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:33 +0100 Received: from p3EE1D306.dip.t-dialin.net (320027360141-0001@[62.225.211.6]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14duZe-0g6PHEC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:47:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Panrl Problem From: Marcel Schuster To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:51:00 +0100 Message-Id: <984750661.699.0.camel@Homer.Simpson.unknown.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: 320027360141-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 10:59:17 +0000, Anthony Gardner wrote: > For some reason, when I start x-windows, my panel is smack bang across the > middle of my screen. I have to move it to the bottom. > > The panel is an edge panel and I've resaved it ensuring the bottom panel > option is picked. > > When I exit X-windows, I evem save current settings but it still appears in > the middle after restarting X. > > Any ideas? > > At present, to overcome this, I 've made the panel a floating panel and > although I get a shadow of th epanel in the middle when I start X, it does > finally rest at the bottom of the desktop. > > Is all of this weird ......... or is it me? > > TIA > > -Ants. Maybe it's sawfish?? If sawfish is your window manager, go to control center -> sawfish window manager -> placement and check that the option "ignore program-specified window placements" is turned off. If sawfish's not your wm, I have no clue Best regards Marcel From tomr@mothra.aceldama.com Fri Mar 16 13:16:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mothra.aceldama.com (mothra.aceldama.com [204.225.122.5]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971C42CDBF; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tomr@localhost) by mothra.aceldama.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03466; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:28 -0500 From: Tom Rathborne To: Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Reply-To: tomr@aceldama.com Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>; from Simon.Budig@unix-ag.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100 X-URL: http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Simon; On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:24:19PM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: > Unfortunately I am not able to organize a Gimp booth at the Linuxtag > 2001 (see www.linuxtag.de). I will present a talk about scripting > and plugin-programming, but the work for the booth is too much for > me this year. > > Since Linuxtag is the biggest Linux-Event in Europe I'd be very > happy, if we could find somebody, who is willing to do this. I'd be > happy to help this person and would attend at the booth. > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't think I can help with the planning much but I'm trying to come to LinuxTag again because I had so much fun last year. I would be happy to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Cheers, Tom -- -- Tom Rathborne tomr@aceldama.com http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ -- "Don't clap too loudly -- it's a very old world." -- The Player, -- in Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" From dmitry@taurussoft.org Fri Mar 16 22:45:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ajax1.sovam.com (ajax1.sovam.com [194.67.1.172]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7002BAE9 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts16-a367.dial.sovam.com ([195.239.4.113]:1044 "HELO taurussoft.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "tttt@online.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by ajax1.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:45:33 +0300 Received: (qmail 784 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: from flame-in-night.taurussoft.org (192.168.107.1) by kitezh.taurussoft.org with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 21:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5351 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Mar 2001 21:12:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:05 +0300 From: "Dmitry G . Mastrukov" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Evolution & movemail Message-ID: <20010317001205.A5344@flame-in-night.taurussoft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 14 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi All! Is Evolution able to deal with existing mboxes without moving mail? First, I have procmail and it delivers my mail to some mboxes (gnome-list for example). Second, I simply want to use not only Evo but balsa, pine or mutt with my inbox. With movemail Evo is pretty useless for me :( IMHO movemail is wrong way. UNIX way is the ability to do work by some differnt ways. Dmitry PS. What is about IMAP and movemail. I fear to let Evolution to process my IMAP folder. From louisg00@bellsouth.net Fri Mar 16 17:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (mail2.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E427F2CABC for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-196-20.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.196.20]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA06437 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Default browser From: Louis Garcia To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/plain How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open. Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking an email I want evolution to open.

Thank --=-iK2a2934Wv5iDsAroYj1-- From root@plan9.de Fri Mar 16 17:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout.plan9.de (islay.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.162.92]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840CB2D3A0; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cerebro ([10.0.0.1] helo=mail.plan9.de ident=schmorp) by mailout.plan9.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BP-0004jO-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:55 +0100 Received: from root by mail.plan9.de with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14e3BM-00065z-00; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:58:52 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp at the Linuxtag 2001 Message-ID: <20010316235852.D6431@cerebro.laendle> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rathborne , Gimp-developer list , gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu, gnome-list@gnome.org, martin@gnome.org References: <20010314182419.A111108@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010316131628.B3383@aceldama.com>; from tomr@aceldama.com on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux version 2.2.18RAID (root@cerebro) (gcc version 2.95.2.1 19991024 (release)) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:16:28PM -0500, Tom Rathborne wrote: > > If this is not possible I'd like to ask, if there is a Gnome booth > > and if they would mind sharing a booth with us. > > I'm pretty busy these days, and of course I am in Canada, so I don't I'll also come for sure and help where I can and I would even try to organize that if necessary, but I am a total idiot at these kind of things, so it's best NOT to think about letting me do that.... > to hang out with the GIMP folks and help out at the booth. Pleased to meet you again, Mr. Rathborne. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg@goof.com |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | From conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com Sun Mar 18 01:28:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C28E2BF0B for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2I6X1E12174; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010315142414.F214@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:33:00 -0600 (CST) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Jonathan Gift Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15-Mar-01 Jonathan Gift wrote: > joschi@eds.org wrote: >> Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk >> frontend >> to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking to write >> such a >> simple little utility mostly to further my learning of gtk/gnome >> development. >> If it already exists, any suggestions of other little projects like that >> would >> be appriciated. thanks! > > It's not gtk, but there's a great tool that will tail anything to the > root window, transparent, and any size, any postion. > > root tail gmc can already do this: Select a file, right-click, select View, then choose File/Monitor File in the viewer window. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 18-Mar-01 Time: 00:31:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From cduck@u.washington.edu Mon Mar 19 14:14:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from iota.finkployd.com (c654646-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.62.202]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3482BA85 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from openduck (openduck.finkployd.com [172.16.0.2]) by iota.finkployd.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f2G6tG024199 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:55:16 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:16 -0800 From: chris grierson To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Cant compile gtk-engines - old gtk still on disk. how to remove Message-Id: <20010319111716.63131e58.cduck@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> References: <01031918561000.01603@pooter> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: university of washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion for the larger problem, i am assuming you did 'make uninstall' for the old version assuming that, if either of these had taken place *after* you did a ./configure, remove config.cache and start again. this generally solves a lot of problems. otherwise, try running 'ldconfig -p|grep libgtk' to actually see what version (ldconfig thinks) you have. you can refresh your ldconfig cache by simply running 'ldconfig -f ' (assuming has all your library paths). the default on debian systems is /etc/ld.so.conf, and running 'ldconfig' by itself will use the default file i remember i had this problem before, and at some point i had to manually mangle some symlink names for a lib, but i can't recall if that was the actual step that solved my problem... -chris (sorry if this is too basic to help...) On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:56:10 +0000 dids wrote: > Hi im trying to compile gtk-engines having just compiled gtk+-1.2.9 > > but when i try to i get this message > > 'gtk-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GTK+ (1.2.8) > *** was found! I > > Where can i find the files that are causing the problem and remove them ??? > > thanks > dids > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From bertsch.13@osu.edu Sat Mar 17 00:37:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from core.greenapple.com (unknown [198.144.72.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01EE2D40C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt-006-00180.greenapple.com (IDENT:jonathan@pt-006-00180.greenapple.com [198.144.76.195]) by core.greenapple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27906 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Bertsch X-Sender: jonathan@localhost.localdomain To: gnome-list Subject: session save problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. -- Jonathan Bertsch bertsch.13@osu.edu From mmoyles@immunochem.com Sat Mar 17 12:44:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.auracom.com (mail.auracom.com [216.126.204.211]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C32CDE7 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from idt.burnyeat [165.154.191.88] by mail.auracom.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A2A219670154; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:45:06 -0700 Received: from mike by idt.burnyeat with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14eKtv-000263-00 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:54:03 -0400 To: gnome-list Subject: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Reply_To: mmoyles@immunochem.com From: Michael Moyles Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the Ximian pages - Is it still around? Thanks - mike -- Michael Moyles mmoyles@immunochem.com http:/www.immunochem.com I.D.T. Ltd. 23 Burnyeat St. Tel (902) 895-3594 Truro, NS B2N 4P9 Fax (902) 896-7276 Can. From cduck@washington.edu Mon Mar 19 21:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.52]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21A42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante36.u.washington.edu (cduck@dante36.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.196]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f2K2rfs20998; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (cduck@localhost) by dante36.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id SAA14318; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: "'cduck' Chris Grierson" X-X-Sender: To: Roberto Moral Cc: Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010319174123.57dacb5a.roberto@susq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion sleepycat software maintains berkely db, and apparently versions higher than 2.7.7 break all this 1.85 compat business. see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2000-October/msg00509.html not that i have a valid opinion, but why did they make a __db185_open in major 2? isn't one of the whole points of new majors to clear up incompatible API calls? why not use db_open in libdb.so.1 over some new db185_open in libdb.so.2 ? this is actually a question looking for answer. if someone knows, i'd love to hear -chris icq: 24826966 phone: 206.795.4998 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Roberto Moral wrote: > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to this list. > > I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode > > I've checked the package list for Gnome but I am not able to find the DB library (or the update to it) could someone please point me to the right place to find this library. > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > ============================================================================== > == Roberto Moral Denche == == > == UNIX Systems Administrator == It might look like I'm standing motionless,== > == Susquehanna Partners, GP. == but I'm actively waiting for my problems == > == roberto@susq.com == to go away == > == 1 610 617 2813 == - Scott Adams - == > ============================================================================== > == This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the == > == individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are == > == solely those of theauthor and do not necessarily represent those of == > == Susquehanna Partners GP. If you are not the intended recipient, == > == be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, == > == dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is == > == strictly prohibited. == > ============================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > From jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca Mon Mar 19 22:00:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (flash.lakeheadu.ca [192.75.62.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137D42DD2D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from flash.lakeheadu.ca (IDENT:root@lake1-75.lakeheadu.ca [216.211.1.75]) by flash.lakeheadu.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2K2w0J12579 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:03:05 -0500 From: "John B. Stephens,II" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: gnorpm & rpm's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. however , i am getting error msgs. like: "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of rpm..." when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i spoke of. any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. From zellert@voicenet.com Wed Mar 21 09:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from unix01.voicenet.com (unix01.voicenet.com [209.71.48.250]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9846F2BAB4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 6987); 21 Mar 2001 14:50:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Terrence W. Zellers" X-Sender: zellert@unix01 To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: error compiling gnome-libs In-Reply-To: <20010321130013.Q5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:41:23PM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto Moral wrote: > > Hello and sorry if I am asking something that was asked before I am new to > > this list. I am trying to compile gnome on a SUN Ultrasparc 5, actually > > upgrading from Ximian's code, I get this error when trying to complie the > > gnome-libs 1.2.12 > > > > checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no > > configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility mode Sigh. I just went through this exercise on my laptop. After I checked that sleepycat was up to date with the compatability option I still got that. I then buggered the configure script to dummy out the db185 tests. Then you have to check the Makefiles and make sure that -ldb is in all the library lists. Once the lib is installed, to get the rest of gnome to compile (link actually) you have to edit gnome-config (the executable, wherever it gets put, as I configure with --prefix=/usr it was in /usr/bin) you go to the libs section and add -ldb -- I basically inserted it after wherever I found an "-ldl". Another heads up is that you will need a recent "popt" package (not a gnome package) to get GConf to compile. I'm tempted to put up a page explaining these steps but in reality that pretty much covers the low-lights. -- TWZ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Copyright 2001 by Terrence W. Zellers. All rights explicitly reserved. | | email: terrence.w.zellers@pobox.com www.voicenet.com/~zellert/pub.key | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A means of adding pith or humor to email: patent pending | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snickell@stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 08:53:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp2.Stanford.EDU (smtp2.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.116]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78F72BEE6; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stanford.edu (null.Stanford.EDU [128.12.54.52]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2LDrVv15402; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AB8B25D.A5FD3AEB@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:53:33 -0800 From: Seth Nickell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Also: bonobo - component model oaf - activation framework medusa - indexed search framework & daemon Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) > - "Fifth Toe" applications package > - reorganisation of gnome-utils > - ... [gosh, I need help] > > Reply to the list or reply to my personal address, but reply soon! > > Thanks a lot. > > mawa > -- > schmooz, n.: > Darkish substance made of fat, dirt and hair. > schmooz collector, n.: > Little foot a computer mouse glides upon. Collects -->schmooz. > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From tim@maths.tcd.ie Mon Mar 19 23:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8E72DFC1 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lanczos.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:00:11 +0000 From: Timothy Murphy To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . I'm running the GNOME that came with RedHat-7.0 . The problems seem to arise equally with Enlightenment and Sawfish. Any suggestions or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From glynn.foster@ireland.sun.com Wed Mar 21 05:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D186E2DB69; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 05:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM ([129.156.220.7]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12194; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ireland.Sun.COM (plat [129.156.238.87]) by ireserver.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA05273; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <3AB884F3.1ECC64C4@ireland.Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:39:47 +0000 From: Glynn Foster Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) Of course there is the new multi-session hack for gsm ;) See ya, Glynn ;) From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 10:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.245]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCD2D3B0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail002.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LFeQW07421; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:30 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681713C4C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:40:01 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4B3010B6; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:39:16 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: Michael Moyles Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Is the galeon deb package still available? Message-ID: <20010322023916.A464@aphid.net> References: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010317135403.A8054@burnyeat>; from mmoyles@immunochem.com on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 01:54:03PM -0400 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I might be just missing it, but I can't find the galeon web-browser on the > Ximian pages - Is it still around? Ximian has little to do with Galeon... Have a look at: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/ - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. From veillard@redhat.com Wed Mar 21 10:44:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (host154.207-175-42.redhat.com [207.175.42.154]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B032C7FE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12278; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:44:06 -0500 From: Daniel Veillard To: "John B. Stephens,II" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. a hint at least: issue #1 of rpmfind FAQ http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/faq.html Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network http://redhat.com/products/network/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Wed Mar 21 11:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from barnabe.net (barnabe.net [216.121.96.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719152CDF9 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.endymion.com (www.chalonsursaone.com [216.121.146.240]) by barnabe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28822; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:29:47 -0800 Message-Id: <200103211629.IAA28822@barnabe.net> To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: patrick_d@chalonsursaone.com Subject: Re: GAL Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:29:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? AFAIK, libxml 2.x and 1.x was in conflict, but since libxml 2.x is named libxml2, it's OK. You should first install libxml 1.8.? (to replace old libxml 2) and then libxml2 ; you may have to get new releases of apps using libxml2, but you'll be OK for future. p_ From steve@kazbek.ispras.ru Wed Mar 21 11:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from stern.sovam.com (stern.sovam.com [194.67.2.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6032D41A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (gate.ispras.ru [194.67.37.200]) by stern.sovam.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12131 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:09:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2LG6Rb09835 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:06:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid TAA26876; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host kazbek claimed to be kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (pegas [194.186.94.143]) by kazbek.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13338 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07853; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:05:18 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: pegas.kazbek.ispras.ru: steve set sender to steve@kazbek.ispras.ru using -f To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: where is 'db2html' From: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? Thanks. -- Alexander Koptelov Institute for System Programming, Russian Academy of Sciences e-mail: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru icq: 36208499 From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499D2BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LG9Ir26605; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:09:18 GMT Subject: Re: Default browser From: Mike Newman To: Louis Garcia Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> References: <200103162211.RAA06437@mail2.mia.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:09:17 +0000 Message-Id: <985190957.18855.1.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 16 Mar 2001 17:13:36 -0500, Louis Garcia wrote: > How do I make galeon my default browser instead of mozilla?? When I > click on a URL I want galeon to open up. Also when using galeon clicking > an email I want evolution to open. > > Thank In the control centre under URL Handlers, you can set the program which GNOME uses to launch URLs beginning with the http:/ method. I think you'd need to set it as /path/to/galeon %s Unfortunately, Evolution can't be used in this way yet, mainly because the compose window depends heavily on an Evolution shell being running. People are working on this however. Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 11:14:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17222BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2LFxi723425; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:59:44 GMT Subject: Re: GAL From: Mike Newman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010320 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 15:59:43 +0000 Message-Id: <985190384.18857.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. I need to > install GnomeAppLib so that I can compile GtkHTML, so > that I can use it in Balsa. Is there any way that I > can do that without downgrading my XML libraries? Any > suggestions? I understand that recent versions of libxml2 can happily co-exist with 1.8.11 (the most recent 1.x, and the one likely needed by gal). Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:28:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294862BB23 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12544; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:41:41 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012541; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:41:16 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06444; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:37 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006440; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:25:22 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29413 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:20 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03052; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:15 +0300 (MSK) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello here While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. -- Gregory From jacob@ximian.com Wed Mar 21 11:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778F2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14flTA-0002Nh-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Subject: Re: GAL From: jacob berkman To: Brandon Sandrowicz Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010316010233.12195.qmail@web11115.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 11:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985192100.8079.1.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 15 Mar 2001 17:02:33 -0800, Brandon Sandrowicz wrote: > I can't get GAL to compile because it doesn't support > the newest 2.x.x gnome xml libraries. you shouldn't be using libxml 2.x in gnome applications yet. jacob -- C-x i .signature From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 21 11:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858E2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-214.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.214]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21126; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:37 +0100 Message-Id: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? From: Bart Kuik To: Gregory "A." Shimansky Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:40:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300, Gregory A. Shimansky wrote: > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of these locations : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources But didn't the configure-script complain about that? Bart From kknerrsr@ptdprolog.net Wed Mar 21 11:56:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BAFE2BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31152 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: from mail2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.66]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 745 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from du11024.haz.ptd.net (HELO calainar.pennswald.pri) ([204.186.11.24]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2001 16:55:57 -0000 Received: from calainar.pennswald.pri (barthel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calainar.pennswald.pri (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2LGrS307156 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux To: gnome-list In-Reply-To: <20010321113258.J5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:56:47PM +0100 or thereabouts, Frederic Bellaiche wrote: >> Tommy_T wrote: >> > >> > I'm interested in loading GNOME, but I don't see any listing for the >> > Slackware >> > version of Linux. Is it available? >> >> Slackware 7.0 (glibc based) comes with October Gnome. >> I guess you can get tarballs from Slackware's >> web site. >> Slackware 4.0 (libc5 based) comes with an earlier version >> of Gnome. > > Slackware 7.1 has Gnome 1.2 on it. > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my archived sources). Here's my compile sequence: Installed prerequisite libraries: (--prefix=/usr) audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 glib-1.2.10 gtk+-1.2.9 imlib-1.9.9 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gtk-engines-0.12 ORBit-0.5.7 popt-1.6-4 (from RedHat RPM, prerequisite for OAF etc.) Installed GNOME base libraries: (--prefix=/usr) gnomelibs-1.2.13 libgtop-1.0.12 libxml-1.8.11 libghttp-1.0.9 glibwww-0.2 (pre-requisite for gtkhtml) Installed Bonobo & its prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) gal-0.5 libunicode-0.4.gnome oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 gnome-vfs-1.0 gnome-print-0.27 bonobo-0.37 Installed gnome-db (prerequisite for libglade) (--prefix=/usr) libdgda-0.2.3 gnome-db-0.2.3 (--disable-bonobotest) [bonobo test failed, but gnome-db is looking for >=0.29 and there have been multiple API changes since 0.29] Installed GNOME base libraries w/ Bonobo dependencies: (--prefix=/usr) libglade-0.16 gtkhtml-0.8.3 Installed GNOME core: (--prefix=/usr) control-center-1.4.0 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 Installed nautilus prerequisites: (--prefix=/usr) [openssl-0.9.6 (ammonite prerequisite) already installed] ammonite-1.0.0 medusa-0.5.0 mozilla-0.8 (binary built on Slackware) scrollkeeper-0.1.4 (--localstatedir=/var) At this point, I postponed Nautilus and worked on some other items. Installed pan-0.9.5 (--prefix=/usr) [now that gnome core is complete] FWIW, I generally used the command: nice ./configure --prefix=/usr && nice make && sudo ~/s/checkinstall My copy of checkinstall is heavily modified from the version generally available, but basically it does a 'make install', copying some standard doc files ala Patrick's practice, and creates a Slackware package (mostly so that I can scan for files in /var/adm/packages). In short, it's *very* doable. There are a few packages that can safely be compiled 'side by side', but most should be done singly in the order listed. HTH > If you have a pretty default install, you can even trick the ximian > installer into thinking it's running on RH and installing all the > latest stuff. Now *THERE'S* a scary thought! ;-) Barthel -- ld_barthel@yahoo.com | http://geocities.com/Area51/Shire/4063 Organization: The Pennswald Group -- Linux powered!! A computer does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do. From gregory@lab.sun.mcst.ru Wed Mar 21 11:58:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ipmce.su (purgator.ipmce.su [192.124.182.198]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 311802BA9A for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by ipmce.su (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA12665; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:11:19 +0300 Received: from tretyak-le1.sun.mcst.ru(192.124.182.194) by purgator via smap (V2.1) id xma012662; Wed, 21 Mar 01 20:11:06 +0300 Received: by tretyak.sun.mcst.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06818; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:55:27 +0300 Received: from terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru(176.16.4.107) by tretyak via smap (V2.1) id xma006815; Wed, 21 Mar 01 19:54:59 +0300 Received: from fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (fundin [176.16.4.131]) by terra.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01120; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from gregory@localhost) by fundin.lab.sun.mcst.ru (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA03503; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:54:54 +0300 (MSK) To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? References: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> X-Face: /Y:M1JRbU^xPWkq;3V_3JZR}(xSijO(W:scEd~{/qR#'2CuBh\l%i6%~3Vo~jrKuXw'ltG< 7V[=W13W From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:54:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200103211644.RAA21126@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >>>>> "BK" == Bart Kuik writes: BK> GConf-0.50.tar.gz and oaf-0.6.5.tar.gz, both can be found in one of BK> these locations : BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/latest/sources BK> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/latest/sources Thank you, I found both in unstable directory. Gnome ftp.gnome.org doesn't let me in so I used ftp.yggdrasil.com mirror. I just thought that since I got gnome-vfs from stable directory it shouldn't rely on anything I can't get from a stable directory... Maybe I am wrong. BK> But didn't the configure-script complain about that? It complained about gconf, said nothing about oaf. The gconf error wasn't critical too so configure script didn't stop and I assumed that I can build gnome-vfs without gconf and oaf. It looked like this: .... checking for gconf-config... no checking for GCONF - version >= 0.9... no *** The gconf-config script installed by GCONF could not be found *** If GCONF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GCONF_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to gconf-config. checking for t_accept in -lnsl... yes checking for socket in -lsocket... yes ... -- Gregory From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Wed Mar 21 12:16:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464602BABF for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86026; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> To: steve@kazbek.ispras.ru (Alexander Koptelov) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' In-reply-to: Your message of "21 Mar 2001 19:05:16 +0300." Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From robin.cull@pace.co.uk Wed Mar 21 12:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from exchange1.cam.pace.co.uk (host-131-80.pace.co.uk [136.170.131.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD742BEE4 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchange1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:17 -0000 Message-ID: <1402C4C025C4D311B50D00508B8B74E27E446B@exchange1> From: Robin Cull To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Missing autoconf macros (or something) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:42:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to get my configure.in and makefile.am files for a package to compile under GNOME right using the example in the Havoc Pennington GTK+/GNOME Application Development book. When I run my autoconf.sh I get moaned at by automake and configure. I get these messages: Automake: Makefile.am : variable GNOMEUI_LIBS not defined Makefile.am : variable GNOME_LIBDIR not defined configure: ./configure: GNOME_INIT: command not found ./configure: GNOME_COMPILE_WARNINGS: command not found When I run make I (obviously) get missing headers and linkage problems. I am using a fresh Mandrake 7.2 installation. I have got the gnome-*-devel, gtk+-*-devel and glib-*-devel packages installed. I think I'm just missing the macros but I'm not sure. Could anyone help me out? If I have hit the wrong list, please forgive me and point me in the right place. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- Robin "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to seek permission." - Rear Admiral Dr. Grace Hopper From kabalak@gmx.net Wed Mar 21 13:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1DA2BEF2 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26656 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from a2e5d.pppool.de (HELO kabalak-debian) (213.6.46.93) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from root by kabalak-debian with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fnjM-0001OB-00 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:12 +0100 From: Fatih Demir To: GNOME Listesi Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010321195312.A5340@gmx.net> References: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200103211710.MAA86026@ww2.tqstats.com>; from jgotts@linuxsavvy.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:10:56PM -0500, jgotts@linuxsavvy.com wrote: > In message , Alexander Koptelov writes: > > >Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? > > % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html > stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 Or in debian'sh: apt-get install cygnus-stylesheets All deps are included .-) -- kabalak / kabalak@kabalak.net / Fatih Demir `-GNOME / ICQ:64241161 / GSM: +491749787080 `-Editor / vim `-Filemanager / VFU From fbellaiche@ntsys.fr Wed Mar 21 14:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from webshield.local.ntsys.fr (ntsys.ntsys.fr [213.56.79.25]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F472BCB5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by webshield.local.ntsys.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id UAA12256 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:10:38 +0100 Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.0.6), claiming to be "ntsys.fr" via SMTP by webshield, id smtpdAZyZ4I; Wed Mar 21 20:10:31 2001 Message-ID: <3AB8F8B0.94428D82@ntsys.fr> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:53:36 +0100 From: Frederic Bellaiche Organization: NTSys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: gnome-list Subject: Re: Fw: gnome for slackware Linux References: <200103211653.f2LGrS307156@calainar.pennswald.pri> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." wrote: > > > > Slackware users show up regularly on here and IRC, and report varying > > degrees of success with installing extremely up to date versions. It > > seems to vary with how far they have taken the "put things precisely > > where you want" thing and whether they have such things as docbook > > tools, the Gnome variants of those, and other things installed first. > >FWIW, I reinstalled all of GNOME up to gmc/Nautilus this weekend by >compiling sources. (I'm running a Slack 7.1 based system.) To keep >things simple, I put everything in /usr, since that's where Patrick puts >the GNOME packages. All the newer tarballs were freshly FTP'd Saturday >morning (a few hadn't changed, but were recompiled anyway from my >archived sources). > [snips] I've just compiled Gnome 1.4.0rc1 from sources on a Slackware 7.0 based box. As far as I've tested, it works perfectly, including Nautilus. And evolution 0.9 too, BTW. Just make sure to use "--prefix=/usr" along with all "./configure". It should work on Slack 7.1 . Ximian's Red Carpet is another story. Getting it to run on a Slackware system won't be a piece of cake... It is also true that slackware users generaly get their stuff from sources (like I do, I must say) rather than packages (like people do on Debian for example). And so getting Red Carpet to run on Slackware distros is probably not a high priority. Fred. From mawarkus@t-online.de Wed Mar 21 15:40:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6122BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14fpOh-00058Z-00; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:59 +0100 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.213.160]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14fpOD-0DNcYKC; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:39:29 +0100 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28155 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:14:33 +0100 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Vertigo? Message-ID: <20010321211433.A28152@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. There is, however, no 'vertigo' CVS module. Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of Vertigo code and/or fill me in on details on what exactly this will change? I suppose it'll do everything the old panel does; it will replace the special applet interface with a generalised Bonobo one (controls?), however, and use an adapter control for backward compatibility. What else is there to be said? Thanks, ma"papers need a-writin'"wa -- So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine? I don't think so. -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy From jacob@trna.ximian.com Wed Mar 21 15:56:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA7F2BA98 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ximian.com (ralph.ximian.com [141.154.95.105]) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09540; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:55:54 -0500 From: jacob berkman Message-Id: <200103212055.PAA09540@trna.ximian.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:56 -0000 To: "Matthias Warkus" , Subject: RE: Vertigo? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_unique-boundary-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ------=_unique-boundary-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ----Original Message----- >From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) >in a couple of articles on GNOME 2.0, I found mentions of Vertigo, the >next-generation panel. There's a codename already, so I suppose >there's some code, too, or at least a rough plan. No, it is pretty much just a code name so far. jacob ------=_unique-boundary-1-- From sean.middleditch@iname.com Wed Mar 21 17:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3172BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMGQa28155; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103212216.f2LMGQa28155@demai05.mw.mediaone.net> Subject: Red-Carpet + MDK 7.2: Thanks! From: Sean Middleditch To: beta@ximian.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.00 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 17:18:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hey, I just saw the new Mandrake 7.2 channel on Red-Carpet! Thanks! This is really cool now, I can finally get rid of MandrakeUpdate, and do all my updating from a central program! Hehe! New software and paint fumes mix really well! Not to sound greedy (and not imply that I'm *not*), but when will Evolution Snapshots and Gnome Beta be available? I'm finding myself messing with these a lot. ^,^ Thanks again! -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A9A82BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa09194; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14449 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:13:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Programer's list? References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so many questions as such on this list. Thanks, DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From topper@virginia.edu Wed Mar 21 17:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248D62DE7E for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from neon.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa11732; 21 Mar 2001 17:16 EST Received: from virginia.edu (pawn.music.Virginia.EDU [128.143.140.146]) by neon.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15430 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB912B7.9D8B16B6@virginia.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:44:39 -0500 From: "David J. Topper" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Mouse grab/ungrab problem References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi folks, This happens even in the gnome-canvas test example. If I double click rapidly on a widget, the grab/ungrab sequence seems to go awry. I mean, the mouse cursor does not change back to regular pointer, it remains as a crosshair. Similarly, the application never releases focus of itself. Help? DT -- Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p From jdub@aphid.net Wed Mar 21 17:36:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.232]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE6B2DE93 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kylie.home (sdcax47-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.201.114]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2LMPPo07647; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:25 +1100 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [10.0.0.64]) by kylie.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABE33C4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2BA6214C; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:25:26 +1100 From: Jeff Waugh To: "David J. Topper" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Programer's list? Message-ID: <20010322092526.F464@aphid.net> References: <20010321170509.949DE2C9BA@mail.gnome.org> <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AB91298.B01E15F7@virginia.edu>; from topper@virginia.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:44:08PM -0500 X-message-flag: Don't you wish you were using Free Software? http://fsf.org/ X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.2-ac20 i686 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Is there another GNOME list that deals more directly with programming > issues? I mean, programming with the GNOME GUI API. I haven't seen so > many questions as such on this list. gnome-devel-list... Click the mailing lists link on the front page of gnome.org. :) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From olau@hardworking.dk Wed Mar 21 17:46:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fetest.worldonline.dk (fetest.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC972CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19146 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: from 61.ppp1-4.hob.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.85.189) by fetest.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:02 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2LLvQF01520; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:57:26 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <3AB80C39.F07AE6B8@biology.usu.edu> From: Ole Laursen Date: 21 Mar 2001 22:57:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: "James W. Haefner"'s message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:04:41 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? I think this calls for personal opinions, so here you have mine: Emacs. It isn't really Gnome-enabled, though someone (Martin Baulig, I think) was working on it last year - it was a very exciting project, I wonder what happened to it? - but still Emacs is a much better editor than any other integrated thing I've seen. And since you usually spend 95% of the time editing code, it isn't worth sacrificing the editor just because of a more gooey build/debug system. IMHO. If you just want a GUI-enabled debugger, I think DDD is an option, though I've never tried it. > At the risk of heresy: are they better than kdg? Don't know kdg, but it can't be better than Emacs. :-) -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Wed Mar 21 22:49:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B12CE45 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA470775 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Gnome confused about window managers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, everything works. Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not running, even when it is. Thanks Daniel From palic@billgotchy.de Thu Mar 22 03:06:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85F2BAF1 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06v-0006z5-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:21 +0100 Received: from dialer200.kel.de.core.tng.de ([213.178.65.200] helo=localhost) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14g06q-00037F-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:16 +0100 Received: from palic by localhost with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14fzzd-0000N4-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:49 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: 1.4 beta and nautilus Message-ID: <20010322085849.D1117@billgotchy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Internet: http://www.billgotchy.de pgp2-key: http://www.billgotchy.de/bin/m.asc Fingerprint: EE C8 16 82 B6 BE AE 36 24 41 43 8D BE BC 1C FF Key-ID: 01119ED1 OS: Linux Debian Woody Private-Debian-Site: http://www.linux-debian.de From: Jan-Hendrik Palic Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gnome- users... I have a problem wth gnome and nautilus. Ich have an actuell woody, updated last monday. When I want to install nautilus, I got this: gromitt:~# apt-get install nautilus Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: nautilus: Depends: gconf (>=3D 0.50) but it is not installable Depends: libgconf11 (>=3D 0.50) but it is not going to be install= ed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is= to be installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>=3D 0.10.0-1) but 0.9.0-helix8 is to be= installed Depends: libgnome-vfs0 (>=3D 0.6.2) but it is not going to be ins= talled Depends: libmedusa0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libnautilus0 (>=3D 0.8.2) but it is not going to be inst= alled Depends: liboaf0 (>=3D 0.6.4) but 0.6.3-0.ximian.2 is to be insta= lled Depends: oaf (>=3D 0.6.4) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Whats going wrong? It seems, that nautilus depends on gnome-libs, which aren't accessable... How can I fix this...? thnx for your help! Jan --=20 One time, you all will be emulated by linux! ---- Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:"http://www.billgotchy.de" E-Mail: "palic@billgotchy.de" --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBOrmwuIXXtskBEZ7RAQEfUwf+MabAgE8psUbyDToOrbBgnNlQkdeuprVW AV97nlLTjcXSERNgMPzfWtHA3Pks2hHLQ7Jqx54/AaQDWD2FR5r3s0VWP+FSeRVv 5LzvdGBYdDhvwTgBhLM9KbVjr9/aWOUvWtBlOTVZA4U4Ss0/OaOmSGmCD7idfHln 0jRPn6SEzJl2T/5tlhhNVvCe7e40ZRL6fjdLadzrtJ3ib+TpZxg/NajX1XDtnuoZ 5yqnjIvdO9RZ7pdf/5IMlWlfIQzRljuO0XN8JkkF0v11wwMnh9LgbHFnXNCPj1G3 rxhPkp52K+cp4tMZvAsKvpUQixy+F/qyy6EQzhYBDwVYKlw6XEJy5A== =wz+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5-- From dan@eazel.com Thu Mar 22 04:00:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from foodle.localdomain (eazel130.eazel.com [64.0.4.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA422BB4D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by foodle.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2M90xJ28164; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: foodle.localdomain: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Mueth X-Sender: dan@foodle.localdomain To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently beginning to write up the paper for my LinuxTag talk. > Since the topic is "GNOME 1.4", I need to know as much as possible > about what exactly is new in 1.4. Of course I can think up lots of > stuff for myself -- but I'd surely leave out a lot, too, and > furthermore, I want to know what *you* think are the important > changes. This is your chance to let the world know how great GNOME 1.4 > really is :) > > What I can come up with is: > - Nautilus > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) > - More documentation > - Bugfixes ;) > - based on GTK+ 1.2.9, which means more stability etc. > - help browser can be compiled with GtkHTML (or will it go away > entirely and be replaced by Nautilus/hyperbola?) The old help browser will still be usable but is deprecated in 1.4 and will go away some time in the future. The help stuff in Nautilus/hyperbola/gnome-db2html2/scrollkeeper is nothing to brag about right now from a user's perspective, but we have layed the groundwork for displaying DocBook/XML documentation and managing documentation metadata. In upcoming releases of Nautilus and ScrollKeeper we will see more user-visible improvements and new functionality such as indexing, metadata searches, user-configurability, access to remote documentation, conversion of document formats by the help browser, etc. Plus, by using ScrollKeeper and the OMF, we are building on a metadata handling system which appears to have the support of the LDP, KDE, and others which will give us compatibility with documents written by other projects in the future. Dan From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 04:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE022DEBA for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-200.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.200]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00078; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:08:15 +0100 Message-Id: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers From: Bart Kuik To: Daniel Russel Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 10:04:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > everything works. > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > running, even when it is. > Thanks > Daniel Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Bart From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:42:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109DC2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nwv03195; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:32 -0800 From: George To: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598522BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAOP414202 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:24:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnometail/gtktail? Message-ID: <20010322102425.D8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <984608043.3aafed2bdddfe@zen.eds.org>; from joschi@eds.org on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0800 or thereabouts, joschi@eds.org wrote: > Hey all, does anyone know if there is an exists a simple gnome or gtk > frontend to the tail command? It would be nice to have and i am looking > to write such a simple little utility mostly to further my learning of > gtk/gnome development. If it already exists, any suggestions of other > little projects like that would be appriciated. thanks! The closest I can remember is logview which is now in gnome-utils. It's written in Objective C, I believe. You need either to be root to run it to monitor certain files, or to make those files world- viewable. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1A2E12D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAVPm14270 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:25 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME Weirdness Message-ID: <20010322103125.E8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010314215445.A14664@sean.aweplay>; from sean.middleditch@iname.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:54:45PM -0500 or thereabouts, Sean Middleditch wrote: > All apps built for GNOME (Balsa, panel, gnome-terminal, gtcd, etc.) take a > very long time to load after I logged in just a while agao (the login took > a while too, what with the panel and capplets loading and stuff). > Non-GNOME apps, like Mozilla and XMMS are just as snappy as ever, though. One situation I've seen all GNOME apps start crawling from startx on is when the networking is broken on my laptop (like, typos in /etc/hosts or the PCMCIA card being in but the ethernet cable being improperly connected). Or not broken, but correct, but GNOME simply not knowing the difference between laptop with card in but no network present and either laptop with no card in or laptop with card in and network up and happy. And the immortal occasion when I used 'pump' (dhcp tool) on someone else's network, came home, forgot about it, and then GNOME whinged because I still had an IP and name server from somewhere in Australia :) I thought it was the network cable and was shaking it madly. > I think the problem is in my upgrades to gconf, oaf, and/or bonobo, which I ...if it started after upgrading those, sounds likely. I dunno whether the above paragraph helps at all, though? Oh well, it might be useful for someone searching in archives. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 05:32:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AE2E12F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MAZuT14301 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:35:56 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bertsch.13@osu.edu on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0500 or thereabouts, Jonathan Bertsch wrote: > Whenever I save the session for gnome, or whenever I logout and log back > in again, some of the things I change, change back, for example changing > the clock in the panel to display 12 hour format instead of 24. I'm going > to guess I just need to change the write permisions to something, but I'm > not sure what it would be. Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to a bug in the applet itself. My particular bęte-noire is gweather: it is obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. I would bugzilla it. The "normal" clock applet is actually part of gnome-core, not gnome-applets. Just to confuse matters :) Telsa From jens@eknif.de Thu Mar 22 05:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (unknown [134.106.84.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28AB2E116 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from doolin.darkride.net (doolin.darkride.net [134.106.120.221]) by kyle.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA04076; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:51:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: George Cc: Subject: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) In-Reply-To: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. > > * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the > same corner > * Property dialogs are now immediate effect > * Scrollable long menus > * Foobar has a tasklist menu > * Panels better follow theme > * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact > default for panels > * Per panel maximize avoidance setting > * Nicer applet dragging > * New menu to add launchers to panel > * Support urls in run dialog > * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your > menus are on nfs or something utterly slow > * Can set up a custom menu icon > * New easter eggs > * Lots of bugfixes > * Others I forgot Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. Jens From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:18:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57932BB4D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBM2I14594 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:02 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:01 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's ("only packages with major number <= 3") Message-ID: <20010322112201.H8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca>; from jbstephe@flash.lakeheadu.ca on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is off-topic for gnome-list recently, but it occurs often enough to answer it. Summary: "get rpm-3.0.6, it works for rpms built with either rpm-3.0.x or rpm-4.0.x". On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500 or thereabouts, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version of > rpm..." > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > spoke of. > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. This error message has to win a prize for "most cryptic", or "most confusing". rpm is telling you it can only deal with packages built by rpm-3.x.x. That 3 is the "major number" in a versioning scheme. Your rpm on RH6.0 will probably be rpm-3.0.something. There were (in order) rpm-3.0, rpm-3.0.1, rpm-3.0.2, rpm-3.0.3 and rpm-3.0.4. And life was happy. Then there was a big big change in rpm, so rpm-4.0.1 came out. rpm-4.0.x understands rpms built with rpm-3.0.x, but builds things slightly differently. So rpm-3.0.4 and lower has no clue what to do with packages built by rpm-4.0.x. Also, it was a bit hard to upgrade like that :) So that was a bit crap :) It got crazier: because XFree86 4.0 came out at the same time, rpms of it build with rpm-4.0 appeared on the net, people were downloading those, trying to install them with rpm-3.0.x, seeing that error message and thinking it applied to X, not rpm :) Mass confusion. So anyway, rpm-3.0.5 came out with the ability to read (and thus install, upgrade and erase) rpms built by rpm-4.0.x. rpm-3.0.6 came out after that and also has that ability. And that's what you need. So your answer is to download rpm-3.0.6 and install it. If gnorpm starts messing about, the command line syntax is: cd /name/of/directory/the/thing's/in su rpm -Uvh rpm-3.0.6-whatever.i386.rpm (control-D to stop being root when it's given you your prompt back) Then you have something that will deal with packages built with "rpm with a major version > 3". Oh, you might also want rpm-devel-3.0.6. I'm not sure. Upgrade them both at the same time (rpm -Uvh rpm-blahblah rpm-devel-blahblah all on one line). The reason I'm not suggesting upgrading straight to rpm-4.0.x is that part of the changes involved changes to the rpm database, and I recall there is some "correct" way to upgrade, and lots of not-so-correct ways. I simply waited for RH 7.0 and let the automatic upgrade do it for me :) As for gnorpm, you want at -least- version 0.95.2, or version 0.96. You'll find in bugzilla that the possible versions are 0.95.2, 0.96, and "prehistoric". That means "everything earlier". Everything earlier had a lot of things which are now fixed, and bug-reports on those will be met with "upgrade to a current version" at best. So get the absolute latest version you can. I'll note that people building rpms should really do it with 3.0.x to ensure the least pain for users. I'm told this is in guidelines somewhere (Mandrake has such, I believe, and RH also) and I -know- that the Linux Development Platform Specification (interim until LSB is done, at http://www.freestandards.org/ldps/1.1/ldps-1.1.html ) insists on this. I realise this is perhaps information overload, but I am in "get it into the archives" mode today. (Hence the addition to the subject line.) Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FA2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBP4614623 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:25:04 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322112504.I8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010320040011.A41250@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie>; from tim@maths.tcd.ie on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 04:00:11AM +0000 or thereabouts, Timothy Murphy wrote: > (1) GNOME does not remember my desktops correctly, > eg windows on one desktop are often transferred -- > on logging out and in again -- to another desktop. Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:27:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42CC2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBUeu14654 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:40 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from steve@kazbek.ispras.ru on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > Hello! > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html I need "db2html" to build some of the help files. What is it and where can I get it? http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN539 I have DocBook correctly installed but when I build a package I get errors as the documentation sections get built. http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/compiling.html#AEN552 Reading it, I realise that had I tried, I could not have been more unclear in answering the first question. Accurate, non-distro-specific, up-to-date rewordings gratefully accepted. Send 'em to me, to gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, or to gnomefaq@gnu.org Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFFD2E08E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBfTN14762 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:41:29 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: New Features list (was Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4) Message-ID: <20010322114129.L8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jens@eknif.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:51:40PM +0100 or thereabouts, Jens Finke wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, George wrote: > > I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm > > sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. long list snipped > Is there a list with nearly _all_ features which are new in Gnome 1.4? > Especially those tiny little thingies like above would be nice. > Maybe every core module maintainer could generate such a list and then we > could put it online somewhere. Just a thought. If anyone is really bored and has time to spare, a really helpful thing they could do is to go through (groan) all the ChangeLogs for packages and hunt for things like this and make a list of user-friendly explanations which can be used in the release announcement. Some ChangeLogs, like Pan's, are brilliant, and explain that "reassigned fooval to no longer return NULL when hitting an overflow exception in the sink plunger" actually means "now pan makes coffee for you -and- does the washing-up". Others, um, aren't :) I'm not sure where you'd send them, though. Perhaps someone would like to volunteer to collate them and feed them to the 1.4 release team in an orderly manner. Telsa From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 06:44:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6CD2C87C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MBmBv14820 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:48:11 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome confused about window managers Message-ID: <20010322114811.M8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <4.3.1.2.20010321194705.04542a90@localhost> <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103220908.KAA00078@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:04:29AM +0000 or thereabouts, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... Actually, I've seen the control-center get window managers wrong on nearly every version of Gnome and every distro I've played with :( It's even in (guess :)) the FAQ, although with one of my crappier answers, which just says basically, "control-center is undergoing a rewrite and with luck the new version will improve on this". I haven't seen Gnome actually start the wrong window manager on a restart when I have changed and saved and quit. I have had no window manager often enough to be underwhelmed by this. The wretched thing also highlights one window manager as running and offers me the chance to run the configuration tool for a different window manager; and so on. I don't think it's distro-specific or Gnome version-specific. I've seen it on all versions of RH from 6.0 up, and on Debian woody (or maybe it was potato), and on several releases of Gnome, and with combinations of window managers ranging from just sawfish and twm to enlightenment, windowmaker, twm, and fvwm2. Telsa From flavio@conectiva.com.br Thu Mar 22 06:53:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from postfix.conectiva.com.br (perninha.conectiva.com.br [200.250.58.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E080A2BDBB for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from burns.conectiva (burns.conectiva [10.0.0.4]) by postfix.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 27C1316E81 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:58 -0300 (EST) Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from barney.distro.conectiva (10.0.17.33) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 11:52:21 -0000 Received: from flavio by barney.distro.conectiva with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14g3e8-0003N9-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:52 -0300 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300 From: Flavio Bruno Leitner To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: db2html Message-ID: <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y6PvmTFIYclVmRST" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.14i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it,=20 can anyone help me? Thanks. --=20 Fl=E1vio Bruno Leitner --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjq555MACgkQiRDznl8DCoBPjQCcDrfdd6tTJXOd36ucrlg4RGdp bM8AoITO0gFSQFZ10PDFL5fxurGCCA0D =n4l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y6PvmTFIYclVmRST-- From cedric@cpac.embrapa.br Thu Mar 22 08:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE332C934 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpac.embrapa.br (cedric@micro208.cpac.embrapa.br [200.202.143.208]) by caliandra.cpac.embrapa.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16827 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:31:47 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA0C9E.8020307@cpac.embrapa.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:30:54 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?= Lamalle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010105 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with png Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I'm trying to make a compiled version of gnome 1.2, but I have problems with the display of png files. Here is a short description (without most of out of subject libs and ldconfig after each comp.) of what I've done : ... Compiled and installed libpng1.0.9 (I've tried with version 1.0.5 and 1.0.8 also) ... Compiled and installed glib-1.2.8 Compiled and installed gtk+-1.2.8 ... Compiled and installed imlib 1.9.8.1 (with gmodulized imlib) ... Compiled and installed gnome-libs 1.2.13 ... Compiled and installed gnome-common 1.2.1 Compiled and installed gdk_pixbuf 0.10.1 Compiled and installed gnome-control-center 1.2.2 Compiled and installed gnome-core-1.2.4 +applets, network, gmc 4.5.52, sawfish, etc... When I try to start a gnome-session (or gnome-terminal from fvwm), I got a message like that : error in loading shared libraries: /usr/local/gnome/lib/libimlib-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct I then try to compile gnome-libs with --disable-imlibtest and gnome-session was launching, I had icons on the desktop, but not on the panel (only text). I'm using debian 2.2, what am I doing wrong ?? Thx in advance for help, Cédric. From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 22 08:58:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BFA2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-146.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.146]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13605 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:58:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). In my opinion that was a way better implementation, especcially for small screens or to call capplets from outside the control-panel, ie setting the background with rightclicking on the desktop. For every small change you'll get the whole panel now in stead of only the wanted capplet.... I didn't find an option (in ./configure or in gnomecc --help) to get the other implementation back. Does anyone know why this is and if it's coming back in a post-1.4 release? Bart From markforawhile@yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 09:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com (web13105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CC02CC8D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:51:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20010322145156.63569.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.188.172.200] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20T.?=" Subject: Gnome Control Center To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, hope this is the right list for this query! I recently updated my Gnome installation using Helix, and now I'm having trouble with the "Control Center" configuration tool. Whichever of the sections on the left I click, the right hand panel stays completely blank. I'm guessing that the Control Center isn't in synch with some other part of Linux any longer. Control Center is Version 1.2.2 under RedHat 6.2. Does anyone know what's going on ? Any help would be appreciated, as this is driving me up the wall ! cheers, Mark. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From gannam@india.dharma.com Thu Mar 22 11:03:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829722CDBE for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gannam@localhost) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20266 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530 (IST) From: Annamalai G To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: icon labels. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Greetings to All. I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? TIA. Cheers, anna From jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com Thu Mar 22 11:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (ww2.tqstats.com [139.171.2.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310B42D9AF for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww2.tqstats.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ww2.tqstats.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37568; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jgotts@ww2.tqstats.com) Message-Id: <200103221614.LAA37568@ww2.tqstats.com> To: Flavio Bruno Leitner Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: jgotts@linuxsavvy.com Subject: Re: db2html In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:52:51 -0300." <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:43 -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion In message <20010322085251.P7476@conectiva.com.br>, Flavio Bruno Leitner writes : >gnome-games use db2html and I don't know where is it, >can anyone help me? Somebody just asked this a day or two ago. % rpm -qf /usr/bin/db2html stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1 John -- John GOTTS http://linuxsavvy.com/staff/jgotts From jacob@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 11:50:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB82BC97 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14g88S-0006IP-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: What happened with the control-center 1.3.1 design? From: jacob berkman To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> References: <200103221358.OAA13605@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 22 Mar 2001 11:40:28 -0500 Message-Id: <985279228.23772.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 14:54:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > I upgraded Control-Center 1.3.1 to Control-Center 1.4.0 on my > slackware-box, but I'm disappointed to see the old 1.2-design again in > stead of the one with one window with big icons and the capplets in > separate windows (more like the configurationpanel in MS Windows). i bumped the one for 1.4 to version 1.4 since some things changed, notably the removal of the session-properties capplet and the inclusion of the gnome-vfs mime types capplet. the old 1.3 tree will become 1.5.0 when it comes out... after getting some much needed work done on it. jacob -- C-x i .signature From drussel@graphics.stanford.edu Thu Mar 22 12:36:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from graphics.Stanford.Edu (graphics.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB2BBD4 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from drussel.stanford.edu (drussel.Stanford.EDU [128.12.132.36]) by graphics.Stanford.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA485113 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010322092900.04500208@localhost> X-Sender: drussel@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:37:16 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: Daniel Russel Subject: Re: Gnome Confused about Window Managers In-Reply-To: <20010322103002.B041D2E140@mail.gnome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion >On 21 Mar 2001 19:50:09 -0800, Daniel Russel wrote: > > I have my default window manager set to be enlightenment, but every time I > > log out and back in it runs sawfish instead. If I go to the gnome > > configuration tool, it reports that Enlightenment is the current window > > manager, and if I switch to Sawfish and then back to Enlightenment, > > everything works. > > Also, when sawfish is my window manager, I can't configure it since the > > sawfish panels in the gnome configuration tool report that sawfish is not > > running, even when it is. > > Thanks > > Daniel > >Hard to answer without knowing what version of Gnome you are running.... > >Bart Good point. I am running 1.2 from Redhat 7. Just to add more detail, other users of my machine can use Sawfish and configure it without any problem. Also, I have tried deleting all the gnome files associated with my account that I could find (~/.gnome ~/.sawfish /tmp/drussel-orbit or something like that), but that made no difference for either problem. I can't just make myself a new account since the names and ids have to match with other local machines. Also, I have no problem with sawfish configuration on other machines which share a home directory with this one and have very similar setups, however the Enlightenment confusion may have started immediately following my first such login to another machine (which did not have enlightenment installed). Thanks. From drifter@outerlounge.de Thu Mar 22 14:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-221.gwdg.de (RAS23-221.gwdg.de [134.76.23.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881F32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2MIrsl09359 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lunalounge.outerlounge.de: nobody set sender to drifter@outerlounge.de using -f To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:53:54 +0100 (MET) From: the drifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5-cvs Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before using it under gnome ? Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) its cemented for me .. > > (2) I cannot cut-and-paste from one window to another, > > though I can always cut-and-paste to Netscape>File>Open page . > > How are you trying to cut and paste? Apologies if this is teaching > grandmothers to suck eggs, but are you familiar with how cut and > paste works in X? I gather it's somewhat different from how Windows > does it. And what are you trying to cut and paste between? In addition to the general X-cut-and-paste-behaviour, there is some nice little applet called clipboard-applet. You can "put something into it" by marking and then pressing button on it; afterwards, if you want to use the last dropped text, it's one left-click and the paste, for previous "drops" it keeps a history accessible by right-clickin'. Nifty little thing that... greets, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www.lunalounge.net From itp@ximian.com Thu Mar 22 14:09:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from flux (unknown [141.154.95.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E5F2CC57 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from itp by flux with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14gARd-0000CT-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:08:25 -0500 To: gnome-list Subject: Re: session save problems. Message-ID: <20010322140825.C531@flux> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010322103556.F8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000 From: Ian Peters Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:35:56AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > > I've seen this with some applets (and gnome-terminal size and position > but that's different). When it comes to the applets, I chalk it down to > a bug in the applet itself. My particular b?te-noire is gweather: it is > obsessed with Pittsburgh and keeps trying to tell me about it on start-up. Ahh, but when I was going to CMU this was *so* convenient -- Ian Peters "...it is 5 am and the sun has charred the other itp@gnu.org side of the earth and come back to us and painted itp@ximian.com the smoke over our heads an imperial violet..." From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Thu Mar 22 15:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0410C2BB40 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MKDp918158 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:51 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list Subject: Re: Two newbie questions Message-ID: <20010322201351.B18006@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list References: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <985287234.3aba4a425bf04@www.lunalounge.net>; from drifter@outerlounge.de on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:53:54PM +0100 or thereabouts, the drifter wrote: > Zitiere Telsa Gwynne : > > > Gah. Know the problem. Can't help. With WindowMaker it's even better. > > However many workspaces I closed the session with, I get one when I > > restart it and everything clustered onto that one workspace. > > hm... (using wmaker as my WM, I never experienced "vanishing" workspaces) > cannot resist to ask the obvious question comin' to my mind: > Do you configure wmaker running on his own once before > using it under gnome ? Excellent question. I apologise, but I can't remember now :) It was a long time ago. I don't even start and stop X enough on this machine to remember whether the workspaces came up this time. (Apparently this X session has been running since the first week in February.) > Whenever I want to make static changes to the way wmaker lies under my > gnome, I start it up on its own, as the default-setting is not to save > session-information, here, so that it doesn't do things I want gnome to do. > Then, after explicitly saving the setup in the configuration-managementtool > and in the menu normally reachable by f12 (workspace->save session) > its cemented for me .. I'll investigate this on the boxes I have here, which collectively run various distros with various versions of X, wmaker and GNOME. I do remember messing about with something similar because at one stage I had both wmaker and GNOME trying to do session-management and it all got very silly. Thanks for the tip. Telsa From kh_naba@yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 22:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138D2BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01028 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:21:59 +0530 Message-ID: <3ABACC08.917BA446@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:37:36 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Best gnome debugging/development environment References: <20010322103003.482A12E148@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > > > What is the best gnome debugging/development environment? Try Anjuta C/C++ IDE. http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/. In addition to many other features, it has Gnome apps widzards, integrated debugger, project management and a very sweet editor. :-) -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------- From jverel@home.com Thu Mar 22 23:22:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (cv150607-a.norwlk1.ct.home.com [24.228.1.114]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A632BA99 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from john@localhost) by CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2MNNc301571 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com: john set sender to jverel@home.com using -f Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:38 +0000 From: "John P. Verel" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: where is 'db2html' Message-ID: <20010322232338.A1532@CV150607-A.norwlk1.ct.home.com> References: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010322113040.J8781@aloss.ukuu.org.uk>; from hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 11:30:40AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 03/22/01, 11:30:40AM +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 07:05:16PM +0300 or thereabouts, Alexander Koptelov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Can anybody tell me what pachage contains program named 'db2html'? stylesheets-1.54.13rh-5, on my machine. -- John P. Verel Norwalk, CT From vk_gnome@rediffmail.com Thu Mar 22 23:38:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailweb5.rediffmail.com (unknown [202.54.124.150]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6D82D3B6 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5056 invoked by uid 510); 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Date: 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (161.114.88.76) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 23 Mar 2001 04:31:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? From: "Vasu Kulkarni V" Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain Content-Description: Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. with ./configure , make , and make install. presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. I am new to this. please give me more details. bye -Vasu Kulkarni. Bangalore(India). _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com From ash@hobbiton.org Fri Mar 23 01:19:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-141.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECC2DB61 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2N6MSF05642 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:22:27 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: no more error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 Message-ID: <20010323012227.A5597@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010316233208.A72328@darkstar> <002c01c0aec6$f543e900$530039cb@ns1.netserv.net.au> <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010317054138.A355@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:41:38AM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i figured out the problem. for those curious, there are what's called "ports" from the FreeBSD group. the ports are basically just fancy tarballs that contain patches which allow the tarballed source to compile and run accordingly under FreeBSD. "ports" exist for most of the popular applications and toolkits, etc. and can be located at http://www.freebsd.org/ports austin n hems wrote, Saturday 17 March: > make sure you compile in the exactorderthat it specifies on the web page (if > your running latest stable) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: error compiling gnome-libs-1.2.9 > > > > I am compiling gnome for FreeBSD4.4 using the 1.2.9 tarballs. No previous > gnome > > has lived on this particular system before. The building process will not > get > > past zvt though due to an undefined reference: > > > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/zterm zterm.o > .libs/libzvt.so -lz -lm -lutil > > -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib > -lXext > > -lX11 -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lgdk_imlib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib - > lgtk > > -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lXext -lX11 -lm > ../support/.libs/libgnomesupport.so -lz > > -lm -lz -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > .libs/libzvt.so: undefined reference to `ALIGN' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > my question is--what is ALIGN and why is it not defined? a recursive grep > on > > ALIGN from gnome-libs-1.2.9/zvt shows matches in the files subshell.lo, > > subshell.o, and .libs/(libzvt.a, libzvt.so, libzvt.so.4) but no reference > to it > > is made in any text source-files that I could find. The only unusual thing > I've > > had to do in this building process is --disable-nls because I don't have > > bindtext. It looks like I am missing a library or it's not being found, > > but I have satisfied all of the pre-requirements and have built the > > tarballs i lacked from the extra-source/ tree on ftp.gnome.org. > > > > thanks > > austin From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Fri Mar 23 05:34:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8812E46B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 05:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NAbOH21621 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:37:24 +0000 From: Telsa Gwynne To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: Re: is gnome-core sufficient to install Gnome desktop? Message-ID: <20010323103724.A21462@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" References: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010323043154.5055.qmail@mailweb5.rediffmail.com>; from vk_gnome@rediffmail.com on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:31:54AM -0000 or thereabouts, Vasu Kulkarni V wrote: > HI, > i downloaded the latest unstable version of gnome1.4 core(source files)? > is it sufficient to install gnome-desktop. > with ./configure , make , and make install. > presently i am using kde on red had 6.2 on intel platform. > I am new to this. please give me more details. If you mean you have only got gnome-core-1.4.0-tar.gz, then no, I don't think it is. I think it wants at least a new version of gnome-libs and probably of control-center, and those may want new versions of a great many other files. There's a FAQ on compiling GNOME, but its suggested order applies to GNOME 1.2. The details about "what do I do with a tarball?" and "what are prefixes and do I need them?" will be the same, though. Several suggested compile orders have been posted to the gnome-1.4 list as different betas have come out. FAQ's at http://www.gnome.org/faqs/users-faq/ gnome-1.4 archives are at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-1.4-list Speaking from experience, attempting to compile the first beta of what will be GNOME 1.4 took me a day and then I gave up :) If you're new and are concerned about doing bad things to your computer, I strongly suggest that you wait for the final GNOME 1.4 release. RC1 is release candidate 1, which means that we are in theory very close to GNOME 1.4 proper coming out. (Barring disasters, the last date I saw was at the end of this month: gnome-1.4 list is where you'd find updates on that.) It will still be in tarballs initially, but I would put money (well, a penny or so) on a variety of rpms and debs showing up within a week of that, and they're -much- easier to deal with when you're new to things. Telsa From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 07:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve From Markus_Nickels@casa.es Fri Mar 23 07:20:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.casa.es (mail.casa.es [194.69.224.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1522DD95 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.casa.es(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256A18.00492139 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:18:46 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASA From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es To: gnome-list@gnome.org Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:15:16 +0100 Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion From toralf@kscanners.com Fri Mar 23 07:33:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1232E4E4 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14gQiM-0000Wj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:45 +0100 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNOME mailing list Subject: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: (gdb) where #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () #7 0x80bff8b in main () #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of applets that continually update their display. Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? -- # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 XFree86-4.0.1-1 apmd-3.0final-18 XFree86 driver is "neomagic". - Toralf From shomer@mondello.toronto.fmco.com Fri Mar 23 08:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (www.fmco.com [199.85.124.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B8B2D04B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: id IAA09233; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:30 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B8@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion ximian/gnome-1.4-beta/distributions/ -----Original Message----- From: Markus_Nickels@casa.es [mailto:Markus_Nickels@casa.es] Sent: 23 March 2001 12:15 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Where is the rc1 loacted on the server ? I Can't find it. Steve Homer con fecha 23/03/2001 13.09.12 Destinatarios: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" CC: (cci: Markus Nickels/MTA/EADSCASA) Asunto: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Hi guys, I'm looking to install release candidate 1 and have run into a potential problem. Is this a required rpm? Redhat 6.2 install from the ximian ftp site. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list Cabecera Internet: Received: from mail.gnome.org ([209.116.70.71]) by mail.casa.es (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A18.00486800; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:10:52 +0100 Received: from mail.gnome.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15DF2E4D2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:10:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from Charon.toronto.fmco.com (charon5.fmco.com [199.85.124.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9487F2D3B6 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: id HAA05781; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2B880767BA80D411A38E00A0C9D613BD3D47B5@arthur.london.fmco.com> From: Steve Homer To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: gdk-pixbuf missing from ximian distribution of gnome 1.4 rc1? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:09:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From cmevoli@afsa.com Fri Mar 23 09:07:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from interlock.afsa.com (interlock.afsa.com [199.221.49.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7A2BB71 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.afsa.com id GAA20576 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for gnome-list@gnome.org); Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:07:07 -0800 Message-Id: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:08:04 -0500 From: Chazz Mevoli Reply-To: cmevoli@afsa.com Organization: AFSA Data Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <3ABB41F5.118BE888@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I had the same problem on my laptop and it's not the panel of gnome's fault. The apm system is probably affecting gnome. I own an IBM ThinkPad 760XD and had the same thing happen to me. I did some searching on google and found kernel level drivers to let linux handle correctly the apm system. Your Toshiba might have the same problem. Also, on my laptop, if I have a pcmcia card in the slot when suspending, the keyboard/mouse stop responding on wake. My workaround for this was to call "cardctl eject" in the suspend scripts for apmd-proxy. Hope this info helps. Good luck to you! Toralf Lund wrote: > I'm not sure if this is really a problem with GNOME, XFree86, apmd or > something else, but the GNOME panel definitely affects the behaviour: > > When returning from suspend mode initiated while a GNOME session is > active - using 'apm -s' or by pressing the "suspend" button - on one of > our laptops (a Toshiba Tecra 8000), the X server seems to hang. The > screen goes blank and keyboard or mouse input is not accepted (it's not > even possible to switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+), > but logging in via rsh or similar is no problem. Furthermore, if I > attach a debugger X process and force it to return from the current > subroutine, then continue ("return" followed by "continue" in gdb), > everything is back to normal. Stack trace just after attaching is: > > (gdb) where > #0 0x85eec92 in ?? () > #1 0x86a0eb5 in ?? () > #2 0x86b1329 in ?? () > #3 0x815673c in miClearToBackground () > #4 0x816b3b4 in miSpriteInitialize () > #5 0x80b0f0c in ProcClearToBackground () > #6 0x80aee96 in Dispatch () > #7 0x80bff8b in main () > #8 0x4006ff31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80bfa20
, > argc=4, ubp_av=0xbffffd44, init=0x806af68 <_init>, > fini=0x8175a0c <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, > stack_end=0xbffffd3c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 > (gdb) > > However, and this is where the panel comes into the picture, I can only > reproduce the problem if either a "menu panel" is open, or if a sliding > panel is about to come into view just as the machine is suspended. I > guess the "panel movement" in general - for instance the whole thing > sliding in or the menu panel's clock being updated - may have something > to do with it , but everything is still fine even if I run a lot of > applets that continually update their display. > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas what is wrong? > > -- > # rpm -q gnome-core XFree86 apmd > gnome-core-1.2.4-0_helix_2 > XFree86-4.0.1-1 > apmd-3.0final-18 > > XFree86 driver is "neomagic". > > - Toralf > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Don't wait for your ship to come in... Swim out to it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux... Where do you want to go tomorrow? From robkra@gmx.net Fri Mar 23 15:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A6922C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15579 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2001 20:30:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:30:57 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Kraus To: gnome-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Cant start GTK apps X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0005652802@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [212.186.142.108] Message-ID: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, X crashes and restarts after I start GTK apps on newly compiled XFree86-4.0.3. (KDE2 works fine; MDK 7.2): A little overview of my installation/problems: $ rpm -V gtk+ Unsatisfied dependencies for gtk+-1.2.8-6mdk: /sbin/ldconfig , libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libXi.so.6 but the libraries are there: # /sbin/ldconfig -v | grep libX ... libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.2 ... libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0 ... libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.4 the files libX11, libXi, libXext are in /usr/X11/lib/ e.g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so and I have made links to /usr/lib and /lib: # ls -l /usr/lib/libX11* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 19:16 /usr/lib/libX11.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mär 23 18:18 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6* What else do I have to do to be able to start gnome apps? Thank you very much for your answer. robert -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From jg@pa.dec.com Fri Mar 23 15:35:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail2.pa-x.dec.com (unknown [204.123.2.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E152C907 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from src-mail.pa.dec.com (src-mail.pa.dec.com [16.4.16.35]) by mail2.pa-x.dec.com (8.9.2/8.9.3/WV2.0h) with ESMTP id MAA04927; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by src-mail.pa.dec.com; id MAA12623; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: jg@pa.dec.com (Jim Gettys) Received: (from pachydrm@localhost) by pachyderm.pa.dec.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NKYmg193099; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> X-Mailer: Pachyderm (client bombur.crl.dec.com, user jg) To: cmevoli@afsa.com Cc: Toralf Lund , GNOME mailing list In-Reply-To: <200103231407.GAA20576@interlock.afsa.com> Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with behind its back. On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. Solution: Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, and move back to the X server at the end of resume. On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make this the default behavior is beyond me... But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage your hardware may have with power management). - Jim -- Jim Gettys Technology and Corporate Development Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com From drifter@outerlounge.de Fri Mar 23 17:01:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from RAS23-235.gwdg.de (RAS23-235.gwdg.de [134.76.23.235]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A462BA99 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from drifter@localhost) by lunalounge.outerlounge.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2NLxYd30694 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:59:34 +0100 From: the drifter To: GNOME mailing list Subject: gdm-indirect-problem Message-ID: <20010323225934.A30653@outerlounge.de> Mail-Followup-To: the drifter , GNOME mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi ! While trying to deploy gdm in indirect-mode to get a look at the chooser, I got ############ error-message ############### gdm_xdmcp_decode: Could not create XDMCP buffer! ############ error-message ############### Can anybody enlighten me what this means (how it's caused) ? Thx in advance, drifter -- drifter@outerlounge.de http://www.outerlounge.de/drifter 23.....56.......drifting From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Fri Mar 23 20:18:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24922BAFB for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2O1IdH07499; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: Annamalai G Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Mar 2001 17:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > Greetings to All. > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. If that's not what you mean, please clarify. --Ben From landie@concentric.net Fri Mar 23 20:58:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AD2BB33 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA13303; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:45 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts005d39.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.236.243]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA21164; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:58:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:18:08 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: Robert Kraus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: quickq? Message-Id: <20010323201808.257b5f17.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> References: <18387.985379457@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when installing rc1 from source is there an order to follow From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 04:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CE22BB74 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23996; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:32:49 +0530 To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: icon labels. References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530 In-Reply-To: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ben FrantzDale writes: > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > Greetings to All. > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop background color. To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 distribution) and the enlightenment wm. Hope you could help. Thanks for the effort. Cheers, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 06:22:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9392BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm8B-0007lM-06; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:51 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.217.69]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gm85-1PX3EeC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:23:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi all, I have SUSE7.1 running and compiled the whole gnome.beta package after removing all SUSE created gnome. Gnome runs but there are some problems. Adding a laucher to panel as gnome-terminal or xterm works, but after restarting gnome they are lost. Lauching the background-properties-capplet with gnomecc never works, but if I first launch gnomcc and then background-properties-capplet via comand line the capplet works, Sound system doesn't seem to work. At startup gnome gives some warnings like that: SESSION_MANAGER=local/buero1:/tmp/.ICE-unix/756 SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - Succeeded GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108160 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1280 hbeg: 1424 hend: 1680 httl: 1688 vdsp: 960 vbeg: 960 vend: 970 vttl: 1019 flags: 0 Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data (0x81841B0) ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 598 (gsm_protocol_new): assertion `GNOME_CLIENT_CONNECTED (gnome_client)' failed. Sitzungsmanager konnte nicht kontaktiert werden Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GsmProtocol' ** CRITICAL **: file gsm-protocol.c: line 642 (gsm_protocol_get_current_session): assertion `protocol != NULL' failed. waiting for X server to shut down Has anyone an idea if this is typical at this state or what I did wrong during installation ? achim From landie@concentric.net Sat Mar 24 06:30:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335602BAC0 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id GAA20558; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:05 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts032d34.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.25.94]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id GAA29775; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:30:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:51:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Message-Id: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when trying source for RC1 is there a specific order to install them? -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Sat Mar 24 07:05:00 EST 2001 From gannam@india.dharma.com Sat Mar 24 06:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BAC2DB53 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29215 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:26:18 +0530 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: startx file From: G Annamalai Date: 24 Mar 2001 17:32:56 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello all, This question is not related to gnome, but I thought I could clarify my doubt here itself. Please ignore this mail if not interested. In the startx file I see something like if [ "x$serverargs" = x ]; then serverargs="$1" else serverargs="$serverargs $1" fi I dont know why there is/was such a need. I feel that this if condition can just be replaced with serverargs="$serverargs $1" Am I right or did I overlook something? Also, one of the patterns in the while loop is (do refer to the startx file, if you have got the time and patience) /''*|\.*) Can anyone help me know why there are two single quotes there in that pattern? I am not saying its not required, but I dont know what its doing there. I apologize for asking such an off-topic question. But the problem is I am subscribed to so many mailing-lists and non of them are related to shell scripts and I am trying to avoid subscribing to new mailing lists. Hope you all would understand :-X Thanks for your time. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From Klaehn@t-online.de Sat Mar 24 07:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE72BDA8 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnX1-0004Yb-08; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:35 +0100 Received: from buero1 (06053600030-0001@[217.1.219.217]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14gnWy-2J2SJMC; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:52:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Klaehn@t-online.de (Joachim Klaehn) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: typical beta behaviour or installation bug ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01032412235500.01028@buero1> <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: <20010324075120.04acf02e.landie@concentric.net> Cc: landie@concentric.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032413533700.02082@buero1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06053600030-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Am Samstag, 24. März 2001 13:51 schrieben Sie: > when trying source for RC1 is there a > specific order to install them? I compiled in this order: glib-1.2.9 gtk+-1.2.9 audiofile-0.2.1 esound-0.2.22 ORBit-0.5.7 libxml-1.8.11 oaf-0.6.5 GConf-1.0.0 imlib-1.9.9 gnome-libs-1.2.13 libunicode-0.4 gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1 gnome-print-0.27 libglade-0.16 gnome-vfs-1.0 gal-0.5 scrollkeeper-0.1.4 gtk-engines-0.12 libgtop-1.0.12 libghttp-1.0.9 gtop-1.0.13 xalf-0.7 rep-gtk-0.15 xml-i18n-tools-0.8.1 bonobo-0.37 bug-buddy-2.0 control-center-1.4.0 gtkhtml-0.8.2 gnome-guile-0.20pre2 ggv-1.0-beta1 ghex-1.2-beta1 gnome-core-1.4.0 gnome-applets-1.4.0 gnome-audio-1.4.0 gnome-media-1.2.0 gnome-pim-1.3.2 gnome-python-1.4.0 gnome-user-docs-1.4.0 gnome-utils-1.4.0 medusa-0.5.0 ammonite-1.0.0 nautilus-1.0 gdm-2.2.0 sawfish-0.38 achim From sean.middleditch@iname.com Sat Mar 24 13:30:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E502D2DBD2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sean.aweplay (nic-131-c196-222.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.196.222]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OIUqa26020 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:30:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Control Center - 1.3.90 From: Sean Middleditch To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.24.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Message-Id: <985458780.17174.6.camel@sean.aweplay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Um, I was wondering - shouldn't the theme selector be under the Look and Feel section of the Control Center, instead of Desktop? That would make a bit more sense. I am using 1.3.90 (from Eazel website), so this might already be changed in the 1.4 package, but I can't get most of those to compile (known errors, from what I've read, so I'm waiting for the next RC/full release). Just my $.02 -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc. From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Sat Mar 24 16:31:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48F2BCB2 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2OLVJH25036; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:31:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Ben FrantzDale To: G Annamalai Cc: Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.22.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:39:27 +0530, G Annamalai wrote: > Ben FrantzDale writes: > > > On 22 Mar 2001 21:34:58 +0530, Annamalai G wrote: > > > Greetings to All. > > > > > > I am using gnome desktop, and enlightenment wm. > > > > > > I would like to change the labels that appear below the icons (its > > > background and stuff). Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean. I assume you mean the names of the > > desktop icons? In that case you should be able to right click on them > > and rename them or else click on the icon text ala Windows to change it. > > > > If that's not what you mean, please clarify. > > Actually my background color is dark blue. And my icons label have > a white background. This looks odd. I'd like to change the background > _color_ of the labels so that it blends properly with my desktop > background color. > > To just help you help me, I am using gnome (that comes with RedHat6.0 > distribution) and the enlightenment wm. > > Hope you could help. > > Thanks for the effort. Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent text on the desktop, but there is one that does. --Ben From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 24 19:26:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCA52BF73 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2P0PMM09387; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:25:22 GMT Subject: Re: icon labels. From: Mike Newman To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: G Annamalai , Ben FrantzDale , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <985385911.8166.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> <985458699.1829.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 25 Mar 2001 00:25:21 +0000 Message-Id: <985479922.5650.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Ahh. Ok. That makes more sense. You basicly want transparent text labels > on desktop icons. I forget which version of Gnome comes with RedHat 6.0, > but I suspect it's somewhat out of date. You might want to try going to > Ximian.com and getting a newer version of gnome. I forget which version > of GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander--the file manager) supports transparent > text on the desktop, but there is one that does. Support for transparent icons and text labels goes back quite a way in gmc I think, but setting it up isn't obvious. Open a gmc window (such as "Home Directory"), select Settings->Preferences, and on the Desktop tab select "Use Shaped Text" Mike -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 02:42:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952442BDD0 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:41:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:43:13 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010325074149.VRLT26293.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list (maybe in a different gnome list?). It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory Thanks... From datazone@airmail.net Sun Mar 25 05:19:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from covert.iadfw.net (covert.black-ring.iadfw.net [209.196.123.142]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A6E2CA5C for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from scab.caprolite.org from [207.136.36.203] by covert.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with smtp for gnome-list@gnome.org sender: id ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:19:25 -0600 (CST) To: moparkix@bigfoot.com Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org From: datazone@airmail.net Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz X-Mailer: Gmail 0.7.0pre4 (http://gmail.linuxpower.org) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow and post it here. > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > Thanks... > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jens@eknif.de Sun Mar 25 08:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 887082BAAA for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29884 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Received: from r1251.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de (213.21.23.235) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 25 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:52:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: , Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it should fix this issue. Jens On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 datazone@airmail.net wrote: > as far as i can tell, the spec file in gnome-core does something > really weird with the "%configure" option, so that when it does a > "make blah blah install" it doesnt actually put the stuff in the > buildroot, instead it puts it in the actual prefix! some stuff goes > into the buildroot, but thats just very few. i dont know if this is > something that happens only on 4.0.2 or all versions of rpm. to fix > it, changing it from "%configure" to something along the lines of a > "./configure" usually works... i may rebuild the spec file tommorow > and post it here. > > > Is this a specfile issue? If so, does anyone have a fix? > > > > Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to figure this one out :(, but > > figured not only would I like a fix, but since its a release candidate, > > someone may like to know, and I haven't seen this in the mailing list > > (maybe in a different gnome list?). > > > > It seems to build fine, but I get the following error near the end: > > > > Could not open %files file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/ > > gnome-core-1.4.0/gnome-core-devel.files: No such file or directory > > > > Thanks... From len@philpot.org Sun Mar 25 14:29:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFBE2BBDD for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulcan ([208.180.169.215]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with SMTP id <20010325192848.XNNQ24883.io@vulcan> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:28:48 -0600 From: Len Philpot Reply-To: len@philpot.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Items missing from gnome menu - How to fix? Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:30 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032513343000.01245@vulcan> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've just apparently lost my session preferences, including several items in the system part of the gnome menu. The most important I'd like to restore are the Logout and Lock Screen choices, but even the Help choice is gone. The user stuff I know how, but not these. I'm able to add a button for each to the panel, but not the menu. This is on gnome 1.2 under RH7. I'm logged in as user 'len', but since it's my machine, I have full access if needed. Here's what led up to it: I had an apparently runaway process (fetchnews, maybe?) that caused the root filesystem to fill up completely. I found an 800MB+ ~/.xesession.errors and several hundred megs in /var/spool/squid. I was able to get the usage back down where it should be, but it never showed up (df -k), so I decided to reboot. Maybe I should have run 'sync'? Anyway, when it tried to shutdown squid, the system hung, so I had to hit the button. Now that I'm back up, usage is back to a normal level, but I've lost my gnome session preferences (or some of them). Another interesting thing is that if I su to root in a terminal and run gnomecc, it starts, but I get these kind of errors: root] ~ # gnomecc ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'background-properties-capplet'. aborting... ** WARNING **: an initialization error occurred while starting 'screensaver-properties-capplet'. aborting... Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 730 (gtk_container_remove): assertion `widget->parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed. ** CRITICAL **: file gtk-multiview.c: line 440 (gtk_multiview_set_current): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1508 (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(unknown)' to `GtkWidget' Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3493 (gtk_widget_get_style): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed. etc., etc. With each applet I choose from gnomecc, instead of the applet, I get a new instance of gnomecc. However, if I login as root, it runs normally. At any rate, I need to get the logout/lock and whatever else I'm missing from the system part of the meny added back. How can I do this? Am I better off just deleting or renaming ~/.gnome* and starting over, or will this even accomplish anything? Since I'm on the Internet with a cable modem, just out of paranoia, what are some common checks I can do to see if anyone gained access? Thanks. -- -- Len Philpot -> len@philpot.org (personal) <-- ----------------> len.philpot@cleco.com (work) <-- ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <-- From moparkix@bigfoot.com Sun Mar 25 19:22:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDE62D2EC for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:22:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:23:32 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > Hi, > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > should > fix this issue. > > Jens > Ok, I must be really dense. I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd the resulting spec against the one found in the gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. From rob@ZOOstation.cc Sun Mar 25 21:23:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ZOOstation.cc (203-109-159-60.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.159.60]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE7C2DC3F for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rob@localhost) by ZOOstation.cc (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2NJAaK01435; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:10:36 +1200 Message-Id: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Subject: File Dialog From: Rob Brown-Bayliss To: GNOME List Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more useful as a users recent directory list. I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. -- Rob Brown-Bayliss ---======o======--- www.ZOOstation.cc From toralf@kscanners.com Mon Mar 26 01:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3C2E14B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hQqI-0007Cm-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABEE6DA.DFA5C3A5@kscanners.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:51:06 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Gettys Cc: cmevoli@afsa.com, GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: Panel hangs X server on APM resume (?) References: <200103232034.f2NKYmg193099@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > The cause of this is your BIOS's need to access the registers of your > display controller during the power down/resume sequence interfering > with the X servers need for those registers to not get messed with > behind its back. > > On many graphics chips, this causes chaos, up to and including freezing > the machine completely. On some, it is benign, and doesn't bother anything. That's what I've been thinking all along, but what strikes me as really odd is that I've not been able to reproduce the problem with a simple X session, or even GNOME without a menu panel or a panel "sliding in". > > > > Solution: > > Arrange to switch to a text console as part of the power down sequence, > and move back to the X server at the end of resume. > > On recent RedHat systems, part of the scripts invoked can do this > automatically by a trivial edit documented in the scripts; and I believe > recent XFree86 servers may do this on their own. Why they didn't make > this the default behavior is beyond me... I forgot to tell that I tried that earlier, but it caused but the X server would crash just after the switch back from the VT. Again, this seems strange to me, as this never happens if I change back and forth by hand (i.e. via Ctrl+Alt+), or even if I switch to a virtual console before suspending, then let the apm script change back. > > > But this is the cause of your trouble. (above and beyond whatever brain-damage > your hardware may have with power management). > - Jim - Toralf From atounkara@nomade.fr Mon Mar 26 02:36:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183472BE87 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nomade.fr (127.0.0.1) by mail.libertysurf.net (5.1.053) id 3AA3431E0003BE88 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:36:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:36:14 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: SunOS and graphic cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "atounkara@nomade.fr" To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.22 X-SenderIP: 47.162.85.36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I've chosen to install gnone under Sun Solaris 5.7, but it seems to have some problems with the colors (limited to 256 colors) How can i display information about my board under gnome ? ------------------- L'e-mail gratuit pas comme les autres. Pour cr=E9er votre adresse : http://www.nomade.fr/courrier/ouvrir.asp NOMADE.FR, pourquoi chercher ailleurs ? From jens@eknif.de Mon Mar 26 02:40:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 500C12DE43 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24909 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Received: from 213-21-58-14.access.surf-callino.de (213.21.58.14) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 07:40:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:41:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <20010326002213.JLFF1913.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323584-802635504-985596110=:21352 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 moparkix@bigfoot.com wrote: > > Subject: Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz > > > > Hi, > > > > there is a new spec file in CVS now. Please test this one first, it > > should > > fix this issue. > > > > Jens > > > > Ok, I must be really dense. > > I looked on cvs.gnome.org and only found the spec.in, checked out > gnome-core, and again, just the spec.in, so I autogen'd and then diff'd > the resulting spec against the one found in the > gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz, and they are the same. I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the offical cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to this mail so you can test it out. 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I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on every check. Has anyone else seen this? Is there an alternative to the gnome-core Mailcheck when using an IMAP server? -- Toralf Lund +47 66 85 51 22 Kongsberg Scanners AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.kscanners.no/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax) From jaka@activetools.si Mon Mar 26 04:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A242BF3B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378517282; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:07:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A213A22; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:11:19 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > every check. make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a lot. regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From adam@bobomobo.cwru.edu Mon Mar 26 04:59:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from bobomobo.cwru.edu (bobomobo.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.244.57]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5342DB65 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from adam@localhost) by bobomobo.cwru.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id EAA00911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:59:04 -0500 From: adam morley To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326045904.A831@bobomobo.cwru.edu> References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc>; from rob@ZOOstation.cc on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 07:10:35AM +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. yes. i like this idea. i have often wondered why gnome doesn't have it. those who have used windows 2000 (others too) notice the left hand dialog with "mycomputer" etc. it would be cool if we could have this, and make it configurable up the ying yang. > > > -- > > Rob Brown-Bayliss > ---======o======--- > www.ZOOstation.cc > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- thanks adam From adltorre@terra.es Wed Mar 21 18:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E572E001 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.terra.es ([213.99.219.44]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GAKM3600.12U; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:01:45 +0100 From: Antonio de la Torre To: veillard@redhat.com Cc: "John B. Stephens,II" , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnorpm & rpm's Message-ID: <20010321170144.A521@nono> References: <3AB6C869.CC6DDFAC@flash.lakeheadu.ca> <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010321104406.C7243@imag.fr>; from veillard@redhat.com on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 16:44:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Content-Length: 1189 Lines: 36 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 2001.03.21 16:44:06 +0100 Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:03:05PM -0500, John B. Stephens,II wrote: > > i have recently tried to upgrade some rpm packages ( installed from > > redhat 6.0 ) to newer versions. > > however , i am getting error msgs. like: > > > > "..only packages with major number <= 3 are supported by this version > of > > rpm..." > > > > when i a try to either "upgrade" / "install". > > i tried to dwnload the ver 4+ 0f rpm , as well as the 0.9+ version of > > gnorpm - both / eother of which i can get but am unable to open with > > this present version of rpm and gnorpm, without getting the errors i > > spoke of. > > > > any ideas as to why / what the problem is?? > > thanks in advance for any / all suggestions , etc. I had the same problem as you. The first time i tested nautilus (i haven't tried anymore) i installed the rpm (i think it's 3.0.5 version) package provided in Eazel's page for red hat 6.2 and i could use gnorpm with no problem. I think this is the url: http://www.eazel.com/download/download_rpm Good luck! -- _______________________ Antonio de la Torre http://www.nonoweb.f2s.com adltorre@terra.es icq #19771138 From chris@scary.beasts.org Wed Mar 21 17:46:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.18.131]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31272CA46 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19329 invoked by uid 501); 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Evans X-Sender: To: jacob berkman Cc: Subba Rao , Gnome Users Subject: Re: Gnome Panel items and TCP ports In-Reply-To: <985012455.12800.0.camel@ulysses> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 19 Mar 2001, jacob berkman wrote: > > Is this normal behaviour of the GNOME applets? > > yes. if you don't want the applets binding to tcp sockets, put this in > either your ~/.orbitrc or `gnome-config --sysconfdir`/orbitrc: > > ORBIIOPUSock=1 > ORBIIOPIPv4=0 > ORBIIOPIPv6=0 All GNOME-1.2 packagers, AFAIK, have opted for these safe defaults (fondly we recall the massive flame wars ;-). Including: - RedHat 7.0 - Ximian GNOME - Debian, so I'm told Perhaps the original poster is a RedHat6.x or other GNOME-1.0 user? Cheers Chris From m0par@home.com Wed Mar 21 17:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585162BDC0 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:17:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:18:55 -0600 From: Booboo To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? Reply-To: m0par@home.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010321221725.NQTD10460.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 21 Mar 2001, gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:24:52 +0300 > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > From: gregory@mcst.ru (Gregory A. Shimansky) > Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org > Subject: What are gconf and liboaf and where do I get them? > > Hello here > > While compiling gnome-vfs-1.0 I got these errors: > > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.h:29: liboaf/liboaf.h: No such file or > directory > gnome-vfs-mime-handlers.c:32: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or > directory > > What gnome packages provide these includes? Readme file has nothing. > -- > Gregory > oaf and GConf ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/betas/gnome-1.4rc1/ From luciano@xmaster.scazzons.scz Thu Mar 22 15:41:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from xmaster.scazzons.scz (ppp-1-220.21-151.libero.it [151.21.220.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845B32BCF9 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from luciano@localhost) by xmaster.scazzons.scz (8.11.2/8.8.7) id f2M8HkY13638 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:17:45 +0100 From: Luciano Boschi To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal Message-ID: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Reply-To: luckylux@freemail.it References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from gannam@india.dharma.com on mer, mar 21, 2001 at 12:30:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 16 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Alan Patterson writes: > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. In preferences dialog: use --login so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell -- Luciano Boschi ** member of PLUG: Prato Linux User Group ** http://www.prato.linux.it/ ( /~lboschi/ ) ** member of Dark Skies Italian Fan Club ** http://www.darkskiesworld.com/dsfc/frameset.htm From louisg00@bellsouth.net Wed Mar 21 19:12:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D12D418 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger (adsl-63-197-82.mia.bellsouth.net [208.63.197.82]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA18095; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:08:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103220008.TAA18095@mail0.mia.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: gnome-users-guide and 1.4 From: Louis Garcia To: Telsa Gwynne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> References: <200103210125.UAA26801@mail4.mia.bellsouth.net> <20010321131158.T5000@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n" X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 21 Mar 2001 19:10:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/plain On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote: > > Ok guys last question, > > > > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing > > gnome-users-guide? > > Yes. > > It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in > it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although > it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum. > > /me adds another to the todo list. > > Telsa > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed. Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 
On 21 Mar 2001 13:11:58 +0000, Telsa Gwynne wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 08:21:46PM -0500 or thereabouts, Louis Garcia wrote:

> > Ok guys last question,

> > 

> > I don't see gnome-users-guide being in rc1. Is gnome-user-docs replacing

> > gnome-users-guide?

> 

> Yes.

> 

> It's got the users guide and a "if you're new to UNIX or Linux" thing in

> it, and I think a glossary and the FAQ will possibly go in too. Although

> it occurs to me that we have a 1.2 FAQ, not a 1.4 FAQ. Ho hum.

> 

> /me adds another to the todo list.

> 

> Telsa

> 

> _______________________________________________

> gnome-list mailing list

> gnome-list@gnome.org

> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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I have uninstalled gnome-users-guide but now when I click on GNOME User's Guide in the help browser an error shows up saying 'Error loading document: you probably don't have this documentation installed on your system.' Yes, I have gnome-user-docs properly installed.

Louis --=-r3vo4Q0fhS0M4EMDAi0n-- From saperei@baitaca.ipen.br Thu Mar 22 10:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from baitaca.ipen.br (baitaca.ipen.br [200.136.52.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD162BCDC for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.ipen.br (IDENT:saperei@[10.0.8.26]) by baitaca.ipen.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12383 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:26 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABA1615.90667208@net.ipen.br> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:17 -0300 From: Sergio Anefalos Pereira Organization: IPEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: problems with mouse pointer X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi everybody ! It is my first time in this list and I am a beginner in Linux systems. Unfortunately I am having some problem and I have no idea how to fix it. I'm using RedHat 6.2 and a PS/2 mouse. When a changed the screen resolution from 600x400 to 800x600 using Xconfigurator, the mouse pointer disappeared and what I have now is a white square of 2 x 2 cm. It moves exactly like the mouse pointer and it works like it. The upper left corner activates links and icons. But it's impossible to work with this square. I have tried to change the mouse (to serial one) and reinstall it. In text window mode, it seems to work well, but in the xwindow mode it is terrible. The only thing that I wouldn't like to do is reinstall the Linux. I have many programs and other stuff. So please, does anyone could help me ????? Thank you for your attention, Sergio From justinb@tricord.com Mon Mar 26 07:57:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from idoru.tricord.com (unknown [64.240.27.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06932DC1A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from justinb@localhost) by idoru.tricord.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03317; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 From: Justin Banks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15039.15527.522457.309028@idoru.tricord.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:57:11 -0600 (CST) X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: justinb@tricord.com X-Supreme-Numerical-Value: Bleen To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: function key <-> mouse button bindings X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello - I couldn't find this in the FM, and I'm not quite sure how to do it. What I'd like is to map F4 so that it'll paste from the cut buffer into xterms. I know this should be easy, I just can't quite get it. I'm running core 1.0, but an upgrade is on the map, as soon as I can find the time. Thanks much, justinb -- Justin Banks Tricord, Inc. justinb@tricord.com "Sorry I am off-topic, but OpenNT is the 2nd best oxymoron I've ever seen. Right after Microsoft Works." (Jacek Pliszka in comp.emacs.xemacs) From gannam@india.dharma.com Mon Mar 26 08:31:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from india.dharma.com (unknown [164.164.87.180]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE502E27A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILVER (silver [132.147.160.162]) by india.dharma.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04531; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:03:31 +0530 To: luckylux@freemail.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-terminal References: <09D53AD18D26D4118CB000D0B78825FF2E4A8E@nx-mail> <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> From: G Annamalai Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:10:05 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010322091745.A13542@xmaster.scazzons.scz> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Luciano Boschi writes: > > Alan Patterson writes: > > > > > gnome-terminal doesn't read my .bash_profile file, even though > > > I'm running bash as my shell. Other terminals do. > > In preferences dialog: use --login > so the gnome-terminal will behave like a login shell Actually the best thing to do is to put all your customizations in your .bashrc file and source it from .bash_profile file. .bash_profile file is read only by the login shell and the .bashrc file is read by every (bash) shell. Maybe just have a look in the bash man/info page. Rgds, anna -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. - RFC 1925 From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Mon Mar 26 09:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C012BB41 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-6.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.166]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18511; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:51:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Rob Brown-Bayliss Cc: GNOME List In-Reply-To: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:50:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 24 Mar 2001 07:10:35 +1200, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote: > HI, I had an idea about the file dialog today, how about having a recent > directory list,perhapse for the individual programme, but maybe more > useful as a users recent directory list. > > I thought of this when useing 2 progs to access files in the same > directory, it's just a minor thing, but could be useful. > > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, and in my opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be very useful. A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Bart From mike@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk Mon Mar 26 10:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (gtnorthern.demon.co.uk [212.229.129.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3682BEE0 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by gtnorthern.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f2QF6Ds22381; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: An Apology From: Mike Newman To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9cvs-head-20010323-pilot (Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:06:12 +0100 Message-Id: <985619172.21469.0.camel@gtnorthern.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Everyone, I want to apologise for a flippant and thoughtless comment I made on #gnome yesterday, concerning recent events at Eazel, Inc. E-mail received since the event has reminded me that sarcasm, and indeed my very warped, very British sense of humour do not translate well to IRC. The comment was ill-judged, and no offence was intended. I'd like to extend sincere apologies to anyone who I've offended or angered. ...and now back to your regularly scheduled programming... Humbly, Mike Newmann -- Mike Newman, Weston-super-Mare, UK | http://www.gtnorthern.demon.co.uk From mawarkus@t-online.de Mon Mar 26 10:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5AC2BCB6; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hYx8-0007QG-02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:42 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.158.12.114]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hYwt-2HORAOC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:30:27 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11080; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog Message-ID: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion +++ Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:50:18PM +0000 +++ Bart Kuik e-mails me. Film at 11. Reply right now, after the break. > The file-dialog is one of the most crappy things of gtk+, Yes. > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. > A standard file-dialog must be there before the large apps (Gimp, > Nautilus, Galeon, Abi, Evolution, Gnumeric....) all make their own with > extra functionality like previews and buttons. Interface-consistency > between apps is one of the most important things for the average user. Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file requester. I don't know what became of the project. I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. We should not repeat other people's errors. mawa -- CO2 | >< - FUEL HERE | | LS-L ------' ROYAL +-------+ +------+--+ | +----+ SPACE | DON'T | | CAUTION | HARD ,--------' | DANGER: NAVY | STEP | +---------+ POINT B| SIG-29-42 | NNTP C/1897 +-------+ From moparkix@bigfoot.com Mon Mar 26 12:59:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24CD2BB23 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.mopartech.com ([24.178.140.13]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:00:52 -0600 From: moparkix@bigfoot.com To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: [New spec works--Thanks]Re: Can't build rpms from gnome-core-1.4.0.tar.gz Reply-To: moparkix@bigfoot.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Spruce 0.7.7 for X11 w/smtpio 0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010326175913.FIVB27186.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@www.mopartech.com> Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I suppose you are using anonymous cvs. This is lagging behind the > offical > cvs server a few hours to days. The new spec.in file is attached to > this > mail so you can test it out. > > Jens > Thanks Jens. It works here. From bathd@valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au Mon Mar 26 18:13:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.29]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DB2DCD4; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from valpro (valpro.edipost.auspost.com.au [192.245.13.87]) by firewall.edipost.auspost.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA22297; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:48 +1000 From: "David T. Bath" Reply-To: David.Bath@edipost.auspost.com.au Organization: EDIPost, Australia Post Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:46 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> In-Reply-To: <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Subject: Re: File Dialog MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032709134600.01151@valpro> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tuesday 27 March 2001 01:12, Matthias Warkus wrote: > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. A couple of things they have got right are 1) Multi-file select is trivial 2) The files, once selected, are displayed QUOTED, to stop confusion between embedded spaces and filename delimeters. --=20 David T. Bath - bathd@edipost.auspost.com.au +61 3 9204 8713 (w) 0419 316 634 (M) From miguel@erandi.helixcode.com Mon Mar 26 19:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from erandi.helixcode.com (erandi.ximian.com [141.154.95.33]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070DC2CA46; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from miguel@localhost) by erandi.helixcode.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11383; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:51:52 -0500 To: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> From: Miguel de Icaza Date: 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: mawarkus@t-online.de's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:18 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now Miguel. From mchamp@texas.net Mon Mar 26 21:57:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBFB2CE0C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-05.dallas.texas.net [209.99.60.5]) by mw2.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R2uuf05745 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:56:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: Problems removing items from Gnome system menu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion I am having a lot of problems just trying to remove some of the items in the Gnome system menu. I completely removed the Applications folder using gmenu, but I still see it on my menu panel. How can I get rid of these applications that are sticking around? They don't show up in gmenu (as root) at all. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Champagne, Software Engineer Capital Institutional Services, Inc. hm: mchamp@texas.net wk: mchampagne@capis.com From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 01:55:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD7FC2BDB7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 999 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r925.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.22.163) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 06:55:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for any hints. Jens From jens@eknif.de Tue Mar 27 02:10:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from plato.exmail.de (unknown [194.97.6.205]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DD82DF1D for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7528 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO r1322.hbg.dial.surf-callino.de) (213.21.24.52) by plato.exmail.de with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 07:10:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:10:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Finke X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Hires printable GNOME logo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, does a hires version of the gnome logo exists, which one can use for printing? Thanks for any pointers. Jens From toralf@kscanners.com Tue Mar 27 02:14:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from indonesia.kscanners.no (indonesia.kscanners.no [193.214.130.21]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84D2D4A4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kscanners.com ident=toralf) by indonesia.kscanners.no with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14hnfQ-0006me-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:13:23 +0200 From: Toralf Lund Organization: Kongsberg Scanners AS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaka Mocnik Cc: GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Toralf Lund wrote: > > > > I may be wrong, but it looks like the (panel-1.2.4) will sometimes crash > > when the "Mailcheck" applet looks for new messages on an IMAP server. > > I'm not sure about the exact conditions, as this does not happen on > > every check. > make it dump core and send a stack backtrace from gdb. that would help a > lot. Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... - Toralf From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 05:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CD2BDB1; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08839; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:55:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271055.MAA08839@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Miguel de Icaza Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <200103231910.f2NJAaK01435@ZOOstation.cc> <200103261451.QAA18511@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010326171217.A4751@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 12:54:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 26 Mar 2001 19:51:51 -0500, Miguel de Icaza wrote: <---> > Yes, scrolling by the sides is horrible. But it seems to be an > optional feature in Windows, as I can not find it right now > It's only there if you select the 'list view' (small icons with text beside them) as far as I can remember..... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 06:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414B2BF70 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10670; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271142.NAA10670@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Hires printable GNOME logo? From: Bart Kuik To: Jens Finke Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 13:40:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 09:55:36 +0200, Jens Finke wrote: > Hi, > > does a high resolution version of the gnome logo exists? Maybe even in > .eps? I remember that Matthias Warkus asked a similar question and we > really need this. But no one answered him so far on the list. Thanks for > any hints. I only have one as .xcf, but I don't know where it came from, so I putted it on my homepage: http://www.rendo.dekooi.nl/~kuik/logo-gnome.xcf.bz2 It's a 1320x1500px bzipped xcf with four layers (bg, text, foot, foot-shadow), hope that's enough :-) Bart From A.J.Molenaar@xirion.nl Tue Mar 27 07:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from arseen.xirion.nl (arseen.xirion.nl [194.178.60.146]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089E02D40C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from technetium.xirion.nl (technetium.xirion.nl [194.178.60.122]) by arseen.xirion.nl (8.9.3/ROU-HKA) with ESMTP id NAA00785; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:49:07 +0200 Received: by technetium.xirion.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Arjan J. Molenaar" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: RE: File Dialog Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Bart Kuik says: > and in my > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like 'desktop', 'home', > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files menu would be > very useful. How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and should be preserved IMHO. Ideas? Regards, Arjan From kilaru@netcontinuum.com Tue Mar 27 07:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from skilaru.netcontinuum.com (unknown [203.200.58.165]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15862CE0C for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcontinuum.com (IDENT:kilaru@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by skilaru.netcontinuum.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05756 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:47:14 -0800 From: Satish C Kilaru X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------19785FA4E684E22358569750" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list Thanks in advance Bye Kilaru --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="kilaru.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Satish C Kilaru Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kilaru.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kilaru;Satish C tel;work:91-80-8411438/9 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:kilaru@netcontinuum.com org:NetContinuum version:2.1 email;internet:kilaru@netcontinuum.com title:Software Development Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;NetContinuum ltd =0D=0AUnit No. 7, 2nd Floor, Innovator,=0D=0AITPL ;Bangalore;Karnataka;;India x-mozilla-cpt:;16608 fn:Satish C Kilaru end:vcard --------------19785FA4E684E22358569750-- From fabrice.colin@muscat.com Tue Mar 27 08:52:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from sithonia.muscat.com (sithonia.muscat.com [193.131.74.132]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4232CE23 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from muscat.com (red.muscat.com [193.131.74.121]) by sithonia.muscat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13643 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:50:13 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC09A87.C66DE1F9@muscat.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:49:59 +0100 From: Fabrice Colin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: <20010326170516.69DCA2D289@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Matthias Warkus wrote: > Miguel de Icaza has, a long time ago, checked a module into CVS (I > don't recall the name) with a bonobo-based clone of the Windows file > requester. I don't know what became of the project. > > I sincerely hope that nobody intends to incorporate a clone of that > monstruous dialog into GNOME and that Miguel's tentative was rather > planned as a base for further innovation. For one, the Windows file > requester scrolls sidewards, which is illogical, uncomfortable and > horribly inefficient w/r/t screen real estate. > > I seem to remember that the KDE file dialogs have repeated Microsoft's > error and are, in effect, sidewards-scrolling file manager components. > We should not repeat other people's errors. > > mawa Some months ago, somebody posted on this list a link to a library that patches/replaces the default file dialog. I find it most useful and this is actually what I use at home. But I am unable to remember its name or its URL... Maybe the person who posted it originally is reading this and could refresh my mind ? Fabrice -- "If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does." -- Groucho Marx From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 09:46:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0732BDC0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hukD-0007Ou-04; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:49 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.214.167]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hujb-1sLbzFC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:46:11 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22889 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:47:36 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Need German-language Nautilus screenshots Message-ID: <20010327154735.A22659@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, as you might know, due to a strange bug, Nautilus does not work on my system. I need some screenshots of it, however, and it's very unlikely that Eazel will fix the bug before the paper deadline (April 2nd). This one goes out to all the German-language guys here: Can someone of you do a couple of screenshots of what you consider important aspects of Nautilus 1.0? Please use a German locale and don't include any Eazel logos or other corporate identity. Thank you very much, mawa -- Nipple Mountains | Fucking Creek, Virginia | Sugar Tit, Tit Butts | Tickle Cunt Branch, Virginia | Kentucky Teton Mountain | Coldass Creek, North Carolina | -- mid-1800s' U.S. placenames From federico@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 10:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from guanabana.ximian.com (du-148-221-119-218.prodigy.net.mx [148.221.119.218]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBDA2CBBE for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from federico@localhost) by guanabana.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15870; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:29 -0600 Message-Id: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> X-Authentication-Warning: guanabana.ximian.com: federico set sender to federico@ximian.com using -f From: Federico Mena Quintero X-mantra: masochism, not policy To: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> Gcc: mail.2001-03 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" writes: > pims2@dds.nl (2001-03-18 at 1215.38 +0100): > > What format does the bitmap need to have in order to be used by xsetroot > > (file type not resolution) > > Try "man xsetroot" for info. > > But if you ask me, I would use display, a cmd of Imagemagick package, > cos it loads lots of formats ("display -root" and other parameters > would give you an image in root window placed as you want). Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Federico From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 10:54:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673C2CEDE; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23292; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:54:34 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271554.RAA23292@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: RE: File Dialog From: Bart Kuik To: Arjan "J." Molenaar Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 14:00:21 +0200, Arjan J. Molenaar wrote: > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some attempts > to make something better on the net, but I don't know how much of a difference > they make. I've seen some discussion about it on the gtk+ list, but no plans > were made to improve the current file selection box. What should be on the > wish-list? gtk+ style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly > like the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice feature and > should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? > Something based on the NeXTstep fileselector should indeed be the best (I assume the Wings / WindowMaker one is an exact clone). Small (360x320), with minimal mouse movement and not too much options. But going up in the directory structure (back to root) is a hell, coz you have to use the horizontal scrollbar with the scrollbuttons in the left bottom, while your mouse-pointer is in the right top side of the window. Everybody makes mistakes, and it's VERY uncomfortable if the interface 'punishes' you for making them. I didn't figure out where a button or something similar must be placed, but I know there must be a better way to do it. I think it's best to put the "recent files" in a virtual folder. At opening the window there must be 3 choices in the left-hand selection-box : home, recent, and the standard working-dir of the app (ie, $HOME/files/nameofapp) That's as far as I see the perfect fileselector. I ain't a interface-expert, I can't even hack a gtk+ app or whatever, I'm (still) just a user.... Hmmm.... nice.... the apple-like taskmenu of the gnome menu-panel (gnome-core 1.4.0) crashes (and restarts, good work! :) ) if I want to open it if I have the WindowMaker configger WPrefs.app opened with a dialog of the fileselector. I found a bug in a stable-release. gee. I'm gonna submit it. :-) Bart From mawarkus@t-online.de Tue Mar 27 11:15:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A522E0FF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14hw7v-00078A-03; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:23 +0200 Received: from audrey.my.box (340092246204-0001@[62.224.215.19]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14hw7N-1Y9tMOC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:14:49 +0200 Received: (from mawa@localhost) by audrey.my.box (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07104 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200 From: mawarkus@t-online.de (Matthias Warkus) To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Markus: It's not Markus, it's Matthias, Matthias Warkus X-Sender: 340092246204-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph in Gnumeric. Or am I mistaken? mawa -- It is a common characteristic of all democracies that intelligence is so highly regarded as to exempt the holder from the cares of office -- major@pyrmania From famrom@idecnet.com Tue Mar 27 11:26:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp4.eresmas.com (unknown [62.81.160.201]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA412DC49 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship ([62.83.23.149]) by smtp4.eresmas.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GAV71Y06.KDX for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:27:34 +0200 Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01831 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bitmap format? Message-ID: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com>; from federico@ximian.com on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 08:47:29AM -0600 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" which magically means that GNOME can be used from scripts or CLI too ( forbid!). Or the reply was of "GNOME is only clicky clicky" kind? :] BTW, there should be a --no-gui or --from-script or something like that, cos --init-session-settings does not sound nice, IMHO. As well as access to tile modes and other settings, cos until then, other commands win in script mode. GSR From jacob@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 11:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ulysses (ulysses.ximian.com [141.154.95.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7F2DC7A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jacob by ulysses with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14hwW5-0002rd-00; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:40:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Bitmap format? From: jacob berkman To: Guillermo "S." Romero / Familia Romero Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> References: <3AB498DA.DB07EBFF@dds.nl> <20010318161615.A1090@blitzkrieg.battleship> <200103271447.IAA15870@guanabana.ximian.com> <20010327182647.B1759@blitzkrieg.battleship> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <985711221.10891.0.camel@ulysses> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:26:47 +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > federico@ximian.com (2001-03-27 at 0847.29 -0600): > > Dude. Just use the GNOME control center. > > Then the full answer is: "background-properties-capplet > --init-session-settings --background-image=IMAGEFILE" does the --init-session-settings work multiple times? on some capplets, they acquire an X atom or something when they start up which causes them not to init their settings if run multiple times. jacob -- "I ain't no monkey, sho' cain't climb no tree." -- Robert Plant From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:08:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CEF2BCA2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27063; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric From: Bart Kuik To: Matthias Warkus Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:06:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > Hi, > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > in Gnumeric. > > Or am I mistaken? > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 12:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD262D3B8 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-109.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.109]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27749 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:21:42 +0200 Message-Id: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: gnome-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? Bart From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 15:00:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132C2BA85 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19721; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:01:44 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103271721.TAA27749@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already there) - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is quite complex): installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] --debug - print out debugging information (useful) --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - look discussion about fontmap files --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need at least one afm + one pfb to create font) fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) should be given by --assignment option. Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): installer/gnome-font-install \ --debug \ --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ --fontmap-path=./fonts Fortunately: This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up correct installation process in postinit scripts. Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > Bart > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:27:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117EE2C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26836 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202731.26835.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:27:31 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DCF82C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26857 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202801.26856.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:01 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From biffo@linuxmail.org Tue Mar 27 15:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from outblaze12.outblaze.com (outblaze12.outblaze.com [209.249.164.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57E22C81F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Mar 2001 20:28:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Peter Berthlin" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800 Subject: some newbie questions. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, i got some gnome questions. 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Info on my system: I got slackware 7.1, Xfree86 4.0.2, gnome+enlightenment installed from scratch. //Peter -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:46:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BF2BAAF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06792; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:46:27 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: some newbie questions. From: Bart Kuik To: Peter Berthlin Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:45:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of the Control Center > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... Bart From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Tue Mar 27 15:53:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF07B2DFCF for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh2-sub1-19.rendo.dekooi.nl [195.7.143.179]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07245; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:53:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Bart Kuik To: Lauris Kaplinski Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272001.XAA19721@zen.estpak.ee> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Thanks! The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the canvas used by Gnumeric? grtz, Bart On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > Hello! > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > there) > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > quite complex): > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > look discussion about fontmap files > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > should be given by --assignment option. > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > --debug \ > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > Fortunately: > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > Best wishes, > Lauris Kaplinski > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > Bart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From lauris@ximian.com Tue Mar 27 16:21:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zen.estpak.ee (zen.estpak.ee [194.126.101.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7E2BEE0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tont.kaplinski.com (adsl3756.estpak.ee [213.168.4.202]) by zen.estpak.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07268; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:21:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <200103272121.AAA07268@zen.estpak.ee> Subject: Re: gnome-print and fonts (Gnumeric) From: Lauris Kaplinski To: Bart Kuik Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200103272053.WAA07245@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.16.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 27 Mar 2001 23:20:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello! It is not a bug, or if, than the bug of X itself. Gtk canvas (gnumeric) has to use X fonts, antialiased one (print preview) uses font outlines directly. But antialiased canvas has other problems, so it is unpracticable for gnumeric. The situation will become better, if gnome will move to X render, but that will take some time. Sometimes gnumeric display will become better, if you reorder your fonts in X/xfs configuration file. Gnome-print uses first X font with correct style and size for Gtk canvas display - so if scalable fonts are before bitmap ones, the scalable ones will be used. >From my xfs config file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, Best wishes, Lauris Kaplinski On 27 Mar 2001 22:52:24 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > Thanks! > > The trick with the editing of the perl-script did the whole job. But do > you know why the fonts are really smooth in the print-preview and very > crappy in the application?? Or is that (amongst others) a bug in the > canvas used by Gnumeric? > > grtz, > Bart > > > On 27 Mar 2001 22:00:39 +0200, Lauris Kaplinski wrote: > > Hello! > > > > If you compile gnome-print from source, there is an script in base directory, that > > you can execute (it is executed by make install anyways): > > > > perl run-gnome-font-install installer/gnome-fonts-install . . > > > > It should extract font locations from your ghostscript installation - but I have told, that > > sometimes it fails on that. In latter case you either: > > - edit perl script by hand and add urw font path to default paths (unless it is already > > there) > > - run the actual installer program by hand (but its syntax for first-time installation is > > quite complex): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install [options] [directories] > > > > --debug - print out debugging information (useful) > > --target - resulting fontmap file (should be $prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2) > > --afm-path=PATH - base path for afm files (you can specify more than 1 option) - > > look discussion about fontmap files > > --pfb-path=PATH - base path for pfb files (same) > > --assignment=KEY,PATH - specify base path for keyed relative file locations > > --fontmap-path=PATH - directory to look for fontmap files > > > > Additionally directories are scanned for installable fonts (you need > > at least one afm + one pfb to create font) > > > > fontmap files are distributed together with gnome-print, and these > > specify some almost standard fonts + locations (like X and TeX ones). > > In addition fontmap files specify relative positions of fonts. These > > can be simply relative dirs (in which case --afm-path or --pfb-path > > will be used as base). Or these can be arbitrary keys (only key > > "ghostscript" is used in gnome-print distribution) - in which case the base(s) > > should be given by --assignment option. > > Plus they specify URW font aliases. Namely URW fonts do not have "real" > > names - like Helvetica due to licensing problems. fontmap files define > > necessary association between afm with real font name and pfb with > > "fake" one, so gnome-print can use fonts with real names. > > > > In my system (RH 7.0) installer is run initially as (in gnome-print build dir): > > > > installer/gnome-font-install \ > > --debug \ > > --afm-path=/usr/share/fonts/afms \ > > --pfb-path=/usr/share/fonts \ > > --target=./fonts/fontmap2 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50 \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript \ > > --assignment=ghostscript,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 \ > > --fontmap-path=./fonts > > > > Fortunately: > > This syntax is only needed for initial install (you need font description files to specify > > aliases). Later, if you want to add fonts, you simply run: > > > > gnome-font-install --target=PATH [directories] > > > > Where target is resulting font database file ($prefix/share/fonts/fontmap2 or > > ~/gnome/fonts/fontmap) > > And directories are arbitrary number of directories, containing afm and pfb files. > > > > Or, if using binary packages, your distribution maintainer should have set up > > correct installation process in postinit scripts. > > > > Best wishes, > > Lauris Kaplinski > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2001 19:20:27 +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've installed my whole XFree86 + Gnome-desktop from sources on my > > > Slackware-box, but Gnumeric (0.64) won't work coz it can't find some > > > fonts. I know this is a problem of gnome-print (0.27), and I managed > > > once to install the URW-font package but i don't remember how. Only > > > thing I remember is that I used a manual on the www (anywhere on > > > gnome.org). I already found it again (dunno where exactly) but this time > > > I don't understand it or it just doesn't work. Other problem was that > > > the fonts in that package are few and crappy. Can anyone tell me how to > > > install them anyway? and maybe some other free fonts? > > > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnome-list mailing list > > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From trow@trna.ximian.com Tue Mar 27 17:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from trna.ximian.com (unknown [63.140.225.254]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C52BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from trow@localhost) by trna.ximian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28019; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:01:23 -0500 From: Jon Trowbridge To: Bart Kuik Cc: Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Graphs in Gnumeric Message-ID: <20010327170122.A21095@trna.ximian.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Kuik , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327181557.A5881@audrey> <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103271708.TAA27063@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0000, Bart Kuik wrote: > On 27 Mar 2001 18:15:57 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've done an evaluation of ca. 160 questionnaires with Gnumeric. So > > far, it worked like a charm. It seems, however, that there is, after > > years and years, after the third rewrite of Guppi and an abandoned > > attempt to write a graph component, still no way to generate a graph > > in Gnumeric. > > > > Or am I mistaken? > > > > afaik Guppi is a bonobo-component that's embeddable in Gnumeric.... You > have to compile Gnumeric with '--with-bonobo' enabled (it's not > reccomended for precompiled stuff) and it works great. If I just > remembered how to install the urw-fonts for gnome-print.... This is correct. I don't know what the precise plans are, but the bonobo-enabled gnumeric should be packaged sometime post-1.4. When this happens, the main "entry barrier" to using Guppi with Gnumeric (i.e. the need to build gnumeric from the sources) will have been removed. -JT From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 17:30:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-86-161.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.86.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BFE2BA99 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RMX5s18911 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:33:05 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl>; from kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:45:11PM +0000 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > the Control Center > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from the main config dir) and look for section that starts out __ACLASS __BGN __NAME DESKBINDINGS then find the config lines that look similar to: __NEXT_ACTION __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL __ACTION __A_SHOW_MENU "named ROOT_2" and delete those five or comment them out or change them, whatever. > Dunno, but you'd better run Sawfish. It's also pretty themeable and it's > the standard-wm of Gnome 1.4. In my opinion it's the only one that works > perfectly together with Gnome. All the other ones have double functions, > like the mouse-actions in Enlightenment, or parts of the wm that > conflict with Gnome-panels (WindowMaker dock/clip/miniwindows, big > E-themes with strange bars to emulate a dead OS) and stuff.... > > Bart austin From ash@hobbiton.org Tue Mar 27 18:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hobbiton.org (host-216-78-84-49.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.84.49]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D882BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by darkstar (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f2RNNI729083 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:17 -0500 From: Austin hall To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: some newbie questions. Message-ID: <20010327182317.A28836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010327202805.26865.qmail@linuxmail.org> <200103272046.WAA06792@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010327173305.A18836@darkstar.bellsouth.net>; from meneldil@hobbiton.org on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:33:05PM -0500 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on Tuesday 27 March Austin hall wrote: > on Tuesday 27 March Bart Kuik wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2001 04:28:05 +0800, Peter Berthlin wrote: > > > Hello, i got some gnome questions. > > > > > > 1. How do i make control-center to not start when i startup X and gnome? > > > > get your desktop clean, right-click anywhere on a panel and select: > > Programs -> settings -> session -> save current session. Be sure to turn > > off "Automatically save changes to session" in the Session Options of > > the Control Center > > > > > > > > 2. My mouse buttons brings up enlightenment menus, i dont want that, its very > > > innoying, how do i make it dissapear? > > edit ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg (if it's not there copy it from > the main config dir) and look for section that starts out > __ACLASS __BGN > __NAME DESKBINDINGS > > then find the config lines that look similar to: > __NEXT_ACTION > __TOOLTIP_ACTION_TEXT "Display Enlightenment Menu" > __EVENT __MOUSE_PRESS > __BUTTON 1 __MODIFIER_KEY __CTRL oops, "__MODIFER_KEY __CTRL" won't be there. that's what i did to fix the problem in my own configuration that I copied the example from. austin From shochat@acm.org Tue Mar 27 19:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC22BB38 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from acm.org (IDENT:david@h000102728004.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.242.225]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S0kaU15205; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:46:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AC134BF.2080606@acm.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:47:59 -0500 From: David Shochat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010326 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satish C Kilaru Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <3AC142A2.3717C8EB@netcontinuum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Instructions can be found here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list It's at the bottom of the page ("To change your subscription...") Satish C Kilaru wrote: > Hi All > > Can any body tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list > > Thanks in advance > > Bye > Kilaru > From stefan.mattauch@post.rwth-aachen.de Wed Mar 28 01:51:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from desktop2.home.de (s4m222.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.222]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA3D2BDD0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.rwth-aachen.de (IDENT:a@desktop2.home.de [127.0.0.1]) by desktop2.home.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2S6s9j01297 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC18A91.8D0B9DC1@post.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:09 +0200 From: Stefan Mattauch Reply-To: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: File Dialog References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "Arjan J. Molenaar" wrote: > > Bart Kuik says: > > and in my > > opinion it would be very bad to live on with the old one until the > > release of gtk+ 2.0. I really miss some buttons like > 'desktop', 'home', > > 'back', 'forward', and so on. Only thing that works great is > > filename-completion with . But indeed, a recent files > menu would be > > very useful. > > How should the ideal file-selection box look like? There are some > attempts to make something better on the net, but I don't know how > much of a difference they make. I've seen some discussion about > it on the gtk+ list, but no plans were made to improve the current > file selection box. What should be on the wish-list? gtk+ > style/windows style or maybe NeXTstep style box (I personnaly like > the last one ;-)? The create directory button is handy, so are > home/desktop/back/forward keys. File completion is a very nice > feature and should be preserved IMHO. > > Ideas? Some idea I have is coming form the Acorn-Desktop. I don't wether someone knows these machienes or not, doesn't matter in the end anyway. But there file-selection was quiet simple, because they used the DRAG&DROP mechanism to the end. Just drag a Icon (mime-type) of your file to the place where it should be. Small, simpl and effective!! Editing of the filename or type was possible too. There could be additional things BUT not to much. For creating a directory you should have a good working directory-viewer (gmc, nautilus ... ;-)) (or something new ?)) Stefan Mattauch From jaka@activetools.si Wed Mar 28 03:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from netgate.activetools.si (node1.activetools.si [213.250.28.51]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BBD2D433 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from foo.sys.si.tlan (ai2.activetools.si [213.250.28.49]) by netgate.activetools.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB037282; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from si.tlan (x.dev.si.tlan [172.16.88.131]) by foo.sys.si.tlan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21A2398D; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AC1A1E8.29DD6CCB@si.tlan> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:33:44 +0200 From: Jaka Mocnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: sl, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toralf Lund Cc: Jaka Mocnik , GNOME mailing list Subject: Re: mailcheck applet in IMAP mode sometimes crashes panel References: <3ABF01C4.92F51CB5@kscanners.com> <3ABF07B7.62078092@si.tlan> <3AC03D93.93A6DE43@kscanners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Toralf Lund wrote: > Actually, I tried submitting a bug report via the crash dialogue some time > back. I can't see any traces of it on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/, though, but > I guess I'm just too stupid to be able to find it... no, there is no such bug in bugzilla. I couldn't find it, anyway... regards, jaKa -- w3: http://pluton.ijs.si/~jaka email: jaka@activetools.si From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 03:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.91.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E52CE82 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04356; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:56:32 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:12:26 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: Takeshi Aihana , Murali Kumar , k_anjuta@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, Anjuta 0.1.4 has been released. I am sorry it's a bit late, but that's because I the got deadline on the deadline date! Anjuta does not yet use the Bugzilla for its bug reporting/fixing, so I am reporting the changes here. Anjuta 0.1.4 has be targeted as the bug fixed and more stable stable version of Anjuta (without any feature addition) keeping in mind the release of Gnome-1.4. We have even skipped and shielded Anjuta 0.1.3 from gnome-1.4. because we wanted stable version of Anjuta to be with gnome-1.4. The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the users having old glade from generating project. 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. 7) Debugger now takes program args. 8) Added japanese translation file. 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Follow the following links to get Anjuta 0.1.4: ----------------------------- * Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ * Anjuta Download: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/download.html * Anjuta Screen shots: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/scrshot.html -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Honi soit la vache qui rit. ------------------------------------------------------------- From cardiel@gmx.ch Wed Mar 28 07:39:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 287192CE37 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21887 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Received: from h55p105-2.delphi.afb.lu.se (HELO strych7) (130.235.187.181) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 12:39:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 From: cardie To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Ximian on slackware? Message-Id: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.61 (GTK+ 1.2.9; Linux 2.2.18; i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. cardiel From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Wed Mar 28 07:52:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9DA2DDDF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh2-sub1-13.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@[195.7.143.173]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12099; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200103281252.OAA12099@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Ximian on slackware? From: Bart Kuik To: cardie Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> References: <20010323170517.69AD12E539@mail.gnome.org> <20010327142353.4d24fa71.cardiel@gmx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 14:51:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... Slackware also isn't in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... Bart On 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200, cardie wrote: > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > cardiel > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From jik@foxinternet.net Wed Mar 28 13:15:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8E62D2BF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:14:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > From: cardie > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... And it isn't needed to install programs..... > Slackware also isn't > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. From philippedoucet@hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:18:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1112BB19 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:18:15 -0800 Received: from 24.157.72.219 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.157.72.219] From: "Philippe Doucet" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Bash script question. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2001 19:18:15.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6AFB2A0:01C0B7BB] Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion



I was wondering if someone coul help me. I"m writting a script in redhat 6.2 with bash.

I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a command that will put a white space between each letters of the word.

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From reinhard.mueller@bytewise.at Wed Mar 28 14:34:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from email03.aon.at (WARSL401PIP5.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C292BA9A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5561312 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Received: from n816p010.adsl.highway.telekom.at (HELO bytewise.at) ([62.47.45.234]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC23D08.F48B9ED2@bytewise.at> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:36 +0200 From: Reinhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= Organization: BYTEWISE Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Doucet Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Bash script question. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Philippe Doucet wrote: > I have a file that contains a single word. I"m trying to find a > command that will put a white space between each letters of the word. try: cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g this also puts a whitespace in front of the word. You can remove that by doing cat filename | sed -e "s/./ &/g | sed -e "s/^ //" but I'm sure there are more elegant ways for doing the latter. BTW I don't see anything gnome-specific about this problem :) -- Reinhard Müller BYTEWISE Software GmbH A-6890 Lustenau, Enga 2 http://www.bytewise.at From hobbit@aloss.ukuu.org.uk Wed Mar 28 14:54:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from aloss.ukuu.org.uk (pc80-car17.cable.ntl.com [62.252.63.80]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E682B2BE1B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by aloss.ukuu.org.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2SJvda03379 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 From: Telsa Gwynne To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: xiniman on slack Message-ID: <20010328205739.D1248@aloss.ukuu.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net>; from jik@foxinternet.net on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > From: cardie > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > installer?. http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: You can download pre-rolled tgzs from [1]Poland, or get the [2]binary rpms or [3]source rpms from the Red Hat directory at [4]our ftp site, and install by hand with rpm. Or you can convert them to slack packages with rpm2tgz. And, in a brave trick of hackery, you can fool the graphical installer into thinking you're a Red Hat user. The command: echo "Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)" > /etc/redhat-release has been reported to make the installer work, although you're likely to have difficulty with one or another dependency somewhere. 1. ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/packages/helix 2. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/ 3. ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/distributions/RedHat-6/SRPMS/ > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P > I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. Eh? Ximian just says "here's how to try, but we don't support Slack". Where did Red Hat come into this? I think the GNOME hackers who have never worked at RH might be a little offended at the idea that RH developed all of GNOME. > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... It isn't needed if you want to compile from scratch. It isn't needed if you're using the GNOME packages off Slackware 7.1. It's probably not needed if you grab the rpms or debs and run alien (dunno). It is needed by the Ximian installer though. > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same > guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something > that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". And http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of Slackware was discussed. Which is exactly one week ago. For future reference, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ is a search interface for all the GNOME lists hosted at gnome.org. Telsa From miles@megapathdsl.net Wed Mar 28 16:21:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D553C2BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [64.7.20.33] (HELO megapathdsl.net) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 17978925 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:21:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC25639.DD4F7BA3@megapathdsl.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:23:05 -0800 From: Miles Lane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-ac26 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Have you folks discussed Microsoft HailStorm? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion http://www.microsoft.com/net/hailstorm.asp From landie@concentric.net Wed Mar 28 22:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD42BA99 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA13431; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:48 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from mail.concentric.net (ts009d48.nyh-ny.concentric.net [216.112.237.204]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA20002; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.concentric.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.0 (i386), from userid 500) id ED5EF38507; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:36:51 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: gnome Cc: beta@helixcode.com;;;, suse-list Subject: nautilus Message-ID: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? gnome what, i have helix gnome installed -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Wed Mar 28 22:05:00 EST 2001 From kh_naba@yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 23:47:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (unknown [203.200.165.177]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3582E0A6; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com (IDENT:naba@ws236.nerist.ernet.in [202.141.91.236]) by nirjuli.nerist.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01907; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:12:51 +0530 Message-ID: <3AC2C107.8808B9C5@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:28:48 +0530 From: Naba Kumar Reply-To: kh_naba@yahoo.com Organization: NERIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: gnome-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-list@gnome.org, linux-india-programmers@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org, anjuta-announce@lists.sourceforge.net, anjuta-list@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Anjuta 0.1.4 release for Gnome 1.4 (was Re: Final package deadline for GNOME 1.4) References: <3AC18BA5.C34525DF@yahoo.com> <3AC1A3F1.ABB5C045@yahoo.com> <001a01c0b78e$68d1e8c0$f5616c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." wrote: > Does Anjuta support C++ yet? last I downloaded it, it did not support C++. > If not do you have an rough estimate as to when it will? > That was what I've been afraid of when I skipped Anjuta 0.1.3 from Gnome releases. Actually, the changes I have given is for Anjuta 0.1.4 *wrt* Anjuta 0.1.3. Since, Anjuta 0.1.3 was not announced officially for Gnome (It was announced as the Alpha release for the developers only), I am giving the ChangeLog of Anjuta-0.1.3 *wrt* Anjuta-0.1.2 (which probably is the version you are using right now. The list is a bit long. :-). New in Anjuta 0.1.3 (wrt Anjuta 0.1.2): --------------------------- 1.=> Anjuta now integrates Scintilla editing component: Automatic syntax hilighting (using lexers). Code folding/hiding . Linenumbers/markers display. Text zoomming. Text autocompletion Automatic indentation and indentation guides ... and much more. 2.=> Dynamic Project Management: Anjuta no longer uses the templete based project management. Provides project configuration. Added two more modules in project management: (Help module and Translation module). Added BONOBO support and BONOBO application widzard. Support for C++ prjects. 3.=> Java style Properties management: Now uses Java style properties management. Which makes it highly configurable, both from distributor's and user's side. 4.=> Supports for Other languages added: Java, Perl, Python, LaTeX, ... and others can be user configurable. 5.=> On-Board command editor: Facilates customization of commands used for compiling, building and execution. 6.=> Provides Hilite style editor: Used for custumizing Syntax hiliting style. 7.=> More inteligent messaging system: Now error messages (or messages in general) can be browsed using goto Prev/Next message, goto start/end of block and goto matching braces. 8.=> Bookmarks management: Anjuta has now supported Bookmarks management. 9.=> Debugger: Now breakpoints can be toggled Onboard. Added Run to cursor. Fixed some earlier bugs. 10.=> Added Two more toolbars: Browser toolbar for browsing messages, bookmarks and code blocks. Format toolbar for easy formating of code statements. 11.=> Application GUI: Smarter and more informative status bar. Improved memory to remember Application GUI configuration between sessions. ---------------0-------------------------------- > > > The following Fixes were made in Anjuta 0.1.4: (wrt Anjuta 0.1.3): > >-------------------------------------------- > > > > 1) Vital bug fix in Project Management that inhibits the > > users having old glade from generating project. > > > > 2) Fixed segfault in clean project. > > > > 3) Fixed project dir creation bug. > > > > 4) Fixed double accelerators bug. > > > > 5) Fixed pixmap creation with NULL window. > > > > 6) Fixed i18n bug in menubar. > > > > 7) Debugger now takes program args. > > > > 8) Added japanese translation file. > > > > 9) ... Fixed other minor bugs. Anjuta Home site: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ -- Regards, -Naba ------------------------------------------------------------- Postmen never die, they just lose their zip. ------------------------------------------------------------- From chuck@fiu.edu Thu Mar 29 00:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from spn25c0.fiu.edu (unknown [131.94.68.193]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F092D3A2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fiu.edu ([129.37.230.177]) by spn25c0.fiu.edu (InterMail vK.4.03.03.00 201-232-128 license 840fca18751889914c07c5419b2f6990) with ESMTP id <20010329053903.IHNG19388.spn25c0@fiu.edu> for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500 From: Chuck Organization: FIU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Where are my Icons ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 01:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D941E2BD01 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T6XwH18326; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:33:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Ben FrantzDale To: Chuck Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist --Ben On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Thu Mar 29 02:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ultra.dsea.unipi.it (ultra.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76052BB47 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dsea.unipi.it (IDENT:coppelli@ssdmw.dsea.unipi.it [131.114.30.253]) by ultra.dsea.unipi.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2T7Gg616975 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:16:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200 From: Alessandro Coppelli Reply-To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14smp i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Problem with pager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi to all. I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) when start "startx" I obtain ------ Desk guide Alert Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not running a gnome compliant window manager. Gnome support by the window manager is strongly recommended for proper desk guide operation . ------- I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) Where is the problem ??? Alessandro From kuik@rendo.dekooi.nl Thu Mar 29 02:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (mail.rendo.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC672C8C7 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl (kuik@kabelh3-243.rendo.dekooi.nl [62.229.148.243]) by mail.rendo.dekooi.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01602; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:08:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200103290708.JAA01602@mail.rendo.dekooi.nl> Subject: Re: Where are my Icons ? From: Bart Kuik To: Ben FrantzDale Cc: Chuck , gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> References: <3AC2CB24.CE7D6BD3@fiu.edu> <985836841.5919.0.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 09:06:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If you have a menubar on top of the screen, you can get the tasklist by clicking in the right side of the menubar. The Apple style. If you want a Windows-style taskbar, leftclick on the panel where you want to have it -> panel -> add to panel -> applet -> utility -> tasklist Bart On 28 Mar 2001 22:34:00 -0500, Ben FrantzDale wrote: > Right click->applets->utilities->tasklist > > --Ben > > On 29 Mar 2001 00:41:56 -0500, Chuck wrote: > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to get it back! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From bfrantzdale@hmc.edu Thu Mar 29 02:18:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.ac.hmc.edu (Mail.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438622BAC2 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu (IDENT:ben@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.59.66]) by mail.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2T7IkH19455; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:18:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Problem with pager From: Ben FrantzDale To: Alessandro.Coppelli@dsea.unipi.it Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> References: <3AC2DE3D.15D8723B@dsea.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.26.18.16 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Mar 2001 23:18:48 -0500 Message-Id: <985839528.5919.4.camel@HMC-59-66.ST.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On 29 Mar 2001 09:03:25 +0200, Alessandro Coppelli wrote: > > Hi to all. > > I have this simple problem : ( RedHat 7.0 ) > > when start "startx" I obtain > ------ > Desk guide Alert > > Gnome desktop guide (pager) you are not > running a gnome compliant window manager. > Gnome support by the window manager is strongly > recommended for proper desk guide operation . > > ------- > > I have reinstalled Xfree, sawfish, gnome but nothing. > > I can't work with my PC : all the windows are in top-left and > can't move it ( there isn't the top blue bar ) > > Where is the problem ??? > > Alessandro It looks like you don't have a window manager running. As you may know, the X Windows system needs a program to do with Windows and MacOS do on their own--put a titlebar on windows. If you can, run gnomecc, go to the ``Window Manager'' section and select a window manager (such as Sawfish) then hit OK. All should be well... Out of curiosity, what does your /home/username/.xinitrc file say? --Ben From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 12:05:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 181BA2DC6C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from 63.193.165.34 by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:05:12 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman , gnome Cc: , suse-list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to nautilus-list@eazel.com. John From jik@foxinternet.net Thu Mar 29 13:16:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailsite.foxinternet.net (mail.foxinternet.net [208.8.213.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AE82BAFB for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from foxinternet.net (unverified [24.19.238.42]) by mailsite.foxinternet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3AC37CAA.75678081@foxinternet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:19:22 -0800 From: Noah Roberts X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2lpp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome on slack References: <20010329170517.4C81F2DC73@mail.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > _-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:57:39 +0100 > From: Telsa Gwynne > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: xiniman on slack > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:18:32AM -0800 or thereabouts, Noah Roberts wrote: > > > From: cardie > > > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload > > the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know > > how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical > > installer?. > > http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/slack.html might help: Yeah, the polond site doesn't seem to respond....little too far away me thinks. In fact it never responded during this whole letter. > > The tarballs that you find at http://download.gnome.org are taken > directly from CVS. That's pretty central. All the distros take those > as the base for their packages and then tweak and then build. > Distro-provided packages are pretty central, too, if you meant > "central source for packager" rather than "central source for code". Well download.gnome.org looks exactly the same as the rest of the mirrors. We have some packages in stable and other packages in unstable. packages in unstable require packages in stable and some programs which are not even at this site. Since all distros have 1.2 afaik, and most of the packages being developed for gnome right now require bonobo....it is pretty pointless messing with stable. When I downloaded gnome from that section and took it home on CD I got there and found that I didn't have the "unstable gnome", I had a few semi-related unstable programs. Sometimes the configure file knew I had the wrong package....many times it didn't....there is no list of packages that these programs depend on (in README you can usually find the things you need to compile a program...not so with gnome programs).... Even after I downloaded ALL of stable and unstable I found I did not have all of gnome! I had to go hunt down other packages at redhat.com and freshmeat.....which is just rediculous for an integrated system. So these things need to happen 1. all files that are needed to set up gnome need to be in a single directory...one for stable the other for Beta or alpha. Sure there will be some redundancy, but so what....this makes your system easier to use. 2. All programs in gnome should specify in the README all of the other programs that need to be installed before it....this is common practice I don't know why gnome developers aren't doing it. 3. Why are there so many core components to gnome NOT in gnome-core???? When I install something that says *-core I expect that I have the base system installed, what is left are *optional*, it is that way with KDE, it is that way with gnustep....why is it not so with Gnome? > > > And > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2001-March/msg00313.html > contains an up to date order for compiling the lot from tarballs > on Slackware from Barthel the last time the subject of GNOME of > Slackware was discussed. Yes, I saw that....in fact that will clarify my point....you have to go to a mail list to get directions to compile Gnome....even if you know what your doing. Gnome IS the hardest system I have ever seen to compile, there are so many standard things just not done here. That is why I said it appears it was done on purpose....thinking back to other difficult compiles (old Wine, DosEmu, XFree86 the first time) all of them had good documentation and directions for the compile and setup procedures.....even for alpha trees. Yeah, KDE sucks.....but I think Gnome could take some lessons from KDE when it come to source packaging! From jfonde@fr.inter.net Thu Mar 29 18:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from clever.visp-europe.psi.com (clever.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC62BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ip56.velizy2.pub-ip.fr.psi.net ([154.15.21.56] helo=jfonde) by clever.visp-europe.psi.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ilWx-0004Gj-00 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:08:39 +0200 From: Ondedieu JF Reply-To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Organization: Particulier To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Normal case icon names on desktop Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into Times-like NORMAL. Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. Could some body help me ?? Thanks -- --------------------------------------------------- JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU jfonde@fr.inter.net --------------------------------------------------- From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 18:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B912BAB4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA22841; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts006d16.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.28]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA17967; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:42:46 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010328223651.A19559@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion here is the error completely hope you can help loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes checking if gcc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool loading cache ./config.cache checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes checking for orbit-config... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes checking for orbit-idl... /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl Determining mount system properties: checking for setmntent... yes checking for endmntent... yes checking for mntent.h... yes checking for sys/mnttab.h... no checking for sys/vfstab.h... no checking for sys/cdio.h... no checking for /dev... yes checking for /vol/dev... no checking for /vol... no checking for /etc/mnttab... no checking for /proc/mounts... yes checking for /proc/1... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for unsetenv... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for asm/vm86.h... yes checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes checking for FT_Init_FreeType in -lfreetype... yes checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... yes checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no checking for xpcom... yes checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in -lgtksuperwin... no checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in -lgtkembedmoz... no checking for Mozilla... no checking for bzread in -lbz2... no checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes checking for gnome-config... /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes checking for additional GNOME modules... *** gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better is required. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > what are they referring to? > > > > gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > > > > Could you repeat the exact message? This sounds like a miscommunication > somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK 1.2.9? > > Also, you're more likely to get a knowledgeable answer if you post to > nautilus-list@eazel.com. > > John > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 18:05:00 EST 2001 From sullivan@eazel.com Thu Mar 29 19:19:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from nobody-knows-anything.com (bentspoon.com [204.80.111.98]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA5B82BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-63-193-165-34.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.193.165.34] by nobody-knows-anything.com; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:19:28 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 Subject: Re: nautilus From: John Sullivan To: Landy Roman Cc: , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in this line: > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library you're missing. John on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > here is the error completely hope you can > help > > > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for a BSD compatible install... > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for working aclocal... found > checking for working autoconf... found > checking for working automake... found > checking for working autoheader... found > checking for working makeinfo... found > checking whether to enable > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > no > checking host system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking build system type... > i686-pc-linux-gnu > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > (cached) yes > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > /usr/bin/nm -B > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking for object suffix... o > checking for executable suffix... no > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > -fPIC > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > -fno-exceptions ... yes > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > -static > checking if the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > yes > checking whether the linker > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > libraries... yes > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > output... ok > checking how to hardcode library paths into > programs... immediate > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > option to reload object files... -r > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > Linux ld.so > checking if libtool supports shared > libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... > yes > checking whether to build static libraries... > no > checking for objdir... .libs > creating libtool > loading cache ./config.cache > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > checking whether build environment is sane... > yes > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > works... yes > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > is a cross-compiler... no > checking whether we are using GNU C... > (cached) yes > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > yes > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > -E > checking for a BSD compatible install... > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > (cached) yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for esd-config... > /usr/bin/esd-config > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > checking for orbit-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > checking for orbit-idl... > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > Determining mount system properties: > > checking for setmntent... yes > checking for endmntent... yes > checking for mntent.h... yes > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > checking for /dev... yes > checking for /vol/dev... no > checking for /vol... no > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > checking for setenv... yes > checking for unsetenv... yes > checking for putenv... yes > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > -lfreetype... yes > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > yes > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > checking for xpcom... yes > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > -lgtksuperwin... no > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > -lgtkembedmoz... no > checking for Mozilla... no > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > checking for glib-config... > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gtk-config... > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > checking for gnome-config... > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > John Sullivan wrote: > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > landie@concentric.net wrote: >> >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 >> what are they referring to? >>> >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed >>> >> >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > sounds like a miscommunication >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > 1.2.9? >> >> Also, you're more likely to get a > knowledgeable answer if you post to >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. >> >> John >> >> > From landie@concentric.net Thu Mar 29 20:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC682BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA03830; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:22 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from virtuoso (ts007d20.hil-ny.concentric.net [206.173.16.80]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA29744; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500 From: Landy Roman To: John Sullivan Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org, beta@helixcode.com;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: nautilus Message-Id: <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Organization: DespiertaPr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does not find it On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:23:40 -0800 John Sullivan wrote: > OK, that message is indeed quite confusing. The real error is indicated in > this line: > > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > gnomecanvaspixbuf is part of gdk-pixbuf, so that seems to be the library > you're missing. > > John > > on 3/29/01 3:42 PM, Landy Roman at landie@concentric.net wrote: > > > here is the error completely hope you can > > help > > > > > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > (cached) /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for working aclocal... found > > checking for working autoconf... found > > checking for working automake... found > > checking for working autoheader... found > > checking for working makeinfo... found > > checking whether to enable > > maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... > > no > > checking host system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking build system type... > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a > > cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) > > /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > (cached) yes > > checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) > > /usr/bin/nm -B > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking for object suffix... o > > checking for executable suffix... no > > checking for gcc option to produce PIC... > > -fPIC > > checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes > > checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes > > checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti > > -fno-exceptions ... yes > > checking if gcc static flag -static works... > > -static > > checking if the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... > > yes > > checking whether the linker > > (/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B > > output... ok > > checking how to hardcode library paths into > > programs... immediate > > checking for /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld > > option to reload object files... -r > > checking dynamic linker characteristics... > > Linux ld.so > > checking if libtool supports shared > > libraries... yes > > checking whether to build shared libraries... > > yes > > checking whether to build static libraries... > > no > > checking for objdir... .libs > > creating libtool > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > > checking whether build environment is sane... > > yes > > checking for gcc... (cached) gcc > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > works... yes > > checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) > > is a cross-compiler... no > > checking whether we are using GNU C... > > (cached) yes > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) > > yes > > checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc > > -E > > checking for a BSD compatible install... > > /usr/bin/ginstall -c > > checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes > > checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... > > (cached) yes > > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > > checking for esd-config... > > /usr/bin/esd-config > > checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... yes > > checking for orbit-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-config > > checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes > > checking for orbit-idl... > > /opt/gnome/bin/orbit-idl > > > > Determining mount system properties: > > > > checking for setmntent... yes > > checking for endmntent... yes > > checking for mntent.h... yes > > checking for sys/mnttab.h... no > > checking for sys/vfstab.h... no > > checking for sys/cdio.h... no > > checking for /dev... yes > > checking for /vol/dev... no > > checking for /vol... no > > checking for /etc/mnttab... no > > checking for /proc/mounts... yes > > checking for /proc/1... yes > > > > > > checking for setenv... yes > > checking for unsetenv... yes > > checking for putenv... yes > > checking for asm/vm86.h... yes > > checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes > > checking for FT_Init_FreeType in > > -lfreetype... yes > > checking for pam_authenticate in -lpam... yes > > checking for pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... > > yes > > checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... no > > checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... no > > checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... no > > checking for xpcom... yes > > checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in > > -lgtksuperwin... no > > checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in > > -lgtkembedmoz... no > > checking for Mozilla... no > > checking for bzread in -lbz2... no > > checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes > > checking for glib-config... > > /usr/local/bin/glib-config > > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gtk-config... > > /usr/local/bin/gtk-config > > checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.9... yes > > checking for gnome-config... > > /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-config > > checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.8... yes > > checking for additional GNOME modules... *** > > gnomecanvaspixbuf library is not installed > > configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.8 or better > > is required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:09:24 -0800 > > John Sullivan wrote: > > > >> on 3/28/01 7:36 PM, Landy Roman at > > landie@concentric.net wrote: > >> > >>> when nautilus tells me i need gnome 1.2.8 > >> what are they referring to? > >>> > >>> gnome what, i have helix gnome installed > >>> > >> > >> Could you repeat the exact message? This > > sounds like a miscommunication > >> somewhere. Are you sure it wasn't GTK > > 1.2.9? > >> > >> Also, you're more likely to get a > > knowledgeable answer if you post to > >> nautilus-list@eazel.com. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > > > > -- SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.4.2 i686 Thu Mar 29 20:05:00 EST 2001 From mchamp@texas.net Thu Mar 29 20:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mw3.texas.net (mw3.texas.net [206.127.30.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A6C2E274 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net (tcnet02-215.dallas.texas.net [209.99.92.152]) by mw3.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2U1Fei21645 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:15:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:28:36 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Champagne X-Sender: mchamp@nimrod To: Gnome General Mailing List Subject: How do I delete menu items? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in it. Thanks! Mike From michaelv@cox-internet.com Thu Mar 29 23:41:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from io.cox-internet.com (io-cox.cox-internet.com [208.180.118.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B42BB74 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com ([206.96.192.193]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license d1ebd4f8b91132ed01cf0e3e933da025) with ESMTP id <20010330044007.RNKL25449.io@cdm-192-193-vict.cox-internet.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:40:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop From: Michael Thomas To: jfonde@fr.inter.net Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9+cvs.2001.03.29.09.06 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:46:38 -0600 Message-Id: <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus prefrences. Hope this helps. On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > Times-like NORMAL. > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > Could some body help me ?? > > Thanks > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 08:46:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1C02BBE7 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-168.aculink.net [204.118.157.168]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UDkma07829 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id GAA24664 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301347.GAA24664@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Keeping Terminal Open Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Is it possible to keep gnome-terminal open after it has automatically executed a program with --execute? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From deedsmis@aculink.net Fri Mar 30 11:07:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DABF2E01D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-133.aculink.net [204.118.157.133]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2UG81a18676 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from redneck@localhost) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) id JAA06936 for Gnome-List (Request) ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:08:32 -0700 Message-Id: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> X-no-archive: yes From: SoloCDM Subject: Blocking Access Reply-To: , To: Gnome-List (Request) Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From olau@hardworking.dk Fri Mar 30 12:36:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4792BACE for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: from 35.ppp1-1.ski.worldonline.dk (HELO bach.composers) (212.54.89.35) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 17:36:22 -0000 Received: (from ole@localhost) by bach.composers (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2UGBdB01281; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:11:39 +0200 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: nautilus References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> From: Ole Laursen Date: 30 Mar 2001 18:11:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Landy Roman's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion > strange but i do have gdk_pix from helix so i dont know why it does > not find it Do you have the gdk-pixbuf-devel package too? You probably need that to compile anything pixbuf related. BTW, please cut out some of the citation when you answer - duplicating the entire message is superfluous and it makes it harder to follow a thread (thus enlarging the risk that people will just ignore the message). -- Ole Laursen http://sunsite.dk/olau/ From lee@imyourhandiman.com Fri Mar 30 16:06:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zephyr.host4u.net (zephyr.host4u.net [216.71.64.66]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4331D2BB19 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imyourhandiman.com (c1347127-a.bllvu1.wa.home.com [65.4.166.51]) by zephyr.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20706 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:03:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3AC4F3C7.6824B986@imyourhandiman.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:59:51 -0800 From: lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "gnome-list@gnome.org" Subject: gnome core's References: <20010329184246.0cc6be62.landie@concentric.net> <20010329201320.24832e98.landie@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion i understand that gnome has some "issues" with core's........sometimes when I start into gnome desktop even not starting an app yet.....my HD spins out of controll...okay well you get idea :)...and sometimes doesn't stop for several minutes......this troubles me...why does it do this is there a probable cause or just something thats being addressed or my particular configuration since installing...... i heard on another list i think it was about this that someone else has this going on and wanted to ask if there was anything I could do for now to help minimize this waste of HD useage :).. thanks :) lee -=== From bob@thestuff.net Fri Mar 30 16:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ida.net (mail.ida.net [204.228.203.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674B12BCA5 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5of9.H.TheStuff.net) (208.141.171.197) by mail.ida.net with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 21:14:22 -0000 Subject: Re: xiniman on slack From: Bob Smith To: Noah Roberts Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> References: <20010328170502.745D42E334@mail.gnome.org> <3AC22AF8.789F0C59@foxinternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.9 (Preview Release) Date: 30 Mar 2001 15:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <985990383.22561.0.camel@5of9.H.TheStuff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion No, its posible that its due to the fact that since slack has no real package management system (no, tarballs arent packages), that slack users should be use to compileing. If they didnt like compileing, they wouldnt use slack. Probably the real reason is that it would take considerable extra time to make slack tarball packages because slack is so different from the other distros. RPM or DEB is very common amung all distro's. Slacks tgz's are not. On 28 Mar 2001 10:18:32 -0800, Noah Roberts wrote: > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:23:53 +0200 > > From: cardie > > To: gnome-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Ximian on slackware? > > > > Hi, I have tried to install ximian on slackware 7.1 , but when i dowload the installer and runs it i get a msg " unknown platform". Someone know how to install with slack and if there are packages instead of graphical installer?. > > Apperently the gnome people feel us slackers should change OS :P I suppose that is what we get for using a platform developed by RH. > > > They don't support Slackware because there ain't a solid packaging > > system that checks for dependencies and stuff.... > > And it isn't needed to install programs..... > > > Slackware also isn't > > in the list of supported platforms for Gnome. But if you've got the time > > and the patience to compile the stuff from source (and you will if you > > run Slackware :-) ), it works fine on 7.1.... > > www.linuxmafia.org has some gnome packages.....all compiled by the same guy so you can actually track them to a *centralised source* (something that is not possible when you try to install gnome from the source). I asked him if he > plans on packaging 1.4 when it is released and he said he does. > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From dmcglone@ameritech.net Fri Mar 30 17:43:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.col.ameritech.net (mpdr0.columbus.oh.ameritech.net [206.141.239.62]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0F2BAB6 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([64.108.99.60]) by mailhost.col.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20010330224350.EWKH7459.mailhost.col.ameritech.net@default>; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> From: "David M." To: , References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> Subject: Re: Blocking Access Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:42:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion don't give them the root password. David M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SoloCDM" To: "Gnome-List (Request)" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Blocking Access > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? > > Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing > list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. > > ********************************************************************* > Signed, > SoloCDM > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:54:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9DE2BA99 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V13gC31288; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:03:41 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Thomas Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commander code (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a constant defined as this: #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #else #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" #endif Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc source hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting ? My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; But I could be wrong ... If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The color is customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Michael Thomas wrote: > If GMC is being used to draw the desktop then this should be controlled > by the gtk+ theme. Go to control-panel and set a custom font in the > theme selector applet. If nautilus is being used to draw the desktop > "wich will soon be the default" then use the font setting in Nautilus > prefrences. > > Hope this helps. > > On 30 Mar 2001 04:49:08 +0200, Ondedieu JF wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find how to change the case for the icon names on the desktop. > > Actually, the case is Helvetica-like BOLD and I wish to change it into > > Times-like NORMAL. > > Of course, I didn't find any utility to do that, and I have experienced a lot > > of trouble experimenting many commands in the gtkrc file. I've tried what was > > written in the FAQ regarding the color, but did not succeed too. > > > > Could some body help me ?? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > JEAN-FRANCOIS ONDEDIEU > > > > jfonde@fr.inter.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM Fri Mar 30 20:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from rcsnet.net (APuteaux-102-2-1-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.91.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC2DDF1 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Cohen-Scali.COM (IDENT:rcoscali@dns.rcsnet.net [192.168.1.50]) by rcsnet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2V18sC31317; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC52E25.99F32FB4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:08:53 +0200 From: Remi Cohen-Scali Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-nfsv3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA, fr-CH, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Champagne Cc: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: How do I delete menu items? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Search in /usr/share/gnome/apps. Some are here. Some others seems to be dynamicaly rebuild at run time (the ones that are absolutly mandatory for panel to run ...??? ). Have a look in panel code to be sure. Michael Champagne wrote: > There are some system menu items I simply can't remove. I don't see them when > I run gmenu at all. Does anyone know how I can get rid of these? I deleted > my applications folder in gmenu but I still have it with a couple of apps in > it. Thanks! > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- Remi Cohen-Scali _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ / Development engineer _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ International Center for Network Computing _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Network Service Provider Division _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Phone: +33-139-447-509 x44509 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ E-mails: Remi.Cohen-Scali@Sun.COM M I C R O S Y S T E M S Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM WAPmail: Remi.CohenScali@Itineris.Net From knghtbrd@galen.magenet.net Fri Mar 30 21:59:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from galen.magenet.net (63-224-228-227.customers.uswest.net [63.224.228.227]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47D2BC2D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by galen.magenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D9513F8; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:26 -0800 From: Joseph Carter To: Remi Cohen-Scali Cc: Michael Thomas , gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Normal case icon names on desktop Message-ID: <20010330185926.B3265@debian.org> References: <01033004552500.01047@jfonde> <985927611.31887.0.camel@dragonsfly> <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3AC52CED.F1702EA4@Cohen-Scali.COM>; from Remi@Cohen-Scali.COM on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200 X-Operating-System: Linux galen 2.4.2-ac26 X-No-Junk-Mail: Spam will solicit a hostile reaction, at the very least. Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 03:03:41AM +0200, Remi Cohen-Scali wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think so for mc. According the gnome midnight commande= r code > (icon widget header gdesktop-icon.h), the desktop icons' font is a consta= nt > defined as this: >=20 > #if OLD_DESKTOP_FONT > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*= ," \ > "-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #else > #define DESKTOP_ICON_FONT \ > "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-*-*-p-*-*-*," \ > "-*-*-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" > #endif >=20 > Does this implies the font for the icons is fixed forever (unless mc sour= ce > hacking of course). Does the gtk themes settings affect this hard setting= ? > My observations leads me to answer to the previous questions: yes - no; > But I could be wrong ... > If anyone knows a way for customizing icons font, please tell me ... The = color is > customizable through gtk themes, isn't it ? Color's easy. Font is a source hack only. Further proof that gmc is evil beyond belief. --=20 Joseph Carter Free software developer "Yes, your honour, I have RSA encryption code tattood on my penis. Shall I show the jury?" --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: 1024D/DCF9DAB3 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 iEYEARECAAYFAjrFSA4ACgkQj/fXo9z52rMhrwCfdsmqmRV6+d8TF6b5TrRoCWVG dI0An1DXT92xcoP7VkQoiLW5QzgAuGwy =kr1B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From deedsmis@aculink.net Sat Mar 31 12:58:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from ganymede.aculink.net (ganymede.aculink.net [216.206.210.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3344D2BCBC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (IDENT:root@204-118-157-98.aculink.net [204.118.157.98]) by ganymede.aculink.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2VHwfg07800; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from aculink.net (IDENT:redneck@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net [192.168.20.1]) by cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ver) with ESMTP id KAA12204; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:59:12 -0700 From: SoloCDM Reply-To: deedsmis@aculink.net, gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David M." Cc: "Gnome-List (Request)" Subject: Re: Blocking Access References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion "David M." stated the following: > > don't give them the root password. I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SoloCDM" > > > When a user is in their account using X, is there a way to keep > > them from accessing Settings, System, ...? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address in Cc: and my email address in To:. ********************************************************************* Signed, SoloCDM From larry@marso.com Sat Mar 31 13:13:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from max.worldcontrol.com (unknown [206.112.124.221]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8295A2DC07 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17696 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2001 18:18:54 -0000 From: larry@marso.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:18:54 -0800 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: bonobo CORBA exception "COMM_FAILURE" nautilus Message-ID: <20010331101854.A17691@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Any suggestions on the following? Thanks. On a Redhat 7.0 system, if I run nautilus as root (horror!) it works great in web browsing mode. As user, I get the following failure in the console, and "Web Page can't continue" in a dialog box: Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on realize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' Bonobo-WARNING **: Exception on unrealize 'Unknown CORBA exception id: 'IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0'' ** WARNING **: A view failed. The UI will handle this with a dialog but this should be debugged. . From famrom@idecnet.com Sat Mar 31 13:29:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from blitzkrieg.battleship (3-MADR-X24.libre.retevision.es [62.83.13.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBFF2BC43 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from unnamed@localhost) by blitzkrieg.battleship (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01521; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: blitzkrieg.battleship: unnamed set sender to famrom@idecnet.com using -f Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:29:13 +0200 From: "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" To: gnome-list@gnome.org Cc: deedsmis@aculink.net Subject: Re: Blocking Access Message-ID: <20010331202913.A1515@blitzkrieg.battleship> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-list@gnome.org, deedsmis@aculink.net References: <200103301608.JAA06936@cdm01.deedsmiscentral.net> <001901c0b96a$c2306f80$3c636c40@default> <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3AC61AF0.E6A12164@aculink.net>; from deedsmis@aculink.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:59:12AM -0700 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion deedsmis@aculink.net (2001-03-31 at 1059.12 -0700): > > don't give them the root password. > I'm referring to the Menu Settings, System, ... for personal options. Two options: - change the binaries to be only executable by a group, and only put on it those people you want to allow. Radical and could derive in "GNOME sucks, the manual says this and it does not work" or worse. - teach your users not to fuck up things. They can only break their own items, normally people do not want that. And if they break it, they learn, it is like kids and painful things (with basic difference that IIRC GNOME is not lethal as a gas kitchen can be). I see few reasons for the radical approach. Even demo installs can avoid it with the advantage of begin full working demos, like removing config and creating a new one in each login. So I see zero reasons, ATM. I would like to know what really is so important to force things, which can create other problems (eye problems, ie) or unhappiness ("my boss is dictator", ie), vs freedom. Please share the reason. GSR From rodolfo.borges@mail.com Fri Mar 30 01:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from panther.unisys.com.br (panther.unisys.com.br [200.220.64.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6432BCA5; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.com ([146.164.9.150]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2U6mAv05377; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:48:11 -0300 (BDB) X-Spam-Filter: check_local@panther.unisys.com.br by digitalanswers.org Message-ID: <3AC42C9C.AF3ABFD7@mail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:50:04 -0300 From: rodolfo.borges@mail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-list@gnome.org, sawmill@aarg.net, gnome-gui-list@gnome.org Subject: integrating cmdline and gui Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion An idea for gnome panel: (or any gui that have buttons/menus to run programs) The problem is that we don't see the stdout/stderr of the X programs. Of course we could run them from a command line, but we don't know a priori when we will like to see the output, and it would be a total mess to have one xterm for every X process. :) The solution is the launcher (the panel, or file manager, whatever) to redirect the stderr to a temp file like /tmp/xproc/.stderr An applet could give the user easy access to this information. Another cool feature: filters. The launchers could have an additional properties page called "output log" with: - A check button to save the log - Another check button to apply the list of filters - A list of filters (with new/edit/del buttons) Each filter have a regular expression (or just a simple string and 'case' checkbox) and action(s) to be performed on a hit: beep, display a msgbox, whatever. -- Rodolfo.Borges@mail.com From mike@cyborg-group.com Thu Mar 29 07:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5572BBE4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14iZfN-00021Z-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:33 +0100 Subject: gnome ftp server- seriously hacking me off From: mike To: Sarah Mount Cc: David A Knight , Gnome General Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 29 Mar 2001 13:10:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Can someone please explain WHY the ftp server insists that your email and IP address match When you are behind a firewall they dont for obvious reasons This is NOT a problem with any other ftp server I am aware of From fabiofb@facilit.com.br Thu Mar 29 01:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from servidor_ecos.xpti (facilit.com.br [200.249.140.26]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5052E135 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by servidor-ecos.xpti with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: Fabio Gomes To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: RES: Where are my Icons ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:45:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion 1. Right click the panel 2. Click: Add to panel -> applets -> utilities -> task list []s Fabio Gomes de Souza Facilit Tecnologia fabiofb@facilit.com.br > -----Mensagem original----- > De: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-list-admin@gnome.org]Em > nome de Chuck > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 29 de marco de 2001 02:42 > Para: gnome-list@gnome.org > Assunto: Where are my Icons ? > > > This is really dumb, but I can't find the icons when I minimize a > window. What'd I do wrong ? Also, I used to have a list of tasks on > the main panel but I deleted it an now I don't know how to > get it back! > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > From foobar@clara.co.uk Wed Mar 28 06:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gaea (gaea.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.101]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77E2CEDC for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from claranet by gaea with local (Exim 3.11 #1) id 14iDx9-000OQa-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 To: gnome-list@gnome.org Reply-To: list-01@foobar.clara.co.uk Subject: Missing applets and icons are black (Debian 2.2 / X 4.0.2) Cc: X-Remote_Addr: 62.136.246.89 Message-Id: From: Bernard Boudet Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:17:27 +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hi, I think my installation is botched, but I can't figure out what is wrong except that paths seem to be screwed up somehow. This is Debian 2.2 stable with 2.2.17 kernel, and X v4.0.2 compiled from source. Sorry, I don't know how to tell what revision of GNOME, but I downloaded and installed it yesterday using `lynx -source http://go- gnome.com/ | sh', and I chose the full-install option. The same problems were also happening with GNOME installed from Debian 2.2, which is why I upgraded. The GNOME desktop fires up with GNU Midnight Commander ok, but " Commands | Edit mime types..." does nothing. The Gnome Help Browser also starts up, but says "Could not load default TOC page". The main panel at the bottom of the screen, only shows 3 buttons - Menu, Log out and Lock screen. These are all white text on a black background. There is nothing else on the main panel. Clicking Menu pops up a menu with Programs, Favorites, Applets, Debian menus, Run..., Panel, and Log out. The Applets item has no submenus. At the top of the screen there is a bar with Programs, Favorites, Settings and Desktop. The Applets item under Programs has no submenu, and clicking it does nothing. The Settings menu is empty. Clicking "Programs | Debian menus | Apps | System | Gnome Control Center" does nothing. Running gnomecc from the command line gives this error: ~$ gnomecc ** WARNING **: No configuration applets were found. This probably means that either the control-center or GNOME is incorrectly installed. ~$ locate applet | wc --lines 1120 I've tried `rm -rf ~/.gnome*' but this does not help. I have the files .xinitrc and .xsession in my home directory: #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xinitrc # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session #!/bin/sh ######################################################################## ###### # ~/.xsession # exec /usr/bin/gnome-session The problems are the same, whether starting my session with startx or from gdm. Before uprading GNOME, I used xdm and the problem happened with that too. I have set the Debian default window manager to Enlightenment, but but X session runs as Sawfish (this is only a minor annoyance, I know I could fix it with gnomecc if it would run). ~$ /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/enlightenment /usr/bin/enlightenment - priority 50 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/enlightenment.1.gz /usr/bin/sawfish - priority 20 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/enlightenment. Please ask for specific info if I missed something, but otherwise - Help! From Michael.Garza@getronics.com Wed Mar 28 05:15:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from res02wnt246.corp.wang.com (fwus1.us.getronics.com [192.84.63.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528E2E034 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by res02wnt246.corp.wang.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Garza, Michael" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Gnome through x windows? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Hello, I'm relatively new to Unix, and I need some help before I start on this task.. I would like to know if Gnome can be pulled up through an x server for Windows such as Exceed? I have a Sun Netra X1 at home with no framebuffer and I'd like to have an x desktop pulled up. We use HPOV pulled through Exceed at work, and I know this is possible with plain x windows, but I'm not sure if Gnome will work. Also any help with getting a regular x desktop pulled up would be greatly appreciated. Michael Garza Network Analyst Getronics ICTC From RiNilsson@keyww.com Tue Mar 27 10:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from gossip.keyww.com (exchange-key.bmi.net [207.173.63.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A722D629 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by Gossip with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:35:11 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Nilsson, Rik" To: "'gnome-list@gnome.org'" Subject: Invisible panel on LinuxPPC Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion For whatever reason, my user-account initial panel in LinuxPPC has become invisible. The user has a background jpg displayed and is using WindowMaker. The panel config includes the defaults plus modem-lites and some application launchers. At each login I am alerted that "...a panel is already running, do you wish to start another?" I have to reply "Yes" and then I get a right-edge vertical panel duplicating the customized configuration. The original panel never becomes visible. For this session then, the panel functions normally. I've seen answers to other posts saying to delete .gnome directories. No matter how many times I remove all the user's Gnome "."-directories it always does this on subsequent logins to this user account. If I terminate the panel job with "kill -9 id", the panel restarts but is still not visible. Typing "panel" at the prompt of course, always results in the above alert that there is already... My root account and another "guest" account do not exhibit this behavior, so I am inclined to think the main Gnome program is not dysfunctional, that the problem is in the user directory. Before I remove and re-create the entire user directory, I thought I'd ask if there is something I am overlooking. Rik From mike@cyborg-group.com Mon Mar 26 07:26:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from mail1.mailshot (unknown [62.49.135.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D282DBCA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.125] (helo=[192.168.10.125]) by mail1.mailshot with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1 (Debian)) id 14hUYz-0006zE-00 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:49:29 +0100 Subject: ftp server access From: mike To: gnome-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <200102271933.UAA11952@email.enst.fr> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution (0.9/+cvs.2001.03.07.09.05 - Preview Release) Date: 26 Mar 2001 13:31:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion Ther last time I tried to accessthe gnome ftp server I was refused access. It stated that my IP address and my e-mail address did not match so refused connection I am on an ADSL link with a an e-mail address off hosted web space so obviously my e-mail address will not match. Is there any way round this From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0852CF1B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9ZuW03130; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:35:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:20:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones From jirka@zinc.5z.com Thu Mar 22 04:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-list@gnome.org Received: from zinc.5z.com (zinc.5z.com [64.23.60.156]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ADE2E0F1; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zinc.5z.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2M9nfS03175; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:49:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:14 -0800 From: George To: Matthias Warkus <>, gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Urgent: Info needed for paper: What exactly is new in 1.4 Message-ID: <20010322012014.B1601@julia.linux.bogus> Mail-Followup-To: George , Matthias Warkus , gnome-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20010320134641.A473@audrey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010320134641.A473@audrey>; from mawarkus@t-online.de on Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100 Sender: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: General discussion On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:46:41PM +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote: > - Better panel functionality (I need details on this) I suppose I'm somewhat qualified to say stuff about this, but I'm sure I forgot a tun of stuff here. * Edge panels now don't overlap if they end in the same corner * Property dialogs are now immediate effect * Scrollable long menus * Foobar has a tasklist menu * Panels better follow theme * Standard window layer is now possible and in fact default for panels * Per panel maximize avoidance setting * Nicer applet dragging * New menu to add launchers to panel * Support urls in run dialog * Automatic menu rereading can be turned off if your menus are on nfs or something utterly slow * Can set up a custom menu icon * New easter eggs * Lots of bugfixes * Others I forgot George -- George I wanna be sedated. -- Ramones