From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460E518519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.capital.lv (ns.luxcontrol.lv [195.13.243.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025B418832 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dinozaurs ([192.168.200.60]) by mail.capital.lv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:33 +0300 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Pavels Nikolajevs Reply-To: pavels@capital.lv To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI" Organization: Capital Message-Id: <1065186427.12574.2.camel@dinozaurs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2003 13:04:33.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3C996A0:01C389AE] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:07:07 +0300 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: 
Application
===========

Gnome Multires 0.4

Description
===========

Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of
desktop resolution and refresh rate.

Enhancements
============
Add Xrandr support

Download
========

http://multires.sourceforge.net

GNOME Software Map entry
========================

http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires

_______________________________________________
gnome-announce-list mailing list
gnome-announce-list@gnome.org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list
--=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8418519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EFF186F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 417); 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from dbraylaptop.health-first.org ([208.143.232.66]) (AUTH: LOGIN thelupine@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Lupine Reply-To: thelupine@evilfucker.com To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Message-Id: <1065187288.858.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:21:28 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list > Very nice applet!!!! Thanks!!!! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Thu Oct 9 07:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7918892; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-12.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 496ED18877 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8459 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 11:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.perkypants.org) (203.217.23.133) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 11:24:53 -0000 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89E3C89; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02E6112B6F5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 Message-ID: <20031009112509.GK21801@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6 i686 Reply-By: Sun Oct 12 21:17:40 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:17:40 up 7 days, 1:59, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey hey crazy kids! IT'S RELEASE TIME AGAIN! In the Great and Wise words of Wayne and Garth... "A Schedule Says 'What'?" ... This time around, a schedule says that GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 tarballs are due on Monday, October 13th! That's next week! Schedule: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ Calendar with today and October 13th highlighted: October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9)10 11 <- TODAY! 12(13)14 15 16 17 18 <- TARBALLS DUE! 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Thanks! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary." - mpt _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1018837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (yonge.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.1.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEADD18364 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jane.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.31]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <199803-19411>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:48 -0400 Received: from qew.cs.toronto.edu by jane.cs.toronto.edu id <453283-20154>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:39 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod X-X-Sender: behdad@qew.cs To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 In-Reply-To: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Message-ID: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Michael Meeks wrote: > OpenOffice.org build: > > This package contains the Gnome integration work for > OpenOffice.org, and a much simplified build wrapper, making an OO.o > build / install possible for the common man.[1] It is a staging ground > for up-streaming patches to OO.o. Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same thing that is going to be in Fedora? My main question follows. > Changes in this release: > + features > + new, sized, alpha fixed icons (Tigert, Jimmac) > + scroll-wheel quickhelp less annoying (Michael) > + system-zlib, system-getopt (from Mdk, Rene) > + nice bonobo component (Martin Kretzchmar) > + configure with --enable-bonobo > + bug fixes > + relocate now prunes stale .dpcc files (Michael) > + problems in toolbox customize (Michael) > + --with-system-gcc fix (Michael, Robin Cook) > + print-scale fix (Dan Williams, Michael) > + File->New i18n fix (Michael) > > This is mainly a quick release before Josh's nice de-java-ised build > patch-set lands, expect that next release. > > Package available from: > > http://ooo.ximian.com/packages/OOO_1_1_0/ooo-build-1.1.44.tar.gz > > To find out more see http://ooo.ximian.com/ and/or subscribe to our > Gnome / OO.o development mailing list at: > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/openoffice. > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > idle CPU time. Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws some characters that should be removed before drawing (like U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that if that's the case. Thanks behdad, who is going to study after finishing this mail. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124B18837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA181C2F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26032 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gargantuan.boston.ximian.com) (nat@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Subject: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: Nat Friedman To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065725736.8051.36.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:58:50 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everyone, We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial information about the summit is available on the internet: http://www.nylxs.com/events/gnome Similar in spirit to the 2002 Summit in sunny Boston, the objective of this event is to get the GNOME hackers together in the same place to facilitate coordination, planning, and a general sense of love and spiritual well-being. For those of you who attended the summit in 2002, we have learned from your feedback and therefore this event will be even less formal and more free-form than the previous year's. There will be few to no scheduled sessions, and the emphasis will be on providing facilities and a common location for contributors to get together. For those of you who did not attend last year, we hope that you can make it in November. This year, we are not requiring that you be a GNOME Foundation member to attend. This summit is being organized by NYLXS, the New York GNU Linux Scene, who have been kind enough to organize all the facilities and accommodations for the event. As with last year, you are responsible for finding accommodations yourself. Very soon, some helpful information will appear on the summit web page with information about nearby hotels and other arrangements. Contact information for Lewis Travel, who can help you arrange your travel, is already available. We do ask that you register using the registration mechanism on the summit web page. Questions about the summit should be directed to Ruben Safir . Over and out, Nat _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516A181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9418144 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw3vk002012 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:03 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961E181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9F18289 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw4vk002021 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c39042$bf92b510$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 12:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F753180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB2180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031012160741.RLIE2197.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:41 +0100 Subject: Re: totem 0.99.1 From: Bastien Nocera To: Mark McLoughlin Cc: Gnome Hackers , Gnome-i18n In-Reply-To: <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> References: <1056315067.5796.15.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1056374346.18838.13.camel@localhost> <1056375576.10530.31216.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065974860.5503.55.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:40 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:58, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:39, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:19, Vincent van Adrighem wrote: > > > > > Dutch (Vincent van Adrighem) > > > > > > It's very nice of you to put my name up here, but I didn't do the > > > translation here. I'm merely the one with CVS-access as you can see > > > here: > > > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvslog.cgi?file=totem%2Fpo%2F/nl.po&rev=HEAD&root=/cvs/gnome > > > > > > My translators are getting grumpy because they don't get the credit for > > > their translations. And naturally I completely agree with them. :-) Your > > > module is not the only one where this mistake is being made, so nothing > > > directed at you in particular of course. But my translators would really > > > like to see their name in the credits. > > > > Mistake on my part, you'll see for example that the Bulgarian > > translation is rightly credited, although Yanko committed it. > > I've made the mistake quite a few time too, I'm sure. Its not intended > ... I don't think we'd bother doing translators lists if we didn't want > them to be credited correctly :-) > > I used to compile the list from the ChangeLog, and it would have been a > lot easier to not make these mistakes if the person committing put the > translator's name in the entry header rather than the committer. > > Kenneth suggested to me that we use "Last-Translator:" from the .po > file ... so I put a script in releng/single_module/tools/ which pulls > the list of translators since a given tag ... Well, either it's broken, or I'm doing something wrong. The awk-fu doesn't actually print anything out when I try it on Totem. So I added a Perl version that does pretty much the same thing but works for me :) --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 19:36:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2FA18330; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net [63.226.138.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 519DE18330 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62111 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lashell.net) (216.161.210.116) by mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> From: Will LaShell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Hackers , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:37:09 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Welcome to Fifth Toe 2.4.0 The Fifth Toe release is a collection of cool, useful and fun GNOME applications. You can find a wide variety of applications in our latest release. The included applications range from Gnumeric an excellent spreadsheet application to gaim a well known instant messaging client. We would like to take the time now to thank everyone who has helped make the 2.3 beta series and this 2.4 release possible. We would especially like to thank the maintainers of the applications in the Fifth Toe release. Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. Abiword 2.0.0 - cross platform word processor balsa 2.0.15 - email client camorama 0.17 - web cam client with upload capabilities dia 0.91 - diagram application drivel 0.9.1 - a dropline web logging client gaim 0.70 - multi protocol instant messaging client galeon 1.3.9 - web browser gcompris 3.2 - children's educational games gDeskCal 0.54 - desktop calender application ghex 2.3 - hex editor glade 2.0.0 - GTK/GNOME gui designer gnomeicu 0.99 - icq client gnotime 2.1.7 - time tracker application gnumeric 1.2.0 - spreadsheet application gob2 2.0.6 - GObject builder library gpaint2 0.2.3 - simple graphics program gswitchit 2.3.3 - keyboard layout manager gtetrinet 0.7.5 - tetrinet client gthumb 2.1.6 - Thumbnailing application gurlchecker 0.6.0 - url checking application hardware monitor 0.7 - system monitoring applet heartbeat 0.2 - server monitoring system libgda / libgnomedb 1.0 - gnome database libraries meld 0.8.5 - visual diff and merge utility mergeant 0.12.1 - gui database tool monster masher 1.3 - multi level game mrproject 0.9.1 - project and resource management application pan 0.14.2 - usenet client regexxer 0.4 - regular expression build and test suite seahorse 0.7.3 - gnugpg client seti-applet 2.1.3 - seti client applet sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility streamtuner 0.10.0 - Internet music stream browser tsclient 0.120.0 - remote desktop client workrave 1.4.0 - Repetitive stress injury prevention utility xchat 2.0.5 - IRC client _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 05:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6259518334; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02CD18334 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:01:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 22:58, Chris Chabot wrote: > > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > > idle CPU time. > > > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > > if that's the case. > > It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in > these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very > complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. Quite; of course spare CPU time is not such a problem - most people are not belting their CPU overnight; it's really just a disk-space issue. Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Anyhow - this question really belongs on the mailing list that was linked in the announcement itself; where Dan lurks who can help you with Fedora OO.o questions too. HTH, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 13:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C75180DF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from rover24.cmt (unknown [62.138.132.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC318788 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shawn (unknown [192.168.60.57]) by rover24.cmt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3CC7A20; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by shawn (Postfix, from userid 1050) id DB760A55; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Chris Halls To: Michael Meeks Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 Message-ID: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Meeks , Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:16 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Uuuh.. $ deliver.pl -h deliver -- version: 1.50.8.1 deliver: ERROR: invalid option -h Usage: deliver [-force] [-minor] [-check] [-zip] [-delete] [destination-path] Options: -force copy even if not newer -minor deliver into minor -check just print what would happen, no actual copying of files -zip create additional zip files of delivered content -delete delete files, use with care -link hard link files into the solver to save disk space -deloutput remove the output tree The option -zip and a destination-path are mutually exclusive deliver -link will hardlink into the solver deliver -deloutput will delete the output directory too I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Chris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 14:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138D1812C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smithers.nildram.co.uk (smithers.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCEE1812C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (81-6-246-88.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.246.88]) by smithers.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5E24E86E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A8xJl-40z-00; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > ... > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility Ooh, s-j made it! Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB781818A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDD181A6 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9DLn2c32386; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Deprecating widgets in libgnomeui X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Given that we're now compiling GNOME with GTK+-2.3, I've gone through libgnomeui and deprecated a number of widgets. GnomeColorPicker GnomeEntry GnomeFileEntry GnomeFontPicker GnomePixmapEntry GnomePopupMenu In addition, I deprecated gnome-window.h because it was pretty silly and didn't agree with the HIG at all. All of these widgets have an equivalents in GTK+. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7E184B7; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38F184B7 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Ross Burton Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 14:55:34 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility >=20 > Ooh, s-j made it! >=20 > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on it. There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that weekend. At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. --Will >=20 > Ross > --=20 > Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com > jabber: ross@burtonini.com > www: http://www.burtonini.com./ > PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ix9VZr3R5kgOZd0RApUJAKCc4fl7LFz/mtd03Yu+Tn1FkNbxUQCcCUba xxKzj0j1xkQHYDJvbjLKVcM= =FGf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 14 05:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78918782; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B6018782 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Halls Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066124721.32481.14.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:45:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Chris, On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Chris Halls wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; > > Uuuh.. Oh ! :-) fascinating; how can we enable this by default in the build ? [ and/or is that a good idea ? ]. > I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to > build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Sounds like my laptop ;-) Regards, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 04:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F0C1823B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DC18488 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lionel.180sw.com ([82.44.126.41]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:40:40 +0100 Received: from burtonini.com (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by lionel.180sw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F37915AACD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A9XEr-0sT-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD" Message-Id: <1066168917.3023.14.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 08:40:40.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[03A89370:01C392F8] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will, > We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying > woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received > it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on > it. Not a problem, with the amount of spam/viruses I've been getting recently I've been quite aggressive with the delete key on my inbox. :/ > There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but > we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned > out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I > returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that > weekend. I best try and fix the thread crasher! > At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. Thanks, glad you like it. Ross --=20 Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jHJVLQnkR9C0M98RAqIsAJwI/9Agz+zhSzimzgwOtF1ow29E8gCg4rme 8NSNhk5+1VUiLr0uzQ86PEY= =ptDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 14:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C718153; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7311318742 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031015182827.EBXO12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:27 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Bastien Nocera To: Ross Burton Cc: Will LaShell , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > > Ooh, s-j made it! > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) --- Bastien Nocera Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 15:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E921894B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172D1894B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:13:12 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066245192.16084.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 15 Oct 2003 12:13:11 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:28, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > > ... > > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > >=20 > > Ooh, s-j made it! > >=20 > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... >=20 > But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the > wit and wisdom to do their job properly. Hmmm, for some reason I thought it was in the desktop release. we can append it to the 2.4.1 release. :( I wish you'd hollered when the final beta list went out. Oh and of course it was revenge, for leaving our happy little group and depriving us of your splendorous company. :) Will --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jZxHZr3R5kgOZd0RAsIBAJ4qBTk7zkhtSnkf8mTek6ZuyVP4LACfW9C5 4GuNFcSVnfe5n0WBUHRJW2Y= =S6Eo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 08:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4F8186B3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8C185DC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9HCQv924577; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:27:00 +0100 Subject: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: GNOME Desktop Hackers Cc: "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:25:58 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch. libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9818888; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cougar.paw.za.org (cougar.paw.co.za [196.25.102.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C918D3A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by cougar.paw.za.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h9GDUDo08343; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: cougar.paw.za.org: apache set sender to djhouy@paw.za.org using -f Received: from 196.25.102.9 (proxying for 196.25.102.112) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djhouy) by webmail.paw.za.org with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Subject: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: "Derrick J Houy" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily see it and translate it." There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening it up for comments in this regard. Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be better off hosted at GNOME. The current CVS repository can be viewed at: http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ Regards, Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC7186DE; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (cosmos.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05CC18858; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vayu.gravity.psu.edu (vayu.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.55]) by cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h9HEtZS11124; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 Received: by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix, from userid 59058) id 96BFE52A8A; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96852A89; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Vandersloot To: Bastien Nocera Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Subject: Re: libgtop merging In-Reply-To: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Regards, Kevin > Hello, > > Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge > libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? > > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port > branch. > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the > module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. > > Cheers > > --- > Bastien Nocera > Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159CE181E5; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0DA181E5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9HGNOi13048; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:23:28 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Rose To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066407804.16742.1723.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 18:23:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: tor 2003-10-16 klockan 15.30 skrev Derrick J Houy: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. The home page seems to be http://www.paw.za.org/projects/gnome-alsamixer/. I'm personally all in favor of having this in GNOME CVS. Opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273518392; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0005.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914318392 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-080.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.80]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16CB53855E; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:52:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA46B3BE3; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC76C12B7BD; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer Message-ID: <20031017161737.GH28114@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Derrick J Houy , gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6-mm4 i686 Reply-By: Tue Oct 21 02:12:24 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 02:12:24 up 1 day, 9:29, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.08 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. Hi Derrick, Not only would I encourage you to use GNOME CVS for your project (our i18n team will love you), but you may want to get in touch with Ted Gould [1], maintainer of gnome-media, because the mixer needs some ALSA love! Perhaps it would make sense to combine the two? It has been discussed on gnome-multimedia list in the last couple of weeks, so is already in people's heads as a todo item, particularly since Linux 2.6 is well on its way. Thanks, - Jeff [1] Ted Gould -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "First: This is not a race." - Jody Goldberg on the Free Software desktop _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 16:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF18119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370718119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031017201845.VCRU13066.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:18:45 +0200 Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Schaller To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-multimedia@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066421941.1188.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 22:19:01 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Derrick, We plan on switching the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer 0.8.x for GNOME 2.6. The advantage of this is that we wouldn't need to compile the mixer with OSS or ALSA support (or any other sound architecture for that matter), but instead the mixer can be used with all the sound architectures we have support for in GStreamer. As mentioned by Mark so have we had a discussion on this on gnome-multimedia mailing list. If you would be interested in helping us with the alsa mixer support in GStreamer that would be really really wonderfull, in fact it would be highly needed. The OSS code is already in GStreamer CVS head and will be in our GStreamer 0.7.1 release that will happen in one of the next few days. Please either reply to this mail (think you can remove the gnome-hackers list from the cc'list and we take this onto gnome-multimedia) or come to #gstreamer on irc.freenode.com Ronald Bultje (BBB on IRC) is the person who has made both the OSS mixer interface in GStreamer and he has also made a mixer GUI for GNOME using it. Hope to hear back from you Derrick. Sincerely, Christian On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:30, Derrick J Houy wrote: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. > The current CVS repository can be viewed at: > http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ > > Regards, > Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 10:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ECA18412; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3118111; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0E16087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 15993-01; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32816023; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Kevin Vandersloot Cc: Bastien Nocera , GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:48 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: >=20 > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to d= o=20 > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory=20 > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) Cheers. >=20 > Regards, > Kevin --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/kqGAEuPMamD5V9cRAtkoAJ4nUg7gCoy9y+X6s4AF/UP7QiyL0wCghQtv 6VuNxewDr8Uoqx/0zXDJwhw= =NkhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 11:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B416186A6; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F48186A4; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031019152646.HWVY2637.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:46 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:45 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) --- Bastien Nocera Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides gently compressed by a Thigh Master. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 13:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D87186F0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC9183B0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58F1608B; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 16328-10; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3616087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribi=F3: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >=20 > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple = to do=20 > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directo= ry=20 > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts her= e. > >=20 > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) >=20 > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) Done, please, just test it. Cheers. P.S.: The old HEAD code has been branched as "before-gnome-2-0-merge" >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides > gently compressed by a Thigh Master.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ksRIEuPMamD5V9cRAnjVAJ4okHA4v5kyAbDypbM8m14pgmV5PwCfYAV0 2F4msBcLJf4iF7VRNanQ6P8= =AKD5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 22:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5763180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9F180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0980453A8DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4A3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:13 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3A8612B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 11:18:53 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 11:18:53 up 16:23, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.09, 0.06 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good morning all, I have a little story to tell. The other weekend, I went paintballing. This is an incredibly violent activity, in which two teams dress up in army green overalls, don scary helmets, and shoot water-based paint pellets at each other with semi-automatic gas-powered rifles. As I surveyed the battlefield, a thought struck me - as hard as those little welt-inducing pellets were hitting the other team - that all these crazy kids running around in green overalls and facemasks looked just like... DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP. http://art.gnome.org/images/icons/gnome-people/Dave.png So this week, YOU TOO can be just like DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP, by releasing your latest MINDNUMBINGLY COOL software for the first GNOME 2.5 series release. If you're not excited now, just wait until we send Dave around to convince you that RELEASES ARE COOL. He sharpens his teeth, by the way. THE NEW MODULES BIT: If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and will be following the 2.5 series releases. If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by Wednesday or Thursday this week. Thanks, - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Whoever wrote [the Twisted documentation] uses a vivid and interesting style of prose which triggers pleasure." - Francois Pinard _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 05:15:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4788181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D14181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A574153B622; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A493BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:26 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBE5812B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Xan Lopez Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 17:08:34 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 17:08:34 up 22:13, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.12 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > Good morning all, > (snip) > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > phases of the release process. > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. Thanks Xan, - Jeff [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:45:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F154188CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0B018104; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE94815231F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:15:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling against 2.2 will be fine? > > Thanks Xan, > > - Jeff > > [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from > procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB5188A1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from zugzwang.rosevear.com (CPE00045ae4cc2c-CM014410117597.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.114.92.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529FF18104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zugzwang.rosevear.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9K6ia1F010768 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:37 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: JP Rosevear To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> References: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian, Inc. Message-Id: <1066632275.10661.13.camel@zugzwang.rosevear.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:35 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 14:55, Nat Friedman wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November > 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial > information about the summit is available on the internet: Maybe this was covered while I was a way, but the registration form is pretty much US-centric if that makes a difference. -JP -- JP Rosevear Ximian, Inc. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 07:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA70181C5; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB751839F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9KBYf929515; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:34:42 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers , "gnome-i18n@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <1066649622.699.37.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:33:42 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 18:05, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribió: > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > > > > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) > > > > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) > > Done, please, just test it. GNOME 2.4 version is in the gnome-2-4 branch. I'm starting to clean up HEAD. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Even in his last years, Granddad had a mind like a steel trap, only one that had been left out so long it had rusted shut. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64801836C; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB67181E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C875539FF2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:05:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2073BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C49212B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 21:06:15 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:06:15 up 1 day, 2:11, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.02 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > against 2.2 will be fine? If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you won't be able to build half of the existing modules). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of "meme". _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650E188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD1188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEM31687; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEr20603; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.38]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMDt24974; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:13 -0400 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Owen Taylor To: Jeff Waugh Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:06 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 03:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CC2188E3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8E18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B991152374; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 (CEST) To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020120806.GA4658@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:06:52PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > > against 2.2 will be fine? > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). I guess it was an stupid question :-P... ok, then I'll have to check as soon as possible that everything works in the gnome system tools with gtk HEAD thanks > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of > "meme". > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9F18911; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14FB18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A3538FCF; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:21:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214CC3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D5F12B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Owen Taylor Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020122322.GI9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Owen Taylor , Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 22:23:07 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 22:23:07 up 1 day, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:22 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some > form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Awesome, thanks very much Owen! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and righteously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism." - Darwinian System Administration _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 15:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9KJgU720818; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: Mark Finlay Cc: Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford In-Reply-To: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mark Finlay writes: > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). > > There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on > HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems from GTK+ as we can. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178EA183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from helliconia (unknown [213.37.158.37]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17918145; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (helliconia [127.0.0.1]) by helliconia (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD79B807E; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Xan Lopez To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribió: > Good morning all, (snip) > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several phases of the release process. We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by > Wednesday or Thursday this week. > > Thanks, > > - Jeff -- "The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages -- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already" [Edward Abbey] xan, xan@masilla.org _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA91C183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c106-105.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.106.105]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC2180E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9KKAYKx004129; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Received: (from sisob@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9KKAYH2004127; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: sisob set sender to sisob@tuxfamily.org using -f Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Mark Finlay To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. -- Mark Finlay Computer Science Student E-Mail: sisob_AT_tuxfamily_DOT_org Jabber: sisob_AT_jabber_DOT_org Blog: http://sisob.tuxfamily.org http://advogato.org/person/sisob _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9954C180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-10.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.42]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4EB51821E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11244 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.henstridge.invalid) (203.59.242.135) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from daa.com.au (dhcp-236.henstridge.invalid [10.0.42.236]) by home.henstridge.invalid (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102A43CA; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:28 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> From: James Henstridge User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-AU; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030927 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Blandford Cc: Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0800 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 21/10/03 03:42, Jonathan Blandford wrote: >Mark Finlay writes: > > > >>>If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you >>>won't be able to build half of the existing modules). >>> >>> >>There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on >>HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. >> >> > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems >from GTK+ as we can. > > This does bring up the question of whether it is right to have these flags turned on by default in tarball builds at all though. Do we want released tarballs to stop building in the future because some library they use deprecated a symbol in a future version? It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code designed to provide this compatibility. I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind of like -Werror ...). James. -- Email: james@daa.com.au WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12679183DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD6180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90470538539; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65E3BE3; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5230D12B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021021723.GP9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: James Henstridge , Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 12:16:06 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 12:16:06 up 1 day, 17:21, 4 users, load average: 0.46, 0.20, 0.10 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform > if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code > designed to provide this compatibility. > > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; > just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind > of like -Werror ...). I was thinking about this last night too, but when it comes to stuff in the Desktop and Developer Platform releases, it probably makes sense to keep them in there (at least for the time being). Certainly other modules should remove them, unless there's a good reason not to. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "There are men with an appetite for fight and a sense of occasion, and then there is Waugh." - SMH, about Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 07:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1618938; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB831816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LBTWSF009353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:29:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:24 +0200 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: veillard@redhat.com, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: RE: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:12 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > getting approval or no dissent from them. Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 08:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2618963; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2C1896C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3063E5385B1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:43:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E37D3BE3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F135812B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-games 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031021124537.GX9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 22:41:12 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 22:41:12 up 2 days, 3:46, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > So here it is, the first release of the new unstable series of gnome-games > and quite frankly I think I've done an excellent job of trying to make it > unstable. Ha ha ha. :-) THAT'S THE SPIRIT! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ W.O.R.K: Weekend Over, Resume the Killings. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 22 05:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1845180DA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41930180DA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9M9ETW10361; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:29 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Qalculate! 0.3 From: Alexander Larsson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: Niklas Knutsson In-Reply-To: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066814068.15104.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 22 Oct 2003 11:14:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:22, Niklas Knutsson wrote: > Application > =========== > > Qalculate! 0.3 > > Description > =========== > > Qalculate! is a modern multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux. It > is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility underneath. > Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary precision, > plotting, and a graphical interface (GTK+) that uses an one-line > fault-tolerant expression entry (although it supports optional traditional > buttons). > > Enhancements > ============ > > This release adds arbitrary precision, fractions, matrices, RPN, function > and data plotting, boolean operations, exact mode, exchange rates, a new > math display widget, increased function flexibility, new functions, XML > data files... ... and bug fixes. Man, this app rules! Its everything a computer based desktop calculator should be, and more. I can finally stop using python to do simple calculations. Thank you, thank you, thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl@redhat.com alla@lysator.liu.se He's an otherworldly Republican sorceror for the 21st century. She's a psychotic antique-collecting lawyer living on borrowed time. They fight crime! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB2185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from akasha.mundoregio.com (unknown [66.6.75.106]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E718404; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amy.the-vox.com (dsl-200-67-6-15.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.6.15]) by akasha.mundoregio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD828000B; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Juan Pablo Mendoza To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066704422.21343.6.camel@amy.the-vox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 21:00, James Henstridge wrote: > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). Maybe GTK+ guys can, in the next release, deprecate with DISABLE_GTK_2_6_DEPRECATED ? > James. -- Juan Pablo Mendoza Monterrey, Nuevo León. México. http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FA6185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from november.skynet.be (november.skynet.be [195.238.3.59]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4618110; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ana.onshuis (253.43-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.43.253]) by november.skynet.be (8.12.9/8.12.9/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h9L8FOxK031559; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066724123.2260.51.camel@ana.onshuis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (november.skynet.be) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally > >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get > >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems > >from GTK+ as we can. > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). I agree. With GStreamer, we usually have Werror on for CVS and off for releases, and I was planning to add other stuff as well, like deprecation. I think it would make sense to do this for GNOME as well; hammer out as many bugs as possible from CVS, but make the releases as buildable as possible. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> I feel like I'm at something you always say you need more time Well I'll stay right here and I'll wait for good until I find a love worth mine <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E8185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE81182C4; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LB3d831353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021070339.B16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus>; from jdub@perkypants.org on Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a > release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and > release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and > will be following the 2.5 series releases. libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and getting approval or no dissent from them. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB50185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8584218825; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031021214222.JUIX5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:42:22 +0200 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GStreamer delivered From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers , gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066772562.1187.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 21 Oct 2003 23:42:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, We just released GStreamer 0.7.1 today. It is meant as the unstable release series for GNOME 2.5 leading up to shipping 0.8.0 with GNOME 2.6. As you all know we have been doing a stable GStreamer 0.6.x series now for the GNOME 2.2 and GNOME 2.4, but since the 0.6.x branch has reached its peaked we felt it was time to move forward with a new stable series based of CVS head. While this do constitute a breakage of ABI we will work together with Ted to make sure gnome-media is working well with the new branch. (I think sound-recorder also works with 0.7?) The new release will be mostly source compatible actually, which is why you can use current Rhythmbox with both the 0.6.x branch and this new 0.7.x branch. We will also migrate the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer with this release. Code for this is in GStreamer 0.7.1 and we have a new GNOME mixer in the gst-sandbox CVS module on gst.net. This we will try and get moved into gnome-multimedia as soon as possible to replace the current mixer. The advantage of this is that we can compile the gnome-mixer once and it will work with both ALSA and OSS under Linux or OSS or Solaris Audio on Solaris (1). The new 0.7.x branch has a lot of improvements compared to the 0.6 branch, especially for video applications as it supports more formats both for decoding/demuxing and for muxing/encoding. It also features good error handling, better typefinding and soon a new metadata system. There is probably also a tonn of other stuff in here I don't even remember now. Many people have been hacking on this for quite some while now in CVS :) Another feature of 0.7.x is that Thomas will soon be working fulltime on it :) I am working on a small technical summary of what we did at the GStreamer meeting in Barcelona last month and what we plan ahead. We will also be making a normal release announcement for GStreamer 0.7.1 with more details, but my planned effort on that today was derailed as I was commandeered elsewhere as part of my service to Larry :) (1) Solaris Audio and Alsa implementations missing atm, but we hope to solve that soonish :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB65185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00141816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LBlG816231; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021074716.C16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com>; from Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > > getting approval or no dissent from them. > > Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? I run GNOME 2.4 on libxml2 2.6.0 without troubles so far, yes. The couple of compatibility bugs which have been found in the 1.5 month it took to build 2.6.0 have been fixed immediately, In practice it should work, maybe with the exception of handling DocBook SGML docs, which I think should have been fixed by GNOME 2.4 anyway. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90019185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC28B181AA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ACqQA-00031C-Oz for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome.org #2666] new module and cvs account References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:45 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account information. Thanks for considering the project! Todd Christian Rose via RT wrote: > > [todd@dropline.net - Thu Oct 23 19:45:15 2003]: > >>I've been working on a CD burner using the GNOME 2.4 libraries, and >>was wondering if there was interest in putting the code into GNOME's >>CVS. I have a simple webpage setup with project details and >>screenshots at http://www.dropline.net/optimystic. There are also >>instructions for downloading the current code, but as it's hosted off >>of a cable modem, it is not a permanant solution. Does this look >>appropriate for GNOME CVS? > > > In my opinion yes, but please also suggest this on the > gnome-hackers@gnome.org mailing list -- that way more people will know > about the request and can state their opinions, and we can use the > general opinion on that list as a reference on whether we can import > this to GNOME CVS. > > Also, should people on gnome-hackers@gnome.org be positive about this, > we need more details from you in order to be able to create an account. > The list of details we need is at > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/policies/accounts/ . > > > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 07:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1118625; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAE318625 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9OBG1Y07211; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:16:01 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Rose To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 13:16:02 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > information. Thanks for considering the project! I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to GNOME CVS myself. Any opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A701879B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2F1849C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031024172806.XECR5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:28:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 19:28:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Todd, Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) Christian On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 13:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > > information. Thanks for considering the project! > > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. > > Any opinions? > > > Christian > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E518616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from as583.emma.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.248.82]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AD0x9-0004Nq-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Andrew Sobala To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN" Message-Id: <1066998148.4651.0.camel@gondor.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:28 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that=20 > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account=20 > > information. Thanks for considering the project! >=20 > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Yes, it looks nice and it would be great to have it in GNOME CVS. --=20 Andrew Sobala Given by our hand in the meadow that is called Runnymede, between Windsor and Staines, on the fifteenth day of June in the seventeenth year of our reign. --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mRmEBv9K3NCDvFYRAns3AJ4t4vx1RZzD/HTqKvBdofDCOldJSACfe8yR G9iFT1Sjd5e2KxN3c3+V9ys= =AdAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282618186 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [68.72.228.34] (helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.24) id 1AD2Kb-0004RY-4n; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xavier Bestel Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> In-Reply-To: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:19 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xavier Bestel wrote: > Does it use cdrecord ? > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems, porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079718154 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD1jP-0004HK-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 13:16, Christian Rose a =E9crit : > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Does it use cdrecord ? Xav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F9418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1EC18376 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD2j5-0004QX-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067004937.9771.3.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:38 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 15:50, Todd Kulesza a =E9crit : > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > Does it use cdrecord ? > >=20 >=20 > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the=20 > maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems,=20 > porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Oh sorry, I overlooked that on the web site. IMHO you should put it in the "features" section :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 18:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD18DCC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73018D97; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031024222520.PZDG12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Bastien Nocera To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067034319.5515.8.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:19 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) We already have a CD and DVD burner that works on more than just Linux... And if RB makes it, we can probably work towards having audio burning in there as well. --- Bastien Nocera Never do today that which will become someone elses responsibility tomorrow. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 19:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17E418DAE; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4818818; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:36:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Will LaShell To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Todd Kulesza , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:35:59 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. Will --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mbdfZr3R5kgOZd0RAlpQAKCQOJ4aqCrvHEOdXIFf5zqJuXY1PgCgnrsu DBxiRatmv0wVZV/BT4vCVow= =5vG9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52461818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E311810C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADG5L-0002mr-44; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99FCC0.50002@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will LaShell Cc: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller , Gnome Hackers Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> In-Reply-To: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:32:00 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Will LaShell wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > >>Hi Todd, >>Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it >>belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) > > > s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) > > But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. > Will > > Yeah, I wasn't planning on proposing Optimystic as the official GNOME CD burner; I just want a CVS home for it :) Fifth Toe, on the other hand, sounds perfectly appropriate once Optimystic's code has solidified. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA51818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB31182EB for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QFqCPh029545 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CHBG2Y6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CHCG2Z6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tO7FuKxFCiQjB1K07YWTpg== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Christian, > We are doing a push to create a large collection of flags available > in SVG format. To accomplish this we need as many people as possible to > get involved and send us a SVG version of their local flags. > > Please check out our article on gnomedesktop.org > http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1421&mode=&order=0&thold=1 Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. For more on the faces project see: http://faces.sourceforge.net http://www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30E41818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48618844 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QGtYxA018656 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CMIJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: C7J1hxLj38WJRXW/zy9hVw== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > ... > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a vector format. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 16:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F112187C9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:53:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB615187C9 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hhlinux.no.oracle.com ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031026213452.WDGG13165.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@hhlinux.no.oracle.com>; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:34:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Christian Schaller To: Rich Burridge Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:39:55 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of submissions :) Christian On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > ... > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > vector format. > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 17:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC851819E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:43:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB8B184B1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (xkahn@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Benjamin Kahn To: Christian Schaller Cc: Rich Burridge , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067208132.11391.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:12 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, The application you're looking for is called autotrace. The frontend is called frontline. You can find them here: http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/ http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/frontline It works okay, although it's a fairly manual process. (Actually, it might get more automatic if you have a bunch of similar images.) My experience shows that it's good for starting the sketch, but works best if you're prepared to clean the image up afterward. On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 16:39, Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi Rich, > I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of > the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of > submissions :) > > Christian > > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > > ... > > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > > vector format. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers -- Benjamin Kahn Special Projects W: 617 / 375 - 3811 Support Manager F: 401 / 712 - 8649 Security Team _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 23:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB6182B9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:12:49 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from esco.mine.nu (c-67-167-205-161.client.comcast.net [67.167.205.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B59181B4; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jcape by esco.mine.nu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ADyjy-00007B-Fr; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Subject: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: "James M. Cape" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB" Organization: Project Mayhem Message-Id: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the GTcpSocket library, and is available at: http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. It's currently broken due to the massive API/code organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does build, and will definately be stable (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread issues re: closing sockets). The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: GNet: + Uses GObject. + Multi-threaded. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + Easily extensible. + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Link: + Not private to ORBit :-). + More detailed signals and error reporting. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). GTcpSocket: + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). GnomeVFS: + GObject. + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate verification, for example). + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). And most importantly, it'll be used by gnome-network :-). To get an idea of how it's used: void sent_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void recv_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void error_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, GError * error, gpointer user_data); void cxn_starter (gpointer data) { GObject *cxn; cxn =3D gnetwork_tcp_connection_new (GNETWORK_TCP_PROXY_HTTP, "127.0.0.1", 80); g_signal_connect (cxn, "notify::tcp-status", notify_tcp_status_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "sent", sent_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "received", recv_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "error", error_cb, NULL); gnetwork_connection_open (GNETWORK_CONNECTION (cxn)); } There's also a server object :-). --=20 Peace, Jim Cape http://ignore-your.tv "It is literally true that, like Christianity, Socialism has conquered the world by defeating itself." -- Alexander Berkman, ABC of Anarchism --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nJspCSU9pcw97v0RAhmcAKCzuQPdp7uSVz+ATEXB40QCZAAecQCg1jON ttcwA+sOzlgAPCZdCKAWEXQ= =xggU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 02:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54F189D7; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:13:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2E189D0; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-132.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.132]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305D538054; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:09:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4F3BE3; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B8212BA10; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031027071202.GY9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: "James M. Cape" , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Reply-By: Thu Oct 30 18:10:45 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 18:10:45 up 7 days, 22:15, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. (It's not too late as a general 2.6 proposed module, or for 2.5.0 - looks like we're going to have all kinds of *_DEPRECATED problems, so 2.5.0 is virtually on hold at the moment. Hoping to resolve that this week. You should probably send this email to desktop-devel-list too. Thanks!) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2E18A34; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:40:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from soumis.mandrakesoft.com (ezoffice.mandrakesoft.com [212.11.15.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CBA18A06; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinidad.mandrakesoft.com (trinidad.mandrakesoft.com [192.168.100.216]) by soumis.mandrakesoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D367; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:39:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Frederic Crozat To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Organization: Mandrakesoft Message-Id: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:33 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lun 27/10/2003 à 05:12, James M. Cape a écrit : > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Link: I think you mean linc > + Not private to ORBit :-). This is no longer the case.. With ORBit 2.8.x, linc was merged back into ORBit2 as linc2 > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the future.. -- Frederic Crozat Mandrakesoft _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13EA18A47; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725DE189EE; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95216022; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08475-05; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598051608D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Frederic Crozat Cc: "James M. Cape" , GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067251955.31096.77.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:35 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:37, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will > no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. > evolution 2.0 will still be using soup. > Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in > one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will > probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the > future.. > that was my main goal when talking with Jim about merging libgtcpsocket into libgnetwork. I think libgnetwork now provides a good base, and we just need to adapt the code in other libraries to it. One of the most interesting things might be to add libsoup's HTTP/HTTPS implementation, which is working pretty well now for evo 2.0 thanks to Dan Winship. Also, gmdns will be integrated very soon. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 18:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5C18B4D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:48:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (wintermute.sr.unh.edu [132.177.241.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AD181A5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RDaVPW010578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Received: (from tjb@localhost) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h9RDaVkc010576 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: wintermute.sr.unh.edu: tjb set sender to tjb@unh.edu using -f Subject: Re: New Wallpaper Properties Dialog From: "Thomas J. Baker" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> References: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO" Organization: University of New Hampshire's Research Computing Center Message-Id: <1067261791.10205.1.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-5) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 19:18, Rodney Dawes wrote: > I have just released the initial revision of the new wallpaper capplet > that I have been working on in my spare time, and has been under > discussion on gnome-themes-list. This initial release is quite > featureful, yet it is still missing the "random" feature that was in > my mock up, as well as some other features and functionality that are > outlined in the TODO file that is included in the tarball. >=20 > The main feature is the storage of meta-data and the list of available > wallpapers, in an XML file in ~/.gnome2/. For each individual image, the > filename, a descriptive name, image scaling type, background color type, > and background colors are all stored. There is no DTD yet, but one will > be written for the next release. >=20 > Also left to do, is to write the logic for detecting if the image is a > tile or should be scaled or what. It currently detects most tiled images > already though, on the basis of height vs. width. If they are the same, > Tiled is automatically selected. >=20 > I'm also proposing that we replace the current capplet(s) with this one > for GNOME 2.6. >=20 > Here are the relevant URLs: >=20 > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-real.png > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-0.2.0.tar.gz >=20 > -- dobey I don't know if it's possible or not but is there any hope of getting multimonitor support for wallpapers. It would be nice if it could detect multiple monitors and allow for different images on each. Thanks, tjb --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Thomas Baker email: tjb@unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nR9foCtjjhzuY8QRAiyZAKCD4IF1BwCw8wOt4c503Zd5XCn+cwCggDBg d5mHc+mU9zYB85R8sK+YgO4= =ZjQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 03:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0021815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:13:04 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F21815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9S8AQoB002128; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:09 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'm trying to get > libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the > GTcpSocket library, and is available > at: > > http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz > > and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. You need to update the README for the new project name, and you should add a MAINTAINERS file. Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful than the other networky APIs? For instance, it looks like it would be useful for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. Compared to libgnetwork, I guess that interprocess communication would be better done with dbus or CORBA, and reading/writing of file-based information would be better done with gnome-vfs. Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > build, and will definately be stable > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > issues re: closing sockets). > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: GNet == libgnetwork, right? > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on December 8th, by the way: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > Link: > + Not private to ORBit :-). > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Linc has been removed from the public API of the Development Platform, so it's no longer really relevant. > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). Non-HTTP: HTTP? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 04:22:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4391813F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BF1813F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-eris-2 ([129.156.85.26]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9M3UP028409 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slipstream (vpn-129-150-153-4.Aus.Sun.COM [129.150.153.4]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG001K9NCNM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:22:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Glynn Foster Subject: [Fwd: Call for Submissions: Tutorials] To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1067422727.2276.27.camel@slipstream> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR" X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:18:47 -1200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Just in case anyone feels like earning a bit of money ;) Glynn --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Call for Submissions: Tutorials Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-path: Received: from eris-mail1.uk.sun.com [129.156.85.66] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.13) for gman@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:14:16 -1200 (GMT+12) Received: from sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.220.30]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG00105MZHM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for Glynn.Foster@Sun.COM; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.246.180]) by sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E3ih000835 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.42.13]) by sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E2C08415 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay21.sun.com (relay21.sun.com [192.12.251.14] (may be forged)) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9E2UP025089 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.30] [150.143.232.30]) by relay21i.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:02 +0000 (Z) Received: from mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com (mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com [192.12.251.50]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from mail.ltt.de ([62.159.60.178] [62.159.60.178]) by relay23.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from ltt.de ([192.168.50.101]) by mail.ltt.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13796; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:18:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:10:45 +0100 From: Roberto Zicari Subject: Call for Submissions: Tutorials To: proctors , Glynn Foster Message-id: <3F9E3296.BA0C734E@ltt.de> Organization: LogOn Technology Transfer GmbH MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE Original-recipient: rfc822;glynn.foster@sun.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI-- Regards Roberto Zicari ---------------------------------------------------------------- LogOn Technology Transfer is looking for tutorial submissions for its new series of LogOn Briefings. The following three series of Briefings are taking place in co-location in January 2004: LogOn Briefing: OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Open Source & Linux@work Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Security (Protect your Business) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 The LogOn Briefings are building upon the established series of OMG Information Days and Linux@work. Each LogOn Briefing will offer a broad technical tutorial program in the morning. The afternoons are dedicated to corporate lectures, vendor neutral case studies, keynotes, and an exhibition. ** This call is for tutorial submissions. ** ############################################# Call for tutorial submissions -- Instructions: Submissions for the morning tutorial program should cover a **technical** subject, related to one of the three topics of the briefings: - OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) - Open Source & Linux@work - Security (Protect your Business) A detailed list of event topics can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/call-for-submissions.shtml The tutorials are addressed to a technical audience that is looking for in depth education on specific topics. Tutorial sessions will be 3 hrs long. Speaker Compensation: EUR 400 flat plus 1 night hotel Interested individuals or organisations are invited to submit +++ not later than October 31, 2003 +++ a brief abstract of the presentation, including a short biography of the presenter. Abstract length should be no longer than 1 page or 150 words. Submissions should be sent using the form at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/submissions-form.shtml Any questions can be addressed to: Mr. Matthias Neumann Conference Management LogOn Technology Transfer e-mail: neumann@ltt.de Background Information: For a look at past OMG Information Days and Linux@work events including final reports and photos, please visit http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/final-report.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/final-report.shtml Attendee profile and events evaluation can be found at http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/evaluation.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/evaluation.shtml A sample of past tutorials can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/tutorial-sample.shtml ## --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 07:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF7185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C85185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0116097; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 29136-08; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC48160DA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067344232.19535.63.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:32 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:13, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful > than the other networky APIs? > the idea is that there are a lot of network APIs out there, but none is standardized enough to be in the GNOME platform. When we re-started gnome-network, we wanted to fix that, by providing a rule-them-all library (thanks fcrozat for the term :-) to be included in the GNOME platform. We tried to contact gnet's maintainer, but didn't get any answer, so then we found libgtcpsocket, and asked James about renaming it to libgnetwork and push it for inclusion in GNOME 2.6. We chose libgtcpsocket because it is the best networking API I've found myself. It's GObject-based (as opposed to gnet, which isn't) and provides a very good base for building more high-level networking services. > For instance, it looks like it would be useful > for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and > maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. > yes, but not only for servers, but also for clients. One of the examples of this is libgircclient, in CVS also, which uses libgtcpsocket (still) for implementing an IRC client. This libgircclient might be added also to libgnetwork. > Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the > GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? > I'd vote for the platform, if possible. If not, just to the desktop so that gnome-network can use it. But I think it would be a good idea to provide a standard networking API in the GNOME platform, as many other OSes/environments provide. > I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies > that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure > personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > > build, and will definately be stable > > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > > issues re: closing sockets). > > > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > > > GNet: > > GNet == libgnetwork, right? > no, gnet -> http://www.gnetlibrary.org/ > > + Uses GObject. > > + Multi-threaded. > > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > > + Easily extensible. > > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on > December 8th, by the way: > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > I intend to integrate, if time permits, gmdns into this library, which uses, AFAIK, UDP, so we might probably have a UDP implementation by then. About UNIX sockets, I don't know what James is planning, but it might be a very good idea to add it. > > > GTcpSocket: > > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > it's been renamed, and it is being changed to not only allow TCP, but any sort of network connection. That's what the 'Much cleaner object hierarchy' talks about. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 08:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8818AFE; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:27:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4DE18ACC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SDMdoB024779; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:40 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: rodrigo@gnome-db.org Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to > having all GNOME applications using this for their networking > access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which > would be a good move. Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use it. Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 09:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF04F18B5E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:42:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAFE18B2C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C63E53840A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:38:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278E93BE3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:38 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD30E12BA10; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031028144037.GZ9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com, rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Reply-By: Sat Nov 1 01:33:14 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:33:14 up 9 days, 5:38, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] well, if we push it > > right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications > > using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, > > etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before > being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the > Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed > by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the > meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use > it. Agree. I would *very strongly* recommend that we *always* shift new libraries into the Desktop (or another appropriate release set or transition module, such as Office and libegg) before attempting to get them into the platform. We've made mistakes like this in the past, and we ought to have learned from them. Linus gets this right - stuff goes in when it's proven and in use. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "NASCAR is not race per se. It's just a contest about who can turn left the best." - Unknown _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EC1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35FE1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90625380A6; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263843BE3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:09 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE0CC12BA10; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Subject: Announcing GNOME.conf.au 2004 Message-ID: <20031030010508.GJ7082@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Sun Nov 2 12:03:25 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 12:03:25 up 10 days, 16:08, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gooooooood morning everybody! Announcing the first Australian GNOME.conf.au 2004 hacker's conference! Who'll be coming? ----------------- Havoc Pennington! James Henstridge! Plus lots of other people who haven't told me they're coming yet! Stay tuned for more info. When? Where? ------------ 12th-13th January, 2004, in the great city of Adelaide, in co-operation with Australia's premier Free Software and Open Source developer's conference, linux.conf.au! Check out their site (http://lca2004.linux.org.au/) for all the details on the main conference and for conference registration. It's going to kick serious arse again! Note that you must be attending the full conference to join in with the GNOME.conf.au fun, not that you'd seriously consider missing the main event! What? Why? ---------- On Monday, a selection of casual presentations, mini-tutorials and technical demos. On Tuesday, a hackfest! We'll have a list of things soon, but not a proper schedule. That would restrict our creativity (read: potential laziness, beer intake and hacking time). Further news will appear on the GNOME.conf.au webite: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ "IBM is the proud Penguin Sponsor of Linux.Conf.Au 2004" Thanks, - Jeff -- Come to gnome.conf.au 2004! http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ Wake up and smell the penguin. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:11:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195D187B6; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:11:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from 3rivieres.vuntz.net (3rivieres.vuntz.net [80.65.224.121]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD836187B5; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id B63083D16; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from brindas (brindas.vuntz.net [10.0.0.4]) by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC23D05; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from vuntz by brindas with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AF1Ks-0000Lp-00; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: foundation-announce@gnome.org, foundation-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Reminder - GNOME Foundation elections Message-ID: <20031030011050.GB638@vuntz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, This is a reminder for the elections for the GNOME Foundation. If you want to be able to vote or to be a candidate for the elections, please apply for membership before October 31st, 23:59 UTC. There's only 2 days left to apply before the membership committee closes the applications for the elections. You can apply using the form at: http://foundation.gnome.org/membership-form.php You can look at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/voters.html to see people who will be able to vote as of October 30th. Please look at this list before applying for membership or renewing your membership: you don't need to apply if you're in the list. If you want to be a candidate, please announce your candidacy before November 7th, 23:59 UTC. You may nominate yourself to run for election by sending an e-mail to foundation-announce@gnome.org with your name, e-mail address, corporate affiliation (if any), and a description of why you'd like to serve. You should also send a summary of your candidacy announcement (75 words or less) to elections@gnome.org. Timeline -------- (all deadlines are 23:59 UTC/18:59 EST) October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23(24)25 list of candidates opened (24th) -26-27-28-29-30(31)-- WE ARE HERE applications/renewals closed for elections (31st) November 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 (7) 8 start collecting questions for the candidates (3rd) all candidates must be announced (7th), questions to be sent to the candidates are choosed (7th) 9(10)11 12 13 14 15 announce list of candidates running for election, questions emailed to all candidates (10th) 16 17 18 19 20(21)22 ballots go out (21st) 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 December 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 all ballots must be returned (5th) 7 (8) 9 10 11 12 13 preliminary election result announced (8th) 14 15 16 17 18(19)20 challenges to election results close (19th) 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 In the case of a tie, there's another round of votes starting December 8th and ending December 15th. Questions --------- For the complete announcement of the elections, please see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2003-October/msg00001.html For more information, please look at the elections procedures at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/rules.html. If you have any questions, feel free to send them to elections@gnome.org or to foundation-list@gnome.org. The GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Eric Baudais Andy Tai Ghee Teo Vincent Untz -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas presses. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460E518519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.capital.lv (ns.luxcontrol.lv [195.13.243.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025B418832 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dinozaurs ([192.168.200.60]) by mail.capital.lv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:33 +0300 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Pavels Nikolajevs Reply-To: pavels@capital.lv To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI" Organization: Capital Message-Id: <1065186427.12574.2.camel@dinozaurs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2003 13:04:33.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3C996A0:01C389AE] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:07:07 +0300 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: 
Application
===========

Gnome Multires 0.4

Description
===========

Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of
desktop resolution and refresh rate.

Enhancements
============
Add Xrandr support

Download
========

http://multires.sourceforge.net

GNOME Software Map entry
========================

http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires

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gnome-announce-list mailing list
gnome-announce-list@gnome.org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list
--=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8418519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EFF186F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 417); 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from dbraylaptop.health-first.org ([208.143.232.66]) (AUTH: LOGIN thelupine@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Lupine Reply-To: thelupine@evilfucker.com To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Message-Id: <1065187288.858.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:21:28 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list > Very nice applet!!!! Thanks!!!! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Thu Oct 9 07:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7918892; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-12.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 496ED18877 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8459 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 11:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.perkypants.org) (203.217.23.133) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 11:24:53 -0000 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89E3C89; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02E6112B6F5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 Message-ID: <20031009112509.GK21801@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6 i686 Reply-By: Sun Oct 12 21:17:40 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:17:40 up 7 days, 1:59, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey hey crazy kids! IT'S RELEASE TIME AGAIN! In the Great and Wise words of Wayne and Garth... "A Schedule Says 'What'?" ... This time around, a schedule says that GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 tarballs are due on Monday, October 13th! That's next week! Schedule: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ Calendar with today and October 13th highlighted: October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9)10 11 <- TODAY! 12(13)14 15 16 17 18 <- TARBALLS DUE! 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Thanks! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary." - mpt _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1018837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (yonge.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.1.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEADD18364 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jane.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.31]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <199803-19411>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:48 -0400 Received: from qew.cs.toronto.edu by jane.cs.toronto.edu id <453283-20154>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:39 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod X-X-Sender: behdad@qew.cs To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 In-Reply-To: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Message-ID: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Michael Meeks wrote: > OpenOffice.org build: > > This package contains the Gnome integration work for > OpenOffice.org, and a much simplified build wrapper, making an OO.o > build / install possible for the common man.[1] It is a staging ground > for up-streaming patches to OO.o. Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same thing that is going to be in Fedora? My main question follows. > Changes in this release: > + features > + new, sized, alpha fixed icons (Tigert, Jimmac) > + scroll-wheel quickhelp less annoying (Michael) > + system-zlib, system-getopt (from Mdk, Rene) > + nice bonobo component (Martin Kretzchmar) > + configure with --enable-bonobo > + bug fixes > + relocate now prunes stale .dpcc files (Michael) > + problems in toolbox customize (Michael) > + --with-system-gcc fix (Michael, Robin Cook) > + print-scale fix (Dan Williams, Michael) > + File->New i18n fix (Michael) > > This is mainly a quick release before Josh's nice de-java-ised build > patch-set lands, expect that next release. > > Package available from: > > http://ooo.ximian.com/packages/OOO_1_1_0/ooo-build-1.1.44.tar.gz > > To find out more see http://ooo.ximian.com/ and/or subscribe to our > Gnome / OO.o development mailing list at: > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/openoffice. > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > idle CPU time. Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws some characters that should be removed before drawing (like U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that if that's the case. Thanks behdad, who is going to study after finishing this mail. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124B18837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA181C2F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26032 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gargantuan.boston.ximian.com) (nat@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Subject: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: Nat Friedman To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065725736.8051.36.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:58:50 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everyone, We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial information about the summit is available on the internet: http://www.nylxs.com/events/gnome Similar in spirit to the 2002 Summit in sunny Boston, the objective of this event is to get the GNOME hackers together in the same place to facilitate coordination, planning, and a general sense of love and spiritual well-being. For those of you who attended the summit in 2002, we have learned from your feedback and therefore this event will be even less formal and more free-form than the previous year's. There will be few to no scheduled sessions, and the emphasis will be on providing facilities and a common location for contributors to get together. For those of you who did not attend last year, we hope that you can make it in November. This year, we are not requiring that you be a GNOME Foundation member to attend. This summit is being organized by NYLXS, the New York GNU Linux Scene, who have been kind enough to organize all the facilities and accommodations for the event. As with last year, you are responsible for finding accommodations yourself. Very soon, some helpful information will appear on the summit web page with information about nearby hotels and other arrangements. Contact information for Lewis Travel, who can help you arrange your travel, is already available. We do ask that you register using the registration mechanism on the summit web page. Questions about the summit should be directed to Ruben Safir . Over and out, Nat _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516A181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9418144 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw3vk002012 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:03 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961E181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9F18289 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw4vk002021 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c39042$bf92b510$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 12:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F753180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB2180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031012160741.RLIE2197.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:41 +0100 Subject: Re: totem 0.99.1 From: Bastien Nocera To: Mark McLoughlin Cc: Gnome Hackers , Gnome-i18n In-Reply-To: <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> References: <1056315067.5796.15.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1056374346.18838.13.camel@localhost> <1056375576.10530.31216.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065974860.5503.55.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:40 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:58, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:39, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:19, Vincent van Adrighem wrote: > > > > > Dutch (Vincent van Adrighem) > > > > > > It's very nice of you to put my name up here, but I didn't do the > > > translation here. I'm merely the one with CVS-access as you can see > > > here: > > > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvslog.cgi?file=totem%2Fpo%2F/nl.po&rev=HEAD&root=/cvs/gnome > > > > > > My translators are getting grumpy because they don't get the credit for > > > their translations. And naturally I completely agree with them. :-) Your > > > module is not the only one where this mistake is being made, so nothing > > > directed at you in particular of course. But my translators would really > > > like to see their name in the credits. > > > > Mistake on my part, you'll see for example that the Bulgarian > > translation is rightly credited, although Yanko committed it. > > I've made the mistake quite a few time too, I'm sure. Its not intended > ... I don't think we'd bother doing translators lists if we didn't want > them to be credited correctly :-) > > I used to compile the list from the ChangeLog, and it would have been a > lot easier to not make these mistakes if the person committing put the > translator's name in the entry header rather than the committer. > > Kenneth suggested to me that we use "Last-Translator:" from the .po > file ... so I put a script in releng/single_module/tools/ which pulls > the list of translators since a given tag ... Well, either it's broken, or I'm doing something wrong. The awk-fu doesn't actually print anything out when I try it on Totem. So I added a Perl version that does pretty much the same thing but works for me :) --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 19:36:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2FA18330; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net [63.226.138.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 519DE18330 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62111 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lashell.net) (216.161.210.116) by mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> From: Will LaShell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Hackers , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:37:09 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Welcome to Fifth Toe 2.4.0 The Fifth Toe release is a collection of cool, useful and fun GNOME applications. You can find a wide variety of applications in our latest release. The included applications range from Gnumeric an excellent spreadsheet application to gaim a well known instant messaging client. We would like to take the time now to thank everyone who has helped make the 2.3 beta series and this 2.4 release possible. We would especially like to thank the maintainers of the applications in the Fifth Toe release. Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. Abiword 2.0.0 - cross platform word processor balsa 2.0.15 - email client camorama 0.17 - web cam client with upload capabilities dia 0.91 - diagram application drivel 0.9.1 - a dropline web logging client gaim 0.70 - multi protocol instant messaging client galeon 1.3.9 - web browser gcompris 3.2 - children's educational games gDeskCal 0.54 - desktop calender application ghex 2.3 - hex editor glade 2.0.0 - GTK/GNOME gui designer gnomeicu 0.99 - icq client gnotime 2.1.7 - time tracker application gnumeric 1.2.0 - spreadsheet application gob2 2.0.6 - GObject builder library gpaint2 0.2.3 - simple graphics program gswitchit 2.3.3 - keyboard layout manager gtetrinet 0.7.5 - tetrinet client gthumb 2.1.6 - Thumbnailing application gurlchecker 0.6.0 - url checking application hardware monitor 0.7 - system monitoring applet heartbeat 0.2 - server monitoring system libgda / libgnomedb 1.0 - gnome database libraries meld 0.8.5 - visual diff and merge utility mergeant 0.12.1 - gui database tool monster masher 1.3 - multi level game mrproject 0.9.1 - project and resource management application pan 0.14.2 - usenet client regexxer 0.4 - regular expression build and test suite seahorse 0.7.3 - gnugpg client seti-applet 2.1.3 - seti client applet sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility streamtuner 0.10.0 - Internet music stream browser tsclient 0.120.0 - remote desktop client workrave 1.4.0 - Repetitive stress injury prevention utility xchat 2.0.5 - IRC client _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 05:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6259518334; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02CD18334 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:01:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 22:58, Chris Chabot wrote: > > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > > idle CPU time. > > > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > > if that's the case. > > It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in > these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very > complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. Quite; of course spare CPU time is not such a problem - most people are not belting their CPU overnight; it's really just a disk-space issue. Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Anyhow - this question really belongs on the mailing list that was linked in the announcement itself; where Dan lurks who can help you with Fedora OO.o questions too. HTH, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 13:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C75180DF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from rover24.cmt (unknown [62.138.132.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC318788 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shawn (unknown [192.168.60.57]) by rover24.cmt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3CC7A20; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by shawn (Postfix, from userid 1050) id DB760A55; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Chris Halls To: Michael Meeks Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 Message-ID: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Meeks , Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:16 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Uuuh.. $ deliver.pl -h deliver -- version: 1.50.8.1 deliver: ERROR: invalid option -h Usage: deliver [-force] [-minor] [-check] [-zip] [-delete] [destination-path] Options: -force copy even if not newer -minor deliver into minor -check just print what would happen, no actual copying of files -zip create additional zip files of delivered content -delete delete files, use with care -link hard link files into the solver to save disk space -deloutput remove the output tree The option -zip and a destination-path are mutually exclusive deliver -link will hardlink into the solver deliver -deloutput will delete the output directory too I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Chris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 14:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138D1812C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smithers.nildram.co.uk (smithers.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCEE1812C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (81-6-246-88.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.246.88]) by smithers.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5E24E86E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A8xJl-40z-00; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > ... > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility Ooh, s-j made it! Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB781818A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDD181A6 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9DLn2c32386; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Deprecating widgets in libgnomeui X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Given that we're now compiling GNOME with GTK+-2.3, I've gone through libgnomeui and deprecated a number of widgets. GnomeColorPicker GnomeEntry GnomeFileEntry GnomeFontPicker GnomePixmapEntry GnomePopupMenu In addition, I deprecated gnome-window.h because it was pretty silly and didn't agree with the HIG at all. All of these widgets have an equivalents in GTK+. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7E184B7; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38F184B7 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Ross Burton Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 14:55:34 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility >=20 > Ooh, s-j made it! >=20 > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on it. There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that weekend. At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. --Will >=20 > Ross > --=20 > Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com > jabber: ross@burtonini.com > www: http://www.burtonini.com./ > PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ix9VZr3R5kgOZd0RApUJAKCc4fl7LFz/mtd03Yu+Tn1FkNbxUQCcCUba xxKzj0j1xkQHYDJvbjLKVcM= =FGf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 14 05:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78918782; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B6018782 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Halls Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066124721.32481.14.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:45:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Chris, On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Chris Halls wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; > > Uuuh.. Oh ! :-) fascinating; how can we enable this by default in the build ? [ and/or is that a good idea ? ]. > I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to > build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Sounds like my laptop ;-) Regards, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 04:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F0C1823B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DC18488 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lionel.180sw.com ([82.44.126.41]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:40:40 +0100 Received: from burtonini.com (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by lionel.180sw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F37915AACD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A9XEr-0sT-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD" Message-Id: <1066168917.3023.14.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 08:40:40.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[03A89370:01C392F8] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will, > We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying > woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received > it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on > it. Not a problem, with the amount of spam/viruses I've been getting recently I've been quite aggressive with the delete key on my inbox. :/ > There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but > we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned > out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I > returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that > weekend. I best try and fix the thread crasher! > At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. Thanks, glad you like it. Ross --=20 Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jHJVLQnkR9C0M98RAqIsAJwI/9Agz+zhSzimzgwOtF1ow29E8gCg4rme 8NSNhk5+1VUiLr0uzQ86PEY= =ptDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 14:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C718153; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7311318742 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031015182827.EBXO12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:27 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Bastien Nocera To: Ross Burton Cc: Will LaShell , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > > Ooh, s-j made it! > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) --- Bastien Nocera Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 15:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E921894B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172D1894B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:13:12 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066245192.16084.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 15 Oct 2003 12:13:11 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:28, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > > ... > > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > >=20 > > Ooh, s-j made it! > >=20 > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... >=20 > But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the > wit and wisdom to do their job properly. Hmmm, for some reason I thought it was in the desktop release. we can append it to the 2.4.1 release. :( I wish you'd hollered when the final beta list went out. Oh and of course it was revenge, for leaving our happy little group and depriving us of your splendorous company. :) Will --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jZxHZr3R5kgOZd0RAsIBAJ4qBTk7zkhtSnkf8mTek6ZuyVP4LACfW9C5 4GuNFcSVnfe5n0WBUHRJW2Y= =S6Eo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 08:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4F8186B3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8C185DC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9HCQv924577; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:27:00 +0100 Subject: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: GNOME Desktop Hackers Cc: "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:25:58 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch. libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9818888; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cougar.paw.za.org (cougar.paw.co.za [196.25.102.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C918D3A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by cougar.paw.za.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h9GDUDo08343; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: cougar.paw.za.org: apache set sender to djhouy@paw.za.org using -f Received: from 196.25.102.9 (proxying for 196.25.102.112) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djhouy) by webmail.paw.za.org with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Subject: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: "Derrick J Houy" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily see it and translate it." There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening it up for comments in this regard. Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be better off hosted at GNOME. The current CVS repository can be viewed at: http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ Regards, Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC7186DE; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (cosmos.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05CC18858; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vayu.gravity.psu.edu (vayu.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.55]) by cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h9HEtZS11124; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 Received: by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix, from userid 59058) id 96BFE52A8A; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96852A89; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Vandersloot To: Bastien Nocera Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Subject: Re: libgtop merging In-Reply-To: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Regards, Kevin > Hello, > > Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge > libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? > > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port > branch. > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the > module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. > > Cheers > > --- > Bastien Nocera > Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159CE181E5; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0DA181E5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9HGNOi13048; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:23:28 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Rose To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066407804.16742.1723.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 18:23:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: tor 2003-10-16 klockan 15.30 skrev Derrick J Houy: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. The home page seems to be http://www.paw.za.org/projects/gnome-alsamixer/. I'm personally all in favor of having this in GNOME CVS. Opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273518392; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0005.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914318392 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-080.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.80]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16CB53855E; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:52:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA46B3BE3; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC76C12B7BD; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer Message-ID: <20031017161737.GH28114@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Derrick J Houy , gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6-mm4 i686 Reply-By: Tue Oct 21 02:12:24 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 02:12:24 up 1 day, 9:29, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.08 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. Hi Derrick, Not only would I encourage you to use GNOME CVS for your project (our i18n team will love you), but you may want to get in touch with Ted Gould [1], maintainer of gnome-media, because the mixer needs some ALSA love! Perhaps it would make sense to combine the two? It has been discussed on gnome-multimedia list in the last couple of weeks, so is already in people's heads as a todo item, particularly since Linux 2.6 is well on its way. Thanks, - Jeff [1] Ted Gould -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "First: This is not a race." - Jody Goldberg on the Free Software desktop _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 16:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF18119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370718119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031017201845.VCRU13066.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:18:45 +0200 Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Schaller To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-multimedia@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066421941.1188.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 22:19:01 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Derrick, We plan on switching the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer 0.8.x for GNOME 2.6. The advantage of this is that we wouldn't need to compile the mixer with OSS or ALSA support (or any other sound architecture for that matter), but instead the mixer can be used with all the sound architectures we have support for in GStreamer. As mentioned by Mark so have we had a discussion on this on gnome-multimedia mailing list. If you would be interested in helping us with the alsa mixer support in GStreamer that would be really really wonderfull, in fact it would be highly needed. The OSS code is already in GStreamer CVS head and will be in our GStreamer 0.7.1 release that will happen in one of the next few days. Please either reply to this mail (think you can remove the gnome-hackers list from the cc'list and we take this onto gnome-multimedia) or come to #gstreamer on irc.freenode.com Ronald Bultje (BBB on IRC) is the person who has made both the OSS mixer interface in GStreamer and he has also made a mixer GUI for GNOME using it. Hope to hear back from you Derrick. Sincerely, Christian On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:30, Derrick J Houy wrote: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. > The current CVS repository can be viewed at: > http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ > > Regards, > Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 10:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ECA18412; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3118111; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0E16087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 15993-01; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32816023; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Kevin Vandersloot Cc: Bastien Nocera , GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:48 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: >=20 > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to d= o=20 > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory=20 > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) Cheers. >=20 > Regards, > Kevin --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/kqGAEuPMamD5V9cRAtkoAJ4nUg7gCoy9y+X6s4AF/UP7QiyL0wCghQtv 6VuNxewDr8Uoqx/0zXDJwhw= =NkhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 11:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B416186A6; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F48186A4; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031019152646.HWVY2637.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:46 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:45 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) --- Bastien Nocera Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides gently compressed by a Thigh Master. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 13:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D87186F0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC9183B0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58F1608B; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 16328-10; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3616087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribi=F3: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >=20 > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple = to do=20 > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directo= ry=20 > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts her= e. > >=20 > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) >=20 > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) Done, please, just test it. Cheers. P.S.: The old HEAD code has been branched as "before-gnome-2-0-merge" >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides > gently compressed by a Thigh Master.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ksRIEuPMamD5V9cRAnjVAJ4okHA4v5kyAbDypbM8m14pgmV5PwCfYAV0 2F4msBcLJf4iF7VRNanQ6P8= =AKD5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 22:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5763180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9F180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0980453A8DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4A3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:13 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3A8612B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 11:18:53 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 11:18:53 up 16:23, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.09, 0.06 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good morning all, I have a little story to tell. The other weekend, I went paintballing. This is an incredibly violent activity, in which two teams dress up in army green overalls, don scary helmets, and shoot water-based paint pellets at each other with semi-automatic gas-powered rifles. As I surveyed the battlefield, a thought struck me - as hard as those little welt-inducing pellets were hitting the other team - that all these crazy kids running around in green overalls and facemasks looked just like... DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP. http://art.gnome.org/images/icons/gnome-people/Dave.png So this week, YOU TOO can be just like DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP, by releasing your latest MINDNUMBINGLY COOL software for the first GNOME 2.5 series release. If you're not excited now, just wait until we send Dave around to convince you that RELEASES ARE COOL. He sharpens his teeth, by the way. THE NEW MODULES BIT: If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and will be following the 2.5 series releases. If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by Wednesday or Thursday this week. Thanks, - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Whoever wrote [the Twisted documentation] uses a vivid and interesting style of prose which triggers pleasure." - Francois Pinard _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 05:15:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4788181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D14181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A574153B622; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A493BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:26 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBE5812B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Xan Lopez Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 17:08:34 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 17:08:34 up 22:13, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.12 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > Good morning all, > (snip) > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > phases of the release process. > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. Thanks Xan, - Jeff [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:45:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F154188CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0B018104; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE94815231F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:15:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling against 2.2 will be fine? > > Thanks Xan, > > - Jeff > > [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from > procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB5188A1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from zugzwang.rosevear.com (CPE00045ae4cc2c-CM014410117597.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.114.92.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529FF18104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zugzwang.rosevear.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9K6ia1F010768 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:37 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: JP Rosevear To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> References: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian, Inc. Message-Id: <1066632275.10661.13.camel@zugzwang.rosevear.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:35 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 14:55, Nat Friedman wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November > 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial > information about the summit is available on the internet: Maybe this was covered while I was a way, but the registration form is pretty much US-centric if that makes a difference. -JP -- JP Rosevear Ximian, Inc. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 07:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA70181C5; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB751839F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9KBYf929515; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:34:42 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers , "gnome-i18n@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <1066649622.699.37.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:33:42 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 18:05, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribió: > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > > > > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) > > > > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) > > Done, please, just test it. GNOME 2.4 version is in the gnome-2-4 branch. I'm starting to clean up HEAD. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Even in his last years, Granddad had a mind like a steel trap, only one that had been left out so long it had rusted shut. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64801836C; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB67181E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C875539FF2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:05:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2073BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C49212B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 21:06:15 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:06:15 up 1 day, 2:11, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.02 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > against 2.2 will be fine? If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you won't be able to build half of the existing modules). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of "meme". _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650E188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD1188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEM31687; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEr20603; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.38]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMDt24974; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:13 -0400 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Owen Taylor To: Jeff Waugh Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:06 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 03:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CC2188E3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8E18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B991152374; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 (CEST) To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020120806.GA4658@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:06:52PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > > against 2.2 will be fine? > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). I guess it was an stupid question :-P... ok, then I'll have to check as soon as possible that everything works in the gnome system tools with gtk HEAD thanks > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of > "meme". > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9F18911; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14FB18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A3538FCF; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:21:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214CC3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D5F12B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Owen Taylor Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020122322.GI9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Owen Taylor , Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 22:23:07 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 22:23:07 up 1 day, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:22 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some > form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Awesome, thanks very much Owen! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and righteously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism." - Darwinian System Administration _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 15:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9KJgU720818; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: Mark Finlay Cc: Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford In-Reply-To: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mark Finlay writes: > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). > > There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on > HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems from GTK+ as we can. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178EA183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from helliconia (unknown [213.37.158.37]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17918145; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (helliconia [127.0.0.1]) by helliconia (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD79B807E; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Xan Lopez To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribió: > Good morning all, (snip) > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several phases of the release process. We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by > Wednesday or Thursday this week. > > Thanks, > > - Jeff -- "The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages -- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already" [Edward Abbey] xan, xan@masilla.org _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA91C183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c106-105.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.106.105]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC2180E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9KKAYKx004129; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Received: (from sisob@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9KKAYH2004127; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: sisob set sender to sisob@tuxfamily.org using -f Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Mark Finlay To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. -- Mark Finlay Computer Science Student E-Mail: sisob_AT_tuxfamily_DOT_org Jabber: sisob_AT_jabber_DOT_org Blog: http://sisob.tuxfamily.org http://advogato.org/person/sisob _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9954C180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-10.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.42]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4EB51821E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11244 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.henstridge.invalid) (203.59.242.135) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from daa.com.au (dhcp-236.henstridge.invalid [10.0.42.236]) by home.henstridge.invalid (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102A43CA; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:28 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> From: James Henstridge User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-AU; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030927 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Blandford Cc: Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0800 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 21/10/03 03:42, Jonathan Blandford wrote: >Mark Finlay writes: > > > >>>If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you >>>won't be able to build half of the existing modules). >>> >>> >>There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on >>HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. >> >> > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems >from GTK+ as we can. > > This does bring up the question of whether it is right to have these flags turned on by default in tarball builds at all though. Do we want released tarballs to stop building in the future because some library they use deprecated a symbol in a future version? It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code designed to provide this compatibility. I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind of like -Werror ...). James. -- Email: james@daa.com.au WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12679183DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD6180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90470538539; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65E3BE3; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5230D12B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021021723.GP9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: James Henstridge , Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 12:16:06 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 12:16:06 up 1 day, 17:21, 4 users, load average: 0.46, 0.20, 0.10 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform > if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code > designed to provide this compatibility. > > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; > just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind > of like -Werror ...). I was thinking about this last night too, but when it comes to stuff in the Desktop and Developer Platform releases, it probably makes sense to keep them in there (at least for the time being). Certainly other modules should remove them, unless there's a good reason not to. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "There are men with an appetite for fight and a sense of occasion, and then there is Waugh." - SMH, about Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 07:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1618938; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB831816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LBTWSF009353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:29:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:24 +0200 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: veillard@redhat.com, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: RE: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:12 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > getting approval or no dissent from them. Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 08:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2618963; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2C1896C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3063E5385B1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:43:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E37D3BE3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F135812B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-games 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031021124537.GX9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 22:41:12 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 22:41:12 up 2 days, 3:46, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > So here it is, the first release of the new unstable series of gnome-games > and quite frankly I think I've done an excellent job of trying to make it > unstable. Ha ha ha. :-) THAT'S THE SPIRIT! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ W.O.R.K: Weekend Over, Resume the Killings. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 22 05:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1845180DA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41930180DA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9M9ETW10361; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:29 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Qalculate! 0.3 From: Alexander Larsson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: Niklas Knutsson In-Reply-To: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066814068.15104.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 22 Oct 2003 11:14:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:22, Niklas Knutsson wrote: > Application > =========== > > Qalculate! 0.3 > > Description > =========== > > Qalculate! is a modern multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux. It > is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility underneath. > Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary precision, > plotting, and a graphical interface (GTK+) that uses an one-line > fault-tolerant expression entry (although it supports optional traditional > buttons). > > Enhancements > ============ > > This release adds arbitrary precision, fractions, matrices, RPN, function > and data plotting, boolean operations, exact mode, exchange rates, a new > math display widget, increased function flexibility, new functions, XML > data files... ... and bug fixes. Man, this app rules! Its everything a computer based desktop calculator should be, and more. I can finally stop using python to do simple calculations. Thank you, thank you, thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl@redhat.com alla@lysator.liu.se He's an otherworldly Republican sorceror for the 21st century. She's a psychotic antique-collecting lawyer living on borrowed time. They fight crime! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB2185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from akasha.mundoregio.com (unknown [66.6.75.106]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E718404; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amy.the-vox.com (dsl-200-67-6-15.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.6.15]) by akasha.mundoregio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD828000B; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Juan Pablo Mendoza To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066704422.21343.6.camel@amy.the-vox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 21:00, James Henstridge wrote: > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). Maybe GTK+ guys can, in the next release, deprecate with DISABLE_GTK_2_6_DEPRECATED ? > James. -- Juan Pablo Mendoza Monterrey, Nuevo León. México. http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FA6185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from november.skynet.be (november.skynet.be [195.238.3.59]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4618110; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ana.onshuis (253.43-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.43.253]) by november.skynet.be (8.12.9/8.12.9/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h9L8FOxK031559; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066724123.2260.51.camel@ana.onshuis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (november.skynet.be) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally > >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get > >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems > >from GTK+ as we can. > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). I agree. With GStreamer, we usually have Werror on for CVS and off for releases, and I was planning to add other stuff as well, like deprecation. I think it would make sense to do this for GNOME as well; hammer out as many bugs as possible from CVS, but make the releases as buildable as possible. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> I feel like I'm at something you always say you need more time Well I'll stay right here and I'll wait for good until I find a love worth mine <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E8185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE81182C4; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LB3d831353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021070339.B16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus>; from jdub@perkypants.org on Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a > release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and > release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and > will be following the 2.5 series releases. libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and getting approval or no dissent from them. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB50185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8584218825; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031021214222.JUIX5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:42:22 +0200 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GStreamer delivered From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers , gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066772562.1187.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 21 Oct 2003 23:42:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, We just released GStreamer 0.7.1 today. It is meant as the unstable release series for GNOME 2.5 leading up to shipping 0.8.0 with GNOME 2.6. As you all know we have been doing a stable GStreamer 0.6.x series now for the GNOME 2.2 and GNOME 2.4, but since the 0.6.x branch has reached its peaked we felt it was time to move forward with a new stable series based of CVS head. While this do constitute a breakage of ABI we will work together with Ted to make sure gnome-media is working well with the new branch. (I think sound-recorder also works with 0.7?) The new release will be mostly source compatible actually, which is why you can use current Rhythmbox with both the 0.6.x branch and this new 0.7.x branch. We will also migrate the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer with this release. Code for this is in GStreamer 0.7.1 and we have a new GNOME mixer in the gst-sandbox CVS module on gst.net. This we will try and get moved into gnome-multimedia as soon as possible to replace the current mixer. The advantage of this is that we can compile the gnome-mixer once and it will work with both ALSA and OSS under Linux or OSS or Solaris Audio on Solaris (1). The new 0.7.x branch has a lot of improvements compared to the 0.6 branch, especially for video applications as it supports more formats both for decoding/demuxing and for muxing/encoding. It also features good error handling, better typefinding and soon a new metadata system. There is probably also a tonn of other stuff in here I don't even remember now. Many people have been hacking on this for quite some while now in CVS :) Another feature of 0.7.x is that Thomas will soon be working fulltime on it :) I am working on a small technical summary of what we did at the GStreamer meeting in Barcelona last month and what we plan ahead. We will also be making a normal release announcement for GStreamer 0.7.1 with more details, but my planned effort on that today was derailed as I was commandeered elsewhere as part of my service to Larry :) (1) Solaris Audio and Alsa implementations missing atm, but we hope to solve that soonish :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB65185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00141816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LBlG816231; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021074716.C16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com>; from Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > > getting approval or no dissent from them. > > Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? I run GNOME 2.4 on libxml2 2.6.0 without troubles so far, yes. The couple of compatibility bugs which have been found in the 1.5 month it took to build 2.6.0 have been fixed immediately, In practice it should work, maybe with the exception of handling DocBook SGML docs, which I think should have been fixed by GNOME 2.4 anyway. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90019185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC28B181AA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ACqQA-00031C-Oz for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome.org #2666] new module and cvs account References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:45 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account information. Thanks for considering the project! Todd Christian Rose via RT wrote: > > [todd@dropline.net - Thu Oct 23 19:45:15 2003]: > >>I've been working on a CD burner using the GNOME 2.4 libraries, and >>was wondering if there was interest in putting the code into GNOME's >>CVS. I have a simple webpage setup with project details and >>screenshots at http://www.dropline.net/optimystic. There are also >>instructions for downloading the current code, but as it's hosted off >>of a cable modem, it is not a permanant solution. Does this look >>appropriate for GNOME CVS? > > > In my opinion yes, but please also suggest this on the > gnome-hackers@gnome.org mailing list -- that way more people will know > about the request and can state their opinions, and we can use the > general opinion on that list as a reference on whether we can import > this to GNOME CVS. > > Also, should people on gnome-hackers@gnome.org be positive about this, > we need more details from you in order to be able to create an account. > The list of details we need is at > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/policies/accounts/ . > > > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 07:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1118625; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAE318625 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9OBG1Y07211; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:16:01 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Rose To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 13:16:02 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > information. Thanks for considering the project! I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to GNOME CVS myself. Any opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A701879B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2F1849C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031024172806.XECR5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:28:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 19:28:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Todd, Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) Christian On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 13:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > > information. Thanks for considering the project! > > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. > > Any opinions? > > > Christian > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E518616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from as583.emma.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.248.82]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AD0x9-0004Nq-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Andrew Sobala To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN" Message-Id: <1066998148.4651.0.camel@gondor.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:28 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that=20 > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account=20 > > information. Thanks for considering the project! >=20 > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Yes, it looks nice and it would be great to have it in GNOME CVS. --=20 Andrew Sobala Given by our hand in the meadow that is called Runnymede, between Windsor and Staines, on the fifteenth day of June in the seventeenth year of our reign. --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mRmEBv9K3NCDvFYRAns3AJ4t4vx1RZzD/HTqKvBdofDCOldJSACfe8yR G9iFT1Sjd5e2KxN3c3+V9ys= =AdAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282618186 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [68.72.228.34] (helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.24) id 1AD2Kb-0004RY-4n; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xavier Bestel Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> In-Reply-To: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:19 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xavier Bestel wrote: > Does it use cdrecord ? > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems, porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079718154 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD1jP-0004HK-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 13:16, Christian Rose a =E9crit : > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Does it use cdrecord ? Xav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F9418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1EC18376 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD2j5-0004QX-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067004937.9771.3.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:38 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 15:50, Todd Kulesza a =E9crit : > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > Does it use cdrecord ? > >=20 >=20 > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the=20 > maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems,=20 > porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Oh sorry, I overlooked that on the web site. IMHO you should put it in the "features" section :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 18:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD18DCC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73018D97; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031024222520.PZDG12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Bastien Nocera To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067034319.5515.8.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:19 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) We already have a CD and DVD burner that works on more than just Linux... And if RB makes it, we can probably work towards having audio burning in there as well. --- Bastien Nocera Never do today that which will become someone elses responsibility tomorrow. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 19:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17E418DAE; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4818818; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:36:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Will LaShell To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Todd Kulesza , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:35:59 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. Will --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mbdfZr3R5kgOZd0RAlpQAKCQOJ4aqCrvHEOdXIFf5zqJuXY1PgCgnrsu DBxiRatmv0wVZV/BT4vCVow= =5vG9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52461818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E311810C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADG5L-0002mr-44; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99FCC0.50002@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will LaShell Cc: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller , Gnome Hackers Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> In-Reply-To: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:32:00 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Will LaShell wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > >>Hi Todd, >>Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it >>belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) > > > s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) > > But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. > Will > > Yeah, I wasn't planning on proposing Optimystic as the official GNOME CD burner; I just want a CVS home for it :) Fifth Toe, on the other hand, sounds perfectly appropriate once Optimystic's code has solidified. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA51818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB31182EB for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QFqCPh029545 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CHBG2Y6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CHCG2Z6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tO7FuKxFCiQjB1K07YWTpg== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Christian, > We are doing a push to create a large collection of flags available > in SVG format. To accomplish this we need as many people as possible to > get involved and send us a SVG version of their local flags. > > Please check out our article on gnomedesktop.org > http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1421&mode=&order=0&thold=1 Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. For more on the faces project see: http://faces.sourceforge.net http://www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30E41818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48618844 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QGtYxA018656 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CMIJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: C7J1hxLj38WJRXW/zy9hVw== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > ... > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a vector format. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 16:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F112187C9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:53:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB615187C9 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hhlinux.no.oracle.com ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031026213452.WDGG13165.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@hhlinux.no.oracle.com>; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:34:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Christian Schaller To: Rich Burridge Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:39:55 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of submissions :) Christian On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > ... > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > vector format. > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 17:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC851819E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:43:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB8B184B1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (xkahn@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Benjamin Kahn To: Christian Schaller Cc: Rich Burridge , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067208132.11391.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:12 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, The application you're looking for is called autotrace. The frontend is called frontline. You can find them here: http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/ http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/frontline It works okay, although it's a fairly manual process. (Actually, it might get more automatic if you have a bunch of similar images.) My experience shows that it's good for starting the sketch, but works best if you're prepared to clean the image up afterward. On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 16:39, Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi Rich, > I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of > the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of > submissions :) > > Christian > > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > > ... > > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > > vector format. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers -- Benjamin Kahn Special Projects W: 617 / 375 - 3811 Support Manager F: 401 / 712 - 8649 Security Team _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 23:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB6182B9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:12:49 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from esco.mine.nu (c-67-167-205-161.client.comcast.net [67.167.205.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B59181B4; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jcape by esco.mine.nu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ADyjy-00007B-Fr; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Subject: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: "James M. Cape" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB" Organization: Project Mayhem Message-Id: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the GTcpSocket library, and is available at: http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. It's currently broken due to the massive API/code organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does build, and will definately be stable (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread issues re: closing sockets). The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: GNet: + Uses GObject. + Multi-threaded. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + Easily extensible. + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Link: + Not private to ORBit :-). + More detailed signals and error reporting. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). GTcpSocket: + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). GnomeVFS: + GObject. + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate verification, for example). + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). And most importantly, it'll be used by gnome-network :-). To get an idea of how it's used: void sent_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void recv_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void error_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, GError * error, gpointer user_data); void cxn_starter (gpointer data) { GObject *cxn; cxn =3D gnetwork_tcp_connection_new (GNETWORK_TCP_PROXY_HTTP, "127.0.0.1", 80); g_signal_connect (cxn, "notify::tcp-status", notify_tcp_status_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "sent", sent_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "received", recv_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "error", error_cb, NULL); gnetwork_connection_open (GNETWORK_CONNECTION (cxn)); } There's also a server object :-). --=20 Peace, Jim Cape http://ignore-your.tv "It is literally true that, like Christianity, Socialism has conquered the world by defeating itself." -- Alexander Berkman, ABC of Anarchism --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nJspCSU9pcw97v0RAhmcAKCzuQPdp7uSVz+ATEXB40QCZAAecQCg1jON ttcwA+sOzlgAPCZdCKAWEXQ= =xggU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 02:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54F189D7; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:13:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2E189D0; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-132.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.132]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305D538054; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:09:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4F3BE3; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B8212BA10; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031027071202.GY9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: "James M. Cape" , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Reply-By: Thu Oct 30 18:10:45 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 18:10:45 up 7 days, 22:15, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. (It's not too late as a general 2.6 proposed module, or for 2.5.0 - looks like we're going to have all kinds of *_DEPRECATED problems, so 2.5.0 is virtually on hold at the moment. Hoping to resolve that this week. You should probably send this email to desktop-devel-list too. Thanks!) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2E18A34; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:40:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from soumis.mandrakesoft.com (ezoffice.mandrakesoft.com [212.11.15.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CBA18A06; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinidad.mandrakesoft.com (trinidad.mandrakesoft.com [192.168.100.216]) by soumis.mandrakesoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D367; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:39:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Frederic Crozat To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Organization: Mandrakesoft Message-Id: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:33 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lun 27/10/2003 à 05:12, James M. Cape a écrit : > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Link: I think you mean linc > + Not private to ORBit :-). This is no longer the case.. With ORBit 2.8.x, linc was merged back into ORBit2 as linc2 > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the future.. -- Frederic Crozat Mandrakesoft _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13EA18A47; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725DE189EE; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95216022; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08475-05; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598051608D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Frederic Crozat Cc: "James M. Cape" , GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067251955.31096.77.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:35 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:37, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will > no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. > evolution 2.0 will still be using soup. > Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in > one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will > probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the > future.. > that was my main goal when talking with Jim about merging libgtcpsocket into libgnetwork. I think libgnetwork now provides a good base, and we just need to adapt the code in other libraries to it. One of the most interesting things might be to add libsoup's HTTP/HTTPS implementation, which is working pretty well now for evo 2.0 thanks to Dan Winship. Also, gmdns will be integrated very soon. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 18:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5C18B4D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:48:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (wintermute.sr.unh.edu [132.177.241.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AD181A5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RDaVPW010578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Received: (from tjb@localhost) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h9RDaVkc010576 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: wintermute.sr.unh.edu: tjb set sender to tjb@unh.edu using -f Subject: Re: New Wallpaper Properties Dialog From: "Thomas J. Baker" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> References: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO" Organization: University of New Hampshire's Research Computing Center Message-Id: <1067261791.10205.1.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-5) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 19:18, Rodney Dawes wrote: > I have just released the initial revision of the new wallpaper capplet > that I have been working on in my spare time, and has been under > discussion on gnome-themes-list. This initial release is quite > featureful, yet it is still missing the "random" feature that was in > my mock up, as well as some other features and functionality that are > outlined in the TODO file that is included in the tarball. >=20 > The main feature is the storage of meta-data and the list of available > wallpapers, in an XML file in ~/.gnome2/. For each individual image, the > filename, a descriptive name, image scaling type, background color type, > and background colors are all stored. There is no DTD yet, but one will > be written for the next release. >=20 > Also left to do, is to write the logic for detecting if the image is a > tile or should be scaled or what. It currently detects most tiled images > already though, on the basis of height vs. width. If they are the same, > Tiled is automatically selected. >=20 > I'm also proposing that we replace the current capplet(s) with this one > for GNOME 2.6. >=20 > Here are the relevant URLs: >=20 > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-real.png > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-0.2.0.tar.gz >=20 > -- dobey I don't know if it's possible or not but is there any hope of getting multimonitor support for wallpapers. It would be nice if it could detect multiple monitors and allow for different images on each. Thanks, tjb --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Thomas Baker email: tjb@unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nR9foCtjjhzuY8QRAiyZAKCD4IF1BwCw8wOt4c503Zd5XCn+cwCggDBg d5mHc+mU9zYB85R8sK+YgO4= =ZjQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 03:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0021815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:13:04 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F21815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9S8AQoB002128; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:09 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'm trying to get > libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the > GTcpSocket library, and is available > at: > > http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz > > and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. You need to update the README for the new project name, and you should add a MAINTAINERS file. Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful than the other networky APIs? For instance, it looks like it would be useful for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. Compared to libgnetwork, I guess that interprocess communication would be better done with dbus or CORBA, and reading/writing of file-based information would be better done with gnome-vfs. Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > build, and will definately be stable > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > issues re: closing sockets). > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: GNet == libgnetwork, right? > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on December 8th, by the way: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > Link: > + Not private to ORBit :-). > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Linc has been removed from the public API of the Development Platform, so it's no longer really relevant. > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). Non-HTTP: HTTP? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 04:22:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4391813F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BF1813F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-eris-2 ([129.156.85.26]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9M3UP028409 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slipstream (vpn-129-150-153-4.Aus.Sun.COM [129.150.153.4]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG001K9NCNM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:22:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Glynn Foster Subject: [Fwd: Call for Submissions: Tutorials] To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1067422727.2276.27.camel@slipstream> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR" X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:18:47 -1200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Just in case anyone feels like earning a bit of money ;) Glynn --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Call for Submissions: Tutorials Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-path: Received: from eris-mail1.uk.sun.com [129.156.85.66] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.13) for gman@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:14:16 -1200 (GMT+12) Received: from sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.220.30]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG00105MZHM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for Glynn.Foster@Sun.COM; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.246.180]) by sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E3ih000835 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.42.13]) by sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E2C08415 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay21.sun.com (relay21.sun.com [192.12.251.14] (may be forged)) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9E2UP025089 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.30] [150.143.232.30]) by relay21i.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:02 +0000 (Z) Received: from mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com (mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com [192.12.251.50]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from mail.ltt.de ([62.159.60.178] [62.159.60.178]) by relay23.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from ltt.de ([192.168.50.101]) by mail.ltt.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13796; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:18:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:10:45 +0100 From: Roberto Zicari Subject: Call for Submissions: Tutorials To: proctors , Glynn Foster Message-id: <3F9E3296.BA0C734E@ltt.de> Organization: LogOn Technology Transfer GmbH MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE Original-recipient: rfc822;glynn.foster@sun.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI-- Regards Roberto Zicari ---------------------------------------------------------------- LogOn Technology Transfer is looking for tutorial submissions for its new series of LogOn Briefings. The following three series of Briefings are taking place in co-location in January 2004: LogOn Briefing: OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Open Source & Linux@work Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Security (Protect your Business) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 The LogOn Briefings are building upon the established series of OMG Information Days and Linux@work. Each LogOn Briefing will offer a broad technical tutorial program in the morning. The afternoons are dedicated to corporate lectures, vendor neutral case studies, keynotes, and an exhibition. ** This call is for tutorial submissions. ** ############################################# Call for tutorial submissions -- Instructions: Submissions for the morning tutorial program should cover a **technical** subject, related to one of the three topics of the briefings: - OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) - Open Source & Linux@work - Security (Protect your Business) A detailed list of event topics can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/call-for-submissions.shtml The tutorials are addressed to a technical audience that is looking for in depth education on specific topics. Tutorial sessions will be 3 hrs long. Speaker Compensation: EUR 400 flat plus 1 night hotel Interested individuals or organisations are invited to submit +++ not later than October 31, 2003 +++ a brief abstract of the presentation, including a short biography of the presenter. Abstract length should be no longer than 1 page or 150 words. Submissions should be sent using the form at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/submissions-form.shtml Any questions can be addressed to: Mr. Matthias Neumann Conference Management LogOn Technology Transfer e-mail: neumann@ltt.de Background Information: For a look at past OMG Information Days and Linux@work events including final reports and photos, please visit http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/final-report.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/final-report.shtml Attendee profile and events evaluation can be found at http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/evaluation.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/evaluation.shtml A sample of past tutorials can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/tutorial-sample.shtml ## --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 07:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF7185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C85185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0116097; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 29136-08; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC48160DA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067344232.19535.63.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:32 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:13, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful > than the other networky APIs? > the idea is that there are a lot of network APIs out there, but none is standardized enough to be in the GNOME platform. When we re-started gnome-network, we wanted to fix that, by providing a rule-them-all library (thanks fcrozat for the term :-) to be included in the GNOME platform. We tried to contact gnet's maintainer, but didn't get any answer, so then we found libgtcpsocket, and asked James about renaming it to libgnetwork and push it for inclusion in GNOME 2.6. We chose libgtcpsocket because it is the best networking API I've found myself. It's GObject-based (as opposed to gnet, which isn't) and provides a very good base for building more high-level networking services. > For instance, it looks like it would be useful > for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and > maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. > yes, but not only for servers, but also for clients. One of the examples of this is libgircclient, in CVS also, which uses libgtcpsocket (still) for implementing an IRC client. This libgircclient might be added also to libgnetwork. > Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the > GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? > I'd vote for the platform, if possible. If not, just to the desktop so that gnome-network can use it. But I think it would be a good idea to provide a standard networking API in the GNOME platform, as many other OSes/environments provide. > I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies > that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure > personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > > build, and will definately be stable > > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > > issues re: closing sockets). > > > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > > > GNet: > > GNet == libgnetwork, right? > no, gnet -> http://www.gnetlibrary.org/ > > + Uses GObject. > > + Multi-threaded. > > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > > + Easily extensible. > > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on > December 8th, by the way: > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > I intend to integrate, if time permits, gmdns into this library, which uses, AFAIK, UDP, so we might probably have a UDP implementation by then. About UNIX sockets, I don't know what James is planning, but it might be a very good idea to add it. > > > GTcpSocket: > > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > it's been renamed, and it is being changed to not only allow TCP, but any sort of network connection. That's what the 'Much cleaner object hierarchy' talks about. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 08:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8818AFE; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:27:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4DE18ACC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SDMdoB024779; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:40 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: rodrigo@gnome-db.org Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to > having all GNOME applications using this for their networking > access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which > would be a good move. Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use it. Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 09:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF04F18B5E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:42:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAFE18B2C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C63E53840A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:38:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278E93BE3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:38 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD30E12BA10; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031028144037.GZ9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com, rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Reply-By: Sat Nov 1 01:33:14 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:33:14 up 9 days, 5:38, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] well, if we push it > > right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications > > using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, > > etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before > being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the > Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed > by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the > meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use > it. Agree. I would *very strongly* recommend that we *always* shift new libraries into the Desktop (or another appropriate release set or transition module, such as Office and libegg) before attempting to get them into the platform. We've made mistakes like this in the past, and we ought to have learned from them. Linus gets this right - stuff goes in when it's proven and in use. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "NASCAR is not race per se. It's just a contest about who can turn left the best." - Unknown _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EC1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35FE1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90625380A6; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263843BE3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:09 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE0CC12BA10; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Subject: Announcing GNOME.conf.au 2004 Message-ID: <20031030010508.GJ7082@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Sun Nov 2 12:03:25 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 12:03:25 up 10 days, 16:08, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gooooooood morning everybody! Announcing the first Australian GNOME.conf.au 2004 hacker's conference! Who'll be coming? ----------------- Havoc Pennington! James Henstridge! Plus lots of other people who haven't told me they're coming yet! Stay tuned for more info. When? Where? ------------ 12th-13th January, 2004, in the great city of Adelaide, in co-operation with Australia's premier Free Software and Open Source developer's conference, linux.conf.au! Check out their site (http://lca2004.linux.org.au/) for all the details on the main conference and for conference registration. It's going to kick serious arse again! Note that you must be attending the full conference to join in with the GNOME.conf.au fun, not that you'd seriously consider missing the main event! What? Why? ---------- On Monday, a selection of casual presentations, mini-tutorials and technical demos. On Tuesday, a hackfest! We'll have a list of things soon, but not a proper schedule. That would restrict our creativity (read: potential laziness, beer intake and hacking time). Further news will appear on the GNOME.conf.au webite: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ "IBM is the proud Penguin Sponsor of Linux.Conf.Au 2004" Thanks, - Jeff -- Come to gnome.conf.au 2004! http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ Wake up and smell the penguin. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:11:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195D187B6; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:11:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from 3rivieres.vuntz.net (3rivieres.vuntz.net [80.65.224.121]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD836187B5; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id B63083D16; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from brindas (brindas.vuntz.net [10.0.0.4]) by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC23D05; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from vuntz by brindas with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AF1Ks-0000Lp-00; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: foundation-announce@gnome.org, foundation-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Reminder - GNOME Foundation elections Message-ID: <20031030011050.GB638@vuntz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, This is a reminder for the elections for the GNOME Foundation. If you want to be able to vote or to be a candidate for the elections, please apply for membership before October 31st, 23:59 UTC. There's only 2 days left to apply before the membership committee closes the applications for the elections. You can apply using the form at: http://foundation.gnome.org/membership-form.php You can look at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/voters.html to see people who will be able to vote as of October 30th. Please look at this list before applying for membership or renewing your membership: you don't need to apply if you're in the list. If you want to be a candidate, please announce your candidacy before November 7th, 23:59 UTC. You may nominate yourself to run for election by sending an e-mail to foundation-announce@gnome.org with your name, e-mail address, corporate affiliation (if any), and a description of why you'd like to serve. You should also send a summary of your candidacy announcement (75 words or less) to elections@gnome.org. Timeline -------- (all deadlines are 23:59 UTC/18:59 EST) October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23(24)25 list of candidates opened (24th) -26-27-28-29-30(31)-- WE ARE HERE applications/renewals closed for elections (31st) November 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 (7) 8 start collecting questions for the candidates (3rd) all candidates must be announced (7th), questions to be sent to the candidates are choosed (7th) 9(10)11 12 13 14 15 announce list of candidates running for election, questions emailed to all candidates (10th) 16 17 18 19 20(21)22 ballots go out (21st) 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 December 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 all ballots must be returned (5th) 7 (8) 9 10 11 12 13 preliminary election result announced (8th) 14 15 16 17 18(19)20 challenges to election results close (19th) 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 In the case of a tie, there's another round of votes starting December 8th and ending December 15th. Questions --------- For the complete announcement of the elections, please see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2003-October/msg00001.html For more information, please look at the elections procedures at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/rules.html. If you have any questions, feel free to send them to elections@gnome.org or to foundation-list@gnome.org. The GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Eric Baudais Andy Tai Ghee Teo Vincent Untz -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas presses. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460E518519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.capital.lv (ns.luxcontrol.lv [195.13.243.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025B418832 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dinozaurs ([192.168.200.60]) by mail.capital.lv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:33 +0300 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Pavels Nikolajevs Reply-To: pavels@capital.lv To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI" Organization: Capital Message-Id: <1065186427.12574.2.camel@dinozaurs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2003 13:04:33.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3C996A0:01C389AE] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:07:07 +0300 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: 
Application
===========

Gnome Multires 0.4

Description
===========

Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of
desktop resolution and refresh rate.

Enhancements
============
Add Xrandr support

Download
========

http://multires.sourceforge.net

GNOME Software Map entry
========================

http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires

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gnome-announce-list mailing list
gnome-announce-list@gnome.org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list
--=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8418519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EFF186F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 417); 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from dbraylaptop.health-first.org ([208.143.232.66]) (AUTH: LOGIN thelupine@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Lupine Reply-To: thelupine@evilfucker.com To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Message-Id: <1065187288.858.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:21:28 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list > Very nice applet!!!! Thanks!!!! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Thu Oct 9 07:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7918892; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-12.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 496ED18877 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8459 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 11:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.perkypants.org) (203.217.23.133) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 11:24:53 -0000 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89E3C89; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02E6112B6F5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 Message-ID: <20031009112509.GK21801@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6 i686 Reply-By: Sun Oct 12 21:17:40 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:17:40 up 7 days, 1:59, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey hey crazy kids! IT'S RELEASE TIME AGAIN! In the Great and Wise words of Wayne and Garth... "A Schedule Says 'What'?" ... This time around, a schedule says that GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 tarballs are due on Monday, October 13th! That's next week! Schedule: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ Calendar with today and October 13th highlighted: October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9)10 11 <- TODAY! 12(13)14 15 16 17 18 <- TARBALLS DUE! 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Thanks! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary." - mpt _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1018837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (yonge.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.1.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEADD18364 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jane.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.31]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <199803-19411>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:48 -0400 Received: from qew.cs.toronto.edu by jane.cs.toronto.edu id <453283-20154>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:39 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod X-X-Sender: behdad@qew.cs To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 In-Reply-To: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Message-ID: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Michael Meeks wrote: > OpenOffice.org build: > > This package contains the Gnome integration work for > OpenOffice.org, and a much simplified build wrapper, making an OO.o > build / install possible for the common man.[1] It is a staging ground > for up-streaming patches to OO.o. Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same thing that is going to be in Fedora? My main question follows. > Changes in this release: > + features > + new, sized, alpha fixed icons (Tigert, Jimmac) > + scroll-wheel quickhelp less annoying (Michael) > + system-zlib, system-getopt (from Mdk, Rene) > + nice bonobo component (Martin Kretzchmar) > + configure with --enable-bonobo > + bug fixes > + relocate now prunes stale .dpcc files (Michael) > + problems in toolbox customize (Michael) > + --with-system-gcc fix (Michael, Robin Cook) > + print-scale fix (Dan Williams, Michael) > + File->New i18n fix (Michael) > > This is mainly a quick release before Josh's nice de-java-ised build > patch-set lands, expect that next release. > > Package available from: > > http://ooo.ximian.com/packages/OOO_1_1_0/ooo-build-1.1.44.tar.gz > > To find out more see http://ooo.ximian.com/ and/or subscribe to our > Gnome / OO.o development mailing list at: > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/openoffice. > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > idle CPU time. Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws some characters that should be removed before drawing (like U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that if that's the case. Thanks behdad, who is going to study after finishing this mail. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124B18837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA181C2F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26032 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gargantuan.boston.ximian.com) (nat@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Subject: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: Nat Friedman To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065725736.8051.36.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:58:50 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everyone, We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial information about the summit is available on the internet: http://www.nylxs.com/events/gnome Similar in spirit to the 2002 Summit in sunny Boston, the objective of this event is to get the GNOME hackers together in the same place to facilitate coordination, planning, and a general sense of love and spiritual well-being. For those of you who attended the summit in 2002, we have learned from your feedback and therefore this event will be even less formal and more free-form than the previous year's. There will be few to no scheduled sessions, and the emphasis will be on providing facilities and a common location for contributors to get together. For those of you who did not attend last year, we hope that you can make it in November. This year, we are not requiring that you be a GNOME Foundation member to attend. This summit is being organized by NYLXS, the New York GNU Linux Scene, who have been kind enough to organize all the facilities and accommodations for the event. As with last year, you are responsible for finding accommodations yourself. Very soon, some helpful information will appear on the summit web page with information about nearby hotels and other arrangements. Contact information for Lewis Travel, who can help you arrange your travel, is already available. We do ask that you register using the registration mechanism on the summit web page. Questions about the summit should be directed to Ruben Safir . Over and out, Nat _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516A181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9418144 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw3vk002012 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:03 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961E181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9F18289 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw4vk002021 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c39042$bf92b510$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 12:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F753180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB2180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031012160741.RLIE2197.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:41 +0100 Subject: Re: totem 0.99.1 From: Bastien Nocera To: Mark McLoughlin Cc: Gnome Hackers , Gnome-i18n In-Reply-To: <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> References: <1056315067.5796.15.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1056374346.18838.13.camel@localhost> <1056375576.10530.31216.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065974860.5503.55.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:40 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:58, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:39, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:19, Vincent van Adrighem wrote: > > > > > Dutch (Vincent van Adrighem) > > > > > > It's very nice of you to put my name up here, but I didn't do the > > > translation here. I'm merely the one with CVS-access as you can see > > > here: > > > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvslog.cgi?file=totem%2Fpo%2F/nl.po&rev=HEAD&root=/cvs/gnome > > > > > > My translators are getting grumpy because they don't get the credit for > > > their translations. And naturally I completely agree with them. :-) Your > > > module is not the only one where this mistake is being made, so nothing > > > directed at you in particular of course. But my translators would really > > > like to see their name in the credits. > > > > Mistake on my part, you'll see for example that the Bulgarian > > translation is rightly credited, although Yanko committed it. > > I've made the mistake quite a few time too, I'm sure. Its not intended > ... I don't think we'd bother doing translators lists if we didn't want > them to be credited correctly :-) > > I used to compile the list from the ChangeLog, and it would have been a > lot easier to not make these mistakes if the person committing put the > translator's name in the entry header rather than the committer. > > Kenneth suggested to me that we use "Last-Translator:" from the .po > file ... so I put a script in releng/single_module/tools/ which pulls > the list of translators since a given tag ... Well, either it's broken, or I'm doing something wrong. The awk-fu doesn't actually print anything out when I try it on Totem. So I added a Perl version that does pretty much the same thing but works for me :) --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 19:36:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2FA18330; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net [63.226.138.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 519DE18330 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62111 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lashell.net) (216.161.210.116) by mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> From: Will LaShell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Hackers , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:37:09 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Welcome to Fifth Toe 2.4.0 The Fifth Toe release is a collection of cool, useful and fun GNOME applications. You can find a wide variety of applications in our latest release. The included applications range from Gnumeric an excellent spreadsheet application to gaim a well known instant messaging client. We would like to take the time now to thank everyone who has helped make the 2.3 beta series and this 2.4 release possible. We would especially like to thank the maintainers of the applications in the Fifth Toe release. Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. Abiword 2.0.0 - cross platform word processor balsa 2.0.15 - email client camorama 0.17 - web cam client with upload capabilities dia 0.91 - diagram application drivel 0.9.1 - a dropline web logging client gaim 0.70 - multi protocol instant messaging client galeon 1.3.9 - web browser gcompris 3.2 - children's educational games gDeskCal 0.54 - desktop calender application ghex 2.3 - hex editor glade 2.0.0 - GTK/GNOME gui designer gnomeicu 0.99 - icq client gnotime 2.1.7 - time tracker application gnumeric 1.2.0 - spreadsheet application gob2 2.0.6 - GObject builder library gpaint2 0.2.3 - simple graphics program gswitchit 2.3.3 - keyboard layout manager gtetrinet 0.7.5 - tetrinet client gthumb 2.1.6 - Thumbnailing application gurlchecker 0.6.0 - url checking application hardware monitor 0.7 - system monitoring applet heartbeat 0.2 - server monitoring system libgda / libgnomedb 1.0 - gnome database libraries meld 0.8.5 - visual diff and merge utility mergeant 0.12.1 - gui database tool monster masher 1.3 - multi level game mrproject 0.9.1 - project and resource management application pan 0.14.2 - usenet client regexxer 0.4 - regular expression build and test suite seahorse 0.7.3 - gnugpg client seti-applet 2.1.3 - seti client applet sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility streamtuner 0.10.0 - Internet music stream browser tsclient 0.120.0 - remote desktop client workrave 1.4.0 - Repetitive stress injury prevention utility xchat 2.0.5 - IRC client _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 05:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6259518334; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02CD18334 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:01:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 22:58, Chris Chabot wrote: > > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > > idle CPU time. > > > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > > if that's the case. > > It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in > these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very > complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. Quite; of course spare CPU time is not such a problem - most people are not belting their CPU overnight; it's really just a disk-space issue. Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Anyhow - this question really belongs on the mailing list that was linked in the announcement itself; where Dan lurks who can help you with Fedora OO.o questions too. HTH, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 13:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C75180DF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from rover24.cmt (unknown [62.138.132.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC318788 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shawn (unknown [192.168.60.57]) by rover24.cmt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3CC7A20; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by shawn (Postfix, from userid 1050) id DB760A55; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Chris Halls To: Michael Meeks Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 Message-ID: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Meeks , Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:16 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Uuuh.. $ deliver.pl -h deliver -- version: 1.50.8.1 deliver: ERROR: invalid option -h Usage: deliver [-force] [-minor] [-check] [-zip] [-delete] [destination-path] Options: -force copy even if not newer -minor deliver into minor -check just print what would happen, no actual copying of files -zip create additional zip files of delivered content -delete delete files, use with care -link hard link files into the solver to save disk space -deloutput remove the output tree The option -zip and a destination-path are mutually exclusive deliver -link will hardlink into the solver deliver -deloutput will delete the output directory too I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Chris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 14:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138D1812C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smithers.nildram.co.uk (smithers.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCEE1812C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (81-6-246-88.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.246.88]) by smithers.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5E24E86E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A8xJl-40z-00; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > ... > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility Ooh, s-j made it! Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB781818A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDD181A6 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9DLn2c32386; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Deprecating widgets in libgnomeui X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Given that we're now compiling GNOME with GTK+-2.3, I've gone through libgnomeui and deprecated a number of widgets. GnomeColorPicker GnomeEntry GnomeFileEntry GnomeFontPicker GnomePixmapEntry GnomePopupMenu In addition, I deprecated gnome-window.h because it was pretty silly and didn't agree with the HIG at all. All of these widgets have an equivalents in GTK+. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7E184B7; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38F184B7 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Ross Burton Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 14:55:34 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility >=20 > Ooh, s-j made it! >=20 > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on it. There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that weekend. At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. --Will >=20 > Ross > --=20 > Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com > jabber: ross@burtonini.com > www: http://www.burtonini.com./ > PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ix9VZr3R5kgOZd0RApUJAKCc4fl7LFz/mtd03Yu+Tn1FkNbxUQCcCUba xxKzj0j1xkQHYDJvbjLKVcM= =FGf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 14 05:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78918782; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B6018782 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Halls Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066124721.32481.14.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:45:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Chris, On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Chris Halls wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; > > Uuuh.. Oh ! :-) fascinating; how can we enable this by default in the build ? [ and/or is that a good idea ? ]. > I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to > build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Sounds like my laptop ;-) Regards, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 04:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F0C1823B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DC18488 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lionel.180sw.com ([82.44.126.41]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:40:40 +0100 Received: from burtonini.com (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by lionel.180sw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F37915AACD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A9XEr-0sT-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD" Message-Id: <1066168917.3023.14.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 08:40:40.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[03A89370:01C392F8] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will, > We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying > woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received > it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on > it. Not a problem, with the amount of spam/viruses I've been getting recently I've been quite aggressive with the delete key on my inbox. :/ > There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but > we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned > out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I > returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that > weekend. I best try and fix the thread crasher! > At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. Thanks, glad you like it. Ross --=20 Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jHJVLQnkR9C0M98RAqIsAJwI/9Agz+zhSzimzgwOtF1ow29E8gCg4rme 8NSNhk5+1VUiLr0uzQ86PEY= =ptDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 14:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C718153; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7311318742 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031015182827.EBXO12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:27 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Bastien Nocera To: Ross Burton Cc: Will LaShell , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > > Ooh, s-j made it! > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) --- Bastien Nocera Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 15:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E921894B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172D1894B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:13:12 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066245192.16084.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 15 Oct 2003 12:13:11 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:28, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > > ... > > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > >=20 > > Ooh, s-j made it! > >=20 > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... >=20 > But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the > wit and wisdom to do their job properly. Hmmm, for some reason I thought it was in the desktop release. we can append it to the 2.4.1 release. :( I wish you'd hollered when the final beta list went out. Oh and of course it was revenge, for leaving our happy little group and depriving us of your splendorous company. :) Will --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jZxHZr3R5kgOZd0RAsIBAJ4qBTk7zkhtSnkf8mTek6ZuyVP4LACfW9C5 4GuNFcSVnfe5n0WBUHRJW2Y= =S6Eo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 08:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4F8186B3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8C185DC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9HCQv924577; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:27:00 +0100 Subject: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: GNOME Desktop Hackers Cc: "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:25:58 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch. libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9818888; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cougar.paw.za.org (cougar.paw.co.za [196.25.102.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C918D3A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by cougar.paw.za.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h9GDUDo08343; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: cougar.paw.za.org: apache set sender to djhouy@paw.za.org using -f Received: from 196.25.102.9 (proxying for 196.25.102.112) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djhouy) by webmail.paw.za.org with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Subject: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: "Derrick J Houy" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily see it and translate it." There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening it up for comments in this regard. Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be better off hosted at GNOME. The current CVS repository can be viewed at: http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ Regards, Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC7186DE; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (cosmos.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05CC18858; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vayu.gravity.psu.edu (vayu.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.55]) by cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h9HEtZS11124; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 Received: by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix, from userid 59058) id 96BFE52A8A; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96852A89; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Vandersloot To: Bastien Nocera Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Subject: Re: libgtop merging In-Reply-To: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Regards, Kevin > Hello, > > Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge > libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? > > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port > branch. > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the > module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. > > Cheers > > --- > Bastien Nocera > Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159CE181E5; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0DA181E5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9HGNOi13048; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:23:28 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Rose To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066407804.16742.1723.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 18:23:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: tor 2003-10-16 klockan 15.30 skrev Derrick J Houy: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. The home page seems to be http://www.paw.za.org/projects/gnome-alsamixer/. I'm personally all in favor of having this in GNOME CVS. Opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273518392; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0005.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914318392 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-080.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.80]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16CB53855E; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:52:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA46B3BE3; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC76C12B7BD; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer Message-ID: <20031017161737.GH28114@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Derrick J Houy , gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6-mm4 i686 Reply-By: Tue Oct 21 02:12:24 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 02:12:24 up 1 day, 9:29, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.08 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. Hi Derrick, Not only would I encourage you to use GNOME CVS for your project (our i18n team will love you), but you may want to get in touch with Ted Gould [1], maintainer of gnome-media, because the mixer needs some ALSA love! Perhaps it would make sense to combine the two? It has been discussed on gnome-multimedia list in the last couple of weeks, so is already in people's heads as a todo item, particularly since Linux 2.6 is well on its way. Thanks, - Jeff [1] Ted Gould -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "First: This is not a race." - Jody Goldberg on the Free Software desktop _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 16:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF18119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370718119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031017201845.VCRU13066.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:18:45 +0200 Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Schaller To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-multimedia@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066421941.1188.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 22:19:01 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Derrick, We plan on switching the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer 0.8.x for GNOME 2.6. The advantage of this is that we wouldn't need to compile the mixer with OSS or ALSA support (or any other sound architecture for that matter), but instead the mixer can be used with all the sound architectures we have support for in GStreamer. As mentioned by Mark so have we had a discussion on this on gnome-multimedia mailing list. If you would be interested in helping us with the alsa mixer support in GStreamer that would be really really wonderfull, in fact it would be highly needed. The OSS code is already in GStreamer CVS head and will be in our GStreamer 0.7.1 release that will happen in one of the next few days. Please either reply to this mail (think you can remove the gnome-hackers list from the cc'list and we take this onto gnome-multimedia) or come to #gstreamer on irc.freenode.com Ronald Bultje (BBB on IRC) is the person who has made both the OSS mixer interface in GStreamer and he has also made a mixer GUI for GNOME using it. Hope to hear back from you Derrick. Sincerely, Christian On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:30, Derrick J Houy wrote: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. > The current CVS repository can be viewed at: > http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ > > Regards, > Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 10:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ECA18412; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3118111; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0E16087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 15993-01; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32816023; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Kevin Vandersloot Cc: Bastien Nocera , GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:48 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: >=20 > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to d= o=20 > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory=20 > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) Cheers. >=20 > Regards, > Kevin --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/kqGAEuPMamD5V9cRAtkoAJ4nUg7gCoy9y+X6s4AF/UP7QiyL0wCghQtv 6VuNxewDr8Uoqx/0zXDJwhw= =NkhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 11:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B416186A6; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F48186A4; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031019152646.HWVY2637.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:46 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:45 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) --- Bastien Nocera Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides gently compressed by a Thigh Master. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 13:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D87186F0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC9183B0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58F1608B; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 16328-10; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3616087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribi=F3: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >=20 > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple = to do=20 > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directo= ry=20 > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts her= e. > >=20 > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) >=20 > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) Done, please, just test it. Cheers. P.S.: The old HEAD code has been branched as "before-gnome-2-0-merge" >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides > gently compressed by a Thigh Master.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ksRIEuPMamD5V9cRAnjVAJ4okHA4v5kyAbDypbM8m14pgmV5PwCfYAV0 2F4msBcLJf4iF7VRNanQ6P8= =AKD5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 22:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5763180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9F180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0980453A8DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4A3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:13 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3A8612B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 11:18:53 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 11:18:53 up 16:23, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.09, 0.06 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good morning all, I have a little story to tell. The other weekend, I went paintballing. This is an incredibly violent activity, in which two teams dress up in army green overalls, don scary helmets, and shoot water-based paint pellets at each other with semi-automatic gas-powered rifles. As I surveyed the battlefield, a thought struck me - as hard as those little welt-inducing pellets were hitting the other team - that all these crazy kids running around in green overalls and facemasks looked just like... DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP. http://art.gnome.org/images/icons/gnome-people/Dave.png So this week, YOU TOO can be just like DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP, by releasing your latest MINDNUMBINGLY COOL software for the first GNOME 2.5 series release. If you're not excited now, just wait until we send Dave around to convince you that RELEASES ARE COOL. He sharpens his teeth, by the way. THE NEW MODULES BIT: If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and will be following the 2.5 series releases. If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by Wednesday or Thursday this week. Thanks, - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Whoever wrote [the Twisted documentation] uses a vivid and interesting style of prose which triggers pleasure." - Francois Pinard _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 05:15:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4788181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D14181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A574153B622; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A493BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:26 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBE5812B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Xan Lopez Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 17:08:34 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 17:08:34 up 22:13, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.12 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > Good morning all, > (snip) > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > phases of the release process. > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. Thanks Xan, - Jeff [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:45:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F154188CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0B018104; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE94815231F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:15:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling against 2.2 will be fine? > > Thanks Xan, > > - Jeff > > [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from > procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB5188A1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from zugzwang.rosevear.com (CPE00045ae4cc2c-CM014410117597.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.114.92.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529FF18104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zugzwang.rosevear.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9K6ia1F010768 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:37 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: JP Rosevear To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> References: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian, Inc. Message-Id: <1066632275.10661.13.camel@zugzwang.rosevear.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:35 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 14:55, Nat Friedman wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November > 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial > information about the summit is available on the internet: Maybe this was covered while I was a way, but the registration form is pretty much US-centric if that makes a difference. -JP -- JP Rosevear Ximian, Inc. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 07:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA70181C5; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB751839F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9KBYf929515; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:34:42 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers , "gnome-i18n@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <1066649622.699.37.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:33:42 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 18:05, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribió: > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > > > > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) > > > > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) > > Done, please, just test it. GNOME 2.4 version is in the gnome-2-4 branch. I'm starting to clean up HEAD. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Even in his last years, Granddad had a mind like a steel trap, only one that had been left out so long it had rusted shut. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64801836C; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB67181E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C875539FF2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:05:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2073BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C49212B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 21:06:15 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:06:15 up 1 day, 2:11, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.02 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > against 2.2 will be fine? If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you won't be able to build half of the existing modules). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of "meme". _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650E188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD1188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEM31687; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEr20603; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.38]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMDt24974; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:13 -0400 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Owen Taylor To: Jeff Waugh Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:06 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 03:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CC2188E3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8E18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B991152374; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 (CEST) To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020120806.GA4658@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:06:52PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > > against 2.2 will be fine? > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). I guess it was an stupid question :-P... ok, then I'll have to check as soon as possible that everything works in the gnome system tools with gtk HEAD thanks > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of > "meme". > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9F18911; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14FB18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A3538FCF; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:21:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214CC3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D5F12B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Owen Taylor Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020122322.GI9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Owen Taylor , Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 22:23:07 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 22:23:07 up 1 day, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:22 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some > form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Awesome, thanks very much Owen! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and righteously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism." - Darwinian System Administration _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 15:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9KJgU720818; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: Mark Finlay Cc: Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford In-Reply-To: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mark Finlay writes: > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). > > There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on > HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems from GTK+ as we can. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178EA183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from helliconia (unknown [213.37.158.37]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17918145; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (helliconia [127.0.0.1]) by helliconia (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD79B807E; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Xan Lopez To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribió: > Good morning all, (snip) > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several phases of the release process. We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by > Wednesday or Thursday this week. > > Thanks, > > - Jeff -- "The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages -- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already" [Edward Abbey] xan, xan@masilla.org _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA91C183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c106-105.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.106.105]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC2180E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9KKAYKx004129; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Received: (from sisob@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9KKAYH2004127; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: sisob set sender to sisob@tuxfamily.org using -f Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Mark Finlay To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. -- Mark Finlay Computer Science Student E-Mail: sisob_AT_tuxfamily_DOT_org Jabber: sisob_AT_jabber_DOT_org Blog: http://sisob.tuxfamily.org http://advogato.org/person/sisob _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9954C180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-10.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.42]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4EB51821E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11244 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.henstridge.invalid) (203.59.242.135) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from daa.com.au (dhcp-236.henstridge.invalid [10.0.42.236]) by home.henstridge.invalid (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102A43CA; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:28 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> From: James Henstridge User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-AU; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030927 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Blandford Cc: Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0800 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 21/10/03 03:42, Jonathan Blandford wrote: >Mark Finlay writes: > > > >>>If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you >>>won't be able to build half of the existing modules). >>> >>> >>There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on >>HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. >> >> > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems >from GTK+ as we can. > > This does bring up the question of whether it is right to have these flags turned on by default in tarball builds at all though. Do we want released tarballs to stop building in the future because some library they use deprecated a symbol in a future version? It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code designed to provide this compatibility. I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind of like -Werror ...). James. -- Email: james@daa.com.au WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12679183DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD6180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90470538539; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65E3BE3; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5230D12B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021021723.GP9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: James Henstridge , Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 12:16:06 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 12:16:06 up 1 day, 17:21, 4 users, load average: 0.46, 0.20, 0.10 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform > if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code > designed to provide this compatibility. > > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; > just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind > of like -Werror ...). I was thinking about this last night too, but when it comes to stuff in the Desktop and Developer Platform releases, it probably makes sense to keep them in there (at least for the time being). Certainly other modules should remove them, unless there's a good reason not to. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "There are men with an appetite for fight and a sense of occasion, and then there is Waugh." - SMH, about Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 07:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1618938; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB831816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LBTWSF009353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:29:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:24 +0200 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: veillard@redhat.com, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: RE: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:12 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > getting approval or no dissent from them. Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 08:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2618963; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2C1896C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3063E5385B1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:43:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E37D3BE3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F135812B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-games 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031021124537.GX9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 22:41:12 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 22:41:12 up 2 days, 3:46, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > So here it is, the first release of the new unstable series of gnome-games > and quite frankly I think I've done an excellent job of trying to make it > unstable. Ha ha ha. :-) THAT'S THE SPIRIT! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ W.O.R.K: Weekend Over, Resume the Killings. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 22 05:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1845180DA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41930180DA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9M9ETW10361; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:29 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Qalculate! 0.3 From: Alexander Larsson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: Niklas Knutsson In-Reply-To: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066814068.15104.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 22 Oct 2003 11:14:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:22, Niklas Knutsson wrote: > Application > =========== > > Qalculate! 0.3 > > Description > =========== > > Qalculate! is a modern multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux. It > is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility underneath. > Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary precision, > plotting, and a graphical interface (GTK+) that uses an one-line > fault-tolerant expression entry (although it supports optional traditional > buttons). > > Enhancements > ============ > > This release adds arbitrary precision, fractions, matrices, RPN, function > and data plotting, boolean operations, exact mode, exchange rates, a new > math display widget, increased function flexibility, new functions, XML > data files... ... and bug fixes. Man, this app rules! Its everything a computer based desktop calculator should be, and more. I can finally stop using python to do simple calculations. Thank you, thank you, thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl@redhat.com alla@lysator.liu.se He's an otherworldly Republican sorceror for the 21st century. She's a psychotic antique-collecting lawyer living on borrowed time. They fight crime! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB2185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from akasha.mundoregio.com (unknown [66.6.75.106]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E718404; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amy.the-vox.com (dsl-200-67-6-15.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.6.15]) by akasha.mundoregio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD828000B; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Juan Pablo Mendoza To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066704422.21343.6.camel@amy.the-vox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 21:00, James Henstridge wrote: > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). Maybe GTK+ guys can, in the next release, deprecate with DISABLE_GTK_2_6_DEPRECATED ? > James. -- Juan Pablo Mendoza Monterrey, Nuevo León. México. http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FA6185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from november.skynet.be (november.skynet.be [195.238.3.59]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4618110; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ana.onshuis (253.43-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.43.253]) by november.skynet.be (8.12.9/8.12.9/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h9L8FOxK031559; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066724123.2260.51.camel@ana.onshuis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (november.skynet.be) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally > >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get > >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems > >from GTK+ as we can. > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). I agree. With GStreamer, we usually have Werror on for CVS and off for releases, and I was planning to add other stuff as well, like deprecation. I think it would make sense to do this for GNOME as well; hammer out as many bugs as possible from CVS, but make the releases as buildable as possible. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> I feel like I'm at something you always say you need more time Well I'll stay right here and I'll wait for good until I find a love worth mine <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E8185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE81182C4; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LB3d831353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021070339.B16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus>; from jdub@perkypants.org on Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a > release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and > release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and > will be following the 2.5 series releases. libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and getting approval or no dissent from them. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB50185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8584218825; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031021214222.JUIX5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:42:22 +0200 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GStreamer delivered From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers , gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066772562.1187.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 21 Oct 2003 23:42:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, We just released GStreamer 0.7.1 today. It is meant as the unstable release series for GNOME 2.5 leading up to shipping 0.8.0 with GNOME 2.6. As you all know we have been doing a stable GStreamer 0.6.x series now for the GNOME 2.2 and GNOME 2.4, but since the 0.6.x branch has reached its peaked we felt it was time to move forward with a new stable series based of CVS head. While this do constitute a breakage of ABI we will work together with Ted to make sure gnome-media is working well with the new branch. (I think sound-recorder also works with 0.7?) The new release will be mostly source compatible actually, which is why you can use current Rhythmbox with both the 0.6.x branch and this new 0.7.x branch. We will also migrate the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer with this release. Code for this is in GStreamer 0.7.1 and we have a new GNOME mixer in the gst-sandbox CVS module on gst.net. This we will try and get moved into gnome-multimedia as soon as possible to replace the current mixer. The advantage of this is that we can compile the gnome-mixer once and it will work with both ALSA and OSS under Linux or OSS or Solaris Audio on Solaris (1). The new 0.7.x branch has a lot of improvements compared to the 0.6 branch, especially for video applications as it supports more formats both for decoding/demuxing and for muxing/encoding. It also features good error handling, better typefinding and soon a new metadata system. There is probably also a tonn of other stuff in here I don't even remember now. Many people have been hacking on this for quite some while now in CVS :) Another feature of 0.7.x is that Thomas will soon be working fulltime on it :) I am working on a small technical summary of what we did at the GStreamer meeting in Barcelona last month and what we plan ahead. We will also be making a normal release announcement for GStreamer 0.7.1 with more details, but my planned effort on that today was derailed as I was commandeered elsewhere as part of my service to Larry :) (1) Solaris Audio and Alsa implementations missing atm, but we hope to solve that soonish :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB65185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00141816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LBlG816231; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021074716.C16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com>; from Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > > getting approval or no dissent from them. > > Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? I run GNOME 2.4 on libxml2 2.6.0 without troubles so far, yes. The couple of compatibility bugs which have been found in the 1.5 month it took to build 2.6.0 have been fixed immediately, In practice it should work, maybe with the exception of handling DocBook SGML docs, which I think should have been fixed by GNOME 2.4 anyway. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90019185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC28B181AA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ACqQA-00031C-Oz for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome.org #2666] new module and cvs account References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:45 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account information. Thanks for considering the project! Todd Christian Rose via RT wrote: > > [todd@dropline.net - Thu Oct 23 19:45:15 2003]: > >>I've been working on a CD burner using the GNOME 2.4 libraries, and >>was wondering if there was interest in putting the code into GNOME's >>CVS. I have a simple webpage setup with project details and >>screenshots at http://www.dropline.net/optimystic. There are also >>instructions for downloading the current code, but as it's hosted off >>of a cable modem, it is not a permanant solution. Does this look >>appropriate for GNOME CVS? > > > In my opinion yes, but please also suggest this on the > gnome-hackers@gnome.org mailing list -- that way more people will know > about the request and can state their opinions, and we can use the > general opinion on that list as a reference on whether we can import > this to GNOME CVS. > > Also, should people on gnome-hackers@gnome.org be positive about this, > we need more details from you in order to be able to create an account. > The list of details we need is at > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/policies/accounts/ . > > > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 07:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1118625; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAE318625 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9OBG1Y07211; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:16:01 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Rose To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 13:16:02 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > information. Thanks for considering the project! I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to GNOME CVS myself. Any opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A701879B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2F1849C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031024172806.XECR5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:28:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 19:28:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Todd, Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) Christian On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 13:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > > information. Thanks for considering the project! > > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. > > Any opinions? > > > Christian > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E518616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from as583.emma.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.248.82]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AD0x9-0004Nq-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Andrew Sobala To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN" Message-Id: <1066998148.4651.0.camel@gondor.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:28 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that=20 > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account=20 > > information. Thanks for considering the project! >=20 > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Yes, it looks nice and it would be great to have it in GNOME CVS. --=20 Andrew Sobala Given by our hand in the meadow that is called Runnymede, between Windsor and Staines, on the fifteenth day of June in the seventeenth year of our reign. --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mRmEBv9K3NCDvFYRAns3AJ4t4vx1RZzD/HTqKvBdofDCOldJSACfe8yR G9iFT1Sjd5e2KxN3c3+V9ys= =AdAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282618186 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [68.72.228.34] (helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.24) id 1AD2Kb-0004RY-4n; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xavier Bestel Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> In-Reply-To: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:19 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xavier Bestel wrote: > Does it use cdrecord ? > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems, porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079718154 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD1jP-0004HK-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 13:16, Christian Rose a =E9crit : > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Does it use cdrecord ? Xav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F9418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1EC18376 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD2j5-0004QX-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067004937.9771.3.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:38 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 15:50, Todd Kulesza a =E9crit : > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > Does it use cdrecord ? > >=20 >=20 > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the=20 > maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems,=20 > porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Oh sorry, I overlooked that on the web site. IMHO you should put it in the "features" section :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 18:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD18DCC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73018D97; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031024222520.PZDG12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Bastien Nocera To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067034319.5515.8.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:19 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) We already have a CD and DVD burner that works on more than just Linux... And if RB makes it, we can probably work towards having audio burning in there as well. --- Bastien Nocera Never do today that which will become someone elses responsibility tomorrow. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 19:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17E418DAE; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4818818; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:36:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Will LaShell To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Todd Kulesza , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:35:59 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. Will --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mbdfZr3R5kgOZd0RAlpQAKCQOJ4aqCrvHEOdXIFf5zqJuXY1PgCgnrsu DBxiRatmv0wVZV/BT4vCVow= =5vG9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52461818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E311810C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADG5L-0002mr-44; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99FCC0.50002@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will LaShell Cc: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller , Gnome Hackers Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> In-Reply-To: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:32:00 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Will LaShell wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > >>Hi Todd, >>Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it >>belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) > > > s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) > > But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. > Will > > Yeah, I wasn't planning on proposing Optimystic as the official GNOME CD burner; I just want a CVS home for it :) Fifth Toe, on the other hand, sounds perfectly appropriate once Optimystic's code has solidified. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA51818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB31182EB for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QFqCPh029545 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CHBG2Y6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CHCG2Z6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tO7FuKxFCiQjB1K07YWTpg== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Christian, > We are doing a push to create a large collection of flags available > in SVG format. To accomplish this we need as many people as possible to > get involved and send us a SVG version of their local flags. > > Please check out our article on gnomedesktop.org > http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1421&mode=&order=0&thold=1 Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. For more on the faces project see: http://faces.sourceforge.net http://www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30E41818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48618844 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QGtYxA018656 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CMIJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: C7J1hxLj38WJRXW/zy9hVw== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > ... > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a vector format. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 16:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F112187C9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:53:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB615187C9 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hhlinux.no.oracle.com ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031026213452.WDGG13165.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@hhlinux.no.oracle.com>; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:34:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Christian Schaller To: Rich Burridge Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:39:55 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of submissions :) Christian On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > ... > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > vector format. > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 17:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC851819E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:43:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB8B184B1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (xkahn@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Benjamin Kahn To: Christian Schaller Cc: Rich Burridge , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067208132.11391.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:12 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, The application you're looking for is called autotrace. The frontend is called frontline. You can find them here: http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/ http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/frontline It works okay, although it's a fairly manual process. (Actually, it might get more automatic if you have a bunch of similar images.) My experience shows that it's good for starting the sketch, but works best if you're prepared to clean the image up afterward. On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 16:39, Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi Rich, > I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of > the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of > submissions :) > > Christian > > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > > ... > > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > > vector format. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers -- Benjamin Kahn Special Projects W: 617 / 375 - 3811 Support Manager F: 401 / 712 - 8649 Security Team _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 23:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB6182B9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:12:49 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from esco.mine.nu (c-67-167-205-161.client.comcast.net [67.167.205.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B59181B4; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jcape by esco.mine.nu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ADyjy-00007B-Fr; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Subject: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: "James M. Cape" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB" Organization: Project Mayhem Message-Id: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the GTcpSocket library, and is available at: http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. It's currently broken due to the massive API/code organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does build, and will definately be stable (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread issues re: closing sockets). The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: GNet: + Uses GObject. + Multi-threaded. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + Easily extensible. + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Link: + Not private to ORBit :-). + More detailed signals and error reporting. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). GTcpSocket: + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). GnomeVFS: + GObject. + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate verification, for example). + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). And most importantly, it'll be used by gnome-network :-). To get an idea of how it's used: void sent_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void recv_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void error_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, GError * error, gpointer user_data); void cxn_starter (gpointer data) { GObject *cxn; cxn =3D gnetwork_tcp_connection_new (GNETWORK_TCP_PROXY_HTTP, "127.0.0.1", 80); g_signal_connect (cxn, "notify::tcp-status", notify_tcp_status_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "sent", sent_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "received", recv_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "error", error_cb, NULL); gnetwork_connection_open (GNETWORK_CONNECTION (cxn)); } There's also a server object :-). --=20 Peace, Jim Cape http://ignore-your.tv "It is literally true that, like Christianity, Socialism has conquered the world by defeating itself." -- Alexander Berkman, ABC of Anarchism --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nJspCSU9pcw97v0RAhmcAKCzuQPdp7uSVz+ATEXB40QCZAAecQCg1jON ttcwA+sOzlgAPCZdCKAWEXQ= =xggU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 02:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54F189D7; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:13:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2E189D0; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-132.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.132]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305D538054; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:09:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4F3BE3; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B8212BA10; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031027071202.GY9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: "James M. Cape" , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Reply-By: Thu Oct 30 18:10:45 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 18:10:45 up 7 days, 22:15, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. (It's not too late as a general 2.6 proposed module, or for 2.5.0 - looks like we're going to have all kinds of *_DEPRECATED problems, so 2.5.0 is virtually on hold at the moment. Hoping to resolve that this week. You should probably send this email to desktop-devel-list too. Thanks!) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2E18A34; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:40:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from soumis.mandrakesoft.com (ezoffice.mandrakesoft.com [212.11.15.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CBA18A06; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinidad.mandrakesoft.com (trinidad.mandrakesoft.com [192.168.100.216]) by soumis.mandrakesoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D367; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:39:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Frederic Crozat To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Organization: Mandrakesoft Message-Id: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:33 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lun 27/10/2003 à 05:12, James M. Cape a écrit : > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Link: I think you mean linc > + Not private to ORBit :-). This is no longer the case.. With ORBit 2.8.x, linc was merged back into ORBit2 as linc2 > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the future.. -- Frederic Crozat Mandrakesoft _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13EA18A47; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725DE189EE; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95216022; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08475-05; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598051608D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Frederic Crozat Cc: "James M. Cape" , GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067251955.31096.77.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:35 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:37, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will > no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. > evolution 2.0 will still be using soup. > Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in > one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will > probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the > future.. > that was my main goal when talking with Jim about merging libgtcpsocket into libgnetwork. I think libgnetwork now provides a good base, and we just need to adapt the code in other libraries to it. One of the most interesting things might be to add libsoup's HTTP/HTTPS implementation, which is working pretty well now for evo 2.0 thanks to Dan Winship. Also, gmdns will be integrated very soon. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 18:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5C18B4D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:48:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (wintermute.sr.unh.edu [132.177.241.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AD181A5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RDaVPW010578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Received: (from tjb@localhost) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h9RDaVkc010576 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: wintermute.sr.unh.edu: tjb set sender to tjb@unh.edu using -f Subject: Re: New Wallpaper Properties Dialog From: "Thomas J. Baker" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> References: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO" Organization: University of New Hampshire's Research Computing Center Message-Id: <1067261791.10205.1.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-5) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 19:18, Rodney Dawes wrote: > I have just released the initial revision of the new wallpaper capplet > that I have been working on in my spare time, and has been under > discussion on gnome-themes-list. This initial release is quite > featureful, yet it is still missing the "random" feature that was in > my mock up, as well as some other features and functionality that are > outlined in the TODO file that is included in the tarball. >=20 > The main feature is the storage of meta-data and the list of available > wallpapers, in an XML file in ~/.gnome2/. For each individual image, the > filename, a descriptive name, image scaling type, background color type, > and background colors are all stored. There is no DTD yet, but one will > be written for the next release. >=20 > Also left to do, is to write the logic for detecting if the image is a > tile or should be scaled or what. It currently detects most tiled images > already though, on the basis of height vs. width. If they are the same, > Tiled is automatically selected. >=20 > I'm also proposing that we replace the current capplet(s) with this one > for GNOME 2.6. >=20 > Here are the relevant URLs: >=20 > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-real.png > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-0.2.0.tar.gz >=20 > -- dobey I don't know if it's possible or not but is there any hope of getting multimonitor support for wallpapers. It would be nice if it could detect multiple monitors and allow for different images on each. Thanks, tjb --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Thomas Baker email: tjb@unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nR9foCtjjhzuY8QRAiyZAKCD4IF1BwCw8wOt4c503Zd5XCn+cwCggDBg d5mHc+mU9zYB85R8sK+YgO4= =ZjQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 03:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0021815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:13:04 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F21815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9S8AQoB002128; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:09 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'm trying to get > libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the > GTcpSocket library, and is available > at: > > http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz > > and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. You need to update the README for the new project name, and you should add a MAINTAINERS file. Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful than the other networky APIs? For instance, it looks like it would be useful for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. Compared to libgnetwork, I guess that interprocess communication would be better done with dbus or CORBA, and reading/writing of file-based information would be better done with gnome-vfs. Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > build, and will definately be stable > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > issues re: closing sockets). > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: GNet == libgnetwork, right? > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on December 8th, by the way: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > Link: > + Not private to ORBit :-). > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Linc has been removed from the public API of the Development Platform, so it's no longer really relevant. > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). Non-HTTP: HTTP? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 04:22:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4391813F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BF1813F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-eris-2 ([129.156.85.26]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9M3UP028409 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slipstream (vpn-129-150-153-4.Aus.Sun.COM [129.150.153.4]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG001K9NCNM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:22:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Glynn Foster Subject: [Fwd: Call for Submissions: Tutorials] To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1067422727.2276.27.camel@slipstream> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR" X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:18:47 -1200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Just in case anyone feels like earning a bit of money ;) Glynn --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Call for Submissions: Tutorials Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-path: Received: from eris-mail1.uk.sun.com [129.156.85.66] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.13) for gman@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:14:16 -1200 (GMT+12) Received: from sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.220.30]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG00105MZHM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for Glynn.Foster@Sun.COM; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.246.180]) by sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E3ih000835 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.42.13]) by sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E2C08415 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay21.sun.com (relay21.sun.com [192.12.251.14] (may be forged)) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9E2UP025089 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.30] [150.143.232.30]) by relay21i.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:02 +0000 (Z) Received: from mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com (mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com [192.12.251.50]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from mail.ltt.de ([62.159.60.178] [62.159.60.178]) by relay23.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from ltt.de ([192.168.50.101]) by mail.ltt.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13796; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:18:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:10:45 +0100 From: Roberto Zicari Subject: Call for Submissions: Tutorials To: proctors , Glynn Foster Message-id: <3F9E3296.BA0C734E@ltt.de> Organization: LogOn Technology Transfer GmbH MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE Original-recipient: rfc822;glynn.foster@sun.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI-- Regards Roberto Zicari ---------------------------------------------------------------- LogOn Technology Transfer is looking for tutorial submissions for its new series of LogOn Briefings. The following three series of Briefings are taking place in co-location in January 2004: LogOn Briefing: OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Open Source & Linux@work Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Security (Protect your Business) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 The LogOn Briefings are building upon the established series of OMG Information Days and Linux@work. Each LogOn Briefing will offer a broad technical tutorial program in the morning. The afternoons are dedicated to corporate lectures, vendor neutral case studies, keynotes, and an exhibition. ** This call is for tutorial submissions. ** ############################################# Call for tutorial submissions -- Instructions: Submissions for the morning tutorial program should cover a **technical** subject, related to one of the three topics of the briefings: - OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) - Open Source & Linux@work - Security (Protect your Business) A detailed list of event topics can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/call-for-submissions.shtml The tutorials are addressed to a technical audience that is looking for in depth education on specific topics. Tutorial sessions will be 3 hrs long. Speaker Compensation: EUR 400 flat plus 1 night hotel Interested individuals or organisations are invited to submit +++ not later than October 31, 2003 +++ a brief abstract of the presentation, including a short biography of the presenter. Abstract length should be no longer than 1 page or 150 words. Submissions should be sent using the form at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/submissions-form.shtml Any questions can be addressed to: Mr. Matthias Neumann Conference Management LogOn Technology Transfer e-mail: neumann@ltt.de Background Information: For a look at past OMG Information Days and Linux@work events including final reports and photos, please visit http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/final-report.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/final-report.shtml Attendee profile and events evaluation can be found at http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/evaluation.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/evaluation.shtml A sample of past tutorials can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/tutorial-sample.shtml ## --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 07:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF7185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C85185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0116097; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 29136-08; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC48160DA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067344232.19535.63.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:32 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:13, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful > than the other networky APIs? > the idea is that there are a lot of network APIs out there, but none is standardized enough to be in the GNOME platform. When we re-started gnome-network, we wanted to fix that, by providing a rule-them-all library (thanks fcrozat for the term :-) to be included in the GNOME platform. We tried to contact gnet's maintainer, but didn't get any answer, so then we found libgtcpsocket, and asked James about renaming it to libgnetwork and push it for inclusion in GNOME 2.6. We chose libgtcpsocket because it is the best networking API I've found myself. It's GObject-based (as opposed to gnet, which isn't) and provides a very good base for building more high-level networking services. > For instance, it looks like it would be useful > for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and > maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. > yes, but not only for servers, but also for clients. One of the examples of this is libgircclient, in CVS also, which uses libgtcpsocket (still) for implementing an IRC client. This libgircclient might be added also to libgnetwork. > Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the > GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? > I'd vote for the platform, if possible. If not, just to the desktop so that gnome-network can use it. But I think it would be a good idea to provide a standard networking API in the GNOME platform, as many other OSes/environments provide. > I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies > that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure > personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > > build, and will definately be stable > > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > > issues re: closing sockets). > > > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > > > GNet: > > GNet == libgnetwork, right? > no, gnet -> http://www.gnetlibrary.org/ > > + Uses GObject. > > + Multi-threaded. > > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > > + Easily extensible. > > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on > December 8th, by the way: > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > I intend to integrate, if time permits, gmdns into this library, which uses, AFAIK, UDP, so we might probably have a UDP implementation by then. About UNIX sockets, I don't know what James is planning, but it might be a very good idea to add it. > > > GTcpSocket: > > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > it's been renamed, and it is being changed to not only allow TCP, but any sort of network connection. That's what the 'Much cleaner object hierarchy' talks about. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 08:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8818AFE; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:27:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4DE18ACC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SDMdoB024779; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:40 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: rodrigo@gnome-db.org Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to > having all GNOME applications using this for their networking > access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which > would be a good move. Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use it. Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 09:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF04F18B5E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:42:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAFE18B2C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C63E53840A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:38:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278E93BE3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:38 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD30E12BA10; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031028144037.GZ9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com, rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Reply-By: Sat Nov 1 01:33:14 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:33:14 up 9 days, 5:38, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] well, if we push it > > right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications > > using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, > > etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before > being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the > Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed > by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the > meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use > it. Agree. I would *very strongly* recommend that we *always* shift new libraries into the Desktop (or another appropriate release set or transition module, such as Office and libegg) before attempting to get them into the platform. We've made mistakes like this in the past, and we ought to have learned from them. Linus gets this right - stuff goes in when it's proven and in use. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "NASCAR is not race per se. It's just a contest about who can turn left the best." - Unknown _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EC1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35FE1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90625380A6; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263843BE3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:09 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE0CC12BA10; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Subject: Announcing GNOME.conf.au 2004 Message-ID: <20031030010508.GJ7082@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Sun Nov 2 12:03:25 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 12:03:25 up 10 days, 16:08, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gooooooood morning everybody! Announcing the first Australian GNOME.conf.au 2004 hacker's conference! Who'll be coming? ----------------- Havoc Pennington! James Henstridge! Plus lots of other people who haven't told me they're coming yet! Stay tuned for more info. When? Where? ------------ 12th-13th January, 2004, in the great city of Adelaide, in co-operation with Australia's premier Free Software and Open Source developer's conference, linux.conf.au! Check out their site (http://lca2004.linux.org.au/) for all the details on the main conference and for conference registration. It's going to kick serious arse again! Note that you must be attending the full conference to join in with the GNOME.conf.au fun, not that you'd seriously consider missing the main event! What? Why? ---------- On Monday, a selection of casual presentations, mini-tutorials and technical demos. On Tuesday, a hackfest! We'll have a list of things soon, but not a proper schedule. That would restrict our creativity (read: potential laziness, beer intake and hacking time). Further news will appear on the GNOME.conf.au webite: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ "IBM is the proud Penguin Sponsor of Linux.Conf.Au 2004" Thanks, - Jeff -- Come to gnome.conf.au 2004! http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ Wake up and smell the penguin. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:11:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195D187B6; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:11:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from 3rivieres.vuntz.net (3rivieres.vuntz.net [80.65.224.121]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD836187B5; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id B63083D16; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from brindas (brindas.vuntz.net [10.0.0.4]) by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC23D05; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from vuntz by brindas with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AF1Ks-0000Lp-00; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: foundation-announce@gnome.org, foundation-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Reminder - GNOME Foundation elections Message-ID: <20031030011050.GB638@vuntz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, This is a reminder for the elections for the GNOME Foundation. If you want to be able to vote or to be a candidate for the elections, please apply for membership before October 31st, 23:59 UTC. There's only 2 days left to apply before the membership committee closes the applications for the elections. You can apply using the form at: http://foundation.gnome.org/membership-form.php You can look at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/voters.html to see people who will be able to vote as of October 30th. Please look at this list before applying for membership or renewing your membership: you don't need to apply if you're in the list. If you want to be a candidate, please announce your candidacy before November 7th, 23:59 UTC. You may nominate yourself to run for election by sending an e-mail to foundation-announce@gnome.org with your name, e-mail address, corporate affiliation (if any), and a description of why you'd like to serve. You should also send a summary of your candidacy announcement (75 words or less) to elections@gnome.org. Timeline -------- (all deadlines are 23:59 UTC/18:59 EST) October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23(24)25 list of candidates opened (24th) -26-27-28-29-30(31)-- WE ARE HERE applications/renewals closed for elections (31st) November 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 (7) 8 start collecting questions for the candidates (3rd) all candidates must be announced (7th), questions to be sent to the candidates are choosed (7th) 9(10)11 12 13 14 15 announce list of candidates running for election, questions emailed to all candidates (10th) 16 17 18 19 20(21)22 ballots go out (21st) 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 December 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 all ballots must be returned (5th) 7 (8) 9 10 11 12 13 preliminary election result announced (8th) 14 15 16 17 18(19)20 challenges to election results close (19th) 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 In the case of a tie, there's another round of votes starting December 8th and ending December 15th. Questions --------- For the complete announcement of the elections, please see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2003-October/msg00001.html For more information, please look at the elections procedures at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/rules.html. If you have any questions, feel free to send them to elections@gnome.org or to foundation-list@gnome.org. The GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Eric Baudais Andy Tai Ghee Teo Vincent Untz -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas presses. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460E518519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.capital.lv (ns.luxcontrol.lv [195.13.243.130]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025B418832 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dinozaurs ([192.168.200.60]) by mail.capital.lv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:04:33 +0300 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Pavels Nikolajevs Reply-To: pavels@capital.lv To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI" Organization: Capital Message-Id: <1065186427.12574.2.camel@dinozaurs> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2003 13:04:33.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3C996A0:01C389AE] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:07:07 +0300 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list --=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [root@dinozaurs soft]# rpm -U multires-0.4-1.i586.rpm
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: user chrisp does not exist - using root
warning: group chrisp does not exist - using root
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:59, Chris wrote: 
Application
===========

Gnome Multires 0.4

Description
===========

Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of
desktop resolution and refresh rate.

Enhancements
============
Add Xrandr support

Download
========

http://multires.sourceforge.net

GNOME Software Map entry
========================

http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires

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gnome-announce-list mailing list
gnome-announce-list@gnome.org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list
--=-/dLNSgdupeZUjqtxcAEI-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 4 06:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8418519; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 06:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EFF186F0 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 417); 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 13:22:25 -0000 Received: from dbraylaptop.health-first.org ([208.143.232.66]) (AUTH: LOGIN thelupine@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Gnome Multires 0.4 From: Lupine Reply-To: thelupine@evilfucker.com To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031003105944.914CA40454@widget.gnome.org> Message-Id: <1065187288.858.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:21:28 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:59, Chris wrote: > Application > =========== > > Gnome Multires 0.4 > > Description > =========== > > Gnome Multires is an applet for the Gnome 2 panel which allows changing of > desktop resolution and refresh rate. > > Enhancements > ============ > Add Xrandr support > > Download > ======== > > http://multires.sourceforge.net > > GNOME Software Map entry > ======================== > > http://www.gnome.org/softwaremap/projects/multires > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-announce-list mailing list > gnome-announce-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list > Very nice applet!!!! Thanks!!!! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Thu Oct 9 07:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7918892; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-12.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.44]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 496ED18877 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8459 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 11:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.perkypants.org) (203.217.23.133) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 11:24:53 -0000 Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89E3C89; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:24:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02E6112B6F5; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 Message-ID: <20031009112509.GK21801@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6 i686 Reply-By: Sun Oct 12 21:17:40 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:17:40 up 7 days, 1:59, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:25:09 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey hey crazy kids! IT'S RELEASE TIME AGAIN! In the Great and Wise words of Wayne and Garth... "A Schedule Says 'What'?" ... This time around, a schedule says that GNOME D&DP 2.4.1 tarballs are due on Monday, October 13th! That's next week! Schedule: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ Calendar with today and October 13th highlighted: October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9)10 11 <- TODAY! 12(13)14 15 16 17 18 <- TARBALLS DUE! 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Thanks! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary." - mpt _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1018837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (yonge.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.1.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEADD18364 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jane.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.31]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <199803-19411>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:48 -0400 Received: from qew.cs.toronto.edu by jane.cs.toronto.edu id <453283-20154>; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:39 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod X-X-Sender: behdad@qew.cs To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 In-Reply-To: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Message-ID: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:58:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Michael Meeks wrote: > OpenOffice.org build: > > This package contains the Gnome integration work for > OpenOffice.org, and a much simplified build wrapper, making an OO.o > build / install possible for the common man.[1] It is a staging ground > for up-streaming patches to OO.o. Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same thing that is going to be in Fedora? My main question follows. > Changes in this release: > + features > + new, sized, alpha fixed icons (Tigert, Jimmac) > + scroll-wheel quickhelp less annoying (Michael) > + system-zlib, system-getopt (from Mdk, Rene) > + nice bonobo component (Martin Kretzchmar) > + configure with --enable-bonobo > + bug fixes > + relocate now prunes stale .dpcc files (Michael) > + problems in toolbox customize (Michael) > + --with-system-gcc fix (Michael, Robin Cook) > + print-scale fix (Dan Williams, Michael) > + File->New i18n fix (Michael) > > This is mainly a quick release before Josh's nice de-java-ised build > patch-set lands, expect that next release. > > Package available from: > > http://ooo.ximian.com/packages/OOO_1_1_0/ooo-build-1.1.44.tar.gz > > To find out more see http://ooo.ximian.com/ and/or subscribe to our > Gnome / OO.o development mailing list at: > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/openoffice. > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > idle CPU time. Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws some characters that should be removed before drawing (like U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that if that's the case. Thanks behdad, who is going to study after finishing this mail. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 17:34:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124B18837; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA181C2F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26032 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gargantuan.boston.ximian.com) (nat@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 18:59:25 -0000 Subject: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: Nat Friedman To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065725736.8051.36.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:58:50 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everyone, We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial information about the summit is available on the internet: http://www.nylxs.com/events/gnome Similar in spirit to the 2002 Summit in sunny Boston, the objective of this event is to get the GNOME hackers together in the same place to facilitate coordination, planning, and a general sense of love and spiritual well-being. For those of you who attended the summit in 2002, we have learned from your feedback and therefore this event will be even less formal and more free-form than the previous year's. There will be few to no scheduled sessions, and the emphasis will be on providing facilities and a common location for contributors to get together. For those of you who did not attend last year, we hope that you can make it in November. This year, we are not requiring that you be a GNOME Foundation member to attend. This summit is being organized by NYLXS, the New York GNU Linux Scene, who have been kind enough to organize all the facilities and accommodations for the event. As with last year, you are responsible for finding accommodations yourself. Very soon, some helpful information will appear on the summit web page with information about nearby hotels and other arrangements. Contact information for Lewis Travel, who can help you arrange your travel, is already available. We do ask that you register using the registration mechanism on the summit web page. Questions about the summit should be directed to Ruben Safir . Over and out, Nat _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6516A181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9418144 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw3vk002012 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:03 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sat Oct 11 23:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961E181B6; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from chabotc.xs4all.nl (chabotc.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.141]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9F18289 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf (gandalf.chabotc.com [192.168.0.2]) by chabotc.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9BLw4vk002021 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c39042$bf92b510$0200a8c0@gandalf> From: "Chris Chabot" To: References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:58:04 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Here's not the right place for this question: Is this the same > thing that is going to be in Fedora? The correct question to ask this would be on the fedora lists's, since they make the descision what to include. However looking @ fedora's / rawhide's packages, it seems they don't use ximian's build system or patch sets (though they might have adopted some) > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > idle CPU time. > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > if that's the case. It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 12:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F753180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB2180DE; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031012160741.RLIE2197.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:41 +0100 Subject: Re: totem 0.99.1 From: Bastien Nocera To: Mark McLoughlin Cc: Gnome Hackers , Gnome-i18n In-Reply-To: <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> References: <1056315067.5796.15.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1056374346.18838.13.camel@localhost> <1056375576.10530.31216.camel@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com> <1056376735.3522.25.camel@cdemaster-6.Ireland.Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065974860.5503.55.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:07:40 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:58, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:39, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:19, Vincent van Adrighem wrote: > > > > > Dutch (Vincent van Adrighem) > > > > > > It's very nice of you to put my name up here, but I didn't do the > > > translation here. I'm merely the one with CVS-access as you can see > > > here: > > > http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvslog.cgi?file=totem%2Fpo%2F/nl.po&rev=HEAD&root=/cvs/gnome > > > > > > My translators are getting grumpy because they don't get the credit for > > > their translations. And naturally I completely agree with them. :-) Your > > > module is not the only one where this mistake is being made, so nothing > > > directed at you in particular of course. But my translators would really > > > like to see their name in the credits. > > > > Mistake on my part, you'll see for example that the Bulgarian > > translation is rightly credited, although Yanko committed it. > > I've made the mistake quite a few time too, I'm sure. Its not intended > ... I don't think we'd bother doing translators lists if we didn't want > them to be credited correctly :-) > > I used to compile the list from the ChangeLog, and it would have been a > lot easier to not make these mistakes if the person committing put the > translator's name in the entry header rather than the committer. > > Kenneth suggested to me that we use "Last-Translator:" from the .po > file ... so I put a script in releng/single_module/tools/ which pulls > the list of translators since a given tag ... Well, either it's broken, or I'm doing something wrong. The awk-fu doesn't actually print anything out when I try it on Totem. So I added a Perl version that does pretty much the same thing but works for me :) --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 12 19:36:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2FA18330; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net [63.226.138.11]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 519DE18330 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62111 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lashell.net) (216.161.210.116) by mpls-relay-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Oct 2003 23:35:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> From: Will LaShell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gnome Hackers , gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Subject: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:37:09 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Welcome to Fifth Toe 2.4.0 The Fifth Toe release is a collection of cool, useful and fun GNOME applications. You can find a wide variety of applications in our latest release. The included applications range from Gnumeric an excellent spreadsheet application to gaim a well known instant messaging client. We would like to take the time now to thank everyone who has helped make the 2.3 beta series and this 2.4 release possible. We would especially like to thank the maintainers of the applications in the Fifth Toe release. Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. Abiword 2.0.0 - cross platform word processor balsa 2.0.15 - email client camorama 0.17 - web cam client with upload capabilities dia 0.91 - diagram application drivel 0.9.1 - a dropline web logging client gaim 0.70 - multi protocol instant messaging client galeon 1.3.9 - web browser gcompris 3.2 - children's educational games gDeskCal 0.54 - desktop calender application ghex 2.3 - hex editor glade 2.0.0 - GTK/GNOME gui designer gnomeicu 0.99 - icq client gnotime 2.1.7 - time tracker application gnumeric 1.2.0 - spreadsheet application gob2 2.0.6 - GObject builder library gpaint2 0.2.3 - simple graphics program gswitchit 2.3.3 - keyboard layout manager gtetrinet 0.7.5 - tetrinet client gthumb 2.1.6 - Thumbnailing application gurlchecker 0.6.0 - url checking application hardware monitor 0.7 - system monitoring applet heartbeat 0.2 - server monitoring system libgda / libgnomedb 1.0 - gnome database libraries meld 0.8.5 - visual diff and merge utility mergeant 0.12.1 - gui database tool monster masher 1.3 - multi level game mrproject 0.9.1 - project and resource management application pan 0.14.2 - usenet client regexxer 0.4 - regular expression build and test suite seahorse 0.7.3 - gnugpg client seti-applet 2.1.3 - seti client applet sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility streamtuner 0.10.0 - Internet music stream browser tsclient 0.120.0 - remote desktop client workrave 1.4.0 - Repetitive stress injury prevention utility xchat 2.0.5 - IRC client _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 05:11:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6259518334; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02CD18334 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Oct 2003 09:10:29 -0000 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:01:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 22:58, Chris Chabot wrote: > > > [1] - assuming the common man has 4Gb+ of spare space and lots of > > > idle CPU time. > > > > Really?? I need to fix a bug in OOo, that's it currently draws > > some characters that should be removed before drawing (like > > U+200C ZWNJ and U+200D ZWJ), but I cannot afford compiling that > > if that's the case. > > It seems highly unlikely that the specs mentioned on the website and in > these emails are randomly made up .. ;-) openoffice is a huge and very > complicated project, so the build resources are equally large. Quite; of course spare CPU time is not such a problem - most people are not belting their CPU overnight; it's really just a disk-space issue. Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Anyhow - this question really belongs on the mailing list that was linked in the announcement itself; where Dan lurks who can help you with Fedora OO.o questions too. HTH, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 13:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C75180DF; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from rover24.cmt (unknown [62.138.132.197]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC318788 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shawn (unknown [192.168.60.57]) by rover24.cmt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3CC7A20; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by shawn (Postfix, from userid 1050) id DB760A55; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Chris Halls To: Michael Meeks Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 Message-ID: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Meeks , Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:59:16 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; Uuuh.. $ deliver.pl -h deliver -- version: 1.50.8.1 deliver: ERROR: invalid option -h Usage: deliver [-force] [-minor] [-check] [-zip] [-delete] [destination-path] Options: -force copy even if not newer -minor deliver into minor -check just print what would happen, no actual copying of files -zip create additional zip files of delivered content -delete delete files, use with care -link hard link files into the solver to save disk space -deloutput remove the output tree The option -zip and a destination-path are mutually exclusive deliver -link will hardlink into the solver deliver -deloutput will delete the output directory too I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Chris _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 14:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138D1812C; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smithers.nildram.co.uk (smithers.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCEE1812C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burtonini.com (81-6-246-88.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.246.88]) by smithers.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5E24E86E; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A8xJl-40z-00; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:40:37 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > ... > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility Ooh, s-j made it! Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... Ross -- Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB781818A; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBDD181A6 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9DLn2c32386; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Deprecating widgets in libgnomeui X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 17:49:02 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Given that we're now compiling GNOME with GTK+-2.3, I've gone through libgnomeui and deprecated a number of widgets. GnomeColorPicker GnomeEntry GnomeFileEntry GnomeFontPicker GnomePixmapEntry GnomePopupMenu In addition, I deprecated gnome-window.h because it was pretty silly and didn't agree with the HIG at all. All of these widgets have an equivalents in GTK+. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 13 17:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7E184B7; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38F184B7 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:55:36 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Ross Burton Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 13 Oct 2003 14:55:34 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility >=20 > Ooh, s-j made it! >=20 > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on it. There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that weekend. At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. --Will >=20 > Ross > --=20 > Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com > jabber: ross@burtonini.com > www: http://www.burtonini.com./ > PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF >=20 > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ix9VZr3R5kgOZd0RApUJAKCc4fl7LFz/mtd03Yu+Tn1FkNbxUQCcCUba xxKzj0j1xkQHYDJvbjLKVcM= =FGf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UWyHugQJftH2WDHXNhax-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 14 05:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78918782; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B6018782 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO michael.home) (michael@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2003 09:54:25 -0000 Subject: Re: [Open Office] Re: ANNOUNCE: ooo-build-1.1.44 From: Michael Meeks To: Chris Halls Cc: Chris Chabot , Behdad Esfahbod , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, ximian-openoffice In-Reply-To: <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> References: <1065602297.10365.45.camel@michael.home> <001a01c39042$bf5e3790$0200a8c0@gandalf> <1066035681.32726.12.camel@michael.home> <20031013165915.GG31452@shawn.thehalls.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian. Message-Id: <1066124721.32481.14.camel@michael.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:45:22 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Chris, On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Chris Halls wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > Of course, if you only have ~2GB of spare space, you could help by > > re-hashing some of the 'deliver' scripts to use hard-linking instead of > > copying ;-) [ eg. ], which would be a help to others; > > Uuuh.. Oh ! :-) fascinating; how can we enable this by default in the build ? [ and/or is that a good idea ? ]. > I wrote those exactly for this purpose. At the time, we were trying to > build for powerpc on an aging machine with a very small disk. Sounds like my laptop ;-) Regards, Michael. -- michael@ximian.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 04:41:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F0C1823B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DC18488 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lionel.180sw.com ([82.44.126.41]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:40:40 +0100 Received: from burtonini.com (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by lionel.180sw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F37915AACD; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (ident=unknown) by burtonini.com with esmtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1A9XEr-0sT-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Ross Burton To: Will LaShell Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066082136.11406.6.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD" Message-Id: <1066168917.3023.14.camel@localhost.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2003 08:40:40.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[03A89370:01C392F8] X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:01:57 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will, > We received the addition request 2 weeks ago. I sent you an email saying > woot woot I love this thing you're in! LOL but I see you never received > it. It's been a bit hectic here and I missed following up with you on > it. Not a problem, with the amount of spam/viruses I've been getting recently I've been quite aggressive with the delete key on my inbox. :/ > There will be a calender posted up with the projected release times but > we'll be loading up a 2.4.1 release for the 24th most likely. It turned > out to be a good thing we didn't finalize the release until after I > returned from vacation as a whole bunch of apps made new tarballs that > weekend. I best try and fix the thread crasher! > At any rate congrats on sound juicer! It's really a cool thing. Thanks, glad you like it. Ross --=20 Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jHJVLQnkR9C0M98RAqIsAJwI/9Agz+zhSzimzgwOtF1ow29E8gCg4rme 8NSNhk5+1VUiLr0uzQ86PEY= =ptDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vV8z0RrYIZDyweFo8YpD-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 14:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C718153; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7311318742 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031015182827.EBXO12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:27 +0100 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Bastien Nocera To: Ross Burton Cc: Will LaShell , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:28:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > ... > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > > Ooh, s-j made it! > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) --- Bastien Nocera Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 15 15:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E921894B; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172D1894B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:13:12 -0500 Subject: Re: GNOME Fith Toe 2.4.0 released! From: Will LaShell To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <3F89E5A5.8010802@lashell.net> <1066030836.15098.1.camel@localhost.localnet> <1066242500.5347.10.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1066245192.16084.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 15 Oct 2003 12:13:11 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:28, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 08:40, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 00:37, Will LaShell wrote: > > > Without further ado, here is the cumulative list of packages in the=20 > > > 2.4.0 GNOME Fifth Toe release. > > > ... > > > sound juicer 0.5.3 - cd ripping utility > >=20 > > Ooh, s-j made it! > >=20 > > Being told previously would have been nice, but thanks for adding it. I > > best fix the nasty threading bugs I guess... >=20 > But totem didn't. I guess it's an omission rather than a revenge ;) >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the > wit and wisdom to do their job properly. Hmmm, for some reason I thought it was in the desktop release. we can append it to the 2.4.1 release. :( I wish you'd hollered when the final beta list went out. Oh and of course it was revenge, for leaving our happy little group and depriving us of your splendorous company. :) Will --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/jZxHZr3R5kgOZd0RAsIBAJ4qBTk7zkhtSnkf8mTek6ZuyVP4LACfW9C5 4GuNFcSVnfe5n0WBUHRJW2Y= =S6Eo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kdXuL3pLEJbxSI5MDOvz-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 08:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4F8186B3; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8C185DC; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9HCQv924577; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:27:00 +0100 Subject: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: GNOME Desktop Hackers Cc: "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:25:58 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch. libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9818888; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cougar.paw.za.org (cougar.paw.co.za [196.25.102.253]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C918D3A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by cougar.paw.za.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h9GDUDo08343; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: cougar.paw.za.org: apache set sender to djhouy@paw.za.org using -f Received: from 196.25.102.9 (proxying for 196.25.102.112) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djhouy) by webmail.paw.za.org with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Subject: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: "Derrick J Houy" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:12 +0200 (SAST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily see it and translate it." There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening it up for comments in this regard. Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be better off hosted at GNOME. The current CVS repository can be viewed at: http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ Regards, Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC7186DE; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (cosmos.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.2]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05CC18858; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vayu.gravity.psu.edu (vayu.gravity.psu.edu [128.118.29.55]) by cosmos.gravity.psu.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h9HEtZS11124; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 Received: by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix, from userid 59058) id 96BFE52A8A; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vayu.gravity.psu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96852A89; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Vandersloot To: Bastien Nocera Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" Subject: Re: libgtop merging In-Reply-To: <1066393558.699.13.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Regards, Kevin > Hello, > > Could somebody with more patience and CVS-fu than me try to merge > libgtop's libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch onto HEAD? > > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-latest tag is on the libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port > branch. > libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port-branchpoint on HEAD contains the point where the > module was branched for the GNOME 2.0 port. > > Cheers > > --- > Bastien Nocera > Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159CE181E5; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0DA181E5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9HGNOi13048; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:23:28 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Rose To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066407804.16742.1723.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 18:23:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: tor 2003-10-16 klockan 15.30 skrev Derrick J Houy: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. The home page seems to be http://www.paw.za.org/projects/gnome-alsamixer/. I'm personally all in favor of having this in GNOME CVS. Opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 12:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273518392; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0005.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914318392 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-080.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.80]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16CB53855E; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:52:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA46B3BE3; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC76C12B7BD; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer Message-ID: <20031017161737.GH28114@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Derrick J Houy , gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test6-mm4 i686 Reply-By: Tue Oct 21 02:12:24 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 02:12:24 up 1 day, 9:29, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.08 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:17:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. Hi Derrick, Not only would I encourage you to use GNOME CVS for your project (our i18n team will love you), but you may want to get in touch with Ted Gould [1], maintainer of gnome-media, because the mixer needs some ALSA love! Perhaps it would make sense to combine the two? It has been discussed on gnome-multimedia list in the last couple of weeks, so is already in people's heads as a todo item, particularly since Linux 2.6 is well on its way. Thanks, - Jeff [1] Ted Gould -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "First: This is not a race." - Jody Goldberg on the Free Software desktop _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 17 16:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF18119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370718119; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031017201845.VCRU13066.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:18:45 +0200 Subject: Re: GNOME ALSA Mixer From: Christian Schaller To: Derrick J Houy Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-multimedia@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> References: <36065.196.25.102.9.1066311012.squirrel@webmail.paw.za.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066421941.1188.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 17 Oct 2003 22:19:01 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Derrick, We plan on switching the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer 0.8.x for GNOME 2.6. The advantage of this is that we wouldn't need to compile the mixer with OSS or ALSA support (or any other sound architecture for that matter), but instead the mixer can be used with all the sound architectures we have support for in GStreamer. As mentioned by Mark so have we had a discussion on this on gnome-multimedia mailing list. If you would be interested in helping us with the alsa mixer support in GStreamer that would be really really wonderfull, in fact it would be highly needed. The OSS code is already in GStreamer CVS head and will be in our GStreamer 0.7.1 release that will happen in one of the next few days. Please either reply to this mail (think you can remove the gnome-hackers list from the cc'list and we take this onto gnome-multimedia) or come to #gstreamer on irc.freenode.com Ronald Bultje (BBB on IRC) is the person who has made both the OSS mixer interface in GStreamer and he has also made a mixer GUI for GNOME using it. Hope to hear back from you Derrick. Sincerely, Christian On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:30, Derrick J Houy wrote: > As the author and maintainer of GNOME ALSA Mixer, I usually host my > own CVS server with all my projects, but translators are requesting that > I host this project in GNOME CVS "so that all language teams can easily > see it and translate it." > > There are many people using this program, although I do not know whether > it qualifies as "a major contribution to GNOME", so I guess I am opening > it up for comments in this regard. > > Please submit your comments if you feel that this project would indeed be > better off hosted at GNOME. > The current CVS repository can be viewed at: > http://www.paw.za.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gnome-alsamixer/ > > Regards, > Derrick (or Dennis for those who know me by my old name) > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 10:37:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ECA18412; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3118111; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0E16087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 15993-01; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32816023; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Kevin Vandersloot Cc: Bastien Nocera , GNOME Desktop Hackers , "gnome-hackers@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:36:48 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: >=20 > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to d= o=20 > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory=20 > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) Cheers. >=20 > Regards, > Kevin --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/kqGAEuPMamD5V9cRAtkoAJ4nUg7gCoy9y+X6s4AF/UP7QiyL0wCghQtv 6VuNxewDr8Uoqx/0zXDJwhw= =NkhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-86Q0Kwuv2ty96fKt3EX1-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 11:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B416186A6; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F48186A4; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031019152646.HWVY2637.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:46 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:26:45 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) --- Bastien Nocera Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides gently compressed by a Thigh Master. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 13:06:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D87186F0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC9183B0; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B58F1608B; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 16328-10; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from allhosts (bilbo.pemas.net [192.168.1.3]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3616087; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T" Organization: GNOME Foundation Message-Id: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:05:13 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribi=F3: > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn wrote: > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribi=F3: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >=20 > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple = to do=20 > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable=20 > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directo= ry=20 > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts her= e. > >=20 > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) >=20 > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) Done, please, just test it. Cheers. P.S.: The old HEAD code has been branched as "before-gnome-2-0-merge" >=20 > --- > Bastien Nocera =20 > Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two other sides > gently compressed by a Thigh Master.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list --=20 Carlos Perell=F3 Mar=EDn Debian GNU/Linux Sid (PowerPC) Linux Registered User #121232 mailto:carlos@pemas.net || mailto:carlos@gnome.org http://carlos.pemas.net Valencia - Spain --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Esta parte del mensaje =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E1?= firmada digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/ksRIEuPMamD5V9cRAnjVAJ4okHA4v5kyAbDypbM8m14pgmV5PwCfYAV0 2F4msBcLJf4iF7VRNanQ6P8= =AKD5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+B3qYqJBYiXDQglpjN/T-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 19 22:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5763180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9F180E5; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0980453A8DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4A3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:13 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3A8612B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 11:18:53 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 11:18:53 up 16:23, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.09, 0.06 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:12 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good morning all, I have a little story to tell. The other weekend, I went paintballing. This is an incredibly violent activity, in which two teams dress up in army green overalls, don scary helmets, and shoot water-based paint pellets at each other with semi-automatic gas-powered rifles. As I surveyed the battlefield, a thought struck me - as hard as those little welt-inducing pellets were hitting the other team - that all these crazy kids running around in green overalls and facemasks looked just like... DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP. http://art.gnome.org/images/icons/gnome-people/Dave.png So this week, YOU TOO can be just like DAVE "CAPTAIN" CAMP, by releasing your latest MINDNUMBINGLY COOL software for the first GNOME 2.5 series release. If you're not excited now, just wait until we send Dave around to convince you that RELEASES ARE COOL. He sharpens his teeth, by the way. THE NEW MODULES BIT: If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and will be following the 2.5 series releases. If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by Wednesday or Thursday this week. Thanks, - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Whoever wrote [the Twisted documentation] uses a vivid and interesting style of prose which triggers pleasure." - Francois Pinard _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 05:15:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4788181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D14181B1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A574153B622; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A493BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:26 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBE5812B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Xan Lopez Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 17:08:34 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 17:08:34 up 22:13, 5 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.12 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:15:25 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > Good morning all, > (snip) > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > phases of the release process. > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. Thanks Xan, - Jeff [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:45:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F154188CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0B018104; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE94815231F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) To: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:27:52 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:15:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling against 2.2 will be fine? > > Thanks Xan, > > - Jeff > > [1] http://www.gtk.org/plan/2.4/ > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from > procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 06:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB5188A1; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from zugzwang.rosevear.com (CPE00045ae4cc2c-CM014410117597.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.114.92.171]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529FF18104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zugzwang.rosevear.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9K6ia1F010768 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:37 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - November, NY. From: JP Rosevear To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> References: <1065725669.8051.32.camel@gargantuan.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Ximian, Inc. Message-Id: <1066632275.10661.13.camel@zugzwang.rosevear.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:44:35 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 14:55, Nat Friedman wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We are pleased to announce the 2003 GNOME Summit, to be held November > 22nd, 23rd and 24th at Brooklyn College in New York. Some initial > information about the summit is available on the internet: Maybe this was covered while I was a way, but the registration form is pretty much US-centric if that makes a difference. -JP -- JP Rosevear Ximian, Inc. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 07:35:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA70181C5; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (nat-pool-surrey.redhat.com [66.187.227.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB751839F; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com (bnocera.surrey.redhat.com [172.16.10.53]) by gentoo.surrey.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9KBYf929515; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:34:42 +0100 Subject: Re: libgtop merging From: Bastien Nocera To: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Perell=F3_Mar=EDn?= Cc: Kevin Vandersloot , GNOME Desktop Hackers , Gnome Hackers , "gnome-i18n@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> References: <1066574208.1021.1.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> <1066577205.5456.0.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> <1066583112.1028.10.camel@bilbo.pemas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <1066649622.699.37.camel@dhcp-116.surrey.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:33:42 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 18:05, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > El dom, 19-10-2003 a las 17:26, Bastien Nocera escribió: > > On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:36, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: > > > El vie, 17-10-2003 a las 16:55, Kevin Vandersloot escribió: > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > > > Just to mention (not volunteering), that this is not quite so simple to do > > > > since libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch was made from the libgtop stable > > > > branch and not from HEAD. HEAD changed quite a bit (including directory > > > > structure) so it's not just a simple merge and look for conflicts here. > > > > > > Then, we could do just a copy from libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch to > > > HEAD, couldn't we? (or the HEAD branch has any useful code that we > > > should merge into libgtop-GNOME-2-0-port branch code?) > > > > We can mash HEAD. If you want to do the move, go have a try at it ;) > > Done, please, just test it. GNOME 2.4 version is in the gnome-2-4 branch. I'm starting to clean up HEAD. Cheers --- Bastien Nocera Even in his last years, Granddad had a mind like a steel trap, only one that had been left out so long it had rusted shut. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:10:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64801836C; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB67181E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C875539FF2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:05:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2073BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:53 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C49212B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 21:06:15 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 21:06:15 up 1 day, 2:11, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.02 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:06:52 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > against 2.2 will be fine? If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you won't be able to build half of the existing modules). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of "meme". _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650E188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD1188DA; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEM31687; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMEr20603; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:14 -0400 Received: from vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com (vpn50-38.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.50.38]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9KCMDt24974; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:13 -0400 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Owen Taylor To: Jeff Waugh Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:21:06 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 03:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribi?: > > > Good morning all, > > (snip) > > > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) > > > > So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just > > wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release > > takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several > > phases of the release process. > > > > We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I > > guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an assumed > part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the case. I > will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because it is very > important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CC2188E3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from tuxerver.net (182.Red-217-126-128.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.128.182]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8E18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tuxerver.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B991152374; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 (CEST) To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020120806.GA4658@tuxerver.net> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: garnacho@tuxerver.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:08:06 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:06:52PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > We're basically stuck. I had hoped that aggressive releases were an > > > assumed part of the GTK+ 2.4 plan [1], but that doesn't appear to be the > > > case. I will ask Owen if we can roll some pre-release tarballs, because > > > it is very important that we get all of this new stuff tested up front. > > > > but even if those pre-release tarballs don't happen before 2.5.0, > > compiling against gtk HEAD is a requirement, isn't it? or just compiling > > against 2.2 will be fine? > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). I guess it was an stupid question :-P... ok, then I'll have to check as soon as possible that everything works in the gnome system tools with gtk HEAD thanks > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > You know the end is nigh when modern art is relegated to the status of > "meme". > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 08:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9F18911; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.froggy.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14FB18478; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A3538FCF; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:21:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214CC3BE3; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D5F12B7E7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Owen Taylor Cc: Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031020122322.GI9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Owen Taylor , Xan Lopez , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1066652465.30158.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Thu Oct 23 22:23:07 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 22:23:07 up 1 day, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:23:22 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'll do GLib/Pango/GTK+ releases this week. We might even get in some > form of GtkFileChooser ... if not, that will be 2.3.1. Awesome, thanks very much Owen! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and righteously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism." - Darwinian System Administration _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 15:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593118196; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jrb@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9KJgU720818; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: jrb set sender to jrb@redhat.com using -f To: Mark Finlay Cc: Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-URL: From: Jonathan Blandford In-Reply-To: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 20 Oct 2003 15:42:30 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mark Finlay writes: > > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). > > There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on > HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems from GTK+ as we can. Thanks, -Jonathan _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178EA183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from helliconia (unknown [213.37.158.37]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17918145; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (helliconia [127.0.0.1]) by helliconia (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD79B807E; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Xan Lopez To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:52:26 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: El lun, 20-10-2003 a las 03:38, Jeff Waugh escribió: > Good morning all, (snip) > If you're already in the modules list, you know the drill. :-) So, I wonder what should modules depending already on GTK+ HEAD do. Just wait without releases until a GTK+ 2.3.0 release is out? If that release takes a lot of time we could get into serious troubles, missing several phases of the release process. We (Epiphany) already depend on a lot of features from GTK+ HEAD, so I guess it's too late to go back (or at least an incredible PAIN). > We'll release everything that builds and runs which is available by > Wednesday or Thursday this week. > > Thanks, > > - Jeff -- "The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages -- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already" [Edward Abbey] xan, xan@masilla.org _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 16:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA91C183B7; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (c106-105.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.106.105]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EC2180E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9KKAYKx004129; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Received: (from sisob@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9KKAYH2004127; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: sisob set sender to sisob@tuxfamily.org using -f Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Mark Finlay To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:10:34 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you > won't be able to build half of the existing modules). There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. -- Mark Finlay Computer Science Student E-Mail: sisob_AT_tuxfamily_DOT_org Jabber: sisob_AT_jabber_DOT_org Blog: http://sisob.tuxfamily.org http://advogato.org/person/sisob _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9954C180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-10.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.42]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4EB51821E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11244 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.henstridge.invalid) (203.59.242.135) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 21 Oct 2003 02:01:39 -0000 Received: from daa.com.au (dhcp-236.henstridge.invalid [10.0.42.236]) by home.henstridge.invalid (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102A43CA; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:01:28 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> From: James Henstridge User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-AU; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030927 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Blandford Cc: Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0800 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On 21/10/03 03:42, Jonathan Blandford wrote: >Mark Finlay writes: > > > >>>If we do pre-release tarballs, they'll be available for 2.5.0 (otherwise you >>>won't be able to build half of the existing modules). >>> >>> >>There will probably still be trouble with 2.5.0 - right now jhbuild on >>HEAD uses gtk HEAD and doesn't get very far before erroring out. >> >> > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems >from GTK+ as we can. > > This does bring up the question of whether it is right to have these flags turned on by default in tarball builds at all though. Do we want released tarballs to stop building in the future because some library they use deprecated a symbol in a future version? It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code designed to provide this compatibility. I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind of like -Werror ...). James. -- Email: james@daa.com.au WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 20 22:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12679183DC; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD6180DD; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90470538539; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:15:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65E3BE3; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5230D12B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021021723.GP9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: James Henstridge , Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 12:16:06 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 12:16:06 up 1 day, 17:21, 4 users, load average: 0.46, 0.20, 0.10 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:23 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > It sort of defeats the purpose of backward compatibility in the platform > if all of our applications explicitly turn off all the support code > designed to provide this compatibility. > > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be used; > just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball builds (kind > of like -Werror ...). I was thinking about this last night too, but when it comes to stuff in the Desktop and Developer Platform releases, it probably makes sense to keep them in there (at least for the time being). Certainly other modules should remove them, unless there's a good reason not to. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "There are men with an appetite for fight and a sense of occasion, and then there is Waugh." - SMH, about Steve _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 07:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1618938; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB831816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9LBTWSF009353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:29:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:24 +0200 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: veillard@redhat.com, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: RE: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:32:12 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > getting approval or no dissent from them. Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 21 08:46:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2618963; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (au-mai-0003.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2C1896C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m065-226.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.65.226]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3063E5385B1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:43:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E37D3BE3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:38 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F135812B7E7; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome-games 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031021124537.GX9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org References: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031021103313.GA5531@revolution-3> Reply-By: Fri Oct 24 22:41:12 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 22:41:12 up 2 days, 3:46, 4 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.07 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:45:37 +1000 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > So here it is, the first release of the new unstable series of gnome-games > and quite frankly I think I've done an excellent job of trying to make it > unstable. Ha ha ha. :-) THAT'S THE SPIRIT! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ W.O.R.K: Weekend Over, Resume the Killings. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 22 05:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1845180DA; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41930180DA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9M9ETW10361; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:14:29 -0400 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Qalculate! 0.3 From: Alexander Larsson To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Cc: Niklas Knutsson In-Reply-To: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> References: <20031021162229.570D440453@widget.gnome.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066814068.15104.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 22 Oct 2003 11:14:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 18:22, Niklas Knutsson wrote: > Application > =========== > > Qalculate! 0.3 > > Description > =========== > > Qalculate! is a modern multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux. It > is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility underneath. > Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary precision, > plotting, and a graphical interface (GTK+) that uses an one-line > fault-tolerant expression entry (although it supports optional traditional > buttons). > > Enhancements > ============ > > This release adds arbitrary precision, fractions, matrices, RPN, function > and data plotting, boolean operations, exact mode, exchange rates, a new > math display widget, increased function flexibility, new functions, XML > data files... ... and bug fixes. Man, this app rules! Its everything a computer based desktop calculator should be, and more. I can finally stop using python to do simple calculations. Thank you, thank you, thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl@redhat.com alla@lysator.liu.se He's an otherworldly Republican sorceror for the 21st century. She's a psychotic antique-collecting lawyer living on borrowed time. They fight crime! _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB2185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from akasha.mundoregio.com (unknown [66.6.75.106]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E718404; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amy.the-vox.com (dsl-200-67-6-15.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.6.15]) by akasha.mundoregio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD828000B; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Juan Pablo Mendoza To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1066704422.21343.6.camel@amy.the-vox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:47:02 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 21:00, James Henstridge wrote: > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). Maybe GTK+ guys can, in the next release, deprecate with DISABLE_GTK_2_6_DEPRECATED ? > James. -- Juan Pablo Mendoza Monterrey, Nuevo León. México. http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FA6185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from november.skynet.be (november.skynet.be [195.238.3.59]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4618110; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ana.onshuis (253.43-200-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.200.43.253]) by november.skynet.be (8.12.9/8.12.9/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h9L8FOxK031559; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 (envelope-from ) Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: James Henstridge Cc: Jonathan Blandford , Mark Finlay , Jeff Waugh , GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> <1066632746.671.14.camel@helliconia> <20031020071524.GD9275@lazarus> <20031020102752.GA6125@tuxerver.net> <20031020110651.GF9275@lazarus> <1066680633.3836.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F94932B.2000805@daa.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066724123.2260.51.camel@ana.onshuis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (november.skynet.be) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:15:24 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > >Yeah. I've been removing all the -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED flags locally > >for now to get it all building. But we should all try to branch and get > >building on GTK+-HEAD ASAP, so that we can shake out as many problems > >from GTK+ as we can. > I am not saying that the *_DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros should never be > used; just that they shouldn't be turned on by default for tarball > builds (kind of like -Werror ...). I agree. With GStreamer, we usually have Werror on for CVS and off for releases, and I was planning to add other stuff as well, like deprecation. I think it would make sense to do this for GNOME as well; hammer out as many bugs as possible from CVS, but make the releases as buildable as possible. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> I feel like I'm at something you always say you need more time Well I'll stay right here and I'll wait for good until I find a love worth mine <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:45:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E8185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE81182C4; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LB3d831353; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers Cc: release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021070339.B16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus>; from jdub@perkypants.org on Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:03:39 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:38:12AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > If you're keen to see your software included in GNOME 2.6, please make a > release this week, and send an email to desktop-devel-list and > release-team to let everyone know that you've proposed your module and > will be following the 2.5 series releases. libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and getting approval or no dissent from them. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB50185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8584218825; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031021214222.JUIX5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:42:22 +0200 Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GStreamer delivered From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Jeff Waugh Cc: GNOME Desktop Hackers , GNOME Hackers , gnome-multimedia@gnome.org, gstreamer-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> References: <20031020013812.GC9275@lazarus> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066772562.1187.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 21 Oct 2003 23:42:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, We just released GStreamer 0.7.1 today. It is meant as the unstable release series for GNOME 2.5 leading up to shipping 0.8.0 with GNOME 2.6. As you all know we have been doing a stable GStreamer 0.6.x series now for the GNOME 2.2 and GNOME 2.4, but since the 0.6.x branch has reached its peaked we felt it was time to move forward with a new stable series based of CVS head. While this do constitute a breakage of ABI we will work together with Ted to make sure gnome-media is working well with the new branch. (I think sound-recorder also works with 0.7?) The new release will be mostly source compatible actually, which is why you can use current Rhythmbox with both the 0.6.x branch and this new 0.7.x branch. We will also migrate the mixers in GNOME to using GStreamer with this release. Code for this is in GStreamer 0.7.1 and we have a new GNOME mixer in the gst-sandbox CVS module on gst.net. This we will try and get moved into gnome-multimedia as soon as possible to replace the current mixer. The advantage of this is that we can compile the gnome-mixer once and it will work with both ALSA and OSS under Linux or OSS or Solaris Audio on Solaris (1). The new 0.7.x branch has a lot of improvements compared to the 0.6 branch, especially for video applications as it supports more formats both for decoding/demuxing and for muxing/encoding. It also features good error handling, better typefinding and soon a new metadata system. There is probably also a tonn of other stuff in here I don't even remember now. Many people have been hacking on this for quite some while now in CVS :) Another feature of 0.7.x is that Thomas will soon be working fulltime on it :) I am working on a small technical summary of what we did at the GStreamer meeting in Barcelona last month and what we plan ahead. We will also be making a normal release announcement for GStreamer 0.7.1 with more details, but my planned effort on that today was derailed as I was commandeered elsewhere as part of my service to Larry :) (1) Solaris Audio and Alsa implementations missing atm, but we hope to solve that soonish :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB65185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (pix-525-pool.redhat.com [66.187.233.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00141816D; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from veillard@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id h9LBlG816231; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 From: Daniel Veillard To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org Subject: Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.0 Development Release Message-ID: <20031021074716.C16905@redhat.com> Reply-To: veillard@redhat.com References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840059@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com>; from Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:47:16 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:32:12PM +0200, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > From: release-team-admin@gnome.org > > libxml2-2.6.0 is installed on master, I have made > > everything possible to garantee ABI/API stability in the face > > of huge changes in the code base. The only part which got > > deprecated early is the DocBook SGML parser, > > and did it only after consulting the relevant users, and > > getting approval or no dissent from them. > > Will GNOME 2.4 still work if libxml 2.4.0 is updated to libxml 2.6.0? I run GNOME 2.4 on libxml2 2.6.0 without troubles so far, yes. The couple of compatibility bugs which have been found in the 1.5 month it took to build 2.6.0 have been fixed immediately, In practice it should work, maybe with the exception of handling DocBook SGML docs, which I think should have been fixed by GNOME 2.4 anyway. Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 05:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90019185CC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC28B181AA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ACqQA-00031C-Oz for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome.org #2666] new module and cvs account References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:07:45 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account information. Thanks for considering the project! Todd Christian Rose via RT wrote: > > [todd@dropline.net - Thu Oct 23 19:45:15 2003]: > >>I've been working on a CD burner using the GNOME 2.4 libraries, and >>was wondering if there was interest in putting the code into GNOME's >>CVS. I have a simple webpage setup with project details and >>screenshots at http://www.dropline.net/optimystic. There are also >>instructions for downloading the current code, but as it's hosted off >>of a cable modem, it is not a permanant solution. Does this look >>appropriate for GNOME CVS? > > > In my opinion yes, but please also suggest this on the > gnome-hackers@gnome.org mailing list -- that way more people will know > about the request and can state their opinions, and we can use the > general opinion on that list as a reference on whether we can import > this to GNOME CVS. > > Also, should people on gnome-hackers@gnome.org be positive about this, > we need more details from you in order to be able to create an account. > The list of details we need is at > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/policies/accounts/ . > > > Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 07:16:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1118625; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAE318625 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (E405.sparta.afb.lu.se [194.47.241.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h9OBG1Y07211; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:16:01 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Rose To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 13:16:02 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > information. Thanks for considering the project! I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to GNOME CVS myself. Any opinions? Christian _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A701879B; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2F1849C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031024172806.XECR5266.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@localhost.localdomain>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:28:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 (1.4.3-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 19:28:28 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Todd, Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) Christian On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 13:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account > > information. Thanks for considering the project! > > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. > > Any opinions? > > > Christian > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C3418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E518616 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from as583.emma.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.248.82]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AD0x9-0004Nq-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Andrew Sobala To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , GNOME Hackers In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN" Message-Id: <1066998148.4651.0.camel@gondor.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:22:28 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:16, Christian Rose wrote: > fre 2003-10-24 klockan 03.07 skrev Todd Kulesza: > > Forwarded as per Christian's suggestion. If the concensus is that=20 > > Optimystic should be in GNOME CVS, I'll send my preferred account=20 > > information. Thanks for considering the project! >=20 > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Yes, it looks nice and it would be great to have it in GNOME CVS. --=20 Andrew Sobala Given by our hand in the meadow that is called Runnymede, between Windsor and Staines, on the fifteenth day of June in the seventeenth year of our reign. --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mRmEBv9K3NCDvFYRAns3AJ4t4vx1RZzD/HTqKvBdofDCOldJSACfe8yR G9iFT1Sjd5e2KxN3c3+V9ys= =AdAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ukLd/RvtPHeRbjyMssGN-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282618186 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [68.72.228.34] (helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.24) id 1AD2Kb-0004RY-4n; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xavier Bestel Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> In-Reply-To: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:50:19 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xavier Bestel wrote: > Does it use cdrecord ? > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems, porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300C18782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079718154 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD1jP-0004HK-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:55 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Christian Rose Cc: Todd Kulesza , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 13:16, Christian Rose a =E9crit : > I think Optimystic (a CD creation tool, > http://www.dropline.net/optimystic/) looks like a terrific addition to > GNOME CVS myself. >=20 > Any opinions? Does it use cdrecord ? Xav _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 17:41:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F9418782; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from awak (AGrenoble-101-1-3-75.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.251.75]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1EC18376 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=6-allhosts ident=root) by awak with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AD2j5-0004QX-00; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Xavier Bestel To: Todd Kulesza Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067001100.9777.0.camel@nomade> <3F992E1B.20908@dropline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1067004937.9771.3.camel@nomade> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:38 +0200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 24/10/2003 =E0 15:50, Todd Kulesza a =E9crit : > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > Does it use cdrecord ? > >=20 >=20 > No, it uses libburn, a new CD burner access library. I've talked to the=20 > maintainer, and while he said it currently only supports Linux systems,=20 > porting to other UNIX systems should not be difficult at all. Oh sorry, I overlooked that on the web site. IMHO you should put it in the "features" section :) _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 18:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD18DCC; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73018D97; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnocera.surrey.redhat.com ([62.253.119.5]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031024222520.PZDG12263.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@bnocera.surrey.redhat.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:20 +0100 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Bastien Nocera To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067034319.5515.8.camel@wyatt.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:25:19 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) We already have a CD and DVD burner that works on more than just Linux... And if RB makes it, we can probably work towards having audio burning in there as well. --- Bastien Nocera Never do today that which will become someone elses responsibility tomorrow. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Fri Oct 24 19:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17E418DAE; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from isis.pcis.net (cr.pcis.net [207.18.226.3]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4818818; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lyric.ofsloans.com (unverified [209.180.142.225]) by isis.pcis.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:36:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) From: Will LaShell To: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller Cc: Todd Kulesza , Gnome Hackers In-Reply-To: <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Message-Id: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:35:59 -0700 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > Hi Todd, > Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it > belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. Will --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/mbdfZr3R5kgOZd0RAlpQAKCQOJ4aqCrvHEOdXIFf5zqJuXY1PgCgnrsu DBxiRatmv0wVZV/BT4vCVow= =5vG9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AZrb2w8LXnIMu71feK73-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52461818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from dienu.cyberpixels.com (dienu.cyberpixels.com [216.180.241.226]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E311810C; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcp01733610pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net ([68.60.44.233] helo=dropline.net) by dienu.cyberpixels.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADG5L-0002mr-44; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3F99FCC0.50002@dropline.net> From: Todd Kulesza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031019 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will LaShell Cc: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller , Gnome Hackers Subject: Re: Including Optimystic in CVS (was Re: new module and cvs account) References: <3F987B61.20007@dropline.net> <1066994161.4735.576.camel@daim> <1067016508.1186.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> In-Reply-To: <1067038561.7012.3.camel@lyric.ofsloans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dienu.cyberpixels.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dropline.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:32:00 -0400 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Will LaShell wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:28, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > >>Hi Todd, >>Optimystic looks great! Not only should it go into GNOME CVS, I think it >>belongs in GNOME 2.6 :) > > > s/GNOME 2.6/Fifth Toe/ :) > > But only because we have existing cd burning stuff. > Will > > Yeah, I wasn't planning on proposing Optimystic as the official GNOME CD burner; I just want a CVS home for it :) Fifth Toe, on the other hand, sounds perfectly appropriate once Optimystic's code has solidified. Todd _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA51818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB31182EB for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QFqCPh029545 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CHBG2Y6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CHCG2Z6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tO7FuKxFCiQjB1K07YWTpg== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:52:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Christian, > We are doing a push to create a large collection of flags available > in SVG format. To accomplish this we need as many people as possible to > get involved and send us a SVG version of their local flags. > > Please check out our article on gnomedesktop.org > http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1421&mode=&order=0&thold=1 Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. For more on the faces project see: http://faces.sourceforge.net http://www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 14:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30E41818B; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48618844 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-bos-1.sfbay.sun.com ([129.146.14.23]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9QGtYxA018656 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from stard (stard.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.93.127]) by bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 (built Sep 24 2003)) with SMTP id <0HND00CMIJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! To: uraeus@linuxrising.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Reply-To: Rich Burridge Message-id: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: C7J1hxLj38WJRXW/zy9hVw== X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:55:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > ... > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a vector format. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 16:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F112187C9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:53:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB615187C9 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hhlinux.no.oracle.com ([80.111.66.106]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20031026213452.WDGG13165.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@hhlinux.no.oracle.com>; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:34:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Christian Schaller To: Rich Burridge Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:39:55 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of submissions :) Christian On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > ... > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > vector format. > > _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 17:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC851819E; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:43:03 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from peabody.ximian.com (peabody.ximian.com [141.154.95.10]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB8B184B1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost.localdomain) (xkahn@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2003 22:42:31 -0000 Subject: Re: Join the SVG Flag revolution! From: Benjamin Kahn To: Christian Schaller Cc: Rich Burridge , gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <0HND00CMJJ0L6Y10@bos-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <1067204394.7944.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067208132.11391.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:42:12 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Rich, The application you're looking for is called autotrace. The frontend is called frontline. You can find them here: http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/ http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/frontline It works okay, although it's a fairly manual process. (Actually, it might get more automatic if you have a bunch of similar images.) My experience shows that it's good for starting the sketch, but works best if you're prepared to clean the image up afterward. On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 16:39, Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi Rich, > I don't know any such tools, and I have to admit to being sceptical of > the quality of such conversions. Luckily we are already getting lots of > submissions :) > > Christian > > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 17:55, Rich Burridge wrote: > > > Do you have anything that can convert from .gif format to SVG format? > > > > > > Over the last 10-12 years, Steve Kinzler has captured a *lot* of flags > > > as the "unknown" image for each domain, for the faces project. They are > > > in .gif format. They might be a good starting point. > > > ... > > > For that collection of small .gifs of various domains, see: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/picons/db/domains.tar.Z > > > > Ack! What I meant to say was, do you have anything that can convert > > from .xpm to SVG format? Each of the faces are in .xbm, .gif and .xpm, > > the latter being the one most likely to be able to be converted to a > > vector format. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-hackers mailing list > gnome-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers -- Benjamin Kahn Special Projects W: 617 / 375 - 3811 Support Manager F: 401 / 712 - 8649 Security Team _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Sun Oct 26 23:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB6182B9; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:12:49 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from esco.mine.nu (c-67-167-205-161.client.comcast.net [67.167.205.161]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B59181B4; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from jcape by esco.mine.nu with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ADyjy-00007B-Fr; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Subject: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: "James M. Cape" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB" Organization: Project Mayhem Message-Id: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:12:26 -0600 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the GTcpSocket library, and is available at: http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. It's currently broken due to the massive API/code organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does build, and will definately be stable (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread issues re: closing sockets). The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: GNet: + Uses GObject. + Multi-threaded. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + Easily extensible. + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Link: + Not private to ORBit :-). + More detailed signals and error reporting. + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). GTcpSocket: + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). GnomeVFS: + GObject. + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate verification, for example). + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). And most importantly, it'll be used by gnome-network :-). To get an idea of how it's used: void sent_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void recv_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, gconstpointer data, gulong length, gpointer user_data); void error_cb (GNetworkConnection * cxn, GError * error, gpointer user_data); void cxn_starter (gpointer data) { GObject *cxn; cxn =3D gnetwork_tcp_connection_new (GNETWORK_TCP_PROXY_HTTP, "127.0.0.1", 80); g_signal_connect (cxn, "notify::tcp-status", notify_tcp_status_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "sent", sent_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "received", recv_cb, NULL); g_signal_connect (cxn, "error", error_cb, NULL); gnetwork_connection_open (GNETWORK_CONNECTION (cxn)); } There's also a server object :-). --=20 Peace, Jim Cape http://ignore-your.tv "It is literally true that, like Christianity, Socialism has conquered the world by defeating itself." -- Alexander Berkman, ABC of Anarchism --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nJspCSU9pcw97v0RAhmcAKCzuQPdp7uSVz+ATEXB40QCZAAecQCg1jON ttcwA+sOzlgAPCZdCKAWEXQ= =xggU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vhsD9CdeYVuL2BILZnFB-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 02:13:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54F189D7; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:13:09 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2E189D0; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (m079-132.nv.iinet.net.au [203.217.79.132]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305D538054; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:09:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4F3BE3; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B8212BA10; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031027071202.GY9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: "James M. Cape" , gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Reply-By: Thu Oct 30 18:10:45 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 18:10:45 up 7 days, 22:15, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:12:02 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I realize this is very late, but I'm trying to get libgnetwork into 2.5.0. (It's not too late as a general 2.6 proposed module, or for 2.5.0 - looks like we're going to have all kinds of *_DEPRECATED problems, so 2.5.0 is virtually on hold at the moment. Hoping to resolve that this week. You should probably send this email to desktop-devel-list too. Thanks!) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I think a lot of the basis of the open source movement comes from procrastinating students." - Andrew Tridgell _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2E18A34; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:40:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from soumis.mandrakesoft.com (ezoffice.mandrakesoft.com [212.11.15.34]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CBA18A06; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinidad.mandrakesoft.com (trinidad.mandrakesoft.com [192.168.100.216]) by soumis.mandrakesoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D367; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:39:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Frederic Crozat To: "James M. Cape" Cc: gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Organization: Mandrakesoft Message-Id: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:33 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lun 27/10/2003 à 05:12, James M. Cape a écrit : > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Link: I think you mean linc > + Not private to ORBit :-). This is no longer the case.. With ORBit 2.8.x, linc was merged back into ORBit2 as linc2 > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the future.. -- Frederic Crozat Mandrakesoft _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 05:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13EA18A47; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725DE189EE; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95216022; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08475-05; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598051608D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Frederic Crozat Cc: "James M. Cape" , GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> References: <1067227945.30066.36.camel@esco.mine.nu> <1067251052.3104.3.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067251955.31096.77.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:52:35 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:37, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > You have forgotten libsoup which is still used by Evolution (but it will > no longer be the case with evolution 2.0).. > evolution 2.0 will still be using soup. > Is there any hope to try to consolidate some (if not all) those libs in > one RULE-THEM-ALL network lib ? Having yet another network library will > probably not help for GNOME platform adoption for network stuff in the > future.. > that was my main goal when talking with Jim about merging libgtcpsocket into libgnetwork. I think libgnetwork now provides a good base, and we just need to adapt the code in other libraries to it. One of the most interesting things might be to add libsoup's HTTP/HTTPS implementation, which is working pretty well now for evo 2.0 thanks to Dan Winship. Also, gmdns will be integrated very soon. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Mon Oct 27 18:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5C18B4D; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:48:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (wintermute.sr.unh.edu [132.177.241.100]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AD181A5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wintermute.sr.unh.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9RDaVPW010578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Received: (from tjb@localhost) by wintermute.sr.unh.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id h9RDaVkc010576 for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: wintermute.sr.unh.edu: tjb set sender to tjb@unh.edu using -f Subject: Re: New Wallpaper Properties Dialog From: "Thomas J. Baker" To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> References: <1067213909.2499.38.camel@blackbox.boston.ximian.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO" Organization: University of New Hampshire's Research Computing Center Message-Id: <1067261791.10205.1.camel@wintermute.sr.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-5) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 19:18, Rodney Dawes wrote: > I have just released the initial revision of the new wallpaper capplet > that I have been working on in my spare time, and has been under > discussion on gnome-themes-list. This initial release is quite > featureful, yet it is still missing the "random" feature that was in > my mock up, as well as some other features and functionality that are > outlined in the TODO file that is included in the tarball. >=20 > The main feature is the storage of meta-data and the list of available > wallpapers, in an XML file in ~/.gnome2/. For each individual image, the > filename, a descriptive name, image scaling type, background color type, > and background colors are all stored. There is no DTD yet, but one will > be written for the next release. >=20 > Also left to do, is to write the logic for detecting if the image is a > tile or should be scaled or what. It currently detects most tiled images > already though, on the basis of height vs. width. If they are the same, > Tiled is automatically selected. >=20 > I'm also proposing that we replace the current capplet(s) with this one > for GNOME 2.6. >=20 > Here are the relevant URLs: >=20 > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-real.png > http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/gnome-wallpaper-properties-0.2.0.tar.gz >=20 > -- dobey I don't know if it's possible or not but is there any hope of getting multimonitor support for wallpapers. It would be nice if it could detect multiple monitors and allow for different images on each. Thanks, tjb --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Thomas Baker email: tjb@unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/nR9foCtjjhzuY8QRAiyZAKCD4IF1BwCw8wOt4c503Zd5XCn+cwCggDBg d5mHc+mU9zYB85R8sK+YgO4= =ZjQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WLewynQE1WgYiTM6K5fO-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 03:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0021815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:13:04 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F21815F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9S8AQoB002128; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:10:26 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:13:09 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I'm trying to get > libgnetwork into 2.5.0. It's a rename/rework of the > GTcpSocket library, and is available > at: > > http://esco.mine.nu/downloads/libgnetwork-0.0.0.tar.gz > > and the 'libgnetwork' module in CVS. You need to update the README for the new project name, and you should add a MAINTAINERS file. Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful than the other networky APIs? For instance, it looks like it would be useful for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. Compared to libgnetwork, I guess that interprocess communication would be better done with dbus or CORBA, and reading/writing of file-based information would be better done with gnome-vfs. Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > build, and will definately be stable > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > issues re: closing sockets). > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > GNet: GNet == libgnetwork, right? > + Uses GObject. > + Multi-threaded. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + Easily extensible. > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on December 8th, by the way: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > Link: > + Not private to ORBit :-). > + More detailed signals and error reporting. > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > + DNS API (it's sexy :-)). > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). Linc has been removed from the public API of the Development Platform, so it's no longer really relevant. > GTcpSocket: > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > GnomeVFS: > + GObject. > + (Eventually) more complete SSL support (X509 certificate > verification, for example). > + Non-HTTP Proxy support: currently supports HTTP, SOCKS4, and > SOCKS5 (HTTPS/SSL & FTP are planned). Non-HTTP: HTTP? Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 04:22:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4391813F; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BF1813F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from phys-eris-2 ([129.156.85.26]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9M3UP028409 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slipstream (vpn-129-150-153-4.Aus.Sun.COM [129.150.153.4]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG001K9NCNM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for gnome-hackers@gnome.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:22:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Glynn Foster Subject: [Fwd: Call for Submissions: Tutorials] To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Message-id: <1067422727.2276.27.camel@slipstream> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR" X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:18:47 -1200 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Just in case anyone feels like earning a bit of money ;) Glynn --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Call for Submissions: Tutorials Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-path: Received: from eris-mail1.uk.sun.com [129.156.85.66] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.13) for gman@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:14:16 -1200 (GMT+12) Received: from sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.220.30]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNG00105MZHM5@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for Glynn.Foster@Sun.COM; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.246.180]) by sunire.Ireland.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E3ih000835 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com ([192.18.42.13]) by sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id h9S9E2C08415 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay21.sun.com (relay21.sun.com [192.12.251.14] (may be forged)) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9S9E2UP025089 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mms22es.sun.com ([150.143.232.30] [150.143.232.30]) by relay21i.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:02 +0000 (Z) Received: from mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com (mms23bas.mms.us.syntegra.com [192.12.251.50]) by mms22es.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from mail.ltt.de ([62.159.60.178] [62.159.60.178]) by relay23.sun.com with ESMTP for glynn.foster@sun.com; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:14:01 +0000 (Z) Received: from ltt.de ([192.168.50.101]) by mail.ltt.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13796; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:18:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:10:45 +0100 From: Roberto Zicari Subject: Call for Submissions: Tutorials To: proctors , Glynn Foster Message-id: <3F9E3296.BA0C734E@ltt.de> Organization: LogOn Technology Transfer GmbH MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Accept-Language: en,de-DE Original-recipient: rfc822;glynn.foster@sun.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI-- Regards Roberto Zicari ---------------------------------------------------------------- LogOn Technology Transfer is looking for tutorial submissions for its new series of LogOn Briefings. The following three series of Briefings are taking place in co-location in January 2004: LogOn Briefing: OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Open Source & Linux@work Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 LogOn Briefing: Security (Protect your Business) Amsterdam, January 20, 2004 Zurich, January 27, 2004 Frankfurt, January 28, 2004 The LogOn Briefings are building upon the established series of OMG Information Days and Linux@work. Each LogOn Briefing will offer a broad technical tutorial program in the morning. The afternoons are dedicated to corporate lectures, vendor neutral case studies, keynotes, and an exhibition. ** This call is for tutorial submissions. ** ############################################# Call for tutorial submissions -- Instructions: Submissions for the morning tutorial program should cover a **technical** subject, related to one of the three topics of the briefings: - OMG (Integrating the Enterprise) - Open Source & Linux@work - Security (Protect your Business) A detailed list of event topics can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/call-for-submissions.shtml The tutorials are addressed to a technical audience that is looking for in depth education on specific topics. Tutorial sessions will be 3 hrs long. Speaker Compensation: EUR 400 flat plus 1 night hotel Interested individuals or organisations are invited to submit +++ not later than October 31, 2003 +++ a brief abstract of the presentation, including a short biography of the presenter. Abstract length should be no longer than 1 page or 150 words. Submissions should be sent using the form at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/submissions-form.shtml Any questions can be addressed to: Mr. Matthias Neumann Conference Management LogOn Technology Transfer e-mail: neumann@ltt.de Background Information: For a look at past OMG Information Days and Linux@work events including final reports and photos, please visit http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/final-report.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/final-report.shtml Attendee profile and events evaluation can be found at http://www.ltt.de/omg-days.2003/evaluation.shtml http://www.ltt.de/linux-at-work.2002/evaluation.shtml A sample of past tutorials can be found at: http://www.ltt.de/logon-briefings.2004/tutorial-sample.shtml ## --=-wvmyphMZz58q6NehRVXR-- _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 07:30:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF7185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from gollum.pemas.net (69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.33.181.69]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C85185A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F0116097; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gollum.pemas.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Gollum [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 29136-08; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from gasteiz.home (211.Red-80-59-90.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by gollum.pemas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC48160DA; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 From: Rodrigo Moya To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, GNOME Hackers , gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B3858018404BC@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1067344232.19535.63.camel@gasteiz.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at pemas.net X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:30:32 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:13, Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com wrote: > > Can you explain very simply what it's useful for, and when it is more useful > than the other networky APIs? > the idea is that there are a lot of network APIs out there, but none is standardized enough to be in the GNOME platform. When we re-started gnome-network, we wanted to fix that, by providing a rule-them-all library (thanks fcrozat for the term :-) to be included in the GNOME platform. We tried to contact gnet's maintainer, but didn't get any answer, so then we found libgtcpsocket, and asked James about renaming it to libgnetwork and push it for inclusion in GNOME 2.6. We chose libgtcpsocket because it is the best networking API I've found myself. It's GObject-based (as opposed to gnet, which isn't) and provides a very good base for building more high-level networking services. > For instance, it looks like it would be useful > for implementing things like web servers, ssh terminal connections, and > maybe for implementing networking protocols (e.g. ssh, ftp?), on top of TCP. > yes, but not only for servers, but also for clients. One of the examples of this is libgircclient, in CVS also, which uses libgtcpsocket (still) for implementing an IRC client. This libgircclient might be added also to libgnetwork. > Are you trying to add this to the GNOME Development Platform, or just to the > GNOME Desktop so that gnome-network can use it? > I'd vote for the platform, if possible. If not, just to the desktop so that gnome-network can use it. But I think it would be a good idea to provide a standard networking API in the GNOME platform, as many other OSes/environments provide. > I like the idea of this API existing, because I tend to work in companies > that constantly reimplement this stuff badly. However, I'm not sure > personally how useful it is to the typical GNOME application. > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > It's currently broken due to the massive API/code > > organization changes I spent the last week on, but it does > > build, and will definately be stable > > (code- and API-wise) enough to use before 2.6.0 (The stuff > > that's left is filling in the missing pieces, and some thread > > issues re: closing sockets). > > > > The pros/cons vs some other networking libs: > > > > GNet: > > GNet == libgnetwork, right? > no, gnet -> http://www.gnetlibrary.org/ > > + Uses GObject. > > + Multi-threaded. > > + Automatic proxy traversal (nearly transparent to apps). > > + Easily extensible. > > + GNUTLS *or* OpenSSL. > > - Doesn't handle URIs or UDP (yet). > > - Doesn't support UDP or Unix sockets (yet). > > Are these "yet" items planned for GNOME 2.6, or later? API/ABI freeze is on > December 8th, by the way: > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/ > I intend to integrate, if time permits, gmdns into this library, which uses, AFAIK, UDP, so we might probably have a UDP implementation by then. About UNIX sockets, I don't know what James is planning, but it might be a very good idea to add it. > > > GTcpSocket: > > + Much cleaner object hierarchy & signals (using > > GNetwork{Connection,Server}Iface). > > This seems to be part of libgnetwork now anyway. > it's been renamed, and it is being changed to not only allow TCP, but any sort of network connection. That's what the 'Much cleaner object hierarchy' talks about. cheers _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 08:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8818AFE; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:27:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from smtp1.infineon.com (smtp1.infineon.com [194.175.117.76]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4DE18ACC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com (vih.ifx-mail3.com [172.31.163.97]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9SDMdoB024779; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:22:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by vihsx03a.vih.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:40 +0100 Message-ID: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> From: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com To: rodrigo@gnome-db.org Cc: jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:25:20 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] > well, if we push it right into the platform, we might come to > having all GNOME applications using this for their networking > access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, etc, etc, etc), which > would be a good move. Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use it. Murray Cumming www.murrayc.com murrayc@usa.net _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Tue Oct 28 09:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF04F18B5E; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:42:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (mail.visp.flow.com.au [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAFE18B2C; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C63E53840A; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:38:32 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278E93BE3; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:38 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD30E12BA10; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com Cc: rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gnome-network]RE: Including libgnetwork in 2.5.0 Message-ID: <20031028144037.GZ9275@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com, rodrigo@gnome-db.org, jcape@ignore-your.tv, gnome-hackers@gnome.org, gnome-network-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <258B0164D480D5118D900800062B385801840552@vihsx09a.vih.infineon.com> Reply-By: Sat Nov 1 01:33:14 EST 2003 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Uptime: 01:33:14 up 9 days, 5:38, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:40:37 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > From: Rodrigo Moya [mailto:rodrigo@gnome-db.org] well, if we push it > > right into the platform, we might come to having all GNOME applications > > using this for their networking access (evolution, xchat, gnome-blog, > > etc, etc, etc), which would be a good move. > > Because this seems to be a new API, I'd like it to get more usage before > being added to the platform. However, that's only an issue for the > Platform, not the Desktop. It might be added to the Desktop if it's needed > by a Desktop application such as the proposed gnome-network. In the > meantime, it doesn't need to be in the Platform for applications to use > it. Agree. I would *very strongly* recommend that we *always* shift new libraries into the Desktop (or another appropriate release set or transition module, such as Office and libegg) before attempting to get them into the platform. We've made mistakes like this in the past, and we ought to have learned from them. Linus gets this right - stuff goes in when it's proven and in use. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "NASCAR is not race per se. It's just a contest about who can turn left the best." - Unknown _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8EC1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from mail.froggy.com.au (unknown [202.129.90.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35FE1870B; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org (unknown [203.173.25.246]) by mail.froggy.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90625380A6; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:02:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263843BE3; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:09 +1100 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE0CC12BA10; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Subject: Announcing GNOME.conf.au 2004 Message-ID: <20031030010508.GJ7082@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Friends , GNOME Hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.0-test8 i686 Reply-By: Sun Nov 2 12:03:25 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 12:03:25 up 10 days, 16:08, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +1100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gooooooood morning everybody! Announcing the first Australian GNOME.conf.au 2004 hacker's conference! Who'll be coming? ----------------- Havoc Pennington! James Henstridge! Plus lots of other people who haven't told me they're coming yet! Stay tuned for more info. When? Where? ------------ 12th-13th January, 2004, in the great city of Adelaide, in co-operation with Australia's premier Free Software and Open Source developer's conference, linux.conf.au! Check out their site (http://lca2004.linux.org.au/) for all the details on the main conference and for conference registration. It's going to kick serious arse again! Note that you must be attending the full conference to join in with the GNOME.conf.au fun, not that you'd seriously consider missing the main event! What? Why? ---------- On Monday, a selection of casual presentations, mini-tutorials and technical demos. On Tuesday, a hackfest! We'll have a list of things soon, but not a proper schedule. That would restrict our creativity (read: potential laziness, beer intake and hacking time). Further news will appear on the GNOME.conf.au webite: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ "IBM is the proud Penguin Sponsor of Linux.Conf.Au 2004" Thanks, - Jeff -- Come to gnome.conf.au 2004! http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/2004/gnome.conf.au/ Wake up and smell the penguin. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers From gnome-hackers-admin@gnome.org Wed Oct 29 20:11:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195D187B6; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:11:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gnome-hackers@gnome.org Received: from 3rivieres.vuntz.net (3rivieres.vuntz.net [80.65.224.121]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD836187B5; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id B63083D16; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from brindas (brindas.vuntz.net [10.0.0.4]) by 3rivieres.vuntz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CC23D05; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from vuntz by brindas with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AF1Ks-0000Lp-00; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 From: Vincent Untz To: foundation-announce@gnome.org, foundation-list@gnome.org, gnome-hackers@gnome.org Subject: Reminder - GNOME Foundation elections Message-ID: <20031030011050.GB638@vuntz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 02:10:50 +0100 Sender: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-hackers-readonly-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-hackers-readonly@gnome.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Read-only copy of gnome-hackers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, This is a reminder for the elections for the GNOME Foundation. If you want to be able to vote or to be a candidate for the elections, please apply for membership before October 31st, 23:59 UTC. There's only 2 days left to apply before the membership committee closes the applications for the elections. You can apply using the form at: http://foundation.gnome.org/membership-form.php You can look at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/voters.html to see people who will be able to vote as of October 30th. Please look at this list before applying for membership or renewing your membership: you don't need to apply if you're in the list. If you want to be a candidate, please announce your candidacy before November 7th, 23:59 UTC. You may nominate yourself to run for election by sending an e-mail to foundation-announce@gnome.org with your name, e-mail address, corporate affiliation (if any), and a description of why you'd like to serve. You should also send a summary of your candidacy announcement (75 words or less) to elections@gnome.org. Timeline -------- (all deadlines are 23:59 UTC/18:59 EST) October 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23(24)25 list of candidates opened (24th) -26-27-28-29-30(31)-- WE ARE HERE applications/renewals closed for elections (31st) November 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 (7) 8 start collecting questions for the candidates (3rd) all candidates must be announced (7th), questions to be sent to the candidates are choosed (7th) 9(10)11 12 13 14 15 announce list of candidates running for election, questions emailed to all candidates (10th) 16 17 18 19 20(21)22 ballots go out (21st) 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 December 2003 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 all ballots must be returned (5th) 7 (8) 9 10 11 12 13 preliminary election result announced (8th) 14 15 16 17 18(19)20 challenges to election results close (19th) 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 In the case of a tie, there's another round of votes starting December 8th and ending December 15th. Questions --------- For the complete announcement of the elections, please see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2003-October/msg00001.html For more information, please look at the elections procedures at http://foundation.gnome.org/elections/2003/rules.html. If you have any questions, feel free to send them to elections@gnome.org or to foundation-list@gnome.org. The GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Eric Baudais Andy Tai Ghee Teo Vincent Untz -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas presses. _______________________________________________ gnome-hackers mailing list gnome-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-hackers