From thomas at xyz.pp.se Wed Oct 2 07:55:59 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:55:59 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Items not being added to the library Message-ID: Hello I have mentioned this in two other threads here but now I'm making a separate one for this issue to get more spotlight; some items in my datastore is not being added to the library. How can I resolve this? I have 23112 photos + 1867 videos (24979 total) in the Shotwell library but in the datastore there are 27265 photos+videos. So how do I make all the missing ones appear? Rgds//Thomas From thomas at xyz.pp.se Wed Oct 2 08:02:15 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:02:15 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Items not being added to the library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Btw, both Missing files and Trash are empty. And this is my Shotwell version: $ apt-cache policy shotwell shotwell: Installed: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 Candidate: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 Version table: *** 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Rgds//TN On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thomas Novin wrote: > Hello > > I have mentioned this in two other threads here but now I'm making a > separate one for this issue to get more spotlight; some items in my > datastore is not being added to the library. > > How can I resolve this? > > I have 23112 photos + 1867 videos (24979 total) in the Shotwell library > but in the datastore there are 27265 photos+videos. So how do I make all > the missing ones appear? > > Rgds//Thomas > From eric at yorba.org Fri Oct 4 01:13:18 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (eric) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 01:06:18 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell 0.15 released Message-ID: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> Hello, We at Yorba are pleased to bring you Shotwell 0.15. This version has several enhancements: * Copy and paste color adjustments between photos * Highlights detail adjustment * YouTube plugin now uses OAuth / OpenID * Videos in Missing Files now re-import properly * Improvements when thumbnailing videos * Numerous bug fixes The Shotwell 0.15 tarball is available for download. See the installation guide for information on getting Shotwell on your system. Report bugs and feature requests at Yorba?s Redmine server . (You must create an account before adding or modifying tickets there.) Ubuntu users can also find a version for Raring Ringtail (13.04) and Quantal Quetzal (12.10) on Yorba's PPA . Adventurous users may also wish to subscribe to Yorba?s Daily PPA . - Eric From dwlloyd at telus.net Fri Oct 4 04:31:41 2013 From: dwlloyd at telus.net (D.W. Lloyd) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 22:31:41 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 Message-ID: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> Hi, I am running Shotwell 0.13 on Xubuntu 12.10 quantel. I tried to update to 0.15 by: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/ppa sudo apt-get update The Software Updater showed a library, and Shotwell 0.15. The library had a check mark, and Shotwell did not. I could not check Shotwell. I updated the library, rebooted, and checked for updates again. Shotwell 0.15 did not appear as an available update. So I still have Shotwell 0.13 installed, but now it doesn't run. Can anyone tell me how to complete the update to 0.15? Thank you. From clanlaw at googlemail.com Fri Oct 4 08:16:50 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:16:50 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> Message-ID: On 4 October 2013 05:31, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Shotwell 0.13 on Xubuntu 12.10 quantel. I tried to update to > 0.15 by: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/ppa > sudo apt-get update > > The Software Updater showed a library, and Shotwell 0.15. The library had a > check mark, and Shotwell did not. I could not check Shotwell. I updated the > library, rebooted, and checked for updates again. Shotwell 0.15 did not > appear as an available update. > > So I still have Shotwell 0.13 installed, but now it doesn't run. Having added the repository and done sudo apt-get update then running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should automatically pick up the new shotwell If not then what does apt-cache policy shotwell show? Colin From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 5 07:53:49 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 08:53:49 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> Message-ID: Don't forget to include the list in your reply. On 4 October 2013 18:18, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > [snip] > When I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get this: > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: > shotwell > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. > > apt-cache policy shotwell shows this: > > shotwell: > Installed: 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 > Candidate: 0.15.0-1~quantal2 > Version table: > 0.15.0-1~quantal2 0 > 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 > Packages > *** 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 0 > 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main i386 > Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 0.13.0-0ubuntu3 0 > 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 Packages > For some reason it is not upgrading Shotwell. This is usually the result of doing upgrade rather than dist-upgrade. Just to keep me happy can you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade copy/paste the command into the terminal see if you still get shotwell held back. If that does not do it then you could just remove shotwell and re-install it, that should sort it. As long as you do not use purge when you uninstall it should keep your configuruation (I believe, but make sure you have all the shotwell stuff backed up anyway). sudo apt-get remove shotwell sudo apt-get install shotwell Colin From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 5 17:15:59 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 18:15:59 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> Message-ID: You forgot to reply to the list again, forwarding it there again. On 5 October 2013 17:22, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > > On 13-10-05 01:53 AM, Colin Law wrote: >> >> Don't forget to include the list in your reply. >> >> On 4 October 2013 18:18, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> When I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get this: >>> >>> Reading package lists... Done >>> Building dependency tree >>> Reading state information... Done >>> Calculating upgrade... Done >>> The following packages have been kept back: >>> shotwell >>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. >>> >>> apt-cache policy shotwell shows this: >>> >>> shotwell: >>> Installed: 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 >>> Candidate: 0.15.0-1~quantal2 >>> Version table: >>> 0.15.0-1~quantal2 0 >>> 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 >>> Packages >>> *** 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 0 >>> 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main >>> i386 >>> Packages >>> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >>> 0.13.0-0ubuntu3 0 >>> 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 >>> Packages >>> >> For some reason it is not upgrading Shotwell. This is usually the >> result of doing upgrade rather than dist-upgrade. Just to keep me >> happy can you do >> >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> copy/paste the command into the terminal see if you still get shotwell >> held back. >> >> If that does not do it then you could just remove shotwell and >> re-install it, that should sort it. As long as you do not use purge >> when you uninstall it should keep your configuruation (I believe, but >> make sure you have all the shotwell stuff backed up anyway). >> >> sudo apt-get remove shotwell >> sudo apt-get install shotwell >> >> Colin >> > Hi Colin, > > I tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > Shotwell is still held back. > > So I tried: > > > sudo apt-get remove shotwell > sudo apt-get install shotwell > > and got this: > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > shotwell : Depends: libgee-0.8-2 (>= 0.8.3) but it is not going to be > installed > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Try sudo apt-get install -f If that says it can't fix something then post the result again, otherwise install shotwell again. If you still get the problem then I don't know the answer, I think it needs a developer who knows about the shotwell dependencies to comment. Colin From dwlloyd at telus.net Sat Oct 5 18:33:32 2013 From: dwlloyd at telus.net (D.W. Lloyd) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:33:32 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> Message-ID: <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> On 13-10-05 11:15 AM, Colin Law wrote: > You forgot to reply to the list again, forwarding it there again. > > On 5 October 2013 17:22, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >> On 13-10-05 01:53 AM, Colin Law wrote: >>> Don't forget to include the list in your reply. >>> >>> On 4 October 2013 18:18, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >>>> [snip] >>>> When I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get this: >>>> >>>> Reading package lists... Done >>>> Building dependency tree >>>> Reading state information... Done >>>> Calculating upgrade... Done >>>> The following packages have been kept back: >>>> shotwell >>>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. >>>> >>>> apt-cache policy shotwell shows this: >>>> >>>> shotwell: >>>> Installed: 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 >>>> Candidate: 0.15.0-1~quantal2 >>>> Version table: >>>> 0.15.0-1~quantal2 0 >>>> 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/yorba/ppa/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 >>>> Packages >>>> *** 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 0 >>>> 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main >>>> i386 >>>> Packages >>>> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >>>> 0.13.0-0ubuntu3 0 >>>> 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 >>>> Packages >>>> >>> For some reason it is not upgrading Shotwell. This is usually the >>> result of doing upgrade rather than dist-upgrade. Just to keep me >>> happy can you do >>> >>> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> >>> copy/paste the command into the terminal see if you still get shotwell >>> held back. >>> >>> If that does not do it then you could just remove shotwell and >>> re-install it, that should sort it. As long as you do not use purge >>> when you uninstall it should keep your configuruation (I believe, but >>> make sure you have all the shotwell stuff backed up anyway). >>> >>> sudo apt-get remove shotwell >>> sudo apt-get install shotwell >>> >>> Colin >>> >> Hi Colin, >> >> I tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> Shotwell is still held back. >> >> So I tried: >> >> >> sudo apt-get remove shotwell >> sudo apt-get install shotwell >> >> and got this: >> >> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have >> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable >> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created >> or been moved out of Incoming. >> The following information may help resolve the situation: >> >> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >> shotwell : Depends: libgee-0.8-2 (>= 0.8.3) but it is not going to be >> installed >> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > Try > sudo apt-get install -f > > If that says it can't fix something then post the result again, > otherwise install shotwell again. If you still get the problem then I > don't know the answer, I think it needs a developer who knows about > the shotwell dependencies to comment. > > Colin Hi Colin, Sorry about not replying to the list. I didn't know about that. This time I clicked on Reply List in Thunderbird, so I hope that did it. I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image backup and I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the best. :-) Many thanks for your help. I learned a few things. Dominic > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 5 20:07:46 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 21:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> Message-ID: On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > > I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image backup and > I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the best. :-) For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install ppa-purge and sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa should have taken you back to where you started. Colin From dwlloyd at telus.net Sat Oct 5 20:46:30 2013 From: dwlloyd at telus.net (D.W. Lloyd) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 14:46:30 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> Message-ID: <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> On 13-10-05 02:07 PM, Colin Law wrote: > On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >> I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image backup and >> I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the best. :-) > For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install ppa-purge and > sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa > should have taken you back to where you started. > > Colin Good to know. Thanks Colin. > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From Jim at jamesahart.us Sun Oct 6 15:13:29 2013 From: Jim at jamesahart.us (jh) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 11:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell 0.15 released In-Reply-To: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> References: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52517E19.30907@jamesahart.us> Why isn't Ubuntu 12.04 included as a target version? On 10/3/13 9:13 PM, eric wrote: > Hello, > > We at Yorba are pleased to bring you Shotwell 0.15. This version has > several enhancements: > * Copy and paste color adjustments between photos > * Highlights detail adjustment > * YouTube plugin now uses OAuth / OpenID > * Videos in Missing Files now re-import properly > * Improvements when thumbnailing videos > * Numerous bug fixes > > The Shotwell 0.15 tarball > is > available for download. See the installation guide > for information on > getting Shotwell on your system. Report bugs and feature requests at > Yorba?s Redmine server . > (You must create an account before adding or modifying tickets there.) > > Ubuntu users can also find a version for Raring Ringtail (13.04) and > Quantal Quetzal (12.10) on Yorba's PPA > . Adventurous users may > also wish to subscribe to Yorba?s Daily PPA > . > > - Eric > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sun Oct 6 15:21:13 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:21:13 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell 0.15 released In-Reply-To: <52517E19.30907@jamesahart.us> References: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> <52517E19.30907@jamesahart.us> Message-ID: On 6 October 2013 16:13, jh wrote: > Why isn't Ubuntu 12.04 included as a target version? Or to put it another way, it would be great if the ppa had a build for 12.04. Is that possible? Colin > > On 10/3/13 9:13 PM, eric wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> We at Yorba are pleased to bring you Shotwell 0.15. This version has >> several enhancements: >> * Copy and paste color adjustments between photos >> * Highlights detail adjustment >> * YouTube plugin now uses OAuth / OpenID >> * Videos in Missing Files now re-import properly >> * Improvements when thumbnailing videos >> * Numerous bug fixes >> >> The Shotwell 0.15 tarball >> is >> available for download. See the installation guide >> for information on getting >> Shotwell on your system. Report bugs and feature requests at Yorba?s Redmine >> server . (You must create an >> account before adding or modifying tickets there.) >> >> Ubuntu users can also find a version for Raring Ringtail (13.04) and >> Quantal Quetzal (12.10) on Yorba's PPA >> . Adventurous users may also wish >> to subscribe to Yorba?s Daily PPA >> . >> >> - Eric >> _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From mail at csordaslaszlo.hu Sun Oct 6 15:32:16 2013 From: mail at csordaslaszlo.hu (csola) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 17:32:16 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell 0.15 released In-Reply-To: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> References: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52518280.4020106@csordaslaszlo.hu> Why isn't Ubuntu 12.04 LTS(!!!) included as a target version? csola From thomas at xyz.pp.se Sun Oct 6 19:14:55 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 21:14:55 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy Message-ID: Hello If it is easy to add support for Saucy in the Yorba PPA, please do it. Saucy has 0.15pr3 via official sources but that is obviously not the final version. 13.10 is released in 10 days so you might as well do it now :) Rgds//Thomas From thomas at xyz.pp.se Sun Oct 6 19:19:13 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 21:19:13 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Items not being added to the library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I resolved it by emptying a table in the Shotwell DB called TombstoneTable. 0. shutdown shotwell if running 1. In ~/.local/share/shotwell/data, mv photo.db photo.db.bak 2. echo '.dump' | sqlite3 photo.db.bak > photo.sql 3. grep -v TombstoneTable photo_edited.sql 4. sqlite3 photo.db < photo.txt 5. restart Shotwell 6. remove temporary files if everything is good Rgds//Thomas On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Thomas Novin wrote: > Btw, both Missing files and Trash are empty. > > And this is my Shotwell version: > > $ apt-cache policy shotwell > shotwell: > Installed: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 > Candidate: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 > Version table: > *** 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 0 > 500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Rgds//TN > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thomas Novin wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I have mentioned this in two other threads here but now I'm making a >> separate one for this issue to get more spotlight; some items in my >> datastore is not being added to the library. >> >> How can I resolve this? >> >> I have 23112 photos + 1867 videos (24979 total) in the Shotwell library >> but in the datastore there are 27265 photos+videos. So how do I make all >> the missing ones appear? >> >> Rgds//Thomas >> > > From thomas at xyz.pp.se Sun Oct 6 19:20:37 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 21:20:37 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Items not being added to the library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ooops, typo. This is the correct procedure: 0. shutdown shotwell if running 1. In ~/.local/share/shotwell/data, mv photo.db photo.db.bak 2. echo '.dump' | sqlite3 photo.db.bak > photo.sql 3. grep -v TombstoneTable photo.sql > photo_edited.sql 4. sqlite3 photo.db < photo_edited.sql 5. restart Shotwell 6. remove temporary files if everything is good Rgds//Thomas On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Thomas Novin wrote: > I resolved it by emptying a table in the Shotwell DB called TombstoneTable. > > 0. shutdown shotwell if running > 1. In ~/.local/share/shotwell/data, mv photo.db photo.db.bak > 2. echo '.dump' | sqlite3 photo.db.bak > photo.sql > 3. grep -v TombstoneTable photo_edited.sql > 4. sqlite3 photo.db < photo.txt > 5. restart Shotwell > 6. remove temporary files if everything is good > > Rgds//Thomas > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Thomas Novin wrote: > >> Btw, both Missing files and Trash are empty. >> >> And this is my Shotwell version: >> >> $ apt-cache policy shotwell >> shotwell: >> Installed: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 >> Candidate: 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 >> Version table: >> *** 0.15.0~pr3-0ubuntu1 0 >> 500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages >> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >> >> Rgds//TN >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thomas Novin wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> I have mentioned this in two other threads here but now I'm making a >>> separate one for this issue to get more spotlight; some items in my >>> datastore is not being added to the library. >>> >>> How can I resolve this? >>> >>> I have 23112 photos + 1867 videos (24979 total) in the Shotwell library >>> but in the datastore there are 27265 photos+videos. So how do I make all >>> the missing ones appear? >>> >>> Rgds//Thomas >>> >> >> > From jim at yorba.org Mon Oct 7 17:44:42 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:37:42 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> We'd rather wait a couple of days and let them make it available, as their version will be "authoritative" for Saucy users. -- Jim On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Thomas Novin wrote: > Hello > > If it is easy to add support for Saucy in the Yorba PPA, please do it. > > Saucy has 0.15pr3 via official sources but that is obviously not the > final > version. > > 13.10 is released in 10 days so you might as well do it now :) > > Rgds//Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From jim at yorba.org Mon Oct 7 17:51:01 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:44:01 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell 0.15 released In-Reply-To: <52518280.4020106@csordaslaszlo.hu> References: <524e1630.e49b420a.0153.ffffb7e5@mx.google.com> <52518280.4020106@csordaslaszlo.hu> Message-ID: <5252f487.e2a1440a.15e8.34b5@mx.google.com> Because 12.04 has libraries that are 18 months old, and Shotwell needs newer versions of those libraries to fix the bugs and allow the features we've added. There's a big misconception about LTS. LTS does not mean new software written two years after an LTS release is expected to run on it. I recommend reading this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS Specifically, LTS is not: "A Feature-Based Release: We will focus on hardening functionality of existing features, versus introducing new ones..." If someone in the community wants to patch Shotwell 0.15 to run on 12.04, they're welcome to do so. If they do that and place it on a PPA, we'd be more than happy to announce it on our blog. But I do know that will re-introduce some bugs we've fixed (specifically a memory leak we discovered in libgee) and perhaps some others, in particular support of various cameras, as 12.04 uses old versions of gphoto2 and LibRaw. -- Jim On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM, csola wrote: > Why isn't Ubuntu 12.04 LTS(!!!) included as a target version? > > csola > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From jim at yorba.org Mon Oct 7 18:07:52 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:00:52 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> Message-ID: <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> On Friday we fixed the packaging problem with libgexiv2 and Shotwell. You shouldn't have to purge the PPA. I would recommend sudo apt-get -f install and removing the old packages and then adding them again. -- Jim On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > > On 13-10-05 02:07 PM, Colin Law wrote: >> On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >>> I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image >>> backup and >>> I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the best. >>> :-) >>> >> For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install >> ppa-purge and >> sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa >> should have taken you back to where you started. >> >> Colin >> > Good to know. Thanks Colin. > >> _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From dwlloyd at telus.net Tue Oct 8 02:36:28 2013 From: dwlloyd at telus.net (D.W. Lloyd) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:36:28 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52536FAC.3000805@telus.net> Hi Jim, I restored again from my image backup, which took me back to Shotwell 0.13 with no Shotwell 0.15 stuff on my system. Then I did this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/ppa sudo apt-get update Since I was starting again from scratch, the above should have worked, shouldn't it? But it didn't. The Software Updater shows: libgexiv2-1 (checked) shotwell (not checked, and I couldn't check it) I'm not sure what you mean by "removing the old packages and then adding them again." Would that help in this situation? How do I do it? Thanks, Dominic On 13-10-07 12:07 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > On Friday we fixed the packaging problem with libgexiv2 and Shotwell. > You shouldn't have to purge the PPA. I would recommend sudo apt-get > -f install and removing the old packages and then adding them again. > > -- Jim > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >> On 13-10-05 02:07 PM, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >> >> I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from >> image backup and I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while >> and hope for the best. :-) >> >> For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install >> ppa-purge and sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa should have taken you >> back to where you started. Colin >> >> Good to know. Thanks Colin. >> >> _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing >> list Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From thomas at xyz.pp.se Thu Oct 10 18:03:07 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:03:07 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> References: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Who is fixing this? Because it is still the same pr3-version and now they have announced final freeze for today. "Final Freeze for Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy) at 2100UTC today" - from Ubuntu Announce ML. Rgds//Thomas On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > We'd rather wait a couple of days and let them make it available, as their > version will be "authoritative" for Saucy users. > > -- Jim > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Thomas Novin wrote: > > Hello If it is easy to add support for Saucy in the Yorba PPA, please do > it. Saucy has 0.15pr3 via official sources but that is obviously not the > final version. 13.10 is released in 10 days so you might as well do it now > :) Rgds//Thomas _______________________________________________ Shotwell > mailing list Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > From clanlaw at googlemail.com Thu Oct 10 19:46:09 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:46:09 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: References: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 10 October 2013 19:03, Thomas Novin wrote: > Hi > > Who is fixing this? Because it is still the same pr3-version and now they > have announced final freeze for today. Don't panic. It doesn't really matter whether it is in the release or not. As soon as it works its way through the system it will appear as an update. Colin From dwlloyd at telus.net Fri Oct 11 02:46:48 2013 From: dwlloyd at telus.net (D.W. Lloyd) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: <52536FAC.3000805@telus.net> References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> <52536FAC.3000805@telus.net> Message-ID: <52576698.30008@telus.net> Hi again, I uninstalled 0.13 and installed 0.15. That worked fine. All my tags etc. were preserved. Dave On 13-10-07 08:36 PM, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I restored again from my image backup, which took me back to Shotwell > 0.13 with no Shotwell 0.15 stuff on my system. Then I did this: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yorba/ppa > sudo apt-get update > > Since I was starting again from scratch, the above should have worked, > shouldn't it? But it didn't. > > The Software Updater shows: > > libgexiv2-1 (checked) > shotwell (not checked, and I couldn't check it) > > I'm not sure what you mean by "removing the old packages and then > adding them again." Would that help in this situation? How do I do it? > > Thanks, > Dominic > From jim at yorba.org Fri Oct 11 02:54:26 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:50:26 -0004 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: References: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52576864.e90f310a.5f01.ffff8b0b@mx.google.com> Colin's correct, even if it doesn't make the final freeze it can be updated later in their repos. I've contacted Ubuntu to ask when that might happen. -- Jim On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Colin Law wrote: > On 10 October 2013 19:03, Thomas Novin wrote: >> Hi >> >> Who is fixing this? Because it is still the same pr3-version and >> now they >> have announced final freeze for today. >> > Don't panic. It doesn't really matter whether it is in the release or > not. As soon as it works its way through the system it will appear as > an update. > > Colin > From jim at yorba.org Sat Oct 12 15:32:38 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:28:38 -0004 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: <52576864.e90f310a.5f01.ffff8b0b@mx.google.com> References: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> <52576864.e90f310a.5f01.ffff8b0b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <52596b98.e4b0320a.5ce7.ffff822c@mx.google.com> I've been informed that 0.15 final was accepted into Saucy, so you should see it shortly. -- Jim On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > Colin's correct, even if it doesn't make the final freeze it can be > updated later in their repos. I've contacted Ubuntu to ask when that > might happen. > > -- Jim > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Colin Law > wrote: >> On 10 October 2013 19:03, Thomas Novin wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Who is fixing this? Because it is still the same pr3-version and >>> now they >>> have announced final freeze for today. >>> >> Don't panic. It doesn't really matter whether it is in the release >> or >> not. As soon as it works its way through the system it will appear >> as >> an update. >> >> Colin >> From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 12 16:01:17 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:01:17 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Saucy In-Reply-To: <52596b98.e4b0320a.5ce7.ffff822c@mx.google.com> References: <5252f30c.4a92420a.3bca.7449@mx.google.com> <52576864.e90f310a.5f01.ffff8b0b@mx.google.com> <52596b98.e4b0320a.5ce7.ffff822c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 12 October 2013 16:32, Jim Nelson wrote: > I've been informed that 0.15 final was accepted into Saucy, so you should > see it shortly. It appeared as an update for me earlier today. Colin From rileyrg at gmail.com Sat Oct 12 18:28:39 2013 From: rileyrg at gmail.com (Richard Riley) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:28:39 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Unsuscribe Message-ID: From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 12 19:46:08 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:46:08 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Unsuscribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12 October 2013 19:28, Richard Riley wrote: Wrong on two counts. Firstly that is not how to spell unsubscribe and secondly that would not do it anyway. To unsubscribe go to the link shown at the bottom of each email: http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell and click "Unsubscribe or edit options" down near the bottom. Colin > > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From jim at yorba.org Sat Oct 12 20:35:30 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:31:30 -0004 Subject: [Shotwell] Unsuscribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5259b295.450d320a.056a.ffffba94@mx.google.com> Actually, I already unsubscribed Richard manually, so that's taken care of. -- Jim On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Colin Law wrote: > On 12 October 2013 19:28, Richard Riley wrote: > > Wrong on two counts. Firstly that is not how to spell unsubscribe and > secondly that would not do it anyway. To unsubscribe go to the link > shown at the bottom of each email: > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > and click "Unsubscribe or edit options" down near the bottom. > > Colin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From clanlaw at googlemail.com Sat Oct 12 20:39:02 2013 From: clanlaw at googlemail.com (Colin Law) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:39:02 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Unsuscribe In-Reply-To: <5259b295.450d320a.056a.ffffba94@mx.google.com> References: <5259b295.450d320a.056a.ffffba94@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 12 October 2013 21:35, Jim Nelson wrote: > Actually, I already unsubscribed Richard manually, so that's taken care of. Which just goes to show that computers have got a long way to go to get anywhere near what one might tentatively call intelligence :) Colin > > -- Jim > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Colin Law wrote: > > On 12 October 2013 19:28, Richard Riley wrote: Wrong on > two counts. Firstly that is not how to spell unsubscribe and secondly that > would not do it anyway. To unsubscribe go to the link shown at the bottom of > each email: http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell and > click "Unsubscribe or edit options" down near the bottom. Colin > > _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From the9ull at silix.org Wed Oct 16 18:58:26 2013 From: the9ull at silix.org (Martino Salvetti) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:58:26 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] Label import from f-spot Message-ID: Good evening, I'm a user coming from f-spot and I'm appreciating Shotwell very much. I imported the labels from the f-spot database (I was keeping the keywords also into JPG files). F-spot and shotwell have different view of nested labels: in f-spot the label keyword#2 (the nested label) doesn't imply keyword#1 (the parent label); Shotwell do it. After the import I have two versions of the nested labels: one of them is nested inside the tree of label and the other at the top layer. My photos have both versions. Is it this situation solvable? Thanks (and thanks againg for the great software) Martino From brunogirin at gmail.com Sun Oct 20 19:04:50 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:04:50 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Label import from f-spot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Martino, The F-Spot import doesn't try to be smart and just imports all the labels it finds. >From memory, the problem results from the way labels are specified in the F-Spot database combined with the way F-Spot stores them in EXIF data: in the database, they are stored in nested format while in EXIF they are stored without nesting so the F-Spot specific code imports them with correct nesting as they are in F-Spot, while the generic import code imports the non-nested versions. To fix this, the F-Spot import code would need to give the generic part of the import a list of labels it should ignore. Not impossible to do but would require some changes to the internal plugin API. As I'm no longer active on Shotwell development (due to real world time constraints), I won't be able to look into this but I'm happy to point anybody who is willing to get their hands dirty into the right direction. Cheers, Bruno On 16 October 2013 19:58, Martino Salvetti wrote: > Good evening, > > I'm a user coming from f-spot and I'm appreciating Shotwell very much. > I imported the labels from the f-spot database (I was keeping the > keywords also into JPG files). F-spot and shotwell have different view > of nested labels: in f-spot the label keyword#2 (the nested label) > doesn't imply keyword#1 (the parent label); Shotwell do it. > After the import I have two versions of the nested labels: one of them > is nested inside the tree of label and the other at the top layer. My > photos have both versions. > Is it this situation solvable? > > Thanks (and thanks againg for the great software) > Martino > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From alistairfrith at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 11:29:35 2013 From: alistairfrith at gmail.com (Alistair Frith) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:29:35 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Hello and migration question Message-ID: Hi, I have been using Shotwell happily (but probably not very efficiently) for a few years now and built up a database of with tags and star ratings to categorise around 14-years worth of photos. I have just bought a new laptop to replace our aging desktop and, largely at the wife's insistence, have kept Windows-7 on it. I want to migrate all my photos to it. Unfortunately it does not look like the Windows port of Shotwell has kept up with Linux. It appears to be versioin 0.4. So when I esported from Linux to a portable hard-drive and then imported the photos onto the laptop last night, despite them having all my tags in the metadata, it did not pick them up (and doesn't appear to support tags at all). It also did not pick up my ratings but it does not look like they are saved in the metadata anyway so that is not a huge surprise. What are my options here? Is there any way of running a recent version of Shotwell under Windows-7? What other software can I use that will import the tags from the metadata? Is there any way of exporting the star-rating with the photos? Many thanks for any advice, --- Alistair. From alistairfrith at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 22:22:53 2013 From: alistairfrith at gmail.com (Alistair Frith) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:22:53 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Joseph, unfortunately, that didn't seem to do anything: alistair at Study:~$ sudo apt-get -f install shotwell Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done shotwell is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. alistair at Study:~$ If I uninstall shotwell (don't know the apt- command for this) will that also delete my database so when I re-install all my ratings are gone anyway? Or will it leave the database so the re-install picks it all up again? --- Alistair On 21 October 2013 22:21, Joseph B wrote: > Alistair, > Try Jim's suggestion here. > "sudo apt-get -f install" removing the old packages and then adding them > again (libgexiv2 and shotwell). > -Joe. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jim Nelson > Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 > To: "D.W. Lloyd" > Cc: shotwell at lists.yorba.org > > > On Friday we fixed the packaging problem with libgexiv2 and Shotwell. You > shouldn't have to purge the PPA. I would recommend sudo apt-get -f install > and removing the old packages and then adding them again. > > -- Jim > > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.W. Lloyd wrote: > >> >> On 13-10-05 02:07 PM, Colin Law wrote: >> >>> On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >>> >>>> I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image >>>> backup and >>>> I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the best. :-) >>>> >>>> For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install >>> ppa-purge and >>> sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa >>> should have taken you back to where you started. >>> >>> Colin >>> >>> Good to know. Thanks Colin. >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Shotwell mailing list >>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > > > -- > 347-829-5863 > -- Work: alistair.frith at capula.co.uk Personal: alistairfrith at gmail.com Twitter: @alistairfrith From jim at yorba.org Mon Oct 21 23:05:21 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:58:21 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Hello and migration question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5265b32d.6904420a.11cb.0ef3@mx.google.com> I'm actually surprised anyone is still using Shotwell on Windows. It's been a long time. No, there's been no further work on Shotwell for Windows. It's possible that someone could try porting it, but they will probably run into significant issues, in particular camera support (libgphoto2 does not work on Windows, at least the last time I checked). I don't know what version of GTK and GLib currently run on Windows either. In short, it would be a large task to convert the latest version of Shotwell to Windows. If you enable metadata writing with Shotwell (which will alter your photo files), most photo management software should be able to import it, although I can't recommend any on Windows. -- Jim On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alistair Frith wrote: > Hi, I have been using Shotwell happily (but probably not very > efficiently) > for a few years now and built up a database of with tags and star > ratings > to categorise around 14-years worth of photos. > > I have just bought a new laptop to replace our aging desktop and, > largely > at the wife's insistence, have kept Windows-7 on it. I want to > migrate all > my photos to it. Unfortunately it does not look like the Windows port > of > Shotwell has kept up with Linux. It appears to be versioin 0.4. So > when I > esported from Linux to a portable hard-drive and then imported the > photos > onto the laptop last night, despite them having all my tags in the > metadata, it did not pick them up (and doesn't appear to support tags > at > all). It also did not pick up my ratings but it does not look like > they are > saved in the metadata anyway so that is not a huge surprise. > > What are my options here? Is there any way of running a recent > version of > Shotwell under Windows-7? What other software can I use that will > import > the tags from the metadata? Is there any way of exporting the > star-rating > with the photos? > > Many thanks for any advice, > > --- Alistair. > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From alistairfrith at gmail.com Tue Oct 22 07:53:08 2013 From: alistairfrith at gmail.com (Alistair Frith) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:53:08 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Hello and migration question In-Reply-To: <5265b32d.6904420a.11cb.0ef3@mx.google.com> References: <5265b32d.6904420a.11cb.0ef3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jim, Yes, I had come to the conclusion that it would probably take a lot of work porting the current version to Windows. Want I want to do is get the photos into a state where I can import them into something else, Picasa most likely, or possibly Shotwell running in a Linux VM and looking at the files on the host Windows machine, if that is possible. Or I could dual-boot if I have to and again point Shotwell at the Windows partition. I have not tried importing them into anything else yet, but I think I need the ratings saved to the files anyway, even if I import back into Shotwell on a VM/dual-boot, so I need the latest version on my old machine. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, upgrading to 0.15 has actually stopped it working completely! I did get a suggestion to use "apt-get install -f shotwell" but that had no effect at all. Any other suggestions hugely welcome! On 22 October 2013 00:05, Jim Nelson wrote: > I'm actually surprised anyone is still using Shotwell on Windows. It's > been a long time. > > No, there's been no further work on Shotwell for Windows. It's possible > that someone could try porting it, but they will probably run into > significant issues, in particular camera support (libgphoto2 does not work > on Windows, at least the last time I checked). I don't know what version > of GTK and GLib currently run on Windows either. > > In short, it would be a large task to convert the latest version of > Shotwell to Windows. If you enable metadata writing with Shotwell (which > will alter your photo files), most photo management software should be able > to import it, although I can't recommend any on Windows. > > -- Jim > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alistair Frith > wrote: > > Hi, I have been using Shotwell happily (but probably not very efficiently) > for a few years now and built up a database of with tags and star ratings > to categorise around 14-years worth of photos. I have just bought a new > laptop to replace our aging desktop and, largely at the wife's insistence, > have kept Windows-7 on it. I want to migrate all my photos to it. > Unfortunately it does not look like the Windows port of Shotwell has kept > up with Linux. It appears to be versioin 0.4. So when I esported from Linux > to a portable hard-drive and then imported the photos onto the laptop last > night, despite them having all my tags in the metadata, it did not pick > them up (and doesn't appear to support tags at all). It also did not pick > up my ratings but it does not look like they are saved in the metadata > anyway so that is not a huge surprise. What are my options here? Is there > any way of running a recent version of Shotwell under Windows-7? What other > software can I use that will import the tags from the metadata? Is there > any way of exporting the star-rating with the photos? Many thanks for any > advice, --- Alistair. _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > -- Work: alistair.frith at capula.co.uk Personal: alistairfrith at gmail.com Twitter: @alistairfrith From jim at yorba.org Tue Oct 22 23:57:10 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:50:10 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 In-Reply-To: References: <524E44AD.80009@telus.net> <524EF86A.5030808@telus.net> <52503CE1.5040506@telus.net> <52505B7C.6050608@telus.net> <52507AA6.1050409@telus.net> <5252f87a.a541440a.6c4a.3cd7@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <526710d7.043b440a.27ad.191d@mx.google.com> Uninstalling Shotwell will not delete your database, only remove the software from your computer. If you want to be sure, you can follow these instructions on backing up your database (which is a good idea anyway): http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/shotwell/wiki/ShotwellFAQ#How-can-I-back-up-my-Shotwell-library -- Jim On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Alistair Frith wrote: > Thanks Joseph, unfortunately, that didn't seem to do anything: > > alistair at Study:~$ sudo apt-get -f install shotwell > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > shotwell is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. > alistair at Study:~$ > > > If I uninstall shotwell (don't know the apt- command for this) will > that > also delete my database so when I re-install all my ratings are gone > anyway? Or will it leave the database so the re-install picks it all > up > again? > > --- Alistair > > > On 21 October 2013 22:21, Joseph B wrote: > >> Alistair, >> Try Jim's suggestion here. >> "sudo apt-get -f install" removing the old packages and then adding >> them >> again (libgexiv2 and shotwell). >> -Joe. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Jim Nelson >> Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Shotwell] Update to 0.15 >> To: "D.W. Lloyd" >> Cc: shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> >> >> On Friday we fixed the packaging problem with libgexiv2 and >> Shotwell. You >> shouldn't have to purge the PPA. I would recommend sudo apt-get -f >> install >> and removing the old packages and then adding them again. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.W. Lloyd >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 13-10-05 02:07 PM, Colin Law wrote: >>> >>>> On 5 October 2013 19:33, D.W. Lloyd wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think the Shotwell 0.15 ppa is broken, so I restored from image >>>>> backup and >>>>> I'm back to 0.13. Now I'll just wait a while and hope for the >>>>> best. :-) >>>>> >>>>> For future reference, if you want to remove a ppa then install >>>>> >>>> ppa-purge and >>>> sudo ppa-purge ppa:yorba/ppa >>>> should have taken you back to where you started. >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> >>>> Good to know. Thanks Colin. >>>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Shotwell mailing list >>>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >>>> >>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> >>> Shotwell mailing list >>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >>> >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >>> >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> >> >> -- >> 347-829-5863 >> >> > > > -- > Work: alistair.frith at capula.co.uk > Personal: alistairfrith at gmail.com > Twitter: @alistairfrith > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From the9ull at silix.org Wed Oct 23 15:11:49 2013 From: the9ull at silix.org (Martino Salvetti) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:11:49 +0200 Subject: [Shotwell] scanning for new files Message-ID: Good morning, I'm using Shotwell 0.15.0; I set the preferences in order to not check if there are new files into the library at startup, but Shotwell do it in any case. Is this a bug? Thank you Martino From jim at yorba.org Wed Oct 23 18:13:36 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:06:36 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] scanning for new files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <526811d1.e818440a.21ad.ffffa646@mx.google.com> This is by design. Shotwell isn't scanning for new files, it's scanning to verify that you're existing files are still in place. It also establishes file monitoring of those files, to update the library if they're deleted or renamed. You can disable this startup scan by running Shotwell like this: $ shotwell --no-runtime-monitoring There has been a lot of requests to make this a configurable option, or to remove it entirely. That's ticketed at http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/3130 I also added this to the FAQ: http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/shotwell/wiki/ShotwellFAQ#I-disabled-startup-scan-but-Shotwell-still-scans-all-my-photos-when-I-run-it-Is-this-a-bug -- Jim On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Martino Salvetti wrote: > Good morning, > > I'm using Shotwell 0.15.0; I set the preferences in order to not > check if > there are new files into the library at startup, but Shotwell do it > in any > case. Is this a bug? > Thank you > Martino > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From alistairfrith at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 22:15:23 2013 From: alistairfrith at gmail.com (Alistair Frith) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:15:23 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] Hello and migration question In-Reply-To: References: <5265b32d.6904420a.11cb.0ef3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hmm. Just tried uninstalling and re-installing and it has not helped. I also noticed that it actually installed 0.14, not 0.15. So I probably still would not have the ratings stored in the file metadata anyway! Guess I've lost it. Unless there is a script somewhere that will drag the file path and rating out of the Shotwell DB and into a text file. Then I might have a hope of getting them into the file metadata with some sort of exif tool... Thanks for your advice and efforts though guys. Much appreciated. --- Alistair On 22 October 2013 08:53, Alistair Frith wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > Yes, I had come to the conclusion that it would probably take a lot of > work porting the current version to Windows. Want I want to do is get the > photos into a state where I can import them into something else, Picasa > most likely, or possibly Shotwell running in a Linux VM and looking at the > files on the host Windows machine, if that is possible. Or I could > dual-boot if I have to and again point Shotwell at the Windows partition. > > I have not tried importing them into anything else yet, but I think I need > the > ratings saved to the files anyway, even if I import back into Shotwell on > a VM/dual-boot, so I need the latest version on my old machine. > Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, upgrading to 0.15 has actually stopped > it working completely! I did get a suggestion to use "apt-get install -f > shotwell" but that had no effect at all. > > Any other suggestions hugely welcome! > > > On 22 October 2013 00:05, Jim Nelson wrote: > >> I'm actually surprised anyone is still using Shotwell on Windows. It's >> been a long time. >> >> No, there's been no further work on Shotwell for Windows. It's possible >> that someone could try porting it, but they will probably run into >> significant issues, in particular camera support (libgphoto2 does not work >> on Windows, at least the last time I checked). I don't know what version >> of GTK and GLib currently run on Windows either. >> >> In short, it would be a large task to convert the latest version of >> Shotwell to Windows. If you enable metadata writing with Shotwell (which >> will alter your photo files), most photo management software should be able >> to import it, although I can't recommend any on Windows. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alistair Frith >> wrote: >> >> Hi, I have been using Shotwell happily (but probably not very >> efficiently) for a few years now and built up a database of with tags and >> star ratings to categorise around 14-years worth of photos. I have just >> bought a new laptop to replace our aging desktop and, largely at the wife's >> insistence, have kept Windows-7 on it. I want to migrate all my photos to >> it. Unfortunately it does not look like the Windows port of Shotwell has >> kept up with Linux. It appears to be versioin 0.4. So when I esported from >> Linux to a portable hard-drive and then imported the photos onto the laptop >> last night, despite them having all my tags in the metadata, it did not >> pick them up (and doesn't appear to support tags at all). It also did not >> pick up my ratings but it does not look like they are saved in the metadata >> anyway so that is not a huge surprise. What are my options here? Is there >> any way of running a recent version of Shotwell under Windows-7? What other >> software can I use that will import the tags from the metadata? Is there >> any way of exporting the star-rating with the photos? Many thanks for any >> advice, --- Alistair. _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> > > > -- > Work: alistair.frith at capula.co.uk > Personal: alistairfrith at gmail.com > Twitter: @alistairfrith > -- Work: alistair.frith at capula.co.uk Personal: alistairfrith at gmail.com Twitter: @alistairfrith From thomas at xyz.pp.se Wed Oct 30 11:45:27 2013 From: thomas at xyz.pp.se (Thomas Novin) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:45:27 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? Message-ID: Hi Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for Geary)? I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but I'm no programmer.. but I do have money :) Rgds//Thomas From el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 12:50:37 2013 From: el.cameleon.1 at gmail.com (Vincent) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:50:37 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why Yorba has stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in my opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for Shotwell. 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin > Hi > > Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for > Geary)? > > I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but I'm > no programmer.. but I do have money :) > > Rgds//Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > -- Vincent (cam?l?on) From olmec at cleanweb.co.nz Wed Oct 30 21:19:34 2013 From: olmec at cleanweb.co.nz (Olmec Sinclair) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 10:19:34 +1300 Subject: [Shotwell] shotwell tagging Message-ID: <527177E6.9070501@cleanweb.co.nz> I have been using shotwell for a number of years to organise a large personal photo collection. I use the tagging feature quite heavily and it works quite well for my purposes. However, I would like to be able to tag all the photos for a particular month quickly and easily.... what I am trying to achieve is have a tag for October say that has photos from october for every year so I can see what I was involved in at a given time in previous years.... helping me to better plan and organise my garden and planting activities. I started writing my own external application to add these tags based on file meta data create dates. Unfortunately my photo create dates are invalid due to recovering from a hardware failure at some point in the past. Appreciate thoughts on this. Olmec -- *Olmec* Sinclair Web Design and Development Phone: 021 586 664 03 669 2667 Online: olmec at cleanweb.co.nz www.cleanweb.co.nz From jim at yorba.org Thu Oct 31 00:33:30 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:26:30 -0007 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5271a559.0466420a.3b4b.4261@mx.google.com> I appreciate the sentiments here, but I'm curious: what would people give for sustained continued Shotwell development? $5, $10? Or $50, $100? Or more? -- Jim On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Vincent wrote: > I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why > Yorba has > stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in > my > opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... > > I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for > Shotwell. > > > 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin > >> Hi >> >> Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did >> for >> Geary)? >> >> I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed >> but I'm >> no programmer.. but I do have money :) >> >> Rgds//Thomas >> _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> > > > -- > Vincent (cam?l?on) > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From nicolasbock at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 01:54:44 2013 From: nicolasbock at gmail.com (Nicolas Bock) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:54:44 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shotwell development stopped? On Oct 30, 2013 6:50 AM, "Vincent" wrote: > I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why Yorba has > stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in my > opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... > > I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for Shotwell. > > > 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin > > > Hi > > > > Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for > > Geary)? > > > > I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but > I'm > > no programmer.. but I do have money :) > > > > Rgds//Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > > Shotwell mailing list > > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > > > > > -- > Vincent (cam?l?on) > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From jim at yorba.org Thu Oct 31 02:46:16 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, but Yorba has had to cut back on active development of features. -- Jim > On Oct 30, 2013, at 18:54, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > Shotwell development stopped? >> On Oct 30, 2013 6:50 AM, "Vincent" wrote: >> >> I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why Yorba has >> stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in my >> opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... >> >> I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for Shotwell. >> >> >> 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for >>> Geary)? >>> >>> I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but >> I'm >>> no programmer.. but I do have money :) >>> >>> Rgds//Thomas >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Shotwell mailing list >>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >> >> >> >> -- >> Vincent (cam?l?on) >> _______________________________________________ >> Shotwell mailing list >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell From drazen.lucanin at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 09:43:35 2013 From: drazen.lucanin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Dra=BEen_Lu=E8anin?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 10:43:35 +0100 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think that an instant campaign, just as a call to help Shotwell development could easily attract ~ $20 per user, depending on the individual financial status. A larger sum could be collected if some more ambitious goal was targeted - e.g. some sort of multiple-machine syncing solution (I see these sort of issues popping up very often on the mailing list), where actions on images were to be synced when two machines running shotwell discover each other in the same LAN. I would be willing to pay the price of some commercial software such as Lightroom to see such an improvement in Shotwell. You could even think about additionally offering this as a commercial service on your servers to get recurring payments from people who don't want to deal with syncing machines locally. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: > No, but Yorba has had to cut back on active development of features. > > -- Jim > > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 18:54, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > > > Shotwell development stopped? > >> On Oct 30, 2013 6:50 AM, "Vincent" wrote: > >> > >> I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why Yorba > has > >> stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in my > >> opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... > >> > >> I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for > Shotwell. > >> > >> > >> 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin > >> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for > >>> Geary)? > >>> > >>> I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but > >> I'm > >>> no programmer.. but I do have money :) > >>> > >>> Rgds//Thomas > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Shotwell mailing list > >>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Vincent (cam?l?on) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Shotwell mailing list > >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > _______________________________________________ > > Shotwell mailing list > > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From nicolasbock at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 16:10:06 2013 From: nicolasbock at gmail.com (Nicolas Bock) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 10:10:06 -0600 Subject: [Shotwell] IndieGoGo! for shotwell? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am glad to hear it didn't stop. Shotwell is great! On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > No, but Yorba has had to cut back on active development of features. > > -- Jim > > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 18:54, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > > > Shotwell development stopped? > >> On Oct 30, 2013 6:50 AM, "Vincent" wrote: > >> > >> I completely agree with you. In fact, I had never understood why Yorba > has > >> stopped Shotwell development and launch a new mail client, which, in my > >> opinion, is quite useless for Linux users... > >> > >> I haven't give any $ for Geary but I would love to give some for > Shotwell. > >> > >> > >> 2013/10/30 Thomas Novin > >> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Why not make another IndieGoGo! campaign for Shotwell (like you did for > >>> Geary)? > >>> > >>> I would really like to have, for example, bug #1793 and #7550 fixed but > >> I'm > >>> no programmer.. but I do have money :) > >>> > >>> Rgds//Thomas > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Shotwell mailing list > >>> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Vincent (cam?l?on) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Shotwell mailing list > >> Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > > _______________________________________________ > > Shotwell mailing list > > Shotwell at lists.yorba.org > > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > From ktenney at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 16:10:25 2013 From: ktenney at gmail.com (Kent Tenney) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:10:25 -0500 Subject: [Shotwell] Shotwell stopped writing metadata to files Message-ID: I've got 'Write tags, titles .. to files' checked, but the files aren't being written to. Not sure when this started. Version is 0.15.0+trunk on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit desktop. Nothing of interest in the log file ... Suggestions? Thanks, Kent