[Shotwell] Basic video edition : rotation

Bruno Girin brunogirin at gmail.com
Sun Jan 9 02:39:13 UTC 2011


Hi all,

Before we get into a protracted argument, note that a "reasonable
feature request" is not the same as a "high priority feature request".
Reasonable just means that it is not completely outlandish. All that was
done with that feature request is that it was added to the trac database
[1] so that it is documented. What release it is implemented in (or
whether it is implemented at all) will depend on its priority compared
to the priority of other features.

It is important to document all feature requests, even the ones that
seem non-essential, as it gives a good idea of what different users want
to do with the software, which is often different from what the
developers had in mind in the first place. It also ensures that such
requests are not forgotten.

[1] http://trac.yorba.org/

Cheers,

Bruno

On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 14:24 +0100, kimaidou wrote:
> hi people,
> 
> I read carefully your text, and indeed I agree with you... Shotwell must
> focus on library management first.
> 
> Considering video rotation, I still think it would be easier to do it from
> Shotwell, because it is here where you have a look on the photos and videos
> after importing. Though it does not mean Shotwell engine must do it by
> itself. Why no allow people to add some command line option within shotwell
> (as jbrout does). For example, we see a video in shotwell which needs to be
> rotated, we right-click (or go to menu) and choose to launch one of the user
> configured command lines, e.g. "rotate video with ffmpeg".
> 
> This middle way would allow people like me to run external command on
> several photos/videos at once, and will not disturb shotwell development.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> 2011/1/8 Lars O. Grobe <grobe at gmx.net>
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> >  IS PHOTO ALBUM SOFTWARE not full featured video editing suite!
> >>
> >
> > I 100% agree that it is not useful to add all functions one may happen to
> > want to handle media into Shotwell - even though it is more then a photo
> > album software.
> >
> > In my understanding, Shotwell is some kind of a content (library)
> > management tool. Content used to be pictures, and covers video now, too.
> > Management means here that one can maintain content in a library. This
> > requires metadata handling, sort & find, im- and export.
> >
> > I would be very careful to mix this with content authoring. There are some
> > cases, such as the feature to rotate images transfered from a digital
> > camera, that are very useful even though they mess up the separation between
> > maintaining a library and editing its content. The reason is that it would
> > add a huge overhead to a small taks doing this externally.
> >
> > Rotate by 90 degree is very, very simple for an image, and people may have
> > hundreds of pictures that need to be rotated, so here it is useability that
> > backs such a feature. Rotate a video by 90 degree is something that will be
> > applied to one video (I hope noone is taking movies tilted all the time...),
> > and requires quite a lot of implementation development. It is very little
> > overhead to do this in an external application, that can be used to do all
> > preprocessing such as transcoding, adding a title, setting a resolution and
> > such BEFORE importing it into the library.
> >
> > There is still quite a lot of stuff that can be done to improve Shotwell's
> > performance as a media library management tool (e.g. file format support,
> > exchange with other libraries, ...). I would hope that development focuses
> > on these, instead on making Shotwell an application trying to do "something
> > with media".
> >
> > Cheers, Lars.
> >
> >
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