[Shotwell] Shotwell 0.11: Call for testing - TAGS!

[pt]

On 29 August 2011 16:45, Adam Dingle <adam at yorba.org> wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 03:17 PM, pt wrote:
>> It seems that Shotwell will put your tags into an existing tree *only*
>> if you have the full branch tagged.
>>
>> e.g. if you have in the tree 'people/family/mom' and you add a photo
>> tagged just 'mom' shotwell will *add* a root-level tag 'mom', instead
>> of using the already-existing one.
>
> I agree that in this case it would be better if Shotwell matched the
> existing hierarchical tag 'people/family/mom'.  I've ticketed this here:
>
> http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/4051
>
>>
>> There is a big mess with duplicate tags: it seems that they are
>> allowed on different branches, but not in the same branch.
>
> I don't understand.  Shotwell does allow duplicate tag names in different
> branches, e.g. 'friends/rusty' and 'pets/rusty'.  It of course doesn't allow
> two duplicate tag names in the same branch, e.g. two different tags both
> called 'friends/rusty'.  But how is this a mess?

Because, following the example you do below, if I have a duplicate tag
e.g. friends/dave and family/dave, when I import a photo with the tags
'friends', 'family' and 'dave' what will Shotwell do?

More specifically, I still don't know if Shotwell writes single flat
tags to the pictures metadata into 'Keywords' (as it seems from your
example below) or if it writes 'Hierarchical' tags like 'friends|dave'
and 'family|dave'. I would prefer the first one, or at least both
option.

> As I mentioned above, duplicate tag names in different branches are allowed.
>  If you don't like that, you don't have to create any duplicates like this.
>  :)

Again, see before: if the tags are flat how will Shotwell know to
which branch the tag belongs?

> Aside from the ticket 4051 I listed above (matching existing hierarchical
> names on import), what other change would you like, specifically?

I'd like to have the possibility of 'dummy tags' like below, or the
possibility of tagging only a part of the branch, not the full branch.
It is mostly a matter of organisation.

>> Please consider the option of having 'helper' or 'dummy' tags that
>> don't get automatically added to the photos, with the only purpose of
>> organising the tags tree. And believe me, with several tens of
>> thousands photos as I have, the tags tree will become quite large.
>
> I'm not sure I understand.  Today, if you create a tag 'friends/dave', then
> when you export a photo with this tag the exported photo will have both tags
> 'friends' and 'dave'.  Are you saying that you'd like to be able to mark
> 'friends' as a dummy tag which isn't written into any exported photo?

Exactly like that. This way I can have 'dummy' tags for keeping
organised my tag tree: e.g. subject (dummy) / friends / dave  and
subject (dummy) / nature (dummy) / water (dummy) / lake.

It basically depends on how many tags you use.

Thanks for the kind reply, keep up the good work.
Piergi
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