[Shotwell] Improvement suggestions

[Mattias Põldaru]

Ühel kenal päeval, T, 2009-12-08 kell 10:32, kirjutas Ingo Luetkebohle:

> Hi Mattias,
> 
> I beg to differ on some of your points ;-) 

Opinions allowed. (Just kidding, who am I to prohibit it :) )


> Of course, discussing user interface issues in terms of personal
> preferences is somewhat moot, but there we go... There is something to
> be said for consistency, but Shotwell also does some things better
> right now. See below for two comments.

Apologize me, I first forgot to title the table right. It should be
named "Mouse related actions in fullscreen or slideshow mode, proposal
draft Nº 1" B-)
Also, 

> 
> Mattias Põldaru schrieb: 
> 
> > Ühel kenal päeval, E, 2009-12-07 kell 08:45, kirjutas Adam Dingle: 
> > 
> > > Mattias,
> > > 
> > > I'm glad you like Shotwell so far!  Thanks for your many suggestions.  
> > > Here's some feedback:
> > > > 1. Quite a number of keyboards and mouses have back and forward buttons,
> > > > which are mostly useful for browsing web. These keys could be used in
> > > > Shotwell too, for navigating in 10 or 20 item history.
> > > >   
> > > It's a good idea to support the mouse back/forward buttons in some way.  
> > > We could either (a) make these buttons equivalent to the Previous Photo 
> > > and Next Photo buttons in full-window mode, or (b) use them to navigate 
> > > through the history of pages recently viewed.  With (b), the back button 
> > > might take you to the previous viewed event, for example.  Are you 
> > > suggesting (b) rather than (a)?
> > >     
> > 
> > I would prefer b (back/forward for moving in history), with some
> > additional features. It could be 
> > called "Navimouse enabled" or something :)
> > 
> > Mouse buttons usage:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Proposal for Shotwell
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > F-Spot
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Picasa
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Irfanview
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Eye
> > of
> > Gnome
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > gThumb
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > QIV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Feh
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Gwenview
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Digikam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Windows picture viewer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > LMB
> > click
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > photo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Prev
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > LMB
> > double click
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Advance 10 pictures
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Prev
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Exit
> > fullscreen
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Could there be a pattern here that edit-capable applications do not
> forward on mouse-click, while non-edit-capable apps do?



> 
> Also, left double-click is already used to toggle fullscreen in
> shotwell.

At least in 0.3.2 it toggles full-window state, not fullscreen. When you
press F11 and doubleclick there, nothing happens.


> 
> 
> > LMB
> > triple click
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Advance to next event
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > LMB
> > drag
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark
> > cropping area. Adjust from handles. Click in center to end selection, click outbounds to cancel.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark
> > cropping area, no way to confirm using mouse
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Prev
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Starts dragging the image file
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pan
> > image 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Drag is used for drag'n'drop. Shotwell is the /only/ Linux photo
> manager that works fine with drag'n'drop right now. Please don't break
> that...

I couldn't live with myself, if I end up doing so.

> 
> Alternatively, one could use click-then-move-then-click for selecting
> rectangles.

This sounds excellent for the fullwindow image mode, and for consistency
should be used in fullscreen too.

As you see, I have not thought it all the way through, but controlling
slideshow or fullscreen view remotely while presenting
pictures to your family or friends sounds like a nice thing to achieve.
So controlling remotely using only mouse and at the same time do basic
edit live with no unwanted
disturbance on the screen is far from being impossible.

Some goals
1. Basic usage easy (no tripleclicks or drags)
2. Basic usage possible with not fancy mouses (LMB and RMB only)
3. Keeping the same triggers wherever possible
4. Minimal disturbance on screen


All the best
Mattias
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