From draikes1030@hotmail.com Mon Jan 5 12:46:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav25.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5C0187A1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:05 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.170 by bay10-dav25.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:46:05 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.170] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: gnome 2.4 on redhat advanced server 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:46:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2004 17:46:05.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB16ED70:01C3D3B3] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi listers, I need to be running redhat advanced server for my work, and as a blind = user, I also need to be running gnome 2.4. Advanced server ships with = gnome 2.2. Is there a full set of gnome 2.4 RPMs or SRPMs which I can download from = somewhere which I can use? Alternatively, is there a simple method for building gnome 2.4. I have = tried garnome and jhbuild, but both have failed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office phone: (520) 579-9481=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi listers,

I need to be running redhat advanced = server for my=20 work, and as a blind user, I also need to be running gnome 2.4. = Advanced=20 server ships with gnome 2.2.

Is there a full set of gnome 2.4 RPMs or SRPMs which I can download = from=20 somewhere which I can use?

Alternatively, is there a simple method = for=20 building gnome 2.4. I have tried garnome and jhbuild, but both have=20 failed.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes

------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0-- From katzj@redhat.com Tue Jan 6 09:23:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFE5181B7 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i06ENQA13544 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:23:26 -0500 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (devserv.devel.redhat.com [172.16.58.1]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i06ENQE24931 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:23:26 -0500 Received: from [172.16.55.198] (dhcp55-198.rdu.redhat.com [172.16.55.198]) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i06ENEVU014266 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:23:14 -0500 Subject: evolution 1.5.1 test packages From: Jeremy Katz To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1073399109.2069.1.camel@edoras.local.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.5.1 (1.5.1-0.1) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:25:09 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've built test packages of evolution 1.5.1. I'm going to wait a few days before throwing them at the world of rawhide, but have gone ahead and put them up as a yum repository. They _should_ work fine on either FC1 or the current development tree but are mostly being targeted for the development tree. I'll warn that there are bugs, migration of address book stuff isn't there right now and there are probably other problems, but it does seem to basically work and it hasn't eaten my mail yet :-) To use, add something like the following to your /etc/yum.conf [evolution] name=Evolution Devel Snaps baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/ Bugs regarding packaging can be filed at https://bugzilla.redhat.com (make sure to mention that it's the 1.5 packages, exact version preferably). Functionality bugs should be filed at http://bugzilla. ximian.com Cheers, Jeremy From draikes1030@hotmail.com Tue Jan 6 15:12:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav22.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.196]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3B7185B9 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:12:38 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.171 by bay10-dav22.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:12:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.171] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: fedora rpms Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:12:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3D456.AFA79FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2004 20:12:38.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E309550:01C3D491] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3D456.AFA79FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Can anyone suggest a good fast mirror for downloading the fedora rpms? = I have been using lftp to access http://download.redhat.com, but 5 times = out of 6, it hangs because the server is busy. I am trying to get all necessary rpms for installing gnome 2.4, and = would like to have a more consistent download experience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office phone: (520) 579-9481=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3D456.AFA79FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

Can anyone suggest a good fast mirror = for=20 downloading the fedora rpms? I have been using lftp to access http://download.redhat.com, but = 5 times=20 out of 6, it hangs because the server is busy.

I am trying to get all necessary rpms = for=20 installing gnome 2.4, and would like to have a more consistent download=20 experience.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes

------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3D456.AFA79FA0-- From draikes1030@hotmail.com Tue Jan 6 17:11:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav26.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.200]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72901821D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:11:26 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.171 by bay10-dav26.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:11:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.171] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: gconf2 rpms Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:11:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01C3D467.5D570590" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2004 22:11:26.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[07594FF0:01C3D4A2] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C3D467.5D570590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, In trying to install gnome 2.4 using the fedora rpms, I have discovered = that there are no gconf2 rpms on the download sites. Any ideas why these are missing, and where they can be gotten? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office phone: (520) 579-9481=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C3D467.5D570590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

In trying to install gnome 2.4 using = the fedora=20 rpms, I have discovered that there are no gconf2 rpms on the download=20 sites.

Any ideas why these are missing, and = where they can=20 be gotten?

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes

------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C3D467.5D570590-- From zabardast_khan@yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 7 06:22:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from web25005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.41]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD20B1885C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:22:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20040107112209.46023.qmail@web25005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.219.146.25] by web25005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:22:09 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:22:09 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Farhan?= To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1252159897-1073474529=:45492" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: (no subject) Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-1252159897-1073474529=:45492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I am making a small rendering demonstration with Pango. After creating the context properly, I created an empty attribute list and an attribute iterator. I passed all this to Pango_Itemize and got the following error: Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address Glib Critical **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 (g_strsplit): assertion 'string != Null' failed. what does all this mean Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now. --0-1252159897-1073474529=:45492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello

I am making a small rendering demonstration with Pango. After creating the context properly, I created an empty attribute list and an attribute iterator. I passed all this to Pango_Itemize and got the following error:

Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address

Glib Critical **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 (g_strsplit): assertion 'string != Null' failed.

what does all this mean

Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. --0-1252159897-1073474529=:45492-- From zabardast_khan@yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 7 06:22:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.37]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21B8B1885C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:22:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20040107112243.62618.qmail@web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.219.146.25] by web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:22:43 GMT Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:22:43 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Farhan?= Subject: Problem in Compiling Pango 1.2.5 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-995483640-1073474563=:61467" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-995483640-1073474563=:61467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I am making a small rendering demonstration with Pango. After creating the context properly, I created an empty attribute list and an attribute iterator. I passed all this to Pango_Itemize and got the following error: Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address Glib Critical **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 (g_strsplit): assertion 'string != Null' failed. what does all this mean Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now. --0-995483640-1073474563=:61467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello

Pango:(null): Error opening config file: Bad address

Glib Critical **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 (g_strsplit): assertion 'string != Null' failed.

what does all this mean

Yahoo! India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. --0-995483640-1073474563=:61467-- From draikes1030@hotmail.com Wed Jan 7 18:08:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav42.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.216]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DBB18315 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:08:39 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.171 by bay10-dav42.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 23:08:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.171] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: test Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:08:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3D538.81CA27A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2004 23:08:39.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FA45500:01C3D573] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3D538.81CA27A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just testing this email address. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office phone: (520) 579-9481=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3D538.81CA27A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just testing this email = address.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3D538.81CA27A0-- From david@rainbolthampton.org Thu Jan 8 14:43:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from server.rainbolthampton.org (adsl-66-120-163-138.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.120.163.138]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C301846C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org (hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org [192.168.1.10]) by server.rainbolthampton.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i08Jggcj011496; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:42:42 -0800 Received: from david by hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aeg3G-0002RL-9v; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:42:42 -0800 Subject: Re: fedora rpms From: David Hampton To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Cc: hampton@employees.org In-Reply-To: <20040107170018.15419.56835.Mailman@moniker.gnome.org> References: <20040107170018.15419.56835.Mailman@moniker.gnome.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-cTJCKm4B53JzhPzI4aaB" Message-Id: <1073590962.5079.21.camel@hampton-pc.rainbolthampton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:42:42 -0800 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-cTJCKm4B53JzhPzI4aaB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-01-06 "Don Raikes" wrote: > Can anyone suggest a good fast mirror for downloading the fedora rpms? = =3D > I have been using lftp to access http://download.redhat.com, but 5 times = =3D > out of 6, it hangs because the server is busy. >=20 > I am trying to get all necessary rpms for installing gnome 2.4, and =3D > would like to have a more consistent download experience. http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/ works well for me. David --=-cTJCKm4B53JzhPzI4aaB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA//bKylSwHWMdNRQQRAsINAJ4hcia8HlwaKceIm6xHKGTZ+HlD2wCdHL+Z GkQWX0i4ehGmS1XnkAczQx8= =hvVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-cTJCKm4B53JzhPzI4aaB-- From draikes1030@hotmail.com Fri Jan 9 15:40:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav5.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.179]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3518695 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:40:23 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.171 by bay10-dav5.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:40:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.171] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: gnome 2.4 rpms Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:40:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D6B6.2114A960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2004 20:40:23.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE4B43C0:01C3D6F0] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D6B6.2114A960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have a couple of different versions of redhat which I am using, and I = would like to get gnome 2.4 installed on all of them. I know that fedora shipped with gnome 2.4. Is there a definitive list of RPM's from fedora which comprise gnome = 2.4? If so, I could use those rpms to port gnome 2.4 to the other = installations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Homepage: http://eagles-wing.net=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D6B6.2114A960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I have a couple of different versions = of redhat=20 which I am using, and I would like to get gnome 2.4 installed on all of=20 them.

I know that fedora shipped with gnome=20 2.4.

Is there a definitive list of RPM's = from fedora=20 which comprise gnome 2.4? If so, I could use those rpms to port gnome = 2.4 to the=20 other installations.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Homepage:	http://eagles-wing.net
AIM:	dnraikes

------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D6B6.2114A960-- From zhangweiwu@realss.com Tue Jan 13 22:35:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail27.cn4e.com (unknown [218.107.207.27]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83719180EB for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [210.34.19.252] (unknown [210.34.19.252]) by mail27.cn4e.com (WorldPost) with ESMTP id DA065606CBAD for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:51:45 +0800 (CST) Subject: cannot set mod on gnome2-private From: Zhang Weiwu To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: REAL Softservice Message-Id: <1042428565.2941.14.camel@252.xmu.edu.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:29:25 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello. I'm very soory for OT but I didn't find a list for me, perhaps you can guide me to the right place to ask this question? I'm running Turbo Linux 10 (only because this is the most Windows-lized Linux with "my computer, floppy disk, network neibor" etc all around. I love Redhat, but this computer is shared, my friends feel afraid without Windows.) My friends use KDE on it, and I use gnome. This computer also have Windows on a partition. Gnome is called by xdm (using a ~/.xsession file with only "gnome-session" command in it). It is okay to login to gnome as root. I have a fat32 partition on hda to exchange files with Windows, This time I'm silly: I mounted the fat32 partition as /home so I can pick up my files from Windows easily, thus all /home/* files belongs to root:root with 777 mode. If I login as myself (~ = /home/weiwu), gnome told me "cannot setmod 0700 on gnome2-private/" and quite. Because this computer won't have multi-logins, I think I should tell gnome try not to setmod on this fat32 folder. What should I do now? Thank you. From th.parks@verizon.net Wed Jan 14 15:00:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7839C185FA for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from verizon.net ([4.61.31.104]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040114200039.GKW18505.out010.verizon.net@verizon.net> for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:00:39 -0600 Message-ID: <40059FE7.2050607@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:00:39 -0800 From: Ted Parks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: settings daemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [4.61.31.104] at Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:00:39 -0600 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am new to the list. Please forgive me if my question is a frequent one. After loading RedHat 8.0 on a Compaq 500mhz machine, I consistently get the message that there is a problem with the Gnome Settings Daemon loading too many times. I have searched for answers, but the few I found, I was unsure how to implement. How do I fix this problem? Thanks, Ted Parks From th.parks@verizon.net Fri Jan 16 01:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F2183D3 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 01:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from verizon.net ([4.61.31.104]) by out008.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040116060402.UESX19191.out008.verizon.net@verizon.net> for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:04:02 -0600 Message-ID: <40077ED1.4080203@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0800 From: Ted Parks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: please--gnome daemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [4.61.31.104] at Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:04:01 -0600 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is my second posting, no one having helped the first time. I would apprecate any suggestions. After loading RedHat 8.0 on a Compaq 500mhz machine, I consistently get the message that there is a problem with the Gnome Settings Daemon loading too many times. I have searched for answers, but the few I found, I was unsure how to implement. Fixes? Thanks, Ted Parks From cro@terma.com Fri Jan 16 04:45:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (asgaard.lystrup.terma.com [193.163.1.112]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4A41822D for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 04:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from munin.leiden.terma.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asgaard.lystrup.terma.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id i0G9jtj12448 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:45:55 +0100 Received: from leiden.terma.com (gcenwpc3.leiden.terma.com [10.1.20.144]) by munin.leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id i0G9jpY28337 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:45:52 +0100 Received: (from cro@localhost) by leiden.terma.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id i0G9jwN19597; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:45:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:45:58 +0100 From: Chris Rouch To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: please--gnome daemon Message-Id: <20040116104558.44668ebd.crouch@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <40077ED1.4080203@verizon.net> References: <40077ED1.4080203@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0800 Ted Parks wrote: > This is my second posting, no one having helped the first time. I > would apprecate any suggestions. > > After loading RedHat 8.0 on a Compaq 500mhz machine, I consistently > get the message that there is a problem with the Gnome Settings Daemon > loading too many times. I have searched for answers, but the few I > found, I was unsure how to implement. > Did you upgrade from an earlier version of redhat? When I did this I needed[1] to remove all my gnome settings and set it up from scratch. i.e remove .gnome* .gconf* and .gtkrc*. I may have also removed the entire contents of /tmp as well. I can't remember the exact error I was getting but I know it made gnome unusable. Even if this isn't your situation, it may be worth trying to use gnome with a brand new account, so there are absolutely no customizations. Regards, Chris [1] Well maybe not 'needed' but at the time it seemed like a lot less work than trying to work out where it was failing. From sleepylight@jive-turkey.net Fri Jan 16 15:49:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A94018513 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jive-turkey.net ([68.33.98.21]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004011620493901300ar9q6e>; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:49:39 +0000 Received: from jive-turkey.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jive-turkey.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0GKncPm013430; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:49:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (sleepylight@localhost) by jive-turkey.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0GKnTHb013426; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:49:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:49:29 -0500 (EST) From: Maxwell Bottiger To: Ted Parks Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: please--gnome daemon In-Reply-To: <40077ED1.4080203@verizon.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey, I didn't write back because I didn't think I could really tell you anything useful, but hey here it goes. I ran into the exact same problem that you are having when I upgraded my RH 9 machine to Fedora Core 1. Actually, I still randomly get the error occationally. I posted a bug report to bugzilla, but as far as I can tell all that ever happened with it is lots of people posting "Yeah, that happened to me too" to it. I don't really know how to "fix" the problem, but I can tell you how to remove it. I deleted my .gnome2, .gnome2_private and probably my .gnome_dekstop directories in my home dir. The gnome settings daemon doesn't seem to give out any useful error messages other than it's loading too much. These .gnome* files are generated by GNOME the first time you log in. If they are missing GNOME is smart enough to generate the default ones in their place. Be aware though, by doing this you'll loose your current desktop setup. If you have lots of fancy panels, home made launchers etc, you are going to loose them. Its not that you can't re-make them, it's just that you'll have to spend some time doing it. Like I said, this isn't a "fix" in the true sense of the word, but it will get you back to something that works. I've had this same thing happen to me twice. Both times I had to wipe everything and start over. Beyond that, I don't know what to say. On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Ted Parks wrote: > This is my second posting, no one having helped the first time. I would > apprecate any suggestions. > > After loading RedHat 8.0 on a Compaq 500mhz machine, I consistently get > the message that there is a problem with the Gnome Settings Daemon > loading too many times. I have searched for answers, but the few I > found, I was unsure how to implement. > > Fixes? > > Thanks, > Ted Parks > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-redhat-list mailing list > gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-redhat-list > -- -Maxwell Bottiger This thing is like a wolf This thing is a wolf Thus, it is a thing to be bansished From mustarda@host04.ipowerweb.com Sat Jan 17 11:23:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from host04.ipowerweb.com (host04.ipowerweb.com [12.129.206.104]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D5E182C0 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mustarda by host04.ipowerweb.com with local (Exim 4.20) id 1AhtDy-0002bg-1E for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:23:02 -0800 Received: from 205.186.159.232 ([205.186.159.232]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user trashcan@mustardandrelish.com) by mustardandrelish.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:23:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <.205.186.159.232.1074356582.squirrel@mustardandrelish.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:23:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Desktop Switcher]Installing new window manager] From: "David Jackson" To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Reply-To: trashcan@mustardandrelish.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host04.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32674 32681] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - host04.ipowerweb.com Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I posted this "tip" to fedora-list yersterday, and the question was asked how do you add it to "Desktop Switcher"? Any solutions? TX, David ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [TIP] Installing new window manager From: "Matt H." Date: Fri, January 16, 2004 6:47 pm To: fedora-list@redhat.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:09:43 -0800, David Jackson wrote: > OK, > NOTE: This was hinted at a couple of days ago about "Fluxbox" install. > > I wanted to install IceWM. It proved even simpler than I thought: > > 0. $ su - > 1. Download lastest icewm + icewm-gnome-menu (rpm). > 2. rpm -i icewm-*.rpm > > 3. cd /etc/X11/Sessions/dm > 4 cp gnome.desktop icewm.desktop > 5. vi icewm.desksop > > [esc]: (to get command prompt > > :%s/GNOME/ICEWM/g > > 6. Go to bottom of screen and change Exec = /usr/bin/icewm > > 7. [esc]:wq; exit and logout of gnome and re-login > > At this point should see ICEWM as a "sessions" options > > > David Hi David Out of interest, I installed icewm as per your instructions and everything worked fine including adding the gdm Sessions entry. Except there is no entry within deskswitch for ICEWM. Should the installation have added an entry for it, or must I manually add it; and if so how? Thank you -- Matt -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list From clanphaedirean@hotmail.com Thu Jan 22 00:38:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (law10-f95.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.95]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6566218451 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:38:53 -0800 Received: from 209.206.232.102 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:38:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.206.232.102] X-Originating-Email: [clanphaedirean@hotmail.com] X-Sender: clanphaedirean@hotmail.com From: "Jimmy Pattison" To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Red Hat 9 install Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:38:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2004 05:38:53.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[0571EBC0:01C3E0AA] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just now installed Red Hat 9 over Red Hat 8 Pro, What a mess! It loaded up right up to the username after the 3rd disk told me thank you for a sucessful installation. Then when i put in the username, I got this message box,{"Application "gnome-settings-daemon" (process 1145) has crashed due to a fatal error. (segmentation fault) It included a link saying " Please visit the Gnome Application Crash page for more information," which asked for my email address. Instead of allowing me to insert my email address or my name. So two gnome thingys wouldn't work for me. Here I sit so broken hearted, tried to use my Red Hat, which just barely started..... My Red Hat won't let me in and it's all the fault of my Gnome, which I prefer to KDE. Anyone got any good ideas for this Linux newbie. I'm not a tekkie, so if you have advice, please try to put it in layman's language. Thanks, Jim _________________________________________________________________ Scope out the new MSN Plus Internet Software � optimizes dial-up to the max! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/plus&ST=1 From jeff.bernhard@ccur.com Thu Jan 22 10:26:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from exchange.ccur.com (mail.ccur.com [208.248.32.212]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761DD18DAB for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchange.ccur.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Bernhard, Jeff" To: "Gnome-Redhat (E-mail)" Subject: Help? Desktop launchers Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:25:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Greetings. I'd like to add to the default set of desktop launchers on our systems, and am new to gnome and how these are established for new users on their first login. I do not by choice want to have to add these additional desktop launchers downstream, after a user's gnome environment has already been first established (although knowing how this would be done -- without that user's intervention -- would be useful for pre-existing users, so let's include this as well). Any hints, observations and suggestions appreciated! Questions: How during a user's first session is the gnome environment set up -- what starts the ball rolling? Who creates the various directories and files? >From where is the default set of desktop launchers defined? Is there a system-wide template for these somewhere? Last, in what rpms are these various things to be found (if source changes would be required)? Many thanks, this is going to seem a bit foreign to me for a while. Jeff Bernhard Jeff.Bernhard@ccur.com From sleepylight@jive-turkey.net Thu Jan 22 11:36:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009C61824C for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from jive-turkey.net ([68.33.98.21]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004012216364201500ki3vve>; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:36:42 +0000 Received: from jive-turkey.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jive-turkey.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0MGafPm032236; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:36:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (sleepylight@localhost) by jive-turkey.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0MGaegl032232; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:36:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: Maxwell Bottiger To: "Bernhard, Jeff" Cc: "Gnome-Redhat (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Help? Desktop launchers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This doesn't seem like it's unreasonably hard. Let me make a sugestion, but I'll preface it by saying I haven't acutally done this myself. This is really just a sugestion to get you on the righ track. If we start by creating a desktop launcher for an example we can see that it's pretty much a simple text file. All desktop launchers (under gnome 2) are created in ~/Desktop. A quick look at my desktop shows: [sleepylight@host65-239 ~/Desktop]$ ls hammer-003697262e.desktop* opt@ Start Here test.desktop* tmp@ Trash/ and if we look at the test launcher I just made it looks like: [sleepylight@host65-239 ~/Desktop]$ cat test.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=1.0 Type=Application Exec=/usr/local/foo TryExec= Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/default-applications-capplet.png X-GNOME-DocPath= Terminal=false Name[en_US]=test GenericName[en_US]=test launcher Comment[en_US]=an example launcher Not that bad eh? You don't even have to write all that stuff yourself, it's generated when you build the launcher. So lets say you need 5 launchers to add to desktops. Just start by making them on your own desktop, then copy them to some easily accessable place (/tmp or /usr/local/share or something like that). Now, with those files in place it's a pretty easy task for a shell script or maybe a perl script to put them in place. Write a script that does the following things: 1 - Create a Desktop directory in the new user's home 2 - Copy the launchers from their stored location to the Desktop 3 - chmod the launchers to the right permissions 4 - chown -R username.group the whole Desktop directory. As far as I know gnome will not overwrite the desktop the first time it's run. It will do that for any missing files though. If you really want to be clever, you could add a call to your script in the user's .login file. The script could look to see that all the launchers are there and (re)copy any that aren't in the right place. This would also handle the case where someone accidently erases a launcher. Now, there may be an easier way to do this, and there may be some default template menu I don't know about, but if someone were to ask me how I would do this, this is the way I'd go. Best of luck. -- -Maxwell Bottiger This thing is like a wolf This thing is a wolf Thus, it is a thing to be bansished From igor@galaxy.nsc.com Thu Jan 29 17:20:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from SC2k-NTRDCSS2.nsc.com (mail4.nsc.com [12.151.32.19]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A11818B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139.187.179.130 by SC2k-NTRDCSS2.nsc.com with ESMTP (-Hi- ); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:50:18 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: AAED4307-30B7-4EE7-BF72-E282233FDECA Received: from nsc.nsc.com by scmh1.nsc.com with ESMTP for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:50:14 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (galaxy.nsc.com [10.188.197.1]) by nsc.nsc.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0TLoEZ9004826 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:50:14 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (propane.nsc.com [10.188.27.4]) by galaxy.nsc.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0TLoES27740 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:50:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <40198016.7050109@galaxy.nsc.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:50:14 -0800 From: Igor_ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6C075F9F0X41300315-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Firstly, I would like to explain a little bit of the background related to my problem. In my company we are trying to replace SUN workstations with cheaper REDHAT LINUX workstation. Our pilot run went through relatively smoothly. We had few minor issues to solve. One issue is still open and it became a major problem for the deployment of the linux desktops/workstation. Our main usage of the linux workstation is to design chips, In order to do that, we are using a wide variety of the CAD tools. One of the tools is CADENCE tool. Because of some historical reasons, CADENCE tools need 8-bit pseudo color environment in order to run. So, this was the first challenge to solve. The solution is relatively simple. We had to replace original video card with the video card which supports "hardware overlay" ( whatever that means). MATROX G550 is such a card. So far so good. Now we can run our CADENCE tools with almost no glitch. I said "almost"... so... this is the main reason for this letter. PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: The main "mixed signal" CADENCE tool DOES NOT run yet natively on LINUX. We have to use SUN Solaris server to run it and we display the result on LINUX box using, of course, networking capabilities of the X11 server (XFree86 on linux box). The only problem we have with this approach is "blackening" of any CADENCE window when we click on gnome panel. Clicking on gnome panel means, for example, selecting another desktop and then going back to the original one. Whenever we do that, all CADENCE windows go black. The only way to make black windows normal is to move a mouse between two black CADENCE windows. This problem is there ONLY with GNOME desktop. KDE desktop works fine. Unfortunately, KDE desktop has OTHER issues with CADENCE. We have decided to standardize on GNOME, because the newer SUN Solaris workstation support GNOME as well. It seems to us that gnome panel does not send to the X11 server request for "refresh" whenever user goes from the desktop to panel and back. Is there a solution for this ? Or, perhaps, workaround ? Is there a rpm package with updated gnome ? TECHNICAL INFO: workstation: DELL Precision 360 with MATROX G550 video card OS: REDHAT 8.0 desktop: GNOME gnome-desktop-2.0.6-4 (standard from the stock RH8) No, we can not migrate to RH9 or Fedora or RH enterprise workstation. The main reason for this is availability of the CAD tools. Any help is MORE than very very appreciated Igor P.S: the re is another solution. We could use MS WINDOWS XP + hummingbird EXCEED Believe me, WE DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT... WE WOULD LIKE to stay on LINUX From ted@cypress.com Thu Jan 29 17:57:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from ns1.cypress.com (ns1.cypress.com [157.95.67.4]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5C91850D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from corpmail.cypress.com (corpmail [157.95.1.2]) by ns1.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0TMo9MZ029561; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mississippi.Miss.Cypress.Com (Mississippi.Miss.Cypress.Com [192.84.61.1]) by corpmail.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0TMsoXo002245; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypress.com (nd [192.84.61.75]) by Mississippi.Miss.Cypress.Com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0TMvdm25995; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:57:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <40198FE2.4070006@cypress.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:57:38 -0600 From: Thomas Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Cc: Igor_ Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools References: <40198016.7050109@galaxy.nsc.com> In-Reply-To: <40198016.7050109@galaxy.nsc.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.82.4.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Igor_ wrote: | In my company we are trying to replace SUN workstations with cheaper | REDHAT LINUX workstation. Doing the same here :) | CADENCE tools need 8-bit pseudo color environment in order to run. Which release of Cadence's tools? Opus 5 works much better with GNOME. | original video card with the video card which supports "hardware | overlay" ( whatever that means). Hardware overlay give 2 X visuals in hardware, in this case 8bit psudeocolor + 24bit truecolor. Xfree86 doesn't support a software method to get both simultaniously. FWIW, we use PGX32 cards on or Ultra10/20 machines for the same reason, the builtin ATI R128 chips don't do hardware overlays either. | PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: | to use SUN Solaris server to run it and we display the result on LINUX The CAD guys here say use VNC. start the VNCserver on the SUN in 8bit pseudocolor, and use CDE. Then run VNCviewer on the linux box. Using _ANYTHING_ other than what Cadence recommends is likely to cause problems. | Clicking on gnome panel means, for example, selecting another desktop | and then going back to the original one. | This problem is there ONLY with GNOME desktop. KDE desktop works fine. | Unfortunately, KDE desktop | has OTHER issues with CADENCE. We have decided to standardize on GNOME, | because the newer | SUN Solaris workstation support GNOME as well. Again, Cadence says use CDE and MWM. Anthing else is likely to cause trouble. We've had trouble using Sun's GNOME2.0 release on Sparcs with Cadence tools. | No, we can not migrate to RH9 or Fedora or RH enterprise workstation. | The main reason for this | is availability of the CAD tools. Same here. Stuck with RHL-7.3 untill the vedors catch up. -Thomas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (SunOS) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAGY/h+mwggWqA1pQRAjkPAJwL0qLlpdgSvUa0HUy/rWg5IR8d8wCgg/sD ileVmIkb0fRmhcHfDmLuYoM= =9on9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From igor@galaxy.nsc.com Thu Jan 29 20:27:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from sc2k-ntrdcss3.nsc.com (mail2.nsc.com [12.151.32.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C1418363 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139.187.179.130 by SC2k-NTRDCSS2.nsc.com with ESMTP (-Hi- ); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:39:39 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: AAED4307-30B7-4EE7-BF72-E282233FDECA Received: from nsc.nsc.com by scmh1.nsc.com with ESMTP for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:39:38 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (galaxy.nsc.com [10.188.197.1]) by nsc.nsc.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0U0dcZ9006398 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:39:38 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (propane.nsc.com [10.188.27.4]) by galaxy.nsc.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0U0dcS10127 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:39:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4019A7C9.4060601@galaxy.nsc.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:39:37 -0800 From: Igor_ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6C0778340X41322549-03-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: "Thomas Dodd" wrote: Igor_ wrote: | In my company we are trying to replace SUN workstations with cheaper | REDHAT LINUX workstation. Doing the same here :) GREAT :-) | CADENCE tools need 8-bit pseudo color environment in order to run. Which release of Cadence's tools? Opus 5 works much better with GNOME. we are migrating to opus 5... but we will still run for the next 1-2 years old Cadence... because of legacy products | PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: | to use SUN Solaris server to run it and we display the result on LINUX The CAD guys here say use VNC. start the VNCserver on the SUN in 8bit pseudocolor, and use CDE. Then run VNCviewer on the linux box. this is TOO complicated for the "certain" people within design comunity :-( For them, if it does not run PERFECT (whatever that means) it is broken !! so... it is not a solution Using _ANYTHING_ other than what Cadence recommends is likely to cause problems. hmmm ... yes.. but I think there must be a solution for this problem (newer XFree86, new video driver, new GNOME desktop, another window manager or new "something else" ) | Clicking on gnome panel means, for example, selecting another desktop | and then going back to the original one. | This problem is there ONLY with GNOME desktop. KDE desktop works fine. | Unfortunately, KDE desktop | has OTHER issues with CADENCE. We have decided to standardize on GNOME, | because the newer | SUN Solaris workstation support GNOME as well. Again, Cadence says use CDE and MWM. Anthing else is likely to cause trouble. We've had trouble using Sun's GNOME2.0 release on Sparcs with Cadence tools. hmmm this is interesting info ... thanks !! Thanks for the reply Igor From lvirden@cas.org Fri Jan 30 07:14:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.cas.org (srv01s4.cas.org [134.243.50.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0068B1869C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lwv26awu.cas.org (lwv26awu [134.243.40.138]) by mailhost.cas.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/CAS_MAIL_HUB-4.1) with ESMTP id i0UCEXfk029479 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:14:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lvirden@cas.org) Received: (from lwv26@localhost) by lwv26awu.cas.org (8.11.7+Sun/m4_8.11.6/CAS_CLIENT-1.18) id i0UCEXm05800; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:14:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:14:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Larry W. Virden" Message-Id: <20040130071433.AAB5792@cas.org> Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:57:38 -0600 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: Thomas Dodd > The CAD guys here say use VNC. start the VNCserver on the SUN in 8bit > pseudocolor, and use CDE. Then run VNCviewer on the linux box. Just curious - are these applications X? Why use the VNCserver instead of just using the X server? -- Tcl - The glue of a new generation. Larry W. Virden Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -><- From otaylor@redhat.com Fri Jan 30 14:40:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [66.187.233.31]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959C4181E7 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0UJeSb29833; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:40:28 -0500 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (lacrosse.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.154]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0UJeSa15148; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:40:28 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (devserv.devel.redhat.com [172.16.58.1]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0UJeSY25525; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:40:28 -0500 Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools From: Owen Taylor To: Igor_ Cc: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <40198016.7050109@galaxy.nsc.com> References: <40198016.7050109@galaxy.nsc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075491516.20679.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:38:37 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 16:50, Igor_ wrote: > PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: > The main "mixed signal" CADENCE tool DOES NOT run yet natively on LINUX. > We have > to use SUN Solaris server to run it and we display the result on LINUX > box using, of course, > networking capabilities of the X11 server (XFree86 on linux box). The > only problem we have with > this approach is "blackening" of any CADENCE window when we click on > gnome panel. > > Clicking on gnome panel means, for example, selecting another desktop > and then going back to the original one. > > Whenever we do that, all CADENCE windows go black. The only way to make > black windows normal is to > move a mouse between two black CADENCE windows. Unfortunately, this probably simply falls into the category of "application bug", and the only real way to get it fixed is for the vendor to fix it. (or the vendor to figure out some workaround.) As long as the application is properly responding to X window system events, there's nothing that GNOME could do to cause this; the fact that it works with KDE is likely pure coincidence. Regards, Owen From lvirden@cas.org Fri Jan 30 14:46:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mailhost.cas.org (srv01s4.cas.org [134.243.50.9]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644AC188E1 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lwv26awu.cas.org (lwv26awu [134.243.40.138]) by mailhost.cas.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/CAS_MAIL_HUB-4.1) with ESMTP id i0UJknfk013978 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:46:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lvirden@cas.org) Received: (from lwv26@localhost) by lwv26awu.cas.org (8.11.7+Sun/m4_8.11.6/CAS_CLIENT-1.18) id i0UJknS23522; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:46:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:46:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Larry W. Virden" Message-Id: <20040130144649.AAB23488@cas.org> Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 16:50, Igor_ wrote: > PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: > The > only problem we have with > this approach is "blackening" of any CADENCE window when we click on > gnome panel. Hmm - I wonder if what you are describing is different from what I tend to call "color map flashing" - the behavior that occurs on machines with 8 bit color video cards when X has to assign to the application its own color map, with different colors than those used in the general shared color map. The application can, quite often, appear to be 'darkening'. The reality in the situation to which I refer is that as you focus between differing apps, the entire screen is displayed with different color map palettes. I began seeing an increase in this sort of thing as netscape began using more and more colors. When we went to CDE, it became really bad - StarOffice drove us past bearabiliy, but GNOME really forced us into upgrading to more robust video cards. -- Tcl - The glue of a new generation. Larry W. Virden Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -><- From igor@galaxy.nsc.com Fri Jan 30 15:09:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from sc2k-ntrdcss3.nsc.com (mail2.nsc.com [12.151.32.16]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EF21904B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139.187.179.130 by SC2k-NTRDCSS2.nsc.com with ESMTP (-Hi- ); Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:32:21 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: AAED4307-30B7-4EE7-BF72-E282233FDECA Received: from nsc.nsc.com by scmh1.nsc.com with ESMTP for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:32:20 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (galaxy.nsc.com [10.188.197.1]) by nsc.nsc.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0UJWKZ9013371 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:32:20 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (propane.nsc.com [10.188.27.4]) by galaxy.nsc.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0UJWKS29581 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <401AB144.4060703@galaxy.nsc.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:32:20 -0800 From: Igor_ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6C046F3C0X41454540-26-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: "Maxwell Bottiger" wrote: >Hi, > I don't really hav a solution for your problem, ... > question. Are you using the gnome pager to switch deskt... > > using a key combo? It might not make the least amount of difference in > > your case, but I've had problems with the gnome pager not aligning my > > windows in the right spot if I use it, but I get good results if I use > > Alt-F1 (or 2, or 3). I'm using the sawfish window manager which > should be > >i ncluded in RH8, although I think metacity is used by default. > > I'm not a gnome developer or anyting, but it is something to > > look at. Good hint... It did help... Unfortunately, some of the users are 100% "hunt and point and click" users therefore "keyboard" solution was not appropriate Thanks Igor From igor@galaxy.nsc.com Fri Jan 30 17:02:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from sc2k-ntrdcss1.nsc.com (mail1.nsc.com [12.151.32.15]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA12183C3 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from 139.187.179.130 by SC2k-NTRDCSS2.nsc.com with ESMTP (-Hi- ); Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:26:30 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: AAED4307-30B7-4EE7-BF72-E282233FDECA Received: from nsc.nsc.com by scmh1.nsc.com with ESMTP for gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:26:29 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (galaxy.nsc.com [10.188.197.1]) by nsc.nsc.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0ULQTZ9014133 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:26:29 -0800 Received: from galaxy.nsc.com (propane.nsc.com [10.188.27.4]) by galaxy.nsc.com (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0ULQTS05977 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <401ACC05.6020205@galaxy.nsc.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:26:29 -0800 From: Igor_ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: gnome window goes black for no reason with CADENCE tools MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 6C04138C0X41468648-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: /"Larry W. Virden" wrote: >> PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: >> The >> only problem we have with >> this approach is "blackening" of any CADENCE window when we click on >> gnome panel. >Hmm - I wonder if what you are describing is different from what I tend >to call "color map flashing" - the behavior that occurs on machines >with 8 bit color video cards when X has to assign to the application its >own color map, with different colors than those used in the general >shared color map. NO it is not "color map flashing" issue. That issue was solved by using MATROX G550 video card which supports, so called, hardware overlays. It supports 8-bit color map in the same time as it supports 24-bit color map. Please see the original post. It is GNOME PANEL problem. If I switch between CADENCE windows with CTRL+TAB combo, "blackening" is not there or if I use KDE desktop, "blackening" is not there It seems to me that GNOME panel does not send appropriate X11 command to the X11 server to refresh the complete desktop There are two workarounds: A) our CADENCE users should use CTRL+TAB combo (they do not like to do that, because most of them are "hunt,point,click" users B) our CADENCE users need to have at least 2 CADENCE windows permanently open and move mouse (without clicking) between them. Such an action (obviously) sends refresh request to the X11 server and CADENCE windows gets repainted. Even this solution is very annoying. As I said, KDE does not have problems with "blackening" CADENCE windows. Unfortunately, It has other issues. We decided to standardize on GNOME.... but.... see above Regards Igor / From rfoerste@tsg-az.com Tue Jan 6 12:15:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.tsg-az.com (216-19-199-195.getnet.net [216.19.199.195]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB8E1819C for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tsg-az.com ([192.168.10.58]) by mail.tsg-az.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i06HFdwu015644 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:15:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3FFAED3B.8070604@tsg-az.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:15:39 -0700 From: Danny Foerster Reply-To: danny@tsg-az.com Organization: TSG User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Subject: Gnome Login not displaying Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-104.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have a system that has been running for several months. On Wednesday of last week the the system crashed due to a heat issue that caused some filesystem corruption. The system is booting fine now after the fsck but the Gnome console screen gives a message of: "Failed to start the display server several times in a short time period; disabling display :0". Xdm sessions to the box connect and I get an hourglass then the session disconnects. I checked all the logs for gdm and XFree86 and there is no errors present in the files. Has anyone seen this error before and know how to resolve it. I was going to remove the X environment and reinstall it but redhat has everything so tied together with the RPM packages it is not easily done. Thanks Danny Foerster TSG (The Selah Group) Phn: 480 464-0328 Fax: 480 464-2598 danny@tsg-az.com From mmankad@iqara.net Sun Jan 18 01:26:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from sumail02.iqara.net (unknown [203.187.192.20]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB68718180 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from KMM ([127.0.0.1]) by sumail02.iqara.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id HRO9FP00.91G for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:46:37 +0530 Message-ID: <000801c3dd8c$0536c020$9eeffea9@KMM> From: "Mehul" To: Subject: How do I install GNOME 2.4? Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:56:34 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DDBA.1E80F810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DDBA.1E80F810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I Have downloaded GNOME 2.4 Tarballs and I am running RedHat Linux 7.3. = I Would like to upgrade my gnome desktop. How should I do so? I tried = GARNOME but it tries to download the Tarballs again from the ftp site = even if I have changed the setting in its conf. file. -GCB ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DDBA.1E80F810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I Have downloaded GNOME 2.4 Tarballs = and I am=20 running RedHat Linux 7.3. I Would like to upgrade my gnome = desktop. How=20 should I do so? I tried GARNOME but it tries to download the Tarballs = again from=20 the ftp site even if I have changed the setting in its conf.=20 file.

=20 = =20 = =20 -GCB

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3DDBA.1E80F810-- From kuoman@mail.vzavenue.net Fri Jan 30 01:59:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B614A18396 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.vzavenue.net (mail.vzavenue.net [66.171.40.86]) by smtp.vzavenue.net (MOS 3.4.3-CR) with ESMTP id ADO56778; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.vzavenue.net (localhost.vzavenue.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vzavenue.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id AXU41462; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:57:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401300657.AXU41462@mail.vzavenue.net> Received: from 66.171.67.147 by mail.vzavenue.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:57:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:57:55 -0500 From: kuoman@vzavenue.net Subject: Enable Auto Logout for idle user To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/50, host=smtp.vzavenue.net Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Running Redhat 9.0. Is there a way to logout idle user from windows? From draikes1030@hotmail.com Mon Jan 5 12:46:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org Received: from hotmail.com (bay10-dav25.bay10.hotmail.com [64.4.37.199]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5C0187A1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:46:05 -0800 Received: from 148.87.1.170 by bay10-dav25.bay10.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:46:05 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [148.87.1.170] X-Originating-Email: [draikes1030@hotmail.com] X-Sender: draikes1030@hotmail.com From: "Don Raikes" To: "gnome redhat list" Subject: gnome 2.4 on redhat advanced server 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:46:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2004 17:46:05.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB16ED70:01C3D3B3] Sender: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: gnome-redhat-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Loop: gnome-redhat-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of official Red Hat Linux GNOME List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi listers, I need to be running redhat advanced server for my work, and as a blind = user, I also need to be running gnome 2.4. Advanced server ships with = gnome 2.2. Is there a full set of gnome 2.4 RPMs or SRPMs which I can download from = somewhere which I can use? Alternatively, is there a simple method for building gnome 2.4. I have = tried garnome and jhbuild, but both have failed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Thanks, Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist Home office phone: (520) 579-9481=20 AIM: dnraikes=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C3D379.20440CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi listers,

I need to be running redhat advanced = server for my=20 work, and as a blind user, I also need to be running gnome 2.4. = Advanced=20 server ships with gnome 2.2.

Is there a full set of gnome 2.4 RPMs or SRPMs which I can download = from=20 somewhere which I can use?

Alternatively, is there a simple method = for=20 building gnome 2.4. I have tried garnome and jhbuild, but both have=20 failed.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes

Hi all,

I am trying to get all necessary rpms = for=20 installing gnome 2.4, and would like to have a more consistent download=20 experience.

Thanks,
Don Raikes, Accessibility Specialist

Home office phone:	(520) 579-9481
AIM:	dnraikes