[gpm] Re: offtopic: sleep nomenclature
- From: Peter Jones <pjones redhat com>
- To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham cyclades com>
- Cc: pm-utils <pm-utils lists freedesktop org>, GnomePowerManager List <gnome-power-manager-list gnome org>, hal lists freedesktop org, richard hughsie com
- Subject: [gpm] Re: offtopic: sleep nomenclature
- Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 01:24:49 -0400
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 14:05 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> On Friday 05 May 2006 07:43, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > My views on the Suspend / Sleep / Hibernate / Standby / SuspendToX
> > naming problems: http://live.gnome.org/GnomePowerManager/SleepNames
> >
> > Comments appreciated, but I don't want this to turn into a cross-list
> > flame-fest. :-)
>
> Ok. Silly comments first...
>
> "Awww! :) No comment on silly names like "swsusp"?"
>
> "Spose I'd better rename my patch to hibernate2 then."
>
> And then more seriously, I like the idea of choosing names that the user will
> understand, and appreciate the suspend-to-disk point, particularly when we're
> working towards suspending to other things (flash, usb, network).
>
> The second set doesn't seem right. The opposite of hibernate is wake (the bear
> doesn't get frozen),
Wake is the opposite of sleep, not hibernate. The bear may not
precisely freeze (though the cold-blooded animals do), but it doesn't
wake until the rest of the local ecosystem is literally thawing.
Then again, "thaw" also applies to e.g. a bears fur, and in many other
scenarios. If you google for such uses, you'll find statements like
"Adults emerge in September and hibernate until the spring thaw", which
conveys a reasonable analogy to this scenario. Reptiles are described
by biologists as "freezing" and "thawing", but I think "freeze" is
overused at enough places that we should remain weary of its
connotations, and it's fairly similar, conceptually, to hibernation.
> and the oppostite of thaw is freeze. Which is probably
> why we use the later for what we do to processes when hibernating the system.
... and that's really close enough for the already rather stretched
analogy.
--
Peter
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