From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 10:21:35 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:21:35 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release Message-ID: Version 0.1.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-06 * New Features: - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) Download from http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/releases Richard. From lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org Tue Apr 6 11:50:49 2010 From: lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Florian_H=F6ch?=) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:49 +0200 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Am 06.04.2010 12:21, schrieb Richard Hughes: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) Hi, just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Regards -- Florian H?ch http://hoech.net From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:17:34 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:34 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> References: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 12:50, Florian H?ch wrote: > just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based > profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by > FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so > the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). I didn't know that, thanks. I'll drop that from the next release. > (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been > superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if > anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Yes, I couldn't find any freely created profiles for those. Richard. From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:14:27 2010 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0400 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Richard Hughes wrote: > Version 0.1.1 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Released: 2010-04-06 > > * New Features: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard > Hughes) > - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Alexandre From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:51:10 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:51:10 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 16:14, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Sure, and expect it to get bigger still. I've split off shared-color-profiles-extra as a subpackage (with all the CMYK profiles) for Fedora, and GCM will show a GtkInfoBar if compiled with PackageKit support to install the subpackage at runtime. This keeps the base package small enough for install media and keeps me out of trouble with my distro. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 10:23:23 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:23:23 +0200 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> Do you guys think adding an interface to do spotreads (i.e. use your >> ColorMunki to tell me what the sRGB value of a color swatch) would be >> for design work? I'm not sure how such a thing would "slot" into the >> gcm GUI, although I think it might be a useful feature? Thoughts? > > That would be awesome... > > Maybe this could be a seperate tool, available in the Applications - > Graphics menu? I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 11:52:22 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:52:22 +0200 Subject: Simple-Scan Message-ID: Richard, I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 Great! We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... XSANE used to scare the living daylights out of normal people. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:38:01 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:38:01 +0100 Subject: Simple-Scan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 12:52, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: > ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 > We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... Sure, now we just need to patch simple-scan so we can get the calibration image when we calibrate the scanner. It would certainly be a better user interaction experience to prompt the user to scan with the correct settings, rather than just demanding a .tiff file of the right settings. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:41:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:41:02 +0100 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 11:23, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Yup, it's not wired up to anything yet. I've been taking down a chimney for the last 4 days, and being 30ft in the air and filthy dirty I tend to get very little programming done. :) I'll probably be done on Tuesday, and then I'll clear my "work" email and continue with the new app after that. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 09:58:38 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:58:38 +0100 Subject: GNOME Color Manager 2.30.1 Message-ID: gnome-color-manager is a session program that makes it easy to manage, install and generate color profiles in the GNOME desktop. Version 2.30.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-26 * Translations - Updated Italian translation (Francesco Groccia) - Updated Polish translation (Piotr Dr?g) * Bugfix: - Do not explode when viewing the details of a CMYK profile (Richard Hughes) - Make gcm-fix-profile open the profile from memory, as then we can catch common access permission errors (Richard Hughes) Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:38:51 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:38:51 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker Message-ID: Hi, I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of the spectrophotometer... I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui from the normal install? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 16:46:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:46:02 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of > the spectrophotometer... Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. > I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while > gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui > from the normal install? Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:51:43 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:51:43 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: >> I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of >> the spectrophotometer... > > Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. Ah ok... Without self-calibration gcm-picker is pretty much unusable :) >> I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while >> gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui >> from the normal install? > > Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I > might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before > next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pedro at pedrocr.net Tue Apr 27 07:09:05 2010 From: pedro at pedrocr.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_C=C3=B4rte=2DReal?=) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:09:05 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports Message-ID: Hi, I was just looking at the state of ubuntu g-c-m packages and saw that it is now in the universe archive. Nice. I also had a look at the bug reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. Cheers, Pedro From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 09:49:23 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:49:23 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 08:09, Pedro C?rte-Real wrote: > I also had a look at the bug > reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Cool, thanks for doing that. > Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 > (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) Looks like an avahi bug to me. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 > (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) > Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. Looks like a dupe of 562961. > gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description > it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 Looks like a bug in libusb; Fedora has had similar reports. If you can reproduce this I would be interested if you could try libusb from git master. > ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Sure, the non-free driver doesn't support XRandR 1.3, only 1.2 and so hits the screen fallback. I'm not sure there's a lot we can do to fix this until NVidia update the driver, or users start using nouveau. > Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I > can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install > dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. I'm not sure they are upstream issues, at least, not with g-c-m. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 12:58:53 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:51, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 21:57:06 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:57:06 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: > New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features > missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my preferred option right now. Richard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png Type: image/png Size: 20491 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 06:38:31 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:31 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: >> New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features >> missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. > > Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI > with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions > and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a > GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like > GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my > preferred option right now. Well, maybe the current GUI could be a hidden feature of GCM? As in we install the gcm-picker binary, but we do not provide a .desktop file, to make it show up in the GNOME menu... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 09:08:08 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:08:08 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings Message-ID: I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which might be difficult for some people. Are the latter two available in the Ubuntu and Suse development repositories yet? If not, I'll push a branch and we can merge it in a couple of weeks / months. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 10:20:12 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. > Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which > might be difficult for some people. Well this is the development-vs-stable debacle... First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user feedback you'll get... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 10:48:59 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:48:59 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28 April 2010 11:20, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... As far as I know, gnome-color-manager isn't going to be included in el6. > Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git > master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user > feedback you'll get... Sure. At the moment it seems a little _too_ bleeding edge, although I'm going to have to convert to GSettings at some point for the GNOME 3 tasks. I'm also pretty sure that pushing git master out on distros is probably a bad idea, and distros should stick to gnome-2-28. I guess the same argument is happening right now on other mailing lists. At some point we have to start testing GSettings rather than testing the other new shiny stuff. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 10:21:35 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:21:35 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release Message-ID: Version 0.1.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-06 * New Features: - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) Download from http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/releases Richard. From lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org Tue Apr 6 11:50:49 2010 From: lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Florian_H=F6ch?=) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:49 +0200 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Am 06.04.2010 12:21, schrieb Richard Hughes: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) Hi, just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Regards -- Florian H?ch http://hoech.net From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:17:34 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:34 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> References: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 12:50, Florian H?ch wrote: > just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based > profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by > FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so > the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). I didn't know that, thanks. I'll drop that from the next release. > (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been > superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if > anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Yes, I couldn't find any freely created profiles for those. Richard. From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:14:27 2010 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0400 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Richard Hughes wrote: > Version 0.1.1 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Released: 2010-04-06 > > * New Features: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard > Hughes) > - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Alexandre From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:51:10 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:51:10 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 16:14, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Sure, and expect it to get bigger still. I've split off shared-color-profiles-extra as a subpackage (with all the CMYK profiles) for Fedora, and GCM will show a GtkInfoBar if compiled with PackageKit support to install the subpackage at runtime. This keeps the base package small enough for install media and keeps me out of trouble with my distro. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 10:23:23 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:23:23 +0200 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> Do you guys think adding an interface to do spotreads (i.e. use your >> ColorMunki to tell me what the sRGB value of a color swatch) would be >> for design work? I'm not sure how such a thing would "slot" into the >> gcm GUI, although I think it might be a useful feature? Thoughts? > > That would be awesome... > > Maybe this could be a seperate tool, available in the Applications - > Graphics menu? I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 11:52:22 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:52:22 +0200 Subject: Simple-Scan Message-ID: Richard, I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 Great! We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... XSANE used to scare the living daylights out of normal people. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:38:01 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:38:01 +0100 Subject: Simple-Scan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 12:52, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: > ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 > We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... Sure, now we just need to patch simple-scan so we can get the calibration image when we calibrate the scanner. It would certainly be a better user interaction experience to prompt the user to scan with the correct settings, rather than just demanding a .tiff file of the right settings. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:41:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:41:02 +0100 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 11:23, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Yup, it's not wired up to anything yet. I've been taking down a chimney for the last 4 days, and being 30ft in the air and filthy dirty I tend to get very little programming done. :) I'll probably be done on Tuesday, and then I'll clear my "work" email and continue with the new app after that. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 09:58:38 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:58:38 +0100 Subject: GNOME Color Manager 2.30.1 Message-ID: gnome-color-manager is a session program that makes it easy to manage, install and generate color profiles in the GNOME desktop. Version 2.30.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-26 * Translations - Updated Italian translation (Francesco Groccia) - Updated Polish translation (Piotr Dr?g) * Bugfix: - Do not explode when viewing the details of a CMYK profile (Richard Hughes) - Make gcm-fix-profile open the profile from memory, as then we can catch common access permission errors (Richard Hughes) Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:38:51 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:38:51 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker Message-ID: Hi, I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of the spectrophotometer... I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui from the normal install? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 16:46:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:46:02 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of > the spectrophotometer... Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. > I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while > gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui > from the normal install? Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:51:43 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:51:43 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: >> I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of >> the spectrophotometer... > > Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. Ah ok... Without self-calibration gcm-picker is pretty much unusable :) >> I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while >> gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui >> from the normal install? > > Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I > might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before > next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pedro at pedrocr.net Tue Apr 27 07:09:05 2010 From: pedro at pedrocr.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_C=C3=B4rte=2DReal?=) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:09:05 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports Message-ID: Hi, I was just looking at the state of ubuntu g-c-m packages and saw that it is now in the universe archive. Nice. I also had a look at the bug reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. Cheers, Pedro From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 09:49:23 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:49:23 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 08:09, Pedro C?rte-Real wrote: > I also had a look at the bug > reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Cool, thanks for doing that. > Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 > (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) Looks like an avahi bug to me. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 > (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) > Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. Looks like a dupe of 562961. > gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description > it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 Looks like a bug in libusb; Fedora has had similar reports. If you can reproduce this I would be interested if you could try libusb from git master. > ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Sure, the non-free driver doesn't support XRandR 1.3, only 1.2 and so hits the screen fallback. I'm not sure there's a lot we can do to fix this until NVidia update the driver, or users start using nouveau. > Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I > can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install > dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. I'm not sure they are upstream issues, at least, not with g-c-m. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 12:58:53 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:51, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 21:57:06 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:57:06 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: > New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features > missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my preferred option right now. Richard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png Type: image/png Size: 20491 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 06:38:31 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:31 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: >> New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features >> missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. > > Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI > with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions > and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a > GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like > GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my > preferred option right now. Well, maybe the current GUI could be a hidden feature of GCM? As in we install the gcm-picker binary, but we do not provide a .desktop file, to make it show up in the GNOME menu... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 09:08:08 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:08:08 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings Message-ID: I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which might be difficult for some people. Are the latter two available in the Ubuntu and Suse development repositories yet? If not, I'll push a branch and we can merge it in a couple of weeks / months. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 10:20:12 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. > Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which > might be difficult for some people. Well this is the development-vs-stable debacle... First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user feedback you'll get... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 10:48:59 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:48:59 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28 April 2010 11:20, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... As far as I know, gnome-color-manager isn't going to be included in el6. > Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git > master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user > feedback you'll get... Sure. At the moment it seems a little _too_ bleeding edge, although I'm going to have to convert to GSettings at some point for the GNOME 3 tasks. I'm also pretty sure that pushing git master out on distros is probably a bad idea, and distros should stick to gnome-2-28. I guess the same argument is happening right now on other mailing lists. At some point we have to start testing GSettings rather than testing the other new shiny stuff. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 10:21:35 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:21:35 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release Message-ID: Version 0.1.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-06 * New Features: - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) Download from http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/releases Richard. From lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org Tue Apr 6 11:50:49 2010 From: lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Florian_H=F6ch?=) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:49 +0200 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Am 06.04.2010 12:21, schrieb Richard Hughes: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) Hi, just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Regards -- Florian H?ch http://hoech.net From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:17:34 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:34 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> References: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 12:50, Florian H?ch wrote: > just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based > profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by > FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so > the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). I didn't know that, thanks. I'll drop that from the next release. > (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been > superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if > anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Yes, I couldn't find any freely created profiles for those. Richard. From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:14:27 2010 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0400 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Richard Hughes wrote: > Version 0.1.1 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Released: 2010-04-06 > > * New Features: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard > Hughes) > - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Alexandre From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:51:10 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:51:10 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 16:14, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Sure, and expect it to get bigger still. I've split off shared-color-profiles-extra as a subpackage (with all the CMYK profiles) for Fedora, and GCM will show a GtkInfoBar if compiled with PackageKit support to install the subpackage at runtime. This keeps the base package small enough for install media and keeps me out of trouble with my distro. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 10:23:23 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:23:23 +0200 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> Do you guys think adding an interface to do spotreads (i.e. use your >> ColorMunki to tell me what the sRGB value of a color swatch) would be >> for design work? I'm not sure how such a thing would "slot" into the >> gcm GUI, although I think it might be a useful feature? Thoughts? > > That would be awesome... > > Maybe this could be a seperate tool, available in the Applications - > Graphics menu? I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 11:52:22 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:52:22 +0200 Subject: Simple-Scan Message-ID: Richard, I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 Great! We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... XSANE used to scare the living daylights out of normal people. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:38:01 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:38:01 +0100 Subject: Simple-Scan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 12:52, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: > ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 > We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... Sure, now we just need to patch simple-scan so we can get the calibration image when we calibrate the scanner. It would certainly be a better user interaction experience to prompt the user to scan with the correct settings, rather than just demanding a .tiff file of the right settings. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:41:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:41:02 +0100 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 11:23, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Yup, it's not wired up to anything yet. I've been taking down a chimney for the last 4 days, and being 30ft in the air and filthy dirty I tend to get very little programming done. :) I'll probably be done on Tuesday, and then I'll clear my "work" email and continue with the new app after that. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 09:58:38 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:58:38 +0100 Subject: GNOME Color Manager 2.30.1 Message-ID: gnome-color-manager is a session program that makes it easy to manage, install and generate color profiles in the GNOME desktop. Version 2.30.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-26 * Translations - Updated Italian translation (Francesco Groccia) - Updated Polish translation (Piotr Dr?g) * Bugfix: - Do not explode when viewing the details of a CMYK profile (Richard Hughes) - Make gcm-fix-profile open the profile from memory, as then we can catch common access permission errors (Richard Hughes) Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:38:51 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:38:51 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker Message-ID: Hi, I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of the spectrophotometer... I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui from the normal install? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 16:46:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:46:02 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of > the spectrophotometer... Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. > I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while > gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui > from the normal install? Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:51:43 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:51:43 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: >> I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of >> the spectrophotometer... > > Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. Ah ok... Without self-calibration gcm-picker is pretty much unusable :) >> I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while >> gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui >> from the normal install? > > Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I > might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before > next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pedro at pedrocr.net Tue Apr 27 07:09:05 2010 From: pedro at pedrocr.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_C=C3=B4rte=2DReal?=) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:09:05 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports Message-ID: Hi, I was just looking at the state of ubuntu g-c-m packages and saw that it is now in the universe archive. Nice. I also had a look at the bug reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. Cheers, Pedro From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 09:49:23 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:49:23 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 08:09, Pedro C?rte-Real wrote: > I also had a look at the bug > reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Cool, thanks for doing that. > Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 > (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) Looks like an avahi bug to me. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 > (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) > Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. Looks like a dupe of 562961. > gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description > it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 Looks like a bug in libusb; Fedora has had similar reports. If you can reproduce this I would be interested if you could try libusb from git master. > ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Sure, the non-free driver doesn't support XRandR 1.3, only 1.2 and so hits the screen fallback. I'm not sure there's a lot we can do to fix this until NVidia update the driver, or users start using nouveau. > Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I > can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install > dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. I'm not sure they are upstream issues, at least, not with g-c-m. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 12:58:53 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:51, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 21:57:06 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:57:06 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: > New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features > missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my preferred option right now. Richard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png Type: image/png Size: 20491 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 06:38:31 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:31 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: >> New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features >> missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. > > Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI > with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions > and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a > GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like > GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my > preferred option right now. Well, maybe the current GUI could be a hidden feature of GCM? As in we install the gcm-picker binary, but we do not provide a .desktop file, to make it show up in the GNOME menu... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 09:08:08 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:08:08 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings Message-ID: I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which might be difficult for some people. Are the latter two available in the Ubuntu and Suse development repositories yet? If not, I'll push a branch and we can merge it in a couple of weeks / months. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 10:20:12 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. > Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which > might be difficult for some people. Well this is the development-vs-stable debacle... First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user feedback you'll get... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 10:48:59 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:48:59 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28 April 2010 11:20, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... As far as I know, gnome-color-manager isn't going to be included in el6. > Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git > master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user > feedback you'll get... Sure. At the moment it seems a little _too_ bleeding edge, although I'm going to have to convert to GSettings at some point for the GNOME 3 tasks. I'm also pretty sure that pushing git master out on distros is probably a bad idea, and distros should stick to gnome-2-28. I guess the same argument is happening right now on other mailing lists. At some point we have to start testing GSettings rather than testing the other new shiny stuff. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 10:21:35 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:21:35 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release Message-ID: Version 0.1.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-06 * New Features: - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) Download from http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/releases Richard. From lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org Tue Apr 6 11:50:49 2010 From: lists+gnome-color-manager at hoech.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Florian_H=F6ch?=) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:49 +0200 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Am 06.04.2010 12:21, schrieb Richard Hughes: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard Hughes) Hi, just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Regards -- Florian H?ch http://hoech.net From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 14:17:34 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:34 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> References: <4BBB2019.2050808@hoech.org> Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 12:50, Florian H?ch wrote: > just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense to include a FOGRA27-based > profile at this point, as that characterization data has been superseded by > FOGRA39 in early 2007 (a FOGRA39 profile is part of the oyranos profiles, so > the FOGRA27 one could be safely discarded imho). I didn't know that, thanks. I'll drop that from the next release. > (As a side note, FOGRA28 [webcoated] and 29 [uncoated] have also been > superseded in 2009 by FOGRA45/46 and 47 respectively, I just don't know if > anyone has created opensource profiles based on those char'data yet) Yes, I couldn't find any freely created profiles for those. Richard. From alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:14:27 2010 From: alexandre.prokoudine at gmail.com (Alexandre Prokoudine) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0400 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/6/10, Richard Hughes wrote: > Version 0.1.1 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Released: 2010-04-06 > > * New Features: > - Add the Public Domain Fogra27L CMYK Coated Press ICC profile (Richard > Hughes) > - Add some profiles from Oyranos with a zlib licence (Richard Hughes) And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Alexandre From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 15:51:10 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:51:10 +0100 Subject: shared-color-profiles 0.1.1 release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 16:14, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > And it went from 83 KB to 18 MB? :) Sure, and expect it to get bigger still. I've split off shared-color-profiles-extra as a subpackage (with all the CMYK profiles) for Fedora, and GCM will show a GtkInfoBar if compiled with PackageKit support to install the subpackage at runtime. This keeps the base package small enough for install media and keeps me out of trouble with my distro. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 10:23:23 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:23:23 +0200 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> Do you guys think adding an interface to do spotreads (i.e. use your >> ColorMunki to tell me what the sRGB value of a color swatch) would be >> for design work? I'm not sure how such a thing would "slot" into the >> gcm GUI, although I think it might be a useful feature? Thoughts? > > That would be awesome... > > Maybe this could be a seperate tool, available in the Applications - > Graphics menu? I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Sat Apr 10 11:52:22 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:52:22 +0200 Subject: Simple-Scan Message-ID: Richard, I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 Great! We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... XSANE used to scare the living daylights out of normal people. Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:38:01 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:38:01 +0100 Subject: Simple-Scan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 12:52, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I noticed you did some color work on simple-scan: > ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/simple-scan/+bug/498029 > We now finally have a scanning app on GNOME which mum & dad can get... Sure, now we just need to patch simple-scan so we can get the calibration image when we calibrate the scanner. It would certainly be a better user interaction experience to prompt the user to scan with the correct settings, rather than just demanding a .tiff file of the right settings. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 06:41:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:41:02 +0100 Subject: Using colorimeters in different modes In-Reply-To: References: <15e53e181003300416q6f768dbfq466372d791544028@mail.gmail.com> <4c2c37f91003300937q4f01b654hb54302d2fc8a2be5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 April 2010 11:23, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I tried the new app, but it didn't do anything, I'm guessing it's still a stub? Yup, it's not wired up to anything yet. I've been taking down a chimney for the last 4 days, and being 30ft in the air and filthy dirty I tend to get very little programming done. :) I'll probably be done on Tuesday, and then I'll clear my "work" email and continue with the new app after that. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 09:58:38 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:58:38 +0100 Subject: GNOME Color Manager 2.30.1 Message-ID: gnome-color-manager is a session program that makes it easy to manage, install and generate color profiles in the GNOME desktop. Version 2.30.1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Released: 2010-04-26 * Translations - Updated Italian translation (Francesco Groccia) - Updated Polish translation (Piotr Dr?g) * Bugfix: - Do not explode when viewing the details of a CMYK profile (Richard Hughes) - Make gcm-fix-profile open the profile from memory, as then we can catch common access permission errors (Richard Hughes) Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:38:51 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:38:51 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker Message-ID: Hi, I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of the spectrophotometer... I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui from the normal install? Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 16:46:02 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:46:02 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of > the spectrophotometer... Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. > I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while > gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui > from the normal install? Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Mon Apr 26 16:51:43 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:51:43 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 April 2010 17:38, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: >> I just checked gcm-picker, and it does not ask for self-calibration of >> the spectrophotometer... > > Sure, GcmCalibrateArgyll is currently unable to get the values of the spotread. Ah ok... Without self-calibration gcm-picker is pretty much unusable :) >> I noticed gcm-picker isn't getting included into a normal build, while >> gcm-picker.ui is, so for the time being can we remove gcm-picker.ui >> from the normal install? > > Sure, for the next unstable release that's probably a good idea. I > might try and get a half-working preview version of gcm-picker before > next Monday. That mainly depends on what else goes on with $DAYJOB. Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From pedro at pedrocr.net Tue Apr 27 07:09:05 2010 From: pedro at pedrocr.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_C=C3=B4rte=2DReal?=) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:09:05 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports Message-ID: Hi, I was just looking at the state of ubuntu g-c-m packages and saw that it is now in the universe archive. Nice. I also had a look at the bug reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. Cheers, Pedro From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 09:49:23 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:49:23 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu bug reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 08:09, Pedro C?rte-Real wrote: > I also had a look at the bug > reports and it seems these are not in the gnome bugzilla: Cool, thanks for doing that. > Some kind of dbus crash in gcm-apply when resizing from fullscreen: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/562961 > (Coming out of a DVB-T input and vdpau output) Looks like an avahi bug to me. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/564739 > (Coming out of fullscreen from the VICE Commodore emulator) > Neither seems to have a particularly good backtrace unfortunately. Looks like a dupe of 562961. > gcm-apply crashing in free() inside libusb, from the user description > it happens everytime he tries to launch gcm-prefs: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/554693 Looks like a bug in libusb; Fedora has had similar reports. If you can reproduce this I would be interested if you could try libusb from git master. > ICC profile doesn't get applied when proprietary Nvidia driver is in use: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-color-manager/+bug/533961 Sure, the non-free driver doesn't support XRandR 1.3, only 1.2 and so hits the screen fallback. I'm not sure there's a lot we can do to fix this until NVidia update the driver, or users start using nouveau. > Do you want me to open upstream bug reports or is that not needed? I > can also try to follow up with the users to see if they can install > dbgsym packages and get better stack traces. I'm not sure they are upstream issues, at least, not with g-c-m. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 12:58:53 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:58:53 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 26 April 2010 17:51, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > Oh sure... No hurry... I just thought I'd try it again, and report back... New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Richard. From hughsient at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 21:57:06 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:57:06 +0100 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: > New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features > missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my preferred option right now. Richard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png Type: image/png Size: 20491 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 06:38:31 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:31 +0200 Subject: gcm-picker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 27 April 2010 13:58, Richard Hughes wrote: >> New code in git seems to work well. There are a few important features >> missing, but it basically works with the hardware now. > > Screenshot showing the functionality attached. We need to bash the UI > with a crowbar before it's ready to be used by users, so suggestions > and mockups welcome. One alternative is to just provide a > GetSpotColor(double &x, double &y, double &z) function for stuff like > GIMP and Inkscape to use and nuke the UI completely. That's my > preferred option right now. Well, maybe the current GUI could be a hidden feature of GCM? As in we install the gcm-picker binary, but we do not provide a .desktop file, to make it show up in the GNOME menu... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 09:08:08 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:08:08 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings Message-ID: I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which might be difficult for some people. Are the latter two available in the Ubuntu and Suse development repositories yet? If not, I'll push a branch and we can merge it in a couple of weeks / months. Richard. From pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl Wed Apr 28 10:20:12 2010 From: pmjdebruijn at pcode.nl (Pascal de Bruijn) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm keen on getting gnome-color-manager converted to GSettings. > Unfortunately this means a dep on GConf 2.31.1 and Gio 2.25.0 -- which > might be difficult for some people. Well this is the development-vs-stable debacle... First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user feedback you'll get... Regards, Pascal de Bruijn From hughsient at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 10:48:59 2010 From: hughsient at gmail.com (Richard Hughes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:48:59 +0100 Subject: Using GSettings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 28 April 2010 11:20, Pascal de Bruijn wrote: > First, won't this be an issue for RHEL6 as well? It will be for Ubuntu Lucid... As far as I know, gnome-color-manager isn't going to be included in el6. > Introducing bleeding edge dependencies means doing testing on git > master will be much harder, which may decrease the amount of user > feedback you'll get... Sure. At the moment it seems a little _too_ bleeding edge, although I'm going to have to convert to GSettings at some point for the GNOME 3 tasks. I'm also pretty sure that pushing git master out on distros is probably a bad idea, and distros should stick to gnome-2-28. I guess the same argument is happening right now on other mailing lists. At some point we have to start testing GSettings rather than testing the other new shiny stuff. Richard.