adam

= --=-SrMRxKPvV2boMfH2fq5J-- From rayandrews@eastlink.ca Wed Dec 18 03:03:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AFA762E9 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:03:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.136 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.136 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.536, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OMOpLPvg-OCz for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mta04.eastlink.ca (mta04.eastlink.ca [24.224.136.10]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354FB762E0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cmgw05.eastlink.ca ([71.7.199.171]) by mta04.eastlink.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-21.01 64bit (built Feb 16 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MXY0095F5ICZ020@mta04.eastlink.ca> for gedit-list@gnome.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:02:45 -0400 (AST) Received: from [24.207.19.232] ([24.207.19.232]) by cmgw05.eastlink.ca with id 2r2k1n00150RyyY01r2lXP; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:02:45 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Xr3DZz19 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yewmA+wsy3A3SPPpKxKxyw==:117 a=yewmA+wsy3A3SPPpKxKxyw==:17 a=0y6Rm8g2FWsA:10 a=nUxRpo-7jFkA:10 a=4x6EOEnIAScA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=aiIX5UjjAAAA:8 a=PzgoJgmplhRA2qqJTSMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=Dy8fvKbS6XB2IROETqMA:9 a=73PnVmu6p4rL6t2d:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Message-id: <52B11054.2000305@eastlink.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:02:44 -0800 From: Ray Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-version: 1.0 To: Adam Dingle References: <52B081F3.90208@eastlink.ca> <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> In-reply-to: <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=------------060402050009010805030605 Cc: gedit-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gedit-list] gedit-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:03:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060402050009010805030605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: Adam, > > > Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to > press Enter to initiate a search: > Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that configurable? > The Commander plugin is found in the gedit-plugins package - if you > install that, you'll see it in Editor->Preferences->Plugins. > Ok, I see that in the Synaptic package list. >> One more thing, I have no 'help' here. 'F1' gives: "There was an >> error displaying the help. The specified location is not supported." >> Can I fix that manually? > > Not sure why that's not working on your system, but you could always > browse the help here: > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/3.4/ > That will be just fine. > adam > --------------060402050009010805030605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote:

Adam,

Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to press Enter to initiate a search:

Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that configurable?

The Commander plugin is found in the gedit-plugins package - if you install that, you'll see it in Editor->Preferences->Plugins.

Ok, I see that in the Synaptic package list.

One more thing, I have no 'help' here. 'F1' gives: "There was an error displaying the help. The specified location is not supported." Can I fix that manually?

Not sure why that's not working on your system, but you could always browse the help here:

https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/3.4/

That will be just fine.

adam

--------------060402050009010805030605-- From jwcampbell@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 03:35:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1BD762E9 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:35:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o6g5lHvXeSni for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896CB762E0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id id10so4647112vcb.5 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:34:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=I/GlAsQfGtOhInY59Q4fwfOjyfexE+3uWe4Y6h8o7cw=; b=bFpiz5BqtSRYEznCmOgIEa+NXqCemdpwR6GQksGHJo3e+RwP+6FYxUg7lIbsiCLlIB ixL8fTlVfTfnfou33IBXbu7sRg5b1YNTpTsuM7jWON6UNRnwR+y1h/la96B2Y8OU9ffh aEtWAgXlIlSenOBywSAzMnHSwc6kVoefwTCxW3cxo9uUnqY0RK2D6OGewNYXguwI1bwX HyHuNjM/9iFKrZuP2aVCi1qqpCZIAW7Eg4emyiPH7ZJle8/fY3JIXgE8QyKkcSMAJRw2 17v9B9hEDP5jRdeVxQ0R4E8vs+46KHQgP9LL+csIV7C5GKVjKvlK8KyQqNBHrNtv1LEg eeLg== X-Received: by 10.221.64.17 with SMTP id xg17mr12221269vcb.5.1387337688094; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:34:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jwcampbell@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.164.66 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> References: <52B081F3.90208@eastlink.ca> <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> From: Jim Campbell Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:34:28 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zbaCDyfaVElCO5kr6jJt031KsgA Message-ID: To: Adam Dingle Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133158e151eaf04edc6ba15 Cc: gedit-list , Ray Andrews Subject: Re: [gedit-list] gedit-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:35:02 -0000 --001a1133158e151eaf04edc6ba15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Ray Andrews > wrote: > > On 16/12/13 08:56 PM, gedit-list-request@gnome.org wrote: One more thing, > I have no 'help' here. 'F1' gives: "There was an error displaying the help. > The specified location is not supported." Can I fix that manually? > > > Not sure why that's not working on your system, but you could always > browse the help here: > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/3.4/ > > adam > > > The "F1" issue may be related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1048803 It is an issue specific to Linux Mint. Jim --001a1133158e151eaf04edc6ba15 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Adam Dingle <adam@medovina.org> wrote:

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> w= rote:

On 16/12/13 0= 8:56 PM, = gedit-list-request@gnome.org wrote: One more thing, I have no 'help' here. 'F1' gives: "T= here was an error displaying the help. The specified location is not suppor= ted." Can I fix that manually?

Not sure why that's not working on your system, bu= t you could always browse the help here:

https://help.gnome.o= rg/users/gedit/3.4/

adam
<= br>

The "= ;F1" issue may be related to this bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/= +bug/1048803

It is an issue specific to Linux Mint.

Jim

--001a1133158e151eaf04edc6ba15-- From adam@medovina.org Wed Dec 18 10:03:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6783D762E9 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:03:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.342 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.766, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD=0.491, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9LldNz98O8NR for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3242760AD for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 1so6233459qec.37 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:02:46 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type; bh=HNdmLnLZV98Kqyd9uZA3bWDCqg4witcaM2JhwQoD/Yg=; b=Zh+emr/m01vRJn6ukB8F028xwsWNZTccL55k2bOkAAhrTobi87AduXRQB9b+JzIIok a/hGdBxG4f8nHUyuyPqH1eDnP5+W8S0H5/L3Us90CiQn+URY9iIHtyWaSnxIXumYAX4Z PzHhFYPPYSXsFqF8iOw233GJiqBd2ppJNS6PuiX+7ibAcCw1e2jdSesVA2rRx7yqLcHw tfUB+oVN5n6YiZ8X2P2sbxXo5t9DwlNbYjMuLXvOWktib8HdctY+1vrRAEBZSk4WvKHU qb+ngOSkXBpoUG38z6ehYV95k+fFVUrqkK6aFdqOtPgYg9CB2adJc4NneT9QQxVK7z2d nZHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmrBPIOnAIpKDL0ctzA4ew5v8yH883lB+XN2ItC//yHKQiKXfGUzNdg8TbGXIcPSJ8YxrrV X-Received: by 10.224.24.194 with SMTP id w2mr41524929qab.48.1387360966002; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.121] (209-6-89-89.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com. [209.6.89.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r5sm1387044qan.4.2013.12.18.02.02.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:02:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52b172c5.c562e00a.6550.30d0@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:57:42 -0005 From: Adam Dingle To: Ray Andrews In-Reply-To: <52B11054.2000305@eastlink.ca> References: <52B081F3.90208@eastlink.ca> <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> <52B11054.2000305@eastlink.ca> X-Mailer: geary/0.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-ReSJTRrSpbzk4i2pGafu" Cc: gedit-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gedit-list] gedit-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:03:00 -0000 --=-ReSJTRrSpbzk4i2pGafu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Ray Andrews wrote: > On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: > > Adam, >> >> >> Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to >> press Enter to initiate a search: >> >> > Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course > the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that > configurable? Since you can recall the search box at any time by pressing Ctrl+F, I think most users find there's simply no need for the box to persist. If it did persist, you'd have to move the mouse to it and click it to begin another search. Pressing Ctrl+F is arguably easier than that. adam --=-ReSJTRrSpbzk4i2pGafu Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:

On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote:

Adam,

Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to press Enter to initiate a search:

Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that configurable?

Since you can recall the search box at any time by pressing Ctrl+F, I think most users find there's simply no need for the box to persist. If it did persist, you'd have to move the mouse to it and click it to begin another search. Pressing Ctrl+F is arguably easier than that.

adam

--=-ReSJTRrSpbzk4i2pGafu-- From jeffery.to@gmail.com Wed Dec 18 11:22:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B479D768D0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:22:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KgnZSkwpBePa for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f43.google.com (mail-pb0-f43.google.com [209.85.160.43]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F39762E1 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id rq2so8265428pbb.16 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:22:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0tyV3S2BMHUu3RHz1SbkXKNucwEoL4xu3V99+YIjVzo=; b=mSXVyCAbo1sWWOlGAVNsJNtOuvrYRevRKPVC14mg8KcVgvX5mEE7MQWpAmVTCkwMMX owkChRBs8siRnV4d7TdHci4pw18XshV79pT8NH9O0IjTonp8bX8UxnsgrEnFCf+o6EiT FcYZT/MDVKcnj7PfJ2DowIa0dtWsoOhzIoWH3IjNBCmyThCGw/eulAiIwkMmHzCq2m7o 7qLStpguBhPYiAmYGuT9X5qLE/xMkeQ61j9CgY0fVqXSn/ZGLcZyNe5mZkMD2uBwg1uG EHG7Zl1qcprs9HHru0wv8fre1eG7O3kIoYtTR8MjZVlUc9oGRkJveH/FHYwJD7M1E8pu sIeA== X-Received: by 10.68.221.233 with SMTP id qh9mr5911525pbc.103.1387365740466; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:22:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.51.163 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 03:22:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131214225437.GA24488@wycliff.ceplovi.cz> References: <20131212021829.GA8710@wycliff.ceplovi.cz> <20131214225437.GA24488@wycliff.ceplovi.cz> From: Jeffery To Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:22:00 +0800 Message-ID: To: Matej Cepl Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff251782259d504edcd42e1 Cc: gedit-list Subject: Re: [gedit-list] Creating menu in gedit plugin X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:22:33 -0000 --e89a8ff251782259d504edcd42e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 03:44:50PM +0800, Jeffery To wrote: > >> If you haven't seen it yet, I suggest checking out the Python Plugin How >> To: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/PythonPluginHowTo >> > > Notice how examples talk about do_activate, do_deactivate, etc., but the > text itself has paragraphs like: > > * `Gedit.WindowActivatable`: `activate` will happen when a new window is > created or for each window that it is already created in the instance, > `deactivate` will happen when a window is destroyed or when the plugin is > disabled, and `update_state` will be called when when it is requested to > update the UI. > I have actually read the page, but I followed the text of the page not > examples. My mistake. > I've updated the page text to use the correct method names - thanks! Jeff --e89a8ff251782259d504edcd42e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On S= un, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Matej Cepl <mcepl@redhat.com> wr= ote:

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 03:44:50PM +0800, Jeffery To wrot= e:

If you haven't seen it yet, I suggest checking out the Python Plugin Ho= w
To: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/PythonPluginHowTo<= br>

Notice how examples talk about do_activate, do_deactivate, etc., but the te= xt itself has paragraphs like:

* `Gedit.WindowActivatable`: `activate` will happen when a new =A0 window i= s created or for each window that it is already =A0 created in the instance= , `deactivate` will happen when =A0 a window is destroyed or when the plugi= n is disabled, and =A0 `update_state` will be called when when it is reques= ted to =A0 update the UI.
I have actually read the page, but I followed the text of the page not exam= ples. My mistake.

I've updated the = page text to use the correct method names - thanks!

Jeff

--e89a8ff251782259d504edcd42e1-- From rayandrews@eastlink.ca Wed Dec 18 15:53:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A91768D0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.236 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.236 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jmJCUXqWp2nh for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mta02.eastlink.ca (mta02.eastlink.ca [24.224.136.13]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECC47625D for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:52:50 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+wh3oqzYPcKdksLkaEnXfA)" Received: from cmgw05.eastlink.ca ([71.7.199.171]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-21.01 64bit (built Feb 16 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MY000JXS2ZT4PD0@mta02.eastlink.ca> for gedit-list@gnome.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:52:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from [24.207.112.83] ([24.207.112.83]) by cmgw05.eastlink.ca with id 33so1n0031o11fc013so8B; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:52:49 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Xr3DZz19 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=wHqzWcfc7jmBagh3MT9hTA==:117 a=wHqzWcfc7jmBagh3MT9hTA==:17 a=0y6Rm8g2FWsA:10 a=nUxRpo-7jFkA:10 a=4x6EOEnIAScA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=N2qR7djcKI2DMAOLZcwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=WPH8NZHu1FtepdHh0S4A:9 a=yERr9FuW_REYjdVd:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Message-id: <52B1C4CF.3060104@eastlink.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 07:52:47 -0800 From: Ray Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: Adam Dingle References: <52B081F3.90208@eastlink.ca> <52b102ae.c402e00a.430b.ffffd31e@mx.google.com> <52B11054.2000305@eastlink.ca> <52b172c5.c562e00a.6550.30d0@mx.google.com> In-reply-to: <52b172c5.c562e00a.6550.30d0@mx.google.com> Cc: gedit-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [gedit-list] gedit-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:53:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_+wh3oqzYPcKdksLkaEnXfA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 18/12/13 02:02 AM, Adam Dingle wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Ray Andrews > wrote: >> On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: >> >> Adam, >>> >>> >>> Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to >>> press Enter to initiate a search: >>> >> Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course >> the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that >> configurable? > > Since you can recall the search box at any time by pressing Ctrl+F, I > think most users find there's simply no need for the box to persist. > If it did persist, you'd have to move the mouse to it and click it to > begin another search. Pressing Ctrl+F is arguably easier than that. > Sure, but why make it a 'contest'? Let the user decide, make it configurable and that's that. I'd be happy with it myself if I could just change the persistence time up to, say, two minutes. For me, things like this are matters of principal as much as they are matters of practicality. I moved to Linux precisely because I was tired of being told what I like, yet everywhere developers have this tendency to say: "Here's the latest and greatest, you are going to love it." Thus we see both gnome and KDE fragmenting and fragmenting again because so many people do not want the latest and greatest look and feel, but there seems to be no respect for that within the mainstream of development. Me, I'd have a checkbox: "Old look and feel" / "New look and feel". I'd be able to give the new idea a try now and then and, who knows, maybe I would come to love it. If not, I'd not have to consider downgrading to get back what *I* like. R --Boundary_(ID_+wh3oqzYPcKdksLkaEnXfA) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT

On 18/12/13 02:02 AM, Adam Dingle wrote:

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:

On 17/12/13 06:04 PM, Adam Dingle wrote:

Adam,

Incremental search means searching as you type, without needing to press Enter to initiate a search:

Sure, that's a very good thing, hard not to like it, but of course the persistence of the box is another issue. Why not just make that configurable?

Since you can recall the search box at any time by pressing Ctrl+F, I think most users find there's simply no need for the box to persist. Â If it did persist, you'd have to move the mouse to it and click it to begin another search. Â Pressing Ctrl+F is arguably easier than that.

Sure, but why make it a 'contest'? Let the user decide, make it configurable and that's that.Â I'd be happy with it myself if I could just change the persistence time up to, say, two minutes.Â For me, things like this are matters of principal as much as they are matters of practicality.Â I moved to Linux precisely because I was tired of being told what I like, yet everywhere developers haveÂ this tendency to say: "Here's the latest and greatest, you are going to love it."Â Thus we see both gnome and KDE fragmenting and fragmenting again because so many people do not want the latest and greatest look and feel, but there seems to be no respect for that within the mainstream of development. Me, I'd have a checkbox: "Old look and feel" / "New look and feel". I'd be able to give the new idea a try now and then and, who knows, maybe I would come to love it. If not, I'd not have to consider downgrading to get back what *I* like.

R
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Message-ID: From: Bill LaChenal To: Jim Campbell , gedit-list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff2532010688304edb43663 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:54:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [gedit-list] gedit enhancement request - larger list of formerly opened items X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:29:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:29:23 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:29:37 -0000 --e89a8ff2532010688304edb43663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks again for your time and erudite replies. *I knew I hadn't got the hang of his list thing...* Bill On 17 December 2013 04:56, Jim Campbell wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Please remember to reply to the list, and not just to me. > > What you've spelled-out in your message is a problem that is specific to > Linux Mint. For the time being, Linux Mint takes any system call to yelp > and opens up their own help web page instead. > > Yes, it's bad, and the Linux Mint developers should feel bad. > > There's a bug about it here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1048803 > > Jim > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Bill LaChenal wrote: > >> Thanks, Jim, splendid. I thought there must be a proper, sensible answer. >> >> I do see a much more general problem that a mint user seeking help is >> often just dumped at the mint main page F1, then having to waste hours >> researching (cynics have said, "free, only if you don't value your time"). >> I'm not sure where best to raise that as a QA issue (and I'm very well >> aware of the sort of developer who is averse to WTFM). >> >> Your advice would be appreciated. >> >> In my gedit (in a Mint 15 live), *Help* leads to a lazy generic "*(?) *F1 >> contents" and "about", so help gets >> http://www.linuxmint.com/documentation.php >> Wherein, a search for gedit is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. >> >> Do you reckon that useless link is in principle a gedit problem (wrong >> direction), or a mint problem, or a *live* problem? >> Considering *Firefox help* manages to point at *firefox help*, I suspect >> the former, prompting an *gedit* enhancement request: >> *please point gedit help at gnome gedit help ... rather than leaving >> user blindly to guess* >> >> Moreover, looking up at the gnome gedit top page >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/index.html.en >> I see no way of finding the the relevant *open-recent* page which you >> have so kindly indicated >> (helptext bug?) >> >> Also Help -> "About" leads to gedit.org, thence circuitously to >> wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/Plugins >> but that too seems silent about the *open-recent *(afaics). >> >> Kind regards, >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 December 2013 20:20, Jim Campbell wrote: >> >>> Actually, this is all handled through a dconf setting, and the >>> instructions for how to change it are included in the regular gedit >>> documentation. >>> >>> The help should be installed locally on your machine, but here's a link >>> to the same help topic as it is out on the web: >>> >>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-open-recent.html.en >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Gnome handles this via zeitgeist. Open up gnome shell or unity dash, >>>> and they should list your recently worked file, afaik. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> On 13 Dec 2013 22:53, "Bill LaChenal" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask (?) >>>>> >>>>> gedit has a limited memory of previously edited items which can be >>>>> recalled on restart - a drop-down list next to the 'open'. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to have rather more previously-opened items stored than >>>>> the default. >>>>> There seems to be no option to adjust this. >>>>> >>>>> I can see further usefulness if items could be stored on a per-window >>>>> basis, but that might be unnecessarily complicated. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Bill LaChenal >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> gedit-list mailing list >>>>> gedit-list@gnome.org >>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gedit-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> gedit-list mailing list >>>> gedit-list@gnome.org >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gedit-list >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --e89a8ff2532010688304edb43663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks again for your time and erudite replies.
<= br>

I knew I hadn't got the hang of his list thing...

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:la= rge">Bill

On 17 December 2013 04:56, Jim Campbell <jcampbell@gnome.org> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Please remember to reply to= the list, and not just to me.

What you've spelled-out in = your message is a problem that is specific to Linux Mint. For the time bein= g, Linux Mint takes any system call to yelp and opens up their own help web= page instead.

Yes, it's bad, and the Linux Mint developers should feel bad.
There's a bug about it here:=A0 https://bugs.launchpad.net= /linuxmint/+bug/1048803

Jim

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Bill LaChenal <billachenal= @gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Jim, splendid. I thought there must be a proper, sensible answer.
I do see a much more general problem that a mint user seeking help is= =20 often just dumped at the mint main page F1, then having to waste hours=20 researching (cynics have said, "free, only if you don't value your= =20 time").
I'm not sure where best to raise that as a QA issue=20 (and I'm very well aware of the sort of developer who is averse to=20 WTFM).

Your advice would be appreciated.

In my ge= dit (in a Mint 15 live), Help leads to a lazy generic "(?) <= /i>F1 contents" and "about", so help gets
ht= tp://www.linuxmint.com/documentation.php
Wherein, a sear= ch for gedit is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Do you reckon that useless link is in principle a gedit pro= blem (wrong direction), or a mint problem, or a live problem?
Co= nsidering Firefox help manages to point at firefox help, I su= spect the former, prompting an gedit enhancement request:
=A0please point gedit help at gnome gedit help ... rather than leaving u= ser blindly to guess

Moreover, looking up at the gno= me gedit top page
https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/index.html.en
=
I see no way of finding the the relevant open-recent page which you = have so kindly indicated
(helptext bug?)

Also Help -> "About" leads = to gedit.org, thence cir= cuitously to wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/Plugins

but that too seems silent about the open-recent (afaics)= .

Kind regards,
=A0Bill

On 16 December 2013 20:20, Jim Campbell = <jcampbell@gnom= e.org> wrote:

Actually, this is all handl= ed through a dconf setting, and the instructions for how to change it are i= ncluded in the regular gedit documentation.

The help should be installed locally on your machine, but he= re's a link to the same help topic as it is out on the web:

https://help.gnome.org/users/ged= it/stable/gedit-open-recent.html.en

Regard= s,

Jim

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Ritesh Khadgaray <khadg= aray@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

=A0 Gnome handles this via zeitgeist. Open up gnome shell or= unity dash, and they should list your recently worked file, afaik.

Cheers

On 13 Dec 2013 22:53, "Bill LaChe= nal" <bi= llachenal@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to a= sk (?)

gedit has a limited memory of previously edited items which can be recalled= on restart - a drop-down list next to the 'open'.

I would like to have rather more previously-opened items stored than the de= fault.
There seems to be no option to adjust this.

I can see further usefulness if items could be stored on a per-window= basis, but that might be unnecessarily complicated.

Kind regards,
=A0Bill LaChenal

_______________________________________________
gedit-list mailing list
gedit-list@gnome.= org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gedit-list

_______________________________________________
gedit-list mailing list
gedit-list@gnome.= org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gedit-list

--e89a8ff2532010688304edb43663-- From animeshramesh@gmail.com Fri Dec 20 06:55:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: gedit-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4540876985 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:55:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ES3omTilSld for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0E576967 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h16so2429317oag.11 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:55:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=huwvoL0x3j+mkjfpYml6ehkujvSiiERsSgFqLkcNY+A=; b=jqG0UQOqnm/+1VOeWSsnBnWuQ2li8+DiCqxooX5OgyB/saNHh5/UkcyJIt773JC0I4 0GZF2oQXI0kPlKnGW+bnQvJniV6BHVPhuTjt450a0gaGFUO6IjOoEbKrNuzOe7LSQ5VH YGJdjPPeMeebsoTLUL+lrcm82F/QopunEx4lm+isEcMbyDsUXmJClRTHvdRHTqmFQ3nz WYWA6igRcHv3a7GlpftQs7gViLMyIWg5kfX7OC1YC1m0hdNwLbyL6Lm7eW+2Z4qgacj1 7g4iBW0XLB58xNHD74FKNm5dPwkq3RD4/UOhEqhHzqdxK6hsVm4JbD2R/ytkSFGXvDRq sG+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.45.102 with SMTP id l6mr5028499oem.36.1387522511577; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.97.147 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:55:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: From: Animesh Ramesh To: gedit-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149ce366ba5f804edf1c27f X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:54:06 +0000 Subject: [gedit-list] "Failed to load module" errors X-BeenThere: gedit-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussion about usage and developement of gedit List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:55:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:25:11 +0530 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:55:26 -0000 --089e0149ce366ba5f804edf1c27f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey! I successfully built gedit using jhbuild on my 64 bit Ubuntu 13.10. But when I try to run the program as: $ jhbuild run gedit I get the following message :- *Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"* *Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"* *Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"* *GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.* *** (gedit:32573): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon user-bookmarks-symbolic: Icon 'user-bookmarks-symbolic' not present in theme* *** (gedit:32573): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon user-home-symbolic: Icon 'user-home-symbolic' not present in theme* *** (gedit:32573): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon drive-harddisk-symbolic: Icon 'drive-harddisk-symbolic' not present in theme* I tried the solution suggested here, but still getting the same message. Any ideas? Regards *Animesh Ramesh* --089e0149ce366ba5f804edf1c27f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey!

I successfully built gedit using j= hbuild on my 64 bit Ubuntu 13.10. But when I try to run the program as:
=A0 =A0 =A0=A0
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0$ jhbuild run gedit= =A0

I get the following message :-

Gtk-Me= ssage: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"

Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"

Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"<= /i>

GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings bac= kend. =A0Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.=

** (gedit:32573): WARNING **: Could not load = theme icon user-bookmarks-symbolic: Icon 'user-bookmarks-symbolic' = not present in theme

** (gedit:32573= ): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon user-home-symbolic: Icon 'user= -home-symbolic' not present in theme

** (gedit:32573): WARNING **: Could not load = theme icon drive-harddisk-symbolic: Icon 'drive-harddisk-symbolic' = not present in theme

I tried th= e solution suggested here, but s= till getting the same message.=A0

Any ideas?

Regards
Animesh Ramesh

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