From jim at yorba.org Mon Jul 1 22:22:32 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (jim) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:15:32 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Great update! In-Reply-To: <51cf4cf8.0164b40a.120b.7a88@mx.google.com> References: <51cf4cf8.0164b40a.120b.7a88@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d2011c.890c440a.6baa.ffffdaf2@mx.google.com> Thanks for the kind words, Bruno. There's more to come! -- Jim On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to say thank you for the latest update in Geary: the unread > count and the search make a massive difference in usability! > > Cheers, > > Bruno > > > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From 4712.joey at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 15:22:12 2013 From: 4712.joey at gmail.com (Joey 4712) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:24:12 +0002 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me Message-ID: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> Hi all, maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the yellow background for the mails sent by me very much. I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the threaded view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and some blue colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 themes, I think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with this. Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted to share this with you and ask others, what they think ... And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to thank you once again for all your work for buildung this great new linux mail client ;-) Let me know what you think about it ... Bye Joey From jim at yorba.org Tue Jul 2 16:20:07 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:13:07 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any of them. I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I was not used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time now) and wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on revisiting the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme or simply revert the color change. -- Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the > yellow background for the mails sent by me very much. > > I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the threaded > view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and some > blue colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 > themes, I think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with > this. > > Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted to > share this with you and ask others, what they think ... > > And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to > thank you once again for all your work for buildung this great new > linux mail client ;-) > > Let me know what you think about it ... > > Bye > > Joey > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From bdensmore at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 16:27:04 2013 From: bdensmore at gmail.com (Ben Densmore) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:27:04 -0400 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I agree with you both. I think Geary is turning into an incredible mail client and love using it. But when I saw the yellow show up after doing an update today, I found it to be not so pleasing. As Joey said, it's not a show stopper. Just wasn't that appealing to they eye. Keep up the awesome work Jim and everyone at Yorba. I for one truly appreciate what you've accomplished. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > Hey Joey -- > > We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any of them. > I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I was not > used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time now) and > wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. > > That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on revisiting the > issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme or simply > revert the color change. > > -- Jim > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the yellow >> background for the mails sent by me very much. >> >> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the threaded >> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and some blue >> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 themes, I >> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with this. >> >> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted to share >> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >> >> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to thank >> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new linux mail >> client ;-) >> >> Let me know what you think about it ... >> >> Bye >> >> Joey >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > ______________________________**_________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From 4712.joey at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 16:28:13 2013 From: 4712.joey at gmail.com (Joey 4712) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:30:13 +0002 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially if you come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of grey. Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own messages by using some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I don't know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the threaded view? Joey On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: > Hey Joey -- > > We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any of > them. I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I > was not used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some > time now) and wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. > > That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on > revisiting the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color > scheme or simply revert the color change. > > -- Jim > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the >> yellow background for the mails sent by me very much. >> >> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the >> threaded view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly >> grey and some blue colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome >> 3 and GTK 3 themes, I think the yellow background doesn't quite fit >> together with this. >> >> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted to >> share this with you and ask others, what they think ... >> >> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to >> thank you once again for all your work for buildung this great new >> linux mail client ;-) >> >> Let me know what you think about it ... >> >> Bye >> >> Joey >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From eric at yorba.org Tue Jul 2 18:09:03 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 11:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself appear with a light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > Let's see what the future will bring :-) > > I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to improve this. > Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially if you > come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of grey. > > Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own messages by using > some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I don't > know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the threaded view? > > Joey > > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: > >> Hey Joey -- >> >> We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any of them. >> I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I was not >> used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time now) and >> wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. >> >> That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on revisiting >> the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme or simply >> revert the color change. >> >> -- Jim >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the yellow >>> background for the mails sent by me very much. >>> >>> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the threaded >>> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and some blue >>> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 themes, I >>> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with this. >>> >>> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted to share >>> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >>> >>> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to thank >>> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new linux mail >>> client ;-) >>> >>> Let me know what you think about it ... >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Joey >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From avi.w.levy at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 18:28:34 2013 From: avi.w.levy at gmail.com (Avi) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:23:34 -0005 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the issue is that collapsed messages are also light grey. Up until now, we tried to get around this by playing with the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned out too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish sent messages from collapsed messages that doesn't involve color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort of hatched background, but otherwise remain the same color as sent messages? On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory wrote: > Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself appear > with a > light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? > > - Eric > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Let's see what the future will bring :-) >> >> I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to >> improve this. >> Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially if >> you >> come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of grey. >> >> Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own messages >> by using >> some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I >> don't >> know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the >> threaded view? >> >> Joey >> >> >> On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: >> >>> Hey Joey -- >>> >>> We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any of >>> them. >>> I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I >>> was not >>> used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time >>> now) and >>> wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. >>> >>> That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on >>> revisiting >>> the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme or >>> simply >>> revert the color change. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the >>>> yellow >>>> background for the mails sent by me very much. >>>> >>>> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the >>>> threaded >>>> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and >>>> some blue >>>> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 >>>> themes, I >>>> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with this. >>>> >>>> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted >>>> to share >>>> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >>>> >>>> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to >>>> thank >>>> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new >>>> linux mail >>>> client ;-) >>>> >>>> Let me know what you think about it ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> >>>> Joey >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Geary mailing list >>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>> >>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From 4712.joey at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 18:35:01 2013 From: 4712.joey at gmail.com (Joey 4712) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:37:01 +0002 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at all. Did you already try to use white for the collapsed messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the grey for the sent messages? On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi wrote: > Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the issue is > that collapsed messages are also light grey. Up until now, we tried > to get around this by playing with the color scheme. It looks like > that hasn't turned out too well, so maybe there is a way to > distinguish sent messages from collapsed messages that doesn't > involve color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort of > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same color as sent > messages? > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory wrote: >> Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself appear >> with a >> light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? >> >> - Eric >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) >>> >>> I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to >>> improve this. >>> Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially >>> if you >>> come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of >>> grey. >>> >>> Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own messages >>> by using >>> some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I >>> don't >>> know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the >>> threaded view? >>> >>> Joey >>> >>> >>> On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Joey -- >>>> >>>> We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any >>>> of them. >>>> I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I >>>> was not >>>> used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time >>>> now) and >>>> wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. >>>> >>>> That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on >>>> revisiting >>>> the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme >>>> or simply >>>> revert the color change. >>>> >>>> -- Jim >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the >>>>> yellow >>>>> background for the mails sent by me very much. >>>>> >>>>> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the >>>>> threaded >>>>> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey and >>>>> some blue >>>>> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 >>>>> themes, I >>>>> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with this. >>>>> >>>>> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted >>>>> to share >>>>> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >>>>> >>>>> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want to >>>>> thank >>>>> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new >>>>> linux mail >>>>> client ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Let me know what you think about it ... >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> >>>>> Joey >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Geary mailing list >>>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> From avi.w.levy at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 19:02:59 2013 From: avi.w.levy at gmail.com (Avi) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:57:59 -0005 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> It makes sense to use a muted color for collapsed messages, because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" visually. This is especially the case when you have a long email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. I tried out cross hatches and in my opinion it seems to work very well. Normal messages: Expanded background = white Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches Sent messages: Expanded background = light grey Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross hatches I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css file. You can try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory under Geary root. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at all. Did you > already try to use white for the collapsed messages (same as for > expanded messages) and use the grey for the sent messages? > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi wrote: >> Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the issue is >> that collapsed messages are also light grey. Up until now, we tried >> to get around this by playing with the color scheme. It looks like >> that hasn't turned out too well, so maybe there is a way to >> distinguish sent messages from collapsed messages that doesn't >> involve color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort of >> hatched background, but otherwise remain the same color as sent >> messages? >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory wrote: >>> Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself appear >>> with a >>> light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? >>> >>> - Eric >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) >>>> >>>> I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to >>>> improve this. >>>> Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially >>>> if you >>>> come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of >>>> grey. >>>> >>>> Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own messages >>>> by using >>>> some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I >>>> don't >>>> know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the >>>> threaded view? >>>> >>>> Joey >>>> >>>> >>>> On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Joey -- >>>>> >>>>> We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any >>>>> of them. >>>>> I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I >>>>> was not >>>>> used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time >>>>> now) and >>>>> wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. >>>>> >>>>> That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on >>>>> revisiting >>>>> the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme >>>>> or simply >>>>> revert the color change. >>>>> >>>>> -- Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the >>>>>> yellow >>>>>> background for the mails sent by me very much. >>>>>> >>>>>> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the >>>>>> threaded >>>>>> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey >>>>>> and some blue >>>>>> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 >>>>>> themes, I >>>>>> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with >>>>>> this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I wanted >>>>>> to share >>>>>> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >>>>>> >>>>>> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want >>>>>> to thank >>>>>> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new >>>>>> linux mail >>>>>> client ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think about it ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye >>>>>> >>>>>> Joey >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Geary mailing list >>>>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> >>>> Geary mailing list >>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>> >>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> From avi.w.levy at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 19:12:04 2013 From: avi.w.levy at gmail.com (Avi) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:07:04 -0005 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a screenshot. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Avi wrote: > It makes sense to use a muted color for collapsed messages, because > you want the expanded messages to "jump out" visually. This is > especially the case when you have a long email conversation with lots > of collapsed messages. > > I tried out cross hatches and in my opinion it seems to work very > well. > > Normal messages: > Expanded background = white > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches > Sent messages: > Expanded background = light grey > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross hatches > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css file. You can try this > out by moving it into the "theming" directory under Geary root. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >> I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at all. Did >> you already try to use white for the collapsed messages (same as for >> expanded messages) and use the grey for the sent messages? >> >> On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi wrote: >>> Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the issue is >>> that collapsed messages are also light grey. Up until now, we tried >>> to get around this by playing with the color scheme. It looks like >>> that hasn't turned out too well, so maybe there is a way to >>> distinguish sent messages from collapsed messages that doesn't >>> involve color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort of >>> hatched background, but otherwise remain the same color as sent >>> messages? >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory wrote: >>>> Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself >>>> appear with a >>>> light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? >>>> >>>> - Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) >>>>> >>>>> I'm also not quite sure what color would be better or how to >>>>> improve this. >>>>> Maybe it has to be grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially >>>>> if you >>>>> come to a point where you have three or for different kinds of >>>>> grey. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe think about a different solution? Highlighting own >>>>> messages by using >>>>> some icon or arrow? Only highlight the header with the labels? I >>>>> don't >>>>> know.... How does Apple Mail display the own messages in the >>>>> threaded view? >>>>> >>>>> Joey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Joey -- >>>>>> >>>>>> We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with any >>>>>> of them. >>>>>> I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I >>>>>> was not >>>>>> used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time >>>>>> now) and >>>>>> wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, I'm still not entirely happy with it and plan on >>>>>> revisiting >>>>>> the issue soon. I suspect we'll either find a new color scheme >>>>>> or simply >>>>>> revert the color change. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like >>>>>>> the yellow >>>>>>> background for the mails sent by me very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the idea to easily see what was my own message in the >>>>>>> threaded >>>>>>> view. But when I have a desktop environment with mostly grey >>>>>>> and some blue >>>>>>> colors, like Gnome 3 default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 >>>>>>> themes, I >>>>>>> think the yellow background doesn't quite fit together with >>>>>>> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course this is only my personal impression. However I >>>>>>> wanted to share >>>>>>> this with you and ask others, what they think ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And of course: I know this is not *that* important and I want >>>>>>> to thank >>>>>>> you once again for all your work for buildung this great new >>>>>>> linux mail >>>>>>> client ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know what you think about it ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bye >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joey >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> Geary mailing list >>>>>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> >>>>> Geary mailing list >>>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Geary mailing list >>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>> From eric at yorba.org Tue Jul 2 19:24:25 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:24:25 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? - E On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi wrote: > Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a screenshot. > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Avi wrote: > > It makes sense to use a muted color for collapsed messages, because you > want the expanded messages to "jump out" visually. This is especially the > case when you have a long email conversation with lots of collapsed > messages. > > I tried out cross hatches and in my opinion it seems to work very well. > > Normal messages: > Expanded background = white > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches > Sent messages: > Expanded background = light grey > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross hatches > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css file. You can try this out by > moving it into the "theming" directory under Geary root. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at all. Did you > already try to use white for the collapsed messages (same as for expanded > messages) and use the grey for the sent messages? > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi wrote: > > Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the issue is that > collapsed messages are also light grey. Up until now, we tried to get > around this by playing with the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't > turned out too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish sent messages > from collapsed messages that doesn't involve color? Maybe collapsed > messages could have some sort of hatched background, but otherwise remain > the same color as sent messages? > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory wrote: > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by yourself appear with a > light gray background. I wonder if that would look better here? - Eric On > Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > > Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm also not quite sure what > color would be better or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be grey, but > grey isn't easy as well, especially if you come to a point where you have > three or for different kinds of grey. Maybe think about a different > solution? Highlighting own messages by using some icon or arrow? Only > highlight the header with the labels? I don't know.... How does Apple Mail > display the own messages in the threaded view? Joey On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um > 6:20 , Jim Nelson wrote: > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color schemes and weren't satisfied with > any of them. I had a concern working through it that the problem was that I > was not used to the colors at all (I've been using Geary for some time now) > and wanted to try them on for size, so to speak. That said, I'm still not > entirely happy with it and plan on revisiting the issue soon. I suspect > we'll either find a new color scheme or simply revert the color change. -- > Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi all, maybe this is only a question of taste :-) But I don't like the > yellow background for the mails sent by me very much. I like the idea to > easily see what was my own message in the threaded view. But when I have a > desktop environment with mostly grey and some blue colors, like Gnome 3 > default and many other Gnome 3 and GTK 3 themes, I think the yellow > background doesn't quite fit together with this. Of course this is only my > personal impression. However I wanted to share this with you and ask > others, what they think ... And of course: I know this is not *that* > important and I want to thank you once again for all your work for buildung > this great new linux mail client ;-) Let me know what you think about it > ... Bye Joey ______________________________**_________________ Geary > mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary< > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary> > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Geary mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary< > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary> > > _______________________________________________ Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > From 4712.joey at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 19:42:45 2013 From: 4712.joey at gmail.com (Joey 4712) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 21:42:45 +0200 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> Yes, screenshot and CSS both is corrupted. Files seem to be truncated. But the topmost pixels of the screenshot which you can already see look promising :) Am Dienstag, den 02.07.2013, 12:24 -0700 schrieb Eric Gregory: > Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? > > > > - E > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi wrote: > > Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a > screenshot. > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Avi > wrote: > > > It makes sense to use a muted color for collapsed messages, > > because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" > > visually. This is especially the case when you have a long > > email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. > > > > > > > > I tried out cross hatches and in my opinion it seems to work > > very well. > > > > > > > > Normal messages: > > Expanded background = white > > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches > > Sent messages: > > Expanded background = light grey > > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross > > hatches > > > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css file. You can > > try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory under > > Geary root. > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 > > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at > > > all. Did you already try to use white for the collapsed > > > messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the grey > > > for the sent messages? > > > > > > > > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but the > > > > issue is that collapsed messages are also light grey. Up > > > > until now, we tried to get around this by playing with > > > > the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned out > > > > too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish sent > > > > messages from collapsed messages that doesn't involve > > > > color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort of > > > > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same color > > > > as sent messages? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by > > > > > yourself appear with a light gray background. I wonder > > > > > if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, Jul 2, > > > > > 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm > > > > > also not quite sure what color would be better > > > > > or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be > > > > > grey, but grey isn't easy as well, especially > > > > > if you come to a point where you have three or > > > > > for different kinds of grey. Maybe think about > > > > > a different solution? Highlighting own > > > > > messages by using some icon or arrow? Only > > > > > highlight the header with the labels? I don't > > > > > know.... How does Apple Mail display the own > > > > > messages in the threaded view? Joey On Di, 2. > > > > > Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color > > > > > schemes and weren't satisfied with any > > > > > of them. I had a concern working > > > > > through it that the problem was that I > > > > > was not used to the colors at all > > > > > (I've been using Geary for some time > > > > > now) and wanted to try them on for > > > > > size, so to speak. That said, I'm > > > > > still not entirely happy with it and > > > > > plan on revisiting the issue soon. I > > > > > suspect we'll either find a new color > > > > > scheme or simply revert the color > > > > > change. -- Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at > > > > > 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 > > > > > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, maybe this is only a > > > > > question of taste :-) But I > > > > > don't like the yellow > > > > > background for the mails sent > > > > > by me very much. I like the > > > > > idea to easily see what was my > > > > > own message in the threaded > > > > > view. But when I have a > > > > > desktop environment with > > > > > mostly grey and some blue > > > > > colors, like Gnome 3 default > > > > > and many other Gnome 3 and GTK > > > > > 3 themes, I think the yellow > > > > > background doesn't quite fit > > > > > together with this. Of course > > > > > this is only my personal > > > > > impression. However I wanted > > > > > to share this with you and ask > > > > > others, what they think ... > > > > > And of course: I know this is > > > > > not *that* important and I > > > > > want to thank you once again > > > > > for all your work for buildung > > > > > this great new linux mail > > > > > client ;-) Let me know what > > > > > you think about it ... Bye > > > > > Joey > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ Geary mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > > > > > > > > > Geary mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org > > > > > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Geary > > > > > mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org > > > > > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > > From jim at yorba.org Tue Jul 2 21:24:22 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 21:17:22 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> Message-ID: <51d34509.c528440a.2670.2d8e@mx.google.com> The screenshot and CSS file didn't come through for me either. I've created a new ticket for changing the color scheme: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192 Avi, please attach your files to that ticket. Thanks, -- Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, screenshot and CSS both is corrupted. Files seem to be truncated. > > But the topmost pixels of the screenshot which you can already see > look > promising :) > > > Am Dienstag, den 02.07.2013, 12:24 -0700 schrieb Eric Gregory: >> Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? >> >> >> >> - E >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi wrote: >> >> Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a >> screenshot. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Avi >> wrote: >> >> > It makes sense to use a muted color for collapsed >> messages, >> > because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" >> > visually. This is especially the case when you have a long >> > email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. >> > >> > >> > >> > I tried out cross hatches and in my opinion it seems to >> work >> > very well. >> > >> > >> > >> > Normal messages: >> > Expanded background = white >> > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches >> > Sent messages: >> > Expanded background = light grey >> > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross >> > hatches >> > >> > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css file. You can >> > try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory >> under >> > Geary root. >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 >> > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages is needed at >> > > all. Did you already try to use white for the collapsed >> > > messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the >> grey >> > > for the sent messages? >> > > >> > > >> > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 , Avi >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Light grey would probably feel the most natural, but >> the >> > > > issue is that collapsed messages are also light grey. >> Up >> > > > until now, we tried to get around this by playing with >> > > > the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned out >> > > > too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish sent >> > > > messages from collapsed messages that doesn't involve >> > > > color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort >> of >> > > > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same >> color >> > > > as sent messages? >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric Gregory >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, but mails sent by >> > > > > yourself appear with a light gray background. I >> wonder >> > > > > if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, Jul >> 2, >> > > > > 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm >> > > > > also not quite sure what color would be >> better >> > > > > or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be >> > > > > grey, but grey isn't easy as well, >> especially >> > > > > if you come to a point where you have three >> or >> > > > > for different kinds of grey. Maybe think >> about >> > > > > a different solution? Highlighting own >> > > > > messages by using some icon or arrow? Only >> > > > > highlight the header with the labels? I >> don't >> > > > > know.... How does Apple Mail display the own >> > > > > messages in the threaded view? Joey On Di, >> 2. >> > > > > Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson >> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color >> > > > > schemes and weren't satisfied with >> any >> > > > > of them. I had a concern working >> > > > > through it that the problem was >> that I >> > > > > was not used to the colors at all >> > > > > (I've been using Geary for some time >> > > > > now) and wanted to try them on for >> > > > > size, so to speak. That said, I'm >> > > > > still not entirely happy with it and >> > > > > plan on revisiting the issue soon. I >> > > > > suspect we'll either find a new >> color >> > > > > scheme or simply revert the color >> > > > > change. -- Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 >> at >> > > > > 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 >> > > > > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi all, maybe this is only a >> > > > > question of taste :-) But I >> > > > > don't like the yellow >> > > > > background for the mails >> sent >> > > > > by me very much. I like the >> > > > > idea to easily see what was >> my >> > > > > own message in the threaded >> > > > > view. But when I have a >> > > > > desktop environment with >> > > > > mostly grey and some blue >> > > > > colors, like Gnome 3 default >> > > > > and many other Gnome 3 and >> GTK >> > > > > 3 themes, I think the yellow >> > > > > background doesn't quite fit >> > > > > together with this. Of >> course >> > > > > this is only my personal >> > > > > impression. However I wanted >> > > > > to share this with you and >> ask >> > > > > others, what they think ... >> > > > > And of course: I know this >> is >> > > > > not *that* important and I >> > > > > want to thank you once again >> > > > > for all your work for >> buildung >> > > > > this great new linux mail >> > > > > client ;-) Let me know what >> > > > > you think about it ... Bye >> > > > > Joey >> > > > > >> ______________________________**_________________ Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ______________________________**_________________ >> > > > > >> > > > > Geary mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org >> > > > > >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> Geary >> > > > > mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org >> > > > > >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From avi.w.levy at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 21:59:49 2013 From: avi.w.levy at gmail.com (Avi) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 21:54:49 -0005 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d34509.c528440a.2670.2d8e@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> <51d34509.c528440a.2670.2d8e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d34d57.c42ab60a.2367.2da8@mx.google.com> I'm sorry, not sure what happened to those files. Re-uploading to #7192. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: > The screenshot and CSS file didn't come through for me either. I've > created a new ticket for changing the color scheme: > http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192 Avi, please attach your files > to that ticket. > > Thanks, > > -- Jim > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Yes, screenshot and CSS both is corrupted. Files seem to be >> truncated. >> >> But the topmost pixels of the screenshot which you can already see >> look >> promising :) >> >> Am Dienstag, den 02.07.2013, 12:24 -0700 schrieb Eric Gregory: >>> Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? >>> - E >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi >>> wrote: >>> Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a >>> screenshot. >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, >>> Avi >>> wrote: >>> > It makes sense to use a muted color for >>> collapsed messages, >>> > because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" >>> > visually. This is especially the case when you have a >>> long >>> > email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. >>> > > > > I tried out cross >>> hatches and in my opinion it seems to work >>> > very well. >>> > > > > Normal messages: >>> > Expanded background = white >>> > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross hatches >>> > Sent messages: >>> > Expanded background = light grey >>> > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross >>> > hatches >>> > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css >>> file. You can >>> > try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory >>> under >>> > Geary root. >>> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 >>> > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed messages >>> is needed at >>> > > all. Did you already try to use white for the collapsed >>> > > messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the >>> grey >>> > > for the sent messages? >>> > > > > > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 >>> , Avi >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > > Light grey would probably feel the most >>> natural, but the >>> > > > issue is that collapsed messages are also light >>> grey. Up >>> > > > until now, we tried to get around this by playing >>> with >>> > > > the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned >>> out >>> > > > too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish sent >>> > > > messages from collapsed messages that doesn't involve >>> > > > color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some sort >>> of >>> > > > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same >>> color >>> > > > as sent messages? >>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric >>> Gregory >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, >>> but mails sent by >>> > > > > yourself appear with a light gray background. I >>> wonder >>> > > > > if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, Jul >>> 2, >>> > > > > 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm >>> > > > > also not quite sure what color would be >>> better >>> > > > > or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be >>> > > > > grey, but grey isn't easy as well, >>> especially >>> > > > > if you come to a point where you have >>> three or >>> > > > > for different kinds of grey. Maybe think >>> about >>> > > > > a different solution? Highlighting own >>> > > > > messages by using some icon or arrow? Only >>> > > > > highlight the header with the labels? I >>> don't >>> > > > > know.... How does Apple Mail display the >>> own >>> > > > > messages in the threaded view? Joey On Di, >>> 2. >>> > > > > Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson >>> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color >>> > > > > schemes and weren't satisfied with >>> any >>> > > > > of them. I had a concern working >>> > > > > through it that the problem was >>> that I >>> > > > > was not used to the colors at all >>> > > > > (I've been using Geary for some >>> time >>> > > > > now) and wanted to try them on for >>> > > > > size, so to speak. That said, I'm >>> > > > > still not entirely happy with it >>> and >>> > > > > plan on revisiting the issue soon. >>> I >>> > > > > suspect we'll either find a new >>> color >>> > > > > scheme or simply revert the color >>> > > > > change. -- Jim On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 >>> at >>> > > > > 8:22 AM, Joey 4712 >>> > > > > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Hi all, maybe this is only a >>> > > > > question of taste :-) But I >>> > > > > don't like the yellow >>> > > > > background for the mails >>> sent >>> > > > > by me very much. I like the >>> > > > > idea to easily see what >>> was my >>> > > > > own message in the threaded >>> > > > > view. But when I have a >>> > > > > desktop environment with >>> > > > > mostly grey and some blue >>> > > > > colors, like Gnome 3 >>> default >>> > > > > and many other Gnome 3 and >>> GTK >>> > > > > 3 themes, I think the >>> yellow >>> > > > > background doesn't quite >>> fit >>> > > > > together with this. Of >>> course >>> > > > > this is only my personal >>> > > > > impression. However I >>> wanted >>> > > > > to share this with you and >>> ask >>> > > > > others, what they think ... >>> > > > > And of course: I know this >>> is >>> > > > > not *that* important and I >>> > > > > want to thank you once >>> again >>> > > > > for all your work for >>> buildung >>> > > > > this great new linux mail >>> > > > > client ;-) Let me know what >>> > > > > you think about it ... Bye >>> > > > > Joey >>> > > > > >>> ______________________________**_________________ Geary mailing >>> list Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> > > > > > > > > >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> > > > > > > > > Geary mailing >>> list Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> > > > > >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> > > > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ Geary >>> > > > > mailing list Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> > > > > >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From brunogirin at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 17:07:25 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:08:25 +0001 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance Message-ID: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning front? Cheers, Bruno From jim at yorba.org Wed Jul 3 17:18:21 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:11:21 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How long does the CPU spike last? Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to geary at yorba.org? -- Jim On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Hi all, > > Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the > system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see > attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning > front? > > Cheers, > > Bruno > > From 4712.joey at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 20:15:17 2013 From: 4712.joey at gmail.com (Joey 4712) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:17:17 +0002 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d34d57.c42ab60a.2367.2da8@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> <51d34509.c528440a.2670.2d8e@mx.google.com> <51d34d57.c42ab60a.2367.2da8@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d48677.c2770e0a.50c3.ffffc0f5@mx.google.com> Hi Avi, thank you for this. I like your idea of using the repeating-linear-gradient for this very much. At least for me this looks much nicer now. I played around with it a bit and just attached an alternative version of your patch to the ticket: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192#note-2 But of course all credits for this go to you :-) Just wanted to share my result of playing around with it with others ... Thanks Joey On Di, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:59 , Avi wrote: > I'm sorry, not sure what happened to those files. > Re-uploading to #7192. > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: >> The screenshot and CSS file didn't come through for me either. I've >> created a new ticket for changing the color scheme: >> http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192 Avi, please attach your files >> to that ticket. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- Jim >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Yes, screenshot and CSS both is corrupted. Files seem to be >>> truncated. >>> >>> But the topmost pixels of the screenshot which you can already see >>> look >>> promising :) >>> >>> Am Dienstag, den 02.07.2013, 12:24 -0700 schrieb Eric Gregory: >>>> Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? >>>> - E >>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi >>>> wrote: >>>> Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a >>>> screenshot. >>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 >>>> PM, Avi >>>> wrote: >>>> > It makes sense to use a muted color for >>>> collapsed messages, >>>> > because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" >>>> > visually. This is especially the case when you have a >>>> long >>>> > email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. >>>> > > > > I tried out cross >>>> hatches and in my opinion it seems to work >>>> > very well. >>>> > > > > Normal messages: >>>> > Expanded background = white >>>> > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross >>>> hatches >>>> > Sent messages: >>>> > Expanded background = light grey >>>> > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross >>>> > hatches >>>> > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css >>>> file. You can >>>> > try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory >>>> under >>>> > Geary root. >>>> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 >>>> > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed >>>> messages is needed at >>>> > > all. Did you already try to use white for the >>>> collapsed >>>> > > messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the >>>> grey >>>> > > for the sent messages? >>>> > > > > > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um 8:28 >>>> , Avi >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > Light grey would probably feel the >>>> most natural, but the >>>> > > > issue is that collapsed messages are also light >>>> grey. Up >>>> > > > until now, we tried to get around this by playing >>>> with >>>> > > > the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned >>>> out >>>> > > > too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish >>>> sent >>>> > > > messages from collapsed messages that doesn't >>>> involve >>>> > > > color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some >>>> sort of >>>> > > > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same >>>> color >>>> > > > as sent messages? >>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Eric >>>> Gregory >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, >>>> but mails sent by >>>> > > > > yourself appear with a light gray background. I >>>> wonder >>>> > > > > if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, >>>> Jul 2, >>>> > > > > 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm >>>> > > > > also not quite sure what color would be >>>> better >>>> > > > > or how to improve this. Maybe it has to be >>>> > > > > grey, but grey isn't easy as well, >>>> especially >>>> > > > > if you come to a point where you have >>>> three or >>>> > > > > for different kinds of grey. Maybe think >>>> about >>>> > > > > a different solution? Highlighting own >>>> > > > > messages by using some icon or arrow? Only >>>> > > > > highlight the header with the labels? I >>>> don't >>>> > > > > know.... How does Apple Mail display the >>>> own >>>> > > > > messages in the threaded view? Joey On >>>> Di, 2. >>>> > > > > Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson >>>> >>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color >>>> > > > > schemes and weren't satisfied >>>> with any >>>> > > > > of them. I had a concern working >>>> > > > > through it that the problem was >>>> that I >>>> > > > > was not used to the colors at all >>>> > > > > (I've been using Geary for some >>>> time >>>> > > > > now) and wanted to try them on for >>>> > > > > size, so to speak. That said, I'm >>>> > > > > still not entirely happy with it >>>> and >>>> > > > > plan on revisiting the issue s >>>> From avi.w.levy at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 21:10:19 2013 From: avi.w.levy at gmail.com (Avi) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 21:05:19 -0005 Subject: [Geary] Yellow background for mails sent by me In-Reply-To: <51d48677.c2770e0a.50c3.ffffc0f5@mx.google.com> References: <51d2f042.c35d0f0a.2a34.0dc4@mx.google.com> <51d2fdbc.61a2420a.72bf.1611@mx.google.com> <51d2ffbd.03210f0a.66f8.278d@mx.google.com> <51d31bd3.c16cb60a.5272.ffffe504@mx.google.com> <51d31d73.02180f0a.3713.3d96@mx.google.com> <51d323e5.84e2b60a.24ed.ffffeeac@mx.google.com> <51d32605.018eb60a.4f0e.fffff43c@mx.google.com> <1372794165.17002.1.camel@blechkuebel> <51d34509.c528440a.2670.2d8e@mx.google.com> <51d34d57.c42ab60a.2367.2da8@mx.google.com> <51d48677.c2770e0a.50c3.ffffc0f5@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d4933e.0d99320a.5f2a.6ba0@mx.google.com> Glad you like it! Now let's see if other people like the cross hatching as well. I saw your patch - it looked like you tweaked the cross hatch pattern a bit. I don't really have an opinion here. Hatching looks like hatching to me... Best, Avi On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Avi, > > thank you for this. I like your idea of using the > repeating-linear-gradient for this very much. At least for me this > looks much nicer now. > > I played around with it a bit and just attached an alternative > version of your patch to the ticket: > http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192#note-2 > > But of course all credits for this go to you :-) Just wanted to share > my result of playing around with it with others ... > > Thanks > > Joey > > > > On Di, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:59 , Avi wrote: >> I'm sorry, not sure what happened to those files. >> Re-uploading to #7192. >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jim Nelson wrote: >>> The screenshot and CSS file didn't come through for me either. >>> I've created a new ticket for changing the color scheme: >>> http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7192 Avi, please attach your files >>> to that ticket. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Yes, screenshot and CSS both is corrupted. Files seem to be >>>> truncated. >>>> >>>> But the topmost pixels of the screenshot which you can already see >>>> look >>>> promising :) >>>> >>>> Am Dienstag, den 02.07.2013, 12:24 -0700 schrieb Eric Gregory: >>>>> Seems the image file is corrupted, could you try again? >>>>> - E >>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Avi >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Actually, it might be better to just show you guys a >>>>> screenshot. >>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 >>>>> PM, Avi >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > It makes sense to use a muted color for >>>>> collapsed messages, >>>>> > because you want the expanded messages to "jump out" >>>>> > visually. This is especially the case when you have a >>>>> long >>>>> > email conversation with lots of collapsed messages. >>>>> > > > > I tried out cross >>>>> hatches and in my opinion it seems to work >>>>> > very well. >>>>> > > > > Normal messages: >>>>> > Expanded background = white >>>>> > Collapsed background = light grey on white cross >>>>> hatches >>>>> > Sent messages: >>>>> > Expanded background = light grey >>>>> > Collapsed background = dark grey on light grey cross >>>>> > hatches >>>>> > > I'm attaching an updated message-viewer.css >>>>> file. You can >>>>> > try this out by moving it into the "theming" directory >>>>> under >>>>> > Geary root. >>>>> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Joey 4712 >>>>> > <4712.joey at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > I wonder if the grey for collapsed >>>>> messages is needed at >>>>> > > all. Did you already try to use white for the >>>>> collapsed >>>>> > > messages (same as for expanded messages) and use the >>>>> grey >>>>> > > for the sent messages? >>>>> > > > > > > On Di, 2. Jul, 2013 um >>>>> 8:28 , Avi >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > > > > Light grey would probably feel the >>>>> most natural, but the >>>>> > > > issue is that collapsed messages are also light >>>>> grey. Up >>>>> > > > until now, we tried to get around this by playing >>>>> with >>>>> > > > the color scheme. It looks like that hasn't turned >>>>> out >>>>> > > > too well, so maybe there is a way to distinguish >>>>> sent >>>>> > > > messages from collapsed messages that doesn't >>>>> involve >>>>> > > > color? Maybe collapsed messages could have some >>>>> sort of >>>>> > > > hatched background, but otherwise remain the same >>>>> color >>>>> > > > as sent messages? >>>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, >>>>> Eric Gregory >>>>> > > > wrote: >>>>> > > > > > > > Apple Mail has a similar feature, >>>>> but mails sent by >>>>> > > > > yourself appear with a light gray background. I >>>>> wonder >>>>> > > > > if that would look better here? - Eric On Tue, >>>>> Jul 2, >>>>> > > > > 2013 at 9:28 AM, Joey 4712 <4712.joey at gmail.com> >>>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> Let's see what the future will bring :-) I'm >>>>> > > > > also not quite sure what color would be >>>>> better >>>>> > > > > or how to improve this. Maybe it has to >>>>> be >>>>> > > > > grey, but grey isn't easy as well, >>>>> especially >>>>> > > > > if you come to a point where you have >>>>> three or >>>>> > > > > for different kinds of grey. Maybe think >>>>> about >>>>> > > > > a different solution? Highlighting own >>>>> > > > > messages by using some icon or arrow? >>>>> Only >>>>> > > > > highlight the header with the labels? I >>>>> don't >>>>> > > > > know.... How does Apple Mail display the >>>>> own >>>>> > > > > messages in the threaded view? Joey On >>>>> Di, 2. >>>>> > > > > Jul, 2013 um 6:20 , Jim Nelson >>>>> >>>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > Hey Joey -- We tried out a few color >>>>> > > > > schemes and weren't satisfied >>>>> with any >>>>> > > > > of them. I had a concern working >>>>> > > > > through it that the problem was >>>>> that I >>>>> > > > > was not used to the colors at all >>>>> > > > > (I've been using Geary for some >>>>> time >>>>> > > > > now) and wanted to try them on >>>>> for >>>>> > > > > size, so to speak. That said, I'm >>>>> > > > > still not entirely happy with it >>>>> and >>>>> > > > > plan on revisiting the issue s >>>>> From brunogirin at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 10:12:56 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 11:12:56 +0100 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Jim, Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have Geary open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan that then stays on constantly. Bruno On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: > I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How long > does the CPU spike last? > > Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to > geary at yorba.org? > > -- Jim > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > > Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the > system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see > attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning > front? Cheers, Bruno > > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From jim at yorba.org Sun Jul 7 03:25:53 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 03:18:53 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> Hi Bruno, I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I have a somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that polls for changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited notifications of flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one error that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as smooths the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know if it solves your problem! -- Jim On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Jim, > > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have > Geary open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top > of the process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the > CPU fan that then stays on constantly. > > Bruno > > > > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How >> long does the CPU spike last? >> >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >> geary at yorba.org? >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the >>> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column >>> (see attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance >>> tuning front? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Bruno > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From fedelogy at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 17:02:19 2013 From: fedelogy at gmail.com (Federico Bruni) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 19:02:19 +0200 Subject: [Geary] Geary on portable devices (android and similar) Message-ID: Hi I'm wondering if Geary could be ever ported to Android or other mobile environments (like Firefox OS). I couldn't find any previous request on the tracker or in the archive of this mailing list. I know that geary is still in early development, but I like it much that I would like to see it running also on my Android device one day. I think that there's no open source email client supporting conversations in the Android world. The unique option is Gmail app. Regards Federico From rschroll at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 19:32:58 2013 From: rschroll at gmail.com (Robert Schroll) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:28:58 -0004 Subject: [Geary] Geary on portable devices (android and similar) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51df086b.4287e00a.1690.388b@mx.google.com> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > I'm wondering if Geary could be ever ported to Android or other mobile > environments (like Firefox OS). > I'm no expert on this, so take what I say with a grain of salt. First of all, the Geary UI is probably not one you'd want for your mobile device, so it'd have to be rewritten. That's not such a bad thing -- Geary is carefully separated between the UI and the engine that's responsible for receiving, storing, organizing, and sending emails. So by design, it should be possible to take this engine and design a more mobile-friendly UI on top of it. That's the good news. The bad news is that Geary is written in Vala and uses the GObject system. Vala does compile to C, so we don't necessarily need a Vala compiler for the target system, but the target system will need to handle the GObject system. As I understand it, Firefox OS apps are just HTML and Javascript, so I don't think you'd be able to get the Geary engine running on it as a standard app. Android apps are written in Java, and there are Java bindings for GObjectIntrospection (https://wiki.gnome.org/JGIR), so there's a possibility of running the engine on Android. But an app would have to include the engine compiled as native code, and I don't know if this is possible. If it is, it may not be permitted in the official app stores. The best chance would probably be through Ubuntu's not-vaporware-this-time-we-promise phone. I think there's a standard linux base, so the engine should run just fine. Connecting this engine to the UI may be more of a problem -- after telling everyone to write Ubuntu apps in GTK (as Geary is), they've switched course and are requiring (I think?) Ubuntu phone apps to be written in Qt. On this tangent: I've noticed that the email app is the one core Ubuntu phone app that doesn't seem to be making any progress. I wonder if Yorba could get a contract to work on this, using the Geary engine as a base.... And since I know even less about this, I'll shut up now. Robert From jdiggs at igalia.com Sat Jul 13 12:46:45 2013 From: jdiggs at igalia.com (Joanmarie Diggs) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 08:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Geary] Where did my saved mail go? Message-ID: <51E14C35.10202@igalia.com> Hi all. I decided to give Geary a try with my work email account. One of my mail folders had several months worth of important saved messages in it. Nearly all of those messages are now gone. I was hoping that Geary was simply not displaying them (freedom from distraction, only display active conversations, etc.). But I just looked in my Maildir on the server, and the missing messages are indeed gone. I would really (really, really) like those messages back. So.... Where did Geary put them and how can I restore them? Thanks in advance. --joanie From brunogirin at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 18:03:33 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:04:33 +0001 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> Hi Jim, It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be due to the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 different in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! Bruno On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: > Hi Bruno, > > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I > have a somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem > you're describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher > that polls for changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide > unsolicited notifications of flag changes). In the recent IMAP > rework I introduced an off-by-one error that pulled the oldest > email's flag in a loop. > > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as > smooths the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let > me know if it solves your problem! > > -- Jim > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin > wrote: >> Jim, >> >> Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have >> Geary open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top >> of the process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the >> CPU fan that then stays on constantly. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >>> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). >>> How long does the CPU spike last? >>> >>> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >>> geary at yorba.org? >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >>> wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the >>>> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column >>>> (see attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the >>>> performance tuning front? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bruno >> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From brunogirin at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 18:05:55 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:06:55 +0001 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down to 0 so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I tell you for sure. Bruno On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Hi Jim, > > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be > due to the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination > of 3 different in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it > through valgrind. Although finding time may not happen this side of > Christmas! > > Bruno > > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: >> Hi Bruno, >> >> I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I >> have a somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem >> you're describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher >> that polls for changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide >> unsolicited notifications of flag changes). In the recent IMAP >> rework I introduced an off-by-one error that pulled the oldest >> email's flag in a loop. >> >> I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as >> smooths the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and >> let me know if it solves your problem! >> >> -- Jim >> >> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin >> wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have >>> Geary open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top >>> of the process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger >>> the CPU fan that then stays on constantly. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >>>> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). >>>> How long does the CPU spike last? >>>> >>>> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send >>>> to geary at yorba.org? >>>> >>>> -- Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the >>>>> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column >>>>> (see attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the >>>>> performance tuning front? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Bruno >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno >>> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From jim at yorba.org Mon Jul 15 18:12:14 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:05:14 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Where did my saved mail go? In-Reply-To: <51E14C35.10202@igalia.com> References: <51E14C35.10202@igalia.com> Message-ID: <51e43b82.c3b6420a.3bcf.fffffa02@mx.google.com> Hi Joanie, I don't know why your mail is gone, as we know of no bugs in Geary of it deleting messages inappropriately. If the mail is available on your local machine, Geary stores it in a local database in ~/.local/share/geary//geary.db. Geary doesn't use mbox or maildir to store mail. What version of Geary are you using? What mail server are you using? (Dovecot, Cyprus, Zimbra, etc.) As I said, we don't know of any Geary bugs of this type. -- Jim On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hi all. > > I decided to give Geary a try with my work email account. One of my > mail > folders had several months worth of important saved messages in it. > Nearly all of those messages are now gone. I was hoping that Geary was > simply not displaying them (freedom from distraction, only display > active conversations, etc.). But I just looked in my Maildir on the > server, and the missing messages are indeed gone. I would really > (really, really) like those messages back. So.... Where did Geary put > them and how can I restore them? > > Thanks in advance. > --joanie > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From brunogirin at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 19:46:59 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:46:59 +0100 Subject: [Geary] Where did my saved mail go? In-Reply-To: <51e43b82.c3b6420a.3bcf.fffffa02@mx.google.com> References: <51E14C35.10202@igalia.com> <51e43b82.c3b6420a.3bcf.fffffa02@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Joanie, Also bear in mind that Geary will only download a small portion of your email: by default it downloads 2 weeks worth of email. So if you set up Geary recently, it is likely that it hasn't downloaded the older emails. You can change that in the account preferences: - Click on the gear icon, top right, - Select "Account": a window with your list of accounts show up, - Select the account you want to change and click on the pencil icon: preferences for that account show up, - Change the "download mail" dropdown to a different value. Cheers, Bruno On 15 July 2013 19:12, Jim Nelson wrote: > Hi Joanie, > > I don't know why your mail is gone, as we know of no bugs in Geary of it > deleting messages inappropriately. > > If the mail is available on your local machine, Geary stores it in a local > database in ~/.local/share/geary//geary.db. Geary doesn't > use mbox or maildir to store mail. > > What version of Geary are you using? What mail server are you using? > (Dovecot, Cyprus, Zimbra, etc.) As I said, we don't know of any Geary > bugs of this type. > > -- Jim > > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Joanmarie Diggs > wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I decided to give Geary a try with my work email account. One of my mail >> folders had several months worth of important saved messages in it. >> Nearly all of those messages are now gone. I was hoping that Geary was >> simply not displaying them (freedom from distraction, only display >> active conversations, etc.). But I just looked in my Maildir on the >> server, and the missing messages are indeed gone. I would really >> (really, really) like those messages back. So.... Where did Geary put >> them and how can I restore them? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> --joanie >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From jim at yorba.org Mon Jul 15 19:51:38 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:44:38 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Geary on portable devices (android and similar) In-Reply-To: <51df086b.4287e00a.1690.388b@mx.google.com> References: <51df086b.4287e00a.1690.388b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51e452cc.61ab440a.53b8.ffffe8e3@mx.google.com> Hi Federico, I've little to add to Robert's thorough answer. Porting Geary to other platforms is something we've considered, and as Robert noted, we've worked hard to keep the mail-processing back-end separate from the UI code. One of our coders (Eric Gregory) has even made some progress on his own time on a Mac port of Geary: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6668 We are a small shop and a porting project to another platform is a significant chunk of work, even if we can can move the Geary engine to it. We're always evaluating new directions, however, so I would never rule it out. -- Jim On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Robert Schroll wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Federico Bruni > wrote: >> I'm wondering if Geary could be ever ported to Android or other >> mobile >> environments (like Firefox OS). >> >> > I'm no expert on this, so take what I say with a grain of salt. > > First of all, the Geary UI is probably not one you'd want for your > mobile device, so it'd have to be rewritten. That's not such a bad > thing -- Geary is carefully separated between the UI and the engine > that's responsible for receiving, storing, organizing, and sending > emails. So by design, it should be possible to take this engine and > design a more mobile-friendly UI on top of it. That's the good news. > > The bad news is that Geary is written in Vala and uses the GObject > system. Vala does compile to C, so we don't necessarily need a Vala > compiler for the target system, but the target system will need to > handle the GObject system. As I understand it, Firefox OS apps are > just HTML and Javascript, so I don't think you'd be able to get the > Geary engine running on it as a standard app. Android apps are > written in Java, and there are Java bindings for GObjectIntrospection > (https://wiki.gnome.org/JGIR), so there's a possibility of running > the engine on Android. But an app would have to include the engine > compiled as native code, and I don't know if this is possible. If it > is, it may not be permitted in the official app stores. > > The best chance would probably be through Ubuntu's > not-vaporware-this-time-we-promise phone. I think there's a standard > linux base, so the engine should run just fine. Connecting this > engine to the UI may be more of a problem -- after telling everyone > to write Ubuntu apps in GTK (as Geary is), they've switched course > and are requiring (I think?) Ubuntu phone apps to be written in Qt. > > On this tangent: I've noticed that the email app is the one core > Ubuntu phone app that doesn't seem to be making any progress. I > wonder if Yorba could get a contract to work on this, using the Geary > engine as a base.... > > And since I know even less about this, I'll shut up now. > > Robert > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From fedelogy at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 21:31:49 2013 From: fedelogy at gmail.com (Federico Bruni) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:31:49 +0200 Subject: [Geary] Geary on portable devices (android and similar) In-Reply-To: <51e452cc.61ab440a.53b8.ffffe8e3@mx.google.com> References: <51df086b.4287e00a.1690.388b@mx.google.com> <51e452cc.61ab440a.53b8.ffffe8e3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim and Robert thank you both for your replies. Sure, I'm aware that you are a small team and you have higher priorities (well, Geary 1.0 in Gnome is also my priority as a user :-)), but it's good to know that this port may happen some day. "Walking on the tangent", here's the wiki page for Ubuntu phone email client: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/EmailClient 2013/7/15 Jim Nelson > Hi Federico, > > I've little to add to Robert's thorough answer. Porting Geary to other > platforms is something we've considered, and as Robert noted, we've worked > hard to keep the mail-processing back-end separate from the UI code. One > of our coders (Eric Gregory) has even made some progress on his own time on > a Mac port of Geary: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6668 > > We are a small shop and a porting project to another platform is a > significant chunk of work, even if we can can move the Geary engine to it. > We're always evaluating new directions, however, so I would never rule it > out. > > -- Jim > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Robert Schroll > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Federico Bruni > wrote: > > I'm wondering if Geary could be ever ported to Android or other mobile > environments (like Firefox OS). > > I'm no expert on this, so take what I say with a grain of salt. First of > all, the Geary UI is probably not one you'd want for your mobile device, so > it'd have to be rewritten. That's not such a bad thing -- Geary is > carefully separated between the UI and the engine that's responsible for > receiving, storing, organizing, and sending emails. So by design, it should > be possible to take this engine and design a more mobile-friendly UI on top > of it. That's the good news. The bad news is that Geary is written in Vala > and uses the GObject system. Vala does compile to C, so we don't > necessarily need a Vala compiler for the target system, but the target > system will need to handle the GObject system. As I understand it, Firefox > OS apps are just HTML and Javascript, so I don't think you'd be able to get > the Geary engine running on it as a standard app. Android apps are written > in Java, and there are Java bindings for GObjectIntrospection ( > https://wiki.gnome.org/JGIR), so there's a possibility of running the > engine on Android. But an app would have to include the engine compiled as > native code, and I don't know if this is possible. If it is, it may not be > permitted in the official app stores. The best chance would probably be > through Ubuntu's not-vaporware-this-time-we-promise phone. I think there's > a standard linux base, so the engine should run just fine. Connecting this > engine to the UI may be more of a problem -- after telling everyone to > write Ubuntu apps in GTK (as Geary is), they've switched course and are > requiring (I think?) Ubuntu phone apps to be written in Qt. On this > tangent: I've noticed that the email app is the one core Ubuntu phone app > that doesn't seem to be making any progress. I wonder if Yorba could get a > contract to work on this, using the Geary engine as a base.... And since I > know even less about this, I'll shut up now. Robert > _______________________________________________ Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > From ragsrutherford at gmail.com Fri Jul 19 12:00:59 2013 From: ragsrutherford at gmail.com (Matthew Scown) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:02:59 +0002 Subject: [Geary] Installing a patch Message-ID: <51e92a83.0a0fcd0a.78e6.2711@mx.google.com> Hi, I want to implement the following patch: http://redmine.yorba.org/attachments/1801/0001-Use-the-system-s-document-font-for-e-mail-bodies.patch but I can't work out how to do it or where the relevant files are located. Also is there any plan to enable Geary to use all locally installed fonts? Thx Matthew From jim at yorba.org Fri Jul 19 18:29:58 2013 From: jim at yorba.org (Jim Nelson) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:22:58 -0007 Subject: [Geary] Installing a patch In-Reply-To: <51e92a83.0a0fcd0a.78e6.2711@mx.google.com> References: <51e92a83.0a0fcd0a.78e6.2711@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <51e985a5.e3fa420a.1a5d.4fb9@mx.google.com> We definitely want to fulfill this ticket, it's just a matter of when. As far as using this patch, you'll need to pull Geary from our git repo and apply the patch ("git apply" should do the job). For more information on building Geary, go here: http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/geary/wiki#Building-38-Running -- Jim On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Matthew Scown wrote: > Hi, > > I want to implement the following patch: > > http://redmine.yorba.org/attachments/1801/0001-Use-the-system-s-document-font-for-e-mail-bodies.patch > > but I can't work out how to do it or where the relevant files are > located. > > Also is there any plan to enable Geary to use all locally installed > fonts? > > Thx > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary From shu.hikari at gmail.com Fri Jul 19 19:30:13 2013 From: shu.hikari at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9dipo_Maciel?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:30:13 -0300 Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature Message-ID: Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make this sign below Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI * Auditore Solu??es * www.auditore.com.br +55 31 3454 8073 +55 31 8411 3906 From eric at yorba.org Fri Jul 19 19:37:26 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Edipo, Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 - Eric On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel wrote: > Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? > > I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make > this sign below > > > Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] > > > *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* > > Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI > * > Auditore Solu??es > > * > www.auditore.com.br > > +55 31 > 3454 8073 > +55 31 8411 3906 > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From thinkndev at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 17:32:29 2013 From: thinkndev at gmail.com (John Kim) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:32:29 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51EAC9AD.9000608@gmail.com> On Fri 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 PM PDT, Eric Gregory wrote: > Hi Edipo, > > Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: > http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 > > - Eric > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel wrote: > >> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >> >> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make >> this sign below >> >> >> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >> >> >> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >> >> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >> * >> Auditore Solu??es >> >> * >> www.auditore.com.br >> >> +55 31 >> 3454 8073 >> +55 31 8411 3906 >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > I really care about this feature too. I hope we see it implemented soon. -- John Kim Ubuntu User #35405 thinkndev at gmail.com From shu.hikari at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 19:19:18 2013 From: shu.hikari at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9dipo_Maciel?=) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:19:18 -0300 Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature In-Reply-To: <51EAC9AD.9000608@gmail.com> References: <51EAC9AD.9000608@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh thank you for the answer. I really want to see this feature :D *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI * Auditore Solu??es * www.auditore.com.br +55 31 3454 8073 +55 31 8411 3906 On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM, John Kim wrote: > On Fri 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 PM PDT, Eric Gregory wrote: > >> Hi Edipo, >> >> Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: >> http://redmine.yorba.org/**issues/5458 >> >> - Eric >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel >> wrote: >> >> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >>> >>> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make >>> this sign below >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >>> >>> >>> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >>> >>> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >>> * >>> Auditore Solu??es >>> >>> * >>> www.auditore.com.br >>> >>> +55 31 >>> 3454 8073 >>> +55 31 8411 3906 >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-**bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> >> > I really care about this feature too. I hope we see it implemented soon. > > -- > John Kim > Ubuntu User #35405 > thinkndev at gmail.com > > From pculbreth at zoho.com Sun Jul 21 01:52:24 2013 From: pculbreth at zoho.com (Patrick Culbreth) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:52:24 -0400 Subject: [Geary] Geary Digest, Vol 18, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll wait for contacts feature. it's a buatie mail client. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:00:01 -0400, wrote: > Send Geary mailing list submissions to > geary at lists.yorba.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > geary-request at lists.yorba.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > geary-owner at lists.yorba.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Geary digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mail Signature (?dipo Maciel) > 2. Re: Mail Signature (Eric Gregory) > 3. Re: Mail Signature (John Kim) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:30:13 -0300 > From: ?dipo Maciel > To: geary at lists.yorba.org > Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? > > I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make > this sign below > > > Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] > > > *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* > > Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI > * > Auditore Solu??es > * > www.auditore.com.br > > +55 31 > 3454 8073 > +55 31 8411 3906 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 -0700 > From: Eric Gregory > To: ?dipo Maciel > Cc: geary > Subject: Re: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Edipo, > > Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: > http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 > > - Eric > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel > wrote: > >> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >> >> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to >> make >> this sign below >> >> >> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >> >> >> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >> >> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >> * >> Auditore Solu??es >> >> * >> www.auditore.com.br >> >> +55 31 >> 3454 8073 >> +55 31 8411 3906 >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:32:29 -0700 > From: John Kim > To: Eric Gregory > Cc: ?dipo Maciel , geary > Subject: Re: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: <51EAC9AD.9000608 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On Fri 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 PM PDT, Eric Gregory wrote: >> Hi Edipo, >> >> Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: >> http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 >> >> - Eric >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel >> wrote: >> >>> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >>> >>> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to >>> make >>> this sign below >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >>> >>> >>> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >>> >>> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >>> * >>> Auditore Solu??es >>> >>> * >>> www.auditore.com.br >>> >>> +55 31 >>> 3454 8073 >>> +55 31 8411 3906 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > I really care about this feature too. I hope we see it implemented > soon. > > -- > John Kim > Ubuntu User #35405 > thinkndev at gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > > End of Geary Digest, Vol 18, Issue 15 > ************************************* -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From pculbreth at zoho.com Sun Jul 21 01:52:26 2013 From: pculbreth at zoho.com (Patrick Culbreth) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:52:26 -0400 Subject: [Geary] Geary Digest, Vol 18, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thnks. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:00:01 -0400, wrote: > Send Geary mailing list submissions to > geary at lists.yorba.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > geary-request at lists.yorba.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > geary-owner at lists.yorba.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Geary digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mail Signature (?dipo Maciel) > 2. Re: Mail Signature (Eric Gregory) > 3. Re: Mail Signature (John Kim) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:30:13 -0300 > From: ?dipo Maciel > To: geary at lists.yorba.org > Subject: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? > > I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to make > this sign below > > > Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] > > > *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* > > Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI > * > Auditore Solu??es > * > www.auditore.com.br > > +55 31 > 3454 8073 > +55 31 8411 3906 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 -0700 > From: Eric Gregory > To: ?dipo Maciel > Cc: geary > Subject: Re: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Edipo, > > Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: > http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 > > - Eric > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel > wrote: > >> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >> >> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to >> make >> this sign below >> >> >> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >> >> >> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >> >> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >> * >> Auditore Solu??es >> >> * >> www.auditore.com.br >> >> +55 31 >> 3454 8073 >> +55 31 8411 3906 >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:32:29 -0700 > From: John Kim > To: Eric Gregory > Cc: ?dipo Maciel , geary > Subject: Re: [Geary] Mail Signature > Message-ID: <51EAC9AD.9000608 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On Fri 19 Jul 2013 12:37:26 PM PDT, Eric Gregory wrote: >> Hi Edipo, >> >> Not at this time. We have a ticket for this feature here: >> http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5458 >> >> - Eric >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ?dipo Maciel >> wrote: >> >>> Is there a way of use a mail signature on Geary? >>> >>> I was thinking in something like "sign.html" with some html tags to >>> make >>> this sign below >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance [I googled but didin't found a workaround] >>> >>> >>> *EDIPO MACIEL BENTO ROSA* >>> >>> Desenvolvedor / Designer / Analista de Suporte em TI >>> * >>> Auditore Solu??es >>> >>> * >>> www.auditore.com.br >>> >>> +55 31 >>> 3454 8073 >>> +55 31 8411 3906 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > I really care about this feature too. I hope we see it implemented > soon. > > -- > John Kim > Ubuntu User #35405 > thinkndev at gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > > > End of Geary Digest, Vol 18, Issue 15 > ************************************* -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From brunogirin at gmail.com Mon Jul 22 23:59:31 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 00:59:31 +0100 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Now that I've had time to play with Geary a bit more (built from trunk), I can confirm that there is still a major performance problem. On my laptop, Geary makes Thunderbird look fast, especially when changing folder selection. It also uses enough CPU to force the fan on all the time. Considering the laptop in question is a Core i5 with 8GB RAM and SSD storage and is connected to fibre broadband, it is unlikely to be due to resource constraints. So as my setup looks like it triggers issues with Geary, is there anything I can do to narrow down the reason why I see such poor performance so that I can file a sensible bug report? Valgrind? Cheers, Bruno On 15 July 2013 19:05, Bruno Girin wrote: > Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down to 0 > so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I tell > you for sure. > > Bruno > > > On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be due to > the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 different > in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. > Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! > > Bruno > > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I have a > somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're > describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that polls for > changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited notifications of > flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one error > that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. > > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as smooths > the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know if it > solves your problem! > > -- Jim > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > > Jim, > > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have Geary > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan that > then stays on constantly. > > Bruno > > > > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: > >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How long >> does the CPU spike last? >> >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >> geary at yorba.org? >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and the >> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see >> attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning >> front? Cheers, Bruno >> >> > > > -- > Bruno > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com > > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From eric at yorba.org Tue Jul 23 00:10:38 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:10:38 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Bruno, you might check out this ticket, it sounds suspiciously similar to what you're seeing: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7238 - Eric On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Now that I've had time to play with Geary a bit more (built from trunk), I > can confirm that there is still a major performance problem. On my laptop, > Geary makes Thunderbird look fast, especially when changing folder > selection. It also uses enough CPU to force the fan on all the time. > Considering the laptop in question is a Core i5 with 8GB RAM and SSD > storage and is connected to fibre broadband, it is unlikely to be due to > resource constraints. > > So as my setup looks like it triggers issues with Geary, is there anything > I can do to narrow down the reason why I see such poor performance so that > I can file a sensible bug report? Valgrind? > > Cheers, > > Bruno > > > > On 15 July 2013 19:05, Bruno Girin wrote: > > > Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down to 0 > > so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I tell > > you for sure. > > > > Bruno > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin > wrote: > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be due > to > > the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 > different > > in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. > > Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! > > > > Bruno > > > > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: > > > > Hi Bruno, > > > > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I have a > > somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're > > describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that polls > for > > changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited notifications > of > > flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one > error > > that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. > > > > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as > smooths > > the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know if > it > > solves your problem! > > > > -- Jim > > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin > wrote: > > > > Jim, > > > > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have Geary > > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the > > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan > that > > then stays on constantly. > > > > Bruno > > > > > > > > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: > > > >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How > long > >> does the CPU spike last? > >> > >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to > >> geary at yorba.org? > >> > >> -- Jim > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and > the > >> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see > >> attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning > >> front? Cheers, Bruno > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Bruno > > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com > > > > > > > -- > Bruno > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > Geary mailing list > Geary at lists.yorba.org > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary > From brunogirin at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 06:59:54 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:59:54 +0100 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Eric, Yes, that sounds exactly like the issue I have. As I can reproduce it, is there anything I can do to help debug it? Bruno On 23 July 2013 01:10, Eric Gregory wrote: > Bruno, you might check out this ticket, it sounds suspiciously similar to > what you're seeing: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7238 > > - Eric > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Now that I've had time to play with Geary a bit more (built from trunk), I >> can confirm that there is still a major performance problem. On my laptop, >> Geary makes Thunderbird look fast, especially when changing folder >> selection. It also uses enough CPU to force the fan on all the time. >> Considering the laptop in question is a Core i5 with 8GB RAM and SSD >> storage and is connected to fibre broadband, it is unlikely to be due to >> resource constraints. >> >> So as my setup looks like it triggers issues with Geary, is there anything >> I can do to narrow down the reason why I see such poor performance so that >> I can file a sensible bug report? Valgrind? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> On 15 July 2013 19:05, Bruno Girin wrote: >> >> > Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down to 0 >> > so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I tell >> > you for sure. >> > >> > Bruno >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Jim, >> > >> > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be due >> to >> > the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 >> different >> > in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. >> > Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! >> > >> > Bruno >> > >> > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: >> > >> > Hi Bruno, >> > >> > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I have a >> > somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're >> > describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that polls >> for >> > changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited >> notifications of >> > flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one >> error >> > that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. >> > >> > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as >> smooths >> > the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know >> if it >> > solves your problem! >> > >> > -- Jim >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin >> wrote: >> > >> > Jim, >> > >> > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have >> Geary >> > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the >> > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan >> that >> > then stays on constantly. >> > >> > Bruno >> > >> > >> > >> > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >> > >> >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How >> long >> >> does the CPU spike last? >> >> >> >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >> >> geary at yorba.org? >> >> >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and >> the >> >> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see >> >> attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning >> >> front? Cheers, Bruno >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Bruno >> > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Bruno >> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Geary mailing list >> Geary at lists.yorba.org >> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >> > > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From eric at yorba.org Wed Jul 24 18:21:06 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:21:06 -0700 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Not for the moment. Jim's been working on a patch for that issue, so as soon as that lands we could use some help testing. - Eric On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > Eric, > > Yes, that sounds exactly like the issue I have. As I can reproduce it, is > there anything I can do to help debug it? > > Bruno > > > > On 23 July 2013 01:10, Eric Gregory wrote: > >> Bruno, you might check out this ticket, it sounds suspiciously similar to >> what you're seeing: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7238 >> >> - Eric >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: >> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> Now that I've had time to play with Geary a bit more (built from trunk), >>> I >>> can confirm that there is still a major performance problem. On my >>> laptop, >>> Geary makes Thunderbird look fast, especially when changing folder >>> selection. It also uses enough CPU to force the fan on all the time. >>> Considering the laptop in question is a Core i5 with 8GB RAM and SSD >>> storage and is connected to fibre broadband, it is unlikely to be due to >>> resource constraints. >>> >>> So as my setup looks like it triggers issues with Geary, is there >>> anything >>> I can do to narrow down the reason why I see such poor performance so >>> that >>> I can file a sensible bug report? Valgrind? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15 July 2013 19:05, Bruno Girin wrote: >>> >>> > Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down to >>> 0 >>> > so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I >>> tell >>> > you for sure. >>> > >>> > Bruno >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Jim, >>> > >>> > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be >>> due to >>> > the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 >>> different >>> > in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. >>> > Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! >>> > >>> > Bruno >>> > >>> > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Bruno, >>> > >>> > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I have >>> a >>> > somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're >>> > describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that polls >>> for >>> > changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited >>> notifications of >>> > flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one >>> error >>> > that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. >>> > >>> > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as >>> smooths >>> > the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know >>> if it >>> > solves your problem! >>> > >>> > -- Jim >>> > >>> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Jim, >>> > >>> > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have >>> Geary >>> > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the >>> > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan >>> that >>> > then stays on constantly. >>> > >>> > Bruno >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >>> > >>> >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How >>> long >>> >> does the CPU spike last? >>> >> >>> >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >>> >> geary at yorba.org? >>> >> >>> >> -- Jim >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring and >>> the >>> >> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see >>> >> attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning >>> >> front? Cheers, Bruno >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Bruno >>> > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno >>> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geary mailing list >>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>> >> >> > > > -- > Bruno > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com > From brunogirin at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 10:43:05 2013 From: brunogirin at gmail.com (Bruno Girin) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:43:05 +0100 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> <51d8dfc5.49f4440a.68e7.6691@mx.google.com> <51e43978.a3b9b40a.558e.3922@mx.google.com> <51e43a06.0855b40a.3e28.4d46@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Eric, I'll happily help testing when it's landed. In addition, it looks like I am suffering from another issue that exacerbates the problem: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7284 Bruno On 24 July 2013 19:21, Eric Gregory wrote: > Not for the moment. Jim's been working on a patch for that issue, so as > soon as that lands we could use some help testing. > > - Eric > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> Yes, that sounds exactly like the issue I have. As I can reproduce it, is >> there anything I can do to help debug it? >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> On 23 July 2013 01:10, Eric Gregory wrote: >> >>> Bruno, you might check out this ticket, it sounds suspiciously similar >>> to what you're seeing: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/7238 >>> >>> - Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jim, >>>> >>>> Now that I've had time to play with Geary a bit more (built from >>>> trunk), I >>>> can confirm that there is still a major performance problem. On my >>>> laptop, >>>> Geary makes Thunderbird look fast, especially when changing folder >>>> selection. It also uses enough CPU to force the fan on all the time. >>>> Considering the laptop in question is a Core i5 with 8GB RAM and SSD >>>> storage and is connected to fibre broadband, it is unlikely to be due to >>>> resource constraints. >>>> >>>> So as my setup looks like it triggers issues with Geary, is there >>>> anything >>>> I can do to narrow down the reason why I see such poor performance so >>>> that >>>> I can file a sensible bug report? Valgrind? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 July 2013 19:05, Bruno Girin wrote: >>>> >>>> > Typical: just as I sent this email, my Geary CPU usage dropped down >>>> to 0 >>>> > so it may yet have solved it. I will experiment a bit more before I >>>> tell >>>> > you for sure. >>>> > >>>> > Bruno >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, 15 Jul, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Bruno Girin >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Jim, >>>> > >>>> > It doesn't seem to have solved the problem for me. This may also be >>>> due to >>>> > the large number of email I tend to receive in a combination of 3 >>>> different >>>> > in-boxes. When I have the time, I may try to run it through valgrind. >>>> > Although finding time may not happen this side of Christmas! >>>> > >>>> > Bruno >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, 7 Jul, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Jim Nelson wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Bruno, >>>> > >>>> > I started watching Geary and my system a little closer at home (I >>>> have a >>>> > somewhat low-powered machine at home) and spotted the problem you're >>>> > describing -- I think. Essentially, there's a flag watcher that >>>> polls for >>>> > changes to email's flags (IMAP doesn't provide unsolicited >>>> notifications of >>>> > flag changes). In the recent IMAP rework I introduced an off-by-one >>>> error >>>> > that pulled the oldest email's flag in a loop. >>>> > >>>> > I've pushed a change to master that solves this problem as well as >>>> smooths >>>> > the delay between flag pulls. Please pull the latest and let me know >>>> if it >>>> > solves your problem! >>>> > >>>> > -- Jim >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Girin >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Jim, >>>> > >>>> > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have >>>> Geary >>>> > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the >>>> > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan >>>> that >>>> > then stays on constantly. >>>> > >>>> > Bruno >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 3 July 2013 18:18, Jim Nelson wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I assume you're running out of master (or our Daily Build PPA). How >>>> long >>>> >> does the CPU spike last? >>>> >> >>>> >> Also, our mailing list doesn't take attachments. Could you send to >>>> >> geary at yorba.org? >>>> >> >>>> >> -- Jim >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bruno Girin >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi all, Every time I start Geary, my laptop's fan starts whirring >>>> and the >>>> >> system monitor shows Geary shooting to the top of the CPU column (see >>>> >> attached screenshot). Is anything happening on the performance tuning >>>> >> front? Cheers, Bruno >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Bruno >>>> > Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruno >>>> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Geary mailing list >>>> Geary at lists.yorba.org >>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bruno >> Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com >> > > -- Bruno Visit my weblog: http://brunogirin.blogspot.com From auguste at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 04:53:26 2013 From: auguste at gmail.com (Auguste Pop) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:53:26 +0800 Subject: [Geary] How to recover password from an account? Message-ID: Hi, I want to recover my email password from geary. I found some folders in ~/.local/cache/geary, but I can not find some configuration file with the password. Is it possible to recover password from geary? Best Regards, From fedelogy at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 05:15:09 2013 From: fedelogy at gmail.com (Federico Bruni) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:15:09 +0200 Subject: [Geary] How to recover password from an account? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2013/7/30 Auguste Pop > Hi, > > I want to recover my email password from geary. I found some folders in > ~/.local/cache/geary, but I can not find some configuration file with the > password. > > Is it possible to recover password from geary? > The password is stored in gnome-keyring. You can use Seahorse to search it From auguste at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 05:29:35 2013 From: auguste at gmail.com (Auguste Pop) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:29:35 +0800 Subject: [Geary] How can I delete mails stuck in Outbox Message-ID: Hi, I have several mails stuck in Outbox of a gmail account. They are not on the gmail server last time I checked. I guess the Outbox being a local queue for out-going mails. I'd like to delete those mails. But the delete button is grayed out, and pressing Delete on keyboard does not help either. Is there anyway I can do it? Best Regards, From fedelogy at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 05:54:17 2013 From: fedelogy at gmail.com (Federico Bruni) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:54:17 +0200 Subject: [Geary] Geary performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d45a50.c4730e0a.70b1.5ceb@mx.google.com> <51d45cdf.2692420a.36e9.157d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: 2013/7/6 Bruno Girin > Yes, I'm running from master. The spike lasts for as long as I have Geary > open. The attachment just showed the geary process at the top of the > process list using 30%-odd CPU. This is enough to trigger the CPU fan that > then stays on constantly. > I'm having the same issue. git master a2546b5231ebf88bc5a23af158cc5cd231bcccb1 From eric at yorba.org Tue Jul 30 18:26:46 2013 From: eric at yorba.org (Eric Gregory) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:26:46 -0700 Subject: [Geary] How can I delete mails stuck in Outbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Auguste Pop wrote: > Hi, > > I have several mails stuck in Outbox of a gmail account. They are not on > the gmail server last time I checked. I guess the Outbox being a local > queue for out-going mails. I'd like to delete those mails. But the delete > button is grayed out, and pressing Delete on keyboard does not help either. > > Is there anyway I can do it? > Hi Auguste, At the current time there's no supported way to remove messages "stuck" in the outbox. Also, Geary currently does not display an error when a message is unable to be sent. Both of these are planned for the future. For more info, see the following tickets: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6797 http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6200 Now that said, the outbox is stored in Geary's database in ~/.local/share/geary/[account]/geary.db If you delete the database, the outbox goes with it; but keep in mind you'll have to re-sync a lot of messages next time you start Geary. - Eric