MBDSYS has an openwource implementation of a server compatible with openwengo tunneling protocol <a href="http://www.mbdsys.fr/opensource/htproxy/">http://www.mbdsys.fr/opensource/htproxy/</a> hhtp headers are modified to specify the udp destination. we maybe could give a try ? I guess this only could be used on the ekiga platform by few people , but as the <a href="http://ekiga.net">ekiga.net</a> platform is hosted by 9T I guess bandwidth is not a problem ? <div>2007/7/21, yannick <<a href="mailto:sevmek@free.fr">sevmek@free.fr</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Le samedi 21 juillet 2007 à 16:31 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit : > > > 2007/7/21, yannick < <a href="mailto:sevmek@free.fr">sevmek@free.fr</a>>: > > Well, as far as I know about this, this is technically a bad > choice for > VoIP as it use TCP for transmitting datas. Theoretically > speaking, > unlike UDP, the TCP module at the far end sends back an > acknowledgement > for packets which have been successfully received; a timer at > the > sending TCP will cause a timeout if an acknowledgement is not > received > within a reasonable round-trip time (or RTT), and the > (presumably) lost > data will then be re-transmitted. > > Thus this will increase delay in the transmission as each > packet will > wait for the acknowledgement. What will happen if one packet > is lost ? > Does wengo workaround this in some way ? > > I wonder how well the http tunnel works for wengo. > > It works Well , and you can even call any sip adress since wengo 2.0, > I understand what you meant about tcp , but microsoft use sip > messaging over TCP and it works well for exemple. the http tunnel > solution is still the only one for http proxy. it's also what google > use for google talk. the point is that wengo http tunnel serve ris not > open source I think. > As far as I understand this technique, it needs a relay server. I highly doubt Ekiga can have the necessary ressource to setup such server. Beside that, it seems they also workaround the TCP protocol using some optimisation. The real problem is NAT has no standard. This leads to this bad situation as described here : <a href="http://www.brynosaurus.com/pub/net/p2pnat/">http://www.brynosaurus.com/pub/net/p2pnat/</a> (I've not finished the reading yet, but this is very interesting to understand the problem IMHO). The good news is the IETF is working on this issue : <a href="http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/behave-charter.html"> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/behave-charter.html</a> But this is still a draft :( This will surely improve. But as now we are stuck... Regards, Yannick > > > > > -- > %<------------------------------------------------------->% > Michel memeteau > VOIP | Visio: <a href="mailto:sip:freechelmi@gizmoproject.com">sip:freechelmi@gizmoproject.com</a> > Fixe : 0491886375 !!! APARTIR du 15/09/2007 -> 0811956494 > Mobile : 0624808051 > jabber/GoogleTalk : <a href="mailto:freechelmi@jabber.fr">freechelmi@jabber.fr</a> > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > <a href="mailto:ekiga-list@gnome.org"> ekiga-list@gnome.org</a> > <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list</a> -- Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? <a href="mailto:sip:yannick@ekiga.net"> sip:yannick@ekiga.net</a> Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : <a href="http://www.ekiga.org">http://www.ekiga.org</a> <a href="http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F">http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F </a> _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list <a href="mailto:ekiga-list@gnome.org">ekiga-list@gnome.org</a> <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list </a></blockquote></div> -- %<------------------------------------------------------->% Michel memeteau VOIP | Visio: <a href="mailto:sip:freechelmi@gizmoproject.com">sip:freechelmi@gizmoproject.com </a> Fixe : 0491886375 !!! APARTIR du 15/09/2007 -> 0811956494 Mobile : 0624808051 jabber/GoogleTalk : <a href="mailto:freechelmi@jabber.fr">freechelmi@jabber.fr</a>