From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu May 2 22:50:29 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 00:50:29 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linux Pratique (in French) magazine about Ekiga 4 Message-ID: <5182EDB5.8090402@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> For your information, the current issue of Linux pratique (French magazine) writes about Ekiga 4: pages 18-20 of http://www.ed-diamond.com/feuille_lpra77/index.html. -- Eugen From dsandras at seconix.com Fri May 3 09:22:04 2013 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 11:22:04 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linux Pratique (in French) magazine about Ekiga 4 In-Reply-To: <5182EDB5.8090402@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <5182EDB5.8090402@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <518381BC.7000408@seconix.com> Do we have a scan ? Le 03/05/13 00:50, Eugen Dedu a ?crit : > For your information, the current issue of Linux pratique (French > magazine) writes about Ekiga 4: pages 18-20 of > http://www.ed-diamond.com/feuille_lpra77/index.html. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri May 3 09:32:57 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 11:32:57 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linux Pratique (in French) magazine about Ekiga 4 In-Reply-To: <518381BC.7000408@seconix.com> References: <5182EDB5.8090402@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <518381BC.7000408@seconix.com> Message-ID: <51838449.2000202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> I have not. I read it directly on the Web page, by increasing the image size :) On 03/05/13 11:22, Damien Sandras wrote: > Do we have a scan ? > > Le 03/05/13 00:50, Eugen Dedu a ?crit : >> For your information, the current issue of Linux pratique (French >> magazine) writes about Ekiga 4: pages 18-20 of >> http://www.ed-diamond.com/feuille_lpra77/index.html. From geo.cherchetout at laposte.net Sat May 4 20:49:11 2013 From: geo.cherchetout at laposte.net (geo cherchetout) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 22:49:11 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga Message-ID: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> Hello, Using Ekiga v.3.9.90 and the line input of his soundcard, and PCMA codec, Foo sends white noise to Bar who receives and records this sound with Linphone v.3.5.99.0. (Recent versions of Linphone make recording easy, the recorded sound being extracted from rtp streams, not from soundcard.) Then, using Audacity, Bar displays the spectrum of the recorded sound. You can see it here: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698438.png Now, the same experiment is made with Foo and Bar using the same Linphone v.3.5.99.0 softphone, and the spectrum is much better as you can see there: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698567.png Perhaps there is something like a wrong equation in Ekiga's or some library's code ? Or this is a feature and not a bug ? I am able to compile Ekiga but not to modify the code by myself... From craigs at postincrement.com Sat May 4 23:18:26 2013 From: craigs at postincrement.com (Craig Southeren) Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 09:18:26 +1000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> References: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> Message-ID: <51859742.9060603@postincrement.com> Thanks for taking the time do this analysis and share the results! The Ekiga output is definitely showing a filtered response. The only filter in the audio chain is the Automatic Echo Cancellation - did you have that enabled when doing the measurements? This would certainly explain the output. Craig On 5/05/2013 6:49 AM, geo cherchetout wrote: > Hello, > > Using Ekiga v.3.9.90 and the line input of his soundcard, and PCMA > codec, Foo sends white noise to Bar who receives and records this sound > with Linphone v.3.5.99.0. (Recent versions of Linphone make recording > easy, the recorded sound being extracted from rtp streams, not from > soundcard.) > Then, using Audacity, Bar displays the spectrum of the recorded sound. > You can see it here: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698438.png > > Now, the same experiment is made with Foo and Bar using the same > Linphone v.3.5.99.0 softphone, and the spectrum is much better as you > can see there: > http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698567.png > > Perhaps there is something like a wrong equation in Ekiga's or some > library's code ? Or this is a feature and not a bug ? > I am able to compile Ekiga but not to modify the code by myself... > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Southeren Post Increment ? VoIP Consulting and Software craigs at postincrement.com.au www.postincrement.com.au Mobile: +61 417231046 G+: craig.southeren at gmail.com US: +1 415 800 4201 MSN: craig_southeren at hotmail.com "Science is the poetry of reality." Richard Dawkins From fred.k at member.fsf.org Sun May 5 02:44:19 2013 From: fred.k at member.fsf.org (fred k) Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 11:44:19 +0900 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> References: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> Message-ID: <5185C783.60505@member.fsf.org> > Using Ekiga v.3.9.90 ... You can see it here: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698438.png My observation: When you (or Ekiga, or the sound card) took samples at 8 kHz and transmit two-sample running average(*) off the stream, you'll get 0.7 dB down at 1 kHz 3.0 dB down at 2 kHz 8.3 dB down at 3 kHz 12.6 dB down at 3.4kHz Fairly close to 1367698438.png but not exact. (*) a+b, b+c, c+d, ... where samples are a,b,c,d,... Another possibility is down-sampling from 44.1kHz sound card but I have no idea how it works. --fred k From geo.cherchetout at laposte.net Sun May 5 08:01:24 2013 From: geo.cherchetout at laposte.net (geo cherchetout) Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 10:01:24 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <5185C783.60505@member.fsf.org> References: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> <5185C783.60505@member.fsf.org> Message-ID: <518611D4.3090101@laposte.net> *fred k* wrote: >> Using Ekiga v.3.9.90 ... You can see it here: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367698438.png > > My observation: > > When you (or Ekiga, or the sound card) took samples at 8 kHz and transmit two-sample running average(*) off the stream, you'll get > 0.7 dB down at 1 kHz > 3.0 dB down at 2 kHz > 8.3 dB down at 3 kHz > 12.6 dB down at 3.4kHz > > Fairly close to 1367698438.png but not exact. Attractive hypothesis! Only developpers know if samples are averaged this way. > > (*) a+b, b+c, c+d, ... where samples are a,b,c,d,... > > Another possibility is down-sampling from 44.1kHz sound card but I have no idea how it works. The "white noise" whas generated at 8000 samples per second in the same way during the two conversations. From binoanb at gmail.com Mon May 6 13:24:59 2013 From: binoanb at gmail.com (Albino B Neto) Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 10:24:59 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Call for video/audio Message-ID: Hi I am newbie here. I live from Brazil. :-) Is possible do call with video and audio, by Ekiga [1] ? Or just audio. 1 - https://www.ekiga.net/index.php?page=services -- Albino B Neto Debian GNU/Linux | FSFLA | Free Software fsfla.org tux-es.org fsf.org gnu.org Chave GPG: 5ED34354 Key fingerprint = 0DFF 4640 44CD 5935 D0F5 E3DF 4E0F A597 5ED3 4354 N?o tenho nenhuma rede social. Privacidade ! Skype ? software n?o-livre (liberdade, negada). Use Ekiga ! From alex.theoto at gmail.com Mon May 6 14:29:58 2013 From: alex.theoto at gmail.com (Alex Theotokatos) Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 17:29:58 +0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Call for video/audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5187BE66.4060103@gmail.com> You can use Ekiga software with or without web camera. All you need is a web camera and a microphone. To setup the camera go to 'Edit' 'Preferences' 'Video devices' On 05/06/2013 04:24 PM, Albino B Neto wrote: > Hi > > I am newbie here. I live from Brazil. :-) > > Is possible do call with video and audio, by Ekiga [1] ? > > Or just audio. > > 1 - https://www.ekiga.net/index.php?page=services > From geo.cherchetout at laposte.net Mon May 6 16:09:13 2013 From: geo.cherchetout at laposte.net (geo cherchetout) Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 18:09:13 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> References: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> Message-ID: <5187D5A9.9070409@laposte.net> Sorry, my records were polluted by an unmuted microphone. To see cleaner spectrums, please look at http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367856298.png for Ekiga and at http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1367856367.png for Linphone (Indeed, the difference is still here.) From binoanb at gmail.com Mon May 6 16:57:58 2013 From: binoanb at gmail.com (Albino B Neto) Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 13:57:58 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Call for video/audio In-Reply-To: <5187BE66.4060103@gmail.com> References: <5187BE66.4060103@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2013/5/6 Alex Theotokatos : > You can use Ekiga software with or without web camera. > All you need is a web camera and a microphone. > > To setup the camera go to 'Edit' 'Preferences' 'Video devices' Thank you. :-) #FreeSoftware -- Albino B Neto Debian GNU/Linux | FSFLA | Free Software fsfla.org tux-es.org fsf.org gnu.org Chave GPG: 5ED34354 Key fingerprint = 0DFF 4640 44CD 5935 D0F5 E3DF 4E0F A597 5ED3 4354 N?o tenho nenhuma rede social. Privacidade ! Skype ? software n?o-livre (liberdade, negada). Use Ekiga ! From geo.cherchetout at laposte.net Tue May 7 19:49:57 2013 From: geo.cherchetout at laposte.net (geo cherchetout) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 21:49:57 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Bad frequency response with Ekiga In-Reply-To: <51859742.9060603@postincrement.com> References: <51857447.6010102@laposte.net> <51859742.9060603@postincrement.com> Message-ID: <51895AE5.40909@laposte.net> Le 05/05/2013 01:18, *Craig Southeren* wrote: > The Ekiga output is definitely showing a filtered response. Today I have made two other tests using Pulseaudio for sending white noise without wire interconnecting soundcards. (The application playing the white noise audio file directly into the softphone capture device.) This time, Ekiga and Linphone give about the same result, as you can see on the attached image. It seems to me that Linphone makes some kind of preemphasis on the audio gotten from soundcard only. 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Does anyone know what is necessary to get Ekiga > working with a SimpleSignal SIP account? > > > > I've managed to get it to technically register with the server, however when > trying to place a call I get a 401 unauthorized error and the call fails. > I'm happy to produce any requested log files, if someone wants to help me > investigate this issue. Indeed, we need the -d 4 log. Have you tried with and without Enable Network Detection (in Preferences)? -- Eugen From ferber.greg at gmail.com Wed May 8 14:06:44 2013 From: ferber.greg at gmail.com (Greg Ferber) Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 07:06:44 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal In-Reply-To: <518A0DD1.50007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <00c101ce4b7c$7216fc60$5644f520$@gmail.com> <518A0DD1.50007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <00ff01ce4bf5$46e3ad80$d4ab0880$@gmail.com> And how does one go about collecting the -d 4 log? I assumed those are the command line parameters with which to launch Ekiga, but once I had done so, I didn't see the log either in the application directory, nor under AppData. Note: I am attempting this on Windows. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:33 AM To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal On 08/05/13 01:41, Greg Ferber wrote: > I've tried to find any documentation at all regarding configuration of > Ekiga to work with SimpleSignal, but unfortunately I've failed at > locating anything so specific. Does anyone know what is necessary to > get Ekiga working with a SimpleSignal SIP account? > > > > I've managed to get it to technically register with the server, > however when trying to place a call I get a 401 unauthorized error and the call fails. > I'm happy to produce any requested log files, if someone wants to help > me investigate this issue. Indeed, we need the -d 4 log. Have you tried with and without Enable Network Detection (in Preferences)? -- Eugen _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed May 8 15:20:09 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 17:20:09 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal In-Reply-To: <00ff01ce4bf5$46e3ad80$d4ab0880$@gmail.com> References: <00c101ce4b7c$7216fc60$5644f520$@gmail.com> <518A0DD1.50007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <00ff01ce4bf5$46e3ad80$d4ab0880$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <518A6D29.20500@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2 On 08/05/13 16:06, Greg Ferber wrote: > And how does one go about collecting the -d 4 log? I assumed those are the > command line parameters with which to launch Ekiga, but once I had done so, > I didn't see the log either in the application directory, nor under AppData. > Note: I am attempting this on Windows. > > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen > Dedu > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:33 AM > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal > > On 08/05/13 01:41, Greg Ferber wrote: >> I've tried to find any documentation at all regarding configuration of >> Ekiga to work with SimpleSignal, but unfortunately I've failed at >> locating anything so specific. Does anyone know what is necessary to >> get Ekiga working with a SimpleSignal SIP account? >> >> >> >> I've managed to get it to technically register with the server, >> however when trying to place a call I get a 401 unauthorized error and the > call fails. >> I'm happy to produce any requested log files, if someone wants to help >> me investigate this issue. > > Indeed, we need the -d 4 log. > > Have you tried with and without Enable Network Detection (in Preferences)? From ferber.greg at gmail.com Wed May 8 15:56:05 2013 From: ferber.greg at gmail.com (Greg Ferber) Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:56:05 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal In-Reply-To: <518A6D29.20500@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <00c101ce4b7c$7216fc60$5644f520$@gmail.com> <518A0DD1.50007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <00ff01ce4bf5$46e3ad80$d4ab0880$@gmail.com> <518A6D29.20500@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <014e01ce4c04$8d5ee630$a81cb290$@gmail.com> Alright, so this is cool. When I run it with the debugger (using gdb, as per the instructions) it works just fine. When I run it by itself, I get the error I originally mentioned. Anyone have any suggestions? -Greg -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:20 AM To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2 On 08/05/13 16:06, Greg Ferber wrote: > And how does one go about collecting the -d 4 log? I assumed those > are the command line parameters with which to launch Ekiga, but once I > had done so, I didn't see the log either in the application directory, nor under AppData. > Note: I am attempting this on Windows. > > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of > Eugen Dedu > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:33 AM > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal > > On 08/05/13 01:41, Greg Ferber wrote: >> I've tried to find any documentation at all regarding configuration >> of Ekiga to work with SimpleSignal, but unfortunately I've failed at >> locating anything so specific. Does anyone know what is necessary to >> get Ekiga working with a SimpleSignal SIP account? >> >> >> >> I've managed to get it to technically register with the server, >> however when trying to place a call I get a 401 unauthorized error >> and the > call fails. >> I'm happy to produce any requested log files, if someone wants to >> help me investigate this issue. > > Indeed, we need the -d 4 log. > > Have you tried with and without Enable Network Detection (in Preferences)? _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed May 8 17:42:50 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 19:42:50 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal In-Reply-To: <014e01ce4c04$8d5ee630$a81cb290$@gmail.com> References: <00c101ce4b7c$7216fc60$5644f520$@gmail.com> <518A0DD1.50007@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <00ff01ce4bf5$46e3ad80$d4ab0880$@gmail.com> <518A6D29.20500@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <014e01ce4c04$8d5ee630$a81cb290$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <518A8E9A.1010409@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> You do not need to run it with gdb. You need to run it with -d 4, cf. the Web page I wrote, and give us the file generated. On 08/05/13 17:56, Greg Ferber wrote: > Alright, so this is cool. When I run it with the debugger (using gdb, as > per the instructions) it works just fine. When I run it by itself, I get > the error I originally mentioned. Anyone have any suggestions? > > -Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen > Dedu > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:20 AM > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal > > See > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2 > > On 08/05/13 16:06, Greg Ferber wrote: >> And how does one go about collecting the -d 4 log? I assumed those >> are the command line parameters with which to launch Ekiga, but once I >> had done so, I didn't see the log either in the application directory, nor > under AppData. >> Note: I am attempting this on Windows. >> >> -Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of >> Eugen Dedu >> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:33 AM >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga and SimpleSignal >> >> On 08/05/13 01:41, Greg Ferber wrote: >>> I've tried to find any documentation at all regarding configuration >>> of Ekiga to work with SimpleSignal, but unfortunately I've failed at >>> locating anything so specific. Does anyone know what is necessary to >>> get Ekiga working with a SimpleSignal SIP account? >>> >>> >>> >>> I've managed to get it to technically register with the server, >>> however when trying to place a call I get a 401 unauthorized error >>> and the >> call fails. >>> I'm happy to produce any requested log files, if someone wants to >>> help me investigate this issue. >> >> Indeed, we need the -d 4 log. >> >> Have you tried with and without Enable Network Detection (in Preferences)? From geo.cherchetout at laposte.net Thu May 9 18:26:17 2013 From: geo.cherchetout at laposte.net (geo cherchetout) Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 20:26:17 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] How to send audio from a file ? In-Reply-To: <513B3FDA.7090506@laposte.net> References: <513B3FDA.7090506@laposte.net> Message-ID: <518BEA49.1060009@laposte.net> Le 09/03/2013 14:57, I wrote: > Hello, > > Now, I should like to have the other speaker hearing an .wav, .ogg or .mp3 > file that I have in my home. (Preferably whithout using any wire and > soundcard input/output jacks.) > Perhaps there is a way to make a virtual audio device that Ekiga could work > with ? I have just found one or two simple ways to do this on Linux: 1) Launch snd_aloop module # modprobe snd_aloop 2) Look for Loopback virtual card number: $ aplay -l (4 for my example) 3) Set audacious or other sound reader to use hw:4,1 for playback and start playing the file, assuming this file is a 8000 samples/s record 4) Set Ekiga to use "Loopback" as capture device and start a call. One time I also succeeded to use monitor function of pulseaudio, but don't hope I could explain this because I don't usually use pulseaudio. From wempwer at gmail.com Sun May 12 18:46:23 2013 From: wempwer at gmail.com (wempwer at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:46:23 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" Message-ID: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> Hi guys, I am a first time Ekiga user. I got interested in Ekiga because I am looking a for a free FLOSS solution to stay in touch with my family during a long business trip to a distant country. I set up an account at https://www.ekiga.net/ and got a confirmation e-mail. When I start Ekiga it says I am registered. I am using Ekiga 4.0.1. Everything is fine up to this point. However, there are 2 situations when Ekiga gives me a segmentation fault - sometimes when it starts and always at a callback test. Here are the log: startup http://pastebin.com/L1rCbUAy, callback test: http://pastebin.com/yjr5rA8c. Also, sometimes callback test fails to connect and it says "Remote host is offline". However, sometimes it connects but segmentation fault follows immediately. I don't know what's the reason. AFAIK, Exiga doesn't provide a proxy service the way Skype does. If I call someone, Ekiga only checks which computer is registered to this address and gives my client this computer's IP address and that's it, my computer connects to this computer via its IP. It makes me think if it's reliable enough to be used in public WiFi networks in hotels, has somebody tested that? -- From wempwer at gmail.com Sun May 12 20:28:40 2013 From: wempwer at gmail.com (wempwer at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:28:40 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> Message-ID: <20130512202840.GB23350@a> Dude, I tried to call my number from the another computer in the same LAN and I hit segfault again. Here is the log http://pastebin.com/4ijEQimV. Do you think it has something to do with my local environment? -- From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon May 13 19:21:44 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 21:21:44 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> Message-ID: <51913D48.2000209@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 12/05/13 20:46, wempwer at gmail.com wrote: > Hi guys, Hi! > I am a first time Ekiga user. I got interested in Ekiga because I am > looking a for a free FLOSS solution to stay in touch with my family > during a long business trip to a distant country. I set up an account > at https://www.ekiga.net/ and got a confirmation e-mail. When I start > Ekiga it says I am registered. I am using Ekiga 4.0.1. Everything is > fine up to this point. Good! > However, there are 2 situations when Ekiga gives me a segmentation fault > - sometimes when it starts and always at a callback test. Here are the > log: startup http://pastebin.com/L1rCbUAy, callback test: > http://pastebin.com/yjr5rA8c. I have never met those crashes. Maybe they have something to do with the fact that your X server does not have randr extension??? Unfortunately, for crashes we need the gdb trace, preferably together with -d 4, cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_stack_backtrace_from_a_crash_or_freeze. > Also, sometimes callback test fails to connect and it says "Remote host For this error we need a -d 4 log when it appears. > is offline". However, sometimes it connects but segmentation fault > follows immediately. I don't know what's the reason. AFAIK, Exiga > doesn't provide a proxy service the way Skype does. If I call someone, > Ekiga only checks which computer is registered to this address and gives > my client this computer's IP address and that's it, my computer connects > to this computer via its IP. It makes me think if it's reliable enough > to be used in public WiFi networks in hotels, has somebody tested that? I personally used it successfully in public wi-fi networks. So there are three issues: two crashes and a connection error. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon May 13 19:23:05 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 21:23:05 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <20130512202840.GB23350@a> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> <20130512202840.GB23350@a> Message-ID: <51913D99.7050206@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 12/05/13 22:28, wempwer at gmail.com wrote: > Dude, I tried to call my number from the another computer in the same > LAN and I hit segfault again. Here is the log > http://pastebin.com/4ijEQimV. Do you think it has something to do with > my local environment? I do not know yet, I need the gdb stack. Anyway, a crash is a crash... Please send three separate e-mails, to better track them. -- Eugen From darren at ballegeer.net Mon May 13 19:56:17 2013 From: darren at ballegeer.net (Darren Ballegeer) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 12:56:17 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <51913D99.7050206@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> <20130512202840.GB23350@a> <51913D99.7050206@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <007201ce5013$ef020210$cd060630$@ballegeer.net> Please remove me from this list. thanks -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:23 PM To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" On 12/05/13 22:28, wempwer at gmail.com wrote: > Dude, I tried to call my number from the another computer in the same > LAN and I hit segfault again. Here is the log > http://pastebin.com/4ijEQimV. Do you think it has something to do with > my local environment? I do not know yet, I need the gdb stack. Anyway, a crash is a crash... Please send three separate e-mails, to better track them. -- Eugen _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From alex.theoto at gmail.com Tue May 14 04:42:48 2013 From: alex.theoto at gmail.com (Alex Theotokatos) Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 07:42:48 +0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <007201ce5013$ef020210$cd060630$@ballegeer.net> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> <20130512202840.GB23350@a> <51913D99.7050206@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <007201ce5013$ef020210$cd060630$@ballegeer.net> Message-ID: <5191C0C8.80501@gmail.com> If you want to unsubscribe, go to https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list and there is an option. On 05/13/2013 10:56 PM, Darren Ballegeer wrote: > Please remove me from this list. thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen > Dedu > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:23 PM > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" > > On 12/05/13 22:28, wempwer at gmail.com wrote: >> Dude, I tried to call my number from the another computer in the same >> LAN and I hit segfault again. Here is the log >> http://pastebin.com/4ijEQimV. Do you think it has something to do with >> my local environment? > > I do not know yet, I need the gdb stack. Anyway, a crash is a crash... > > Please send three separate e-mails, to better track them. > > -- > Eugen > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From vjaquez at igalia.com Wed May 15 11:16:33 2013 From: vjaquez at igalia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_M=2E_J=E1quez_L=2E?=) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:16:33 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] Message-ID: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> The talk I submitted about Ekiga has been rejected. vmjl ----- Forwarded message from Emmanuele Bassi ----- Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 11:11:18 +0100 From: Emmanuele Bassi To: vjaquez at igalia.com Cc: GUADEC Paper Review Team Subject: GUADEC 2013 Proposal Hi! I am sorry to inform you that your talk submission "Ekiga: past, present and future" for GUADEC 2013 has been rejected. We want to thank you for the time you put in preparing your talk submission for GUADEC 2013; we know how difficult can be to put a good proposal together in time, and we appreciate the effort in doing that. It is typical for some accepted speakers to drop out, and we will be offering any spare spaces that become available. This means that you may still receive an acceptance email after the speakers confirmation deadline, which is June 2nd. We would all very much like to have you attend GUADEC in Brno anyway, and have the chance to engage the GNOME community; if you want, you can still propose a lightning talk, or a "birds of a feather" session. On behalf of the GUADEC papers committee, Emmanuele Bassi. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ----- End forwarded message ----- From dsandras at seconix.com Wed May 15 11:55:45 2013 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:45 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> Message-ID: <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> Bad news. That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga anymore. Le 15/05/13 13:16, V?ctor M. J?quez L. a ?crit : > The talk I submitted about Ekiga has been rejected. > > vmjl > > ----- Forwarded message from Emmanuele Bassi ----- > > Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 11:11:18 +0100 > From: Emmanuele Bassi > To: vjaquez at igalia.com > Cc: GUADEC Paper Review Team > Subject: GUADEC 2013 Proposal > > Hi! > > I am sorry to inform you that your talk submission "Ekiga: past, > present and future" for GUADEC 2013 has been rejected. We want to > thank you for the time you put in preparing your talk submission for > GUADEC 2013; we know how difficult can be to put a good proposal > together in time, and we appreciate the effort in doing that. > > It is typical for some accepted speakers to drop out, and we will be > offering any spare spaces that become available. This means that you > may still receive an acceptance email after the speakers confirmation > deadline, which is June 2nd. > > We would all very much like to have you attend GUADEC in Brno anyway, > and have the chance to engage the GNOME community; if you want, you > can still propose a lightning talk, or a "birds of a feather" session. > > On behalf of the GUADEC papers committee, > Emmanuele Bassi. > > > -- > W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name > B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vjaquez at igalia.com Wed May 15 12:07:45 2013 From: vjaquez at igalia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_M=2E_J=E1quez_L=2E?=) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> Message-ID: <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > Bad news. > > That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga anymore. Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of gnome, with it's library dependencies and user interface design. vmjl > > Le 15/05/13 13:16, V?ctor M. J?quez L. a ?crit : > >The talk I submitted about Ekiga has been rejected. > > > >vmjl > > > >----- Forwarded message from Emmanuele Bassi ----- > > > >Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 11:11:18 +0100 > >From: Emmanuele Bassi > >To: vjaquez at igalia.com > >Cc: GUADEC Paper Review Team > >Subject: GUADEC 2013 Proposal > > > >Hi! > > > >I am sorry to inform you that your talk submission "Ekiga: past, > >present and future" for GUADEC 2013 has been rejected. We want to > >thank you for the time you put in preparing your talk submission for > >GUADEC 2013; we know how difficult can be to put a good proposal > >together in time, and we appreciate the effort in doing that. > > > >It is typical for some accepted speakers to drop out, and we will be > >offering any spare spaces that become available. This means that you > >may still receive an acceptance email after the speakers confirmation > >deadline, which is June 2nd. > > > >We would all very much like to have you attend GUADEC in Brno anyway, > >and have the chance to engage the GNOME community; if you want, you > >can still propose a lightning talk, or a "birds of a feather" session. > > > >On behalf of the GUADEC papers committee, > > Emmanuele Bassi. > > > > > >-- > >W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name > >B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ > > > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > >_______________________________________________ > >ekiga-list mailing list > >ekiga-list at gnome.org > >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Wed May 15 16:32:27 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 18:32:27 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> Message-ID: <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> Hello, On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Bad news. > > > > That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga > > anymore. > > Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of gnome, > with it's library dependencies and user interface design. What exactly is missing or wrong in Ekiga? It seems that many are satisfied with the many improved performances of Ekiga in recent year, and is constantly being updated in repositories such as Slackware and Salix OS. http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.0/network/ekiga/ > vmjl > > > > > Le 15/05/13 13:16, V?ctor M. J?quez L. a ?crit : > > >The talk I submitted about Ekiga has been rejected. > > > > > >vmjl > > > > > >----- Forwarded message from Emmanuele Bassi > > >----- > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 11:11:18 +0100 > > >From: Emmanuele Bassi > > >To: vjaquez at igalia.com > > >Cc: GUADEC Paper Review Team > > >Subject: GUADEC 2013 Proposal > > > > > >Hi! > > > > > >I am sorry to inform you that your talk submission "Ekiga: past, > > >present and future" for GUADEC 2013 has been rejected. We want to > > >thank you for the time you put in preparing your talk submission > > >for GUADEC 2013; we know how difficult can be to put a good > > >proposal together in time, and we appreciate the effort in doing > > >that. > > > > > >It is typical for some accepted speakers to drop out, and we will > > >be offering any spare spaces that become available. This means > > >that you may still receive an acceptance email after the speakers > > >confirmation deadline, which is June 2nd. > > > > > >We would all very much like to have you attend GUADEC in Brno > > >anyway, and have the chance to engage the GNOME community; if you > > >want, you can still propose a lightning talk, or a "birds of a > > >feather" session. > > > > > >On behalf of the GUADEC papers committee, > > > Emmanuele Bassi. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name > > >B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ > > > > > > > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > > >_______________________________________________ > > >ekiga-list mailing list > > >ekiga-list at gnome.org > > >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From vjaquez at igalia.com Wed May 15 16:51:31 2013 From: vjaquez at igalia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?V=EDctor_M=2E_J=E1quez_L=2E?=) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 18:51:31 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:32:27PM +0200, Genghis Khan wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 > V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > > > Bad news. > > > > > > That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga > > > anymore. > > > > Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of gnome, > > with it's library dependencies and user interface design. > > What exactly is missing or wrong in Ekiga? There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we shall admit that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the migration to GTK+ 3.x, GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged behind. vmjl > > It seems that many are satisfied with the many improved performances of > Ekiga in recent year, and is constantly being updated in repositories > such as Slackware and Salix OS. > > http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.0/network/ekiga/ > > > vmjl > > From Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca Thu May 16 14:03:00 2013 From: Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca (Jim Diamond) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:03:00 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> Message-ID: <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 18:51 (+0200), V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:32:27PM +0200, Genghis Khan wrote: >> Hello, >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 >> V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: >>> > Bad news. >>> > >>> > That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga >>> > anymore. >>> Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of gnome, >>> with it's library dependencies and user interface design. >> What exactly is missing or wrong in Ekiga? > There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. > But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we shall admit > that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the migration to GTK+ 3.x, > GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged behind. Speaking as a voice on the side... why do we/you/... want ekiga to be a gnome component? Why not a generic program which is independent of any desktop environment? (I'm not bad-mouthing gnome 2 or gnome 3; I do prefer gnome 2 to kde. However, as a non-gnome desktop environment user (Slackware dropped gnome many years ago), the "gnome" aspects of (first gnomemeeting and then) ekiga have caused me considerable amounts of grief over the years. In particular, gconfd has caused lots of problems, and it is unclear to me what the benefits are, in particular for people who don't use gnome as their DE.) As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on slackware, since (presumably) there is no gnome. Ho hum. Jim From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu May 16 14:31:19 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:31:19 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> Message-ID: <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: > As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. > I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find > out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even modify the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. -- Eugen From Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca Thu May 16 15:47:51 2013 From: Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca (Jim Diamond) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 12:47:51 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: >>As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. >>I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find >>out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on > You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even modify > the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. Eugen, thanks. I have no problem editing files by hand, but... you say "the file". But there are currently 22 files under there. It is not completely obvious - what file needs editing; - what directory that file should be in; and - what syntax is required. (None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so I am starting from square 1. No doubt if I read enough docs or search the web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is the file), but I can't help but think that one or two "custom" config files would be just as easy as using gconf, and thus removing a dependency from what could be ("should be" in my humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.) Having said that, I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that you and others have done on this program, and I respect the fact that the people who do the work get to make the choices that suit them best. Jim From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Thu May 16 16:07:07 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:07:07 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> Message-ID: <20130516160713.103920@gmx.com> On Thu, 16 May 2013 11:03:00 -0300 Jim Diamond wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 18:51 (+0200), V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:32:27PM +0200, Genghis Khan wrote: > >> Hello, > > >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 > >> V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > > >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > >>> > Bad news. > >>> > > >>> > That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga > >>> > anymore. > > >>> Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of > >>> gnome, with it's library dependencies and user interface design. > > >> What exactly is missing or wrong in Ekiga? > > > There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. > > > But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we > > shall admit that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the > > migration to GTK+ 3.x, GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged > > behind. > > Speaking as a voice on the side... why do we/you/... want ekiga to be > a gnome component? Why not a generic program which is independent of > any desktop environment? I dislike GNOME because of its dependency management which is troubling for users who would like to install a program that weight less than 10MB and need to get over 90MB of unneeded programs to get that program to work. For your information, MATE (fork of GNOME2) are working to solve this dependency travesty of GNOME http://mate-desktop.org/ > (I'm not bad-mouthing gnome 2 or gnome 3; I do prefer gnome 2 to kde. > However, as a non-gnome desktop environment user (Slackware dropped > gnome many years ago), the "gnome" aspects of (first gnomemeeting and > then) ekiga have caused me considerable amounts of grief over the > years. In particular, gconfd has caused lots of problems, and it is > unclear to me what the benefits are, in particular for people who > don't use gnome as their DE.) Before I get to bash GNOME, please note that you can choose not to use GNOME and gconfd support by using these flags: --disable-gnome \ --disable-gconf \ So your argument is irrelevant (well, unless there is no GNOME-free binary package available in some repository) even though I fully agree with your point of view. I have two main problems with gconfd. One problem is focusing on GNOME instead of finding a way to incorporate a solution to GNOME, LXDE, MATE, Xfce and even KDE and Qt all together; The other problem is that, once again, GNOME are attempting to foist on others, who are not interested, unneeded dependencies, which is a way to market the brand GNOME. The politics of GNOME is bad and I am still amazed and wonder how it got to such an ugly point instead of better helping to all of us who like to be or to have an ability to be DE independent and who, so I think, are still a minority. > As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. > I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find > out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on > slackware, since (presumably) there is no gnome. Ho hum. I also think that there should be an option in GUI to set up STUN. > Jim > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu May 16 16:31:06 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:31:06 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> Message-ID: <519509CA.3040201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 16/05/13 17:47, Jim Diamond wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > >> On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: >>> As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. >>> I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find >>> out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on > >> You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even modify >> the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. > > Eugen, > > thanks. I have no problem editing files by hand, but... > you say "the file". But there are currently 22 files under there. It > is not completely obvious > - what file needs editing; > - what directory that file should be in; and > - what syntax is required. > (None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so I am > starting from square 1. No doubt if I read enough docs or search the > web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is the file), but I > can't help but think that one or two "custom" config files would be > just as easy as using gconf, and thus removing a dependency from what > could be ("should be" in my humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.) Damien is working to replace gconf by gsettings, I think this fixes your concerns, is that right? > Having said that, I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that you > and others have done on this program, and I respect the fact that the > people who do the work get to make the choices that suit them best. -- Eugen From bret at busby.net Fri May 17 05:48:12 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 13:48:12 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 15 May 2013, V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 00:51:31 > From: V?ctor M. J?quez L. > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] > > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:32:27PM +0200, Genghis Khan wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:07:45 +0200 >> V?ctor M. J?quez L. wrote: >> >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:55:45PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: >>>> Bad news. >>>> >>>> That probably means GNOME has now less or no interest in Ekiga >>>> anymore. >>> >>> Yes, though, it is a fact that we are not keeping the pace of gnome, >>> with it's library dependencies and user interface design. >> >> What exactly is missing or wrong in Ekiga? > > There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. > > But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we shall admit > that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the migration to GTK+ 3.x, > GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged behind. > > vmjl > > >From another mailing list, " Are you aware of the GNOME 3 controversy? It changed beyond recognition, not only visually, but many of the subsystems that power it. XFCE perhaps resembles more closely what you thought of as GNOME, as it is still based on GTK+ 2. There are other forks of GNOME 2 being produced by people who miss it, and recently GNOME developers have become more open to the idea. " which appears to indicate that people like me, who use, and, are accustomed to using, GNOME 2.x, are best abandoning GNOME, when it becomes GNOME 3. I am running Debian Linx 6. 0.x, which is apparently running GNOME 2.x . -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca Fri May 17 12:37:03 2013 From: Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca (Jim Diamond) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:37:03 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <519509CA.3040201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> <519509CA.3040201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <20130517123703.GA31853@jdiamond-nb2> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 16/05/13 17:47, Jim Diamond wrote: >>On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: >>>>As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. >>>>I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find >>>>out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on >>>You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even modify >>>the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. >>Eugen, >>thanks. I have no problem editing files by hand, but... >>you say "the file". But there are currently 22 files under there. It >>is not completely obvious >>- what file needs editing; >>- what directory that file should be in; and >>- what syntax is required. >>(None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so I am >>starting from square 1. No doubt if I read enough docs or search the >>web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is the file), but I >>can't help but think that one or two "custom" config files would be >>just as easy as using gconf, and thus removing a dependency from what >>could be ("should be" in my humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.) > Damien is working to replace gconf by gsettings, I think this fixes > your concerns, is that right? Well, maybe. If I knew what the name of my schema was or whether I should use schemadir, and what path I want, and the name of the key, it would probably be easy to use. But knowing all that probably means I could just create the right file in the right place with my favourite text editor. I'm guessing that someone who uses gnome on a regular basis knows and can do this stuff in their sleep. However, getting back on the "why does ekiga want to be a gnome-specific tool" bandwagon, there are those of us who, for one reason or another, don't use gnome. And learning a bunch of gnome-specific stuff for one program is arguably not time well spent. Incidentally, if someone wants to update the page http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router it says How can I easily use Ekiga behind a NAT/PAT gateway? Ekiga has extensive and improved NAT support thanks to STUN. In most cases, you do not have any configuration to do, and you can even be reachable from the outside without any port forwarding: just run the Configuration Assistant until the end. which seems to be no longer true. Cheers. Jim From Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca Fri May 17 12:43:20 2013 From: Jim.Diamond at acadiau.ca (Jim Diamond) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:43:20 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130516160713.103920@gmx.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <20130516160713.103920@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20130517124320.GB31853@jdiamond-nb2> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:07 (+0200), Genghis Khan wrote: > On Thu, 16 May 2013 11:03:00 -0300 > Jim Diamond wrote: >>> There's nothing missing or wrong in Ekiga per se. >>> But if we want to think in Ekiga as a component of GNOME (3.x) we >>> shall admit that Ekiga doesn't follow the UI design and the >>> migration to GTK+ 3.x, GSettings, GStreamer, etc., is a bit lagged >>> behind. >> (I'm not bad-mouthing gnome 2 or gnome 3; I do prefer gnome 2 to kde. >> However, as a non-gnome desktop environment user (Slackware dropped >> gnome many years ago), the "gnome" aspects of (first gnomemeeting and >> then) ekiga have caused me considerable amounts of grief over the >> years. In particular, gconfd has caused lots of problems, and it is >> unclear to me what the benefits are, in particular for people who >> don't use gnome as their DE.) > Before I get to bash GNOME, please note that you can choose not to use > GNOME and gconfd support by using these flags: > --disable-gnome \ > --disable-gconf \ > So your argument is irrelevant (well, unless there is no GNOME-free > binary package available in some repository) I wouldn't quite say "irrelevant". I was using the ekiga slackbuild available at http://slackbuilds.org/ and I see now that it uses --disable-gnome but for whatever reason uses --enable-gconf. I assume the guy who maintains the slackbuild does that for a reason, but I could certainly try recompiling with it --disable-gconf. I do appreciate the fact that ekiga provides these options. > even though I fully agree with your point of view. >> As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. >> I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find >> out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on >> slackware, since (presumably) there is no gnome. Ho hum. > I also think that there should be an option in GUI to set up STUN. There used to be. (At least in gnommeeting, maybe since.) I wonder why it went away. Jim From fred.k at member.fsf.org Fri May 17 14:04:47 2013 From: fred.k at member.fsf.org (fred k) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 23:04:47 +0900 Subject: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy In-Reply-To: <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> Message-ID: <519638FF.4040100@member.fsf.org> Hi guys/gals, another voice from the sideline: First off, I appreciate active developers for thinking about GNOME, UI design, GTK compatibilities, etc, etc. I/we, users, benefited from YOU a bunch. *Thank you!* For GNOME3, I have unfavorable first impression. Tweaking debian 7.0 for a few hours, I couldn't find a couple of setting dialogs that existed before, even hit some abnormal exits and freezes. I'm not sure GNOME's the culprit or something else is, but I'll stay debian 5 at least for now until deb 7 stabilizes, or GNOME 2.4 until 3.x stabilizes. Since I've been comfortable with ekiga 2.4 UI design, ekiga 4.0.1 on GNOME3 somewhat confuses me. I'll expect some learning curve, though. fred_k From fred.k at member.fsf.org Fri May 17 14:53:25 2013 From: fred.k at member.fsf.org (fred k) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 23:53:25 +0900 Subject: [Ekiga-list] segmentation faults and "Remote host is offline" In-Reply-To: <51913D48.2000209@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <20130512184623.GA23350@a> <51913D48.2000209@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <51964465.80207@member.fsf.org> Hi, Eugen said: > I personally used it successfully in public wi-fi networks. I have had some difficulties with old ekiga in wireless environment. I tried ekiga 4.0.1 both in wireless and wired environment; results are somewhat reversed. ekiga 2.0.12 works perfectly on a wired network but very slow to register or originate a call on a wireless, these actions took more than 60 seconds to complete if they ever did. Actions fail frequently. ekiga 4.0.1 works perfectly on a *wireless* (it's WiMax, not WiFi) connection but not so good on a wired network. On a wired network (ADSL), while trying to register, -d 2 log says "PDU is likely too large (1596 bytes) for UDP datagram" before giving up and say "remote host is offline." Not sure about segmentation faults but ekiga 4.0.1 aborts once or twice during the course of these tests. -d 2 log excerpt: (for your information only. I'll tweak the app/env a bit more before throwing a log at you guys to call for help :-) ... 2013/05/17 22:06:00.433 0:20.353 Pool:0xa6183b70 MediaFormat Validation of merge for media option "Packetization Mode" failed. 2013/05/17 22:06:00.463 0:20.384 Pool:0xa6183b70 SIP PDU is likely too large (1596 bytes) for UDP datagram. 2013/05/17 22:06:00.982 0:20.902 Housekeeper:0xae17ab70 SIP PDU is likely too large (1596 bytes) for UDP datagram. 2013/05/17 22:06:01.982 0:21.902 Housekeeper:0xae17ab70 SIP PDU is likely too large (1596 bytes) ... 2013/05/17 22:06:23.984 0:43.904 Housekeeper:0xae17ab70 SIP Transaction 2 INVITE sip:500 at ekiga.net failed, unknown handler, ID: 06ddd72e-60bd-e211-8162-000bdb4122ea at d7 2013/05/17 22:06:30.760 0:50.680 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 MonSock Socket read UDP error (113): No route to host 2013/05/17 22:06:30.760 0:50.680 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 Listen UDP read error. 2013/05/17 22:06:31.294 0:51.214 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 MonSock Socket read UDP error (113): No route to host 2013/05/17 22:06:31.295 0:51.215 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 Listen UDP read error. 2013/05/17 22:06:32.269 0:52.189 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 MonSock Socket read UDP error (113): No route to host 2013/05/17 22:06:32.269 0:52.189 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 Listen UDP read error. 2013/05/17 22:06:34.271 0:54.191 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 MonSock Socket read UDP error (113): No route to host 2013/05/17 22:06:34.271 0:54.191 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 Listen UDP read error. 2013/05/17 22:06:38.277 0:58.197 Opal Liste...0xadff4b70 MonSock Socket read UDP error (113): No route to host ... ----------------- Installing ekiga 4.0.1 requires me to add some unstable packages from the debian repository to freshly installed debian 7.0, which came with GNOME 3.2. Uggg. Can't find gconf-editor either. Ok, need more reading/searching... fred_k From bret at busby.net Fri May 17 16:54:45 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 00:54:45 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy In-Reply-To: <519638FF.4040100@member.fsf.org> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <519638FF.4040100@member.fsf.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 2013, fred k wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 22:04:47 > From: fred k > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy > > Hi guys/gals, another voice from the sideline: > > First off, I appreciate active developers for thinking about GNOME, UI > design, GTK compatibilities, etc, etc. I/we, users, benefited from YOU a > bunch. *Thank you!* > > For GNOME3, I have unfavorable first impression. Tweaking debian 7.0 for a > few hours, I couldn't find a couple of setting dialogs that existed before, > even hit some abnormal exits and freezes. I'm not sure GNOME's the culprit or > something else is, but I'll stay debian 5 at least for now until deb 7 > stabilizes, or GNOME 2.4 until 3.x stabilizes. > > Since I've been comfortable with ekiga 2.4 UI design, ekiga 4.0.1 on GNOME3 > somewhat confuses me. I'll expect some learning curve, though. > > fred_k > Hello. I am running Debian 6.0.x amd64 version, which is running GNOME 2.3.something (I think). I have just checked the GNOME Terninal Help -> About, in which I am running pine (now named alpine), and that shows version number 2.30.2, which I assume to be the vesion number of the GNOME that is running on this system. Debian 6 would probably work with you. The primary problem that I have with the operating system, is that it will not use swap memory - I have 8GB RAM, and a 40GB swap partition, but it will run out of RAM and crash, without using the swap partition. However, that appears to be particular to me, from the feedback that I have received from the Debian Users list. It could just be that the amd64 version of Debian 6, has not yet achieved stability. I do not know. A problem that I see with running Debian 5 (I think that I am still running it on our firewall/gateway machine, but that is because the firewall software, which appears to still work, is now obsolete), is that I understand that no updates, security or otherwise, are being provided for Debian 5, which would make Debian 5 a vulnerability (I think). I could be wrong in that. When I upgrade the OS, it will probably be to PC-BSD (which will probably be a steep learning curve - I haven't used BSD, since BSD 4.2, on a VAX, as a user, and, not as a systems administrator, in the early 1980's, I think). I think that PC-BSD 9 runs GNOME 2.x . I assume that Ekiga will run on PC-BSD. Apparently, PC-BSD will run Linux software within a jail (like a sandbox, I think). -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From ferber.greg at gmail.com Fri May 17 16:35:18 2013 From: ferber.greg at gmail.com (Greg Ferber) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:35:18 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call Message-ID: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> This has happened to me several times recently. Ekiga is connected, I can place calls if so desired, and someone calls me. I get the ringing sound, but none of the buttons or menu entries will let me pick up the call. Windows 7 x64, Ekiga 4.0.1, using SIP (specifically SimpleSignal service, which uses BroadSoft, in case that matters) Any clues? -Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[1]: http://fs-security.com/ -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From stuart at gathman.org Fri May 17 18:53:40 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart D Gathman) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call In-Reply-To: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> References: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> On 05/17/2013 12:34 PM, Greg Ferber expounded in part: > > This has happened to me several times recently. Ekiga is connected, I > can place calls if so desired, and someone calls me. I get the > ringing sound, but none of the buttons or menu entries will let me > pick up the call. > > Windows 7 x64, Ekiga 4.0.1, using SIP (specifically SimpleSignal > service, which uses BroadSoft, in case that matters) > > Any clues? > > Heh. This is a big problem. I thought Windows was supposed to pop up the call window instead of using notifiers? On unix desktops with notifiers, ekiga pops up a notifier with Accept and Reject buttons. Unfortunately, 2 out of 4 desktop systems tested have broken notifiers, so that you can't answer calls on those desktops either. Working desktops so far in Fedora are gnome-shell and mate (cinnamon and gnome-fallback are broken). I've been campaigning for the developers to make always using the Call window a config option, instead of relying the desktop environment to tell the truth about whether buttons on notifiers are supported (cinnamon lies) and assuming they actually work. It is good to try to support notifiers by default, since that is more elegant, and integrated with the desktop. But being able to fall back to the call window without recompiling would be great. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri May 17 19:36:42 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 21:36:42 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call In-Reply-To: <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> References: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> Message-ID: <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/05/13 20:53, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > On 05/17/2013 12:34 PM, Greg Ferber expounded in part: >> >> This has happened to me several times recently. Ekiga is connected, I >> can place calls if so desired, and someone calls me. I get the ringing >> sound, but none of the buttons or menu entries will let me pick up the >> call. >> >> Windows 7 x64, Ekiga 4.0.1, using SIP (specifically SimpleSignal >> service, which uses BroadSoft, in case that matters) >> >> Any clues? >> >> > Heh. This is a big problem. I thought Windows was supposed to pop up the > call window instead of using notifiers? On unix desktops with notifiers, Indeed, it is strange that the call window is not automatically shown on Windows. Isn't the call window shown? Is it never shown or only sometimes? > ekiga pops up a notifier with Accept and Reject buttons. Unfortunately, > 2 out of 4 desktop systems tested have broken notifiers, so that you > can't answer calls on those desktops either. Working desktops so far in > Fedora are gnome-shell and mate (cinnamon and gnome-fallback are broken). > > I've been campaigning for the developers to make always using the Call > window a config option, instead of relying the desktop environment to > tell the truth about whether buttons on notifiers are supported > (cinnamon lies) and assuming they actually work. You are not alone, I have compaigned too, but I was told that the notification is better visually :) Maybe we can add a command line switch, or a gconf (!) key for that? > It is good to try to support notifiers by default, since that is more > elegant, and integrated with the desktop. But being able to fall back to > the call window without recompiling would be great. It is supposed to fallback. If it does not happen, the problem is surely in notification implementation, not in ekiga. -- Eugen From sevmek at free.fr Fri May 17 20:23:06 2013 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 22:23:06 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] In-Reply-To: <20130517123703.GA31853@jdiamond-nb2> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> <519509CA.3040201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130517123703.GA31853@jdiamond-nb2> Message-ID: <1368822186.3310.5.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 ? 09:37 -0300, Jim Diamond a ?crit : > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > > > On 16/05/13 17:47, Jim Diamond wrote: > >>On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > > >>>On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: > >>>>As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router. > >>>>I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a bit and find > >>>>out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it doesn't exist on > > >>>You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even modify > >>>the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. > > >>Eugen, > > >>thanks. I have no problem editing files by hand, but... > >>you say "the file". But there are currently 22 files under there. It > >>is not completely obvious > >>- what file needs editing; > >>- what directory that file should be in; and > >>- what syntax is required. > >>(None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so I am > >>starting from square 1. No doubt if I read enough docs or search the > >>web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is the file), but I > >>can't help but think that one or two "custom" config files would be > >>just as easy as using gconf, and thus removing a dependency from what > >>could be ("should be" in my humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.) If I remember correctly, there is an option, probably the disable-gconf one, to store the configuration of Ekiga in one single file. AFAIK this work was done for the windows port which lacks gconf, by Snark. I do not know if you can use it under GNU/Linux. > > > Damien is working to replace gconf by gsettings, I think this fixes > > your concerns, is that right? > > Well, maybe. If I knew what the name of my schema was or whether I > should use schemadir, and what path I want, and the name of the key, > it would probably be easy to use. But knowing all that probably means > I could just create the right file in the right place with my > favourite text editor. > > I'm guessing that someone who uses gnome on a regular basis knows and > can do this stuff in their sleep. However, getting back on the "why > does ekiga want to be a gnome-specific tool" bandwagon, there are > those of us who, for one reason or another, don't use gnome. And > learning a bunch of gnome-specific stuff for one program is arguably > not time well spent. > > Incidentally, if someone wants to update the page > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router > it says > How can I easily use Ekiga behind a NAT/PAT gateway? > > Ekiga has extensive and improved NAT support thanks to > STUN. In most cases, you do not have any configuration to do, > and you can even be reachable from the outside without any > port forwarding: just run the Configuration Assistant until > the end. > which seems to be no longer true. > > Cheers. > Jim > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From ferber.greg at gmail.com Fri May 17 21:07:39 2013 From: ferber.greg at gmail.com (Greg Ferber) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call In-Reply-To: <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <063601ce5342$91201970$b3604c50$@gmail.com> It is only sometimes visible, but even when it is visible, the menu items and answer call buttons are greyed out. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:37 PM To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call On 17/05/13 20:53, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > On 05/17/2013 12:34 PM, Greg Ferber expounded in part: >> >> This has happened to me several times recently. Ekiga is connected, I >> can place calls if so desired, and someone calls me. I get the >> ringing sound, but none of the buttons or menu entries will let me >> pick up the call. >> >> Windows 7 x64, Ekiga 4.0.1, using SIP (specifically SimpleSignal >> service, which uses BroadSoft, in case that matters) >> >> Any clues? >> >> > Heh. This is a big problem. I thought Windows was supposed to pop up > the call window instead of using notifiers? On unix desktops with > notifiers, Indeed, it is strange that the call window is not automatically shown on Windows. Isn't the call window shown? Is it never shown or only sometimes? > ekiga pops up a notifier with Accept and Reject buttons. > Unfortunately, > 2 out of 4 desktop systems tested have broken notifiers, so that you > can't answer calls on those desktops either. Working desktops so far > in Fedora are gnome-shell and mate (cinnamon and gnome-fallback are broken). > > I've been campaigning for the developers to make always using the Call > window a config option, instead of relying the desktop environment to > tell the truth about whether buttons on notifiers are supported > (cinnamon lies) and assuming they actually work. You are not alone, I have compaigned too, but I was told that the notification is better visually :) Maybe we can add a command line switch, or a gconf (!) key for that? > It is good to try to support notifiers by default, since that is more > elegant, and integrated with the desktop. But being able to fall back > to the call window without recompiling would be great. It is supposed to fallback. If it does not happen, the problem is surely in notification implementation, not in ekiga. -- Eugen _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From stuart at gathman.org Sat May 18 01:18:29 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart Gathman) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 21:18:29 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call In-Reply-To: <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5196D6E5.4000601@gathman.org> Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 05/17/2013 03:36 PM, Eugen Dedu would write: > On 17/05/13 20:53, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > >> ekiga pops up a notifier with Accept and Reject buttons. Unfortunately, >> 2 out of 4 desktop systems tested have broken notifiers, so that you >> can't answer calls on those desktops either. Working desktops so far in >> Fedora are gnome-shell and mate (cinnamon and gnome-fallback are >> broken). >> >> I've been campaigning for the developers to make always using the Call >> window a config option, instead of relying the desktop environment to >> tell the truth about whether buttons on notifiers are supported >> (cinnamon lies) and assuming they actually work. > > You are not alone, I have compaigned too, but I was told that the > notification is better visually :) Maybe we can add a command line > switch, or a gconf (!) key for that? I agree, the notification *is* better visually. *When* it actually works. There *must* be a fallback! From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat May 18 03:43:16 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 05:43:16 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal] References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130516140300.GA29442@jdiamond-nb2> <5194EDB7.1040202@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130516154751.GC29442@jdiamond-nb2> <519509CA.3040201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <20130517123703.GA31853@jdiamond-nb2> <1368822186.3310.5.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Message-ID: <20130518034317.52600@gmx.com> On Fri, 17 May 2013 22:23:06 +0200 Yannick wrote: > Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 ? 09:37 -0300, Jim Diamond a ?crit : > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > > > > > On 16/05/13 17:47, Jim Diamond wrote: > > >>On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote: > > > > >>>On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote: > > >>>>As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT > > >>>>router. I see no gui option to set up STUN. I search the web a > > >>>>bit and find out I need to use gconf-editor. Too bad that it > > >>>>doesn't exist on > > > > >>>You can use gconftool to modify the stun server. You can even > > >>>modify the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory. > > > > >>Eugen, > > > > >>thanks. I have no problem editing files by hand, but... > > >>you say "the file". But there are currently 22 files under > > >>there. It is not completely obvious > > >>- what file needs editing; > > >>- what directory that file should be in; and > > >>- what syntax is required. > > >>(None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so > > >>I am starting from square 1. No doubt if I read enough docs or > > >>search the web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is > > >>the file), but I can't help but think that one or two "custom" > > >>config files would be just as easy as using gconf, and thus > > >>removing a dependency from what could be ("should be" in my > > >>humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.) > > If I remember correctly, there is an option, probably the > disable-gconf one, to store the configuration of Ekiga in one single > file. AFAIK this work was done for the windows port which lacks > gconf, by Snark. I do not know if you can use it under GNU/Linux. > This option is available for GNU/Linux too. I use it. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-list/2013-May/msg00033.html https://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-list/2013-May/msg00037.html > > > > > Damien is working to replace gconf by gsettings, I think this > > > fixes your concerns, is that right? > > > > Well, maybe. If I knew what the name of my schema was or whether I > > should use schemadir, and what path I want, and the name of the key, > > it would probably be easy to use. But knowing all that probably > > means I could just create the right file in the right place with my > > favourite text editor. > > > > I'm guessing that someone who uses gnome on a regular basis knows > > and can do this stuff in their sleep. However, getting back on the > > "why does ekiga want to be a gnome-specific tool" bandwagon, there > > are those of us who, for one reason or another, don't use gnome. > > And learning a bunch of gnome-specific stuff for one program is > > arguably not time well spent. > > > > Incidentally, if someone wants to update the page > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router > > it says > > How can I easily use Ekiga behind a NAT/PAT gateway? > > > > Ekiga has extensive and improved NAT support thanks to > > STUN. In most cases, you do not have any configuration to > > do, and you can even be reachable from the outside without any > > port forwarding: just run the Configuration Assistant until > > the end. > > which seems to be no longer true. > > > > Cheers. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From cloos at jhcloos.com Sat May 18 08:13:57 2013 From: cloos at jhcloos.com (James Cloos) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 04:13:57 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga rings, but no buttons or menu items let me answer the call In-Reply-To: <5196D6E5.4000601@gathman.org> (Stuart Gathman's message of "Fri, 17 May 2013 21:18:29 -0400") References: <052101ce531c$84ce10d0$8e6a3270$@gmail.com> <51967CCD.9010808@gathman.org> <519686CA.5010809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5196D6E5.4000601@gathman.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "SG" == Stuart Gathman writes: SG> I agree, the notification *is* better visually. *When* it actually SG> works. There *must* be a fallback! The default notification here recent changed from a noticeable black box in the upper right corner to a tiny, soft 50%ish gray blob in the lower right corner. It took about a week (I don't get notifications every day) before I went looking to discover why notifications were gone, and even then finding the new notification window was a pain. I don't want to suggest that ekiga shouldn't use the notification api. But even if the notification provides the full caller and callee details with accept and reject buttons, ekiga's own window must also do so. And it should un-iconify (if needed), raise (if needed) and tell the window manager that it needs attention. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 From etiologie at folkseek.com Sat May 18 14:07:53 2013 From: etiologie at folkseek.com (eti) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 10:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] no debug output Message-ID: <51978B39.1050406@folkseek.com> Using ekiga 2.0.2 and did $ ekiga -d 4 -c sip:500 at ekiga.net It connected okay, but there was no debug output. Also tried calling (changing only the userid in the above command), didn't get a connection and again didn't get debug output. One other thing: How to hang up from the command line? The only thing I could do was to kill the process. Is this acceptable...? or is there another way? Thanks for any clarifications. From bret at busby.net Sat May 18 15:22:39 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 23:22:39 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy In-Reply-To: <20130517170125.52610@gmx.com> References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <519638FF.4040100@member.fsf.org> <20130517170125.52610@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 01:01:25 > From: Genghis Khan > To: Ekiga mailing list > Cc: Bret Busby > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy > > On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:54:45 +0800 (WST) > Bret Busby wrote: > >> A problem that I see with running Debian 5 (I think that I am still >> running it on our firewall/gateway machine, but that is because the >> firewall software, which appears to still work, is now obsolete), is >> that I understand that no updates, security or otherwise, are being >> provided for Debian 5, which would make Debian 5 a vulnerability (I >> think). I could be wrong in that. > > Off topic: Did you refer to FireStarter[1] Firewall? > > [1]: http://fs-security.com/ > Yes. It was about a uear ago, that, in response to a query that I posted on the Firestarter list, someone on the list, advised that Firestarter had been abandoned by its developers and was no longer being maintained. But I think that (whilst I am still doing it, which is wrong) people should not still be running Debian 5, as I believe that it is no longer supported by security and otherwise updates. But, as I said (I think), previously, I could be wrong in that belief. And, as I previously said. the person to whom I was referring, was running Debian 5, so he could keep running GNOME 2.x, but, Debian 6.x, that I am running on this workstation, is also running GNOME 2.x, so the person should (unless some other reason exists) now be running Debian 6.x . -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat May 18 17:55:55 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 19:55:55 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy References: <20130515111633.GG11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <519377C1.2020608@seconix.com> <20130515120745.GH11871@lit.local.igalia.com> <20130515163229.304260@gmx.com> <20130515165118.GA26946@lit.local.igalia.com> <519638FF.4040100@member.fsf.org> <20130517170125.52610@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20130518175556.52580@gmx.com> On Sat, 18 May 2013 23:22:39 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 01:01:25 > > From: Genghis Khan > > To: Ekiga mailing list > > Cc: Bret Busby > > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] GNOME3/2 controversy > > > > On Sat, 18 May 2013 00:54:45 +0800 (WST) > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> A problem that I see with running Debian 5 (I think that I am still > >> running it on our firewall/gateway machine, but that is because the > >> firewall software, which appears to still work, is now obsolete), > >> is that I understand that no updates, security or otherwise, are > >> being provided for Debian 5, which would make Debian 5 a > >> vulnerability (I think). I could be wrong in that. > > > > Off topic: Did you refer to FireStarter[1] Firewall? > > > > [1]: http://fs-security.com/ > > > > Yes. > > It was about a uear ago, that, in response to a query that I posted > on the Firestarter list, someone on the list, advised that > Firestarter had been abandoned by its developers and was no longer > being maintained. FireStarter is a good firewall GUI. Too bad it is still abandoned. Strangely enough, I was reading that very post while I was receiving your message of Sat, 18 May 2013 00:54:45 +0800 (WST). I assume that this is the post in question: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28963553 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28904834 Sorry for digressing. P.S. I am not bored, I read fast ;-) > But I think that (whilst I am still doing it, which is wrong) people > should not still be running Debian 5, as I believe that it is no > longer supported by security and otherwise updates. You are correct. Debian ?lenny? Release Information > Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 has been superseded by Debian 6.0 ("squeeze"). > Security updates have been discontinued as of February 6th, 2012. : http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ Security Support for Debian 5.0 terminated > The Debian project is proud to have been able to support its old > distribution for such a long time and even for one year after a new > version has been released. : http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 Debian ?etch? Release Information > Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 has been superseded by Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 > ("lenny"). Security updates have been discontinued as of the end of > February 2010. : http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ This PR complement note repeats itself.. Security Support for Debian 4.0 to be terminated > The Debian project is proud to be able to support its old > distribution for such a long time and even for one year after a new > version has been released. : http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 P.S. I am not bored, I read fast and recall far ;-) > But, as I said (I think), previously, I could be wrong in that belief. > > And, as I previously said. the person to whom I was referring, was > running Debian 5, so he could keep running GNOME 2.x, but, Debian > 6.x, that I am running on this workstation, is also running GNOME > 2.x, so the person should (unless some other reason exists) now be > running Debian 6.x . Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released > an updated version of the GNOME desktop environment 3.4 : http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 This is unfortunate, I was hoping Debian would be released with Xfce. There is a process to include MATE DE in official debian repository. http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#debian http://packages.debian.org/sid/mate-common > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms -------------- next part -------------- @Readers, the following has nothing to do with Ekiga. This is how I got to that post on the Firestarter mailing list https://github.com/jappix/jappix/issues/258 https://github.com/TrubL https://github.com/ukanth/afwall Bookmarking: AFWall Observing: Firestarter (first listed under Iptables tag) http://fs-security.com/ http://fs-security.com/list.php Checking for activity: http://sourceforge.net/projects/firestarter/ Reading: Posted by OpenID User ??? 2013-03-19 https://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=linux%20firestarter%20abandonded https://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=linux%20firestarter%20abandoned http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.firewalls.firestarter.user/1868 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=7DE15C04-4DCD-4EF2-83CF-95D14E7DF105%40aus-city.com&forum_name=firestarter-user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestarter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestarter_%28firewall%29#cite_note-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firestarter_%28firewall%29&oldid=540412481#cite_note-1 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28963553 From mahto.raj at gmail.com Tue May 21 03:01:44 2013 From: mahto.raj at gmail.com (Raj Mahto) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:31:44 +0530 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration error on ATA Message-ID: Hi, This is in regards to the error that I'm getting while trying to configure Ekiga account on ATA on the same system Ekiga account works like a charm on the softphone. Please provide assistance that why it's not working with the ATA. Awaiting reply. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue May 21 13:26:12 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 15:26:12 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration error on ATA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <519B75F4.4070201@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 21/05/13 05:01, Raj Mahto wrote: > Hi, > > This is in regards to the error that I'm getting while trying to > configure Ekiga account on ATA on the same system Ekiga account works like > a charm on the softphone. > > Please provide assistance that why it's not working with the ATA. Is this old page http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Cisco_ata_18x useful? -- Eugen From etiologie at folkseek.com Tue May 21 18:28:33 2013 From: etiologie at folkseek.com (eti) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 14:28:33 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Getting ekiga to work Message-ID: <519BBCD1.1080507@folkseek.com> I keep getting "Error: User offline" when I try to initiate a chat with anyone, even sip:500 at ekiga.net. How do I get this thing to work? Thanks for the help. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed May 22 14:31:34 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:31:34 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Getting ekiga to work In-Reply-To: <519BBCD1.1080507@folkseek.com> References: <519BBCD1.1080507@folkseek.com> Message-ID: <519CD6C6.50905@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 21/05/13 20:28, eti wrote: > I keep getting "Error: User offline" when I try to initiate a chat with > anyone, even sip:500 at ekiga.net. This simply means that the user is offline. Chat in Ekiga works only if the other user is online, cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Manual#Sending_instant_messages_.28chatting.29 -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed May 22 14:38:41 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:38:41 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] no debug output In-Reply-To: <51978B39.1050406@folkseek.com> References: <51978B39.1050406@folkseek.com> Message-ID: <519CD871.7070904@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 18/05/13 16:07, eti wrote: > Using ekiga 2.0.2 and did > > $ ekiga -d 4 -c sip:500 at ekiga.net > > It connected okay, but there was no debug output. Well, v2 is not maintained anymore since years, so I cannot say why the debug output is not there. > Also tried calling (changing only the userid in the above command), > didn't get a connection and again didn't get debug output. You have to use ekiga v4. > One other thing: How to hang up from the command line? The only thing I > could do was to kill the process. Is this acceptable...? or is there > another way? Calling using command line is not well supported when ekiga is not already started, for ex. ekiga does not wait STUN ending before calling. I suggest to start ekiga, and only afterwards use ekiga -c ... As far as I know, the command line is not to have a text-only ekiga (but only to specify the caller on the command line), so to hang up you still need to press the red button. -- Eugen From arijit.chakraborty at indusnet.co.in Thu May 30 13:48:43 2013 From: arijit.chakraborty at indusnet.co.in (Arijit Chakraborty) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 19:18:43 +0530 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Push to talk service Message-ID: Hi, I have received an SIP address from Ekiga. Can I use it for push to talk service ? Kind Regards Arijit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex.theoto at gmail.com Thu May 30 14:29:43 2013 From: alex.theoto at gmail.com (Alex Theotokatos) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:29:43 +0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Push to talk service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1369924183.9078.3.camel@LenovoN200> Push to talk service? Do you mean that you want to use it as cb or you have a problem with your sound card (non-duplex)? Have you think about install a switch on your microphone? On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 19:18 +0530, Arijit Chakraborty wrote: > Hi, > > I have received an SIP address from Ekiga. Can I use it for push to > talk service ? > > Kind Regards > Arijit > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From arijit.chakraborty at indusnet.co.in Fri May 31 11:23:49 2013 From: arijit.chakraborty at indusnet.co.in (Arijit Chakraborty) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 16:53:49 +0530 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Push to talk service In-Reply-To: <1369924183.9078.3.camel@LenovoN200> References: <1369924183.9078.3.camel@LenovoN200> Message-ID: Hi, We are working on One-to-One Voice communication(half duplex) i.e. Push to talk over cellular(PoC). We are using a SIP client which is available in Android SDK.I have created a SIP account in Ekiga. I tried to register from my mobile SIP client using the already created SIP address. But I recieve an error message "No Host to Route". Can you please let me know that why my client fails to register with your SIP server, what we understand its a free SIP server which you provide right? Kind Regards Arijit On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Alex Theotokatos wrote: > Push to talk service? > Do you mean that you want to use it as cb or you have a problem with > your sound card (non-duplex)? > Have you think about install a switch on your microphone? > > > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 19:18 +0530, Arijit Chakraborty wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have received an SIP address from Ekiga. Can I use it for push to > > talk service ? > > > > Kind Regards > > Arijit > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri May 31 12:06:37 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 14:06:37 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Push to talk service In-Reply-To: References: <1369924183.9078.3.camel@LenovoN200> Message-ID: <51A8924D.3090205@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> To discover why your client fails to register to ekiga.net, we need to see the packets exchanged during registration. Can you send them to us? On 31/05/13 13:23, Arijit Chakraborty wrote: > Hi, > > We are working on One-to-One Voice communication(half duplex) i.e. Push to > talk over cellular(PoC). > > We are using a SIP client which is available in Android SDK.I have created > a SIP account in Ekiga. > > I tried to register from my mobile SIP client using the already created SIP > address. But I recieve an error message "No Host to Route". > > Can you please let me know that why my client fails to register with your > SIP server, what we understand its a free SIP server which you provide > right? > > Kind Regards > Arijit > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Alex Theotokatos wrote: > >> Push to talk service? >> Do you mean that you want to use it as cb or you have a problem with >> your sound card (non-duplex)? >> Have you think about install a switch on your microphone? >> >> >> On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 19:18 +0530, Arijit Chakraborty wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have received an SIP address from Ekiga. Can I use it for push to >>> talk service ? >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Arijit