From pedro at ncf.ca Fri Feb 1 15:23:39 2013 From: pedro at ncf.ca (Pedro C. Peres) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:23:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] could not register Message-ID: <0b004c4f-bed6-4fbb-a2cb-b1b9767683d5@pallando> Hello, I am trying to use Ekiga, but it always fails to register with the sip server. I'm using windows 7 with a d link wbr 2310 router. I've tried everything to open/forward the ports including putting my pc in the DMZ side of the router. Here's the stderr file: http://web.ncf.ca/fj385/stderr/ I would love some help with this. Please and Thank you pedro From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 1 15:27:40 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:27:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] could not register In-Reply-To: <0b004c4f-bed6-4fbb-a2cb-b1b9767683d5@pallando> References: <0b004c4f-bed6-4fbb-a2cb-b1b9767683d5@pallando> Message-ID: <510BDEEC.7060606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 01/02/13 16:23, Pedro C. Peres wrote: > Hello, I am trying to use Ekiga, but it always fails to register with the sip server. > I'm using windows 7 with a d link wbr 2310 router. I've tried everything to open/forward the ports including putting > my pc in the DMZ side of the router. > Here's the stderr file: > > http://web.ncf.ca/fj385/stderr/ There is a strange error on stun. Anyway, please use ekiga 4.0 and if still fails get back to us. -- Eugen From toyman79 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 19:44:10 2013 From: toyman79 at yahoo.com (Toyman) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:44:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] I want to add messages to the ICMP in Ekiga Message-ID: <1359747850.74328.YahooMailNeo@web125004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am new to the Ekiga code and I wanted add some more messages to the ICMP messages . I was looking at the source code for Ekiga and I can't find where the ICMP code is parsed out for evaluation. I noticed it uses OPAL which I have never interacted with either. Can anyone direct me where to go to add ICMP messages to the Ekiga source code. - Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 1 20:22:06 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:22:06 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] I want to add messages to the ICMP in Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1359747850.74328.YahooMailNeo@web125004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1359747850.74328.YahooMailNeo@web125004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <510C23EE.8080502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 01/02/13 20:44, Toyman wrote: > Hello, > I am new to the Ekiga code and I wanted add some more messages to the > ICMP messages . I was looking at the source code for Ekiga and I can't > find where the ICMP code is parsed out for evaluation. I noticed it uses > OPAL which I have never interacted with either. > Can anyone direct me where to go to add ICMP messages to the Ekiga > source code. It is in opal library. What precisely are you trying to do? What do you use ICMP for?! -- Eugen From cloos at jhcloos.com Sat Feb 2 01:19:39 2013 From: cloos at jhcloos.com (James Cloos) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:19:39 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] mem leak and undesired OPTIONS and PUBLISH calls In-Reply-To: <510A3174.7060208@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> (Eugen Dedu's message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:55:16 +0100") References: <51093565.3040909@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <510A3174.7060208@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: >>>>> "ED" == Eugen Dedu writes: ED> With current code it is like this: ED> OPTIONS sip:eugen.dedu at 86.64.162.35 SIP/2.0 ED> However, in From field there is my posix name, I suppose this is ED> normal, do you know if this is true? I get: OPTIONS sip:cloos@[REMOTE_IP] SIP/2.0 ... From: "James Cloos" ;tag=[UUID] The first should be the same address used in the To: header of the matching REGISTER: REGISTER sip:[REMOTE_HOSTNAME] SIP/2.0 From: ;tag=[UUID] To: The OPTIONS requests should look more like the REGISTER requests. Whether it should use the IP addresses as it currently does or the hostnames as REGSITER does I do not know. But the local part certainly should be the same as REGISTER uses. ED> The reason of those OPTIONS is to keep NAT alive, so they should be ED> sent no matter if it gets error or not. It wouldn't get an error if it were using the correct localpart. It also needs to send P-Asserted-Identity: or Remote-Party-ID: on INVITEs and allow it to be specified per-proxy and overrided per-call to ensure accurate outgoing clid. It looks like opal supports them. And thanks for the work on it. Ekiga has come in handy! -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 2 07:41:01 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:41:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ILBC codec in LibOpal Ubuntu and Debian In-Reply-To: <8638xf4rzn.fsf@minignu.minidns.net> References: <8638xf4rzn.fsf@minignu.minidns.net> Message-ID: <510CC30D.8050301@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 01/02/13 22:57, Dima wrote: > Hi, > > iLBC seems to be free and open source starting from 2011, according to the Wikipedia > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilbc I did not know that. > Why LibOpal package in Debian and Ubuntu still has that > > remove_ilbc > > clause > > (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=808565). > > Why not time came to enable ILBC in LibOpal and Ekiga... I will take a look and enable it then. -- Eugen From artsplace1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 15:34:34 2013 From: artsplace1 at gmail.com (Artie A) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:34:34 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ver 4 with Ubuntu? Message-ID: How do I download ver 4? I have wanted to do so for awhile now, because ver 4 fixes a known problem I have. But, the software center only offers a ver 3.x, and nothing more. I'd like to get ekiga installed (working) and skype uninstalled::> TIA Art -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 2 15:36:15 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:36:15 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ver 4 with Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 02/02/13 16:34, Artie A wrote: > How do I download ver 4? I have wanted to do so for awhile now, because ver > 4 fixes a known problem I have. > > But, the software center only offers a ver 3.x, and nothing more. > > I'd like to get ekiga installed (working) and skype uninstalled::> I see it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga -- Eugen From artsplace1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 15:58:42 2013 From: artsplace1 at gmail.com (Artie A) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:58:42 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ver 4 with Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: Is there a compiled version, or do I need to download the source and figure out how to compile? All the links on the url provided appear to only provide the source file. TIA Art On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 02/02/13 16:34, Artie A wrote: > >> How do I download ver 4? I have wanted to do so for awhile now, because >> ver >> 4 fixes a known problem I have. >> >> But, the software center only offers a ver 3.x, and nothing more. >> >> I'd like to get ekiga installed (working) and skype uninstalled::> >> > > I see it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+**source/ekiga > > -- > Eugen > ______________________________**_________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 2 16:08:47 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:08:47 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ver 4 with Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <510D3A0F.9070700@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Click on arrows on that page... On 02/02/13 16:58, Artie A wrote: > Is there a compiled version, or do I need to download the source and figure > out how to compile? > > All the links on the url provided appear to only provide the source file. > > TIA > > Art > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Eugen Dedu> wrote: > >> On 02/02/13 16:34, Artie A wrote: >> >>> How do I download ver 4? I have wanted to do so for awhile now, because >>> ver >>> 4 fixes a known problem I have. >>> >>> But, the software center only offers a ver 3.x, and nothing more. >>> >>> I'd like to get ekiga installed (working) and skype uninstalled::> >>> >> >> I see it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+**source/ekiga From mtbc at ixod.org Sat Feb 2 15:47:56 2013 From: mtbc at ixod.org (Mark Carroll) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:47:56 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ver 4 with Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> (Eugen Dedu's message of "Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:36:15 +0100") References: <510D326F.8020703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <87obg290pf.fsf@ixod.org> This reminds me, also, Debian users can find v4 in "experimental" -- it seems to solve a registration issue I'd been having with 3.2.7. Mark From gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com Sun Feb 3 13:11:42 2013 From: gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com (gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:11:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] build of ekiga for mac Message-ID: <20130203131142.8E3FC510CF1@outside.256.com> I have a friend running MacOS X 10.7.5. Does anyone run ekiga on MacOS? Is it easy to install? ---------- This message was sent from a MailNull anti-spam account. You can get your free account and take control over your email by visiting the following URL. http://mailnull.com/ From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 3 13:56:56 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:56:56 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] build of ekiga for mac In-Reply-To: <20130203131142.8E3FC510CF1@outside.256.com> References: <20130203131142.8E3FC510CF1@outside.256.com> Message-ID: <510E6CA8.5080308@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 03/02/13 14:11, gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com wrote: > I have a friend running MacOS X 10.7.5. > > Does anyone run ekiga on MacOS? Is it easy to install? Unfortunately ekiga does not work on MacOS. But there are other SIP clients on MacOS and ekiga should be compatible with, cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability (a bit old/obsolete still). -- Eugen From roger.boaden at wanadoo.fr Sun Feb 3 16:12:59 2013 From: roger.boaden at wanadoo.fr (Roger Boaden) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:12:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Setup Message-ID: <006401ce0229$55fc0ee0$01f42ca0$@wanadoo.fr> Good Afternoon As a total novice in this area, I would appreciate advice. I have successfully downloaded ekiga-setup-4.0.0 but it will not install for me. I have virus and firewall provided by Norton, which verifies the software, but on clicking on the download instruction I receive the following message: I would appreciate any advice as to how I can prevent this, and successfully complete the installation. Regards Roger Boaden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I suggest to download again the software and check that its size is 20800556 bytes. -- Eugen From janlaugesen at web.de Mon Feb 4 03:22:20 2013 From: janlaugesen at web.de (Jan Laugesen) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 04:22:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: , <50F66C35.50307@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50F6800F.7080606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50F6BF10.6060902@laposte.net> , <50F7BC8E.3090009@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Mon Feb 4 17:32:55 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:32:55 +0100 Subject: No subject References: , <50F6800F.7080606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50F6BF10.6060902@laposte.net> , <50F7BC8E.3090009@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 5 12:00:30 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:00:30 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] mem leak and undesired OPTIONS and PUBLISH calls In-Reply-To: References: <51093565.3040909@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <510A3174.7060208@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5110F45E.8010104@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 02/02/13 02:19, James Cloos wrote: > ED> With current code it is like this: > ED> OPTIONS sip:eugen.dedu at 86.64.162.35 SIP/2.0 > ED> However, in From field there is my posix name, I suppose this is > ED> normal, do you know if this is true? > > I get: > > OPTIONS sip:cloos@[REMOTE_IP] SIP/2.0 > ... > From: "James Cloos";tag=[UUID] > > The first should be the same address used in the To: header of the > matching REGISTER: > > REGISTER sip:[REMOTE_HOSTNAME] SIP/2.0 > From:;tag=[UUID] > To: > > The OPTIONS requests should look more like the REGISTER requests. > > Whether it should use the IP addresses as it currently does or the > hostnames as REGSITER does I do not know. But the local part certainly > should be the same as REGISTER uses. Then please send this problem to opalvoip-user at lists.sourceforge.net mailing list. And be prepared to wait one week, until the developer comes back... > ED> The reason of those OPTIONS is to keep NAT alive, so they should be > ED> sent no matter if it gets error or not. > > It wouldn't get an error if it were using the correct localpart. > > It also needs to send P-Asserted-Identity: or Remote-Party-ID: > on INVITEs and allow it to be specified per-proxy and overrided > per-call to ensure accurate outgoing clid. It looks like opal > supports them. Damien, any idea about this? I would also like to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599889, since opal has support for it. I however noticed on some Web page that Remote-Party-ID is obsolete... > And thanks for the work on it. Ekiga has come in handy! Excellent! -- Eugen From janlaugesen at web.de Tue Feb 5 14:28:04 2013 From: janlaugesen at web.de (Jan Laugesen) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:28:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: , <50F6800F.7080606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50F6BF10.6060902@laposte.net> , <50F7BC8E.3090009@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com Tue Feb 5 14:45:54 2013 From: gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com (gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:45:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] resume audio Message-ID: <20130205144554.17F08510F33@outside.256.com> I am finding that the option "resume audio" is not working. This is available from the "call" menu. Is this a known bug? ---------- This message was sent from a MailNull anti-spam account. You can get your free account and take control over your email by visiting the following URL. http://mailnull.com/ From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 5 15:27:12 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:27:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: References: , <50F6BF10.6060902@laposte.net> , <50F7BC8E.3090009@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <511124D0.4050203@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 05/02/13 15:28, Jan Laugesen wrote: > Hi. First the log in "normal" mode http://pastebin.ca/2310902 > When I quit Ekiga, it says - Ekiga stopped working... > Here is the log with %limit added to the account-name http://pastebin.ca/2310904 Are you sure that in the second case you have %limit in your account name? Rename account to %limit..., quit ekiga and restart it and give the log... > *Gesendet:* Montag, 04. Februar 2013 um 18:32 Uhr > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > Indeed, could you test the smaller file from > http://eugen.dedu.free.fr/ek/ ? Give me the -d 4 log while trying to > register in two cases: when the account *name* (not user) is normal, and > it has %limit inside. > > On 04/02/13 04:22, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > Thanks. Looking forward to the test. > > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013 um 10:06 Uhr > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > I notice a problem which has been solved since 4.0.0 version you use. > > Please wait a few days and I will provide you a .exe to test. > > > > On 31/01/13 04:17, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > Now it ends up saying "unregistered". > > > Here is the log http://pastebin.ca/2309146 > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2013 um 17:03 Uhr > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > The registration should take no more than a few seconds. > > > > > > If this is not the case for you, send me the -d 4 log... > > > > > > On 30/01/13 16:55, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > Hi again. Do you have any idea why it takes long to register? I filled up my > > > > account details yesterday morning, but the status is still "processing". Just > > > > waiting and hoping that it will end up with the status "registered" and that > > > > people are able to hear me clearly. > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 15:51 Uhr > > > > *Von:* "Jan Laugesen" > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > Hey. I tried that also, but it doesn't help. My voice is still very far away. > > > > Just wonder if there is anymore settings I can change. > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 14:11 Uhr > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > Try disabling all audio codecs except PCMU and PCMA when calling them. > > > > Try disabling all video codecs too. > > > > > > > > Does the sound work well on one computer when calling them and on > > > > another one does not? If yes, then there is a (configuration) problem > > > > with the new computer... > > > > > > > > On 21/01/13 12:36, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > The sound is very clear when I call 500 at ekiga.net. I'm using windows 7, > > > even the > > > > > ubuntu sticker is on my laptop. But I think that is not an important info. > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 11:36 Uhr > > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > How is the sound when calling 500 at ekiga.net ? > > > > > > > > > > On 21/01/13 07:05, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My problem is with the 3.2.7 version. It has not been working before on > > this > > > > > > laptop. Since I installed Ekiga on my new laptop some months ago, it > hasn't > > > > been > > > > > > working properly. I have tried the 4.0 version, but it didn't register my > > > > > > account that is why I installed the 3.2.7 via the link u sent me. The > > > alsamixer > > > > > > didn't fix the problem. People are not able to hear me clearly and I > > > think some > > > > > > ppl don't hear me at all that's why they are hanging off. When I use > > the echo > > > > > > test-call a voicemail is saying something like - invalid and goodbye. The > > > > > > provider is in french, that's why I don't understand all. But invalide > > and au > > > > > > revoir means it;s not working ofc. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013 um 09:55 Uhr > > > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > > On 17/01/13 06:04, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > > > Thx for info. Even I enabled those two, ppl are not able to hear me > much. > > > > > > > My voice is far away, they say... > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to precise a bot of context. Do you have this with 4.0 or with > > > > > > 3.2.7? Has it worked before and suddenly you have this problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this sounds like your audio input is not configured > > > > > > properly. Try using alsamixer or gnome's audio settings tool or > > > > > > whatever to increase microphone sensitivity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 um 15:54 Uhr > > > > > > > *Von:* "geo cherchetout" > > > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > > > Le 16/01/2013 15:45, *Jan Laugesen* wrote : > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response :) The problem is that my account says > > > registered, > > > > > > > > but when I > > > > > > > > make an outbound call, the person I'm calling doesn't hear me much. I > > > tried > > > > > > > > with two different > > > > > > > > headsets, but it doesn't make a difference. Is there anything > specific > > > > I can > > > > > > > > do with my settings? > > > > > > > > My boss told me only to enable G711 aLaw and G711uLaw as audio > codecs, > > > > but I > > > > > > > > don't see those two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G711 alaw = PCMA > > > > > > > G711 ulaw = PCMU From jhaiduce at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 15:30:43 2013 From: jhaiduce at gmail.com (John Haiducek) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:30:43 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out Message-ID: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> I have a broadvoice SIP account and an ekiga.net account. I can't connect to either, both say "Remote party host is offline"...usually. Sometimes I get "Security check failed" instead. I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the output because of the size (146 kB). I'd really appreciate any help I can get on this! John From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 5 15:38:10 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:38:10 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out In-Reply-To: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> References: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 05/02/13 16:30, John Haiducek wrote: > I have a broadvoice SIP account and an ekiga.net account. I can't > connect to either, both say "Remote party host is offline"...usually. > Sometimes I get "Security check failed" instead. You have probably a firewall which prevents ekiga packets to get in/out, do you have information on that? > I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the output > because of the size (146 kB). Compress it with gzip and resend it, and put me in CC. -- Eugen From jhaiduce at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 16:59:25 2013 From: jhaiduce at gmail.com (John Haiducek) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out In-Reply-To: <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 05/02/13 16:30, John Haiducek wrote: > >> I have a broadvoice SIP account and an ekiga.net account. I can't >> connect to either, both say "Remote party host is offline"...usually. >> Sometimes I get "Security check failed" instead. >> > > You have probably a firewall which prevents ekiga packets to get in/out, > do you have information on that? I double and triple checked my firewall logs and didn't find any dropped packets that looked Ekiga related. I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the output >> because of the size (146 kB). >> > > > Compress it with gzip and resend it, and put me in CC. > Ah, so simple! I will send this evening after I get home from work. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Tue Feb 5 19:41:29 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:41:29 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] resume audio References: <20130205144554.17F08510F33@outside.256.com> Message-ID: <20130205194133.89970@gmx.com> Hello, This has occurred to me too when I used Ekiga-GStreamer. On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:45:54 -0500 (EST) gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com wrote: > I am finding that the option "resume audio" is not working. > > This is available from the "call" menu. > > Is this a known bug? > > ---------- > This message was sent from a MailNull anti-spam account. You can get > your free account and take control over your email by visiting the > following URL. > > http://mailnull.com/ > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From janlaugesen at web.de Wed Feb 6 00:32:53 2013 From: janlaugesen at web.de (Jan Laugesen) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:32:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: <511124D0.4050203@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: , <50F6BF10.6060902@laposte.net> , <50F7BC8E.3090009@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <511124D0.4050203@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please do not remove lines from previous e-mail when replying, so that I know faster what the e-mail is about. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 6 11:37:56 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:37:56 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: References: , , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <511124D0.4050203@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <51124094.5070804@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Indeed, the log is ok now. Unfortunately, I cannot help you. Your problem is that in both cases the firewall changes packets. Moreover, your NAT is a symmetric one, which poses challanges to VoIP programs. You have to configure the firewall/router not to change SIP packets. The only other solution I see is that you give me a log with ekiga 3.2.7 where registration worked, for comparision purposes. On 06/02/13 01:32, Jan Laugesen wrote: > Hmmm, seems I have been adding the %limit to the account-name sry, but now > it should be right with the %limit only. Here is the normal mode > http://pastebin.ca/2310902 > and the %limit mode http://pastebin.ca/2311030. > > Thanks > > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 05. Februar 2013 um 16:27 Uhr > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > On 05/02/13 15:28, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > Hi. First the log in "normal" mode http://pastebin.ca/2310902 > > When I quit Ekiga, it says - Ekiga stopped working... > > Here is the log with %limit added to the account-name http://pastebin.ca/2310904 > > Are you sure that in the second case you have %limit in your account > name? Rename account to %limit..., quit ekiga and restart it and give > the log... > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 04. Februar 2013 um 18:32 Uhr > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > Indeed, could you test the smaller file from > > http://eugen.dedu.free.fr/ek/ ? Give me the -d 4 log while trying to > > register in two cases: when the account *name* (not user) is normal, and > > it has %limit inside. > > > > On 04/02/13 04:22, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > Thanks. Looking forward to the test. > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013 um 10:06 Uhr > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > I notice a problem which has been solved since 4.0.0 version you use. > > > Please wait a few days and I will provide you a .exe to test. > > > > > > On 31/01/13 04:17, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > Now it ends up saying "unregistered". > > > > Here is the log http://pastebin.ca/2309146 > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2013 um 17:03 Uhr > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > The registration should take no more than a few seconds. > > > > > > > > If this is not the case for you, send me the -d 4 log... > > > > > > > > On 30/01/13 16:55, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > Hi again. Do you have any idea why it takes long to register? I filled > up my > > > > > account details yesterday morning, but the status is still > "processing". Just > > > > > waiting and hoping that it will end up with the status "registered" and > that > > > > > people are able to hear me clearly. > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 15:51 Uhr > > > > > *Von:* "Jan Laugesen" > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > Hey. I tried that also, but it doesn't help. My voice is still very far > away. > > > > > Just wonder if there is anymore settings I can change. > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 14:11 Uhr > > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > Try disabling all audio codecs except PCMU and PCMA when calling them. > > > > > Try disabling all video codecs too. > > > > > > > > > > Does the sound work well on one computer when calling them and on > > > > > another one does not? If yes, then there is a (configuration) problem > > > > > with the new computer... > > > > > > > > > > On 21/01/13 12:36, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > > The sound is very clear when I call 500 at ekiga.net. I'm using windows 7, > > > > even the > > > > > > ubuntu sticker is on my laptop. But I think that is not an important > info. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 21. Januar 2013 um 11:36 Uhr > > > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > > How is the sound when calling 500 at ekiga.net ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/01/13 07:05, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > My problem is with the 3.2.7 version. It has not been working before on > > > this > > > > > > > laptop. Since I installed Ekiga on my new laptop some months ago, it > > hasn't > > > > > been > > > > > > > working properly. I have tried the 4.0 version, but it didn't > register my > > > > > > > account that is why I installed the 3.2.7 via the link u sent me. The > > > > alsamixer > > > > > > > didn't fix the problem. People are not able to hear me clearly and I > > > > think some > > > > > > > ppl don't hear me at all that's why they are hanging off. When I use > > > the echo > > > > > > > test-call a voicemail is saying something like - invalid and > goodbye. The > > > > > > > provider is in french, that's why I don't understand all. But invalide > > > and au > > > > > > > revoir means it;s not working ofc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013 um 09:55 Uhr > > > > > > > *Von:* "Eugen Dedu" > > > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > > > On 17/01/13 06:04, Jan Laugesen wrote: > > > > > > > > Thx for info. Even I enabled those two, ppl are not able to hear me > > much. > > > > > > > > My voice is far away, they say... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to precise a bot of context. Do you have this with 4.0 or with > > > > > > > 3.2.7? Has it worked before and suddenly you have this problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, this sounds like your audio input is not configured > > > > > > > properly. Try using alsamixer or gnome's audio settings tool or > > > > > > > whatever to increase microphone sensitivity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 um 15:54 Uhr > > > > > > > > *Von:* "geo cherchetout" > > > > > > > > *An:* "Ekiga mailing list" > > > > > > > > *Betreff:* Re: [Ekiga-list] Log > > > > > > > > Le 16/01/2013 15:45, *Jan Laugesen* wrote : > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response :) The problem is that my account says > > > > registered, > > > > > > > > > but when I > > > > > > > > > make an outbound call, the person I'm calling doesn't hear me > much. I > > > > tried > > > > > > > > > with two different > > > > > > > > > headsets, but it doesn't make a difference. Is there anything > > specific > > > > > I can > > > > > > > > > do with my settings? > > > > > > > > > My boss told me only to enable G711 aLaw and G711uLaw as audio > > codecs, > > > > > but I > > > > > > > > > don't see those two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G711 alaw = PCMA > > > > > > > > G711 ulaw = PCMU From janlaugesen at web.de Wed Feb 6 12:19:55 2013 From: janlaugesen at web.de (Jan Laugesen) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:19:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Log In-Reply-To: <51124094.5070804@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: , , <50FD1A10.3040908@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <50FD3E76.1080807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>, , <51094460.1070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510A340E.6000103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <510FF0C7.5090901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <511124D0.4050203@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> , <51124094.5070804@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at dawoodfall.net Fri Feb 8 04:55:42 2013 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:55:42 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? Message-ID: <20130208045542.GB11192@Blackswan> Is there a way of starting Ekiga minimised? It's a bit annoying to have it jump up as a window when starting WM. -- When all you have is a Swiss Army Knife, every problem looks like email. -- Peter da Silva From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 8 06:44:12 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:44:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? In-Reply-To: <20130208045542.GB11192@Blackswan> References: <20130208045542.GB11192@Blackswan> Message-ID: <51149EBC.4010604@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 08/02/13 05:55, David Woodfall wrote: > Is there a way of starting Ekiga minimised? It's a bit annoying to > have it jump up as a window when starting WM. This feature has been removed, because it was thought as unnecessary. Could you explain more why do you think it is useful? Also, do you use Windows or Linux? -- Eugen From pedro at ncf.ca Fri Feb 8 13:13:44 2013 From: pedro at ncf.ca (Pedro C. Peres) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:13:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? In-Reply-To: <51149EBC.4010604@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <8bca48ce-603b-49d0-b4a6-b846440c55b2@pallando> Hello Eugen, Ekiga works for me with version 4, formerly I could not get it to register, Nice work. I was searching the forums for how to remove the picture in picture when in full screen mode and noticed that it was not currently a feature. I would vote to include that feature in future releases. In my work environment, the information infrastructure will not allow the port forwarding necessary to make h.323 or sip calls. The network does however pass video traffic via http I'm guessing to and from the Cisco Webex service. I'm wondering if you know of any service providers that would translate the one form of traffic to the other in order to facilitate communication between my endpoint and the h.323 world. Best Regards Pedro From redseared at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 19:28:59 2013 From: redseared at yahoo.com (paul carpenter) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:28:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] area code problem Message-ID: <1360351739.8005.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have been using ekiga with diamond card for a few weeks now with amazing success. Except for a few minor problems, everything is working well. However, there is one strange problem that I can't figure out and I hope someone can help. I am trying to call Albany, New York. The area code is 518. Ekiga simply will not work with this area code. I have called many different area codes in the US with no problem, but it is just this one area code that seems to cause trouble. What happens is that I immediately get a "call completed" message without the call ever having gone through. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 8 19:41:42 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:41:42 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] area code problem In-Reply-To: <1360351739.8005.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360351739.8005.YahooMailNeo@web120506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511554F6.8020903@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 08/02/13 20:28, paul carpenter wrote: > I have been using ekiga with diamond card for a few weeks now with amazing success. Except for a few minor problems, everything is working well. Glad to hear that! You can also share with us the the minor problems. > However, there is one strange problem that I can't figure out and I hope someone can help. > > I am trying to call Albany, New York. The area code is 518. Ekiga simply will not work with this area code. I have called many different area codes in the US with no problem, but it is just this one area code that seems to cause trouble. > > What happens is that I immediately get a "call completed" message without the call ever having gone through. You have to send us/me a -d 4 log. -- Eugen From jhaiduce at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 04:04:29 2013 From: jhaiduce at gmail.com (John Haiducek) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out In-Reply-To: <511498CF.8060504@gmail.com> References: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5111F261.1010903@gmail.com> <51123F30.3030501@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <511498CF.8060504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5115CACD.90900@gmail.com> On 02/07/2013 11:18 PM, John Haiducek wrote: > On 02/06/2013 04:32 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> On 06/02/13 07:04, John Haiducek wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 02/05/2013 09:59 AM, John Haiducek wrote: >>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Eugen Dedu >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 05/02/13 16:30, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>>> I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the >>>>>> output >>>>>> because of the size (146 kB). >>>>> Compress it with gzip and resend it, and put me in CC. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> Ok, here's the output from ekiga -d 4, compressed now. >> >> You must enable "Enable network detection" in Preferences. >> >> Please do not remove lines from previous e-mail when replying, so >> that I know faster what the e-mail is about. >> > > I tried turning on "Enable network detection," but that didn't seem to > help. I've attached the output from "ekiga -d 4" with "Enable network > detection" turned on. The message in the GUI says "Could not register > (remote party host is offline)." I am forwarding ports 1720, > 5060-5100, and 10000-20000, does it really make sense to turn on > network detection? Ok, it turns out my firewall was blocking some packets, but that's no longer the case. With that fixed, I have now tried running ekiga with and without network detection turned on. No luck either way, it still says "Could not register (remote party host is offline)"...most of the time. Sometimes I get "Security check failed" or "No common codec" instead. I've attached log files for the "with network detection" and "without network detection" cases. John -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems strange that I automatically get this message: 'sip:xxxxxx at sip.diamondcard.us' subscribing to presence of 'sip:001818xxxxxxx' ?I do see other messages like 'sip:username at ekiga.net' subscribing to presence of 'sip:0018555095253', but this is understandable since 855 is a toll free number. sip:001818xxxxxxx is not the number of an 855 or 877 number (presumably used by ekiga or diamondcard as a utility to route calls), but an 818 number of a friend in California. There are no other instances of this kind of thing on the log file. So that is a little disturbing. 3.? The main problem that I have had with ekiga (besides not being able to get through to the 518 area code) is that callers on the other end sometimes complain of an echo. When I do the echotest callback in Ekiga, I sound fine. And generally, I hear other people very clearly on my end. But several people have complained of a distracting echo on the other end.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 9 12:56:23 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:56:23 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? In-Reply-To: <8bca48ce-603b-49d0-b4a6-b846440c55b2@pallando> References: <8bca48ce-603b-49d0-b4a6-b846440c55b2@pallando> Message-ID: <51164777.3060006@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 08/02/13 14:13, Pedro C. Peres wrote: > > Hello Eugen, > Ekiga works for me with version 4, formerly I could not get it to register, Nice work. > I was searching the forums for how to remove the picture in picture when in full screen mode and noticed that > it was not currently a feature. I would vote to include that feature in future releases. What precisely do you want? Do you want to have two fullscreen modes: pip and remote screen? > In my work environment, the information infrastructure will not allow the port forwarding necessary to make h.323 or sip calls. The network does however pass video traffic via http I'm guessing to and from the Cisco Webex service. I'm wondering if you know of any service providers that would translate the one form of traffic to the other in order to facilitate communication between my endpoint and the h.323 world. I do not know, maybe someone else on this list does. -- Eugen From pedro at ncf.ca Sat Feb 9 15:30:24 2013 From: pedro at ncf.ca (Pedro C. Peres) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:30:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? In-Reply-To: <51164777.3060006@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <480b1b53-a74d-47c1-b031-35615b159698@pallando> On 08/02/13 14:13, Pedro C. Peres wrote: > > Hello Eugen, > Ekiga works for me with version 4, formerly I could not get it to register, Nice work. > I was searching the forums for how to remove the picture in picture when in full screen mode and noticed that > it was not currently a feature. I would vote to include that feature in future releases. What precisely do you want? Do you want to have two fullscreen modes: pip and remote screen? Yes, I think that would be a good feature. > In my work environment, the information infrastructure will not allow the port forwarding necessary to make h.323 or sip calls. The network does however pass video traffic via http I'm guessing to and from the Cisco Webex service. I'm wondering if you know of any service providers that would translate the one form of traffic to the other in order to facilitate communication between my endpoint and the h.323 world. I do not know, maybe someone else on this list does. I think I'm asking for the moon on this one, thanks though. -- Eugen _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sun Feb 10 10:46:24 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:46:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Start Minimised? References: <20130208045542.GB11192@Blackswan> <51149EBC.4010604@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <20130210104625.106190@gmx.com> Hello Eugen, ??????: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:44:12 +0100 ????: Eugen Dedu > On 08/02/13 05:55, David Woodfall wrote: > > Is there a way of starting Ekiga minimised? It's a bit annoying to > > have it jump up as a window when starting WM. > > This feature has been removed, because it was thought as unnecessary. > Could you explain more why do you think it is useful? Also, do you > use Windows or Linux? > I use Slackware Linux (Fluxbox), and I would guess that Mr. Woodfall does use Linux as well due to writing-down the phrase Window Manager (WM), not Microsoft Windows. Though, WM such as Blackbox and Fluxbox are available for Microsoft Windows too. I would also vote to have this feature again. This is useful for people who are usually running Ekiga mostly for incoming calls, especially after they start up their system. * To me, because of the above, it seems strange not having such feature. -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Feb 10 15:17:31 2013 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:17:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] area code problem In-Reply-To: <1360389155.27409.YahooMailNeo@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360389155.27409.YahooMailNeo@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5117BA0B.80200@seconix.com> Le 09/02/13 06:52, paul carpenter a ?crit : > 1. Isn't it somewhat of a security risk to post the entire log file > to a mailing list? This kind of telephone logfile seems like it might > contain sensitive information like my diamondcard account number. > You can send it privately to Eugen. > 2. It seems strange that I automatically get this message: > > 'sip:xxxxxx at sip.diamondcard.us' subscribing to presence of > 'sip:001818xxxxxxx' > > I do see other messages like 'sip:username at ekiga.net' subscribing to > presence of 'sip:0018555095253', but this is understandable since 855 > is a toll free number. > > sip:001818xxxxxxx is not the number of an 855 or 877 number > (presumably used by ekiga or diamondcard as a utility to route calls), > but an 818 number of a friend in California. > > There are no other instances of this kind of thing on the log file. So > that is a little disturbing. > That is not a problem, that is because it is in your roster. The server will reject it. > 3. The main problem that I have had with ekiga (besides not being > able to get through to the 518 area code) is that callers on the other > end sometimes complain of an echo. When I do the echotest callback in > Ekiga, I sound fine. And generally, I hear other people very clearly > on my end. But several people have complained of a distracting echo on > the other end. Are you using a headset ? With a good quality headset, it should work. Damien -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 10 20:44:13 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] area code problem In-Reply-To: <1360389155.27409.YahooMailNeo@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360389155.27409.YahooMailNeo@web120503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5118069D.7020708@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 09/02/13 06:52, paul carpenter wrote: > 1. Isn't it somewhat of a security risk to post the entire log file to a mailing list? This kind of telephone logfile seems like it might contain sensitive information like my diamondcard account number. People who care about sensitive information can replace it, see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output Or send it to me. > 3. The main problem that I have had with ekiga (besides not being able to get through to the 518 area code) is that callers on the other end sometimes complain of an echo. When I do the echotest callback in Ekiga, I sound fine. And generally, I hear other people very clearly on my end. But several people have complained of a distracting echo on the other end. With a headset this problem disappears. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 10 20:50:31 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:50:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out In-Reply-To: <5115CACD.90900@gmail.com> References: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5111F261.1010903@gmail.com> <51123F30.3030501@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <511498CF.8060504@gmail.com> <5115CACD.90900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51180817.3060805@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 09/02/13 05:04, John Haiducek wrote: > On 02/07/2013 11:18 PM, John Haiducek wrote: >> On 02/06/2013 04:32 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> On 06/02/13 07:04, John Haiducek wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/05/2013 09:59 AM, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Eugen Dedu >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 05/02/13 16:30, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>>>> I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the >>>>>>> output >>>>>>> because of the size (146 kB). >>>>>> Compress it with gzip and resend it, and put me in CC. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, here's the output from ekiga -d 4, compressed now. >>> >>> You must enable "Enable network detection" in Preferences. >>> >>> Please do not remove lines from previous e-mail when replying, so >>> that I know faster what the e-mail is about. >>> >> >> I tried turning on "Enable network detection," but that didn't seem to >> help. I've attached the output from "ekiga -d 4" with "Enable network >> detection" turned on. The message in the GUI says "Could not register >> (remote party host is offline)." I am forwarding ports 1720, >> 5060-5100, and 10000-20000, does it really make sense to turn on >> network detection? > > Ok, it turns out my firewall was blocking some packets, but that's no > longer the case. With that fixed, I have now tried running ekiga with > and without network detection turned on. No luck either way, it still > says "Could not register (remote party host is offline)"...most of the > time. Sometimes I get "Security check failed" or "No common codec" > instead. I've attached log files for the "with network detection" and > "without network detection" cases. You are behind a symmetric nat, as you noticed from the dialog box whichappears to you upon starting. See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 for more information. Apart STUN, no answer is received from your registrar, in both cases. This is likely to be because the symmetric nat. The only thing I can tell, sorry, is to check whether your firewall/router drops packets. -- Eugen From jerome.bouat at wanadoo.fr Sun Feb 10 21:09:44 2013 From: jerome.bouat at wanadoo.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Bouat?=) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:09:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] desktop view sharing Message-ID: <51180C98.5040504@wanadoo.fr> Hello, Does any Ekiga version supports desktop view sharing (like Skype does) ? Thanks. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 10 21:12:29 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:12:29 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] desktop view sharing In-Reply-To: <51180C98.5040504@wanadoo.fr> References: <51180C98.5040504@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <51180D3D.2040106@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 10/02/13 22:09, J?r?me Bouat wrote: > Hello, > > Does any Ekiga version supports desktop view sharing (like Skype does) ? Unfortunately no, but it is a useful feature indeed, there is a bug report for that too. -- Eugen From tron at hotbox.ru Tue Feb 12 00:22:45 2013 From: tron at hotbox.ru (Tron) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:45 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] test1 Message-ID: <51198B55.3040506@hotbox.ru> t1 From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Tue Feb 12 11:14:17 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:14:17 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] test1 References: <51198B55.3040506@hotbox.ru> Message-ID: <20130212111420.124130@gmx.com> Pass! :-) -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From jhaiduce at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 14:17:33 2013 From: jhaiduce at gmail.com (John Haiducek) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:17:33 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Can't connect out In-Reply-To: <51180817.3060805@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511125A3.5070801@gmail.com> <51112762.30605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5111F261.1010903@gmail.com> <51123F30.3030501@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <511498CF.8060504@gmail.com> <5115CACD.90900@gmail.com> <51180817.3060805@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <511A4EFD.9060603@gmail.com> On 02/10/2013 01:50 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 09/02/13 05:04, John Haiducek wrote: >> On 02/07/2013 11:18 PM, John Haiducek wrote: >>> On 02/06/2013 04:32 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> On 06/02/13 07:04, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/05/2013 09:59 AM, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Eugen Dedu >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/02/13 16:30, John Haiducek wrote: >>>>>>>> I tried "ekiga -d 4", but the listserv doesn't let me attach the >>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>> because of the size (146 kB). >>>>>>> Compress it with gzip and resend it, and put me in CC. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, here's the output from ekiga -d 4, compressed now. >>>> >>>> You must enable "Enable network detection" in Preferences. >>>> >>>> Please do not remove lines from previous e-mail when replying, so >>>> that I know faster what the e-mail is about. >>>> >>> >>> I tried turning on "Enable network detection," but that didn't seem to >>> help. I've attached the output from "ekiga -d 4" with "Enable network >>> detection" turned on. The message in the GUI says "Could not register >>> (remote party host is offline)." I am forwarding ports 1720, >>> 5060-5100, and 10000-20000, does it really make sense to turn on >>> network detection? >> >> Ok, it turns out my firewall was blocking some packets, but that's no >> longer the case. With that fixed, I have now tried running ekiga with >> and without network detection turned on. No luck either way, it still >> says "Could not register (remote party host is offline)"...most of the >> time. Sometimes I get "Security check failed" or "No common codec" >> instead. I've attached log files for the "with network detection" and >> "without network detection" cases. > > You are behind a symmetric nat, as you noticed from the dialog box > whichappears to you upon starting. See > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 > for more information. > > Apart STUN, no answer is received from your registrar, in both cases. > This is likely to be because the symmetric nat. > > The only thing I can tell, sorry, is to check whether your > firewall/router drops packets. > Well, the problem was the firewall as you said. I finally tried running ekiga /from/ the firewall and it works there. I could find no working firewall configuration after hours of trying. The iptables rules for port forwarding looked correct, the firewall wasn't logging /any/ dropped packets, yet the SIP replies never made it to the client. I finally gave up on configuring the firewall and set up an asterisk server on the firewall to relay calls between the local network and my SIP provider. Thank you for your help. 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In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message from appearing? 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things work, I wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book was unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the day and am in GMT - 8 )? 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I enabled echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy the whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! 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I need info on paid service for non-video calls ? rates, > plans, etc. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/FAQ But better to take a look at the whole wiki site. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 12 20:19:40 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:19:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote: > Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions: > > 1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error message: > > http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/ > > I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that > they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops > up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is > everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message from > appearing? Check whether you can be called too. See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 for some information. > 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things work, I > wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book was > unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available > for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the day and > am in GMT - 8 )? > > 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I enabled > echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? Echo cancellation is not high quality. Buy a headset. > 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy the > whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation. -- Eugen From polaris at vfemail.net Wed Feb 13 04:58:41 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:58:41 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511B1D81.8040604@vfemail.net> Eugen Dedu suggested that first I must check whether I can be called to. So could someone please call me tomorrow at sip:tron7 at ekiga.net after 5 pm by GMT - 8 time ? If unable to connect with me, please make a note of the time of your attempt on the list. Much appreciated! Tron. ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Wed Feb 13 08:04:29 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:04:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <511B1D81.8040604@vfemail.net> References: <511B1D81.8040604@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <1360742669.70010.YahooMailNeo@web161601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ? I would be happy to try but I need to know what date. el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net ________________________________ De: Polaris Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org Enviado: Mi?rcoles 13 de febrero de 2013 14:28 Asunto: Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions ? Eugen Dedu suggested that first I must check whether I can be called to.? So could someone please call me tomorrow at sip:tron7 at ekiga.net after 5 pm by GMT - 8 time ? If unable to connect with me, please make a note of the time of your attempt on the list. Much appreciated! 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But the local part certainly > should be the same as REGISTER uses. This has just been fixed, will be in 4.0.1. > ED> The reason of those OPTIONS is to keep NAT alive, so they should be > ED> sent no matter if it gets error or not. > > It wouldn't get an error if it were using the correct localpart. > > It also needs to send P-Asserted-Identity: or Remote-Party-ID: > on INVITEs and allow it to be specified per-proxy and overrided > per-call to ensure accurate outgoing clid. It looks like opal > supports them. Could you please send another e-mail with this issue? -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 13 12:52:00 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:52:00 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Peer removal issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511B8C70.6030103@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 30/01/13 23:14, James Cloos wrote: > I added a new peer to ekiga's config, specifying that it should register > with the remote proxy. > > That proxy turned out to be down, so status column in the accounts > dialog never progressed from processing to registered. > > I deleted the account via the Remove button in the accounts dialog. > > That did remove the details from the config file, but I saw continued > attempts to register to that proxy in an ongoing wireshark trace. > > Pointing ekiga at a box which pings but does not listen on ports 5060 or > 5061 ought to duplicate what I saw. This is fixed with http://git.gnome.org/browse/ekiga/commit/?id=27dd15641347, thank you! -- Eugen From darren at ballegeer.net Wed Feb 13 13:53:54 2013 From: darren at ballegeer.net (Darren Ballegeer) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:53:54 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please In-Reply-To: <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <007901ce0953$eaf51970$c0df4c50$@ballegeer.net> <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> Link doesn?t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise... -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:18 PM To: Ekiga mailing list Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please On 12/02/13 20:05, Darren Ballegeer wrote: > Hi, I see that an FAQ is referenced on your website but no link, etc. > How can I view it? I need info on paid service for non-video calls ? > rates, plans, etc. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/FAQ But better to take a look at the whole wiki site. -- Eugen _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From sevmek at free.fr Wed Feb 13 18:25:12 2013 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:25:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please In-Reply-To: <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> References: <007901ce0953$eaf51970$c0df4c50$@ballegeer.net> <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> Message-ID: <1360779912.3339.0.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le mercredi 13 f?vrier 2013 ? 05:53 -0800, Darren Ballegeer a ?crit : > Link doesn?t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise... That's weird, here the link works. The main entrance is here : http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page > > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:18 PM > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please > > On 12/02/13 20:05, Darren Ballegeer wrote: > > Hi, I see that an FAQ is referenced on your website but no link, etc. > > How can I view it? I need info on paid service for non-video calls ? > > rates, plans, etc. > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/FAQ > > But better to take a look at the whole wiki site. > > -- > Eugen > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 13 19:58:10 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:58:10 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] resume audio In-Reply-To: <20130205144554.17F08510F33@outside.256.com> References: <20130205144554.17F08510F33@outside.256.com> Message-ID: <511BF052.3000707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 05/02/13 15:45, gideon425.ekiga at mailnull.com wrote: > I am finding that the option "resume audio" is not working. > > This is available from the "call" menu. > > Is this a known bug? Indeed, it is not working. We will look into it. -- Eugen From glen at exemail.com.au Wed Feb 13 20:25:07 2013 From: glen at exemail.com.au (Glen Cunningham) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:25:07 +1100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please In-Reply-To: <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> References: <007901ce0953$eaf51970$c0df4c50$@ballegeer.net> <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> Message-ID: <201302140725.07968.glen@exemail.com.au> G'day Darren, On Thursday 14 February 2013 00:53:54 Darren Ballegeer wrote: > Link doesn?t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise... On the main page Underneath the heading "Documentation" there are 5 links, the first one is marked "Frequently Asked Questions". Try that. G. From stuart at gathman.org Thu Feb 14 04:49:35 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart Gathman) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:49:35 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga-4.0.0 usability problems Message-ID: <511C6CDF.4050704@gathman.org> 1. you can't use the keyboard to enter touch tones, you have to use the mouse - even when the "keypad" tab is active. 2. you can't use the mouse to dial phone numbers on the keypad tab, you have to use the keyboard 3. you cannot return calls from the incoming call log - I'm not sure if there is enough information to fix this totally, but it should at least be possible to extract the phone number and use it with a default or chosen VOIP account. It probably works for username at ekiga.net and other non POTS domains, but making POTS calls is still a big use of ekiga 4. you cannot enter just a phone number in the contact list (to be used with a default or chosen VOIP account when dialed). From IMMO.WETZEL at adtran.com Thu Feb 14 15:05:12 2013 From: IMMO.WETZEL at adtran.com (IMMO WETZEL) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:05:12 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ldap search - timeout to long or work with temporary results on AD LDAP Message-ID: HI, I trying the LDAP search from ekiga. But its takes to long till the unbind from ldap stops the search after 55s and the results are presented. Are there any way to configure the timeout ? Or better way would be to present and make the results available during the ldap task is still waiting for the timeout ? Or is the fault just not to process the complete message ? Lightweight Directory Access Protocol LDAPMessage searchResEntry(2) "CN=KLAUS KLAUSSEN,OU=Grummel,OU=Accounts,DC=corp,DC=comp,DC=com" [1 result] messageID: 2 protocolOp: searchResEntry (4) searchResEntry objectName: CN=KLAUS KLAUSSEN,OU=Grummel,OU=Accounts,DC=corp,DC=comp,DC=com attributes: 2 items PartialAttributeList item cn type: cn vals: 1 item AttributeValue: KLAUS KLAUSSEN PartialAttributeList item telephoneNumber type: telephoneNumber vals: 1 item AttributeValue: 182 [Response To: 289] [Time: 1.265950000 seconds] Lightweight Directory Access Protocol LDAPMessage searchResRef(2) messageID: 2 protocolOp: searchResRef (19) searchResRef: 1 item LDAPURL: ldap://corp.comp.com/CN=Configuration,DC=corp,DC=comp,DC=com [Response To: 289] [Time: 1.265950000 seconds] Lightweight Directory Access Protocol LDAPMessage searchResDone(2) success [1 result] messageID: 2 protocolOp: searchResDone (5) searchResDone resultCode: success (0) matchedDN: errorMessage: [Response To: 289] [Time: 1.265950000 seconds] The last LDAP message "searchResDone" should point out that the search is finished. 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URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 15 11:31:31 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:31:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] how to set default to my own sip server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511E1C93.5050107@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 15/02/13 12:21, IMMO WETZEL wrote: > If I input a number on the dial pad size it isn't used to my own sip server. I always have to add the @IP entry. How can I define a default sip server ? Unfortunately it is not possible. We plan to implement it. -- Eugen From darren at ballegeer.net Fri Feb 15 12:16:43 2013 From: darren at ballegeer.net (Darren Ballegeer) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:16:43 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please In-Reply-To: <201302140725.07968.glen@exemail.com.au> References: <007901ce0953$eaf51970$c0df4c50$@ballegeer.net> <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> <201302140725.07968.glen@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <004f01ce0b76$52161b30$f6425190$@ballegeer.net> Sorry for my blindness. I went thru the FAQ, but still need to know if I can use Ekiga to make phone calls from my PC. To non-tech folk like me, the scope of the ekiga service is not clear. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Glen Cunningham Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:25 PM To: ekiga-list at gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please G'day Darren, On Thursday 14 February 2013 00:53:54 Darren Ballegeer wrote: > Link doesn?t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise... On the main page Underneath the heading "Documentation" there are 5 links, the first one is marked "Frequently Asked Questions". Try that. G. _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 03:03:00 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today Message-ID: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. 2. We were able to converse. 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each other at all? 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to each other. ? Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Sat Feb 16 07:16:24 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:16:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Hello, On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul wrote: > I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used > Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. > > 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga > 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues which make Ekiga to freeze. > 2. We were able to converse. > > 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to > see video of himself. Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? > 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more > than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software > uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe > Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each > other at all? a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not communicate. On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 Justin Karneges wrote: > I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be > compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex > codec is "speex" and not "SPEEX". Psi therefore uses the wrong codec > name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with > other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the > wrong codec name to Psi. http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html b. It is also possible to use different software that use different protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle to land-line; SIP <-> land-line <-> Skype). There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them are available for the public since Microsoft took over . c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking BitTorrent traffic of it . > 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft > Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most > people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or > Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to > choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to > each other. I think just like you :-) Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for example, do work under all three platforms. > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 > Parap > NT 0804 > Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From polaris at vfemail.net Sat Feb 16 23:03:55 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:03:55 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> Re #1: I was able to call another Ekiga user and had him call me. We were able to repeat that several times; therefore the right ports are open - yet I keep getting the same annoying error message every time Ekiga starts. [the problems in our connections were described on the thread: 'Ekiga test today'] What to do next? Re #3: Is echo problem common place with Ekiga and is a head set the only way to eliminate it? Regarding Video Quality: My camera supports res up to 720p, Ekiga is suppose to support up to 480p but the picture I observed on my screen was rather poor. Besides lighting, is there anything I can do to improve the picture? On 2/12/2013 12:19 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote: >> Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions: >> >> 1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error >> message: >> >> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/ >> >> I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that >> they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops >> up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is >> everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message from >> appearing? > > Check whether you can be called too. See > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 > for some information. > >> 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things work, I >> wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book was >> unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available >> for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the day and >> am in GMT - 8 )? >> >> 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I enabled >> echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? > > Echo cancellation is not high quality. Buy a headset. > >> 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy the >> whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? > > Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation. > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From polaris at vfemail.net Sat Feb 16 23:08:57 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:08:57 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Message-ID: <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and "loop back video" problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? Thanks, sip:tron7 at ekiga.net On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) > el_gallo_azul wrote: > >> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used >> Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. >> >> 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga >> 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. > Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? > As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues > which make Ekiga to freeze. > >> 2. We were able to converse. >> >> 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to >> see video of himself. > Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? > >> 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more >> than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software >> uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe >> Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each >> other at all? > a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. > However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in > clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not > communicate. > > On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 > Justin Karneges wrote: > >> I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be >> compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex >> codec is "speex" and not "SPEEX". Psi therefore uses the wrong codec >> name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with >> other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the >> wrong codec name to Psi. > http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html > > b. It is also possible to use different software that use different > protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle > to land-line; SIP <-> land-line <-> Skype). > There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. > There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them > are available for the public since Microsoft took over > . > > c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP > clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, > which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking > BitTorrent traffic of it > . > >> 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft >> Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most >> people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or >> Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to >> choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to >> each other. > I think just like you :-) > > Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. > Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for > example, do work under all three platforms. > >> Greg Flint >> >> PO Box 642 >> Parap >> NT 0804 >> Australia >> >> Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >> Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >> Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >> sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >> sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us >> > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 17 05:31:23 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:23 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: > > Hello, > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) > el_gallo_azul wrote: > >> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used >> Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. >> >> 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga >> 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. > > Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? > As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues > which make Ekiga to freeze. > Hello. I do not know whether this message will get through. I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been unacknowledged. I have both Ekiga and Skype installed. The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2. I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet "connected up" with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, compared with Skype. The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I believe (but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I installed Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of Skype in the Debian package repository, is from before when Microsoft took over Skype. I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but installing Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to now be too complicated. And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype is available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not yet been released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype web site, to find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6. Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 17 05:42:10 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:42:10 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:23 > From: Bret Busby > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) >> el_gallo_azul wrote: >> >>> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used >>> Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. >>> >>> 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga >>> 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. >> >> Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? >> As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues >> which make Ekiga to freeze. >> > > Hello. > > I do not know whether this message will get through. > > I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to > people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been unacknowledged. > > I have both Ekiga and Skype installed. > > The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of > Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2. > > I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so > far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet "connected up" with anyone, > family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that > the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, > compared with Skype. > > The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I believe > (but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I installed > Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of Skype in the Debian > package repository, is from before when Microsoft took over Skype. > > I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but installing > Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to now be too > complicated. > > And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype is > available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not yet been > released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype web site, to > find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6. > > Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package > repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as > being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an > Intel I3 CPU. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > Yes! It got through... :) I have just tried, using my version of Ekiga, to call the poster of the original message in the thread, to find what would happen. I got "User is not available". Oh, well... I tried. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 17 05:48:57 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:48:57 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:08:57 > From: Polaris > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today > > I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and > "loop back video" problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If the > 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 > installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? > > Thanks, > > sip:tron7 at ekiga.net > > > On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) >> el_gallo_azul wrote: >> >>> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used >>> Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. >>> >>> 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga >>> 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. >> Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? >> As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues >> which make Ekiga to freeze. >> >>> 2. We were able to converse. >>> >>> 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to >>> see video of himself. >> Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? >> >>> 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more >>> than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software >>> uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe >>> Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each >>> other at all? >> a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. >> However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in >> clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not >> communicate. >> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 >> Justin Karneges wrote: >> >>> I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be >>> compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex >>> codec is "speex" and not "SPEEX". Psi therefore uses the wrong codec >>> name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with >>> other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the >>> wrong codec name to Psi. >> http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html >> >> b. It is also possible to use different software that use different >> protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle >> to land-line; SIP <-> land-line <-> Skype). >> There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. >> There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them >> are available for the public since Microsoft took over >> . >> >> c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP >> clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, >> which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking >> BitTorrent traffic of it >> . >> >>> 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft >>> Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most >>> people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or >>> Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to >>> choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to >>> each other. >> I think just like you :-) >> >> Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. >> Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for >> example, do work under all three platforms. >> >>> Greg Flint >>> >>> PO Box 642 >>> Parap >>> NT 0804 >>> Australia >>> >>> Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >>> Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >>> Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >>> sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >>> sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us >>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net > $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No > bandwidth quotas! > Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > I just tried calling the above poster, with my version of Ekiga. I again got "User is not available". I think that my SIP address is bret.busby at ekiga.net . -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 17 08:11:52 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:11:52 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Does Ekiga run on Android Message-ID: Hello. The subject line pretty much says it all; does a version of Ekiga exist, that runs on Android? This could allow Ekiga to be run on both tablet PC's and Android powered smartphones, especially, the latter. >From the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Android , I assume that Ekiga dopes not run on Android, but I am not sure. >From what I understand, Android is based on Linux, so I do not know whether Ekiga could run natively on Android. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 17 08:20:36 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:20:36 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:08:57 >> From: Polaris >> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today >> >> I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up and >> "loop back video" problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga. If >> the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 >> installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly? >> >> Thanks, >> >> sip:tron7 at ekiga.net >> >> >> On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) >>> el_gallo_azul wrote: >>> >>>> I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used >>>> Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. >>>> >>>> 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga >>>> 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. >>> Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask? >>> As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues >>> which make Ekiga to freeze. >>> >>>> 2. We were able to converse. >>>> >>>> 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to >>>> see video of himself. >>> Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated? >>> >>>> 4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more >>>> than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software >>>> uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe >>>> Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each >>>> other at all? >>> a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol. >>> However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in >>> clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not >>> communicate. >>> >>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800 >>> Justin Karneges wrote: >>> >>>> I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be >>>> compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex >>>> codec is "speex" and not "SPEEX". Psi therefore uses the wrong codec >>>> name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with >>>> other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the >>>> wrong codec name to Psi. >>> http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html >>> >>> b. It is also possible to use different software that use different >>> protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle >>> to land-line; SIP <-> land-line <-> Skype). >>> There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP. >>> There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them >>> are available for the public since Microsoft took over >>> . >>> >>> c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP >>> clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code, >>> which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking >>> BitTorrent traffic of it >>> . >>> >>>> 5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft >>>> Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most >>>> people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or >>>> Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to >>>> choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to >>>> each other. >>> I think just like you :-) >>> >>> Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed. >>> Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for >>> example, do work under all three platforms. >>> >>>> Greg Flint >>>> >>>> PO Box 642 >>>> Parap >>>> NT 0804 >>>> Australia >>>> >>>> Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >>>> Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >>>> Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >>>> sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >>>> sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us >>>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net >> $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No >> bandwidth quotas! >> Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > > > I just tried calling the above poster, with my version of Ekiga. > > I again got "User is not available". > > I think that my SIP address is bret.busby at ekiga.net . > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > Hello. I advise that I did manage to get through to Greg ("El Gallo"), and made a voice call to him, and sustained the call, without any problems (once I had realised that the problem that I encountered initially, was that I had initially tried with the SIP address being incomplete). In the initial attempt, I had copied and pasted the SIP address from the email mesage, but, in doing that (with my email application being alpine, the replacement for PINE), the SIP address had been truncated at the second underscore, so that the SIP address that had been attempted, was azul at ekiga.net, which did not work. When I retried with the full SIP address, it worked well, for a voicecall. It was a voicecall, as his terminal was a cellphone which was connected via WiFi to his LAN. The sound was clear. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From mtbc at ixod.org Sun Feb 17 09:29:19 2013 From: mtbc at ixod.org (Mark Carroll) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:29:19 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Snapshots repository? (Debian amd64) Message-ID: <87sj4vgufk.fsf@ixod.org> I want to keep on top of 4.0.0 to see how the wrinkles are getting ironed out. (My current issue with the ekiga in Debian experimental is that often when I receive a call, I hear the ringing, and I see a quick flash of something, but I have nothing I can push to actually accept the call!) The snapshot builds page on http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code leads me to http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Snapshots but the only Packages file that apt downloads doesn't have an ekiga-snapshot package: # grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/snapshots.ekiga.net_snapshots_debian_._Packages Package: libpt-snapshot-doc Package: libopal-snapshot-doc Package: libopal-snapshot-doc Package: libpt-snapshot-doc Where did the binaries go, like ekiga-snapshot? Is there now a different way to get a snapshot Debian package of ekiga? Thanks, Mark From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 17 12:46:24 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:46:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Does Ekiga run on Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5120D120.10408@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 09:11, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > The subject line pretty much says it all; does a version of Ekiga exist, > that runs on Android? > > This could allow Ekiga to be run on both tablet PC's and Android powered > smartphones, especially, the latter. > >> From the web page at > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Android , I > assume that Ekiga dopes not run on Android, but I am not sure. You are right, ekiga does not run on Android. If someone can help, we are glad to add support for it. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 17 12:50:59 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:50:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Snapshots repository? (Debian amd64) In-Reply-To: <87sj4vgufk.fsf@ixod.org> References: <87sj4vgufk.fsf@ixod.org> Message-ID: <5120D233.8060705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 10:29, Mark Carroll wrote: > I want to keep on top of 4.0.0 to see how the wrinkles are getting Glad to hear that! The current snapshot is from 11 02. > ironed out. (My current issue with the ekiga in Debian experimental is > that often when I receive a call, I hear the ringing, and I see a quick > flash of something, but I have nothing I can push to actually accept the > call!) This seems like a yet another libnotify-related problem. Please try the snapshots once they work or the following 4.0.1 and it this problem is still there inform us. What windows manager do you use? > The snapshot builds page on > http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code leads me to > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Snapshots but the only Packages file > that apt downloads doesn't have an ekiga-snapshot package: > > # grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/snapshots.ekiga.net_snapshots_debian_._Packages > Package: libpt-snapshot-doc > Package: libopal-snapshot-doc > Package: libopal-snapshot-doc > Package: libpt-snapshot-doc Oups, you are right, Package file is not generated as it should. I will look into this issue and keep you informed. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 17 14:38:25 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:38:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ILBC codec in LibOpal Ubuntu and Debian In-Reply-To: <510CC30D.8050301@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <8638xf4rzn.fsf@minignu.minidns.net> <510CC30D.8050301@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5120EB61.6050401@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 02/02/13 08:41, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 01/02/13 22:57, Dima wrote: >> Hi, >> >> iLBC seems to be free and open source starting from 2011, according to >> the Wikipedia >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilbc > > I did not know that. > >> Why LibOpal package in Debian and Ubuntu still has that >> >> remove_ilbc >> >> clause >> >> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=808565). >> >> Why not time came to enable ILBC in LibOpal and Ekiga... > > I will take a look and enable it then. I have just enabled it. It will appear in the next 4.x.y release for debian and hopefully for ubuntu too. -- Eugen From mtbc at ixod.org Sun Feb 17 15:25:36 2013 From: mtbc at ixod.org (Mark Carroll) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:25:36 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Snapshots repository? (Debian amd64) In-Reply-To: <5120D233.8060705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> (Eugen Dedu's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:50:59 +0100") References: <87sj4vgufk.fsf@ixod.org> <5120D233.8060705@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <87zjz3vu6n.fsf@ixod.org> Eugen Dedu writes: > On 17/02/13 10:29, Mark Carroll wrote: >> I want to keep on top of 4.0.0 to see how the wrinkles are getting > > Glad to hear that! The current snapshot is from 11 02. Oh! I was hoping for daily builds from the source code repository. >> (My current issue with the ekiga in Debian experimental is that often >> when I receive a call, I hear the ringing, and I see a quick flash of >> something, but I have nothing I can push to actually accept the call!) > > This seems like a yet another libnotify-related problem. Please try the > snapshots once they work or the following 4.0.1 and it this problem is > still there inform us. Okay. > What windows manager do you use? ctwm (a twm derivative). > Oups, you are right, Package file is not generated as it should. I will > look into this issue and keep you informed. Thank you very much. Mark From sevmek at free.fr Sun Feb 17 18:28:57 2013 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:28:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1361125737.5293.5.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le dimanche 17 f?vrier 2013 ? 13:31 +0800, Bret Busby a ?crit : > I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to > make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet "connected up" > with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via > Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, > and > is of low resolution, compared with Skype. AFAIK the video codec used in the test call is the worst available i.e. H.261. This explains the low resolution and the big pixels. Practically the test call shows if video works, it does not show how good it can be. In a call with another client supporting better codec (especially H.264) the video is much better. You can force ekiga to negotiate only with the best codec (e.g H.264, or H.263) by deselecting other codecs in preferences, or put the codec you wish in the top of the list. Unfortunately the test call will only accept H.261. From sevmek at free.fr Sun Feb 17 18:43:38 2013 From: sevmek at free.fr (Yannick) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:43:38 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please In-Reply-To: <004f01ce0b76$52161b30$f6425190$@ballegeer.net> References: <007901ce0953$eaf51970$c0df4c50$@ballegeer.net> <511AA369.1020102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <005b01ce09f1$908a63c0$b19f2b40$@ballegeer.net> <201302140725.07968.glen@exemail.com.au> <004f01ce0b76$52161b30$f6425190$@ballegeer.net> Message-ID: <1361126618.5293.10.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Le vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 ? 04:16 -0800, Darren Ballegeer a ?crit : > Sorry for my blindness. I went thru the FAQ, but still need to know if I can use Ekiga to make phone calls from my PC. To non-tech folk like me, the scope of the ekiga service is not clear. Thanks > > Yes, Ekiga is able to place PC-to-phone calls. There is a provider built-in (diamoncard) or you can use your own. There is a small list of tested providers in our wiki here (quite outdated): http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/List_of_PC_to_phone_providers PC-to-phone calls is an essential part of the SIP protocol used by Ekiga (and this is true for H.323 as well, still the H.323 protocol is nowadays replaced by the SIP protocol) There is tons of company providing the PC-to-phone service using the SIP protocol at low rates. > -----Original Message----- > From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org] On Behalf Of Glen Cunningham > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:25 PM > To: ekiga-list at gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please > > G'day Darren, > > On Thursday 14 February 2013 00:53:54 Darren Ballegeer wrote: > > Link doesn?t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise... > > On the main page > Underneath the heading "Documentation" there are 5 links, the first one is marked "Frequently Asked Questions". Try that. > > G. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From eric_in_spain at ymail.com Mon Feb 18 08:33:43 2013 From: eric_in_spain at ymail.com (Eric Jackson) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:33:43 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi Message-ID: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at ekiga.net, but am unable to connect. When I try to go online, or even attempt an echo test I receive the following message: "Connection failed for the following account: User name eric_in_spain, Server name ekiga.net" What am I doing incorrectly, or failing to do in the first place? Eric Jackson From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 08:53:06 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:53:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi In-Reply-To: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> Message-ID: <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be used to connect to another ekiga.net account. You should certainly be able to carry out an echo test though. Have you seen any evidence that the account is registering properly? ? Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us ________________________________ De: Eric Jackson Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org Enviado: Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 18:03 Asunto: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at ekiga.net, but am unable to connect.? When I try to go online, or even attempt an echo test I receive the following message: "Connection failed for the following account: User name eric_in_spain, Server name ekiga.net" What am I doing incorrectly, or failing to do in the first place? Eric Jackson _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Mon Feb 18 09:52:59 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:52:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <87bobi0z5l.fsf@ixod.org> Message-ID: <20130218095301.63330@gmx.com> On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:06:14 +0000 Mark Carroll wrote: > el_gallo_azul writes: > > > Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only > > be used to connect to another ekiga.net account. > > Huh, that's interesting: when I am registered with iptel.org instead, > people with a free ekiga.net account can still call me. Of course, SIP and also Jabber/XMPP are protocols that can be federated, by default and by design, and need not an exclusive authority to operate. Stop using ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo and Skype. http://wwwcip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~bo92cafu/im.html http://wwwcip.cs.fau.de/~bo92cafu/im.html We have SIP and Jabber/XMPP in the spirit of what the WWW was originally designed for. Also, in this sense, you choose the software you like, not someone else. Proprietary protocols make the WWW weaker and PC is lesser fun. -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From eric_in_spain at ymail.com Mon Feb 18 10:06:57 2013 From: eric_in_spain at ymail.com (Eric Jackson) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:06:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi In-Reply-To: <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5121FD41.3070504@ymail.com> Hi Greg Thanks for getting back so promptly. I have received an email welcoming me to ekiga.net that says the registration process is now done. It confirms my SIP address. Regards Eric Jackson ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 18/02/2013 09:53, el_gallo_azul wrote: > Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be > used to connect to another ekiga.net account. > > You should certainly be able to carry out an echo test though. > > Have you seen any evidence that the account is registering properly? > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 > Parap > NT 0804 > Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* Eric Jackson > *Para:* ekiga-list at gnome.org > *Enviado:* Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 18:03 > *Asunto:* [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi > > I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at ekiga.net, but > am unable to connect. When I try to go online, or even attempt an > echo test I receive the following message: > > "Connection failed for the following account: User name eric_in_spain, > Server name ekiga.net" > > What am I doing incorrectly, or failing to do in the first place? > > Eric Jackson > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 23:57:36 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:57:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Some general SIP questions In-Reply-To: <5121FD41.3070504@ymail.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5121FD41.3070504@ymail.com> Message-ID: <1361231856.43334.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> After thinking about it, I realised yesterday that what I said might have given the impression that I don't know what I'm talking about, which is kind of true. I have three SIP accounts: 1. An ekiga.net account I set this up a long time ago because I wanted to find an alternative to Skype, and this looked like the best way to get my feet wet. 2. A diamondcard account I got this originally so that I could call SIP-->phone to my Auntie in another country 3. A SIP account with my ISP This one replaced my POTS landline a year or so ago. It is a SIP account which enables my landline number to function the same as my old POTS number. I have the following questions: 1. Can any SIP account establish a connection with any other SIP account? 2. What is the nature of the obstacles in the way of this? For example, some registrars not being able to establish connections with others, commercial 'gateways', etc. 3. Is more than one SIP account in my e-mail signature redundant (assuming all three registrars are working)? ? Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us ________________________________ De: Eric Jackson Para: el_gallo_azul ; Ekiga mailing list Enviado: Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 19:36 Asunto: Re: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi Hi Greg Thanks for getting back so promptly.? I have received an email welcoming me to ekiga.net that says the registration process is now done.? It confirms my SIP address. Regards Eric Jackson ________________________________ On 18/02/2013 09:53, el_gallo_azul wrote: Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be used to connect to another ekiga.net account. > > >You should certainly be able to carry out an echo test though. > > >Have you seen any evidence that the account is registering properly? > >? >Greg Flint > >PO Box 642 >Parap >NT 0804 >Australia > >Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > > > > >________________________________ > De: Eric Jackson >Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org >Enviado: Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 18:03 >Asunto: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi > >I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at ekiga.net, but am unable to connect.? When I try to go online, or even attempt an echo test I receive the following message: > >"Connection failed for the following account: User name eric_in_spain, Server name ekiga.net" > >What am I doing incorrectly, or failing to do in the first place? > >Eric Jackson >_______________________________________________ >ekiga-list mailing list >ekiga-list at gnome.org >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > >_______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From genghiskhan at gmx.ca Tue Feb 19 08:26:36 2013 From: genghiskhan at gmx.ca (Genghis Khan) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:36 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Some general SIP questions References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5121FD41.3070504@ymail.com> <1361231856.43334.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130219082636.63340@gmx.com> I answered questions 1 and 3. Question 2 remain empty. On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:57:36 -0800 (PST) el_gallo_azul wrote: > After thinking about it, I realised yesterday that what I said might > have given the impression that I don't know what I'm talking about, > which is kind of true. > > I have three SIP accounts: > > 1. An ekiga.net account > I set this up a long time ago because I wanted to find an alternative > to Skype, and this looked like the best way to get my feet wet. > > 2. A diamondcard account > I got this originally so that I could call SIP-->phone to my Auntie > in another country > > 3. A SIP account with my ISP > This one replaced my POTS landline a year or so ago. It is a SIP > account which enables my landline number to function the same as my > old POTS number. > > I have the following questions: > > 1. Can any SIP account establish a connection with any other SIP > account? It depends, if a provider is blocking SIP traffic only to its domain then communications of this provider will be only within its domain. e.g. Facebook and WhatsApp are both using Jabber/XMPP (which is usually opened to other domains like SIP) for their communications, but both restrict their communications merely for their domain names. > 2. What is the nature of the obstacles in the way of this? For > example, some registrars not being able to establish connections with > others, commercial 'gateways', etc. > > 3. Is more than one SIP account in my e-mail signature redundant > (assuming all three registrars are working)? IMHO, Maybe you need to add, near Diamondcard, a number to call you back from land-line, if there is. > > ? > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 > Parap > NT 0804 > Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > > > > ________________________________ > De: Eric Jackson > Para: el_gallo_azul ; Ekiga mailing list > Enviado: Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 19:36 > Asunto: Re: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi > > > Hi Greg > > Thanks for getting back so promptly.? I have received an email > welcoming me to ekiga.net that says the registration process is > now done.? It confirms my SIP address. > > Regards > > Eric Jackson > ________________________________ > > On 18/02/2013 09:53, el_gallo_azul wrote: > > Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be > used to connect to another ekiga.net account. > > > > > >You should certainly be able to carry out an echo test though. > > > > > >Have you seen any evidence that the account is registering properly? > > > >? > >Greg Flint > > > >PO Box 642 > >Parap > >NT 0804 > >Australia > > > >Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > >Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > >Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > >sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > >sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > De: Eric Jackson > >Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org > >Enviado: Lunes 18 de febrero de 2013 18:03 > >Asunto: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi > > > >I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at > ekiga.net, but am unable to connect.? When I try to go > online, or even attempt an echo test I receive the > following message: > > > >"Connection failed for the following account: User name > eric_in_spain, Server name ekiga.net" > > > >What am I doing incorrectly, or failing to do in the first > place? > > > >Eric Jackson > > -- Proper English www.reddit.com/r/proper 4 teh lulz... http://email.is-not-s.ms From dave at dawoodfall.net Tue Feb 19 09:23:44 2013 From: dave at dawoodfall.net (David Woodfall) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:23:44 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Changing Systray Icon Message-ID: <20130219092344.GD30041@Blackswan> Hi, I'd like to change the systray icon if possible. I can't seem to locate it in the file system, nor in the source. Could you tell me which icon it is please? Thanks -- When all you have is a Swiss Army Knife, every problem looks like email. -- Peter da Silva From bret at busby.net Tue Feb 19 16:28:42 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:28:42 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about configuration of event timestamp display Message-ID: Hello. I am running Ekiga 3.2.7-2 on Debian Linux 6.0.x amd64 . One thing that has occurred to me; in the Call history, as displayed, the events are ordered in timestamp order, with the timestamp format being dd/mm/yy hh:mm:ss () As the first characters are dd, the sorting of the events, is in reverse (highest value at top) order of the day of the month. Thus, for example, 19/04/12 event shows as having been more recent than 17/02/13 event, being at the top of the list of the events. How can I set the event timestamp format to (I think it is) the ISO format of yy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss , which would make the sorting order of the chronology of the events, more appropriate? I do not know whether this has changed in the later/latest version(s). Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From valentina.manea.m at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 22:41:32 2013 From: valentina.manea.m at gmail.com (Valentina Manea) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:41:32 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Unable to register - 606 Not Acceptable error Message-ID: Hello, I am interested in developing code for Ekiga but my problem concerns user side so I think this is the appropriate list to use. I have compiled Ekiga from sources (master/trunk) on Linux Mint 13 and stumbled upon the following issue: I cannot register and receive the following error: Could not register (Remote party host is offline). I must add that I am using NAT and used port forwarding. After digging through debugging output and Wireshark captures, I noticed that the REGISTER requests are rejected with a 606 Not Acceptable error. My current SIP knowledge is quite limited but, as I read, this happens when the client used a private address in the Contact header. As I can see, the Contact header contains both the private and the public address. Debugging output: http://pastebin.ca/2315778 SIP packets (after running the script from the wiki): http://pastebin.ca/2315771 I can also provide a Wireshark capture if needed. I believe there is an issue with the client but can't figure out what (perhaps a wrong setting?). I have also tested with version 4.0.0 (from my distro's repositories) and the same thing happens. Any help is appreciated. Regards, Valentina From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 00:28:29 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 01:28:29 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Unable to register - 606 Not Acceptable error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <512418AD.3050808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 19/02/13 23:41, Valentina Manea wrote: > Hello, > > I am interested in developing code for Ekiga but my problem concerns > user side so I think this is the appropriate list to use. > I have compiled Ekiga from sources (master/trunk) on Linux Mint 13 and > stumbled upon the following issue: > > I cannot register and receive the following error: Could not register > (Remote party host is offline). > I must add that I am using NAT and used port forwarding. > After digging through debugging output and Wireshark captures, I > noticed that the REGISTER requests are rejected with a 606 Not > Acceptable error. My current SIP knowledge is quite limited but, as I > read, this happens when the client used a private address in the > Contact header. As I can see, the Contact header contains both the > private and the public address. > > Debugging output: http://pastebin.ca/2315778 > SIP packets (after running the script from the wiki): http://pastebin.ca/2315771 > I can also provide a Wireshark capture if needed. It is a bit weird. I have just made a minor commit fixing a debugging text. Could you please use latest master and repost a debugging output? Also, an output when the account name (not the user!) contains the string %limit, cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Troubleshooting#Cannot_register_to_sip.1und1.de_or_some_other_registrar_with_ekiga_.3C.3D_3.2.x -- Eugen From bret at busby.net Wed Feb 20 03:15:47 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:15:47 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS Message-ID: Hello. I have contacted one of my brothers, regarding Skype, and he has a Skype account, but seldom uses it, and instead uses an application named FaceTime, which is only Apple to Apple (I assume, MacOS), and he said that FaceTime is better quality than Skype. On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page , Ekiga does not show as being able to be installed and run on MacOS. On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , Ekiga does not show as being compatible with FaceTime for the MacOS. So, I am wondering whether any prospect exists, of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. I do not know how many (either absolute number, or, relative (as proportion of total) WWW (as in the graphical thing that runs on top of the Internet) users, use Mac OS, or, how the number of Mac OS users, compares to the number of Linux users, but, as Ekiga apparently runs on Linux and other UNIX and Unix-like OS's, and, on MS Windows, I am wondering about the prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. Thank you in anticipation, for your response. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 04:02:53 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:02:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> 1. Operating system usage share: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems 2. I am trying to find out myself whether any SIP account can connect to any other SIP account, regardless of the software. I don't know yet, but would appreciate if you let me know the outcome of your post. 3. Available SIP applications (I believe we discussed this on Saturday): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software (this shows the operating systems) ? Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net ________________________________ De: Bret Busby Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org Enviado: Mi?rcoles 20 de febrero de 2013 12:45 Asunto: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS Hello. I have contacted one of my brothers, regarding Skype, and he has a Skype account, but seldom uses it, and instead uses an application named FaceTime, which is only Apple to Apple (I assume, MacOS), and he said that FaceTime is better quality than Skype. On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page , Ekiga does not show as being able to be installed and run on MacOS. On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , Ekiga does not show as being compatible with FaceTime for the MacOS. So, I am wondering whether any prospect exists, of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. I do not know how many (either absolute number, or, relative (as proportion of total) WWW (as in the graphical thing that runs on top of the Internet) users, use Mac OS, or, how the number of Mac OS users, compares to the number of Linux users, but, as Ekiga apparently runs on Linux and other UNIX and Unix-like OS's, and, on MS Windows, I am wondering about the prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. Thank you in anticipation, for your response. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, ? Chapter 28 of Book 1 of ? "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: ? 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I am trying to find out myself whether any SIP account can connect to any other SIP account, regardless of the software. I don't know yet, but would appreciate if you let me know the outcome of your post. Yes, any SIP application should be able to talk to any other SIP application. >3. Available SIP applications (I believe we discussed this on Saturday): > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software (this shows the operating systems) > > >? >Greg Flint > >PO Box 642 >Parap >NT 0804 >Australia > >Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us >sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net > > > >________________________________ > De: Bret Busby >Para: ekiga-list at gnome.org >Enviado: Mi?rcoles 20 de febrero de 2013 12:45 >Asunto: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS > >Hello. > >I have contacted one of my brothers, regarding Skype, and he has a Skype account, but seldom uses it, and instead uses an application named FaceTime, which is only Apple to Apple (I assume, MacOS), and he said that FaceTime is better quality than Skype. > >On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page , Ekiga does not show as being able to be installed and run on MacOS. > >On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , Ekiga does not show as being compatible with FaceTime for the MacOS. > >So, I am wondering whether any prospect exists, of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. > >I do not know how many (either absolute number, or, relative (as proportion of total) WWW (as in the graphical thing that runs on top of the Internet) users, use Mac OS, or, how the number of Mac OS users, compares to the number of Linux users, but, as Ekiga apparently runs on Linux and other UNIX and Unix-like OS's, and, on MS Windows, I am wondering about the prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. > >Thank you in anticipation, for your response. From geotalk at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 08:31:08 2013 From: geotalk at yahoo.com (Jim Habegger) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:31:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] How to stop email delivery? In-Reply-To: <20130220061241.GA12513@Blackswan> References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130220061241.GA12513@Blackswan> Message-ID: <1361349068.68802.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I want to stop posts from being delivered to my email address. I've disabled mail delivery several times in the options. I've even tried logging out after I changed the options, and logging back in to be sure that the option was still disabled. The posts keep on being delivered anyway, and later when I go back to look at the options, the mail delivery is enabled again. Is there any way to disable the mail delivery, and keep it that way, until I want to enable it again? 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I don't know yet, but would appreciate if you let me know the outcome of your post. > > 3. Available SIP applications (I believe we discussed this on Saturday): > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software (this shows the operating systems) > > > ? > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 > Parap > NT 0804 > Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net > > Hello. The second link above; the "Comparison of VOIP Software" is the one to which I referred in the contact with you, when I could not remember what exactly was the wikipedia web page. >From that web page, I found that Linphone apparently runs on each of Linux, MS Windows, and Mac OSX. I have mentioned that to my brother, so I will find what he does about it and possibly trying it on his Apple computer (assuming that his computer is running Mac OSX - I do not know which OS he is running). I have installed Linphone to try it. Using Linphone, I have just attempted a phone call to you (Greg). Linphone shows the call as having been successful, with a duration of about 45 seconds, but, after the ringing stopped, the line went quiet, and I did not hear any sound coming from the other end. So, I assume that Linphone can not communicate with Ekiga. That is my assumption, but I do not know enough for that assumption to be valid. According to the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , communication between Ekiga and Linphone (v1.5), should work, for video and audio. The version of Linphone that I installed, is 3.3.2-1, from the packages repository for Debian Linux 6.0.x . Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event history, for that attempt, it would be good. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From bret at busby.net Wed Feb 20 17:17:10 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:17:10 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linphone and Ekiaga communication attempts - was Re: Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, el_gallo_azul wrote: >> >> 2. I am trying to find out myself whether any SIP account can connect to >> any other SIP account, regardless of the software. I don't know yet, but >> would appreciate if you let me know the outcome of your post. >> > > Hello. > > > I have installed Linphone to try it. > > Using Linphone, I have just attempted a phone call to you (Greg). Linphone > shows the call as having been successful, with a duration of about 45 > seconds, but, after the ringing stopped, the line went quiet, and I did not > hear any sound coming from the other end. > > So, I assume that Linphone can not communicate with Ekiga. > > That is my assumption, but I do not know enough for that assumption to be > valid. > > According to the web page at > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , communication > between Ekiga and Linphone (v1.5), should work, for video and audio. > > The version of Linphone that I installed, is 3.3.2-1, from the packages > repository for Debian Linux 6.0.x . > > Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event history, > for that attempt, it would be good. > I further advise that I have just used Linphone to try to connect with the Ekiga Echo Test Number; 500 at ekiga.net. The video window went green, with a little video window within that window, of me at my end (which I assume is what happens in the course of a successful vidoe call; that the caller sees a small window of the video of the caller, within the larger window of the video of the other party), but, in the course of the call, I heard no sound from the other end. The call history event record shows as " Outgoing call at Thu Feb 21 01:01:11 2013 From: "Bret Busby of Armadale, Western Australia" > To: Status: completed Duration: 2 mn 1 sec " Unfortunately, in Linphone, the SIP address includes my IP address within my LAN, which I do not like, rather than, as Ekiga shows, using the SIP address of . So, again, it appears that Linphone and Ekiga, do not communicate with each other, which appears to indicate that SIP communications can only ocur within each separate SIP provider, and, not between different SIP providers. And, again, that is no more than my personal deduction, based on my experience, and, not on any knowledge other than my experience as stated. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 20:28:57 2013 From: el_gallo_azul at yahoo.com (el_gallo_azul) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1361392137.20943.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> 1. I received notification of your call (in my case, both my landline phone and my smart mobile phone ring), and answered using the landline. 2. I could not hear anything on the other end. 3. I checked the phone handset and it said 'Talking' which means that as far as the phone is concerned, the call is still connected. 4. I worked out later that I had two instances of my ekiga.net account registered at the time you called. One was in the VoIP settings of my modem, and the other was the CSipSimple app on my smartphone. 5. I Eventually hung up the landline phone, and went and had a look at the smartphone. The app CSipSimple reported a missed call, and had a record of your call because it said 'Bret Busby'. 6. I was having a look at the record of the call, to try and work out what had happened. During this process, I fouled things up. It looks like I selected all call history, and then deleted them. So unfortunately, I am not able to comment on the details of the record of your call reported from CSipSimple. > Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event history, for that attempt, it would be good. No can do. 7. I would be interested to see if I need to change my SIP configuration or not, which means receiving a few calls in a row to test my landline phone and my smartphone. ? Greg Flint PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net ________________________________ De: Bret Busby Para: Ekiga mailing list Enviado: Mi?rcoles 20 de febrero de 2013 18:52 Asunto: Re: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, el_gallo_azul wrote: > > 1. Operating system usage share: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems > > 2. I am trying to find out myself whether any SIP account can connect to any other SIP account, regardless of the software. I don't know yet, but would appreciate if you let me know the outcome of your post. > > 3. Available SIP applications (I believe we discussed this on Saturday): > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software (this shows the operating systems) > > > ? > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net > > Hello. The second link above; the "Comparison of VOIP Software" is the one to which I referred in the contact with you, when I could not remember what exactly was the wikipedia web page. From that web page, I found that Linphone apparently runs on each of Linux, MS Windows, and Mac OSX. I have mentioned that to my brother, so I will find what he does about it and possibly trying it on his Apple computer (assuming that his computer is running Mac OSX - I do not know which OS he is running). I have installed Linphone to try it. Using Linphone, I have just attempted a phone call to you (Greg). Linphone shows the call as having been successful, with a duration of about 45 seconds, but, after the ringing stopped, the line went quiet, and I did not hear any sound coming from the other end. So, I assume that Linphone can not communicate with Ekiga. That is my assumption, but I do not know enough for that assumption to be valid. According to the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , communication between Ekiga and Linphone (v1.5), should work, for video and audio. The version of Linphone that I installed, is 3.3.2-1, from the packages repository for Debian Linux 6.0.x . Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event history, for that attempt, it would be good. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, ? Chapter 28 of Book 1 of ? "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: ? A Trilogy In Four Parts", ? written by Douglas Adams, ? published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list at gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valentina.manea.m at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 20:56:14 2013 From: valentina.manea.m at gmail.com (Valentina Manea) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:56:14 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Unable to register - 606 Not Acceptable error In-Reply-To: <512418AD.3050808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <512418AD.3050808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > > > It is a bit weird. I have just made a minor commit fixing a debugging text. > Could you please use latest master and repost a debugging output? Also, an > output when the account name (not the user!) contains the string %limit, cf. > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Troubleshooting#Cannot_register_to_sip.1und1.de_or_some_other_registrar_with_ekiga_.3C.3D_3.2.x > > -- > Eugen Hello, Eugen, and thank you for your reply. First of all, I have discovered that my router had a SIP ALG activated. Deactivating it produced some interesting results. On the latest version from the repo: Debugging output with %limit: http://pastebin.ca/2316086 Debugging output without %limit: http://pastebin.ca/2316085 What happens is that the client gets stuck in an endless loop. Account status remains "Processing ..." for ever and ever. I have also tested today in another NAT. In that case, it *sometimes* works with the %limit set. I could not determine exactly a pattern. In all other cases, it remains stuck in the same loop. Some other VoIP options in my router have drawn my attention: http://i.imgur.com/k0G9E2c.png Perhaps some of these timers are not properly set? These are the factory defaults. Thank you for helping. Regards, Valentina From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:13:38 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:13:38 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available Message-ID: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Hello everyone, This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals exclusively with bug fixing. The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, look for XML parsing below (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. * What is it ? ============== Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do free audio and video calls over the Internet. Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as GnomeMeeting. More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org * Where to get it ? =================== Ekiga is available at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ and the required librairies can be found at: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ Install executable for Windows OS: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ * What's changed ? ================== ** User-visible fixes - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN ending) - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are changing - Fix crash when receiving call a second time - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless OPTIONS - Several fixes for H.323: - fix H.323 parsing - add the username in authentication - fix unregistering the gatekeeper - fix registration - assign gk_name only if success - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not built-in - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item offered - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing registration - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is released - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP accounts - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting - Stop ongoing registration when remove account - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the host later - Increase number of characters shown in device names - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled - Hide the main window immediately on exit - Handle xa status as away - Fix debugging message when registering - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close together - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten is off - Send OPTION only on the right interface - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is received - Various other fixes ** Distributor-visible changes ** Windows port fixes - Fix freeze on quit - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in H.239 - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin - Add emoticons icons used for chat - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time ** Build fixes - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not - Some code cleanup ** Translation updates - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR - Update help translations: pt_BR On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, Eugen Dedu From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:33:05 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:33:05 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Changing Systray Icon In-Reply-To: <20130219092344.GD30041@Blackswan> References: <20130219092344.GD30041@Blackswan> Message-ID: <51255D31.3010807@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 19/02/13 10:23, David Woodfall wrote: > Hi, I'd like to change the systray icon if possible. I can't seem to > locate it in the file system, nor in the source. > > Could you tell me which icon it is please? It is user-away, user-busy, user-available or user-offline, depending on your status, from gnome-icon-theme. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:35:45 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:35:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about configuration of event timestamp display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51255DD1.2060307@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 19/02/13 17:28, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I am running Ekiga 3.2.7-2 on Debian Linux 6.0.x amd64 . > > One thing that has occurred to me; in the Call history, as displayed, > the events are ordered in timestamp order, with the timestamp format being > dd/mm/yy hh:mm:ss () > > As the first characters are dd, the sorting of the events, is in reverse > (highest value at top) order of the day of the month. > > Thus, for example, 19/04/12 event shows as having been more recent than > 17/02/13 event, being at the top of the list of the events. > > How can I set the event timestamp format to (I think it is) the ISO > format of yy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss , which would make the sorting order of the > chronology of the events, more appropriate? > > I do not know whether this has changed in the later/latest version(s). I confirm that on 4.0.0 this bug does not appear. It is available in experimental if you wish. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:42:01 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:42:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi In-Reply-To: <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51255F49.6040607@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 18/02/13 09:53, el_gallo_azul wrote: > Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be used to connect to another ekiga.net account. This is wrong. Hope I am not wrong when I say that an account is useful not to call, but to be called. So calling an ekiga.net account has nothing to do with having an ekiga.net account. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:43:23 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:43:23 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi In-Reply-To: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> Message-ID: <51255F9B.7060704@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 18/02/13 09:33, Eric Jackson wrote: > I have just installed Jitsi & set up a sip address at ekiga.net, but am > unable to connect. When I try to go online, or even attempt an echo test > I receive the following message: > > "Connection failed for the following account: User name eric_in_spain, > Server name ekiga.net" See https://jitsi.org/index.php/Documentation/FAQ#ekiga.net. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 20 23:53:20 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:53:20 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] genghiskhan@gmx.ca In-Reply-To: <20130219082636.63340@gmx.com> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5121FD41.3070504@ymail.com> <1361231856.43334.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130219082636.63340@gmx.com> Message-ID: <512561F0.8000600@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 19/02/13 09:26, Genghis Khan wrote: > I answered questions 1 and 3. Question 2 remain empty. > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:57:36 -0800 (PST) > el_gallo_azul wrote: > >> After thinking about it, I realised yesterday that what I said might >> have given the impression that I don't know what I'm talking about, >> which is kind of true. >> >> I have three SIP accounts: >> >> 1. An ekiga.net account >> I set this up a long time ago because I wanted to find an alternative >> to Skype, and this looked like the best way to get my feet wet. >> >> 2. A diamondcard account >> I got this originally so that I could call SIP-->phone to my Auntie >> in another country >> >> 3. A SIP account with my ISP >> This one replaced my POTS landline a year or so ago. It is a SIP >> account which enables my landline number to function the same as my >> old POTS number. >> >> I have the following questions: Very good questions! I will put them in the manual. Here are my answers, I am not 100% sure about them. >> 1. Can any SIP account establish a connection with any other SIP >> account? > > It depends, if a provider is blocking SIP traffic only to its domain > then communications of this provider will be only within its domain. Indeed. So in theory yes, all SIP accounts are "equivalent", but in practice you can have registrars blocking other SIP addresses. Also, some registrars allow only audio, e.g. diamondcard if I am not wrong. > e.g. Facebook and WhatsApp are both using Jabber/XMPP (which is usually > opened to other domains like SIP) for their communications, but both > restrict their communications merely for their domain names. > >> 2. What is the nature of the obstacles in the way of this? For >> example, some registrars not being able to establish connections with >> others, commercial 'gateways', etc. See previous answer. Other obstacles are particular configuration of some registrars, for ex. ekiga.net refuses private IP addresses in Via field during registration. >> 3. Is more than one SIP account in my e-mail signature redundant >> (assuming all three registrars are working)? > > IMHO, Maybe you need to add, near Diamondcard, a number to call you > back from land-line, if there is. Maybe some are redundant, but not all. For ex., I have freephonie (like diamondcard) and I can configure it to call my phone instead of ekiga. This is not possible with ekiga.net for ex. -- Eugen From polaris at vfemail.net Thu Feb 21 06:06:36 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:06:36 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> Can 4.0.1 be installed over 4.0.0 or is it best to uninstall 4.0.0 first? On 2/20/2013 3:13 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals > exclusively with bug fixing. > > The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, > especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this > making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, > and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, > look for XML parsing below > (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). > > We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of > ekiga. > > The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing > obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and > communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of > ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the > much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. > > > * What is it ? > ============== > > Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do > free audio and video calls over the Internet. > > Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and > SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as > GnomeMeeting. > > More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org > > > * Where to get it ? > =================== > > Ekiga is available at: > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ > and the required librairies can be found at: > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ > > Install executable for Windows OS: > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ > > * What's changed ? > ================== > > ** User-visible fixes > - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information > - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN > ending) > - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are changing > - Fix crash when receiving call a second time > - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code > - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless OPTIONS > - Several fixes for H.323: > - fix H.323 parsing > - add the username in authentication > - fix unregistering the gatekeeper > - fix registration > - assign gk_name only if success > - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not > built-in > - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item offered > - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing > registration > - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call > - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is > released > - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP accounts > - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting > - Stop ongoing registration when remove account > - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices > - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the > host later > - Increase number of characters shown in device names > - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook > - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook > - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too > - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled > - Hide the main window immediately on exit > - Handle xa status as away > - Fix debugging message when registering > - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history > - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close together > - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages > - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten > is off > - Send OPTION only on the right interface > - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages > - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 > - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP > - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is > received > - Various other fixes > ** Distributor-visible changes > ** Windows port fixes > - Fix freeze on quit > - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in H.239 > - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now > - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin > - Add emoticons icons used for chat > - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time > ** Build fixes > - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not > - Some code cleanup > ** Translation updates > - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR > - Update help translations: pt_BR > > On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, > Eugen Dedu > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 06:26:54 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:26:54 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> If you installed 4.0.0 manually, youmust uninstall it first. If you used package from your distribution, then installing 4.0.1 will remove 4.0.0 automatically. On 21/02/13 07:06, Polaris wrote: > Can 4.0.1 be installed over 4.0.0 or is it best to uninstall 4.0.0 first? > > > On 2/20/2013 3:13 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals >> exclusively with bug fixing. >> >> The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, >> especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this >> making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, >> and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, >> look for XML parsing below >> (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). >> >> >> We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of >> ekiga. >> >> The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing >> obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and >> communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of >> ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the >> much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. >> >> >> * What is it ? >> ============== >> >> Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do >> free audio and video calls over the Internet. >> >> Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and >> SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as >> GnomeMeeting. >> >> More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org >> >> >> * Where to get it ? >> =================== >> >> Ekiga is available at: >> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ >> and the required librairies can be found at: >> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ >> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ >> >> Install executable for Windows OS: >> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ >> >> * What's changed ? >> ================== >> >> ** User-visible fixes >> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information >> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN >> ending) >> - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are changing >> - Fix crash when receiving call a second time >> - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code >> - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless OPTIONS >> - Several fixes for H.323: >> - fix H.323 parsing >> - add the username in authentication >> - fix unregistering the gatekeeper >> - fix registration >> - assign gk_name only if success >> - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not built-in >> - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item offered >> - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing >> registration >> - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call >> - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is >> released >> - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP accounts >> - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting >> - Stop ongoing registration when remove account >> - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices >> - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the >> host later >> - Increase number of characters shown in device names >> - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook >> - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook >> - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too >> - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled >> - Hide the main window immediately on exit >> - Handle xa status as away >> - Fix debugging message when registering >> - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history >> - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close together >> - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages >> - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten >> is off >> - Send OPTION only on the right interface >> - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages >> - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 >> - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP >> - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is >> received >> - Various other fixes >> ** Distributor-visible changes >> ** Windows port fixes >> - Fix freeze on quit >> - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in H.239 >> - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now >> - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin >> - Add emoticons icons used for chat >> - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time >> ** Build fixes >> - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not >> - Some code cleanup >> ** Translation updates >> - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR >> - Update help translations: pt_BR >> >> On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, >> Eugen Dedu From bret at busby.net Thu Feb 21 08:29:51 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:29:51 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linphone and Ekiga communication attempts - was Re: Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: <1361392137.20943.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1361392137.20943.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, el_gallo_azul wrote: > > 1. I received notification of your call (in my case, both my landline phone and my smart mobile phone ring), and answered using the landline. > > 2. I could not hear anything on the other end. > > 3. I checked the phone handset and it said 'Talking' which means that as far as the phone is concerned, the call is still connected. > > 4. I worked out later that I had two instances of my ekiga.net account registered at the time you called. One was in the VoIP settings of my modem, and the other was the CSipSimple app on my smartphone. > > 5. I Eventually hung up the landline phone, and went and had a look at the smartphone. The app CSipSimple reported a missed call, and had a record of your call because it said 'Bret Busby'. > > 6. I was having a look at the record of the call, to try and work out what had happened. During this process, I fouled things up. It looks like I selected all call history, and then deleted them. So unfortunately, I am not able to comment on the details of the record of your call reported from CSipSimple. > >> Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event history, for that attempt, it would be good. > > No can do. > > 7. I would be interested to see if I need to change my SIP configuration or not, which means receiving a few calls in a row to test my landline phone and my smartphone. > > > ? > Greg Flint > > PO Box 642 > Parap > NT 0804 > Australia > > Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 > Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 > Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 > sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net > sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us > sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net > > Hello. A couple of things occurred to me about this, which I posted to the Linphone list (although, subsequent messages posted to that list, by other people, appear to indicate a lack of technical support for Linphone, by the developers). The first, is that, when I called you, I was using the default settings for each of my applicable devices. In Ekiga, I had to change the device setting for the microphone, and I changed it to what I had set up for Skype. In Linphone, I was unable to find provision of an Echo Test Call facility, thjat both Ekiga and Skype provide, so that, in Ekiga and Skype, a user can check the functionality of the devices and their settings, and, find whether what the user has set up, actually works. As there appears to be no provision of that, in Linphone, I have no way of testing and adjusting my device settings, to ensure that the devices are properly set up. The second thing, is that when run ning each softphone software application for the first time, Skype and Ekiga, from memory, prompt for the setting up of a SIP account, so as to enable the user to make calls across the Internet. Linphone does not do this, and, instead, sets up a default SIP address, using the format @, and, the IP address can, as is shown in my case, the IP address within the LAN, which I do not want to be published on the Internet. I subsequently found that that default SIP address supposedly allows for cals within, and, only within, a LAN, and that, to call across the Internet, a SIP accopunt that needs to be otherwise set up, is required. On the Linphone web site home page, on the left side, is a menu, with one option being free SIP account. In clicking that, I was led through the procedure for setting up a SIP account hosted by Linphone. It was not made clear that this is required, to make calls across the Internet. And, it is not intuiotive, especially when Linphone automatically creates a default SIP address, which, would appear to be all that is required for making calls across the Internet. The "Free SIP account" option in the menu on the Linphone web page, appears to be, without proceeding further with that option, by selecting the button, no more than information about the provision of that default SIP address. So, I believe that Linphone has critical deficiencies in its interface and functionality. Also, I note that, in two attempts to send Chat messages to Greg (Linphone to Ekiga), on each occasion, clicking on the button, caused Linphone to crash (and the messages to be lost and not sent). Another curious thing; when I contacted Greg from Linphone (me using Linphone to call Greg at his Ekiga SIP address), whilst the call showed within Linphone, to have been successful, neither he nor I could hear each other for the duration of each call attempt (after the ringing stopped, there was silence, and, after 30s of silence, I terminated each call). But, at the end of each of those unsuccesful calls, Greg could call me (Ekiga account to Linphone account), successfully, and we could successfully sustain a conversation, in each call thus made from Greg to me. So, calling Linphone to Ekiga, does not work, and, calling Ekiga to Linphone, does work, apparently. As I said to Greg, in one (or more) of the conversations, whilst the concept of Linphone (especially, that it supposedly covers the operating system platforms that it is supposed to cover, including MS Windows, Linux, and, Apple Mac OSX), appears to be good, the Linphone people have alot more work to do, to make it usable, and, at present, other than using it for testing communications with other softphone provision, such as testing for calling between Linphone and Ekiga, I would not bother with it again, until it is shown to be working properly. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Thu Feb 21 08:43:28 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:43:28 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connecting to ekiga.net through Jitsi In-Reply-To: <51255F49.6040607@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <5121E767.7060008@ymail.com> <1361177586.50387.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51255F49.6040607@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > > On 18/02/13 09:53, el_gallo_azul wrote: >> Be aware that an Ekiga SIP account (a free ekiga.net one) can only be used >> to connect to another ekiga.net account. > > This is wrong. > > Hope I am not wrong when I say that an account is useful not to call, but to > be called. So calling an ekiga.net account has nothing to do with having an > ekiga.net account. > > -- > Eugen > I disagree with you slightly, here, although this could easily be no more than an issue of language difference. With the " > Hope I am not wrong when I say that an account is useful not to call, but to > be called. " If you meant "an account is useful not just to call", or, "an account is useful not just for calling from", then the meaning changes. An example, is that, when I first called Greg, the call showed as lasting for 53 minutes. My telecommunications provider would, I believe, charge 80 cents (in AUD) per minute for a long distance call within Australia, so that call would have cost about 42AUD, if it had been made landline to landline. I think it most likely that it is simply a difference in laguage. To me, having an Ekiga account at both ends, is better than having one end Ekiga, and one end not Ekiga. Especially with my experience with Linphone, which I have described in another message that I posted today. And, one important thing that I believe is more likely to work in having both ends with Ekiga accounts and Ekiga software, is the prospect of video calls (which I have yet to achieve), which, to me, is the main attraction to softphone communications. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From eric_in_spain at ymail.com Thu Feb 21 10:06:37 2013 From: eric_in_spain at ymail.com (Eric Jackson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:06:37 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Linphone and Ekiga communication attempts - was Re: Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1361392137.20943.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5125F1AD.1040404@ymail.com> Hi Bret Thanks for your input. Someone else has referred me to the Jitsi FAQ which says that 2" ekiga.net SIP servers are configured in a way that prevent Jitsi to register with the service".It appears, therefor that I will have to find an alternative to Jitsi or use (as suggested by the Jitsi FAQ) iptel.org or ippi.com. Once again, many thanks for your interest and help. Regards Ericc Jackson Villar del Arzobispo Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 21/02/2013 09:29, Bret Busby wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, el_gallo_azul wrote: > >> >> 1. I received notification of your call (in my case, both my landline >> phone and my smart mobile phone ring), and answered using the landline. >> >> 2. I could not hear anything on the other end. >> >> 3. I checked the phone handset and it said 'Talking' which means that >> as far as the phone is concerned, the call is still connected. >> >> 4. I worked out later that I had two instances of my ekiga.net >> account registered at the time you called. One was in the VoIP >> settings of my modem, and the other was the CSipSimple app on my >> smartphone. >> >> 5. I Eventually hung up the landline phone, and went and had a look >> at the smartphone. The app CSipSimple reported a missed call, and had >> a record of your call because it said 'Bret Busby'. >> >> 6. I was having a look at the record of the call, to try and work out >> what had happened. During this process, I fouled things up. It looks >> like I selected all call history, and then deleted them. So >> unfortunately, I am not able to comment on the details of the record >> of your call reported from CSipSimple. >> >>> Anyway, if you could advise what, if anything, shows in your event >>> history, for that attempt, it would be good. >> >> No can do. >> >> 7. I would be interested to see if I need to change my SIP >> configuration or not, which means receiving a few calls in a row to >> test my landline phone and my smartphone. >> >> >> >> Greg Flint >> >> PO Box 642 Parap NT 0804 Australia >> >> Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725 >> Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021 >> Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5 >> sip: el_gallo_azul at ekiga.net >> sip: 473936 at sip.diamondcard.us >> sip: 0889451725 at sip.internode.on.net >> >> > > Hello. > > A couple of things occurred to me about this, which I posted to the > Linphone list (although, subsequent messages posted to that list, by > other people, appear to indicate a lack of technical support for > Linphone, by the developers). > > The first, is that, when I called you, I was using the default > settings for each of my applicable devices. In Ekiga, I had to change > the device setting for the microphone, and I changed it to what I had > set up for Skype. In Linphone, I was unable to find provision of an > Echo Test Call facility, thjat both Ekiga and Skype provide, so that, > in Ekiga and Skype, a user can check the functionality of the devices > and their settings, and, find whether what the user has set up, > actually works. > > As there appears to be no provision of that, in Linphone, I have no > way of testing and adjusting my device settings, to ensure that the > devices are properly set up. > > The second thing, is that when run ning each softphone software > application for the first time, Skype and Ekiga, from memory, prompt > for the setting up of a SIP account, so as to enable the user to make > calls across the Internet. Linphone does not do this, and, instead, > sets up a default SIP address, using the format > @, and, the IP address can, as is shown in > my case, the IP address within the LAN, which I do not want to be > published on the Internet. > > I subsequently found that that default SIP address supposedly allows > for cals within, and, only within, a LAN, and that, to call across the > Internet, a SIP accopunt that needs to be otherwise set up, is required. > > On the Linphone web site home page, on the left side, is a menu, with > one option being free SIP account. > > In clicking that, I was led through the procedure for setting up a SIP > account hosted by Linphone. > > It was not made clear that this is required, to make calls across the > Internet. > > And, it is not intuiotive, especially when Linphone automatically > creates a default SIP address, which, would appear to be all that is > required for making calls across the Internet. > > The "Free SIP account" option in the menu on the Linphone web page, > appears to be, without proceeding further with that option, by > selecting the button, no more than information about the provision of > that default SIP address. > > So, I believe that Linphone has critical deficiencies in its interface > and functionality. > > Also, I note that, in two attempts to send Chat messages to Greg > (Linphone to Ekiga), on each occasion, clicking on the button, > caused Linphone to crash (and the messages to be lost and not sent). > > Another curious thing; when I contacted Greg from Linphone (me using > Linphone to call Greg at his Ekiga SIP address), whilst the call > showed within Linphone, to have been successful, neither he nor I > could hear each other for the duration of each call attempt (after the > ringing stopped, there was silence, and, after 30s of silence, I > terminated each call). > > But, at the end of each of those unsuccesful calls, Greg could call me > (Ekiga account to Linphone account), successfully, and we could > successfully sustain a conversation, in each call thus made from Greg > to me. > > So, calling Linphone to Ekiga, does not work, and, > calling Ekiga to Linphone, does work, apparently. > > As I said to Greg, in one (or more) of the conversations, whilst the > concept of Linphone (especially, that it supposedly covers the > operating system platforms that it is supposed to cover, including MS > Windows, Linux, and, Apple Mac OSX), appears to be good, the Linphone > people have alot more work to do, to make it usable, and, at present, > other than using it for testing communications with other softphone > provision, such as testing for calling between Linphone and Ekiga, I > would not bother with it again, until it is shown to be working properly. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at busby.net Thu Feb 21 10:46:32 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:46:32 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about sharing of physical devices Message-ID: Hello. A question occurred to me, in a conversation with Greg. Where a person has accounts with more than one softphone access provider; eg, I have one with each of Skype, Ekiga and Linphone (although, at present, I am not so concerned with continuing use of Linphone), and, thence, an Ekiga account, a Skype account, and a Linphone account, can the physical devices be shared, so as to enable concurrent logins and access to the different accounts, thus allowing a user to be simultaneously connected to Skype, Ekiga and Linphone? >From memory, with some software, for example, audio and/or video recordings, trying to run one, while another is running/paused, can lead to an error message such as "device is busy", or "device is in use by another application, referring to a soundcard, graphics card, speakers, etc. I am curious. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:32:40 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:32:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51263E18.1020704@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 16/02/13 04:03, el_gallo_azul wrote: > I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test. > > 1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga 3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help. No need. As already said, 3.2 versions are not maintained, and 4.0 versions are much better. > 3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to see video of himself. Were an audio AND a video codec shown on the image or at its bottom? We need the debug output (-d 4) from the 4.0 machine to understand what happens. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:33:41 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:33:41 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <51263E55.2000507@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 00:08, Polaris wrote: > I was on the other end of this test. We first assumed that freezing up > and "loop back video" problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of You have not speak about "freezing up", but only about video problem. Also, the problem is not "loop back", but that the other party video is not shown. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:34:26 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:34:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51201189.5060504@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <51263E82.2040805@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 09:20, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I advise that I did manage to get through to Greg ("El Gallo"), and made > a voice call to him, and sustained the call, without any problems (once > I had realised that the problem that I encountered initially, was that I > had initially tried with the SIP address being incomplete). > > In the initial attempt, I had copied and pasted the SIP address from the > email mesage, but, in doing that (with my email application being > alpine, the replacement for PINE), the SIP address had been truncated at > the second underscore, so that the SIP address that had been attempted, > was azul at ekiga.net, which did not work. > > When I retried with the full SIP address, it worked well, for a voicecall. > > It was a voicecall, as his terminal was a cellphone which was connected > via WiFi to his LAN. > > The sound was clear. Wonderful! -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:35:52 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:35:52 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> Message-ID: <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: > Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package > repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above > as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x > amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:38:10 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:38:10 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <1361125737.5293.5.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <1361125737.5293.5.camel@athena.fbx.proxad.net> Message-ID: <51263F62.2060303@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 19:28, Yannick wrote: > Le dimanche 17 f?vrier 2013 ? 13:31 +0800, Bret Busby a ?crit : >> I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to >> make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet "connected up" >> with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via >> Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, >> and >> is of low resolution, compared with Skype. > > AFAIK the video codec used in the test call is the worst available i.e. > H.261. This explains the low resolution and the big pixels. > > Practically the test call shows if video works, it does not show how > good it can be. > > In a call with another client supporting better codec (especially H.264) > the video is much better. You can force ekiga to negotiate only with the > best codec (e.g H.264, or H.263) by deselecting other codecs in > preferences, or put the codec you wish in the top of the list. Agreed with all the above. > Unfortunately the test call will only accept H.261. Now it works for H263-1998 (all resolutions) and H264 too (low resolution), cf. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:43:53 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:43:53 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 17/02/13 00:03, Polaris wrote: > > Re #1: I was able to call another Ekiga user and had him call me. We > were able to repeat that several times; therefore the right ports are > open - yet I keep getting the same annoying error message every time > Ekiga starts. [the problems in our connections were described on the > thread: 'Ekiga test today'] What to do next? As far aas I can say, it is not easy to find out if it will work or not, so that text message will remain there. We have to think about all that. > Re #3: Is echo problem common place with Ekiga and is a head set the > only way to eliminate it? Yes for both; alternatively, I have seen USB microphone+speaker which do, they say, echo cancellation, probably in "hardware", but this needs to be tested. No VoIP free software has professional echo cancellation support. > Regarding Video Quality: > My camera supports res up to 720p, Ekiga is suppose to support up to > 480p but the picture I observed on my screen was rather poor. Besides > lighting, is there anything I can do to improve the picture? Use maximum available resolution in ekiga. Try also the video control small window in ekiga (lighting, contrast etc.), once the call window is shown. > On 2/12/2013 12:19 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote: >>> Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions: >>> >>> 1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error >>> message: >>> >>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/ >>> >>> I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that >>> they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops >>> up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is >>> everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message from >>> appearing? >> >> Check whether you can be called too. See >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 >> for some information. >> >>> 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things work, I >>> wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book was >>> unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available >>> for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the day and >>> am in GMT - 8 )? >>> >>> 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I enabled >>> echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? >> >> Echo cancellation is not high quality. Buy a headset. >> >>> 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy the >>> whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? >> >> Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:46:14 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:46:14 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51264146.5020208@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 20/02/13 04:15, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I have contacted one of my brothers, regarding Skype, and he has a Skype > account, but seldom uses it, and instead uses an application named > FaceTime, which is only Apple to Apple (I assume, MacOS), and he said > that FaceTime is better quality than Skype. > > On the web page at http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page , Ekiga > does not show as being able to be installed and run on MacOS. > > On the web page at > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability , Ekiga does not > show as being compatible with FaceTime for the MacOS. > > So, I am wondering whether any prospect exists, of Ekiga being ported to > MacOS. > > I do not know how many (either absolute number, or, relative (as > proportion of total) WWW (as in the graphical thing that runs on top of > the Internet) users, use Mac OS, or, how the number of Mac OS users, > compares to the number of Linux users, but, as Ekiga apparently runs on > Linux and other UNIX and Unix-like OS's, and, on MS Windows, I am > wondering about the prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS. Unfortunately, ekiga does not work on MacOS. We wait for someone with MacOS knowledge to help... -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:48:33 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:48:33 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] How to stop email delivery? In-Reply-To: <1361349068.68802.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130220061241.GA12513@Blackswan> <1361349068.68802.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <512641D1.8050108@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 20/02/13 09:31, Jim Habegger wrote: > I want to stop posts from being delivered to my email address. I've disabled mail delivery several times in the options. I've even tried logging out after I changed the options, and logging back in to be sure that the option was still disabled. The posts keep on being delivered anyway, and later when I go back to look at the options, the mail delivery is enabled again. Is there any way to disable the mail delivery, and keep it that way, until I want to enable it again? > WebRep > Overall rating > This site has no rating > (not enough votes) > WebRep > Overall rating > This site has no rating > (not enough votes) > WebRep > Overall rating > This site has no rating > (not enough votes) > WebRep > Overall rating > This site has no rating > (not enough votes) Look at the Web page at the bottom of each post, and unsubscribe yourself. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:51:17 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:51:17 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Any prospect of Ekiga being ported to MacOS In-Reply-To: References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51264275.5020901@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 20/02/13 10:22, Bret Busby wrote: > Using Linphone, I have just attempted a phone call to you (Greg). > Linphone shows the call as having been successful, with a duration of > about 45 seconds, but, after the ringing stopped, the line went quiet, > and I did not hear any sound coming from the other end. We need the -d 4 log on ekiga to understand what happens. Please use 4.0 version of ekiga for that. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Thu Feb 21 15:55:02 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:55:02 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about sharing of physical devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51264356.6070200@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 21/02/13 11:46, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > A question occurred to me, in a conversation with Greg. > > Where a person has accounts with more than one softphone access > provider; eg, I have one with each of Skype, Ekiga and Linphone > (although, at present, I am not so concerned with continuing use of > Linphone), and, thence, an Ekiga account, a Skype account, and a > Linphone account, can the physical devices be shared, so as to enable > concurrent logins and access to the different accounts, thus allowing a > user to be simultaneously connected to Skype, Ekiga and Linphone? It depends. For ex., ekiga listens on port 5060, and if linphone uses the same port the two programs will not function properly. The devices themselves should not be a problem I think, since they are opened only during communication. The accounts are not a problem either, as soon as they use different providers on the three programs. >> From memory, with some software, for example, audio and/or video > recordings, trying to run one, while another is running/paused, can lead > to an error message such as "device is busy", or "device is in use by > another application, referring to a soundcard, graphics card, speakers, > etc. Indeed, because that device is opened in one program (which uses it), and the other one wants to open it too. -- Eugen From ford.davidj at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 19:02:24 2013 From: ford.davidj at gmail.com (David Ford) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] How to stop email delivery? In-Reply-To: References: <1361332973.85874.YahooMailNeo@web161606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130220061241.GA12513@Blackswan> <1361349068.68802.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512641D1.8050108@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On 21 February 2013 18:54, David Ford wrote: > Just a note - gmail, at least, hides this information and you need to > click on the icon of three dots at the bottom of the email to show it - > perhaps it would be better if there was another way to show the links or to > un-subscribe as I'm sure many people will have email readers that hide all > the 'unnecessary' clutter from their emails > David > > > On 21 February 2013 15:48, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >> On 20/02/13 09:31, Jim Habegger wrote: >> >>> I want to stop posts from being delivered to my email address. I've >>> disabled mail delivery several times in the options. I've even tried >>> logging out after I changed the options, and logging back in to be sure >>> that the option was still disabled. The posts keep on being delivered >>> anyway, and later when I go back to look at the options, the mail delivery >>> is enabled again. Is there any way to disable the mail delivery, and keep >>> it that way, until I want to enable it again? >>> WebRep >>> Overall rating >>> This site has no rating >>> (not enough votes) >>> WebRep >>> Overall rating >>> This site has no rating >>> (not enough votes) >>> WebRep >>> Overall rating >>> This site has no rating >>> (not enough votes) >>> WebRep >>> Overall rating >>> This site has no rating >>> (not enough votes) >>> >> >> Look at the Web page at the bottom of each post, and unsubscribe yourself. >> >> -- >> Eugen >> ______________________________**_________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > > > > -- > More words - More pictures > http://www.ja2da.com > -- More words - More pictures http://www.ja2da.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at busby.net Fri Feb 22 16:41:38 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:41:38 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Feature request Message-ID: Hello. I do not know whether this is the correct place to make this feature request, but I will ask, anyway. In Ekiga, when I search the Ekiga.net directory for a name, for example, busby, it returns a list of (11) people with the string "busby" in our names (I say "Our", as I am included). But, in the window in which the names are listed, it does not include locations. Similarly, if I search using the string "New Zealand", it returns only a name that includes the string "New Zealand" within the name. In Skype, in the personal profile, it can include Mobile Phone Number, Country, City, and Language. Is it possible to include, in the Personal Data screen in Ekiga, boxes to enter, in addition to Full name, also, Locality (allowing for town, and districts, in addition to cities/suburbs, and, an abbreviation for state/province), Country, and Language, and, possibly, timezone (in terms of ), and, for this information to be displayed in the Contacts, and Address Book Search results, windows, in a format like Full name...Language...Locality...Country...Timezone ? Once again, I do not know whether this is already included in the latest version of Ekiga, but, if not, it could be useful, and, could avoid people calling other people at incovenient times (provided people enter, and, use, the Timezone values). If it is already included in the latest vesion of Ekiga, then I apologise for making the request without that knowledge. As stated previously, my version number of Ekiga is 3.2.7. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 22 18:18:50 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:18:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Feature request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5127B68A.7050808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 22/02/13 17:41, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I do not know whether this is the correct place to make this feature > request, but I will ask, anyway. > > In Ekiga, when I search the Ekiga.net directory for a name, for example, > busby, it returns a list of (11) people with the string "busby" in our > names (I say "Our", as I am included). > > But, in the window in which the names are listed, it does not include > locations. > > Similarly, if I search using the string "New Zealand", it returns only a > name that includes the string "New Zealand" within the name. > > In Skype, in the personal profile, it can include Mobile Phone Number, > Country, City, and Language. > > Is it possible to include, in the Personal Data screen in Ekiga, boxes > to enter, in addition to Full name, also, Locality (allowing for town, > and districts, in addition to cities/suburbs, and, an abbreviation for > state/province), Country, and Language, and, possibly, timezone (in > terms of ), and, for this information to be displayed in the > Contacts, and Address Book Search results, windows, in a format like > Full name...Language...Locality...Country...Timezone > ? > > Once again, I do not know whether this is already included in the latest > version of Ekiga, but, if not, it could be useful, and, could avoid > people calling other people at incovenient times (provided people enter, > and, use, the Timezone values). It is a useful feature I think. It was available once upon the time, but now it is not available anymore. As ekiga is now stable and major bugs have been fixed, we can think about this enhancement too. -- Eugen From bret at busby.net Fri Feb 22 18:34:35 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:34:35 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 > From: Eugen Dedu > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today > > On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: >> Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package >> repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above >> as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x >> amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. > > I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental > (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or > otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. > > -- > Eugen > >From the web page specified; http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html is " versions ... oldstable 2.0.12-1+nmu1 stable 3.2.7-2 testing 3.2.7-5 unstable 3.2.7-5 exp 4.0.0-1 " I am running, as stated above; 3.2.7-2 - the version applicable to Debian stable (Debian 6.0.x). In Debian, the experimental version (the version of Debian that is running 4.0.0-1), is known as "sid", named after the boy in Toy Story, who was known for breaking things; thus, Debian experimental is regarded as being known to break things. Similarly, any package for Debian experimental, is not regarded as being appropriate to instal on any system that is used for running software for any purpose other than testing software and repeatedly rebuilding the system due to damage done by the software being tested. Or, that is my understanding, anyway. Other people may understand it differently. Perhaps, if Ekiga 4.x is released as a Debian package (.deb file) that can be installed by the Debian package managers, on Debian 6.0.x, it would be used more by users, as it would then be easy to instal, as is the package stored in the Debian Linux 6.0.x repository. One of the things then to ask - are the personal data and configuration settings, stored in the home directory, or, within the ekiga installation directory? If the information is stored in the home directory, then installing a new version of the software, should not eliminate the existing data, but the existing data should be picked up by the new version of the software, upon running it for the first time, after installation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From polaris at vfemail.net Fri Feb 22 19:07:46 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:07:46 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5127C202.8060903@vfemail.net> Re #1 (port error message): In case the details of my setup will help to figure out the reason, here they are: I was running Ekiga 4.0.0 under Win XP sp2 on a Pentium III box without any firewall on it. My firewall is m0n0wall running on a separate box acting as a gateway. If I can make calls just fine and in case, due to the particulars of my set up, Ekiga is unable to automatically test for open ports, is it possible to change something manually within Ekiga so as not to see this annoying message? Thanks. On 2/21/2013 7:43 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 17/02/13 00:03, Polaris wrote: >> >> Re #1: I was able to call another Ekiga user and had him call me. We >> were able to repeat that several times; therefore the right ports are >> open - yet I keep getting the same annoying error message every time >> Ekiga starts. [the problems in our connections were described on the >> thread: 'Ekiga test today'] What to do next? > > As far aas I can say, it is not easy to find out if it will work or > not, so that text message will remain there. We have to think about > all that. > >> Re #3: Is echo problem common place with Ekiga and is a head set the >> only way to eliminate it? > > Yes for both; alternatively, I have seen USB microphone+speaker which > do, they say, echo cancellation, probably in "hardware", but this > needs to be tested. No VoIP free software has professional echo > cancellation support. > >> Regarding Video Quality: >> My camera supports res up to 720p, Ekiga is suppose to support up to >> 480p but the picture I observed on my screen was rather poor. Besides >> lighting, is there anything I can do to improve the picture? > > Use maximum available resolution in ekiga. Try also the video control > small window in ekiga (lighting, contrast etc.), once the call window > is shown. > >> On 2/12/2013 12:19 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote: >>>> Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions: >>>> >>>> 1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error >>>> message: >>>> >>>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/ >>>> >>>> I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that >>>> they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops >>>> up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is >>>> everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message >>>> from >>>> appearing? >>> >>> Check whether you can be called too. See >>> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 >>> >>> for some information. >>> >>>> 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things >>>> work, I >>>> wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book >>>> was >>>> unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available >>>> for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the >>>> day and >>>> am in GMT - 8 )? >>>> >>>> 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I >>>> enabled >>>> echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? >>> >>> Echo cancellation is not high quality. Buy a headset. >>> >>>> 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy >>>> the >>>> whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? >>> >>> Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From polaris at vfemail.net Fri Feb 22 19:09:21 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:09:21 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> What's the best thing to do under Windows? On 2/20/2013 10:26 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > If you installed 4.0.0 manually, youmust uninstall it first. If you > used package from your distribution, then installing 4.0.1 will remove > 4.0.0 automatically. > > On 21/02/13 07:06, Polaris wrote: >> Can 4.0.1 be installed over 4.0.0 or is it best to uninstall 4.0.0 >> first? >> >> >> On 2/20/2013 3:13 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals >>> exclusively with bug fixing. >>> >>> The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, >>> especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this >>> making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, >>> and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, >>> look for XML parsing below >>> (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). >>> >>> >>> >>> We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of >>> ekiga. >>> >>> The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing >>> obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and >>> communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of >>> ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the >>> much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. >>> >>> >>> * What is it ? >>> ============== >>> >>> Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do >>> free audio and video calls over the Internet. >>> >>> Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and >>> SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as >>> GnomeMeeting. >>> >>> More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org >>> >>> >>> * Where to get it ? >>> =================== >>> >>> Ekiga is available at: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ >>> and the required librairies can be found at: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ >>> >>> Install executable for Windows OS: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ >>> >>> * What's changed ? >>> ================== >>> >>> ** User-visible fixes >>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information >>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN >>> ending) >>> - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are >>> changing >>> - Fix crash when receiving call a second time >>> - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code >>> - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless >>> OPTIONS >>> - Several fixes for H.323: >>> - fix H.323 parsing >>> - add the username in authentication >>> - fix unregistering the gatekeeper >>> - fix registration >>> - assign gk_name only if success >>> - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not >>> built-in >>> - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item >>> offered >>> - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing >>> registration >>> - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call >>> - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is >>> released >>> - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP >>> accounts >>> - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting >>> - Stop ongoing registration when remove account >>> - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices >>> - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the >>> host later >>> - Increase number of characters shown in device names >>> - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook >>> - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook >>> - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too >>> - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled >>> - Hide the main window immediately on exit >>> - Handle xa status as away >>> - Fix debugging message when registering >>> - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history >>> - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close >>> together >>> - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages >>> - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten >>> is off >>> - Send OPTION only on the right interface >>> - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages >>> - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 >>> - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP >>> - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is >>> received >>> - Various other fixes >>> ** Distributor-visible changes >>> ** Windows port fixes >>> - Fix freeze on quit >>> - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in >>> H.239 >>> - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now >>> - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin >>> - Add emoticons icons used for chat >>> - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time >>> ** Build fixes >>> - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not >>> - Some code cleanup >>> ** Translation updates >>> - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR >>> - Update help translations: pt_BR >>> >>> On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, >>> Eugen Dedu > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From polaris at vfemail.net Fri Feb 22 19:15:47 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:15:47 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5127C3E3.6060507@vfemail.net> Under Windows, where does Ekiga keep its configuration settings and user profiles (ie: how to back it up)? On 2/20/2013 10:26 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > If you installed 4.0.0 manually, youmust uninstall it first. If you > used package from your distribution, then installing 4.0.1 will remove > 4.0.0 automatically. > > On 21/02/13 07:06, Polaris wrote: >> Can 4.0.1 be installed over 4.0.0 or is it best to uninstall 4.0.0 >> first? >> >> >> On 2/20/2013 3:13 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals >>> exclusively with bug fixing. >>> >>> The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, >>> especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this >>> making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, >>> and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, >>> look for XML parsing below >>> (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). >>> >>> >>> >>> We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of >>> ekiga. >>> >>> The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing >>> obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and >>> communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of >>> ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the >>> much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. >>> >>> >>> * What is it ? >>> ============== >>> >>> Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do >>> free audio and video calls over the Internet. >>> >>> Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and >>> SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as >>> GnomeMeeting. >>> >>> More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org >>> >>> >>> * Where to get it ? >>> =================== >>> >>> Ekiga is available at: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ >>> and the required librairies can be found at: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ >>> >>> Install executable for Windows OS: >>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ >>> >>> * What's changed ? >>> ================== >>> >>> ** User-visible fixes >>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information >>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN >>> ending) >>> - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are >>> changing >>> - Fix crash when receiving call a second time >>> - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code >>> - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless >>> OPTIONS >>> - Several fixes for H.323: >>> - fix H.323 parsing >>> - add the username in authentication >>> - fix unregistering the gatekeeper >>> - fix registration >>> - assign gk_name only if success >>> - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not >>> built-in >>> - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item >>> offered >>> - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing >>> registration >>> - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call >>> - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is >>> released >>> - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP >>> accounts >>> - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting >>> - Stop ongoing registration when remove account >>> - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices >>> - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the >>> host later >>> - Increase number of characters shown in device names >>> - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook >>> - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook >>> - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too >>> - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled >>> - Hide the main window immediately on exit >>> - Handle xa status as away >>> - Fix debugging message when registering >>> - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history >>> - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close >>> together >>> - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages >>> - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten >>> is off >>> - Send OPTION only on the right interface >>> - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages >>> - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 >>> - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP >>> - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is >>> received >>> - Various other fixes >>> ** Distributor-visible changes >>> ** Windows port fixes >>> - Fix freeze on quit >>> - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in >>> H.239 >>> - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now >>> - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin >>> - Add emoticons icons used for chat >>> - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time >>> ** Build fixes >>> - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not >>> - Some code cleanup >>> ** Translation updates >>> - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR >>> - Update help translations: pt_BR >>> >>> On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, >>> Eugen Dedu > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From bret at busby.net Fri Feb 22 19:20:46 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:20:46 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5127C3E3.6060507@vfemail.net> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C3E3.6060507@vfemail.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: > > Under Windows, where does Ekiga keep its configuration settings and user > profiles (ie: how to back it up)? > > See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Windows I hope that has the information that you need. Out of interest, if it has not happened already, MS support for Windows XP is ending in a month or so. That means no more seciurity patches. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 22 19:48:24 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:48:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5127CB88.4090805@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 22/02/13 19:34, Bret Busby wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 >> From: Eugen Dedu >> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today >> >> On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package >>> repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above >>> as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x >>> amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. >> >> I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental >> (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do >> that, or otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. >> >> -- >> Eugen >> > >> From the web page specified; http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html > is > > " > versions ... > oldstable > 2.0.12-1+nmu1 > stable > 3.2.7-2 > testing > 3.2.7-5 > unstable > 3.2.7-5 > exp > 4.0.0-1 " > > I am running, as stated above; 3.2.7-2 - the version applicable to > Debian stable (Debian 6.0.x). > > In Debian, the experimental version (the version of Debian that is > running 4.0.0-1), is known as "sid", named after the boy in Toy Story, > who was known for breaking things; thus, Debian experimental is regarded > as being known to break things. Similarly, any package for Debian > experimental, is not regarded as being appropriate to instal on any > system that is used for running software for any purpose other than > testing software and repeatedly rebuilding the system due to damage done > by the software being tested. > > Or, that is my understanding, anyway. > > Other people may understand it differently. > > Perhaps, if Ekiga 4.x is released as a Debian package (.deb file) that > can be installed by the Debian package managers, on Debian 6.0.x, it > would be used more by users, as it would then be easy to instal, as is > the package stored in the Debian Linux 6.0.x repository. > > One of the things then to ask - are the personal data and configuration > settings, stored in the home directory, or, within the ekiga > installation directory? In home directory. > If the information is stored in the home directory, then installing a > new version of the software, should not eliminate the existing data, but > the existing data should be picked up by the new version of the > software, upon running it for the first time, after installation. You are right. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 22 19:49:13 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:49:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <5127C202.8060903@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C202.8060903@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <5127CBB9.9000400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 22/02/13 20:07, Polaris wrote: > Re #1 (port error message): > In case the details of my setup will help to figure out the reason, here > they are: > > I was running Ekiga 4.0.0 under Win XP sp2 on a Pentium III box without > any firewall on it. My firewall is m0n0wall running on a separate box > acting as a gateway. > > If I can make calls just fine and in case, due to the particulars of my > set up, Ekiga is unable to automatically test for open ports, is it > possible to change something manually within Ekiga so as not to see this > annoying message? No, sorry. We will think about that. > On 2/21/2013 7:43 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> On 17/02/13 00:03, Polaris wrote: >>> >>> Re #1: I was able to call another Ekiga user and had him call me. We >>> were able to repeat that several times; therefore the right ports are >>> open - yet I keep getting the same annoying error message every time >>> Ekiga starts. [the problems in our connections were described on the >>> thread: 'Ekiga test today'] What to do next? >> >> As far aas I can say, it is not easy to find out if it will work or >> not, so that text message will remain there. We have to think about >> all that. >> >>> Re #3: Is echo problem common place with Ekiga and is a head set the >>> only way to eliminate it? >> >> Yes for both; alternatively, I have seen USB microphone+speaker which >> do, they say, echo cancellation, probably in "hardware", but this >> needs to be tested. No VoIP free software has professional echo >> cancellation support. >> >>> Regarding Video Quality: >>> My camera supports res up to 720p, Ekiga is suppose to support up to >>> 480p but the picture I observed on my screen was rather poor. Besides >>> lighting, is there anything I can do to improve the picture? >> >> Use maximum available resolution in ekiga. Try also the video control >> small window in ekiga (lighting, contrast etc.), once the call window >> is shown. >> >>> On 2/12/2013 12:19 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote: >>>>> Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error >>>>> message: >>>>> >>>>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/ >>>>> >>>>> I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that >>>>> they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops >>>>> up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is >>>>> everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message >>>>> from >>>>> appearing? >>>> >>>> Check whether you can be called too. See >>>> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 >>>> >>>> for some information. >>>> >>>>> 2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things >>>>> work, I >>>>> wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book >>>>> was >>>>> unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available >>>>> for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the >>>>> day and >>>>> am in GMT - 8 )? >>>>> >>>>> 3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I >>>>> enabled >>>>> echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound? >>>> >>>> Echo cancellation is not high quality. Buy a headset. >>>> >>>>> 4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy >>>>> the >>>>> whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)? >>>> >>>> Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Fri Feb 22 19:50:21 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:50:21 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <5127CBFD.40205@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Just install the new version; it will remove the previous one. On 22/02/13 20:09, Polaris wrote: > What's the best thing to do under Windows? > > On 2/20/2013 10:26 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> If you installed 4.0.0 manually, youmust uninstall it first. If you >> used package from your distribution, then installing 4.0.1 will remove >> 4.0.0 automatically. >> >> On 21/02/13 07:06, Polaris wrote: >>> Can 4.0.1 be installed over 4.0.0 or is it best to uninstall 4.0.0 >>> first? >>> >>> >>> On 2/20/2013 3:13 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals >>>> exclusively with bug fixing. >>>> >>>> The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, >>>> especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this >>>> making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, >>>> and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix, >>>> look for XML parsing below >>>> (http://opalvoip.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opalvoip?view=revision&revision=28856). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of >>>> ekiga. >>>> >>>> The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing >>>> obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and >>>> communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of >>>> ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the >>>> much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. >>>> >>>> >>>> * What is it ? >>>> ============== >>>> >>>> Ekiga is a free Voice and Video over IP softphone allowing you to do >>>> free audio and video calls over the Internet. >>>> >>>> Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and >>>> SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as >>>> GnomeMeeting. >>>> >>>> More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org >>>> >>>> >>>> * Where to get it ? >>>> =================== >>>> >>>> Ekiga is available at: >>>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/4.0/ >>>> and the required librairies can be found at: >>>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/3.10/ >>>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ptlib/2.10/ >>>> >>>> Install executable for Windows OS: >>>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ >>>> >>>> * What's changed ? >>>> ================== >>>> >>>> ** User-visible fixes >>>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga while receiving presence information >>>> - Fix crash when quitting ekiga right after starting it (before STUN >>>> ending) >>>> - Fix crash when disabling an account while icons in roster are >>>> changing >>>> - Fix crash when receiving call a second time >>>> - Fix crash in XML parsing in case of malicious code >>>> - Fix increasing CPU usage afer hours of usage caused by endless >>>> OPTIONS >>>> - Several fixes for H.323: >>>> - fix H.323 parsing >>>> - add the username in authentication >>>> - fix unregistering the gatekeeper >>>> - fix registration >>>> - assign gk_name only if success >>>> - do not propose adding an H.323 account if the protocol is not >>>> built-in >>>> - Fix registration for registrars accepting the last Contact item >>>> offered >>>> - Allow to change the REGISTER compatibility mode of an existing >>>> registration >>>> - Fix impossibility to hangup active call after a missed call >>>> - Fix busy or call forwarding on busy occuring when connection is >>>> released >>>> - Fix subscribing/unsubscribing when enabling and disabling SIP >>>> accounts >>>> - Do not show is-typing messages sent by other programs during chatting >>>> - Stop ongoing registration when remove account >>>> - Use meaningful names for ALSA sub-devices >>>> - Allow to enter contact addresses without host part, and choose the >>>> host later >>>> - Increase number of characters shown in device names >>>> - Use a better icon for call history in addressbook >>>> - Show the address instead of "telephoneNumber" in addressbook >>>> - Deactivate NullAudio ptlib's device for audio input too >>>> - Do not send OPTIONS messages once the account is disabled >>>> - Hide the main window immediately on exit >>>> - Handle xa status as away >>>> - Fix debugging message when registering >>>> - Fix race condition leading to duplicate entry in call history >>>> - Fix incoming call if two INVITE's in a fork arrive very close >>>> together >>>> - Use correct username in OPTIONS messages >>>> - Allow to have message waiting indication even if asterisk's vmexten >>>> is off >>>> - Send OPTION only on the right interface >>>> - Fix buttons direction in dialpad for RTL languages >>>> - Fix aborting RTP receiver with Polycom HDX8000 >>>> - Fix possible incorrect jitter calculation for RTCP >>>> - Only kill REGISTER/SUBSCRIBE forks if a "try again" response is >>>> received >>>> - Various other fixes >>>> ** Distributor-visible changes >>>> ** Windows port fixes >>>> - Fix freeze on quit >>>> - Allow to dynamically switch between main and extended streams in >>>> H.239 >>>> - Enable iLBC audio codec, as it is free now >>>> - Disable obsolete VideoForWindows ptlib plugin >>>> - Add emoticons icons used for chat >>>> - Remove unuseful messages when starting ekiga the first time >>>> ** Build fixes >>>> - Fix building opal when java SDK installed and swig is not >>>> - Some code cleanup >>>> ** Translation updates >>>> - Update translations: fr, ml, pt_BR >>>> - Update help translations: pt_BR >>>> >>>> On behalf of Ekiga/ptlib/opal teams, >>>> Eugen Dedu From polaris at vfemail.net Fri Feb 22 20:07:32 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:07:32 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C3E3.6060507@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <5127D004.7020807@vfemail.net> I don't use Windows firewall, MS Internet Explorer or MS email client, so I am not too concerned about their security patches. If time will prove me wrong - I'll switch. On 2/22/2013 11:20 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote: > >> >> Under Windows, where does Ekiga keep its configuration settings and >> user profiles (ie: how to back it up)? >> >> > > See http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Windows > > I hope that has the information that you need. > > Out of interest, if it has not happened already, MS support for > Windows XP is ending in a month or so. That means no more seciurity > patches. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From polaris at vfemail.net Fri Feb 22 20:45:44 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:45:44 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> Re: open port error message Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I get a message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for me... ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 23 09:04:15 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:04:15 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: > Re: open port error message > > Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is > still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the > system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could > not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I get a > message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for > me... I would be interested to give me a log (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. -- Eugen From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 23 11:19:56 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:19:56 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Unable to register - 606 Not Acceptable error In-Reply-To: References: <512418AD.3050808@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5128A5DC.2080605@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 20/02/13 21:56, Valentina Manea wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Eugen Dedu > wrote: >> >> >> It is a bit weird. I have just made a minor commit fixing a debugging text. >> Could you please use latest master and repost a debugging output? Also, an >> output when the account name (not the user!) contains the string %limit, cf. >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Troubleshooting#Cannot_register_to_sip.1und1.de_or_some_other_registrar_with_ekiga_.3C.3D_3.2.x >> >> -- >> Eugen > > Hello, Eugen, and thank you for your reply. > > First of all, I have discovered that my router had a SIP ALG > activated. Deactivating it produced some interesting results. > > On the latest version from the repo: > Debugging output with %limit: http://pastebin.ca/2316086 > Debugging output without %limit: http://pastebin.ca/2316085 > > What happens is that the client gets stuck in an endless loop. Account > status remains "Processing ..." for ever and ever. Sorry, I forgot to tell you that you need to update ptlib and opal too, not only ekiga, since registration code is found in opal, and there were two registration fixes since then. So updating only ekiga was useless. I have just made a commit so that ekiga now asks for latest ptlib/opal releases. So please uninstall ptlib, opal and ekiga and build them again (2.10.10, 3.10.10, and ekiga master). Afterwards, if registration is still unsuccessful, give me a log without %limit, with %limit. > I have also tested today in another NAT. In that case, it *sometimes* > works with the %limit set. I could not determine exactly a pattern. In > all other cases, it remains stuck in the same loop. If the new build still does not work in this NAT, it would be useful to have a log where it works and another one where it does not. > Some other VoIP options in my router have drawn my attention: > http://i.imgur.com/k0G9E2c.png > Perhaps some of these timers are not properly set? These are the > factory defaults. I think they are good. -- Eugen From bret at busby.net Sat Feb 23 14:56:23 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:56:23 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:35:52 > From: Eugen Dedu > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list > To: Ekiga mailing list > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today > > On 17/02/13 06:31, Bret Busby wrote: >> Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package >> repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above >> as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x >> amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU. > > I suggest you to install ekiga frome experimental > (http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ekiga.html), if you know how to do that, or > otherwise wait for 1-2 months until it appears in unstable. > > -- > Eugen > Hello. This probably appears "long-winded", but, please read all of it, to understand it. Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try to connect using Ekiga. All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, all I would see, would be a still image of me. The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a record of what was occurring. However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. Thw web page at http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=ekiga (showing results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows " Exact hits Package ekiga squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc " At http://ekiga.org/ is " Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 Hello everyone, This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals exclusively with bug fixing. The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. " At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is information showing that the latest version available for most Linux stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version (10.04) is 3.2.6. The problems that Greg and I have been encountering, have probably been mostly resolved by the 4.0.0.1 version. On the web page at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ekiga which relates to the version of Ekiga that is available for Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x, that I am running, is shown " Package: ekiga (3.2.7-2) " and " Maintainers: Kilian Krause (QA Page) Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo (QA Page) Eugen Dedu (QA Page) Debian GNOME Maintainers (QA Page, Mail Archive) Josselin Mouette (QA Page) " who I assume (but I am not certain of my understanding of this) are the maintainers of the specific version of the package, that is available for the particular version of Debian Linux. So, my question is this; could the package maintainers for the version of Ekiga that is applicable to Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x), please create and make available a Debian package (the applicable .deb file) of the latest stable version of Ekiga, for installation and updating of current installations of the Ekiga 3.2.x package, on the i386 and amd64 architectures? I name those two architectures, as I believe that they are by far the most common architectures, at present. As far as I am aware, Debian pacxkages (the .deb files) can still be installed on Ubuntu (but, I cannot say that for certain, as it is a while since I have used Ubuntu), and, if that is correct, that should take care of both the Debian and Ubuntu distributions, for people who use the stable versions of each. The thing is that the version of Ekiga that Greg and I have installed; 3.2.x, is superseded, and, the problems that we are encountering, are probably fixed, in the latest stable version of Ekiga, and, for us to continue to try to run the superseded software, and, report on problems that we encounter with the superseded soiftware, is probably redundant. I do not know how much work is involved, in creating an installable Debian package that resolves dependencies and conflicts, or, equally, how complicated it is, but, I believe that the package maintainers would better know that, than me, and, would be more able to do that, than I would be able to instal software from source or from binaries. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sat Feb 23 18:33:40 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:33:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <51290B84.7080702@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 23/02/13 15:56, Bret Busby wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > > Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try > to connect using Ekiga. > > All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, > whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not > either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, > all I would see, would be a still image of me. > > The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that > often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. > > Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a > record of what was occurring. > > However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. > The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. > > Thw web page at > http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=ekiga (showing > results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows > > " > Exact hits > Package ekiga > squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client > 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc > wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client > 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 > mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc > sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client > 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 > kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc > 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 > 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa > 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k > experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client > 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips > mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc > " > > At http://ekiga.org/ is > > " > Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available > Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 > Hello everyone, > This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals > exclusively with bug fixing. > The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, > especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this > making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, > and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. > We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. > The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing > obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and > communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of > ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the > much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. > " > > At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is > information showing that the latest version available for most Linux > stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version > (10.04) is 3.2.6. That page has some obsolete information. It is not easy to catch up with all distributions. Maybe it is better to simply use http://pkgs.org/download/ekiga. > The problems that Greg and I have been encountering, have probably been > mostly resolved by the 4.0.0.1 version. I am pretty sure that your problems are fixed with 4.0.0 or better 4.0.1. > On the web page at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ekiga which > relates to the version of Ekiga that is available for Debian stable > (Debian Linux v6.0.x, that I am running, is shown > > " > Package: ekiga (3.2.7-2) > " > > and > > " > Maintainers: > Kilian Krause (QA Page) > Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo (QA Page) > Eugen Dedu (QA Page) > Debian GNOME Maintainers (QA Page, Mail Archive) > Josselin Mouette (QA Page) > " > > who I assume (but I am not certain of my understanding of this) are the > maintainers of the specific version of the package, that is available > for the particular version of Debian Linux. > > So, my question is this; could the package maintainers for the version > of Ekiga that is applicable to Debian stable (Debian Linux v6.0.x), > please create and make available a Debian package (the applicable .deb > file) of the latest stable version of Ekiga, for installation and > updating of current installations of the Ekiga 3.2.x package, on the > i386 and amd64 architectures? I name those two architectures, as I > believe that they are by far the most common architectures, at present. Debian stable itself will not accept a new ekiga package. On the other hand, we (ekiga developers) could indeed create packages for debian stable and make them available on our website. However, this is not how software distribution works, because this would mean that developers of a package must bother with all linux distributions, and we simply do not have time and machines to do this. Our focus is on the program itself, not its packaging for debian, ubuntu, fedora, arch, gentoo, slackware etc. etc. and for architecture x, y, z... > As far as I am aware, Debian pacxkages (the .deb files) can still be > installed on Ubuntu (but, I cannot say that for certain, as it is a > while since I have used Ubuntu), and, if that is correct, that should > take care of both the Debian and Ubuntu distributions, for people who > use the stable versions of each. > > The thing is that the version of Ekiga that Greg and I have installed; > 3.2.x, is superseded, and, the problems that we are encountering, are > probably fixed, in the latest stable version of Ekiga, and, for us to > continue to try to run the superseded software, and, report on problems > that we encounter with the superseded soiftware, is probably redundant. > > I do not know how much work is involved, in creating an installable > Debian package that resolves dependencies and conflicts, or, equally, > how complicated it is, but, I believe that the package maintainers would > better know that, than me, and, would be more able to do that, than I > would be able to instal software from source or from binaries. I create snapshots (current ekiga code) for debian unstable. I cannot do for debian stable for two architectures and so on. -- Eugen From bret at busby.net Sat Feb 23 18:51:54 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:51:54 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today In-Reply-To: <51290B84.7080702@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <1360983780.39982.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130216071630.65390@gmx.com> <51263ED8.1000809@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <51290B84.7080702@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > > On 23/02/13 15:56, Bret Busby wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> >> Greg and I today (23 February) had multiple unsuccessful attempts to try >> to connect using Ekiga. >> >> All kinds of things were going wrong, and, for all of the call attempts, >> whilst (mostly) calls were showing as being connected, we could not >> either hear or see each other, and, for my part, in the video window, >> all I would see, would be a still image of me. >> >> The only thing that we could get working, was the Chat window, but, that >> often showed me as offline or unavailable, when I was online and available. >> >> Greg, from what I understand, started collecting images and making a >> record of what was occurring. >> >> However, we are both running Ekiga 3.2.x for Linux. >> The latest available version, is apparently, 4.0.1. >> >> Thw web page at >> http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=ekiga >> (showing >> results for searchin for Ekiga packages for all versions of Debian, shows >> >> " >> Exact hits >> Package ekiga >> squeeze (stable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client >> 3.2.7-2: amd64 armel i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc >> wheezy (testing) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client >> 3.2.7-5+b1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 >> mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc >> sid (unstable) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client >> 3.2.7-5+b1: alpha amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 >> kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc >> 3.2.7-5 [debports]: sh4 sparc64 >> 3.2.7-2+b1: hppa >> 2.0.11-2 [debports]: m68k >> experimental (rc-buggy) (gnome): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client >> 4.0.0-1: amd64 armel armhf i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips >> mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc >> " >> >> At http://ekiga.org/ is >> >> " >> Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available >> Submitted by Yannick Defais on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 01:01 >> Hello everyone, >> This is the first update of the 4.0.0 stable release. It deals >> exclusively with bug fixing. >> The most important change is fixing ALL known crashes and freezes, >> especially the long-standing freeze on quit on Windows. Add to this >> making H.323 with gatekeeper functional again, two registration fixes, >> and numerous other fixes here and there. There is also a security fix. >> We encourage everyone to upgrade to this latest greatest version of ekiga. >> The next release will be 4.0.2 or 4.2.0, targetted mainly at replacing >> obsolete technologies and fixing remaining registration and >> communication issues. After 4.2.0, we will switch to using v12 of >> ptlib/opal underlying libraries and will be able to provide the >> much-awaited communication encryption and IPv6 support. >> " >> >> At http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux is >> information showing that the latest version available for most Linux >> stable versions, is 3.2.7, and, for the latest Ubuntu LTS version >> (10.04) is 3.2.6. > > That page has some obsolete information. It is not easy to catch up with all > distributions. Maybe it is better to simply use > http://pkgs.org/download/ekiga. > That web page still has the same versions of Ekiga, for Debian stable and for Ubuntu LTS. It appears that I will have to wait for version 4.0.1 to filter through to a Debian Linux stable version, before I can use Ekiga again, and, before I can use Ekiga for video calls. I note that, for me, in Ekiga, in the View menu, the "Remote video" option was always greyed out (unable to be selected), in the calls with Greg, that were as successful as they were. I was apparently wrong about Debian "sid" - that appears, from the version of Ekiga, listed in the web page mentioned in the last paragraph above, of Eugen's message, to be Debian unstable, rather than Debian experimental. I tend to get confused by the names for the Debian versions, which is one of the reasons that I prefer to use the version numbers and the status names ("stable", "testing", and "unstable"), rather than the "version names" ("squeezy", "wheezy", and "sid"). Anyway, thank you for your reply. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From bret at busby.net Sun Feb 24 05:12:18 2013 From: bret at busby.net (Bret Busby) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:12:18 +0800 (WST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about sharing of physical devices In-Reply-To: <51264356.6070200@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <51264356.6070200@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Eugen Dedu wrote: > > On 21/02/13 11:46, Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> A question occurred to me, in a conversation with Greg. >> >> Where a person has accounts with more than one softphone access >> provider; eg, I have one with each of Skype, Ekiga and Linphone >> (although, at present, I am not so concerned with continuing use of >> Linphone), and, thence, an Ekiga account, a Skype account, and a >> Linphone account, can the physical devices be shared, so as to enable >> concurrent logins and access to the different accounts, thus allowing a >> user to be simultaneously connected to Skype, Ekiga and Linphone? > > It depends. For ex., ekiga listens on port 5060, and if linphone uses the > same port the two programs will not function properly. > > The devices themselves should not be a problem I think, since they are opened > only during communication. > > The accounts are not a problem either, as soon as they use different > providers on the three programs. > >>> From memory, with some software, for example, audio and/or video >> recordings, trying to run one, while another is running/paused, can lead >> to an error message such as "device is busy", or "device is in use by >> another application, referring to a soundcard, graphics card, speakers, >> etc. > > Indeed, because that device is opened in one program (which uses it), and the > other one wants to open it too. > > -- > Eugen > An update; in the course of the tests that Greg and I ran, I found that Ekiga and Linphone use the same port number and therefore clash for it, but Skype uses a different port number, and I successfully ran Skype while Ekiga was running, and, inasmuch as we achieved what success that we did achieve with Ekiga (both Greg and I running Ekiga v 3.2.x), it did not make any difference whether Skype was running. I also had successful video calls between me and NZ, apart from the (reasonably) succesful video calls between me and Greg, via Skype, while Ekiga was running. Thus, it appears that Linphone and Ekiga, can not be run concurrently, but Ekiga and Skype can be run concurrently. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From polaris at vfemail.net Sun Feb 24 07:02:03 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:02:03 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file attached (compressed with 7zip.)| Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga didn't shut down correctly. Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, Thanks. ekiga-stderr.txt On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >> Re: open port error message >> >> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could >> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I get a >> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for >> me... > > I would be interested to give me a log > (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) > with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ekiga-stderr.7z Type: application/octet-stream Size: 11946 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 24 20:28:20 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:28:20 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it works)? It is at available at http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: > Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file > attached (compressed with 7zip.)| > Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. > Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga > didn't shut down correctly. > > Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, > Thanks. > > ekiga-stderr.txt > > On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>> Re: open port error message >>> >>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could >>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I get a >>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for >>> me... >> >> I would be interested to give me a log >> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. From polaris at vfemail.net Sun Feb 24 20:47:32 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:47:32 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never work now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only once and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test today"). Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the newer version first? On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it > works)? It is at available at > http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . > > Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? > > On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >> didn't shut down correctly. >> >> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >> Thanks. >> >> ekiga-stderr.txt >> >> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>> Re: open port error message >>>> >>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could >>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I >>>> get a >>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for >>>> me... >>> >>> I would be interested to give me a log >>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>> >>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Sun Feb 24 21:17:03 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:17:03 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: > The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never work > now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only once > and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test today"). > Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) > To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the > newer version first? > > > On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >> works)? It is at available at >> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >> >> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >> >> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>> didn't shut down correctly. >>> >>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>> Thanks. >>> >>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>> >>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>> >>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could >>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I >>>>> get a >>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't work for >>>>> me... >>>> >>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>> >>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. From polaris at vfemail.net Mon Feb 25 00:50:31 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:50:31 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net" in the system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of myself (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call back but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). The only change to the system I can think off, after the original install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. > > On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never work >> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only once >> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test today"). >> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the >> newer version first? >> >> >> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>> works)? It is at available at >>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>> >>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>> >>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>> >>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>> >>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>> >>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>> "Could >>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I >>>>>> get a >>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>> work for >>>>>> me... >>>>> >>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From stuart at gathman.org Tue Feb 26 19:41:34 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart Gathman) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:41:34 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512D0FEE.4040408@gathman.org> I updated Fedora 17, then pulled the new ekiga from updates-testing. Now outgoing audio alternates between 16.0 and 0.0. Normally, it is a steady 8.0. The other side can't hear. Feb 24 18:29:51 Installed: kernel-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686 Feb 24 20:03:08 Updated: ptlib-2.10.10-1.fc17.i686 Feb 24 20:03:11 Updated: opal-3.10.10-1.fc17.i686 Feb 24 20:03:35 Updated: ekiga-4.0.1-1.fc17.i686 I left bad karma - but that may have been premature, because today I downgraded to what *was* the working version (4.0.0 with a custom opal-3.10.9 with patches for some of the fixes). It has the same problem! So I am back to the new 4.0.1, and have to slog through what has changed. Perhaps the kernel upgrade? There were many more updates, but only the kernel seems remotely relevant to ekiga. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 26 20:46:25 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:46:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <512D0FEE.4040408@gathman.org> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> <512D0FEE.4040408@gathman.org> Message-ID: <512D1F21.7040302@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 26/02/13 20:41, Stuart Gathman wrote: > I updated Fedora 17, then pulled the new ekiga from updates-testing. > Now outgoing audio alternates between 16.0 and 0.0. Normally, it is a > steady 8.0. The other side can't hear. > > Feb 24 18:29:51 Installed: kernel-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686 > Feb 24 20:03:08 Updated: ptlib-2.10.10-1.fc17.i686 > Feb 24 20:03:11 Updated: opal-3.10.10-1.fc17.i686 > Feb 24 20:03:35 Updated: ekiga-4.0.1-1.fc17.i686 > > I left bad karma - but that may have been premature, because today I > downgraded to what *was* the working version (4.0.0 with a custom > opal-3.10.9 with patches for some of the fixes). It has the same > problem! So I am back to the new 4.0.1, and have to slog through what > has changed. Perhaps the kernel upgrade? There were many more updates, > but only the kernel seems remotely relevant to ekiga. Send us/me a -d 4 log. -- Eugen From polaris at vfemail.net Tue Feb 26 20:50:23 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:50:23 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> Any luck figuring out my -d 4 logs? On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Polaris wrote: > Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up > Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow > triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net" > in the > system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the > echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of myself > (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call > back but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). > The only change to the system I can think off, after the original > install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. > > http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z > > > > On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. >> >> On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >>> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never work >>> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only once >>> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test today"). >>> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >>> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the >>> newer version first? >>> >>> >>> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>>> works)? It is at available at >>>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>>> >>>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>>> >>>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>>> >>>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>>> "Could >>>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I >>>>>>> get a >>>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>>> work for >>>>>>> me... >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > ------------------------------------------------- VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Tue Feb 26 21:10:31 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:10:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Yes, I noticed where the problem is and think have found when the problem was introduced. I wait for the developer responsible of it to answer... On 26/02/13 21:50, Polaris wrote: > Any luck figuring out my -d 4 logs? > > On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Polaris wrote: >> Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up >> Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow >> triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net" >> in the >> system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the >> echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of myself >> (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call back >> but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). >> The only change to the system I can think off, after the original >> install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. >> >> http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z >> >> >> >> On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. >>> >>> On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >>>> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never work >>>> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only once >>>> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test today"). >>>> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >>>> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the >>>> newer version first? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>>>> works)? It is at available at >>>>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>>>> >>>>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>>>> >>>>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>>>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>>>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port message is >>>>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: In the >>>>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>>>> "Could >>>>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't work, I >>>>>>>> get a >>>>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>>>> work for >>>>>>>> me... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ekiga-list mailing list >>> ekiga-list at gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >>> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net > $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No > bandwidth quotas! > Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > From polaris at vfemail.net Tue Feb 26 21:17:05 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:17:05 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> Thanks Eugen. I wonder how soon the fix will become available. Will it be included in 4.0.2 or earlier? On 2/26/2013 1:10 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Yes, I noticed where the problem is and think have found when the > problem was introduced. I wait for the developer responsible of it to > answer... > > On 26/02/13 21:50, Polaris wrote: >> Any luck figuring out my -d 4 logs? >> >> On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Polaris wrote: >>> Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up >>> Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow >>> triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net" >>> in the >>> system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the >>> echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of myself >>> (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call back >>> but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). >>> The only change to the system I can think off, after the original >>> install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. >>> >>> http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. >>>> >>>> On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >>>>> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never >>>>> work >>>>> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only >>>>> once >>>>> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test >>>>> today"). >>>>> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >>>>> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the >>>>> newer version first? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>>>>> works)? It is at available at >>>>>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>>>>> >>>>>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>>>>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>>>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>>>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>>>>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port >>>>>>>>> message is >>>>>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: >>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>>>>> "Could >>>>>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't >>>>>>>>> work, I >>>>>>>>> get a >>>>>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>>>>> work for >>>>>>>>> me... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ekiga-list mailing list >>>> ekiga-list at gnome.org >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >>>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net >> $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! 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From stuart at gathman.org Tue Feb 26 22:41:54 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart Gathman) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 4.0.1 [STABLE] available In-Reply-To: <512D1F21.7040302@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <512558A2.4070503@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5125B96C.8040104@vfemail.net> <5125BE2E.7070102@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127C261.5020708@vfemail.net> <512D0FEE.4040408@gathman.org> <512D1F21.7040302@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512D3A32.8060201@gathman.org> Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 02/26/2013 03:46 PM, Eugen Dedu would write: > On 26/02/13 20:41, Stuart Gathman wrote: >> I updated Fedora 17, then pulled the new ekiga from updates-testing. >> Now outgoing audio alternates between 16.0 and 0.0. Normally, it is a >> steady 8.0. The other side can't hear. >> >> Feb 24 18:29:51 Installed: kernel-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686 >> Feb 24 20:03:08 Updated: ptlib-2.10.10-1.fc17.i686 >> Feb 24 20:03:11 Updated: opal-3.10.10-1.fc17.i686 >> Feb 24 20:03:35 Updated: ekiga-4.0.1-1.fc17.i686 >> >> I left bad karma - but that may have been premature, because today I >> downgraded to what *was* the working version (4.0.0 with a custom >> opal-3.10.9 with patches for some of the fixes). It has the same >> problem! So I am back to the new 4.0.1, and have to slog through what >> has changed. Perhaps the kernel upgrade? There were many more updates, >> but only the kernel seems remotely relevant to ekiga. > > Send us/me a -d 4 log. > http://gathman.org/data/ekiga.out I called my cell. The audio sounds like what the xmit numbers show - a second of garbled sound, drop out for a second, another second of sound. Then I called 500 at ekiga.net. THIS IS A CLUE: I sing a song. The song is repeated back to me speeded up in half the time, like a 33rpm record played at 78rpm! So I get a second of sped up audio, a second of silence, the next second of sped up audio, another second of silence. Same thing when calling my cell, now that I listen carefully. From stuart at gathman.org Wed Feb 27 04:44:12 2013 From: stuart at gathman.org (Stuart Gathman) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:44:12 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about sharing of physical devices In-Reply-To: References: <51264356.6070200@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512D8F1C.2010202@gathman.org> Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 02/24/2013 12:12 AM, Bret Busby would write: > > > Thus, it appears that Linphone and Ekiga, can not be run concurrently, > but Ekiga and Skype can be run concurrently. > Linphone and Ekiga use the same protocol (SIP). You should be able to use Ekiga with your Linphone account and vice versa. If reality falls short of this, it is because of bugs in one or the other application (or providers). The whole point of SIP is to be able to chose between Ekiga/Blink/Twinkle/XLite/Linphone/etc using any SIP service based on features, price and performance. The only reason Skype doesn't fit is that it uses its own secret protocol (that gives all other Skype users access to your PC), and only works with itself. From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 27 10:52:08 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:52:08 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> It could be fast. It will be in next 4.0.2 release. I can send you an .exe as soon as it is fixed. On 26/02/13 22:17, Polaris wrote: > Thanks Eugen. > I wonder how soon the fix will become available. Will it be included in > 4.0.2 or earlier? > > On 2/26/2013 1:10 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >> Yes, I noticed where the problem is and think have found when the >> problem was introduced. I wait for the developer responsible of it to >> answer... >> >> On 26/02/13 21:50, Polaris wrote: >>> Any luck figuring out my -d 4 logs? >>> >>> On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Polaris wrote: >>>> Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up >>>> Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow >>>> triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to Ekiga.net" >>>> in the >>>> system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the >>>> echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of myself >>>> (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call back >>>> but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). >>>> The only change to the system I can think off, after the original >>>> install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. >>>> >>>> http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. >>>>> >>>>> On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >>>>>> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never >>>>>> work >>>>>> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only >>>>>> once >>>>>> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test >>>>>> today"). >>>>>> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >>>>>> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall of the >>>>>> newer version first? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>>>>>> works)? It is at available at >>>>>>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z file >>>>>>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>>>>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>>>>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that Ekiga >>>>>>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port >>>>>>>>>> message is >>>>>>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: >>>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>>>>>> "Could >>>>>>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't >>>>>>>>>> work, I >>>>>>>>>> get a >>>>>>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>>>>>> work for >>>>>>>>>> me... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>>>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ekiga-list mailing list >>>>> ekiga-list at gnome.org >>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net >>> $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No >>> bandwidth quotas! >>> Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ekiga-list mailing list >>> ekiga-list at gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net > $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No > bandwidth quotas! > Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > From Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr Wed Feb 27 10:52:57 2013 From: Eugen.Dedu at pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr (Eugen Dedu) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:52:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Query about sharing of physical devices In-Reply-To: <512D8F1C.2010202@gathman.org> References: <51264356.6070200@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512D8F1C.2010202@gathman.org> Message-ID: <512DE589.9090005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> On 27/02/13 05:44, Stuart Gathman wrote: > Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 02/24/2013 12:12 AM, Bret Busby > would write: >> >> >> Thus, it appears that Linphone and Ekiga, can not be run concurrently, >> but Ekiga and Skype can be run concurrently. >> > Linphone and Ekiga use the same protocol (SIP). You should be able to > use Ekiga with your Linphone account and vice versa. If reality falls > short of this, it is because of bugs in one or the other application (or > providers). The whole point of SIP is to be able to chose between > Ekiga/Blink/Twinkle/XLite/Linphone/etc using any SIP service based on > features, price and performance. > > The only reason Skype doesn't fit is that it uses its own secret > protocol (that gives all other Skype users access to your PC), and only > works with itself. 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URL: From polaris at vfemail.net Wed Feb 27 21:23:52 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:23:52 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512E7968.9080007@vfemail.net> Awesome, thanks! So does that mean I can get an .exe even before 4.0.2 is released? On 2/27/2013 2:52 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > It could be fast. It will be in next 4.0.2 release. I can send you an > .exe as soon as it is fixed. > > On 26/02/13 22:17, Polaris wrote: >> Thanks Eugen. >> I wonder how soon the fix will become available. Will it be included in >> 4.0.2 or earlier? >> >> On 2/26/2013 1:10 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>> Yes, I noticed where the problem is and think have found when the >>> problem was introduced. I wait for the developer responsible of it to >>> answer... >>> >>> On 26/02/13 21:50, Polaris wrote: >>>> Any luck figuring out my -d 4 logs? >>>> >>>> On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Polaris wrote: >>>>> Just reinstalled 4.0.0 as requested and ran the debug. At start up >>>>> Ekiga behaved as after the original install of 4.0.0: no yellow >>>>> triangle exclamation warning saying: "Could not register to >>>>> Ekiga.net" >>>>> in the >>>>> system tray. But things went differently during tests . During the >>>>> echo test could hear myself but this time there was no video of >>>>> myself >>>>> (just a bouncing ball). And during a call back test, I got a call >>>>> back >>>>> but then the program hung every time (no audio or video). >>>>> The only change to the system I can think off, after the original >>>>> install of Ekiga 4.0.0, was the installation of Skype. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.adrive.com/public/v2mpP8/ekiga-stderr.400.7z >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/24/2013 1:17 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>> Just installing 4.0.0 is sufficient. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24/02/13 21:47, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>> The echo and call back tests always did work with 4.0.0 and never >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> now with 4.0.1 (an actual call to someone else was performed only >>>>>>> once >>>>>>> and did work with problems discussed in the thread "Ekiga test >>>>>>> today"). >>>>>>> Too bad you didn't ask me for this log before I got rid of 4.0.0 :) >>>>>>> To roll back the version (under Win), should I do an uninstall >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> newer version first? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/24/2013 12:28 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>>> Could you install ekiga 4.0.0 and give me the same log (where it >>>>>>>> works)? It is at available at >>>>>>>> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/ekiga/4.0/ . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does it always work with 4.0.0 and always not work with 4.0.1? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24/02/13 08:02, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>>> Ran |ekiga.exe -d 4| as instructed. Look the |ekiga-stderr.7z >>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>> attached (compressed with 7zip.)| >>>>>>>>> Only actions performed were to try an echo and a call back test. >>>>>>>>> Following that tried to exit Ekiga but got an OS message that >>>>>>>>> Ekiga >>>>>>>>> didn't shut down correctly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please advise on the next step once you decipher the debug, >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ekiga-stderr.txt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/23/2013 1:04 AM, Eugen Dedu wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/13 21:45, Polaris wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Re: open port error message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just installed 4.0.1 (over 4.0.0 on WinXP). The old port >>>>>>>>>>> message is >>>>>>>>>>> still there (no big surprise) but now I get another problem: >>>>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>>>>>> system tray I get a yellow triangle exclamation warning saying: >>>>>>>>>>> "Could >>>>>>>>>>> not register to Ekiga.net". Now even the echo test doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> work, I >>>>>>>>>>> get a >>>>>>>>>>> message: "Security check failed". So now Ekiga really doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> work for >>>>>>>>>>> me... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would be interested to give me a log >>>>>>>>>> (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output_2) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> with ekiga 4.0.0 working and 4.0.1 not working. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> ekiga-list mailing list >>>>>> ekiga-list at gnome.org >>>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> VFEmail.net - http://www.vfemail.net >>>> $14.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! 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From polaris at vfemail.net Thu Feb 28 18:16:45 2013 From: polaris at vfemail.net (Polaris) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:16:45 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Email change In-Reply-To: <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> Message-ID: <512F9F0D.2060604@vfemail.net> Wanted to change my contact email on the list and can't login to my list member options... Pretty sure I know my password but it doesn't seem to work... 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From tron at hotbox.ru Thu Feb 28 18:35:10 2013 From: tron at hotbox.ru (Tron) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:35:10 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Email change In-Reply-To: <512FA265.3070007@vfemail.net> References: <511A933A.1050605@vfemail.net> <511AA3DC.2010706@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5120105B.1030304@vfemail.net> <512640B9.5000606@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5127D8F8.2080708@vfemail.net> <5128860F.9070707@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <5129BAEB.7030208@vfemail.net> <512A77E4.2020400@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512A7C64.1050201@vfemail.net> <512A834F.50502@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512AB557.5020005@vfemail.net> <512D200F.4030707@vfemail.net> <512D24C7.50005@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512D2651.2000103@vfemail.net> <512DE558.4070703@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr> <512F9F0D.2060604@vfemail.net> <512FA265.3070007@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <512FA35E.3020308@hotbox.ru> Hmm, just managed to get in. Please disregard the last post. > > On 2/28/2013 10:16 AM, Polaris wrote: >> Wanted to change my contact email on the list and can't login to my >> list member options... >> Pretty sure I know my password but it doesn't seem to work... >> Tried to check with a password reminder - says the reminder email was >> sent but it never arrives! >> What's going on? > From tron at hotbox.ru Thu Feb 28 19:06:32 2013 From: tron at hotbox.ru (Tron) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:06:32 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga crash on laptop Message-ID: <512FAAB8.4050005@hotbox.ru> Behavior: Installed Ekiga on laptop. Ekiga starts normally (giving the same "unable to automatically configure ports" message as my other PC cause all of my boxes are behind the gateway's firewall). But then, any action involving the webcam crashes the program (display images from the camera device, echo test, video preview). Bug trace file enclosed. System: Laptop: Asus Eee PC 1215N Processor: Intel Atom CPU D525 1.80 GHz RAM: 2.00 GB Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 NVIDIA ION Webcam: USB2.0 UVC VGA (built in) OS: Windows 7 Home Premium -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ekiga-stderr.7z Type: application/octet-stream Size: 18281 bytes Desc: not available URL: