From sentor at sentor.de Sat Mar 1 09:49:18 2008 From: sentor at sentor.de (Torsten Senf) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:49:18 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch Message-ID: <20080301094918.GA7035@sentor@sentor.de> Hi, while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian etch system I get the following errors: sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages I get the packages from the following servers deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/debian/ etch main deb http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/debian/ etch main How can I solve the problem?? Thankk you!! sentor From law_ence.dev at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 1 12:03:38 2008 From: law_ence.dev at ntlworld.com (ael) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:03:38 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <20080301094918.GA7035@sentor@sentor.de> References: <20080301094918.GA7035@sentor@sentor.de> Message-ID: <47C9461A.7040203@ntlworld.com> Torsten Senf wrote: > Hi, > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > etch system I get the following errors: > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > > E: Broken packages > > > I get the packages from the following servers > > deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/debian/ etch main > deb http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/debian/ etch main > > > How can I solve the problem?? There is a later version on etch-backports (of ekiga rather than ekiga-snapshot). I had one minor problem with installing it: the configuration assistant, which insisted on running on first installation, hung. That was cured by running as root first which seemed to clear what was perhaps a permissions problem. Thereafter I could run ekiga as a normal user. (Yes, reported to Kilian who did the port.) ael From sentor at sentor.de Sat Mar 1 12:53:19 2008 From: sentor at sentor.de (Torsten Senf) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:53:19 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <47C9461A.7040203@ntlworld.com> References: <47C9461A.7040203@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20080301125319.GA8264@sentor@sentor.de> On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 12:03:38PM +0000, ael wrote: > Torsten Senf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > > etch system I get the following errors: > > > > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > > that package should be filed. > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or > > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > > > > E: Broken packages > > > > > > I get the packages from the following servers > > > > deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/debian/ etch main > > deb http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/debian/ etch main > > > > > > How can I solve the problem?? > > There is a later version on etch-backports (of ekiga rather than > ekiga-snapshot). I had one minor problem with installing it: the > configuration assistant, which insisted on running on first > installation, hung. That was cured by running as root first which seemed > to clear what was perhaps a permissions problem. Thereafter I could run > ekiga as a normal user. (Yes, reported to Kilian who did the port.) > > ael The package is ekiga-gtkonly, but the package is not bugfree now. With these bug the software is not unsable I think. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=ekiga-gtkonly;dist=unstable sentor > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From sentor at sentor.de Sat Mar 1 13:47:29 2008 From: sentor at sentor.de (Torsten Senf) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:47:29 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] philips camera spc525nc green picture Message-ID: <20080301134729.GA10115@sentor@sentor.de> Hi, I use ekiga 2.0.11 from the backports.org on an debian etch system. My camera is an philips spc525nc with an uvcvideo driver. The view program in the driver gives a good picture with the following command: luvcview -f yuv -d /dev/video0 -s 384x288 When I use the camera with with ekiga, I got only a green picture, where I can see my contours but no other colors than green. Is these a problem with the format. The camera can only yuv I think?? Thanks for help sentor From dsandras at seconix.com Sat Mar 1 14:16:38 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:16:38 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <20080301094918.GA7035@sentor@sentor.de> References: <20080301094918.GA7035@sentor@sentor.de> Message-ID: <1204380998.15025.1.camel@scorpion> Hi, Le samedi 01 mars 2008 ? 10:49 +0100, Torsten Senf a ?crit : > Hi, > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > etch system I get the following errors: > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > I have a bad news, those packages are not maintained anymore. Kilian, who was doing an excellent job at maintaining the snapshots packages, as well as the official debian packages, seems to have stopped contributing. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I think you will have to compile by hand. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From sentor at sentor.de Sat Mar 1 13:52:26 2008 From: sentor at sentor.de (Torsten Senf) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:52:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <20080301125319.GA8264@sentor@sentor.de> References: <47C9461A.7040203@ntlworld.com> <20080301125319.GA8264@sentor@sentor.de> Message-ID: <20080301135226.GB6912@sentor@sentor.de> On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:53:19PM +0100, Torsten Senf wrote: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 12:03:38PM +0000, ael wrote: > > Torsten Senf wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > > > etch system I get the following errors: > > > > > > > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > > > > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > > > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > > > that package should be filed. > > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > > > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or > > > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > > > > > > E: Broken packages > > > > > > > > > I get the packages from the following servers > > > > > > deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/debian/ etch main > > > deb http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/debian/ etch main > > > > > > > > > How can I solve the problem?? > > > > There is a later version on etch-backports (of ekiga rather than > > ekiga-snapshot). I had one minor problem with installing it: the > > configuration assistant, which insisted on running on first > > installation, hung. That was cured by running as root first which seemed > > to clear what was perhaps a permissions problem. Thereafter I could run > > ekiga as a normal user. (Yes, reported to Kilian who did the port.) > > > > ael > The package is ekiga-gtkonly, but the package is not bugfree now. With > these bug the software is not unsable I think. > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=ekiga-gtkonly;dist=unstable > > sentor > The ekiga package from the backports works technical correct. Try these not ekiga-gtkonly. sentor From coolrunnings at paradise.net.nz Sat Mar 1 19:36:31 2008 From: coolrunnings at paradise.net.nz (Gary & Maryanne) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:36:31 +1300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <1204380998.15025.1.camel@scorpion> References: <20080301094918.GA7035%sentor@sentor.de> <1204380998.15025.1.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47C9B03F.6090303@paradise.net.nz> take me off your mailing list PLEASE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi, > > Le samedi 01 mars 2008 ? 10:49 +0100, Torsten Senf a ?crit : > >> Hi, >> >> while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian >> etch system I get the following errors: >> >> >> sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree... Done >> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have >> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable >> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created >> or been moved out of Incoming. >> >> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that >> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against >> that package should be filed. >> The following information may help to resolve the situation: >> >> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >> ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or >> libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or >> libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed >> >> > > I have a bad news, those packages are not maintained anymore. 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URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Sat Mar 1 19:46:42 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:46:42 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <47C9B03F.6090303@paradise.net.nz> References: <20080301094918.GA7035%sentor@sentor.de> <1204380998.15025.1.camel@scorpion> <47C9B03F.6090303@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <1204400802.15025.20.camel@scorpion> Dear Gary & Maryanne, Le dimanche 02 mars 2008 ? 08:36 +1300, Gary & Maryanne a ?crit : > take me off your mailing list PLEASE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH There is an unsubscribe link at the end of each e-mail. > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Le samedi 01 mars 2008 ? 10:49 +0100, Torsten Senf a ?crit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > > > etch system I get the following errors: > > > > > > > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree... Done > > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > > > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > > > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > > > or been moved out of Incoming. > > > > > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > > > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > > > that package should be filed. > > > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > > > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > > > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed or > > > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > > > > > > > > > > I have a bad news, those packages are not maintained anymore. Kilian, > > who was doing an excellent job at maintaining the snapshots packages, as > > well as the official debian packages, seems to have stopped > > contributing. > > > > Sorry for the inconvenience, but I think you will have to compile by > > hand. > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From edunagin at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 19:48:02 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:48:02 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Problems with actual debs for etch In-Reply-To: <47C9B03F.6090303@paradise.net.nz> References: <20080301094918.GA7035%sentor@sentor.de> <1204380998.15025.1.camel@scorpion> <47C9B03F.6090303@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <2af451740803011148p9aaa8e3o86d1e243ae5c8817@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Gary & Maryanne wrote: > > take me off your mailing list PLEASE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH LOOK at the bottom of the mailing list and you will find a method of removal from the list. > > > Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi, > > Le samedi 01 mars 2008 ? 10:49 +0100, Torsten Senf a ?crit : > > > Hi, > > while trying to install the the actual snapshots from ekiga on my Debian > etch system I get the following errors: > > > sudo apt-get install ekiga-snapshot > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > ekiga-snapshot: Depends: libpt-cvs (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but > 20070923-02-etch.1 is to be installed or > libpt-cvs-ptrace (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be installed > or > libpt-cvs-develop (= 20070914-02-etch.1) but it is not going to be > installed > > > I have a bad news, those packages are not maintained anymore. Kilian, > who was doing an excellent job at maintaining the snapshots packages, as > well as the official debian packages, seems to have stopped > contributing. > > Sorry for the inconvenience, but I think you will have to compile by > hand. > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From unineurone at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 14:01:04 2008 From: unineurone at gmail.com (unineurone at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:01:04 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online Message-ID: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> Greetings, I have been trying to help a friend in Germany set up Ekiga on Win32, through an "unkown NAT" as reported by the configuration wizard. We have correctly defined port farwarding for TCP/UDP ports 5000-5100, but he still fails to register correctly with ekiga.net (the account & password are fine). We have not defined any SIP proxy, or STUN server whatsoever. The output of -d 4 or -d 5 shows that we get 401/Unauthorized errors... against T-Online's servers. This occurs with either IP translation or "nothing" for NAT in Ekiga. It looks like there is some sort of transparent proxying going on here. Is there a German user around that could help us getting Ekiga up & running, or is this a pure ISP issue ? We have also raised the request with T-Online's support and are awaiting for an answer. Regards, Olivier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shawn_adams at web.de Sun Mar 2 17:57:09 2008 From: shawn_adams at web.de (Shawn Adams) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:57:09 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CAEA75.8020003@web.de> Olivier I live in Germany, and Ekiga with T-Online VOIP does not work terribly well. T-Online says they adhere to all SIP RFCs and standards, but I do not agree or believe this. Using just plain Ekiga.net or other SIP accounts, it works. The druid NAT detect shows "Cone NAT" and recommends a STUN server. stun.ekiga.net works. This works using a netgear 834 router, or a variety of Nortel VPNRs If you need further details, please write direct. Best regards, unineurone at gmail.com wrote: > Greetings, > > I have been trying to help a friend in Germany set up Ekiga on Win32, > through an "unkown NAT" as reported by the configuration wizard. > > We have correctly defined port farwarding for TCP/UDP ports 5000-5100, but > he still fails to register correctly with ekiga.net (the account & password > are fine). We have not defined any SIP proxy, or STUN server whatsoever. > > The output of -d 4 or -d 5 shows that we get 401/Unauthorized errors... > against T-Online's servers. This occurs with either IP translation or > "nothing" for NAT in Ekiga. > > It looks like there is some sort of transparent proxying going on here. > > Is there a German user around that could help us getting Ekiga up & running, > or is this a pure ISP issue ? > > We have also raised the request with T-Online's support and are awaiting for > an answer. > > Regards, > Olivier > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From shawn_adams at web.de Sun Mar 2 23:24:44 2008 From: shawn_adams at web.de (Shawn Adams) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:24:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CB373C.9000405@web.de> Further information for using Ekiga with T-Online VOIP: My setup which registers OK, cannot place a call. Network Settings: NAT settings STUN yes STUN SVR stun.tel.t-online.de SIP settings: outbound proxy: BLANK (default blank) Forward URL: sip: (default) Account: 03222911XXXX (telephone number) tel.t-online.de 03222911XXXX (telephone number) YYYYYYYYYY (password) Advanced: telXXXX (email address associated with the account - @t-online.de is presumed - only enter before the "@" symbol) 3600 When I call: 06966971234 (my own desk number) the pretty T-Online lady tells me "try again later" 2008/03/03 00:13:11.895 2:00.383 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP Sending PDU INVITE sip:06966971234 at tel.t-online.de on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 2008/03/03 00:13:12.016 2:00.505 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP PDU Received SIP/2.0 100 Rufaufbau on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 2008/03/03 00:13:12.022 2:00.511 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP Transaction 2 INVITE proceeding. 2008/03/03 00:13:12.063 2:00.552 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP PDU Received SIP/2.0 200 OK on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 2008/03/03 00:13:12.068 2:00.556 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP Transaction 2 INVITE completed. 2008/03/03 00:13:16.644 2:05.132 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP PDU Received BYE sip:03222911XXXX at 91.34.219.106:5063;transport=udp SIP/2.0 on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 2008/03/03 00:13:16.662 2:05.151 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP BYE received for call aad40ae5-1be7-dc11-9d0c-00a0cc3b74f0 at tau Now this might be t-online trying to force everyone to use their windoze XP client (in fact their own client that works with win2k no longer works), or it might be their misguided RFC interpretation. But it does work with clients "twinkle" and XTEN xlite. Hope this helps. Best regards, unineurone at gmail.com wrote: > Greetings, > > I have been trying to help a friend in Germany set up Ekiga on Win32, > through an "unkown NAT" as reported by the configuration wizard. > > We have correctly defined port farwarding for TCP/UDP ports > 5000-5100, but he still fails to register correctly with ekiga.net > (the account & password are fine). We have not defined any SIP proxy, > or STUN server whatsoever. > > The output of -d 4 or -d 5 shows that we get 401/Unauthorized > errors... against T-Online's servers. This occurs with either IP > translation or "nothing" for NAT in Ekiga. > > It looks like there is some sort of transparent proxying going on > here. > > Is there a German user around that could help us getting Ekiga up & > running, or is this a pure ISP issue ? > > We have also raised the request with T-Online's support and are > awaiting for an answer. > > Regards, Olivier > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ ekiga-list mailing > list ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 3 08:51:47 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <47CB373C.9000405@web.de> References: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> <47CB373C.9000405@web.de> Message-ID: <1204534307.4080.0.camel@scorpion> Hello, Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 00:24 +0100, Shawn Adams a ?crit : > Further information for using Ekiga with T-Online VOIP: > > My setup which registers OK, cannot place a call. > > Network Settings: > NAT settings > STUN yes > STUN SVR stun.tel.t-online.de > > SIP settings: > outbound proxy: BLANK (default blank) > Forward URL: sip: (default) > > Account: > 03222911XXXX (telephone number) > tel.t-online.de > 03222911XXXX (telephone number) > YYYYYYYYYY (password) > > Advanced: > telXXXX (email address associated with the account - @t-online.de is > presumed - only enter before the "@" symbol) > > 3600 > > > When I call: > > 06966971234 (my own desk number) > > the pretty T-Online lady tells me "try again later" > > > 2008/03/03 00:13:11.895 2:00.383 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP > Sending PDU INVITE sip:06966971234 at tel.t-online.de on > udp$62.225.244.122:5060 > > 2008/03/03 00:13:12.016 2:00.505 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP > PDU Received SIP/2.0 100 Rufaufbau on > udp$62.225.244.122:5060 > 2008/03/03 00:13:12.022 2:00.511 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP > Transaction 2 INVITE proceeding. > > 2008/03/03 00:13:12.063 2:00.552 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP > PDU Received SIP/2.0 200 OK on > udp$62.225.244.122:5060 > 2008/03/03 00:13:12.068 2:00.556 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP > Transaction 2 INVITE completed. > > 2008/03/03 00:13:16.644 2:05.132 SIP Transport:85ec320 SIP > PDU Received BYE sip:03222911XXXX at 91.34.219.106:5063;transport=udp > SIP/2.0 on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 > > 2008/03/03 00:13:16.662 2:05.151 SIP Handler:85fb5e8 SIP > BYE received for call aad40ae5-1be7-dc11-9d0c-00a0cc3b74f0 at tau > Can you provide us a full -d 4 output ? That looks weird. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jarkas at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 10:09:29 2008 From: jarkas at gmail.com (Bassem JARKAS) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:09:29 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> hi all, when i'm trying to launch ekiga, it give me this error : "Registration failed: Timeout" i have ekiga 2.0.11 on ubuntu 7.10, and this is the output of -d 4 bassem at bassem-desktop:~$ ekiga -d 4 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga Detected audio plugins: ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga Detected video plugins: Picture,V4L2,V4L 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga Detected audio plugins: ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga Detected video plugins: Picture,V4L2,V4L 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following audio input devices: Default,VIA 8237 with plugin ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following audio output devices: Default,VIA 8237 with plugin ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following video input devices: No device found with plugin V4L 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following audio input devices: Default,VIA 8237 with plugin ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following audio output devices: Default,VIA 8237 with plugin ALSA 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga Detected the following video input devices: No device found with plugin V4L 2008/03/02 11:55:47.300 0:02.053 ekiga Ekiga version 2.0.11 2008/03/02 11:55:47.301 0:02.054 ekiga OPAL version 2.2.11 2008/03/02 11:55:47.302 0:02.055 ekiga PWLIB version 1.10.10 2008/03/02 11:55:47.302 0:02.055 ekiga GNOME support enabled 2008/03/02 11:55:47.303 0:02.056 ekiga Fullscreen support enabled 2008/03/02 11:55:47.304 0:02.057 ekiga DBUS support enabled 2008/03/02 11:55:47.310 0:02.069 ekiga Set TCP port range to 30000:30010 2008/03/02 11:55:47.316 0:02.069 ekiga Set RTP port range to 5000:5059 2008/03/02 11:55:47.317 0:02.070 ekiga Set UDP port range to 5060:5100 2008/03/02 11:55:47.709 0:02.462 ekiga AVAHI Adding service bassem JARKAS -- Bassem JARKAS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 3 10:52:54 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> Hi, Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 12:09 +0200, Bassem JARKAS a ?crit : > hi all, > when i'm trying to launch ekiga, it give me this error : "Registration > failed: Timeout" > i have ekiga 2.0.11 on ubuntu 7.10, and this is the output of -d 4 > > bassem at bassem-desktop:~$ ekiga -d 4 > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga > Detected audio plugins: ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga > Detected video plugins: Picture,V4L2,V4L > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga > Detected audio plugins: ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.357 0:01.110 ekiga > Detected video plugins: Picture,V4L2,V4L > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following audio input devices: Default,VIA 8237 with > plugin ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following audio output devices: Default,VIA 8237 with > plugin ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following video input devices: No device found with > plugin V4L > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following audio input devices: Default,VIA 8237 with > plugin ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following audio output devices: Default,VIA 8237 with > plugin ALSA > 2008/03/02 11:55:46.427 0:01.180 ekiga > Detected the following video input devices: No device found with > plugin V4L > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.300 0:02.053 ekiga Ekiga > version 2.0.11 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.301 0:02.054 ekiga OPAL > version 2.2.11 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.302 0:02.055 ekiga PWLIB > version 1.10.10 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.302 0:02.055 ekiga GNOME > support enabled > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.303 0:02.056 ekiga > Fullscreen support enabled > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.304 0:02.057 ekiga DBUS > support enabled > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.310 0:02.069 ekiga Set > TCP port range to 30000:30010 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.316 0:02.069 ekiga Set > RTP port range to 5000:5059 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.317 0:02.070 ekiga Set > UDP port range to 5060:5100 > 2008/03/02 11:55:47.709 0:02.462 ekiga AVAHI > Adding service bassem JARKAS This -d 4 output is basically empty. You need to install a ptrace package in order to get full debugging output. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jarkas at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 11:26:48 2008 From: jarkas at gmail.com (Bassem JARKAS) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:26:48 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <3e5345530803030326p44eaafd7ma219e16f7d5f1c8@mail.gmail.com> ok this is the log: http://pastebin.ca/925885 thanks > > > > This -d 4 output is basically empty. You need to install a ptrace > package in order to get full debugging output. > > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : > http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- / ) / _)assem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From unineurone at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 11:48:54 2008 From: unineurone at gmail.com (unineurone at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:48:54 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online Message-ID: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> >>My setup which registers OK, cannot place a call. >Network Settings: >NAT settings > STUN yes > STUN SVR stun.tel.t-online.de > >SIP settings: > outbound proxy: BLANK (default blank) > Forward URL: sip: (default) >Account: > 03222911XXXX (telephone number) > tel.t-online.de > 03222911XXXX (telephone number) > YYYYYYYYYY (password) >Advanced: > telXXXX (email address associated with the account - @t-online.de is >presumed - only enter before the "@" symbol) > 3600 Thats our issue... As far as I know, he hasn't subscribed for T-Com/T-Online's VOIP service. We have either IP Translation, or nothing for network settings, no stun server or proxy. For the account, we have an @ekiga.net user, which works (tried from my side, and I get connected). Here's an excerpt of a -d 4 session: 2008/03/02 12:10:03.093 0:05.251 Opal Listener:3974b98 Listen Started listening thread on tcp$192.168.2.100:1720 2008/03/02 12:10:03.093 0:05.251 Opal Listener:3974b98 Listen Waiting on socket accept on tcp$192.168.2.100:1720 2008/03/02 12:10:03.203 0:05.360 Opal Listener:39750f0 Listen Started listening thread on udp$192.168.2.100:5060 2008/03/02 12:10:03.203 0:05.360 Opal Listener:39750f0 Listen Waiting on UDP packet on udp$192.168.2.100:5060 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.392 Opal Listener:39750f0 OpalUDP Pre-bound to interface: 192.168.2.100:5060 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.393 Opal Listener:39750f0 SIP Waiting for PDU on udp$0.0.0.0 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.393 Opal Listener:39750f0 SIP PDU Received on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized CSeq: 541 REGISTER Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.2.100:5060;received=192.168.2.100;branch=z9hG4bKfe761a4434911d9be5dc7d3c56a759a2-14088588 From: ;tag=617263616479616E-1919468571-a8347dea-858167570 Call-ID: EAFA-5F30-00428482-BA5260D7BF74-0001 at 217.233.78.31 To: ;tag=5652ecc6 Content-Length: 0 WWW-Authenticate: Digest algorithm=MD5, nonce="b629444af1e3cf48a71703e908517b6d24f502d66a847b032705f1f1f5fffc1a", opaque="b629444af1e3cf48a71703e908517b6d24f502d66a847b032705f1f1f5fffc1a", realm="tel.t-online.de" Where did t-online.de come from ??? Here's a snippet of an earlier session: 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.844 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Error writing to server 0.0.0.0:3478 - WIN32 error 10049 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.845 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Server 0.0.0.0:3478 unexpectedly went offline. 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.845 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 OPAL STUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Unknown NAT, external IP 0.0.0.0 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.847 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Error writing to server 0.0.0.0:3478 - WIN32 error 10049 ... 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.034 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 OpalUDP Binding to interface: 192.168.2.100:3855 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.034 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Created transport udp$0.0.0.0 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Could not find host : "ekiga.net" 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Could not connect to udp$ekiga.net:5060 - 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Transport clean up on termination 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 OpalUDP Close 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Transport Close 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Unable to create transport for registrar 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.768 Opal Listener:3bd7540 OpalUDP Pre-bound to interface: 192.168.2.100:5060 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.769 Opal Listener:3bd7540 SIP Waiting for PDU on udp$0.0.0.0 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.769 Opal Listener:3bd7540 SIP PDU Received on udp$217.0.132.118:5060 SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized CSeq: 492 REGISTER Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 217.233.78.31:5060;received=217.233.78.31;branch=z9hG4bK6c4154930df06d7486c7e8c47ac8bc84 From: ;tag=617263616479616E-1919468571-a8347dea-858167570 Call-ID: EAFA-5F30-00428482-BA5260D7BF74-0001 at 217.233.78.31 To: ;tag=5005a17b Content-Length: 0 WWW-Authenticate: Digest algorithm=MD5, nonce="42534f9f0599375a5e7ab94005f920af7757d217c644f5be594b218eba6e710a", opaque="42534f9f0599375a5e7ab94005f920af7757d217c644f5be594b218eba6e710a", realm="tel.t-online.de" Any ideas as to where I could try to look ? -- Olivier From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 3 12:13:25 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:13:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <3e5345530803030326p44eaafd7ma219e16f7d5f1c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> <3e5345530803030326p44eaafd7ma219e16f7d5f1c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1204546405.4080.22.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 13:26 +0200, Bassem JARKAS a ?crit : > ok this is the log: > http://pastebin.ca/925885 The REGISTER is sent to ekiga.net, but you never recieve any answer. So something on the path between you and the registrar eats the answer. I would think your router is the culprit. Make sure it does not natively supports SIP, in which case it could be buggy. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From edunagin at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 17:36:42 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:36:42 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Good working system Message-ID: <2af451740803030936h432db05dxdd5e743bae003756@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, and D, I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.1 on a P4 with 1G ram and 122G hard drive. I can now report two successful tests of both audio and video from Montana USA to UK and Georgia USA. So all is working fine and thanks to the Developers and Maintainers for this Program. If I can be of help to anyone, please contact me on the list or on my SIP. Peace................................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From zbinwu at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 20:12:45 2008 From: zbinwu at gmail.com (Zhibin Wu) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:12:45 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 3-way calling in Ekiga Message-ID: <5f17261c0803031212k57d3731eu15dbbbaff69d2ba@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Does anyone know how to set-up 3-way calling or conference call with Ekiga? From sevmek at free.fr Mon Mar 3 20:31:16 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:31:16 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 3-way calling in Ekiga In-Reply-To: <5f17261c0803031212k57d3731eu15dbbbaff69d2ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f17261c0803031212k57d3731eu15dbbbaff69d2ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1204576276.24288.13.camel@achille> Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 15:12 -0500, Zhibin Wu a ?crit : > Hi, > Does anyone know how to set-up 3-way calling or conference call with Ekiga? Hi, You can use Ekiga.net for that: e.g. calling sip:501 at ekiga.net more infos here: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers#Ekiga.net_numbers Regards, Yannick > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Mon Mar 3 20:46:30 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (ALPHONSO Fabrice) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:46:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] 3-way calling in Ekiga In-Reply-To: <5f17261c0803031212k57d3731eu15dbbbaff69d2ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f17261c0803031212k57d3731eu15dbbbaff69d2ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <54269.82.240.121.32.1204577190.squirrel@alphonso.dyndns.org> Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 15:12 -0500, Zhibin Wu a ?crit : > Hi, Hi, > Does anyone know how to set-up 3-way calling or conference call with Ekiga? The only way i know for now, is to connect ekiga to some third-party components like some Polycom MCU or to install and use openmcu from the free community. Hope that helps, Fabrice From shawn_adams at web.de Mon Mar 3 21:36:34 2008 From: shawn_adams at web.de (Shawn Adams) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:36:34 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> Perhaps I added confusion. If your friend uses T-Online as an ISP, and wants to use Ekiga to do SIP with an ekiga.net account, this should work, for me - the connection requires STUN. So forget using T-Online VOIP, they just happen to be the ISP in this case. should work fine. here is my setup: account ekiga.net registrar ekiga.net user field64 password XXXXXXX auth login field64 reg. timeout 3600 Preferences Network listen on eth0 192.168.17.20 Nat traversal STUN STUN Server stun.ekiga.net SIP settings outbound proxy BLANK forward ULR sip: (default) send DTMF rfc2833 (default) call 500 at ekiga.net, it works. I can also disable STUN and use "Ip translation". I have 3 different routers, two have SIP AGLs, which means it keeps track of SIP sessions to PCs on the private side. the 3rd is a netgear, I've configured the following NAT ports to my PC: probably very similar to all home ADSL routers) 1 tonline_voip ALLOW always 192.168.17.20 Any Always 2 stun ALLOW always 192.168.17.20 Any Always 3 IP ALLOW always 192.168.17.20 Any Always Default Yes Any BLOCK always Any Any Never Service Table # Service Type Ports 1 SIP (TCP/UDP) 5060 - 5070 2 stun (TCP/UDP) 3478 - 3479 3 tonline_voip (TCP) 30000 - 30005 I'm no ekiga expert, but this certainly sounds like a router issue, or you need STUN. > Here's an excerpt of a -d 4 session: > 2008/03/02 12:10:03.093 0:05.251 Opal > Listener:3974b98 Listen Started listening thread on > tcp$192.168.2.100:1720 > 2008/03/02 12:10:03.093 0:05.251 Opal > Listener:3974b98 Listen Waiting on socket accept on > tcp$192.168.2.100:1720 > 2008/03/02 12:10:03.203 0:05.360 Opal > Listener:39750f0 Listen Started listening thread on > udp$192.168.2.100:5060 > 2008/03/02 12:10:03.203 0:05.360 Opal > Listener:39750f0 Listen Waiting on UDP packet on > udp$192.168.2.100:5060 > 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.392 Opal > Listener:39750f0 OpalUDP Pre-bound to interface: 192.168.2.100:5060 > 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.393 Opal Listener:39750f0 SIP Waiting > for PDU on udp$0.0.0.0 > 2008/03/02 12:10:07.234 0:09.393 Opal Listener:39750f0 SIP PDU > Received on udp$62.225.244.122:5060 > SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized > CSeq: 541 REGISTER > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP > 192.168.2.100:5060;received=192.168.2.100;branch=z9hG4bKfe761a4434911d9be5dc7d3c56a759a2-14088588 > From: ;tag=617263616479616E-1919468571-a8347dea-858167570 > Call-ID: EAFA-5F30-00428482-BA5260D7BF74-0001 at 217.233.78.31 > To: ;tag=5652ecc6 > Content-Length: 0 > WWW-Authenticate: Digest algorithm=MD5, > nonce="b629444af1e3cf48a71703e908517b6d24f502d66a847b032705f1f1f5fffc1a", > opaque="b629444af1e3cf48a71703e908517b6d24f502d66a847b032705f1f1f5fffc1a", > realm="tel.t-online.de" > > > Where did t-online.de come from ??? > > > > Here's a snippet of an earlier session: > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.844 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Error > writing to server 0.0.0.0:3478 - WIN32 error 10049 > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.845 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Server > 0.0.0.0:3478 unexpectedly went offline. > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.845 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 OPAL STUN > server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Unknown NAT, external IP 0.0.0.0 > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.109 0:01.847 GMStunClient:03b4efc0 STUN Error > writing to server 0.0.0.0:3478 - WIN32 error 10049 > ... > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 > 0:02.034 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 OpalUDP Binding to interface: > 192.168.2.100:3855 > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.034 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Created > transport udp$0.0.0.0 > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Could > not find host : "ekiga.net" > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Could > not connect to udp$ekiga.net:5060 - > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 > 0:02.035 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Transport clean up on > termination > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 OpalUDP Close > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 Opal Transport Close > 2008/03/02 10:52:10.296 0:02.036 GMAccounts...t:03be13a8 SIP Unable > to create transport for registrar > 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.768 Opal > Listener:3bd7540 OpalUDP Pre-bound to interface: 192.168.2.100:5060 > 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.769 Opal Listener:3bd7540 SIP Waiting > for PDU on udp$0.0.0.0 > 2008/03/02 10:52:18.031 0:09.769 Opal Listener:3bd7540 SIP PDU > Received on udp$217.0.132.118:5060 > SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized > CSeq: 492 REGISTER > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP > 217.233.78.31:5060;received=217.233.78.31;branch=z9hG4bK6c4154930df06d7486c7e8c47ac8bc84 > From: ;tag=617263616479616E-1919468571-a8347dea-858167570 > Call-ID: EAFA-5F30-00428482-BA5260D7BF74-0001 at 217.233.78.31 > To: ;tag=5005a17b > Content-Length: 0 > WWW-Authenticate: Digest algorithm=MD5, > nonce="42534f9f0599375a5e7ab94005f920af7757d217c644f5be594b218eba6e710a", > opaque="42534f9f0599375a5e7ab94005f920af7757d217c644f5be594b218eba6e710a", > realm="tel.t-online.de" > > Any ideas as to where I could try to look ? > From unineurone at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 22:57:11 2008 From: unineurone at gmail.com (unineurone at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:57:11 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> Message-ID: <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/3, Shawn Adams : > > If your friend uses T-Online as an ISP, and wants to use Ekiga to do SIP > with an ekiga.net account, this should work, for me - the connection > requires STUN. <...> > I can also disable STUN and use "Ip translation". I have 3 different > routers, two have SIP AGLs, which means it keeps track of SIP sessions > to PCs on the private side. > > the 3rd is a netgear, I've configured the following NAT ports to my PC: > probably very similar to all home ADSL routers) <...> > Service Table > # Service Type Ports > 1 SIP (TCP/UDP) 5060 - 5070 > 2 stun (TCP/UDP) 3478 - 3479 > 3 tonline_voip (TCP) 30000 - 30005 Is forwarding the STUN ports required ? In my setup, behind a cable modem -> WRT54G <-> WAP54g (flashed with dd-wrt, setup as a listener client),so I have 2 subnets internaly, both NATing, and stun gets through without any port forwarding. > I'm no ekiga expert, but this certainly sounds like a router issue, or > you need STUN. Looks like it. He's with T-Online's Speedport W502V. It connects to traditional landlines & allows "DSL_Telephonie". The other possibility is a transparent proxy on SIP ports to force usage of there servers, and thus their own SIP service. Does this sound plausible ? I'll get him to install VNC and go have a look... Thanks for the help ! -- Olivier From shawn_adams at web.de Mon Mar 3 23:13:05 2008 From: shawn_adams at web.de (Shawn Adams) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:13:05 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CC8601.2020306@web.de> > Looks like it. He's with T-Online's Speedport W502V. It connects to > traditional landlines & allows "DSL_Telephonie". The other possibility > is a transparent proxy on SIP ports to force usage of there servers, > and thus their own SIP service. Does this sound plausible Yes, the Speedport 502 presumes you have an analog telephone attached to a POTS port, and you can configure this "special" device just for T-Online VOIP. possibly interferes with normal SIP operations. might be a way around it. Best regards, PS - not sure I need the STUN forwarding, probably not. unineurone at gmail.com wrote: > 2008/3/3, Shawn Adams : >> If your friend uses T-Online as an ISP, and wants to use Ekiga to do SIP >> with an ekiga.net account, this should work, for me - the connection >> requires STUN. > <...> >> I can also disable STUN and use "Ip translation". I have 3 different >> routers, two have SIP AGLs, which means it keeps track of SIP sessions >> to PCs on the private side. >> >> the 3rd is a netgear, I've configured the following NAT ports to my PC: >> probably very similar to all home ADSL routers) > <...> >> Service Table >> # Service Type Ports >> 1 SIP (TCP/UDP) 5060 - 5070 >> 2 stun (TCP/UDP) 3478 - 3479 >> 3 tonline_voip (TCP) 30000 - 30005 > > Is forwarding the STUN ports required ? In my setup, behind a cable > modem -> WRT54G <-> WAP54g (flashed with dd-wrt, setup as a listener > client),so I have 2 subnets internaly, both NATing, and stun gets > through without any port forwarding. > > >> I'm no ekiga expert, but this certainly sounds like a router issue, or >> you need STUN. > > Looks like it. He's with T-Online's Speedport W502V. It connects to > traditional landlines & allows "DSL_Telephonie". The other possibility > is a transparent proxy on SIP ports to force usage of there servers, > and thus their own SIP service. Does this sound plausible ? > > I'll get him to install VNC and go have a look... > > Thanks for the help ! From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 23:23:06 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:23:06 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk Message-ID: Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. From sip debug you can see the ekiga server has the external address, but that's not enough: <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy From: ;tag=as64618445 To: ;tag=12d18c5009a2de32fca8ae9d70ad0321.ef55 Call-ID: 231a1bdf50d8889f7dd0890717958f7e at 127.0.0.1 CSeq: 113 REGISTER Server: Sip EXpress router (0.9.6 (i386/linux)) Content-Length: 0 Warning: 392 86.64.162.35:5060 "Noisy feedback tells: pid=24578 req_src_ip=96.xxx.253.yy req_src_port=5060 in_uri=sip:ekiga.net out_uri=sip:ekiga.net via_cnt==1" <-------------> --- (9 headers 0 lines) --- -- Got SIP response 406 "Not Acceptable" back from 86.64.162.35 In any event, the magic stanzas for sip.conf would be appreciated. sean From unineurone at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 23:25:52 2008 From: unineurone at gmail.com (unineurone at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:25:52 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <47CC8601.2020306@web.de> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> <47CC8601.2020306@web.de> Message-ID: <5a2e13d30803031525i7f375353i2bf623b5104cb261@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/4, Shawn Adams : > > Looks like it. He's with T-Online's Speedport W502V. It connects to > > traditional landlines & allows "DSL_Telephonie". The other possibility > > is a transparent proxy on SIP ports to force usage of there servers, > > and thus their own SIP service. Does this sound plausible > > > Yes, the Speedport 502 presumes you have an analog telephone attached to > a POTS port, and you can configure this "special" device just for > T-Online VOIP. possibly interferes with normal SIP operations. > > might be a way around it. > OK. I'll try to better understand the router's user guide (my German is really rusty...) & see if I can disable this device. He indeed has 2 analog phones connected to the 2 availble POTS ports., and did have to enter something related to what _could_ be a SIP number. Thanks again ! -- Olivier From damailings at mcbf.net Mon Mar 3 23:30:13 2008 From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:30:13 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <5a2e13d30803031525i7f375353i2bf623b5104cb261@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> <47CC8601.2020306@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031525i7f375353i2bf623b5104cb261@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472d4b250803031530w38fdc7b2o3758f8b40b3fcc9e@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:25 PM, wrote: > 2008/3/4, Shawn Adams : > > > > Looks like it. He's with T-Online's Speedport W502V. It connects to > > > traditional landlines & allows "DSL_Telephonie". The other possibility > > > is a transparent proxy on SIP ports to force usage of there servers, > > > and thus their own SIP service. Does this sound plausible > > > > > > Yes, the Speedport 502 presumes you have an analog telephone attached to > > a POTS port, and you can configure this "special" device just for > > T-Online VOIP. possibly interferes with normal SIP operations. > > > > might be a way around it. > > > > OK. I'll try to better understand the router's user guide (my German > is really rusty...) & see if I can disable this device. He indeed has > 2 analog phones connected to the 2 availble POTS ports., and did have > to enter something related to what _could_ be a SIP number. If he has analog phones connected to the device that he wishes to use, are you sure then that you want to disable that functionality? :-) Also, if you're unsure about something in the manual, send a link and I can have a second look at it (I am German). ~David From unineurone at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 23:58:11 2008 From: unineurone at gmail.com (unineurone at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:58:11 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <472d4b250803031530w38fdc7b2o3758f8b40b3fcc9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a2e13d30803030348q6a87d844s1a554f977013f2e6@mail.gmail.com> <47CC6F62.4010604@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031457y510ff5abxb74b86fde282c367@mail.gmail.com> <47CC8601.2020306@web.de> <5a2e13d30803031525i7f375353i2bf623b5104cb261@mail.gmail.com> <472d4b250803031530w38fdc7b2o3758f8b40b3fcc9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a2e13d30803031558p604db93blfc823c8590627363@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/4, David Mohr : > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:25 PM, wrote: <...> > > OK. I'll try to better understand the router's user guide (my German > > is really rusty...) & see if I can disable this device. He indeed has > > 2 analog phones connected to the 2 availble POTS ports., and did have > > to enter something related to what _could_ be a SIP number. > > > If he has analog phones connected to the device that he wishes to use, > are you sure then that you want to disable that functionality? :-) > AFAIK, he hasn't subscribed to T-Online's VOIP service... so I wonder if the functionality actually works. I'm wondering if the thing can be configured to _not_ bridge analog & "DSL_Telephonie". That's what's unclear. It seems possible, but he may lose some functionality it seems (Caller ID/Name ?) > Also, if you're unsure about something in the manual, send a link and > I can have a second look at it (I am German). Here goes: http://www.t-home.de/dlp/eki/downloads/Speedport/Speedport_w502v_type_a/bedanl_speedport_w502v_a_08.2007.pdf I think the interesting parts are page 33, 47, 93 Thanks, maybe we should take this off list ? -- Olivier From sevmek at free.fr Tue Mar 4 01:51:30 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:51:30 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1204595490.24288.15.camel@achille> hi, Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 18:23 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : > Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, > nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Connecting_Asterisk_to_ekiga.net > From sip debug you can see the ekiga server has the external address, > but that's not enough: > > > <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> > SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP > 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy > From: ;tag=as64618445 > To: ;tag=12d18c5009a2de32fca8ae9d70ad0321.ef55 > Call-ID: 231a1bdf50d8889f7dd0890717958f7e at 127.0.0.1 > CSeq: 113 REGISTER > Server: Sip EXpress router (0.9.6 (i386/linux)) > Content-Length: 0 > Warning: 392 86.64.162.35:5060 "Noisy feedback tells: pid=24578 > req_src_ip=96.xxx.253.yy req_src_port=5060 in_uri=sip:ekiga.net > out_uri=sip:ekiga.net via_cnt==1" > > > <-------------> > --- (9 headers 0 lines) --- > -- Got SIP response 406 "Not Acceptable" back from 86.64.162.35 > > In any event, the magic stanzas for sip.conf would be appreciated. > > sean > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From jarkas at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 09:12:35 2008 From: jarkas at gmail.com (Bassem JARKAS) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:12:35 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <1204546405.4080.22.camel@scorpion> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> <3e5345530803030326p44eaafd7ma219e16f7d5f1c8@mail.gmail.com> <1204546405.4080.22.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <3e5345530803040112s10dd34fl77452409013ae2a3@mail.gmail.com> it seems that the firewall of the ISP block SIP ports, i tried to change the listen port of ekiga, but it gives the same resaults. can we change the port of the SIP server ?!! On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > The REGISTER is sent to ekiga.net, but you never recieve any answer. So > something on the path between you and the registrar eats the answer. > > I would think your router is the culprit. Make sure it does not natively > supports SIP, in which case it could be buggy. > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : > http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- / ) / _)assem -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 4 09:19:49 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:19:49 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 18:23 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : > Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, > nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. > > From sip debug you can see the ekiga server has the external address, > but that's not enough: > > > <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> > SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable It means your Asterisk tries registering a private IP address to ekiga.net. Most probably you have a broken NAT router that replaces public IP addresses in SIP PDUs by private ones. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 4 09:20:52 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:20:52 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Registration failed: Timeout In-Reply-To: <3e5345530803040112s10dd34fl77452409013ae2a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e5345530803020204j46d75769m9fbc39ae2625603b@mail.gmail.com> <3e5345530803030209u11b402d6gd1f65c61d3a7d474@mail.gmail.com> <1204541574.4080.17.camel@scorpion> <3e5345530803030326p44eaafd7ma219e16f7d5f1c8@mail.gmail.com> <1204546405.4080.22.camel@scorpion> <3e5345530803040112s10dd34fl77452409013ae2a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1204622452.4274.10.camel@scorpion> Le mardi 04 mars 2008 ? 11:12 +0200, Bassem JARKAS a ?crit : > it seems that the firewall of the ISP block SIP ports, i tried to > change the listen port of ekiga, but it gives the same resaults. > can we change the port of the SIP server ?!! Unfortunately not, it would affect all other users but you :-) -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 4 09:24:07 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:24:07 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <47CC736B.90307@web.de> References: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> <47CB373C.9000405@web.de> <1204534307.4080.0.camel@scorpion> <47CC736B.90307@web.de> Message-ID: <1204622647.4274.13.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 22:53 +0100, Shawn Adams a ?crit : > Damien, > > Attached the "-d 4" debug. > > This is an SIP call using T-Online's great VOIP SIP service. > > note that when disconnecting most of these calls, ekiga crashes. > Presume this is not relevant. > > odd thing - twinkle and XTEN xlite work. > > And technical support from T-Online is useless, I might try to get an > inside contact via colleagues who work for T-systems. > > If you ever have time to look through, or need further info, please > advise. I'd love to know what these guys are doing that is not exactly RFC. > > Best regards, > It registers correctly. It calls correctly. But after 3 seconds, you receive a request to hangup from t-online. I do not know why, only them can tell. What I would do is trying to disable many codecs and disabling video. Perhaps it triggers a bug on their side... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 14:32:52 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> References: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 18:23 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : >> Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, >> nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. >> >> From sip debug you can see the ekiga server has the external address, >> but that's not enough: >> >> >> <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> >> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable > > It means your Asterisk tries registering a private IP address to > ekiga.net. > > Most probably you have a broken NAT router that replaces public IP > addresses in SIP PDUs by private ones. Here's what ekiga.net says it received: <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy ............. so it knows both the public and the private. Does ekiga require both addresses to be public? If so, anybody know how to force asterisk to do this? sean From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 14:34:36 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: <1204595490.24288.15.camel@achille> References: <1204595490.24288.15.camel@achille> Message-ID: yannick wrote: > hi, > > Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 18:23 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : >> Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, >> nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. >> > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Connecting_Asterisk_to_ekiga.net > Sadly, that only deals with asterisk on a public - non-NAT'd - box. No help for dealing with NAT issues. sean From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 4 14:42:48 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:42:48 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: References: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1204641768.3945.4.camel@scorpion> Le mardi 04 mars 2008 ? 09:32 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 18:23 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : > >> Anybody have a sip.conf that works with ekiga.net? I've set externip, > >> nat = yes, stunaddr = stun.exiga.net, etc. Registration with fwd works. > >> > >> From sip debug you can see the ekiga server has the external address, > >> but that's not enough: > >> > >> > >> <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> > >> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable > > > > It means your Asterisk tries registering a private IP address to > > ekiga.net. > > > > Most probably you have a broken NAT router that replaces public IP > > addresses in SIP PDUs by private ones. > Here's what ekiga.net says it received: > <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> > SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable > Via: SIP/2.0/UDP > 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy > ............. > > so it knows both the public and the private. Does ekiga require both > addresses to be public? If so, anybody know how to force asterisk to do > this? No, you misunderstood. Ekiga sees it receives a packet from Ekiga.net (86.64.162.35). That packet is the answer from ekiga.net, which contains portions of the original request, which in turn contains only private IP addresses, which is wrong. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 16:35:09 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:35:09 -0500 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: <1204641768.3945.4.camel@scorpion> References: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> <1204641768.3945.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: Damien Sandras wrote: ............ >> Here's what ekiga.net says it received: >> <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> >> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable >> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP >> 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy >> ............. >> >> so it knows both the public and the private. Does ekiga require both >> addresses to be public? If so, anybody know how to force asterisk to do >> this? > > No, you misunderstood. > Ekiga sees it receives a packet from Ekiga.net (86.64.162.35). > That packet is the answer from ekiga.net, which contains portions of the > original request, which in turn contains only private IP addresses, > which is wrong. I must be slow here, but if I turn on sip debug in asterisk it shows: REGISTER 12 headers, 0 lines Reliably Transmitting (NAT) to 86.64.162.35:5060: REGISTER sip:ekiga.net SIP/2.0 Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK0d4fbf8a;rport Max-Forwards: 70 From: ;tag=as258f78ca To: Call-ID: 5e4b9d1927894a7d654dc5897f8c05ef at 127.0.0.1 CSeq: 103 REGISTER User-Agent: Asterisk PBX 1.6.0-beta4 Expires: 120 Contact: Event: registration Content-Length: 0 --- <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK0d4fbf8a;rport=5060;received=99.xxx.253.yy From: ;tag=as258f78ca To: ;tag=12d18c5009a2de32fca8ae9d70ad0321.86aa Call-ID: 5e4b9d1927894a7d654dc5897f8c05ef at 127.0.0.1 CSeq: 103 REGISTER Server: Sip EXpress router (0.9.6 (i386/linux)) Content-Length: 0 Warning: 392 86.64.162.35:5060 "Noisy feedback tells: pid=24584 req_src_ip=99.xxx.253.yy req_src_port=5060 in_uri=sip:ekiga.net out_uri=sip:ekiga.net via_cnt==1" I assume the first stanza is the registration packet sent by asterisk to ekiga, and the bottom stanza is the ekiga.net response. From the bottom stanza, it seems ekiga.net "knows" the public ip address - 99.xxx.253.yy ( see the 4th line of the stanza and the last line), as well as the private address. But this is not enough? How should the registration packet be changed? According to the asterisk docs, it should meet RFC3581 (;rport). Does it? If not, then it's a bug in asterisk. Or is RFC3581 not enough for ekiga.net? In which case, asterisk needs an additional way of sending sip registration requests to meet ekiga's requirements. I'd really like to use ekiga over asterisk. So if you can let me know how the sip registration packet should be changed, I'm happy to lobby for it on the asterisk lists. sean From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 4 18:00:48 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:00:48 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga registration in asterisk In-Reply-To: References: <1204622389.4274.8.camel@scorpion> <1204641768.3945.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1204653648.3945.20.camel@scorpion> Hi, Le mardi 04 mars 2008 ? 11:35 -0500, sean darcy a ?crit : > Damien Sandras wrote: > ............ > >> Here's what ekiga.net says it received: > >> <--- SIP read from UDP://86.64.162.35:5060 ---> > >> SIP/2.0 406 Not Acceptable > >> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP > >> 10.10.11.180:5060;branch=z9hG4bK17818198;rport=5060;received=96.xxx.253.yy > >> ............. > >> > >> so it knows both the public and the private. Does ekiga require both > >> addresses to be public? If so, anybody know how to force asterisk to do > >> this? > > > > No, you misunderstood. > > Ekiga sees it receives a packet from Ekiga.net (86.64.162.35). > > That packet is the answer from ekiga.net, which contains portions of the > > original request, which in turn contains only private IP addresses, > > which is wrong. > > I must be slow here, but if I turn on sip debug in asterisk it shows: [...] > I assume the first stanza is the registration packet sent by asterisk to > ekiga, and the bottom stanza is the ekiga.net response. > > From the bottom stanza, it seems ekiga.net "knows" the public ip > address - 99.xxx.253.yy ( see the 4th line of the stanza and the last > line), as well as the private address. But this is not enough? No it is not enough. Because even though we can guess the public IP address and port for the signalisation messages, they are impossible to guess when it comes to audio and video RTP traffic. That is the reason why ekiga.net is configured to reject your REGISTER PDU : because it contains private IP addresses and ports, and thus it means your system is not NAT aware and subsequent calls will fail. > How should the registration packet be changed? According to the asterisk > docs, it should meet RFC3581 (;rport). Does it? If not, then it's a bug > in asterisk. > > Or is RFC3581 not enough for ekiga.net? In which case, asterisk needs an > additional way of sending sip registration requests to meet ekiga's > requirements. RFC3581 will help for signalisation, however, it won't help for the RTP streams. You have to configure Asterisk in such a way that the PDUs contain public IP addresses and ports. It can be done either by using STUN, or by using directives like externip + port forwarding for the RTP ports. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From TSchlabach at gmx.net Wed Mar 5 10:33:50 2008 From: TSchlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:33:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows - Snapshots? Message-ID: <20080305103350.113500@gmx.net> Dear list! I have some problems with the current 2.0.11-BETA version of Ekiga. So I thought before I set up a build environment myself and check if the latest CVS version fixed the problems or not, I'd look for some nightly snapshots, but I am not sure that I have correctly understood the status of that. Would this page need updating now that at least a beta version for Win32 is available straight from www.ekiga.org? http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/win32.php Also I found this message http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2007-September/msg00062.html Did that get fixed? If yes, where would I maybe find nightly snapshots for Windows? Regards, Torsten From tschlabach at gmx.net Wed Mar 5 10:47:43 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:47:43 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Win32: iconv.dll problems Message-ID: <47CE7A4F.5070706@gmx.net> Dear list! I have successfully installed and used the current Ekiga 2.0.11 beta for Windows on a couple of PCs, but recently ran into a problem in a new installation. The user installed Ekiga and tried to launch it, but received the following error message: Der Prozedureinsprungpunkt ?libicnov_set_relocation_prefix? wurde in der DLL ?iconv.dll? nicht gefunden (Sorry for the message being in German, but I think anyone gets what the message means.) So that would suggest that I might have a wrong version of iconv.dll. I searched the harddisk and found two instances of that DLL, one in C:\WINDOWS and one in some shared apps folder. I deleted both of them and re-installed Ekiga, hoping for it to install the version it needs in the place it's looking for it, but that did not succeed. I had an assertion failed problem reported by Ekiga after that. Then I downloaded and installed the current GTK+ 2.0 runtime for Windows. Assertion failed remained. The same happened after I copied the iconv.dll from the GTK directory straight into C:\WINDOWS. Any hints anyone? I mean, what's the plan? Where should iconv.dll come from, is it installed by the Ekiga installer and are there any known version conflicts? Regards, Torsten From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 5 11:13:31 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:13:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows - Snapshots? In-Reply-To: <20080305103350.113500@gmx.net> References: <20080305103350.113500@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1204715611.11822.13.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 05 mars 2008 ? 11:33 +0100, Torsten Schlabach a ?crit : > Dear list! > > I have some problems with the current 2.0.11-BETA version of Ekiga. So I thought before I set up a build environment myself and check if the latest CVS version fixed the problems or not, I'd look for some nightly snapshots, but I am not sure that I have correctly understood the status of that. > > Would this page need updating now that at least a beta version for Win32 is available straight from www.ekiga.org? > > http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/win32.php > > Also I found this message > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2007-September/msg00062.html > > Did that get fixed? > > If yes, where would I maybe find nightly snapshots for Windows? > Nightly snapshots are currently outdated. Nobody updates them anymore for the time being. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 5 11:16:16 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:16:16 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Win32: iconv.dll problems In-Reply-To: <47CE7A4F.5070706@gmx.net> References: <47CE7A4F.5070706@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1204715776.11822.16.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 05 mars 2008 ? 11:47 +0100, Torsten Schlabach a ?crit : > Dear list! > > I have successfully installed and used the current Ekiga 2.0.11 beta for > Windows on a couple of PCs, but recently ran into a problem in a new > installation. > > The user installed Ekiga and tried to launch it, but received the > following error message: > > Der Prozedureinsprungpunkt ?libicnov_set_relocation_prefix? wurde in der > DLL ?iconv.dll? nicht gefunden > > (Sorry for the message being in German, but I think anyone gets what the > message means.) > > So that would suggest that I might have a wrong version of iconv.dll. I > searched the harddisk and found two instances of that DLL, one in > C:\WINDOWS and one in some shared apps folder. > > I deleted both of them and re-installed Ekiga, hoping for it to install > the version it needs in the place it's looking for it, but that did not > succeed. I had an assertion failed problem reported by Ekiga after that. > > Then I downloaded and installed the current GTK+ 2.0 runtime for > Windows. Assertion failed remained. The same happened after I copied the > iconv.dll from the GTK directory straight into C:\WINDOWS. > > Any hints anyone? I mean, what's the plan? Where should iconv.dll come > from, is it installed by the Ekiga installer and are there any known > version conflicts? > You most probably have to uninstall GTK, and Ekiga, use the one provided by our executable. If it does not work, I suggest you to recompile yourself the binary from Linux. We plan to update the snapshots again at some point, but it might take some time before it gets done. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From tschlabach at gmx.net Wed Mar 5 11:36:59 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:36:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows - Snapshots? In-Reply-To: <1204715611.11822.13.camel@scorpion> References: <20080305103350.113500@gmx.net> <1204715611.11822.13.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47CE85DB.7090807@gmx.net> > Nightly snapshots are currently outdated. > Nobody updates them anymore for the time being. Aren't they built automatically? Do you mean just those for Windows or all nightly snapshots? Regards, Torsten Damien Sandras schrieb: > Le mercredi 05 mars 2008 ? 11:33 +0100, Torsten Schlabach a ?crit : > >>Dear list! >> >>I have some problems with the current 2.0.11-BETA version of Ekiga. So I thought before I set up a build environment myself and check if the latest CVS version fixed the problems or not, I'd look for some nightly snapshots, but I am not sure that I have correctly understood the status of that. >> >>Would this page need updating now that at least a beta version for Win32 is available straight from www.ekiga.org? >> >>http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/win32.php >> >>Also I found this message >> >>http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-devel-list/2007-September/msg00062.html >> >>Did that get fixed? >> >>If yes, where would I maybe find nightly snapshots for Windows? >> > > > Nightly snapshots are currently outdated. > > Nobody updates them anymore for the time being. From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 5 13:11:21 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:11:21 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows - Snapshots? In-Reply-To: <47CE85DB.7090807@gmx.net> References: <20080305103350.113500@gmx.net> <1204715611.11822.13.camel@scorpion> <47CE85DB.7090807@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1204722681.11822.18.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 05 mars 2008 ? 12:36 +0100, Torsten Schlabach a ?crit : > > Nightly snapshots are currently outdated. > > Nobody updates them anymore for the time being. > > Aren't they built automatically? > Do you mean just those for Windows or all nightly snapshots? > They are, but the system is broken. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From tschlabach at gmx.net Wed Mar 5 14:36:55 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:36:55 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Win32: iconv.dll problems In-Reply-To: <1204715776.11822.16.camel@scorpion> References: <47CE7A4F.5070706@gmx.net> <1204715776.11822.16.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47CEB007.7070003@gmx.net> Hi! Just got the exact working of the 2nd error message: Pango-ERROR**:file shape.c:line75(pango_shape):assertion failed:(glyphs->num_glyhps >0) aborting... Does that rind a bell? Regards, Torsten From shawn_adams at web.de Fri Mar 7 21:55:24 2008 From: shawn_adams at web.de (Shawn Adams) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:55:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Connection issues through T-Online In-Reply-To: <1204622647.4274.13.camel@scorpion> References: <5a2e13d30803020601u140ad555l538bcc9778fb5d2f@mail.gmail.com> <47CB373C.9000405@web.de> <1204534307.4080.0.camel@scorpion> <47CC736B.90307@web.de> <1204622647.4274.13.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D1B9CC.7070708@web.de> Damien, Thanks very much for the analysis. I'll try to get an answer out of them. I will try the codec/video idea. Best regards, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 03 mars 2008 ? 22:53 +0100, Shawn Adams a ?crit : >> Damien, >> >> Attached the "-d 4" debug. >> >> This is an SIP call using T-Online's great VOIP SIP service. >> >> note that when disconnecting most of these calls, ekiga crashes. >> Presume this is not relevant. >> >> odd thing - twinkle and XTEN xlite work. >> >> And technical support from T-Online is useless, I might try to get an >> inside contact via colleagues who work for T-systems. >> >> If you ever have time to look through, or need further info, please >> advise. I'd love to know what these guys are doing that is not exactly RFC. >> >> Best regards, >> > > It registers correctly. > It calls correctly. > But after 3 seconds, you receive a request to hangup from t-online. > > I do not know why, only them can tell. > > What I would do is trying to disable many codecs and disabling video. > Perhaps it triggers a bug on their side... From dean at brettle.com Mon Mar 10 01:37:18 2008 From: dean at brettle.com (Dean Brettle) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:37:18 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Is 500@ekiga.net working? Message-ID: Hi, I'm using 2.0.11 on Fedora 8. I'm able to do an audio-only echo test to sip:*010600 (voxalot), so presumably my NAT traversal is OK. However, when I try to connect to sip:500 (even using the picture video plugin), the window resizes a couple times and I don't appear to ever be connected. In the "Calls History", the reason given is "Remote user is unreachable". Which leads to my question: Is 500 at ekiga.net just not working right now? Thanks, --Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Mon Mar 10 03:06:21 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:06:21 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Is 500@ekiga.net working? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af451740803092006j61e4be17j5b536fd15df36377@mail.gmail.com> me too. I have not been able to connect for 2 days. On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Dean Brettle wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using 2.0.11 on Fedora 8. I'm able to do an audio-only echo test to > sip:*010600 (voxalot), so presumably my NAT traversal is OK. However, when > I try to connect to sip:500 (even using the picture video plugin), the > window resizes a couple times and I don't appear to ever be connected. In > the "Calls History", the reason given is "Remote user is unreachable". > Which leads to my question: > > Is 500 at ekiga.net just not working right now? > > Thanks, > > --Dean > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 10 09:05:12 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:05:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Is 500@ekiga.net working? In-Reply-To: <2af451740803092006j61e4be17j5b536fd15df36377@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803092006j61e4be17j5b536fd15df36377@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205139912.4430.2.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 09 mars 2008 ? 21:06 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > me too. I have not been able to connect for 2 days. > Asterisk was crashed and did not restart, sorry for the inconvenience. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 10 11:46:38 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:46:38 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released Message-ID: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. * What is it ? ============== Ekiga is a free Voice over IP softphone allowing you to do free calls over the Internet. Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as GnomeMeeting. More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org * Where to get it ? =================== Ekiga is available at: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/2.0 Dependancies like OPAL and PWLIB are available at: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/2.2/ ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/pwlib/1.10 OPAL and PWLIB *external* dependencies are OPAL 2.2.11 and PWLIB 1.10.10. * What's changed ? ================== - Fixed GNOME independant build. (Vincent Luba) - Fixed potential deadlock due to mutexes being crossed. (Damien Sandras, #433852) - Fixed double popup occuring when changing the DTMF mode during a call. (Elaine Xiong, #485336) - Added back support for tooltips displayed in the statusbar. (Damien Sandras) - Fixed potential crash if gconfd is not running. (Damien Sandras, #498029) - Several translations updates. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From mariofutire at googlemail.com Mon Mar 10 19:58:37 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:58:37 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D592ED.900@googlemail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > Hi. I get this error while running configure. The same does *not* happen with 2.0.11 with the same configure. I'm running Fedora 7. [andrea at thinkpad ekiga-2.0.11]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --disable-avahi --disable-doc .. .. checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GNOME_DOC_UTILS" was never defined. Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. Andrea From mariofutire at googlemail.com Mon Mar 10 20:01:30 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:01:30 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> > > Damien Sandras wrote: > > > > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > > > > Hi. > I get this error while running configure. > The same does *not* happen with 2.0.11 with the same configure. > I'm running Fedora 7. > > > [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.11]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local > --disable-avahi --disable-doc > > .. > .. > checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext > configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GNOME_DOC_UTILS" was never defined. > Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. Made a mistake in the mail in copy and paste: I'm running from ekiga-2.0.12 not 2.0.11. [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.12]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --disable-avahi --disable-doc Andrea From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 10 20:27:40 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:27:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 10 mars 2008 ? 20:01 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > > > Damien Sandras wrote: > > > > > > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > > > > > > > Hi. > > I get this error while running configure. > > The same does *not* happen with 2.0.11 with the same configure. > > I'm running Fedora 7. > > > > > > [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.11]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local > --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local > --disable-avahi --disable-doc > > > > .. > > .. > > checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext > > configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GNOME_DOC_UTILS" was never defined. > > Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. > > Made a mistake in the mail in copy and paste: I'm running from ekiga-2.0.12 not 2.0.11. > > [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.12]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local > --disable-avahi --disable-doc > configure.ac was not changed between 2.0.11 and 2.0.12... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From mariofutire at googlemail.com Mon Mar 10 21:05:18 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:05:18 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D5A28E.4050809@googlemail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 10 mars 2008 ? 20:01 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > configure.ac was not changed between 2.0.11 and 2.0.12... I don't know about "configure.ac" but for sure "configure" has been changed. I attach the diff, where you will see that this error message was not even there in 2.0.11 Andrea -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: conf.diff.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 3915 bytes Desc: not available URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 15:55:42 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:55:42 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] rough starting Message-ID: <2af451740803110855y584acaa2t4b1c02ebc1c7d773@mail.gmail.com> For those of us still running 2.0.11, I have found that when I first start Ekiga in the am after a new start, that Ekiga does not come up until after I do a ps | grep ekiga and find the process that is still running and the kill it. Then Ekiga starts ok. Peace................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From mariofutire at googlemail.com Tue Mar 11 22:23:40 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:23:40 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D7066C.2020406@googlemail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 10 mars 2008 ? 20:01 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : >>>> Damien Sandras wrote: >> [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.12]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local >> --disable-avahi --disable-doc >> > > configure.ac was not changed between 2.0.11 and 2.0.12... Hi, could you please point me in the right direction. I find hard to believe that I download the source code and I get a corrupted "configure" script. Is there anything wrong in the steps I've followed to compile? Thanks From michel.memeteau at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 22:38:59 2008 From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:38:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: Damien , this is great . But is this a good idea to remove any link on 2.0.11 on the website ? My Noob friends were a bit disapointed that only the source version for 2.0.12 was available . On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > > * What is it ? > ============== > > Ekiga is a free Voice over IP softphone allowing you to do free calls > over the Internet. > > Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and > SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as > GnomeMeeting. > > More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org > > > * Where to get it ? > =================== > > Ekiga is available at: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/2.0 > > Dependancies like OPAL and PWLIB are available at: > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/2.2/ > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/pwlib/1.10 > > OPAL and PWLIB *external* dependencies are OPAL 2.2.11 > and PWLIB 1.10.10. > > > * What's changed ? > ================== > > - Fixed GNOME independant build. (Vincent Luba) > - Fixed potential deadlock due to mutexes being crossed. (Damien Sandras, #433852) > - Fixed double popup occuring when changing the DTMF mode during a call. (Elaine Xiong, #485336) > - Added back support for tooltips displayed in the statusbar. (Damien Sandras) > - Fixed potential crash if gconfd is not running. (Damien Sandras, #498029) > - Several translations updates. > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- %<------------------------------------------------------->% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr From michel.memeteau at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 22:42:01 2008 From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:42:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, michel memeteau wrote: > Damien , this is great . > > But is this a good idea to remove any link on 2.0.11 on the website ? > > My Noob friends were a bit disapointed that only the source version > for 2.0.12 was available . Found the link http://www.ekiga.org/admin/downloads/2.0.11/windows/windows/ekiga-setup-2.0.11-BETA.exe > > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > > > > > * What is it ? > > ============== > > > > Ekiga is a free Voice over IP softphone allowing you to do free calls > > over the Internet. > > > > Ekiga is the first Open Source application to support both H.323 and > > SIP, as well as audio and video. Ekiga was formerly known as > > GnomeMeeting. > > > > More information can be found at http://www.ekiga.org > > > > > > * Where to get it ? > > =================== > > > > Ekiga is available at: > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/ekiga/2.0 > > > > Dependancies like OPAL and PWLIB are available at: > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/opal/2.2/ > > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/pwlib/1.10 > > > > OPAL and PWLIB *external* dependencies are OPAL 2.2.11 > > and PWLIB 1.10.10. > > > > > > * What's changed ? > > ================== > > > > - Fixed GNOME independant build. (Vincent Luba) > > - Fixed potential deadlock due to mutexes being crossed. (Damien Sandras, #433852) > > - Fixed double popup occuring when changing the DTMF mode during a call. (Elaine Xiong, #485336) > > - Added back support for tooltips displayed in the statusbar. (Damien Sandras) > > - Fixed potential crash if gconfd is not running. (Damien Sandras, #498029) > > - Several translations updates. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > (o- > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > -- > %<------------------------------------------------------->% > Michel memeteau > Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr > Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 > VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com > jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr > -- %<------------------------------------------------------->% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr From lurch at gmx.li Wed Mar 12 01:39:45 2008 From: lurch at gmx.li (Stefan Bruens) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:39:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> Am Montag, 10. M?rz 2008 21:27:40 schrieb Damien Sandras: > Le lundi 10 mars 2008 ? 20:01 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > > > > Damien Sandras wrote: > > > > This is an update of Ekiga 2.0. > > > > > > Hi. > > > I get this error while running configure. > > > The same does *not* happen with 2.0.11 with the same configure. > > > I'm running Fedora 7. > > > > > > > > > [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.11]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local > > > > --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local > --disable-avahi --disable-doc > > > > > .. > > > .. > > > checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext > > > configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GNOME_DOC_UTILS" was never > > > defined. Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. > > > > Made a mistake in the mail in copy and paste: I'm running from > > ekiga-2.0.12 not 2.0.11. > > > > [andrea thinkpad ekiga-2.0.12]$ ./configure --with-opal-dir=/usr/local > > --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --disable-avahi --disable-doc > > configure.ac was not changed between 2.0.11 and 2.0.12... The problem is a newer version of the GNOME_DOC_INIT macro. This macro contains two calls to "AM_CONDITIONAL", first, with 'ENABLE_SK', and second, for recent versions of gdu, 'HAVE_GNOME_DOC_UTILS'. The validity of variables defined by AM_CONDITIONAL is checked if the macro is _included_! So the following piece of code introduces checks for above mentioned conditionals, but may not define them: ------ if test ${enable_gnome} = yes && test ${enable_doc} = yes; then GNOME_DOC_INIT else ENABLE_SK_TRUE="#" ENABLE_SK_FALSE="" fi ------ The correct version of this code fragment is most probably: ----- if test ${enable_gnome} = yes && test ${enable_doc} = yes; then GNOME_DOC_INIT else dnl Do not care if GDU is not found GNOME_DOC_INIT(,,[:]) fi ----- @Andrea: can you change your configure.in according to my recommendation, run 'autoreconf' afterwards and check if configure still fails? Stefan -- Stefan Br?ns / Kastanienweg 6 - Zimmer 1206 / 52074 Aachen mailto:lurch at gmx.li http://www.kawo1.rwth-aachen.de/~lurchi/ phone: +49 241 169-4206 mobile: +49 151 50412019 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 12 08:37:45 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:37:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205311065.4109.0.camel@scorpion> Le mardi 11 mars 2008 ? 23:38 +0100, michel memeteau a ?crit : > Damien , this is great . > > But is this a good idea to remove any link on 2.0.11 on the website ? > > My Noob friends were a bit disapointed that only the source version > for 2.0.12 was available . > Well the future site should give easy access to older releases, but in this case, it is hard to do. And mixing 2.0.11 and 2.0.12 on the same page is not a good idea. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From johnhawley at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 12 11:08:02 2008 From: johnhawley at blueyonder.co.uk (John Hawley) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:08:02 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <47D7066C.2020406@googlemail.com> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> <47D7066C.2020406@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <47D7B992.7060702@blueyonder.co.uk> Of perhaps a little more significance to me is : Is there a projected date for the release of 3.0 in alpha or beta form? Regards John H From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 17:52:28 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:52:28 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 Message-ID: Is this a configuration error on my part, or just the server having a temporary fit? sean From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 17:59:33 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:59:33 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept calld On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:52 AM, sean darcy wrote: > Is this a configuration error on my part, or just the server having a > temporary fit? > > sean > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 12 18:38:59 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:38:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 In-Reply-To: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205347139.4085.0.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept calld > It seems to work now. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From stuart_lesnett at lesnett.com Wed Mar 12 19:43:29 2008 From: stuart_lesnett at lesnett.com (Stuart Lesnett) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:43:29 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 In-Reply-To: <1205347139.4085.0.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> <1205347139.4085.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205351009.7942.7.camel@dig-charlee> 500 and 501 has not worked in our location for 3 days. I fact I don't know where you trying it from but it didn't work 10 minutes ago. I've just checked my Windows-XP version and it is running 500 but 501 does not have the introduction. So, I think you using a windows machine instead of Ubuntu 7.10, in fact in the morning we received the security check failure. Good Luck. Stu On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 19:38 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept calld > > > > It seems to work now. > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 12 19:47:39 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:47:39 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 In-Reply-To: <1205351009.7942.7.camel@dig-charlee> References: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> <1205347139.4085.0.camel@scorpion> <1205351009.7942.7.camel@dig-charlee> Message-ID: <1205351259.4085.8.camel@scorpion> Unfortunately, the Windows version is not well maintained :( Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 15:43 -0400, Stuart Lesnett a ?crit : > 500 and 501 has not worked in our location for 3 days. I fact I don't > know where you trying it from but it didn't work 10 minutes ago. I've > just checked my Windows-XP version and it is running 500 but 501 does > not have the introduction. So, I think you using a windows machine > instead of Ubuntu 7.10, in fact in the morning we received the > security check failure. > > Good Luck. > Stu > > > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 19:38 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept calld > > > > > > > It seems to work now. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > (o- > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From stuart_lesnett at lesnett.com Wed Mar 12 19:58:01 2008 From: stuart_lesnett at lesnett.com (Stuart Lesnett) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:58:01 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35 In-Reply-To: <1205351259.4085.8.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803121059x1f8fe349kf55f3dfa5a1848d8@mail.gmail.com> <1205347139.4085.0.camel@scorpion> <1205351009.7942.7.camel@dig-charlee> <1205351259.4085.8.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205351881.7942.10.camel@dig-charlee> IT may not be well maintained but at least it works...................................... TO bad the Linux UBUNTU 7.10 version doesn't run that well. On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 20:47 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > Unfortunately, the Windows version is not well maintained :( > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 15:43 -0400, Stuart Lesnett a ?crit : > > 500 and 501 has not worked in our location for 3 days. I fact I don't > > know where you trying it from but it didn't work 10 minutes ago. I've > > just checked my Windows-XP version and it is running 500 but 501 does > > not have the introduction. So, I think you using a windows machine > > instead of Ubuntu 7.10, in fact in the morning we received the > > security check failure. > > > > Good Luck. > > Stu > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 19:38 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept calld > > > > > > > > > > It seems to work now. > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > (o- > > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From svesmeralda at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 20:11:32 2008 From: svesmeralda at gmail.com (Jim Barber) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:11:32 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] mailing list Message-ID: <1205352692.6357.19.camel@jims-toshiba-ubuntu> Please unsubscribe me from the ekiga-list mailing list. Thank you, Jim Barber From mariofutire at googlemail.com Wed Mar 12 20:49:54 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:49:54 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> Message-ID: <47D841F2.4040303@googlemail.com> Stefan Bruens wrote: > > @Andrea: can you change your configure.in according to my recommendation, > run 'autoreconf' afterwards and check if configure still fails? > > Stefan Done. It looks like it is working. Good job. Andrea From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 12 21:14:13 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:14:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <47D841F2.4040303@googlemail.com> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> <47D841F2.4040303@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1205356453.4085.10.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 20:49 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > Stefan Bruens wrote: > > > > @Andrea: can you change your configure.in according to my recommendation, > > run 'autoreconf' afterwards and check if configure still fails? > > > > Stefan > > Done. > > It looks like it is working. > > Good job. Can you post a patch ? Thanks, -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From mariofutire at googlemail.com Wed Mar 12 21:24:57 2008 From: mariofutire at googlemail.com (Andrea) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:24:57 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <1205356453.4085.10.camel@scorpion> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> <47D841F2.4040303@googlemail.com> <1205356453.4085.10.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47D84A29.6020108@googlemail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 20:49 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : >> Stefan Bruens wrote: >>> @Andrea: can you change your configure.in according to my recommendation, >>> run 'autoreconf' afterwards and check if configure still fails? >>> >>> Stefan >> Done. >> >> It looks like it is working. >> >> Good job. > > Can you post a patch ? > > Thanks, Sure. 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Name: conf.diff Type: text/x-patch Size: 377 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 13 22:22:13 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:22:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 released In-Reply-To: <47D84A29.6020108@googlemail.com> References: <1205149598.10238.9.camel@scorpion> <47D5939A.6090104@googlemail.com> <1205180860.4124.9.camel@scorpion> <200803120239.57270.lurch@gmx.li> <47D841F2.4040303@googlemail.com> <1205356453.4085.10.camel@scorpion> <47D84A29.6020108@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1205446933.4110.45.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 21:24 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 20:49 +0000, Andrea a ?crit : > >> Stefan Bruens wrote: > >>> @Andrea: can you change your configure.in according to my recommendation, > >>> run 'autoreconf' afterwards and check if configure still fails? > >>> > >>> Stefan > >> Done. > >> > >> It looks like it is working. > >> > >> Good job. > > > > Can you post a patch ? > > > > Thanks, > > Sure. Here it is. > I committed it. Thanks! -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From cam at ellisonpsychology.ca Fri Mar 14 03:34:18 2008 From: cam at ellisonpsychology.ca (Cam Ellison) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:34:18 -0800 Subject: [Ekiga-list] mailing list In-Reply-To: <1205352692.6357.19.camel@jims-toshiba-ubuntu> References: <1205352692.6357.19.camel@jims-toshiba-ubuntu> Message-ID: <200803132034.19398.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> On Wednesday 12 March 2008 13:11:32 Jim Barber wrote: > Please unsubscribe me from the ekiga-list mailing list. This is something that you can do for yourself, and I'm sure you have the ability. Go to the website listed at the bottom of every message, and take it from there. Cam -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. #01417 Cam Ellison & Associates Ltd. Management Psychology 3446 Beach Avenue Roberts Creek BC V0N 2W2 Phone: 604.885.4806 Fax: 604.885.4809 Cell: 604.989.0635 From hamedsuhli at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 04:56:12 2008 From: hamedsuhli at gmail.com (Hamed alSuhli) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:56:12 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] how to run voip on ethernet? Message-ID: <47DB56EC.2040701@gmail.com> Dear members, I need to run voice chat on small windows Linux Ethernet, without internet connection. what can I do? can I use ekiga? From jpuydt at free.fr Sat Mar 15 13:16:56 2008 From: jpuydt at free.fr (Julien Puydt) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:16:56 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] how to run voip on ethernet? In-Reply-To: <47DB56EC.2040701@gmail.com> References: <47DB56EC.2040701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47DBCC48.9000908@free.fr> Hamed alSuhli a ?crit : > I need to run voice chat on small windows Linux Ethernet, > without internet connection. No problem. > what can I do? Use ekiga. > can I use ekiga? Yes. Snark on #ekiga From tschlabach at gmx.net Sat Mar 15 13:20:28 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:20:28 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] how to run voip on ethernet? In-Reply-To: <47DB56EC.2040701@gmail.com> References: <47DB56EC.2040701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47DBCD1C.8090604@gmx.net> Hi! You can use Ekiga as a client software for sure. You would have to create your own local server. You can use OpenSER for that, for example. The free SIP service of ekiga.net (don't mix up with ekiga.org) is SER at the moment as is planned to migrate to OpenSER, see: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/OpenSER_migration So you should be able to grab OpenSER on their website an get it installed onto your own local server, then connect your Ekiga clients to that to create your own local disconnected SIP / Chat / whatever system. OpenSER is not trivial, but there are Howtos available. Regards, Torsten Hamed alSuhli schrieb: > Dear members, > > I need to run voice chat on small windows Linux Ethernet, > without internet connection. > > what can I do? > can I use ekiga? > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From george_reeves at comcast.net Sat Mar 15 15:12:05 2008 From: george_reeves at comcast.net (George Reeves) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:12:05 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Reply: how to run voip on ethernet? Message-ID: <47DBE745.8070708@comcast.net> Are you wanting to run Ekiga over a local LAN? If you are using a STUN server for your connections you probably will not be able to do so without an Internet connection. Give us some more information about what you are trying to do. From hamedsuhli at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 15:47:18 2008 From: hamedsuhli at gmail.com (Hamed alSuhli) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:47:18 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Reply: how to run voip on ethernet? In-Reply-To: <47DBE745.8070708@comcast.net> References: <47DBE745.8070708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47DBEF86.8040009@gmail.com> Thanks a lot, I don't use STUN. my Lan is windowsXP workstations & win2003 server, no domain, Linux workstation for backup the 2003 server& control other XP workstations. & voice contact with. if all windows net support will be good, but from linux I didnt find one solution. so I try Three Backup, control, voice chat iTalk for control Ekiga for voice chat From archwparsons at nf.sympatico.ca Sun Mar 16 00:18:21 2008 From: archwparsons at nf.sympatico.ca (Arch Parsons) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:48:21 -0230 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 2.0.11 Message-ID: <1205626701.8394.3.camel@arch-desktop> Hello, I am a Newbie to Ubuntu as well as to Ekiga. I still have not had any success configuring Ekiga. I tried to install the newer .12 version but could not figure out how to upgrade the .11 version. When I try to do the configuration wizard it asks to check my NAT and then crashes on an attempt to go to the next step. Any suggestions would be appreciated. archp2008 From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 16 09:09:32 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:09:32 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 2.0.11 In-Reply-To: <1205626701.8394.3.camel@arch-desktop> References: <1205626701.8394.3.camel@arch-desktop> Message-ID: <1205658572.4237.0.camel@scorpion> Le samedi 15 mars 2008 ? 21:48 -0230, Arch Parsons a ?crit : > Hello, > > I am a Newbie to Ubuntu as well as to Ekiga. I still have not had any > success configuring Ekiga. I tried to install the newer .12 version but > could not figure out how to upgrade the .11 version. When I try to do > the configuration wizard it asks to check my NAT and then crashes on an > attempt to go to the next step. Any suggestions would be appreciated. What is the backtrace ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From sevmek at free.fr Sun Mar 16 09:33:59 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:33:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 2.0.11 In-Reply-To: <1205658572.4237.0.camel@scorpion> References: <1205626701.8394.3.camel@arch-desktop> <1205658572.4237.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205660039.2039.33.camel@achille> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 10:09 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Le samedi 15 mars 2008 ? 21:48 -0230, Arch Parsons a ?crit : > > Hello, > > > > I am a Newbie to Ubuntu as well as to Ekiga. I still have not had any > > success configuring Ekiga. I tried to install the newer .12 version but > > could not figure out how to upgrade the .11 version. When I try to do > > the configuration wizard it asks to check my NAT and then crashes on an > > attempt to go to the next step. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > What is the backtrace ? Here is a how-to to produce the backtrace: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_send_us_a_backtrace_from_a_crash > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From sevmek at free.fr Sun Mar 16 09:41:57 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:41:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 2.0.11 In-Reply-To: <1205660039.2039.33.camel@achille> References: <1205626701.8394.3.camel@arch-desktop> <1205658572.4237.0.camel@scorpion> <1205660039.2039.33.camel@achille> Message-ID: <1205660517.2039.35.camel@achille> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 10:33 +0100, yannick a ?crit : > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 10:09 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > Le samedi 15 mars 2008 ? 21:48 -0230, Arch Parsons a ?crit : > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am a Newbie to Ubuntu as well as to Ekiga. I still have not had any > > > success configuring Ekiga. I tried to install the newer .12 version but > > > could not figure out how to upgrade the .11 version. When I try to do > > > the configuration wizard it asks to check my NAT and then crashes on an > > > attempt to go to the next step. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > What is the backtrace ? > > Here is a how-to to produce the backtrace: > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_send_us_a_backtrace_from_a_crash Also make sure you're not hitting this bug: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga#head-1096fe2386870b8e741534ea58e2a7409e6129ee > > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > (o- > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? > sip:yannick at ekiga.net > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From jacques at lavignotte.org Sun Mar 16 13:27:39 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:27:39 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Anybody ready for a short test ? Message-ID: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> Hello, Ekiga is just set up down here and I wonder if anybody wants to make a short test ? Prefered languages : french, basic english and spanish. Thanks in advance Jacques Jacques Lavignotte From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 16:02:15 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:02:15 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Anybody ready for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <2af451740803160902k798b099egae0ab62d2714bd71@mail.gmail.com> I connected just now, but no video or audio from your end. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:27 AM, jacques wrote: > Hello, > > Ekiga is just set up down here and I wonder if anybody wants to make a > short test ? Prefered languages : french, basic english and spanish. > > Thanks in advance > > > Jacques > > Jacques Lavignotte > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 16:27:58 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:27:58 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Anybody ready for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <2af451740803160902k798b099egae0ab62d2714bd71@mail.gmail.com> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803160902k798b099egae0ab62d2714bd71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af451740803160927u5444c6a2j7692c30b7a6c5ca8@mail.gmail.com> This time I could hear you but it was breaking up. I had the volume turned down before u booted but it was ok last time. But still breaking up. I am in Montana USA..that is the western part of US. I understand u r near Paris.. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Edward Dunagin wrote: > I connected just now, but no video or audio from your end. > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:27 AM, jacques wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Ekiga is just set up down here and I wonder if anybody wants to make a > > short test ? Prefered languages : french, basic english and spanish. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Jacques > > > > Jacques Lavignotte > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > -- > Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan > Bozeman, MT 59718 > mobile 406-570-0992 > Landline 406-556-7282 > VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp > http://doas.montanalinux.org > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Sun Mar 16 16:36:23 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:36:23 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 Message-ID: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> _ I'm New here. Using _Debian Testing. The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How do I get Ekiga to use that output for video? Paul From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 16:45:15 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:45:15 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> Hello Paul On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: > _ > > I'm New here. > Using _Debian Testing. > The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How do > I get Ekiga to use that output for video? Mine worked right outa the box. I am using UbuntuStudio7.10. You might try ekiga-config-tool with caution. Check the man page on it. Good luck...................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From seandarcy2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 17:16:22 2008 From: seandarcy2 at gmail.com (sean darcy) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] usb handset: Uniden WIN1200? Message-ID: I'm looking for a usb cordless handset to pair with ekiga. I'd like not to be tied to the pc while I talk. I've looked at the bluetooth headsets, but they seem overkill for just home phone extensions. I've found a number of handsets that work with skype, but they seem locked into skype. I've also found the Uniden WIN1200, which works with MS Messenger. It doesn't appear to be locked in like as the skype phones. Anyone have any experience or suggestions? sean From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Sun Mar 16 17:29:51 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:29:51 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> Edward Dunagin wrote: > Hello Paul > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, J. Paul Bissonnette > wrote: > >> _ >> >> I'm New here. >> Using _Debian Testing. >> The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How do >> I get Ekiga to use that output for video? >> > > Mine worked right outa the box. I am using UbuntuStudio7.10. > You might try ekiga-config-tool with caution. Check the man page on it. > > Good luck...................ed > > > > Thanks Ed Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 16 17:47:05 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:47:05 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 14:29 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > > Edward Dunagin wrote: > > Hello Paul > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, J. Paul Bissonnette > > wrote: > > > >> _ > >> > >> I'm New here. > >> Using _Debian Testing. > >> The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How do > >> I get Ekiga to use that output for video? > >> > > > > Mine worked right outa the box. I am using UbuntuStudio7.10. > > You might try ekiga-config-tool with caution. Check the man page on it. > > > > Good luck...................ed > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ed > Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are > V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From tanguy.leost at free.fr Sun Mar 16 18:43:36 2008 From: tanguy.leost at free.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tanguy_L=E9ost?=) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:43:36 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Anybody ready for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> jacques a ?crit : > Hello, > > Ekiga is just set up down here and I wonder if anybody wants to make a > short test ? Prefered languages : french, basic english and spanish. > > Thanks in advance > > > Jacques > > Jacques Lavignotte > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > Hello, I'm ok if you want to make some tests. I speak french & english. I haven't used ekiga for quite a while, but I assume my setup is ok. tleost at ekiga.net -- Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are From archwparsons at nf.sympatico.ca Sun Mar 16 20:13:28 2008 From: archwparsons at nf.sympatico.ca (Arch) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:28 -0330 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca><2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com><47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <001001c887a2$330beb50$0a02a8c0@homed309dbcb8c> Hello All, This terminal line stuff is pushing my technical comfort limit just a tad. Will give it a try, though, in due course. Will need to print out emails which I unfortunately received in Windows. Thanks, Archp2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damien Sandras" To: "Ekiga mailing list" Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 > > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 14:29 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : >> >> Edward Dunagin wrote: >> > Hello Paul >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, J. Paul Bissonnette >> > wrote: >> > >> >> _ >> >> >> >> I'm New here. >> >> Using _Debian Testing. >> >> The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How >> >> do >> >> I get Ekiga to use that output for video? >> >> >> > >> > Mine worked right outa the box. I am using UbuntuStudio7.10. >> > You might try ekiga-config-tool with caution. Check the man page on >> > it. >> > >> > Good luck...................ed >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks Ed >> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are >> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? > > Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 20:14:57 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:14:57 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Anybody ready for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> Message-ID: <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> cou7ld not connect just now. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tanguy L?ost wrote: > jacques a ?crit : > > > > Hello, > > > > Ekiga is just set up down here and I wonder if anybody wants to make a > > short test ? Prefered languages : french, basic english and spanish. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Jacques > > > > Jacques Lavignotte > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > Hello, > > I'm ok if you want to make some tests. > I speak french & english. > I haven't used ekiga for quite a while, but I assume my setup is ok. > > tleost at ekiga.net > > -- > Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From svenofix at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 20:22:31 2008 From: svenofix at gmail.com (Sven Zirkmann) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:22:31 -1000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up Message-ID: I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for WIndows? Whether or not it can take incoming calls from someone calling on a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone is calling, so that I can disconnect from the internet and take the call (since I'm on Dial-Up)? Sven -- "A penny saved is a penny earned." ....yeah right. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tschlabach at gmx.net Sun Mar 16 20:32:52 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:32:52 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> Hi Sven! It's possible to hook up a PSTN phone number with a VoIP account, then connect to that VoIP account using Ekiga. When it comes to details: 1. I think this might be OT for this list; I can recommend a general VoIP forum 2. For some hints, it would be helpful to know in which country that PSTN phone number would be. > Netwaiting for WIndows? What's that? Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone use analogue dial-up to connect to the Internet? Regards, Torsten Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for WIndows? > Whether or not it can take incoming calls from someone calling on > a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone is calling, so > that I can disconnect from the internet and take the call (since I'm > on Dial-Up)? > > Sven > > -- > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > ....yeah right. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From hamedsuhli at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 20:39:08 2008 From: hamedsuhli at gmail.com (Hamed alSuhli) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:39:08 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Reply: how to run voip on ethernet? In-Reply-To: <47DBE745.8070708@comcast.net> References: <47DBE745.8070708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47DD856C.60306@gmail.com> can I install Ekiga & openser on the same machine? what is the fast&safe configuration for debian openser backage on ubuntu 7.10? http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openser/openser_1.1.0-9etch1_i386.deb George Reeves wrote: > Are you wanting to run Ekiga over a local LAN? If you are using a STUN > server for your connections you probably will not be able to do so > without an Internet connection. Give us some more information about > what you are trying to do. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > From svenofix at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 20:56:33 2008 From: svenofix at gmail.com (Sven Zirkmann) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:56:33 -1000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> Message-ID: Your in for a big surprise! /: P One place where analogue dial-up is used is in the United States of America! At least in those out of the places where the telephone company is waaay too bloody lazy to put down (at the least) DSL cable. I live in Hawai'i, in an out of the way place, with only Dial-Up for internet. Wireless would be an option, if wasn't so expensive to set up. Netwaiting is a windows program for Dial-Up that notifies me about incoming calls and allows me to take the call. Btw, what does PSTN stand for? And what exactly is VoIP? Sorry, I'm fairly new to all this. Sven On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Torsten Schlabach wrote: > Hi Sven! > > It's possible to hook up a PSTN phone number with a VoIP account, then > connect to that VoIP account using Ekiga. When it comes to details: > > 1. I think this might be OT for this list; I can recommend a general > VoIP forum > 2. For some hints, it would be helpful to know in which country that > PSTN phone number would be. > > > Netwaiting for WIndows? > > What's that? > > Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone use analogue > dial-up to connect to the Internet? > > Regards, > Torsten > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for WIndows? > > Whether or not it can take incoming calls from someone calling on > > a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone is calling, so > > that I can disconnect from the internet and take the call (since I'm > > on Dial-Up)? > > > > Sven > > > > -- > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- "A penny saved is a penny earned." ....yeah right. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tschlabach at gmx.net Sun Mar 16 21:09:48 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:09:48 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47DD8C9C.7060806@gmx.net> Hi Sven! Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSTN Regards, Torsten Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > Your in for a big surprise! /: P > One place where analogue dial-up is used is > in the United States of America! At least in > those out of the places where the telephone company > is waaay too bloody lazy to put down (at the least) DSL > cable. > > I live in Hawai'i, in an out of the way place, with only Dial-Up > for internet. Wireless would be an option, if wasn't so expensive > to set up. > > Netwaiting is a windows program for Dial-Up that notifies me about > incoming calls and allows me to take the call. > > Btw, what does PSTN stand for? And what exactly is VoIP? > Sorry, I'm fairly new to all this. > > Sven > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Torsten Schlabach > wrote: > > Hi Sven! > > It's possible to hook up a PSTN phone number with a VoIP account, then > connect to that VoIP account using Ekiga. When it comes to details: > > 1. I think this might be OT for this list; I can recommend a general > VoIP forum > 2. For some hints, it would be helpful to know in which country that > PSTN phone number would be. > > > Netwaiting for WIndows? > > What's that? > > Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone use analogue > dial-up to connect to the Internet? > > Regards, > Torsten > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for WIndows? > > Whether or not it can take incoming calls from someone calling on > > a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone is calling, so > > that I can disconnect from the internet and take the call (since I'm > > on Dial-Up)? > > > > Sven > > > > -- > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > -- > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > ....yeah right. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From jacques at lavignotte.org Sun Mar 16 21:12:49 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:12:49 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > cou7ld not connect just now. Ekiga was down Thanks to Edward and Tangy for spending so much time testing with me. Obviously there's something wrong with my configuration. Sometimes it looks like the sound card gets stuck and I have to re-boot the computer :-( Tanguy suggested me to try some other CODECS (the less costly ones) but the sound is still chopped and often I dont hear the partner speaking or sometimes in a very strange manner, like *very slow and in a very low tone* I will try again sometimes, Ideas to fix this are welcome, Thanks everybody, Jacques in Poitiers (France) From jacques at lavignotte.org Sun Mar 16 21:15:18 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:15:18 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47DD8DE6.3010601@lavignotte.org> Torsten Schlabach a ?crit : > Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone use analogue > dial-up to connect to the Internet? Third world is closer than you even think :))) > Regards, > Torsten Jacques From tschlabach at gmx.net Sun Mar 16 21:20:46 2008 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:20:46 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: <47DD8DE6.3010601@lavignotte.org> References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> <47DD8DE6.3010601@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <47DD8F2E.1050703@gmx.net> jacques schrieb: > Third world is closer than you even think :))) Most so-called 3rd world countries have at least GPRS coverage, often EDGE. And often available to prepaid subscribers and at very affordable rates. Regards, Torsten From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 16 21:36:25 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:36:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 22:12 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > cou7ld not connect just now. > > Ekiga was down > > Thanks to Edward and Tangy for spending so much time testing with me. > > Obviously there's something wrong with my configuration. > > Sometimes it looks like the sound card gets stuck and I have to re-boot > the computer :-( > > Tanguy suggested me to try some other CODECS (the less costly ones) > but the sound is still chopped and often I dont hear the partner > speaking or sometimes in a very strange manner, like *very slow and in a > very low tone* > > I will try again sometimes, > > Ideas to fix this are welcome, It could be yet another alsa bug. Try upgrading it perhaps. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From tanguy.leost at free.fr Sun Mar 16 22:54:36 2008 From: tanguy.leost at free.fr (=?UTF-8?B?VGFuZ3V5IEzDqW9zdA==?=) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 22:12 +0100, jacques a ?crit : >> Edward Dunagin a ?crit : >>> cou7ld not connect just now. >> Ekiga was down >> >> Thanks to Edward and Tangy for spending so much time testing with me. >> >> Obviously there's something wrong with my configuration. >> >> Sometimes it looks like the sound card gets stuck and I have to re-boot >> the computer :-( >> >> Tanguy suggested me to try some other CODECS (the less costly ones) >> but the sound is still chopped and often I dont hear the partner >> speaking or sometimes in a very strange manner, like *very slow and in a >> very low tone* >> >> I will try again sometimes, >> >> Ideas to fix this are welcome, > > It could be yet another alsa bug. Try upgrading it perhaps. Anyway, I think my setup is not quite right either. I tried with another ekiga user (Thanks, Jean-michel ;) ) and it was not working properly; it started fine but the sound was becoming more and more choppy. I am just wondering, i just have a 512k broadband connection, what codecs should i use if i want to have an acceptable quality for the sound? (the video was quite good, by the way ) -- _Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are From svenofix at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 23:00:22 2008 From: svenofix at gmail.com (Sven Zirkmann) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:00:22 -1000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: <47DD8C9C.7060806@gmx.net> References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> <47DD8C9C.7060806@gmx.net> Message-ID: Thanks Maybe what I should be asking is whether or not it's possible for others to call me via landline while I'm on the internet? Sven On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Torsten Schlabach wrote: > Hi Sven! > > Try: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voip > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSTN > > Regards, > Torsten > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > Your in for a big surprise! /: P > > One place where analogue dial-up is used is > > in the United States of America! At least in > > those out of the places where the telephone company > > is waaay too bloody lazy to put down (at the least) DSL > > cable. > > > > I live in Hawai'i, in an out of the way place, with only Dial-Up > > for internet. Wireless would be an option, if wasn't so expensive > > to set up. > > > > Netwaiting is a windows program for Dial-Up that notifies me about > > incoming calls and allows me to take the call. > > > > Btw, what does PSTN stand for? And what exactly is VoIP? > > Sorry, I'm fairly new to all this. > > > > Sven > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Torsten Schlabach > > wrote: > > > > Hi Sven! > > > > It's possible to hook up a PSTN phone number with a VoIP account, > then > > connect to that VoIP account using Ekiga. When it comes to details: > > > > 1. I think this might be OT for this list; I can recommend a general > > VoIP forum > > 2. For some hints, it would be helpful to know in which country that > > PSTN phone number would be. > > > > > Netwaiting for WIndows? > > > > What's that? > > > > Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone use analogue > > dial-up to connect to the Internet? > > > > Regards, > > Torsten > > > > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > > I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for WIndows? > > > Whether or not it can take incoming calls from someone calling on > > > a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone is calling, > so > > > that I can disconnect from the internet and take the call (since > I'm > > > on Dial-Up)? > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > -- > > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- "A penny saved is a penny earned." ....yeah right. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacques at lavignotte.org Sun Mar 16 23:09:58 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:09:58 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] for a short test [AGAIN]? In-Reply-To: <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DDA8C6.4060607@lavignotte.org> Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 22:12 +0100, jacques a ?crit : >> >> Ideas to fix this are welcome, > It could be yet another alsa bug. Try upgrading it perhaps. Ekiga now runs on another computer (slower but more ? classic ? HP Vectra 700 VL) under Ubuntu 7.10. The '500' echo test sounds better, there are no erratics sound card ?jams? I'will by standing by to morrow around 09:00 TU for new tests, sound and chat only, no available camera at the moment. Callers will be welcome :) Jacques Lavignotte From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Sun Mar 16 23:47:13 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:47:13 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 14:29 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > >> Edward Dunagin wrote: >> >>> Hello Paul >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:36 AM, J. Paul Bissonnette >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> _ >>>> >>>> I'm New here. >>>> Using _Debian Testing. >>>> The USB output of the Panasonic PV-GS320 can be used as a webcam. How do >>>> I get Ekiga to use that output for video? >>>> >>>> >>> Mine worked right outa the box. I am using UbuntuStudio7.10. >>> You might try ekiga-config-tool with caution. Check the man page on it. >>> >>> Good luck...................ed >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks Ed >> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are >> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? >> > > Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? > Using the configuration assistant I can use the camera Microphone as the audio input. The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 module. Interesting. Paul From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 03:12:15 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:12:15 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> Message-ID: <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 23:54 +0100, Tanguy L?ost a ?crit : > Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 22:12 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > >> Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > >>> cou7ld not connect just now. > >> Ekiga was down > >> > >> Thanks to Edward and Tangy for spending so much time testing with me. > >> > >> Obviously there's something wrong with my configuration. > >> > >> Sometimes it looks like the sound card gets stuck and I have to re-boot > >> the computer :-( > >> > >> Tanguy suggested me to try some other CODECS (the less costly ones) > >> but the sound is still chopped and often I dont hear the partner > >> speaking or sometimes in a very strange manner, like *very slow and in a > >> very low tone* > >> > >> I will try again sometimes, > >> > >> Ideas to fix this are welcome, > > > > It could be yet another alsa bug. Try upgrading it perhaps. > > > Anyway, I think my setup is not quite right either. > I tried with another ekiga user (Thanks, Jean-michel ;) ) > and it was not working properly; it started fine but > the sound was becoming more and more choppy. > I am just wondering, i just have a 512k broadband connection, > what codecs should i use if i want to have an acceptable > quality for the sound? (the video was quite good, by the way ) Perhaps the video eats too much bandwidth. Is the quality better when you disable video ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 03:13:03 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:13:03 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <1205723583.4073.6.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 20:47 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > >> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are > >> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? > >> > > > > Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? > > > Using the configuration assistant I can use the camera Microphone as the > audio input. The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, > V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. > I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 > module. Interesting. > Compare the lsmod output on both machines. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 03:13:46 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:13:46 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Dial-Up In-Reply-To: References: <47DD83F4.6090707@gmx.net> <47DD8C9C.7060806@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1205723626.4073.8.camel@scorpion> Yes, it is possible. Many providers offer real phone numbers (including the one "suggested" by Ekiga). Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 13:00 -1000, Sven Zirkmann a ?crit : > Thanks > > Maybe what I should be asking is whether or not it's > possible for others to call me via landline while I'm on > the internet? > > Sven > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Torsten Schlabach > wrote: > Hi Sven! > > Try: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voip > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSTN > > Regards, > Torsten > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > > Your in for a big surprise! /: P > > One place where analogue dial-up is used is > > in the United States of America! At least in > > those out of the places where the telephone company > > is waaay too bloody lazy to put down (at the least) DSL > > cable. > > > > I live in Hawai'i, in an out of the way place, with only > Dial-Up > > for internet. Wireless would be an option, if wasn't so > expensive > > to set up. > > > > Netwaiting is a windows program for Dial-Up that notifies me > about > > incoming calls and allows me to take the call. > > > > Btw, what does PSTN stand for? And what exactly is VoIP? > > Sorry, I'm fairly new to all this. > > > > Sven > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Torsten Schlabach > > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi Sven! > > > > It's possible to hook up a PSTN phone number with a VoIP > account, then > > connect to that VoIP account using Ekiga. When it comes > to details: > > > > 1. I think this might be OT for this list; I can > recommend a general > > VoIP forum > > 2. For some hints, it would be helpful to know in which > country that > > PSTN phone number would be. > > > > > Netwaiting for WIndows? > > > > What's that? > > > > Just wondering? In what part of the world would anyone > use analogue > > dial-up to connect to the Internet? > > > > Regards, > > Torsten > > > > > > Sven Zirkmann schrieb: > > > I was wondering if Ekiga can work like Netwaiting for > WIndows? > > > Whether or not it can take incoming calls from > someone calling on > > > a regular phone? Or at least notify me that someone > is calling, so > > > that I can disconnect from the internet and take the > call (since I'm > > > on Dial-Up)? > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > -- > > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > > > ....yeah right. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > -- > "A penny saved is a penny earned." > > ....yeah right. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From tanguy.leost at free.fr Mon Mar 17 08:23:36 2008 From: tanguy.leost at free.fr (=?UTF-8?B?VGFuZ3V5IEzDqW9zdA==?=) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:23:36 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DE2A88.7020004@free.fr> Damien Sandras a ?crit : >> Anyway, I think my setup is not quite right either. >> I tried with another ekiga user (Thanks, Jean-michel ;) ) >> and it was not working properly; it started fine but >> the sound was becoming more and more choppy. >> I am just wondering, i just have a 512k broadband connection, >> what codecs should i use if i want to have an acceptable >> quality for the sound? (the video was quite good, by the way ) > > Perhaps the video eats too much bandwidth. Is the quality better when > you disable video ? I didn't really try... In the video codecs settings, I set the maximum bandwith to 6 ko/s, maybe it's too high? I'm going to try this morning with the test 500 at ekiga.net -- _Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are From tanguy.leost at free.fr Mon Mar 17 10:07:01 2008 From: tanguy.leost at free.fr (=?UTF-8?B?VGFuZ3V5IEzDqW9zdA==?=) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:07:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Perhaps the video eats too much bandwidth. Is the quality better when > you disable video ? I disabled the video and it was much better indeed... not yet perfect, but I could understand what Jacques was saying. I used the speex codec. My network connection might be too slow for sound *and* video at the same time. -- Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 10:31:42 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:31:42 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> Message-ID: <1205749902.4342.5.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 11:07 +0100, Tanguy L?ost a ?crit : > Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > > Perhaps the video eats too much bandwidth. Is the quality better when > > you disable video ? > > I disabled the video and it was much better indeed... not yet perfect, > but I could understand what Jacques was saying. I used the speex codec. > My network connection might be too slow for sound *and* video > at the same time. Ekiga 3.00 will support less bandwidth-intensive video codecs. You might try again when we release a beta. Perhaps 6 kb/s is indeed too much for your connection -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jacques at lavignotte.org Mon Mar 17 10:39:50 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:39:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [READY] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> Message-ID: <47DE4A76.1090609@lavignotte.org> Tanguy L?ost a ?crit : > but I could understand what Jacques was saying. I used the speex codec. Thanks for the test Tanguy, I am still ready tests with anybody else. Jacques -- To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org From tanguy.leost at free.fr Mon Mar 17 10:47:46 2008 From: tanguy.leost at free.fr (=?UTF-8?B?VGFuZ3V5IEzDqW9zdA==?=) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:47:46 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [THANKS] ...... for a short test ? In-Reply-To: <1205749902.4342.5.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD204B.6040204@lavignotte.org> <47DD6A58.7030100@free.fr> <2af451740803161314i4d1bd7b9v2e99efda0f2fb1ff@mail.gmail.com> <47DD8D51.9070709@lavignotte.org> <1205703385.19476.6.camel@scorpion> <47DDA52C.8090706@free.fr> <1205723535.4073.4.camel@scorpion> <47DE42C5.9060400@free.fr> <1205749902.4342.5.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DE4C52.2080302@free.fr> Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Ekiga 3.00 will support less bandwidth-intensive video codecs. You might > try again when we release a beta. > > Perhaps 6 kb/s is indeed too much for your connection I Just tried to call 500 at ekiga.net, with 2kb/s. It sounded acceptable, although the video quality was quite poor. But it seems to be a good compromise ;) I'll do some more testing with a "real" user. -- Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are From michel.memeteau at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 10:50:04 2008 From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:50:04 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [READY] ...... for a short test ? 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If you want a wireless solution , Buy a Nokia ESeries/Nseries On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 6:16 PM, sean darcy wrote: > I'm looking for a usb cordless handset to pair with ekiga. I'd like not > to be tied to the pc while I talk. I've looked at the bluetooth > headsets, but they seem overkill for just home phone extensions. > > I've found a number of handsets that work with skype, but they seem > locked into skype. > > I've also found the Uniden WIN1200, which works with MS Messenger. It > doesn't appear to be locked in like as the skype phones. > > Anyone have any experience or suggestions? > > sean > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- %<------------------------------------------------------->% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schoappied at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 18:41:40 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:41:40 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga Message-ID: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> Hi, I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga. What I need to know is the privacy policy of Ekiga. I'm very surprised that there's nothing about it on the website and also nothing to set up in the settings of Ekiga. Even skype has it... Isn't necessary to have very clear rules about the privacy of your users? And shouldn't those rules be on your website? I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. Kind regards, Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 18:47:19 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:47:19 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> Hi, Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > Hi, > > I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga. > > What I need to know is the privacy policy of Ekiga. I'm very surprised > that there's nothing about it on the website and also nothing to set up > in the settings of Ekiga. Even skype has it... > > Isn't necessary to have very clear rules about the privacy of your > users? And shouldn't those rules be on your website? > > I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of Ekiga > or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. > Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From schoappied at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 18:58:27 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:58:27 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > >> Hi, >> >> I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga. >> >> What I need to know is the privacy policy of Ekiga. I'm very surprised >> that there's nothing about it on the website and also nothing to set up >> in the settings of Ekiga. Even skype has it... >> >> Isn't necessary to have very clear rules about the privacy of your >> users? And shouldn't those rules be on your website? >> >> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of Ekiga >> or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. >> >> > > Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net ? > I think both are really important, is it not? Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 19:02:26 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:02:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:58 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga. > >> > >> What I need to know is the privacy policy of Ekiga. I'm very surprised > >> that there's nothing about it on the website and also nothing to set up > >> in the settings of Ekiga. Even skype has it... > >> > >> Isn't necessary to have very clear rules about the privacy of your > >> users? And shouldn't those rules be on your website? > >> > >> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of Ekiga > >> or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. > >> > >> > > > > Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net ? > > > I think both are really important, is it not? I do not understand what kind of user privacy you want to see stated related to ekiga. Do you mean encryption ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From cam at ellisonpsychology.ca Mon Mar 17 19:18:21 2008 From: cam at ellisonpsychology.ca (Cam Ellison) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:18:21 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> On Monday 17 March 2008 11:58:27 schoappied wrote: > Damien Sandras wrote: > >> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of > >> Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. > > > > Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net ? > > I think both are really important, is it not? You seem to assume that Ekiga is an organization, in the way that Skype is an organization. It is not at all the same thing: Skype is a commercial organization with a proprietary product and service; Ekiga is an open source application, and there is a community that supports and uses it. To use myself as an example, the only information that ekiga.net has access to are my name and email address. There need be no privacy statement, since there is no collection of personal data, such as Skype might require and use. Does that help? Cam -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. #01417 Cam Ellison & Associates Ltd. Management Psychology 3446 Beach Avenue Roberts Creek BC V0N 2W2 Phone: 604.885.4806 Fax: 604.885.4809 Cell: 604.989.0635 From schoappied at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 19:32:24 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:32:24 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:58 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > >> Damien Sandras wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga. >>>> >>>> What I need to know is the privacy policy of Ekiga. I'm very surprised >>>> that there's nothing about it on the website and also nothing to set up >>>> in the settings of Ekiga. Even skype has it... >>>> >>>> Isn't necessary to have very clear rules about the privacy of your >>>> users? And shouldn't those rules be on your website? >>>> >>>> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of Ekiga >>>> or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net ? >>> >>> >> I think both are really important, is it not? >> > > I do not understand what kind of user privacy you want to see stated > related to ekiga. Do you mean encryption ? > Damien, As a 'user' of a internetservice, like internet chat or phone, I want to know which information will be gathered and stored by the service. If they use information, what for and if there giving or selling information to third party's. Also I like to know how they protect there users against violations of privacy. Do you store for example the chat or call sessions? Do you store who call who and when? And if so, how can we as users delete 'history' or change the setting so that that sort of information will not be stored. It is not a specific distrust of Ekiga, but in my opinion every internet service should be protecting there users for misuse or privacy violations and they should be open about there privacy rules. I think it would be good if Ekiga can ensure there users that there privacy will not be violated by the service and that Ekiga shall do there best to protect there users against it. A sort of statement. As a user I can read that statement/ policy and can decide whether or not I will use that service. Here are some examples: http://www.skype.com/legal/privacy/general/ http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx http://www.voipbuster.com/en/privacy.html http://www.digium.com/en/company/view-policy.php?id=Privacy-Policy I think your service and software will be more 'open' if you're open, honest and clear about this, for every (potential) user. Best regards, Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 20:10:34 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:10:34 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 20:32 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > Damien, > > As a 'user' of a internetservice, like internet chat or phone, I want to > know which information will be gathered and stored by the service. If > they use information, what for and if there giving or selling > information to third party's. Also I like to know how they protect there > users against violations of privacy. > > Do you store for example the chat or call sessions? Do you store who > call who and when? And if so, how can we as users delete 'history' or > change the setting so that that sort of information will not be stored. > > It is not a specific distrust of Ekiga, but in my opinion every internet > service should be protecting there users for misuse or privacy > violations and they should be open about there privacy rules. I think it > would be good if Ekiga can ensure there users that there privacy will > not be violated by the service and that Ekiga shall do there best to > protect there users against it. A sort of statement. > > As a user I can read that statement/ policy and can decide whether or > not I will use that service. > > Here are some examples: > > http://www.skype.com/legal/privacy/general/ > http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx > http://www.voipbuster.com/en/privacy.html > http://www.digium.com/en/company/view-policy.php?id=Privacy-Policy > > I think your service and software will be more 'open' if you're open, > honest and clear about this, for every (potential) user. We only store user names and e-mail addresses and are not a commercial company, so perhaps it does not really make sense (as reported by Cam Ellison). However, it can not harm if we add such a notice somewhere. It is on the TODO : http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga.net_VoIP_service_subscription#What_about_privacy_and_VoIP_services_.3F -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From schoappied at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 20:41:33 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:41:33 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 20:32 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > >> Damien, >> >> As a 'user' of a internetservice, like internet chat or phone, I want to >> know which information will be gathered and stored by the service. If >> they use information, what for and if there giving or selling >> information to third party's. Also I like to know how they protect there >> users against violations of privacy. >> >> Do you store for example the chat or call sessions? Do you store who >> call who and when? And if so, how can we as users delete 'history' or >> change the setting so that that sort of information will not be stored. >> >> It is not a specific distrust of Ekiga, but in my opinion every internet >> service should be protecting there users for misuse or privacy >> violations and they should be open about there privacy rules. I think it >> would be good if Ekiga can ensure there users that there privacy will >> not be violated by the service and that Ekiga shall do there best to >> protect there users against it. A sort of statement. >> >> As a user I can read that statement/ policy and can decide whether or >> not I will use that service. >> >> Here are some examples: >> >> http://www.skype.com/legal/privacy/general/ >> http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx >> http://www.voipbuster.com/en/privacy.html >> http://www.digium.com/en/company/view-policy.php?id=Privacy-Policy >> >> I think your service and software will be more 'open' if you're open, >> honest and clear about this, for every (potential) user. >> > > We only store user names and e-mail addresses and are not a commercial > company, so perhaps it does not really make sense (as reported by Cam > Ellison). > > However, it can not harm if we add such a notice somewhere. It is on the > TODO : > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga.net_VoIP_service_subscription#What_about_privacy_and_VoIP_services_.3F > Thanks for your replies. I do disagree with your statements about that privacy statements is only or more needed for commercial services or organisations. I agree with you that some issues are more likely to happen when the service or organisation is commercial (e.g. selling information to third party's). But the chance that for example, others can get access to stored chat sessions (don't like to find my chat with my girlfriend on Google) or that people inside or outside the project will misuse the service, seems to me almost equal, and has nothing to do with open source or community based. I'm pleased that the 'statement/ policy' is on the TODO list. Although I think it's more important then just 'it can not harm'. I think the service and the software will be better for us, the users, if we know what the policy of Ekiga is and we don't have to worry about the privacy. I also think that more people want to switch from Skype to Ekiga if Ekiga can give some clear statements and guarantees about the privacy, because I know that there're a lot of people who do not like the policy of Skype or are a doubting about the policy of (for them) vague 'open source' communities. Please let me know if your policy is on the website, so I can know if and/ or how information is stored and how I can remove that or prevent it. I promise that I'll try Ekiga when I can agree with your policy ;) Thanks again and good luck with your project, cause I'd like to see more people switching from Skype to good alternatives and off course I'd like to enjoy a good internet phone service myself! Regards, Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 20:50:45 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:50:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205787045.15633.19.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 21:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : [...] > > However, it can not harm if we add such a notice somewhere. It is on the > > TODO : > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga.net_VoIP_service_subscription#What_about_privacy_and_VoIP_services_.3F > > > Thanks for your replies. > > I do disagree with your statements about that privacy statements is only > or more needed for commercial services or organisations. I agree with > you that some issues are more likely to happen when the service or > organisation is commercial (e.g. selling information to third party's). > But the chance that for example, others can get access to stored chat > sessions (don't like to find my chat with my girlfriend on Google) or > that people inside or outside the project will misuse the service, seems > to me almost equal, and has nothing to do with open source or community > based. > > I'm pleased that the 'statement/ policy' is on the TODO list. Although I > think it's more important then just 'it can not harm'. I think the > service and the software will be better for us, the users, if we know > what the policy of Ekiga is and we don't have to worry about the > privacy. I also think that more people want to switch from Skype to > Ekiga if Ekiga can give some clear statements and guarantees about the > privacy, because I know that there're a lot of people who do not like > the policy of Skype or are a doubting about the policy of (for them) > vague 'open source' communities. > > Please let me know if your policy is on the website, so I can know if > and/ or how information is stored and how I can remove that or prevent > it. I promise that I'll try Ekiga when I can agree with your policy ;) I'm not really a legal person. Moreover English is not my native language. Could you propose some text that we can put on the website after a review ? Basically, I do not want to give any guarantee about anything as an individual (imagine the server gets cracked for some reason, I do not want to be held responsible for that). Only email addresses and first name / last name informations are stored in a database. This information will not be made public or given to third-parties. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From schoappied at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 21:23:50 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:23:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1205787045.15633.19.camel@scorpion> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> <1205787045.15633.19.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47DEE166.1050707@gmail.com> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 21:41 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > > [...] > > >>> However, it can not harm if we add such a notice somewhere. It is on the >>> TODO : >>> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga.net_VoIP_service_subscription#What_about_privacy_and_VoIP_services_.3F >>> >>> >> Thanks for your replies. >> >> I do disagree with your statements about that privacy statements is only >> or more needed for commercial services or organisations. I agree with >> you that some issues are more likely to happen when the service or >> organisation is commercial (e.g. selling information to third party's). >> But the chance that for example, others can get access to stored chat >> sessions (don't like to find my chat with my girlfriend on Google) or >> that people inside or outside the project will misuse the service, seems >> to me almost equal, and has nothing to do with open source or community >> based. >> >> I'm pleased that the 'statement/ policy' is on the TODO list. Although I >> think it's more important then just 'it can not harm'. I think the >> service and the software will be better for us, the users, if we know >> what the policy of Ekiga is and we don't have to worry about the >> privacy. I also think that more people want to switch from Skype to >> Ekiga if Ekiga can give some clear statements and guarantees about the >> privacy, because I know that there're a lot of people who do not like >> the policy of Skype or are a doubting about the policy of (for them) >> vague 'open source' communities. >> >> Please let me know if your policy is on the website, so I can know if >> and/ or how information is stored and how I can remove that or prevent >> it. I promise that I'll try Ekiga when I can agree with your policy ;) >> > > I'm not really a legal person. What do you mean? > Moreover English is not my native > language. > Not mine too, that's dutch... > Could you propose some text that we can put on the website after a > review ? > > Only email addresses and first name / last name informations are stored > in a database. This information will not be made public or given to > third-parties. > I'd like to help you, although I do not have any experience with this kind of stuff. I think what you can do is putting on your website how Ekiga handles information. So saying that information will not be made public or given to third parties is a start. Maybe you can make it possible to register without having to give your first and family name? Often there's a '*' for the information which is absolutely needed and the further information is optional.... You can make first and family name optional. Further you can use the skype privacy statements as a example. They give answers to a couple of 'possible' questions. http://www.skype.com/legal/privacy/general/ Look what's relevant to Ekiga and answer them, don't use the ones which a irrelevant to Ekiga and think if there're other questions/ answers which are relevant to the project. Keep it short. /'Basically, I do not want to give any guarantee about anything as an individual (imagine the server gets cracked for some reason, I do not want to be held responsible for that).' /I think you can say that you will not be responsible for anything, a sort of disclaimer. Here's a example of Ubuntu/ Canonical's website: /Disclaimer/ /This website and all information, products and services on it are provided on an ?as is? basis, without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Your use of this website is at your own risk. Canonical Ltd. disclaims all warranties, express or implied, including without limitation, warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. / /Canonical Ltd. disclaims liability for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential, exemplary, punitive or other damages, or lost profits, that may result directly or indirectly from the use of this website and any material that is downloaded or obtained through the use of this website. / /This includes, without limitation, any damage to computer systems, hardware or software, loss of data, or any other performance failures, any errors, bugs, viruses or other defects that result from, or are associated with the use of this website. / /Yes, it gives most of us a headache to read all of this, but it's important so thank you for your patience and now, enjoy the site! / / /I don't know if you are from the Dutch speaking site of Belgium...? Maybe you can give me the information and I think I can ask someone who can give a good English translation, or better, maybe there's someone on the list who can write English very well? Regards, Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Mon Mar 17 21:38:35 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:35 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DEE166.1050707@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> <1205787045.15633.19.camel@scorpion> <47DEE166.1050707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205789915.15633.27.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 22:23 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : [...] > > > > I'm not really a legal person. > What do you mean? A jurist used to write and read legal stuff. [...] > /I don't know if you are from the Dutch speaking site of Belgium...? I'm from the french speaking part. > Maybe you can give me the information and I think I can ask someone > who > can give a good English translation, or better, maybe there's someone > on > the list who can write English very well? Perhaps somebody on the list can even write something down so that we can publish the text as is? Anyone ? I have added this sentence to the registration text on ekiga.net : Ekiga.net will not make information used when subscribing available to third-parties. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dean at brettle.com Mon Mar 17 22:05:41 2008 From: dean at brettle.com (Dean Brettle) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:05:41 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1205789915.15633.27.camel@scorpion> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <1205780546.4108.11.camel@scorpion> <47DEC748.6080602@gmail.com> <1205784634.15633.3.camel@scorpion> <47DED77D.2070807@gmail.com> <1205787045.15633.19.camel@scorpion> <47DEE166.1050707@gmail.com> <1205789915.15633.27.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 22:23 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > > Perhaps somebody on the list can even write something down so that we > can publish the text as is? > You could try the free OECD privacy policy generator, or use the BBB templateor another template I found. --Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, >> V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. >> I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 >> module. Interesting. >> >> > > Compare the lsmod output on both machines. > The Module that is missing on the box that does not display the video is call what else "video". Which package in Debian testing supplies the video mod? I installed Ekiga on Edubuntu and it just worked, there are just a few issues with the disto I have to come to terms with before I switch, none of which are related to Ekiga. Paul From mike at reachme.com Mon Mar 17 22:24:04 2008 From: mike at reachme.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:24:04 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01fc01c8887d$9bccf810$cb998647@ws20031> > BBB template or another template These two look good. The OECD one is geared toward a large organization. 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If I have ekiga up on the pc and a wired headset I can sit at the pc and make and receive calls. What I'd like is to have a cordless handset to do this. The handset would ring when ekiga received a call, and I could use the keypad to make a call. I imagined the base station for the cordless handset to be connected to the pc with usb. Does this exist? sean From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 08:32:57 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? Message-ID: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> Hello, The threat attached below came up in November in the freebsd-multimedia mailing list; I encounter the same phenomenon (only noise, but no sound from Ekiga; and all other KDE apps using sound are working well) in my 6.2-RELEASE laptop; does someone know about the mentioned patch or who the maintainer of PWLIB is? thanks in advance matthias ----- Forwarded message from Matthias Apitz ----- From: Matthias Apitz Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:47:19 +0100 To: Ted Faber Cc: freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org Subject: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? Hi Ted, You wrote in freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:11:12 -0800: > In case anyone else is up nights worrying about this, I found an > uninitiailzed variable in pwlib and forwarded a patch to the > maintainer that he's committing. I've the same problem in 6.2-RELEASE with ekiga Ekiga version 2.0.11 ekiga OPAL version 2.2.8 ekiga PWLIB version 1.10.1 Could you please send me your patch to check if it is included? Thx in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html _______________________________________________ freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 18 10:10:20 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:10:20 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <47DEEE06.90009@eastlink.ca> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> <1205723583.4073.6.camel@scorpion> <47DEEE06.90009@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <1205835020.13842.8.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:17 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 20:47 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > > > >>>> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are > >>>> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? > >>> > >>> > >> Using the configuration assistant I can use the camera Microphone as the > >> audio input. The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, > >> V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. > >> I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 > >> module. Interesting. > >> > >> > > > > Compare the lsmod output on both machines. > > > The Module that is missing on the box that does not display the video is > call what else "video". > Which package in Debian testing supplies the video mod? > Perhaps the kernel package ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 18 10:14:15 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:14:15 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] usb handset: Uniden WIN1200? In-Reply-To: References: <47DE5916.2040305@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <1205835255.13842.13.camel@scorpion> Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 18:45 -0400, sean darcy a ?crit : > ael wrote: > > sean darcy wrote: > >> I'm looking for a usb cordless handset to pair with ekiga. I'd like not > >> to be tied to the pc while I talk. > > > > Why usb? Perhaps you have a modem that only has a usb connection? > > Ethernet is generally preferred, if only because of the much higher > > bandwidth. > > > > Grandstream might do one. > > > > ael > I'm not explaining this well (: > > I've got three bedrooms in the house, each of which has a pc with a > wired ethernet connection to an asterisk server. I realize I could get a > small router and a sip phone - like a Grandstream. But this seems overkill. > > If I have ekiga up on the pc and a wired headset I can sit at the pc and > make and receive calls. What I'd like is to have a cordless handset to > do this. The handset would ring when ekiga received a call, and I could > use the keypad to make a call. I imagined the base station for the > cordless handset to be connected to the pc with usb. > > Does this exist? > Yes, you have 2 options : - a LID, ie some device like a phone with a dialpad, that would control Ekiga. However, I have never tested the compatibility of such devices with Linux and/or Ekiga in general. However, our wiki has a link : http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Controling_Ekiga_using_an_USB_phone - there are also wireless headsets : http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Tested_hardware Our wiki is wonderful... Thanks Yannick! -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 18 10:17:53 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:17:53 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> Hi, Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 09:32 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > Hello, > > The threat attached below came up in November in the freebsd-multimedia > mailing list; I encounter the same phenomenon (only noise, but no sound > from Ekiga; and all other KDE apps using sound are working well) in > my 6.2-RELEASE laptop; does someone know about the mentioned patch or > who the maintainer of PWLIB is? thanks in advance I do not remember having heard of such a bug and I see no commit after the Nov 7 that could fix an uninitialized variable. If you post a patch to the Ekiga bugtracker or to the opal bugtracker, I will include it in the TRUNK if it is not already included. > ----- Forwarded message from Matthias Apitz ----- > > From: Matthias Apitz > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:47:19 +0100 > To: Ted Faber > Cc: freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? > > > Hi Ted, > > You wrote in freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 > 09:11:12 -0800: > > > In case anyone else is up nights worrying about this, I found an > > uninitiailzed variable in pwlib and forwarded a patch to the > > maintainer that he's committing. > > I've the same problem in 6.2-RELEASE with > > ekiga Ekiga version 2.0.11 > ekiga OPAL version 2.2.8 > ekiga PWLIB version 1.10.1 > > Could you please send me your patch to check if it is included? > Thx in advance > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ > b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ > Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia at freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From schoappied at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 10:40:59 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <01fc01c8887d$9bccf810$cb998647@ws20031> References: <01fc01c8887d$9bccf810$cb998647@ws20031> Message-ID: <47DF9C3B.8050208@gmail.com> Mike Fedyk wrote: > > BBB template or > another template > > These two look good. The OECD one is geared toward a large organization. > > Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Hi all, I think the one of BBB is good, but also the other templates can help. As a 'user' I like the introduction, especially the second part: /Introduction: A good privacy notice is easy to find, easy to read, and comprehensively explains all your online information practices. _It also provides online visitors an opportunity to make informed decisions about the collection and use of their information._ As part of good business practices, posting a notice is an important first step in defining your online policies and towards answering one of the major concerns (and barriers) voiced by web-users when going online. _A privacy notice is also a promise. As a promise, it is not enough to simply post such a notice. _To effectively promote trust and confidence in you and your website, the provisions of a privacy notice must also be fully implemented as part of a larger privacy policy. Careful consideration should therefore go into the creation of a notice so it accurately reflects your own unique information practices and you can guarantee a faithful adherence to its provisions. /I'd like to help making it, but I think the developers and maintainers of Ekiga should say what there policy is, cause I do not know. Maybe they can make a policy in French and I am sure that we can find someone for a good English translation. Kind regards, Dirk From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 12:53:44 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:53:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 11:17:53AM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > Hi, > > Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 09:32 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > > Hello, > > > > The threat attached below came up in November in the freebsd-multimedia > > mailing list; I encounter the same phenomenon (only noise, but no sound > > from Ekiga; and all other KDE apps using sound are working well) in > > my 6.2-RELEASE laptop; does someone know about the mentioned patch or > > who the maintainer of PWLIB is? thanks in advance > > I do not remember having heard of such a bug and I see no commit after > the Nov 7 that could fix an uninitialized variable. > > If you post a patch to the Ekiga bugtracker or to the opal bugtracker, I > will include it in the TRUNK if it is not already included. Hi Damien, It is this threat: http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the Ekiga port in FreeBSD: $ cd /usr/ports/net/ekiga $ make maintainer mi at aldan.algebra.com $ mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in advance; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From mi+kde at aldan.algebra.com Tue Mar 18 12:59:17 2008 From: mi+kde at aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:59:17 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] =?koi8-u?q?Fwd=3A_Re=3A_ekiga_fails_to_use_sound_car?= =?koi8-u?q?d=2C_other=09apps_do=2C_config_help=3F?= In-Reply-To: <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <200803180859.17870@aldan> On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: = http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 = = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: [...] = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in = advance; Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? -mi From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 14:07:46 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <200803180859.17870@aldan> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> Message-ID: <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin escribi?: > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > = > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > = > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > [...] > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > = advance; > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? Sorry Mikhail, but your addr was mentioned in the above threat; All, How could I have access to the pwlib in CVS? I followed what the page http://www.openh323.org/cvs.html says but get connection refused: $ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/openh323 login Logging in to :pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/openh323 CVS password: cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused And I'm confused; the FreeBSD ports speek about pwlib and fetches some tar file pwlib-v1_10_1-src-tar.gz , but the above www.openh323.org speeks about 'ptlib_unix', what is the relation of this? Thx in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From steve at energistic.com Tue Mar 18 14:02:41 2008 From: steve at energistic.com (Steve Ames) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:02:41 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <200803180859.17870@aldan> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> Message-ID: <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > = > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > = > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > [...] > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > = advance; > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? Sure. Mr. Faber submitted a 1 line patch that has since been committed to the pwlib port: files/patch-plugins-sound_oss-sound_oss_cxx:+ resampleRate = entry.resampleRate; -steve From steve at energistic.com Tue Mar 18 14:15:59 2008 From: steve at energistic.com (Steve Ames) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:15:59 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:07:46PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin escribi?: > > > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > = > > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > > = > > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > > [...] > > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > > = advance; > > > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? > > Sorry Mikhail, but your addr was mentioned in the above threat; > > All, > > How could I have access to the pwlib in CVS? I followed what the page > http://www.openh323.org/cvs.html says but get connection refused: openh323.org has been a dead-ish site for years. pwlib and openh323 were hosted at voxgratia for a while until the developers had a disagreement and split the projects into h323plus and opal. pwlib has been renamed ptlib in the new order. See: http://www.h323plus.org/ for the latest h323 code http://www.opalvoip.org/ for the latest opal and pwlib/ptlib Both run their CVS off sourceforge now I believe. > And I'm confused; the FreeBSD ports speek about pwlib and fetches some > tar file pwlib-v1_10_1-src-tar.gz , but the above www.openh323.org speeks about > 'ptlib_unix', what is the relation of this? FreeBSD port is currently using pwlib version 1.12.0. I believe that will be the last one actually called pwlib. It was the transition version its pwlib in someplaces and ptlib in others. However the official cut is ptlib 2.0. ptlib_unix is actually the unix based telephony library that comes in pwlib. With the transition to just being ptlib a lot of the windowing libraries got chopped out (they were never used anyway) which streamlined/focused the codebase considerably. Hope this helps the confusion a bit :) >From sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=204472 You want ptlib-v1_12_0-src.tar.gz under the bottom section (Deimos - Stable 1) Future versions of opal will use ptlib. -Steve From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 18 14:27:57 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:27:57 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> Message-ID: <1205850477.1437.2.camel@scorpion> Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 10:02 -0400, Steve Ames a ?crit : > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > = > > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > > = > > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > > [...] > > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > > = advance; > > > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? > > Sure. Mr. Faber submitted a 1 line patch that has since been committed to > the pwlib port: > > files/patch-plugins-sound_oss-sound_oss_cxx:+ resampleRate = entry.resampleRate; > This patch had been applied from what I can see in the source code. However, Matthias, it is an OSS patch, and you must be using ALSA as you are on Linux. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Tue Mar 18 14:37:53 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:37:53 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47DF9C3B.8050208@gmail.com> References: <01fc01c8887d$9bccf810$cb998647@ws20031> <47DF9C3B.8050208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205851073.1437.10.camel@scorpion> Hello, Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 11:40 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > BBB template or > > another template > > > > These two look good. The OECD one is geared toward a large organization. > > > > Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > Hi all, > > I think the one of BBB is good, but also the other templates can help. > As a 'user' I like the introduction, especially the second part: > > /Introduction: > A good privacy notice is easy to find, easy to read, and comprehensively > explains all your online information practices. _It also provides online > visitors an opportunity to make informed decisions about the collection > and use of their information._ As part of good business practices, > posting a notice is an important first step in defining your online > policies and towards answering one of the major concerns (and barriers) > voiced by web-users when going online. > > _A privacy notice is also a promise. As a promise, it is not enough to > simply post such a notice. _To effectively promote trust and confidence > in you and your website, the provisions of a privacy notice must also be > fully implemented as part of a larger privacy policy. Careful > consideration should therefore go into the creation of a notice so it > accurately reflects your own unique information practices and you can > guarantee a faithful adherence to its provisions. > > > /I'd like to help making it, but I think the developers and maintainers > of Ekiga should say what there policy is, cause I do not know. Maybe > they can make a policy in French and I am sure that we can find someone > for a good English translation. I do not have the time to write a policy right now. As I said, it is a time-consuming and boring thing to do. Moreover, we are jurists, so it makes things even more complex. However, I added a sentence in the "terms and conditions" text provided by our signup interface. 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USER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT HAS READ THIS AGREEMENT, UNDERSTANDS IT, AND AGREES THAT IT IS THE COMPLETE AND EXCLUSIVE STATEMENT OF THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT BETWEEN COMPANY AND ekiga.net WITH RESPECT TO THE SUBJECT MATTER HEREIN, AND SUPERSEDES ALL PRIOR AND CONTEMPORANEOUS PROPOSALS, DISCUSSIONS, AGREEMENTS, UNDERSTANDINGS, AND COMMUNICATIONS, WHETHER WRITTEN OR ORAL AND MAY BE AMENDED ONLY IN A WRITING EXECUTED BY BOTH USER AND ekiga.net. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 14:50:12 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:50:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <1205850477.1437.2.camel@scorpion> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> <1205850477.1437.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080318145012.GA17907@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 03:27:57PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 10:02 -0400, Steve Ames a ?crit : > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > = > > > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > > > = > > > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > > > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > > > [...] > > > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > > > = advance; > > > > > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > > > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? > > > > Sure. Mr. Faber submitted a 1 line patch that has since been committed to > > the pwlib port: > > > > files/patch-plugins-sound_oss-sound_oss_cxx:+ resampleRate = entry.resampleRate; > > > > This patch had been applied from what I can see in the source code. > > However, Matthias, it is an OSS patch, and you must be using ALSA as you > are on Linux. (I've droped Steve and Mikhail from threat). I'm not on Linux, but on FreeBSD. I've aplied this patch by hand in the file pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx and now the sound is fine; eikga connects to my Sony VX700 with h323:10.0.1.40 and I can hear the RING tones and what goes in into the micro of the VX700 comes out of my laptop (have no micro and no cam attached to my laptop at the moment); thx; matthias PS: I'm just waiting for the ordered web cam suported my V4L :-) -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 15:36:20 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:36:20 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> Message-ID: <20080318153620.GA18880@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 10:02:41AM -0400, Steve Ames escribi?: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:59:17AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > On ???????? 18 ???????? 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > = > > http://groups.google.com/group/bsdmailinglist/browse_frm/thread/4cfaad37e0dded68/28227b15e1fada84 > > = > > = and it _could_ be that the patch was mailed to the maintainer of the > > = Ekiga port in FreeBSD: > > [...] > > = mi at aldan.algebra.com, could you please comment on this? Thanks in > > = advance; > > > > Although I do maintain the Ekiga port, the patch mentioned at that link is for > > pwlib, which is maintained by Steve (CC-ed)... Steve? > > Sure. Mr. Faber submitted a 1 line patch that has since been committed to > the pwlib port: > > files/patch-plugins-sound_oss-sound_oss_cxx:+ resampleRate = entry.resampleRate; > > -steve Thanks, Steve. I've had to apply this patch by hand to the port version included in FreeBSD 6.2R (pwlib-1.10.1_2,1): # diff -c sound_oss.cxx.orig sound_oss.cxx *** sound_oss.cxx.orig Tue Mar 18 15:24:54 2008 --- sound_oss.cxx Tue Mar 18 15:25:06 2008 *************** *** 642,647 **** --- 642,648 ---- arg = val = (entry.numChannels == 2) ? 1 : 0; if (ConvertOSError(::ioctl(os_handle, SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO, &arg)) || (arg != val)) { + resampleRate = entry.resampleRate; mSampleRate = entry.sampleRate; arg = val = entry.sampleRate; if (ConvertOSError(::ioctl(os_handle, SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED, &arg))) { It really solves the problem and makes 'ekiga' useable for me for the 1st time. Thanks again matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 16:15:13 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:15:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <200803181206.46852.mteterin@mlp.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> <20080318153620.GA18880@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803181206.46852.mteterin@mlp.com> Message-ID: <20080318161513.GA19734@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 12:06:46PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin escribi?: > ???????? 18 ???????? 2008 11:36 ??, Matthias Apitz ?? ????????: > > Thanks, Steve. I've had to apply this patch by hand to the port version > > included in FreeBSD 6.2R (pwlib-1.10.1_2,1) [...] > > Hi, Matthias! The FreeBSD ports are meant to be updated regularly. You don't > have to do this every day, if you wish to stay conservative, but you should > certainly update to the version released with the most recent OS release > (such as 7.0) -- even if you don't plan to update the base system. > > See: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html > > for more. Yours, Hi Mikhail, In principle I know this, but it is my daily-work-laptop and I can't live without having all functional and stable; so I can't on this machine update with 'portsnap'; I've already prepared a test server with all my needed ports (some 200) based on FreeBSD 7.0R, on which by the way 5 of 'my' ports did not even compiled as installed from the disks to /usr/ports and I've had todo 'portsnap' before running through them; if all goes well I will switch my business laptop to 7.0R the upcoming long weekend (Eastern/Pascua). Thanks for your help and feedback anyway matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 18 16:32:10 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:10 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <200803181219.56069.mteterin@mlp.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803181206.46852.mteterin@mlp.com> <20080318161513.GA19734@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803181219.56069.mteterin@mlp.com> Message-ID: <20080318163210.GA20170@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 12:19:54PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin escribi?: > ???????? 18 ???????? 2008 12:15 ??, Matthias Apitz ?? ????????: > > In principle I know this, but it is my daily-work-laptop and I can't > > live without having all functional and stable; so I can't on this > > machine update with 'portsnap' > > Well, you should definitely try doing that before asking for help :-) Well, I did this before asking for help. I've updated the ekiga, opal and pwlib ports before, but pwlib not even compiled, which perhaps has todo with missing autoconf-2.61 and this was depending on more recent perl, ... versions; so at the end I only wanted to get this small patch of one line mentioned in Google by Ted Farber; Was this to mutch help I was asking for after trying many hours to solve this by my own? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From mteterin at mlp.com Tue Mar 18 16:06:46 2008 From: mteterin at mlp.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318153620.GA18880@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080318140240.GA98188@energistic.com> <20080318153620.GA18880@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <200803181206.46852.mteterin@mlp.com> ???????? 18 ???????? 2008 11:36 ??, Matthias Apitz ?? ????????: > Thanks, Steve. I've had to apply this patch by hand to the port version > included in FreeBSD 6.2R (pwlib-1.10.1_2,1) [...] Hi, Matthias! The FreeBSD ports are meant to be updated regularly. You don't have to do this every day, if you wish to stay conservative, but you should certainly update to the version released with the most recent OS release (such as 7.0) -- even if you don't plan to update the base system. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html for more. Yours, -mi ###################################################################### The information contained in this communication is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not a named addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. If you have received this communication, and are not a named recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. ###################################################################### From mteterin at mlp.com Tue Mar 18 16:19:54 2008 From: mteterin at mlp.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:19:54 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318161513.GA19734@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803181206.46852.mteterin@mlp.com> <20080318161513.GA19734@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <200803181219.56069.mteterin@mlp.com> ???????? 18 ???????? 2008 12:15 ??, Matthias Apitz ?? ????????: > In principle I know this, but it is my daily-work-laptop and I can't > live without having all functional and stable; so I can't on this > machine update with 'portsnap' Well, you should definitely try doing that before asking for help :-) Updating your ports tree does not automaticaly change your installed applications, but simply knowing, that the port you are having a problem with has been upgraded since you installed it, is a hint, the problem is already solved ;-) Good luck! Yours, -mi ###################################################################### The information contained in this communication is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not a named addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. If you have received this communication, and are not a named recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. ###################################################################### From mi+mill at aldan.algebra.com Tue Mar 18 16:40:59 2008 From: mi+mill at aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:40:59 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other?apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318163210.GA20170@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803181219.56069.mteterin@mlp.com> <20080318163210.GA20170@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <200803181240.59989.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> ???????? 18 ???????? 2008 12:32 ??, Matthias Apitz ?? ????????: > Was this to mutch help I was asking for after trying many hours to solve > this by my own? Matthias, I'm not blaming you for asking for help! There is not problem with asking -- and one should do it as soon as they feel lost. I was just suggesting, what one can do on their own -- while the people he asked are researching the problem and typing their responses :-) Yours, -mi From zacharotto at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 17:06:40 2008 From: zacharotto at gmail.com (Zachary Schenkler) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:06:40 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] unsubscribe Message-ID: <5d7eb54e0803181006n2328c491pfbfee0fac63cf046@mail.gmail.com> -- Zachary Schenkler Co-Founder & President Ojeez.com zach at ojeez.com cell: 914-806-4765 Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it. -- Buddha. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.stammler at freenet.de Tue Mar 18 22:32:46 2008 From: a.stammler at freenet.de (a.stammler at freenet.de) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:32:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Microphone can only be opened by using a different program Message-ID: Hi, When Ekiga starts, my microphone sound is not received by Ekiga (as shown by the meter in the Audio tab and also by the silence returned by echo test calls) even though I can hear it on my loudspeakers. Both volume switches are at zero and cannot be moved (they jump back to zero). I need to start another program like Audacity (without closing Ekiga) and fiddle around with the input settings there a little --- then suddenly everythings works in Ekiga, i.e. I can set the levels for the microphone and the output, and the sound coming from the microphone is now suddenly represented in the level meter. (Nothing has changed audibly, though --- I could hear everything well in the first place and the sound is still there.) I seem to remember reading something like "Ekiga cannot set the audio levels on start-up" when I installed Ekiga but I cannot find any setting in the configuration that would change anything. I have looked at the FAQ and searched the list archives but I seem to be the only one with this problem. I have never had any problems with my sound input, though, and I often record and play things. Hope anyone can help. Axel From craigs at postincrement.com Tue Mar 18 23:22:31 2008 From: craigs at postincrement.com (Craig Southeren) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:22:31 +1100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> Message-ID: <47E04EB7.1060803@postincrement.com> Steve Ames wrote: ..deleted >> How could I have access to the pwlib in CVS? I followed what the page >> http://www.openh323.org/cvs.html says but get connection refused: > > openh323.org has been a dead-ish site for years. pwlib and openh323 were > hosted at voxgratia for a while until the developers had a disagreement > and split the projects into h323plus and opal. pwlib has been renamed > ptlib in the new order. > > See: http://www.h323plus.org/ for the latest h323 code > http://www.opalvoip.org/ for the latest opal and pwlib/ptlib > > Both run their CVS off sourceforge now I believe. I would like to add some clarification to the above. :) openh323.org is indeed dead, and has been for many years. voxgratia.org was the home of both the Opal and OpenH323 projects for several years while certain issues were being resolved. During that time, the founders of OpenH323 were able to move their focus to OPAL. We were finally able to move OPAL into it's own project at openvoip.org late last year. As part of that move, pwlib was renamed ptlib and the OPAL source was migrated from CVS to Subversion. Some of the people who are passionate about OpenH323 wanted to keep it alive, and chose to do so at h323plus.org. As far as I know, there is no disagreement - they still uses the ptlib from OPAL. Everyone is welcome to come join us at opalvoip.org :) Craig ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Southeren Post Increment ? VoIP Consulting and Software craigs at postincrement.com.au www.postincrement.com.au Phone: +61 243654666 ICQ: #86852844 Fax: +61 243656905 MSN: craig_southeren at hotmail.com Mobile: +61 417231046 Jabber: craigs at jabber.org "Science is the poetry of reality." Richard Dawkins From edunagin at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 23:41:37 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:41:37 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Microphone can only be opened by using a different program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af451740803181641w6d025d5fpf4f389bd986383df@mail.gmail.com> I have some similar problems. On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:32 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > When Ekiga starts, my microphone sound is not received by Ekiga (as shown > by the meter in the Audio tab and also by the silence returned by echo > test calls) even though I can hear it on my loudspeakers. Both volume > switches are at zero and cannot be moved (they jump back to zero). I have found that on my system, if I happen to have PulseAudio running and try starting Ekiga, I have no sound uptill I kill PA. Also my switches will not move, jump back, until i call 500 for a test. Then they work fine. Also I have noticed that when I and start Ekiga and it does not come up and appears, from looking at the terminal, that it has not come up, BUT if I look at the process, I find it is showing a process, but no GUI. I then kill that process and Ekiga will then come up ok with it's GUI. ***************snip************************* Peace........................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Wed Mar 19 02:28:12 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:28:12 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <1205835020.13842.8.camel@scorpion> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> <1205723583.4073.6.camel@scorpion> <47DEEE06.90009@eastlink.ca> <1205835020.13842.8.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47E07A3C.4040002@eastlink.ca> Damien Sandras wrote: > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:17 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > >> Damien Sandras wrote: >> >>> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 20:47 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : >>> >>> >>>>>> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are >>>>>> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Using the configuration assistant I can use the camera Microphone as the >>>> audio input. The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, >>>> V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. >>>> I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 >>>> module. Interesting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Compare the lsmod output on both machines. >>> >>> >> The Module that is missing on the box that does not display the video is >> call what else "video". >> Which package in Debian testing supplies the video mod? >> >> > > Perhaps the kernel package ? > Modprobe video got the video mod loaded camera still not found paul From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 08:18:12 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:18:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> Message-ID: <20080319081811.GA1491@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 18, 2008 a las 10:15:59AM -0400, Steve Ames escribi?: > > How could I have access to the pwlib in CVS? I followed what the page > > http://www.openh323.org/cvs.html says but get connection refused: > > openh323.org has been a dead-ish site for years. pwlib and openh323 were > hosted at voxgratia for a while until the developers had a disagreement > and split the projects into h323plus and opal. pwlib has been renamed > ptlib in the new order. > > See: http://www.h323plus.org/ for the latest h323 code > http://www.opalvoip.org/ for the latest opal and pwlib/ptlib > > Both run their CVS off sourceforge now I believe. > > > And I'm confused; the FreeBSD ports speek about pwlib and fetches some > > tar file pwlib-v1_10_1-src-tar.gz , but the above www.openh323.org speeks about > > 'ptlib_unix', what is the relation of this? > > FreeBSD port is currently using pwlib version 1.12.0. I believe that will be > the last one actually called pwlib. It was the transition version its pwlib > in someplaces and ptlib in others. However the official cut is ptlib 2.0. > > ptlib_unix is actually the unix based telephony library that comes in pwlib. > With the transition to just being ptlib a lot of the windowing libraries > got chopped out (they were never used anyway) which streamlined/focused the > codebase considerably. > > Hope this helps the confusion a bit :) Hi Steve, Thanks for the explanation, now I have some light in that jungle :-) maybe it's woth to correct in that case the file pkg-descr of /usr/ports/devel/pwlib which still points (and made me going there) to http://www.openh323.org/ Thx again matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 09:52:05 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:52:05 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD Message-ID: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> Hello, I've got finally my cam and it attaches fine on USB to the driver: Mar 19 10:31:28 rebelion kernel: pwc0: vendor 0x0471 product 0x0329, rev 1.10/0.03, addr 2 Mar 19 10:31:29 rebelion kernel: pwc0: Philips SPC900NC USB webcam Mar 19 10:31:29 rebelion kernel: pwc0: This camera is equipped with a Sony CCD sensor + TDA8787 (32 the user land application 'pwcview' works fine as well; Ekiga says on start: ... 2008/03/19 10:37:09.739 0:00.414 ekiga Detected the following video input devices: No device found with plugin V4L when I use gconf-editor to set the video device for the application to /dev/video0, Ekiga detects this as: 2008/03/19 10:37:38.369 0:29.044 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 2008/03/19 10:37:38.528 0:29.203 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 2008/03/19 10:37:38.543 0:29.218 GMVideoGrabber:08580000 VideoGrabber cannot do memory mapping - GMBUF failed. and all is working fine in a video conference; but when I restart ekiga it looses the device and I have to re-insert it with gconf-editor; any hints about this? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 09:52:31 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:52:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Panasonic PV-GS320 In-Reply-To: <47E07A3C.4040002@eastlink.ca> References: <47DD4C87.5070703@eastlink.ca> <2af451740803160945yb8193c5xe3a19291c4efd8cd@mail.gmail.com> <47DD590F.6090501@eastlink.ca> <1205689625.19476.0.camel@scorpion> <47DDB181.70909@eastlink.ca> <1205723583.4073.6.camel@scorpion> <47DEEE06.90009@eastlink.ca> <1205835020.13842.8.camel@scorpion> <47E07A3C.4040002@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <1205920351.4143.3.camel@scorpion> Le mardi 18 mars 2008 ? 23:28 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le lundi 17 mars 2008 ? 19:17 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > > > >> Damien Sandras wrote: > >> > >>> Le dimanche 16 mars 2008 ? 20:47 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> Part is not working, the audio input DVC, the camera, Video plugins are > >>>>>> V4L, V4L2 neither can find the camera. Do you have any other installed? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Is the linux driver loaded for your camera? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Using the configuration assistant I can use the camera Microphone as the > >>>> audio input. The next step is the video input, choices are pictures, > >>>> V4l, V4l2 or 1394avc, but none find the camera. I have the V4L2 loaded. > >>>> I tried the camera on an Edubuntu 7.10 amd64 it worked with the V4L2 > >>>> module. Interesting. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Compare the lsmod output on both machines. > >>> > >>> > >> The Module that is missing on the box that does not display the video is > >> call what else "video". > >> Which package in Debian testing supplies the video mod? > >> > >> > > > > Perhaps the kernel package ? > > > Modprobe video got the video mod loaded camera still not found It is probably a permission problem in that case. Probably you should ask your question on a mailing list dedicated to that distribution ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 10:29:25 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:29:25 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 10:52 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > Hello, > > I've got finally my cam and it attaches fine on USB to the driver: > > Mar 19 10:31:28 rebelion kernel: pwc0: vendor 0x0471 product 0x0329, rev 1.10/0.03, addr 2 > Mar 19 10:31:29 rebelion kernel: pwc0: Philips SPC900NC USB webcam > Mar 19 10:31:29 rebelion kernel: pwc0: This camera is equipped with a Sony CCD sensor + TDA8787 (32 > > the user land application 'pwcview' works fine as well; > > Ekiga says on start: > ... > 2008/03/19 10:37:09.739 0:00.414 ekiga Detected the following video input devices: No device found with plugin V4L > > when I use gconf-editor to set the video device for the application to > /dev/video0, Ekiga detects this as: > > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.369 0:29.044 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.528 0:29.203 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.543 0:29.218 GMVideoGrabber:08580000 VideoGrabber cannot do memory mapping - GMBUF failed. > > and all is working fine in a video conference; but when I restart ekiga > it looses the device and I have to re-insert it with gconf-editor; > > any hints about this? Probably a bug in the driver. Why doesn't it detect the device ? It works fine on linux... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jacques at lavignotte.org Wed Mar 19 10:34:28 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:34:28 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [SHORT TEST] (again) Message-ID: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> Hello, If you believe your Ekiga is working well, please give a try at sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> for a short ( one minute) audio test only. Thanks in advance, Jacques -- To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org From michel.memeteau at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 10:37:48 2008 From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:37:48 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [SHORT TEST] (again) In-Reply-To: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> References: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:34 AM, jacques wrote: > Hello, > > If you believe your Ekiga is working well, > please give a try at sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> > > for a short ( one minute) audio test only. Sorry jacques , Ekiga SVN was not really working for me on Gutsy so i could not call you the other night. Is it possible to test vid?o as well ? mIt the major feature I'd like to test. Do you have a Jabber adress ? 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URL: From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 10:48:00 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:48:00 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 11:29:25AM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > /dev/video0, Ekiga detects this as: > > > > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.369 0:29.044 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 > > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.528 0:29.203 ekiga PVideoInputDevice_V4L: GetFrameSizeLimits. 160x120 -- 640x480 > > 2008/03/19 10:37:38.543 0:29.218 GMVideoGrabber:08580000 VideoGrabber cannot do memory mapping - GMBUF failed. > > > > and all is working fine in a video conference; but when I restart ekiga > > it looses the device and I have to re-insert it with gconf-editor; > > > > any hints about this? > > Probably a bug in the driver. Why doesn't it detect the device ? > It works fine on linux... What is on Linux the major and minor number of the device file for the cam? on FreeBSD it is: $ ls -l /dev/video0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 146 19 mar 09:02 /dev/video0 it seems that the algorithm in vidinput_v4l.cxx depends on minor numbers below 63 in void V4LNames::ReadDeviceDirectory() see also the CVS comment: * Revision 1.3 2003/11/25 22:55:13 dsandras * Added fallback using major and minor numbers for detection of devices * when /proc/video doesn't exist (some 2.4 kernels and all 2.6 kernels). matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 12:09:46 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:09:46 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 11:48:00AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribi?: > What is on Linux the major and minor number of the device file for the > cam? on FreeBSD it is: > > $ ls -l /dev/video0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 146 19 mar 09:02 /dev/video0 > > it seems that the algorithm in vidinput_v4l.cxx depends on minor > numbers below 63 in void V4LNames::ReadDeviceDirectory() > > see also the CVS comment: > > * Revision 1.3 2003/11/25 22:55:13 dsandras > * Added fallback using major and minor numbers for detection of devices > * when /proc/video doesn't exist > (some 2.4 kernels and all 2.6 kernels). Yes, it is an issue of major/minor numbers which are diffrent in Linux and FreeBSD vor the cam; with this small change: # pwd /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/vidinput_v4l # diff vidinput_v4l.cxx* 462,464c462 < // static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; < // for FreeBSD's pwc driver the major number is 0 and minor is 146 < static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 0 }; --- > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; 468,469c466 < // if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { < if (num <= 146 && num >= 146) { --- > if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { the driver attaches without any problem; to whom to talk about get this integrated into pwlib? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 12:51:45 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:51:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1205931105.4235.4.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 13:09 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 11:48:00AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribi?: > > > What is on Linux the major and minor number of the device file for the > > cam? on FreeBSD it is: > > > > $ ls -l /dev/video0 > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 146 19 mar 09:02 /dev/video0 > > > > it seems that the algorithm in vidinput_v4l.cxx depends on minor > > numbers below 63 in void V4LNames::ReadDeviceDirectory() > > > > see also the CVS comment: > > > > * Revision 1.3 2003/11/25 22:55:13 dsandras > > * Added fallback using major and minor numbers for detection of devices > > * when /proc/video doesn't exist > > (some 2.4 kernels and all 2.6 kernels). > > Yes, it is an issue of major/minor numbers which are diffrent in Linux > and FreeBSD vor the cam; with this small change: > > # pwd > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/vidinput_v4l > # diff vidinput_v4l.cxx* > 462,464c462 > < // static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > < // for FreeBSD's pwc driver the major number is 0 and minor is 146 > < static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 0 }; > --- > > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > 468,469c466 > < // if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > < if (num <= 146 && num >= 146) { > --- > > if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > the driver attaches without any problem; to whom to talk about get this > integrated into pwlib? Mail me the patch, I will commit it to trunk. Isn't the patch also needed for vidinput_v4l2 ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 13:11:13 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:11:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1205931105.4235.4.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205931105.4235.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080319131113.GA26383@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 01:51:45PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 13:09 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 11:48:00AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribi?: > > > > > What is on Linux the major and minor number of the device file for the > > > cam? on FreeBSD it is: > > > > > > $ ls -l /dev/video0 > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 146 19 mar 09:02 /dev/video0 > > > > > > it seems that the algorithm in vidinput_v4l.cxx depends on minor > > > numbers below 63 in void V4LNames::ReadDeviceDirectory() > > > > > > see also the CVS comment: > > > > > > * Revision 1.3 2003/11/25 22:55:13 dsandras > > > * Added fallback using major and minor numbers for detection of devices > > > * when /proc/video doesn't exist > > > (some 2.4 kernels and all 2.6 kernels). > > > > Yes, it is an issue of major/minor numbers which are diffrent in Linux > > and FreeBSD vor the cam; with this small change: > > > > # pwd > > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/vidinput_v4l > > # diff vidinput_v4l.cxx* > > 462,464c462 > > < // static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > > < // for FreeBSD's pwc driver the major number is 0 and minor is 146 > > < static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 0 }; > > --- > > > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > > 468,469c466 > > < // if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > < if (num <= 146 && num >= 146) { > > --- > > > if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > > > the driver attaches without any problem; to whom to talk about get this > > integrated into pwlib? > > Mail me the patch, I will commit it to trunk. > Isn't the patch also needed for vidinput_v4l2 ? Yes, the same hardcode major/minor number is in vidinput_names.cxx for vidinput_v4l2; concerning a patch, I can't provide a common solution which works on Linux and FreeBSD because I'm not a C++ programmer; I only could hack the code as shown above so that it will work in FreeBSD; maybe Steve should just put this into a patch file for the /usr/ports/devel/pwlib in the FreeBSD ports tree; Steve? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From steve at energistic.com Wed Mar 19 13:49:16 2008 From: steve at energistic.com (Steve Ames) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Fwd: Re: ekiga fails to use sound card, other apps do, config help? In-Reply-To: <20080319081811.GA1491@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080318083256.GA4159@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205835473.13842.18.camel@scorpion> <20080318125344.GA2702@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200803180859.17870@aldan> <20080318140746.GA8717@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080318141558.GA55597@energistic.com> <20080319081811.GA1491@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080319134916.GA39803@energistic.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:18:12AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > maybe it's woth to correct in that case the file pkg-descr of > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib which still points (and made me going there) to > http://www.openh323.org/ Probably. I've never even looked at that file since I picked up maintainership. Heh. -Steve From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 13:54:59 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:54:59 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed Message-ID: Is it possible there is a mixup in version numbers? I installed Gnome Slackbuild on a Slackware 12.0 box, and this is clearly identified as 2.0.11. I also tried the Windows version that was 2.0.11. The Windows version was from Ekiga site today, 10 Mar 2008. The bugs listed as fixed in 2.0.11 appear to be still present. For instance, ------------- 1. Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. I get assertion errors: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. --------------- 2. Windows XP version 5.1.2600, different computer. I get the "Error installing GTK+ runtime" that was supposedly fixed in 2.0.11. --------------- Looks like a great program, but have had little to no success getting this to actually work yet on Windows, Linux or FreeBSD. The light at the end of the tunnel looks bright though. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 13:59:00 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:59:00 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 13:54 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > Is it possible there is a mixup in version numbers? I installed > Gnome Slackbuild on a Slackware 12.0 box, and this is clearly > identified as 2.0.11. I also tried the Windows version that was > 2.0.11. The Windows version was from Ekiga site today, 10 Mar > 2008. The bugs listed as fixed in 2.0.11 appear to be still > present. For instance, > > ------------- > > 1. > Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. > I get assertion errors: > > sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed > > I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA > mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works > great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this > assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks > like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors > in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything about it. > --------------- > 2. Windows XP version 5.1.2600, different computer. > I get the "Error installing GTK+ runtime" that was > supposedly fixed in 2.0.11. > I do not know about that one. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:06:00 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:06:00 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: > > 1. > > Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. > > I get assertion errors: > > > > sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed > > > > I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA > > mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works > > great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this > > assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks > > like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors > > in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. > > This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything about > it. Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? Dee _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at energistic.com Wed Mar 19 13:58:10 2008 From: steve at energistic.com (Steve Ames) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:58:10 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 01:09:46PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Yes, it is an issue of major/minor numbers which are diffrent in Linux > and FreeBSD vor the cam; with this small change: > > # pwd > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/vidinput_v4l > # diff vidinput_v4l.cxx* > 462,464c462 > < // static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > < // for FreeBSD's pwc driver the major number is 0 and minor is 146 > < static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 0 }; > --- > > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > 468,469c466 > < // if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > < if (num <= 146 && num >= 146) { > --- > > if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > the driver attaches without any problem; to whom to talk about get this > integrated into pwlib? The following patch exists in the freebsd port, does it already address this issue? --- plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx.orig Wed Jan 3 23:37:37 2007 +++ plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx Wed Feb 7 01:30:50 2007 @@ -484,6 +484,15 @@ struct stat s; if (lstat(devname, &s) == 0) { +#if defined(P_FREEBSD) + // device numbers are irrelevant here, so we match on names instead. + if (filename.GetLength() <= 5 || filename.Left(5) != "video") + continue; + int num = atoi(filename.Mid(6)); + if (num < 0 || num > 63) + continue; + vid.SetAt(num, devname); +#else static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; for (PINDEX i = 0; i < PARRAYSIZE(deviceNumbers); i++) { if (MAJOR(s.st_rdev) == deviceNumbers[i]) { @@ -493,6 +502,7 @@ } } } +#endif } } } From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 14:13:26 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:13:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 14:06 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > > > 1. > > > Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. > > > I get assertion errors: > > > > > > sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed > > > > > > I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA > > > mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works > > > great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this > > > assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks > > > like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors > > > in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. > > > > This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything > about > > it. > > Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under > Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? > See this : https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 There are alsa patches. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:21:01 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:21:01 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: > > > This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything > > about > > > it. > > > > Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under > > Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? > > > > See this : > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > There are alsa patches. > -- > _ Damien Sandras I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did not fix this unfortunately. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 14:23:31 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:23:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 14:21 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > > This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do > anything > > > about > > > > it. > > > > > > Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga > under > > > Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? > > > > > > > See this : > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > > > There are alsa patches. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > > I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did > not > fix this unfortunately. You should probably add a comment on their bugtracker in that case. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:25:35 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:25:35 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803190725v7e8456do8bfcd1fa4f7bc034@mail.gmail.com> Hello Dee, On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:21 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything > > > about > > > > it. > > > > > > Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under > > > Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? > > > > > > > See this : > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > > > There are alsa patches. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > > I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did not > fix this unfortunately. > I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11 which is Linux and all works fine. I do have some problems with sound breaking up but it works. Peace....................ed Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:26:49 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:26:49 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: > > > See this : > > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > > > > > There are alsa patches. > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > > > I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did > > not > > fix this unfortunately. > > You should probably add a comment on their bugtracker in that case. > -- > _ Damien Sandras Great idea. Please note I submitted this bug report to ALSA: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 Dee _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:31:34 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:31:34 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <2af451740803190725v7e8456do8bfcd1fa4f7bc034@mail.gmail.com> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190725v7e8456do8bfcd1fa4f7bc034@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11 > which is Linux and all works fine. I do have some problems with sound > breaking up but it works. > > Peace....................ed > > Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Excellent! I can see Ekiga is almost working on my Slackware box. It looks to work fine until it crashes due to this assert bug. Could you please offer a few details? For instance, which kernel and are you using ALSA (version?) or some other? What audio hardware? Along these lines I am about to buy a notebook, and would be inclined to go for hardware that others have used Ekiga with success. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 14:38:06 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:38:06 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 14:26 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > > See this : > > > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > > > > > > > There are alsa patches. > > > > -- > > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > > > > > > I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. > Did > > > not > > > fix this unfortunately. > > > > You should probably add a comment on their bugtracker in that case. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > Great idea. Please note I submitted this bug report to ALSA: > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 > Excellent, please add a link to : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552 And tell them that we have many many duplicates. Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 14:49:19 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:49:19 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190725v7e8456do8bfcd1fa4f7bc034@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af451740803190749yc5b8e5fx1fa1b62b3bd3b1a5@mail.gmail.com> Dee, On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:31 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11 > > which is Linux and all works fine. I do have some problems with sound > > breaking up but it works. > > > > Peace....................ed > > > > Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan > > Excellent! I can see Ekiga is almost working on my Slackware box. It looks > to > work fine until it crashes due to this assert bug. Could you please offer a > few > details? For instance, which kernel and are you using ALSA (version?) or > some > other? What audio hardware? > > Along these lines I am about to buy a notebook, and would be inclined to go > for hardware that others have used Ekiga with success. > I running a desktop p-4 with 1gb of ram, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic. gstreamer 0.10 Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 15:02:59 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:02:59 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 14:26 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > > > > See this : > > > > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > > > > > > > > > There are alsa patches. > > > > > -- > > > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > > > > > > > > > I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. > > Did > > > > not > > > > fix this unfortunately. > > > > > > You should probably add a comment on their bugtracker in that case. > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > Great idea. Please note I submitted this bug report to ALSA: > > > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 > > > > Excellent, please add a link to : > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552 > > And tell them that we have many many duplicates. > > Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? > Sorry to but in, when I use Pulseaudio ekiga sound will not work. I kill pulseaudio and ekiga works ok. I do get these errors: edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga & [1] 7602 edunagin at HighNet4:~$ (ekiga:7602): Gnome-WARNING **: invalid gnome config path '=/section/key' (ekiga:7602): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.14.1/gobject/gsignal.c:1019: unable to lookup signal "show" of unloaded type `GtkMessageDialog' (ekiga:7602): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_add_emission_hook: assertion `signal_id > 0' failed but Ekiga comes up and works. Hope this helps...................ed > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 15:29:05 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:29:05 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: >> I submitted this bug report to ALSA: > > > > https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 > > > Excellent, please add a link to : > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552 > > And tell them that we have many many duplicates. Done: 0018447 > Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? > -- > _ Damien Sandras I am pretty sure, yes. I took no specific action to add or remove it. I just installed Linux Slackware 12.0 straight off the DVD without any custom settings. I saw a message about pulseaudio during bootup. Could you imagine removing it might help? If so, I would welcome tips on how. Dominic _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? Dee _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 19 16:11:13 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:11:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> Message-ID: <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 09:58:10AM -0400, Steve Ames escribi?: > The following patch exists in the freebsd port, does it already > address this issue? > > > --- plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx.orig Wed Jan 3 23:37:37 2007 > +++ plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx Wed Feb 7 01:30:50 2007 > @@ -484,6 +484,15 @@ > struct stat s; > if (lstat(devname, &s) == 0) { > > +#if defined(P_FREEBSD) > + // device numbers are irrelevant here, so we match on names instead. > + if (filename.GetLength() <= 5 || filename.Left(5) != "video") > + continue; > + int num = atoi(filename.Mid(6)); > + if (num < 0 || num > 63) > + continue; > + vid.SetAt(num, devname); > +#else > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > for (PINDEX i = 0; i < PARRAYSIZE(deviceNumbers); i++) { > if (MAJOR(s.st_rdev) == deviceNumbers[i]) { > @@ -493,6 +502,7 @@ > } > } > } > +#endif > } > } > } Yes, I've tried this patch in the source and it picks up the /dev/video0 file as well; now I've the next problem: when I make a call h323:10.0.1.40 to the VX700 where I'm sitting with my laptop in front of, I can see in Ekiga the local picture from my cam and the picture grabed by the cam of the VX700 in side-by-side view mode, but the TV the VX700 is connected to only shows the name of the session and the rest is dark; I have a -d3 output if this would be helpfull for you, Damien; thx for any hint; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 16:23:12 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:23:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319131113.GA26383@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205931105.4235.4.camel@scorpion> <20080319131113.GA26383@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1205943792.32728.18.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 14:11 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 01:51:45PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > > > Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 13:09 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > > > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 11:48:00AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribi?: > > > > > > > What is on Linux the major and minor number of the device file for the > > > > cam? on FreeBSD it is: > > > > > > > > $ ls -l /dev/video0 > > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 0, 146 19 mar 09:02 /dev/video0 > > > > > > > > it seems that the algorithm in vidinput_v4l.cxx depends on minor > > > > numbers below 63 in void V4LNames::ReadDeviceDirectory() > > > > > > > > see also the CVS comment: > > > > > > > > * Revision 1.3 2003/11/25 22:55:13 dsandras > > > > * Added fallback using major and minor numbers for detection of devices > > > > * when /proc/video doesn't exist > > > > (some 2.4 kernels and all 2.6 kernels). > > > > > > Yes, it is an issue of major/minor numbers which are diffrent in Linux > > > and FreeBSD vor the cam; with this small change: > > > > > > # pwd > > > /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib_Phobos_release2/plugins/vidinput_v4l > > > # diff vidinput_v4l.cxx* > > > 462,464c462 > > > < // static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > > > < // for FreeBSD's pwc driver the major number is 0 and minor is 146 > > > < static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 0 }; > > > --- > > > > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > > > 468,469c466 > > > < // if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > > < if (num <= 146 && num >= 146) { > > > --- > > > > if (num <= 63 && num >= 0) { > > > > > > the driver attaches without any problem; to whom to talk about get this > > > integrated into pwlib? > > > > Mail me the patch, I will commit it to trunk. > > Isn't the patch also needed for vidinput_v4l2 ? > > Yes, the same hardcode major/minor number is in vidinput_names.cxx for > vidinput_v4l2; > > concerning a patch, I can't provide a common solution which works on > Linux and FreeBSD because I'm not a C++ programmer; I only could hack > the code as shown above so that it will work in FreeBSD; maybe Steve > should just put this into a patch file for the /usr/ports/devel/pwlib in > the FreeBSD ports tree; Steve? > And contribute it back to us, otherwise we can not commit it... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 16:25:13 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:25:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 17:11 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 09:58:10AM -0400, Steve Ames escribi?: > > > The following patch exists in the freebsd port, does it already > > address this issue? > > > > > > --- plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx.orig Wed Jan 3 23:37:37 2007 > > +++ plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx Wed Feb 7 01:30:50 2007 > > @@ -484,6 +484,15 @@ > > struct stat s; > > if (lstat(devname, &s) == 0) { > > > > +#if defined(P_FREEBSD) > > + // device numbers are irrelevant here, so we match on names instead. > > + if (filename.GetLength() <= 5 || filename.Left(5) != "video") > > + continue; > > + int num = atoi(filename.Mid(6)); > > + if (num < 0 || num > 63) > > + continue; > > + vid.SetAt(num, devname); > > +#else > > static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; > > for (PINDEX i = 0; i < PARRAYSIZE(deviceNumbers); i++) { > > if (MAJOR(s.st_rdev) == deviceNumbers[i]) { > > @@ -493,6 +502,7 @@ > > } > > } > > } > > +#endif > > } > > } > > } > > Yes, I've tried this patch in the source and it picks up the /dev/video0 > file as well; > > now I've the next problem: > > when I make a call h323:10.0.1.40 to the VX700 where I'm sitting with my > laptop in front of, I can see in Ekiga the local picture from my cam and > the picture grabed by the cam of the VX700 in side-by-side view > mode, but the TV the VX700 is connected to only shows the name of the > session and the rest is dark; I have a -d3 output if this would be > helpfull for you, Damien; thx for any hint; > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It will probably work better. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From steve at energistic.com Wed Mar 19 16:31:55 2008 From: steve at energistic.com (Steve Ames) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1205943792.32728.18.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205931105.4235.4.camel@scorpion> <20080319131113.GA26383@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943792.32728.18.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080319163155.GA66068@energistic.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:23:12PM +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > And contribute it back to us, otherwise we can not commit it... The following is already in the freebsd port and has been verified to work. Are you interested in other patches that we have in the port? If so please see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/pwlib/files/ --- plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx.orig Wed Jan 3 23:37:37 2007 +++ plugins/vidinput_v4l/vidinput_v4l.cxx Wed Feb 7 01:30:50 2007 @@ -484,6 +484,15 @@ struct stat s; if (lstat(devname, &s) == 0) { +#if defined(P_FREEBSD) + // device numbers are irrelevant here, so we match on names instead. + if (filename.GetLength() <= 5 || filename.Left(5) != "video") + continue; + int num = atoi(filename.Mid(6)); + if (num < 0 || num > 63) + continue; + vid.SetAt(num, devname); +#else static const int deviceNumbers[] = { 81 }; for (PINDEX i = 0; i < PARRAYSIZE(deviceNumbers); i++) { if (MAJOR(s.st_rdev) == deviceNumbers[i]) { @@ -493,6 +502,7 @@ } } } +#endif } } } This is against pwlib 1.12.0 -Steve From jacques at lavignotte.org Wed Mar 19 16:50:14 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:50:14 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [SHORT TEST] (again) In-Reply-To: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> References: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <47E14446.2060307@lavignotte.org> jacques a ?crit : > Hello, > > If you believe your Ekiga is working well, > please give a try at sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> > > for a short ( one minute) audio test only. We had a long test with ?gegetel? The sound is good on both ends, we had the oportunity to test headsets and microphone and also some audio plugins. But we encounterem a problem : Gege can call me but I can't call him. We both use 2.0.11 We both use NAT. Can anyone allow me to give him a call in order to try to know on which end is the trouble with calls. I wil be around till 19:30 (TU +1) Thanks, Jacques sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> From dsandras at seconix.com Wed Mar 19 16:56:29 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:56:29 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [SHORT TEST] (again) In-Reply-To: <47E14446.2060307@lavignotte.org> References: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> <47E14446.2060307@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <1205945789.32728.22.camel@scorpion> Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 17:50 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > jacques a ?crit : > > Hello, > > > > If you believe your Ekiga is working well, > > please give a try at sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> > > > > for a short ( one minute) audio test only. > > We had a long test with ?gegetel? > > The sound is good on both ends, we had the oportunity to test headsets > and microphone and also some audio plugins. > > But we encounterem a problem : > > Gege can call me but I can't call him. > > We both use 2.0.11 > > We both use NAT. > > Can anyone allow me to give him a call in order to try to know on which > end is the trouble with calls. > > If you can't call him, the problem is on his side. He needs to diminish the NAT binding time using gconf-editor. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From monnier at iro.umontreal.ca Wed Mar 19 16:58:04 2008 From: monnier at iro.umontreal.ca (Stefan Monnier) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:58:04 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> Message-ID: >> >> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of >> >> Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. >> > Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net? >> I think both are really important, is it not? Not really: the Ekiga application is just that: an application. It happens to use the network, just like Firefox, but it doesn't (modulo bugs or nasty people adding backdoors) connect to any machine to which you haven't explicitly asked it to connect. I don't think a privacy statement is important here. > You seem to assume that Ekiga is an organization, in the way that Skype > is an organization. It is not at all the same thing: Skype is a > commercial organization with a proprietary product and service; Ekiga > is an open source application, and there is a community that supports > and uses it. To use myself as an example, the only information that > ekiga.net has access to are my name and email address. There need be > no privacy statement, since there is no collection of personal data, > such as Skype might require and use. The fact that Ekiga.net is not commercial doesn't make much difference: it does keep a database of users with their email address and names, and (more importantly) it does keep track of which ones are connected and from where, so it know about IP addresses and may potentially keep a log of "when which user connected with which IP". And the police may order Damien to give out some of that info, or some dire financial need (or juicy offer) may push Damien to sell that info. So a privacy statement explaining what info is kept (e.g. is a log of IP addresses kept?), that to which it is intended (e.g. it's not intended to be distributed to any third party, except the name database which is freely searchable, IIUC), and the worst case guarantee (all the data may be stolen, subpoena'd, sold, ...). Stefan From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:26:05 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:26:05 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:34 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? > > > > > Sorry to but in, when I use Pulseaudio ekiga sound will not work. I > > kill pulseaudio and ekiga works ok. > > I do get these errors:.... > > Thanks for butting in. More ideas means quicker fixes. > > I have wondered about this for some time. In connection with Ekiga crashes, > Pulseaudio keeps popping up. I don't know what it is, but pretty sure it > comes > installed by default on Slackware 12.0, which is what I have. > > I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? at a terminal do a ps -aux|grep pulseaudio and this will give you the process number,,,,then do a kill -9 xxx . (explain xxx = process number.) Peace..................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:28:05 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:28:05 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> Message-ID: I assume that everything I read, write, upload or download on the Internet and dates, times and IP addresses are being recorded by several governmental agencies at any given moment. Thus far, I have rarely been proven wrong. I assume everything I do on the Internet could just as well have been shouted at the top of my lungs in a football stadium. It is in this sense that I think privacy statements, while being a profitable marketing gesture for a business, offers no more privacy than no statement at all. Let us say you are going to tell someone over Ekiga about some terrible crime you will commit. Do you really think you will escape police intervention or a prison sentence because of a privacy statement? I guess you could try and file a lawsuit from a prison cell, but would it not be easier to accept my interpretation of VoIP as shouting in a football stadium? Finally, a lawyer could butt in and tell us all these complicated issues and scenarios and pitfalls, and the infinite variances in different countries. Again, would it not be easier to just assume you are shouting in a football stadium and just accept the Internet does not have much mercy for privacy? Dominic _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:30:21 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:30:21 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? > > at a terminal do a ps -aux|grep pulseaudio and this will give you the > process number,,,,then > do a kill -9 xxx . (explain xxx = process number.) OK, well, the standard kill -9 is easy enough. So how do I prevent it from loading into memory in the first place? Is pulseaudio in the kernel or somewhere else? Dee _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:35:57 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:35:57 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [SHORT TEST] (again) In-Reply-To: <1205945789.32728.22.camel@scorpion> References: <47E0EC34.4020104@lavignotte.org> <47E14446.2060307@lavignotte.org> <1205945789.32728.22.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803191035s148ee733qae1a8601ecece0f0@mail.gmail.com> I tried to call just now, sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net and my call log said "abnormal termination" On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le mercredi 19 mars 2008 ? 17:50 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > > > jacques a ?crit : > > > Hello, > > > > > > If you believe your Ekiga is working well, > > > please give a try at sip:lebocabot at ekiga.net> > > > > > > for a short ( one minute) audio test only. > > > > We had a long test with ?gegetel? > > > > The sound is good on both ends, we had the oportunity to test headsets > > and microphone and also some audio plugins. > > > > But we encounterem a problem : > > > > Gege can call me but I can't call him. > > > > We both use 2.0.11 > > > > We both use NAT. > > > > Can anyone allow me to give him a call in order to try to know on which > > end is the trouble with calls. > > > > > > If you can't call him, the problem is on his side. He needs to diminish > the NAT binding time using gconf-editor. > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From edunagin at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:39:25 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:39:25 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af451740803191039i6ba5886v4d24acd1aa46e14f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:30 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? > > > > at a terminal do a ps -aux|grep pulseaudio and this will give you the > > process number,,,,then > > do a kill -9 xxx . (explain xxx = process number.) > > > OK, well, the standard kill -9 is easy enough. > > So how do I prevent it from loading into memory in the first place? Is > pulseaudio in > the kernel or somewhere else? It is in a startup file. something like /etc/init.d but I havent located it yet, so I know to kill it before starting Ekiga. -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dford at ansur.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 19 17:39:30 2008 From: dford at ansur.demon.co.uk (David Ford) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:39:30 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205935140.4235.28.camel@scorpion> <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E14FD2.4040700@ansur.demon.co.uk> D Webb wrote: > > > > Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? > > > > > Sorry to but in, when I use Pulseaudio ekiga sound will not work. I > > kill pulseaudio and ekiga works ok. > > I do get these errors:.... > > Thanks for butting in. More ideas means quicker fixes. > > I have wondered about this for some time. In connection with Ekiga > crashes, > Pulseaudio keeps popping up. I don't know what it is, but pretty sure > it comes > installed by default on Slackware 12.0, which is what I have. > > I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? I'm running FC8 (no Ekiga though) with pulseaudio - lots of stuff doesn't work. I've installed paman and the pluseaudio applet - I can now click on the applet to stop and start the server. See here - http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup Hopes this helps some. David > > Dee > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list From damailings at mcbf.net Wed Mar 19 18:28:04 2008 From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:28:04 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: References: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472d4b250803191128h44e2283ar4b140b4578417103@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:30 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > I should at least try removing it. So, how do I "kill" pulseaudio? > > > > at a terminal do a ps -aux|grep pulseaudio and this will give you the > > process number,,,,then > > do a kill -9 xxx . (explain xxx = process number.) > > > OK, well, the standard kill -9 is easy enough. Uhm, 'standard' kill -9 ?? You should only use kill -9 as a last resort, as it does not allow the kernel to clean up after the process. This can actually screw up your system in the worst case. Recommended is just 'kill' first, which sends the TERM signal, and if that doesn't work then 'kill -KILL'. > So how do I prevent it from loading into memory in the first place? Is > pulseaudio in > the kernel or somewhere else? That's a question you should ask on a Slackware mailing list if you can't get help here. ~David > Dee > > ________________________________ > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. Learn more. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > From jacques at lavignotte.org Wed Mar 19 22:37:44 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:37:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <472d4b250803191128h44e2283ar4b140b4578417103@mail.gmail.com> References: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> <472d4b250803191128h44e2283ar4b140b4578417103@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E195B8.9040003@lavignotte.org> David Mohr a ?crit : > You should only use kill -9 as a last resort, as it does not allow the > kernel to clean up after the process. You dont like zombies :) Jacques, dont -HUP me :) From guru at Sisis.de Thu Mar 20 06:32:49 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:32:49 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && VSX 7000 In-Reply-To: <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 05:25:13PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > now I've the next problem: > > > > when I make a call h323:10.0.1.40 to the VSX 7000 where I'm sitting with my > > laptop in front of, I can see in Ekiga the local picture from my cam and > > the picture grabed by the cam of the VSX 7000 in side-by-side view > > mode, but the TV the VSX 7000 is connected to only shows the name of the > > session and the rest is dark; I have a -d3 output if this would be > > helpfull for you, Damien; thx for any hint; > > > > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, > but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. > > Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try > the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It > will probably work better. I will do that when I've updated my laptop this upcoming weekend to FreeBSD 7.0R which brings more recent versions of opal and pwlib; just to make sure: can I somehow proof in the -d3 output if Ekiga has send the stream to the VSX 7000 at all? if you want to have a look I've put the -d3 log here: http://www.unixarea.de/ekigaLogD3.txt thanks in advance and Happy Easter to all matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 20 09:32:08 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:32:08 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && VSX 7000 In-Reply-To: <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 07:32 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 05:25:13PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > > now I've the next problem: > > > > > > when I make a call h323:10.0.1.40 to the VSX 7000 where I'm sitting with my > > > laptop in front of, I can see in Ekiga the local picture from my cam and > > > the picture grabed by the cam of the VSX 7000 in side-by-side view > > > mode, but the TV the VSX 7000 is connected to only shows the name of the > > > session and the rest is dark; I have a -d3 output if this would be > > > helpfull for you, Damien; thx for any hint; > > > > > > > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, > > but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. > > > > Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try > > the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It > > will probably work better. > > I will do that when I've updated my laptop this upcoming weekend to > FreeBSD 7.0R which brings more recent versions of opal and pwlib; > > just to make sure: can I somehow proof in the -d3 output if Ekiga has > send the stream to the VSX 7000 at all? if you want to have a look I've > put the -d3 log here: http://www.unixarea.de/ekigaLogD3.txt > It sends video : Started sending logical channel: H.261(QCIF) <17> -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From guru at Sisis.de Thu Mar 20 09:46:01 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:46:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && VSX 7000 In-Reply-To: <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080320094601.GA3234@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Thursday, March 20, 2008 a las 10:32:08AM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, > > > but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. > > > > > > Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try > > > the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It > > > will probably work better. > > > > I will do that when I've updated my laptop this upcoming weekend to > > FreeBSD 7.0R which brings more recent versions of opal and pwlib; > > > > just to make sure: can I somehow proof in the -d3 output if Ekiga has > > send the stream to the VSX 7000 at all? if you want to have a look I've > > put the -d3 log here: http://www.unixarea.de/ekigaLogD3.txt > > > > It sends video : > Started sending logical channel: H.261(QCIF) <17> Thanks for locking into that; it seems that the VSX 7000 does not support H.261 encodings, at least not in my firware release Release 7.5.2 from 31Mar2005; there are threats about this visible in Google, for example: http://www.marratech.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t1513.html so I will follow your hint about SVN Trunk / H.264 Thx again matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From schoappied at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 10:39:30 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:39:30 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> Message-ID: <47E23EE2.9030901@gmail.com> Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of >>>>> Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. >>>>> >>>> Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net? >>>> >>> I think both are really important, is it not? >>> > > Not really: the Ekiga application is just that: an application. > It happens to use the network, just like Firefox, but it doesn't > (modulo bugs or nasty people adding backdoors) connect to any machine > to which you haven't explicitly asked it to connect. > > I don't think a privacy statement is important here. > > >> You seem to assume that Ekiga is an organization, in the way that Skype >> is an organization. It is not at all the same thing: Skype is a >> commercial organization with a proprietary product and service; Ekiga >> is an open source application, and there is a community that supports >> and uses it. To use myself as an example, the only information that >> ekiga.net has access to are my name and email address. There need be >> no privacy statement, since there is no collection of personal data, >> such as Skype might require and use. >> > > The fact that Ekiga.net is not commercial doesn't make much difference: > it does keep a database of users with their email address and names, and > (more importantly) it does keep track of which ones are connected and > from where, so it know about IP addresses and may potentially keep a log > of "when which user connected with which IP". > > And the police may order Damien to give out some of that info, or some > dire financial need (or juicy offer) may push Damien to sell that info. > > So a privacy statement explaining what info is kept (e.g. is a log of IP > addresses kept?), that to which it is intended (e.g. it's not intended > to be distributed to any third party, except the name database which is > freely searchable, IIUC), and the worst case guarantee (all the data may > be stolen, subpoena'd, sold, ...). > > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > D Webb wrote: > I assume that everything I read, write, upload or download on the > Internet > and dates, times and IP addresses are being recorded by several > governmental agencies at any given moment. Thus far, I have rarely been > proven wrong. I assume everything I do on the Internet could just as well > have been shouted at the top of my lungs in a football stadium. > > It is in this sense that I think privacy statements, while being a > profitable > marketing gesture for a business, offers no more privacy than no > statement > at all. Let us say you are going to tell someone over Ekiga about some > terrible > crime you will commit. Do you really think you will escape police > intervention > or a prison sentence because of a privacy statement? I guess you could > try and file a lawsuit from a prison cell, but would it not be easier > to accept > my interpretation of VoIP as shouting in a football stadium? > > Finally, a lawyer could butt in and tell us all these complicated > issues and > scenarios and pitfalls, and the infinite variances in different > countries. Again, > would it not be easier to just assume you are shouting in a football > stadium > and just accept the Internet does not have much mercy for privacy? > > Dominic Of course the governments and police can get at a given time (as exception) access to data stored on the internet. But, at least in the Netherlands, also the government and the police have to respect laws and rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. Privacy is a human right of a democracy. And there is more then police and government. The police and government are not the first and also not the second reason to have a privacy policy. The first reason is that you as a user, have the right to know what is happening with your given or received data. On the basis of the policy you can decide whether or not you are going to use that service. So Ekiga as a service can at least give information how they handle the information with or without given guarantees. Second it is also good to know if a service will doing at least there best to take care about privacy. The fact that other service store information for a long time, set cookies, or even give or sell information to third parties (advertisement companies for example) makes a privacy policy useful or necessary for a service as Ekiga. I don't want a service that is gathering information and give it to third parties and so I like to know of Ekiga what there policy is in this case. And I think it is something that a service like Ekiga should have, because it is important how a service is dealing with your (private) information (I don't like to find my chatsession with my girlfriend to find on Google or that others can know who I'm calling at which times). The argument that privacy statements or policies is only profitable marketing is something which is not true. I can't see why it should Ekiga costs money to have just written down there privacy policy. I think too that a privacy policy is not the same as a guarantee, it would be nice if it was, but inform your users about the privacy policy of the service and doing the best to protect the privacy of the 'users' is in itself a good thing. Dirk From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 20 11:07:00 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:07:00 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47E23EE2.9030901@gmail.com> References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> <47E23EE2.9030901@gmail.com> Message-ID: > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements helping much. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schoappied at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 11:42:28 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:42:28 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga In-Reply-To: References: <47DEBB64.3040706@gmail.com> <1205779639.4108.9.camel@scorpion> <47DEBF53.2030701@gmail.com> <200803171218.21507.cam@ellisonpsychology.ca> <47E23EE2.9030901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E24DA4.4040605@gmail.com> D Webb wrote: > > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium > > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a > > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens > > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. > > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. > > Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with > infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your > privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want > laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because > there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the > corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements > helping much. > > Dee > I think you're right on this point, although Ekiga should, in my opinion, do there best to protect my information against potential violators.... But it seems that you not really understand what I was trying to say. It's not only about protecting information against violators outside, but as a user I want to know the policy of* Ekiga itself.* What are they doing with my information. That's what I want to know before I will use a service like Ekiga. And I think they should put there policy, like many other comparable services, on there website. Privacy for a internet service like Ekiga is an important issue. That's why I was a little surprised by the reaction of developer Damien (with respect), who said that he finds writing a privacy policy boring or hasn't enough time for it. I think if you're offering a service like this and like to have a lot of users, the first thing you should do is doing your best to protect your users against violations of all kind and give them information about how you deal with the privacy of your users. That's at least the right your users have. I like to help spreading the word about Ekiga, but I'd like to do that with the knowledge that the service has a good and open privacy policy. Kind regards, Dirk From guru at Sisis.de Thu Mar 20 12:38:21 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:38:21 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && VSX 7000 In-Reply-To: <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080320123821.GA6919@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Thursday, March 20, 2008 a las 10:32:08AM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > It sends video : > Started sending logical channel: H.261(QCIF) <17> a question concerning this: some lines later it says: 2008/03/19 16:41:50.647 0:17.007 H.245 Handler Patch Sink stream OpalRTPMediaStream-Sink-H.261(QCIF) cannot support data size 0 could this cause the problem? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From iris.gates at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 12:44:21 2008 From: iris.gates at gmail.com (E Johnson) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:44:21 -0400 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Endless privacy policy discussion Message-ID: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> This endless "privacy policy" discussion is worse than tedious. It sidetracks the developers, whose time is better spent in making Ekiga better for us all. In his initial post, Dirk wrote "I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking about to try Ekiga." I fail to understand how a Skype user should worry about this system, which is infinitely more secure. And I am frankly surprised at how much time has been wasted here to accommodate this discussion. The privacy policy of Ekiga was stated several days ago by Damien: "Only email addresses and first name / last name informations are stored in a database. This information will not be made public or given to third-parties." It's very clear: they don't share your info. They only keep the minimum of info necessary to make the system work for you. Bottom line. Punt. Finito. End of story. Let it go, people... if someone is so insecure, let him find a cave to hide in alone. Let's stop wasting everyone's time, and let the developers go back to doing their job. Thanks very much, Liz J On 3/20/08, ekiga-list-request at gnome.org wrote: > Send ekiga-list mailing list submissions to > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ekiga-list-request at gnome.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ekiga-list-owner at gnome.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ekiga-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (schoappied) > 2. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (D Webb) > 3. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (schoappied) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:39:30 +0100 > From: schoappied > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga > To: Ekiga mailing list > Message-ID: <47E23EE2.9030901 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>>>> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of > >>>>> Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. > >>>>> > >>>> Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net? > >>>> > >>> I think both are really important, is it not? > >>> > > > > Not really: the Ekiga application is just that: an application. > > It happens to use the network, just like Firefox, but it doesn't > > (modulo bugs or nasty people adding backdoors) connect to any machine > > to which you haven't explicitly asked it to connect. > > > > I don't think a privacy statement is important here. > > > > > >> You seem to assume that Ekiga is an organization, in the way that Skype > >> is an organization. It is not at all the same thing: Skype is a > >> commercial organization with a proprietary product and service; Ekiga > >> is an open source application, and there is a community that supports > >> and uses it. To use myself as an example, the only information that > >> ekiga.net has access to are my name and email address. There need be > >> no privacy statement, since there is no collection of personal data, > >> such as Skype might require and use. > >> > > > > The fact that Ekiga.net is not commercial doesn't make much difference: > > it does keep a database of users with their email address and names, and > > (more importantly) it does keep track of which ones are connected and > > from where, so it know about IP addresses and may potentially keep a log > > of "when which user connected with which IP". > > > > And the police may order Damien to give out some of that info, or some > > dire financial need (or juicy offer) may push Damien to sell that info. > > > > So a privacy statement explaining what info is kept (e.g. is a log of IP > > addresses kept?), that to which it is intended (e.g. it's not intended > > to be distributed to any third party, except the name database which is > > freely searchable, IIUC), and the worst case guarantee (all the data may > > be stolen, subpoena'd, sold, ...). > > > > > > Stefan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > D Webb wrote: > > I assume that everything I read, write, upload or download on the > > Internet > > and dates, times and IP addresses are being recorded by several > > governmental agencies at any given moment. Thus far, I have rarely been > > proven wrong. I assume everything I do on the Internet could just as well > > have been shouted at the top of my lungs in a football stadium. > > > > It is in this sense that I think privacy statements, while being a > > profitable > > marketing gesture for a business, offers no more privacy than no > > statement > > at all. Let us say you are going to tell someone over Ekiga about some > > terrible > > crime you will commit. Do you really think you will escape police > > intervention > > or a prison sentence because of a privacy statement? I guess you could > > try and file a lawsuit from a prison cell, but would it not be easier > > to accept > > my interpretation of VoIP as shouting in a football stadium? > > > > Finally, a lawyer could butt in and tell us all these complicated > > issues and > > scenarios and pitfalls, and the infinite variances in different > > countries. Again, > > would it not be easier to just assume you are shouting in a football > > stadium > > and just accept the Internet does not have much mercy for privacy? > > > > Dominic > > Of course the governments and police can get at a given time (as > exception) access to data stored on the internet. But, at least in the > Netherlands, also the government and the police have to respect laws and > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. > > And there is more then police and government. The police and government > are not the first and also not the second reason to have a privacy > policy. The first reason is that you as a user, have the right to know > what is happening with your given or received data. On the basis of the > policy you can decide whether or not you are going to use that service. > So Ekiga as a service can at least give information how they handle the > information with or without given guarantees. Second it is also good to > know if a service will doing at least there best to take care about privacy. > > The fact that other service store information for a long time, set > cookies, or even give or sell information to third parties > (advertisement companies for example) makes a privacy policy useful or > necessary for a service as Ekiga. I don't want a service that is > gathering information and give it to third parties and so I like to know > of Ekiga what there policy is in this case. And I think it is something > that a service like Ekiga should have, because it is important how a > service is dealing with your (private) information (I don't like to find > my chatsession with my girlfriend to find on Google or that others can > know who I'm calling at which times). > > The argument that privacy statements or policies is only profitable > marketing is something which is not true. I can't see why it should > Ekiga costs money to have just written down there privacy policy. I > think too that a privacy policy is not the same as a guarantee, it would > be nice if it was, but inform your users about the privacy policy of the > service and doing the best to protect the privacy of the 'users' is in > itself a good thing. > > > Dirk > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:07:00 +0000 > From: D Webb > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga > To: Ekiga mailing list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium > > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a > > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens > > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. > > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. > > Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with > infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your > privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want > laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because > there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the > corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements > helping much. > > Dee > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: /archives/ekiga-list/attachments/20080320/273de28b/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:42:28 +0100 > From: schoappied > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga > To: Ekiga mailing list > Message-ID: <47E24DA4.4040605 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > D Webb wrote: > > > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium > > > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a > > > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens > > > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. > > > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. > > > > Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with > > infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your > > privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want > > laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because > > there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the > > corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements > > helping much. > > > > Dee > > > I think you're right on this point, although Ekiga should, in my > opinion, do there best to protect my information against potential > violators.... > > But it seems that you not really understand what I was trying to say. > It's not only about protecting information against violators outside, > but as a user I want to know the policy of* Ekiga itself.* What are they > doing with my information. That's what I want to know before I will use > a service like Ekiga. And I think they should put there policy, like > many other comparable services, on there website. > > Privacy for a internet service like Ekiga is an important issue. That's > why I was a little surprised by the reaction of developer Damien (with > respect), who said that he finds writing a privacy policy boring or > hasn't enough time for it. I think if you're offering a service like > this and like to have a lot of users, the first thing you should do is > doing your best to protect your users against violations of all kind and > give them information about how you deal with the privacy of your users. > That's at least the right your users have. > > I like to help spreading the word about Ekiga, but I'd like to do that > with the knowledge that the service has a good and open privacy policy. > > Kind regards, > > Dirk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > End of ekiga-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 38 > ****************************************** > From schoappied at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 13:21:26 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:21:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] privacy policy Ekiga In-Reply-To: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> References: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E264D6.4000100@gmail.com> E Johnson wrote: > This endless "privacy policy" discussion is worse than tedious. It > sidetracks the developers, whose time is better spent in making Ekiga > better for us all. > > In his initial post, Dirk wrote "I'm a skype user, but I'm thinking > about to try Ekiga." I fail to understand how a Skype user should > worry about this system, which is infinitely more secure. > > And I am frankly surprised at how much time has been wasted here to > accommodate this discussion. > > The privacy policy of Ekiga was stated several days ago by Damien: > > "Only email addresses and first name / last name informations are > stored in a database. This information will not be made public or > given to third-parties." > > It's very clear: they don't share your info. They only keep the > minimum of info necessary to make the system work for you. > > Bottom line. Punt. Finito. End of story. > > Let it go, people... if someone is so insecure, let him find a cave to > hide in alone. Let's stop wasting everyone's time, and let the > developers go back to doing their job. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > You seams to have a very narrow view of making a service like Ekiga is. It's more than just software (which is of course very important), it's also about making a good service, e.g. good program, good documentation, good support, a good website, good registration, good advertisement and in my opinion a good privacy policy. Disappointing that you do not understand, even after a (using your words) endless discussion, the point yet. But I want to try to make it clear once more... Fine, that the policy seems to be clear for you, me and maybe for more people on this list. I think the same clearness is necessary for *all *the (potential) users of Ekiga. That's not a waste of time but necessarily for a service like Ekiga and which will make Ekiga as a service even better and I suppose that's what also the developers want! Also it will give you a stronger position when potential users or reviewers compare Ekiga with for example Skype. Dirk > > > > > > > On 3/20/08, ekiga-list-request at gnome.org wrote: > >> Send ekiga-list mailing list submissions to >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ekiga-list-request at gnome.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ekiga-list-owner at gnome.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of ekiga-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (schoappied) >> 2. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (D Webb) >> 3. Re: Privacy policy of Ekiga (schoappied) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:39:30 +0100 >> From: schoappied >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Message-ID: <47E23EE2.9030901 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Stefan Monnier wrote: >> >>>>> I hope you will be able to point me to the privacy statements of >> >>>>> Ekiga or otherwise You will take this subject very seriously. >> >>>>> >> >>>> Are you talking about ekiga or ekiga.net? >> >>>> >> >>> I think both are really important, is it not? >> >>> >> > >> > Not really: the Ekiga application is just that: an application. >> > It happens to use the network, just like Firefox, but it doesn't >> > (modulo bugs or nasty people adding backdoors) connect to any machine >> > to which you haven't explicitly asked it to connect. >> > >> > I don't think a privacy statement is important here. >> > >> > >> >> You seem to assume that Ekiga is an organization, in the way that Skype >> >> is an organization. It is not at all the same thing: Skype is a >> >> commercial organization with a proprietary product and service; Ekiga >> >> is an open source application, and there is a community that supports >> >> and uses it. To use myself as an example, the only information that >> >> ekiga.net has access to are my name and email address. There need be >> >> no privacy statement, since there is no collection of personal data, >> >> such as Skype might require and use. >> >> >> > >> > The fact that Ekiga.net is not commercial doesn't make much difference: >> > it does keep a database of users with their email address and names, and >> > (more importantly) it does keep track of which ones are connected and >> > from where, so it know about IP addresses and may potentially keep a log >> > of "when which user connected with which IP". >> > >> > And the police may order Damien to give out some of that info, or some >> > dire financial need (or juicy offer) may push Damien to sell that info. >> > >> > So a privacy statement explaining what info is kept (e.g. is a log of IP >> > addresses kept?), that to which it is intended (e.g. it's not intended >> > to be distributed to any third party, except the name database which is >> > freely searchable, IIUC), and the worst case guarantee (all the data may >> > be stolen, subpoena'd, sold, ...). >> > >> > >> > Stefan >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ekiga-list mailing list >> > ekiga-list at gnome.org >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> > >> > >> D Webb wrote: >> > I assume that everything I read, write, upload or download on the >> > Internet >> > and dates, times and IP addresses are being recorded by several >> > governmental agencies at any given moment. Thus far, I have rarely been >> > proven wrong. I assume everything I do on the Internet could just as well >> > have been shouted at the top of my lungs in a football stadium. >> > >> > It is in this sense that I think privacy statements, while being a >> > profitable >> > marketing gesture for a business, offers no more privacy than no >> > statement >> > at all. Let us say you are going to tell someone over Ekiga about some >> > terrible >> > crime you will commit. Do you really think you will escape police >> > intervention >> > or a prison sentence because of a privacy statement? I guess you could >> > try and file a lawsuit from a prison cell, but would it not be easier >> > to accept >> > my interpretation of VoIP as shouting in a football stadium? >> > >> > Finally, a lawyer could butt in and tell us all these complicated >> > issues and >> > scenarios and pitfalls, and the infinite variances in different >> > countries. Again, >> > would it not be easier to just assume you are shouting in a football >> > stadium >> > and just accept the Internet does not have much mercy for privacy? >> > >> > Dominic >> >> Of course the governments and police can get at a given time (as >> exception) access to data stored on the internet. But, at least in the >> Netherlands, also the government and the police have to respect laws and >> rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium >> is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a >> country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens >> should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. >> Privacy is a human right of a democracy. >> >> And there is more then police and government. The police and government >> are not the first and also not the second reason to have a privacy >> policy. The first reason is that you as a user, have the right to know >> what is happening with your given or received data. On the basis of the >> policy you can decide whether or not you are going to use that service. >> So Ekiga as a service can at least give information how they handle the >> information with or without given guarantees. Second it is also good to >> know if a service will doing at least there best to take care about privacy. >> >> The fact that other service store information for a long time, set >> cookies, or even give or sell information to third parties >> (advertisement companies for example) makes a privacy policy useful or >> necessary for a service as Ekiga. I don't want a service that is >> gathering information and give it to third parties and so I like to know >> of Ekiga what there policy is in this case. And I think it is something >> that a service like Ekiga should have, because it is important how a >> service is dealing with your (private) information (I don't like to find >> my chatsession with my girlfriend to find on Google or that others can >> know who I'm calling at which times). >> >> The argument that privacy statements or policies is only profitable >> marketing is something which is not true. I can't see why it should >> Ekiga costs money to have just written down there privacy policy. I >> think too that a privacy policy is not the same as a guarantee, it would >> be nice if it was, but inform your users about the privacy policy of the >> service and doing the best to protect the privacy of the 'users' is in >> itself a good thing. >> >> >> Dirk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:07:00 +0000 >> From: D Webb >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium >> > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a >> > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens >> > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. >> > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. >> >> Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with >> infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your >> privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want >> laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because >> there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the >> corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements >> helping much. >> >> Dee >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. >> http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: /archives/ekiga-list/attachments/20080320/273de28b/attachment.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:42:28 +0100 >> From: schoappied >> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga >> To: Ekiga mailing list >> Message-ID: <47E24DA4.4040605 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> D Webb wrote: >> > > rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium >> > > is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a >> > > country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens >> > > should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. >> > > Privacy is a human right of a democracy. >> > >> > Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with >> > infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your >> > privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want >> > laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because >> > there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the >> > corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements >> > helping much. >> > >> > Dee >> > >> I think you're right on this point, although Ekiga should, in my >> opinion, do there best to protect my information against potential >> violators.... >> >> But it seems that you not really understand what I was trying to say. >> It's not only about protecting information against violators outside, >> but as a user I want to know the policy of* Ekiga itself.* What are they >> doing with my information. That's what I want to know before I will use >> a service like Ekiga. And I think they should put there policy, like >> many other comparable services, on there website. >> >> Privacy for a internet service like Ekiga is an important issue. That's >> why I was a little surprised by the reaction of developer Damien (with >> respect), who said that he finds writing a privacy policy boring or >> hasn't enough time for it. I think if you're offering a service like >> this and like to have a lot of users, the first thing you should do is >> doing your best to protect your users against violations of all kind and >> give them information about how you deal with the privacy of your users. >> That's at least the right your users have. >> >> I like to help spreading the word about Ekiga, but I'd like to do that >> with the knowledge that the service has a good and open privacy policy. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Dirk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ekiga-list mailing list >> ekiga-list at gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list >> >> End of ekiga-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 38 >> ****************************************** >> >> > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 20 13:34:45 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:34:45 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed In-Reply-To: <47E195B8.9040003@lavignotte.org> References: <1205936006.32728.0.camel@scorpion> <1205936611.32728.2.camel@scorpion> <1205937486.32728.4.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803190802t5e674d18j78749e63e6e64caa@mail.gmail.com> <2af451740803191026p765f92bch8a3d2c21eee3391e@mail.gmail.com> <472d4b250803191128h44e2283ar4b140b4578417103@mail.gmail.com> <47E195B8.9040003@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: Thanks for ideas. I have now checked this matter about pulseaudio on my computer. On at least one of my Slackware 12.0 partitions where Ekiga crashes, pulseaudio is apparently not installed. It does not appear with ps -A from a terminal shell in DKE 3.5 where I have been trying to run Ekiga. Looks like I need to focus on other sources for this problem. Original candidate is ALSA-lib. I am thinking to upgrade this and also maybe try Ekiga to 2.0.12 Dee _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 20 14:29:44 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:29:44 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && VSX 7000 In-Reply-To: <20080320123821.GA6919@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080320063249.GA2440@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206005528.4995.2.camel@scorpion> <20080320123821.GA6919@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206023384.4995.6.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 13:38 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Thursday, March 20, 2008 a las 10:32:08AM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > It sends video : > > Started sending logical channel: H.261(QCIF) <17> > > a question concerning this: some lines later it says: > > 2008/03/19 16:41:50.647 0:17.007 H.245 Handler Patch Sink stream OpalRTPMediaStream-Sink-H.261(QCIF) cannot support data size 0 > > could this cause the problem? > I don't think so. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jacques at lavignotte.org Thu Mar 20 14:32:13 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:32:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [POLICY] Endless privacy policy discussion In-Reply-To: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> References: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E2756D.2050308@lavignotte.org> E Johnson a ?crit : > This endless "privacy policy" discussion is worse than tedious. In your opinion. The topics discussed here are not trivial. > It > sidetracks the developers, whose time is better spent in making Ekiga > better for us all. I added a banner [POLICY] so you can avoid reading next messages end teherefore not spe,d your time. > Thanks very much, > Liz J Jacques The olny point is to ask people to ? quote ? properly. From schoappied at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 14:44:11 2008 From: schoappied at gmail.com (schoappied) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:44:11 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] privacy policy Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47E2756D.2050308@lavignotte.org> References: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> <47E2756D.2050308@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <47E2783B.6010106@gmail.com> jacques wrote: > E Johnson a ?crit : > >> This endless "privacy policy" discussion is worse than tedious. >> > > In your opinion. The topics discussed here are not trivial. > > >> It >> sidetracks the developers, whose time is better spent in making Ekiga >> better for us all. >> > > I added a banner [POLICY] so you can avoid reading next messages > end teherefore not spe,d your time. > > >> Thanks very much, >> Liz J >> > > Jacques > > The olny point is to ask people to ? quote ? properly. > > Jacques, I agree with you. But I think there's no need to change the title of the discussion. I hope people understand this subject too, and can decide if they want to read it. ;) Further, the title 'endless discussion' is not right. Because the aim of this discussion is to make the privacy policy of Ekiga open and clear for the users, and with the 'bigger' aim to make Ekiga a better service. Not endless at all :) Back on topic... Dirk From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 20 15:04:09 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:04:09 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] privacy policy Ekiga In-Reply-To: <47E2783B.6010106@gmail.com> References: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> <47E2756D.2050308@lavignotte.org> <47E2783B.6010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206025449.4995.33.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 15:44 +0100, schoappied a ?crit : > > > Jacques, > > I agree with you. But I think there's no need to change the title of the > discussion. I hope people understand this subject too, and can decide if > they want to read it. ;) Further, the title 'endless discussion' is not > right. Because the aim of this discussion is to make the privacy policy > of Ekiga open and clear for the users, and with the 'bigger' aim to make > Ekiga a better service. Not endless at all :) > > Back on topic... OK guys, let's put it straight. I am the main developer of the Ekiga software. I am also the one who initiated Ekiga.net, the SIP platform that you can use with Ekiga and any SIP software. I am not paid to work on Ekiga. I do this in my spare time, and I sometimes sacrifice Family, Friends, Fun, just for my project. People tend to request many things from Free Software developers, and rarely give time, or even money (the amount of donations coming back from Ekiga and/or Ekiga.net is ridiculous). I have proposed a policy, and changed the text that is presented to the user when he signs up for an account. I will not change it anymore unless somebody mails me a patch or sends me money so that I spend 1 or 2 evenings reading and approving such a text. Ekiga is free, Ekiga.net is free, my spare time is free too, but not unlimited. I don't have money, people pay for Skype, they don't pay for Ekiga, they do not even donate 1 ? per year for using the software and/or the service. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From sevmek at free.fr Thu Mar 20 16:15:50 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:15:50 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] privacy policy Ekiga In-Reply-To: <1206025449.4995.33.camel@scorpion> References: <70541d1e0803200544l3ee46a1btaf1159d96c5e8947@mail.gmail.com> <47E2756D.2050308@lavignotte.org> <47E2783B.6010106@gmail.com> <1206025449.4995.33.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206029751.2039.63.camel@achille> Hi, Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 16:04 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > I have proposed a policy, and changed the text that is presented to > the > user when he signs up for an account. I will not change it anymore > unless somebody mails me a patch or sends me money so that I spend 1 > or > 2 evenings reading and approving such a text. The policy is copied here: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga.net_terms If you have a new proposal, you can also request to *me* an account to the wiki and write it in the discussion part of this page: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ekiga.net_terms&action=edit Thus there is a public place for this discussion and proposals. I personally think if we can all together agree on a proposal we can then ask Damien to review it and make a decision for the project. Regards, Yannick -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From raanders at acm.org Thu Mar 20 17:25:54 2008 From: raanders at acm.org (Roderick A. Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:25:54 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] No (key?) tone when dialing Message-ID: <47E29E22.2050400@acm.org> Good morning to all. Sorry to have not lurked longer before asking questions. I have done some searching of the archives but, probably due to a wrong concept, used the wrong terms. Basically I do not hear anything when I press the dial-pad keys and it appears nothing is sent to the system I am connected-to/registered-with. Fluff. I have X-Lite (Linux) working. Background. CentOS 5, Ekiga 2.0.2. Alsa sound drivers, I had this problem when I first installed Ekiga. Then I tried X-Lite to make sure it was not a sound/mic hardware issue. When I started Ekiga again it worked fine. In a moment of 'superior grade stupid' I tried to clean-up the Ekiga installation by un-installing, killing the conf file and reinstalling. (Can not remember why I thought the clean-up was necessary but at the time there seemed to be a reason.) Any ideas as to why there would be no tones transmitted? Thanks, Rod -- From jacques at lavignotte.org Thu Mar 20 23:07:48 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:07:48 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] Message-ID: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> Hello everybody, [This topic may have been discussed before] When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. Thanks, Jacques -- To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org From edunagin at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 23:21:17 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:21:17 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> Me too. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, jacques wrote: > Hello everybody, > > [This topic may have been discussed before] > > When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere > [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. > > Thanks, > Jacques > -- > To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively > spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dsandras at seconix.com Fri Mar 21 11:06:38 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:06:38 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] No (key?) tone when dialing In-Reply-To: <47E29E22.2050400@acm.org> References: <47E29E22.2050400@acm.org> Message-ID: <1206097598.10763.0.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 10:25 -0700, Roderick A. Anderson a ?crit : > Good morning to all. > > Sorry to have not lurked longer before asking questions. I have done > some searching of the archives but, probably due to a wrong concept, > used the wrong terms. > > Basically I do not hear anything when I press the dial-pad keys and it > appears nothing is sent to the system I am connected-to/registered-with. > > Fluff. I have X-Lite (Linux) working. > > Background. CentOS 5, Ekiga 2.0.2. Alsa sound drivers, > > I had this problem when I first installed Ekiga. Then I tried X-Lite to > make sure it was not a sound/mic hardware issue. When I started Ekiga > again it worked fine. In a moment of 'superior grade stupid' I tried to > clean-up the Ekiga installation by un-installing, killing the conf file > and reinstalling. (Can not remember why I thought the clean-up was > necessary but at the time there seemed to be a reason.) > > > Any ideas as to why there would be no tones transmitted? Perhaps the remote end does not support RFC2833 but another way to transmit tones. X-Lite would support the other method and not Ekiga 2.0. Notice also that your release is a bit outdated, I would try upgrading Ekiga. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Fri Mar 21 11:07:09 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:07:09 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> Have you looked at Edit->Accounts ? Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 17:21 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > Me too. > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, jacques wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > [This topic may have been discussed before] > > > > When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere > > [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. > > > > Thanks, > > Jacques > > -- > > To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively > > spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 11:18:32 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:32 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> I guess he was asked for this info directly displayed in the main window :-? Fabrice Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:07 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Have you looked at Edit->Accounts ? > > Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 17:21 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > Me too. > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, jacques wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > [This topic may have been discussed before] > > > > > > When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere > > > [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jacques > > > -- > > > To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively > > > spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ekiga-button
From dsandras at seconix.com Fri Mar 21 11:37:13 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:37:13 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> Message-ID: <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an efficient way ? Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:18 +0100, Fabrice ALPHONSO a ?crit : > I guess he was asked for this info directly displayed in the main > window :-? > > Fabrice > > Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:07 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > Have you looked at Edit->Accounts ? > > > > Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 17:21 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > Me too. > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, jacques wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > [This topic may have been discussed before] > > > > > > > > When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere > > > > [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jacques > > > > -- > > > > To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively > > > > spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > (o- > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > ekiga-button > >
> > src="http://manuxlinux.googlepages.com/appelez-moi.png"> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jacques at lavignotte.org Fri Mar 21 11:30:41 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:30:41 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> Message-ID: <47E39C61.108@lavignotte.org> Fabrice ALPHONSO a ?crit : > I guess he was asked for this info directly displayed in the main > window :-? YES ! Jacques From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 11:43:18 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:43:18 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206099799.17154.8.camel@balder.walhalla> I understand. Either it is just to see what is just to show the default account subscribed, and in this case that would mean just display, for example in the dialpad panel a line with "Default subsc. account : MyAccount". Either it is a way of choosing with what account you want to call and in that case it could be a dropdown list wiht the default one per default, still in the dialpad view. But I admit I didn't clearly understand what was the request at first mail. :) Fabrice Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:37 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an > efficient way ? > > Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:18 +0100, Fabrice ALPHONSO a ?crit : > > I guess he was asked for this info directly displayed in the main > > window :-? > > > > Fabrice > > > > Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:07 +0100, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > > Have you looked at Edit->Accounts ? > > > > > > Le jeudi 20 mars 2008 ? 17:21 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > > Me too. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, jacques wrote: > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > > > [This topic may have been discussed before] > > > > > > > > > > When Ekiga is running I would like to see somewhere > > > > > [MyAccount] or [Mysip:address] displayed. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jacques > > > > > -- > > > > > To my old friends : ALL my @pollux.frmug.org adresses are intensively > > > > > spammed. Please update your address book with : jacques at lavignotte.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > (o- > > > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > > > ekiga-button > > > >
> > > > > src="http://manuxlinux.googlepages.com/appelez-moi.png"> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ekiga-button
From jacques at lavignotte.org Fri Mar 21 12:53:00 2008 From: jacques at lavignotte.org (jacques) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:53:00 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> Damien Sandras a ?crit : > And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an > efficient way ? Maybe I missed something but : Is there ?Active account at the moment? concept ? J From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Fri Mar 21 13:05:32 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:05:32 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] PC to phone Message-ID: <47E3B29C.70201@eastlink.ca> I have had a PC to phone sip account with another provide for years, how can a I dial a phone number using ekiga? eg the country code is 49 the number is 89 555 1212 Thanks Paul From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 17:59:47 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:59:47 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] PC to phone In-Reply-To: <47E3B29C.70201@eastlink.ca> References: <47E3B29C.70201@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <1206122387.16588.1.camel@balder.walhalla> Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 10:05 -0300, J. Paul Bissonnette a ?crit : > I have had a PC to phone sip account with another provide for years, how > can a I dial a phone number using ekiga? eg the country code is 49 the > number is 89 555 1212 Hi Paul perhaps a look to this page can help you, http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Calling#Using_Ekiga_to_do_PC-to-phone_calls despite it is written for the historical "pc-to-phone provider" ekiga's partnair, it should be easy to adapt t oyour own need for a different provider. Hth, > > Thanks Paul Fabrice From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 18:18:56 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:18:56 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga not launching In-Reply-To: <47E3F280.7040905@ncodesys.com> References: <47E3F280.7040905@ncodesys.com> Message-ID: <1206123536.16588.16.camel@balder.walhalla> Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 12:38 -0500, Wendell a ?crit : Hi Wendell, I CC: the ekiga mailing-list as this post is more related of ekiga's use than a problem for dev. Please follow up this discussion on Ekiga's user mailing-list. :) > I am a noob and am running Ubuntu 7.10. > I have been using Skype and saw that Ekiga was installed automatically. > I decided to try it but it will not launch. > Possibly there are dependencies that were not loaded. As far as i can see on my own 7.10, ekiga's version provided by ubuntu repositories is 2.0.11, so there is a new version released since as the current stable ekiga is 2.0.12. you can find the sources on ekiga's website ( http://www.ekiga.org/ section download ). There was a time when we were able to provide packages for several distributions, but it seems that the process to build them is for now broken. You certainly should wait for official ubuntu packages. However if ekiga was installed thru the usual installing procedure in your Ubuntu 7.10, all dependancies should have been satisfied. So if ekiga is not starting there should be another cause. Is there a popup window with an error message when you try to start ekiga ? If you launch it from inside a terminal, is there an error apparing on it ? > How can I add Ekiga site to the repositories so that I can get upgrades? > Or is that not the route to go? > Hth, > Wendell Fabrice From dsandras at seconix.com Fri Mar 21 13:32:17 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:32:17 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <1206106337.10763.26.camel@scorpion> Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 13:53 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an > > efficient way ? > > Maybe I missed something but : > > Is there ?Active account at the moment? concept ? Mmmh no, all registered accounts are active at the same time. The one that is used when doing outgoing calls is the default one. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From jpaulb at eastlink.ca Fri Mar 21 13:38:18 2008 From: jpaulb at eastlink.ca (J. Paul Bissonnette) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:18 -0300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] PC to phone In-Reply-To: <47E3B29C.70201@eastlink.ca> References: <47E3B29C.70201@eastlink.ca> Message-ID: <47E3BA4A.1030703@eastlink.ca> J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: > I have had a PC to phone sip account with another provide for years, > how can a I dial a phone number using ekiga? eg the country code is 49 > the number is 89 555 1212 > > Thanks Paul > RTFM it is in there :-) From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 13:04:45 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:04:45 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> Message-ID: <1206104685.17154.16.camel@balder.walhalla> Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 13:53 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an > > efficient way ? > > Maybe I missed something but : > > Is there ?Active account at the moment? concept ? You can have several accounts of differents SIP or H323 providers to which you can be subscribed at the same time. But there is only one you have as "preferred" and thru which all your call will by default pass except if in the URL field you specify XXXX at your_provider. for example you subscribed an account to ekiga.net an account to SIP1_provider and SIP2_provider. if your default account is ekiga.net, if you just call "sip:500" the call will be interpreted as "sip:500 at ekiga.net". if you wanted to call the user 500 from the provider SIP1_provider you should have explicitely had to write "sip:500 at SIP1_provider" in the URL field. So Damien's question was how to display efficiently the information you request for for someone who has dozen of accounts. All the accounts can be registered at the same time. So which one displaying ? All ? would give an awfull GUI, wouldn't it ? My proposal was, thus, only the default one. my 2?, Fabrice > > J > > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ekiga-button
From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Fri Mar 21 14:17:37 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:17:37 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] [FEATURE REQUEST] In-Reply-To: <1206104685.17154.16.camel@balder.walhalla> References: <47E2EE44.8070006@lavignotte.org> <2af451740803201621g40928164y14214bc7159088fe@mail.gmail.com> <1206097629.10763.2.camel@scorpion> <1206098312.17154.1.camel@balder.walhalla> <1206099433.10763.19.camel@scorpion> <47E3AFAC.9010408@lavignotte.org> <1206104685.17154.16.camel@balder.walhalla> Message-ID: <1206109057.17154.21.camel@balder.walhalla> Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 14:04 +0100, Fabrice ALPHONSO a ?crit : > Le vendredi 21 mars 2008 ? 13:53 +0100, jacques a ?crit : > > Damien Sandras a ?crit : > > > And if you have 10 accounts configured, how to present that in an > > > efficient way ? > > > > Maybe I missed something but : > > > > Is there ?Active account at the moment? concept ? > > You can have several accounts of differents SIP or H323 providers to > which you can be subscribed at the same time. > But there is only one you have as "preferred" and thru which all your > call will by default pass except if in the URL field you specify > XXXX at your_provider. > > for example you subscribed an account to ekiga.net an account to > SIP1_provider and SIP2_provider. > > if your default account is ekiga.net, if you just call "sip:500" > the call will be interpreted as "sip:500 at ekiga.net". > if you wanted to call the user 500 from the provider SIP1_provider you > should have explicitely had to write "sip:500 at SIP1_provider" in the URL > field. > > > So Damien's question was how to display efficiently the information you > request for for someone who has dozen of accounts. All the accounts can > be registered at the same time. So which one displaying ? > All ? would give an awfull GUI, wouldn't it ? > > My proposal was, thus, only the default one. > > my 2?, > > Fabrice > > > > > J > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > ekiga-button > >
> > src="http://manuxlinux.googlepages.com/appelez-moi.png"> > > > ekiga-button
From guru at Sisis.de Sun Mar 23 18:13:19 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:13:19 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] OSS plugin of /usr/ports/devel/pwlib in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20080323181319.GA48970@rebelion.Sisis.de> Hello, The art of pick-up the filename of the audio device conflicts with other applications of the desktop using the (virtual) audio channels; the filename should just be "/dev/dsp0" for FreeBSD and the rest is handled via the devfs(5) file system; a patch like the below works for me fine and Ekiga plays sound parallel to the apps of KDE. Feliz Pascuas / Happy Eastern matthias # diff -c plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx.70r plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx *** plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx.70r 2008-03-23 16:09:49.000000000 +0100 --- plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx 2008-03-23 18:06:05.000000000 +0100 *************** *** 399,404 **** --- 399,413 ---- PINDEX cardnum = numbers.AsInteger(); //dspN.M is truncated to dspN. // If we have not yet inserted something for this cardnum, insert it if (dsp.GetAt(cardnum+1) == NULL) { + #if defined P_FREEBSD + // in FreeBSD the file name should be used via the devfs(5) and + // is just "/dev/dsp0" and devfs(5) takes care of virtual channels, + // like /dev/dsp0.0 /dev/dsp0.1 ... + // everything else would conflict with other KDE apps using the + // audio + devname = devdir + "dsp0"; + PTRACE(1, "OSS\tCollectSoundDevices FreeBSD devname set to devfs(5) name:" << devname ); + #endif dsp.SetAt(cardnum+1, devname); } } -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From guru at Sisis.de Mon Mar 24 08:18:58 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:18:58 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout Message-ID: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> Maybe a dump question, but I don't see how to get the lates Ekiga directly via 'svn checkout ....'; I only see CVS snapshots, for example in http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/ Do I overlook something or are these snapshots the desired method to get the latest versions? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Mon Mar 24 09:29:05 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:29:05 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout In-Reply-To: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> Le lundi 24 mars 2008 ? 09:18 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > Maybe a dump question, but I don't see how to get the lates Ekiga > directly via 'svn checkout ....'; I only see CVS snapshots, for example > in http://snapshots.voxgratia.org/ Do I overlook something or are these > snapshots the desired method to get the latest versions? Thx > > matthias Hi Matthias, as far as I know, the snapshots are not anymore generated. The way you can have svn checkout is to follow the instructions from the wiki page : http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page#Developers_Corner Hth, Fabrice From guru at Sisis.de Mon Mar 24 13:15:20 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:15:20 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout In-Reply-To: <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> Message-ID: <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Monday, March 24, 2008 a las 10:29:05AM +0100, Fabrice ALPHONSO escribi?: > Hi Matthias, > as far as I know, the snapshots are not anymore generated. > The way you can have svn checkout is to follow the instructions from the > wiki page : > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page#Developers_Corner > > Hth, > > Fabrice Hi Fabrice, Thanks for this hint; I've pulled out Ekiga now via SVN but can not configure it for building; in ./autogen.sh I've corrected the ACLOCAL_FLAGS to point to /usr/local/share/aclocal: ACLOCAL_FLAGS="$ACLOCAL_FLAGS -I /usr/local/share/aclocal" and: $ ./autogen.sh --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --prefix=/usr/local/ --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-doc complains with the messages below; the mentioned m4 files are in /usr/local/share/aclocal; any idea what is wrong with this? Am I the 1st one building it on FreeBSD from SVN trunk? Thx in advance matthias checking for autoconf >= 2.53... testing autoconf2.50... autoconf2.50: not found not found. testing autoconf... found 2.61 checking for automake >= 1.8... testing automake-1.10... found 1.10 checking for libtool >= 1.4.3... testing libtoolize... found 1.5.24 checking for glib-gettext >= 2.2.0... testing glib-gettextize... found 2.14.2 checking for intltool >= 0.25... testing intltoolize... found 0.36.3 checking for pkg-config >= 0.14.0... testing pkg-config... found 0.22 checking for gnome-doc-utils >= 0.4.2... testing gnome-doc-prepare... found 0.12.2 Checking for required M4 macros... Checking for forbidden M4 macros... Processing ./configure.ac Running libtoolize... You should add the contents of `/usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'. Running glib-gettextize... Ignore non-fatal messages. Copying file mkinstalldirs Copying file po/Makefile.in.in Please add the files codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 progtest.m4 from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. Running intltoolize... Running gnome-doc-prepare... You should add the contents of '/usr/local/share/aclocal/gnome-doc-utils.m4' to 'aclocal.m4'. Running aclocal-1.10... /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SMPEG /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal /usr/local/bin/gm4:/usr/local/share/aclocal/pilot-link.m4:1: ERROR: end of file in string autom4te-2.61: /usr/local/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal-1.10: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 25 06:28:09 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:28:09 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout In-Reply-To: <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Monday, March 24, 2008 a las 02:15:20PM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribi?: > $ ./autogen.sh --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --prefix=/usr/local/ --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-doc > > complains with the messages below; the mentioned m4 files are in > /usr/local/share/aclocal; any idea what is wrong with this? > > Am I the 1st one building it on FreeBSD from SVN trunk? > > Thx in advance > > matthias > > checking for autoconf >= 2.53... > testing autoconf2.50... autoconf2.50: not found > not found. > testing autoconf... found 2.61 > checking for automake >= 1.8... > testing automake-1.10... found 1.10 > checking for libtool >= 1.4.3... > testing libtoolize... found 1.5.24 > checking for glib-gettext >= 2.2.0... > testing glib-gettextize... found 2.14.2 > checking for intltool >= 0.25... > testing intltoolize... found 0.36.3 > checking for pkg-config >= 0.14.0... > testing pkg-config... found 0.22 > checking for gnome-doc-utils >= 0.4.2... > testing gnome-doc-prepare... found 0.12.2 > Checking for required M4 macros... > Checking for forbidden M4 macros... > Processing ./configure.ac > Running libtoolize... > You should add the contents of `/usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'. > Running glib-gettextize... Ignore non-fatal messages. > Copying file mkinstalldirs > Copying file po/Makefile.in.in > > Please add the files > codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 > progtest.m4 > from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory > or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. > You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. > > Running intltoolize... > Running gnome-doc-prepare... > You should add the contents of '/usr/local/share/aclocal/gnome-doc-utils.m4' to 'aclocal.m4'. > Running aclocal-1.10... > /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SMPEG > /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' > /usr/local/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal > /usr/local/bin/gm4:/usr/local/share/aclocal/pilot-link.m4:1: ERROR: end of file in string > autom4te-2.61: /usr/local/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 > aclocal-1.10: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 The error concerning '/usr/local/share/aclocal/pilot-link.m4' goes away by deleting the port /usr/ports/palm/pilot-link, i.e. is not caused by Ekiga; $ ./autogen.sh --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --with-opal-dir=/usr/local --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc/ --disable-doc --disable-ldap --includedir=/usr/local/include --with-ptlib-dir=/usr/local stops now with: ... checking for PWLib includes in /usr/local/include/... checking for read in -lpt... yes checking for PWLib version... configure: error: Sorry but the recommended PWLib version is 2.3.0 dto. for OPAL after faking the test to positive for PWLib; the versions installed in FreeBSD are: $ pkg_info | egrep 'opal|pwlib' opal-2.2.11 VoIP abstraction library pwlib-1.12.0_1,1 A cross platform C++ library, used by OpenH323 are they good enough and the above is only a 'recommendation' or is compiling PWLib and OPAL from SVN too a must? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org Tue Mar 25 11:43:39 2008 From: fabrice at alphonso.dyndns.org (Fabrice ALPHONSO) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:39 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout In-Reply-To: <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206445419.21343.2.camel@balder.walhalla> Le mardi 25 mars 2008 ? 07:28 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : .../... > $ ./autogen.sh --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local --with-opal-dir=/usr/local > --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc/ --disable-doc --disable-ldap > --includedir=/usr/local/include --with-ptlib-dir=/usr/local > > stops now with: > > ... > checking for PWLib includes in /usr/local/include/... > checking for read in -lpt... yes > checking for PWLib version... configure: error: Sorry but the recommended PWLib version is 2.3.0 > > dto. for OPAL after faking the test to positive for PWLib; > the versions installed in FreeBSD are: > > $ pkg_info | egrep 'opal|pwlib' > opal-2.2.11 VoIP abstraction library > pwlib-1.12.0_1,1 A cross platform C++ library, used by OpenH323 > > are they good enough and the above is only a 'recommendation' or is > compiling PWLib and OPAL from SVN too a must? YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T FAKE THE TEST FOR PWLIB !!!!! If you want Ekiga SVN, you MUST have pwlib (now ptlib btw) and oapl from the svn checkout as said on the wiki page i gave you the link before. Just follow the wiki page to compile everything from svn (adapting it to FreeBSD). Hth, Fabrice > > thx > > matthias From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 25 11:54:26 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:54:26 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] getting Ekiga via svn checkout In-Reply-To: <1206445419.21343.2.camel@balder.walhalla> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206445419.21343.2.camel@balder.walhalla> Message-ID: <20080325115426.GA20265@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Tuesday, March 25, 2008 a las 12:43:39PM +0100, Fabrice ALPHONSO escribi?: > YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T FAKE THE TEST FOR PWLIB !!!!! > If you want Ekiga SVN, you MUST have pwlib (now ptlib btw) and oapl from > the > svn checkout as said on the wiki page i gave you the link before. > Just follow the wiki page to compile everything from svn (adapting it to > FreeBSD). I obey and will not fake it anymore :-) I've fetched already this morning PTLib from SVN and configured this way: $ ./configure --enable-plugins --enable-v4l=yes --enable-bsdvideo=no --enable-sunaudio=no --enable-oss=yes --enable-opal --prefix=/usr/local --disable-sdl CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include/' after this most of the stuff compiles fine, until it detects dependencies from own header files in /usr/local/include/... which at this moment not have been installed: ... g++ -D_REENTRANT -fno-exceptions -I/usr/local/include/ -Wall -DNDEBUG -I/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/include -Os -I/usr/local/include/ -c switch.cxx -o /usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/switch.o gmake[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h', needed by `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/assert.o'. Stop. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/src/ptlib/unix' gmake[1]: *** [opt] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib' gmake: *** [optshared] Error 2 these are the objects which have been compiled fine before: $ ls /usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r *.dep enum.o jidctflt.o pnat.o pwavfile.o tinyjpeg.o videoio.o asner.o getdate.tab.o memfile.o pssl.o qchannel.o tlib.o config.o guid.o notifier_ext.o pstun.o random.o udll.o cypher.o http.o osutil.o ptts.o sockagg.o uicmp.o channel.o httpclnt.o pasn.o pvfiledev.o socket.o url.o delaychan.o inetprot.o pdns.o pvidchan.o sound.o vconvert.o dtmf.o ipacl.o pipechan.o pvidfile.o switch.o vfakeio.o a 'gmake -d' says: ... Considering target file `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/assert.o'. File `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/assert.o' does not exist. Looking for an implicit rule for `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/assert.o'. Trying pattern rule with stem `assert'. Trying implicit prerequisite `assert.cxx'. Found an implicit rule for `/usr/home/guru/Ekiga/ptlib/lib/obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/assert.o'. Pruning file `assert.cxx'. Pruning file `assert.cxx'. Considering target file `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h'. File `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h' does not exist. Looking for an implicit rule for `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h'. Trying pattern rule with stem `ptlib.h'. Trying implicit prerequisite `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h,v'. Trying pattern rule with stem `ptlib.h'. Trying implicit prerequisite `/usr/local/include/RCS/ptlib.h,v'. Trying pattern rule with stem `ptlib.h'. Trying implicit prerequisite `/usr/local/include/RCS/ptlib.h'. Trying pattern rule with stem `ptlib.h'. Trying implicit prerequisite `/usr/local/include/s.ptlib.h'. Trying pattern rule with stem `ptlib.h'. Trying implicit prerequisite `/usr/local/include/SCCS/s.ptlib.h'. No implicit rule found for `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h'. Finished prerequisites of target file `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h'. Must remake target `/usr/local/include/ptlib.h'. looks like something is missing in the Makefiles; I have copied over the header files to /usr/local/include/... and then the rest compiles fine; any comments? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From guru at Sisis.de Tue Mar 25 16:17:01 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:17:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st tests with SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080325115426.GA20265@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206445419.21343.2.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080325115426.GA20265@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080325161701.GA10677@rebelion.Sisis.de> Hello, I've got SVN versions of PTLib, OPAL and Ekiga build on FreeBSD with some minor changes and with the following configures (maybe it is worth to start also some small chapter for 'How to build on FreeBSD' in the Wiki?): PTLib: ./configure --enable-plugins \ --enable-v4l \ --enable-bsdvideo=no \ --enable-sunaudio=no \ --enable-oss=yes \ --enable-opal \ --prefix=/usr/local \ --disable-sdl \ CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include/' CFLAGS='-DP_FREEBSD' CFLAGS='-DP_FREEBSD' gmake gmake install OPAL: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local \ CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/local/include" \ CFLAGS="-DP_FREEBSD -I/usr/local/include" gmake gmake install Ekiga: ./autogen.sh --with-pwlib-dir=/usr/local \ --with-opal-dir=/usr/local \ --prefix=/usr/local \ --sysconfdir=/usr/local/etc/ \ --disable-doc \ --disable-ldap \ --disable-dbus \ --includedir=/usr/local/include \ --with-ptlib-dir=/usr/local \ CFLAGS="-I /usr/local/include" \ CXXFLAGS="-I /usr/local/include" \ GMSGFMT=/usr/local/bin/msgfmt gmake gmake install the resulting Ekiga works a bit :-) good news 1st: - Ekiga starts and registers to my account in ekiga.net - shows fine the local video via the V4L plugin bad news and/or problems: - it produces a lot of error message on start, like (ekiga:10880): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (ekiga:10880): libebook-CRITICAL **: e_book_is_opened: assertion `E_IS_BOOK (book)' failed - it can not make a call to 500 at ekiga.net should I post the output of 'ekiga -d 3' to the list? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From sevmek at free.fr Tue Mar 25 17:13:33 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:13:33 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st tests with SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080325161701.GA10677@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080324081858.GA4626@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206350945.6525.4.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080324131519.GA89574@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080325062809.GA87768@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206445419.21343.2.camel@balder.walhalla> <20080325115426.GA20265@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080325161701.GA10677@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206465214.765.2.camel@achille> Le mardi 25 mars 2008 ? 17:17 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > maybe it is worth to > start also some small chapter for 'How to build on FreeBSD' in the > Wiki? Your request has been taken in account, you'll receive a mail shortly. Regards, Yannick -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 26 15:51:37 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:51:37 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st working SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> After a lot of debugging I have now a 1st version of Ekiga build from SVN which works a bit, 'a bit means': - it shows the video with V4L and plays sound with OSS - it connects to 500 at ekiga.net and echo's my voice correctly the problems are: - 8x error messages of this text on boot of Ekiga: (ekiga:61309): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_get_bool: assertion `value->type == GCONF_VALUE_BOOL' failed I have no idea where they come from and what they mean - a X11 caused message like: 2008/03/26 16:43:12.127 0:09.801 GMDisplayM...0x29bd8d00 X11 Unhandeled X Event MapNotify (19) received - Ekiga sometimes starts with a complete grey window, no buttons on it; 'sometimes' let me think in some uninitialized variables; - I can't terminate a call to 500 at ekiga.net without killing the application; the hang-up button has no affect; will dig into this first; Any comments/hints for the above problems? Thx I've also already started to write some stuff in the Wiki: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php?title=Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD comments/corrections are welcome; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From jpuydt at free.fr Wed Mar 26 16:34:08 2008 From: jpuydt at free.fr (Julien Puydt) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:34:08 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st working SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <47EA7B00.6040405@free.fr> Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > - 8x error messages of this text on boot of Ekiga: > (ekiga:61309): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_get_bool: assertion `value->type == GCONF_VALUE_BOOL' failed > I have no idea where they come from and what they mean That one isn't normal but isn't freebsd-specific : don't worry too much about it ;-) Snark PS: wouldn't it be more a discussion for ekiga-devel more than ekiga-user? From sevmek at free.fr Wed Mar 26 16:52:51 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:52:51 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st working SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206550372.765.11.camel@achille> Le mercredi 26 mars 2008 ? 16:51 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > After a lot of debugging I have now a 1st version of Ekiga build from > SVN which works a bit, 'a bit means': > > - it shows the video with V4L and plays sound with OSS > - it connects to 500 at ekiga.net and echo's my voice correctly > > the problems are: > > - 8x error messages of this text on boot of Ekiga: > (ekiga:61309): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_get_bool: assertion `value->type == GCONF_VALUE_BOOL' failed > I have no idea where they come from and what they mean > Hi, When you build Ekiga, you use those flags: --disable-gnome --enable-gconf It seems to me you might try to disable gconf, as GConf is a system for storing application preferences for the gnome desktop. see: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ AFAIK, if you disable gconf at compile time, ekiga will use a file to store its configuration. I think Snark is responsible for that... Regards, Yannick > - a X11 caused message like: > 2008/03/26 16:43:12.127 0:09.801 GMDisplayM...0x29bd8d00 X11 Unhandeled X Event MapNotify (19) received > > - Ekiga sometimes starts with a complete grey window, GConf is a system for storing application preferencesno buttons on it; > 'sometimes' let me think in some uninitialized variables; > > - I can't terminate a call to 500 at ekiga.net without killing the > application; the hang-up button has no affect;GConf is a system for storing application preferences > will dig into this first; > > Any comments/hints for the above problems? Thx > > I've also already started to write some stuff in the Wiki: > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php?title=Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD > comments/corrections are welcome; > > matthias > -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From guru at Sisis.de Wed Mar 26 17:40:32 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:40:32 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] 1st working SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1206550372.765.11.camel@achille> References: <20080326155137.GA61298@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206550372.765.11.camel@achille> Message-ID: <20080326174032.GA1885@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 26, 2008 a las 05:52:51PM +0100, yannick escribi?: > > Le mercredi 26 mars 2008 ? 16:51 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > > After a lot of debugging I have now a 1st version of Ekiga build from > > SVN which works a bit, 'a bit means': > > > > - it shows the video with V4L and plays sound with OSS > > - it connects to 500 at ekiga.net and echo's my voice correctly > > > > the problems are: > > > > - 8x error messages of this text on boot of Ekiga: > > (ekiga:61309): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_get_bool: assertion `value->type == GCONF_VALUE_BOOL' failed > > I have no idea where they come from and what they mean > > > > Hi, > > When you build Ekiga, you use those flags: > --disable-gnome > --enable-gconf > > It seems to me you might try to disable gconf, as GConf is a system for storing application preferences for the gnome desktop. > see: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ > > AFAIK, if you disable gconf at compile time, ekiga will use a file to store its configuration. I think Snark is responsible for that... > > Regards, > Yannick Hi, This (--disable-gconf) was my 1st idea and test too, but in this case Ekiga SIG_SEGV'ed. CU matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From guru at Sisis.de Thu Mar 27 13:49:12 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:49:12 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080327134912.GA36263@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 05:25:13PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, > but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. > > Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try > the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It > will probably work better. Hi Damien, I've compiled from SVN and it seems that H.264 is available: $ ../ekiga/src/ekiga -d 1 --sync ... dyna.cxx(98) H263+ DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 h263-1998.cxx(907) H263+ Codec Enabled dyna.cxx(98) MPEG4 DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 mpeg4.cxx(2028) MPEG4 Codec Enabled dyna.cxx(98) H264 DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 h264pipe_unix.cxx(285) H264 IPC PP: Couldn't find GPL process executable in /usr/lib/ptlib/codecs/video/h264_video_pwplugin_helper h264pipe_unix.cxx(289) H264 IPC PP: Found GPL process executable in /usr/local/lib/ptlib/codecs/video/h264_video_pwplugin_helper x264loader_unix.cxx(123) H264 DYNA Successfully loaded libx264.so.50 h264pipe_unix.cxx(118) H264 IPC PP: Successfully forked child process 36214 and established communication h264-x264.cxx(775) H264 Codec Enabled h263-1998.cxx(907) H263+ Codec Enabled mpeg4.cxx(2028) MPEG4 Codec Enabled h264-x264.cxx(775) H264 Codec Enabled But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? How can I use this with the VSX in this case? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 27 14:24:54 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:24:54 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080327134912.GA36263@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080327134912.GA36263@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206627894.5627.28.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 27 mars 2008 ? 14:49 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Wednesday, March 19, 2008 a las 05:25:13PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > Most probably it can not decode the stream sent by Ekiga, > > but as the VSX is not Open Source, I can't really tell why. > > > > Unfortunately, I can not really help with that. Perhaps you should try > > the SVN Trunk version of Ekiga, it supports other codecs like H.264. It > > will probably work better. > > > Hi Damien, > > I've compiled from SVN and it seems that H.264 is available: > > $ ../ekiga/src/ekiga -d 1 --sync > ... > dyna.cxx(98) H263+ DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 > h263-1998.cxx(907) H263+ Codec Enabled > dyna.cxx(98) MPEG4 DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 > mpeg4.cxx(2028) MPEG4 Codec Enabled > dyna.cxx(98) H264 DYNA Successfully loaded libavcodec.so.1 > h264pipe_unix.cxx(285) H264 IPC PP: Couldn't find GPL process executable in /usr/lib/ptlib/codecs/video/h264_video_pwplugin_helper > h264pipe_unix.cxx(289) H264 IPC PP: Found GPL process executable in /usr/local/lib/ptlib/codecs/video/h264_video_pwplugin_helper > x264loader_unix.cxx(123) H264 DYNA Successfully loaded libx264.so.50 > h264pipe_unix.cxx(118) H264 IPC PP: Successfully forked child process 36214 and established communication > h264-x264.cxx(775) H264 Codec Enabled > h263-1998.cxx(907) H263+ Codec Enabled > mpeg4.cxx(2028) MPEG4 Codec Enabled > h264-x264.cxx(775) H264 Codec Enabled > > But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that > H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? > How can I use this with the VSX in this case? Ah, I'll leave this for Matthias, but I think H.264 support for H.323 is not complete. I had forgotten about that one, sorry :( -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From guru at Sisis.de Thu Mar 27 15:10:36 2008 From: guru at Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:10:36 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1206627894.5627.28.camel@scorpion> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080327134912.GA36263@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206627894.5627.28.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <20080327151036.GA37933@rebelion.Sisis.de> El d?a Thursday, March 27, 2008 a las 03:24:54PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > > But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that > > H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? > > How can I use this with the VSX in this case? > > Ah, I'll leave this for Matthias, but I think H.264 support for H.323 is > not complete. I had forgotten about that one, sorry :( Is it far away of beeing complete? For me it is important to get that H.323 on FreeBSD connected to our company conference system VSX... thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 27 15:11:47 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:11:47 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080327151036.GA37933@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080319095205.GA3271@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205922565.4143.5.camel@scorpion> <20080319104800.GA4625@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319120946.GB25111@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080319135810.GB39803@energistic.com> <20080319161113.GA32599@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1205943913.32728.20.camel@scorpion> <20080327134912.GA36263@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1206627894.5627.28.camel@scorpion> <20080327151036.GA37933@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <1206630707.5627.34.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 27 mars 2008 ? 16:10 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > El d?a Thursday, March 27, 2008 a las 03:24:54PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > > > > > But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that > > > H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? > > > How can I use this with the VSX in this case? > > > > Ah, I'll leave this for Matthias, but I think H.264 support for H.323 is > > not complete. I had forgotten about that one, sorry :( > > Is it far away of beeing complete? For me it is important to get that > H.323 on FreeBSD connected to our company conference system VSX... > thx I have no idea. Perhaps Craig (in CC) can tell. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From oberman at es.net Thu Mar 27 18:14:36 2008 From: oberman at es.net (Kevin Oberman) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:14:36 -0700 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:10:36 BST." <20080327151036.GA37933@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20080327181436.21FDC4500F@ptavv.es.net> > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:10:36 +0100 > From: Matthias Apitz > Sender: ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org > > El d?a Thursday, March 27, 2008 a las 03:24:54PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi?: > > > > > > > But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that > > > H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? > > > How can I use this with the VSX in this case? > > > > Ah, I'll leave this for Matthias, but I think H.264 support for H.323 is > > not complete. I had forgotten about that one, sorry :( > > Is it far away of beeing complete? For me it is important to get that > H.323 on FreeBSD connected to our company conference system VSX... > thx Just so folks know, Matthias is not the only one needing this. I have been looking for this for some time. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman at es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Le dimanche 23 mars 2008 ? 19:13 +0100, Matthias Apitz a ?crit : > Hello, > > The art of pick-up the filename of the audio device conflicts with other > applications of the desktop using the (virtual) audio channels; the > filename should just be "/dev/dsp0" for FreeBSD and the rest is handled > via the devfs(5) file system; a patch like the below works for me fine > and Ekiga plays sound parallel to the apps of KDE. > > Feliz Pascuas / Happy Eastern > > matthias > > # diff -c plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx.70r plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx > *** plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx.70r 2008-03-23 16:09:49.000000000 +0100 > --- plugins/sound_oss/sound_oss.cxx 2008-03-23 18:06:05.000000000 +0100 > *************** > *** 399,404 **** > --- 399,413 ---- > PINDEX cardnum = numbers.AsInteger(); //dspN.M is truncated to dspN. > // If we have not yet inserted something for this cardnum, insert it > if (dsp.GetAt(cardnum+1) == NULL) { > + #if defined P_FREEBSD > + // in FreeBSD the file name should be used via the devfs(5) and > + // is just "/dev/dsp0" and devfs(5) takes care of virtual channels, > + // like /dev/dsp0.0 /dev/dsp0.1 ... > + // everything else would conflict with other KDE apps using the > + // audio > + devname = devdir + "dsp0"; > + PTRACE(1, "OSS\tCollectSoundDevices FreeBSD devname set to devfs(5) name:" << devname ); > + #endif > dsp.SetAt(cardnum+1, devname); > } > } > -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Thu Mar 27 18:33:01 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:33:01 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga && V4L && FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20080327181436.21FDC4500F@ptavv.es.net> References: <20080327181436.21FDC4500F@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <1206642781.4145.4.camel@scorpion> Le jeudi 27 mars 2008 ? 11:14 -0700, Kevin Oberman a ?crit : > > Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:10:36 +0100 > > From: Matthias Apitz > > Sender: ekiga-list-bounces at gnome.org > > > > El da Thursday, March 27, 2008 a las 03:24:54PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribi: > > > > > > > > > > But in the preferences of ekiga I see in the Codecs window that > > > > H.264 is available only for SIP, but not for H.323 calls???? > > > > How can I use this with the VSX in this case? > > > > > > Ah, I'll leave this for Matthias, but I think H.264 support for H.323 is > > > not complete. I had forgotten about that one, sorry :( > > > > Is it far away of beeing complete? For me it is important to get that > > H.323 on FreeBSD connected to our company conference system VSX... > > thx > > Just so folks know, Matthias is not the only one needing this. I have > been looking for this for some time. Craig and Robert were supposed to work on the H.323 definition of the capabilities. But I do not know what's the status of their work... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 27 21:11:48 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:11:48 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype Message-ID: I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP programs and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the same hardware/software and internet connection. dee _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michel.memeteau at gmail.com Fri Mar 28 07:30:07 2008 From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:30:07 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb wrote: > > I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP > programs > and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it > works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly > the > same hardware/software and internet connection. > > dee > > ________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- %<------------------------------------------------------->% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Fri Mar 28 13:13:27 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:13:27 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything.... Core2Duo 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy on a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other VoIP software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as regular phone, and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a number of times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but that is separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is really good, despite also having a webcam. Dee > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:30:07 +0100 > From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com > To: ekiga-list at gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype > > Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ? > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb wrote: > > > > I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP > > programs > > and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it > > works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on > > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a > > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly > > the > > same hardware/software and internet connection. > > > > dee > > > > ________________________________ > > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. > > _______________________________________________ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list at gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > > > -- > %<------------------------------------------------------->% > Michel memeteau > Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr > Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 > VOIP | Visio: sip:freechelmi at gizmoproject.com > jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:freechelmi at jabber.fr > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _________________________________________________________________ Watch ?Cause Effect,? a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oopla at users.sf.net Fri Mar 28 13:26:30 2008 From: oopla at users.sf.net (Paolo) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080328132629.GB25908@localhost> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +0000, D Webb wrote: ... > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the > same hardware/software and internet connection. remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server. In skype you've no control on number of connections it makes to other nodes, nor how much bandwith it takes up; and skype's streams are encrypted, which means longer drops may occur in case of channel congestion. Moreover, if all goes 'well', your instance may act as a 'supernode' hence taking most of your bw. In some situations, all the rest been equal, such cases may lead to poor performance on the channel you're talking. There are likely other possible explanations for what you see, these are just a few points. -- paolo GPG/PGP id:0x3A47DE45 - B5F9 AAA0 44BD 2B63 81E0 971F C6C0 0B87 3A47 DE45 - 9/11: the outrageous deception and ongoing coverup: http://911review.org - From edunagin at gmail.com Fri Mar 28 23:49:25 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:49:25 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM, D Webb wrote: > > This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything.... > Core2Duo > 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga > 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy > on > a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other > VoIP > software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as > regular phone, > and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a > number of > times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but > that is > separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is > really good, > despite also having a webcam. Hello Dee, WOW a 56 K modem connection. Ekiga gives me audio fits when video works and I have a broadband connection. Peace.................ed ********************snip***************************** Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sat Mar 29 00:39:47 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:39:47 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) In-Reply-To: <20080328132629.GB25908@localhost> References: <20080328132629.GB25908@localhost> Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100 > To: ekiga-list at gnome.org > From: oopla at users.sf.net > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +0000, D Webb wrote: > ... > > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a > > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the > > same hardware/software and internet connection. > > remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server. Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are insightful. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sergstesh at yahoo.com Sat Mar 29 06:48:04 2008 From: sergstesh at yahoo.com (Sergei Steshenko) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <943898.7343.qm@web35202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- D Webb wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100 > > To: ekiga-list at gnome.org > > From: oopla at users.sf.net > > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +0000, D Webb wrote: > > ... > > > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a > > > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the > > > same hardware/software and internet connection. > > > > remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server. > > Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through > a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are insightful. > > Dee > Skype can at its own discretion decide to use your connection to route traffic of somebody else. Ekiga, I think, has adjustable jitter buffer, which sometimes really improves quality at the expense of latency. Skype uses pretty wide band codec; Ekiga gives you a choice, so bandwidth can be better utilized. Regards, Sergei. Applications From Scratch: http://appsfromscratch.berlios.de/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text1.com From j.minekus at fiberworld.nl Sat Mar 29 08:12:10 2008 From: j.minekus at fiberworld.nl (Hans Minekus) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:12:10 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/3/29, Edward Dunagin : > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle > anything.... > > Core2Duo > > 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and > Ekiga > > 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real > choppy > > on > > a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with > other > > VoIP > > software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as > > regular phone, > > and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it > a > > number of > > times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but > > that is > > separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound > is > > really good, > > despite also having a webcam. Hello, I follow the discussion with great interst. I use Skype and VoIPBuster a lot, because the children and family of my wife live in the States, Australia and China. However, until now I am not able to get Ekiga working. The webcam is not working, and I found out that I have to pay for the calls using Ekiga. (home phoners/fixed). Question: I am a real newbee, any reamrks concerning the items I wrote above. Please comment. HAns Minekus Hello Dee, > > WOW a 56 K modem connection. Ekiga gives me audio fits when video > works and I have a broadband connection. > > Peace.................ed > > ********************snip***************************** > > > > Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan > Bozeman, MT 59718 > mobile 406-570-0992 > Landline 406-556-7282 > VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp > http://doas.montanalinux.org > > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- thank you for your message will answer asap j.minekus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plow at talk21.com Sat Mar 29 11:36:03 2008 From: plow at talk21.com (len) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc Message-ID: <747710.99523.qm@web87014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm a fan of the ekiga softphone using Ubuntu. Now I have an EEEPC (tiny laptop) using a Xandros o/s. I downloaded ekiga from the respository and installed ok. However, the audio reception is very choppy and makes the programme unusable. In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried different codex's but no change. I closed all other progs. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Skype works fine. Using ekiga the transmission was ok and not choppy, just the reception.... Thanks __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sat Mar 29 15:28:39 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:28:39 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I follow the discussion with great interst. I use Skype and VoIPBuster a lot, because the children and family of my wife live in the States, Australia and China. However, until now I am not able to get Ekiga working. The webcam is not working, and I found out that I have to pay for the calls using Ekiga. (home phoners/fixed). Question: I am a real newbee, any reamrks concerning the items I wrote above. Please comment. HAns Minekus ----------------- There are a lot of VoIP programs out there these days. I decided to follow Ekiga because I support the open software concept. Ekiga has thus far been offered to the world as a very generous gift. Of the programs I have tested, Ekiga is proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are having problems getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 that comes with recent distro of Gnome under Linux Slackware 12.0 and kernel 2.6.21. I have not yet complete success yet with this OS or FreeBSD 7.0. I also failed to get it to work under Windows, but this might only be because of some mis-understandings. I think you need to install GTK+ to get it to work in Windows, but following the chage-logs, I got idea Ekiga should not depend on GTK because there were some comments about removing the error message about requiring GTK. What OS are you using? Others, There is no error, I actually have gotten very good sound quality with a 56K modem. Ekiga is crashing for now and I am trying to solve this. However, I can say with great certainty the sound quality has been very good when Ekiga does not crash. Interesting point that Skype was originally described as working well with no more than a modem connection. I have never once experienced that. It seems Ekiga has some efficiency that ends up benefiting the end user in terms of efficiency and sound quality, which is why I want to see this go. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Watch ?Cause Effect,? a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpuydt at free.fr Sat Mar 29 15:50:00 2008 From: jpuydt at free.fr (Julien Puydt) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:50:00 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc In-Reply-To: <747710.99523.qm@web87014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <747710.99523.qm@web87014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47EE6528.2060708@free.fr> len a ?crit : > In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried different codex's but no change. If the sound is already bad in test mode, I would say it's the audio driver which has a problem... Try to launch ekiga from a terminal to see if it prints warnings. Snark on #ekiga From dsandras at seconix.com Sat Mar 29 15:53:31 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:53:31 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> Le samedi 29 mars 2008 ? 15:28 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : [...] > proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are > having problems > getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 > that We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Sat Mar 29 15:54:09 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:54:09 +0100 Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc In-Reply-To: <47EE6528.2060708@free.fr> References: <747710.99523.qm@web87014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <47EE6528.2060708@free.fr> Message-ID: <1206806049.4114.20.camel@scorpion> Le samedi 29 mars 2008 ? 16:50 +0100, Julien Puydt a ?crit : > len a ?crit : > > In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried different > codex's but no change. > > If the sound is already bad in test mode, I would say it's the audio > driver which has a problem... Try to launch ekiga from a terminal to see > if it prints warnings. > Also try changing the audio device : - Default for input and output - Direct sound card access for input and output -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 30 00:01:25 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:01:25 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: > > proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are > > having problems > > getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 > > that > > We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has > always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. > -- > _ Damien Sandras I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to other software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty much standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga won't work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under Windows. I know of one report of someone getting Ekiga to work under Ubuntu, and I am thinking to give that a try, although I do not yet understand why the distribution would make a difference, assuming they are all using ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and failed, so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for specifics from others. I already reported the alsa-lib problem. I certainly do not want to detract in any way from your hard work. Ekiga looks like great software. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 00:22:52 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:22:52 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803291722g679d72daw10dfc35b2307afd0@mail.gmail.com> Hello D, On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, D Webb wrote: > > > > proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are > > > having problems > > > getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 > > > that > > > > We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has > > always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to other > software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty much > standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a > conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga won't > work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet > to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) > or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under Windows. > I know of one report of someone getting Ekiga to work under Ubuntu, > and I am thinking to give that a try, although I do not yet understand why > the distribution would make a difference, assuming they are all using > ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and failed, > so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for specifics > from others. I already reported the alsa-lib problem. I certainly do not > want > to detract in any way from your hard work. Ekiga looks like great > software. I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11. I have a little trouble with the audio at times but usually can work it out to the point of carrying on a conversation. Video has worked fine on my system as well. Many time I suspect the mic on both ends. Mine has been stepped on but I intend to invest in a good one that I can snap to my collar. I an running a P4 with 1GB of ram and 122GB H.D. Lets see if we can't get together on Ekiga and work out your problems. I am in Montana USA with Mounton time. Peace....................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 00:46:09 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:46:09 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] core dump Message-ID: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst. Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed. [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga Any ideas? -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From sergstesh at yahoo.com Sun Mar 30 05:55:26 2008 From: sergstesh at yahoo.com (Sergei Steshenko) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ekiga-list] core dump In-Reply-To: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <545873.44729.qm@web35202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Edward Dunagin wrote: > The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst. > > Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. > > edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: > Assertion `err >= 0' failed. > > [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga > > Any ideas? > > -- > Edward Dunagin-Dunigan > Bozeman, MT 59718 > mobile 406-570-0992 > Landline 406-556-7282 > VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp > http://doas.montanalinux.org > _______________________________________________ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list at gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > I rarely use Ekiga, and it sometimes crashes on my SUSE 10.2 box. Since I use it very rarely, I do not bother to send a report. Regards, Sergei. Applications From Scratch: http://appsfromscratch.berlios.de/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text4.com From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 30 08:02:36 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:02:36 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <2af451740803291722g679d72daw10dfc35b2307afd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803291722g679d72daw10dfc35b2307afd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11. > I have a little trouble with the audio at times but usually can work > it out to the point of carrying on a conversation. Video has worked > fine on my system as well. Many time I suspect the mic on both ends. > Mine has been stepped on but I intend to invest in a good one that I > can snap to my collar. This is yet another report of success with Ubuntu and Ekiga 2.0.11. I now know of one person who got Ekiga to work on Slackware. This was a separate build on a Slackware box that I think he said was not dependent on Gnome that i have yet to locate. I will look into UbuntuStudio 7.10 as well, not sure what that is as compared to Ubuntu distro. Thanks for the tip Me, I am in Sweden. It is believed most Linux users are pretty much everywhere on the planet except USA. Great to see Ubuntu in Montana. Dee _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 30 08:11:04 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:11:04 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] core dump In-Reply-To: <545873.44729.qm@web35202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> <545873.44729.qm@web35202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. > > > > edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: > > Assertion `err >= 0' failed. > > > > [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga > > > > Any ideas? So is this your working (formerly working) UbuntuStudio 7.0 and Ekiga 2.0.11? The assert error is how I ended up on this list. no solution so far, but by all accounts it is a bug in alsa-lib that I have reported with ALSa. I do not get the core dump so far. Any idea if you get the assert error even if Ekiga works fine or if it is directly related to this crash? Dee _________________________________________________________________ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 08:28:48 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:28:48 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 00:01 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are > > > having problems > > > getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 > > > that > > > > We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga > has > > always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to > other > software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty > much > standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a > conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga > won't > work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet > to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) > or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under > Windows. The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. As for the Linux version, I do not think I can agree with you about the numerous instability problems you describe. I agree the ALSA problem is annoying and is reported by several people (that is our number 1 bug). The problem is that nobody having the problem can fix it and ALSA developers do not seem to care about it. The ALSA plugin has been there several years and was working perfectly until they did some change in the library and triggered that bug. Have you tried using the very latest libasound2 version ? Have you tried debugging the problem ? > ?ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and > failed, > so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for > specifics Yes, please ask them to tell us, because we rarely have crash reports (except for the ALSA thing). -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 08:29:21 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:29:21 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] core dump In-Reply-To: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206865761.4297.13.camel@scorpion> Le samedi 29 mars 2008 ? 18:46 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst. > > Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. > > edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: > Assertion `err >= 0' failed. > > [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga > > Any ideas? That's the infamous ALSA bug... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 08:32:39 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:32:39 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206865959.4297.15.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 10:28 +0200, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 00:01 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > > > proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are > > > > having problems > > > > getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 > > > > that > > > > > > We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga > > has > > > always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to > > other > > software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty > > much > > standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a > > conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga > > won't > > work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet > > to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) > > or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under > > Windows. > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > As for the Linux version, I do not think I can agree with you about the > numerous instability problems you describe. > > I agree the ALSA problem is annoying and is reported by several people > (that is our number 1 bug). > > The problem is that nobody having the problem can fix it and ALSA > developers do not seem to care about it. The ALSA plugin has been there > several years and was working perfectly until they did some change in > the library and triggered that bug. > > Have you tried using the very latest libasound2 version ? Also, does it occur with both sound devices (Default and direct access to the sound card) ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From sevmek at free.fr Sun Mar 30 08:43:21 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:43:21 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] core dump In-Reply-To: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803291746kf51b950o16d01f0b3c25cb31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206866601.762.8.camel@achille> Le samedi 29 mars 2008 ? 18:46 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst. > > Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. > > edunagin at HighNet4:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: > Assertion `err >= 0' failed. > > [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga > > Any ideas? > This bug was fixed in the package alsa-plugins - 1.0.15-1ubuntu3 --------------- alsa-plugins (1.0.15-1ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low * Backport remaining pcm_pulse.c patches from hg tip (LP: #112948) that allow Ekiga to work again with PulseAudio - debian/patches/pulse-{minmax,assert}.diff see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948 Regards, Yannick -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Sun Mar 30 15:23:08 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:23:08 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are not that many people using Linux. What is required to be a maintainer? Dee _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 18:14:44 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:14:44 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are > not that many people using Linux. > > What is required to be a maintainer? > I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried to bring up Ekiga again and it crashes. I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and downgrade those two programs. Edward Dunagin-Dunigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 18:16:15 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:16:15 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206900975.4129.1.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 15:23 +0000, D Webb a ?crit : > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer > for > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop > it. > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it > worked on > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just > are > not that many people using Linux. Ekiga is a SIP software, there are other SIP software available on Windows. > What is required to be a maintainer? Being a developer able to fix bugs, propose patches, compile, add missing features that exist on Linux but not on windows. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 18:22:01 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:22:01 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on > > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are > > not that many people using Linux. > > > > What is required to be a maintainer? > > > > I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried to > bring up Ekiga again and it crashes. > I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few > days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio > upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and > downgrade those two programs. You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or in Pulseaudio. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From plow at talk21.com Sun Mar 30 19:10:26 2008 From: plow at talk21.com (len) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:10:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc Message-ID: <949171.86547.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> "Also try changing the audio device : - Default for input and output - Direct sound card access for input and output -- _ Damien Sandras" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I tried the above but it made no difference. I have also installed the basic Xlite for linux and it works with a crackle behind the transmission (but it will do for now!). It's a shame because I like Ekiga especially the multiple sip function, I use one for incoming and one for outgoing. 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URL: From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 19:25:15 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:25:15 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc In-Reply-To: <949171.86547.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <949171.86547.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1206905115.4129.26.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 19:10 +0000, len a ?crit : > "Also try changing the audio device : > - Default for input and output > - Direct sound card access for input and output > -- > _ Damien Sandras" > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I tried the above but it made no difference. > I have also installed the basic Xlite for linux and it works with a crackle behind the transmission (but it will do for now!). > It's a shame because I like Ekiga especially the multiple sip function, I use one for incoming and one for outgoing. I will keep an eye open for updates (please!). Unfortunately, I do not think the problem is at our level... Have you tried contacting eeepc developers? They could have a look (or send one to us so we can fix it). -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From edunagin at gmail.com Sun Mar 30 19:53:23 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:53:23 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > > > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > > > > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on > > > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are > > > not that many people using Linux. > > > > > > What is required to be a maintainer? > > > > > > > I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried to > > bring up Ekiga again and it crashes. > > I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few > > days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio > > upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and > > downgrade those two programs. > > You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or > in Pulseaudio. I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live user. Peace...............ed Edward Dunagin-Dunigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp http://doas.montanalinux.org From sevmek at free.fr Sun Mar 30 19:59:19 2008 From: sevmek at free.fr (yannick) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:59:19 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206907160.13045.1.camel@achille> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 13:53 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it > with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live > user. I'm almost sure the problem is this: http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948 Regards, Yannick -- Me joindre en t?l?phonie IP / vid?oconf?rence ? sip:yannick at ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 19:58:56 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:58:56 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206907136.4129.44.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 13:53 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > > > > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > > > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > > > > > > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on > > > > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are > > > > not that many people using Linux. > > > > > > > > What is required to be a maintainer? > > > > > > > > > > I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried to > > > bring up Ekiga again and it crashes. > > > I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few > > > days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio > > > upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and > > > downgrade those two programs. > > > > You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or > > in Pulseaudio. > > I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it > with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live > user. I have read that bug in their bugtracker and it seems that pulseaudio guys fixed the problem. > VOIP:sip:edunagin at 69.144.82.213:5063;transport=udp Your VoIP address is actually sip:edunagin at ekiga.net -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dsandras at seconix.com Sun Mar 30 20:13:11 2008 From: dsandras at seconix.com (Damien Sandras) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:13:11 +0200 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206907136.4129.44.camel@scorpion> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> <1206907136.4129.44.camel@scorpion> Message-ID: <1206907991.4129.47.camel@scorpion> Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 21:58 +0200, Damien Sandras a ?crit : > Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 13:53 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: > > > Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 ? 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a ?crit : > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for > > > > > > it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a > > > > > > maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. > > > > > > > > > > Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on > > > > > Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are > > > > > not that many people using Linux. > > > > > > > > > > What is required to be a maintainer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried to > > > > bring up Ekiga again and it crashes. > > > > I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few > > > > days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio > > > > upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and > > > > downgrade those two programs. > > > > > > You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or > > > in Pulseaudio. > > > > I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it > > with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live > > user. > > I have read that bug in their bugtracker and it seems that pulseaudio > guys fixed the problem. Notice that I just installed PulseAudio from Debian unstable with libasound2-plugins 1.0.16 and it works well. The only problem is that it increases latency from 40ms in normal conditions to 340ms using PulseAudio. Not sure it is normal but I would not recommend using it :( -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\ Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsandras at ekiga.net From dlw_insulin at hotmail.com Mon Mar 31 08:32:30 2008 From: dlw_insulin at hotmail.com (D Webb) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:32:30 +0000 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: <1206907160.13045.1.camel@achille> References: <2af451740803281649he695949vacdb3b53644f8e93@mail.gmail.com> <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> <1206907160.13045.1.camel@achille> Message-ID: > I'm almost sure the problem is this: > http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948 > > Regards, > Yannick I reported to bugtrack that the patch for report 2601 does not fix the crash I report, nor does it remove the assert error I am getting. Dee _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plow at talk21.com Mon Mar 31 14:17:16 2008 From: plow at talk21.com (len) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:17:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Ekiga-list] eeepc Message-ID: <553928.48233.qm@web87010.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Unfortunately, I do not think the problem is at our level... Have you tried contacting eeepc developers? They could have a look (or send one to us so we can fix it). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now that's a good idea! I'll let you know if I have any luck Thanks --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edunagin at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 16:55:41 2008 From: edunagin at gmail.com (Edward Dunagin) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:55:41 -0600 Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype In-Reply-To: References: <1206806011.4114.18.camel@scorpion> <1206865728.4297.11.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301114j62a51fads533702e3d53de6e5@mail.gmail.com> <1206901321.4129.3.camel@scorpion> <2af451740803301253re934b9cic3b8be19a9b47971@mail.gmail.com> <1206907160.13045.1.camel@achille> Message-ID: <2af451740803310955k1aff7bf3q35c8a8863418dfe2@mail.gmail.com> Hello Dee, On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:32 AM, D Webb wrote: > > > I'm almost sure the problem is this: > > http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 > > http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23 > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948 > > > > Regards, > > Yannick > > > I reported to bugtrack that the patch for report 2601 does not > fix the crash I report, nor does it remove the assert error I am > getting. I don't know wheather you saw the report I gave, but when I removed PulseVideo from my system, it corrected my problem. At least testing with 500, but have not tested with another user. Peace........................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 VOIP:sip:edunagin at ekiga.net http://doas.montanalinux.org