From gergarnica@hotmail.com Thu Mar 17 00:54:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCDF7503A9 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:54:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.009 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V5M8CH+H4XMj for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468C1750351 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU121-W14 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:53:58 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1c843078-9561-43d2-8ec6-51fc2be1e998_" X-Originating-IP: [189.134.172.113] From: gerardo garnica To: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:53:58 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2011 00:53:58.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCB23480:01CBE43D] Subject: [Banshee-devel-list] Problems with ipod X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:54:10 -0000 --_1c843078-9561-43d2-8ec6-51fc2be1e998_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently reset my 5 generation ipod to its factory settings and attempted= to sync my music again using Banshee like I had for a while. After doing s= o the sync only allowed half my library to sync and then it was not even re= cognized by Ubuntu. Once again I restored it and it is mount properly and r= ecognized by Banshee but im not able to sync either automatically or manual= ly. Could you point me in the right direction? Thank You. Gerard. = --_1c843078-9561-43d2-8ec6-51fc2be1e998_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


I recently reset my 5 generation ipod to its factory settings a= nd attempted to sync my music again using Banshee like I had for a while. A= fter doing so the sync only allowed half my library to sync and then it was= not even recognized by Ubuntu. Once again I restored it and it is mount pr= operly and recognized by Banshee but im not able to sync either automatical= ly or manually.

Could you point me in the right direction?

Thank You.

Gerard.
= --_1c843078-9561-43d2-8ec6-51fc2be1e998_-- From gabriel.burt@gmail.com Thu Mar 17 02:31:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46275039A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:31:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.69 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.69 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X5RRZ0Urh4XC for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FA1750351 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so3787699iwn.27 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:30:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LXa+f8JPTfvAikUVzzu5NZ20xEGmUUhSfixoKJ11ISA=; b=XNm+sPJzAGA0zXC1ZJbDSFLon/d5vDYMIJvHo/RTmz46PZ+UcduXzyO/EHIvtJu/Ze IYJafQiwUsE+4f/4zrJvMQAkbmytTW5uNiUYPVHnWcRkAB5qzwOprlqtTHUZ6EX9BW9x 3L6K58P3LRoGeBIf50WdvXm2ipu2ME+necsdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=U5UObGzx1hFQxT5K/MEEk8EcSW58pngDs2rwSLCEm5V1k2jtgy4x8cEL382uMKeOij A2gRmJYLUtYUuaU1AiBtIgZghB5FdraCx9hWc+mTH70fUTxpXBuBhbMiGnFFP4UGYdYV zQwd5CMAJ4iBLzkshbidyyxcL5JcsmOTxOHgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.65.132 with SMTP id xm4mr1099442icb.424.1300329051259; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.9 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:30:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Gabriel Burt To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] Problems with ipod X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:31:03 -0000 Hi Gerard, This isn't the right list for such questions. It's actually not really used for much except some Banshee Community Extensions maintenance discussion. The right list is banshee-list. Make sure you've searched it and bugzilla too: http://banshee.fm/support/ Gabriel On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, gerardo garnica wrote: > > > > I recently reset my 5 generation ipod to its factory settings and attempted > to sync my music again using Banshee like I had for a while. After doing so > the sync only allowed half my library to sync and then it was not even > recognized by Ubuntu. Once again I restored it and it is mount properly and > recognized by Banshee but im not able to sync either automatically or > manually. > > Could you point me in the right direction? > > > Thank You. > > Gerard. > > _______________________________________________ > banshee-devel-list mailing list > banshee-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-devel-list > > From funtastix@googlemail.com Thu Mar 17 02:36:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9333375039A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:36:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z1YO8LQCedGI for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E8A750351 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3810626iyj.27 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dW4ulMwZRR1FerSxHHAXxkzrZtXW+QbM8F130gPDLVs=; b=s2Qj5HyrL6LLtwht4bhA3OfIa1bGAj2hDw65oDcvQJ7deD+VEdgFwpOXUNemDMb3Dz YGp90FYm/D5vblaxPGE+EQNTUZUOoIKAkjCNMSL8lUB0sYyfOp/Y4iV0rmNttuxB2aex QSG0bu9aiDA7nLGhAeFIg1JKITXXHrHElQnUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WuqvP1X1SKPhL70OiCNQRG79hfdr70g/cPqppIci8gQaRcU7ogk+WKnGCWS2BR/c3w Q3O+o5R244BAIVXElSKWkH/P7glk9tJkTpSDhkNNyimng6m5T24iR4tEARHJEqN/kc2r NAi5CHAI/JHL/7Fo/Z6eNQ8N6kPzNKt3wTgx0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.48.135 with SMTP id uw7mr1117070icb.169.1300329351216; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.165.222 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:51 +0700 Message-ID: From: Frank To: banshee-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:36:03 -0000 Hello Banshee Developers, I have written and hereby propose a new Community Extension "Just Play Files" to solve Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634717 and actually satisfy my personal needs as well. I have never used the FileSystemQueue as it imports local Files into my Library once I open them with Banshee, which is not in my interest. I manage a defined library with Banshee, but if I open a media file that I have just downloaded in order to evaluate it, I would like to use Banshee (usually running already on my system) to just play it as my favorite media player/application without importing the file and then forget about it as I continue to use Banshee. I might later choose to move/copy that file to my media library folder to have it integrated into my library. The proposed extension changes Banshee to do exactly that when opening files using the command line. The FileSystemQueue will still function if active (I deactivate it), but it will not play the file, but JustPlayFiles will do that. I would like to commit the new extension to BCE (where I do have commit access), but would also beforehand like to see if there are any objections or comments before I commit. There are some thoughts which I might later implement to further improve the extension once it is accepted: 1. Add an option to continue playing what you played before opening the file 2. Currently the file is played once and forgotten. Add an option to play the file again, when the play button is pressed again and repeat if "repeat one" is active. If anyone can come up with an even better name that would also be appreciated. BR Frank From hyperair@gmail.com Thu Mar 17 02:56:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B32D75039A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:56:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.69 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.69 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6SbWBW61-vWF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C992D750351 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so1290238gyg.27 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:56:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version :content-type; bh=C4kLni/TMVIy+vT3N5Qo7c7HLRyE8o+OCfcv61Y3EoY=; b=S9PxMjqajFUyeueVEYbq9uAN5rpozhf+1jZWa+Zk75biq2tMkSjfIlxrARb/Nu4rqc mxqmUY7Utkw8PRPkq6a+meDzhd6lC09nybFo90WtZQ/cvxqRNASqV27lA18Z+BXKNpXs 4iAGs7r4X+oeNRZkOoM5N/0sH9mx8/Riqs8SA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=mWvdmlMghDBdevVo4TZiDtt9ySh5EZymLvWQ2/53neXeC4UyszQ1vrc3Ae1Zty3tlD DrOBRE28eRGjeRpnlwK+AlFGRFGKB2hpYJX2LNi0IMh24dVTwjD5yh59f/KSA+lpiK+V UbAW82kp5r/z6ek5KjCLZj+4iOfQocmC6ZiXQ= Received: by 10.91.35.32 with SMTP id n32mr857419agj.142.1300330581806; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.5.122] ([203.117.234.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x34sm567660ana.30.2011.03.16.19.56.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D81784C.1040609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:56:12 +0800 From: Chow Loong Jin Organization: Nanyang Technological University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15pre) Gecko/20110207 Shredder/3.1.9pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4F71FE73573285E6A49FBED4" Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:56:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4F71FE73573285E6A49FBED4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 17,March,2011 10:35 AM, Frank wrote: > Hello Banshee Developers, >=20 > I have written and hereby propose a new Community Extension "Just Play > Files" to solve Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D634717= > and actually satisfy my personal needs as well. >=20 > I have never used the FileSystemQueue as it imports local Files into > my Library once I open them with Banshee, which is not in my interest. > I manage a defined library with Banshee, but if I open a media file > that I have just downloaded in order to evaluate it, I would like to > use Banshee (usually running already on my system) to just play it as > my favorite media player/application without importing the file and > then forget about it as I continue to use Banshee. I might later > choose to move/copy that file to my media library folder to have it > integrated into my library. >=20 > The proposed extension changes Banshee to do exactly that when opening > files using the command line. The FileSystemQueue will still function > if active (I deactivate it), but it will not play the file, but > JustPlayFiles will do that. >=20 > I would like to commit the new extension to BCE (where I do have > commit access), but would also beforehand like to see if there are any > objections or comments before I commit. >=20 > There are some thoughts which I might later implement to further > improve the extension once it is accepted: >=20 > 1. Add an option to continue playing what you played before opening the= file > 2. Currently the file is played once and forgotten. Add an option to > play the file again, when the play button is pressed again and repeat > if "repeat one" is active. >=20 > If anyone can come up with an even better name that would also be appre= ciated. That's weird. I thought that the filesystem queue did exactly that. I don= 't recall the filesystem queue ever sucking up the songs I've double clicked= into the library, and in fact, I recall looking for an option (perhaps via rig= ht click) to import the files into the library after listening to them. --=20 Kind regards, Loong Jin --------------enig4F71FE73573285E6A49FBED4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNgXhMAAoJEPvVIltYh1Kh+G4QAKypuOS/E15xMzdut5VU5e3C WIrn6CL7OUMYN+290slBV9j2++EGU+LxW1DECNiCzqEqtutKlHXpXI48pzwWf9ci zDe6AfjRe+9K7emeTU6L0djXjnZx1fpSlrfVMc3n7HyVWIfc2g+l6cX7YevxR9ZS bxQa5/AinTWIJqsJ6W7uYTCYKRKs1e6dzX7hZb84M+LXsDLMhT+a3BUfXn1XR3qs SLe2+AEQiSGEGifndI9N9HjnACog0u3TpEC4hKelHSjFEdMyeaHTQZUREdpOaV6h JdurFE61LMcWPNfegVwl+ZS8kPx2Nouc/eJQZDzE4uxAzCgz7ogYnTvqloG+fOcJ hxQBDkM9BiwjznUlsH1fiQDSzQxEMEOBxb+nmBDDLN7joRm3Rg4sW2H2T5AWxPVc k4QyRNwnnHMCNHrj1PqXjshXHfUER5HnfMrk1wCp4p8ZBpOv/U5LGGF70kUCVPKi hyRYMIeVsxHMyxm8cAO9ZIxjUhoVlWH+nwirA/foyHJQDiycQyJj3cq40eYBAaTh WDRLFgzteZazSagIvB3dUVcILMB7THeJJ0NkySumi81ybWIsYKcRVCwYHKBHL2Sa PjhETWmZrmfiFagPSJA3k0DhUKi6LwbbNv9oxFqUbrTTzBggkWlbHAciK6JPeOKY KllJND20NdGL+eDD1Of2 =G+t9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4F71FE73573285E6A49FBED4-- From funtastix@googlemail.com Thu Mar 17 04:11:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2137503F7 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:11:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5MvVLHEZCpt4 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED457503E9 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3914505iyj.27 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wEfOhcHFTO8A+dD6WCoy7bA7N058powSto46RP7uyqo=; b=DTYrS3dcenuEod97PxETo12Ko/NMT00f6BLJPhlO7T7wgU39hnzjPV7AnPD1eIhiQA Y8PmBie1hyout7Es5/GDLBcMRRY+FxXvWoilJjavXgJGnoSJ0J/v4OAzV8TxD9+ElNjI 7onc0HzUFDNqG5toGnhXoDHeT4zIzXPKUlsyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MAkFqCBFNfUbGFfuo4wX2LozNW6D59FawY/F327uQ4xpu0d45PEMSNKLgtIGTcZIF+ FYIl6ksF25e0rEZLoJdsL4BpPRVgbXrh17D5gAqoZ+l0Vifj+Ih6eqdeavk54sVVJ6tV c2sZlI17VMeRzE9lxbAyDLtXn46Edxi8vkqx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr776308ibd.54.1300335073867; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.165.222 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:11:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D81784C.1040609@gmail.com> References: <4D81784C.1040609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:11:13 +0700 Message-ID: From: Frank To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:11:28 -0000 Thanks for the quick comment. Hmm. I just see, it is sort of its own library (technically files do get imported). I recall having problems when not clearing the queue, and then having files that did not exists anymore. The other option would have been to alter the FSQ to clear if a new file is opened, like totem does, but that wouldn't be a queue anymore. As I can see the use for the FSQ (just not the way I use Banshee) I rather put an alternative next to it than starting to modify it. Btw: I can actually add files from the FSQ to my library just by dragging it from the FSQ over the library and it gets there instantly! If I personally want something in my Library I just move it to that folder (and have the library watcher active) or (if I wouldn't care about location) drag it into banshee (over the library source). If I don't want it in Banshee, I just want Banshee to play and I don't want to see it again once I go on playing my library, whereas FSQ queues it and plays the queue instead of continuing what I did before or "shutting up" (especially if you have "repeat all" enabled it can be annoying!). Hope this clarifies the use of the proposed extension. BR On 17 March 2011 09:56, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On Thursday 17,March,2011 10:35 AM, Frank wrote: >> Hello Banshee Developers, >> >> I have written and hereby propose a new Community Extension "Just Play >> Files" to solve Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634717 >> and actually satisfy my personal needs as well. >> >> I have never used the FileSystemQueue as it imports local Files into >> my Library once I open them with Banshee, which is not in my interest. >> I manage a defined library with Banshee, but if I open a media file >> that I have just downloaded in order to evaluate it, I would like to >> use Banshee (usually running already on my system) to just play it as >> my favorite media player/application without importing the file and >> then forget about it as I continue to use Banshee. I might later >> choose to move/copy that file to my media library folder to have it >> integrated into my library. >> >> The proposed extension changes Banshee to do exactly that when opening >> files using the command line. The FileSystemQueue will still function >> if active (I deactivate it), but it will not play the file, but >> JustPlayFiles will do that. >> >> I would like to commit the new extension to BCE (where I do have >> commit access), but would also beforehand like to see if there are any >> objections or comments before I commit. >> >> There are some thoughts which I might later implement to further >> improve the extension once it is accepted: >> >> 1. Add an option to continue playing what you played before opening the file >> 2. Currently the file is played once and forgotten. Add an option to >> play the file again, when the play button is pressed again and repeat >> if "repeat one" is active. >> >> If anyone can come up with an even better name that would also be appreciated. > > That's weird. I thought that the filesystem queue did exactly that. I don't > recall the filesystem queue ever sucking up the songs I've double clicked into > the library, and in fact, I recall looking for an option (perhaps via right > click) to import the files into the library after listening to them. > > -- > Kind regards, > Loong Jin > > > _______________________________________________ > banshee-devel-list mailing list > banshee-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-devel-list > > From hyperair@gmail.com Thu Mar 17 05:15:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052D7503E9 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:15:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.69 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.69 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pJ1PXuMKavmL for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B806750353 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so1333930gyg.27 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version :content-type; bh=1EXlpbTS/AG4tF3DBBK4mTNAMDd8oXPrUIAicdi1wsI=; b=tJ8CGye54rGInNZxWTm0PMVt2t7m2+yt8qSrP/PGI9Fyrt52IoLwR8ftaXqUmW/8Xp A309Lj9VFqpnToylwWu0vyLxIGefAmYLWCCdFO7POBE+PsAlyA/z/pW9jdJhYMvExmoS 5skq+ZyOH87rR7ih7pc2kYaUthZrAL8NRv1xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=eTpzMrCD82oi8lId5zo8zrX/C8+DLvNLW4rJ6bKSlEeWlN5M4YsfYWvw+bJ2q8Ss6M 7cZaKD//JrHBITSKkcJWhgjuer0cut/q4GlWqHkcDmGD5ibpPWtcqjlgY01ebrmb5Irg rL7c+dvxvLF8yYzz0TaPYqbLXlqUjQkzZ2RJQ= Received: by 10.236.180.69 with SMTP id i45mr1001358yhm.32.1300338916560; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.5.122] ([203.117.233.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 57sm1045962yhl.20.2011.03.16.22.15.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D8198DC.706@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:15:08 +0800 From: Chow Loong Jin Organization: Nanyang Technological University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15pre) Gecko/20110207 Shredder/3.1.9pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4D81784C.1040609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8D378EFE56EDEC5C935C3C4C" Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:15:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8D378EFE56EDEC5C935C3C4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 17,March,2011 12:11 PM, Frank wrote: > Thanks for the quick comment. >=20 > Hmm. I just see, it is sort of its own library (technically files do > get imported). I recall having problems when not clearing the queue, > and then having files that did not exists anymore. The other option > would have been to alter the FSQ to clear if a new file is opened, > like totem does, but that wouldn't be a queue anymore. As I can see > the use for the FSQ (just not the way I use Banshee) I rather put an > alternative next to it than starting to modify it. >=20 > Btw: I can actually add files from the FSQ to my library just by > dragging it from the FSQ over the library and it gets there instantly! >=20 > If I personally want something in my Library I just move it to that > folder (and have the library watcher active) or (if I wouldn't care > about location) drag it into banshee (over the library source). If I > don't want it in Banshee, I just want Banshee to play and I don't want > to see it again once I go on playing my library, whereas FSQ queues it > and plays the queue instead of continuing what I did before or > "shutting up" (especially if you have "repeat all" enabled it can be > annoying!). >=20 > Hope this clarifies the use of the proposed extension. >=20 I see, so basically the issue is that the FSQ doesn't auto-purge when it'= s done? Perhaps a patch to the current FSQ would be better for that then, rather = than creating a whole new extension? I feel that having too many extensions do= ing the same thing can get pretty confusing to the end-user, really. --=20 Kind regards, Loong Jin --------------enig8D378EFE56EDEC5C935C3C4C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNgZjcAAoJEPvVIltYh1KhD7kP/i0q3NnYUFDfNdtVNj7EwKow IDWo89B11IWxw6f09+pTCl5qBQbXYba9tYaNhZaJxTOH4Qn9CvGEcGk75b/grseX rz8elPaR6TyeukB0kjC/S10dZxHSd04jLDMrdV4EJOcXnHmt7MPKqMi7U48oB/xb JIxOFEDDaGIIaBSjwPmeNtj4Q3Z0lALYVT0GxcmtzdIT1+zvUmSQrU3c0nfYyhtt L+ktOuURpOTBTTLwcC2W62wcYaLQWwx7xxEOL+whEqnGuM3G8sA4eZjkOepXbIB7 UbEiTzQVBroDfkeRi2YiBep0wcU4c6xdf0aLwVHjuYgzSKYkQcrTGQ/Z1xHlLgU6 +kIvevXUfA02+5oQ5OEmSsXoF1QecT7Ut6wC8T2ZCKkIKEOclt4yVklPq49RcQ/8 /h5VGpxOWMfMt9dUMpr/JS1Fomys4egQrAhe69FEZQYSYMfNLse74HWKLu+yBadf DJRk5Jwv4LJwIWZazclamE50AtLZfwtoIVDMeo2Wv0iTk6+yjQhiCsWl45F4JdCk Gx4Bh5brvpNj28BJdxn3G3wRjkPwhUXCsJFDZGuvJ9vAs2j9qlrktUYW9aJPi44Z O/55S5KOJ8m/BC+IP2rxqPccVP2QgWnuLH1PMq1TECbQ4v4UeMx/hWdJ0tu21e/P pYcQu8G62d0qlpvfIVzQ =Of1P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8D378EFE56EDEC5C935C3C4C-- From funtastix@googlemail.com Thu Mar 17 10:10:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01CE7504A5 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cp8nzOeYqFVh for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5351A75025A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4315305iwn.27 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:10:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hbXgIfNGfEaJpIWG/PW+BxBw5fdKJFf3LkD5IZjm8Ok=; b=uiAKwLHOCPFHCx4PvTsjOBoWbjSt76lftZLw9hXiinPblk3xtigdlUmZddpv0GE4tC UJXkKWwmY214caHFiqqTFwSAX/TEDsVZPo6Xskxfh8Uotf7/bV64jDvx8e15fEatPI77 2SCetlXUlwr3qC2LRU7lW/OxVx3W729lEnzps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eb65UgezSmKTnBCBZXJQPf3nfFN7WKp3S+Hd5IqwHTqB+a+MMAMLZd4yh1pvCtk/ph 70vhYaT29Z2AFO6soxHkr2c2KlrzwIP4pTsQiJgwutnK4ivdCwkUmqnz+XBBoMflN52c hVyHNp2YIBz41CVO2Xa4qDr8Pkp1NpHlMcYQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.115.146 with SMTP id i18mr1023963ibq.79.1300356632477; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.165.222 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:10:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D8198DC.706@gmail.com> References: <4D81784C.1040609@gmail.com> <4D8198DC.706@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:10:32 +0700 Message-ID: From: Frank To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:45 -0000 I guess it's rather "auto-purge on load": If I have anything in the queue (might be one item, might be an external playlist because I opened a m3u file) it will be lost if I open another external file. That changes the current behavior fundamentally, especially as the FSQ is designed to be a queue that builds up over time. That is its very feature. So this must be configurable by the user, requiring a user selectable choice... but where? In the right-click menu as "Auto-purge"? Does anyone understand that? On 17 March 2011 12:15, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On Thursday 17,March,2011 12:11 PM, Frank wrote: >> Thanks for the quick comment. >> >> Hmm. I just see, it is sort of its own library (technically files do >> get imported). I recall having problems when not clearing the queue, >> and then having files that did not exists anymore. The other option >> would have been to alter the FSQ to clear if a new file is opened, >> like totem does, but that wouldn't be a queue anymore. As I can see >> the use for the FSQ (just not the way I use Banshee) I rather put an >> alternative next to it than starting to modify it. >> >> Btw: I can actually add files from the FSQ to my library just by >> dragging it from the FSQ over the library and it gets there instantly! >> >> If I personally want something in my Library I just move it to that >> folder (and have the library watcher active) or (if I wouldn't care >> about location) drag it into banshee (over the library source). If I >> don't want it in Banshee, I just want Banshee to play and I don't want >> to see it again once I go on playing my library, whereas FSQ queues it >> and plays the queue instead of continuing what I did before or >> "shutting up" (especially if you have "repeat all" enabled it can be >> annoying!). >> >> Hope this clarifies the use of the proposed extension. >> > > I see, so basically the issue is that the FSQ doesn't auto-purge when it's done? > Perhaps a patch to the current FSQ would be better for that then, rather than > creating a whole new extension? I feel that having too many extensions doing the > same thing can get pretty confusing to the end-user, really. > > -- > Kind regards, > Loong Jin > > > _______________________________________________ > banshee-devel-list mailing list > banshee-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-devel-list > > From mickstephenson@ovi.com Thu Mar 17 15:18:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932FF7500BC for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2hzEGmfH+3gd for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com (outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com [8.12.152.118]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8AC75009E for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com (unknown [10.6.32.44]) by c-in3ofal02-02.sv2.lotuslive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2331291174 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ofil02-04.sv2.lotuslive.com (unknown [10.6.32.103]) by c-in3obnd02-02.sv2.lotuslive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63D72FE9D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ofil02-04.sv2.lotuslive.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by c-in3ofil02-04.sv2.lotuslive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AF1583E2C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ws--02-08.ben.sv2.lotuslive.com (c-in3ws--02-08.sv2.lotuslive.com [10.6.32.88]) (sender mickstephenson@ovi.com) by c-in3ofil02-04.sv2.lotuslive.com (LotusLive iNotes outfilter/0.91) with SMTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 13899 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2011 15:18:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.mail.ovi.com) (mickstephenson@ovi.com@82.17.231.193) by c-in3ws--02-08.sv2.lotuslive.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2011 15:18:01 -0000 From: Michael Stephenson To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:03 +0000 Message-ID: <1300375083.20344.14.camel@michael-server> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gIWjxyEpPbsbpSo9WBGAovyTscVab2SXATOj0+hbIOw= c=1 sm=1 a=rn56w5wW88UA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hkGmMOvxy1u93jNs2UgA:9 a=HKtDdk1tuSNAv__P3mUULf9D1IkA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:18:34 -0000 The default banshee behaviour is to add anything loaded from the filesystem to it's corresponding library. What the FSQ does it instead creates a seperate library designed to be filled up with garbage over time. It can not be manually ordered like a playlist, and isn't even technically a queue since it can only be sorted by any field and is only a queue if it is sorted by date added. I don't find that functionality desirable so I would like to be able to disable the Filesystem Queue entirely. However when I do I am faced with a worse problem every video I add gets added to my actual video library. NO ONE wants that behaviour, seriously find me someone who wants that to happen. I'd actually argue this is the solution: Step 1: Nuke the filesystem queue library from high orbit. Step 2: Change the default behaviour so by default it plays and forgets. Step 3: Add an option to add to the end of the play queue (an actual playlist that can be ordered) when loaded form filesystem to preferences Step 4: Add another option to add to the library when loaded form filesystem to preferences. Put this all in core not plugins. Can anyone explain why the current state of affairs where having a another library called the filesystem queue is preferable to just adding a track to the end of the play queue? -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com From mickstephenson@ovi.com Thu Mar 17 17:33:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EBF7500D5 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:33:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id td5XTpfdVrHO for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com (outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com [8.12.152.118]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2F1750075 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-in3ofil02-03.sv2.lotuslive.com (unknown [10.6.32.50]) by c-in3obnd02-01.sv2.lotuslive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92FC8C177D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ofil02-03.sv2.lotuslive.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by c-in3ofil02-03.sv2.lotuslive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D494AC7C2 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ws--02-08.ben.sv2.lotuslive.com (c-in3ws--02-08.sv2.lotuslive.com [10.6.32.88]) (sender mickstephenson@ovi.com) by c-in3ofil02-03.sv2.lotuslive.com (LotusLive iNotes outfilter/0.91) with SMTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 18652 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2011 17:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.mail.ovi.com) (mickstephenson@ovi.com@82.17.231.193) by c-in3ws--02-08.sv2.lotuslive.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2011 17:32:48 -0000 From: Michael Stephenson To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1300375083.20344.14.camel@michael-server> References: <1300375083.20344.14.camel@michael-server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:51 +0000 Message-ID: <1300383171.20344.16.camel@michael-server> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5QS6LqGs4G4H8t/PMSm/MWYzR3dWRsZbVy7ckklrHIw= c=1 sm=1 a=rn56w5wW88UA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=VAMm1qzQAAAA:8 a=XKz7GDaI2JG_oVYOyzEA:9 a=WXENy6e9ULQnhMYOcASv_TuTIBYA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:33:02 -0000 On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 15:18 +0000, Michael Stephenson wrote: > The default banshee behaviour is to add anything loaded from the > filesystem to it's corresponding library. > > What the FSQ does it instead creates a seperate library designed to be > filled up with garbage over time. It can not be manually ordered like a > playlist, and isn't even technically a queue since it can only be sorted > by any field and is only a queue if it is sorted by date added. > > I don't find that functionality desirable so I would like to be able to > disable the Filesystem Queue entirely. However when I do I am faced with > a worse problem every video I add gets added to my actual video library. > NO ONE wants that behaviour, seriously find me someone who wants that to > happen. > > I'd actually argue this is the solution: > > Step 1: > > Nuke the filesystem queue library from high orbit. > > Step 2: > > Change the default behaviour so by default it plays and forgets. > > Step 3: Add an option to add to the end of the play queue (an actual > playlist that can be ordered) when loaded form filesystem to preferences > > Step 4: Add another option to add to the library when loaded form > filesystem to preferences. > > Put this all in core not plugins. > > > Can anyone explain why the current state of affairs where having a > another library called the filesystem queue is preferable to just adding > a track to the end of the play queue? > Here is a screenshot to demonstrate what I mean. https://www.dropbox.com/s/d97abdiil0jrsne/Preferences_011.png -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com From funtastix@googlemail.com Sat Mar 19 04:54:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E8E7505A4 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:54:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RFC_ABUSE_POST=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jtcFS+oyMiVQ for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F581750545 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so7449163iwn.27 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yy1htCQVc8JFHFwk7J5GJT/m1KBLru/VDVdsdxSz890=; b=YtwpG6ZIOTmqkZadyj//7DHXt9j+k19ax0+QME0ajaojecXrfK3fUcT/p4N3b1Np++ Im4ln184jUnMzbqXWylAEJBF3FXU8zTZhs4YCT+BOIGcwBhBAUAcZr3smv9f/3bz9LWT x+QlmizxpKgZlCvoMO56+w1mYraIIDuyPoEDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HNGR2G0u5Nqs2sD7mIOHp297TLbP14AQ90OIiwtnDOsITnVdPvRyTfhfTxLnPWEKaa B9mSjTjh+KNSLsxxmJnX9hwvmMlWB/Nn1FikFAO22E6LEfge/g8oeLYQb1ouQCByzqcs TYmUCV4xUpfkm+EjNnsM+ntbOPGN7RUKCsOHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.75 with SMTP id r11mr1788279iba.4.1300510431278; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.165.222 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:53:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1300383171.20344.16.camel@michael-server> References: <1300375083.20344.14.camel@michael-server> <1300383171.20344.16.camel@michael-server> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:53:51 +0700 Message-ID: From: Frank To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Banshee-devel-list] New Community Extension "JustPlayFiles" to solve bgo#634717 X-BeenThere: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: banshee-devel-list@gnome.org List-Id: Development discussion for the Banshee Music Player List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:54:05 -0000 For anyone not following on the bug, I've gave Chow's idea a try and I like it so much better, that I have proposed a patch for the FSQ in bugzilla https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634717 instead of committing the new extension. BR Frank On 18 March 2011 00:32, Michael Stephenson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 15:18 +0000, Michael Stephenson wrote: >> The default banshee behaviour is to add anything loaded from the >> filesystem to it's corresponding library. >> >> What the FSQ does it instead creates a seperate library designed to be >> filled up with garbage over time. It can not be manually ordered like a >> playlist, and isn't even technically a queue since it can only be sorted >> by any field and is only a queue if it is sorted by date added. >> >> I don't find that functionality desirable so I would like to be able to >> disable the Filesystem Queue entirely. However when I do I am faced with >> a worse problem every video I add gets added to my actual video library. >> NO ONE wants that behaviour, seriously find me someone who wants that to >> happen. >> >> I'd actually argue this is the solution: >> >> Step 1: >> >> Nuke the filesystem queue library from high orbit. >> >> Step 2: >> >> Change the default behaviour so by default it plays and forgets. >> >> Step 3: Add an option to add to the end of the play queue (an actual >> playlist that can be ordered) when loaded form filesystem to preferences >> >> Step 4: Add another option to add to the library when loaded form >> filesystem to preferences. >> >> Put this all in core not plugins. >> >> >> Can anyone explain why the current state of affairs where having a >> another library called the filesystem queue is preferable to just adding >> a track to the end of the play queue? >> > > Here is a screenshot to demonstrate what I mean. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/d97abdiil0jrsne/Preferences_011.png > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovi Mail: Making email access easy > http://mail.ovi.com > > _______________________________________________ > banshee-devel-list mailing list > banshee-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-devel-list >