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IMAP C: 10 AUTHENTICATE PLAIN IMAP S: * 23 FETCH (BODY[3.1.HEADER] {846} List-Post: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Janek_Warcho=C5=82?= Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "reply codereview-hr appspotmail com" , LilyPond Development Team To: Werner Lemberg , Trevor Daniels , Keith OHara , Han-Wen Nienhuys , David Kastrup References: <089e01294da8546d6704e96ee7c1 google com> In-Reply-To: <089e01294da8546d6704e96ee7c1 google com> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Make sure slurs actually avoid stafflines. (issue 15400049) Message: 1 BODY[3.1.1] {3165} Hi Keith, 2013/10/23 : > > On 2013/10/23 04:22:22, Keith wrote: >> The commit message makes it sound like there was a blunder in the >> direction that >> >> the old code moved the slur. I don't see any such problem. >> >> It looks like the old code intentionally moved the middle of the slur >> always in >> the direction of the slur, so the curvature would increase. It simply >> didn't >> move far enough, because the curve does not move as far as the control >> points. > > Uh, how had you came to this conclusion? It's absurd. Take this > example: > > \relative c'' { > c8( b a2) c8( b) > \slurUp > d,2( f) > a2 c > } > > Here's how these slurs look with the correcting function turned off > altogether - none is crossing the staffline: > http://lilypond.googlecode.com/issues/attachment?aid=36280006000&name=no-correction.png&token=I4nuTyt1y5gR8lDgjQPipN-8Hm8%3A1382562402092&inline=1 > > They are just a bit too close to the staffline, that's all. They should > be flattened, but the previous version of the algorithm decided that > such slurs should have their curvature increased, which resulted in > this: > http://lilypond.googlecode.com/issues/attachment?aid=36280006001&name=previous-correction.png&token=PeJAER3pHxyZQAqN_3vKl4F2fUY%3A1382562402092&inline=1 > > Can you tell me in what way this made any sense? Making the slurs even > more curved would make them even more ugly. > > Also, please look at the example in our essay: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/essay/automated-engraving#improvement-by-benchmarking > Note that Baerenreiter puts the slur in the 2nd measure under the > staffline, just as i want it to be. I hope that you won't interpret the harsh tone of my email as a personal attack. I spent *8 hours* (measured with a watch) reading slur code and working on this patch. I got irritated when i saw your email, because it seemed to me that when i said that something was broken you didn't trust my words enough to double-check your doubts. I realize that you probably didn't mean it. Unfortunately this resonated with some of my other experiences from LilyPond development, when a) my questions quite often didn't get answered desipte being short and well-formulated, b) my plain, well-commented and carefully git-crafted patches sometimes don't get reviewed for months, c) my diagnoses and observations are quite often not trusted without a lot of disussion and necessity to provide lots of scanned examples, d) it seems that people generally don't care or notice things that i care about and notice (for example when i say "many slurs, beams and ties in LilyPond are really ugly" many peopIMAP S: + le don't believe me - as if they trusted LilyPond's decisionIMAP C: bWljaGFlbF9vZG9ubmVsbEBvZG9ubmVsbC5rb3VtYml0Lm9s more than myyZ wjBtauWNodgeYmWVesX29nkb2t5 u-Z Wxsor Qat leasGt9kb so 2i5utZ WxssLemtvedms Wt1oia XQumbe3Jn)AEtv. d This iWs1ia XRAUaG5plblg r=e= ally unfortunate; of course you're not responsible for this situation. But it made me frustrated nevertheless, so i decided to explain myself. Anyway, be sure that i *do appreciate* getting reviews, and i'm honored to see Han-Wen reviewing my patch! good night Janek ) f OK FETCH completed. IMAP C: 11 FETCH 23 (BODY[3.2.HEADER] BODY[3.2.1]) IMAP S: 10 OK LOGIN Ok. IMAP C: 12 SELECT "INBOX.Trash" 13 MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Trash" IMAP S: * 23 FETCH (BODY[3.2.HEADER] {758} List-Post: From: k-ohara5a5a oco net Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: reply codereview-hr appspotmail com, lilypond-devel gnu org To: janek lilypond gmail com, lemzwerg googlemail com, tdanielsmusic googlemail com, hanwenn gmail com, dak gnu org Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 03:33:43 +0000 Reply-To: janek lilypond gmail com, lemzwerg googlemail com, tdanielsmusic googlemail com, k-ohara5a5a oco net, hanwenn gmail com, dak gnu org, lilypond-devel gnu org, reply codereview-hr appspotmail com Message-ID: <20cf301b634ff117c104e9744c13 google com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: Make sure slurs actually avoid stafflines. (issue 15400049) Message: 2 BODY[3.2.1] {2036} https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/diff/1/lily/slur-configuration.cc File lily/slur-configuration.cc (left): https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/diff/1/lily/slur-configuration.cc#oldcode62 lily/slur-configuration.cc:62: On 2013/10/23 04:22:23, Keith wrote: > > but the function was broken: it only moved slurs in one direction We concluded the same thing about the old code. The old code intended to move slurs in one direction only. I was only confused by your comment. I interpreted 'broken' to mean "failing to to what was intended". https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/diff/1/lily/slur-configuration.cc File lily/slur-configuration.cc (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/diff/1/lily/slur-configuration.cc#newcode60 lily/slur-configuration.cc:60: // rather than decrease, because we want to avoid too flat slurs. On 2013/10/23 21:41:24, janek wrote: > Precisely because min_gap_above_staffline > min_gap_below_staffline > we are more likely to increase than decrease curvature. Okay. So then the comment "The function is implemented so that we're more likely to increase curvature" refers to the default values. https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/diff/1/lily/slur-configuration.cc#newcode84 lily/slur-configuration.cc:84: Real const slur_th = state.thickness_ * staff_th * 10; On 2013/10/23 21:41:24, janek wrote: > On 2013/10/23 04:22:23, Keith wrote: > > Why 10? Is that the thickness of the fattest part of the slur? > No, it's because staff_th is measured in staffspaces, while state.thickness_ > appears to be measured in 1/10ths of staffline-thicknesses state.thickness_ already has the \layout{line-thickness} as a factor in its initialization in Slur_score_state::fill(). Staff_symbol_referencer::line_thickness() returns something that scales with \layout{line-thickness} So, it looks like you have two factors of \layout{line-thickness} and the *10 roughly cancels one of them. https://codereview.appspot.com/15400049/ ) 11 OK FETCH completed. IMAP C: 14 FETCH 23 (BODY[3.3.HEADER] BODY[3.3.1]) IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1355513549] Ok * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 12 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok IMAP S: * 23 FETCH (BODY[3.3.HEADER] {503} List-Post: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-devel gnu org References: <87fvrsgdo5 fsf fencepost gnu org> In-Reply-To: <87fvrsgdo5 fsf fencepost gnu org> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:08:39 +0200 Message-ID: <526937F7 4080603 webdrake net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: Re: The catastrophe has arrived. Message: 3 BODY[3.3.1] {704} On 23/10/13 18:22, David Kastrup wrote: > Of course, this was sort of predictable. Would we have been in time if > we had immediately created a backport of the configure patch and named > the result 2.16.3? I think it would depend on when you got it out by. As far as I can tell Ubuntu just imports Lilypond direct from Debian Unstable and doesn't make any direct intervention in it. I don't think there's even a volunteer contributor who takes any responsibility (which there is for e.g. Frescobaldi). There have been a bunch of occasions in the past when Ubuntu hasn't picked up on an upgraded stable release of Lilypond despite it being available, for exactly this reason. ) 14 OK FETCH completed. IMAP C: 15 FETCH 23 (BODY[3.4.HEADER] BODY[3.4.1]) IMAP S: * 23 FETCH (BODY[3.4.HEADER] {575} List-Post: From: David Kastrup Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: lilypond-devel gnu org To: Joseph Rushton Wakeling References: <87fvrsgdo5 fsf fencepost gnu org> <526937F7 4080603 webdrake net> In-Reply-To: <526937F7 4080603 webdrake net> (Joseph Rushton Wakeling's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:08:39 +0200") Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:24:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87wql2elod fsf fencepost gnu org> Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: The catastrophe has arrived. Message: 4 BODY[3.4.1] {1218} Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 23/10/13 18:22, David Kastrup wrote: >> Of course, this was sort of predictable. Would we have been in time if >> we had immediately created a backport of the configure patch and named >> the result 2.16.3? > > I think it would depend on when you got it out by. As far as I can > tell Ubuntu just imports Lilypond direct from Debian Unstable and > doesn't make any direct intervention in it. But they take the source package and compile themselves. Debian has already taken a fixed Metapost long ago, but Ubuntu has not updated the TeXlive binaries in spite of me reporting the problem. > There have been a bunch of occasions in the past when Ubuntu hasn't > picked up on an upgraded stable release of Lilypond despite it being > available, for exactly this reason. Well, they upgraded to latest stable alright this time, and the packaging looks pretty convincing. But whether or not they upgraded LilyPond would have made no difference to the situation with the broken fonts: it would have just been the same if they had compiled an older version of LilyPond with that version of Metapost. -- David Kastrup ) 15 OK FETCH completed. 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IMAP S: 17 OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ ID ENABLE ACL RIGHTS=kxte QUOTA MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE UIDPLUS NO_ATOMIC_RENAME UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY CATENATE CONDSTORE ESEARCH SORT SORT=MODSEQ SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE LIST-EXTENDED WITHIN QRESYNC SCAN XLIST URLAUTH URLAUTH=BINARY LOGINDISABLED COMPRESS=DEFLATE IDLE] Success (tls protection) IMAP C: 18 COMPRESS DEFLATE IMAP S: * 23 FETCH (BODY[4.MIME] {136} Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digest Footer BODY[4] {157} _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel gnu org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel ) 16 OK FETCH completed. IMAP S: 18 OK DEFLATE active IMAP C: 19 LIST "INBOX" "%" IMAP S: * LIST (\Noinferiors) "." INBOX 19 OK Completed (0.000 secs 3 calls) IMAP C: 1a NOOP IMAP S: 1a OK NOOP completed IMAP C: 1b THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 Undeleted IMAP S: * THREAD 1b OK THREAD done. IMAP S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE AUTH=PLAIN ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2010 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. IMAP C: 1c AUTHENTICATE PLAIN IMAP S: + IMAP C: bWljaGFlbF9vZG9ubmVsbEBvZG9ubmVsbC5rb3VtYml0Lm9yZwBtaWNoYWVsX29kb25uZWxsQG9kb25uZWxsLmtvdW1iaXQub3JnAEtvdW1iaXRAUG5pbg== IMAP S: 1c OK LOGIN Ok. IMAP C: 1d SELECT "INBOX.Sent" 1e MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Sent" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1355513619] Ok * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 1d OK [READ-WRITE] Ok * MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Sent" "acdilrsw" 1e OK MYRIGHTS completed. IMAP C: 1f THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 Undeleted IMAP S: * THREAD 1f OK THREAD done. IMAP S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE AUTH=PLAIN ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2010 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. IMAP C: 20 AUTHENTICATE PLAIN IMAP S: + IMAP C: bWljaGFlbF9vZG9ubmVsbEBvZG9ubmVsbC5rb3VtYml0Lm9yZwBtaWNoYWVsX29kb25uZWxsQG9kb25uZWxsLmtvdW1iaXQub3JnAEtvdW1iaXRAUG5pbg== IMAP S: 20 OK LOGIN Ok. IMAP C: 21 SELECT "INBOX.Drafts" 22 MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Drafts" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1355519581] Ok * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 21 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok * MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Drafts" "acdilrsw" 22 OK MYRIGHTS completed. IMAP C: 23 THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 Undeleted IMAP S: * THREAD 23 OK THREAD done. IMAP C: 24 SELECT "INBOX" 25 MYRIGHTS "INBOX" IMAP S: * 10 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $MDNSent NonJunk Junk $Label4 $Label1 $Label2 $Label3 $Label5) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen $Forwarded $MDNSent NonJunk Junk $Label4 $Label1 $Label2 $Label3 $Label5 \*)] Ok * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1173109659] Ok * OK [UIDNEXT 178164] Ok * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 6262] Ok * OK [URLMECH INTERNAL] Ok 24 OK [READ-WRITE] Completed IMAP S: * MYRIGHTS INBOX lrswipkxtecda 25 OK Completed IMAP C: 26 GETACL "INBOX" IMAP S: * ACL INBOX odonnell lrswipcda cyrus c 26 OK Completed IMAP C: 27 UID Search 1:10 1:11 IMAP S: * SEARCH 171453 171457 175333 175349 175401 177143 177338 177735 178102 178148 27 OK Completed (10 msgs in 0.000 secs) IMAP C: 28 SEARCH RETURN (ALL) 1:10 UNSEEN 29 SEARCH RETURN (ALL) 1:10 DELETED IMAP S: * ESEARCH (TAG "28") 28 OK Completed (0 msgs in 0.000 secs) IMAP S: * ESEARCH (TAG "29") 29 OK Completed (0 msgs in 0.000 secs) IMAP C: 2a THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 Undeleted IMAP S: * THREAD (1 2)(3 5 6)(4)(7)(8)(9)(10) 2a OK Completed (10 msgs in 0.000 secs) IMAP S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE AUTH=PLAIN ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2010 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. IMAP C: 2b AUTHENTICATE PLAIN IMAP S: + IMAP C: bWljaGFlbF9vZG9ubmVsbEBvZG9ubmVsbC5rb3VtYml0Lm9yZwBtaWNoYWVsX29kb25uZWxsQG9kb25uZWxsLmtvdW1iaXQub3JnAEtvdW1iaXRAUG5pbg== IMAP S: 2b OK LOGIN Ok. IMAP C: 2c SELECT "INBOX.Queue" 2d MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Queue" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1355630755] Ok * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 2c OK [READ-WRITE] Ok * MYRIGHTS "INBOX.Queue" "acdilrsw" 2d OK MYRIGHTS completed. IMAP C: 2e THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 ALL IMAP S: * THREAD 2e OK THREAD done. IMAP C: 2f SELECT "INBOX" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk Junk) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk Junk \*)] Flags permitted. * OK [UIDVALIDITY 2] UIDs valid. * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDNEXT 1219] Predicted next UID. * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 319474] 2f OK [READ-WRITE] INBOX selected. (Success) IMAP S: * OK Gimap ready for requests from 69.17.22.172 ik4if3186488icb.28 IMAP C: 30 CAPABILITY IMAP S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 XYZZY SASL-IR AUTH=XOAUTH AUTH=XOAUTH2 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN 30 OK Thats all she wrote! ik4if3186488icb.28 IMAP C: 31 AUTHENTICATE PLAIN (password hidden) IMAP S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 UIDPLUS COMPRESS=DEFLATE ENABLE MOVE CONDSTORE ESEARCH 31 OK odonnell mj gmail com Michael O'Donnell authenticated (Success) IMAP C: 32 COMPRESS DEFLATE IMAP S: 32 OK Success IMAP C: 33 SELECT "Sent" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk Junk) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk Junk \*)] Flags permitted. * OK [UIDVALIDITY 42] UIDs valid. * 7 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDNEXT 22] Predicted next UID. * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 319474] 33 OK [READ-WRITE] Sent selected. (Success) IMAP C: 34 SEARCH RETURN (ALL) 1:7 UNSEEN 35 SEARCH RETURN (ALL) 1:7 DELETED IMAP S: * ESEARCH (TAG "34") 34 OK SEARCH completed (Success) IMAP S: * ESEARCH (TAG "35") 35 OK SEARCH completed (Success) IMAP S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ ID ENABLE AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=PLAIN SASL-IR] tottenham Cyrus IMAP v2.4.12-Debian-2.4.12-2 server ready IMAP C: 36 AUTHENTICATE PLAIN (password hidden) IMAP S: 36 OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ ID ENABLE ACL RIGHTS=kxte QUOTA MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE UIDPLUS NO_ATOMIC_RENAME UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY CATENATE CONDSTORE ESEARCH SORT SORT=MODSEQ SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE LIST-EXTENDED WITHIN QRESYNC SCAN XLIST URLAUTH URLAUTH=BINARY LOGINDISABLED COMPRESS=DEFLATE IDLE] Success (tls protection) IMAP C: 37 COMPRESS DEFLATE IMAP S: 37 OK DEFLATE active IMAP C: 38 SELECT "Trash" 39 MYRIGHTS "Trash" IMAP S: * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen Junk NonJunk $Forwarded $MDNSent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen Junk NonJunk $Forwarded $MDNSent \*)] Ok * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1177474074] Ok * OK [UIDNEXT 196727] Ok * OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 2682] Ok * OK [URLMECH INTERNAL] Ok 38 OK [READ-WRITE] Completed IMAP S: * MYRIGHTS Trash lrswipkxtecda 39 OK Completed IMAP C: 3a GETACL "Trash" IMAP S: * ACL Trash odonnell lrswipcda cyrus c 3a OK Completed IMAP C: 3b THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 ALL IMAP S: * THREAD 3b OK Completed (0 msgs in 0.000 secs) IMAP S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE AUTH=PLAIN ACL ACL2=UNION] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2010 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. IMAP C: 3c AUTHENTICATE PLAIN IMAP S: + IMAP C: bWljaGFlbF9vZG9ubmVsbEBvZG9ubmVsbC5rb3VtYml0Lm9yZwBtaWNoYWVsX29kb25uZWxsQG9kb25uZWxsLmtvdW1iaXQub3JnAEtvdW1iaXRAUG5pbg== IMAP S: 3c OK LOGIN Ok. IMAP C: 3d SELECT "INBOX.ToFileLater" 3e MYRIGHTS "INBOX.ToFileLater" IMAP S: * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited * 0 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1370612800] Ok * OK [MYRIGHTS "acdilrsw"] ACL 3d OK [READ-WRITE] Ok IMAP S: * MYRIGHTS "INBOX.ToFileLater" "acdilrsw" 3e OK MYRIGHTS completed. IMAP C: 3f THREAD REFERENCES UTF-8 ALL IMAP S: * THREAD 3f OK THREAD done. (balsa:17147): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity - escape ampersand as & (balsa:17147): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity - escape ampersand as & (balsa:17147): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity - escape ampersand as & IMAP C: 40 EXPUNGE IMAP C: 41 CLOSE IMAP S: 40 OK Completed IMAP S: 41 OK Completed IMAP C: 42 EXPUNGE IMAP C: 43 CLOSE IMAP S: 42 OK Success IMAP S: 43 OK Returned to authenticated state. (Success) IMAP C: 44 EXPUNGE IMAP C: 45 CLOSE IMAP S: 44 OK Success IMAP S: 45 OK Returned to authenticated state. (Success) IMAP C: 46 EXPUNGE IMAP C: 47 CLOSE IMAP S: 46 OK Completed IMAP S: 47 OK Completed IMAP server compression 574 -> 979 sent 58.6 % over wire IMAP client compression 238 -> 228 sent 95.8 % over wire IMAP server compression 359 -> 552 sent 65.0 % over wire IMAP client compression 113 -> 126 sent 111.5 % over wire IMAP server compression 324 -> 454 sent 71.4 % over wire IMAP client compression 61 -> 77 sent 126.2 % over wire IMAP server compression 326 -> 513 sent 63.5 % over wire IMAP client compression 111 -> 108 sent 97.3 % over wire