From jked@mail.com Tue Jan 13 06:00:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21200750007 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.021 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.021 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 951 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [205.158.62.67] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rF04TtU6tvMJ for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D81C75006E for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int (wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int [192.168.8.242]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id E00DC18001BE for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:01 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.51) by wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Jan 2009 06:00:02 -0000 Received: by ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 70023478088; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:02 +0000 (GMT) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_123182640278623" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Michael Parker" To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:00:02 -0500 Subject: passphrases Received: from [96.253.165.182] by ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com with http for jked@mail.com; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:00:02 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 96.253.165.182 X-Originating-Server: ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20090113060002.70023478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:00:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_123182640278623 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases. Are there any resources that explain this? I want to understand the scenario of encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated the key, and then losing that system. -Mike --=20 Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com --_----------=_123182640278623 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases.  Are the= re any resources that explain this?  I want to understand the scenario= of encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated the k= ey, and then losing that system.

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--_----------=_123182640278623-- From adam.schreiber@gmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:25:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67C75006B for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 8134 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13+iA4It2e2I for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f21.google.com (mail-bw0-f21.google.com [209.85.218.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469ED7500AE for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so274970bwz.10 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:25:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Loi4GgFbjsCGobbcgYhYRGE8zGs5sLqanpRCnfVkqDA=; b=XRfMg9FCdFtIpXGznAj098SQfkEKUPiDYVmwX/OUcLNAz+FTKimfEn5q5GwBjViMZv mjyBUb+d1k20Gs1ZKj3M6CIYeFXFYZPknHGXNIrsiAexa7Ptt9LRnBruySgRrlrbJa4I aRAqY8o9J0B/KTeh6Ok3f0tU0Y+nD5AVdiUOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mvByFFQGck98XojXENRWXBrJbhmQ/S9O3+Ey+joN9Clz70fCI8e4WAfIhTWVYD8eTH CFmx9NrN+gKKs28vC86uK50ZDaRPQKtfY0q+dW5gmFmXyFO+vpwx6HDHwHrfExSWm0o2 kHmAvPq9z6sfS6XTHcVgdhHXoT16LpNtgFXwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam.schreiber@gmail.com Received: by 10.180.223.8 with SMTP id v8mr10486350bkg.181.1231863903959; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:25:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090113060002.70023478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090113060002.70023478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:25:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7926e2395c6b16b4 Message-ID: <8298be230901130825hc696ce3l76e8d01cfe884116@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: passphrases From: Adam Schreiber To: Michael Parker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:15 -0000 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Michael Parker wrote: > I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases. Are there any > resources that explain this? I want to understand the scenario of > encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated the key, > and then losing that system. I would direct you to the GPG manual [1] for a description of passphrase and key security. Cheers, Adam > > -Mike > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! > _______________________________________________ > Seahorse-list mailing list > Seahorse-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/seahorse-list > > From adam.schreiber@gmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:25:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A75E750071 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 8134 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KKhoSsIUDy05 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f21.google.com (mail-bw0-f21.google.com [209.85.218.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35B575006B for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so263850bwz.15 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:25:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zC+cN7Sv+BiXu2Pw2+/0tI4J5ObKPKhPy1QC8mmIEYM=; b=faZhob1ttqE/KUMhFyhZEPE0S9D17j2FNEFp3DES47+s+fAaNQFL1NFvpX74M73NwH sVwzmHcZvE8ZqzxUBi5G58m+h+qWfWtlr2p1RJ/XPEND8wOW6yAzF8/841zdR0nNH/0K Vcon7tzpi2vsrd3Bx2dN7dENDZwBMQ+nBjRqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=eiUcvKHpR/bMGIubdJXnf0jqOtK6GaF7TdnjikCISnczexZNT3gwxdzeokHLsAiiW4 3f6NPnasepbAwCsUqcyyn5cHgm7O2xLWnF/CFfX5GUBiA71bpxsZO/5gxur2Xa8jCTe2 ElNSDNMiwZkxMIOoQojz+ET3ionkBHWy8mgSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam.schreiber@gmail.com Received: by 10.181.198.10 with SMTP id a10mr11431136bkq.120.1231863935279; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:25:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8298be230901130825hc696ce3l76e8d01cfe884116@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090113060002.70023478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> <8298be230901130825hc696ce3l76e8d01cfe884116@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:25:34 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 44528afe59fe0884 Message-ID: <8298be230901130825q4584bc0dhe3a039bf8ae8db5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: passphrases From: Adam Schreiber To: Michael Parker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:46 -0000 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Michael Parker wrote: >> I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases. Are there any >> resources that explain this? I want to understand the scenario of >> encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated the key, >> and then losing that system. > > I would direct you to the GPG manual [1] for a description of > passphrase and key security. > Whoops, missed the link. [1] http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN513 > > >> >> -Mike >> >> -- >> Be Yourself @ mail.com! >> Choose From 200+ Email Addresses >> Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! >> _______________________________________________ >> Seahorse-list mailing list >> Seahorse-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/seahorse-list >> >> > From jked@mail.com Wed Jan 14 06:00:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FA27500BF for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.468 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.468 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 975 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [205.158.62.67] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cQofwmUf5N9X for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1E37500B5 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int (wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com.int [192.168.8.242]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 91C2918001AC for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:09 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.182) by wfilter3.us4.outblaze.com; 14 Jan 2009 06:00:09 -0000 Received: by ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F0551CE8FB; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:09 +0000 (GMT) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1231912809198390" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Michael Parker" To: "Adam Schreiber" Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:00:09 -0500 Subject: Re: passphrases Received: from [96.253.165.182] by ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jked@mail.com; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:00:09 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 96.253.165.182 X-Originating-Server: ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20090114060009.9F0551CE8FB@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Cc: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:00:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_1231912809198390 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thank you. The link describes the scenario I have in mind. In particular it says: To help safeguard your key, GnuPG does not store your raw private key on disk. Instead it encrypts it using a symmetric encryption algorithm. That is why you need a passphrase to access the key. I guess this is more of a question for GnuPG because I still don't really know the computational difficulty of brute force decrypting the private key (assuming you pick a passphrase that is too hard to guess). A possibly related question is how long and "random" does the passphrase have to be to make guessing it on par with decrypting the private key.=20 Again this seems like a question for GnuPG. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Schreiber" To: "Michael Parker" Cc: seahorse-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: passphrases Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:25:34 -0500 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Michael Parker wrote: >> I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases. Are there any >> resources that explain this? I want to understand the scenario of >> encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated the key, >> and then losing that system. > > I would direct you to the GPG manual [1] for a description of > passphrase and key security. > Whoops, missed the link. [1] http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN513 > > >> >> -Mike >> >> -- >> Be Yourself @ mail.com! >> Choose From 200+ Email Addresses >> Get a Free Account at www.mail.com! >> _______________________________________________ >> Seahorse-list mailing list >> Seahorse-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/seahorse-list >> >> > --=20 Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com --_----------=_1231912809198390 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Thank you.  The link describes the scenario I have in mind.  In p= articular it says:

To help safeguard your key, GnuPG does not store = your raw private key on disk. Instead it encrypts it using a symmetric encryption algorithm. That is why you need a passphrase to access the key.

I guess this is= more of a question for GnuPG because I still don't really know the computa= tional difficulty of brute force decrypting the private key (assuming you p= ick a passphrase that is too hard to guess).  A possibly related quest= ion is how long and "random" does the passphrase have to be to make guessin= g it on par with decrypting the private key.  Again this seems like a = question for GnuPG.

Thanks

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Schreiber"
To: "Michael Parker"
Cc: seahorse-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: passphrases
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:25:34 -0500


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Adam Schreiber wrote:=
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Michael Parker wrote:=
>> I am interested in knowing about the security of passphrases. Are= there any
>> resources that explain this? I want to understand the scenario of=
>> encrypting a file that stays on the same system where I generated = the key,
>> and then losing that system.
>
> I would direct you to the GPG manual [1] for a description of
> passphrase and key security.
>

Whoops, missed the link.

[1] http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN513


>
>
>>
>> -Mike
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--_----------=_1231912809198390-- From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Fri Jan 16 17:12:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77537500C4 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1161 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.12] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LEWGx6KJlH1c for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f12.google.com (mail-fx0-f12.google.com [209.85.220.12]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBB7500B7 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so325672fxm.15 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:12:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=rou3nJiJNH39cnI0hhCKFyQZb7IPIfZQbIK4GCq2mQY=; b=E9h97Rkq66D/4VDxkO87DHKE0RlAdKWXq3P6b/CuEfzTj0u7Z9HIBF4dRzImwRLbCx T5nR3abFdmlM7/kR1EjgQ3C5sgfsSCqy14yi43+JPSswKHRQvWsNl3yWhWe2qP4y6Mfi 0iD/lnO9V1/pA15tGWcLNL96cDEHzvn/DpEcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aUO4UK/DcTG8jFdqd8d+AJVr4oNsp4S+tIx8ZlpCUfmljNhsbakIioTBCQu56uo9j5 YOrbKhcz57NV+KnBt4KIcFsiw/LHo58Oz2Ualst+1Aim8CzRK+JhdNEZh0PLyYvWmhaj p6d/0BBwrkoLu8CL+iwRGJHfiJpWiGoLwH4qU= Received: by 10.181.145.6 with SMTP id x6mr916158bkn.25.1232125956810; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.144.9 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:12:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:12:36 -0500 From: "Matthias Clasen" To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Subject: empty password tab MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:46 -0000 Hey, with seahorse 2.25.4 and gnome-keyring 2.25.4.2 in rawhide, the Password tab is empty, and I can't find any keyring related prefences, so no obvious way to change that. I'm not really sure where to start debugging this. Is it just a result of incomplete ongoing refactorings in gnome-keyring ? Matthias From marcferguson@gmail.com Sat Jan 17 07:08:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DA77500D2 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:08:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 9444 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.236] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UGCIlWs0hJs for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D34750087 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:08:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2046690rvb.3 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:08:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BvWUY+TVevBJ5SzyQ0iTfx3L87ZV2X7wF/NQxRcalU4=; b=fV5EakZwWwiq3wCSwQBKh7JeD14lkLymWGQYiYqXVHBBsVIySQun9lHedG6PNAu9/d VoONl963RfjIh2mVIeHg9orMp1qZi+c5FLU2+pFXte5LIdnVzYl6lBN1F9uQ6FUjE/TQ Y085RVdhlQbPlrhZO5weELZ93XpPtFOFMIvUM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UP+od9iGQjPE2KiFmX61obeq7b+Wa2Ajj6axOh/CBm1hNeFu/Ku7sLK1dOu9df+sHK 3Aik+823bs/l0UtZDergAOcnjEkW3D+Iw7zQAZ9yBF6rEbCIMPws6iPDD1RNqPgn2UxT 40ZNXIiDw8SxdiVPFQNO1qP4NcwkxJUGOwWo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.70.11 with SMTP id s11mr1387171wfa.141.1232176082103; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:08:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:08:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Program Keeps Freezing From: Marc Ferguson To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e90729acad6b0460a85953 X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:08:11 -0000 --001636e90729acad6b0460a85953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm running Fedora 10 x86_64 and Seahorse 2.24.1-1 x86_64 and I seem to be having a problem with the program freezing up on me when I'm trying to edit certain things for my personal keys. I have two keys and when I try to change the "photo" or "passphrase", it locks up and I have to force it to close. Please help. Thanks. -- Marc F. www.fergytech.com Registered Linux User: #410978 "When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" -Marc F. --001636e90729acad6b0460a85953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I'm running Fedora 10 x86_64 and Seahorse 2.24.1-1 x86_64 an= d I seem to be having a problem with the program freezing up on me when I&#= 39;m trying to edit certain things for my personal keys.  I have two k= eys and when I try to change the "photo" or "passphrase"= ;, it locks up and I have to force it to close.  Please help.  Th= anks.

--
Marc F.

www.fergytec= h.com
Registered Linux User: #410978

"When life gives me= lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" -Marc F.
--001636e90729acad6b0460a85953-- From arcriley@gmail.com Tue Jan 20 03:13:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2630975006A for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:13:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10125 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.239] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gTeqWJPwXz2u for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:13:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825BF750004 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so3244075rvb.3 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:13:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7CFMY/ieiD6AtzyB0gfbmjC+YFo287xho12V4kWWTYU=; b=RCB4N0swFqGQhZkmxKW5MP16KI7poe+VBfk+TRaGUYGcb6z/6pkOKyMAXSHjifeS9I kQ5RCoodMNp+bd1RUmkK9BcRGB1FwQVvw8Fmw+f/0/MFJVYVHY+f3vEXahrCu+B9/4ug FT5yN8cVuPAvKSSQ4j0wf6gSJkYtVPqRXJMZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=J5pQkiIFTp+y6IxG1WJO2dDetnoN39yBJaBQnDJ3+y+D48iQ0ialcbT/sYFAi2KXtG Ot9Jvw0XnVg+u6wQQIIvyPNOBcYxihlffhOXdGc/X0vp6M+ZdJS8ipHzb6dFWu3GNk0b mdekMosIxkHmCjyjtetTpcUquwZTutztK5Ef0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.194.6 with SMTP id w6mr699220rvp.257.1232421205133; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:13:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:13:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: XMPP x.509 client cert managament From: Arc Riley To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd259b82549e90460e16c00 X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:13:36 -0000 --000e0cd259b82549e90460e16c00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Stef, all I've been talking to Adam tonight about adding support for publishing/managing client auth certs to an XMPP server. Here's a background for why and how; Currently most XMPP client authenticates with a username/password via SASL over a TLS-encrypted stream. This is secure, but often the client stores the password cleartext on their hard drive for autologin. This is a real problem in that for many users their XMPP server is gmail.com, meaning someone getting their password also gets access to their email. SASL EXTERNAL provides support for allowing password-less login when the x.509 client cert used to establish TLS is known to the server to belong to the given user. What has until recently been undefined is how the server establishes this. XEP-0257 describes an method to publish and manage client x.509 certs such that a password is only needed to cert management, and the IM client thus never needs access to the password. If, ie, your mobile phone is stolen, you can log in from home using your password and remove the cert your mobile phone uses from your account using your password. There may also be a number of XMPP clients installed and in-use by a single user at one time, since XMPP is being used for much more than basic IM. We're integrating it into our game engine, for example, to share buddy list and chat between games and out of game, and I'm very concerned about the temptation of stealing online identities through game "patch" code. To make this easy to use, I proposed integrating this into gkr and providing x.509 certs only to clients authorized for that specific cert, thus allowing (but not requiring) every XMPP client to have their own unique cert while giving the user a single place on their desktop to manage all their keys. I discussed this earlier tonight with some Gnome developers who sent me to talk to Adam. Seahorse already handles x.509 cert management and gkr. The interaction with clients is already taken care of. The part I'm proposing to add is in interfacing with the XMPP server to publish and manage the certificates. To do this in a short amount of code I'm going to need to add an XMPP client library as a "soft dependency". Adam suggested using the same library as Telepathy, to keep Gnome's dependency list small. Telepathy currently uses loudmouth and are migrating away from it for the same reason we're moving away from it for our game engine. There are many crappy XMPP client libraries in the community. The original author of Icecast and an xmpp.org board member, Jack Moffitt, recently wrote a small (78k compiled, 7k lines of code) library called libstrophe to replace loudmouth. I have a high degree of faith in Jack and will also note that seahorse's use of XMPP will be limited to logging in and publishing certs, getting a list of currently added certs, and removing them from the server. Telepathy is in the early stages of writing their internal replacement, they can't use libstrophe because it's licensed GPL and Telepathy is LGPL. At ~78k, I think we're bikeshedding the issue, especially as a better alternative isn't currently available. There'll only be around 100 lines of code added to seahorse which interface with the XMPP library so replacing it in the future should not be difficult. libstrophe by default compiles as a static library and appears to be intended to distribute bundled with packages that depend on it. I've started packaging it for different distros as a share library so our game engine can use it as such. It could just as ready be bundled with seahorse as a static library or just include the source files from it into the XMPP code to be added to seahorse. The other questions that are raised are what the UI for managing keys on the server. Adam suggested reusing the keyserver results window with a context menu providing a "remove" option. I don't know enough about how this would look to suggest an alternative, I'd just like the window not to be titled or otherwise present the listed keys as search results. This extension is an experimental draft, so in adding this functionality I'll be taking responsibility to update the code to reflect any changes in the protocol until the XEP is accepted (which may be years from now, many XEPs are supported in software before they're standardized). http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0257.html --000e0cd259b82549e90460e16c00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Stef, all

I've been talking to Adam tonight about adding sup= port for publishing/managing client auth certs to an XMPP server.  Her= e's a background for why and how;

Currently most XMPP client aut= henticates with a username/password via SASL over a TLS-encrypted stream.&n= bsp; This is secure, but often the client stores the password cleartext on = their hard drive for autologin.  This is a real problem in that for ma= ny users their XMPP server is gmail.com, m= eaning someone getting their password also gets access to their email.

SASL EXTERNAL provides support for allowing password-less login when th= e x.509 client cert used to establish TLS is known to the server to belong = to the given user.  What has until recently been undefined is how the = server establishes this.  XEP-0257 describes an method to publish and = manage client x.509 certs such that a password is only needed to cert manag= ement, and the IM client thus never needs access to the password.  If,= ie, your mobile phone is stolen, you can log in from home using your passw= ord and remove the cert your mobile phone uses from your account using your= password.

There may also be a number of XMPP clients installed and in-use by a si= ngle user at one time, since XMPP is being used for much more than basic IM= .  We're integrating it into our game engine, for example, to shar= e buddy list and chat between games and out of game, and I'm very conce= rned about the temptation of stealing online identities through game "= patch" code.

To make this easy to use, I proposed integrating this into gkr and prov= iding x.509 certs only to clients authorized for that specific cert, thus a= llowing (but not requiring) every XMPP client to have their own unique cert= while giving the user a single place on their desktop to manage all their = keys.  I discussed this earlier tonight with some Gnome developers who= sent me to talk to Adam.

Seahorse already handles x.509 cert management and gkr.  The inter= action with clients is already taken care of.  The part I'm propos= ing to add is in interfacing with the XMPP server to publish and manage the= certificates.  To do this in a short amount of code I'm going to = need to add an XMPP client library as a "soft dependency".

Adam suggested using the same library as Telepathy, to keep Gnome's= dependency list small.  Telepathy currently uses loudmouth and are mi= grating away from it for the same reason we're moving away from it for = our game engine.  There are many crappy XMPP client libraries in the c= ommunity.  The original author of Icecast and an xmpp.org board member, Jack Moffitt, recently wrote a small (78k= compiled, 7k lines of code) library called libstrophe to replace loudmouth= .  I have a high degree of faith in Jack and will also note that seaho= rse's use of XMPP will be limited to logging in and publishing certs, g= etting a list of currently added certs, and removing them from the server.<= br>
Telepathy is in the early stages of writing their internal replacement,= they can't use libstrophe because it's licensed GPL and Telepathy = is LGPL.  At ~78k, I think we're bikeshedding the issue, especiall= y as a better alternative isn't currently available.  There'll= only be around 100 lines of code added to seahorse which interface with th= e XMPP library so replacing it in the future should not be difficult. = libstrophe by default compiles as a static library and appears to be inten= ded to distribute bundled with packages that depend on it.  I've s= tarted packaging it for different distros as a share library so our game en= gine can use it as such.  It could just as ready be bundled with seaho= rse as a static library or just include the source files from it into the X= MPP code to be added to seahorse.

The other questions that are raised are what the UI for managing keys o= n the server.  Adam suggested reusing the keyserver results window wit= h a context menu providing a "remove" option.  I don't k= now enough about how this would look to suggest an alternative, I'd jus= t like the window not to be titled or otherwise present the listed keys as = search results.

This extension is an experimental draft, so in adding this functionalit= y I'll be taking responsibility to update the code to reflect any chang= es in the protocol until the XEP is accepted (which may be years from now, = many XEPs are supported in software before they're standardized).

http://xmpp.org/ex= tensions/xep-0257.html
--000e0cd259b82549e90460e16c00-- From adam.schreiber@gmail.com Wed Jan 21 01:47:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3A77500BB for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:47:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 9908 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BJoQEQi-iKCF for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:47:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f21.google.com (mail-bw0-f21.google.com [209.85.218.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D4B750075 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:47:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so11569373bwz.15 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EoNHHOQR7jD51jH8laVMtut8lgjMlS/TWhIkVYGzLkA=; b=cjXB5q1kGpbOGjWxD5SQYkV592pSv5Ft6z6rgsQOyGtcMDZlG7FlmbLS5XK9jwC6Ts OU+O1I75wWkLO+MXCZ7ZnY3dnStS23S1EM3MEHU7KQ2i7gBZKvdA0Ty+5azoYVVIXrrh lsvZ3PaRG5Raf4KGhJ0e/+atNQgGIPAcGXIXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=h9pHYamlviCC2UjYA3y+eFOSNq7riEAHjTsZ7WCFtueOquqV0L4WoGwPxdS7YLP0uT K/BWkVWl+/chIHC+NLmjXSlbKYl2ge3S5fyIpIksBpZ4BgWnDWge1+RgBZJMecTXpx+U 1EIT/T0X0NGLl5FuLcxE5stCfFT+3/mR8iSXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam.schreiber@gmail.com Received: by 10.181.5.14 with SMTP id h14mr2704316bki.22.1232502456071; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:47:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:47:36 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 27cbf1e6c49f7e6f Message-ID: <8298be230901201747q2888ad19xe684ddf80b89a2bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Program Keeps Freezing From: Adam Schreiber To: Marc Ferguson , seahorse-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:47:46 -0000 Could you try the latest svn? Recently a x64 fix was checked in. Adam On 1/17/09, Marc Ferguson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Fedora 10 x86_64 and Seahorse 2.24.1-1 x86_64 and I seem to be > having a problem with the program freezing up on me when I'm trying to edit > certain things for my personal keys. I have two keys and when I try to > change the "photo" or "passphrase", it locks up and I have to force it to > close. Please help. Thanks. > > -- > Marc F. > > www.fergytech.com > Registered Linux User: #410978 > > "When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" -Marc F. > From teuf@gnome.org Thu Jan 22 20:05:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E37B75039F for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:05:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.639 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.639 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (1203?) (up: 3060 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [216.33.127.80] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UULHob-7xD0V for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6F37503B4 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090122200508.PME21265.mta11.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:05:08 -0500 Received: from rpetu ([71.88.192.73]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20090122200507.GNWD128.aarprv06.charter.net@rpetu> for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:05:07 -0500 From: "Christophe Fergeau" Subject: Wake Up World! Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:04:57 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <20090122200507.GNWD128.aarprv06.charter.net@rpetu> X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: teuf@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:05:17 -0000 If you want to know who the real establishment is in America and around the world, the real power behind the so-called ''military-industrial complex'', the real maleficent power that has led this world to inexorable conflict, war, hatreds, destruction of real human values, morality, conscience — it is the global media establishment. This same media witnessed the Zionist slaughter of 1,300 people in Gaza, and the maiming of 6,000 more, half of them women and children. More than 20,000 homes and buildings were destroyed or damaged and thousands became homeless. This horrendous mass slaughter of Palestinians is compared to the loss of 3 Israeli civilians. Yet, the media never dare to call this slaughter exactly what it is: terrorism on a horrendous scale! This same American and global media has not informed the American people or the people of the world of the damning truth about Barack Obama. In truth, Obama is a complete creation of extremist Jewish Zionists and he has already begun to serve Israel by his top appointments. The Jewish-dominated media in America is promoting the Obama inauguration as akin to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. (If you question Jewish control of the media read Who Runs the Media? and you will find documentation proving the Jewish control being far greater than you might suspect) The rest of the world’s powerful media (Which also has a powerful Jewish presence in the UK, France, Spain, Sweden, Russia, and the rest of Europe) takes its cues from the NY/Hollywood media axis, and presents Obama as kind of a superhuman agent of real change. In fact, it is a Huge Lie! Obama is completely controlled by the same forces that have controlled George Bush, so much so that The Chicago Tribune quotes leading Jews bragging that Obama is so in the hands of the Zionists that he is ''the first Jewish President.'' Obama received about 80 percent of the Jewish vote in the United States! The Three critical things that made Obama President: 1)Jewish political influence Obama’s chief handler is David Axelrod, a radical Jewish Zionist whose previous claim to fame was the fact that he was the Zionist political hit man against Illinois Senator Charles Percy, who was not deemed to be pro-Israel enough. (He was only 99.9 percent Israel’s lackey, not the required 100 percent) Obama went to Israel and made sure he pronounced himself even more radically pro-Zionist than Bush or McCain. 2) Massive amounts of Jewish money Obama’s campaign was kicked in high gear by Jewish Hollywood and financial moguls. In just one of the early fundraising parties in Hollywood by Spielberg, Geffen and Katzenburg it raised over a million dollars for Obama. Obama raised more money than any political candidate in American history and his biggest contributors were overwhelmingly Jewish activists, Jewish international finance and banking firms and Jewish globalists. His largest single contributor was the international Jewish Banking firm of Goldman Sachs. He received more money from the same international bankers that ripped off trillions of dollars in the recent economic scandals than even John McCain. Is a man totally under the power of the most powerful financial organizations in the entire world, really an agent of ''change?'' 3) Overwhelming positive support in the Jewish-dominated media By a large margin, Jewish-owned media officially endorsed Obama, and that is not counting tens of thousands of positive articles by Jewish; owned publications and pundits. Obama’s first act as President-elect was to appoint a Jewish extremist, dual citizen, Rahm Emmanuel, as his chief of staff. As the people of Gaza were slaughtered, Obama would not make a single statement to stop this murder and maiming of thousands of innocents! Israel, very carefully timed its terrorist attack on Gaza to be in the remaining days of the Bush Administration. The day before Obama’s inauguration Israel announced that it would be completely out of Gaza by the time Obama took his oath of office. Why? Before Obama took office, Israel could make this terrorist slaughter against Palestinians and Obama would still be perceived as having clean hands. Because Obama is completely under their control, they want him to have an image of fairness, honor and peacefulness, and as representing a new direction of American policy, as he begins to deal with the Mideast turmoil. Since he is Israel’s boy in the White House, what better scenario could they have than a President perceived as practically the Second Coming, of high moral conviction, and dedicated to fairness, but who is actually bound hand-and-foot to the Zionist agenda, just as the last president’s have been. Talk about a perfect shill. And the game is working, for even many Palestinians are filled with hope that the new President will work to end their long suffering. With an almost godlike positive image around the world, a Barack Obama who is in reality controlled by Israel, is a much bigger danger than was even George Bush. We know what Bush is, but too many Americans and other peoples around the world are falling for the lies about the new ''savior'' of the world: Barack Obama. He already says we are to put thousands of new troops in Afghanistan and has rattled the sabers against Iran. Obama with highest positive image (created by media) in the world is in a more dangerous position to lead us into catastrophic wars than George Bush ever was. Jewish screenwriters in Hollywood couldn’t have written a better script for the Zionist agenda than what is being played out on inauguration day, USA. Of course, why should they write it, they did it. God save America, God save the Palestinians, God save peace and justice in the world! –david duke Source: http://www.davidduke.com/general/wake-up-world-meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss_7225.html --------------------------------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. 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(up: 407 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [75.180.132.122] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMtGJi05gpSq for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1EB7503E9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw8xi ([74.78.228.234]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090125161205.MAON2046.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@gw8xi> for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:05 +0000 From: "Lawrence Auster" Subject: Obama -- The Judas Goat To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:12:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <20090125161205.MAON2046.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@gw8xi> X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: otte@gnome.org List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:12:09 -0000 Obama -- The Judas Goat 1/25/2009 By David Duke Judas Goat\ A goat that leads other goats or sheep to slaughter. Also, one who entices into danger and betrays others. The name is an allusion to Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of slaughter. (From Merriam Webster’s Dictionary) Barack Hussein Obama is a Judas Goat. Extremist Jews guided Barack Hussein Obama’s career from day one, even all the way back to Harvard Law School. Radical Zionist hitman, David Axelrod previously orchestrated the Jewish-financed and organized defeat of perceived anti-Zionist Sen. Charles Percy. He is the man who ran Obama’s campaign for President and who is his chief handler. Obama’s campaign was overwhelmingly financed by the most powerful Zionist bankers in the world. His campaign’s largest contribution source was the Zionist international banking firm of Goldman Sachs. (FEC campaign records). In both Obama’s Senate and Presidential campaign he prostrated himself before AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) promising even more money and blood for Israel’s terrorism than even the supine John McCain, and even more money and blood than the previous Shabbez Goy in the White House, George Bush. Before the Israeli terrorism and mass murder in Gaza, he went to Israel and said that he supported Israel’s p lanned murderous terrorism against the men, women and children of Gaza. His first act as President-elect was to appoint a rabid Zionist, Israeli dual citizen who served in the Israeli Army as his Chief of Staff, Rahm Emmanuel. As thousands of women and children in Gaza were killed or maimed, Obama remained silent. Within a few days as President Obama supported indiscriminate American missile strikes in villages of our ally Pakistan, a clear continuation of Bush’s policies. He completely supports the theft of trillions of American taxpayer dollars to the Zionist international bankers. Eighty percent of American Jews voted for Obama, and all the main leaders of the Jewish Supremacist state of Israel have proclaimed Obama as the perfect man for U.S. President. What better for the Zionists to have their own servant perceived as a clean break from the Jewish extremist-controlled Bush administration? What better than for the Zionists than to have their Shabbez Goy be treated by the world’s press and even by much of the anti-Zionist community as a man of “real change?” What better for the Zionists than for the world to think that Obama will be a change from the Zionist-controlled policies when he willing to do anything that Israel demands? What better for the Zionist murderers to have their craven puppet be looked at by the whole world as a man of honor and integrity and fairness. In the slaughterhouse, the Judas Goat is often painted with bright colors, adorned with strong, sweet scents to lure the sheep to their pens and to their death. Obama, the Judas Goat of our time, is looked upon by millions of Zionist-propagandized sheep as the man who will lead them to salvation. Instead, he leads America, Palestine and the world to the bloody altar of Jewish Supremacism. Any supposed anti-Zionist who praises Barack Obama is actually aiding this Judas Goat to lead us all to slaughter. Every person who truly opposes Jewish extremism must speak out and expose the Judas Goat named Barack Obama! – Dr. David Duke Former Member of the House of Representatives State of Louisiana United States of America It is up to you the people of the United States who can still think freely, and up to all of the people of the world who are able to see through the deceptions of the Zionist-influenced Global media -- to get this simple, powerful message to everyone on earth. Email this message to your friends, post it on forums and websites and put links to it on every website, facebook or other media in the world. Go and seek out media and Internet sites not controlled by Zionist power. Make youtube videos of this message, (use the short audio and find good illustrative pictures) and post it untill your fingers are worn and tired, print it and mail it to newspapers or any media outlet that has still not fallen under the propaganda of the Zionists. Let the world know the truth. Person by person, in the USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Italy, japan, Russia, China, Africa, Palestine, South America and across the whole world this Judas Goat must be exposed for what he is, so that when begin s to do his evil for Israel, the whole world will know exactly what is going on and resist! Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/obama-the-judas-goat_7317.html ------------------------ Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy that Obama is President of the USA? by David Duke Read the excerpt from the Israeli News about how President Perez and Israel think that Obama’s becoming U.S. President is great day for Israel. "Israel’s President Shimon Peres ecstatic over the election of Obama" Ronen Medzini Israel News Jan. 21 “Today is a great day not only for the United States of America, but for the entire world,” President Shimon Peres wrote in a letter addressed to Barack Obama on the day of his inauguration as president of the United States. “Obama was elected by the United States, but as a matter of fact, he was chosen by the whole of humankind,” Why is Peres so ecstatic? Why shouldn’t he be, he knows that Obama is completely in the grip of the extremist Jewish Zionists in America, and he knows that the greater Obama’s popularity and idol worship, the more Obama can do for the International Zionist Cause. Any thinking and caring human being who realizes that the Zionist-controlled American foreign policy has been a disaster for the robbed and murdered people of Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and a catastrophe for the 50,000 American wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as an economic catastrophe for the hardworking Americans who pay trillions to finance these wars for Israel -- must wake up the fact that supporting Obama and increasing his popularity will only aid Zionist terrorism, war, and their murder and oppression of the Palestinians. It will also hasten the economic suffering of billions of people around the world as his popularity enables him to more easily aid the Zionist International Bankers steal the wealth of the United States, Europe and the world. Obama is totally in the bloodstained and green ink- stained hands of the Zionists. The hard truth is that the more good will and support Obama has also gives more power to support the Zionist agenda! Mark my words. The Obama Presidency will be disaster for America and for the world. Obama was put into office by the Zionists. His top two cohorts for years have been the radical Jews David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel. Both have long records of radical Zionism and have been attack dogs against anyone perceived as having the slightest opposition to Israel. One such victim was Sen. Charles Percy, who both men worked to defeat and destroy because he dared to only be 99 percent rather than 100 percent pro-Israel. Rahm Emmanuel, a dual citizen of Israel who went to fight for Israel, he has a long pedigree of Jewish extremism. His father served in the Irgun Terrorist Gang and he himself is named after an Irgun terrorist. Zionist leaders in Chicago actually call Obama “the first Jewish President” and boast that Jews were key players in Obama’s every step up the ladder to President. from the very earliest days, extremist Jews were the largest contributors to his campaign. In the beginning of his Presidential bid, three Hollywood Jews that constantly make movies about Jewish suffering, but never about the Zionist terrorism and theft against the Palestinian people, Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and Jeffrey Katzenberg raised 1.2 million for Obama in a single Hollywood party. By the time Obama’s campaign was in full swing, he had huge support from the criminal Zionist International Banking firms such as Goldman Sachs and Lehman brothers. Goldman Sachs was Obama’s biggest single contributor, and his vast war chest came not from American manufacturing firms like GM or even American oil companies, (not one was in his top twenty) it was overwhelmingly dominated by Zionist international bankers, the same ones whose thievery and fraud are giving the world this economic depression. For those looking for meaningful social and political change, do you really think it will come from this man who has already been bought heart, head and soul by the most powerful czars of the international financial establishment and the biggest globalists in the world? I know that many are desperate for change, so desperate that you want to believe anything. But in the face of these facts can’t you see that Obama will be even more dangerous to freedom and justice than even George Bush and his band of Neocons were. What better way to wipe out George Bush’s hated legacy and make the world believe that America has really changed than with the election of Obama. But, all the real Zionist power, Zionist media power, and Zionist financial power in America is still in place, even stronger than ever. Many Americans and others around the world who want to do good are now telling us how wonderful Obama will be as president. What a great change it will be from the old policies. This is because of the Zionist-Controlled media hype, promoting Obama. The fact is that these poor sods are ignorantly helping the radical Zionist agenda in Israel and around the world. Every day that you don’t help expose Obama for the Zionist servant that he actually is, his popularity will be a greater danger to peace and freedom. If the Zionist terrorist Shimon Perez is happy about the coronation of Obama, then why in the hell should you be? –David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/7303_7303.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. If you wish to unsubscribe from our mailing list, please let us know by calling to 1 212 865 1284 Thanks, Lawrence Auster, 238 W 101 St Apt. 3B New York, NY 10025 Contact: lawrence.auster@att.net ------------------------------------- From stef-list@memberwebs.com Wed Jan 28 02:19:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BC275009C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 1462 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.66.100.224] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nwurHEXfLxq7 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.npubs.com (mail.writemehere.com [209.66.100.224]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C7275008C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.npubs.com (avhost [209.66.100.194]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5328C285C; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from northstar-srv2 (unknown [172.27.2.11]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8D18C2856; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Stef User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Schreiber Subject: Re: seahorse refactoring References: <8298be230901251139w4b956a2ds7ba29bd934378fca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090128021902.DB8D18C2856@mx.npubs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Seahorse mailing list X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: stef@memberwebs.com List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:19 -0000 I hope it's okay that I CC this to seahorse-list. Adam Schreiber wrote: > Are there more changes to seahorse in the vein of your refactoring > that are yet to be made that will fix the brokenness of gkr, > libcryptui, dbus before we hit the code freeze? I've started to look > at fixing the non-loading of gkr items and preferences as well as the > lack of proper signing keys returned in the libcryptui signer widget > but it looks like the refactoring is incomplete/you have more ideas > for making seahorse extensible that haven't landed yet and don't want > to step on your toes. I've been out of touch, trying to get all the major changes done before UI freeze next week. I've committed the last of the major library changes to gnome-keyring. Recently a library 'gcr' came about in gnome-keyring as part of the refactoring there. It contains APIs for parsing and importing of certificates/key formats, and various GTK GUI elements. It seems the natural place for the recent certificate additions that I was trying to cram into libcryptui, but didn't really fit. So I've added the certificate UI bits to gcr, and if you're in agreement, I'll make seahorse use those for displaying certificates. I'd then remove them from libcryptui. So in the end libcryptui will look very similar to when this cycle started. Once this is done, I'll helping out with bug fixes and regressions, documentation etc... Cheers, Stef Walter From adam.schreiber@gmail.com Wed Jan 28 02:28:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3309775008C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:28:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 194 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.154] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h25T-UpExywj for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:28:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23DE750080 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so362401fga.33 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:28:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JKs39B3zPBycO+NkpvSG9zweqBV8Nw95xhrrwYKUDis=; b=QHrEDsFJlLL3rwWS0qhnpLM/tqpqTGjlqn/FuyvjStcZLEBOp0Qy/1+rd2TpgbrI4i 6/nJphob23pIP77qcNGfVgxvH8LQJAxZWK9g/joHo4DO9rGg2LH1WP8QFsJUmIs3/lye tEYKbCTw53YH3M7qEHenT9Xaz91ODRupm5ORk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TZxgsB4zSK7nL2A/JJAU+hdOmKYw+oB5QywlPgey4bLmnZTj1IXxiazIxjbdILfU9g nZT1dqMVu8HjtbiPc4dQ+79cJPhp8T57vh510rguL4f0f7xw+EZaOPwbh59pA8zKf3EA SlY6QYdCQwJ3p7RrmKDWZ+Bvvnb7NFnV4UUsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam.schreiber@gmail.com Received: by 10.181.4.1 with SMTP id g1mr1786037bki.100.1233109680419; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:28:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128021902.DB8D18C2856@mx.npubs.com> References: <8298be230901251139w4b956a2ds7ba29bd934378fca@mail.gmail.com> <20090128021902.DB8D18C2856@mx.npubs.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:28:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e79e5fb3d3ac015a Message-ID: <8298be230901271828ya441ea3ra8cfb2a5f3c73215@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: seahorse refactoring From: Adam Schreiber To: stef@memberwebs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Seahorse mailing list X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:28:09 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Stef wrote: > I hope it's okay that I CC this to seahorse-list. > > Adam Schreiber wrote: >> Are there more changes to seahorse in the vein of your refactoring >> that are yet to be made that will fix the brokenness of gkr, >> libcryptui, dbus before we hit the code freeze? I've started to look >> at fixing the non-loading of gkr items and preferences as well as the >> lack of proper signing keys returned in the libcryptui signer widget >> but it looks like the refactoring is incomplete/you have more ideas >> for making seahorse extensible that haven't landed yet and don't want >> to step on your toes. > > I've been out of touch, trying to get all the major changes done before > UI freeze next week. > > I've committed the last of the major library changes to gnome-keyring. > > Recently a library 'gcr' came about in gnome-keyring as part of the > refactoring there. It contains APIs for parsing and importing of > certificates/key formats, and various GTK GUI elements. It seems the > natural place for the recent certificate additions that I was trying to > cram into libcryptui, but didn't really fit. > > So I've added the certificate UI bits to gcr, and if you're in > agreement, I'll make seahorse use those for displaying certificates. I'd > then remove them from libcryptui. So in the end libcryptui will look > very similar to when this cycle started. > > Once this is done, I'll helping out with bug fixes and regressions, > documentation etc... That sounds fine to me. What keys other than the pkcs11/x509 certs does gcr parse? Cheers, Adam From stef-list@memberwebs.com Wed Jan 28 10:17:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: seahorse-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4D475008C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, TW_CD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 1542 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.66.100.224] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FEpzP15ioQIH for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:16:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.npubs.com (mx.npubs.com [209.66.100.224]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2C375009C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:16:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.npubs.com (avhost [209.66.100.194]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218EB8C2B0E; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from northstar-srv2 (unknown [172.27.2.11]) by mx.npubs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDE48C2B0D; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:16:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Stef User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Schreiber Subject: Re: seahorse refactoring References: <8298be230901251139w4b956a2ds7ba29bd934378fca@mail.gmail.com> <20090128021902.DB8D18C2856@mx.npubs.com> <8298be230901271828ya441ea3ra8cfb2a5f3c73215@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090128101650.8DDE48C2B0D@mx.npubs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Seahorse mailing list X-BeenThere: seahorse-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: stef@memberwebs.com List-Id: Discussion relating to developing and using Seahorse List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:01 -0000 Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Stef wrote: >> So I've added the certificate UI bits to gcr, and if you're in >> agreement, I'll make seahorse use those for displaying certificates. I'd >> then remove them from libcryptui. So in the end libcryptui will look >> very similar to when this cycle started. >> >> Once this is done, I'll helping out with bug fixes and regressions, >> documentation etc... > > That sounds fine to me. What keys other than the pkcs11/x509 certs > does gcr parse? None yet, but it'd be awesome to use opencdk to parse OpenPGP keys without having to (brain dead) import them into a keyring. That would be a good future fit for this library. Cheers, Stef Walter