From dcr@nextw3.com Sun Jun 1 18:52:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A242750064 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:52:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Score: 2.649 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_HOST_EQ_PACBELL_D=1.67, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (NAT!) (up: 527 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google/AOL)), [71.137.108.132] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y1m91hipc4sP for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nextw3.homeip.net (ppp-71-137-108-132.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [71.137.108.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86298750050 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nextw3.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE951C001 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Split sidebar From: Daren Robbins To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-pcUS+hPu84pdhSIEUqLw" Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:52:13 -0700 Message-Id: <1212346333.25741.17.camel@Macabre> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:52:21 -0000 --=-pcUS+hPu84pdhSIEUqLw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I've been working on a split-sidebar change to nautilus (2.22.2 from the ubuntu repos) as a bit of a "get familiar with GNOME/GTK+" project, since I have a windows background. I don't know if anything like this is being worked on or tossed around, but would there be any interest in a patch with this change? I won't be offended either way :-) http://www.nextw3.com/programming/Nautilus-MultipleSidebar-Screenshot.png Apologies if this is the wrong place to post something like this... --=-pcUS+hPu84pdhSIEUqLw Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,

I've been working on a split-sidebar change to nautilus (2.22.2 from the ubuntu repos) as a bit of a "get familiar with GNOME/GTK+" project, since I have a windows background. I don't know if anything like this is being worked on or tossed around, but would there be any interest in a patch with this change? I won't be offended either way :-)

http://www.nextw3.com/programming/Nautilus-MultipleSidebar-Screenshot.png

Apologies if this is the wrong place to post something like this... --=-pcUS+hPu84pdhSIEUqLw-- From nano-master@gmx.de Sun Jun 1 19:49:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068A750050 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:49:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 1062 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QovMAIDyrbxB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:48:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE6D0750179 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:48:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jun 2008 19:48:53 -0000 Received: from g227076141.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [92.227.76.141]) [92.227.76.141] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2008 21:48:53 +0200 X-Authenticated: #25137006 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ZI1xUCE9ZC+O5cDHLoxUXZOLaAor7PBF/zoV2Jn Gqg9H+xiQdIyWg Subject: Re: Split sidebar From: Christopher Bratusek To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1212346333.25741.17.camel@Macabre> References: <1212346333.25741.17.camel@Macabre> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:45:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1212349554.26224.2.camel@EXCELSIOR.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:49:03 -0000 Am Sonntag, den 01.06.2008, 11:52 -0700 schrieb Daren Robbins: > but would there be any interest in a patch with this change? I won't > be offended either way :-) There's interest. Mine. That would be cool to have in the official branch. [But a patch satisfies me, too ;) ] From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Sun Jun 1 23:23:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305A750151 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:23:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.807 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.807 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.792, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 23, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IQNHofCH7wMx for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33147500DE for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:22:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m51NMjml023344 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:22:45 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K1T001014WVOI00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:22:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from calmac.tolka.local ([212.2.175.227]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K1T003AN4XSQ2A0@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:22:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:22:40 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: Split sidebar In-reply-to: <1212346333.25741.17.camel@Macabre> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Daren Robbins Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE References: <1212346333.25741.17.camel@Macabre> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:23:26 -0000 On 1 Jun 2008, at 19:52, Daren Robbins wrote: > =EF=BB=BFHello, > > I've been working on a split-sidebar change to nautilus (2.22.2 fro= m =20 > the ubuntu repos) as a bit of a "get familiar with GNOME/GTK+" = =20 > project, since I have a windows background. I don't know if anythin= g =20 > like this is being worked on or tossed around, but would there be = =20 > any interest in a patch with this change? I won't be offended eithe= r =20 > way :-) Interesting idea, although right now I'd personally like to see us = =20 trying to simplify the sidebar rather than making it any more =20 complex :) (Step 0: find out how many of the existing sidebar views = =20 people *really* use... figure out if the tree view really still = =20 useful since the Mac-style list view was introduced a while ago... = =20 etc...) Cheeri, Calum. --=20 CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsyste= ms From fcrozat@mandriva.com Mon Jun 2 07:53:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C8275017E for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:53:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 97 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.150.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i1Pl-7mZ4FQZ for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:53:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mandriva.com (mx1.mandriva.com [212.85.150.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77053750114 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:53:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mx1.mandriva.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 801B51F0086; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:54:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from office.mandriva.com (office-abk.mandriva.com [84.55.162.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "office.mandrakesoft.com", Issuer "smtp.mandrakesoft.com" (not verified)) by mx1.mandriva.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5DE1F0078 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:54:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.216] (trinidad.mandriva.com [192.168.100.216]) by office.mandriva.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7484C7EE2 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency From: Frederic Crozat To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Organization: Mandriva Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:53:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1212393181.4682.18.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0-4mdv2008.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:53:12 -0000 Le samedi 31 mai 2008 07:28 +0200, Vitezslav Kotrla a crit : > I may have finally solved one of thumbnailing mysteries I've met in > nautilus 2.22: > > While working with ufraw I've noticed that exported JPEG files got only > generic 'image' type icon, not proper thumbnail. When I accidentally > renamed one such file, it was instantly re-thumbnailed, this time > correctly. > > It looks like ufraw creates empty JPEG file when conversion begins and > it takes some time while data are finally written. In the meantime > nautilus fails to thumbnail an empty file, so generic image filetype > icon is assigned. > > Also enfuse works this way - it creates empty JPEG file first and starts > writing output data later (20 seconds during my simple test, but of > course even later depending on the workload). > > I wonder what is the proper solution? I'd say : if thumbnailing fails initially and if file is still open, monitor file close for writing and then, regenerate thumbnail. I know inotify supports this ( IN_CLOSE_WRITE ) but I don't know if this kind of granularity is available in gvfs.. -- Frederic Crozat Mandriva From gilles.dartiguelongue@esiee.org Mon Jun 2 08:42:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B5D750124 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:42:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 3390 hrs), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [147.215.1.3] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0owCQjNdGzgo for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:42:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649D17503CE for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:42:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id C663D25CB6 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5AE25F79 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.30.0.26] (wiki.comwax.com [88.191.63.61]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dartigug) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FEB5E7D1F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: NFS mounts From: Gilles Dartiguelongue To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-A2Xor9TRO1HWHsW93iUa" Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:42:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1212396121.6756.6.camel@woix.comwax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:42:30 -0000 --=-A2Xor9TRO1HWHsW93iUa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list, Per http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.nautilus/11160/match=3Dnautilus +nfs+mounts nfs mounts are simply not shown anymore in nautilus which is a "feature" regression comparing to 2.20. (Additional reading http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D520736#c1 ). At gentoo, we have this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D216286 which clearly shows that some users liked that behavior (me included). Would it be possible to have this feature back ? I can write patches if pointed to where to start :) Thanks for considering. --=20 Gilles Dartiguelongue --=-A2Xor9TRO1HWHsW93iUa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhDslkACgkQ1fmVwcYIWAbIXACfQB+lsePxbGYp16qJbypt8npG hgQAoKP26FjcD74e3LkspVvHcQEtPogi =Rrw+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-A2Xor9TRO1HWHsW93iUa-- From achim.frase@googlemail.com Mon Jun 2 12:30:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682BE7504FB for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:30:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7998 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.157] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0BXPLFvHXt+H for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B249750505 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so807935fgb.33 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr5284660fgb.19.1212409806157; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.59? ( [87.167.200.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm4684454fga.2.2008.06.02.05.30.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus Space Mock-up From: Achim Frase To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:30:00 +0200 Message-Id: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:30:18 -0000 Hello everybody, I have created a little mock-up for nautilus. http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/82416-nautilus-tabs-space.png The bars don't represent the actually size of the files in this picture. To my mind, the bars should show how big the files are, in relation to the folder size. folder size = count of file sizes = 100% I have made a little example of how to measure the bars. Folder size = 299,00 MB = 100% Name Size Type Space file1 180 MB wav 60,20% file2 90 MB ogg 30,10% file3 8 MB mp3 2,68% file4 7 MB mp3 2,34% file5 6 MB mp2 2,01% file6 5 MB mp3 1,67% file7 2 MB mp3 0,67% file8 1 MB mp3 0,33% ------------------------------- 299 MB 100% Instead of the percentage, there should be a bar, like in the picture. And this is an example of how to deal with sub folders. +folder1 = 100% |--file1 = 50% of folder1 |--file2 = 30% of folder1 |-+folder2 = 20% of folder1, = 100% |-file1 = 50% of folder2 |-file2 = 25% of folder2  |-file3 = 25% of folder2 I hope my achievements are understandable. This all is inspired by Brasero 0.7.90 (Data Project) and Baobab. Now it is your turn, let me know what you think about it and if it is possible, maybe even for gnome 2.24. best wishes Achim From rian@MIT.EDU Mon Jun 2 18:05:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561A87500F6 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:05:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 9 (firewall!), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [18.7.7.80] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ohi56HIRA3W for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9802F7501E0 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:05:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id m52I5Mvi014385 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.196] (c-67-188-177-250.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.177.250]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as rian@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id m52I55gB002291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: drag and drop not causing update_file_info to be called From: Rian Hunter To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:05:33 -0700 Message-Id: <1212429933.5131.11.camel@donutplains.hsd1.ca.comcast.net.> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:05:34 -0000 hi all i'm writing a nautilus extension that depends pretty heavily on managing emblems on certain files. i've noticed that the update_file_hook is called whenever any activity is done on the file system *except* for when a file is dragged from one folder to another in nautilus (i would expect that an update file info would be called on the file after it has moved). this makes it impossible for my extension to detect when a file moved to another location through drag and drop and thus remove or add an emblem as necessary. i did figure out a workaround. connecting a callback to the "changed" signal of the NautilusFileInfo object. now my extension can notified when the file changes location, unfortunately i see no easy way to reset the information on the file. if i call invalidate_file_info on the file from the changed callback it ends up in a terrible infinite loop. if there was a way that i could remove an emblem without having to invalidate the file info that would solve my problem. can anyone comment on this? i'm currently not on this list so please cc me. thanks!! rian From mjc@avtechpulse.com Mon Jun 2 18:22:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56697501B5 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:22:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.097 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.704, BAYES_50=0.001, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:41:1:52:M1408,N,N,S,N,W6:.:?:?], (link: unknown-1448), [64.26.155.62] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tuLb2Tkeq3TK for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com (grenfell.avtechpulse.com [64.26.155.62]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A307500DA for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:22:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341A6E0014; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:22:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at avtechpulse.com Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server2.domain.avtechpulse.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvvoGABp-b0I; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (dogbert.domain.avtechpulse.com [192.168.0.23]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5296E0009; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48443A3E.2010709@avtechpulse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:21:50 -0400 From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" Organization: Avtech Electrosystems Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vitezslav Kotrla Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:22:32 -0000 > It looks like ufraw creates empty JPEG file when conversion begins and > it takes some time while data are finally written. In the meantime > nautilus fails to thumbnail an empty file, so generic image filetype > icon is assigned. > > Also enfuse works this way - it creates empty JPEG file first and starts > writing output data later (20 seconds during my simple test, but of > course even later depending on the workload). > > I wonder what is the proper solution? Sounds like a bug... Check out libnautilus-private/nautilus-thumbnails.c. Perhaps you could compile it with DEBUG_THUMBNAILS set and see what debugging messages occur. Nautilus is supposed to check the file mtime and delay thumbnailing if the mtime is within the last 3 seconds (THUMBNAIL_CREATION_DELAY_SECS). It should also notice if the file mtime has changed, and re-thumbnail in that case. Does gThumb 2.10.8 properly thumbnail your images if you have gthumb open viewing that folder while the file is changing? - Mike From mpt@myrealbox.com Mon Jun 2 21:04:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F22D750117 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:04:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7539 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [216.118.97.161] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ckGUdM9bdeLf for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leucothea.site5.com (leucothea.site5.com [216.118.97.161]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832BD750315 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yttrium.canonical.com ([91.189.88.12] helo=[10.45.43.97]) by leucothea.site5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K3HBp-0005GZ-Is; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:03:37 -0400 Message-ID: <48446026.4010402@myrealbox.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:03:34 +0100 From: Matthew Paul Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Nautilus Space Mock-up References: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> In-Reply-To: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leucothea.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - myrealbox.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:04:46 -0000 Achim Frase wrote on 02/06/08 13:30: >... > http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/82416-nautilus-tabs-space.png >... > To my mind, the bars should show how big the files are, in relation to > the folder size. >... That's is an interesting idea. It's another way of presenting size. So how about making it part of the "Size" column, instead of a separate column? _____________________ |____Size_____________| | 2.6 KB # | | 5.7 KB ## | | 3.6 KB # | | 27.9 KB ######### | : : The bars wouldn't be shown by default. But if you widened the Size column enough that there was room to spare, they would appear next to the numeric size. That way you wouldn't need to add an extra column with an extra menu item. And you wouldn't need to introduce an unfamiliar term (it's not obvious what "Space" means, if it doesn't mean space free on disk). Cheers -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ From vitko@post.cz Mon Jun 2 21:31:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1B8750089 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:31:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 468 hrs), (distance 20, link: ethernet/modem), [77.75.72.44] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h5Urh9O9sPeZ for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:31:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxl.seznam.cz (mxl.seznam.cz [77.75.72.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99B7750375 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (195.22.54.146.adsl.nextra.cz [195.22.54.146]) by email-relay1.go.seznam.cz (Seznam SMTPD 1.0.41@13276) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:31:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency From: Vitezslav Kotrla To: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" In-Reply-To: <48443A3E.2010709@avtechpulse.com> References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <48443A3E.2010709@avtechpulse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:31:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1212442267.4512.24.camel@dido.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Smtpd: 1.0.41@13276 X-Seznam-User: vitko@post.cz X-QM-Mark: email-qm2<124019792> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:31:22 -0000 Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak píše v Po 02. 06. 2008 v 20:21 +0200: > Sounds like a bug... ... > Nautilus is supposed to check the file mtime and delay thumbnailing if > the mtime is within the last 3 seconds (THUMBNAIL_CREATION_DELAY_SECS). > > It should also notice if the file mtime has changed, and re-thumbnail in > that case. > > Does gThumb 2.10.8 properly thumbnail your images if you have gthumb > open viewing that folder while the file is changing? When I let both nautilus and gthumb 2.10.8 show the same folder, I can see that gthumb starts thumbnailing as soon as data are being written to the file. Nautilus is a bit late - it starts showing non zero filesize not util gthumb has already finished thumbnailing, but then at last nautilus itself starts re-thumbnailing the watched file (sorry for my lame English). When I close gthumb and leave only nautilus open, file gets only generic icon, not thumbnail. To check for mtime I issued 'watch -n 1 ls -l --full-time', I can see mtime progressively changing when data is being written. Vit From mpt@myrealbox.com Mon Jun 2 21:38:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF157500B8; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:38:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.307 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 7544 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [216.118.97.161] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbfbcbMSHdJd; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:38:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leucothea.site5.com (leucothea.site5.com [216.118.97.161]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77FE7500F4; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:38:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yttrium.canonical.com ([91.189.88.12] helo=[10.45.43.97]) by leucothea.site5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K3Hj9-000099-Tv; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: <48446839.5090000@myrealbox.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:38:01 +0100 From: Matthew Paul Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Nautilus Drag & Drop Behaviour References: <20080523102433.GA11313@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1211953328.24469.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1211953328.24469.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leucothea.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - myrealbox.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: usability@gnome.org, nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:38:36 -0000 ritz wrote on 28/05/08 06:42: >... > checking if the files to be moved are on the same fs is broken in > nautilus. nautilus uses check_same_fs[1], which checks for fs type[2] > and if they match moves them. > > This bug manifest itself when user is moving from say, one nfs share > to another. file would be moved, rather than copied. >... Is that bug reported in Bugzilla? I don't find it with a search for "check_same_fs". Cheers -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ From khadgaray@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 02:07:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CC67500A5 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:07:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.501 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 2395 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ovFlFxxNPj8q for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F068B750129 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1191649rvb.3 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.164.1 with SMTP id m1mr5426843rve.69.1212458816728; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?123.236.164.46? ( [123.236.164.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm6612682rvf.8.2008.06.02.19.06.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Nautilus Drag & Drop Behaviour From: ritz To: Matthew Paul Thomas In-Reply-To: <48446839.5090000@myrealbox.com> References: <20080523102433.GA11313@jroger.in-berlin.de> <1211953328.24469.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48446839.5090000@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:36:28 +0530 Message-Id: <1212458788.20230.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: usability@gnome.org, nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:07:29 -0000 Hello On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 22:38 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > ritz wrote on 28/05/08 06:42: > >... > > checking if the files to be moved are on the same fs is broken in > > nautilus. nautilus uses check_same_fs[1], which checks for fs type[2] > > and if they match moves them. > > > > This bug manifest itself when user is moving from say, one nfs share > > to another. file would be moved, rather than copied. > >... > > Is that bug reported in Bugzilla? I don't find it with a search for > "check_same_fs". I hit upon this, when investigating a different bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505690 > > Cheers > -- > Matthew Paul Thomas > http://mpt.net.nz/ -- Ritesh Khadgaray Ph: +919970164885 Desktop LinuX N Stuff, RHCE Software Maintenance Engineer, Pune, Red Hat ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. From luca.cappelletti@gmail.com Tue Jun 3 08:40:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279B0750171 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:40:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Chudobiak" Organization: Avtech Electrosystems Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vitezslav Kotrla Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <48443A3E.2010709@avtechpulse.com> <1212442267.4512.24.camel@dido.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1212442267.4512.24.camel@dido.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:43:53 -0000 Vitezslav Kotrla wrote: > When I let both nautilus and gthumb 2.10.8 show the same folder, I can > see that gthumb starts thumbnailing as soon as data are being written to > the file. Nautilus is a bit late - it starts showing non zero filesize > not util gthumb has already finished thumbnailing, but then at last > nautilus itself starts re-thumbnailing the watched file (sorry for my > lame English). > > When I close gthumb and leave only nautilus open, file gets only generic > icon, not thumbnail. > > To check for mtime I issued 'watch -n 1 ls -l --full-time', I can see > mtime progressively changing when data is being written. OK, gthumb is working correctly and Nautilus is not. Perhaps Nautilus is not re-reading the file mtime after it re-schedules thumbnailing (during THUMBNAIL_CREATION_DELAY_SECS). Please file a bug report at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=nautilus, under the "Thumbnails" component. Please report what version of Nautilus you are using. A link to a sample image and a typical dcraw command (or some other "slow" command) should also be reported, to help reproduce the problem. - Mike From vitko@post.cz Wed Jun 4 18:51:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8D37502B9 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:51:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 487 hrs), (distance 20, link: ethernet/modem), [77.75.72.44] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6+2IBGfMAkTQ for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:51:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxl.seznam.cz (mxl.seznam.cz [77.75.72.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EF775026F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:51:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (onetime.noveradsl.cz [195.22.54.146]) by email-relay1.go.seznam.cz (Seznam SMTPD 1.0.41@13276) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:51:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency From: Vitezslav Kotrla To: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" In-Reply-To: <484582C2.4030405@avtechpulse.com> References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <48443A3E.2010709@avtechpulse.com> <1212442267.4512.24.camel@dido.localdomain> <484582C2.4030405@avtechpulse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:51:07 +0200 Message-Id: <1212605467.4306.3.camel@dido.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Smtpd: 1.0.41@13276 X-Seznam-User: vitko@post.cz X-QM-Mark: email-qm5<89788234> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:51:24 -0000 > Perhaps Nautilus is not re-reading the file mtime after it re-schedules > thumbnailing (during THUMBNAIL_CREATION_DELAY_SECS). > > Please file a bug report at > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=nautilus, under the > "Thumbnails" component. Please report what version of Nautilus you are > using. > > A link to a sample image and a typical dcraw command (or some other > "slow" command) should also be reported, to help reproduce the problem. Thanks, done. Please see bug #536673[1]. Vit ----- [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536673 From fcrozat@mandriva.com Thu Jun 5 07:39:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96AA750060; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:39:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 815 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.150.183] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P0v7rC3V3yGR; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mandriva.com (mx1.mandriva.com [212.85.150.183]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D06750068; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mx1.mandriva.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B8A931F007E; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from office.mandriva.com (office-abk.mandriva.com [84.55.162.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "office.mandrakesoft.com", Issuer "smtp.mandrakesoft.com" (not verified)) by mx1.mandriva.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494481F0003; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:38:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.216] (trinidad.mandriva.com [192.168.100.216]) by office.mandriva.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AFB7EE2; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: missing SVN tag on 2.22.3 release From: Frederic Crozat To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Mandriva Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:38:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1212651534.14458.45.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0-4mdv2008.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GNOME 2 release team X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:39:06 -0000 Hi guys, it appears nautilus 2.22.3 was not tagged on SVN when it was released. Could a maintainer fix this ? Thanks you in advance. -- Frederic Crozat Mandriva From dcr@nextw3.com Thu Jun 5 14:15:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552F9750146 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Score: 2.649 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_HOST_EQ_PACBELL_D=1.67, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (NAT!) (up: 76 hrs), (distance 11, link: (Google/AOL)), [71.137.108.132] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SwdNstgS6mUg for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nextw3.homeip.net (ppp-71-137-108-132.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [71.137.108.132]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8268275007E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nextw3.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F951C085 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Nautilus split side pane patch From: Daren Robbins To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-tvzjpndklm9EtXv9PJGo" Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:15:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1212675312.7491.6.camel@Macabre> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:15:25 -0000 --=-tvzjpndklm9EtXv9PJGo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here is a patch to provide a split side pane, for anyone who might be interested: http://www.nextw3.com/programming/2.22.4-splitsidepane-patch This is based on the (currently 2.22.4) http://svn.gnome.org/svn/nautilus/branches/gnome-2-22/ source. FYI, the bottom splitter panel should default to collapsed, and you'll need to drag it up or click on it to expand it. FYI2, this patch will also reverse the order of the items in the Places sidebar so bookmarks are at the top and built-in places at the bottom. Screen shot: http://www.nextw3.com/programming/Nautilus-SplitSidebar.png On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 00:22 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > Interesting idea, although right now I'd personally like to see us > trying to simplify the sidebar rather than making it any more > complex :) (Step 0: find out how many of the existing sidebar views > people *really* use... figure out if the tree view really still > useful since the Mac-style list view was introduced a while ago... > etc...) My 2c is that the right-pane tree gets a bit unwieldy after expanding more than a few nodes. I use it all the time, but I also find myself swapping between "Places" and "Tree" quite frequently as the former is my preference but the latter is useful to get into the general vicinity of a deeply buried file. I do see how the split sidebar adds to interface clutter, though - mostly I think due to the second bulky sidebar title box... As a side note, I imagine some interesting uses for this real estate in the way of sidebar provider extensions (e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NautilusSidebarExtensions) become more compelling if they don't require giving up the "main" ones. --=-tvzjpndklm9EtXv9PJGo Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a patch to provide a split side pane, for anyone who might be interested: http://www.nextw3.com/programming/2.22.4-splitsidepane-patch

This is based on the (currently 2.22.4) http://svn.gnome.org/svn/nautilus/branches/gnome-2-22/ source.

FYI, the bottom splitter panel should default to collapsed, and you'll need to drag it up or click on it to expand it.

FYI2, this patch will also reverse the order of the items in the Places sidebar so bookmarks are at the top and built-in places at the bottom.

Screen shot: http://www.nextw3.com/programming/Nautilus-SplitSidebar.png

On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 00:22 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: 
Interesting idea, although right now I'd personally like to see us  
trying to simplify the sidebar rather than making it any more  
complex :)  (Step 0: find out how many of the existing sidebar views  
people *really* use...  figure out if the tree view really still  
useful since the Mac-style list view was introduced a while ago...  
etc...)

My 2c is that the right-pane tree gets a bit unwieldy after expanding more than a few nodes. I use it all the time, but I also find myself swapping between "Places" and "Tree" quite frequently as the former is my preference but the latter is useful to get into the general vicinity of a deeply buried file. I do see how the split sidebar adds to interface clutter, though - mostly I think due to the second bulky sidebar title box...

As a side note, I imagine some interesting uses for this real estate in the way of sidebar provider extensions (e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NautilusSidebarExtensions) become more compelling if they don't require giving up the "main" ones. --=-tvzjpndklm9EtXv9PJGo-- From cornflake.pirate@gmail.com Thu Jun 5 14:26:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE467505A3 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:26:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 8798 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.142.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQA0eO-LF7on for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:26:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCB3750434 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b6so202306tic.1 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.3.8 with SMTP id 8mr416326tic.11.1212675850614; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.103.17 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:24:09 +1000 From: "Jared Moore" Sender: cornflake.pirate@gmail.com To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: multivew branch status & UI decisions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: bd5f383b434beda3 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:26:18 -0000 Hi all, I have been making progress in my multiview (i.e. tabs) development branch [1]. If you have a look at the whiteboard on that page you will see a brief status overview (TODO, DONE, etc). I'd like to bring up the following UI design decisions that need to be made. By the way if these descriptions don't make sense to anybody except me then I apologise :) (1) Open tab on middle click button press or button release? The behaviour in Epiphany is rather inconsistent: history window middle click will activate on button press, "Home" button in toolbar will activate on middle click (i.e. press and release without leaving the button), and "Bookmarks" menu entries will activate on button release (regardless of where you pressed). The current behaviour in my Nautilus branch is to open a tab on button press. I should probably change this to button release, since that is generally the standard for most UIs (although I can't see anything specific in the HIG). What are people's thoughts about this? If button release is preferred then I guess a bug should be filed against the Epiphany history view. (2) Labels for menu items in "Tabs" menu There are really 2 main options for this - either a (semi)-full path like in gnome-terminal (e.g. "~/Pictures/2006/Beach holiday") or just the current folder (e.g. "Beach holiday"). I am leaning towards the former since it is a bit more informative, although the latter is obviously simpler ( and easier to implement ^.^ ). Currently the latter is implemented because I'm lazy. Thoughts? (3) Open tab by middle clicking on folder in main view Currently in Christian's branch this is a double-middle-click, which is inconsistent - to me this operation seems analogous to middle-clicking a hyperlink in Epiphany. I'd like to change this but first I'd like to check what other people think before I blatantly change the UI decision that Christian made :) Cheers, Jared [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~cornflake-pirate/nautilus/multiview-jm From luca.cappelletti@gmail.com Thu Jun 5 16:23:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220C750088 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:23:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 3020 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.238] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wJ7e1IQYn6kM for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:22:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36DF750118 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so726285rvb.3 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.136.5 with SMTP id j5mr1059907rvd.0.1212682975432; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.171.13 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:22:55 +0200 From: "Luca Cappelletti" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-Reply-To: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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(up: 8120 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GNTwIeukSSDL for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:37:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C9F7500AD for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:37:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so332587ywh.63 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.160.6 with SMTP id m6mr628302wfo.162.1212683842798; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.77.5 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4594288b0806050937v70faab7agf3b6a6f1a3484a17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 02:37:22 +1000 From: "Jared Moore" Sender: cornflake.pirate@gmail.com To: "Luca Cappelletti" Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0707ae2177bc1df0 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:37:30 -0000 Hi Luca, Thanks for the idea, I didn't think of that! Actually, I just checked, and if I understand you correctly then it seems like that's already implemented. I could be wrong but I think maybe it's part of GtkNotebook - try dragging anything random onto a tab in any random program (e.g. gnome-appearance-properties) and you'll see that it does the right thing. :) Cheers, Jared 2008/6/6 Luca Cappelletti : > > I think an interesting idea to evaluate is to provide "spring folder" like > capability through tabs to let users fly over tabs during a drag and drop > action. > > :) > > Luca > > From vuntz@gnome.org Fri Jun 6 18:21:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6407509B7 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:18:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.426 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.173, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GLI4gL2gHGEh for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:18:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.228.182.88]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E50331346 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:33:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D7E8D1126E7; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:33:27 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: [PATCH] Potentially huge leak because of the usage of the status bar Message-ID: <20080606113327.GT27426@vuntz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WRT3RXLOp/bBMgTI" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:21:43 -0000 --WRT3RXLOp/bBMgTI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Due to the way we use the status bar, we always push messages to the status bar stack and nearly never pop the messages. So the stack is growing, and growing, and growing. Which can be bad :-) I've put a patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536968 Attaching the patch to the mail for convenience. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas presss. --WRT3RXLOp/bBMgTI Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="nautilus-leak.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Index: src/nautilus-window.c =================================================================== --- src/nautilus-window.c (rvision 14232) +++ src/nautilus-window.c (copie de travail) @@ -201,27 +201,16 @@ nautilus_window_ui_update (NautilusWindo gtk_ui_manager_ensure_update (window->details->ui_manager); } -static gboolean -nautilus_window_clear_status (gpointer callback_data) -{ - NautilusWindow *window; - - window = NAUTILUS_WINDOW (callback_data); - - gtk_statusbar_pop (GTK_STATUSBAR (window->details->statusbar), 0); /* clear any previous message, underflow is allowed */ - - return FALSE; -} - void nautilus_window_set_status (NautilusWindow *window, const char *text) { g_return_if_fail (NAUTILUS_IS_WINDOW (window)); + /* clear any previous message, underflow is allowed */ + gtk_statusbar_pop (GTK_STATUSBAR (window->details->statusbar), 0); + if (text != NULL && text[0] != '\0') { gtk_statusbar_push (GTK_STATUSBAR (window->details->statusbar), 0, text); - } else { - nautilus_window_clear_status (window); } } --WRT3RXLOp/bBMgTI-- From gilles.dartiguelongue@esiee.org Sat Jun 7 03:27:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DAA752B35 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:27:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cyRYG50TiUiZ for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:26:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DFC330921 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:44:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 805BB10605; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F6B10605; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.30.0.26] (wiki.comwax.com [88.191.63.61]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dartigug) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D93E0E7D43; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Problem adding source file From: Gilles Dartiguelongue To: Gaolong , nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <506198.38849.qm@web92205.mail.cnh.yahoo.com> References: <506198.38849.qm@web92205.mail.cnh.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5HYStPQcLqNVGrRRYo20" Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:43:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1212749034.5293.5.camel@woix.comwax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:27:08 -0000 --=-5HYStPQcLqNVGrRRYo20 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your problem is a result of misusing the build system of nautilus. Nautilus build system uses autoconf and automake. autoconf is the tool used to generate configure and automake is used to create Makefile.in. Thereafter, executing configure will create final Makefile files. This is all wrapped up in autogen.sh so when you checkout from svn you just have to run autogen.sh. It will run autotools with --enable-maintainer-mode by default. This is pratical for development because it allows you to change Makefile.am rules, type make and Makefile.in and Makefile will be regenerated. If you intend to submit a patch which adds files, please exclude from your diff files that are autogenerated such as Makefile.in and Makefile. --=20 Gilles Dartiguelongue --=-5HYStPQcLqNVGrRRYo20 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhJFOkACgkQ1fmVwcYIWAZ5AgCgxMkH6lqbnDKZ1rZDH2jKwB/k xU8Anj7nbOd48vJQh+YJXYNrhVjNe+mw =7lCQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5HYStPQcLqNVGrRRYo20-- From chpe@gnome.org Sat Jun 7 13:27:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA18575013F for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:27:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 753 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [80.237.132.50] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4RcmyvexqUcn for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:27:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wp043.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp043.webpack.hosteurope.de [80.237.132.50]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6EF750138 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:27:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd9e2fbbf.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.226.251.191] helo=[192.168.2.103]); authenticated by wp043.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM using esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) id 1K4yRy-0001Xs-2a; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:27:18 +0200 Subject: [patch] [bug 314120] should put the data on clipboard also as text and uri list targets From: Christian Persch To: nautilus-list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-sylW+VQmBiqDOuoXHoVL" Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:27:16 +0200 Message-Id: <1212845237.6382.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;chpe@gnome.org;1212845241;5a6d69b3; X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:27:57 -0000 --=-sylW+VQmBiqDOuoXHoVL Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi; attached patch for part of bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314120 puts the selection data on the clipboard not only in nautilus' internal x-special/gnome-copied-files format but also in the standard text formats and the text/uri-list format, for interoperability with other programmes. Ok to commit? Christian --=-sylW+VQmBiqDOuoXHoVL Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=P Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=P; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c (r=C3=A9vision 14231) +++ src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c (copie de travail) @@ -154,7 +154,6 @@ enum=20 static guint signals[LAST_SIGNAL]; =20 static GdkAtom copied_files_atom; -static GdkAtom utf8_string_atom; =20 static gboolean show_delete_command_auto_value; static gboolean confirm_trash_auto_value; @@ -270,7 +269,6 @@ enum { =20 static const GtkTargetEntry clipboard_targets[] =3D { { "x-special/gnome-copied-files", 0, GNOME_COPIED_FILES }, - { "UTF8_STRING", 0, UTF8_STRING } }; =20 /* forward declarations */ @@ -5484,28 +5482,29 @@ create_popup_menu (FMDirectoryView *view } =20 typedef struct { - GList *file_uris; + char **file_uris; + guint n_file_uris; gboolean cut; } ClipboardInfo; =20 static char * -convert_file_list_to_string (GList *files, +convert_file_list_to_string (ClipboardInfo *info, gboolean format_for_text, - gboolean cut) + gsize *len) { GString *uris; - GList *node; char *uri, *tmp; GFile *f; + guint i; =20 if (format_for_text) { uris =3D g_string_new (NULL); } else { - uris =3D g_string_new (cut ? "cut" : "copy"); + uris =3D g_string_new (info->cut ? "cut" : "copy"); } -=09 - for (node =3D files; node !=3D NULL; node =3D node->next) { - uri =3D node->data; + + for (i =3D 0; i < info->n_file_uris; ++i) { + uri =3D info->file_uris[i]; =09 if (format_for_text) { f =3D g_file_new_for_uri (uri); @@ -5520,7 +5519,7 @@ convert_file_list_to_string (GList *file } =20 /* skip newline for last element */ - if (node->next !=3D NULL) { + if (i + 1 < info->n_file_uris) { g_string_append_c (uris, '\n'); } } else { @@ -5529,6 +5528,7 @@ convert_file_list_to_string (GList *file } } =20 + *len =3D uris->len; return g_string_free (uris, FALSE); } =20 @@ -5536,48 +5536,57 @@ static void get_clipboard_callback (GtkClipboard *clipboard, GtkSelectionData *selection_data, guint info, - gpointer user_data_or_owner) + gpointer user_data) { - ClipboardInfo *clipboard_info =3D user_data_or_owner; - char *str; + ClipboardInfo *clipboard_info =3D user_data; =20 - str =3D convert_file_list_to_string (clipboard_info->file_uris, - info =3D=3D UTF8_STRING, - clipboard_info->cut); + if (gtk_targets_include_uri (&selection_data->target, 1)) { + gtk_selection_data_set_uris (selection_data, clipboard_inf= o->file_uris); + } else if (gtk_targets_include_text (&selection_data->target, 1)) = { + char *str; + gsize len; =20 + str =3D convert_file_list_to_string (clipboard_info, TRUE,= &len); + gtk_selection_data_set_text (selection_data, str, len); + g_free (str); + } else if (selection_data->target =3D=3D copied_files_atom) { + char *str; + gsize len; =20 - gtk_selection_data_set (selection_data, - selection_data->target, - 8, - str, - strlen (str)); -=09 - g_free (str); + str =3D convert_file_list_to_string (clipboard_info, FALSE= , &len); + gtk_selection_data_set (selection_data, copied_files_atom,= 8, str, len); + g_free (str); + } } =20 static void clear_clipboard_callback (GtkClipboard *clipboard, - gpointer user_data_or_owner) + gpointer user_data) { - ClipboardInfo *info =3D user_data_or_owner; -=09 - eel_g_list_free_deep (info->file_uris); + ClipboardInfo *info =3D user_data; =20 - g_free (info); + g_strfreev (info->file_uris); + g_slice_free (ClipboardInfo, info); } =20 -static GList * -convert_file_list_to_uri_list (GList *files) +static ClipboardInfo * +convert_file_list_to_uris (GList *files, + gboolean cut) { - GList *tmp =3D NULL; -=09 - while (files !=3D NULL) { - tmp =3D g_list_prepend (tmp, nautilus_file_get_uri (files->data)); + ClipboardInfo *info; + guint i; =20 - files =3D files->next; - } + info =3D g_slice_new (ClipboardInfo); + info->cut =3D cut; + info->n_file_uris =3D g_list_length (files); + info->file_uris =3D g_new (char *, info->n_file_uris + 1); =20 - return g_list_reverse (tmp); + for (i =3D 0; files !=3D NULL; files =3D files->next, ++i) + info->file_uris[i] =3D nautilus_file_get_uri (files->data)= ; + + info->file_uris[info->n_file_uris] =3D NULL; + + return info; } =09 static void @@ -5588,18 +5597,27 @@ copy_or_cut_files (FMDirectoryView *view int count; char *status_string, *name; ClipboardInfo *info; -=09 - info =3D g_new0 (ClipboardInfo, 1); - info->file_uris =3D convert_file_list_to_uri_list (clipboard_contents); - info->cut =3D cut; -=09 + GtkTargetList *target_list; + GtkTargetEntry *targets; + int n_targets; + + info =3D convert_file_list_to_uris (clipboard_contents, cut); + + target_list =3D gtk_target_list_new (clipboard_targets, G_N_ELEMEN= TS (clipboard_targets)); + gtk_target_list_add_uri_targets (target_list, 0); + gtk_target_list_add_text_targets (target_list, 0); + + targets =3D gtk_target_table_new_from_list (target_list, &n_target= s); + gtk_target_list_unref (target_list); + gtk_clipboard_set_with_data (nautilus_clipboard_get (GTK_WIDGET (view)), - clipboard_targets, G_N_ELEMENTS (clipboard_targets), + targets, n_targets, get_clipboard_callback, clear_clipboard_callback, info); + gtk_target_table_free (targets, n_targets); + nautilus_clipboard_monitor_emit_changed (); -=09 -=09 + count =3D g_list_length (clipboard_contents); if (count =3D=3D 1) { name =3D nautilus_file_get_display_name (clipboard_contents->data); @@ -6754,13 +6772,12 @@ can_paste_into_file (NautilusFile *file) =20 static void clipboard_targets_received (GtkClipboard *clipboard, - GtkSelectionData *selection_data, + GdkAtom *targets, + int n_targets, gpointer user_data) { FMDirectoryView *view; gboolean can_paste; - GdkAtom *targets; - int n_targets; int i; GList *selection; int count; @@ -6774,15 +6791,13 @@ clipboard_targets_received (GtkClipboard g_object_unref (view); return; } -=09 - if (gtk_selection_data_get_targets (selection_data, &targets, &n_targets)= ) { + + if (targets) { for (i=3D0; i < n_targets; i++) { if (targets[i] =3D=3D copied_files_atom) { can_paste =3D TRUE; } } - - g_free (targets); } =09 =09 @@ -7140,10 +7155,9 @@ real_update_paste_menu (FMDirectoryView=20 =20 /* Ask the clipboard */ g_object_ref (view); /* Need to keep the object alive until we get the re= ply */ - gtk_clipboard_request_contents (nautilus_clipboard_get (GTK_WIDGET (view)= ), - gdk_atom_intern ("TARGETS", FALSE), - clipboard_targets_received, - view); + gtk_clipboard_request_targets (nautilus_clipboard_get (GTK_WIDGET (view))= , + clipboard_targets_received, + view); } =20 static void @@ -9210,7 +9224,6 @@ fm_directory_view_class_init (FMDirector EEL_ASSIGN_MUST_OVERRIDE_SIGNAL (klass, fm_directory_view, get_zoom_level= ); =20 copied_files_atom =3D gdk_atom_intern ("x-special/gnome-copied-files", FA= LSE); - utf8_string_atom =3D gdk_atom_intern ("UTF8_STRING", FALSE); =20 g_object_class_install_property (G_OBJECT_CLASS (klass), PROP_WINDOW, Index: src/file-manager/fm-tree-view.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- src/file-manager/fm-tree-view.c (r=C3=A9vision 14231) +++ src/file-manager/fm-tree-view.c (copie de travail) @@ -113,12 +113,8 @@ typedef struct { static GdkAtom copied_files_atom; static gboolean show_delete_command_auto_value; =20 -enum { - GNOME_COPIED_FILES -}; - static const GtkTargetEntry clipboard_targets[] =3D { - { "x-special/gnome-copied-files", 0, GNOME_COPIED_FILES }, + { "x-special/gnome-copied-files", 0, 0 }, }; =20 static void fm_tree_view_iface_init (NautilusSidebarIface = *iface); @@ -819,46 +815,74 @@ fm_tree_view_create_folder_cb (GtkWidget g_free (parent_uri); } =20 +typedef struct { + char *file_uri; + gboolean cut; +} ClipboardInfo; + static void get_clipboard_callback (GtkClipboard *clipboard, GtkSelectionData *selection_data, - guint info, - gpointer user_data_or_owner) + guint info_, + gpointer user_data) { - char *str =3D user_data_or_owner; -=09 - gtk_selection_data_set (selection_data, - copied_files_atom, - 8, - str, - strlen (str)); + ClipboardInfo *info =3D user_data; + + + if (gtk_targets_include_uri (&selection_data->target, 1)) { + char *uris[2]; + + uris[0] =3D info->file_uri; + uris[1] =3D NULL; + gtk_selection_data_set_uris (selection_data, uris); + } else if (gtk_targets_include_text (&selection_data->target, 1)) = { + GFile *file; + char *str; + + file =3D g_file_new_for_uri (info->file_uri); + str =3D g_file_get_parse_name (file); + g_object_unref (file); + + if (str) { + gtk_selection_data_set_text (selection_data, str, = strlen (str)); + g_free (str); + } else { + gtk_selection_data_set_text (selection_data, + info->file_uri, strlen= (info->file_uri)); + } + } else if (selection_data->target =3D=3D copied_files_atom) { + char *str; + + str =3D g_strdup_printf ("%s\n%s", + info->cut ? "cut" : "copy", + info->file_uri); + gtk_selection_data_set (selection_data, copied_files_atom, + 8, str, strlen (str)); + g_free (str); + } } =20 static void clear_clipboard_callback (GtkClipboard *clipboard, - gpointer user_data_or_owner) + gpointer user_data) { - g_free (user_data_or_owner); + ClipboardInfo *info =3D user_data; + + g_free (info->file_uri); + g_slice_free (ClipboardInfo, info); } =20 -static char * -convert_file_to_string (NautilusFile *file, - gboolean cut) +static ClipboardInfo * +convert_file_to_uri (NautilusFile *file, + gboolean cut) { - GString *uris; - char *uri, *result; - - uris =3D g_string_new (cut ? "cut" : "copy"); -=09 - uri =3D nautilus_file_get_uri (file); - g_string_append_c (uris, '\n'); - g_string_append (uris, uri); - g_free (uri); + ClipboardInfo *info; =20 - result =3D uris->str; - g_string_free (uris, FALSE); + info =3D g_slice_new (ClipboardInfo); + info->cut =3D cut; + info->file_uri =3D nautilus_file_get_uri (file); =20 - return result; + return info; } =20 static void @@ -866,14 +890,26 @@ copy_or_cut_files (FMTreeView *view, gboolean cut) { char *status_string, *name; - char *clipboard_string; -=09 - clipboard_string =3D convert_file_to_string (view->details->popup_file, c= ut); + ClipboardInfo *info; + GtkTargetList *target_list; + GtkTargetEntry *targets; + int n_targets; + + info =3D convert_file_to_uri (view->details->popup_file, cut); =09 + target_list =3D gtk_target_list_new (clipboard_targets, G_N_ELEMEN= TS (clipboard_targets)); + gtk_target_list_add_uri_targets (target_list, 0); + gtk_target_list_add_text_targets (target_list, 0); + + targets =3D gtk_target_table_new_from_list (target_list, &n_target= s); + gtk_target_list_unref (target_list); + gtk_clipboard_set_with_data (nautilus_clipboard_get (GTK_WIDGET (view->de= tails->tree_widget)), - clipboard_targets, G_N_ELEMENTS (clipboard_targets), + targets, n_targets, get_clipboard_callback, clear_clipboard_callback, - clipboard_string); + info); + gtk_target_table_free (targets, n_targets); + nautilus_clipboard_monitor_emit_changed (); =09 name =3D nautilus_file_get_display_name (view->details->popup_file); --=-sylW+VQmBiqDOuoXHoVL-- From cneumair@gnome.org Sat Jun 7 21:48:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F7B7501DE for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:48:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AGW82zJ8uPas for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FE275014D for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 7192 invoked by uid 89); 7 Jun 2008 23:44:37 +0200 Received: from p5496be5b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.190.91) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2008 23:44:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Potentially huge leak because of the usage of the status bar From: Christian Neumair To: Vincent Untz In-Reply-To: <20080606113327.GT27426@vuntz.net> References: <20080606113327.GT27426@vuntz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:48:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1212875295.6725.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:48:28 -0000 Dear Vincent, Am Freitag, den 06.06.2008, 13:33 +0200 schrieb Vincent Untz: > Due to the way we use the status bar, we always push messages to the > status bar stack and nearly never pop the messages. So the stack is > growing, and growing, and growing. Which can be bad :-) Good catch! Please commit the patch to trunk and to the GNOME 2.22 branch. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From cneumair@gnome.org Sat Jun 7 22:19:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05F37501E0 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:19:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PsYpMUe92Qv8 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:19:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825B0750140 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 45898 invoked by uid 89); 8 Jun 2008 00:15:23 +0200 Received: from p5496be5b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.190.91) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 00:15:23 +0200 Subject: Re: missing SVN tag on 2.22.3 release From: Christian Neumair To: Frederic Crozat In-Reply-To: <1212651534.14458.45.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> References: <1212651534.14458.45.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:19:02 +0200 Message-Id: <1212877142.7977.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GNOME 2 release team , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:19:12 -0000 Dear Frederic, Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2008, 09:38 +0200 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > it appears nautilus 2.22.3 was not tagged on SVN when it was released. > > Could a maintainer fix this ? Thanks, I just fixed it. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From gpoo@gnome.org Sun Jun 8 05:56:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAD3750118 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:56:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.956 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.956 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.643] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 743 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [146.83.195.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Js9OEdVcC-2J for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.ubiobio.cl (atlas.dci.ubiobio.cl [146.83.195.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759E5750115 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:56:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by forward.ubiobio.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A3F400E0D for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:56:11 -0400 (CLT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ubiobio.cl Received: from pegasus.dci.ubiobio.cl ([146.83.195.11]) by localhost (antivirus.dci.ubiobio.cl [146.83.195.21]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHyU7Ai5XV+F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:56:07 -0400 (CLT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pc-60-108-120-200.cm.vtr.net [200.120.108.60]) by pegasus.dci.ubiobio.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CC9A30E4 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:56:06 -0400 (CLT) Subject: [PATCH][Bug 508878] Fixes submenus for extensions From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Po=F3-Caama=F1o?= To: nautilus-list Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-74u27dGtizyOktozgWRM" Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:55:54 -0400 Message-Id: <1212904554.14833.22.camel@pendragon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:56:22 -0000 --=-74u27dGtizyOktozgWRM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-RtATeZ+cJ7GhQvYN2FWj" --=-RtATeZ+cJ7GhQvYN2FWj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attached a patch that fixes the support for submenus in Nautilus Extensions. Without the patch the situation is: * It is possible to create submenus, but no action is activated. They are shown only when at least one file/folder is selected. * It is not possible to create submenus when the menu is invoked on the background of the folder. This patch fixes this two issues and also makes happy to Python developers who now will see their submenus working properly in their extensions :-) It was filed under http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D508878 where you can find screenshots and a extension's test case to show the problem. The patch is against the stable release. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38b12e2495067c9c X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:52:36 -0000 Hi, Requesting patch review for bugs 338933 and 309510. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338933 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309510 Since my work on the multiview branch is now pretty much done, I'm wondering what would be the best way for me to help out with general maintenance. Cheers, Jared Moore From mpt@myrealbox.com Sun Jun 8 23:59:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51C4750078; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:59:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9008 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [216.118.97.161] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J3TC50olT+Tu; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:59:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leucothea.site5.com (leucothea.site5.com [216.118.97.161]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4263C7500B5; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:59:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yttrium.canonical.com ([91.189.88.12] helo=[10.45.43.97]) by leucothea.site5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5Un9-0003Bv-Vf; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:59:16 +0100 From: Matthew Paul Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> In-Reply-To: <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leucothea.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - myrealbox.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:59:32 -0000 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on 01/05/08 22:34: >... > It would be easy to let this drift into something complicated that > looked like a download manager, which would be ugly and cramped in the > usual case of presenting just one move or copy at a time. >... With that in mind, I've revised taking into account all your feedback. Kirk Bridger wrote on 02/05/08 14:56: >... > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Kirk Bridger wrote: >> >>> The only use case I can think of (because I've experienced it) is >>> using pause to prioritize specific copying. If we have multiple >>> things going over the wire, and suddenly I want one to be the only >>> thing going, to make it get there as fast as possible, I'd pause the >>> lower priority ones. >> >> Interesting. For that purpose, how about a "Pause All Others" button >> instead of a "Pause" button? That way if you wanted one task to be >> the only one going, instead of having to click a button for each of >> the *other* tasks, you'd click only one button in the section for >> *that* task. >> >> (If Nautilus included such a button, probably it would be in the >> expandable section, since it would be needed infrequently.) >... > I agree it should not be visible by default - it is not the typical > flow of things. I might reword the command to something less indirect > and more direct: "click here to affect everything else" might better > be worded as "do this one first" for example. When I click something, > the associated "thing" should be the recipient of the action, not > everything else. That way when I choose something I don't have to do > reverse math (like playing minefield almost). I've added a "Do First" button. > Could we use some kind of metaphor like stat in a medical sense, or > courier shipping options (next day versus 3-5 business days), or some > other mental model to make it clear what this is doing? Just throwing > early-morning ideas out there. Interesting idea. I considered labelling it "Express" (which is sometimes used as a verb), but I think that might be a litle too weird. (I'd be glad to see any test results demonstrating that it isn't, or even that it's less weird than "Do First".) Liam R E Quin wrote on 02/05/08 18:31: > > On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 22:34 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Kirk Bridger wrote: >>> >>> The only use case I can think of (because I've experienced it) is >>> using pause to prioritize specific copying. > > Or de-prioritize -- I'm copying over the network and it's using all > my bandwidth, and now the phone rings and I need to check my bank > account, or maybe I need to take a VoIP call... the "pause" > button on a Web page download (is that epiphany or firefox? I forget) > is a good example. "Pause" could address your use case, if you paused *all* network-bound tasks; a "Pause All" button would be better. Similarly, "Pause" would address the do-this-one-first use case, but only if you paused *all* other tasks; a "Do First" button would be better. I'd really like to keep the interface to only two buttons per task -- Stop, and one other. Given that constraint, I think I'd rather address one of those use cases well, rather than both of them poorly. I'm open to being persuaded otherwise, though. To those people who responded on the wiki page, I've replied on the wiki page. Thanks -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ From shaunm@gnome.org Mon Jun 9 02:51:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D327750112; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:51:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:51:1:56:M1460, S, T:.:?:?] (up: 11702 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [66.111.4.25] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M6Ep8xjB-F3V; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5E37500E5; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CED112535; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:51:20 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: j76hBQ9dw2SpLUideQHPyVwgv9wXit4WWLdsI+5Rh1Wn 1212979879 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-133-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.212.133.244]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B546B88F; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign From: Shaun McCance To: Matthew Paul Thomas In-Reply-To: <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:51:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1212979878.11468.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.21.3 (2.21.3-4.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:51:29 -0000 On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 00:59 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on 01/05/08 22:34: > >... > > It would be easy to let this drift into something complicated that > > looked like a download manager, which would be ugly and cramped in the > > usual case of presenting just one move or copy at a time. > >... > > With that in mind, I've revised > taking into account all > your feedback. Just one nitpick from me. You say on that page: The button to the right of (and vertically centered with) the progress bar should read “Cancel” if the task is still in its pre-flighting stage, or “Stop” if the task has begun making changes on disk. I know we haven't addressed Cancel/Stop yet for the terminology guidelines (and I know I haven't been doing them much lately), but the difference between Cancel and Stop (as I'll propose it anyway) is that Cancel denotes something that can be backed out of completely. With moving or copying a single file, the data is copied into the new file without the original being affected at all. If you're moving the file, the original should be unlinked only after the new file is completely written. If you cancel the operation, the new file can (and, I think, should) be deleted, leaving the original still in place. Now, with a multiple-file move or copy, this isn't the case. Files are copied one-by-one. So even if no particular file is left in both places, you're left in a sort of weird state of files in both places. So that needs to be Stop. -- Shaun From xavier.bestel@free.fr Mon Jun 9 08:43:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8367501E5; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:43:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.713 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.713 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.603, BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (NAT!) (firewall!) (up: 1960 hrs), (distance 18, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [80.12.242.145] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VUeX787KpDyT; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:42:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A134750176; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:42:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07CC7A002DCD; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:42:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from awak.dyndns.org (AGrenoble-152-1-63-7.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.201.86.7]) by mwinf2b13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EADBFA002DC3; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:42:50 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080609084250962.EADBFA002DC3@mwinf2b13.orange.fr Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=[137.202.253.177] ident=stunnel4) by awak.dyndns.org with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1K5cxz-0007IO-00; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:43:03 +0200 Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign From: Xavier Bestel To: Matthew Paul Thomas In-Reply-To: <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:42:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1213000961.20459.3.camel@skunk.anacadf.mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-40.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:43:04 -0000 On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 00:59 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on 01/05/08 22:34: > >... > > It would be easy to let this drift into something complicated that > > looked like a download manager, which would be ugly and cramped in the > > usual case of presenting just one move or copy at a time. > >... > > With that in mind, I've revised > taking into account all > your feedback. Just a nitpick: "Pause" doesn't seem like a very bright concept to me. What do you want to achieve with such a button ? If you just want to prioritize your downloads, how about a "Wait" button, which would pause the download until the other ones are finished ? From bogdanb@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 10:38:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26777500E9 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:38:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 9772 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.146.180] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUNc4MK6y8-D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:38:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A023475007F for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j40so1887825wah.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vHyY6jXW+oMjLsbwZ7QyT2dUPD5EMGlXe4nZaPQ6hvQ=; b=PDtpuEMRQcvH6BP0j3u+d1YHCU4mKJh82OxSoafycpMpqVJvR4OVnI+Op5OWi6dBOw Bvu4x+RNcikx7/fojq46I1m3eRUd74FeJU/3Lbx2UH3vrAeN4VW4MRsMR2wyK44/FZzr MV+QWqj5/JwiHDiSywYD6k/8lu8Lx9pqUo+gE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=T/lg554RBD5HheYBGrIdwe99jqgbjz6x5vp7nvEZRRT5sWDzOsaniQplbczxM7Ujqd axzY7Mpr/kvGVWgaMypqYvgm9juU/uhBa+38orIlg1v0qOAVM7dnzuHD4FVj4w+AfZmt vAaWTphyutBk3g8sxbsK11yZ6lEW2wCiQvKRY= Received: by 10.115.76.1 with SMTP id d1mr2981762wal.207.1213007908048; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.113.18 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <77ee53dc0806090338n3405947n598a1bca0dad962b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:38:27 +0200 From: "Bogdan Butnaru" To: "Xavier Bestel" Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign In-Reply-To: <1213000961.20459.3.camel@skunk.anacadf.mentorg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> <1213000961.20459.3.camel@skunk.anacadf.mentorg.com> Cc: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:38:35 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Xavier Bestel wrot= e: > Just a nitpick: "Pause" doesn't seem like a very bright concept to me. > What do you want to achieve with such a button ? > If you just want to prioritize your downloads, how about a "Wait" > button, which would pause the download until the other ones are > finished ? That doesn't sound bad at all. It might be good to be even more verbose, like "Wait for other operations" or "Finish others first". Maybe even "Pause until others are done", heh. On the other hand, I do sometimes want to just pause a file operation, even if no other is in progress; for example, if I start a big copy-op from/to a remote drive, I might want to pause it, do something that needs the bandwidth (e.g., show somebody some photos, etc.) and then resume the operation. In this case, stopping it and restarting can be much harder. -- Bogdan Butnaru =97 bogdanb@gmail.com From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Mon Jun 9 10:47:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99680750176; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.797 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.802, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zeGEjPffcTwK; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFDF750173; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m59Al5d6008477; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:07 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2600B01Z7ZUJ00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from calmac.tolka.local ([213.202.187.238]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K2600J3QZABKE50@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:47:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:46:58 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign In-reply-to: <1212979878.11468.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Shaun McCance Message-id: <836F7D59-CA5B-4906-B1B5-1AA8AB290072@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> <1212979878.11468.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Cc: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:47:24 -0000 On 9 Jun 2008, at 03:51, Shaun McCance wrote: > I know we haven't addressed Cancel/Stop yet for the terminology > guidelines (and I know I haven't been doing them much lately), > but the difference between Cancel and Stop (as I'll propose it > anyway) is that Cancel denotes something that can be backed out > of completely. This is also what the HIG says: =09=95 Label the button Cancel if the whole operation can be cleanly = =20 abandoned with no side effects, leaving the system in the state it wa= s =20 in prior to the operation beginning. Terminate the command immediatel= y =20 when the user presses this button. =09=95 Label the button Stop if the command can be interrupted, but i= ts =20 effects up to that point cannot (or should not) be reversed. When the= =20 user presses this button, open an alert box that warns of the =20 potential side effects of stopping the command. The alert box should = =20 have only two buttons: one for continuing the command's processing, = =20 and one for immediately terminating it. Cheeri, Calum. --=20 CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsyste= ms From mrooney@gmail.com Mon Jun 2 00:24:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18175011C for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:24:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_OBFUMONEY2=1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:41:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=x tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:44:1:60:M1460,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N:!:?:?], (link: ethernet/modem), [213.4.149.242] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4kOm7GdbU-d for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:41:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (outmailhost.telefonica.net [213.4.149.242]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA287750177 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (88.17.82.226) by ctsmtpout4.frontal.correo (7.2.056.6) (authenticated as penosoplaneta$telefonica.net) id 48368D3600214273 for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:41:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4843C027.3010901@telefonica.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:40:55 +0100 From: Jose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: New feature Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020708070201090408060007" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:42:30 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:41:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020708070201090408060007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, great job. Sorry for my english. I'm spanish and use Ubuntu. I like Nautilus... but i have any problem. Look at screenshot. 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(up: 7602 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8pmGBxCpiN7o for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF3275020C for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so626555ywh.63 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2+ym3jdDfPLBQXBVYleE89+KVDQJK95JsB/z9qpJCCo=; b=gOfO9tLOzj9KQpNVkp1g2+YjOdL1B9WvNTfA65gptsqI8AGD+V+zBdO4HO1+w6sK9pVWZvxLS4OxLOeFSh+hcjxEY9KRbCbHsbAj3SREaXuc5/ROY1OoAIznnJ7MPiXiEZb+roYmspnxEsR8af6L55lqwI1i7OKRcal0Ydx62cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cxfFqCRKcAB7UINbu8HMN4OKryqMzRdLHuwmIU8/1yvChtyxhoPbGqWHYxkcpYhZCoSrdTGDfi9/d+N8uaddgE3zGBbG+80vkCtyYqcs/EQk1ZKun2fbaXJeRuvcmWHcFzod6xOHFlXjyOTSTTdmswZ/oMXA/ohUJGZcGoF2Cls= Received: by 10.151.108.5 with SMTP id k5mr13498678ybm.165.1212497470730; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.83.6 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f4806ee0806030551y6e43bbeeu964a94f1c00cc44a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:51:10 -0400 From: "Mike Rooney" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Nautilus Space Mock-up In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> <48446026.4010402@myrealbox.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:42:29 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:51:41 -0000 2008/6/3 Luca Cappelletti : > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: >> >> Achim Frase wrote on 02/06/08 13:30: >> >... >> > >> > http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/82416-nautilus-tabs-space.png >> >... >> > To my mind, the bars should show how big the files are, in relation to >> > the folder size. >> >... >> >> That's is an interesting idea. >> >> It's another way of presenting size. So how about making it part of the >> "Size" column, instead of a separate column? >> _____________________ > > I don't think this mock up idea improve real usability providing relative > values feedback. > My users does not need to know a file folder relative weight distribution, > they need to know only how big is an object so that they know how to manage > relative to their real container (the disk). > The bar information does not provide a real value added if shows how big the > file is against the sum of it's folder container. > Who needs this and what they do with this value? > A part this opinion I think the graphical solution is real nice :) but seems > to me unusable. Well, I think it is nice. It allows you to instantly see what files are taking up the most space. Without this you would have to sort by size and then read file sizes. Bars like this save the user a lot of time and don't require sorting by that column to gain useful information from it. You say users need to identify large files, how is this not tremendously better for doing so? -- Mike Rooney mrooney@gmail.com From mrooney@gmail.com Sat Jun 7 00:56:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CC3751E5B for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:56:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fONDREPEKCia for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E9A752F6D for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 22:01:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so623573ywh.63 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:01:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vITlQba8ebb1m4Lw7d9slgFt40D7gKkdPubjbNaeYLQ=; b=EzEv6dBPwZ5gijcHlxjdCsFU/1Ji7taVwg1lNLUX5F5ei9lojS9IilwLTTpTHRY0Fe FH+dnaZj7rK5swFrm3innHLYjc7LmJXyOp1knsktMq18PNuK5ew7i4SZle9a3phtc6A9 4jvsb0oR5e15FztrvykgGEuabM4o3vFDE5Tis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ev3jGfV28PCr1OVoDcB3Vzb8SOXRFJ1KWDPS7uu2CibwRLYQuRBlIz2qVbxoITS4rr t7K8/LIVXrpxvAkVS9logyD24phGo6X3tZlBvAzt9n94yJQsszmzdd97oNbDoS5y3YLe IYcCGhj2+8SxLBrhVPSbuHDLBF2fbMXPoc9+g= Received: by 10.150.84.41 with SMTP id h41mr955391ybb.215.1212789681808; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.13 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f4806ee0806061501q66f7708dlcea3cb90cc2255ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:01:21 -0700 From: "Mike Rooney" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Potentially huge leak because of the usage of the status bar In-Reply-To: <20080606113327.GT27426@vuntz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080606113327.GT27426@vuntz.net> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:42:29 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:56:48 -0000 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > Due to the way we use the status bar, we always push messages to the > status bar stack and nearly never pop the messages. So the stack is > growing, and growing, and growing. Which can be bad :-) > > I've put a patch on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536968 Sounds good to fix, thanks! One question I have is, what is the point of always popping when setting the status message? Why have a stack if you only maintain the top message? Perhaps I am just misunderstanding something. Thanks, Mike From cornflake.pirate@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 11:48:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234E475026D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:48:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 9732 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.142.187] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bGwbmldOygRj for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:48:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681BE750261 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b6so648024tic.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=XFVstnKAZzyHOIIkqntNHoGIoyoM0t3QPCkBEdihnlE=; b=aa3zCH1kvOMqlbV20WoN655lwGSk9lRxsDtGGTbbKAuFj7ZTGep4ndxiTiQ9y+1LsJ WAXvAylPp4rsr2uV01mOrPSGdY9zigXESSpDPKi6rT8o6g5VdrrI9mzzghy/vOEGJluE 4/KHv0ekw4rBahRwO9iso9Sn8scV9EkS/To34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=MMJJbx1daM2b4s8L0j7B+JoQpO026ao0KNyfsc/th45O9vUZ8qkk9FFF8bbXwknFtT qj7CcOOJaAylbyo1O3m8ratNfoC8vPeMAu/RzNXHROOwViqICDlP6YgFITOSMwShh8Pn Ix7phMyuoQJdCFLvlAmjRPiXDAb9i4wAKwe0c= Received: by 10.110.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr787210tiw.6.1213012051902; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.68.16 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4594288b0806090447p71d032delea956e089b57aebf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:47:31 +1000 From: "Jared Moore" Sender: cornflake.pirate@gmail.com To: "ZTECH Solutions" Subject: Re: Two features that are missing In-Reply-To: <62377c940805280656p313a67fag1425a862c85be645@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <62377c940805280656p313a67fag1425a862c85be645@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6113bc5ff924cb8 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:48:37 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM, ZTECH Solutions wrote: > Hi Guys, > > These are two features that are missing from Nautilus. The Thunar File > Manager has them though! > > 1. Ability to open a terminal window within the folder that you are > currently viewing. This is a great feature and is very helpful. You don't > have to constantly type "cd folder_name", etc. etc. This is available in the nautilus open terminal extension. :) > > 2. When right-clicking on a file (i.e. mp3 file) one has the ability to > choose the program with which one prefers to open the file. The window that > opens thereafter provides a feature that allows the user determine if the > the selected program should become the default program for that type of > file. It is very annoying that Nautilus cannot do this. I always have to go > back to Thunar is order to accomplish this. > Can't you do this in the properties dialog, "Open With" tab? Cheers, Jared From mjc@avtechpulse.com Mon Jun 9 11:51:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0D475020A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.097 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.704, BAYES_50=0.001, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:41:1:52:M1408,N,N,S,N,W6:.:?:?], (link: unknown-1448), [64.26.155.62] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OGzmxRYOUPh3 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com (grenfell.avtechpulse.com [64.26.155.62]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27159750211 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409666E0015; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:51:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at avtechpulse.com Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server2.domain.avtechpulse.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P4JwHjwDCeoK; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (dogbert.domain.avtechpulse.com [192.168.0.23]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D846E000E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484D1922.80208@avtechpulse.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:50:58 -0400 From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" Organization: Avtech Electrosystems Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Rooney Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <4f4806ee0805311101n6ea897fbr50d84187f1fd4012@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4f4806ee0805311101n6ea897fbr50d84187f1fd4012@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:51:36 -0000 Mike Rooney wrote: > So, are you saying fixing this bug would speed up thumbnailing > (looking at directories of images) greatly in Nautilus? > > I just want to make sure I understand. No, bug 536673 says the files are not thumbnailed at all under some conditions. It is not a question of speed. Thumbnailing is a slow process (especially for raw files) since it is compute and io intensive (i.e., lots of matrix algebra + large files). If you know how to speed it up, please file a patch :-) - Mike From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Mon Jun 9 12:02:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E37750286 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:02:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.805 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.805 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.794, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xhjRSfTZfVAw for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:02:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2C750290 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:01:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m59C1o5O020599 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:01:50 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2700K011ZMO700@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:01:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from calmac.tolka.local ([213.202.187.238]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K27006JK2QN7BC0@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:01:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:01:34 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: Nautilus Space Mock-up In-reply-to: <4f4806ee0806030551y6e43bbeeu964a94f1c00cc44a@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Mike Rooney Message-id: <0F0B88C7-8B49-4375-B3A4-E150C71F4205@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> <48446026.4010402@myrealbox.com> <4f4806ee0806030551y6e43bbeeu964a94f1c00cc44a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:02:37 -0000 On 3 Jun 2008, at 13:51, Mike Rooney wrote: > Well, I think it is nice. It allows you to instantly see what files > are taking up the most space. Without this you would have to sort by > size and then read file sizes. Bars like this save the user a lot of > time and don't require sorting by that column to gain useful > information from it. > > You say users need to identify large files, how is this not > tremendously better for doing so? Perhaps it would be nicer if this was done with a baobab-like graphical view in the sidebar[1], showing the sizes of files in the current folder, optionally recursing into sub-folders. That way we could possibly do away with baobab application altogether[2], as all the same functionality would be available right in the file manager, which is where you want it really. Cheeri, Calum. [1] Or perhaps in the folder's Properties dialog, for spatial users-- although I don't really understand why you don't get any sort of sidebar in spatial mode. [2] That's not a criticism of baobab, I'd just like to see its functionality implemented where I need it, rather than in a separate application. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From ak-47@gmx.net Mon Jun 9 12:02:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1D57502CF for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:02:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 624 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 292boHXGuTER for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:02:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48856750254 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jun 2008 12:02:02 -0000 Received: from f053153199.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.1.2]) [78.53.153.199] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 09 Jun 2008 14:02:02 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3ezcyYVq37020T0Lcy3g19MJFbFTXF3deidWNRB gIZPq1331nBERx Subject: Re: New feature From: Andre Klapper To: Jose In-Reply-To: <4843C027.3010901@telefonica.net> References: <4843C027.3010901@telefonica.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:02:56 +0200 Message-Id: <1213012976.2857.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:02:59 -0000 Hi Jose, Am Montag, den 02.06.2008, 10:40 +0100 schrieb Jose: > Hi, great job. Sorry for my english. I'm spanish and use Ubuntu. I like > Nautilus... but i have any problem. Look at screenshot. Thanks. (Please avoid sending big attachments to mailing lists - I sometimes use a modem to get my mail.) You've sent a Windows Vista screenshot - what exactly is the Nautilus problem? Can you please describe it? Thanks, andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Mon Jun 9 12:09:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DB275004D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:09:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.814 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.814 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.785, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.24] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xQ-wYRVPkdWF for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:08:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com [192.18.6.24]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9F675023A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:08:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m59C8tOQ015249 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:08:55 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K27003012MC1Y00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:08:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from calmac.tolka.local ([213.202.187.238]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K2700DOZ32J3UE0@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:08:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:08:43 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: New feature In-reply-to: <1213012976.2857.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Andre Klapper Message-id: <717A07C1-5BF0-43B4-BC90-79D51E61E173@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4843C027.3010901@telefonica.net> <1213012976.2857.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, Jose X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:09:06 -0000 On 9 Jun 2008, at 13:02, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi Jose, > > Am Montag, den 02.06.2008, 10:40 +0100 schrieb Jose: >> Hi, great job. Sorry for my english. I'm spanish and use Ubuntu. I >> like >> Nautilus... but i have any problem. Look at screenshot. Thanks. > > (Please avoid sending big attachments to mailing lists - I sometimes > use > a modem to get my mail.) > You've sent a Windows Vista screenshot - what exactly is the Nautilus > problem? Can you please describe it? I'm guessing it's another contribution to the "overwrite/delete" discussion we've been having recently... Vista's solution has come up in that already, although personally I think it's a pretty ugly dialog. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From vitko@post.cz Mon Jun 9 12:10:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4772750168 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:10:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 864 hrs), (distance 20, link: ethernet/modem), [77.75.72.44] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VLdSqS1miOP8 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxl.seznam.cz (mxl.seznam.cz [77.75.72.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930097500E9 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:10:38 +0000 (GMT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=post.cz; h=In-Reply-To:Received:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:X-Abuse:X-Seznam-User:X-QM-Mark; b=RHh7TRiRm6RrhprTRZc6EkAIisb8m4qMmc4RLovsUwIvRasSG3/JF4ma2+hrINjTu NjrJqLLeJvGlMW/Skp0CqNdt5atlERmOpGv0HUL4rz7qni8GBskitozqKHd7GQNOiEf zbX4citwq20JFxCnFXuUlnaHoEoUHd37nk4FWtA= In-Reply-To: <4f4806ee0805311101n6ea897fbr50d84187f1fd4012@mail.gmail.com> Received: from ( [62.209.251.66]) by email.seznam.cz (Email.Seznam.cz) with HTTP for vitko@post.cz; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:52:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:09:17 +0200 (CEST) To: =?us-ascii?Q?Mike=20Rooney?= From: vitko@post.cz Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Re=3A=20JPEG=20thumbnailing=20latency?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <506.780-15715-1081954191-1213013357@post.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Abuse: abuse@seznam.cz X-Seznam-User: vitko@post.cz X-QM-Mark: email-qm5<97897181> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:10:46 -0000 > So, are you saying fixing this bug would speed up thumbnailing > (looking at directories of images) greatly in Nautilus? No. Problem is that some image files are missing thumbnails as described previously. Fixing this bug will cause correct (re)thumbnailing of such files. Vit From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Mon Jun 9 12:14:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FDE75004D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.822 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.822 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.777, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JGGJZeIwQ91T for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B0E75021E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m59CEbYH022881 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:37 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K27003012MC1Y00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:14:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from calmac.tolka.local ([213.202.187.238]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K27006ID3C7V700@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:14:37 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:14:30 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: New feature In-reply-to: <717A07C1-5BF0-43B4-BC90-79D51E61E173@sun.com> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Nautilus Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Content-type: text/plain; delsp=yes; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4843C027.3010901@telefonica.net> <1213012976.2857.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> <717A07C1-5BF0-43B4-BC90-79D51E61E173@sun.com> Cc: Jose X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:14:47 -0000 On 9 Jun 2008, at 13:08, Calum Benson wrote: > > I'm guessing it's another contribution to the "overwrite/delete" > discussion Er, I meant "overwrite/rename/skip". -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 9 14:31:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9A97500CF for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 6710 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oW+3nLYhQjpK for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3E87500B9 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.13.98] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FF8D8CD7D; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Removable media management From: David Zeuthen To: Spider In-Reply-To: <1211931029.2388.0.camel@Waves> References: <1211931029.2388.0.camel@Waves> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:30:54 -0400 Message-Id: <1213021854.3142.7.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:31:12 -0000 On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 01:30 +0200, Spider wrote: > Would this perhaps, just maybe, also mean that we can actually fsck > USB/Firewire devices when inserted instead of seeing nasty kernel > messages about needing it? We could and as a matter of fact I recently added the necessary bits to DKD and gdu to do this http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gdu-new-fsck-logo.png http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gdu-fsck.png http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/david/DeviceKit-disks.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4b14aaa912b5ff367018f4de79c1b05a517460d http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/david/gnome-disk-utility.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaee4582461b43151570ba616484a841e9d9828e However checking a file system can take a long time.. I tried fsck'ing a 250GB SATA disk connected via USB2 with ~150GB data and I think ~5,000 files. It took ~2 minutes. So we probably need to probe for more information at detection time (e.g. extend vol_id) such as - date/time of last file system check - number of mounts without fsck - whether the file system was cleanly unmounted last time - etc. and this stuff may be file system dependent. Worst case we can always put up a notification if it takes 5 seconds or longer saying "checking disk" and allow the user to cancel it if he's in a hurry. However, that seems pretty wrong. David From luca.cappelletti@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 14:31:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CDE7502BE for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SARE_OBFUMONEY2=1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 3961 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.239] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g-G6cscAXLTp for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D98750240 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2098173rvb.3 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=a33nvKvQ2HUiEiAYdMelNsB28JmfLg6IBBkWmvRgW2E=; b=DPI4xBTnTRUeUQu4q2SFx4JWLR94bBDIDN3c/9LyeLCaLL0iHuIoh36pPrkFjCOVpy PIVJxC8JjapYbSdmjVa0bk7muP0tOb58lEdlzW8dK29VFS4m03k9MGgpLx4QUal/HhA7 T15TpJKXGQOq1dURBS1U7vK5tYAe+hbnkTH5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bh12wUowOZJwn3qNeAmBBjCEJO+9aPGZNmt5EiUS24FpmQDmOiwIZt3c5fQfOzebDg PTU6L0j/6k1zSVN40GK7HizRs8rDOjjNboxhfURagmvsNeHcu/YB84SYp44ZgXYwGa+x cMaiOm3MEuQBxcGrgTQz5gwkenGl8FqtRR5BU= Received: by 10.140.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2117205rvd.170.1213021885571; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.171.13 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:31:25 +0200 From: "Luca Cappelletti" To: "Mike Rooney" Subject: Re: Nautilus Space Mock-up In-Reply-To: <4f4806ee0806030551y6e43bbeeu964a94f1c00cc44a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14599_26662964.1213021885541" References: <1212409800.6321.45.camel@beeb1t> <48446026.4010402@myrealbox.com> <4f4806ee0806030551y6e43bbeeu964a94f1c00cc44a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:31:33 -0000 ------=_Part_14599_26662964.1213021885541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mike Rooney wrote: > 2008/6/3 Luca Cappelletti : > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas > > wrote: > >> > >> Achim Frase wrote on 02/06/08 13:30: > >> >... > >> > > >> > > http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/82416-nautilus-tabs-space.png > >> >... > >> > To my mind, the bars should show how big the files are, in relation to > >> > the folder size. > >> >... > >> > >> That's is an interesting idea. > >> > >> It's another way of presenting size. So how about making it part of the > >> "Size" column, instead of a separate column? > >> _____________________ > > > > I don't think this mock up idea improve real usability providing relative > > values feedback. > > My users does not need to know a file folder relative weight > distribution, > > they need to know only how big is an object so that they know how to > manage > > relative to their real container (the disk). > > The bar information does not provide a real value added if shows how big > the > > file is against the sum of it's folder container. > > Who needs this and what they do with this value? > > A part this opinion I think the graphical solution is real nice :) but > seems > > to me unusable. > > > Well, I think it is nice. It allows you to instantly see what files > are taking up the most space. Without this you would have to sort by > size and then read file sizes. Bars like this save the user a lot of > time and don't require sorting by that column to gain useful > information from it. > > You say users need to identify large files, how is this not > tremendously better for doing so? > Agreed about using analogical view against numerical one to show fuzzy quantities but I'm not sure about using relative-folder quantity. One of the subjects of this thread is closed to show bars that offer a relative to folder quantity and I think it's not useful to generic users other than trying to understand which file is bigger than other into the folder. But I think it will be interesting to see a color based bars (i.e: red = huge green = light) showing how they're "...taking up the most space...". My question is: Does that bars confuse users on what they really represent? What they really represent? a relative value against the folder or against the volume inside stored? or against the sum of all internal drive or the sum of all the drives? How user feels space in a computer? I'm trying to image a daily usage, but it's hard to me to simulate a good feedback against this new feature other than a simple comparison between internal folder files. Probably if the bars shows relative value against the folder content, means that there will be at least on bar full (100% of the folder) and the rest a fraction % of the biggest one and this will be possibly for me a good visual feedback :) I agree with the point of Clum about Baobab point [2] ciao :) Luca. ------=_Part_14599_26662964.1213021885541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mike Rooney <mrooney@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/6/3 Luca Cappelletti <luca.cappelletti@gmail.com>:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@myrealbox.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Achim Frase wrote on 02/06/08 13:30:
>> >...
>> >
>> > http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/82416-nautilus-tabs-space.png
>> >...
>> > To my mind, the bars should show how big the files are, in relation to
>> > the folder size.
>> >...
>>
>> That's is an interesting idea.
>>
>> It's another way of presenting size. So how about making it part of the
>> "Size" column, instead of a separate column?
>>     _____________________
>
> I don't think this mock up idea improve real usability providing relative
> values feedback.
> My users does not need to know a file folder relative weight distribution,
> they need to know only how big is an object so that they know how to manage
> relative to their real container (the disk).
> The bar information does not provide a real value added if shows how big the
> file is against the sum of it's folder container.
> Who needs this and what they do with this value?
> A part this opinion I think the graphical solution is real nice :) but seems
> to me unusable.


Well, I think it is nice. It allows you to instantly see what files
are taking up the most space. Without this you would have to sort by
size and then read file sizes. Bars like this save the user a lot of
time and don't require sorting by that column to gain useful
information from it.

You say users need to identify large files, how is this not
tremendously better for doing so?

Agreed about using analogical view against numerical one to show fuzzy quantities but I'm not sure about using relative-folder quantity.
One of the subjects of this thread is closed to show bars that offer a relative to folder quantity and I think it's not useful to generic users other than trying to understand which file is bigger than other into the folder.
But I think it will be interesting to see a color based bars (i.e: red = huge green = light) showing how they're "...taking up the most space...".
My question is: Does that bars confuse users on what they really represent? What they really represent? a relative value against the folder or against the volume inside stored? or against the sum of all internal drive or the sum of all the drives?
How user feels space in a computer?
I'm trying to image a daily usage, but it's hard to me to simulate a good feedback against this new feature other than a simple comparison between internal folder files.
Probably if the bars shows relative value against the folder content, means that there will be at least on bar full (100% of the folder) and the rest a fraction % of the biggest one and this will be possibly for me a good visual feedback :)

I agree with the point of Clum about Baobab point [2]

ciao :)

Luca.
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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leucothea.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - myrealbox.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:24:18 -0000 Shaun McCance wrote on 09/06/08 03:51: > > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 00:59 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on 01/05/08 22:34: >... >> With that in mind, I've revised >> taking into account all >> your feedback. > > Just one nitpick from me. You say on that page: > > The button to the right of (and vertically centered with) > the progress bar should read “Cancel” if the task is still > in its pre-flighting stage, or “Stop” if the task has begun > making changes on disk. > > I know we haven't addressed Cancel/Stop yet for the terminology > guidelines (and I know I haven't been doing them much lately), > but the difference between Cancel and Stop (as I'll propose it > anyway) is that Cancel denotes something that can be backed out > of completely. Exactly. Microsoft has an equivalent guideline : "Label the button Cancel if canceling returns the environment to its previous state (leaving no side effect); otherwise, label the button Stop to indicate that it leaves the partially completed operation intact." > With moving or copying a single file, the data is copied into > the new file without the original being affected at all. If > you're moving the file, the original should be unlinked only > after the new file is completely written. If you cancel the > operation, the new file can (and, I think, should) be deleted, > leaving the original still in place. > > Now, with a multiple-file move or copy, this isn't the case. > Files are copied one-by-one. So even if no particular file > is left in both places, you're left in a sort of weird state > of files in both places. So that needs to be Stop. >... I guess I was overly specific about when the button should switch to "Stop". In future, Nautilus might become able to cancel some partly-done operations, but that shouldn't change the design of the progress window. I've fixed the spec. Thanks -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ From mpt@myrealbox.com Mon Jun 9 20:28:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9228C7501CE; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:28:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 9212 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [216.118.97.161] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hqttFTFPFJsI; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:28:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leucothea.site5.com (leucothea.site5.com [216.118.97.161]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA33750160; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:28:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yttrium.canonical.com ([91.189.88.12] helo=[10.45.43.97]) by leucothea.site5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5nyk-0007bk-EZ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:28:34 -0400 Message-ID: <484D9270.3010500@myrealbox.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:28:32 +0100 From: Matthew Paul Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "usability@gnome.org List" , nautilus-list List Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> <1213000961.20459.3.camel@skunk.anacadf.mentorg.com> <77ee53dc0806090338n3405947n598a1bca0dad962b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <77ee53dc0806090338n3405947n598a1bca0dad962b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leucothea.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - myrealbox.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:28:44 -0000 Bogdan Butnaru wrote on 09/06/08 11:38: > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Xavier Bestel wrote: >> >> Just a nitpick: "Pause" doesn't seem like a very bright concept to me. >> What do you want to achieve with such a button ? My design doesn't include a "Pause" button. You may be looking at some of the alternative designs posted in the Comments section. >> If you just want to prioritize your downloads, how about a "Wait" >> button, which would pause the download until the other ones are >> finished ? > > That doesn't sound bad at all. It might be good to be even more > verbose, like "Wait for other operations" or "Finish others first". > Maybe even "Pause until others are done", heh. I think the "Do First" button does what you're looking for here. > On the other hand, I do sometimes want to just pause a file operation, > even if no other is in progress; for example, if I start a big copy-op > from/to a remote drive, I might want to pause it, do something that > needs the bandwidth (e.g., show somebody some photos, etc.) and then > resume the operation. In this case, stopping it and restarting can be > much harder. >... As I explained in my reply to Liam R E Quin, that would mean adding a third button for each task, and I'd rather avoid that if possible. Cheers -- Matthew Paul Thomas http://mpt.net.nz/ From brian@slinker.in Mon Jun 9 23:05:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA875007F for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:05:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.481 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, WHOIS_DMNBYPROXY=0.478, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11585 hrs), (distance 16, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.232] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5Ip9NU+Bq-C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:04:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F9A7500CB for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:04:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c55so1300722wra.0 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.65.14 with SMTP id n14mr4270810aga.88.1213052690920; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.33.12 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <452b07b30806091604g6649a2c9u3786b35055baaa95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:04:50 -0700 From: "Brian Fuller" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: FAT error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17475_22037403.1213052690914" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:05:25 -0000 ------=_Part_17475_22037403.1213052690914 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When attempting to access a directory on the FAT filesystem using nautilus, if a typo is incurred while attempting to input the name of the directory, Nautilus will create a secondary folder with the new wrongly inputted name in the subtree. When this happens, it's too easy to believe you've made a copying mistake, delete the tree, and have all files in the filesystem tree deleted, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fsngMKQyU http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805971 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/235878 I've noticed this bug has been reported in the past, and that on the bug-page it was mentioned that if this bug were to show up again to e-mail the list. Hopefully somebody who knows more of Nautilus than I can take a quick look at it? -BAF ------=_Part_17475_22037403.1213052690914 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When attempting to access a directory on the FAT filesystem using nautilus, if a typo is incurred while attempting to input the name of the directory, Nautilus will create a secondary folder with the new wrongly inputted name in the subtree.

When this happens, it's too easy to believe you've made a copying mistake, delete the tree, and have all files in the filesystem tree deleted,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1fsngMKQyU
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805971
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/235878

I've noticed this bug has been reported in the past, and that on the bug-page it was mentioned that if this bug were to show up again to e-mail the list.

Hopefully somebody who knows more of Nautilus than I can take a quick look at it?

-BAF
------=_Part_17475_22037403.1213052690914-- From dylanmccall@gmail.com Tue Jun 10 03:30:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C437500CC for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:30:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [154.20.139.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z20sm15252081pod.11.2008.06.09.20.30.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ao/mc/Z77VI0Wu4ROwn6" Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:30:29 -0700 Message-Id: <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 From: Dylan McCall X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:30:42 -0000 --=-ao/mc/Z77VI0Wu4ROwn6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, One problem I have with tabs is that they work just like windows; as superficial entities. They can be dragged, but that simply moves them. It may be moving them to a convenient place, but that is no different from moving a window to another place. Has anyone considered having the tabs work like the breadcrumbs currently do in Browser mode, where they can be dragged and dropped as files, or have files dropped into them, to quickly manipulate files? It would be a nice boost to functionality, and at least the dragging part should be relatively simple to implement. (That's assuming it works the same for tabs as it does for other widgets). With that in place, tabs would be very similar to the breadcrumbs metaphor, except with the user dropping crumbs himself instead of that being an automatic thing. =EF=BB=BFBesides this, drag and drop is awesome but can only work if it hap= pens everywhere. Bye, -Dylan PS: =EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFI must admit to being afraid of Nautilus' code to thi= s day, so it is unlikely I could implement this myself. --=-ao/mc/Z77VI0Wu4ROwn6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBITfVVH38fupNe5XoRAvkmAJ9HhbdVPKA6f+1xcZH10B0+Mgu2mQCggNuq +/TKtFopYtNcKfLD3Vi93Uk= =xId0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ao/mc/Z77VI0Wu4ROwn6-- From christian.kirbach@googlemail.com Tue Jun 10 05:14:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACBF7500FF for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:14:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Chudobiak" , "Mike Rooney" Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <4f4806ee0805311101n6ea897fbr50d84187f1fd4012@mail.gmail.com> <484D1922.80208@avtechpulse.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <484D1922.80208@avtechpulse.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.27 (Linux) From: Christian Kirbach Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:14:54 -0000 On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:50:58 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > Mike Rooney wrote: > No, bug 536673 says the files are not thumbnailed at all under some > conditions. It is not a question of speed. > > Thumbnailing is a slow process (especially for raw files) since it is > compute and io intensive (i.e., lots of matrix algebra + large files). That is not neccessarily true. I know that the Nikon RAW file format also stores jpeg encoded preview images ('thumbnails') within the RAW file, enabling a real quick preview. And I bet all modern digital cameras do when shooting in RAW mode. But I don't know whether ufraw is used by nautilus with this option --embedded-image Extract the preview image embedded in the raw file instead of converting the raw image. This will clearly speed things up seriously. -- Christian Kirbach Christian.Kirbach@googlemail.com From vitko@post.cz Tue Jun 10 11:18:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C287500E6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 828 hrs), (distance 20, link: ethernet/modem), [77.75.72.44] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iu8ZdE9S0nP8 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxl.seznam.cz (mxl.seznam.cz [77.75.72.44]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C3075007C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:03 +0000 (GMT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=post.cz; h=In-Reply-To:Received:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:X-Abuse:X-Seznam-User:X-QM-Mark; b=eaYt8UxwvFLu2BCVJKnbiA7qhn2paTNiTinek5wlEZysDksTJzLQyyNF4VJHAebb+ wmPDV+YBOxcN2UIKlS76CE8YktFLKf6zqdiITiIKAlNAXnPMQ6GZ7kanr7dcq9I/F0S HqgOBnICRby6HZ+OcaC6YIcIp8V0yIFO1FuD1EI= In-Reply-To: Received: from ( [62.209.251.66]) by email.seznam.cz (Email.Seznam.cz) with HTTP for vitko@post.cz; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:18:01 +0200 (CEST) To: =?us-ascii?Q?Christian=20Kirbach?= From: vitko@post.cz Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Re=3A=20JPEG=20thumbnailing=20latency?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <470.716-4360-287482819-1213096681@post.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Abuse: abuse@seznam.cz X-Seznam-User: vitko@post.cz X-QM-Mark: email-qm1<133759477> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:53 -0000 > That is not neccessarily true. I know that the Nikon RAW file format also > stores jpeg encoded preview images ('thumbnails') within the RAW file Yes, nautilus (2.22.2 on my system) apparently uses embedded JPEG thumbnail for thumbnailing RAW files (at least Canon .CR2 files). Please note that originally reported problem[1] is different one anyway. VK ----- [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536673 From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Tue Jun 10 12:10:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5013F750219 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.669 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.930, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id neEkE-fgwi+n for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EE47501C2 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m5ACAYwO020164 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:35 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2800201VEJA600@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.156.220.40] by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K2800AMVXTDTXF0@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:10:24 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-reply-to: <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Dylan McCall Message-id: <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:47 -0000 On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 20:30 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > Has anyone considered having the > tabs work like the breadcrumbs currently do in Browser mode, where they > can be dragged and dropped as files, or have files dropped into them, to > quickly manipulate files? It would be a nice boost to functionality, and > at least the dragging part should be relatively simple to implement. To generalise that idea, what you're really talking about here is having some part of any window (e.g. the icon in its tab or titlebar) act as a proxy for the document(s) it contains. Sun's OpenWindows desktop used to do this quite extensively[1]; MacOS X still does it today in a rather more half-hearted fashion. Cheeri, Calum. [1] [2] -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From mrooney@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 16:22:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037037500CF for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:22:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 9077 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vWcWWFObGJUA for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED74750198 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so1105767ywh.63 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rc+9cc9ccWgpxDQHY8oBZA+RQuNSWSlmOczVftlGULQ=; b=Oy+RcogpRH4/4esi5rpH0x9qaGOewmTYFkHJwhlLOapf8ofIfKPHgFv2Zqe6UGXaI3 hs3ARx4LCqo/LbA0V8Yck+7r1YSxfsV+88S7CLCXzUpDrLNiePWi5GH6BF2V4nCWNHfO 93QlUKf9GC9pgKnD9vSpTYtR1jrNXJJbRIX2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bOVw5Mj+OOUCi2r0Via1A5eM3ek1Xg/tueppmVXR0VbAG6f5zI7iz62Lz51hxYfH1W Ez95EWRTlzKSG1pf73fNqgGyJIqs9B2iRuCcMRgAJUAfggBSRRsL3v3alqh4mK168t7i 6+dN0/SGZnFwnSVPB/dN8VUG8K0kGOt1mdFp0= Received: by 10.150.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr6557417ybz.46.1213028501632; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.13 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f4806ee0806090921w3ff38cd4rc19e10104980939@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:21:41 -0700 From: "Mike Rooney" To: "nautilus-list List" Subject: Re: [Usability] File operations dialog redesign In-Reply-To: <1212979878.11468.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080426155220.022339c0@fastmail.fm> <4815BCA8.8050605@myrealbox.com> <4815E5A5.5020009@shaw.ca> <7babbdf231bd9b8abdf31e5453644296@myrealbox.com> <484C7254.7010706@myrealbox.com> <1212979878.11468.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:11:30 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:22:17 -0000 On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > > Now, with a multiple-file move or copy, this isn't the case. > Files are copied one-by-one. So even if no particular file > is left in both places, you're left in a sort of weird state > of files in both places. So that needs to be Stop. Why not have a system in place which can reverse the operations in this case? So, on a move, if you Cancel, all the files that have already been moved from source to destination get moved back from destination to source. For copied files, they get deleted from the destination. Any unfinished transactions are cleaned up (no half-written files, etc) and ones that haven't started yet are abandoned (I imagine both of these already happen). Personally I wouldn't find both a Stop and Cancel button confusing, I would understand the use cases. However one button (I don't know which one it would be) which prompts the user "Would you like to undo the file operations that have already completed?" [Yes|No], perhaps with an expandable dialog to show them, would be nice to allow for both behaviors, cleanly, with one button. Thoughts? - Mike Rooney From mrooney@gmail.com Mon Jun 9 16:23:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53DD75004D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:23:55 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_OBFUMONEY2=1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 1330 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.44.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SLCdzNelJ0zv for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:23:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA6A750188 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:23:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so165678yxb.63 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WN6Fn4EqEimhLwqIUj3D9aC9lI+y0W7W1T9ph7ZKGA4=; b=EiA+oLMOtFBUy7NsyrIjnvm4P1NfjuuoyTEtFuSam3q8fBTDlqiagwxqnVUGI3O3cB gF0nhrZBsIV/YP6Y549GskKlr4nhozH8Z66UT7FJgC/+ZHcZTZcMWvRYsfjdu/ZA8Auy twURx30oDzG+x+Vc2EgKJTm/wP+X26fYeo6E8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GXNDsr+zTDX+VrTq7COgThUlUUdNSGk0d9iHwOVspuGmLTdi6OgMY3jNIYQi2xbnMX 4comCC6K1oGNHOazgoVVi3v5PlO4bvYUq7qcC1IWWA+6x+O5TqB8wZKsaNprvMwfHMH1 Hy5LjhC89xi5tNLs8y76To5YR9jprKYJ0mXTw= Received: by 10.150.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr6612447ybw.24.1213028628955; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.13 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4f4806ee0806090923i7d27797ev963eabb90d0708d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:23:48 -0700 From: "Mike Rooney" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: I'm developing a Quicklook for linux and.. In-Reply-To: <1a0f6f6a0805260130n401350eek5f4ffd18211009b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1a0f6f6a0805260130n401350eek5f4ffd18211009b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:11:30 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:23:55 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Jordi Hern=E1ndez wrote: > > I would like to know how to bind a key to launch my program with the file > selected argument. > And I also would like to know how to add a button on the nautilus toolbar= to > launch my program again but with the folder argument > Sorry, I don't know the answers to either of these, I just wanted to say this sounds like a cool project. Let us know if you have a website/branch for it, thanks! Mike Rooney mrooney@gmail.com From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Tue Jun 10 12:12:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E907500CC for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:12:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.669 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.930, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sM3xv7iwTf7N for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:12:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D8675007C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m5ACCNuN020463 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:12:23 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K2800701X64SH00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Calum.Benson@Sun.COM) for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:12:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.156.220.40] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K2800FRWXWCZFH0@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:12:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:12:11 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-reply-to: <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: Dylan McCall Message-id: <1213099931.27565.12.camel@sr1-edub-04> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:12:32 -0000 On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:10 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 20:30 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > > > Has anyone considered having the > > tabs work like the breadcrumbs currently do in Browser mode, where they > > can be dragged and dropped as files, or have files dropped into them, to > > quickly manipulate files? It would be a nice boost to functionality, and > > at least the dragging part should be relatively simple to implement. > > To generalise that idea, what you're really talking about here is having > some part of any window (e.g. the icon in its tab or titlebar) act as a > proxy for the document(s) it contains. Sun's OpenWindows desktop used > to do this quite extensively[1]; MacOS X still does it today in a rather > more half-hearted fashion. And just to finish the email that Evolution sent before I was ready: this has come up as an idea on GNOME mailing lists etc. a few times before, but it's never progressed beyond the 'that sounds cool' stage, for whatever reason. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From mjc@avtechpulse.com Tue Jun 10 12:18:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFDB75012D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:18:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.42 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.187, BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:41:1:52:M1408,N,N,S,N,W6:.:?:?], (link: unknown-1448), [64.26.155.62] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMk3QvdsCE97 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:18:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com (grenfell.avtechpulse.com [64.26.155.62]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20AC750191 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:18:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13BD6E0005; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:18:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at avtechpulse.com Received: from grenfell.avtechpulse.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server2.domain.avtechpulse.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ru2IptaxRoGM; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (dogbert.domain.avtechpulse.com [192.168.0.23]) by grenfell.avtechpulse.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6BB6E0003; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484E7112.8010202@avtechpulse.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:18:26 -0400 From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" Organization: Avtech Electrosystems Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Kirbach Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> <4f4806ee0805311101n6ea897fbr50d84187f1fd4012@mail.gmail.com> <484D1922.80208@avtechpulse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, Mike Rooney X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:18:49 -0000 Christian Kirbach wrote: >> Thumbnailing is a slow process (especially for raw files) since it is >> compute and io intensive (i.e., lots of matrix algebra + large files). > > That is not neccessarily true. I know that the Nikon RAW file format > also stores jpeg encoded preview images ('thumbnails') ... > But I don't know whether ufraw is used by nautilus with this option Yes, on my Fedora system, ufraw is called as a thumbnailer script with that option: /usr/bin/ufraw-batch --embedded-image --out-type=png --size=%s %i --overwrite --silent However, thumbnailing of ordinary jpeg and tiff images is still too slow and highly memory intensive, mostly because the gtk scaling routines don't work well for large scaling factors (typically required for digital photos). This will slow down the embedded thumbnail -> system thumbnail process too. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80925 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142428 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522803 The gtk scaling routines really need some love from an algebra guru. The tiff pixbuf loader could really use some optimization (e.g., skipping strips in strip-based images to speed up thumbnailing). Maybe the png loader could use similar tricks. Side note: yes, some jpeg images also have embedded thumbnails. However, many apps forget to modify this thumbnail if the main image is modified, making the embedded thumbnail highly unreliable... - Mike From ak-47@gmx.net Tue Jun 10 15:10:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AD675007F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:10:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 4483 hrs), (distance 23, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mk7yvw-UcCsE for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:10:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51D4D750128 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jun 2008 15:10:08 -0000 Received: from f053153119.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.1.2]) [78.53.153.119] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 17:10:08 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189z9MAb009WzIPm7iuj3nMR8r6meTUCldfuqwPSA PKZ+wBGqCjQcfh Subject: Re: Bug with smb mounts and Nautilus From: Andre Klapper To: Mikael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?= In-Reply-To: <20080529185412.GH3250@grommit.se> References: <20080529185412.GH3250@grommit.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:11:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1213110661.2925.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:10:20 -0000 Am Donnerstag, den 29.05.2008, 20:54 +0200 schrieb Mikael Böhm: > I can not mount windows mounts anymore after upgrading frpm FC8 to FC9. > I think it is regardning packet gnome-vfs2-smb-2.22.0-1.fc9.i386. > > Shall I report a bug of this? It is also broken now with konquoror. Feel free to file a bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com (I have no idea if Fedora really uses gnome-vfs2-smb for this functionality now that smb mounts should have moved to glib's gio and gvfs). Downstream will know more here. andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From luca.cappelletti@gmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:01:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948B57501FA for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:01:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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(up: 10283 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.200.170] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qEU6X-jVphkr for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2D750190 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:16:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so3061995wfg.9 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.207.8 with SMTP id e8mr2449308wfg.281.1213167552436; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.77.5 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4594288b0806102359g20c74565v79d214b8c731758c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:59:12 +1000 From: "Jared Moore" Sender: cornflake.pirate@gmail.com To: "Luca Ferretti" Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-Reply-To: <1213165700.7255.20.camel@redrum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213165700.7255.20.camel@redrum> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9d7d215a013c40c8 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:18:49 -0000 Hi, FYI all my work has been committed to Christian's SVN branch, so I have taken down the Launchpad bzr branch. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno ven, 06/06/2008 alle 00.24 +1000, Jared Moore ha scritto: >> Hi all, >> > >> (1) Open tab on middle click button press or button release? >> >> The behaviour in Epiphany is rather inconsistent: history window >> middle click will activate on button press, "Home" button in toolbar >> will activate on middle click (i.e. press and release without leaving >> the button), and "Bookmarks" menu entries will activate on button >> release (regardless of where you pressed). > > Maybe it's just a bug in Ephy, not a design choice. > >> The current behaviour in my Nautilus branch is to open a tab on button >> press. I should probably change this to button release, since that is >> generally the standard for most UIs (although I can't see anything >> specific in the HIG). What are people's thoughts about this? > > I agree on release. > Ok, that's easily fixed. >> If button release is preferred then I guess a bug should be filed >> against the Epiphany history view. > > IMHO, let's go and file it :-) Filed: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537731 > >> (2) Labels for menu items in "Tabs" menu >> >> There are really 2 main options for this - either a (semi)-full path >> like in gnome-terminal (e.g. "~/Pictures/2006/Beach holiday") or just >> the current folder (e.g. "Beach holiday"). I am leaning towards the >> former since it is a bit more informative, although the latter is >> obviously simpler ( and easier to implement ^.^ ). Currently the >> latter is implemented because I'm lazy. Thoughts? > > gedit is using only file name (full path showed in statusbar when > menuitem is focuses). IMHO is the best choice. > > BTW, gedit also provide a tooltip for tab labels with full path and > additional info, matching previous Tabs menu layout. Maybe could be good > in Nautilus too (I don't have a fresh multiview branch build to check > current behavior). I didn't notice that tooltip feature. Makes sense to have it in Nautilus. Another thing I didn't notice in gedit was the statusbar message when changing tabs using the "Documents" menu. I'll have a look into that for Nautilus too. > > Oh, maybe in Finder history or recent files menu in MacOS, I don't > remember exactly, but one of them or both should have the really > interesting feature to provide only the filename when it's unique and > the full path otherwise. Example: > > > Document 1 > Document 2 > /first/path/to/README > /second/path/to/README > > Could be really cool have it in Gtk+ > That's a good idea, since it allows for both conciseness and unambiguity. I think that should definitely be the default. Do you think it's worth adding a hidden GConf preference? >> (3) Open tab by middle clicking on folder in main view >> >> Currently in Christian's branch this is a double-middle-click, which >> is inconsistent - to me this operation seems analogous to >> middle-clicking a hyperlink in Epiphany. I'd like to change this but >> first I'd like to check what other people think before I blatantly >> change the UI decision that Christian made :) > > Ephy is a web browser, so it works only with single-clicks. > > Nautilus is a file manager, I think we should respect the double/single > click option in preferences (Edit->Preferences >> Behavior tab). > > So, if you have double-clic on left button, you should have > double-middle-clic on middle button. And if you have single-click on > left button, you should have single-middle-click on middle button. Right > button always and only works with single clic, I suppose. > Good point. Now that I check, it looks like that's how Christian has implemented it so I'll leave it that way. > > PS Is it planned (or maybe yet implemented) a "create a new window > dragging out a tab" feature? I might implement that sometime soon but maybe not. I see no good reason for it to not be implemented eventually though :) If & when the tabs code lands in trunk, perhaps a new "Tabs" component should be added in bugzilla. > > PPS are you (and Christian) keeping track of feature in order to update > the user guide? We'll have to document how the tabs works... > Keeping track mentally at the moment. It's in the Changelog anyway, in case I forget or disappear off the face of the Earth. :) Thanks for all your suggestions! Cheers, Jared Moore From elle.uca@libero.it Wed Jun 11 14:29:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7809D750571 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 2093 hrs), (distance 21, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [212.52.84.111] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id twnp2B2D4c+5 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cp-out11.libero.it (cp-out11.libero.it [212.52.84.111]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7C57504F0 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:24:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [151.50.131.50] (151.50.131.50) by cp-out11.libero.it (8.5.014) id 484D2FE8003EBAEE; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:15 +0200 Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions From: Luca Ferretti To: Jared Moore In-Reply-To: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tJ0Cn3PRNok9IQ3Nng0b" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1213165700.7255.20.camel@redrum> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:36 -0000 --=-tJ0Cn3PRNok9IQ3Nng0b Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Il giorno ven, 06/06/2008 alle 00.24 +1000, Jared Moore ha scritto: > Hi all, >=20 > (1) Open tab on middle click button press or button release? >=20 > The behaviour in Epiphany is rather inconsistent: history window > middle click will activate on button press, "Home" button in toolbar > will activate on middle click (i.e. press and release without leaving > the button), and "Bookmarks" menu entries will activate on button > release (regardless of where you pressed). Maybe it's just a bug in Ephy, not a design choice. > The current behaviour in my Nautilus branch is to open a tab on button > press. I should probably change this to button release, since that is > generally the standard for most UIs (although I can't see anything > specific in the HIG). What are people's thoughts about this? I agree on release. > If button release is preferred then I guess a bug should be filed > against the Epiphany history view. IMHO, let's go and file it :-) > (2) Labels for menu items in "Tabs" menu >=20 > There are really 2 main options for this - either a (semi)-full path > like in gnome-terminal (e.g. "~/Pictures/2006/Beach holiday") or just > the current folder (e.g. "Beach holiday"). I am leaning towards the > former since it is a bit more informative, although the latter is > obviously simpler ( and easier to implement ^.^ ). Currently the > latter is implemented because I'm lazy. Thoughts? gedit is using only file name (full path showed in statusbar when menuitem is focuses). IMHO is the best choice. BTW, gedit also provide a tooltip for tab labels with full path and additional info, matching previous Tabs menu layout. Maybe could be good in Nautilus too (I don't have a fresh multiview branch build to check current behavior). Oh, maybe in Finder history or recent files menu in MacOS, I don't remember exactly, but one of them or both should have the really interesting feature to provide only the filename when it's unique and the full path otherwise. Example: Document 1 Document 2 /first/path/to/README /second/path/to/README Could be really cool have it in Gtk+=20 > (3) Open tab by middle clicking on folder in main view >=20 > Currently in Christian's branch this is a double-middle-click, which > is inconsistent - to me this operation seems analogous to > middle-clicking a hyperlink in Epiphany. I'd like to change this but > first I'd like to check what other people think before I blatantly > change the UI decision that Christian made :) Ephy is a web browser, so it works only with single-clicks. Nautilus is a file manager, I think we should respect the double/single click option in preferences (Edit->Preferences >> Behavior tab). So, if you have double-clic on left button, you should have double-middle-clic on middle button. And if you have single-click on left button, you should have single-middle-click on middle button. Right button always and only works with single clic, I suppose. PS Is it planned (or maybe yet implemented) a "create a new window dragging out a tab" feature? PPS are you (and Christian) keeping track of feature in order to update the user guide? We'll have to document how the tabs works... --=-tJ0Cn3PRNok9IQ3Nng0b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Questa =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E8?= una parte del messaggio firmata digitalmente -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIT3CEAt3jtqKnF1cRArVjAJ90s5Fw7/dmNemS5WhL0kTC+SyuVwCgg1Gh nY3hADgZA4M1iKqKpAUNkso= =ZsSu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tJ0Cn3PRNok9IQ3Nng0b-- From cneumair@gnome.org Wed Jun 11 14:37:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDD07503DB for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 7223 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3aCnJcUBsrHw for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F347504B4 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 34798 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jun 2008 15:25:31 +0200 Received: from p5496f631.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.246.49) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 15:25:31 +0200 Subject: Re: JPEG thumbnailing latency From: Christian Neumair To: Vitezslav Kotrla In-Reply-To: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> References: <1212211683.4684.3.camel@dido.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:29:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1213190952.1272.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:38 -0000 Am Samstag, den 31.05.2008, 07:28 +0200 schrieb Vitezslav Kotrla: > I may have finally solved one of thumbnailing mysteries I've met in > nautilus 2.22: Thanks for your bug report, I fixed this issue both in trunk and in the GNOME 2.22 branch: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus?view=revision&revision=14255 best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Wed Jun 11 14:40:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2924B75058C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:40:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BZ=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [62.10.60.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm15455211fgb.6.2008.06.11.07.31.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions From: Cosimo Cecchi To: Jared Moore In-Reply-To: <4594288b0806102359g20c74565v79d214b8c731758c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213165700.7255.20.camel@redrum> <4594288b0806102359g20c74565v79d214b8c731758c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:31:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1213194675.18842.3.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, Luca Ferretti X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:40:05 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 16:59 +1000, Jared Moore wrote: > Hi, > > FYI all my work has been committed to Christian's SVN branch, so I > have taken down the Launchpad bzr branch. Great work! That's good news to hear :) [snip] > > PPS are you (and Christian) keeping track of feature in order to update > > the user guide? We'll have to document how the tabs works... > > > > Keeping track mentally at the moment. It's in the Changelog anyway, in > case I forget or disappear off the face of the Earth. :) I suggest to mail gnome-doc-list@gnome.org for a language and screenshot review for this :) Cheers! From cneumair@gnome.org Wed Jun 11 14:45:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0304D7506DD for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1RJax7x2Jj2q for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490A475034B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 53513 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jun 2008 15:32:40 +0200 Received: from p5496f631.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) 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From: Christian Neumair To: Jordi =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hern=E1ndez?= In-Reply-To: <1a0f6f6a0805260130n401350eek5f4ffd18211009b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1a0f6f6a0805260130n401350eek5f4ffd18211009b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:36:21 +0200 Message-Id: <1213191381.1272.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:48 -0000 Am Montag, den 26.05.2008, 10:30 +0200 schrieb Jordi Hernández: > I would like to know how to bind a key to launch my program with the > file selected argument. > And I also would like to know how to add a button on the nautilus > toolbar to launch my program again but with the folder argument You can use the Nautilus extension mechanism through libnautilus-extension to add * menu entries * toolbar widgets * location widgets (which looks like the "empty trash" bar) At the moment however, you cannot add any keybindings for widgets added through Nautilus extensions. I actually planned the keybinding functionality for GNOME 2.24, but I'm running out of time and nobody has volunteered yet. Feel free to work on it, though :). best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From cornflake.pirate@gmail.com Wed Jun 11 15:53:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1C75050E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:53:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10251 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.142.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U2yVxxuhvSWa for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123BD750227 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b6so977028tic.1 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.69.5 with SMTP id r5mr1305648tia.17.1213157311249; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.68.16 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4594288b0806102108ue1709b0mf7862550f86b1893@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:31 +1000 From: "Jared Moore" Sender: cornflake.pirate@gmail.com To: "Luca Cappelletti" Subject: Re: multivew branch status & UI decisions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: baaad001aa61471b Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:53:57 -0000 Hi Luca, I agree with you, but as far as I know it's not currently possible to do that using GtkNotebook. Have a look at this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116650 Cheers, Jared From cneumair@gnome.org Wed Jun 11 19:01:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2160B75002F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:01:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 7269 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GSOxntADBTWi for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:01:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627BA75007E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 61057 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jun 2008 20:57:44 +0200 Received: from p5496edfe.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.237.254) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 20:57:44 +0200 Subject: document icons as DND sources From: Christian Neumair To: Calum Benson In-Reply-To: <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:01:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1213210886.21142.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, Dylan McCall X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:01:37 -0000 Am Dienstag, den 10.06.2008, 13:10 +0100 schrieb Calum Benson: > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 20:30 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > > > Has anyone considered having the > > tabs work like the breadcrumbs currently do in Browser mode, where they > > can be dragged and dropped as files, or have files dropped into them, to > > quickly manipulate files? It would be a nice boost to functionality, and > > at least the dragging part should be relatively simple to implement. > > To generalise that idea, what you're really talking about here is having > some part of any window (e.g. the icon in its tab or titlebar) act as a > proxy for the document(s) it contains. Sun's OpenWindows desktop used > to do this quite extensively[1]; MacOS X still does it today in a rather > more half-hearted fashion. > > > [1] > [2] > I am a huge fan of DND concepts, and making icons represent documents is totally intuitive from a user perspective, and a major step forward. If this is adopted, it should be done across the entire desktop. I often wanted to to directly trash a downloaded PDF documents, or move it to a particular folder. Some random notes: * [If we re-use the Sun concept]: Where to place the icon / drag handle. The RHS of the toolbar, or an area overlapping both the menu bar and the toolbar seem to be a good choice - where we put a spinner for file and web browsers: [ file edit ... ] | ****** | T O O L | *icon* | B A R | ******  * What other drag handles can we come up with. For instance, window lists could also be used as a drag source. * What actions to offer. move/copy DND is fine, but for PDF documents we may also offer dedicated file operation shortcuts on right-clicking (Trash, Cut, Copy). It would be amazing if you do some UI studies how this could actually look, then we can discuss about getting this into GNOME. :) best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From john.stowers.lists@gmail.com Wed Jun 11 20:54:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0331475006C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:54:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [118.90.16.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm619237wfg.15.2008.06.11.13.54.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: document icons as DND sources From: John Stowers To: Christian Neumair In-Reply-To: <1213210886.21142.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4594288b0806050724m3cbdbc50oe6f275864a2463e9@mail.gmail.com> <1213068629.23510.11.camel@dylan-laptop> <1213099824.27565.9.camel@sr1-edub-04> <1213210886.21142.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:56:51 +1200 Message-Id: <1213217811.7111.0.camel@nzjrs-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, Dylan McCall , Calum Benson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:54:51 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 21:01 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 10.06.2008, 13:10 +0100 schrieb Calum Benson: > > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 20:30 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > > > > > Has anyone considered having the > > > tabs work like the breadcrumbs currently do in Browser mode, where they > > > can be dragged and dropped as files, or have files dropped into them, to > > > quickly manipulate files? It would be a nice boost to functionality, and > > > at least the dragging part should be relatively simple to implement. > > > > To generalise that idea, what you're really talking about here is having > > some part of any window (e.g. the icon in its tab or titlebar) act as a > > proxy for the document(s) it contains. Sun's OpenWindows desktop used > > to do this quite extensively[1]; MacOS X still does it today in a rather > > more half-hearted fashion. > > > > > > [1] > > [2] > > > > I am a huge fan of DND concepts, and making icons represent documents is > totally intuitive from a user perspective, and a major step forward. > > If this is adopted, it should be done across the entire desktop. I often > wanted to to directly trash a downloaded PDF documents, or move it to a > particular folder. > > Some random notes: > > * [If we re-use the Sun concept]: Where to place the icon / drag > handle. The RHS of the toolbar, or an area overlapping both the menu bar > and the toolbar seem to be a good choice - where we put a spinner for > file and web browsers: > > [ file edit ... ] | ****** > | T O O L | *icon* > | B A R | ****** I quite like the look of http://tango.freedesktop.org/Window_Experiments >  > > * What other drag handles can we come up with. For instance, window > lists could also be used as a drag source. > > * What actions to offer. move/copy DND is fine, but for PDF documents we > may also offer dedicated file operation shortcuts on right-clicking > (Trash, Cut, Copy). > > It would be amazing if you do some UI studies how this could actually > look, then we can discuss about getting this into GNOME. :) > > best regards, > Christian Neumair > > -- > Christian Neumair > > -- > nautilus-list mailing list > nautilus-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list From 84yelo3@gmail.com Thu Jun 12 02:05:03 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE5A75007C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Can you help me, so I can submit a patch? Nicol=F2 Chieffo, From mrooney@gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:42:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34707501F2 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:42:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Imagine that I started a move of 50GB > of files between two partitions. After 25GB are copied, I press > "cancel". Under your proposal, this would start a backwards move of > 25GB, which will take a long time. But a user expects things to stop > when they press cancel, so they'd get confused. > But we already discussed how those are two completely different operations. I cannot agree, at all, that a "Cancel" button should "Stop" in the terms we have discussed, and I can't imagine anyone else would either. I suppose you could argue it might confuse users, although with the two together I am not sure. Anyway, your next point addresses the issue is a better way. > I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have a single "stop" button that, > when pressed, gives the user the half-dozen or so options we've been > discussing. (Or, perhaps better, a simple "stop" button with some > clear semantic and a "more" button with the options.) > > The options available would include: > "stop: leave already moved files in place, but stop moving the others" > "revert [or cancel]: copy already-moved files back to destination > (will take about #m#s)" (We know how long it took us one way, so we > should know rather well how long it'll take to put them back.) > "pause: temporarily stop moving files, but don't abort the operation > (you can resume it later) > "low priority: allow other file operations finish first" > "high priority: pause other file operations until this one is finished" > First, a qualm: the last one doesn't even make sense. Why should "pause OTHER file operations until THIS one is finished" be an option under "Stop" for a file transfer? It is almost the exact opposite of Stopping. That is incredibly unintuitive. In general, I think it would be better to split into two buttons: Stop and Wait. When you press the stop button, it asks if you want to just stop or revert the already made changes. When you press wait, it asks if it should pause, or set to low priority. This is because we shouldn't hide functionality where you wouldn't expect it to be. If you put the pause options in Stop, someone who wants to just delay or slow down their transfer isn't going to realize Stop gives them an option to do that. However putting the low priority option in Pause I think makes sense because Pause is what you are going to click if you want something else to finish faster, so this will accomplish that goal also. Where the High priority would go, I don't know. That probably requires another button which I don't think is great. Perhaps it doesn't need to exist at all. You could accomplish the same thing by setting the others to low priority and I wonder how many there would truly be (seeing as there isn't one for each file (I don't think), just one for each "action" or group of files doing a similar operation). A user isn't likely to stat 20 other file operations if they already did or are going to start a really high priority transfer; pausing 1 other is honestly the biggest use case I imagine, and anything around 4 others should be easy with this system as well. Supporting this for 20 would be nice but it requires (I think) an extra button. -- Mike Rooney From christopher.fanning@gmail.com Thu Jun 12 13:28:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A71F750088 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:28:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:47:02 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:28:47 -0000 Hi, I'm new on the list. (hope this question hasn't been asked a thousand times already) I've got some samba shares mounted in my home directory. /home/user/shares/mountpoint(s) When I open Nautilus I've noticed that there is network activity between my desktop and the samba server(s). It happens all the time (not just when I'm opening the mointpoints). Just simply opening Nautilus at my home directory creates network traffic to all samba servers. This makes Nautilus slow down. One of the samba servers is at a remote site so traffic on the WAN is even slower. The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. What can I do? Thanks. Chris. From dariemp@gmail.com Fri Jun 13 14:45:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2DF7500EA for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:45:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Right now I'm trying to develop a Nautilus extension in Python, which launches an application from a menu item on a folder popup menu, must add an emblem to that folder and, in another moment, remove it. I successfully launched the application, but I found some problems when working with emblems. I found that there exists the function nautilus_file_info_add_emblem(), which adds an emblem per session basis, so the emblem is not persistent through user's different sessions. My first cuestion is: Is there any way I can do this in a persistent manner? The other problem is that there is no way I can remove the emblem using nautilus extensions. Is there any way to achieve that? I would find very useful the existence of something like a nautilus_file_info_remove_emblem() function. I think this two functions should exist and work in a persistent manner. Or maybe I'm just lost and not following the correct path. Please, any help will be highly apreciated. cheers, Dariem PS - Forgive my English, I'm not a native speaker of the language ;-) From guillermo@hachemuda.com Sat Jun 14 09:51:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E5F7500CD for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:51:02 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 104 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [208.97.132.145] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5L2wGUaLw1RU for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-145.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.145]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815EF750069 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (178.Red-83-44-57.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.44.57.178]) by spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC8121365 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "Paste as Root" Nautilus script or extension From: Guillermo Latorre To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:50:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1213437049.9468.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:51:02 -0000 Hi, I am new to the list and have suscribed because I am starting to write some modifications and scripts or extension to Nautilus. I want to ask for some help with a possible "Paste as Root" Nautilus script. I think it would be VERY useful for many users, directly paste some files (previously copied to clipboard as normal user) with superuser provileges. Is there any way to access clipboard and execute a "paste" command with gksu? Thank you very much! Guille ------------------------- http://www.hachemuda.com http://www.genbeta.com ------------------------- From cneumair@gnome.org Sat Jun 14 22:54:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1336750118 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:54:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 8028 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0jIgPeeemy3X for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C589750085 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 98719 invoked by uid 89); 15 Jun 2008 00:50:52 +0200 Received: from p5496fc7a.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.252.122) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2008 00:50:52 +0200 Subject: Re: The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. From: Christian Neumair To: Chris Fanning In-Reply-To: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:54:36 +0200 Message-Id: <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:54:46 -0000 Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: > I've got some samba shares mounted in my home directory. > /home/user/shares/mountpoint(s) > When I open Nautilus I've noticed that there is network activity > between my desktop and the samba server(s). > It happens all the time (not just when I'm opening the mointpoints). > Just simply opening Nautilus at my home directory creates network > traffic to all samba servers. > > This makes Nautilus slow down. One of the samba servers is at a remote > site so traffic on the WAN is even slower. > The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. > > What can I do? There are two aspects: A) Nautilus will try to list get the number of items in the mount point's root directory, even if you are not displaying it. This is a feature. Currently, the internal priority for this process is equal to the priority of the I/O tasks for getting basic file metadata. Maybe the I/O priorities could be optimized for optimal display speed on scenarios where subfolders are used. B) You are using FUSE, or kernel mounts. However, for optimal integration you should use GVFS mounts. Unfortunately, permanent mounts for remote shares are not yet available in GVFS (Christian Kellner is working on it, though), so this is not an option yet - unless you add a startup script that executes a set of gvfs-mount commands. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From cneumair@gnome.org Sat Jun 14 22:59:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DC17500E9 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:59:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 8028 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sqpZtHH2WwMI for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:59:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07F750069 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:59:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 3716 invoked by uid 89); 15 Jun 2008 00:55:31 +0200 Received: from p5496fc7a.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.252.122) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2008 00:55:31 +0200 Subject: Re: "Paste as Root" Nautilus script or extension From: Christian Neumair To: Guillermo Latorre In-Reply-To: <1213437049.9468.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1213437049.9468.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:59:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1213484355.6034.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:59:26 -0000 Am Samstag, den 14.06.2008, 11:50 +0200 schrieb Guillermo Latorre: > Is there any way to access clipboard and execute a "paste" command > with gksu? The plan is to use PolicyKit for a using a sudo-like file I/O functionality: http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/11/23/file-operations-in-nautilus-gio-and-adventures-in-the-land-of-policykit/ However, I think nobody has been working on this feature yet. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From dariemp@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 22:45:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E5875006E for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:45:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7932 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.225] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cm+E7Cmff0Xs for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:45:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047BE750118 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:45:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so898535wra.27 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=eKkkdNC5wib4aYqlFIIaOb0k2JvSsi/VaSpn2jtnK4c=; b=ilfWscfYYkkWBLag9VD8MX3gPw8S3vdX0FMhmQ4W+A+tHiNO0TRKKOPIEkru7hcuz9 cg1DZ6dutZiy5P5aeEnscwYfPxeh4d5DkmIpe0XbIqBRjFTfbKfCfEkooceiRfWdfo4R rfDZdfUh0AgCRlmeLp9rGMyHtrGFA9HyNRCXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fxBv7gebqM2AsjoJG5Gs3JmBEMQOHeSpLXyLLqeKw+urIFSiT9y5NpYxLanvYLoOSj /7l0F3KpJeD9yYWOdZyMbgQzUUqxKb/UFhNR/Q3C7VyM+kxr9GibENO/QxP2IA4Itj+F NsZ+BfHSlzYyyiQMgkyNhFUf3R8qQwugZeijE= Received: by 10.90.102.8 with SMTP id z8mr5988428agb.53.1213569905290; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.100.3 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:45:05 -0500 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dariem_P=E9rez_Herrera?=" To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Observations about Nautilus extensions and more MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: dariemp@gmail.com List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:45:14 -0000 Some days ago, I sent a message to the list with subject "Help wanted about extensions", where I was complaining about the lack of functionality of one of the exposed interfaces of Nautilus extensions. I haven't received any kind of answer or feedback, but I've continued searching for other functionalities and I'm a kind of surprised on how difficult is to interact with Nautilus from a developer point of view. Extensions seems to me like a partial solution (extend is different to interact or communicate), cause some common features that (I think) should be exposed through some API are still missing. Something as simple as modifying some UI elements permanently (like emblems, for instance), will require the developer to modify configuration metafiles, because Nautilus doesn't provide public functions or any other kind of IPC mechanism to access this feature. The same happens when trying to refresh the desktop after changing some look&feel configuration file. It may be more examples, but I've concentrated on things I've worked out. I think also it would be nice for Nautilus to implement some kind of Dbus interface so it can receive messages from other applications. Correct me if I'm wrong and point me to the right direction if that is the case. greetings, Dariem PS - I still hope some good soul help me with the problem explained in my message "Help wanted about extensions" :-) From zoran.rilak@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 22:54:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779BF750114 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:54:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [75.60.173.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h14sm7091136wxd.0.2008.06.15.15.54.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Observations about Nautilus extensions and more From: Zoran Rilak To: dariemp@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:54:20 -0400 Message-Id: <1213570460.13247.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:54:52 -0000 On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:45 -0500, Dariem Pérez Herrera wrote: > Some days ago, I sent a message to the list with subject "Help wanted > about extensions", where I was complaining about the lack of > functionality of one of the exposed interfaces of Nautilus extensions. I agree with Dariem. I tried to fiddle with Nautilus metafiles the other day and found out that there was no API I could tap into without resorting to reading source. My use case was simple: for every subfolder in a given folder, assign first image contained therein as that folder's thumbnail image. I feel like basic metafile API should be more exposed. What is the official stance on this? Is Nautilus to remain a fairly monolithic beast, or is it due to lack of time/interest? Best, Zoran From cneumair@gnome.org Sun Jun 15 23:05:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1007500B2 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:05:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 8269 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1XP0UA1C4KaX for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:05:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E5D750173 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 27170 invoked by uid 89); 16 Jun 2008 01:01:39 +0200 Received: from p5496cf70.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.207.112) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2008 01:01:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Observations about Nautilus extensions and more From: Christian Neumair To: Zoran Rilak In-Reply-To: <1213570460.13247.9.camel@localhost> References: <1213570460.13247.9.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:05:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1213571123.13920.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, dariemp@gmail.com X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:05:36 -0000 Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2008, 18:54 -0400 schrieb Zoran Rilak: > > I agree with Dariem. I tried to fiddle with Nautilus metafiles the > other day and found out that there was no API I could tap into without > resorting to reading source. My use case was simple: for every > subfolder in a given folder, assign first image contained therein as > that folder's thumbnail image. I feel like basic metafile API should > be > more exposed. What is the official stance on this? Is Nautilus to > remain a fairly monolithic beast, or is it due to lack of > time/interest? The latter. We would really appreciate if anybody out there with enough time for adding an IPC interface to the metafiles put some efforts into this. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From zoran.rilak@gmail.com Sun Jun 15 23:12:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FB175008C for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:12:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [75.60.173.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9sm5952998wra.10.2008.06.15.16.12.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Observations about Nautilus extensions and more From: Zoran Rilak To: Christian Neumair In-Reply-To: <1213571123.13920.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1213570460.13247.9.camel@localhost> <1213571123.13920.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:12:46 -0400 Message-Id: <1213571566.13247.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org, dariemp@gmail.com X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:12:56 -0000 Let's get cracking then. Dariem might be willing; anyone else who's game? :) Zoran On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 01:05 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2008, 18:54 -0400 schrieb Zoran Rilak: > > > > I agree with Dariem. I tried to fiddle with Nautilus metafiles the > > other day and found out that there was no API I could tap into without > > resorting to reading source. My use case was simple: for every > > subfolder in a given folder, assign first image contained therein as > > that folder's thumbnail image. I feel like basic metafile API should > > be > > more exposed. What is the official stance on this? Is Nautilus to > > remain a fairly monolithic beast, or is it due to lack of > > time/interest? > > The latter. We would really appreciate if anybody out there with enough > time for adding an IPC interface to the metafiles put some efforts into > this. > > best regards, > Christian Neumair > From christopher.fanning@gmail.com Mon Jun 16 07:33:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBB975006E for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:33:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GF=0.077, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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In-Reply-To: <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:33:50 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Christian Neumair wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: >> I've got some samba shares mounted in my home directory. >> /home/user/shares/mountpoint(s) >> When I open Nautilus I've noticed that there is network activity >> between my desktop and the samba server(s). >> It happens all the time (not just when I'm opening the mointpoints). >> Just simply opening Nautilus at my home directory creates network >> traffic to all samba servers. >> >> This makes Nautilus slow down. One of the samba servers is at a remote >> site so traffic on the WAN is even slower. >> The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. >> >> What can I do? > > There are two aspects: > Hi, please forgive me if I blunder here. > A) Nautilus will try to list get the number of items in the mount > point's root directory, even if you are not displaying it. This is a > feature. > I am trying to imagine the benefits of examining ./shares/mount1 while opening /home/user/directory, why is it a feature? I've also noticed that any gnome app will provoke the same with the Open Dialog. > Currently, the internal priority for this process is equal to the > priority of the I/O tasks for getting basic file metadata. Maybe the I/O > priorities could be optimized for optimal display speed on scenarios > where subfolders are used. > > B) You are using FUSE, or kernel mounts. However, for optimal > integration you should use GVFS mounts. Unfortunately, permanent mounts > for remote shares are not yet available in GVFS (Christian Kellner is > working on it, though), so this is not an option yet - unless you add a > startup script that executes a set of gvfs-mount commands. > I haven't started using gfvs yet. But (please correct me if I'm wrong), gvfs is going to let me access these shares like kde does, "smb://server/share". 99% of the documents on the samba servers are ODF. From experience with KDE, at least until very recently, OpenOffice cannot open/save files to a folder opened in this manner. It reports I/O errors. We avoid this by mounting and umounting user shares on login/logout with pam-scripts. Are you suggesting that this directory scanning will not happen if we continue to mount at login but upgrade to gvfs? Just a thought. Perhaps an gconf option could be added to nautilus something like --exclude-other-filesystems sometime in the future. best regards. Chris. > best regards, > Christian Neumair > > -- > Christian Neumair > > From cneumair@gnome.org Mon Jun 16 12:50:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE2F75006E for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:50:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, TW_GF=0.077, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 8407 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82qXrMFSwVmP for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:50:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6109D750060 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:50:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 57493 invoked by uid 89); 16 Jun 2008 14:46:34 +0200 Received: from p5496cf70.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.207.112) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2008 14:46:34 +0200 Subject: Re: The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. From: Christian Neumair To: Chris Fanning In-Reply-To: <215ff4410806160033x6a58ee0fmc7e9adce97e2b45d@mail.gmail.com> References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806160033x6a58ee0fmc7e9adce97e2b45d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:50:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1213620619.6263.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:50:32 -0000 Am Montag, den 16.06.2008, 09:33 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Christian Neumair > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: > >> I've got some samba shares mounted in my home directory. > >> /home/user/shares/mountpoint(s) > >> When I open Nautilus I've noticed that there is network activity > >> between my desktop and the samba server(s). > >> It happens all the time (not just when I'm opening the > mointpoints). > >> Just simply opening Nautilus at my home directory creates network > >> traffic to all samba servers. (...) > > A) Nautilus will try to list get the number of items in the mount > > point's root directory, even if you are not displaying it. This is a > > feature. > > > I am trying to imagine the benefits of examining ./shares/mount1 while > opening /home/user/directory, why is it a feature? > I've also noticed that any gnome app will provoke the same with the > Open Dialog. I was not entirely clear. The directory "mount1" from your example is not listed, just "shares". Listing "shares" already causes network traffic for all mounts. Just mount a bunch of shares, launch a network sniffer like wireshark and enter "ls" in the "shares" directory. I am not an expert though when it comes to the gory details of UNIX mounts. Maybe somebody out there knows when exactly network I/O will be caused. All of this probably also depends on the FS module you use. I can not give you any constructive suggestion, except to move the contents of ~/shares to ~/shares/smb, which will at least circumvent the directory listing of mount points. > > B) You are using FUSE, or kernel mounts. However, for optimal > > integration you should use GVFS mounts. Unfortunately, permanent mounts > > for remote shares are not yet available in GVFS (Christian Kellner is > > working on it, though), so this is not an option yet - unless you add a > > startup script that executes a set of gvfs-mount commands. > > > I haven't started using gfvs yet. But (please correct me if I'm > wrong), gvfs is going to let me access these shares like kde does, > "smb://server/share". Exactly. It also lets you access all your GVFS mounts under ~/.gvfs with convetional UNIX applications. > 99% of the documents on the samba servers are ODF. From experience > with KDE, at least until very recently, OpenOffice cannot open/save > files to a folder opened in this manner. It reports I/O errors. We > avoid this by mounting and umounting user shares on login/logout with > pam-scripts. Just FYI, OpenOffice will end up with GVFS support: http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2008/05/01/ooo-gio-integration/ > Are you suggesting that this directory scanning will not happen if we > continue to mount at login but upgrade to gvfs? During the mount process, traffic will be carried out already. However, it would at least not slow down loading of local directories. As I pointed out: It is very unfortunate that we still do not have support for permanent remote mounts (i.e. "volumes") across sessions in GVFS, these would probably resolve your issues. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From nbenitezl@gmail.com Mon Jun 16 12:51:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2FD750090 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:51:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11361 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.158] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yS0NBOx5Koza for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:51:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B70750084 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:51:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so3446830fgb.33 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=fd/tKdRQ/Z+JlHRBDv0ZmfEvynIEOQFG/Cpxo//1BKo=; b=EuoWu6nmwG5fVVe9iqLtHSET/ddoNpQz3Tn5GISM+zGOySa0vt9fP0i8TyX1CWYNeV 91V27nMzRqfcCcZp5BqUANbTeCCJLQbfDYTsAHB3Ay9SmPIFk+86bE2aFugEeNji/DWx I0HRRz1wC1KfOa/u/WecPFOvDIQQv99YwcZdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BEfqZpYc+BP3wjuneNPJj60nFELXn8gNUpRjYt02IaGJjJwTebgvVaWSxK9cMwhwm0 Arh+E5JVyBzk30/zS2/1kDyQ3YOyMpnibgt9D5/ld2KvrRJ/IIQJTu9/9itKq8tEpAnR Ol79kNqlduFn1r1pS2RM3IfBpEggLUyv+A39U= Received: by 10.86.23.17 with SMTP id 17mr7819336fgw.32.1213620677691; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.80.20 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:51:17 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nelson_Ben=EDtez_Le=F3n?=" To: "Zoran Rilak" Subject: Re: Observations about Nautilus extensions and more In-Reply-To: <1213571566.13247.11.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11544_31923322.1213620677641" References: <1213570460.13247.9.camel@localhost> <1213571123.13920.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1213571566.13247.11.camel@localhost> Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list@gnome.org, dariemp@gmail.com X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:51:28 -0000 ------=_Part_11544_31923322.1213620677641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm willing to help, though I would need to learn D-Bus and also my time to work on this is somewhat restricted... 2008/6/16 Zoran Rilak : > Let's get cracking then. Dariem might be willing; anyone else who's > game? :) > > Zoran > > On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 01:05 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2008, 18:54 -0400 schrieb Zoran Rilak: > > > > > > I agree with Dariem. I tried to fiddle with Nautilus metafiles the > > > other day and found out that there was no API I could tap into without > > > resorting to reading source. My use case was simple: for every > > > subfolder in a given folder, assign first image contained therein as > > > that folder's thumbnail image. I feel like basic metafile API should > > > be > > > more exposed. What is the official stance on this? Is Nautilus to > > > remain a fairly monolithic beast, or is it due to lack of > > > time/interest? > > > > The latter. We would really appreciate if anybody out there with enough > > time for adding an IPC interface to the metafiles put some efforts into > > this. > > > > best regards, > > Christian Neumair > > > > -- > nautilus-list mailing list > nautilus-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list > ------=_Part_11544_31923322.1213620677641 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm willing to help, though I would need to learn D-Bus and also my time to work on this is somewhat restricted...

2008/6/16 Zoran Rilak <zoran.rilak@gmail.com>:
Let's get cracking then.  Dariem might be willing; anyone else who's
game? :)

Zoran

On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 01:05 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2008, 18:54 -0400 schrieb Zoran Rilak:
> >
> > I agree with Dariem.  I tried to fiddle with Nautilus metafiles the
> > other day and found out that there was no API I could tap into without
> > resorting to reading source.  My use case was simple: for every
> > subfolder in a given folder, assign first image contained therein as
> > that folder's thumbnail image.  I feel like basic metafile API should
> > be
> > more exposed.  What is the official stance on this?  Is Nautilus to
> > remain a fairly monolithic beast, or is it due to lack of
> > time/interest?
>
> The latter. We would really appreciate if anybody out there with enough
> time for adding an IPC interface to the metafiles put some efforts into
> this.
>
> best regards,
>  Christian Neumair
>

--

------=_Part_11544_31923322.1213620677641-- From james@codenest.com Fri Jun 13 13:53:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19B37500D3 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.802 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.802 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N:!:?:?], (link: ethernet/modem), [76.96.62.24] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4PF9KK0quzcG for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1A1750063 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dRER1Z0050vyq2s5203900; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:02 +0000 Received: from CORE2 ([71.226.188.135]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dRt01Z0022vj47b3RRt03X; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:00 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NmcMrGaBj0AA:10 a=NNMBPyFHpdegciFmIyAA:9 a=w8C2fYnAO2eAtg0RO5rZEixlRYsA:4 a=1IQtyGFH-7MA:10 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=mZe7rAVFxUSsPEifDykA:9 a=js04oZaJIFFm01n9lJYenL9Tm1sA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: "James Johnston" To: Subject: "Open With" application list not sorted Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:52:50 -0000 Message-ID: <004d01c8cd5c$c5834960$5089dc20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8CD5C.C5834960" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjNXMTTN+vMV0DtSnaF5wOTM7vEtA== Content-Language: en-us X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:11:33 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:53:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8CD5C.C5834960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu, v8.04 and Nautilus 2.22.3. 1. When I right-click a file in Nautilus and select "Open With", the list of applications is not sorted. This is quite annoying as there is a long list of applications. Is this by design or a bug? 2. Also, when I start typing to search for an application in the list, it would be nice if my typing acted as a filter instead of just scrolling to the text. E.g. currently if I type "spreadsheet" this yields nothing. It would be nice if all other choices were eliminated and "OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet" was the only remaining choice. I feel this would greatly expand the usability when trying to find something in a long list of applications. Between the behavior of #1 and the not-implemented status of #2, it makes finding something to open with very difficult. Best regards, James Johnston ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C8CD5C.C5834960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m using the latest version of Ubuntu, v8.04 = and Nautilus 2.22.3.

 

1.       When I right-click a file in Nautilus and select = “Open With”, the list of applications is not sorted.  This is quite = annoying as there is a long list of applications.  Is this by design or a = bug?

 

2.       Also, when I start typing to search for an = application in the list, it would be nice if my typing acted as a filter instead of = just scrolling to the text.  E.g. currently if I type = “spreadsheet” this yields nothing.  It would be nice if all other choices were = eliminated and “OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet” was the only remaining choice.  I feel this = would greatly expand the usability when trying to find something in a long list of = applications.

 

Between the behavior of #1 and the not-implemented = status of #2, it makes finding something to open with very = difficult.

 

Best regards,

 

James Johnston

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(chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.229.67) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2008 15:45:31 +0200 Subject: Re: The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. From: Christian Neumair To: Chris Fanning In-Reply-To: <215ff4410806170009x77929decs434aea1a7d0d5180@mail.gmail.com> References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806160033x6a58ee0fmc7e9adce97e2b45d@mail.gmail.com> <1213620619.6263.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806170009x77929decs434aea1a7d0d5180@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:49:17 +0200 Message-Id: <1213710557.6271.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:49:27 -0000 Am Dienstag, den 17.06.2008, 09:09 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: > /home/user/shares/mount1 > /home/user/shares/mount2 > /home/user/shares/remote_server/mount3 > > > Listing "shares" already causes network traffic for all > mounts. Just > > mount a bunch of shares, launch a network sniffer like wireshark and > > enter "ls" in the "shares" directory. > > > not so here. 'ls' isn't creating network traffic at the 'shares' > directory or at the 'remote_server' directory, but only once I > actually 'cd' into the mountpoint. How are you mounting these shares exactly, and what SMB clients/servers do you use? Maybe we will be able to reconstruct your issue if you fully specify your environment. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From doomhammerng@gmail.com Tue Jun 17 14:58:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0859E7500D8 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:58:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11735 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.146.180] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19CMLyGdDRmh for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:58:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E15F750284 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:58:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j40so4923386wah.1 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ANOaJSWEAoLFivo1KJBT0EbvWInhu96cnHoSOH/MQkc=; b=MMUxuIIiSRip03bE7k4E2mm5KvZ+Wfc5xpXx8uqmepJci/H/TMOlpLKnusIeZaprFD TvMW5D11IBaUD6RRK46pj6MxenTiSrI3ARMKaWCrrTkajf7mkztxQAL90eTuI4SJHmGV 5rAS1OOJVVvztSQZd0Am8MRg7GyKeCpBP7/kE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=H8kWQko06NHNtmxuL1d7qq/INQdQqxP9TtSkZsYnPZQTFaq6iFohCTEaRjevN17uWh Io94PZIToOdLGWRpMI2PXd9/A1Q+ta491IRkpCXMSO45E9bACGlHYkD+tr4Yn/Z4a75B SyGM2mSf6BYdCYFb/5tcJNFUDfnqFV11gLHVA= Received: by 10.114.159.17 with SMTP id h17mr7965081wae.227.1213714706073; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.93.19 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:58:25 +0200 From: "Piotr Gaczkowski" To: yelo_3 Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:58:33 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:04 AM, yelo_3 wrote: > Hello, I really think that nautilus list view lacks of columns for > multimedia files: > > Artist, Album, Title, Track, ..., Bitrate, Duration,Resolution > > adding a column in nautilus source is very simple, but I don't know > which library is the best to be used to inpsect files for metadata and > tags. > Can you help me, so I can submit a patch? I think GStreamer could be the best choice. Or perhaps some GStreamer daemon available through DBus? -- Cheers Piotr Gaczkowski From cneumair@gnome.org Tue Jun 17 18:06:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BAD75004D for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 8700 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MjFfP+9TSG5b for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39307500C2 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 34970 invoked by uid 89); 17 Jun 2008 20:02:31 +0200 Received: from p5496d726.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) (chris@gnome-de.org@84.150.215.38) by mail.bytecamp.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2008 20:02:30 +0200 Subject: Re: "Open With" application list not sorted From: Christian Neumair To: James Johnston In-Reply-To: <004d01c8cd5c$c5834960$5089dc20$@com> References: <004d01c8cd5c$c5834960$5089dc20$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:06:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1213725975.14416.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:28 -0000 Dear James, Am Freitag, den 13.06.2008, 13:52 +0000 schrieb James Johnston: > 1. When I right-click a file in Nautilus and select “Open With”, > the list of applications is not sorted. This is quite annoying as > there is a long list of applications. Is this by design or a bug? Applications that are associated with a MIME type that pretty much match the MIME type of the file are preferred over generic ones. For instance, if you have an XML-derived bookmark format, the idea is to display all bookmark applications first, next all XML editors and at the end generic text editors. In what specific situation does this break? > 2. Also, when I start typing to search for an application in the > list, it would be nice if my typing acted as a filter instead of just > scrolling to the text. E.g. currently if I type “spreadsheet” this > yields nothing. It would be nice if all other choices were eliminated > and “OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet” was the only remaining choice. I > feel this would greatly expand the usability when trying to find > something in a long list of applications. > > > > Between the behavior of #1 and the not-implemented status of #2, it makes finding something to open with very difficult. I agree that a dynamic search where the result list is updated is way more intuitive. Feel free to come up with a patch, I would definitly integrate it. Sidenote A: The launcher selector of the "Add to Panel" dialog also does filtering, and I think that in general, live filtering is preferable over live selection. Maybe a usability expert should figure out whether the directory search in Nautilus or in the file chooser would be more intuitive with live filtering. Sidenote B: You should not have to use this dialog, really. I guess some MIME associations are not installed. Please report these bugs so that distributors and application authors can fix their applications. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From christopher.fanning@gmail.com Tue Jun 17 20:36:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF3750006 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:36:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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I would like to help, but I need to learn D-Bus and some Nautilus internals. Also, my time is very limited, but I certainly would like to help. I'm very new in this list, and I've never participated in a truely comunity project, at least not as a developer. Which methods should we use to design the new API as a team and achieve a concensus? Should this list be the main way to communicate our ideas? best regards, Dariem From christopher.fanning@gmail.com Wed Jun 18 09:33:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177F47501D8 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:33:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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From: Olaf =?iso-8859-2?Q?Fr=B1czyk?= To: Chris Fanning In-Reply-To: <215ff4410806180232j4a1c33c6sb314b27a6a81bab3@mail.gmail.com> References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806160033x6a58ee0fmc7e9adce97e2b45d@mail.gmail.com> <1213620619.6263.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806170009x77929decs434aea1a7d0d5180@mail.gmail.com> <1213710557.6271.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806171335x7f027de7gd596ec71e9362fe8@mail.gmail.com> <215ff4410806180232j4a1c33c6sb314b27a6a81bab3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:59:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1213786746.14618.31.camel@venus.local.navi.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:59:22 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 11:32 +0200, Chris Fanning wrote: > Hi, > > > The desktop box is diskless booting with live-initramfs. > > for some reason, /home isn't present in /etc/mtab (although it is in > > /proc/mounts) > > > > Reading somwhere these days I saw something about nautilus and mtab... > > I fixed my mtab problem and now the nfs mount /home shows ok. > And it also seems my nautilus problems have gone too! :) > I'm very sorry about the fuss. :( Hmm, could you tell what happened? I would like to know the exact cause of this strange nautilus behaviour. Regards, Olaf > > Thankyou for your time Christian. > Chris. > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Chris Fanning > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Christian Neumair wrote: > >> Am Dienstag, den 17.06.2008, 09:09 +0200 schrieb Chris Fanning: > >>> /home/user/shares/mount1 > >>> /home/user/shares/mount2 > >>> /home/user/shares/remote_server/mount3 > >>> > >>> > Listing "shares" already causes network traffic for all > >>> mounts. Just > >>> > mount a bunch of shares, launch a network sniffer like wireshark and > >>> > enter "ls" in the "shares" directory. > >>> > > >>> not so here. 'ls' isn't creating network traffic at the 'shares' > >>> directory or at the 'remote_server' directory, but only once I > >>> actually 'cd' into the mountpoint. > >> > >> How are you mounting these shares exactly, and what SMB clients/servers > >> do you use? Maybe we will be able to reconstruct your issue if you fully > >> specify your environment. > >> > > sure. I hope I can be of help. > > > > the desktop is ubuntu 7.10, using pam-scripts we create smb.cred and > > run through a text file ~/.shares that reads server:share > > server:share, etc > > mount -t cifs //$server/$share $mountpoint -o > > iocharset=utf8,credentials=$CRED_DIR/smb.cred > > > > both samba servers are debian etch's. > > > > The desktop box is diskless booting with live-initramfs. the root > > filesystem is a union of ram and nfs. /home is mounted onto that from > > another nfs server. > > / (union de nfs and ram) > > /home (nfs mount) > > /home/user/share/mount1 (cifs mount). > > > > for some reason, /home isn't present in /etc/mtab (although it is in > > /proc/mounts) > > > > Reading somwhere these days I saw something about nautilus and mtab, > > so thinking this might be the problem I have also tested mounting the > > shares on /tmp (because /tmp is present in mtab). > > > > /tmp/user/shares/mount1 > > /tmp/user/shares/mount2 > > /tmp/user/shares/remote_server/mount3 > > > > So, there are some cifs mounts on the /tmp directory and _no_ cifs > > mounts on my home directory (no softlinks to the shares on /tmp > > either) . Now when I open nautilus at my home, I can see network > > traffic to the samba servers!! That has taken me by suprise. It seems > > Nautilus is doing something like > > # ls -laR / > > > > After getting correct results with pcmanfs, I've also tried thunar. No > > problem there either. > > > > What's the next step? > > > > Cheers. > > Chris. > > > >> best regards, > >> Christian Neumair > >> > >> -- > >> Christian Neumair > >> > >> > > > -- > nautilus-list mailing list > nautilus-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list -- Olaf Frączyk From david@fubar.dk Wed Jun 18 19:18:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83D5750063; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:18:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7262 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E28Pykg1Yvh0; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:18:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F0A7500F1; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:18:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.12.129] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB05BD8CEED; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The more mounts I add, the slower Nautilus becomes. From: David Zeuthen To: Chris Fanning In-Reply-To: <215ff4410806180232j4a1c33c6sb314b27a6a81bab3@mail.gmail.com> References: <215ff4410806120628pbe1522ehf37a4f3c30be1de4@mail.gmail.com> <1213484076.6034.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806160033x6a58ee0fmc7e9adce97e2b45d@mail.gmail.com> <1213620619.6263.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806170009x77929decs434aea1a7d0d5180@mail.gmail.com> <1213710557.6271.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <215ff4410806171335x7f027de7gd596ec71e9362fe8@mail.gmail.com> <215ff4410806180232j4a1c33c6sb314b27a6a81bab3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: <1213816693.3288.1.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:18:58 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 11:32 +0200, Chris Fanning wrote: > Hi, > > > The desktop box is diskless booting with live-initramfs. > > for some reason, /home isn't present in /etc/mtab (although it is in > > /proc/mounts) > > > > Reading somwhere these days I saw something about nautilus and mtab... > > I fixed my mtab problem and now the nfs mount /home shows ok. > And it also seems my nautilus problems have gone too! :) > I'm very sorry about the fuss. :( Just FYI we're going to switch gvfs to use /proc/mounts on Linux for 2.24 - see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522053 for why. David From christian.kirbach@googlemail.com Thu Jun 19 04:12:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A3275010C for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:12:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 177 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.146.182] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ylzr0oZo0uR0 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C28C750004 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:12:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j40so430961wah.1 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:12:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:content-type :mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :in-reply-to:user-agent:from; bh=13Bbc9RYr6BvJkMwKfN2keo7e70gBZS3z8/DOQ8uncg=; b=sx73VvMZ/yoRAA8fzJbDIRYOZgILire/OxmO9pBSRZVFhHr4Zl5MiFSb6h8ij5qDQq WIuAurUWL1dwR2wo26uocOFifwCh88F3/Z1nIUn4Ax3NL7V8SD4WfLnvScN1A4kA3Bvy ipmvxFNTjQK82Ts6qcWakJtfjxjkigKYFz4AI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=iPf9H4KWcmp8sslRPCN9Mm1Ksn9I6KHZzeHS+qpDBnAmsBGTieLRGBa+cadtNoQeLB MRXNaTc1ry/5iGG1x44pjz3uYoeRNlB7xAJTrXKWWpj6oUNryJyS2UkzSZwd6JOdUBsU jZpgyB1YbXG9FwCE/yx1NYPzhNvSjO3rIs4X8= Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr1874180waa.25.1213848762285; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragonscale ( [201.103.31.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm158804waf.31.2008.06.18.21.12.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:12:21 -0500 To: yelo_3 , nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.50 (Linux) From: Christian Kirbach X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:12:52 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:04:55 -0500, yelo_3 wrote: > Hello, I really think that nautilus list view lacks of columns for > multimedia files: > > adding a column in nautilus source is very simple, but I don't know > which library is the best to be used to inpsect files for metadata and > tags. the nautilus file properties dialog shows such information in a dedicated tab. If in doubt look at what libs the nautilus code is using. This way you won't introduce new dependencies. -- Christian Kirbach Christian.Kirbach@googlemail.com From 84yelo3@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 21:11:58 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6691750249 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:11:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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It's getting harder than I thought it was! Do you mean that a nautilus extension can add new columns to nautilus? Maybe I'd better switch to the Totem ML.... From awalton@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 22:20:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127A57501EE for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:20:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" Sender: awalton@gmail.com To: yelo_3 Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d49a8180b327e96 Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, Cosimo Cecchi X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:20:41 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM, yelo_3 wrote: >> I believe that page is provided by Totem by an extension (see >> totem/src/totem-properties-main.c and >> totem/src/totem-properties-view.[ch]), so you might want to improve the >> features of the extensions instead of coding this in the main Nautilus. > > It's getting harder than I thought it was! > Do you mean that a nautilus extension can add new columns to nautilus? Yes, by implementing the NautilusColumnProviderIface, and providing a subclassed NautilusColumn. I would point you to the documentation, but I'm afraid there isn't much of it to be had as of yet. You can read the code here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus/trunk/libnautilus-extension/ in the nautilus-column-provider.[ch] and nautilus-column.[ch] files. -A. Walton > Maybe I'd better switch to the Totem ML.... > -- > nautilus-list mailing list > nautilus-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list > From 84yelo3@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 22:39:10 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AAA75012A for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:39:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c43286ccbe2be119 Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, Cosimo Cecchi X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:39:10 -0000 I noticed that there is no documentation :( I'm trying to code something, by now I managed to add a column, but I can't understand how to fill it with something :D In particular I don't understand what GType nautilus_column_provider_get_type(void) GList *nautilus_column_provider_get_columns(NautilusColumnProvider *provider) have to do. can you point me to an example of nautilus column extension? Thanks From awalton@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 22:50:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDE5750158 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:50:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" Sender: awalton@gmail.com To: yelo_3 Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ade9e2b11e1d0754 Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, Cosimo Cecchi X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:50:53 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:39 PM, yelo_3 wrote: > I noticed that there is no documentation :( I'm trying to code > something, by now I managed to add a column, but I can't understand > how to fill it with something :D > > In particular I don't understand what > GType nautilus_column_provider_get_type(void) > GList *nautilus_column_provider_get_columns(NautilusColumnProvider *provider) > have to do. > > can you point me to an example of nautilus column extension? http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus-vcs/trunk/src/nautilus-vcs.c?revision=13&view=markup -A. Walton > Thanks > From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 22:53:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5960B7500C0 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:53:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.13.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z32sm858374hub.18.2008.06.19.15.52.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Cosimo Cecchi To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:52:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:53:11 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 00:39 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > I noticed that there is no documentation :( I'm trying to code > something, by now I managed to add a column, but I can't understand > how to fill it with something :D > > In particular I don't understand what > GType nautilus_column_provider_get_type(void) > GList *nautilus_column_provider_get_columns(NautilusColumnProvider *provider) > have to do. NautilusColumnProvider is an interface that the extension has to implement in order to add new columns. This means that in your extension you create a NautilusColumnProvider subclass, create some new columns with nautilus_column_new () and export them by implementing the nautilus_column_provider_get_columns () method in your custom subclass. > can you point me to an example of nautilus column extension? By googling a bit I found this [1]. Anyway, you can look at any extension for an example of how providers usually work, as the above mechanism is the same for any provider. [1] http://code.google.com/p/gvcs-client/source/browse/trunk/nautilus-svn/src/nautilus-svn.c -- Cosimo From 84yelo3@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 23:00:46 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B13B750158 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:00:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 331 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.134.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q4KwvpCSxBhc for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:00:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608F8750168 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:00:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so349255mue.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:00:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qYwHtJDBKudZS5TBTX9bBJS/p6QdSv+ptMJbIGryraM=; b=CR24tpysAtH27NESFpg6MLCybZ6CH2X2eqnbiNhKaRrzSngW9QFWDb7gOSTQCIsg8P umOSesJEzaVy3RjandL75dfeixuPbYEjxQR3OaaN0fQ4CLKVeufebAN1nuG0iPrqlZ6k 4yfT4ju8cBTuUF1yBs/uUfrjAxbcJf68KdMLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Brb/3DbqDzwafzec8HS5b62rlaUEFdNdc9kPUgPtK7coicVtvAAabjpWBGzBiyU42B PK1tXKZlWmWSXR2a266WTj6URSmP2L8aRDoTCXTbLls54oip3aL9KcZWEFB65Yh7nxce kbvQ9iIRjmD10pOmpCaSIwbbDpawIE7iln3bg= Received: by 10.103.215.4 with SMTP id s4mr596543muq.13.1213916414995; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:00:14 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Cosimo Cecchi" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7e00e5add4e9ff4 Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:00:46 -0000 Well I've understood that I must add columns in this way: nautilus_column_new(ID, ATTRIBUTE, LABEL, DESCRIPTION); what scares me is that ATTRIBUTE must be understood by get_string_attribute(NautilusFileInfo* file, const char* ATTRIBUTE) I see that there is a add_string_attribute(NautilusFileInfo *file, const char *attribute_name, const char *value) So it should be that someone must call this function when listing the files inside a directory. Where does this happen? Thank you very much for your help! I hope I will release this patch thanks to you! From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 23:17:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4A17500C0 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:17:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.13.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o38sm853310hub.43.2008.06.19.16.16.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Cosimo Cecchi To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:16:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:17:01 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 01:00 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > Well I've understood that I must add columns in this way: > nautilus_column_new(ID, ATTRIBUTE, LABEL, DESCRIPTION); > > what scares me is that ATTRIBUTE must be understood by > get_string_attribute(NautilusFileInfo* file, const char* ATTRIBUTE) > I see that there is a add_string_attribute(NautilusFileInfo *file, > const char *attribute_name, const char *value) > So it should be that someone must call this function when listing the > files inside a directory. Where does this happen? You can add custom attributes to files with the NautilusInfoProvider interface. I found this tutorial [1] which is outdated for some parts, but it's still a good start for wrting Nautilus extensions, and it has an example of creating a column listing custom attributes which should be exactly what you are trying to do :) [1] http://taschenorakel.de/svn/repos/bulldozer/trunk/documentation/NautilusExtensions.html -- Cosimo From 84yelo3@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 23:29:03 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAD2750066 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:29:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 336 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.134.186] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78kAy6XSibXg for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:28:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF817500C8 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:28:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so351825mue.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=HhmRi7TFiDxrRf3JG4Ysz0nSF+x4ZAcpVMidDxRNcN8=; b=MRvMLQAb1en/aLeAxJ/q5T7B0Cr88SM+O+rmbC75jW9DozGYltbIX8a/Y9J1RHjmkL MiMRIOUdfWgflGArClJQ4rGVFnQaj2zDWBx/i/gkqyB9wMqWhmILt/tYVO99y43DhyFi 7DDFcGecvvptOsfVNJHvMIg2PyUKyKCOZEMss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=vOOl4f7hZlUOVMdokqsof9HZBZWrbNU7IoL/6kgTBRgfYWoz/ikEWOPbBVTy7hwaVZ K9pvUm+O85buZYpjZYJ6V3C+L3hJnC5uJCseYFKvsxas5PrdDM2uEV6C/jyAqR/AIEPW 82ur0QtN5EXADMcgtmJeeXfIHHGptjzMa0KS4= Received: by 10.103.217.5 with SMTP id u5mr599465muq.11.1213918112787; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:28:32 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Cosimo Cecchi" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> X-Google-Sender-Auth: fb17ec229b82192f Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:29:03 -0000 thanks for the link it is really useful. I will look into it and let you soon. bye! From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 00:57:02 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA35D7501F3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:57:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 351 hrs), (distance 17, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.134.188] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wJ8UwMQjomxc for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:56:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89D0750128 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so359650mue.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=2x34vtC62n98nJNhFDGeu4/FD8jK1+h+k0toV1Upiic=; b=i07KjM11dGmY7YHX2Oav5l0UMlJSsGArVbO9j02x4H40U6NqQD/4XRz0aS315DzoKj BbbzM7lXhrqZ/T7yl6GcmqJi+yainrFxqDkULI6paWpNzRhRNqjB+fCf6xGYtTU+It9I KQxMsPYnvSPInNZtv1JlSdz7d1qPuGTW6QtVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Ae1ZPpfGenreIOtq7RmKo1aVWr/qE+xHLScyxhxO+sx0wM5HbBo5iR3zNC7c00QgZl bDbMMTJrkyaQ9mbWFskgMCj8KRozfOpN9SnG6qla0gTxi752Dmtbg6/J7yH/nu4YhVkX llfYFTkeRmHwRcJKsdhR2+uCgUNiEpZPGyf3w= Received: by 10.103.161.16 with SMTP id n16mr603499muo.134.1213923411416; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:56:51 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Cosimo Cecchi" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9c2c08254882e6d Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:57:02 -0000 I've understood how to fill in file data thanks to the suggestion by Cosimo. Now I will have to understand how to extract metadata from files! I will investigate if totem has a function to this. in the mean time do any of you have an idea of how extracting metadata? thanks From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 10:19:15 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B76750063 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:19:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JKzeFDAuRoGH for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:19:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51401750241 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:19:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so554729ywh.63 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:18:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=OIyvW6ti968JDGBi7KkXPwxJM6ISpwUheTugflY1K94=; b=YfdJbx/V0cTkDz7WLuKSXTOyeOcXng+V1ChkxDOfWbTGsxqS9ZqUTBrQN/4uA7JpBS MIEw8JmvNijbOxmo+vFVPbwkiohdqrN86var9OFCqbjpticGw7Q12uVN/HWeizgxToM0 yEl+C2b/YboaaYtjeLliimel6foYwI0AEamNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZHT+SoODCn2iQOGFs2axbA7ng8K53sdJQN6JSABvlT3KnMqqFuL4V5e7h5aM5JWxA2 gL1hXC+JXVPBuJYehUl46QX/ZdvhxkqDUQnBRcu91kjvfYBI5kkmylxnnQPgF2da1Kgb vcGPDo4pAHpUacj9jlzD32qjik3vh9iHA3Dzk= Received: by 10.103.17.10 with SMTP id u10mr723385mui.76.1213957138234; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:18:58 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Cosimo Cecchi" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4bd6acf7dab1d856 Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:19:16 -0000 I'm trying to have a look at gstreamer, but the gstreamer world is quite hard, and I don't know it. I just guess that I need some function that returns a GstTagList* I know that gstreamer works with pipelines, so I need to build a pipeline that extracts metatags... From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 10:42:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A6A750494 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.13.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm2813231huc.21.2008.06.20.03.36.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Cosimo Cecchi To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:36:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" , Bastien Nocera X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:42:45 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 12:18 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > I'm trying to have a look at gstreamer, but the gstreamer world is > quite hard, and I don't know it. > I just guess that I need some function that returns a GstTagList* > I know that gstreamer works with pipelines, so I need to build a > pipeline that extracts metatags... I don't know GStreamer as well, so I can't help you here. But if you're willing to implement this in the Totem extension, it might be that those properties are already queried to GStreamer from Totem itself, so it might be easier to get those. CC-ing Bastien (Totem maintainer) to this thread. -- Cosimo From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jun 20 10:51:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9067175028B; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:51:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.122 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.122 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.323, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W3:.:?:?] (up: 1549 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [195.10.223.155] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ok7YLxgL81kJ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:51:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk [195.10.223.155]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7527502D5; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:44:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (cpc4-glfd1-0-0-cust751.glfd.cable.ntl.com [86.16.126.240]) by bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739AB1C3BAC6; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Bastien Nocera To: Cosimo Cecchi In-Reply-To: <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191411w625bbdb2mec67a192860574a6@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:44:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Kirbach , nautilus-list@gnome.org, "A. Walton" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:51:58 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 12:36 +0200, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 12:18 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > > I'm trying to have a look at gstreamer, but the gstreamer world is > > quite hard, and I don't know it. > > I just guess that I need some function that returns a GstTagList* > > I know that gstreamer works with pipelines, so I need to build a > > pipeline that extracts metatags... > > I don't know GStreamer as well, so I can't help you here. But if you're > willing to implement this in the Totem extension, it might be that those > properties are already queried to GStreamer from Totem itself, so it > might be easier to get those. > > CC-ing Bastien (Totem maintainer) to this thread. I'd be in favour of applications above storing the metadata as xattrs, rather than having nautilus read the tags for each file every time. Otherwise nautilus won't survive opening a lot of Music directories, including mine :) From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 14:11:50 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82C75002E for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:11:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11696 hrs), (distance 16, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NlOhjlW6MYGl for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8608E7502E6 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so583822ywh.63 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:11:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=xn4WxndYgtaiIAS/VCixovfvczMSYBSggMay3NOYcck=; b=q+O4DGqGEOjssvqqNhhl9sVX7LqLyHF4KCCoxIXiPzAsXx1VReAbymgMcZ8fo+fXnL aKon0n6Spn1sf1n5p9AJi08XAkvXLCM+sZMRUxaaN8LuxxriCpaM5DRdX/0/8rpaqV0f g0LKTd36AN69SC+Ow55TMkDmPbG7BSqcLH2Kk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=HkHUiviELt9P+1R5cuYnlgig3T9UTD8qo+itiu+utYUDfxZeJ9gwWC2paQ5w6LQZDZ dEZwXRqhojquASfKs8htsOstAYtx1ZSpXgi4SqQV2bPa93DNxzC8PMagv+uVzEj7rIDA E6zQKm2bukM1VNOKmxJMgkJdVTV91HkZ+PXXU= Received: by 10.103.221.13 with SMTP id y13mr784157muq.41.1213971099453; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:11:39 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Bastien Nocera" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2312615212bd947a Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:11:50 -0000 I also think that querying gstreamer for tags is quite a "heavy" operation (even it is done asynchronously). But the first time this must be done, and then results cached into xattrs, like Bastien suggested! Everything is getting more difficult than I initially thought Anyway I think that totem should export an interface to extract tags (just because totem can use either xine or gstreamer, and it is stupid to implement an extension for gstreamer and one for xine, totem should abstract it, if it doesn't do it yet) From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jun 20 14:16:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F12F7501C1; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.122 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.122 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.323, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W3:.:?:?] (up: 1558 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [195.10.223.155] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mbeLiidRLgK7; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk [195.10.223.155]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910B6750286; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (cpc4-glfd1-0-0-cust751.glfd.cable.ntl.com [86.16.126.240]) by bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5154E1C3BAC7; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Bastien Nocera To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191539k2528c473w36b1902b6cd22382@mail.gmail.com> <1213915974.13110.10.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191600x20f649d1m5ab785bcc342de6@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:16:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1213971412.2746.95.camel@cookie.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:56 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 16:11 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > I also think that querying gstreamer for tags is quite a "heavy" > operation (even it is done asynchronously). But the first time this > must be done, and then results cached into xattrs, like Bastien > suggested! > Everything is getting more difficult than I initially thought > > Anyway I think that totem should export an interface to extract tags > (just because totem can use either xine or gstreamer, and it is stupid > to implement an extension for gstreamer and one for xine, totem should > abstract it, if it doesn't do it yet) It's the same API for both, and there's the totem-video-indexer available which Beagle uses to index songs and videos. From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 14:18:26 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8A47501D9 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:18:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:18:26 -0000 that's great! I will have a look at the video-indexer this evening. From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 18:12:50 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEC575017F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:12:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11736 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UsCL8saMydRR for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E284C7500E3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so608385ywh.63 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:12:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=FbYWfPMNumvImXc7upMlN1g0YRi7l5bgotzmSKj4bRI=; b=A1yypNSitBw77+Mq8FWtUixoYeocxsbBN0jOg0NnyI5rIok9JTWjj6qrhILu9vsITz 99paqeK9Ns9rzIkptxBIAZuRDz1/okMsJeGnMjIjj0ujOoZ+6xXO20P0wNZHvRmYAZrZ JVQ9atQneoZkKSgbqvoDqsC78lfErZP1if4To= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Wo8rknyb55q47RGHG34JaOtEwVBFagrIifbRBlo9JO6Wj+B6ovUJAB8+mzZYITgsn9 l+kgMnHBvQ37lys0x/djaMQbaJBgV35zGzP09OAQxr6QsHCkwomYH24Og/JW+GvP652t gtZrv2lgu1WvE+bzu4FgGstfQ8Xb5AibfZ4Aw= Received: by 10.103.224.17 with SMTP id b17mr852072mur.16.1213985562269; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806201112v2ad9f9abp663ddb3affa50a45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:12:42 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Bastien Nocera" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <641322f90806200718h23331920y327b2d1abdaa2a4c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> <1213971412.2746.95.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200718h23331920y327b2d1abdaa2a4c@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 49b5ba7d485905d9 Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:12:51 -0000 There's something I cannot understand: to extract metadata I need to use the "BaconVideoWidget" interface from the file "bacon-video-widget.h". unfortunately this file is not included in any library(-dev) (at least in ubuntu). So when I start nautilus, it cannot find the dynamic library to call for instance "bacon_video_widget_new" I think this means that I have to compile all the *.c bacon libraries together with the extension. I don't think this is a good idea since it would mean to create two extensions, one for gstreamer and one for xine... I'm stuck now, sorry I don't have enough experience From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 22:05:47 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AE6750096 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:05:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_TP=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 562 hrs), (distance 19, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.134.184] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1+2KHojU8Sw for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:05:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5857500BE for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:05:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so490506mue.3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=hUAXJ+urEQ8LkEtKWq0N+4tuE/W8mEdJXRC5jz07haQ=; b=X2WbTRP+xQHI701Px9GG9Sw+ILTADbeJu+bKwms/Es4PUcwGhIGbOWi7/ZeWc2pTAX joEn8hjUHotjlnnf1o8X1iBB5aeOOqtYD051PsADkKdZudXBUX6Lk+ADWxTDEyOCxz/K r3wSS/3SBLEJzBiTWc7cFZG/BzJ2WMcm+L7IA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=AsQV2QMXp2tuoJIcilKECRdzTWt/Fgm2YSjjhaEsInfS0YA0+XlpJDZRFm3M+3brNb oEvVndVkFaInWygGXJiiOMjf4wS8YxwRj8pI9Y8pyWHiqn9YNrGvr+rTahr5uYtx80SH 569uY8HYeOrMiGZ2NvtaF4I8UGQu0lBLREi3w= Received: by 10.103.12.8 with SMTP id p8mr894395mui.102.1213999538527; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806201505hc5a075ej1734a155a17f8a82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:05:38 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: auto emblems for user XDG directories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_543_7143577.1213999538514" X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac1e3c61b8a14010 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:05:47 -0000 ------=_Part_543_7143577.1213999538514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hello, I'm writing an extension that automatically adds emblems to user XDG directories (Documents, Music...) I've quite finished my work, but something strange happens whenever I launch nautilus for the first time. the extension is a nautilus-info-provider that does these things: 1. tests if the file is a directory 2. if so tests if the path is equal to the one provided by g_get_user_special_dir() for each iser XDG dir 3. if so it selects the correct emblems and adds it to the NautilusFileInfo This is my problem: when I re-launch nautilus the following things are done: 1. the desktop directory is scanned 2. the home directory is scanned BUT XDG directories in my home are not passed to my extension: only other dirs: to make things more clear: - $HOME/Documents is not passed - $HOME/source is instead passed if I move back and forward or reopen the home directory XDG dirs are not passed again if I hit REFRESH it works, and emblems are added. I think this is not the correct behaviour. 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([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tUqBTqWCV5W2; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:13:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk [195.10.223.155]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D317E75000B; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (cpc4-glfd1-0-0-cust751.glfd.cable.ntl.com [86.16.126.240]) by bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9EA1C3BAC6; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Bastien Nocera To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806201112v2ad9f9abp663ddb3affa50a45@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <1213917405.13110.13.camel@pluto> <641322f90806191628x5a0edc06u490fc9c1d2398082@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> <1213971412.2746.95.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200718h23331920y327b2d1abdaa2a4c@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806201112v2ad9f9abp663ddb3affa50a45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:13:05 +0100 Message-Id: <1213999985.2746.118.camel@cookie.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:13:10 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 20:12 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > There's something I cannot understand: to extract metadata I need to > use the "BaconVideoWidget" interface from the file > "bacon-video-widget.h". unfortunately this file is not included in any > library(-dev) (at least in ubuntu). So when I start nautilus, it > cannot find the dynamic library to call for instance > "bacon_video_widget_new" It's not a public library. > I think this means that I have to compile all the *.c bacon libraries > together with the extension. I don't think this is a good idea since > it would mean to create two extensions, one for gstreamer and one for > xine... > I'm stuck now, sorry I don't have enough experience Use the output from totem-video-indexer. All the distributions ship it in their default totem installation. Cheers From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 22:22:33 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68F4750163 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:22:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 565 hrs), (distance 19, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.134.190] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QvEXdYHdLGMB for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43354750107 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:22:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so492204mue.3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:22:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=bXrQshbWvXG2WFbbxOebXMbpeEM0hkTuX2ljIVueLMA=; b=BV+pSvk6FpTcHoiMl06qwFn9CA64Y/W5emheaDQ1pv9JCQVMwQwcE9UVq6IcpvjWjK VAw9CARDqfALTZrKWT/NZ2AKQZ3AWWAa2JwExZE+bMsaG6Lm3whGj7h9x1NY1JDbJPZd i0wRoiPWk7203u0IZgUWkqTghlP95oH/3wQHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=isoqQ9wqARop7Eyyugyzz2aQ3pfR74La5qeqPwc+XCk3AIMj/3NDdM/I49CeH33KB0 J/+VB68mChlPs887JjD/8jbIISmLqD9cdGPC6jYEUx4ZLwMqZQfYytN3jH9fc7/sMBub aUfkOhgXBaopScO7hXzvL1vUqusBKt4ldbiO4= Received: by 10.103.223.20 with SMTP id a20mr896587mur.86.1214000546005; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.202.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <641322f90806201522x47a4ae76y83920acb4e15b43f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:25 +0200 From: yelo_3 Sender: 84yelo3@gmail.com To: "Bastien Nocera" Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view In-Reply-To: <1213999985.2746.118.camel@cookie.hadess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> <1213971412.2746.95.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200718h23331920y327b2d1abdaa2a4c@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806201112v2ad9f9abp663ddb3affa50a45@mail.gmail.com> <1213999985.2746.118.camel@cookie.hadess.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5529a1f43011d2f3 Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:22:34 -0000 Ok I will use it, sorry if I didn't understand it before. a question: can totem-video-indexer be teached to write xattrs to files, when launched with a particular switch? or do you think that my extension should parse the output and then write xattrs by itself? Thanks. From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jun 20 22:28:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3337D7501F4; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:28:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.121 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.322, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W3:.:?:?] (up: 1578 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [195.10.223.155] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uAewfltxOeKl; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk [195.10.223.155]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A631D750203; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (cpc4-glfd1-0-0-cust751.glfd.cable.ntl.com [86.16.126.240]) by bungle.evilgeniuses.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A325A1C3BAC6; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Bastien Nocera To: yelo_3 In-Reply-To: <641322f90806201522x47a4ae76y83920acb4e15b43f@mail.gmail.com> References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806191756k48adab46w32d71c222efad04b@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806200318w2091bee1s9a7f7420a04fb0fc@mail.gmail.com> <1213958202.6339.8.camel@pluto> <1213958672.2746.91.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200711xd0a2be4n253905b29d778af3@mail.gmail.com> <1213971412.2746.95.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806200718h23331920y327b2d1abdaa2a4c@mail.gmail.com> <641322f90806201112v2ad9f9abp663ddb3affa50a45@mail.gmail.com> <1213999985.2746.118.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <641322f90806201522x47a4ae76y83920acb4e15b43f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:28:56 +0100 Message-Id: <1214000936.2746.128.camel@cookie.hadess.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Kirbach , "A. Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:28:58 -0000 On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 00:22 +0200, yelo_3 wrote: > Ok I will use it, sorry if I didn't understand it before. > a question: can totem-video-indexer be teached to write xattrs to > files, when launched with a particular switch? > or do you think that my extension should parse the output and then > write xattrs by itself? > Thanks. Up to you. If you can make the code nicely fitting in with the current one, and make sure you use GIO to manipulate the xattrs, I'd be happy to add the ability to totem-video-indexer. What I was mentioning was: - Rhythmbox reading the tags, and writing the xattrs - The nautilus view reading from those xattrs You seem to be completely gone on a tagent which isn't what I advised. If you want to make totem-video-indexer write the xattrs, what are you going to use to get the indexer called? From 84yelo3@gmail.com Fri Jun 20 22:48:07 2008 Return-Path: <84yelo3@gmail.com> X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5387F75000B for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:48:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" , nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:48:07 -0000 > What I was mentioning was: > - Rhythmbox reading the tags, and writing the xattrs > - The nautilus view reading from those xattrs If I go this way, I think there are 2 problems: 1. no tags if rhtyhmbox is not used / not launched / not having *all* music files of your HDD in its library 2. no tags for video files > You seem to be completely gone on a tagent which isn't what I advised. > If you want to make totem-video-indexer write the xattrs, what are you > going to use to get the indexer called? If I go this way I could do: 1. test if a file has xattrs 2. if not, spawn asynchronously totem-video-indexer for each file and fill nautilus columns using the asynchronous methods Anyway both approaches have a problem: if the user changes the tags, they are not automatically written to xattrs of course. This might mean that the best way is to not cache tags in xattrs... From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Thu Jun 19 07:39:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65477501BC for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:39:02 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.13.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p27sm197424hub.53.2008.06.19.00.36.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multimedia columns in list view From: Cosimo Cecchi To: Christian Kirbach In-Reply-To: References: <641322f90806111904u58f10caev5148da482594ec52@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:36:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1213861014.6232.14.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:10:12 +0000 Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:39:03 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:12 -0500, Christian Kirbach wrote: > the nautilus file properties dialog shows such information in a dedicated > tab. > If in doubt look at what libs the nautilus code is using. This way you > won't > introduce new dependencies. I believe that page is provided by Totem by an extension (see totem/src/totem-properties-main.c and totem/src/totem-properties-view.[ch]), so you might want to improve the features of the extensions instead of coding this in the main Nautilus. -- Cosimo From cneumair@gnome.org Thu Jun 26 22:05:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C53B750143 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:05:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.74 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 6.x (1) (up: 10899 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [212.204.60.9] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7rKrA8qFFs7C for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FB0750031 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:05:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 6840 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jun 2008 00:01:36 +0200 Received: from p5496f5e8.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.123.112?) 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From: Christian Neumair To: michael.meeks@novell.com In-Reply-To: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:05:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:05:38 -0000 Dear Michael, Am Dienstag, den 24.06.2008, 22:08 +0100 schrieb Michael Meeks: > Quick review appreciated for a patch to support system templates > (from) /usr/share/templates in the same way that KDE does  Thanks for your efforts. I am mostly fine with the patch, but I have a few minor comments: How does KDE sort the menu items? IMO it would make sense to merge all the template sources (including subdirectories), and then sort the items by display name. I wonder why you migrated the template parameters to textual URIs. Using GFiles and NautilusFiles rather than URI strings is a Nautilus convention we should stick to. g_str_has_suffix() would also look more readable for detecting a ".desktop" suffix in add_template_to_templates_menus(). I agree that the g_return_if_fail (nautilus_file_is_local (source)); call should vanish. Regarding the get_template_source_if_valid(), you should use g_ascii_strncasecmp() for the desktop file type check, and ensure that it is not NULL before strcmp'ing it. You also seem to return the .desktop file's URI if it is not a link, instead of returning NULL. This looks wrong. > [ Incidentally - if it is more widely used - should it not be one slot > higher up than "Add Launcher" in the right-click context menu ? ] You mean it should be at the top, above "New Folder"? I often created new folders, but almost never new documents. best regards, Christian Neumair -- Christian Neumair From david@fubar.dk Fri Jun 27 00:11:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A861475008C; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:11:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7754 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JSuowLVRgqlx; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:11:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0AA7500E8; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:11:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D50D8CC47; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: David Zeuthen To: Christian Neumair In-Reply-To: <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:10:55 -0400 Message-Id: <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 (2.23.4-2.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson , michael.meeks@novell.com X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:11:21 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 00:05 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > Dear Michael, > > Am Dienstag, den 24.06.2008, 22:08 +0100 schrieb Michael Meeks: > > Quick review appreciated for a patch to support system templates > > (from) /usr/share/templates in the same way that KDE does JFYI, I seem to remember Alex being unhappy about such an approach http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.nautilus/3745 and I tend to agree. What problem are you trying to solve Michael? David From cbraid@gmail.com Fri Jun 27 02:28:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB8875006E for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:28:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.028 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10611 hrs), (distance 16, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.232] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79qTp6cfSEJB for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:28:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED77750113 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:28:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so150900wra.27 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ssx6wjtAicJUzNmo8gBC4TxWWiTGwcfSin2exHOwL8A=; b=hq2IBA+Tu87ZDDGDHnHvWLPZB1IzdeoVuuzi5TE/ldhPm7DgyJsaz/r6j/5OYbDkI+ w4z/cFJNM2kS+X9vRbBdCLcYT4WKTei/hFPvC7F7EEmrQ6+BHPnkI5nCw+vjJpxQxX2i uZptyBp6E539wybCtFImr/mNUAtiqY0H4RT4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=Ot32/JjftwvuPS0dRl+ihw8BNvUJZS02/PsP/H5tl6DsqjEb13D/fcBVnSGNVDlcLC dMJHqyl898ZKAFSqboD/wSJktUwv87Tsi29G77niLAuVQuw46ZQGXaLSUfVGHpjHbQdy mthzs7HykCWUog9bxkRTWcIJeOhdDFCAP/nTM= Received: by 10.90.69.15 with SMTP id r15mr870368aga.12.1214533719610; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.89.18 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:28:39 +1000 From: "Cameron Braid" Sender: cbraid@gmail.com To: nautilus-list Subject: Idea - make location nav buttons into drop targets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17956_24042376.1214533719604" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4ddc9ea6d47e5b50 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:28:46 -0000 ------=_Part_17956_24042376.1214533719604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I am new to this forum, so I am not sure what the etiquette is for requesting new features, so I'll just dive in with my idea, and you can feel free to point me in the right direction :) I often find myself needing to move a file to a parent folder, and unless I already have the folders sidebar open, this isn't a straightforward step. However, most of the time, the parent folder is visible as a location navigation button - so my idea is to make these buttons drop targets so I can drag and drop a file there. Ideally, you could also right click on these location buttons and the context menu would be the same as if you right clicked on a folder. Also, as a side comment - how come the right click context menu for a folder in the folders side bar is different from the one in the right panel ? They both act on a 'folder' so, why can't they both perform the same commands ? Regards Cameron ------=_Part_17956_24042376.1214533719604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I am new to this forum, so I am not sure what the etiquette is for requesting new features, so I'll just dive in with my idea, and you can feel free to point me in the right direction :)

I often find myself needing to move a file to a parent folder, and unless I already have the folders sidebar open, this isn't a straightforward step. However, most of the time, the parent folder is visible as a location navigation button - so my idea is to make these buttons drop targets so I can drag and drop a file there.  Ideally, you could also right click on these location buttons and the context menu would be the same as if you right clicked on a folder.

Also, as a side comment - how come the right click context menu for a folder in the folders side bar is different from the one in the right panel ?  They both act on a 'folder' so, why can't they both perform the same commands ?

Regards

Cameron
------=_Part_17956_24042376.1214533719604-- From nbenitezl@gmail.com Fri Jun 27 07:42:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F07500A6 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:42:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 2019 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.156] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HFF9jN-DnkEa for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:42:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C196275016C for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:42:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so198032fgb.33 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:42:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=bZzEQRmlOT+86AgMcXXdziwvLfSJBxpqHa+k873Id/M=; b=Lhl/tsUgQAnYazbXgEdUMjqlq4t7fyDwIasG3zqdMoBRueTZ+I1V5EFfMc+njKda43 9tnkkBZUaUXf7/4HDytA+f2NA5a2wqJZgkZsXxv8MLNACwPfbhiecS22gMQfEfxnWeWI mqxUszX1dzLskESGTtXk3KkOIwz6G4ZiBBIrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=M0IF4TsfEEXRcvq4KLPBC4ncIyBjBDIbuOsBVGoVTrOEOWjgM5Y3IEqrgPj+IDuzu2 9ZR+5+UV5EpAm6GrgQxYduXckP46x0flEgoWygU/BMgP0xCk8HJRkxzpKbOIcUJGITJX 2s2vYet9qamjSbmBwwpR2v+zp4U0emdO7VYnc= Received: by 10.86.27.19 with SMTP id a19mr1364125fga.56.1214552541280; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.80.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:42:21 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nelson_Ben=EDtez_Le=F3n?=" To: Nautilus Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?[PATCH]_=96_double-click_doesn't_open_half-shown_items?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_12884_16232777.1214552541297" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:42:37 -0000 ------=_Part_12884_16232777.1214552541297 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12885_19752589.1214552541297" ------=_Part_12885_19752589.1214552541297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've posted a new patch for this bug, see bugzilla bug[1] for more info, thanks to jared moore for testing... [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347423 ------=_Part_12885_19752589.1214552541297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've posted a new patch for this bug, see bugzilla bug[1] for more info, thanks to jared moore for testing...

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347423
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(up: 2021 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.153] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H2RrJHjByUqU for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B4F7500F2 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:50:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so199414fgb.33 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:50:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=vKqgOxH0iI7zIwy2DlobNgmbzP21z/tWd++Ai2Jzyl4=; b=S+pcl+UpTiKd7isCmrUeNBLt5695yjT2LJ4wgS+4LOUsAUfREhuIuZH2tn6B/gk5Ql 1P2i9PBFrJx1xvXBaYx7t/zKf5pWbq57/AkjSNnwywAG3VjUaizwlUSw+PltzjwBJVO5 cuRG9JStGpq4LqrmncNV2cSZdT9iM+lvJ7Gds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=puHjZexH09okUfAzvcmusr2MPthULHsz7Yq7I5QYo3v02Lwjv7OTarylUt8xC1ZzWS jOyg2GVw+M1nRy2/Ag9yDScq4OiKPHlyKqexS5wDjZkdEOeozvfLOJ3SKOe+tEZRh+Gb r2DV/iMMfCUVjRCaBeKx+FW7WdetY/hCNdu8c= Received: by 10.86.71.1 with SMTP id t1mr1400796fga.36.1214553022181; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.80.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:50:22 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nelson_Ben=EDtez_Le=F3n?=" To: Nautilus Subject: [PATCH] - deleting an item moves the focus wrongly when using the icon view MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_12921_13660508.1214553022202" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:50:33 -0000 ------=_Part_12921_13660508.1214553022202 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12922_31403602.1214553022202" ------=_Part_12922_31403602.1214553022202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've posted a patch to fix this keyboard nav issue[1]. [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540107 ------=_Part_12922_31403602.1214553022202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've posted a patch to fix this keyboard nav issue[1].

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540107
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[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378202
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I would like to be able to move buttons from the nautilus tool-bars into the menu-bar. This is possible in firefox, thunderbird, and also in Windows Explorer.

Is there any chance of this being implemented for nautilus / gnome?

I apologise if this is the wrong place to raise this. If so, I would appreciate a pointer to where I might pursue this.

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Patrick Byrne ------=_Part_2622_295427.1214655110326-- From ivze@bk.ru Mon Jun 23 21:03:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D03750084 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:03:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.58 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.58 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (firewall!) (up: 2031 hrs), (distance 26, link: ethernet/modem), [194.67.23.200] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L3T1zbYcRl1b for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx34.mail.ru (mx34.mail.ru [194.67.23.200]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49439750078 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:03:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [195.189.80.54] (port=32666 helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1KAtBr-000Gqj-00 for nautilus-list@gnome.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:03:07 +0400 Message-ID: <48600F8A.7060903@bk.ru> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:03:06 +0400 From: ZelinskiyIS User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: Little bug with table entry sorting. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:03:15 -0000 Good time, nautilus dev-s! I have nothing, but a little bug to describe. When one, using nautilus, tries to sort files by date and presses on the button above the respecting column, the files get sorted in some unpredictable order, not in historic one. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 amd64 linux distribtion and Russian localisation. I strongly hope, the message will be helpful. (mymail - ivze<(a)_>bkru) ZelinskiyIS From michael.meeks@novell.com Tue Jun 24 21:11:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFA87501B7; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:11:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.137, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 460 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [195.135.221.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xg+5wPm6i8Sn; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:10:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emea5-mh.id5.novell.com (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B275015F; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] ([149.44.162.75]) by emea5-mh.id5.novell.com with ESMTP (TLS encrypted); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:10:54 +0200 Subject: templates patch ... From: Michael Meeks To: cneumair@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk" Organization: Novell, Inc. Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:08:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:52 +0000 Cc: nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.meeks@novell.com List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:11:05 -0000 --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, Quick review appreciated for a patch to support system templates (from) /usr/share/templates in the same way that KDE does: improving cross-desktop interop, and of course improving our (somewhat lame) "Create Document" template stuff - at least making it easy to configure to do something useful by default. I believe in the past people were happy for me to commit to HEAD, but ;-) times and management change etc. I guess. [ Incidentally - if it is more widely used - should it not be one slot higher up than "Add Launcher" in the right-click context menu ? ] I attach the patch, and a few sample test .desktop files I tested it with [ primed for OpenSUSE admittedly, some tweakage necessary for other apps ]. My URI manipulation stuff is shaky no doubt - input appreciated; and I hate to write new code - eg. the OnlyShowIn thing makes me nervous: why is that not pre-existing & sharable ? [ or is it ? :-]. HTH, Michael. -- michael.meeks@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Description: templates patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=nautilus-templates.diff Content-Type: text/x-patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit diff -u -r -x Makefile -x '*.o' -x .libs pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.c nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.c --- pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.c 2008-03-29 09:40:43.000000000 +0000 +++ nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.c 2008-06-24 20:47:54.000000000 +0100 @@ -491,38 +491,27 @@ char * nautilus_get_home_directory_uri (void) { - return g_filename_to_uri (g_get_home_dir (), NULL, NULL); + return g_filename_to_uri (g_get_home_dir (), NULL, NULL); } - -gboolean -nautilus_should_use_templates_directory (void) +static char * +nautilus_get_templates_directory (void) { char *dir; - gboolean res; dir = nautilus_get_xdg_dir ("TEMPLATES"); - res = strcmp (dir, g_get_home_dir ()) != 0; - g_free (dir); - return res; + if (strcmp (dir, g_get_home_dir ()) != 0) { + return dir; + } else { + g_free (dir); + return NULL; + } } char * -nautilus_get_templates_directory (void) -{ - return nautilus_get_xdg_dir ("TEMPLATES"); -} - -void -nautilus_create_templates_directory (void) +nautilus_get_system_templates_directory_uri (void) { - char *dir; - - dir = nautilus_get_templates_directory (); - if (!g_file_test (dir, G_FILE_TEST_EXISTS)) { - mkdir (dir, DEFAULT_NAUTILUS_DIRECTORY_MODE); - } - g_free (dir); + return g_filename_to_uri (DATADIR "/templates", NULL, NULL); } char * diff -u -r -x Makefile -x '*.o' -x .libs pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.h nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.h --- pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.h 2008-03-29 09:40:43.000000000 +0000 +++ nautilus-2.22.2/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file-utilities.h 2008-06-24 20:47:54.000000000 +0100 @@ -53,10 +53,8 @@ char * nautilus_get_gmc_desktop_directory (void); char * nautilus_get_pixmap_directory (void); -gboolean nautilus_should_use_templates_directory (void); -char * nautilus_get_templates_directory (void); char * nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (void); -void nautilus_create_templates_directory (void); +char * nautilus_get_system_templates_directory_uri (void); char * nautilus_get_searches_directory (void); diff -u -r -x Makefile -x '*.o' -x .libs pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c --- pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c 2008-06-24 17:35:53.000000000 +0100 +++ nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c 2008-06-24 21:51:23.000000000 +0100 @@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ #include "libnautilus-private/nautilus-open-with-dialog.h" #include +#include #include #include #include @@ -411,7 +412,7 @@ } ScriptLaunchParameters; typedef struct { - NautilusFile *file; + char *src_uri; FMDirectoryView *directory_view; } CreateTemplateParameters; @@ -547,16 +548,14 @@ } static CreateTemplateParameters * -create_template_parameters_new (NautilusFile *file, - FMDirectoryView *directory_view) +create_template_parameters_new (char *src_uri, FMDirectoryView *directory_view) { CreateTemplateParameters *result; result = g_new0 (CreateTemplateParameters, 1); g_object_ref (directory_view); result->directory_view = directory_view; - nautilus_file_ref (file); - result->file = file; + result->src_uri = src_uri; return result; } @@ -565,7 +564,7 @@ create_templates_parameters_free (CreateTemplateParameters *parameters) { g_object_unref (parameters->directory_view); - nautilus_file_unref (parameters->file); + g_free (parameters->src_uri); g_free (parameters); } @@ -1613,12 +1612,14 @@ } static void -add_directory_to_templates_directory_list (FMDirectoryView *view, - NautilusDirectory *directory) +add_uri_to_templates_directory_list (FMDirectoryView *view, const char *directory_uri) { + NautilusDirectory *directory; + directory = nautilus_directory_get_by_uri (directory_uri); add_directory_to_directory_list (view, directory, &view->details->templates_directory_list, G_CALLBACK (templates_added_or_changed_callback)); + nautilus_directory_unref (directory); } static void @@ -1788,13 +1789,6 @@ add_directory_to_scripts_directory_list (view, scripts_directory); nautilus_directory_unref (scripts_directory); - if (nautilus_should_use_templates_directory ()) { - templates_uri = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); - templates_directory = nautilus_directory_get_by_uri (templates_uri); - g_free (templates_uri); - add_directory_to_templates_directory_list (view, templates_directory); - nautilus_directory_unref (templates_directory); - } update_templates_directory (view); g_signal_connect_object (nautilus_signaller_get_current (), "user_dirs_changed", @@ -3916,14 +3910,13 @@ new_folder_done, data); } -void -fm_directory_view_new_file (FMDirectoryView *directory_view, - const char *parent_uri, - NautilusFile *source) +static void +fm_directory_view_new_file_from_uri (FMDirectoryView *directory_view, + const char *parent_uri, + const char *source_uri) { GdkPoint *pos; NewFolderData *data; - char *source_uri; char *container_uri; container_uri = NULL; @@ -3932,7 +3925,7 @@ g_assert (container_uri != NULL); } - if (source == NULL) { + if (source_uri == NULL) { fm_directory_view_new_file_with_initial_contents (directory_view, parent_uri != NULL ? parent_uri : container_uri, NULL, @@ -3941,23 +3934,35 @@ return; } - g_return_if_fail (nautilus_file_is_local (source)); +/* g_return_if_fail (nautilus_file_is_local (source_uri)); FIXME - only local ? */ pos = context_menu_to_file_operation_position (directory_view); - data = setup_new_folder_data (directory_view); - source_uri = nautilus_file_get_uri (source); - nautilus_file_operations_new_file_from_template (GTK_WIDGET (directory_view), pos, parent_uri != NULL ? parent_uri : container_uri, NULL, source_uri, new_folder_done, data); + g_free (container_uri); +} + +void +fm_directory_view_new_file (FMDirectoryView *directory_view, + const char *parent_uri, + NautilusFile *source) +{ + char *source_uri = NULL; + + if (source != NULL) { + g_return_if_fail (nautilus_file_is_local (source)); + source_uri = nautilus_file_get_uri (source); + } + + fm_directory_view_new_file_from_uri (directory_view, parent_uri, source_uri); g_free (source_uri); - g_free (container_uri); } /* handle the open command */ @@ -5125,16 +5130,71 @@ parameters = callback_data; - fm_directory_view_new_file (parameters->directory_view, NULL, parameters->file); + fm_directory_view_new_file_from_uri (parameters->directory_view, NULL, + parameters->src_uri); } -static void +/* + * Determine the true source of a .desktop template file at + * a given URI - is it really a link to another document we + * should copy; or is it some strange KDE device .desktop + * file ? cf. libkonq/knewmenu.cc + */ +static char * +get_template_source_if_valid (const char *uri, NautilusFile *file) +{ + char *src_file = NULL; + const char *only_show_in; + GnomeDesktopItem *desktop_file; + + desktop_file = gnome_desktop_item_new_from_uri (uri, GNOME_DESKTOP_ITEM_LOAD_ONLY_IF_EXISTS, NULL); + if (!desktop_file) { + g_warning ("Invalid .desktop file '%s'", uri); + return NULL; + } + + only_show_in = gnome_desktop_item_get_string (desktop_file, + GNOME_DESKTOP_ITEM_ONLY_SHOW_IN); + if (!only_show_in || strstr (only_show_in, "GNOME")) { + const char *type; + type = gnome_desktop_item_get_string (desktop_file, GNOME_DESKTOP_ITEM_TYPE); + if (!g_strcasecmp (type, "Link")) { + /* copy the link target not ourselves */ + const char *url_prop; + url_prop = gnome_desktop_item_get_string (desktop_file, + GNOME_DESKTOP_ITEM_URL); + if (url_prop) { + if (!strstr (url_prop, "://")) { /* local path */ + if (url_prop[0] == '/') + src_file = g_filename_to_uri (url_prop, NULL, NULL); + else { /* relative path */ + char * parent_uri; + parent_uri = nautilus_file_get_parent_uri (file); + src_file = g_strconcat (parent_uri, "/", url_prop, NULL); + g_free (parent_uri); + } + } else { + src_file = g_strdup (url_prop); + } + } + } + if (src_file == NULL) { + src_file = g_strdup (uri); + } + } + gnome_desktop_item_unref (desktop_file); + + return src_file; +} + +static gboolean add_template_to_templates_menus (FMDirectoryView *directory_view, NautilusFile *file, const char *menu_path, const char *popup_bg_path) { char *tip, *uri, *name; + char *src_uri; char *dot, *escaped_label; GdkPixbuf *pixbuf; char *action_name; @@ -5142,21 +5202,33 @@ GtkUIManager *ui_manager; GtkAction *action; - name = nautilus_file_get_display_name (file); uri = nautilus_file_get_uri (file); - tip = g_strdup_printf (_("Create Document from template \"%s\""), name); - /* Remove extension */ + /* Remove display name extension */ dot = strrchr (name, '.'); if (dot != NULL) { *dot = 0; } + /* find uri extension */ + dot = strrchr (uri, '.'); + if (dot != NULL && !g_strcasecmp (dot + 1, "desktop")) { + src_uri = get_template_source_if_valid (uri, file); + if (!src_uri) { /* filtered */ + g_free (uri); + g_free (name); + return FALSE; + } + } else { + src_uri = g_strdup (uri); + } + + tip = g_strdup_printf (_("Create Document from template \"%s\""), name); action_name = escape_action_name (uri, "template_"); escaped_label = eel_str_double_underscores (name); - parameters = create_template_parameters_new (file, directory_view); + parameters = create_template_parameters_new (src_uri, directory_view); action = gtk_action_new (action_name, escaped_label, @@ -5202,6 +5274,8 @@ g_free (tip); g_free (uri); g_free (action_name); + + return TRUE; } static void @@ -5209,19 +5283,23 @@ { NautilusDirectory *templates_directory; GList *node, *next; - char *templates_uri; + char *templates_uri, *system_templates_uri; for (node = view->details->templates_directory_list; node != NULL; node = next) { next = node->next; remove_directory_from_templates_directory_list (view, node->data); } - if (nautilus_should_use_templates_directory ()) { - templates_uri = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); - templates_directory = nautilus_directory_get_by_uri (templates_uri); + templates_uri = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); + if (templates_uri != NULL) { + add_uri_to_templates_directory_list (view, templates_uri); g_free (templates_uri); - add_directory_to_templates_directory_list (view, templates_directory); - nautilus_directory_unref (templates_directory); + } + + system_templates_uri = nautilus_get_system_templates_directory_uri (); + if (system_templates_uri != NULL) { + add_uri_to_templates_directory_list (view, system_templates_uri); + g_free (system_templates_uri); } } @@ -5234,22 +5312,24 @@ } static gboolean -directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (const char *templates_directory_uri, - const char *uri) +directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (char **valid_roots, + const char *uri, + char **sub_path) { int num_levels; int i; + const char *prefix = NULL; - if (templates_directory_uri == NULL) { - return FALSE; + for (i = 0; (prefix = valid_roots[i]) != NULL; i++) { + if (g_str_has_prefix (uri, prefix)) + break; } - - if (!g_str_has_prefix (uri, templates_directory_uri)) { + if (!prefix) { return FALSE; } num_levels = 0; - for (i = strlen (templates_directory_uri); uri[i] != '\0'; i++) { + for (i = strlen (prefix); uri[i] != '\0'; i++) { if (uri[i] == '/') { num_levels++; } @@ -5259,29 +5339,31 @@ return FALSE; } + if (sub_path != NULL) { + *sub_path = g_strdup (uri + strlen (prefix)); + } + return TRUE; } static gboolean update_directory_in_templates_menu (FMDirectoryView *view, - const char *templates_directory_uri, + char **valid_roots, + const char *sub_path, NautilusDirectory *directory) { char *menu_path, *popup_bg_path; GList *file_list, *filtered, *node; gboolean any_templates; NautilusFile *file; - NautilusDirectory *dir; char *escaped_path; char *uri; int num; /* We know this directory belongs to the template dir, so it must exist */ - g_assert (templates_directory_uri); - - uri = nautilus_directory_get_uri (directory); - escaped_path = escape_action_path (uri + strlen (templates_directory_uri)); - g_free (uri); + g_assert (valid_roots); + + escaped_path = escape_action_path (sub_path); menu_path = g_strconcat (FM_DIRECTORY_VIEW_MENU_PATH_NEW_DOCUMENTS_PLACEHOLDER, escaped_path, NULL); @@ -5303,10 +5385,8 @@ if (nautilus_file_is_directory (file)) { uri = nautilus_file_get_uri (file); - if (directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (templates_directory_uri, uri)) { - dir = nautilus_directory_get_by_uri (uri); - add_directory_to_templates_directory_list (view, dir); - nautilus_directory_unref (dir); + if (directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (valid_roots, uri, NULL)) { + add_uri_to_templates_directory_list (view, uri); add_submenu_to_directory_menus (view, view->details->templates_action_group, @@ -5317,8 +5397,7 @@ } g_free (uri); } else if (nautilus_file_can_read (file)) { - add_template_to_templates_menus (view, file, menu_path, popup_bg_path); - any_templates = TRUE; + any_templates |= add_template_to_templates_menus (view, file, menu_path, popup_bg_path); } } @@ -5331,7 +5410,6 @@ } - static void update_templates_menu (FMDirectoryView *view) { @@ -5341,13 +5419,12 @@ GtkUIManager *ui_manager; char *uri; GtkAction *action; - char *templates_directory_uri; + char *valid_roots[3]; - if (nautilus_should_use_templates_directory ()) { - templates_directory_uri = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); - } else { - templates_directory_uri = NULL; - } + valid_roots[0] = nautilus_get_system_templates_directory_uri (); + g_assert (valid_roots[0] != NULL); + valid_roots[1] = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); + valid_roots[2] = NULL; /* There is a race condition here. If we don't mark the scripts menu as valid before we begin our task then we can lose template menu updates that @@ -5369,16 +5446,17 @@ sorted_copy = nautilus_directory_list_sort_by_uri (nautilus_directory_list_copy (view->details->templates_directory_list)); for (node = sorted_copy; node != NULL; node = node->next) { + char *sub_path = NULL; directory = node->data; uri = nautilus_directory_get_uri (directory); - if (!directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (templates_directory_uri, uri)) { + if (!directory_belongs_in_templates_menu (valid_roots, uri, &sub_path)) { remove_directory_from_templates_directory_list (view, directory); - } else if (update_directory_in_templates_menu (view, - templates_directory_uri, - directory)) { + } else if (update_directory_in_templates_menu (view, valid_roots, + sub_path, directory)) { any_templates = TRUE; } + g_free (sub_path); g_free (uri); } nautilus_directory_list_free (sorted_copy); @@ -5386,7 +5464,8 @@ action = gtk_action_group_get_action (view->details->dir_action_group, FM_ACTION_NO_TEMPLATES); gtk_action_set_visible (action, !any_templates); - g_free (templates_directory_uri); + g_free (valid_roots[0]); + g_free (valid_roots[1]); } diff -u -r -x Makefile -x '*.o' -x .libs pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c.orig nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c.orig --- pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c.orig 2008-04-04 15:53:15.000000000 +0100 +++ nautilus-2.22.2/src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c.orig 2008-06-24 17:35:53.000000000 +0100 @@ -7347,6 +7347,12 @@ { g_assert (FM_IS_DIRECTORY_VIEW (view)); + if (eel_preferences_get_boolean (NAUTILUS_LOCKDOWN_DISABLE_CONTEXT_MENUS)) { + nautilus_debug_log (FALSE, NAUTILUS_DEBUG_LOG_DOMAIN_LOCKDOWN, + "Ignoring request to pop up the context menu for the view's selection"); + return; + } + /* Make the context menu items not flash as they update to proper disabled, * etc. states by forcing menus to update now. */ @@ -7376,6 +7382,12 @@ { g_assert (FM_IS_DIRECTORY_VIEW (view)); + if (eel_preferences_get_boolean (NAUTILUS_LOCKDOWN_DISABLE_CONTEXT_MENUS)) { + nautilus_debug_log (FALSE, NAUTILUS_DEBUG_LOG_DOMAIN_LOCKDOWN, + "Ignoring request to pop up the context menu for the view's background"); + return; + } + /* Make the context menu items not flash as they update to proper disabled, * etc. states by forcing menus to update now. */ @@ -7404,6 +7416,12 @@ { g_assert (FM_IS_DIRECTORY_VIEW (view)); + if (eel_preferences_get_boolean (NAUTILUS_LOCKDOWN_DISABLE_CONTEXT_MENUS)) { + nautilus_debug_log (FALSE, NAUTILUS_DEBUG_LOG_DOMAIN_LOCKDOWN, + "Ignoring request to pop up the context menu for the view"); + return; + } + /* always update the menu before showing it. Shouldn't be too expensive. */ real_update_location_menu (view); diff -u -r -x Makefile -x '*.o' -x .libs pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/nautilus-window-menus.c nautilus-2.22.2/src/nautilus-window-menus.c --- pristine-nautilus-2.22.2/src/nautilus-window-menus.c 2008-03-29 09:40:25.000000000 +0000 +++ nautilus-2.22.2/src/nautilus-window-menus.c 2008-06-24 20:59:40.000000000 +0100 @@ -283,12 +283,12 @@ action_go_to_templates_callback (GtkAction *action, gpointer user_data) { - char *path; + char *uri; GFile *location; - path = nautilus_get_templates_directory (); - location = g_file_new_for_path (path); - g_free (path); + uri = nautilus_get_templates_directory_uri (); + location = g_file_new_for_uri (uri); + g_free (uri); nautilus_window_go_to (NAUTILUS_WINDOW (user_data), location); g_object_unref (location); --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=GnomeOnlyRelative.desktop Content-Type: application/x-desktop; name=GnomeOnlyRelative.desktop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=GNOME only, relative Type=Link URL=.source/OpenDocumentDrawing.odg Icon=ooo-draw OnlyShowIn=GNOME --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=OnlyKDE.desktop Content-Type: application/x-desktop; name=OnlyKDE.desktop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=KDE only - should never see ... Type=Link URL=file:///opt/kde3/share/templates/.source/OpenDocumentDrawing.odg Icon=ooo-draw OnlyShowIn=KDE --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Path.desktop Content-Type: application/x-desktop; name=Path.desktop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Test with a path Type=Link URL=/opt/kde3/share/templates/.source/OpenDocumentDrawing.odg Icon=ooo-draw --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=URL.desktop Content-Type: application/x-desktop; name=URL.desktop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Test with a URL ... Type=Link URL=file:///opt/kde3/share/templates/.source/OpenDocumentDrawing.odg Icon=ooo-draw --=-19k/K2JJ6dn7CcXA/5sk-- From michael.meeks@novell.com Fri Jun 27 14:50:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55929750203; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 1117 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [195.135.221.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QBH1SeSAXkqH; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emea5-mh.id5.novell.com (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DEE7500CE; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] ([149.44.162.75]) by emea5-mh.id5.novell.com with ESMTP (TLS encrypted); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:50:14 +0200 Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: Michael Meeks To: David Zeuthen In-Reply-To: <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Novell, Inc. Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:47:46 +0100 Message-Id: <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:52 +0000 Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.meeks@novell.com List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:50:26 -0000 Hi David, On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 20:10 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > JFYI, I seem to remember Alex being unhappy about such an approach :-) > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.nautilus/3745 > > and I tend to agree. What problem are you trying to solve Michael? The problem I'm trying to solve is that I wanted a desktop to be easy to use for my Father, and this involved having a nice right-click context menu with "Create OpenOffice document" in it on the desktop & in the file manager. My existing "Create Document" menu has only the (rather useless and misleading) "Empty File" entry - I love to create empty files, but I'd like an empty file of a given type ;-) [ rather than a text file targeting gedit ;-]. Much to my amazement, KDE has such a feature - and their templates directory appears to be proof that such a thing can exist without the world & wife dumping all sorts of junk in it (one of Alex's arguments). Clearly vendors need to take care that they don't themselves allow junk to pile up there: which empirically seems quite possible if not easy. Interestingly, our OO.o package already creates a nice set of templates in /opt/kde3/share/templates - which are .desktop files setup such that KDE can use them in this menu [ perhaps slightly useful for ISVs ]. Of course, wrt. lock-down and merging and so-on I can believe it's a disaster, and there can be conflicts in the menu (as there can be with other files). At a minimum - if you turn off the 'system' files: the patch adds the ability to add .desktop files in each users directory that point to a template - and allow translation of that template's name: currently not possible. Either way - I'm fairly confident that if we have the templates menu in every right click context having some content in it might not be a bad thing ;-) Are you implacably opposed ? HTH, Michael. -- michael.meeks@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot From michael.meeks@novell.com Fri Jun 27 15:00:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F04B75017B; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:00:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 1119 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [195.135.221.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZH44PB90VWy; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emea5-mh.id5.novell.com (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB9075007C; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] ([149.44.162.75]) by emea5-mh.id5.novell.com with ESMTP (TLS encrypted); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:00:45 +0200 Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: Michael Meeks To: Christian Neumair In-Reply-To: <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Organization: Novell, Inc. Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:58:17 +0100 Message-Id: <1214578697.24396.295.camel@t60p.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:52 +0000 Cc: nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.meeks@novell.com List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:00:56 -0000 Hi Christian, On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 00:05 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > Thanks for your efforts. I am mostly fine with the patch, but I have a > few minor comments: Much appreciated. > How does KDE sort the menu items? IMO it would make sense to merge all > the template sources (including subdirectories), and then sort the items > by display name. Oh; no idea. I can look I guess - I tried to leave whatever sorting / ordering was there originally (none?) un-touched. > I wonder why you migrated the template parameters to textual URIs. Using > GFiles and NautilusFiles rather than URI strings is a Nautilus > convention we should stick to. Weelll ... I didn't like the look of the 'File' APIs - looked to scary to me; as if simply creating a GFile was going to do a chunk of I/O work. Looking at the API methods on them it looks like simply creating one of these objects is going to do lots of I/O - statting the file, digging around it to bed it in & so on ;-) Of course, that's just ignorance mostly I guess - but the name 'file' lead me to believe that: it seems the 'file' API mixes abstract URI handling, and file-system operations - which is what confused me. > g_str_has_suffix() would also look more readable for detecting a > ".desktop" suffix in add_template_to_templates_menus(). Sure, but not cope with ".DESKTOP" files ;-) at least, I was trying to code defensively. Is there a g_strcase_has_suffix() ? > Regarding the get_template_source_if_valid(), you should use > g_ascii_strncasecmp() for the desktop file type check, and ensure that > it is not NULL before strcmp'ing it. Good catch on the != NULL; the strncasecmp doesn't match the KDE approach they check for only "Link" - do we really want to match all "LinkExtended" type values ? > You also seem to return the .desktop file's URI if it is not a link, > instead of returning NULL. This looks wrong. I'll add a comment: it's right - if the .desktop file is not a link, presumably someone intended to add it to their Templates as a desktop file init's own right "create .desktop file from template" - KDE use this for various (urk?!) "device" .desktop files. > > [ Incidentally - if it is more widely used - should it not be one slot > > higher up than "Add Launcher" in the right-click context menu ? ] > > You mean it should be at the top, above "New Folder"? I often created > new folders, but almost never new documents. Nah - I mean on the desktop context menu I propose: - "Create Folder, Create Launcher, Create Document" + "Create Folder, Create Document, Create Launcher" simple tweak to nautilus-directory-view-ui.xml's "background" ordering (if that's ok ?). Anyhow - I'll clean up the above; then may I commit ? [ one final point - we seem to do a lot of this work at startup time, before we've even rendered the desktop background - which seems a little sub-optimal - I might look at deferring some of that work ] Thanks, Michael. -- michael.meeks@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot From sorin.cali@gmail.com Sat Jun 28 14:33:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FB8750007 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:33:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.739 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 2479 hrs), (distance 16, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.243] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ailep+01oOj1 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:33:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E787501C1 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:33:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so157893ana.27 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:33:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YQycwyv7Ra5Pu1iOgHJP6MPgs+vX4mwo71GL2Z7HyrA=; b=x5bLTFUYZeWqRrrC+AHXGbWQ0fDdzluYbsptODRmBntVLoIyXe9dsDq5U68JjAcY6b /yNzlTGapOMxTQWh5EE2bEbHt61c/zTChzCYNpyD0NQ2ao05RblcMR1xPtjCocp9FdkD f0sCdVydVxXSdZJuUzASENruk+hlrG6IHxDOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ViDLNZs4vIcuhnvjkxxtZes+wZiP3omxTq5tC3lRKv1tR71EO91/xYeGRLAZcMPkwT LC5L3o7JZcbSnHT+SM9CPo5lgomxs3Mxd/Ca0vLGw3MIBr3PxSepn9zeWLwSbuN4cx9P zzFLkF+eSy38U0d+0DVKeeNr9L1QVUs/E3VeU= Received: by 10.100.95.19 with SMTP id s19mr2707821anb.65.1214663610394; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.119.10 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:33:30 +0300 From: Sorin To: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" Subject: The perfect file manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23857_6350126.1214663610419" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:33:41 -0000 ------=_Part_23857_6350126.1214663610419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Features: - Windows Vista file manager look (kind of Mozilla Firefox look in terms of nav. buttons, address/search bars) - compact list view (nice when working with lots of files) - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) - support for archives - support for encrypted files/volumes - support for network files/volumes (including FTP, and Windows) - secure delete feature (sweap) - preview/embeded view for different types of content (office documents, images, videos, web pages) - indexing/searching support - global bookmarks - support for plugins ------=_Part_23857_6350126.1214663610419 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Features:

- Windows Vista file manager look (kind of Mozilla Firefox look in terms of nav. buttons, address/search bars)
- compact list view (nice when working with lots of files)
- tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature)
- support for archives
- support for encrypted files/volumes
- support for network files/volumes (including FTP, and Windows)
- secure delete feature (sweap)
- preview/embeded view for different types of content (office documents, images, videos, web pages)
- indexing/searching support
- global bookmarks
- support for plugins

------=_Part_23857_6350126.1214663610419-- From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Jun 29 14:20:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7907502D3 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:20:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 3744 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e6T1iFfCiF6L for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97C35750420 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:10:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jun 2008 14:10:19 -0000 Received: from f053152089.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.1.6]) [78.53.152.89] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 16:10:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/afdBlZo7aiYO3DnbFA20odTRKL+evlIscrOIYey yxhSDK9eFneiy3 Subject: Re: The perfect file manager From: Andre Klapper To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:07:33 +0200 Message-Id: <1214748453.7492.3.camel@embrace> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:20:40 -0000 Am Samstag, den 28.06.2008, 17:33 +0300 schrieb Sorin: > - Windows Vista file manager look (kind of Mozilla Firefox look in > terms of nav. buttons, address/search bars) > - compact list view (nice when working with lots of files) > - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) > - support for archives > - support for encrypted files/volumes > - support for network files/volumes (including FTP, and Windows) > - secure delete feature (sweap) > - preview/embeded view for different types of content (office > documents, images, videos, web pages) > - indexing/searching support > - global bookmarks > - support for plugins did you ever try nautilus? much stuff of this is already possible, and most descriptions are totally vague. feel free to come up with patches. andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From dylanmccall@gmail.com Sun Jun 29 15:27:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B0C750116 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:27:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [154.20.139.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm8561163wfd.1.2008.06.29.08.26.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The perfect file manager To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1214748453.7492.3.camel@embrace> References: <1214748453.7492.3.camel@embrace> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ok0rD9HtnOyx9F20ma9x" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:26:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1214753212.9396.34.camel@dylan-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 From: Dylan McCall X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:27:12 -0000 --=-Ok0rD9HtnOyx9F20ma9x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 16:07 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Samstag, den 28.06.2008, 17:33 +0300 schrieb Sorin: > > - Windows Vista file manager look (kind of Mozilla Firefox look in > > terms of nav. buttons, address/search bars) > > - compact list view (nice when working with lots of files) > > - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) > > - support for archives > > - support for encrypted files/volumes > > - support for network files/volumes (including FTP, and Windows) > > - secure delete feature (sweap) > > - preview/embeded view for different types of content (office > > documents, images, videos, web pages) > > - indexing/searching support > > - global bookmarks=20 > > - support for plugins >=20 > did you ever try nautilus? much stuff of this is already possible, and > most descriptions are totally vague. feel free to come up with patches. >=20 > andre Besides which, I for one think the /perfect/ file manager would have to change things quite a bit, with a completely different view mode -- one which groups items based on how important they are to the user (as determined by file type and variables like image width). Icons would have many different levels of visibility, each level adding more preview information. That "importance" measure could also peak inside of folders. I think that would have a really interesting impact on usability. For example, a shocking number of users are baffled by the task of navigating photo CDs, and I noticed that the reason why is because they are afraid of randomly trying things with computers. If the photo CD's horribly named DCIM folder had a larger preview level and some images from inside visible, that would really help! It would look cool, too. (Keep in mind, the file manager is also a huge component of the shell). On another thought entirely, there is a nice trend toward there being many different file managers. Eg: F-Spot behaves like a file manager since it still plugs directly back to the rest of GNOME, with drag & drop to copy the images from place to place. I think it would be worthwhile to keep an eye out for patterns in these designs; this may be the perfect opportunity to throw in a helper library. Something else to keep in mind is that the lines of what a "file manager" is could be blurred quite a bit if GNOME came to have something like the Tango project's Window Experiments[1]; thoughtful programs talking to a library to say "I am working on file X", resulting in a nice icon on the top left of the window (and that knowledge being available to other interested applications, like window lists). The icon could then act just like a file icon in Nautilus now, being draggable / droppable with options to copy, move and link the file. Where file management begins and ends would then be less obvious, more natural to the end user. We still have Nautilus to be the way of viewing folders and opening files, and generally the target for any file-related DnD operations, but the environment as a whole would be closer linked to the concept. As it is right now, managing files is only "properly" done from one place [2]. That a program is currently working on a file in a particular window is not as well defined as it could be, either to the user or to other software. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Window_Experiments [2] =EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFI mention this, because I have encountered a Windows = user who utilized the File -> Open dialog in a particular program for his generic file management tasks. That truly sent a chill down my spine. Thankfully, our File Open dialog stays completely in scope, but this did get me pondering something. Any program that manipulates a file has a Save As button which often works very much like Copy would in a file manager. Why such a different movement? Why are there two different operations doing the same thing? Why does one feel rather direct (as in Copy & Paste or DnD), whereas the other is more like punching a command into a terminal (save to /home/me/documents/thisthing/draftb)? In other words, I disagree with the notion of continually poking about in the classic "file manager" concept; it is a very central part of the desktop environment, yet file managers seem to have never changed in their design. Have we advanced this little? Talk for another day, though. Right now, there's 2.24 to worry about :) Bye, -Dylan --=-Ok0rD9HtnOyx9F20ma9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIZ6m8H38fupNe5XoRAjM/AJ9iz2AvjdT4S0us3HWwKG2J6Bk87ACfWmFj kXmkf1ISMFdSo2fuSLFkBL4= =dz/W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ok0rD9HtnOyx9F20ma9x-- From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Jun 29 16:25:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB001750116 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:25:39 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (up: 5690 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rec2FwOld9na for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B53D07500B0 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:25:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jun 2008 16:25:29 -0000 Received: from f053152089.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.1.6]) [78.53.152.89] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 29 Jun 2008 18:25:29 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18qXW1qbLwqGQyL1+XMsAC2DkCAJqTVe246urgug6 NwJCOLKHT8Y0Ue Subject: Re: The perfect file manager From: Andre Klapper To: nautilus-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <9a63e8920806290819s59853c26na1c653283d234b18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1214748453.7492.3.camel@embrace> <9a63e8920806290819s59853c26na1c653283d234b18@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:22:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1214756563.6942.6.camel@embrace> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:25:40 -0000 Am Sonntag, den 29.06.2008, 20:49 +0530 schrieb Ravi Kumar: > did you ever try nautilus? much stuff of this is already > possible, and > most descriptions are totally vague. feel free to come up with > patches. > > Have you ever used nautilus Mr Andre Klapper ? visit here : > http://www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus/ . that page is quite outdated and not something to cite imo. > Though nautilus is a good file manager, many of the things noted above > is not available in Nautilus. yeah, "many". but some are, and that's exactly what i told you. and i also asked you to be less vague with your descriptions. andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From alleykat@gmail.com Sun Jun 29 16:38:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629377501B6 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:38:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 1950 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CqfsPiYR8jDN for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:37:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BFF7501A4 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:37:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so519327ywh.63 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=08+EjPIKg1BkXGZwgZo9n5G+Jnymp/D7IsnhfpgsV3w=; b=ukxbYoqvRMTWSo6djiuwzXOU0XYz4gpGkH/qcPIdagwnShmo5bR3+R3sdNAJTHJ5oS Nh9iv5AikvKahx9kECvWSKN1SFxW10dH80EfvovjLMjzDELyY8+ZLGy0n2T+gDflXEfF So/JwLeRlGFwJRWIkZYtsD0CREIYs7T+tBF5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hWrPukY6F4A62yArZT0TwD26xzezqqP1za0JCQzdOY4e7XnzswwTs22dwttz5UNZV5 oIFAjdIEb3XxWypT67pSkZhKfRm71CF79zDURd4Nw1nTX9wvIS0HbpoxAIfyfxJErPmf c1fye1e1ajsh/wIQqkF9eE8N3OWgEhqOck/S4= Received: by 10.150.156.20 with SMTP id d20mr6553904ybe.230.1214757470593; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.40.15 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:37:50 -0500 From: "Travis Watkins" Sender: alleykat@gmail.com To: Sorin Subject: Re: The perfect file manager In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9a504f3c2e031224 Cc: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:38:01 -0000 On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Sorin wrote: > Features: > > - Windows Vista file manager look (kind of Mozilla Firefox look in terms of > nav. buttons, address/search bars) That's really a theme issue. > - compact list view (nice when working with lots of files) Someone was working on this, not sure if it ever got finished. > - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) This is being worked on. > - support for archives I don't really see the point of this but someone was working on libarchive gio backend. > - support for encrypted files/volumes This is the responsibility of your kernel. > - support for network files/volumes (including FTP, and Windows) Done. > - secure delete feature (sweap) Not sure on this one. > - preview/embeded view for different types of content (office documents, > images, videos, web pages) Done. > - indexing/searching support Nautilus should not do indexing but it should support searching using whatever program does do the indexing. Which it does. > - global bookmarks Done? > - support for plugins Done. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Sun Jun 29 17:24:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983E750228 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:24:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.58.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 11sm4232678hug.62.2008.06.29.10.23.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The perfect file manager From: Cosimo Cecchi To: Travis Watkins In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:24:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1214760241.6417.19.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" , Sorin X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:24:22 -0000 On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 11:37 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Sorin wrote: > > - compact list view (nice when working with lots of files) > Someone was working on this, not sure if it ever got finished. Yes, this is already in trunk and in 2.23.x development releases. -- Cosimo From cosimo.cecchi@gmail.com Sun Jun 29 17:30:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F15750116 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:30:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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( [151.49.58.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm3762077hue.40.2008.06.29.10.30.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The perfect file manager From: Cosimo Cecchi To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1214756563.6942.6.camel@embrace> References: <1214748453.7492.3.camel@embrace> <9a63e8920806290819s59853c26na1c653283d234b18@mail.gmail.com> <1214756563.6942.6.camel@embrace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:30:48 +0200 Message-Id: <1214760648.6417.26.camel@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: Cosimo Cecchi Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:30:58 -0000 On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 18:22 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > Have you ever used nautilus Mr Andre Klapper ? visit here : > > http://www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus/ . > > that page is quite outdated and not something to cite imo. The site, it's not *that* outdated; I updated it myself a few weeks ago! ;) It just doesn't describe in any way the features of Nautilus: searching, support for remote network locations, thumbnails, the new file transfer dialog and so on. To anyone who is interested in updating the website: help is much appreciated :) Bye, -- Cosimo From nshmyrev@yandex.ru Sun Jun 29 21:02:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBB675008C for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S2:45:1:60:M8960,S,T,N,W5:.:?:?] (up: 4396 hrs), (link: unknown-9000), [213.180.200.213] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YcwCyWwCFErO for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp8.yandex.ru (smtp8.yandex.ru [213.180.200.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F7F7500F2 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:01:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ppp85-141-128-162.pppoe.mtu-net.ru ([85.141.128.162]:31577 "EHLO [192.168.1.2]" smtp-auth: "nshmyrev" TLS-CIPHER: "DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA keybits 256/256 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S7454765AbYF2VBn (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:01:43 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp8 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1214773303 X-MsgDayCount: 2 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp8.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: nshmyrev Subject: Re: editable toolbars, editable menubar From: "Nickolay V. Shmyrev" To: Patrick Byrne In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:00:57 +0400 Message-Id: <1214773257.3801.1.camel@shadow> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 (2.12.1-3.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:02:06 -0000 В Сбт, 28/06/2008 в 13:11 +0100, Patrick Byrne пишет: > This is a feature request for nautilus, probably for gnome framework. > > I would like to be able to move buttons from the nautilus tool-bars > into the menu-bar. This is possible in firefox, thunderbird, and also > in Windows Explorer. > > Is there any chance of this being implemented for nautilus / gnome? > > I apologise if this is the wrong place to raise this. If so, I would > appreciate a pointer to where I might pursue this. Hi. The patch for editable toolbar exists and attached to the related bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42834 Unfortunately it needs work. From kristoffer.lunden@gmail.com Mon Jun 30 08:03:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697027503B2 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:03:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.318 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.318 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.280, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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(up: 11407 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [64.233.184.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c+aftnydBSL4 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:06:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B85F750219 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:05:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so548145wra.27 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:05:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=e5ulZyYJTfo3xkYYPGfxHhc5mB7cbvZgU+Yt1gvIwDU=; b=th1QwBCTz5dc6yqtRzKIBgUZ5+b8axTlYUM/eKiMy+riVpo766c1GzUzSutfuqWPJp Tk2qROPAOQxCceK7kKXQDEgsDAAWYkzimI68dCJbZjDPpR28wo2pK67YxB5PiLNB7uvd TBL2nKdLMYPfcDtzRAOQciS8dahDcmKe6vCqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=A43bUbOOJtdTmL0453GVAAYC5tM2B2mwfUJDd7ulmnEj80CpamDuJJ2Uuvmm/lV4tj eFmZtgoUqjGmuP+7qtGb1IPlV72B9uxHgp2gT/w8Mi5xpeOf0JpO43U7Pqw6Ad2xliXl o4f2hgjWaquPwWcbWMxk0FJYhMFJ6M/ZJ5+R8= Received: by 10.90.105.6 with SMTP id d6mr3655764agc.18.1214820326433; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.33.13 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:05:26 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristoffer_Lund=E9n?=" To: "Travis Watkins" Subject: Re: The perfect file manager In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29625_11237910.1214820326428" References: Cc: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" , Sorin X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:06:55 -0000 ------=_Part_29625_11237910.1214820326428 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 18:37, Travis Watkins wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Sorin wrote: > > > - support for archives > I don't really see the point of this but someone was working on > libarchive gio backend. > I love this feature. Why start a separate application when all you do is navigate directories, copy (both ways) and execute files, all in a file system. An archive or ext3 or iso - it's all just files. Windows gets this one right (but only for zip, I think). The other thing I'd really like is good support for selections in single-click mode. Vista's explorer gets this one right, as I detailed in another mail to this list. Alexander liked it but didn't have any time for it. :) Otherwise I'm very happy as it is. :) -- Stoffe ------=_Part_29625_11237910.1214820326428 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 18:37, Travis Watkins <amaranth@ubuntu.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Sorin <sorin.cali@gmail.com> wrote:

> - support for archives
I don't really see the point of this but someone was working on
libarchive gio backend.

I love this feature. Why start a separate application when all you do is navigate directories, copy (both ways) and execute files, all in a file system. An archive or ext3 or iso - it's all just files. Windows gets this one right (but only for zip, I think).


The other thing I'd really like is good support for selections in single-click mode. Vista's explorer gets this one right, as I detailed in another mail to this list. Alexander liked it but didn't have any time for it. :)

Otherwise I'm very happy as it is. :)

-- Stoffe
------=_Part_29625_11237910.1214820326428-- From gilles.dartiguelongue@esiee.org Mon Jun 30 10:53:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A71B7500DC for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 112 hrs), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [147.215.1.3] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Em4zzkxxj2LQ for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD2D7500BF for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id A2FFE2D0E for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984912D0E for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.30.0.26] (wiki.comwax.com [88.191.63.61]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dartigug) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31415E835C for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: Gilles Dartiguelongue To: nautilus-list In-Reply-To: References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PqU8O+gKx21N9Dg+cEpL" Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:33 +0200 Message-Id: <1214823213.15718.4.camel@woix.comwax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:53:49 -0000 --=-PqU8O+gKx21N9Dg+cEpL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le lundi 30 juin 2008 =C3=A0 09:57 +0200, Kristoffer Lund=C3=A9n a =C3=A9cr= it : [snip] > Can only speak for myself, as a normal-but-heavy user, both at work > and at home: I would very much not like a distribution or application > clutter my menu with templates, especially ones that I can't easily > remove since they are system-wide and therefore both permissions and > other users may be a problem. Other users are also a "problem" in what > they may install if we all share templates. >=20 > I very much like the templates-per-user approach where a Templates > directory is used - but I think some extra glue would be very nice, > perhaps a simple way to *copy* some system-wide templates to the local > place, maybe using the top-ribbon to show that option clearly? [snip] believe me, as sysadmin and/or distributor, this is one of the things that makes nautilus much nicer. Nobody forces anybody to put templates in there actually and the will just be available in the right click menu. I can't see what harm it could do. --=20 Gilles Dartiguelongue --=-PqU8O+gKx21N9Dg+cEpL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhouy0ACgkQ1fmVwcYIWAYSfQCgwS0P841QT40qElqSdazGUuVJ KKcAoLgRUYsPtiTls+ta1b1QIVS7zQRb =EaJk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-PqU8O+gKx21N9Dg+cEpL-- From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 30 14:28:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFB975000B for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.085 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.085 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7970 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uwTmj2dp0THu for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA747500A5 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.14.35] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CF5D8CC47; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The perfect file manager From: David Zeuthen To: Travis Watkins In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:15 -0400 Message-Id: <1214836095.3329.22.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 (2.23.4-2.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" , Sorin X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:41 -0000 On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 11:37 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote: > > - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) > This is being worked on. I've read about this on this list. It sounds scary. Does anyone have a screenshots of the work in progress? Thanks. David From awalton@gmail.com Mon Jun 30 14:36:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A53750008 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:36:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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Walton" Sender: awalton@gmail.com To: "David Zeuthen" Subject: Re: The perfect file manager In-Reply-To: <1214836095.3329.22.camel@x61.fubar.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1214836095.3329.22.camel@x61.fubar.dk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 85c5d3429de26bdc Cc: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" , Travis Watkins , Sorin X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:36:19 -0000 On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 11:37 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote: >> > - tabs (Windows Vista, and Apple's OS X are far behind this feature) >> This is being worked on. > > I've read about this on this list. It sounds scary. Does anyone have a > screenshots of the work in progress? Thanks. http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/05/27/gnome-file-manager-gets-tabbed-file-browsing And for closer investigation: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/nautilus/branches/multiview/ -A. Walton > David > > > -- > nautilus-list mailing list > nautilus-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list > From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 30 14:43:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D55750031; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.178 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.178 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TW_XD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7970 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qc1JfdLKhb+i; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044857500A2; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.14.35] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9CFD8CC47; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: David Zeuthen To: michael.meeks@novell.com In-Reply-To: <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:42:53 -0400 Message-Id: <1214836973.3329.37.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 (2.23.4-2.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:18 -0000 Hey Michael, On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 15:47 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Are you implacably opposed ? I'm worried that people end up with menus like these Create Document -> OpenOffice Writer ODF document Abiword ODF document KOffice ODF document times the number of formats, times the number of different document types. Then you have KWrite, Kate, GEdit, Emacs, VIM, Eclipse and god knows what other tools that are going to dump files there. Which is a typical use case on many campus setups where the workstation is typically an "everything" install because it's setup to serve a diverse set of users (for example Boston University does this). So I don't think this feature you're suggesting is going to help anyone, see e.g. how bad this works on Windows. This is why I'm opposed to the feature. One can also argue that it's still not discoverable how to launch the word processor. Well, on my desktop it's in the Applications->Office menu. I think with GNOME main menu on SUSE you either have it in the favorites menu or it's easily accessible by searching for "word processor". Back to the problem at hand, you want to make it easy for your father to create OpenOffice documents. Typically when people use a full fledged word processor they create documents of a given type. Hence why we have the Templates feature. Does OpenOffice save templates to ~/Templates? If so, is this feature implemented in a way that compel users to use it? If not, is this something that the OpenOffice team is interested in working on? Another avenue to investigate is extending xdg-user-dirs so it can create more than just directories; e.g. it could create and manage payloads in ~/Templates just like it does with directories. I think that's a more compelling feature as it allows users to manage these instead of leaving the user with a lot of useless items in the "Create Document" menu. In other words, what I'm trying to say with the last two paragraphs, I think it would be useful to try and work with the Templates system instead of brutally bypassing it. Of course, I'm not a Nautilus maintainer but I thought I'd post my opinion anyway. Thanks, David From ken.lee@theleehome.org Mon Jun 30 15:31:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562B57500BF for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:31:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 9011 hrs), (distance 13, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.198.230] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19xSIYT0PT0L for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:31:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152AD750077 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:31:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1289957rvb.3 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr2726130rvf.148.1214839859094; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.132.6 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:30:59 -0600 From: "Kenneth Lee" Sender: ken.lee@theleehome.org To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Subject: cut copy disabled in right click menu when file selected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17197_1691650.1214839859105" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5b7535e30e29600f X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:31:29 -0000 ------=_Part_17197_1691650.1214839859105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I first start Nautilus, the right click options work how I would expect. After several operation, or when I open a second Nautilus windown to copy from one to the other, the cut copy paste menu options are all greyed out. Delete is also greyed out. I am both the owner and group owner of the file in my own home directory. Is there an option or setting that I need to modify to change this behavior? Thanks, Ken ------=_Part_17197_1691650.1214839859105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I first start Nautilus, the right click options work how I would expect.  After several operation, or when I open a second Nautilus windown to copy from one to the other, the cut copy paste menu options are all greyed out.  Delete is also greyed out.  I am both the owner and group owner of the file in my own home directory.  Is there an option or setting that I need to modify to change this behavior?

Thanks, Ken

------=_Part_17197_1691650.1214839859105-- From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 30 16:16:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C02375015E; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:16:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.563 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TW_XD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7974 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YPpQkRm2MFlL; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CED750031; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.14.35] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068C7D8CC47; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: David Zeuthen To: michael.meeks@novell.com In-Reply-To: <1214840108.24396.384.camel@t60p.site> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> <1214836973.3329.37.camel@x61.fubar.dk> <1214840108.24396.384.camel@t60p.site> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:16:23 -0400 Message-Id: <1214842583.10476.23.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.23.4 (2.23.4-2.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:16:52 -0000 On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 16:35 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi David, > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:42 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > > I'm worried that people end up with menus like these > > Sure - but empirically this has not proved to be the case in KDE - so > we can relax ;-) I don't really buy this anecdotal evidence. What you are suggesting is an ABI for ISV's and thus it is bound to be abused. Just see here for some evidence http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2006/11/01/922449.aspx IOW, I don't think your approach scales. > > Create Document -> OpenOffice Writer ODF document > > Abiword ODF document > > KOffice ODF document > > Presumably all of them creating the same blank ODF document ;-) which > sounds pretty lame. Indeed. Yet, it's high-value real estate so ISV's (including open source projects of course) will of course abuse it. > > > So I don't think this feature you're suggesting is going to help anyone, > > see e.g. how bad this works on Windows. This is why I'm opposed to the > > feature. > > So - how can an administrator create default templates in these places > for all users of all systems they administer ? And - as a better > question: what default templates should a general purpose desktop come > with ? what document types are sufficiently generally useful to make > them easy to create anywhere. Now that's an interesting question. It's similar to what I hinted in my earlier mail. What default folders should we create in the users home directory? And how do we create and maintain them without getting in the way of the user? And how do we avoid abuse by ISV's? Alex already answered that question with xdg-user-dirs. Now, xdg-user-dirs allows system administrators (not ISV's, there's no directory that is traversed e.g. evil ISV's would have to rewrite config files in /etc) to define directories to be created in the users home directory. My suggestion is to do the same for files. So your stock OS install would create New Empty Word Processor Document (ODF) New Empty Presentation (ODF) depending on what kind of users your OS targets. And if I'm a customer (e.g. Acme Corp) and deploys your OS in my organization I can go in and edit the moral equivalent of /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults to add my own templates. For example, I'd add New Acme Corp Sales Presentations (OOXML) New Acme Corp Timesheets (OOXML) or whatever. Now, the salaried employees of Acme Corp can just delete "New Acme Corp Timesheets (OOXML)" and the engineer employees of Acme Corp can delete "New Acme Corp Sales Presentations (OOXML)". And probably the engineers would delete "New Empty Word Processor Document (ODF)" too ;-) Further, it will be possible to ensure these templates can a) be renamed; and b) stay deleted; using similar mechanism already employed by the xdg-user-dirs framework. > But - really, my question is: why do the defaults suck here ? and what > can we do about it; my patch improves that I think. If you don't like > the defaults, you can hassle the packagers of your operating system to > improve things. And yes - any sane distribution will by default (cf. KDE > ad nauesum) not shove endless junk into your templates menu. The problem with your approach is that it's an interface for ISV's. And you really don't want that. What you do want, however, is an interface for the system administrator that the ISV's can't abuse. > My problem is, perhaps that I don't understand the existing Templates > system you refer to. Here is my use case: > > * hot plug USB device > * nautilus window pops up showing nice blank space > * [ I want to create a new document in here ] > > My thesis is a right-click Templates menu should be -useful- at least > on a new, blank install of a new user: and that (in general) the > defaults should be good enough to do something useful out of the box. > They are under KDE ;-) I largely agree with this use case. But I think it's a grave mistake to export this as an interface for ISV's. The other problem is that the user is no longer in control. He can't delete these templates. And that's why it's NAK from me to this patch if I were the maintainer. So I think it's a lot better to explore how to create an interface for the system administrator that is hard for ISV's to abuse. Making it similar to xdg-user-dirs, as sketched above, is just one idea that I came up with after thinking about the problem for less than an hour. I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. David From sorin.cali@gmail.com Mon Jun 30 10:06:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB2C750184 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:06:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.184 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 2914 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.132.249] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cUp38SqMOUdB for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946475025D for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:04:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so228704ana.27 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:04:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Y3GgXcicp+PGO4/z4CtMTFzqG3gqNPl371D3fk9NlmY=; b=ch6Iph69/WlL+azdUYdneTpV6ImJ2oBLvQ2P2UYKnDSTJkEt6/uc6Xrej2gVF3lANF xafItMvNLS9H5a/vtRdTPWjZMZ7d/Ub6Rn8m6F5VMk1c2cqOk++T/xNpmL8JysqrXOma Za2TjJgJL5AZRGYZNTuzWuzk+b1MgHPM1uKYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bMDX2ETmRlbNICsvzUjxigdSOV5H4pBQsufxdaLxBSY21T12brc4mtodRcecoQCgCN V5u/mnEGqrgLtBCDdDdnp1ww4gZov6KEwevZ6KNQc8FwjK2+nZ/B8/btSt0hX7KzPnC+ Wu/NlItcuPUQE6aRGCOlAwfw4iZ9yUtUgDpVs= Received: by 10.100.212.6 with SMTP id k6mr3607345ang.142.1214820295656; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.119.10 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:04:55 +0300 From: Sorin To: "nautilus-list@gnome.org" Subject: Missing feature: data protection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30606_21787312.1214820295619" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:11:19 +0000 X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:06:17 -0000 ------=_Part_30606_21787312.1214820295619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Because of nature of my job, it is highly important to keep my data very safe. Imagine the following scenario... Let's say I have a memory stick with an encrypted volume contained in a file called let's say work.dat (volume encrypted in a file with TrueCrypt... see www.truecrypt.org). What I want is to be able to mount that volume just by clicking on work.dat and entering the encryption password in the dialog box. I also want to make sure when I delete a file or a folder, it will delete forever (will be rewritten with random data - sweap) I also need to have control over all the log files in my system, but I guess that has nothing to do with Nautilus. I can perform all the above actions under Windows XP, and that's one of the main reasons I can't completely switch to Linux. I am really a fan of Linux, but since the type of work I'm doing I need to make sure that if my laptop is ever lost or stolen, none of my data will ever be recovered by anyone else but me. I know the stuff described above can be done in Linux too, but not that easy. You need to work around with different programs, and change the context menus in Nautilus. It would be nice if this was possible by default, because I am sure a lot of people are interested in a secure system where they can protect their data. ------=_Part_30606_21787312.1214820295619 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Because of nature of my job, it is highly important to keep my data very safe.
Imagine the following scenario... Let's say I have a memory stick with an encrypted volume contained in a file called let's say work.dat (volume encrypted in a file with TrueCrypt... see www.truecrypt.org). What I want is to be able to mount that volume just by clicking on work.dat and entering the encryption password in the dialog box. I also want to make sure when I delete a file or a folder, it will delete forever (will be rewritten with random data - sweap) I also need to have control over all the log files in my system, but I guess that has nothing to do with Nautilus.
I can perform all the above actions under Windows XP, and that's one of the main reasons I can't completely switch to Linux. I am really a fan of Linux, but since the type of work I'm doing I need to make sure that if my laptop is ever lost or stolen, none of my data will ever be recovered by anyone else but me. I know the stuff described above can be done in Linux too, but not that easy. You need to work around with different programs, and change the context menus in Nautilus. It would be nice if this was possible by default, because I am sure a lot of people are interested in a secure system where they can protect their data.
------=_Part_30606_21787312.1214820295619-- From michael.meeks@novell.com Mon Jun 30 15:37:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: nautilus-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51F97500DE; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:37:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.425 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.425 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.097, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_XD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.4-2.6 (up: 1845 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [195.135.221.2] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KUQz7T2H7hAz; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emea5-mh.id5.novell.com (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.2]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4832F7500BF; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:37:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] ([149.44.162.75]) by emea5-mh.id5.novell.com with ESMTP (TLS encrypted); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:37:35 +0200 Subject: Re: templates patch ... From: Michael Meeks To: David Zeuthen In-Reply-To: <1214836973.3329.37.camel@x61.fubar.dk> References: <1214341703.24396.4.camel@t60p.site> <1214517928.12279.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1214525455.3183.14.camel@x61.fubar.dk> <1214578066.24396.283.camel@t60p.site> <1214836973.3329.37.camel@x61.fubar.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Novell, Inc. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:35:08 +0100 Message-Id: <1214840108.24396.384.camel@t60p.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:11:20 +0000 Cc: Christian Neumair , nautilus-list , Hans Petter Jansson X-BeenThere: nautilus-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.meeks@novell.com List-Id: For developers and users of the Nautilus file manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:37:52 -0000 Hi David, On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:42 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > I'm worried that people end up with menus like these Sure - but empirically this has not proved to be the case in KDE - so we can relax ;-) > Create Document -> OpenOffice Writer ODF document > Abiword ODF document > KOffice ODF document Presumably all of them creating the same blank ODF document ;-) which sounds pretty lame. > So I don't think this feature you're suggesting is going to help anyone, > see e.g. how bad this works on Windows. This is why I'm opposed to the > feature. So - how can an administrator create default templates in these places for all users of all systems they administer ? And - as a better question: what default templates should a general purpose desktop come with ? what document types are sufficiently generally useful to make them easy to create anywhere. > One can also argue that it's still not discoverable how to launch the > word processor. It's not the launching of a word processer that is a problem - but using nautilus to create a word processing document: in a given place (ie. where the user might have a chance of finding it again when they browse to the same place ;-). > Back to the problem at hand, you want to make it easy for your father to > create OpenOffice documents. Typically when people use a full fledged > word processor they create documents of a given type. Hence why we have > the Templates feature. Does OpenOffice save templates to ~/Templates? What templates ? the system installed templates ? no - they are per system, not per-user; or do you mean the templates the user chose once ? if so - no, or do you mean the templates they authored ? [ that is done by a tiny sub-set of people ]. > If so, is this feature implemented in a way that compel users to use it? If > not, is this something that the OpenOffice team is interested in working > on? Sure - making OO.o's (huge) template set available via the right-click menu sounds like a disaster ;-) much better to have a single .desktop file that is launched: "Create new Office document" with a right click on a given directory that having been passed the right path will create a new document in there & launch OO.o on it. Browsing thousands of templates in a context menu is not a good approach: so then we're left with some evil UI feature such as a check-box: "[ ] add to the right-click context menu in the file-manager" that can be selected in OO.o ? ;-) But - really, my question is: why do the defaults suck here ? and what can we do about it; my patch improves that I think. If you don't like the defaults, you can hassle the packagers of your operating system to improve things. And yes - any sane distribution will by default (cf. KDE ad nauesum) not shove endless junk into your templates menu. > Another avenue to investigate is extending xdg-user-dirs so it can > create more than just directories; e.g. it could create and manage > payloads in ~/Templates just like it does with directories. I think > that's a more compelling feature as it allows users to manage these > instead of leaving the user with a lot of useless items in the "Create > Document" menu. So - wrt. the plurality of file-types idea; at least I buy the argument that it's slightly sucky to have "Excel spreadsheet" and "ODF spreadsheet" in the same context menu: would having a special desktop-file that could launch a more generic "create document" type help allay your paranoia^H^W fears ;-) about the grey-goo effect of this menu ? ;-) > In other words, what I'm trying to say with the last two paragraphs, I > think it would be useful to try and work with the Templates system > instead of brutally bypassing it. Of course, I'm not a Nautilus > maintainer but I thought I'd post my opinion anyway. My problem is, perhaps that I don't understand the existing Templates system you refer to. Here is my use case: * hot plug USB device * nautilus window pops up showing nice blank space * [ I want to create a new document in here ] My thesis is a right-click Templates menu should be -useful- at least on a new, blank install of a new user: and that (in general) the defaults should be good enough to do something useful out of the box. They are under KDE ;-) HTH, Michael. -- michael.meeks@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot