From thismagpie@live.com Thu May 8 09:18:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF9876957 for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 09:18:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3M8KgUgEq3Bl for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 09:18:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 346 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Thu, 08 May 2014 09:18:14 UTC Received: from dub0-omc4-s28.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s28.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.103]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC81762EC for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 09:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB126-W60 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s28.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 8 May 2014 02:12:08 -0700 X-TMN: [VCmGdssklCDcC1Vjygr1pvf4UDTWW8gK] X-Originating-Email: [thismagpie@live.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2981a53d-508f-4934-b8b9-93c7d072e866_" From: This Magpie To: "gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org" Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 10:12:08 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2014 09:12:08.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[96747CE0:01CF6A9D] Subject: [g-a-devel] java-atk-wrapper X-BeenThere: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussions and patches for at-spi, gail, and ATs" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 09:18:15 -0000 --_2981a53d-508f-4934-b8b9-93c7d072e866_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List=2C I would like to support the new java wrapper maintainer=2C Alejandro with t= he task of maintaining java-atk-wrapper since the whole module needs updati= ng having been abandoned back in 2011[1].=20 The first commit since 2011=2C were just this week and=2C it's fair to say = that the module has generally got a bit old and suboptimal over time.[2] I = reckon it would really be great to put a bit more brainspace and time into = improving things for java (by making use of what the most current java API = can offer=2C for example). I won't have much time over the next 3 months bu= t generally=2C I would like to have a go at helping get java-atk-wrapper up= to scratch when I can=2C as long as that would not be a problem at all. Does anybody have any thoughts about the module itself? Many thanks=2CMagdalen [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/commit/?id=3D3645e6dca48c= 461afa6d4ffa61a710c85b7bcf0c[2] https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapp= er/ = --_2981a53d-508f-4934-b8b9-93c7d072e866_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi List=2C

I would like to support the new java wrapp= er maintainer=2C =3BAlejandro= with =3Bthe task of maintain= ing java-atk-wrapper since the whole module needs updating having been =3Babandoned back in 2011[1].&nbs= p=3B

<= div>The first commit since 2011=2C were = just this week and=2C it's fair to say that the module has generally got a = bit old and suboptimal over time.= [2] =3BI reckon it would real= ly be great to put a bit more brainspace and time into improving things for= java (by making use of what the most current java API can offer=2C for exa= mple). I won't have much time over the next 3 months but generally=2C I wou= ld like to have a go at helping get java-atk-wrapper up to scratch when I c= an=2C as long as that would not be a problem at all.

Does anybody have any thoughts about the module itself?<= /div>

Many tha= nks=2C
Magdalen


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= --_2981a53d-508f-4934-b8b9-93c7d072e866_-- From apinheiro@igalia.com Thu May 8 11:31:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C30A76957 for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 11:31:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dqotbGCB9u86 for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 11:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fanzine.igalia.com (fanzine.igalia.com [91.117.99.155]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4A7762A9 for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 11:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maestria.local.igalia.com ([192.168.10.14] helo=mail.igalia.com) by fanzine.igalia.com with esmtps (Cipher TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim) id 1WiMXh-0005kq-6H for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 13:31:13 +0200 Received: from ip163.dynamic.igalia.com ([192.168.10.163]) by mail.igalia.com with esmtps (Cipher TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim) id 1WiMXg-0005T3-Vz for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 13:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: <536B6B00.1050500@igalia.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 13:31:12 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pi=F1eiro?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030409010709040309060509" Subject: Re: [g-a-devel] java-atk-wrapper X-BeenThere: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussions and patches for at-spi, gail, and ATs" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 11:31:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030409010709040309060509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 05/08/2014 11:12 AM, This Magpie wrote: > Hi List, Hi, > > I would like to support the new java wrapper maintainer, Alejandro > with the task of maintaining java-atk-wrapper since the whole module > needs updating having been abandoned back in 2011[1]. FWIW, I added myself as maintainer because the current ones stopped to work on gnome accessibility a long time ago. But due my lack of time, my work as maintainer would be similar to my small phase as Caribou maintainer: review the patches that the community upload to bugzilla (so they don't got forgotten) and doing releases if needed. > > The first commit since 2011, were just this week and, it's fair to say > that the module has generally got a bit old and suboptimal over time.[2] Around 2010 hackfest Ke Wang was providing commits steadily, but in the end he also got sucked in the Sun/Orable debacle. > I reckon it would really be great to put a bit more brainspace and > time into improving things for java (by making use of what the most > current java API can offer, for example). I won't have much time over > the next 3 months but generally, I would like to have a go at helping > get java-atk-wrapper up to scratch when I can, as long as that would > not be a problem at all. Does anybody have any thoughts about the > module itself? With your patch, we got java-atk-wrapper compilable. Next step is confirm that it is working. BR > > [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/commit/?id=3645e6dca48c461afa6d4ffa61a710c85b7bcf0c > [2] https://git.gnome.org/browse/java-atk-wrapper/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list > gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel -- ---- Alejandro Piņeiro --------------030409010709040309060509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 05/08/2014 11:12 AM, This Magpie wrote:
Hi List,

Hi,

I would like to support the new java wrapper maintainer, Alejandro with the task of maintaining java-atk-wrapper since the whole module needs updating having been abandoned back in 2011[1].

FWIW, I added myself as maintainer because the current ones stopped to work on gnome accessibility a long time ago. But due my lack of time, my work as maintainer would be similar to my small phase as Caribou maintainer: review the patches that the community upload to bugzilla (so they don't got forgotten) and doing releases if needed.


The first commit since 2011, were just this week and, it's fair to say that the module has generally got a bit old and suboptimal over time.[2]
Around 2010 hackfest Ke Wang was providing commits steadily, but in the end he also got sucked in the Sun/Orable debacle.

 I reckon it would really be great to put a bit more brainspace and time into improving things for java (by making use of what the most current java API can offer, for example). I won't have much time over the next 3 months but generally, I would like to have a go at helping get java-atk-wrapper up to scratch when I can, as long as that would not be a problem at all. Does anybody have any thoughts about the module itself?

With your patch, we got java-atk-wrapper compilable. Next step is confirm that it is working.

BR



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--------------030409010709040309060509-- From thismagpie@live.com Sun May 11 21:05:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Delivered-To: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2365762E9 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 21:05:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from restaurant.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WkA4tYggMnhV for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 363 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 21:05:14 UTC Received: from dub0-omc1-s14.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc1-s14.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.0.213]) by restaurant.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51314762A7 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 21:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB126-W44 ([157.55.0.237]) by dub0-omc1-s14.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 11 May 2014 13:58:51 -0700 X-TMN: [tEOWkP26NldqRLdDFBKyAyA97cL2131X] X-Originating-Email: [thismagpie@live.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fc57bb5f-acef-44d3-aa6f-94f8bfdd0187_" From: This Magpie To: =?iso-8859-1?B?UGnxZWlybw==?= , "gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org" Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 21:58:51 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <536B6B00.1050500@igalia.com> References: , <536B6B00.1050500@igalia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2014 20:58:51.0705 (UTC) FILETIME=[D00DCA90:01CF6D5B] Subject: Re: [g-a-devel] java-atk-wrapper X-BeenThere: gnome-accessibility-devel@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussions and patches for at-spi, gail, and ATs" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 21:05:16 -0000 --_fc57bb5f-acef-44d3-aa6f-94f8bfdd0187_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to support the new java wrapper maintainer=2C Alejandro with t= he task of maintaining java-atk-wrapper since the whole module needs updati= ng having been abandoned back in 2011[1].=20 FWIW=2C I added myself as maintainer because the current ones stopped to wo= rk on gnome accessibility a long time ago. But due my lack of time=2C my wo= rk as maintainer would be similar to my small phase as Caribou maintainer: = review the patches that the community upload to bugzilla (so they don't got= forgotten) and doing releases if needed. That has value. I can help with the patch testing and updating to lighten t= he load. A lot of features seem to rely on this module so it's definitely w= orth saving I think. The patches which got reviews will probably also need = to be checked again before they go in having been left a long time in case = they are no longer good to go. The first commit since 2011=2C were just this week and=2C it's fair to say = that the module has generally got a bit old and suboptimal over time.[2] Around 2010 hackfest Ke Wang was providing commits steadily=2C but in the e= nd he also got sucked in the Sun/Orable debacle. My knowledge of the 'debacle' is limited but overall the impression I got w= as that money got injected into java and when that ran out=2C developers di= sappeared and everything reliant on the java was left to manage with whatev= er state things had got to from 2011 to the present day.=20 The original investment that was made into the java and those products reli= ant on it seems a like a really a strong motivation to see it gets picked b= ack up. It seems a shame to let all the spent resources go to nothing when = there potentially is a resource that can be improved on and used to the ben= efit of the products which use it. I reckon it would really be great to put a bit more brainspace and time in= to improving things for java (by making use of what the most current java A= PI can offer=2C for example). I won't have much time over the next 3 months= but generally=2C I would like to have a go at helping get java-atk-wrapper= up to scratch when I can=2C as long as that would not be a problem at all.= Does anybody have any thoughts about the module itself? With your patch=2C we got java-atk-wrapper compilable. Next step is confirm= that it is working. This also makes sense. I suspect that it would be good to compile list of p= roducts that currently depend on the wrapper (if this does not already exis= t?) to try to define comprehensive testing strategy with those in mind. ThanksMagdalen = --_fc57bb5f-acef-44d3-aa6f-94f8bfdd0187_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=
I= would like to support the new java wrapper maintainer=2C =3BAlejandro with =3Bthe task of maintaining java-atk-wrapper since the who= le module needs updating having been =3Babandoned back in 2011[1]. =3B

FWIW=2C I added myself= as maintainer because the current ones stopped to work on gnome accessibil= ity a long time ago. But due my lack of time=2C my work as maintainer would= be similar to my small phase as Caribou maintainer: review the patches tha= t the community upload to bugzilla (so they don't got forgotten) and doing = releases if needed.

That has va= lue. I can help with the patch testing and updating to lighten the load. A = lot of features seem to rely on this module so it's definitely worth saving= I think. The patches which got reviews will probably also need to be check= ed again before they go in having been left a long time in case they are no= longer good to go.

= The first commit since 2011=2C were just= this week and=2C it's fair to say that the module has generally got a bit = old and suboptimal over time.[2]<= /span>

Around = 2010 hackfest Ke Wang was providing commits steadily=2C but in the end he a= lso got sucked in the Sun/Orable debacle.

=
My knowledge of the 'debacle' is limited but overall the impression I = got was that money got injected into java and when that ran out=2C develope= rs disappeared and everything reliant on the java was left to manage with w= hatever state things had got to from 2011 to the present day. =3B
=

The original investment that was made into the java and= those products reliant on it seems a like a really a strong motivation to = see it gets picked back up. It seems a shame to let all the spent resources= go to nothing when there potentially is a resource that can be improved on= and used to the benefit of the products which use it.

=
 =3BI reckon it wo= uld really be great to put a bit more brainspace and time into improving th= ings for java (by making use of what the most current java API can offer=2C= for example). I won't have much time over the next 3 months but generally= =2C I would like to have a go at helping get java-atk-wrapper up to scratch= when I can=2C as long as that would not be a problem at all. Does anybody = have any thoughts about the module itself?
<= /blockquote>

With your patch=2C we got java-atk-wrapper = compilable. Next step is confirm that it is working.

This also makes sense. I suspect that it would be good to c= ompile list of products that currently depend on the wrapper (if this does = not already exist?) to try to define comprehensive testing strategy with th= ose in mind.

Thanks
Magdalen


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