From david.burleigh@gmx.com Tue Sep 5 08:31:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA3676496 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:31:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nh1z67aNFnlQ for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 667CC763DB for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from debian ([68.118.26.147]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsgvV-1dMrvJ3UZF-012Fu7 for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1504600246.1955.17.camel@gmx.com> From: David Burleigh To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 04:30:46 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-DuRC+efT/QG9l/n7UVW7" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:bHMw8ba2Qjt60K8kD3qnCTHAHQ0BV8OL0aA7U4cU+W065ifsq1+ uZIMBwK5O64sF3mE+fNyD0aGh2+UR0k+nDTixl566kft9pMzo+X1W/4uDco19QIgjzXyOc0 9zDYonmbGuIGmmDGSbCEuuPDvuwMr7nlC51gmQtbOQRUsHnk7aNnjDIq6y6ae6ofuxd3lgG mVayydmpLUIE6mftS6qKA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:typNDV6pLNw=:ZaJE8eNVBKm4I/nhikQP/D VT/LHU7BqxoJiFWHK6o3WVxU86HZpaw9O4xvPae1YAOmKqvhLOKNJdIGr3NjdH+uQWbpW5ruc VynKEyN41Go1Vh100AOHfNTSuDpflP0f2vLbjR+7I6sZkTW+PpdXB+pwQDxfNkq6j8cjxL0PX isQd942joMozh8CdgfwrAfoF6AEOVmgToB3XvKpNhJv5nbjiPOmtl+NPROSBiOAOoZFJFUcE8 kCgZaoTSsyR2Nw20lSfecSoC5MCsR3noPDTEzPzK3g2JunxRwSlnJkDMy23nR72AeK687vNvN a3JJQZ/9V2RHy9AyOBbI74QC6TFj7qlpyYhqBqcNryZ9OsKXse1eQYpxvD2U/cdRi+GK0YRWL I3qY0vxfYLrvavjS72ysZfpTlPQ9h/3B9GP2s1UpQ/JYrk8Ryi5l4S5dRu/TueuPfExS9VF82 wYIxvkpkiwd66GB58oNwGhVmnzBFnAtrrER6c9h06J5zvXkhDCl8J6hfQu+w7uRkkM5ysKJmT srtFnLT/jHucgMBKFy9ME83s9MNYrY2+sFI7s3OEmxKyBt6yjyQqjBO4HPIVVAnQxIMl7qY11 DQ57R0Md4nkeGBuodP1iBFjoZ54j4d/W15G+EXtWsdkXPYS/u0iX3Zv6t1lnI0UsK/SndVUXy DNYDBmJ8oU1Zgh2w6EinVvgecsN8h5fMK3kp6NsIT/HlRHDM0HW/7su5FKmYjdaw/z2bWPfC4 Dds9fg3hKgE//gNoyIw0ArafT8MBSVMgEqMj4djUMifdMlmekw759oretxKoHpiw8Jsu5m/Td e5LY8sdh2SRbikIqgDMWZhNlfnpWNtLI8Dam7qU9br19SQXyAA= Subject: [Evolution] Wrapping long lines X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 08:31:28 -0000 --=-DuRC+efT/QG9l/n7UVW7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon desktop. Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to such messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of the original message. --=-DuRC+efT/QG9l/n7UVW7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon desktop.

Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to such messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of the original message.
--=-DuRC+efT/QG9l/n7UVW7-- From pete@biggs.org.uk Tue Sep 5 09:07:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4561B764BF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:07:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yZ0gNMdHvmUh for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk (pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk [129.67.104.51]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9715764BA for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [129.67.104.52] (helo=snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk) by pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dp9oB-0005T5-Vx for evolution-list@gnome.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:06:11 +0100 Message-ID: <1504602380.17171.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: Pete Biggs To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:06:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504600246.1955.17.camel@gmx.com> References: <1504600246.1955.17.camel@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-biggs-MailScanner-ID: 1dp9oB-0005T5-Vx X-biggs-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-biggs-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] Wrapping long lines X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 09:07:15 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 04:30 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon desktop. > > Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted > emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read > incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are > stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to such > messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are > wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of the > original message. Didn't you ask this same question about a month ago. At the time you were pointed to a bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739955 And told it was fixed in a later version. That answer still applies - with later meaning Evo > 3.23.2 P. From david.burleigh@gmx.com Tue Sep 5 09:30:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948E6764C5 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:30:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efjs0pih-FQX for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87580764AF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 09:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from debian ([68.118.26.147]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lk7fW-1dDLGG2cvq-00c74X for ; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 11:30:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1504603812.1955.21.camel@gmx.com> From: David Burleigh To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 05:30:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1504602380.17171.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> References: <1504600246.1955.17.camel@gmx.com> <1504602380.17171.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-QyR1KTWtFIIleTeuygCJ" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:NO9vrgdwo8ov46yolbz+oRYxQZ8pZIYZmwmAkqDoVFP1TYlOpTb BVdB9XFlRGH9sdZ9ul8VqzW2+g47ELPFeIPAz4OAkmqcB5tTE+5+cCWvhXwZS75xvVh9Q47 QkDvuBRj708x0IjOkmc30x8QVOQmwjRCC22dRsZ7LlT7YMPVqEoEMoSmm2wddH4Bb5B1HF1 psvIsCEeDxb35r1c1+umA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vVXIDFGlYtQ=:C72GgPYYe9J+EpdKrIrSBO u3VtKlLKAC8qwHhaZQM3tHrQ5AEo37+wbiUmmGBgIwOYVYa1V9PwK7ESaX9yQ1wmFg4bpdfL2 cI56KsL2/q3X7oqAhvrlu1GgBmyZlDcx4nvf5p3/znmXxWtR7OkUn0vvzkKTArVFlJs8dDS5t 7fIhXf2VuR8IBDOM+xla3Seih+gIHLBd7DNzS5FcBfh2eaB/LGKjE01K9aiuWSyfBZgP31oOG X4VAAqAWteMoU02Yh4idrkaeKQoSOUzt6babxsxVMfM/vcytO3eN16r31h0fTSwW9bf/Bl6g1 f+tKf/7KhH025fOrxE1iD6YARRnz4YNhelN9S3IxOYUeNOKFi2AjdfWPgySseQIk0AEtntgJ5 0YzbgYtHHwjl3QYnjA+91T8AVehQ3XBUNxmDdCWxFUiwM0RbZyxIRSyfDyRaQ67Esg1HIuJci 6b10KBM0fIv86nK2XdwUKRcP4HvJIG7oth3FqoQMC4Je1wtpsS8yF/nNeG0/91Jn4mVnXm1cc KC3MGP0A8OjrRVhVZ5xiO+qeCFP4GA4qDS5EXBRggohixkRj5tBEmAmXzoHS2HODjnnkjYWuA hAndd+hteQC+GUz0U6WhgaY7/IhRT42InWimc2IqwX4xhNCJnJ4O9EcYoMBrtMTdImNZohgFg USScpxNhK5DnkRsTAnT/1z1dZxUkYlmeK9m/Q09HowdhzLgSfczSal1EukgF6GVQViKqyBPZG dB1kvQh6n2vWQKjJ0axHXUVgvcBOHIe8bn2fyhCmuDjGovoMfUYhkaz6phLBkjXd7rq3q84Ew ODFIIlzziBklB0F0arHgLP+79w+qMxEfdwh8HdvcMfj1tD4tw4= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Wrapping long lines X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 09:30:50 -0000 --=-QyR1KTWtFIIleTeuygCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 10:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 04:30 -0400, David Burleigh wrote: > > I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon > > desktop. > >=20 > > Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted > > emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read > > incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are > > stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to > > such > > messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are > > wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of > > the > > original message. >=20 > Didn't you ask this same question about a month ago.=C2=A0=C2=A0At the ti= me > you > were pointed to a bug report: >=20 > =C2=A0 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D739955 >=20 > And told it was fixed in a later version. That answer still applies > - > with later meaning Evo > 3.23.2 >=20 > P. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Yes, I did, but my own outgoing messages not being wrapped in the preview pane is a new thing since I managed to upgrade to 3.22.6 (only by switching from Mint to Debian). That wasn't happening in 3.18. I guess I have to run Debian Testing rather than Stable to get to Evolution 3.24, but I'm leary of that.=C2=A0 --=-QyR1KTWtFIIleTeuygCJ Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 10:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 04:30 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:


I'm using Evolution 3.22.6 on Debian 9.1 with the Cinnamon desktop.

Is there a setting somewhere to wrap long lines in html-formatted
emails? It is very tedious to have to scroll horizontally to read
incoming messages, or even to review emails I have sent that are
stored in the Sent folder. I have found that if I click Reply to such
messages, even though I don't need to reply, the quoted lines are
wrapped in the reply, but they're not wrapped in the preview of the
original message.



Didn't you ask this same question about a month ago.  At the time you
were pointed to a bug report:

  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739955

And told it was fixed in a later version. That answer still applies -
with later meaning Evo > 3.23.2

P.

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Yes, I did, but my own outgoing messages not being wrapped in the preview pane is a new thing since I managed to upgrade to 3.22.6 (only by switching from Mint to Debian). That wasn't happening in 3.18. I guess I have to run Debian Testing rather than Stable to get to Evolution 3.24, but I'm leary of that.
--=-QyR1KTWtFIIleTeuygCJ-- From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 11:27:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7151876A23 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:27:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.891 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 241nZz51qjxb for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6CD476553 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:27:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mHXS3QL0L2L8EQZQlh0RlsRjwNvuognrcTGRiEYexlA=; b=YkUtLTEFyYbKN0gagjdM8I8E+ 5RZ9RZJIf+xTpOW7ZE6bB/XIVU+TqLTunP9r23pWsMT6uHcPWEo1ZbB/doISuGhlFcqadC23Pw/bu +QzP55gQxK0n+N4eFaxgajOykN5OUURQ+slAQ9N1pDLBmxq7k+Mk/bCBetf0hPCRazIvQpthPsadv an+NP2HA8aksSH2MT1SK/0pyx8+CwtW85rpammZqjRMnNtz8OPD7/A2x6bcfHGojIaOL7CUn24OH1 BQSSPyzFE+JXvqC5bIFr6lvdp1JKEQzeGdvbFNApD344HWB+I5+1Eln+xUVdLmkl6vWd+Y0DtI2pX h1Zb1WT7A==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:58d5:1335:9d7e:fe7b] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dpuxv-0005Rl-A5; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 11:27:23 +0000 Message-ID: <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Milan Crha , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-41fooDYV/D6MtZ5gosoK" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 12:27:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 11:27:28 -0000 --=-41fooDYV/D6MtZ5gosoK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2017-08-21 at 17:01 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-10 at 10:38 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >=20 > > A separate program can invoke Evolution to send an email, by > > running > >=20 > > evolution mailto:someone@example.com?subject=3Dblah... > >=20 > > Is there a way to open and pre-populate a new meeting invitation, the > > same way? I'd like to put in the initial recipients and meeting > > information, then let the user finish it off and send/save it. > > Hi, > there's nothing for it, as far as I can tell. There is a URI to show > existing events/tasks/memos, or to move calendar view into certain > date, but nothing to open the component editor and prefill it with > certain values. Thanks for the response (although yes, it really did take me this long to notice it when you didn't actually send it to me). Do you think it makes most sense to add a command-line option for it, or attempt to use an EPlugin? I'm working on a Pidgin plugin for an IM/meeting system, which can currently allocate a meeting ID and pop up a window saying "cut and paste *this* template with all the dialin info, and make sure you include *these* recipients so the IM/meeting system knows about it." Obviously I'm trying to eliminate all that cutting and pasting for the user. The Windows client for this system comes with an Outlook plugin; perhaps that's the best way to do it in Evolution too? 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l91sm3384796wrc.16.2017.09.07.04.32.35 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 04:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 12:32:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 11:32:40 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > Thanks for the response (although yes, it really did take me this long > to notice it when you didn't actually send it to me). You posted your question to the list and Milan replied to the list. Why would you expect him to reply to you directly? poc From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 13:01:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF3A76553 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.891 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QyQA1XEL83P3 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6D3D764AD for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 13:01:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=qaZCOdUnRT5/F/v+obBLAw/FlXO++6K4QvJQYFKPmn0=; b=usGvPaMKzecCuPyb5xpUd8my4 C5nvD+P5xTPvswedg3ZKfj+RECGuL/Qfi5NPWfu05TR3Ic1Q3uqm4E5LA/dUuCRH2La7zi6Ot4JnR 5yj9HLYWuavSuTsR3NVbf3QYbciUMIdOw4LbTALP32/X5nbmwSW8wZVCMM8cRIaCoioVN4zvBjEMC ejrRZUUJd1e1acejdhXlxg9i21qqfjAprxIpRMIZUGNmf1HTIo4v6CbFYwkpCme/nIQKYt4wiKE9u fN2GdbNNVBpIuiHxRCx+B2R4jpHI4xPJIzz+ljJ13yswt2V9f7r0c85Yyi9t9KtZoWmQeHe2PM+18 DEeX/KWMw==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:58d5:1335:9d7e:fe7b] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dpwQa-000723-Cf; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 13:01:04 +0000 Message-ID: <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Patrick O'Callaghan , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-T2wT8rnPd3yqETZfSwbk" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 14:01:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 13:01:10 -0000 --=-T2wT8rnPd3yqETZfSwbk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:32 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >=20 > > Thanks for the response (although yes, it really did take me this long > > to notice it when you didn't actually send it to me). > > You posted your question to the list and Milan replied to the list. Why > would you expect him to reply to you directly? Common courtesy, mostly. This has been discussed before, with reference to=C2=A0http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html Basically, when replying one has a choice. Either you can risk a minor annoyance to some people by causing them to receive two copies of the message instead of only one =E2=80=94 which might= be slightly annoying to them if their filtering isn't set up right, but at least they've *got* the message, and it tends to err on the side of visibility (i.e. in their INBOX where they might want to fix their filters to put it in the list folder). The alternative is to risk a major annoyance to other people who are cut out of the discussion entirely, or at least for a period of time. I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some reason. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t68sm891618wme.15.2017.09.07.08.36.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 08:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: David Woodhouse , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:36:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 15:36:47 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:01 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to > fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some > reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of > yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out > of mail threads so that they never see messages at all. I seem to have hit a nerve. My filters work fine and I have no problem with duplicates. I also have no desire to "deliberately cut others out of mail threads" but if someone doesn't notice a reply to a question they themselves have posted because it went to the list they posted it on and not to their personal inbox, frankly I'm not going to worry about it. I simply wondered why you were complaining about Reply-to- List, which is widely used both here and elsewhere. It appears from your essay on the subject that you would prefer Reply-to-List be removed from Evolution (or its behaviour changed). I'm fine with it as it is and will continue to use it when appropriate. Given the number of MUAs that don't support it, including the various web clients and TBird (IIRC) it will probably fade away in time, as will plaintext mail and inline quoting. I think this is a pity but frankly can't be bothered arguing about it. poc From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 15:51:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CAD76553 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:51:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aGOHfFimqTuc for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05D3676BAC for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:51:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+pxhrUpUrB81iJGY8FYE/v17XTabSWkovt/R4dbQR6Q=; b=sibgQ7UsWa7NUVmL4JSNQPVpM Ld85ccaEsp0tRT7F3vOGXQ1doC6ZO8xllfCuetTLOeQL9cS0jRjEsIR2wAsozmZOJct+YKhOBS0gB yOhpVlvEToD3vcajTzM9hxkGKJtLrgTNm8jV27MRHmdgZIjv0TnjoAOoMBi9A31uQur0xTDZLAQsA 6IPFoB8vRwaLhQGAY4TORVvmm6vTulxNvIJV1OOaXclL+A774aF0R/Rn9shh9/Va26YaTRlrFPsS4 fggZzAJL5RxMhCdkb7+7+iSa/14Akfk/7fDbr6fccgyUazdhNre9FFjSTdhO/afYsgDDX1IyiAX94 5ijTBlWsw==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:58d5:1335:9d7e:fe7b] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dpz4z-0001UB-S6; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 15:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Patrick O'Callaghan , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-Ke6OlEio8kHpLeNqpape" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:50:57 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 15:51:42 -0000 --=-Ke6OlEio8kHpLeNqpape Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 16:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:01 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to > > fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some > > reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of > > yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out > > of mail threads so that they never see messages at all. >=20 > I seem to have hit a nerve. My filters work fine and I have no problem > with duplicates. I also have no desire to "deliberately cut others out > of mail threads" but if someone doesn't notice a reply to a question > they themselves have posted because it went to the list they posted it > on and not to their personal inbox, frankly I'm not going to worry > about it.=20 I understand that you don't have much sympathy for me when I posted to the list and didn't see the reply, and that's fair enough =E2=80=94 but in = fact I *did* remember that this problem happens on this list a lot, and keep checking the list manually for a few days. But the response actually came 11 days later, but which time I'd stopped checking. And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. > I simply wondered why you were complaining about Reply-to- > List, which is widely used both here and elsewhere. It appears from > your essay on the subject that you would prefer Reply-to-List be > removed from Evolution (or its behaviour changed). I'm fine with it as > it is and will continue to use it when appropriate. Out of interest, is it that you don't *care* that you are cutting people out of the conversation =E2=80=94 permanently, as well as merely temporarily delaying them seeing the messages as in my case =E2=80=94 or is= it that you still don't think that's what you're doing? (Thanks for *not* doing it this time, btw) If the latter, I'd be happy to update the document. I've tried very hard to include the simple use cases and factual analysis "above the cut", then put my opinion/conclusion at the bottom. > Given the number of > MUAs that don't support it, including the various web clients and TBird > (IIRC) it will probably fade away in time, as will plaintext mail and > inline quoting. I think this is a pity but frankly can't be bothered > arguing about it. I think Thunderbird does unfortunately support it too; in fact I have a vague idea that we "learned" it from Thunderbird. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h14sm4738wrf.78.2017.09.07.09.23.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: David Woodhouse , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:23:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:23:57 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 16:50 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 16:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:01 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to > > > fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some > > > reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of > > > yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out > > > of mail threads so that they never see messages at all. > > > > I seem to have hit a nerve. My filters work fine and I have no problem > > with duplicates. I also have no desire to "deliberately cut others out > > of mail threads" but if someone doesn't notice a reply to a question > > they themselves have posted because it went to the list they posted it > > on and not to their personal inbox, frankly I'm not going to worry > > about it. > > I understand that you don't have much sympathy for me when I posted to > the list and didn't see the reply, and that's fair enough — but in fact > I *did* remember that this problem happens on this list a lot, and keep > checking the list manually for a few days. But the response actually > came 11 days later, but which time I'd stopped checking. I don't understand that. I have Evolution filters to sort list traffic into folders, and the folder list will show me a count of unread messages. My default folder view is also set to Unseen. Barring bugs, I don't see how you can miss a reply. You don't need to remember to check for it manually. I occasionally see replies to messages that are weeks old and I've long forgotten about. > And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users > who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. I'd be interested to see examples of this, other than people posting questions *without* being on the list, but generally those who do so are careful to mention it and ask for personal replies. > > I simply wondered why you were complaining about Reply-to- > > List, which is widely used both here and elsewhere. It appears from > > your essay on the subject that you would prefer Reply-to-List be > > removed from Evolution (or its behaviour changed). I'm fine with it as > > it is and will continue to use it when appropriate. > > Out of interest, is it that you don't *care* that you are cutting > people out of the conversation — permanently, as well as merely > temporarily delaying them seeing the messages as in my case — or is it > that you still don't think that's what you're doing? (Thanks for *not* > doing it this time, btw) I didn't think I was cutting anyone out, and have never been told that it was happening. No need to thank me. In the case of this thread you left me no alternative since once you use Reply-to-All the List-* headers are no longer present in subsequent messages, so the Reply-to- List option is not available. That's why I prefer Reply-to-List -- it preserves more information, which MUAs could potentially use. poc From mcrha@redhat.com Thu Sep 7 16:56:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA3E76BB9 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:56:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.902 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fnnxA-C5SmtK for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0A5376261 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55A3B7E42C for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 55A3B7E42C Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-74.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-74.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.74]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF49B5C542 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1504803411.28330.9.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:56:51 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:56:28 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:27 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > Do you think it makes most sense to add a command-line option for it, > or attempt to use an EPlugin? Hi, the plugin, or better module these days, gives you more freedom, you can do many more things and fine-grain the output when using the module, instead of being tight to what the command line might limit you to. > I'm working on a Pidgin plugin for an IM/meeting system, which can > currently allocate a meeting ID and pop up a window saying "cut and > paste *this* template with all the dialin info, and make sure you > include *these* recipients so the IM/meeting system knows about it." Pidgin already depends on eds, if it would be easier, then write the evolution module in the Pidgin code base. The main question is what you'd like to achieve. Either you want to give users a chance to edit what they schedule with, including attendees and such, or you want to create a meeting request and send it using their mail application. The later can be done just by issuing mailto: with referenced attachment, which would be the preconfigured iCalendar object. The former, well, you would still prefer to create the iCalendar, which you'd be able to pass to an ECompEditorEvent instance where your users can do the modifications, pick correct calendar and so on. I can help you with some basics on the evolution side, if you want to. I'd rather do it out of the list, can be even in bugzilla with a link to it here, thus anyone interested can follow it or check it later (hello, archive readers). Bye, Milan From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 17:21:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025876BB9 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:21:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.091 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.091 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txHLcztClGwA for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07A51760A8 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:20:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=scXCSlBkVVpD8BKXGtY83QiQiurhPCv0xy1dslYzV4s=; b=r3oeSnQBOpCJmSidpxx8TxaBq ruBfYilqUh0iPgGN+4+39JVRrYvcg8FuS3EM9KUuyeZL3rIgSOZ9QD1187ODZkKxEY9Yj0iSPjKyd vf7qlFoFllNphVcJcICwdeKkGaFJLPrn04cwGq/xTom8LZIuwHC8u49TfjKV2AwcQ1NZ0synYiFge PTEWU179Zh473oo72oAGJA/vRX8mGXbMbhoPKxlaMRnI4xESPBElVxsu9pLSNi/8PTr00fIpqRHI3 +Sy/xzr7UkhgKW0tQkbR/ii6GC1c9VQo+AVF4u1Q05J9/imPGhndD1+40lxzeDZ43sbcrkoLr2O3F y80LNyIfA==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:58d5:1335:9d7e:fe7b] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dq0Tf-0002rU-Tr; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:20:31 +0000 Message-ID: <1504804831.10643.314.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Patrick O'Callaghan , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-qKYgzJohI0rf4sjweLxP" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:20:31 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:21:07 -0000 --=-qKYgzJohI0rf4sjweLxP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 17:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I don't understand that. I have Evolution filters to sort list traffic > into folders, and the folder list will show me a count of unread > messages.=20 I do that too. In 138 mailing list folders there are 688,252 unread mails. Plus the 35,564 in my inbox :) > My default folder view is also set to Unseen. Barring bugs, I > don't see how you can miss a reply. You don't need to remember to check > for it manually. I occasionally see replies to messages that are weeks > old and I've long forgotten about. >=20 > >=20 > > And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users > > who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. > I'd be interested to see examples of this, other than people posting > questions *without* being on the list, but generally those who do so > are careful to mention it and ask for personal replies. The page I linked to gave examples, with bullet points. The main ones being other lists and subject experts who are relevant to a specific thread but not on this particular list. > I didn't think I was cutting anyone out, and have never been told that > it was happening.=20 Oh you really have. 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X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:27:37 -0000 > > Oh you really have. I've referred you to that same document before, I'm > sure :) No, it was me you had that argument with many years ago - hence the mention of me in that document and an explanation of how I do everything wrong and how I needed to be told how to set my filters up "correctly". I ignored your advice ... P. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r72sm88832wmb.9.2017.09.07.10.50.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504806601.2435.35.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: David Woodhouse , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:50:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504804831.10643.314.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> <1504804831.10643.314.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:50:48 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:20 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 17:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I don't understand that. I have Evolution filters to sort list traffic > > into folders, and the folder list will show me a count of unread > > messages. > > I do that too. In 138 mailing list folders there are 688,252 unread > mails. Plus the 35,564 in my inbox :) And having the reply in your Inbox is going to make it noticeable? I suspect your problems are beyond the capacity of a reply policy to solve ... > > My default folder view is also set to Unseen. Barring bugs, I > > don't see how you can miss a reply. You don't need to remember to check > > for it manually. I occasionally see replies to messages that are weeks > > old and I've long forgotten about. > > > > > > > > And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users > > > who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own. > > > > I'd be interested to see examples of this, other than people posting > > questions *without* being on the list, but generally those who do so > > are careful to mention it and ask for personal replies. > > The page I linked to gave examples, with bullet points. The main ones > being other lists and subject experts who are relevant to a specific > thread but not on this particular list. I'll take a look. > > I didn't think I was cutting anyone out, and have never been told that > > it was happening. > > Oh you really have. I've referred you to that same document before, I'm > sure :) No, don't think so. poc From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 17:52:13 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB53676290 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:52:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ycrWYoxUCOy for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E65B76BBB for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:51:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ObS2aEYXIz0neSotSG+7CbcrUOUSxd1nzG6rBQqzuj8=; b=vOYuVsJFabTcIRi40WswbgEcK 62D4RURGxP/ir37x15Gq0ZVxYe1TLL3MwWAnFZK+LraBQffXy3r0uurdeDDCs1z2WTYy4v3Ce4zGm m2f0ceikggr9eK5jgjKGQojPNpqbZ9Jr3Q6W+8dN8weOWHRGeZlfAaY3RCbyxYPGORakj+xnSr8ZD bibK2Bjv9QMnzZ6IiTiK+rauDA3gE8Xi+voioYH5xgdgJrRKVMBmdKVN/opT5UZfD0syCwnigYGUu A8gRkojCzRXOQt79cvdsGDYWAFlyw6llhN6Gn33PFFV2R94vW/qMqUoqxYxJ+VTn3ME3unQHlmQGN NgsZhJFGA==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:58d5:1335:9d7e:fe7b] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dq0xd-0003KC-6e; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:51:29 +0000 Message-ID: <1504806688.10643.316.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Pete Biggs , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504805202.24326.76.camel@biggs.org.uk> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> <1504804831.10643.314.camel@infradead.org> <1504805202.24326.76.camel@biggs.org.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-vYWXjy3aFfZoh3Y+Rf+j" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:51:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:52:14 -0000 --=-vYWXjy3aFfZoh3Y+Rf+j Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > Oh you really have. I've referred you to that same document before, I'm > > sure :) > No, it was me you had that argument with many years ago - hence the > mention of me in that document and an explanation of how I do > everything wrong and how I needed to be told how to set my filters up > "correctly". I ignored your advice ... Ah, that makes sense. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c30sm111063edf.26.2017.09.07.10.57.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2017 10:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504807054.2435.40.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: David Woodhouse , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:57:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1504806601.2435.35.camel@usb.ve> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504783954.2435.0.camel@usb.ve> <1504789263.10643.272.camel@infradead.org> <1504798599.2435.13.camel@usb.ve> <1504799457.10643.290.camel@infradead.org> <1504801387.2435.31.camel@usb.ve> <1504804831.10643.314.camel@infradead.org> <1504806601.2435.35.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:58:20 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:50 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I'd be interested to see examples of this, other than people posting > > > questions *without* being on the list, but generally those who do so > > > are careful to mention it and ask for personal replies. > > > > The page I linked to gave examples, with bullet points. The main ones > > being other lists and subject experts who are relevant to a specific > > thread but not on this particular list. > > I'll take a look. I took a look. The page does not give actual examples, meaning real examples of real replies being missed, which is what I was interested in. Much of it seems related to consequences of cross-posting, which is in itself discouraged on every list I'm a member of. So far, this is a non-problem as far as I'm concerned and I'll keep using Reply-to-List until I see an actual example where a reply of mine has been missed when it shouldn't have been. Others are free to do as they please of course. poc From BATV+40b146e9b5ca510691e1+5128+infradead.org+dwmw2@twosheds.srs.infradead.org Thu Sep 7 19:54:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0500764BB for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:54:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jEOVHWtfV0yV for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from twosheds.infradead.org (twosheds.infradead.org [90.155.92.209]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5C9776290 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:53:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=twosheds.20170209; h=Mime-Version:Date:Content-Type: References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QAzCW2SvCm/F7jCwInDyXKjnNCoa7w6bW/S3CfuHuMg=; b=qq66d03Pk6ErQqS5Bn3v8lofC 5VpZVBAc4rYZ66SkeEEVaOKHeSXhAJJP8FLrJ1kJwk75TCmb0RZANXJJ1vxh8ezHYET7m1vVSC/60 Jn6yl/fMzCMUjIkJac3SkyluNGaS02pqZCnI5w1iB666ZGFcUb0vbAGc5lGond8MIOC/pu+eOiWjZ O6kCmHgV6xIC+CRNif2xAv+nd4IuDmHg6XoHrUUTU9Z/9j0EKEvKbqqjVJlehrfhSfWySYTyj+EU8 tuOO+caf8xPa/MbsFVuvrix1BYRS7A5yk28/aYwO8UzuLD+ghhtF1OAJCWy7DX5UfrJ7O2I811YU8 Sn0fHhcIA==; Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1:6826:b122:31b4:82f1] by twosheds.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.87 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1dq2rc-0005Ff-Or; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:53:24 +0000 Message-ID: <1504814004.10643.354.camel@infradead.org> From: David Woodhouse To: Milan Crha , evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504803411.28330.9.camel@redhat.com> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504803411.28330.9.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-7YChYX8ZloRi2oPYv2Oc" Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:53:24 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by twosheds.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:54:09 -0000 --=-7YChYX8ZloRi2oPYv2Oc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 18:56 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: >=20 > Pidgin already depends on eds, if it would be easier, then write the > evolution module in the Pidgin code base. >=20 > The main question is what you'd like to achieve. Either you want to > give users a chance to edit what they schedule with, including > attendees and such, or you want to create a meeting request and send it > using their mail application. The later can be done just by issuing > mailto: with referenced attachment, which would be the preconfigured > iCalendar object. The former, well, you would still prefer to create > the iCalendar, which you'd be able to pass to an ECompEditorEvent > instance where your users can do the modifications, pick correct > calendar and so on. Obviously I'd like to do whatever's most useful in the general case. For my specific needs, I definitely need the editor. All I really get from the Pidgin side is the meeting dialin information (and passcode), and an email address or two that need to be included in the invitees. So we cut and paste the dialin info into the body of the invite, then the rest of it is using Evolution's Free/Busy lookup, addressbook autocompletion, etc. When the IM/meeting system receives the invitation (because you added its special address to the invitees) it learns the time / subject / etc. that you chose and sets up the conference bridge with those details. So for my purposes I really do want to pop up the meeting *editor* with just an invitee or two and the invite body populated. That's more of an Evolution thing than an EDS thing, which means I don't necessarily already have anything in Pidgin to support it. > I can help you with some basics on the evolution side, if you want to. > I'd rather do it out of the list, can be even in bugzilla with a link > to it here, thus anyone interested can follow it or check it later. Thanks. 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cjbsMH+2Wuuqj/s9Hx0N8QLtV5VPpdEEmljQEh/IAAAAAAAA --=-7YChYX8ZloRi2oPYv2Oc-- From mcrha@redhat.com Fri Sep 8 06:16:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A071976BBD for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 06:16:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kYQnshaXBSlx for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 06:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A47477631C for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 06:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F04A7C0587EB for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 06:16:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com F04A7C0587EB Authentication-Results: ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-129.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-129.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.129]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634AE6BF89 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 06:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1504851153.2133.4.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504814004.10643.354.camel@infradead.org> References: <1502357933.17440.146.camel@infradead.org> <1503327702.27126.13.camel@redhat.com> <1504783642.10643.264.camel@infradead.org> <1504803411.28330.9.camel@redhat.com> <1504814004.10643.354.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:12:33 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Fri, 08 Sep 2017 06:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Creating calendar events from the command line X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 06:16:59 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 20:53 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > That's more of an Evolution thing than an EDS thing, which means I > don't necessarily already have anything in Pidgin to support it. Hi, only to clarify, I didn't mean that you have it in pidgin already, I rather meant that pidgin already (conditionally) depends on eds, thus adding similar (conditional) dependency on evolution for it might not be a problem and maybe less problematic than trying to figure out how to send data from pidgin to the new module in evolution. Let's continue on your bug. Bye, Milan From aidanjhorn@gmail.com Sat Sep 9 16:10:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFFF764AD for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 16:10:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lC3KQnoDMNkH for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 16:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com (mail-wm0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F2BD762E2 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i189so18048104wmf.1 for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:09:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TA6R0w1/6U/4c2oeRkLG0Y0uAJMGVAx80jHjVg3ROpg=; b=Y72S6Jy8o4Dt/vVRJVmNSLQ/zmGyj/lQY/TTKaKuVwhBrKURCWXe2aH5z6KoWTJw1t Vk/aJtsaYw2D/LIKkOD/PgBI9tPUyjHb9aDknwvuxWqcO8S/aF2e+c6sophrC0Dhu3Oo JhRWcCqa8YsO5R3dKJoUcpCisPjLIydrmscJdXMe68BByRzAz/ZX0eHMfG9lBSsxHvhI iTKgK/AKxycGyBwERCX3k7nrrpHMd1LUYPCr3+n/yrKbs2eawfeb14J3ZuddMb6EVZZP S7ai0QWxICabrQnW7LI+EFbLUt0Bz7aff5h0JfMMpf4U+wyKHt07Yjcf9JG8N/69P9of S5Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TA6R0w1/6U/4c2oeRkLG0Y0uAJMGVAx80jHjVg3ROpg=; b=W4yv3RqftfkYhaXSB+0w9ZJ//k1LbfQtpnKNbpXpUFgZOkqIprzhI21DPRsXujeOPr gGmngCw8pxXTitFmxxA5RFo53iGMZY85qEK1A6ern1IF206C2Q/i8mBo3R+9+D7cuLib PCZ3kDq0Q+tmcORM5XnPiRQRVAQ9YzEcEELi8POpWSJTOjlxSF3kpDGYMmyzOw8Sujc8 H7k+Cezm93Aaj2NAyYGU1NUsZa3gptN1YNQInITyvJ8gtxiQz0h1ixf/DtizQ4HaH64H 1dUYIsPglBanYM0883EJuYaxg9MU8/nE2qN3LQn2JmTtAn8/m1a6HZwIdIbgO8KLRKAp cO0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgr/xHr+hGZSfqdRVeeZRnyAi+HfCPm2ThmWYw/tZ3cB6VV9JjQ XdsCLylqk9ZLC+IC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb4LALLTm8FOGbfGDFz9ChKhleuz1fpgSVHPwUlYG+gAxtn4utg3bjj/uvbz9XU5n+ntBaVDaQ== X-Received: by 10.80.227.199 with SMTP id c7mr5086201edm.45.1504973387709; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aidan-MS-7996.Home ([197.86.176.26]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q24sm813632edb.51.2017.09.09.09.09.46 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1504973083.11666.4.camel@gmail.com> From: Aidan Horn To: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 18:04:43 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Evolution] Stop next message from displaying in individual window once I delete a message X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:10:12 -0000 Hello I downloaded Evolution today. I don't use the preview, but I read messages in a big individual window. When I delete a message, I don't want the next message to be displayed automatically, but I want the window to close. How do I do that? Secondly, I assume there is no way to see the first few lines of every message in the main window, without opening the messages, like in Outlook? Thanks, Aidan From paulepanter@users.sourceforge.net Sun Sep 10 09:10:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A18976229 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:10:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gjt0um5UL8yz for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gw90.de (mail.gw90.de [46.4.124.165]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10B8F761E9 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [2a02:8109:8a80:2472:e39a:b8c3:6d51:df10] (helo=mattotaupa) by mail.gw90.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dqyFx-0000I8-LI for evolution-list@gnome.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:10:21 +0000 Message-ID: <1505034615.2901.81.camel@users.sourceforge.net> From: Paul Menzel To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:10:15 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-HHjhMXiR0YwcZDWsdb66" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Evolution] Importing Mailman list archives with mangled addresses X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:10:46 -0000 --=-HHjhMXiR0YwcZDWsdb66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Evolution folks, Due to some SourceForge.net problems, I was cut off from several lists, and want to import some Mailman archives, to be able to properly reply with the correct message headers. I use the coreboot list archive from August 2017 as an example [1][2]. Unfortunately, the email addresses seem to be mangled. For example @ is replaced with * at *. No I imported that archive with 3.24.5, and these messages are now mangled. Is there a way I can repair that? 1. Remove the messages I imported. 2. Fix the archive (probably the user has to do that) 3. Should Evolution abort the import, or warn the user, if it notices these problems? Thanks, Paul [1] https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/ [2] https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-August.txt.gz --=-HHjhMXiR0YwcZDWsdb66 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQQ8+w9d414FAVARIpk9fVorbA4dWAUCWbUBdwAKCRA9fVorbA4d WCusAJ4p8wW6eSc9Oej2ITADByD+Qne+kQCfV3sLx6DXZp3Qtc0GJ4Vm7zVJHZ8= =lwOc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-HHjhMXiR0YwcZDWsdb66-- From paulepanter@users.sourceforge.net Sat Sep 9 08:43:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D66376C00 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 08:43:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36F1-RIwUqcR for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 08:43:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 2353 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:43:23 UTC Received: from mail.gw90.de (mail.gw90.de [46.4.124.165]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9837649D for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 08:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [2a02:8109:8a80:2472:e39a:b8c3:6d51:df10] (helo=mattotaupa) by mail.gw90.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dqakJ-0003p2-5C for evolution-list@gnome.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:04:07 +0000 Message-ID: <1504944239.7143.137.camel@users.sourceforge.net> From: Paul Menzel To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:03:59 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-HujfCq+zXBxo1M4GQ0T1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:04:32 +0000 Subject: [Evolution] Support GnuPG Web Key Service X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:43:54 -0000 --=-HujfCq+zXBxo1M4GQ0T1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Evolution folks, To make dealing with PGP/GPG keys easier, there is now a protocol to upload keys by email to a GnuPG Web Key Service server [1]. According to the Wiki page KMail and Mutt already support it (in their development version(?)). Would this be useful to add to Evolution? > For those who want to integrate support for the Web Key Service into > a MUA but do not want to fiddle with the server side of things, we > are happy to provide mail addresses for testing. Thanks, Paul [1] https://wiki.gnupg.org/WKS --=-HujfCq+zXBxo1M4GQ0T1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQQ8+w9d414FAVARIpk9fVorbA4dWAUCWbOgbwAKCRA9fVorbA4d WMyyAJ4+nDZEBTZ0Srl4BEFTcF1J60J9XwCfdYtkCaHx8M9RKfVgs/eahUUYrMA= =ArJs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-HujfCq+zXBxo1M4GQ0T1-- From sven-anderson-vegan@web.de Sat Sep 9 09:56:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C197649D for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 09:56:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.248 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.651, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UQOaxFqafqaT for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 09:55:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 307 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:55:49 UTC Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.4]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0302D76C04 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 09:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.219.164.130]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJpnI-1driry3EBw-001C0o for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 11:50:38 +0200 To: evolution-list@gnome.org From: Sven Anderson Message-ID: <469fd8f2-54e5-93e1-9958-01d6f00d12b0@web.de> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 11:50:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------83F6D85806E1B4F5A4D1D278" Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eysSh/TB0ClCVC+vNiBiQMVIoO5qwssaF+3/igEWWAdPI+pkcJy fD7fHj2thI/+gqzLg1Rb+CO+xv2Yh2vmz9n3noh+3FHQgfuBKjMfJ1GSd8xWhX/qsurbLvr sqy4edLgxcLt1sfvxKoQkYcGHTfngxABwjV/XFipHODZZko9olCb5pM3so9lCmeLINxtKd4 517inglUkRQIKzS67KFJg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:UU3xprCHIhQ=:Vk6b4mkJ4SXgrm15y0mYR1 tksAf8bG1u+NaGPQbB0W5w3/99Z+I8WIKSnASnF13CcOq9oDJfzdZZeE5xGApUQugmraK7tWA eE59QUstGpYZvhnXbL53I1BN82ZgarfAULbZhrfRoRAY8c+5jiRkz9sH1BLhqxMu1+Ase2vkE NuUphJX6dfLEVTXTVEjE7Bf2vxV4bphMrsel4QOZD/zpPmZMVUJ/7fwH/igAHB+UzBcq7nYNI Zre6czvWLk7803ZQ8wMCKSiqsq2Zzigj1925fY1PznCDJNbhq/CyNBVyRJFMCFhGV5TJz7tdJ yAIpQoQdG364+GfT9ZGVJmlG/EOdFSnsSNgCvnFioASks5AKdi2j3xP9+aR/L5aWsu1IfWOzS /Zv8S92Y4fodNHH7evl1QTdhiBAs9KZAhSiQQ9VOVpw6UJUpkn+WJP8rUfryJAN/sGrJBrYi7 buoE5P8L6PUHQZfTOajAgUCP/ius98yiIg5kK/Bdo5TGoZSluNQcybdwVejiD4qVM9dSUwsxB F3554/qUnuaKCv9KeTz9ihx5BVb5Ki2buGAhDwcUo0ZdgC68VfcewNUtXRiBKVLae0zWjPNPv kllhccP1v4Vr0qa5j9MsXwsCysfC2XzKe2iXNgKeBKUmw0DgDudfaQoOzpo0aksCEylNxxVSZ 3r8+81XBIPRX3hhz3SK68QtsvqPJIOYiv3OB/G7SL7rV3TrUY56i1IpvVmhYJz8y22k1muDOA yS6SyU/DQ3o/If7XXwpSpZhqy44sKK8Fz5EAmUxu8wnQQYfmFXDVx8horj2hZs5AL+TzV1wUU X11q3BbdffvuU8HH5wspIIUb6NGYA== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:04:32 +0000 Subject: [Evolution] google contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:56:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------83F6D85806E1B4F5A4D1D278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dear friends, I using evolution contacts and adressbook since a short time, but the contacts from google adressbook which have special name in google adressbook are not showing by this name....like that: only the main category telefon or fax are showing, but not the individuel names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts? best regards svenniboy -- --------------83F6D85806E1B4F5A4D1D278 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------B1A18FE4989992E9148ADE55" --------------B1A18FE4989992E9148ADE55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
dear friends, I using evolution contacts and adressbook since a short 
time, but the contacts from google adressbook which have special name in 
google adressbook are not showing by this name....like that: only the 
main category telefon or fax are showing, but not the individuel 
names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts?

best regards svenniboy
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10 Sep 2017 15:09:23 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4WX2f+W3D4OIEQByRR4+GdgkVzquWPByr4546o1EIYvgtcCMubr B3+hO8OvsViQUcT3+RfZMmT+YkvD/uxYVotr5lqA9It3k9HpGKSPcgV1UFNLbda0MtPywVP 0U2XL3J9lMyEiyWIqoUUcuLWlUu46JqnpLWIYypg1oWHDuMXQ9dJEbqxcNhHgZ9MR9gX9/m RaXcV9pWXALGwecMfcIbg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ystt28aXeqg=:EhGF+ARBWyq0tK5y7X+cla v7phD4ytlVU1TZnNOHNmYa6JheTl3Ag+SA7UwS8bWOg1MQulXunm2HxNA9d1ZctopVW9C7c80 5uc5xckc6RjtnDHvPfcMov6niNDO9TJ1OzXj2mZtzCWxDICV5cPWOTGunUufrqtkmKUUx1JbV VoxFGzggD4uO7jrFvjdztYHLwa/SpoeF1yiSOqE5FpbXl9X+SbUOQxDnNx3gPjsgRcTaE2qIU VRheg2AuCMPg+0yCX+kHBM/7DywhpbjYbuAtiTNBiRF9RjuQJEms1W9DTEXWNFXjj/eFgw4AB HKR/6XWXtENHsU0AI7DyZP3HvV+Fu20OooK8o2xQ5EL6KadHivQT001+XMRKSGcdkCzhSxdM1 SHjh3yuKrrhU5wUepOJjeoZWjkQaX767cizO9rvP55+n+CGjMd7gg/kir7IakQ+7PmLzuVoC4 Nr2f6RFt4o8vrKZSpjZ7XIOLYuHUTqo7elX4BzU/rQRf8jAA2KtgfJC8ROLmFrpUREQLwNLDJ 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individuel > names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts? Which exact Evolution version is this about? Also, exact steps to reproduce the problem (step by step) in Google and Evolution are welcome. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Sep 10 13:13:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F5276229 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I77GE_G9O4z7 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD49761E9 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([82.113.52.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lfppu-1d7ScV0DZC-00pOA2 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:13:05 +0200 Message-ID: <1505049176.31299.67.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505034615.2901.81.camel@users.sourceforge.net> References: <1505034615.2901.81.camel@users.sourceforge.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:12:56 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ZMoX58dxgIOhzo/5wmZcwi+sR6fyHA3GBvqKUM08/CLChShMIEf CPdmlgJoCxCNjBSNfFtB9OhUQt88/KB7b4GtIGEQzEfR++bdpXIsHDUlbhkXbv20bnHgqUY lP4ROXlim5Ji9zGr1W+88MoLqkrKPKCPSpzM70V3Xxsn/p5TD/2m7vK4dBJ4SbTzkVqIqi0 QMXZqEZwhOC7aIRdS0znw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CI7gx9aSHuk=:pKvqPJUGe33fPXGC3dCdRe CZxUxWaYcHaytyjnSScvq52W7TS8tPiq3Xgn/Go62mnysojnx39QBBjweGQ2ULZVSUcdfLxN2 6HQnE9B9DIALu4Se3CSWxvn3Yk5cAoKyqds+m3YyXozjnSa010xKhCd4rjUh3xaWBdXY38Wj+ pqlhwIondFEu0eXbCeKkERRxk1dY8nl/TL68GtSmYfbx/5GabTGOwnmPUB9IOAV7Nf2Zk88O1 dlM0ft9MtfG3tI5HGZOtvj+CobEyhBRgTs2KGAt1AW1HdQcCBNAJYOmD5zlzLW6RL6nuSnNZ5 +3jZgW6aQFakU0r58Ek9urTAxvNgt0SwyF1e7XRDPgPp/dsJcEiMRlYETmblZ7ge08zmaU3Uo z9e0dS0N/m5tc3+zvFyTBhFMBVA7b/L+Dkzk5LKL8qht0yW7cG8wYCOakiYGOpBcigfCY2ASA tDJDbKRGpqgO9xAckS7VrAJIJfV0LYvwk1ntQ7d/dR4sT3OyqJB8JWyztKLa3ydeWdfDi+WII XMMZppgZ21ol/QW6HI4F76hyoYVJKJIedzoA7QQLoCcFhAOBRC4gzaw6HbP/9BAL+D13KRynp cpd5PISGLyjM4dK+S7fg2vaALksARF+E8gPaWcu0JsjznflXf5JKUSorvYSNlR19BNwsnyCO3 gBGldSkEMFTx5aAGMWPIWs98AT5dX/A09XgLfhv7Id39HV6o++isHfaL+Xn8BMO26zCx3CFXY 4Th5630qdsgQLcfd0MtDgTu+bnaMQUvQkh+Km3mUFfn+mozU6Jlo2SGw3OuizJZek0qsoavw/ EmUJObKPoP/hU78mwa+bk/SPooxKu3y2A17UngOKC4j+wVc/Mc= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Importing Mailman list archives with mangled addresses X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:40 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:40 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:40 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:40 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 11:10 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > Due to some SourceForge.net problems, I was cut off from several > lists, > and want to import some Mailman archives, to be able to properly reply > with the correct message headers. I use the coreboot list archive from > August 2017 as an example [1][2]. > > Unfortunately, the email addresses seem to be mangled. For example @ is > replaced with * at *. No I imported that archive with 3.24.5, and these > messages are now mangled. Is there a way I can repair that? > > 1. Remove the messages I imported. Well, Evolution allows to delete messages. It's not that Evolution globally remembers your last actions and you can click "undo" and your imported data gets deleted, if that's what you have in mind... > 2. Fix the archive (probably the user has to do that) Out of scope - use your favorite tool to manipulate text. > 3. Should Evolution abort the import, or warn the user, if it > notices these problems? No it should not, because "these problems" are not well-defined. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Sep 10 13:13:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BD6761E9 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9T2Q8Bz3JQad for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7678E7626A for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([82.113.52.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LaoMe-1dBKV203yK-00kQw3 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:13:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1505048849.31299.60.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504944239.7143.137.camel@users.sourceforge.net> References: <1504944239.7143.137.camel@users.sourceforge.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:07:29 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GPd43jLe8euMd+qg1rO0jPVW3jVVqSPuMsc/4sOaXLKNzbcBqnq 5z0Lk/2O6hzhU1PL5bAkAFQ7Xey2nzxslkZD4ZxnKyjirQMIMDl3KxOq7WyU549J75dFrNO 10hRwKw2mgsAOZfyFcly/ZIZa3nNjJixa1Z7Zw8RvjCk/3K6+sJN7Ncv/4TluE34Qm+JO4e rwMcwTHJtOUkDJ8zgEdoQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Z6VasYjM8eE=:FdAW7raF9PTVLDYjSbNdJi 3WNbp9mErapBkCmuqGztKdl84EVvkuR4xeTvuDlOyGt9r+nlOJ/EWDPA+s6E2RI3iIUancyzT YHyKunG+0ZUtVm0utmwkkFqFWM1trymeOBNQMT4JSqKBdDCkPrPaXvQ6SGbn9HU0QYpOLPQXK bIdOrJa1tG+00lRBs6v2iDkHRKyQpPaqZb9Nzh6Zv2d6PO6wNkUqqbI1OVi0ooOpLICA0h1mI kXdoxVlcxfrbtxsgqyRWEP1peuxZTCLIrgdRmYhQsvuPMCz+wbyxV6yRyYXbY0sdglIcPkEob H9/tuLWTVg0h8jakdKdsMw4UVZmNlTSOxmkkZCY0L4W6RP0f+zXrPnPv1ZoE7ewIVc4eGRTjQ 84woUYbL+IHPtY00CwMmJMpk6rTn/mapQ6RujJGipiIdylCY1nLoJFet7b7E9XYelSrzuJVNL 2iKNA5G1cF6vZ2uiT26d3ofhjIpa4O27ZfMCLw/r4ebiecdKSiu0zFb+PHY9k7GpA36Z9NaXE ibIZUvR/YVSDqLyrluFlaRjkWcTyPyP7DhGGX4cXgcaV7T597hiyo/PfUZlHsXpO1GO7e/eVQ QkOrPrPtvukzge1uNnn5ngJtI59GeRjHqcRAIfl4lTMnQN29rUMpHyfSa6bte0D2qWPh9oE8C cuq1vmbdPu4XEUWm4HqxszjhO1J4MEO8TWuwxin+KB2lZ7yPBqzHiZzkCYHau14P+yoD/bPu/ S4allaKEoTiK5Qs0PCGIpijHdujr4HlOBE2J10bQBhwIYrR/Cl6H2v778DwCNSACHQvF0FF5r CJSKz+BzRwiUetLNsBahiBF+7q7UjPT0liebOZRNkPpj8zrMAU= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Support GnuPG Web Key Service X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:13:42 -0000 On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 10:03 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > To make dealing with PGP/GPG keys easier, there is now a protocol to > upload keys by email to a GnuPG Web Key Service server [1]. > > According to the Wiki page KMail and Mutt already support it (in > their development version(?)). > > Would this be useful to add to Evolution? If there are clear instructions for *developers* what an application needs to do to support this, feel free to file an enhancement request in https://bugzilla.gnome.org andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From silver.bullet@zoho.com Sun Sep 10 13:44:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED8D76269 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:44:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tvnOAmpo6YYw for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE0A77625D for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:44:26 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; b=uN/c4Az+UeKf3o1+j75T0SSZ3qV9YFc6ZtcrIJWg33Nm69rBdBedh9gsQ84e/GT1UI48bavJM+xf nPj0gWU56CNjsmpg3sSHXb2LmkvCo+ha+eNuHhiaSa0C0l9rRSNq Received: from utnubu (x4e32155a.dyn.telefonica.de [78.50.21.90]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1505051061749352.38490338882707; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 06:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:44:20 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20170910154420.4bdc4b54@utnubu> In-Reply-To: <1505049176.31299.67.camel@gmx.net> References: <1505034615.2901.81.camel@users.sourceforge.net> <1505049176.31299.67.camel@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: [Evolution] off-topic: Importing Mailman list archives with mangled addresses X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:44:58 -0000 off-topic: >On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 11:10 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: >> Due to some SourceForge.net problems, I was cut off from several >> lists :D I'm subscribed to qtractor-devel and alsa-user, even while I followed all announcement of sourceforge I couldn't post to alsa-user anymore, but received digest from alsa-devel. Changes I made for alsa-user, resulted in a confirmation mail of alsa-devel. Sourceforge sucks! From silver.bullet@zoho.com Sun Sep 10 13:50:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF407625D for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:50:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ksGO6ivRq4-v for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0458876269 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:49:45 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version; b=fc1m897m3uQCEFwoL/EF3jM4avQTkoWecnfrHZgxDt+1JFBNuzb7zw6QLtKnFU5FiwLspkL90Ojt H/rShIpV+YReyj6GVM/wcyyG7+k271+bwjhCDRk++IhRLPfLmtZO Received: from archlinux.localdomain (x4e32155a.dyn.telefonica.de [78.50.21.90]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1505051380620983.1210295398183; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 06:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505051379.855.1.camel@zoho.com> From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:49:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170910154420.4bdc4b54@utnubu> References: <1505034615.2901.81.camel@users.sourceforge.net> <1505049176.31299.67.camel@gmx.net> <20170910154420.4bdc4b54@utnubu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Evolution] off-topic: Importing Mailman list archives with mangled addresses X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:50:26 -0000 PS: Even the sourceforge wrapper around mailman IMO is a PITA. From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Sep 10 14:11:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A357630A for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:11:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BqzW-HaD8Ri6 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57B5A762AB for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([82.113.52.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjIit-1dJMUT1Yw3-00dTgt; Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:11:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1505052610.31299.79.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: Sven Anderson Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <15156939-466d-a3f3-d6fb-c8c5884c7bb6@web.de> References: <469fd8f2-54e5-93e1-9958-01d6f00d12b0@web.de> <1505048963.31299.63.camel@gmx.net> <15156939-466d-a3f3-d6fb-c8c5884c7bb6@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:10:10 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hTDSzf4XKgN8BohVtMaqp8Ce6QJoaPqNYJ7JcMWvoOHT94ptA0I od//Yiy8J6RSHSpxSTWDdNIULKj/vPrK00ud/5cEWMqHEhjX4s+B+35JhOGhzR3IHpThNXO WecmDCN3LWClSvqd5p8Nd6APg1HKtXd4bsBhSOm2NnEuR3EjuARJIOgtwcUU2RjM0dnCf8Y H/7eWSXP/JE4LPCcZ+kIg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:J5qlow+3+uM=:lPZvVAHIAaW7BuzAqGPFh7 Ck6VH/2B5zjUDjjGQl6ISyInLevkeVGDVMGzSlsWbM/MCQLdtWZbK9KRdqKP96qNDvgeB1gqP YCPRH64qu0oDK7n+oLW1vHPBgnzyWrCSSpz5Jx5wJ52f+EMNoB+2BXMcStMNZGNkh59oAmNWQ vjdLZO2PfiVj2GYVR96YjF3TTjnOYRf158yBiZkDYmIFJtTzvQx8TicpD6UJAltXCxGAsqIcy ZicoTd09HD7LT/L8VXMQMnjc/q/FiuKT57vkL/ty6cVdmIPbuJNftM+f73Sldve1acbvNfdtX uCwArZHGr3Mr/ZQEP7YHtfqXRdGsRjcQcUBAydngTXLkfpqZ3WERvv/9UX0cEmb2XSTRaWN4n n1CEblVjT3SqRyViWe+wsQaedt0tA/R7w7325ldxgAAIZBH/OW+8Uz/i4qZDwhfi4AWV4DWWO VAlrBWOCUOmiGB1fAC4ea7Fm7Oaw0+TU+L0/4YvuqVHHk450ooNmz/QPZqgwyE2KcOLBYlRzT 5eu9ZxLueUnsKEw6Ki9l8oC8KkRQvqB4f0LW7O8i3CbS9lB4XhLARK8XTxdEdIgujVuHTNXZp Du72c655WZ8UO0V88agV1qXGemC/S3kwun6M3fCrdggWT6GiO62M/wPiEzChjJpz/ZITFjnv/ qM7Q4W+unYDVy/0Y25/x6YmGer6fXscM2cLVOOMne6ErRPmJMn2G0BBYojapEkr9he5D8fLWH u9acmdeSjvnZtSRueu6RiTUsShodNpwzfFs1xAMofBfLf1+0aJ+gfvoU8RTK2Ur/tmqnMc8dv loL+lwROWWkdiOMhcU0OjwisMdfONvF1vM23Gk2cQuy0gaAY/4= Subject: Re: [Evolution] google contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:11:45 -0000 [Please reply to the list. Private messages don't help others.] Hi Sven, On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 15:29 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote: > hello andre, it is version 3.18.5.2 under ubuntu....what you mean > with step by step? > > Am 10.09.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Andre Klapper: > > On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 11:50 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote: > > > dear friends, I using evolution contacts and adressbook since a short > > > time, but the contacts from google adressbook which have special name in > > > google adressbook are not showing by this name....like that: only the > > > main category telefon or fax are showing, but not the individuel > > > names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts? > > > > Which exact Evolution version is this about? Also, exact steps to > > reproduce the problem (step by step) in Google and Evolution are > > welcome. Steps that allow someone else to reproduce your situation. How to set up "special names" or "individual names" in a Google address book? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From mcrha@redhat.com Mon Sep 11 07:30:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E412676304 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:30:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0pw6B2QY7xzx for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62E76762ED for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86235C0C8B89 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:29:38 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 86235C0C8B89 Authentication-Results: ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-68.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-68.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.68]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6EE61F27 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505114747.3065.8.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1504973083.11666.4.camel@gmail.com> References: <1504973083.11666.4.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:25:47 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Stop next message from displaying in individual window once I delete a message X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:30:11 -0000 On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 18:04 +0200, Aidan Horn wrote: > I downloaded Evolution today. I don't use the preview, but I read > messages in a big individual window. When I delete a message, I don't > want the next message to be displayed automatically, but I want the > window to close. How do I do that? Hi, there is only an option to close the message browser window on Reply, but not when deleting the message. > Secondly, I assume there is no way to see the first few lines of > every message in the main window, without opening the messages, like > in Outlook? Unfortunately neither this is possible. This would require cooperation from the mail providers and neither then it would be easy, especially with HTML messages and the conversion from HTML to plain text (see what message structure the messages from Outlook have, the beginning of the HTML part is a long CSS description, instead of message text, thus getting message body right would be tricky for HTML messages). I don't say it's impossible, I think it would be interesting to have, it's just that it might not work for all kinds of messages (plain meeting invitations as sent by Evolution itself too). Feel free to file (or find, if there are such filled already) enhancement requests in GNOME bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org Bye, Milan From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Mon Sep 11 08:27:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7997635B for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:27:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gv5BVfCUa-HD for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (mail-yw0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 835A676210 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id q80so19982447ywg.2 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jx1d+c+sIJXfIPlU6aOc0kkWVWSMyeZKubmPNfh+EMc=; b=VjQxIgpZrE1iOYSNaFiNmC4asDquCCMsCIqlMGhQM2hF8mAXM9yA6QJ0hPmnwJ2yl8 VMPfyF3bQm+87wZ8/jlwMXTCP8DpyjTpdRk00VrlY12FP7SJ5WJXXUBuvuOgav8XoSLt lCBvQzh1OFBI36AuKLYPkDsEnlBf+EnqvmpdL/lvxgMAKBb0mUC6Yr8Eab7v2I0dJh73 eJ1eFIMVe9JFP6Ds1TPxiF1wY39LS/stOFiL/CunZuutjntr/x59bnxdqkQsVV1b57pj 9820xmFISzF+CXVK9UTVggcJBmNFvoef4of5VdHHBBfSl5pKk/lRTHoWkO7R3DliLUJV TiUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jx1d+c+sIJXfIPlU6aOc0kkWVWSMyeZKubmPNfh+EMc=; b=RNPHo7NU0fAcQpof54rt5EKwJjm/CMNfhy9F4BgKfxlGcmHS2ov/YrLu+naaCnN/wA zvHPagQOJT4GD5Ju4FG0p4wpxf03EkxfFWWO9TpYboXMj5EytjsRpKa+i54mG9EV1u2J MBpACvDMZdVbAvD+rUvJWJaDRra2h6JcOlvw3D8e1MlK4LHa61bj2eo9JrtemHSe62kG Huf3R98PMWwmZsaH/fq/CXWY1nkMUqSst9Qdv4KEmBn0BuEFfNKDy1ozgeppJMwjd3sZ 4V3cgJlwhRvEF0In2QLPpLc1cpvP0qlE823GXGXgorCuXVwx5hfnYAyej0LfO0yEgszz ksjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjR89/wyKGDN+CV3OkwSnv6h9lD93Ny/a1C7+BU1wts86zzK8MK 2aDh5pKvUMNT9NJjAH30iZpBGj/jUQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb6oM6n5x7nn9gJwU6zzZX42IjMV1OE4a6LauVaQYIY8OdeEmG4UZtW3vOgyRDT/2q0Yd8q+behCsLA52oK/q60= X-Received: by 10.13.204.213 with SMTP id o204mr3937870ywd.1.1505118440074; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:27:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:27:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:27:44 -0000 Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not sorted by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or something else. Now my mails were sorted all by subject and this is sometimes wrong. How could i do this? --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From pete@biggs.org.uk Mon Sep 11 09:22:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0119C762ED for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NqpGM0rMawO7 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk (pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk [129.67.104.51]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E40E76496 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.39.21.152] (helo=marcie.chem.ox.ac.uk) by pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1drKuK-0002pB-Ls for evolution-list@gnome.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:21:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1505121695.3736.32.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: Pete Biggs To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:21:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-biggs-MailScanner-ID: 1drKuK-0002pB-Ls X-biggs-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-biggs-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:38 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:38 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:38 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 10:27 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not sorted > by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or something > else. > Now my mails were sorted all by subject and this is sometimes wrong. > How could i do this? > Do you mean View -> Group by Threads (Ctrl-T) P. From ak-47@gmx.net Mon Sep 11 09:23:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B0D764A1 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:23:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DOvVeJbUPosh for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF49762ED for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([82.113.52.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ltqmn-1dQD6H3rTZ-0117sw for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1505121742.31299.94.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:22:22 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:dtD7jWOiSpeXTOT4sSW/KEYAvIkZ++J6ybwHbaqMLNHxQa+GXMe CF5zdC8ra2WAWCYdTmKDpGlJs/OU9+tvyz7Eq3gK81B/wwfX8B8+xsZVe4+yo6s0hIF/fCm N96xjK9BtyitPrBWufeZAYx3V9tpZTe/VU85V8pHa9wwCKaBAL2BEXyAN37Tn+8tR5tHa0F fkYZqslzbRk3tY0BzaYgA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:A930LRNVLXc=:ugR2w5DMdJ5Z9bkBXjLX8/ iBNaus2S2ypTJeW+QAsqg+Y9AFMo1Min6Nh6Jk44YU/AFjnscr2SegZtZ3XrlYuw4BI+lxlzK q8rSNRO+DtgINcoXoVs6k3EnPRGt6LpJLP6Yqw48ukjdJTRh8XoIKDA+bdmoBaNRYX9413paH xNfWBWJxwAiO2BdSWLFeku2Czh2pHfXVYyWhBD3bVoHJRux1+PcVXwUBdTy4mGmzWuTSOvrk/ 2ZaJI1FszWp1pzYodJEIZUwK3JA2UgrPC0kbpXHTjMcpqdwWtwkyvffmEo3S9ZCA/z+0HJRRR 3g/h+1kkkdZWBG3jsAbY62lWXZT8Op3wBKTRXeb1a1eZu+oife7ODZktmzUAqGa2RKYy9WBXJ bu/897hFJ46Fu3CfW6M46moVofe9XTJfcvZqvYhkEYXDaflPIKMLRLVFN0AD5WByMaivoekGg 6yQK/NAodDW5+llrSKDXup/AKcR6RWfr8UQJnfPEOLIBqmXgS/7T644F8SmRtY1zpwRvrrlM1 ACBFZFH4ejli9lOIWnGDprIKNaI6JRZZA44jGSDDPlwWKaHq1f4s7RRf3BI5WDGj0EH+G48fq Q9SIahyzsFquywjcXWlY7ROLSAgJy6lkbkMqyHfWvmHWWEk2CgrjKm7NIna271c5ONatTZ/cS U54Rf6HGSDcx45hmU4WHM8lo41SAC7IoY71bLeHgO+8ifgsN/lpxvXbyNWnJg232OP80VrR2X cnLSZ4SfD/5r7LTsxkpN0Lz8crED/qlkIfo8Q8j/huSsamNcZYjHvntygWRoo/eGRG2ktxu+a HYc+va3E1OczK8eVOPHTLl4DPOmEYiN0tGkUW5t1kJ9AOfXc+o= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:23:12 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 10:27 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke via evolution-lis= t=20 wrote: > Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not sorted > by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or something > else. > Now my mails were sorted all by subject=20 What makes you think so? As far as I know (developers might correct me), the headers in https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-recognized-thread-relate= d-headers.html are applied. And your "Sort By" preferences you have not mentioned: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-sorting-message-list.htm= l Cheers, andre --=20 Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Mon Sep 11 09:28:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7207649D for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:28:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qFRq8uLEfN9A for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f169.google.com (mail-yw0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF601762ED for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q80so20253192ywg.2 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:28:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P2Fe5nPpVKzsYFs0f3DOJFy0uwcfH3q6vOOlikQVy+M=; b=Aa0VU2AcLTjdL/O9T0NgmncQLKT2trLNhp7mpxE6sceTVajjnn9FdSL++vqsQZtFi5 iCq1q5p/T4tk3xxnqDHCAlYWCDDfSH+vOPkm0Sfqm2Fevxny5IcRJbV/iLAFihLe4wco h51Miib6wS7hIpq3F/wk3SPeMxk+cI5LClrYvReOYuU2D5OG/3qYdv8Olg6DU6QFDwdq 6780+7fy+gPRcI1r44xcdEolXuyiAlDSZoxYBBl92puE/8dE87pwWd0HCNPWORxYXDzN VpTErS/WHv3IB9nREkXHwwIHNll3naEuop/GSsMBpEo9L5lCYLnnDkDbQLEboPmg1OWO Gfcw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P2Fe5nPpVKzsYFs0f3DOJFy0uwcfH3q6vOOlikQVy+M=; b=cKRrYcVIoirennMe5zv9OsEnxxQ0TWGGGGCkU/5MPz3DjdfV3pqkEsAHYN4PmDeOYX BVAaeZN9IvoKQrD/aaPsr7Os3NS6m9tx6EMoINu+dhaTH6qh0bFi17hdeA+qA0/eiX8d X/PMY5tfIW96rbyPCOCSIYmcY1CoxCGLvHueupcG7aNzN603Nr0ucjFjPEEFGqr+ePHV w9v7CrXugD4Nom/mFbql6elEkLoFGMSU8jeqt/IsvcUNG3F4CiBEK19G8jADMRiKylvp vxtwDffqkv85GDWVtsnM7Oe1Tm2XcZR6JcW77djBAzTnb63xERVG7Q2i+J9dGBSQMGgB HjgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUj/U4CZh+hhUQDD5fsVUmZFZvVaQQZQq2it4h5JPhUCmBrteWxc otbRk3ierRQjucJ7WeoGuBRsQUvrXA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb4YOkeSFvseDUrTsE3WOfoBFsF6hKKESP2JpFPQto2FvRCiY0VeZX8FavMN0Telk//ssbRj2Ydufpfvo/RZgi0= X-Received: by 10.13.204.213 with SMTP id o204mr4033763ywd.1.1505122099441; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:28:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:28:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1505121695.3736.32.camel@biggs.org.uk> References: <1505121695.3736.32.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:28:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pete Biggs Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:28:42 -0000 2017-09-11 11:21 GMT+02:00 Pete Biggs : > On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 10:27 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke via evolution-l= ist wrote: >> Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not sorted >> by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or something >> else. >> Now my mails were sorted all by subject and this is sometimes wrong. >> How could i do this? >> > > Do you mean View -> Group by Threads (Ctrl-T) Yes, this sorted exatly by subject but i get some messages with same subject, but with different context and they make it very difficuld to find some mails. Sebastian > > P. > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Mon Sep 11 09:31:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7234D7649D for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:31:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.112 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q0Ri_6T9RnpQ for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com (mail-yw0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC294762ED for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v72so18141510ywa.3 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:31:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kxpvJwG+o9498x1+xLalc4ALyw4oVELtqBNlbkQcUPM=; b=ZfwCnIgJpTIVPFrrq8QVH1im52P1efP9KqWYN+9tO0AgJqh2nnUgcewwSb6YbFeRhF RqsPxeyrQ0tuTGDlJfsWAM+ZtN9ljlqHwJOKI01Euxj8RnjavJAbXRqX39z2GYDLicDA O3dGVEtGtPQt0FCd8Ha0bMaN/lHYoizY3hNexmtoR7jtnTtjNNS5HhO6AI3IlhH2ZmIV S25FdQxaCeC9gRNouzJueffU4kcuic+iGqXFCCLZakhDp9VbjYFCqYT8NxNd8OPh/JY7 LmWSL6Np4gm0hbGPWAYGmgw7wHwzH3MCdByLyOCBweEZX0RoD0OjFYwS3dPITtfod91s 3WiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kxpvJwG+o9498x1+xLalc4ALyw4oVELtqBNlbkQcUPM=; b=fmIoYLBY5sjO0jbt7wg5SXIaXH9p1oKxTOv0jzg0A5i0KET9TN/Bl6IlyQOWonX4iw RgiXK/RPXKwVp7q15CYLVoStOnPtQSpby37680yRf90Tntac3b4tRd47+ZKUFMw1zfw4 UzpFXyVXxDmCgluSGjZ9++INUPKl9ZzwDwU4Ax41mnDoDQGJFyGPco3EN13YCHmaBZs5 eY5fmKbuf1dL+z5NXJRGdStpbC4gHtXVvxamMtBoG9/Sb8yi95g2Ls+81XX1RHeU/e6x zqxzq5XKVW00USD4n0WowF0t8ATvQlJyVnK542sQeIBBhDLguejqdlJ//UOf5ZtUbiSB DDdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjQiqLCVu88JrkHXgXn4Y5ZC2zKE0X9plI0f1Ar9lM5MccT4luc UveCLE3sTV/58fttfezGTXNWQHTbCw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDHbWdR7AEz3aYselLMIV8MbJNHYcJKckIvcSSi+K25sz41otFrJbNZwwXMI5H1P5aAAT30XaG0S4ApcC1stBA= X-Received: by 10.37.64.80 with SMTP id n77mr8676135yba.196.1505122269549; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:31:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:31:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1505121742.31299.94.camel@gmx.net> References: <1505121742.31299.94.camel@gmx.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:31:09 +0200 Message-ID: To: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:31:32 -0000 2017-09-11 11:22 GMT+02:00 Andre Klapper : > On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 10:27 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke via evolution-l= ist > wrote: >> Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not sorted >> by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or something >> else. >> Now my mails were sorted all by subject > > What makes you think so? > As far as I know (developers might correct me), the headers in > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-recognized-thread-rela= ted-headers.html > are applied. And your "Sort By" preferences you have not mentioned: > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-sorting-message-list.h= tml > Because the same mails viewed with thunderbird are sorted different and looks "better" so me. Sebastian > Cheers, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net > http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From pete@biggs.org.uk Mon Sep 11 09:36:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC1763DD for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:36:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55PePKQGHHbA for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk (pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk [129.67.104.51]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 480957649D for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.39.21.152] (helo=marcie.chem.ox.ac.uk) by pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1drL86-0002tr-21 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:35:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1505122549.3736.35.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: Pete Biggs To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:35:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1505121695.3736.32.camel@biggs.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-biggs-MailScanner-ID: 1drL86-0002tr-21 X-biggs-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-biggs-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] Threaded View in evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:36:52 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 11:28 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke wrote: > 2017-09-11 11:21 GMT+02:00 Pete Biggs : > > On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 10:27 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution- > > list wrote: > > > Hi, i want to use mails in my folders as threaded view, but not > > > sorted > > > by subject rather than sorted by references or message-id or > > > something > > > else. > > > Now my mails were sorted all by subject and this is sometimes > > > wrong. > > > How could i do this? > > > > > > > Do you mean View -> Group by Threads (Ctrl-T) > > Yes, this sorted exatly by subject but i get some messages with same > subject, but with different context and they make it very difficuld > to find some mails. > OK, there's another setting in Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Preferences called "Fall back to threading messages by subject", untick that and it will only thread by the References header and not by Subject. P. 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I have to wait till tomorrow until the nightly jobs were running and send mails. 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[193.206.67.163]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r15sm4316496wrc.30.2017.09.11.04.32.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Sep 2017 04:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505129563.4801.46.camel@unipv.it> From: Andrea Vai To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:32:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1479807937.1845.2.camel@redhat.com> References: <1479115949.9742.25.camel@unipv.it> <1479735566.21795.7.camel@redhat.com> <1479805817.11093.10.camel@unipv.it> <1479807937.1845.2.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 (3.22.6-2.fc25) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Search for exact phrase in body of mail messages X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:33:30 -0000 Hi, Il giorno mar, 22/11/2016 alle 10.45 +0100, Milan Crha ha scritto: > On Tue, 2016-11-22 at 10:10 +0100, Andrea Vai wrote: > > I would like to know if there is any hope to have it working on > > IMAP folders, too (in my case, gmail): what would be the right > > direction to ask forward? > > Hi, > the Gmail is a pita. It works with a different IMAP server for me as > it > should (the phrase quoted), but fails with Gmail. > > Probably file a bug report in GNOME's bugzilla against evolution- > data- > server sorry for the delay... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787542 Bye, Andrea From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Tue Sep 12 12:37:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FAA76AE4 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:37:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CEI_wV-Dek8F for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com (mail-yw0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E03776BD0 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f172.google.com with SMTP id q80so27841075ywg.2 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:36:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4bDEEBROUVdRwz0rXkwOGM2CtECTLGjArSy6ebjnkM=; b=jlxqWO3ZeND5BHgkp3VeVw2roYUg0d5OM4M1WqMx8k8qkxUGitHNQoFTO0QY3wOfS9 zpa1z5cZbn1tOtcqianLPtgZJ4rX4XUrd6Xoz33qgVZJHgcyNQr6PgilIpC6OHLXycwK HubcehNh2VCETPQ/WR4afjoDLGyt/axF9jA67Lg8UH9NRjqsrczv4BjoX4rStkns3FWm kAwxq/hYQ/mJIoAMzLpb5L5hyUMlrak9QFgzlue8lZ+bPgC8v+Rd9bLCLh63JXSDhfO9 q39lmfA00ieAakWd/zUll+m5BhxX2fvQEDTIXCX1LubwsUsw1dYSfPlqiIs6G/zRyEUG 0nVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4bDEEBROUVdRwz0rXkwOGM2CtECTLGjArSy6ebjnkM=; b=lbn/1NB0O7xUDNsk4aHLZo4SPMmIxPKfECvm5sSfxayaL3MLqnRiuY75LtVerMVGwN TDYtpTObvGW1IdwB4iJmkgcQMevXJxB/VBmvczrctho4VdQEbdlZzwJD6H1ZdDVeyth1 D1oq+1CASJ34fNualcqhXZufGkJnX3+l1fCpVsTId0Gnfq2F7NjtMd1RDkt3ulSQ5Ijk V6bME6oWBVTq/jUy6c3JQqN1jpjxHJQ6F97jF4er7kYnV5UE0YLqY9xioeqHssh9kFqy Y7JuAPDN/3tWYLtD0gN2ZioVw4yarpVALssf88r49g2Ad2+svkpGE4sayvjRuc+lUf3D XuwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgot8MRY5K7mRwxgPMZKk5+SEdOoo58OPA/MTr1NAgnZbyXgHqq BLspOfW/iIHJwDtg49bckCdJaik5ug== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBQKXafePRQq2O/luzsjAPQlQ76V1gzwSMWyFgJP6xhCbRmkwmluw43YSm6zT1Nv+7lNYX1SCQS2+lJtSik5e0= X-Received: by 10.37.128.195 with SMTP id c3mr1397757ybm.150.1505219801754; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:36:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:36:41 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:36:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:37:05 -0000 Hi Ml, i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! someone has an hint? --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From mcrha@redhat.com Tue Sep 12 13:52:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2329976B95 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qVNGvOHhLGVl for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD5A876AE4 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AA2B4ACA4 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:17 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 8AA2B4ACA4 Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-205-26.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.40.205.26]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5296062A for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:48:28 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:52:49 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 14:36 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change > it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > someone has an hint? Hi, I would say it's not possible, but checking the code there is a setting for it. It's not in the UI (less options means less confusing UI for users, I've been told), thus from a terminal: $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.addressbook completion-minimum-query-length 2 Bye, Milan From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Tue Sep 12 17:38:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418E0761DD for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:38:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F9x0RZgVbo65 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f179.google.com (mail-yw0-f179.google.com [209.85.161.179]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7A876BAD for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id s62so29819595ywg.0 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rm/rztVcI4TwB2S95jZSw8KivgryRSWt22MBAsVu+pw=; b=NiaNr2ujlb7QKRC4NC5DqLc3wXcFWo+M/aM6UXbXhYXNdDHpciRKhzEX5E3oHjPD7Q 7bRJyd/A18AG5CWn/FwQj+nW7NvvzichJXexCsXK14OlduQajKZw7urLXL+QblTzKQai puZGzGXhZpfUgRy9j/rdfOI+OUX2D/zXvDYbaSAD6zfjOdtSaRoprlwfnWnE6wWLsOjV j6L67MPF8+t6FAw7m8c+PIH4j6G2lodeIYLaJNDU+xx8I1+PgSuxrrsRuV4KoxtP2Xrq CBGxEvz42a0/VKRMpeicMR/44jz8KcDqFGsz4B5VyhOzVg/bQF+HA7RvReviNXqkpI7G Pk9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rm/rztVcI4TwB2S95jZSw8KivgryRSWt22MBAsVu+pw=; b=jVXS/fB4DmNyabOq+W/HD88m/J49hqLLbbWZJwhI+He+NG+dKwSc58s5lKDeC1K07Z Q7V//5qblgdss7/cHg0pZTFhSIGVGF9UCxZqI+6k95nZHhsf7iq0sIABqYLA3IPxC05O j+6OVoCQkhMo611zmd1r/h3FdT1ieOYrUJ/pLHgkO4PS6OtIekAmf7gQ3DvarEiDDFxA SuhVlBQmH9mlT+gLsLJMBy9WJBQvtg/MV3BARetWjn7NjN8tRnRZlDXMskJ4Q5CthcjB BihSnn23Qn2bxftfjehGwx5QdJ5u1DMdnxRY+5ooAAPPMuaJvETYRev55QavuT7Oz0kT ApVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgw8GP0evjKtE5rE1MlvWEHVcgvl4sF1D2G87ZYUds5zxSO0O8Q OE1W0ev7BHlkXGO1MKIV+W2SaZJXBg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDa/U9/v1Rr6bY5LYuA1UbuRUb1HMD77X0oUIP0vKbjdhk4do7c1D/LFHpwpJRxMc1p9nuPmGrt/RBtOcaYzi4= X-Received: by 10.37.46.15 with SMTP id u15mr8873357ybu.26.1505237897169; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:38:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:38:16 +0200 Message-ID: To: Milan Crha Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:38:40 -0000 2017-09-12 15:48 GMT+02:00 Milan Crha : > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 14:36 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke via evolution-l= ist > wrote: >> i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my >> mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change >> it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! >> someone has an hint? > > Hi, > I would say it's not possible, but checking the code there is a setting > for it. It's not in the UI (less options means less confusing UI for > users, I've been told), thus from a terminal: > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.addressbook completion-minimum-que= ry-length 2 Where could i see all options? Is there a menu like thunderbird "about:config" ? Sebastian > > Bye, > Milan > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From awilliam@whitemice.org Tue Sep 12 18:17:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E28576A23 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lbyo3rVjZ1PH for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:17:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 1396 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; 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charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:17:37 -0000 > > users, I've been told), thus from a terminal: > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.addressbook completion-minimum- > > query-length 2 > Where could i see all options? gsettings list-keys org.gnome.evolution.addressbook You can also get there via dconf-editor -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer From reeke@rockefeller.edu Tue Sep 12 18:27:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3995376BAD for ; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rockefeller.edu; s=dkim-20081120; t=1505240808; bh=9MU72GEsZJN8yQwS7U/ezzWsNC+oxmsllJY51adZg7E=; h=Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=sRtm4JcLj1kJhvaA4m/ICnnp8+sONPJjErTclQUc+2TkGd0QuGHR9VsnZ68soRISC u1dFDjOsShjgCUp45aNzgGv0IuncPwGztKXMSVKGvoZQvCnMq8mZxlMkrB3NFUvW1B oh2HdDljKFQ2BeJ60XdADltsu0IS8ZvBuSP5wnQ4= From: George Reeke To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:26:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1505240802.13072.73.camel@marengo2.rockefeller.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 (2.32.3-37.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authenticated: Authenticated by reeke@rockefeller.edu Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:27:23 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 19:38 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > 2017-09-12 15:48 GMT+02:00 Milan Crha : > > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 14:36 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list > > wrote: > >> i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > >> mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change > >> it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > >> someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting with that letter, etc.? George Reeke From silver.bullet@zoho.com Tue Sep 12 18:35:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7876BAF for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:35:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z-Hb3oHvf7Zi for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 812FC76553 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version; b=A8fKYYzhZjQq24Eg5nOPDqkoElj2zdmjGKt+WI7re2AYKARPvp4NucwR35rcdx+LNDCh6xU5JsGG AVbP/Z7mmIMMy37kRrsiDXYuo2BZbPr7hHUQ66yDtsU2QX7v7pMA Received: from archlinux.localdomain (x5ce0d05b.dyn.telefonica.de [92.224.208.91]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 150524130278092.2858488645187; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:35:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:35:49 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 19:38 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke wrote: > Where could i see all options? Hi, there's a GUI available to edit dconf, the file were a lot of gnomish settings are stored. It's the binary file .config/dconf/user. Running $ strings .config/dconf/user shows you a little bit, well sorted, while $ cat .config/dconf/user fails to show you a sane output. However, even the strings command isn't useful. There's a GUI available to edit dconf, but I don't have it installed. If I want to edit dconf I'm using command line, see $ man gsettings $ gsettings --help $ man dconf $ dconf --help My recommendation is to avoid using apps that use dconf, anyway, a short introduction, so that you get the desired "about:config" for dconf from command line follows. For example =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D $ gsettings list-schemas | grep evolution org.gnome.evolution.shell org.gnome.evolution.plugin.face-picture org.gnome.evolution-data-server.calendar org.gnome.evolution.plugin.itip org.gnome.evolution.plugin.autocontacts org.gnome.evolution.plugin.attachment-reminder org.gnome.evolution.shell.network-config org.gnome.evolution org.gnome.evolution.plugin.prefer-plain org.gnome.evolution-data-server org.gnome.evolution.plugin.publish-calendar org.gnome.evolution.spamassassin org.gnome.evolution.addressbook ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ org.gnome.evolution.bogofilter org.gnome.evolution.importer org.gnome.evolution.calendar org.gnome.evolution.plugin.external-editor org.gnome.evolution.mail org.gnome.evolution.plugin.templates org.gnome.evolution-data-server.addressbook org.gnome.evolution.plugin.mail-notification org.gnome.evolution.eds-shell org.gnome.evolution.plugin.email-custom-header =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D $ gsettings list-keys org.gnome.evolution.addressbook ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ editor-show-certs editor-show-mailing-home editor-show-contact-im show-preview hpane-position vpane-position-sub editor-show-contact-phone select-names-last-used-uri editor-show-mailing-other editor-show-personal-job editor-show-mailing-work address-formatting primary-addressbook editor-show-personal-web editor-show-notes hpane-position-sub layout preview-show-maps completion-show-address completion-minimum-query-length ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ vpane-position editor-show-contact-sip editor-show-personal-misc You already know how to set, here is how to get values =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.addressbook completion-minimum-query-le= ngth 3 To read or write more than just 1 dconf value, use the dconf command instea= d of gsettings =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D $ dconf dump /org/gnome/evolution/addressbook/ [/] address-formatting=3Dfalse primary-addressbook=3D'system-address-book' completion-show-address=3Dfalse show-preview=3Dtrue completion-minimum-query-length=3D3 vpane-position=3D133 Regards, Ralf From awilliam@whitemice.org Tue Sep 12 19:16:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A95176BB8 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:16:24 +0000 (UTC) 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evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:16:24 -0000 > > > > i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > > > > mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to > > > > change > > > > it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > > > > someone has an hint? > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that > gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting > with that letter, etc.? To know if it produces a unique match requires a look-up . . . the reason for minimal length [3 in almost every client] is do the expense of a look-up to a large addressbook.  Addressbooks with over a thousand entries are common.  Corporate addressbooks can be much larger than that. And do user's really not know THREE characters in the name/address of who they want to send a message to?  Shortening the search criteria is addressing a problem that doesn't exist. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 openSUSE, a LINUX desktop for humans who need to get work done. 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X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:52:40 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 20:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > My recommendation is to avoid using apps that use dconf Why? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From awilliam@whitemice.org Wed Sep 13 00:39:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301DE76222 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:39:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UT7YazHAgkfM for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wmmi.net 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X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:39:01 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-13 at 00:47 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 20:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > My recommendation is to avoid using apps that use dconf > Why? I feel the complete opposite.  I would pretty to stick with applications that use GSettings/dconf vs. some mess of random configuration files - editing text files is not a solution for system management.   GConf/GSettings/dconf were created to solve very real problems. As an application developer the last thing I want to spend time on is a framework for configuring my application.  GSettings allows for overriding, lock-down, etc... all things that are a genuine nuisance to code custom.  It also has notification - which isn't anything a stand- alone application is going to implement. I can also merrily take my configurations, reliably, from one account to another.  Which is much better than tar-scp- untar+hope-n-pray. -- Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awilliam@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org From awilliam@whitemice.org Wed Sep 13 00:41:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4624776BB3 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:41:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6k7d0aaplQEv for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wmmi.net (aleph.wmmi.net [72.14.190.87]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D062D76BB0 for ; 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charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] [off-topic] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:41:46 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 20:36 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > I can also merrily take my configurations, reliably, from one account > to another. te > rprise_linux/7/html/desktop_migration_and_administration_guide/custom > - > default-values-system-settings>  Which is much better than tar-scp- > untar+hope-n-pray. See "dconf dump {settings-path} > {file}" & "dconf load {settings-path} {file}". -- Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awilliam@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org From silver.bullet@zoho.com Wed Sep 13 05:10:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B337E76C2E for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:10:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id goVPims_u3jh for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F39F76BC9 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:09:45 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; b=r1gxwlfIKSGnezAvLk9Z2vDccsfNdwUxKwhwWnz7lcmx4StMUaSxXVSzubX0qp6vmCDzZwqS5yuE STqJPB9u6+YXJd0zNRXUOlD+MIr6pSyUuNyXw/Ebwg5XUawFxy7H Received: from utnubu (x4e321481.dyn.telefonica.de [78.50.20.129]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1505279382076618.9011648345269; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:09:39 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20170913070939.55f3032e@utnubu> In-Reply-To: <1505256423.3143.6.camel@gmx.net> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> <1505256423.3143.6.camel@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Evolution] [off-topic] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:10:26 -0000 On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:47:03 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: >On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 20:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> My recommendation is to avoid using apps that use dconf > >Why? Hi, because a binary blob as config for many apps is far away from a UNIX alike kiss principle. A human readable individual config for each app is the far better approach, at least for those who customize their Linux or BSD installs. Take a look at $ gsettings list-schemas | sort dconf is kind of a $HOME in $HOME, just that users have to use the dconf and gsettings command, that even don't share the same syntax for the paths. For gsettings it's org.gnome.evolution.addressbook and for dconf it's /org/gnome/evolution/addressbook/, so when using scripts you need to care (not only) about this. That's all very well for those who migrated from Windows to Linux or BSD, but those of us who are native UNIX/POSIX system alike users are used to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle , since we decided against the restricted approach, for a strategy that allows easy customization. Too funny and it's not a coincidence that that the OP asked for something similar to "about:config", a lot of users are already used to bad designed software making things far to complicated and/or restricted. Regards, Ralf From silver.bullet@zoho.com Wed Sep 13 05:34:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69976C36 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:34:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xpsghkQGV5fA for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1185476C2F for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:33:36 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; b=U+q7RIDU9bepHVbmGiFZlXbh2mpnVjGqlZLkMk0wKiRU7y35CTOvQvmqEu/aT1osBYd2xmKE2ZuH SBxii1T8og0NPYy5ZYnSxrm2oH6mOHXN9rgDpbswpqP6V0tEFlNO Received: from utnubu (x4e321481.dyn.telefonica.de [78.50.20.129]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1505280813814806.47421644414; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:33:32 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20170913073332.7e7ae6dd@utnubu> In-Reply-To: <1505263160.3279.6.camel@whitemice.org> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> <1505256423.3143.6.camel@gmx.net> <1505263003.3279.4.camel@whitemice.org> <1505263160.3279.6.camel@whitemice.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Evolution] [off-topic] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:34:17 -0000 On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:39:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 20:36 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> I can also merrily take my configurations, reliably, from one account >> to another. > te >> rprise_linux/7/html/desktop_migration_and_administration_guide/custom >> - >> default-values-system-settings> =C2=A0Which is much better than tar-scp- >> untar+hope-n-pray. =20 > >See "dconf dump {settings-path} > {file}" & "dconf load >{settings-path} {file}". Actually I was the one who gave the short introduction to dconf usage and I'll repeat myself, dconf is a $HOME in $HOME, but it is not accessible by the tools users of UNIX/POSIX alike systems are used too. To cp, mv or tar individual human readable configurations works completely without issues for apps, if it requires religious rites and hope to do this or Evolution, then the bugs are already in the code of Evolution. Actually an individual human readable config for each app, as well as a binary blob for tons of apps works in the same way option_1=3Dvalue_x option_2=3Dvalue_y option_n=3Dvalue_n Actually $HOME/.config/name_of_the_app directly to human readable files is simpler than a binary blob in $HOME/.config which requires tools to translate it into human readable text and than has to be used /by/a/path/ to the human readable config, too. IOW it's the same as $HOME already provides, with the differences of an additional layer that is good for absolutely nothing, especially since UNIX/POSIX paths do use the "/"-sign and not the "."-sign as required by the gsettings command. dconf gains absolutely nothing, it just adds a completely useless, annoying layer. From simpsonetti@googlemail.com Wed Sep 13 05:49:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD86D76C2F for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:49:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P9KA-w_g846m for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f169.google.com (mail-yw0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AA8976A5B for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q80so32667741ywg.2 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:48:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=76xOc3eCmzv2+d5poAq11gViVjdjBT2vgNPZnGSusMI=; b=ML2eh/OjZGplvw4KJuzGUo+IWMTBPzinggCPfmCI3R/ca3PNZPSzR+zdt6uzULRhjK AwEXHcohUNjS7SLyX492z37U5ssb9Jwe13/ytHjeaoqSxKwFpUjskcb+OYMBjR8Go9a7 cyLTZK/Bv7hNsuVuZhi4UwHfXyZHYp/IDZV+yWtHxXfDyLwrD5oac2XENaO44sZfGlMf 2vz/1DhAeZvkmTS9EAV6yTS6gx4UWd0p2OV7PzAFdDTIOGGk0m6OSAJ0su7z8LHpy67H X7lHcCZMYCMKvsaHbJYZbl0IlGXawWVQeSPKXgw4/oXLGBAsiNh77t7z3zOJqYOdujea 72Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=76xOc3eCmzv2+d5poAq11gViVjdjBT2vgNPZnGSusMI=; b=kjXEGMD/bvnCKTdgl++MzN03rPQclkgvV3qDlbdonTTEg0eNIx7lvU8+rU1TzToEfg OloD7c3sB8JsjJgOZwTGyxmujJsf3zPhS9VCcIanuWGjS2vNYkFqBJ5vCkERRmR11CNN p0Z1jG91x+TjKLm8cxgp9gCnqRMjS5kFeqqP9+97hhl2A+YD6WKMraITtCEwyL33BC+K WxBDoN78th0/LWyNSKr/llEUs7krgc+UcyvMSiq84AbYkB14Z++NOxJA205f6onw2N3c Lfy2/mE2FKJUiqnuw+CGQqkteATGaKmzOe23rLUMZNgEqukbovfULqBpGZEnYJPWBvHk 5zpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUi+M5BbXNweRW+w6qZdntlCnSroWoW93tRS4X+MKOEZl8Wc+GND IZO0WMAmVm20j/iX9m99MIPRN5bBmB2rVPi9jbQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb60bemTsS+mkH9B3iWYw3nY6iDPCgC7aPSUgbYLlvt0UAm5uJPoF+XtnG6dIlkBAH7fR1rSBoKYwvNLLgx09zc= X-Received: by 10.129.67.37 with SMTP id q37mr14456466ywa.37.1505281728466; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:48:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.193 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:48:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sebastian_G=C3=B6decke?= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:48:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:49:12 -0000 2017-09-12 20:35 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf : > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 19:38 +0200, Sebastian G=C3=B6decke wrote: >> Where could i see all options? > > Hi, > > there's a GUI available to edit dconf, the file were a lot of gnomish > settings are stored. It's the binary file .config/dconf/user. > > Running > > $ strings .config/dconf/user > > shows you a little bit, well sorted, while > > $ cat .config/dconf/user > > fails to show you a sane output. However, even the strings command isn't > useful. > > There's a GUI available to edit dconf, but I don't have it installed. If > I want to edit dconf I'm using command line, see > > $ man gsettings > $ gsettings --help > $ man dconf > $ dconf --help > > My recommendation is to avoid using apps that use dconf, anyway, a short > introduction, so that you get the desired "about:config" for dconf from > command line follows. > > For example > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > $ gsettings list-schemas | grep evolution > org.gnome.evolution.shell > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.face-picture > org.gnome.evolution-data-server.calendar > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.itip > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.autocontacts > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.attachment-reminder > org.gnome.evolution.shell.network-config > org.gnome.evolution > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.prefer-plain > org.gnome.evolution-data-server > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.publish-calendar > org.gnome.evolution.spamassassin > org.gnome.evolution.addressbook > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > org.gnome.evolution.bogofilter > org.gnome.evolution.importer > org.gnome.evolution.calendar > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.external-editor > org.gnome.evolution.mail > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.templates > org.gnome.evolution-data-server.addressbook > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.mail-notification > org.gnome.evolution.eds-shell > org.gnome.evolution.plugin.email-custom-header > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D > > $ gsettings list-keys org.gnome.evolution.addressbook > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > editor-show-certs > editor-show-mailing-home > editor-show-contact-im > show-preview > hpane-position > vpane-position-sub > editor-show-contact-phone > select-names-last-used-uri > editor-show-mailing-other > editor-show-personal-job > editor-show-mailing-work > address-formatting > primary-addressbook > editor-show-personal-web > editor-show-notes > hpane-position-sub > layout > preview-show-maps > completion-show-address > completion-minimum-query-length > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > vpane-position > editor-show-contact-sip > editor-show-personal-misc > > You already know how to set, here is how to get values > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > $ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.addressbook completion-minimum-query-= length > 3 > > To read or write more than just 1 dconf value, use the dconf command inst= ead of gsettings > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > $ dconf dump /org/gnome/evolution/addressbook/ > [/] > address-formatting=3Dfalse > primary-addressbook=3D'system-address-book' > completion-show-address=3Dfalse > show-preview=3Dtrue > completion-minimum-query-length=3D3 > vpane-position=3D133 > Thanks, that works for me. I have many Mailadresses with 2 letter and than @example.com for me it's easier to type in the 2 letters and then tabbed away... Thanks and regards Sebastian > Regards, > Ralf > > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --=20 Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Sebastian G=C3=B6decke From silver.bullet@zoho.com Wed Sep 13 06:13:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B5D76C3A for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:13:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2gPaszxR4RiH for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender-pp-092.zoho.com (sender-pp-092.zoho.com [135.84.80.237]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 023A676C38 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:12:41 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version; b=HXS9uNJGiRzg8XtvmUydwDOENWsIbng5i0VDZ0wy92DP+I0gIm3smnb7ST+gjujqn9eSTOBZTXfh VzIDzxbB7uCxPMSRcT+AS/UZlTn8PINg7ZU1YxJNWXzYt9IR+kYb Received: from archlinux.localdomain (x4e321481.dyn.telefonica.de [78.50.20.129]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1505283156558605.6108879330221; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 23:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505283154.799.29.camel@zoho.com> From: Ralf Mardorf To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:12:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170913073332.7e7ae6dd@utnubu> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> <1505241300.799.20.camel@zoho.com> <1505256423.3143.6.camel@gmx.net> <1505263003.3279.4.camel@whitemice.org> <1505263160.3279.6.camel@whitemice.org> <20170913073332.7e7ae6dd@utnubu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: [Evolution] [off-topic] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:13:22 -0000 PS: There's one exceptional case when dconf is more pleasant, if you just want to change a few items by a script, then gsettings could be an advantage compared to e.g. usage of sed and perhaps the requirement to restart an app, OTOH there are likely several other disadvantages of dconf, one that comes into my mind right now is the advantage of human readable files to sort the content and add user specific comments, you can't archive this that easy with dconf, if at all. From reeke@rockefeller.edu Wed Sep 13 14:58:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991B476BB0 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:58:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x38e32YyLjf3 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out1.rockefeller.edu (smtp-out1.rockefeller.edu [129.85.244.127]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27A2762ED for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [129.85.11.31] (lobimo.rockefeller.edu [129.85.60.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-out1.rockefeller.edu (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v8DEvNnb011524 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:57:23 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.5 smtp-out1.rockefeller.edu v8DEvNnb011524 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rockefeller.edu; s=dkim-20081120; t=1505314644; bh=LN6h0C2L1qxFlG6mEzVisXC61UXTdoMHltnlFLFQzM4=; h=Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=a723cyltXoaM66+EnT5EV79HfV0Bf2CHF2uN1lf3bEubd1IbR68zJ5X7bR73ZYwih 2TkQOVA4xcHcex8WcOlg8BxuRnJ5GFEsTzzfzoWFgtm8w1j216eA+wPFtnjiCINdNm KNq+Mc1aBZsp6AXiwgyr46SM5u+FaotdMXpD/mRw= From: George Reeke To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505243639.4478.12.camel@whitemice.org> References: <1505224108.2332.3.camel@redhat.com> <1505240802.13072.73.camel@marengo2.rockefeller.edu> <1505243639.4478.12.camel@whitemice.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:57:18 -0400 Message-ID: <1505314638.13072.84.camel@marengo2.rockefeller.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 (2.32.3-37.el6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated: Authenticated by reeke@rockefeller.edu Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:58:07 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 15:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > > > i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > > > > > mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to > > > > > change > > > > > it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > > > > > someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that > > gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting > > with that letter, etc.? > > To know if it produces a unique match requires a look-up . . . the > reason for minimal length [3 in almost every client] is do the expense > of a look-up to a large addressbook. Addressbooks with over a thousand > entries are common. Corporate addressbooks can be much larger than > that. Really? How do I do a 3-letter lookup? Maybe with an index with 26*26*26 entries followed by linear search? Binary search? Hash table with every entry in it? All of these are easily extended, if you like from "batch" to "online" coding techniques, where you keeping adding letters until you can stop. And without a great deal of study, it seems to me that upkeep as the list changes would not be all that much harder with any of these. How does the 3-letter method work when there are ten Joneses in the list? Isn't it the same thing, just starting a little farther in? > > And do user's really not know THREE characters in the name/address of > who they want to send a message to? Shortening the search criteria is > addressing a problem that doesn't exist. I thought the purpose was to cut down unnecessary typing. Not a "problem" maybe, but sure a convenience. George Reeke From sven-anderson-vegan@web.de Thu Sep 14 01:43:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4867076BCD for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EB2-CBmNq-Th for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 01:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.4]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2012D762C3 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.219.161.168]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LzmLr-1dNawy3epH-01504K for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:42:27 +0200 References: <1505052610.31299.79.camel@gmx.net> To: evolution-list@gnome.org From: Sven Anderson X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1505052610.31299.79.camel@gmx.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:42:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1505052610.31299.79.camel@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FE213723221C7885EDB39D8C" Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5SUjHVCdHqmfL7Mzxib+yYp6s8px4u14/O4DbPghmfr+qwIGNyL ez2Qh8tsY/D/Y5eD7E2S2vrCFGxaM5/gauhYBzDcI5+SZbNpWCCnUL/0jGGND7s9uHZK184 X8IB4WfLJAAIHSy1ZoHiJhhZ96PV54oQric4JeeYwkHTw1EDMrGuXGwD3Fo8Vhswf5kSPy1 2sSqSiOBpZp/5+XfunJNA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TFX0BQNDOX4=:FlO1KKn9TslqXbbznjK6UW mpgQPYuTBF98V2vDasZtjZ9Nja3Z+LlhxEFot8FZbmohqdYcj+EeQMhKOotX2TiPP/vLVK+KH BGFXFdzWCj4ufZZT+GtEjLUNhAaqKpl70z4tKfuda9zC2qIeyplnLdu/7ymzn+N/i0CBxDmdJ xkGK/HuNmAXjnDE4ZRiKwbt5ha88YIf65VPbtqCV4YMUT07E7CbUznDMoiIL0OdYQu19RwWvw 1+CnRj63ldWTVjCRaHaJxjbWZ1cCJ1l+0zMVnF7Z6uRhUbFc8wiSgGoCSsKqsH0MxY+StwnjJ T3+HFvjQ8XcjrtbGctKIBkvGei8ZfbjaVOOIDctp5ruUjeRFk639MVYGwsHFhEB6htcERBD2N pR5R9ZldUWM7EdeNQLA+F8tJ7yHao+4urWgEZ8sclnmnVDqouEFVaeHmExFkzDlzQfAHJjwsm FRHEjONhPyawe/SLtLtF6dPhl36+VQDhAM5oGdWMppgeMpxd7/QtgsI6NbuZORqy1HmCmelWR IF39lCxmekgJSvMD9E9NDbMMgWo+qaSLIbdUEei0aOZ4OdP5vXoULubTO4PNI+ViMqXJUiC4C bb0TciyLJiKj1mm0EjZNWq3aKOPsO/OHgpi3c7Kr3bIIPBbgcwehGQJQO2VFH4chsOzqkWHfL IA/dA4NYlutbv2PHYIExpHVLyqBIOgfgFu5axHZZ8O4uuaYHbgGwAjgCequJBAYBhQZwVI2J7 gXVPN7Yzd9Siuu42B2ae2EygQDLeZVDUiKFebqBBKUm9YTErogU1n2wL2TlEtQOaHJ2o24qoY 0cjI7TEq3usYI75BIrKNcHhakljIuwOFEd4n2w3r/PfMRpHFWs= X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:20:53 +0000 Subject: [Evolution] Fwd: Re: google contacts X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 01:43:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FE213723221C7885EDB39D8C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i set the individuals instead "work" or "handy" etc... thanks for help best regards svenniboy -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Evolution] google contacts Datum: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:10:10 +0200 Von: Andre Klapper An: Sven Anderson Kopie (CC): evolution-list@gnome.org [Please reply to the list. Private messages don't help others.] Hi Sven, On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 15:29 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote: > hello andre, it is version 3.18.5.2 under ubuntu....what you mean > with step by step? > > Am 10.09.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Andre Klapper: > > On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 11:50 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote: > > > dear friends, I using evolution contacts and adressbook since a short > > > time, but the contacts from google adressbook which have special name in > > > google adressbook are not showing by this name....like that: only the > > > main category telefon or fax are showing, but not the individuel > > > names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts? > > > > Which exact Evolution version is this about? Also, exact steps to > > reproduce the problem (step by step) in Google and Evolution are > > welcome. Steps that allow someone else to reproduce your situation. How to set up "special names" or "individual names" in a Google address book? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ --------------FE213723221C7885EDB39D8C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

i set the individuals instead "work" or "handy" etc...

thanks for help


best regards svenniboy



-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [Evolution] google contacts
Datum: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:10:10 +0200
Von: Andre Klapper <ak-47@gmx.net>
An: Sven Anderson <sven-anderson-vegan@web.de>
Kopie (CC): evolution-list@gnome.org 


[Please reply to the list. Private messages don't help others.]

Hi Sven,

On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 15:29 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote:
> hello andre, it is version 3.18.5.2 under ubuntu....what you mean
> with step by step?
> 
> Am 10.09.2017 um 15:09 schrieb Andre Klapper:
> > On Sat, 2017-09-09 at 11:50 +0200, Sven Anderson wrote:
> > > dear friends, I using evolution contacts and adressbook since a short 
> > > time, but the contacts from google adressbook which have special name in 
> > > google adressbook are not showing by this name....like that: only the 
> > > main category telefon or fax are showing, but not the individuel 
> > > names....give it a possibility to make better showing google contacts?
> > 
> > Which exact Evolution version is this about? Also, exact steps to
> > reproduce the problem (step by step) in Google and Evolution are
> > welcome.

Steps that allow someone else to reproduce your situation. How to set
up "special names" or "individual names" in a Google address book?

andre
-- 
Andre Klapper  |  ak-47@gmx.net
http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Lp+vagHysSQD/LMqJQfUxUyfQ4r20mtmRShHLU3HyxYm6Fm7NU6 v2WrFtQOBNs9CoU3ZOW7143vRCnzRCQY/wmqY7FUpXTPlr4JMgbkd0ngULei0MnyAmC0fax 0lo6vJK7QGO9QdYmF7PTuMxzaLd74822/LoP25UZgn++e2Rjz+LIOg8w46GJWh2BiIvwc6+ j53g77UjDJvFKL+ACjCDw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:1As9nz+5pgA=:fuaF3CFbOwiKV3PpQRRXTE HAFWYKU/hmng0FLuuU/SFmWNqgnsQxMs0SSkQxxsbYShT9lDopZPTGAkfvDG+ujR7AwA3toow NmEa5tYR16z5bQGi6FcUa/1EnlZs8rypk3VlKVNHLOll9TpWUwOBSmpeT8HczDoX3ptNKwbqr 3v14FuyCo7IvtCNWHVdA+ccr+WC0/CmJJ6wFWdZmLvOZT+2sD5dnm2IW7wMANmo414WKd6tHf +P93ffeaCrIyK5beLzpF5QyOnwsGNyaGe40EbMwApQ3lRjY9wDXO5/em2YWUFUIbP8NTxuH7f aOTkux1/4ICAbwDi0NQ2fkiKNChhnohN+RZBGgLRnDp0H3/i3g2cvGvRZ82aTVPfw+97yJiiL UzqN+592+4hgbZm+Fsngmm1oCD+H70FY5GgSOwV77O7MF4xUSiZi36mtVl+Rsd+TE/Eq0IoLP rzZo9ONeqFs8JZTfTZd+dlzAyRqQjZMI4mcVv4KRdvZP2KVrquevAuKKk2UoA9J1jEMirs0k7 Blk1FFtBdCOPn6VNcpcefHo7twvmd0sx/xcOQO2BJ3GczXZWS1K2yzImVUEcnP+6A+9M9eoZf 5Ds/dMS7Ie2Re3zmdwThmw2z48x/XbtCWv643QobXOIx+ElfaL+2BRuuB3I9vDDOhbKni7SYR 7Vy8pG1noY1jDEjUGjw+EZ3+uHINaFbN4DwSbiyKKoFVtJLis6HCXCn2DD5qh5oYpGIfHDpQq uN1/g1e4d3gyIca6vv26KqARZBK1UaDUPpI84cLKEg+9Nr6t0C97Ds5lJfkUJ9rMCACqcgz2M L0vmRNFbnfmM4xXcUGwwlA62TA/OtwtrN4M65pYr+4DuhGZ3cw= Subject: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:20:19 -0000 Hello friends, my evo 3.22.6 on ubuntu 17.04 quite often does not reconnect after sleep. And - somehow related - when I do not log into my system immediately after boot, the calendar will not connect to the server. In fact, this issue persists since ubuntu 14, I brought it up in this list at least once, and I filed a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1687863 Over several years now I could not achieve any improvements. Allthough it is not a crucial bug, nevertheless it's quite annoying. Could anybody give me a hint what I could do with it? Cheers, Wolf From pete@biggs.org.uk Tue Sep 19 16:35:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DA776C1C for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:35:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aTdSuXIWnuuI for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk (pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk [129.67.104.51]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB12E76F06 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [129.67.104.52] (helo=snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk) by pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1duLTH-0000eT-Cu for evolution-list@gnome.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:34:03 +0100 Message-ID: <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: Pete Biggs To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:34:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-biggs-MailScanner-ID: 1duLTH-0000eT-Cu X-biggs-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-biggs-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:35:10 -0000 Please don't start a new topic by replying to a previous email - it mucks up the threading. > > my evo 3.22.6 on ubuntu 17.04 quite often does not reconnect after > sleep. And - somehow related - when I do not log into my system > immediately after boot, the calendar will not connect to the server. (Disclaimer - this is from vague memory, someone else with a deeper knowledge will probably tell me I'm wrong!) The connection/reconnect is controlled by DBUS signals (I think) and that relies on something spotting that the network has dropped and come back up again and initiating those signals. Usually that is NetworkManager, but it might be different on Ubuntu. All I know is that Evo on Fedora reliably reconnects and retrieves mail after a sleep. > > In fact, this issue persists since ubuntu 14, I brought it up in this > list at least once, and I filed a bug here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1687863 > > Over several years now I could not achieve any improvements. Allthough > it is not a crucial bug, nevertheless it's quite annoying. > > Could anybody give me a hint what I could do with it? > I suspect the best thing would be to file a bug in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org I really doubt the Evolution developers want to search all the various distro specific forums and mailing lists and whatever in order to find things to do. Once you have filed a bug, please post the bug reference here so that people who search the archives for solutions (there must be some left, somewhere) can find out what's been done. P. From ak-47@gmx.net Tue Sep 19 16:40:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F2F76C28 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pGxceq2nIPyO for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E04DD76F05 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([86.49.112.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lrviw-1dGIhy2Jyg-013hfL for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:39:44 +0200 Message-ID: <1505838993.27685.1.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:36:33 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qZb80l7Y+jWZaNxc7xsfo+ci4b1qwSeBh2va/khZnP22Yo4cc0b Uwv1qTMcN0saR44jbvMsio2XRFaxtYlxptE/xpTI2Bdnh48ausygE9kUU6R1q3/4v6YE7i8 OaeChafNL6ZfuY9btprLWJdRr0Sdl8Tam1F08+hw9LilvMOt6WOHcKMdq9atLZym4+LPeAt W803PR4L+mUW9BdoN13vA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:bA55vKqhgOM=:DeJncdzXReFuZaIItRDg8G KuQoC2DqDAQEEyokZ9u/h98Hc3McJSKIfvF95zkgW3iTr3x1BJee71Nko7Cs7/g8hXMoSBzcn 8Cnf+kn0CAu+6qWwTgrLquQg8bK1E7GIbKk+ZDFqCsEAiFOR4oHRRpgQZBXnl6rhh634ovO+P tVTN1bLNzMPO6r2bb76YBJksfcSYWvj43gg+6cN5dFtLinpeB9z2hv3qhRYisV1+SFKZYcIfU b8ekXou/PlNKSfeog4Pk3k3htPspoVsbu1ICH9TxLJcc0I6rJsdDKgWh3B10vtS4RAJFEm5s9 8LiVb/DOflPnOcbUR3i51s7YXmBuPpAUPVfS68NqrCpFcI1WRVo7OiJ6w6zoLCMLClrln6695 x7+Mp/totKmtAbdMnObvRnkNGxdAzmylEwkGYlHONhX4ZvSQ/9S5OJAg8cBzd/pG1n4/96SDn fijvBzCuVJnoqi3lZshz4AuBxB83Pl29y0u8FG/uGVHet98GHDiRDhURgE9ag0luEzjyzEHHn 6dvIKnvt2T3/t3RNLYD1nzvo6yfnee35HqRawra6AzNEB2cIPipQGIa4671MMuyAfCHjX4ZF7 yE9mR0opvuwd2G4wBIH1ZVB1pe2Twu/8AQlRZPk4sQzYjEs8HRdwhBHdgecNY3H+sayNem/8v LTfq9lAmgSnFhn6D1fo6BnRh5d2Jpeb6ZOBI33iOtB9Nc5kbM1z9u8pBuM03VTvqLcf/R1xdy i6kPjJuImRuW4pAGJnlOzP660ZpxpfA3hYiC70MsaFEFhOk+KWU/ba0fx5IVc3VgTdpdSOW/e xodaruqowicH4xIzgy+dntj+hsseXgKDylxwNtbamewMv9QEkE= Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:40:19 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 18:19 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > Hello friends, > > my evo 3.22.6 on ubuntu 17.04 quite often does not reconnect after > sleep. And - somehow related - when I do not log into my system > immediately after boot, the calendar will not connect to the server. > > In fact, this issue persists since ubuntu 14, I brought it up in this > list at least once, and I filed a bug here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1687863 > > Over several years now I could not achieve any improvements. > Allthough > it is not a crucial bug, nevertheless it's quite annoying. > > Could anybody give me a hint what I could do with it? For the boot/login / goa issue, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1259434#c15 that you linked to in your Launchpad ticket? :) andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From berend.de.schouwer@gmail.com Wed Sep 20 08:43:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C37777013 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:43:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OJs17gdLNRF9 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f171.google.com (mail-wr0-f171.google.com [209.85.128.171]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BADDA270006 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r74so1497905wrb.13 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:42:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8oiAcc0PPzrU0zc74zu9FrTJCvEGNs0m5GwqyI8ohw8=; b=Dk1q+Glp4H4FHLEXvLxQi/ZoebgyL1zgVh2PNx3TvmwKjghVZrpfoDqkJj2tm49fXg 0v+tLyOo6wGDqRaoKDuGwWUolA23GwW5nJTuTLKeRaPg1Lqz1yWe5dgiwiir09Yfc719 40MvbaSyZmwdic4M5n2+HboBYf0YInsmaBSViHAYMHXmxfQS/5psE7AzLNCZxEZwAG1V 8UQsx4CqZtxGj0f2p+1lo4c+O9KX6JM/a1KpejlxJKCQzy2dykLKq3OgeVrXcgN4lh+F Nhzbsirj0UmhivJ63ddfqMrku9g4fdmLhF65SUrHDBtfq9ctl5WR1JuOu2C0/u1AOw5g bRWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8oiAcc0PPzrU0zc74zu9FrTJCvEGNs0m5GwqyI8ohw8=; b=RmfBSyzqyolEd5bjXx/qEKLrLrnCUwveeHgY6Zan3lPVfFwvN48BymBBbZky0xLLKy 3tqDQXgonUZGt3Sj7uel+H458XVuYcW1mTq+VDUg/IayH8I4rAqgPo8f0NHrv9kdddxI N+/x8gMPwlA1GWV8d+FkWYPjmCtbYjsJkaJtEVZujurArpmIxjOhynNEUHuNFF4AHvpP 81cPE76LBwE2M0lUY1sysps2sMzDvE3j7evwsVqIBcdgFDvhN080Sef6j55Dd+BFk3oO vo69iL69mxLQXRND5IehcFr/Nugxp4XgzcyFSVIM4FGXcsELz/gU9XNI9BkLguOc1hlK 4S+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjDHVX4kphhFRcNYxIJ5fpq3IengYZYxdZTYbYq64wIe6YZzmVa A1d+VEGlPVkhtb/Ppto/lQZsyy8A X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QConOAdtkBEKaZJZGKtSu27I81wwA8kBp9GTWO5PbFdf+/qpWJqHq/x2OiGcEpDzvrN46xUQA== X-Received: by 10.223.159.11 with SMTP id l11mr1285592wrf.148.1505896960685; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sieve-deschouwer-co-za ([196.37.73.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p80sm1112906wmf.42.2017.09.20.01.42.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505896955.18177.23.camel@gmail.com> From: Berend De Schouwer To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:42:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:43:04 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 17:34 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > my evo 3.22.6 on ubuntu 17.04 quite often does not reconnect after > > sleep. And - somehow related - when I do not log into my system > > immediately after boot, the calendar will not connect to the > > server. > > (Disclaimer - this is from vague memory, someone else with a deeper > knowledge will probably tell me I'm wrong!) > > The connection/reconnect is controlled by DBUS signals (I think) and > that relies on something spotting that the network has dropped and > come > back up again and initiating those signals. Usually that is > NetworkManager, but it might be different on Ubuntu. > > All I know is that Evo on Fedora reliably reconnects and retrieves > mail > after a sleep. Not for me. Fedora 26, evolution-3.24.5-1.fc26.x86_64. I think it's network dependent. If you have more than one account, you have to reconnect multiple times. Sometimes some accounts reconnect after sleep and others don't. It's a "sometimes", "often", "infrequently", "random" bug. Sorry. From herr_oswald@gmx.de Wed Sep 20 09:03:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D8C76DEA for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:03:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvxVm5y2EsNR for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71D13270007 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Simux ([82.119.9.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWxtA-1drLFb05p6-00VvxN for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:02:47 +0200 Message-ID: <1505898165.1715.1.camel@gmx.de> From: Herr Oswald To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:02:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505896955.18177.23.camel@gmail.com> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> <1505896955.18177.23.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XC8JK456JGIvXiRDGN/8AEOxx1MMBxFOLhuj9AJeRZ092WJ15Or 0BgcyogGtKBa8Wh8OgZkhfsFY9e47/0eJ00VpEqkQdKMforLEGuHkFwM8fcE1XfZg03q7Pt 39UsPB310aZ/RskUXuTHczVdNudRcvIBfinxVeQ8u7ImdtGi3OvVEM2kUc8qPc1Lc8U3nxw cY4KTq16/nIRe/vMZqxrA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jM4Agk4dOeg=:9jzkPikFDkIaQca//N/3ES wQF8oMH/l2+z/toGY8cVL8dUSgoUWGzYdavHhM8pDY0evIU/9vH35nID2fZxhC/H+FysU5Z0g kdmi2Hg9atw8V7rl7qI24Mz6yaSo0/NPPClTopW1wskjtbz9PXl3M5qUpW/JPB9l9yiRKMb7r cJvr7WdKg0sJqbZZouTSGn4kNYX1vQcxw4I5x67LdNex4JVgjKGqviz6SGjxQF/eKLStEugDQ t226+VtfhpxaDX3AoUF+7YARFPmsobBbnCtsfb4eRwMdgMnL+dsa6Y8It8iKGqbkHcpdoT6s+ jSwoD2FVuL1jL7u++xO8ZRYIKan7tcepQy8DKQgRj/BSxQa5bLqa1/8x6aeRTZ81apbf10PCg Gv4K0JkK9v5O1ZpBkpoJ6FMnDH6qyj5AoVTrDwZIhosMCI+jW063ot30lFRhX37f34WduYd6K gVeXSt7/DdTDpdszTvn6lmYbHeamZ8Zpomzja68BtyFQQAXvrzYI2yVXHWdxRjnMY2iV5Ysgr lzNOnylRBXZd4QYLyqsxd5K2K6dJpzL8qUXYAp1gQr3pMx2EKjyw63t+5eAAn50ddXYNdu7pe 3Ip8bFHU0WPJYlqjT37FrZOMeAs4xzq5o1KC5hRAfOSdPLBDQ7c0QwWq4QjOTttikW7Tozz/v qupSS95LR2dO3mHQpNJusOOW+i7G90tmv+PdvEA6kaemBiFFhFEKLLJG5yyi50gqgoo7z1Hzi UVrLxZxAtPx7K1G8zzc9KpEg2qic1ZoxpNmg1pkiTZWvOmHCeZA78iFqYaKpIK5BFJyttrBGf pr0caW9pq1cwaVsdpONZF8S74EGh0m5ccf806sF+u4vETKaVwM= Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:03:22 -0000 > > > sleep. And - somehow related - when I do not log into my system > > > immediately after boot, the calendar will not connect to the > > > server. > >=20 > Not for me.=C2=A0=C2=A0Fedora 26, evolution-3.24.5-1.fc26.x86_64.=C2=A0= =C2=A0I think it's > network dependent. >=20 > If you have more than one account, you have to reconnect multiple > times.=C2=A0=C2=A0Sometimes some accounts reconnect after sleep and other= s > don't. >=20 > It's a "sometimes", "often", "infrequently", "random" bug.=C2=A0=C2=A0Sor= ry. Thanks for your hint. As it seems to be a difficult job to make it really reliable under very different circumstances (there are quite some bug reports around on this - I still vote for an attempt to make evo more robust against network losses and other incidents and provide an enhanced reconnect feature. Cheers, Wolf From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Wed Sep 20 09:42:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6D727001B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pK-u8Ys_HriP for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:42:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 329 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:42:14 UTC Received: from smtp203.alice.it (smtp203.alice.it [82.57.200.99]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4180D27001C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (79.17.66.249) by smtp203.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 59846DB6140141AE for evolution-list@gnome.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:36:24 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8K9a4CT006697 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:36:04 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8K9a419006696 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:36:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:36:03 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:42:45 -0000 Hi all, I'm working on junk filter with my new evolution installation (3.24.5 on Fedora 26). I need to understand better how filters are working. I'm using bogofilter as junk filter. Using the debugging level CAMEL_DEBUG=3Djunk evolution I can see that: 1. If the IMAP account has no tick for check junk in new messages, no check is done (even pressing Ctrl-Alt-J) 2. If I change the option no check is done until restarting evolution 3. If the tick is present at start the Ctrl-Alt-J is working even for already present messages (as expected). 4. If I uncheck the option, the check on new messages continues working 5. The new incoming messages marked as junk are moved to Junk folder (in my case is a real folder) but is marked as read. So I can't understand if there is some new junk emails that I need to check for spammicity=C2=A0 So, I have 2 questions. Can I disable the check for new junk mail but use the manual check for junk mail when I need to do it? Can I have the junk email marked as unread as I can understand that i have spam to be checked? Regards to all Ambrogio From mcrha@redhat.com Wed Sep 20 09:56:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A896177022 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QA9D1Nqf_URX for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 322A27701D for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA03413A49 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com AA03413A49 Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-112.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-112.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.112]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6FB5D6A3 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505901441.10746.12.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505898165.1715.1.camel@gmx.de> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> <1505896955.18177.23.camel@gmail.com> <1505898165.1715.1.camel@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:57:21 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]); Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:56:58 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 11:02 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > I still vote for an attempt to make evo more robust against > network losses and other incidents and provide an enhanced reconnect > feature Hi, I agree. As Pete mentioned, Evolution doesn't talk to NetworkManager directly, it uses, and relies on, a GNetworkMonitor object provided by glib, which has multiple implementations how to check for existing connection. I do not say it's GNetworkMonitor fault here, I only know that some network setups are not properly handled by it. The issue can be completely elsewhere, like some connection attempt being stuck with old route or something like that, though most of the connections in Evolution (and also evolution-data-server) have set connection timeout to 90 seconds. You mentioned in the launchpad bug report this error message: > "Failed to lookup credentials: Failed to get password from > GOA: timeout" It means that it's not on the evolution side, but on the GOA (goa-daemon) side, that it does something such long that the request made by evolution-data-server times out. Accidentally, I made some changes in eds recently [1], which ignore this error when calling certain function of the GOA interface. The main changes should go to GOA, though. Bye, Milan [1] the change landed for evolution-data-server 3.27.1+ and 3.26.1+: https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=040788e758ddf75bbb9a9 From mcrha@redhat.com Wed Sep 20 11:43:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E51B77046 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOWg9aIuxL-6 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D95D7704A for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B82A87E44D for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:02 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com B82A87E44D Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-112.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-112.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.112]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A45460604 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:44:06 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:43:34 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 11:36 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > Can I disable the check for new junk mail but use the manual check > for junk mail when I need to do it? Hi, it's supposed to run the Junk filter (yes, it's a filter) on the currently selected messages regardless of the option in the account properties. If it doesn't, then it's a bug. > Can I have the junk email marked as unread as I can understand that i > have spam to be checked? I'm afraid it's related to the fact that the messages are moved to a different real folder. The servers can set the \Seen flag during the move operation. To know for sure, it might need more testing. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y23sm1514650wrd.57.2017.09.20.05.00.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1505908803.6076.1.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:00:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:00:50 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 11:36 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > 1. If the IMAP account has no tick for check junk in new messages, no > check is done (even pressing Ctrl-Alt-J) Note that Ctrl-Alt-J applies only to *selected* messages, not to every message in the current view. poc From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Wed Sep 20 12:37:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B156477061 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:37:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zMfmGtnJMN2G for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp204.alice.it (smtp204.alice.it [82.57.200.100]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3554D77056 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (79.17.66.249) by smtp204.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 59AECA680908AD8E; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:37:33 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8KCb8IT009293; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:37:08 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8KCb8Hm009292; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:37:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1505911027.3321.40.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: "Patrick O'Callaghan" , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:37:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505908803.6076.1.camel@usb.ve> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505908803.6076.1.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:37:57 -0000 Hi Patric, Il giorno mer, 20/09/2017 alle 13.00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: > On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 11:36 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > > 1. If the IMAP account has no tick for check junk in new > > messages, no > > check is done (even pressing Ctrl-Alt-J) >=20 > Note that Ctrl-Alt-J applies only to *selected* messages, not to > every > message in the current view. Yes, I know... I select some messages and execute the check for junk (sorry but I have a localized version and I'm not sure about the correct entry in the menu). The fact is that no check is done if the configuration option is unchecked. It's very clear using the debug option. When the check is on, I can see that the message is checked by evo and there are 3 possibility (spam, good or unsure). If the message is spam it is moved to the junk folder. When the check is off, nothing is logged in the shell and nothing appens to the message. Even if it is spam, it remains on the original folder. Bye Ambrogio From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Wed Sep 20 12:48:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC4B77064 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:48:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vgzBgjF1Qo87 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp201.alice.it (smtp201.alice.it [82.57.200.97]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E15E77056 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (79.17.66.249) by smtp201.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 5981B989194E2256; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:47:44 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8KClNlu009365; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:47:23 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8KClM2k009364; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:47:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: Milan Crha , evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:47:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:48:19 -0000 Hello Milan, =09 > Hi, > it's supposed to run the Junk filter (yes, it's a filter) on the > currently selected messages regardless of the option in the account > properties. If it doesn't, then it's a bug. I thought it was like that. I had a lot of tests before to write here. As I wrote also to Patrick, I can see in the log that the check is done only if the option is selected in the account properties. I can't test with the very last evolution version, cause I have this fedora installation, but maybe someone can do the same tests on another version in order to confirm my results. > > Can I have the junk email marked as unread as I can understand that > > i > > have spam to be checked? >=20 > I'm afraid it's related to the fact that the messages are moved to a > different real folder. The servers can set the \Seen flag during the > move operation. To know for sure, it might need more testing. I will check changing back to a virtual folder, to verify if it's better to have a virtual or real folder. I prefer a real folder because is easier to have a unique filter and to have all messages moved to a different folder. So other clients that access to this account can see only good messages in the inbox. I will update with new results as soon as possible. Tnx Ambrogio >=20 From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Wed Sep 20 13:35:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC57706D for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uaVkWcy1HRmm for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp203.alice.it (smtp203.alice.it [82.57.200.99]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A9F77068 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (79.17.66.249) by smtp203.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 59846DB614132D7A for evolution-list@gnome.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:34:59 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8KDYcAa009948 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:34:39 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8KDYcPE009947 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:34:38 +0200 Message-ID: <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:34:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:34 -0000 Hello Milan, I changed the configuration. Check 1 Removed the real junk folder and removed the tick on check for junk mail. Restart evolution Results: No check on incoming messages. Junk folder populated with some messages (maybe there are in the DB List) Spam Folder with all old spam messages. No check with Ctrl-Alt-J Check 2 Check on account properties for check junk on incoming messages Results: No check on incoming messages. No check with Ctrl-Alt-J Check 3 Restart evolution after Check 2 without any changes. Results: Check on incoming messages. The new messages in junk folder are unread. Check working also with Ctrl-Alt-J So, I think that there are two bugs. The first related to properties configurations. I need to restart evo after modifying the antispam check. The second is related to the junk filter that is not issued by Ctrl-Alt -J is the scan is not enabled on the account. What do you suggest for this. I have to fill a bug issue? 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dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.103]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8F760BE6 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:12:45 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]); Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:12:11 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 15:34 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > What do you suggest for this. I have to fill a bug issue? Hi, right, ideally file one bug for each issue, in GNOME bugzilla. The detail about IMAP account is sort of important, though it's implicit as soon as you mention real Junk folder for the account (no other accounts allow this). If I read it properly, then you have basically three issues: 1) changing "Check incoming messages for Junk" option for the account requires Evolution restart to take effect 2) Message->Check for Junk works only when option from 1) is checked 3) Using real Junk folder, the moved messages do not keep Unread flag (which can depend on the server handling too). The first two are closely related, I'll keep it up to you whether you want to use one report for them or two separate. I don't mind. Thanks and bye, Milan From mcrha@redhat.com Thu Sep 21 07:16:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B777134 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:16:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3k_vGeB80sPk for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 492777712E for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 004EA8765C for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:15:33 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 004EA8765C Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.103]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BAB18BA0 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505978198.2277.12.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505923503.4337.2.camel@cewe.de> References: <1505923503.4337.2.camel@cewe.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:16:38 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to set default folder column order to descending date X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:16:05 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 16:05 +0000, Schlatow, Sebastian wrote: > how can I set the default mail order to descending date for all > folders? Hi, either use Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display section->[x] Apply the same view settings to all folders, or setup the desired view and then save it with View->Current View->Save Custom View and then select that saved view in your folders. As the default view is Messages, then if you save it as that, then all regular folders which have it set will use it. As can be seen, the later option is more powerful, but less intuitive. 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banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 44753 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2017 08:53:34 -0000 Received: from mail.cewecolor.de (HELO OLEX12v.cewe.lan) (80.228.25.75) by server-2.tower-21.messagelabs.com with AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted SMTP; 21 Sep 2017 08:53:34 -0000 Received: from OLEX11v.cewe.lan (10.220.24.111) by OLEX12v.cewe.lan (10.220.24.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.1.845.34; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:53:33 +0200 Received: from OLEX11v.cewe.lan ([fe80::3966:6797:8356:6924]) by OLEX11v.cewe.lan ([fe80::3966:6797:8356:6924%19]) with mapi id 15.01.0845.034; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:53:33 +0200 From: "Schlatow, Sebastian" To: "evolution-list@gnome.org" Thread-Topic: [Evolution] How to set default folder column order to descending date Thread-Index: AQHTMipLBCCNvgPrcE2Bs44sbdIpt6K+zUUAgAAa84A= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:53:33 +0000 Message-ID: <1505983985.16905.7.camel@cewe.de> References: <1505923503.4337.2.camel@cewe.de> <1505978198.2277.12.camel@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1505978198.2277.12.camel@redhat.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [10.220.24.1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <0730FE07BF3D0944BB0B237EFE4C139C@cewe.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to set default folder column order to descending date X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:00:42 -0000 SGkgTWlsYW4sDQoNCnRoYW5rIHlvdS4gVGhhdCBpcyBoYXJkIHRvIGZpbmQuIDspIEFsc28gaWYg SSBhY3RpdmF0ZSBpdCwgaXQgY2hhbmdlcw0KbXkgY3VycmVudCB2aWV3ICAoU3RhdHVzLCBGbGFn Z2VkLCBNZXNzYWdlcykgd2hpY2ggYXJlIGFscmVhZHkgaW4NCmRlc2NlbmRpbmcgZGF0ZSBvcmRl ciB0byAoU3RhdHVzLCBBdHRhY2htZW50LCBGbGFnZ2VkLCBGcm9tLCBTdWJqZWN0LA0KRGF0ZSkg aW4gdXNlciBkZWZpbmVkIG9yZGVyLiBUaGUgdmlldyBjaGFuZ2VzIGZvciBhbGwgZm9sZGVycyBh ZnRlciBJDQpjaGFuZ2UgdG8gYW5vdGhlciBmb2xkZXIuDQoNCkl0IHdvdWxkIGJlIGdyZWF0IGlm IGl0IGNvdWxkIGtlZXAgbXkgY3VycmVudCB2aWV3IGNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24uDQoNCg0KUmVnYXJk cyBTZWJhc3RpYW4NCg0KDQpBbSBEb25uZXJzdGFnLCBkZW4gMjEuMDkuMjAxNywgMDk6MTYgKzAy MDAgc2NocmllYiBNaWxhbiBDcmhhOg0KPiBPbiBXZWQsIDIwMTctMDktMjAgYXQgMTY6MDUgKzAw MDAsIFNjaGxhdG93LCBTZWJhc3RpYW4gd3JvdGU6DQo+ID4gaG93IGNhbiBJIHNldCB0aGUgZGVm YXVsdCBtYWlsIG9yZGVyIHRvIGRlc2NlbmRpbmcgZGF0ZSBmb3IgYWxsDQo+ID4gZm9sZGVycz8N Cj4NCj4gSGksDQo+IGVpdGhlciB1c2UgRWRpdC0+UHJlZmVyZW5jZXMtPk1haWwgUHJlZmVyZW5j ZXMtPkdlbmVyYWwgdGFiLT5NZXNzYWdlDQo+IERpc3BsYXkgc2VjdGlvbi0+W3hdIEFwcGx5IHRo ZSBzYW1lIHZpZXcgc2V0dGluZ3MgdG8gYWxsIGZvbGRlcnMsIG9yDQo+IHNldHVwIHRoZSBkZXNp cmVkIHZpZXcgYW5kIHRoZW4gc2F2ZSBpdCB3aXRoIFZpZXctPkN1cnJlbnQgVmlldy0+U2F2ZQ0K PiBDdXN0b20gVmlldyBhbmQgdGhlbiBzZWxlY3QgdGhhdCBzYXZlZCB2aWV3IGluIHlvdXIgZm9s ZGVycy4gQXMgdGhlDQo+IGRlZmF1bHQgdmlldyBpcyBNZXNzYWdlcywgdGhlbiBpZiB5b3Ugc2F2 ZSBpdCBhcyB0aGF0LCB0aGVuIGFsbA0KPiByZWd1bGFyDQo+IGZvbGRlcnMgd2hpY2ggaGF2ZSBp dCBzZXQgd2lsbCB1c2UgaXQuIEFzIGNhbiBiZSBzZWVuLCB0aGUgbGF0ZXINCj4gb3B0aW9uDQo+ IGlzIG1vcmUgcG93ZXJmdWwsIGJ1dCBsZXNzIGludHVpdGl2ZS4NCj4gQnllLA0KPiBNaWxhbg0K PiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiBldm9s dXRpb24tbGlzdCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4gZXZvbHV0aW9uLWxpc3RAZ25vbWUub3JnDQo+IFRv IGNoYW5nZSB5b3VyIGxpc3Qgb3B0aW9ucyBvciB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSwgdmlzaXQgLi4uDQo+IGh0 dHBzOi8vbWFpbC5nbm9tZS5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9ldm9sdXRpb24tbGlzdA0KDQoN CkNFV0UgU3RpZnR1bmcgJiBDby4gS0dhQSBtaXQgU2l0eiBpbiBPbGRlbmJ1cmc7IFJlZ2lzdGVy Z2VyaWNodCBPbGRlbmJ1cmcgSFIgQiAyMDgyMTQ7IFBlcnPDtm5saWNoIGhhZnRlbmRlIGdlc2No w6RmdHNmw7xocmVuZGUgdW5kIHZlcnRyZXR1bmdzYmVyZWNodGlndGUgR2VzZWxsc2NoYWZ0ZXJp bjoNCk5ldW3DvGxsZXIgQ0VXRSBDT0xPUiBTdGlmdHVuZywgU2l0ejogT2xkZW5idXJnOw0KU3Rp ZnR1bmdzdmVyemVpY2huaXMgZGVyIHJlY2h0c2bDpGhpZ2VuIFN0aWZ0dW5nZW4gZGVzIGLDvHJn ZXJsaWNoZW4gUmVjaHRzIGltIEJlemlyayBkZXIgUmVnaWVydW5nc3ZlcnRyZXR1bmcgT2xkZW5i dXJnIE51bW1lciAxNSgwMzQpLg0KU3RpZnR1bmdzdm9yc3RhbmQ6DQpEci4gQ2hyaXN0aWFuIEZy aWVnZSAoVm9yc2l0emVuZGVyKSwgUGF0cmljayBCZXJraG91d2VyLCBEci4gUmVpbmVyIEZhZ2V0 aCwgQ2Fyc3RlbiBIZWl0a2FtcCwgRHIuIE9sYWYgSG9semvDpG1wZXIsIFRob21hcyBNZWhscywg RnJhbmsgWndlaWdsZQ0KQXVmc2ljaHRzcmF0Og0KT3R0byBLb3J0ZSAoVm9yc2l0emVuZGVyKQ0K VVNUIElELU5yLiBERTgxNTQ1MzgwNjsgU3QuLU5yLiA2NC8yMDAvMzg5OTk7IEdMTiA0MCAwNDQ2 OCAwMDAwMCA0DQo= From mcrha@redhat.com Thu Sep 21 11:44:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17128270081 for ; 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dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-103.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.103]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF7171A5 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1505994261.31028.7.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1505983985.16905.7.camel@cewe.de> References: <1505923503.4337.2.camel@cewe.de> <1505978198.2277.12.camel@redhat.com> <1505983985.16905.7.camel@cewe.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:44:21 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to set default folder column order to descending date X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:44:34 -0000 On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 08:53 +0000, Schlatow, Sebastian wrote: > It would be great if it could keep my current view configuration. Hi, do you mean 'after you setup Evolution to use the same view for all folders' or 'after you move from one folder to another'? There is a little ambiguity in your statement. If it's the former, then it's because it uses the last view setting for that option. Whether it's made by you long ago, or a template provided by Evolution, I cannot tell. Maybe it's a pita, though once you know, you'll make changes to the view only after you check/uncheck the option in Preferences. Also, it's "for all folders of a similar kind", with which I mean that Sent and Outbox folders are special (they, for example, show 'To' instead of 'From' column), thus these share different setting than regular folders. Bye, Milan From herr_oswald@gmx.de Fri Sep 22 09:53:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB2076C81 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:53:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id seZ6_98P021X for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8667A762B3 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Simux ([82.119.0.33]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LrIPo-1dEFYw1jgK-01361M for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:53:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1506073981.1778.5.camel@gmx.de> From: Herr Oswald To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:53:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505901441.10746.12.camel@redhat.com> References: <1503376306.1813.3.camel@gmx.de> <1503392111.23008.8.camel@gmx.net> <1503447503.1163.1.camel@16bits.net> <1505837983.1668.5.camel@gmx.de> <1505838852.25158.40.camel@biggs.org.uk> <1505896955.18177.23.camel@gmail.com> <1505898165.1715.1.camel@gmx.de> <1505901441.10746.12.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:o61YKt6Ii2pzYFUA/NK6vaWj2Jy2ljjQW3PnN9YGEzLDH5bJXip OvB0GWYmkptupnRyRaB8K8AUo1KXoFMlgl695p3Ui+V2xtPq60fqZ7DHJFGaFMZ//M0BOqb /fNNczTypsyqxN8y1Et5N41kzYwRtiJYelJxWgDsWcYqIwOgaLvUIwtut0BTS22TmXhbuJu swCneLtYEK+ONlhQyAbWA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:FwcvsCPk0mw=:F72jEKOq7n5hMMSKHyaB6F 811cyfeJ6j9pmOJSGsruxrDGPWfmJimgUq2abmxd18gvWstPwbEmrO8GVpQjoqecR9i0PG3/N 5FAPc292nFBks/f6UQb90ANUjJvT+/PsQ4irz9aXaDIsDXHpyJt5He3K18gMfm3TS1SXcrHJY KwQ/jguSo0mIhv9iIeODoLbB57A8GEPw7gI6MviO7TORs6tVKj6KAS/us+5rDzRhkrEoaWrc7 yc3bbXIyAxp/d9OBwD3LrSVQYm9A+CRMx/Vfj9R0nsK2LSseezZYG3wcrKJf0dczsK/CEAgfx rFUuhctoCYoxpKXl+zEV8kxq6FYwFiVHjIMVur9VD5buxaE/+vVyuJ4u83fdkRpCfgMmnA1d1 xUIRIJ3KQMq/T4kibDA5fTSRtIQVnmvcuW6VxZmE0fb0DfJOHfLK6wAFnUUPlhwrMDQ0ZxIo4 k4DV6x3k5OibF6BChEKQrVkpav7fCW4IPQkveBmrfDZWTOoCs2Bl4yS1VDdJJnNnv6IEUxbXZ bTjmQYA7iN8IT+XWp8CRo2efteFDet0ogEcv8OI9JJMZ6z1hIIWR+75/SeSRFYj0VDHvbPpIZ fSm9xkUYfDf/qjpT/23UhcLcAjcSEWjTyxJ2ZID3qffebw5B2iZQR9UoBw0vI3itVgknREq1t mleszICGbJS3d4iSgQYh4s1iorzVfACc9qxwXG4hGRdpXn/xdyVLgQKYnjkYd1RVqAayc3RZe xWEc3NjRPtoCES2ri1JKFPeVHQLvmNPDfYrH1OrKfPJTA25SX6YbE5NxzjuVCjom3cLO9xfGg zSk3RJQ4alg8ePEYtTUf1BLToxFt2nMARkve44sZBvtQMUoQN0= Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:53:37 -0000 Am Mittwoch, den 20.09.2017, 11:57 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha: > On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 11:02 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > > I still vote for an attempt to make evo more robust against > > network losses and other incidents and provide an enhanced > > reconnect > > feature >=20 > You mentioned in the launchpad bug report this error message: > > "Failed to lookup credentials: Failed to get password from > > GOA: timeout" >=20 > It means that it's not on the evolution side, but on the GOA > (goa-daemon) side, that it does something such long that the request > made by evolution-data-server times out. Accidentally, I made some > changes in eds recently [1], which ignore this error when calling > certain function of the GOA interface. The main changes should go to > GOA, though. Well... IMHO it is not a good thing when a network related programme like evo does not comfortably work with unreliable network connections. Think about a laptop with a GSM/UMTS connection. This will (at least in Germany) completely drop out several times an hour, and it's really annoying if the user always has to do the reconnect manually - and in the GOA thing even with a number of mouse clicks f=C3=BCr several calendars= . =20 W From awilliam@whitemice.org Fri Sep 22 10:28:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952B676C82 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:28:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I5feKvXH1dTT for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wmmi.net (aleph.wmmi.net [72.14.190.87]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10BDD764C9 for ; 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charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] reconnect X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:28:53 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 11:53 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 20.09.2017, 11:57 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha: > > I still vote for an attempt to make evo more robust against > > > network losses and other incidents and provide an enhanced > > > reconnect > > > feature > > You mentioned in the launchpad bug report this error message: > > > "Failed to lookup credentials: Failed to get password from > > > GOA: timeout" > > It means that it's not on the evolution side, but on the GOA > > (goa-daemon) side, that it does something such long that the > > request > Well... > IMHO it is not a good thing when a network related programme like evo > does not comfortably work with unreliable network connections. Think > about a laptop with a GSM/UMTS connection. Sure, it is not awesome - but I've also never seen it work 100% reliably on any platform, especially with cellular service.  Even down to the level of applications & libraries caching negative name resolution requests. . . it is a dicey business. We see a fair amount of the-browser-won't-work calls due to disconnect/connect [platform independent].  It is even worse when a user skips between different wireless networks. I've always felt the 'real' solution to this would be to connect applications through a VPN tunnel which is architected to be resilient and patient;  patient as jumping back in too soon is a frequent source of problems.  But I've never seen such a thing. > This will (at least in > Germany) completely drop out several times an hour, and it's really > annoying if the user always has to do the reconnect manually - and in > the GOA thing even with a number of mouse clicks für several > calendars. -- Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awilliam@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Fri Sep 22 15:35:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D36476C93 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14ZBoCMcnW0C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp203.alice.it (smtp203.alice.it [82.57.200.99]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EED76C97 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (79.17.66.249) by smtp203.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 59846DB6149FED74 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:34:30 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8MFY8p5012064 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:34:08 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8MFY8Kw012063 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:34:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:34:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:35:21 -0000 Hi Milan Il giorno gio, 21/09/2017 alle 09.12 +0200, Milan Crha ha scritto: > > Hi, > right, ideally file one bug for each issue, in GNOME bugzilla. The > detail about IMAP account is sort of important, though it's implicit > as > soon as you mention real Junk folder for the account (no other > accounts > allow this). I submitted 3 bugs on bugzilla, so they can managed separately. I have another question... how is possible to have an updated evolution installation even if I use Fedora and in the fedora repo there is only evolution 3.24.5? 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 204sm240652wms.1.2017.09.22.08.41.17 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506094876.6076.2.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:41:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:42:03 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 17:34 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > I submitted 3 bugs on bugzilla, so they can managed separately. Please post the bug numbers here in case anyone wants to add to them. poc From ak-47@gmx.net Fri Sep 22 16:44:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182EB76BD1 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:44:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FMIi-oPLDMsO for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C6EE76CA4 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([86.49.112.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LuwiT-1dDKjm19eL-0101pf for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:43:27 +0200 Message-ID: <1506098599.20668.14.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:43:19 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HTFbSSJQCeYXbNv77y6i3g24bxD5Ikr4I31mPW50BCNd68+UXNN rcleiFTxxY84q3PBaAuEd95sMLJacwStFHaHqydhIa5UyFiHxuV6UOfmpZTgEmmZTzV459l ob4NJW8lnSzZq5yksopZR6U6LknkFiH31r3WK67aSGT/5BCc1xDIbXxWeNt76xccCAvXG0y l42jcssz9vMl0kudyvFIQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:r/nQBJ18lT8=:IyzRmuYSpO8OZuBF0E1IWP 5jVx44zM7qGP9DuuC8FJs+IN9DsXxYnWwjNLwsQqFUwZeiirQRgX6GWLUyUA+AZ1XQ5TbHDzf 5YGjyyDwTTiUCGs/BdgGD0fWPPIMO1jAJWOP+gkUI4wCCVAUAevz7wvbzuDUVIn5r1Du0gNus 7M5V6MJKcg/r5V8XOyO2uuq/EY5lqfmy04BU3Zigla0z0PHS9Q6/6Sbw2scLkXoa16fK+r7MD sVOlbkjlMaY0RkiqDeTvqVui5nSyc2cexbvBZ6szoTlEKgHxwznT+daSwYdrnfe0SIQWOml3O USvefEEXmxqZLpDpKvqgN/iYtT/T1hm3HT3lEkch5Qm+7aG6yBSh9OzyYGJ8DT7RwC2PDD5nd E90IfRguw5z6IRqHK0lQfklqa5ENVgG/qjne3CkdHOiHb7xwJJqlBEYE5D5U5EIIm5KeloXhf F3Bx+LOVrGKCwFS5fOPScuuMj2yzPfsXG9Qezej2LQEnSU00EhX+UXN+ZzUzc4VLMTAJzuh/A Lbnb2j+HjssvIYCvTFoCrCqhnTHKjtgfok34mZBsV9mBBVq4SHz7tFi2hl+r0SQ3gZs9syzV+ cNnntXfK4B5+fdWJDzkI8HpVZjPbZCZQsGAqjgA//ZGEXLQsQBltsAyT9v0udjxu+ZynNHvLA fAgNrDjxa5Gh1o6cpjTE6dxpHaHLGGrCgtVyNMykCN4pQwa7KOGjqA9HiYw1k3KAP2OoiOK1z 9Oj+HTxxOEFyFuyMvJGq/u+6mw7oOsB/fuQG/LM1EF5TG3gRPk4cBFLBiXeReTv1sA/kLB41M D1pfQkeejPLoy6lJgTdKroRB0ZO12Umzh1y/Gvk6AfjM/7aT+4= Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:44:02 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 17:34 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > I have another question... how is possible to have an updated evolution > installation even if I use Fedora and in the fedora repo there is only > evolution 3.24.5? By running the latest (and possibly unstable) version of your favorite distribution. Or by learning how to compile (newer) software yourself. In this specific case: The Fedora 27 repositories do offer Evolution 3.26. If you want to run [unstable] Fedora 27 is up to you. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Fri Sep 22 18:19:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BADB76CC4 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.108 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.108 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8h5TS73fJW5k for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:19:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 501 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:19:06 UTC Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E247976CC7 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BFAE976E0 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 20:10:42 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506103842; bh=ZE+tDhXQJJcWP8INCGaKXmCRqrrGTEsOJoJ98MkPtsI=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=s6zVLmcu+fXBizznhvi/0hNCZ3FYyCDHZmcmB0kYM7SyjJZP8e3DgY725S6OTMVAt rrkh8R6ow4pFVEuKrBtbgA5StGnz60gGKHDGoNQusYyCRU66Uj/2dY7RunNKgJ1hpL xsR9YIsH40S4ZYp35jsZToiWQihKVPi+Sq8mGSQE2R3g8uD13qROE3d2CesXqCDHHw XZX1qs9NzMj8Bg4hVd7m5u9r2cm0mBUbQw3hwuTsCcRkrTbTjjGkrorSFYl44gFUVq oExwhkmDHLvAFWOJ6HFHK49SmrMQomdj7UkiO3j9Fh4ozCyb4//P76jCsIndUiJkAD HwGwIXVHM8ZRw== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id 21EE39DBD6; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 20:10:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:10:42 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:19:47 -0000 Greetings to evolution team! Just today I wanted to start using the program but uncovered a stopper, listed in subject. To my huge surprise it has been reported almost three years ago and still completely ignored. Josh. 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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j6sm339248wmg.28.2017.09.22.13.54.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506113693.6076.6.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:54:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 20:55:39 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 14:10 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > Greetings to evolution team! > > Just today I wanted to start using the program but uncovered a stopper, listed in subject. > To my huge surprise it has been reported almost three years ago and still completely ignored. What program? Please give the version you mean (Help->About if you mean Evolution). You don't explain what you mean by information disclosure, nor do you give a reference to the previous report. If you are concerned about this then kindly take the trouble to clarify. poc From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Fri Sep 22 21:36:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690C76C0C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:36:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PPD27h7WLZV3 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A565C764C7 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59915B7C74 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:36:11 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506116171; bh=CkP7lvbet23WVHjTuaE9lgNc0Ogr6rm6e7XPnElF91Y=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=VSFpwiItciBs9eLllLPDxgoTIoNCSZUR3aKg2sdLdQMLYJH7uFQnTXrw/UCjjOLD8 Ae4bP0dxOCf1/UKDn3TQvNmg6HQwl/tEXjEMuHW7Gf8gDFkTOd1AazBFQV9gOidqOF rP2lUlQ+LagJlf6kmmqMEM6fvujDqEoGKMm0r5ZPYXkOtMkc2yd0DZBeXwUDlDTGWg wxweYu1A9oRUWwXMHIiz7x4t3sUmcw48ZHbw9XFvBUP6UQmnqwLbLYU/kEeAGUVH2R ZoIPFdVC24ite3sZIDybXhB9WWjOLbDd6DC+76+Q3LaC3mnLKazQYhE9mfKwWEv4M7 WOeiW9UsmQrpw== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id 3C3779DBD6; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:36:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:36:11 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:36:55 -0000 On 09/22/2017 04:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 14:10 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > >> Greetings to evolution team! >> Just today I wanted to start using the program but uncovered a stopper, >> listed in subject. >> To my huge surprise it has been reported almost three years ago and still >> completely ignored. >> > What program? Please give the version you mean (Help->About if you mean > Evolution). > You don't explain what you mean by information disclosure, nor do you > give a reference to the previous report. If you are concerned about > this then kindly take the trouble to clarify. Patrick, >From https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738247 I see the following: ==== Product: evolution-data-server Version: 3.24.x Problem Description: Local host name shows up in recipient email headers. Sent from evolution: Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] helo=myhost.mydomain.ext) Sent from thunderbird: Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] helo=[local IP]) helo message must be changed to avoid local host name disclosure. ==== Seems like a pretty extensive report. I have nothing to add other then my exact version is 3.24.5. Josh. 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Main elements as Active Directory and Exchange stay without changes. Is it possible to build automatic porcedures based on Active Directory information to create Evolution configuration without another user activity? I think abount migration users to Evolution with first login to new system. I not found any information in Evolution documentation abount that posibility. Sorry, for my english. Dargrim Stark --001a11401f30bc06240559e13ef5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I need = to migrate many of Outlook users to Evolution with Exchange plugin due to c= hange Win10 to Linux (Ubuntu or Debian). Main elements as Active Directory = and Exchange stay without changes.

Is it possible to build aut= omatic porcedures based on Active Directory information to create=C2=A0 Evo= lution configuration without another user activity? I think abount migratio= n users to Evolution with first login to new system.

I not fou= nd any information in Evolution documentation abount that posibility.
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Sorry, for my english.

Dargrim Stark
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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u186sm3451753wmd.19.2017.09.23.14.52.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:52:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:53:37 -0000 On Sat, 2017-09-23 at 22:33 +0200, PBB Droid wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I need to migrate many of Outlook users to Evolution with Exchange plugin > due to change Win10 to Linux (Ubuntu or Debian). Main elements as Active > Directory and Exchange stay without changes. > > Is it possible to build automatic porcedures based on Active Directory > information to create Evolution configuration without another user > activity? I think abount migration users to Evolution with first login to > new system. > > I not found any information in Evolution documentation abount that > posibility. I don't know if anyone has done that, but as an absolute minimum it is *essential* to say what version of Evolution you will be using. poc From pbbdroid@gmail.com Sun Sep 24 12:52:41 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E33376DDF for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:52:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.885 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6VTmcJW28jiv for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f180.google.com (mail-wr0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E4F76DDB for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f180.google.com with SMTP id l22so3829456wrc.10 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Cj1mDq9oo4zqjPQsCL3/y5DD6Ch0Hb3LR5dPcy6I5vM=; b=E1mD6UoLX3w3uFCXDwPC/141fuX7q22L5mq9JMtZOK6lSFZt01qWnbtRYMjbhq5U+F VVziyptF3DgoTZ+vDrnBqgf4pYj/Ut13Gjaqy1d3vHTUDmYL2hKbEzDr6ZXrbfak31Hn IULVWpWXZJeE6rBD+Ily+NS244YYHC6MiacG2VO7z7qpxqU4nVQgQ/xseCQzJSle6EZq XIWL8CXMdsxi3R/8lBj11QiRWEMhCYLaqT2TOLEPmcVVAliw1u+b3KeCp7oZKq9SZZQz JFo25q348H2EjKuQ73TSXvGr6voM46OXR+1jwl8ll+FHKiCMavQDBtA+DGGdy8L/4hDc y9jQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Cj1mDq9oo4zqjPQsCL3/y5DD6Ch0Hb3LR5dPcy6I5vM=; b=rIHbmuWa71M42rZsuSBAMaMckR1RD0tKkpfVF5txWp77/tDoNFzLyo0tJnEkZCwzdn lshsKMYvGhxO8j/9aLV1etn+9OHWmNIM0Q91mQ8xgHv9WcEZVwIZBykn9mZEIP4sYTqB oxe6QZtZ7NhwznnOG+8gLgdcrL6P0hlUAtQS69+XLB0ov1f0YF36wnlbrtuoAa95Wj7+ cmiR1U5jXV5UGagmdnL+FJhDqJBtv8IMlGHsuObnOB7LvQGwZfqZLMSWMdCH3QNxqypL XWAWCbQFiZrwdM9y8p2Fyucxpxzy5BJSgYiPvjD1Le0ukPFL3CY87VUPOeWQIYsy8wjl p67g== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUizQHNc9zP+nZiM7OGXiQM/su8vHxw2IdXQGAoUwxm5FIxRgU5f rpDMnKfVgsDGgJt5jzWJjeOVDKvpo09HipMqm3Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAW93/l+r0DiCmx0Nc15OUJlpPIjJ4SdZxmq/SVsfopLtrFj28BEgtJ0awAQ5fT4FzMuV4f+wkRHPbgkxWELQI= X-Received: by 10.25.72.16 with SMTP id v16mr1300967lfa.72.1506257537547; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.33.131 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> From: PBB Droid Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 14:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: To: evolution-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c1a170a7742d20559eee961" Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:52:41 -0000 --94eb2c1a170a7742d20559eee961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Patrick, thank you for response. In last system image i have Evolution 3.18.5, but finally perhaps will be newer. I have more than 10k users, but many of them don't have IT background. Perhaps they can do Evolution configuration with instruction, but automatic migration will be better for me in many aspects. I search posibilities how can i do it, if it possible? Dargrim 2017-09-23 23:52 GMT+02:00 Patrick O'Callaghan : > On Sat, 2017-09-23 at 22:33 +0200, PBB Droid wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I need to migrate many of Outlook users to Evolution with Exchange plugin > > due to change Win10 to Linux (Ubuntu or Debian). Main elements as Active > > Directory and Exchange stay without changes. > > > > Is it possible to build automatic porcedures based on Active Directory > > information to create Evolution configuration without another user > > activity? I think abount migration users to Evolution with first login to > > new system. > > > > I not found any information in Evolution documentation abount that > > posibility. > > I don't know if anyone has done that, but as an absolute minimum it is > *essential* to say what version of Evolution you will be using. > > poc > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > --94eb2c1a170a7742d20559eee961 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Patrick, thank you for response. In last system image i ha= ve =C2=A0Evolution 3.18.5, but finally perhaps will be newer. I have =C2=A0= more than 10k users, but many of them don't have IT background. Perhaps= they can do Evolution configuration with instruction, but automatic migrat= ion will be better for me in many aspects. I search posibilities how can i = do it, if it possible?

Dargrim

2017-09-23 23:52 GMT+02:00 Patr= ick O'Callaghan <poc@usb.ve>:
On Sat, 2017-09-23 at 22:33 +0200, PBB Droid wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I need to migrate many of Outlook users to Evolution with Exchange plu= gin
> due to change Win10 to Linux (Ubuntu or Debian). Main elements as Acti= ve
> Directory and Exchange stay without changes.
>
> Is it possible to build automatic porcedures based on Active Directory=
> information to create=C2=A0 Evolution configuration without another us= er
> activity? I think abount migration users to Evolution with first login= to
> new system.
>
> I not found any information in Evolution documentation abount that
> posibility.

I don't know if anyone has done that, but as an absolute minimum= it is
*essential* to say what version of Evolution you will be using.

poc
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[82.69.61.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d6sm2365393edl.3.2017.09.24.06.04.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 24 Sep 2017 06:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506258280.20182.5.camel@usb.ve> From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 14:04:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:05:27 -0000 On Sun, 2017-09-24 at 14:52 +0200, PBB Droid wrote: > Patrick, thank you for response. In last system image i have Evolution > 3.18.5, but finally perhaps will be newer. I have more than 10k users, but > many of them don't have IT background. Perhaps they can do Evolution > configuration with instruction, but automatic migration will be better for > me in many aspects. I search posibilities how can i do it, if it possible? [Please don't top-post on this list, it tends to mangle threads] You definitely want the latest version of Evolution you can get for your platform. I have no experience with Outlook, nor Exchange as I've managed to survive an entire 40-year IT career without ever using either of them. However I'm sure plenty of people on the list can help you. In the meantime, a quick Google search throws up several links, though beware that some are out of date. Best of luck. poc From mcrha@redhat.com Mon Sep 25 07:02:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371D876E61 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.902 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fYGLLV7Lcn27 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6AB76BFA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31021A78B for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:28 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 31021A78B Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.149]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9893F5C545 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506322727.2276.4.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1506098599.20668.14.camel@gmx.net> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> <1506098599.20668.14.camel@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:58:47 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:02:51 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 18:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Or by learning how to compile (newer) software yourself. Hi, there are some tips how to do it in case of Evolution, which might be useful for someone. One only about the build: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building The other, since 3.26 also as a sandboxed version, which can run independently of the host system (to some extent, which has also some limitations, as the Wiki page says at the very top): https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak Bye, Milan From mcrha@redhat.com Mon Sep 25 07:23:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C882276E61 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p3hLK9gslQU9 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EA1A76BFA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB303652C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:23 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com AB303652C Authentication-Results: ext-mx10.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx10.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.149]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2086E61980 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:22:50 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.39]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:23:55 -0000 On Sun, 2017-09-24 at 14:52 +0200, PBB Droid wrote: > In last system image i have Evolution 3.18.5, but finally perhaps > will be newer. Hi, the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some autoconfiguration stuff, for which I've been promised by the author to write also a documentation, but it didn't happen, as far as I know. The corresponding bug report is (committed for 3.24.0): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773156 The old way is to have preconfigured .source files and change them to your needs (the above method works similarly, but the distribution is more automated). Here is written where evolution stores its data: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en while the most important is ~/.config/evolution/sources/ where the accounts store their configuration. You can configure an Exchange account (I suppose you'll use evolution-ews) on one machine and see what .source files had been added to that folder. Then you edit them and store there correct user name (and other information related to respective users) and then you'll distribute those files on the machines. I suggest to use Offline Global Address List, if possible. Some users have even scripts which do the configuration. You can eventually use GNOME Online Accounts to configure EWS (Exchange Web Services) account, if you do not want too much control on the settings. Bye, Milan From mcrha@redhat.com Mon Sep 25 07:41:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C2776E62 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:41:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id raN6J4jAeVNj for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1174876BFA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F5557CDE2 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:40:45 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 7F5557CDE2 Authentication-Results: ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.149]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91EF619A5 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 09:41:47 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:41:17 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 17:36 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > Sent from evolution: > Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] > helo=myhost.mydomain.ext) > > Sent from thunderbird: > Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] helo=[local IP]) Hi, what is better on local IP (which can be a public IP too), than using a local host name, which might not be accessible (resolved) from the outside? Is there related any shame on the chosen computer name? I can understand the need to "stay anonymous" for spammers or the like, but regular good citizens might not have a problem with this, maybe? Looking around, the SMTP transport uses the name only if g_resolver_lookup_by_address() returns anything for the address returned by g_socket_connection_get_local_address(). There is no option to skip this lookup. Bye, Milan P.S.: for some reason, your reply to Patrick doesn't contain headers for proper threading. Maybe your mail client needs a fix to include In-Reply-To and References headers in replies. Just saying, no offense meant. 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[47.211.88.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g89sm164616otg.6.2017.09.25.05.55.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 05:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> From: Len Philpot Reply-To: lphilpot01@gmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:55:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:55:43 -0000 > the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some autoconfiguration That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've seen, nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step process :-)  Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version? Thanks. -- Len Philpotlphilpot01@gmail.comSent from Evolution on Xubuntu Linux From mcrha@redhat.com Mon Sep 25 16:35:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5733876291 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WPMGOF984dRb for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6B6D76C89 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28B954E028 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 28B954E028 Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-149.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.149]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9316517F5F for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506357092.9051.8.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:31:32 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:35:44 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 07:55 -0500, Len Philpot wrote: > > the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some > > autoconfiguration > > That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've seen, > nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. Hi, I guess it's not related to the migration process, thus kind of off-topic for this thread. > Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've > built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's > dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step process > :-) > > Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version? Right, these questions come semi-regularly on this list, mostly from Ubuntu users, and the answer is mostly the same: ask Ubuntu maintainers and/or on Ubuntu forums (this applies generally for distro-specific questions, not only for Ubuntu). There had been also answers about some gnome3-staging ppa or what it was, I do not recall, I do not use Ubuntu. Feel free to read these two Wiki pages: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak The first describes why the dependency on evolution-data-server is so tricky that "getting new Evolution" means much more than "getting only new Evolution". The second makes things easier, but has its downsides too (also described there). Bye, Milan From david.burleigh@gmx.com Mon Sep 25 17:01:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3580076E77 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 199MPLxjmTxs for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC08A76291 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from debian ([97.89.236.112]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MYOkT-1drs3I1uRF-00V6j4 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:00:45 +0200 Message-ID: <1506358843.2311.111.camel@gmx.com> From: David Burleigh To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:00:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1506357092.9051.8.camel@redhat.com> References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> <1506357092.9051.8.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-X/W5AiaLh7yTP0csgaAl" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.0-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:uC9i+z2IgGZ73To0Ma8ujCIgHhXLhw7tdkK1mN7UWZdJhF5qSJU sXUM+VLFMFZbMCXhXzH5ZZLjw21fy55ZQFm3lFviHIOGzvyyZqcS94mqDGa2gegpW0O6cl7 TyTu5pC0Y/EmEoKfKea3PJN6Zw/hoVPj7CmEb3cMkRt0h8tIaUuPuKKFeUj8OHaAC2LTRKu XXTtJHqmneGJlzuLm3OCw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OTjJXRptml4=:LlGN0lowuoCkT43XNvxnVh hvC8nx40BI40hdXLMS8Ybfsd2jU5hCCbMDFm0yf9C7Z88F13H059i6Q6tORhh9zU/s7jwBRBf VtYApeGph7lWYxfCiNPmMGRYxierjoD0PBZacIqrCI/OJe/9fl8X6HMXvru574gTWhrLeBVHz ngmZ52YYIlG4rFa+1MHAbaDeRJzXIYmgXJ94BN9y9MDrLxj9A4KqUgosMyI0GsLLQIJUp62Vc yXITqtfKG4w+hNBMjTXqid1fOOb0ED36WDAxAXGiAuxE0Qjick/wvqsGkuXIFHekTOfZfMouS 2GZryO+J7A4CJBgBmU0nMgkM5za9CGTqyjKxCZioFBHE+hHADUkONX0GxiGVIOSX+GBdj1k+2 LlA5PknQNb9QpJqMnVx2x4xwBtITp4rbWYjQ0qpbWCW0jUKr/lCMNrLgNwbh2bxCVwVQROeVt QHeHy0f6Ft4vX6pdx1CoiEBqrlXHbFV9BH+/vqNeXt0hmygwOIu4TPJPvOYi41/cOdOxqzoPn 5I7jHvkbNEHwG25MW8OWy17dGP4xRdYQeBYhpKmZluKDHzPeSW+gBdaHrJ1X+vz2dSRyZZrnI /UeOT7SLqgCTQDByWj9yHg0ZI5TAfIy5GjX0ATADAGE0gaiFFsUGeFfoglLSSup6idulA3JNb oRb4KVP8UJ2GS2mHtY7hbtXSCcVzAmdR06QUO2uKs0Dsz1ofbHnvEojWO3xLfF7oEhq0ccwi/ I6Xl++hhwJQqja+vtILRVaxqiFgIeh8uozSj8CwFW8LuQN129g1xEml2OSHJ618xVwOaz7qrp OXd47uRr0RwQA8CDuZsF7UsBUdrPWs3zCPBdCd8KN41m11zUEA= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:01:21 -0000 --=-X/W5AiaLh7yTP0csgaAl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I switched from Ubuntu-based Linux Mint to Debian Testing I was delighted to find that Evolution 3.22 was included, and since then it was updated to 3.24 and now 3.26. It was a bit of work to get everything installed on Debian that I was used to running on Mint, but I learned a lot in the process and now I have a very fast and stable system. On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 18:31 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 07:55 -0500, Len Philpot wrote: > > > the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some > > > autoconfiguration > > > > That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've > > seen, > > nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. > > Hi, > I guess it's not related to the migration process, thus kind of > off-topic for this thread. > > > Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've > > built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's > > dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step > > process > > :-) > > > > Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version? > > Right, these questions come semi-regularly on this list, mostly from > Ubuntu users, and the answer is mostly the same: ask Ubuntu > maintainers > and/or on Ubuntu forums (this applies generally for distro-specific > questions, not only for Ubuntu). There had been also answers about > some > gnome3-staging ppa or what it was, I do not recall, I do not use > Ubuntu. > > Feel free to read these two Wiki pages: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak > > The first describes why the dependency on evolution-data-server is > so > tricky that "getting new Evolution" means much more than "getting > only > new Evolution". The second makes things easier, but has its > downsides > too (also described there). > Bye, > Milan > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --=-X/W5AiaLh7yTP0csgaAl Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
When I switched from Ubuntu-based Linux Mint to Debian Testing I was delighted to find that Evolution 3.22 was included, and since then it was updated to 3.24 and now 3.26. It was a bit of work to get everything installed on Debian that I was used to running on Mint, but I learned a lot in the process and now I have a very fast and stable system.

On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 18:31 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 07:55 -0500, Len Philpot wrote:




the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some
autoconfiguration



That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've seen,
nothing newer. It's what I'm running now.



	Hi,
I guess it's not related to the migration process, thus kind of
off-topic for this thread.



Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've
built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's
dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step process
:-) 

Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version?



Right, these questions come semi-regularly on this list, mostly from
Ubuntu users, and the answer is mostly the same: ask Ubuntu maintainers
and/or on Ubuntu forums (this applies generally for distro-specific
questions, not only for Ubuntu). There had been also answers about some
gnome3-staging ppa or what it was, I do not recall, I do not use
Ubuntu.

Feel free to read these two Wiki pages:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak

The first describes why the dependency on evolution-data-server is so
tricky that "getting new Evolution" means much more than "getting only
new Evolution". The second makes things easier, but has its downsides
too (also described there).
	Bye,
	Milan
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To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
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There had been added some > > > autoconfiguration > > That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've seen, > > nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. >  Hi, > I guess it's not related to the migration process, thus kind of > off-topic for this thread. Thanks for the reply and sorry for the interruption. -- Len Philpotlphilpot01@gmail.comSent from Evolution on Xubuntu Linux From paul@mad-scientist.net Mon Sep 25 18:41:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B419A76235 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:41:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HOkGxhfvrfxm for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:41:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 7744 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:41:06 UTC Received: from outbound-ss-1827.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-1827.hostmonster.com [74.220.205.114]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA587622B for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cmgw4 (cmgw4.unifiedlayer.com [67.20.127.204]) by soproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEB1215C6D for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box5008.bluehost.com ([50.116.64.19]) by cmgw4 with id Ds9k1w00q0QvKlu01s9nha; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:09:48 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=OZLoNlbY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=gch/BGY/Gm5DEW28s2kmlQ==:117 a=gch/BGY/Gm5DEW28s2kmlQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=2JCJgTwv5E4A:10 a=danhDmx_AAAA:8 a=I64Ae15QeR1SADUBiq4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=P4VdviVPEcjfz_PVVggX:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mad-scientist.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:To:Reply-To:From:Subject:Message-ID: Sender:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hJ9vskhg0fOTHWIGC0JwAriMVsXCUR7PDvzcAE2CQlc=; b=KucjLHoOnP186hCOxuTUVV6IKz 0gE2m+4T/MUJTGHlETq/qfAfoDmD1+fnpcS0y8KatLPXUYkeeBy+0xPXZ7dCCEl4ul0brTiNnRiw/ RuHj8dqqH1c4IdJ2/xF+0ZqWN; Received: from [65.112.16.22] (port=36512 helo=pdsdesk) by box5008.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dwVx2-003nsk-1n; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:09:44 -0600 Message-ID: <1506355781.6352.8.camel@mad-scientist.net> From: Paul Smith Reply-To: paul@mad-scientist.net To: lphilpot01@gmail.com, evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:09:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> References: <1506203570.2389.0.camel@usb.ve> <1506324169.2276.17.camel@redhat.com> <1506344118.24192.0.camel@gmail.com> Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box5008.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnome.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mad-scientist.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 65.112.16.22 X-Exim-ID: 1dwVx2-003nsk-1n X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (pdsdesk) [65.112.16.22]:36512 X-Source-Auth: paul@mad-scientist.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bWFkc2NpZTE7bWFkc2NpZTE7Ym94NTAwOC5ibHVlaG9zdC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes Subject: Re: [Evolution] Automatization Outlook Users migrations to Evolution X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:41:46 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 07:55 -0500, Len Philpot wrote: > > the 3.18.5 is truly old. There had been added some > > autoconfiguration > > That's the version in the *buntu repositories, from what I've seen, > nothing newer. It's what I'm running now. Maybe you mentioned before what version of Ubuntu you're running, but I missed it. I'm using Ubuntu 17.04 and I have Evolution 3.22.6 installed, so it's not true that there's nothing new available in the Ubuntu repositories. Now, if you're using an older version of Ubuntu (for example Ubuntu 16.04 LTS), then you'll get the version of Evolution that was released in early 2016 (plus bug fixes). The entire point of an LTS release is that they don't install major updates--that's why people use it. > Is the only option for a newer version to build from source? I've > built more than a few packages over the years, but Evolution's > dependencies are fairly strong. Looks like a simple 47 step process > :-)  > > Is there a PPA somewhere of a more recent version? Evolution is part of the GNOME system; it's not very easy to upgrade Evolution without also upgrading the rest of GNOME. Usually Evolution is expected to work with the current and previous version of GNOME... but you're multiple versions of GNOME behind, so upgrading just Evolution and keeping the rest of GNOME at that older version will be problematic. You can look at the Gnome3 Staging PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging?field.series_filter=xenial It appears to have Evolution 3.20.5 installed, which is newer than what you have but still not all that new. I can't say how reliable that upgrade is. The best way to get a newer Evolution is to upgrade to a newer release of Ubuntu. From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Mon Sep 25 21:31:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193DF76BE3 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:31:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AyYcvOhwWGD1 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F66C76E89 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EDE1B7B9A for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:30:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506375043; bh=drXmelAh3hxIRa5yY5vIY60vJeltNqiyUgjsdB/xIjI=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=VygkQoWLO+8v1rb1B3QO5e3grkxKzuyTyMgqlN6Lom293mjevPNwWVJ9XhfbDQtn4 ZMrzt/pLP+7WwZ2gaMIP7CpaxwEEY6Nt4yS8TjD41xp1cVymVs4cBQyjHxCno0rEal GAecgsYOKy8ikwFv4yLeNBvI40H2E0HPliCXfNkHCCW/1pOcjn1O5P3IjAFe87g2KI 0jl3KAq0vc0FP9H1/EClRJ/Yy1RTBUZEtGGXiVwkdqNpSO11hUJl0FNU8iNDCB0pnf tqEKSc+/udBhs930k8rahADl7K8Yxl7KE4I0FG7Dp5x2QnJWgU5hszcc+3kXK66kk5 dJk9affkE4Utg== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id 1EC9A9DBD6; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:30:43 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:31:27 -0000   On Monday, September 25, 2017 3:41 AM, Milan Crha wrote:   > On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 17:36 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: >> Sent from evolution: >> Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] >> helo=myhost.mydomain.ext) >> >> Sent from thunderbird: >> Received: from [external IP] ([external IP:port] helo=[local IP]) > Hi, > what is better on local IP (which can be a public IP too), local IP is better. > than using > a local host name, which might not be accessible (resolved) from > the outside? Is there related any shame on the chosen computer name? > > I can understand the need to "stay anonymous" for spammers or the like, > but regular good citizens might not have a problem with this, maybe? I would like not to discuss anything other then technical details of bug topic which are clear and simple: "unwanted information disclosure". Simplest example is when a corporate user sends an email using public email server like yahoo/google/aol etc, their fully qualified host name may show up in helo part which is not always what they may want. > Looking around, the SMTP transport uses the name only if > g_resolver_lookup_by_address() returns anything for the address > returned by g_socket_connection_get_local_address(). > There is no option to skip this lookup. I strongly disagree with this statement because thunderbird does not do host name lookup and always uses IP address in helo part. According to gnome bugzilla there was a bug 702703 with exactly the same unwanted information disclosure complain and was fixed by you, Milan, four years ago. Regards, Josh. From mcrha@redhat.com Tue Sep 26 06:35:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B32A76233 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:35:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RB3uZ2K1kCsv for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18770761FF for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EC63883BF for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:34:36 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 6EC63883BF Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx02.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-89.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-89.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.89]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD10D614D0 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 08:31:24 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:35:09 -0000 On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 17:30 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > local IP is better. Hi, maybe. It still exposes some details about the network, like what internal IP range is in use. I just tried with a Google account and the first Received header contains "localhost.localdomain" with an IP of my ADSL router, not my local address, neither my computer name, thus the server can change the information too, possibly according to reverse DNS lookup. When you look at this message, then it also doesn't show my local address, neither the local computer name. > Simplest example is when a corporate user sends an email using public > email server like yahoo/google/aol etc, their fully qualified host > name may show up in helo part which is not always what they may want. Right, most people probably do not care, or do not know, but some people do care. That's okay. > > Looking around, the SMTP transport uses the name only if > > g_resolver_lookup_by_address() returns anything for the address > > returned by g_socket_connection_get_local_address(). > > There is no option to skip this lookup. > > I strongly disagree with this statement because thunderbird does not > do host name lookup and always uses IP address in helo part. I did not speak of Thunderbird, I said what Camel (part of evolution- data-server) does in the SMTP provider. > According to gnome bugzilla there was a bug 702703 with exactly the > same unwanted information disclosure complain and was fixed by you, > Milan, four years ago. That was for Message-ID header, not for Received header. As far as I can tell, that header can be influenced only with SMTP. I do not think there's anything when using sendmail or an Exchange connector (neither I tried NNTP). Just to make it clear, I didn't say it cannot be changed, I even gave pointers to involved functions in the SMTP Camel provider code, I only think it's not that important for others as it is for you. The bug 738247 has only the reporter, no duplicates, no CC'ed other than Andre, whom takes care of bug triage, thus he doesn't count (I'm sorry, Andre). Being there higher demand, it is fixed earlier probably, but you see it's almost 3 years old and nobody else had been interested to support the idea. In any case, feel free to propose a patch, that may speed things up and you get credits for the fix. It might be as simple as not resolve the local address. Then you can also try whether it'll make any difference for the findings from the very top of this email, because it's possible the change will not change anything (at least for some servers). Bye, Milan From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Tue Sep 26 13:54:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5C76E8D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:54:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wl3hHNDwVJn8 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69CFC76E9A for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14924B7A2C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:53:51 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506434031; bh=iFZLVm6z/1keifINgNkznspPZ+vEI3OCP7X6xEHXxYs=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=wRCGL0bRTkS4h0EeGaoXamNLpAemYzIiG+bh7T+UggMaV9qXBBzuWVfFmfxwu2YWK pKlaZwjg6iRal9dLLq1rGJSkGCGlAiDEbDN7hHKTR5h8Gh4LWYx3JcTkhgfqBs2BO8 DG/ZYCopdKsA8WEBwJaCdJaoc6OUTr5Ywasbkf6/CufPdZS72ZdtNcEmXbwFzb9WrC ACstOVCzmbaukaX6c69C+zGYb0OXKM1LNMOrsT/wrtxGyjPjG3wKLSYuI9cdLJkqGq JMnoBsru9wtoKdIPmmnn7Foy6PP6aPWnh0bfnWZV2aQd/ea2km9TBxmQ8pxWMrtRyb Zg1mzrepbH7TA== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id EFD079DBD6; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:53:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 09:53:50 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:54:35 -0000   On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 2:31 AM, Milan Crha wrote:   > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 17:30 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: >> local IP is better. > Hi, > maybe. It still exposes some details about the network, like what > internal IP range is in use. exposing internal range is much safer then real hostname, in my opinion.   > I just tried with a Google account and the first Received header > contains "localhost.localdomain" with an IP of my ADSL router, not my Correct, your workstation does not have host name setup and by default it sends "localhost.localdomain". Change host name to abc.example.org and you'll see it in recipient's headers. It means that if you send email to someone using your personal gmail AND property configured office workstation your email recipient will be able to tell where you work, this is just an example. Where is the function responsible for helo message? Regards, Josh. PS. The fact that pretty much nobody was ever interested in both unwanted information disclosure bugs just speaks for very little interest serious users have in evolution. I can only imagine what happens if someone decides to do a real audit... From mcrha@redhat.com Tue Sep 26 14:30:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DE376EBA for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YGdK-khNhiD9 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2284F76DED for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 737F12CE926 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:21 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 737F12CE926 Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx05.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-89.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-89.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.89]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5BD702C5 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:31:03 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.29]); Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:30:53 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 09:53 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > Where is the function responsible for helo message? Hi, it's here: https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c?h=gnome-3-24#n1388 > PS. The fact that pretty much nobody was ever interested in both > unwanted information disclosure bugs just speaks for very little > interest serious users have in evolution. I can only imagine what > happens if someone decides to do a real audit... That would be interesting to know (seriously, no sarcasm used). It might help the project, which is a gain. And when you consider also things like the Camel library can be used by other than just Evolution, then there would be good benefits. Bye, Milan From ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it Tue Sep 26 15:31:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC9276EAD for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:31:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vXD-u6CmypRR for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp204.alice.it (smtp204.alice.it [82.57.200.100]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DB6760AD for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ogio71.noip.me (151.9.228.66) by smtp204.alice.it (8.6.060.43) (authenticated as ambrogio.de.lorenzo@alice.it) id 59AECA680AC78AEA for evolution-list@gnome.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:31:16 +0200 Received: from ogio71.noip.me (ogio71.noip.me [127.0.0.1]) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id v8QFVFQK005693 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:31:15 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by ogio71.noip.me (8.15.2/8.14.4/Submit) id v8QFVFgF005692 for evolution-list@gnome.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1506439875.3410.9.camel@alice.it> From: Ambrogio De Lorenzo To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:31:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1506094876.6076.2.camel@usb.ve> References: <1505900163.3321.17.camel@alice.it> <1505907846.14876.14.camel@redhat.com> <1505911642.3321.49.camel@alice.it> <1505914478.3321.64.camel@alice.it> <1505977964.2277.7.camel@redhat.com> <1506094448.3697.26.camel@alice.it> <1506094876.6076.2.camel@usb.ve> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 (3.16.5-3.fc22) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Evolution] How Ctrl-Alt-J is working X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:31:50 -0000 Il giorno ven, 22/09/2017 alle 16.41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: > On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 17:34 +0200, Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > > I submitted 3 bugs on bugzilla, so they can managed separately. >=20 > Please post the bug numbers here in case anyone wants to add to them. 788048 Junk/filtering preferences change requires restart =20 788050 Manual check for Junk requires automatic junk filtering on 788051 Junk messages moved to a real folder are considered seen Unfortunately, bugs was fixed for very new version, not present in some distro. Bye Ambrogio >=20 > poc > _______________________________________________ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list >=20 From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Tue Sep 26 15:42:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FD376269 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:42:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2fmt1dOxoBCO for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B9F9761F0 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13ACD9772A for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:41:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506440510; bh=z1zaori3mDFJuw70rUxLrLuE+VxalYHdY60lRuptrPM=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=ximtq0gPNQW+rPBMjFTc/z6TcA4gS5lTaGKwjb3+ct55HaUwvqR5PHerfRcCVhDRy uJ9GxYeJgKNx1TlReLo54lq9qN4ieDz78y5JOJ2yttlNtPzYQvQ5ai38c+l6EmO2Tp PeRiv/mAw8ujwZNzzNxOVziXetfai9OgzbgiW4LCxs5fB4EzRc8kWE0HrmzMKQ8sot kyKgQuR113gcFkgYtVd2C8qwuoyhAB5ougnanx8YDmS2w0ScAm/o2LGr2RkqzSc/je pfKvNHsWKhOPPhabKCMOmKH1Q9bn/5pcTN0wFWGC3p1sVDiq0JvR+D8gxHZXVY5HfD i1GK3Jq4z4HUQ== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id EBD5A9DBD6; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:41:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:41:49 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:42:34 -0000 On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:31 AM, Milan Crha wrote:   > On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 09:53 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: >> Where is the function responsible for helo message? > Hi, > it's here: > https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c?h=gnome-3-24#n1388 A piece of cake. Set name to NULL instead of g_resolver_lookup_by_address and let https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c?h=gnome-3-24#n1401 fill in IP address. This will match thunderbird behavior. 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Ip=[204.128.141.23]; Helo=[owa.infinera.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR10MB0999 Subject: [Evolution] Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:37:51 -0000 For quite some time now I have experienced loss of email in evolution-ews e= very 2-3 days. This loss is per folder. It starts with E having problems marking mails as = read or deleting mail(they don't go away/sometimes just overstrucken). Then some new/all new= mails to that folder don't appear in E, I notice I have unread mail via other mail clients(Andro= id/webmail). Sometimes I can get back those mail by choosing Refresh on folder level but= mostly I need to restart E, then do a Refresh en each problematic folder to get my= mail back. It seems like E loses sync with the mail server and then cannot recover. Th= e mail sever is on the other side of the Atlantic with ping times 170-180 ms and quite busy= . Jocke= From ak-47@gmx.net Tue Sep 26 20:56:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6F7761F0 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:56:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id knyGmoKIWgcU for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E20A762E4 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([86.49.112.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWgND-1dq57m446N-00Xr2V for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:55:58 +0200 Message-ID: <1506459328.2786.2.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: "evolution-list@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1506438386.30808.31.camel@infinera.com> References: <1506438386.30808.31.camel@infinera.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:55:28 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:X0N+7a5tLB9Rx/zkgjATWg5eeRETBlsyOOEU27DEvnqPFnqpgs7 cr8Jyd7YDqEX0TVABwNxy+eilK+tdV9MtMuKzF22TKC7YMCDKN5w5kIQJpcQFEOGkXXO5Xk FmWjN/ym54XBW9pyr88qF3qjoA2mj9Moky5PHYqYHSkyM/HyZ7aYjv45d55rN3YdXAyIyyF TorRQthJjptyd6SOuO3Nw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:NXAnWhTdjZM=:c/1IOrsAXLW575fpxBT9JW mBV+RiqTvD/lRO3FaQ8Lv4L51K0Uggv3FTzpD4SWEfOBnKEE7kUE5gbBtHp3kd1Cb2wN1+3f5 eGjTQPZ0WHrtur/G6ugdCssJBHW5rDFqgUMetYD5FM5+pgpyqS8Dp56V3Cfjz1BoA+JWl/nVz JidkEFuudZG/iUgw8V8FxvI/KafEqFU1iTridp4K+dpBwwkrnSwKaA0GkpV6Y82ChIMxnsYrU NkqUy/M4JyWyfTXjnHIg3WP9Rmk3tRq7NG8e6NQQfwFsZxjP2IZcMqUWFGtn96DkmWWyM+zRb UIGhir5+uy2h54n1ZcfjOmLWBNGT6Sz5nUt4KGAYEIciP/dy7zl4w7BdoI8s14TX1pr5pEela JJdAMH4JGHfNsXKgs/0PMTszteA+KdvoBH9WMrQllGefzv40WtOMxSadDyF8MoHVqZP2AGxx7 tQ9TeT04CBfHdNgfzfKyDxsZqmxOS6C/EEfVLDR2VZ6iNgZj2RJ559GUKR8KN1DBGDJX3sIG5 WBIMfg+2EZDvFw+WsohcV6sOZLnAGL71zVNSVXVHu7g5EBVnEccKDp5petfh4K20Ogqo0B4PY KgdKSsz6EsUXVHs+4wTk5XrbJTg8+okqgjN2cgnpQhdjfJvj9xujcAhcwjk9EH6cKaY1aIK98 Ac/zQjazt2FtMDLCs7cGjqxJOarvMHioHsP0NkUMs0wQA4cpQwyo8SLXUhW3Pccrznij1sF5z mNa7lTUtd9nDIHQjIpXV/NqbD33qTNdII4SUh2cPfmXRppRctoTkTyxLs18n59GZySMcHHVYX Wao7irQwhjQTswpBXs8atTLZ7gAxNumwqV5m5ps7uci0wg+za0= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:56:33 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 15:06 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > For quite some time now I have experienced loss of email in evolution-ews every 2-3 days. > This loss is per folder. It starts with E having problems marking mails as read or deleting > mail(they don't go away/sometimes just overstrucken). Then some new/all new mails to that folder > don't appear in E, I notice I have unread mail via other mail clients(Android/webmail). > > Sometimes I can get back those mail by choosing Refresh on folder level but mostly > I need to restart E, then do a Refresh en each problematic folder to get my mail back. > > It seems like E loses sync with the mail server and then cannot recover. The mail sever is > on the other side of the Atlantic with ping times 170-180 ms and quite busy. Which evolution and evolution-ews versions is this about? https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging provides debug info. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From mcrha@redhat.com Wed Sep 27 06:18:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E53B761E0 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:18:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dIVdzutOfR1g for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4E38763D8 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3241A4E909 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:17:53 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 3241A4E909 Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx09.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-115.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-115.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.115]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3F17E641 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506492854.2315.2.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1506438386.30808.31.camel@infinera.com> References: <1506438386.30808.31.camel@infinera.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 08:14:14 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.38]); Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:18:25 -0000 On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 15:06 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > For quite some time now I have experienced loss of email in > evolution-ews every 2-3 days. Hi, as Andre said, it depends on your versions. Tell us which they are, please. Possibly related bug is: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786636 Bye, Milan From Joakim.Tjernlund@infinera.com Wed Sep 27 07:06:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277E97649D for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:06:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.792 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.792 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W47zlttSIyvg for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from NAM01-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2nam01on0062.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.34.62]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C2B6763D8 for ; 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Ip=[204.128.141.24]; Helo=[owa.infinera.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1PR10MB1006 Subject: Re: [Evolution] [EXTERNAL]Re: Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:06:00 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 08:14 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 15:06 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > For quite some time now I have experienced loss of email in > > evolution-ews every 2-3 days. >=20 > Hi, > as Andre said, it depends on your versions. Tell us which they are, > please. Fairly recent, 3.24.5 (evolution-data-server is 3.24.6) I think I first noticed this in June (with whatever version that was curren= t at the time) >=20 > Possibly related bug is: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D786636 >=20 Yes, this bug is very similar. I have noticed loss of mail in Sent Items to= o. Jocke= From mcrha@redhat.com Wed Sep 27 07:18:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E66764A1 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YT6GTwTEx-SP for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 293B37635B for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C97681DF7 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:10 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mx1.redhat.com 8C97681DF7 Authentication-Results: ext-mx01.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: ext-mx01.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=mcrha@redhat.com Received: from ovpn-204-115.brq.redhat.com (ovpn-204-115.brq.redhat.com [10.40.204.115]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CED7766D for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506496757.27508.6.camel@redhat.com> From: Milan Crha To: "evolution-list@gnome.org" In-Reply-To: <1506495056.30808.40.camel@infinera.com> References: <1506438386.30808.31.camel@infinera.com> <1506492854.2315.2.camel@redhat.com> <1506495056.30808.40.camel@infinera.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 09:19:17 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Evolution] [EXTERNAL]Re: Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:18:42 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 06:50 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > Possibly related bug is: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786636 > > Yes, this bug is very similar. I have noticed loss of mail in Sent > Items too. Hi, okay. Could you join the above bug, please? Eventually also follow this one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786208 which seems to have some clues, though I do not know why it happened. It did not happen on my machine yet, but my accounts are not that active. Ideally if you can compile yourself (I can provide test packages only for Fedora, I do not know/do not have access to other distributions), to be able to apply some test patches. I actively debug the issue with two of the reporters already. 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Ip=[204.128.141.24]; Helo=[owa.infinera.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN4PR10MB0994 Subject: Re: [Evolution] [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Intermittent loss of mail using evolution-ews X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 07:29:16 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 09:19 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 06:50 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > > Possibly related bug is: > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D786636 > >=20 > > Yes, this bug is very similar. I have noticed loss of mail in Sent > > Items too. >=20 > Hi, > okay. Could you join the above bug, please? Eventually also follow this > one: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D786208 > which seems to have some clues, though I do not know why it happened. > It did not happen on my machine yet, but my accounts are not that > active. Ideally if you can compile yourself (I can provide test Sure, I am on Gentoo so if you can send patches again 3.24.5 I can rebuild. I already removed this the EWS backoff: --- a/src/server/e-ews-connection.c.org 2017-09-20 17:28:03.674859259 +0200 +++ b/src/server/e-ews-connection.c 2017-09-20 17:29:28.024470809 +0200 @@ -853,7 +853,7 @@ =20 value =3D e_soap_parameter_get_property (param, "Name"); if (g_strcmp0 (value, "BackOffMilliseconds") =3D=3D 0) { - wait_ms =3D e_soap_parameter_get_int_value (param); + wait_ms =3D 0; /* e_soap_parameter_get_int_value (param); Disable ba= ckoff */ } } } and that might have made it a little better but didn't fix it. =20 Jocke From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Thu Sep 28 01:42:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD16764D8 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:42:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BsHRSB2EKlsR for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D5C2764C7 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB9CCB7A74 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 03:41:36 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506562897; bh=hSk1YA9PhlMEUnHJYmEbWmjW+lwKU9/Jk3Bl65lxMsY=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=CdkLpK3kr+alLqn/CB6aRvpKvuQ0CcI5ToZNitUqAyFS5iqOzEGKi6cEm8ey9q7+j ZGeAFDVb6C/nviv83N3taa3DfE79CbRD5M1BDv7oCurn8SI6k1BpNd9JteJNMkEvTc ueDukOiha2DmqWbwH8LRmgvf94ooGLjMiP+tEHpfR6ieMO6/KFgNiAETluxpVcC6bQ NGcRBKAsSUIpbulcg8zpgwqvWICh35ZG7BX9+d+gbg0towPhAuXB3mX/pQcrrluVhV akqcxUEUPhu/V2wVJ7Pv1sXQZqO1mb4WRw4gQRoobeEHrAGqaCWuwENDrui33RoN8D anYEMgijalhoA== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id D7AAB9DBD6; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 03:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:41:36 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:42:21 -0000 Here is the patch  diff -up evolution-data-server-3.24.6/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c.orig evolution-data-server-3.24.6/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c --- evolution-data-server-3.24.6/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c.orig 2017-09-27 19:06:32.769883845 -0400 +++ evolution-data-server-3.24.6/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c 2017-09-27 19:09:50.902330428 -0400 @@ -1385,14 +1385,6 @@ smtp_helo (CamelSmtpTransport *transport address = g_inet_socket_address_get_address ( G_INET_SOCKET_ADDRESS (transport->local_address)); - name = g_resolver_lookup_by_address ( - resolver, address, cancellable, &local_error); - - /* Sanity check. */ - g_return_val_if_fail ( - ((name != NULL) && (local_error == NULL)) || - ((name == NULL) && (local_error != NULL)), FALSE); - if (g_error_matches (local_error, G_IO_ERROR, G_IO_ERROR_CANCELLED)) return FALSE; Now behavior became exactly the same as in thunderbird. However I would prefer name variable to be assigned to return address domain name. No recipient needs to know neither sender's workstation IP address nor its real host name. Josh. On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:41 AM, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote:   > On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:31 AM, Milan Crha > wrote: >   >> On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 09:53 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: >>> Where is the function responsible for helo message? >> Hi, >> it's here: >> https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c?h=gnome-3-24#n1388 > A piece of cake. Set name to NULL instead of g_resolver_lookup_by_address > and let > https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/src/camel/providers/smtp/camel-smtp-transport.c?h=gnome-3-24#n1401 > fill in IP address. This will match thunderbird behavior. From pete@biggs.org.uk Thu Sep 28 07:14:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AB076553 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OgPzGJdgVtBH for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk (pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk [129.67.104.51]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DC7876538 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [129.67.104.52] (helo=snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk) by pigpen.chem.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dxT12-00018j-3H for evolution-list@gnome.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:13:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1506582838.27672.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> From: Pete Biggs To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:13:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-biggs-MailScanner-ID: 1dxT12-00018j-3H X-biggs-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-biggs-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-biggs-MailScanner-From: pete@biggs.org.uk Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:14:44 -0000 > > > No recipient needs to know neither sender's workstation IP address > nor its real host name. > I would disagree with that. The headers are mainly there for debugging and auditing not for "informing" the end recipient - putting bogus information in those headers just negates their primary purpose and makes life difficult for admins. For instance, I work in a large institution (no, it's not difficult to find out where) - if some MUA obfuscated the senders host, I would class that program as not fit for purpose - it's the sort of thing that spammers/phishers would do. In reality you could extend your ultra privacy arguments to say that the recipient doesn't need to see most of the headers, so why not strip everything except the basic From/To/Subject/Date from the email before it's delivered into the recipients mailbox? P. ps BTW, the senders IP address is usually inserted by the MTA, not the MUA in the headers. Good luck with getting that changed. From fmouse@fmp.com Thu Sep 28 14:58:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66CD76217 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yN56mU7bHMjJ for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:58:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 302 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at restaurant.gnome.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:58:04 UTC Received: from linode.fmp.com (linode.fmp.com [198.58.125.221]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AAB7764CF for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from indra.fmp.com (indra.fmp.com [2600:3c00:e001:5e06:222:4dff:fe48:668a]) (AUTH: CRAM-MD5 smtp@fmp.com, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3, 128bits, AES128-GCM-SHA256) by linode.fmp.com with ESMTPSA; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:52:59 -0500 id 00000000000259DB.0000000059CD0CCB.00006751 Message-ID: <1506610378.25303.20.camel@fmp.com> From: Lindsay Haisley Reply-To: fmouse@fmp.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:52:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> Organization: FMP Computer Services Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:58:34 -0000 On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 21:41 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > No recipient needs to know neither sender's workstation IP address > nor its real host name. Normally, headers don't contain the "sender's workstation IP address" unless the sender's MUA inserts it as a body header, and more often than not this IP address is an RFC-1918 (unroutable) address which is useless in identifying the sender. All headers in an email are technically part of the body of the email (sent after the "data" command in an SMTP dialog) and I have always been led to understand that it's not the proper job of a MUA to muck with these. RFC-2821 specifies that "When an SMTP server receives a message for delivery or further processing, it MUST insert trace ... information" (which includes "Received" headers) so information received by the MUA _should_ contain not the sender's workstation IP, but the IP of the SMTP server which handled the email for the sender. a MUA may hide trace information from the recipient to simplify mail reading, but it absolutely should not remove it, and in the case of mail stored on a server, received via IMAP, it's doubtful that such removal is even technically possible. Trace headers can be spoofed, of course, and as a rule in tracing email only the Received header inserted by the recipient's mail server can be fully trusted. Needless to say, spoofed trace headers are NOT RFC- compliant! -- Lindsay Haisley | "The only unchanging certainty FMP Computer Services | is the certainty of change" 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com | - Ancient wisdom, all cultures From d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com Fri Sep 29 21:06:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A512B76200 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:06:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.791 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jF0wkeGXKPOA for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com [37.153.204.247]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352A676BD7 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com [10.246.249.72]) by smx-7fb.smtp.startmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83F01B795B for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 23:06:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=startmail.com; s=dkim; t=1506719161; bh=wBaNOyWh/lId5ufv7jWkNrv+6JTmqSKygxcAxv95sFc=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:From; b=s7SrzeGNzgOlQbZc3cfZ+18sl2dWd9SB+AYOabUN0Kf6JZH6zyp4pYN9y2K8yj50z G9MrmvfWYiZu3MnLTFoRgyK5aS7gf++8Yp7aQ3Q/herzyEtIluYOh02X3AjYSFFX7m 2t8QDjEEBWtNDDlCShAFr2pCXtcVIlj5RVvZC6JYPfx0UxWF5VikGE9lnC+V/3GqOz mDUSsh2V7aU7OzIyNxPqD2KRnXLkHe9tQ9wB0M18GpNGoqnbxm7qfNfQzP+BftoFN6 kYmG216OLU8wy8r6+16hE+KhYBHdlRfO+Y/F3FaBWBzJjj5VuLscyP3eYWA1BvyAv1 H8p470/ZyPKbg== Received: by smx-2b5.int1.startmail.com (Postfix) id 6841B9DBD6; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 23:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48936dd8268bc8eae9a338b32996f608.startmail@www.startmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1506582838.27672.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> <1506582838.27672.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:06:01 -0400 From: d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org User-Agent: StartMail/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:06:45 -0000   On Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:13 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:   > ps BTW, the senders IP address is usually inserted by the MTA, not the > MUA in the headers. Good luck with getting that changed. Pete, You probably haven't read anything I've said before. IP address is inserted by thunderbird MUA by HELO=my_IP_address Hostname is inserted by evolution MUA by HELO=my_hostname I don't like both cases but hostname, unless it is a default "localhost.localdomain" is worse then IP address, that is why I proposed a patch. MTA will report EXTERNAL IP Address which is acceptable, since MTA behavior is well known. If someone wants to change it, they will use VPN. Josh. From ak-47@gmx.net Fri Sep 29 22:38:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66A761EC for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VrAn1zMfYLoV for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1917A761E3 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ac ([86.49.112.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJByE-1dvIlb3bMw-002p6d for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:38:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1506724696.30183.4.camel@gmx.net> From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <48936dd8268bc8eae9a338b32996f608.startmail@www.startmail.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> <1506582838.27672.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> <48936dd8268bc8eae9a338b32996f608.startmail@www.startmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:38:16 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:VumOSf+n8zPHoi09ykFHfuVrgWtVjiynVqqUCTHmMomlof5LEp2 zenRdqD1bvz6BMtivYHAcW7FjeCogoPDSprtD6iEkAyIdnZehenSnsW/3AmtFU27lm751Wa QqvjgvONONRMQ+04/QM3L3oAWiY7xaPSH/Sc5uFjvC4EwBDfDHEEyQXp68nzvSnHZGkwqJQ +aDIGsE26ejzdx9acHu8Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:dh4VxuMwSmA=:3BupxQhANfa9FHMS0qIOph jRj0tqTZz9AQ8ZjjC9QbOGT9O48s9r8vJgkGfzYU8zv09eK1F82BCMUCNM9jHtT94O5Znar+S onrsvnv8IK5pLP0sp0+w3yLt7hc1hyV36EHjx+Y40ltirBGr0pQdQzjks3odFktKlXMPrmKJG TWziIhZGNCn/4EcTAghGalOAipm1ZjNW76VOqdXbZo27h9JF5CVzSX2FR38Tqd0z1G94cqf9O 4Wyo31Z/SaOHDJyW5JhsMoMDIDrBhKQZ7KMIwXQ8yUkB99XQjHHZLmZmlQtgk6SQYIoRolvhj clAgbWuhDmbnrpudgPciBGrH4jL2prcwMSWTsFmYPisibQXbLX00rVVVELg0LkTYvl1dHWeBK aptQ6zOmZa4oQwFrhgwOUuUzBtXT8xE895art3+g405o8i9oahOcY/rdsd1K45rtByezMojPb CmFxBZu5S8fFYocfB5piKKNkxgmH6Kn7JErhYVoqIdQ9bTJm3AaNuo+EnMV4xE1g7gIwIDlfc FKznFKNDj60HBnAA0mYiu9uMMbT0BELu87ci3idmbwv/5HdBL38lhtGnW5DR5Vcr7W0nsUM3i W/rpkawBCaskWhg4Q+cd3JknTO2qEFO/YfGbPiLQ/os8kn9Srl1Prp89QFPm9saa4QkSyBtml M1mDurRpuzcPVGbIFm9Zp+w4aewl5L+HDhqefXrIFmnHDmH5ouLZ7KMXB45sSgaK4ST9e/jXP aOVbGpYaAIq89XpBkw8gu0E6Z/ybLKC6fkQAB2+Y9yXVs515WagQEuapKU3MUDdjGGf7wKeYK 0FzXTQwZZ8jmrvmvO1xKAHBuJxRgdsyxkpQrgjUS4rHcUWtPfU= Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:38:57 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-29 at 17:06 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > You probably haven't read anything I've said before. Hi Josh, please see https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct Thank you! :) andre -- Andre Klapper | ak-47@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ From berend.de.schouwer@gmail.com Sat Sep 30 15:39:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A25A76209 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:39:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.888 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (restaurant.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c7sREkgkgxUJ for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f66.google.com (mail-wm0-f66.google.com [74.125.82.66]) by smtp.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DDD876203 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f66.google.com with SMTP id u138so3867994wmu.5 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:39:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Br7Bt2TqGw7nXA0rEIDHEqNH0f750KouZJqZBttfY/E=; b=ipkS49nF8THaxxr8/x1++/H41ey63uP2eWkEZvmr7zgZ9gS+ybPBVLes2SkqGCCFup zy3ECeR8jX7XMBg/irWMez5BOtJjmDKyxqamBErlRPu3E3/a/bwwjAhQWOW+QpKLpDSb I45Ra9gCP9g3T3eZfCJi2U1PWN3radAio2z+2bm21Isw01oAsh068FnvaV1lf7mZtfxy cbK+u/aUsmX1ne5SSxbeuwMzH7q8liUUUlXaGTMqhS0FzTVuGxaYq8uoKZ1+fuylXwRg 75pYw4hS290pEpiJrCMvwtSJESm2FZ4XqO0S6jS1BQy3KURuGMmWmzaSb89t54y1xniz sf9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Br7Bt2TqGw7nXA0rEIDHEqNH0f750KouZJqZBttfY/E=; b=Jn5N8sb2cJ/VCIeiJWqsVnf8o6y3j4M58U0ZH82IWcrJP87EIcQa93AuNMAd6lG7Ux ZsEeNvyLt3tTg4kxbOZaGLuqWsDXoa7ToDF3nRScIyRa+Pt3qFSTVAtqGWT8vmnIgaxc upmdy6vLZz+wjw1zm9hIqpWjq12kpqjgNSRtWKub10GZ/Tqt/Wo8AgCAl2pCqNJdI0bc 4Ry5xfagL+CJoNTRGrp86zUePyePiwQrDIZdQoY8bMGtNtHFvY0I2tEDThnRXv2KR8Z6 1AcG/QrOdh8qaa7wVpfPtGCIgKlMx+jl9QkPaiRfjFEcQaoLokq+jYfbMg3xk78QljR3 HdpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhbVWU/PcJ9JyI/JDDNXv/pUs9N8dzCYX4JCIzHMj8D4zCnrfvh RQ9G2d1t7bULoIkZnZZrx1uChtQb X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDKlxlT2ajQfhfLcgNOk5iVdWCj7V0XXp9nON303YRKonG51QXjkYTwjAG4S9oOpeT8jLouLA== X-Received: by 10.28.36.212 with SMTP id k203mr5780226wmk.127.1506785459742; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sieve-deschouwer-co-za ([165.73.16.141]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l37sm5401262wrl.47.2017.09.30.08.30.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1506785455.12204.14.camel@gmail.com> From: Berend De Schouwer To: evolution-list@gnome.org Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:30:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <48936dd8268bc8eae9a338b32996f608.startmail@www.startmail.com> References: <1506325307.2276.27.camel@redhat.com> <1506407484.2265.23.camel@redhat.com> <9b3bc51941a81734fa092a9831544855.startmail@www.startmail.com> <1506436263.14881.4.camel@redhat.com> <1506582838.27672.13.camel@biggs.org.uk> <48936dd8268bc8eae9a338b32996f608.startmail@www.startmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Evolution] Bug 738247 - unwanted information disclosure in message headers X-BeenThere: evolution-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The Evolution personal information management application List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:39:34 -0000 On Fri, 2017-09-29 at 17:06 -0400, d18jf98rw@use.startmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:13 AM, Pete Biggs k> wrote: > > > > ps BTW, the senders IP address is usually inserted by the MTA, not > > the > > MUA in the headers. Good luck with getting that changed. > > Pete, > > You probably haven't read anything I've said before. > IP address is inserted by thunderbird MUA by HELO=my_IP_address > Hostname is inserted by evolution MUA by HELO=my_hostname It is *provided* by the MUA to the MTA. It is *inserted* in the Received header by the MTA. Nothing blocks the MTA from adding the MUA IP address *despite* the information provided in the HELO message. > I don't like both cases but hostname, unless it is a default > "localhost.localdomain" is worse then IP address, that is why I > proposed a patch. Some MTAs might decide that you're playing games when the HELO is wrong, and some might simply do a reverse DNS lookup or block your access. > MTA will report EXTERNAL IP Address which is acceptable, since MTA > behavior is well known. If someone wants to change it, they will use > VPN. Outgoing MTAs can be configured to strip internal Received headers completely at the border if you so choose. Speak to your mail administrator. PS. It sounds like you want anon.penet.fi to return.