From judicator3@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 06:59:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507347500A7 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:59:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, TW_BW=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 203 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.217.165] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H0hpbQr8zAIA for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gx0-f165.google.com (mail-gx0-f165.google.com [209.85.217.165]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC2A7500A3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:58:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so547252gxk.15 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:58:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fWe9bWBjtVy0TtGetNRo3EfPucseLGCr/OPDR7jnsbc=; b=UoIqxPuGlK4tf+HM9XIdjKZdC1BTdgiKjn6YWGvYL5DmSdIETIGFFqGHi1a2DZfQGE iZZ5OvngjTDNTM9Nkz+cMpK4TcDaUaJzWYYywe2+kWwQ+rTtnUM3nh1XqBM0Z0ZDIu3r mkmcSHTWNC4xQj48BiweHUjLqop4hdhmp2lwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nBFgi5p7LYsz8iuxVu/QYnyZBQER3dO/GT8GDCIjRcZ5b1IEUg34G/uHIwAOGLwdJq +DXkovsIz3aOrTvNc9NYZwuG7RXSQgGS5bpzgRn8hMT7K8jQtfTNipJ5SkPfl3WHgqMc FXVgQVzX/L/64ADI7A3VX6vyoCBdkdxz8L7gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.86.10 with SMTP id j10mr3556455agb.33.1243839521957; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:58:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Controlling the window manager From: Richard To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362835eadd2862046b43f45a X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:59:00 -0000 --0016362835eadd2862046b43f45a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I was reading the gnome docs at the URL: http://library.gnome.org/devel/platform-overview/stable/window-manager.html.en It was explaining how applications can use the libwnck library to control the window manager such as the placement of other windows. Does anyone know of any tutorial about using libwnck ? Or could someone suggest any example code or existing applications I could look at to get a feel of how to control the gnome window manager. Thanks Richard --0016362835eadd2862046b43f45a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello:

I was reading the gnome docs at the URL:

http://library.gnome.org/devel/platform-overview/stable/window-manager.h= tml.en

It was explaining how applications can use the libwnck library to contr= ol the window manager such as the placement of other windows. Does anyone k= now of any tutorial about using libwnck ? Or could someone suggest any exam= ple code or existing applications I could look at to get a feel of how to c= ontrol the gnome window manager.

Thanks
Richard




--0016362835eadd2862046b43f45a-- From ross@burtonini.com Mon Jun 1 07:07:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80937500E5 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BW=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 7346 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [67.19.73.58] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NaBu1UGDCUPP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pug.o-hand.com (3a.49.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.73.58]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515377500A3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackadder (home.burtonini.com [91.84.213.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pug.o-hand.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673BD12EC302; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:14:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackadder (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5B76430; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:07:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Controlling the window manager From: Ross Burton To: Richard In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+KSmAZpO5vaqZn0ZgAmX" Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:07:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1243840021.1603.79.camel@blackadder> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:07:26 -0000 --=-+KSmAZpO5vaqZn0ZgAmX Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 02:58 -0400, Richard wrote: > I was reading the gnome docs at the URL: >=20 > http://library.gnome.org/devel/platform-overview/stable/window-manager.ht= ml.en >=20 > It was explaining how applications can use the libwnck library to > control the window manager such as the placement of other windows. > Does anyone know of any tutorial about using libwnck ? Or could > someone suggest any example code or existing applications I could look > at to get a feel of how to control the gnome window manager.=20 Devilspie uses libwnck to control various window properties. http://git.gnome.org/cgit/devilspie Ross --=20 Ross Burton mail: ross@burtonini.com jabber: ross@burtonini.com www: http://burtonini.com --=-+KSmAZpO5vaqZn0ZgAmX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBKI34VLQnkR9C0M98RAg4jAJ9YWppRYyZmDaGx3loUZI4Ef8sF/QCfWBo+ qVLM9mJW+Y95vYX/58FTpCo= =6Njf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+KSmAZpO5vaqZn0ZgAmX-- From hughsient@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 11:29:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78907750069 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:29:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 8382 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.161] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f1u9MyCbRltr for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:29:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f161.google.com (mail-ew0-f161.google.com [209.85.219.161]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6958750008 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:29:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so7367825ewy.15 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:29:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qA8KwvLkIq/bWloTBjrji3HZEEARAfv4m5mVquGDmKg=; b=mxJa2NT58A2FM3rBVBmOIdou1CvT87Pk14ILZaEe/Tyc7rt8IbSlk6ADmi0eoO/aTs 00XnVbaMqjBFRJQbs64pRkkjoL8mbH1ts89quvzP55z3Y0vhXTSToNHkQZ0DqNANvIjd LoXbhp/kjrODZW7aNiptGf7AZKenbTzm/YDME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=BwOfkZr3F07GPNL649qEgTAVHFaQ8PpcS5Qtv8Z+BIK4EQ2cUpk41PbPBiggfksfNm 3yCYQkeFthDZPN7W6YS3CD6X9oPXg8P1IxJalLMwsA4h/trHClNOwsZd0rquNkiFEsXn N3LrF/iJqCiAj9KwP//ZvMiRE7Gh28Mu+HZCU= Received: by 10.216.10.74 with SMTP id 52mr1815640weu.226.1243855748097; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.65? (78-86-55-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk [78.86.55.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm12115282gve.16.2009.06.01.04.29.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DeviceKit-power external dep raised to 008 From: Richard Hughes To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:28:19 +0100 Message-Id: <1243855699.31669.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 (2.26.1-2.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:29:25 -0000 The DeviceKit-power external dep is now 008 for gnome-power-manager 2-27 for some critical fixes and the sane lid functionality. I'll update the wiki and jhbuild now. Thanks, Richard. From liberforce@freeside.fr Mon Jun 1 12:28:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3B3750083 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:28:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.31 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:43:1:60:M1380, S, T, N, W8:.:?:?] (NAT!) (up: 7744 hrs), (link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [93.17.128.10] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id joDn1utwMa77 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:28:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr (smtp22.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.10]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AE3750008 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:28:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EEDE07000097; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:28:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (102.1.72-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.72.1.102]) by msfrf2219.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA7CC700008E; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:28:00 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20090601122800829.CA7CC700008E@msfrf2219.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4A23C94B.6080304@freeside.fr> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:27:55 +0200 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090319) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hubert Figuiere Subject: Re: GNOME 3.0 - shell and applets References: <4A0CB032.4080302@freeside.fr> <1243602342.3739.41.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> <4A200E69.1060809@figuiere.net> In-Reply-To: <4A200E69.1060809@figuiere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:28:17 -0000 Hubert Figuiere a écrit : > Also the KDE people have developed a new spec for Status Icon that is > apparently more versatile, and would love to see it implemented in GNOME. Do you have some links for this new spec? Cheers, -- Luis From tiagomatos@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 13:13:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68586750069 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:13:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10673 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.158] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lww7HnOkD0BO for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:13:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D54B750008 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2888889fga.10 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6oT0MGEdPYJ8/q8K1fprdoEDbk/vkn/nJZzQ0HitYiQ=; b=gQ3TL0/u4zGDfb1rX2MATxzxnzsLa1H9N6ZbqMuLXqagzfKiHKX9HN3GCptPYo18GG 2na/tmoT7O16H0CjLyXPO/DwaEHDVz4uK47TiijtO/TPSReApVhRg/mcOhlEdL7YWm4C R9ctyJb8TZ7zcZxrmnfPVCYZqTe6zb503IzwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZaUUl13JtoEv6M2LFX99EarxycGAhXaFJHlwhxdOAXU4LB609L1rUmWdKehXCYA74o p9/7fyf8bM8NkhoUPvS4suR7/AOITuWtVBNF6V2GVRVc2OvnqRWYvk63NhYN79e7t4NO yHQw2em05d1COX8uhkbwywKPk21nzjuUt2UwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr6589458fga.30.1243861973534; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:12:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A23C94B.6080304@freeside.fr> References: <4A0CB032.4080302@freeside.fr> <1243602342.3739.41.camel@trinidad.mandrakesoft.com> <4A200E69.1060809@figuiere.net> <4A23C94B.6080304@freeside.fr> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rui_Tiago_Ca=C3=A7=C3=A3o_Matos?= Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:12:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME 3.0 - shell and applets To: Luis Menina Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:13:13 -0000 2009/6/1 Luis Menina : > Do you have some links for this new spec? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2009-April/010359.html Rui From elle.uca@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 18:14:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922DC750388 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:14:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 10583 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.159] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OLKu-lWoyfRz for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:14:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f159.google.com (mail-bw0-f159.google.com [209.85.218.159]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053557501A3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:13:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so7211341bwz.15 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:13:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F6P2etw3rGoHDKZJtgv6RIgWM8Ciscw0ST74/tZVSGo=; b=Dg9gqWjhQaSwb7OVmGRD7LDuhWctZ1LNpfsBqTRKffNGeovJ8Y6RCK1o74Vf9Y8rBX zz/w+xUQygc+nynslRC37GEP7zjasCPGq0b8ychQnmS59qTntG6IvqnJgVzxL9OpWORx Iqj3uF3AAqE+e10m5xEid57fYFjYEjj3qYVnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wyEbxGD9pH7Ubfe4GC0xIfSVh1EfR14VkRWn0KdhnDqBumh3I2mPyhIbxKF+67sSyr oKz/CzXosUKQVOg80vJ69q/YWXM7iCGhU/xtbxJBZI1qUJbq8+HDYJVettxnWWrYPTJ7 QHtifvn96hVuyjjKm0azvy4hqIgct7kEyvZ4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: elle.uca@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.118.69 with SMTP id u5mr5997686bkq.77.1243880033048; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:13:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:13:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f61e2cc04c3ed468 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: Luca Ferretti To: Emmanuele Bassi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:14:10 -0000 2009/5/31 Emmanuele Bassi : > On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 10:37 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: > >> I know this is temporary, that sooner or later distro will include >> needed stuff, but in next 6 months the only _stable_ distro >> "certified" to test all GNOME 2.27 features will be Fedora 11. > > I fail to see the point: if another distro really wants to be "bleeding > edge" enough to allow development on it then it should ship the bleeding > edge dependencies. it's always been as simple as that. > > we're not talking about GNOME components here: we're talking about > system level libraries; it happened with HAL, it happened with D-Bus, Great. this is exactly my point! Are system level libraries a kind of external deps that we could request to be "bleeding edge"? And please, don't assume I'm speaking for some distro, I'm speaking for GNOME community people, people that could like to run jhbuild on their fresh released and installed distro, whatever this is, in order to test, hack, check, improve, learn about the changes that will happen in next 6 months. Without breaking their base system, of course. Example: in previous (2.25) release cycle gnome-session and gnome-screensaver was updated to use a feature available only in unstable and not yet released Xorg 1.6 (or vice versa, I don't remember exactly). In order to have a working session via jhbuild, I was forced to produce a custom, patched version of Xorg server for my own. This approach, IMHO, reduces the validity and utility of "external deps" approach. Now, we have two conflicting options: 1 - declare "bleeding egde" system libs needed to have a better, great desktop experience: this means that people that want to test latest features will have to manually "fix" their base system if some stuff is not available in their distro ("do you want to test GNOME? well, change your base") 2 - don't put "bleeding edge" system libs in external deps until they are not released/adopted: I suppose you disagree this conservative approach, but GNOME vs distro IMHO is like egg vs chicken: who shoud follow who? I'm not proposing a solution. I don't know which option is better, I even don't know how to judge "better" here. But I feel we need some kind of policy to evaluate the inclusion or update of non-optional dependencies to "bleeding edge" for system libraries that you can't manage via jhbuild (or similar non-invasive approach) Cheers, Luca From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 18:31:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCE5750310 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:31:55 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 7359 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.29] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yydzI0qzx59m for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F076D7500EC for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:31:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so3653057ywj.63 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n1/P4+WERiptjTYfBvz4IkEZTdzTPBC6NEPcDY5LnSg=; b=nEjj4hFlRFOIDMS8D9DzpJ36rOUaSUG4WIcdjFuOexnufiNkm5qyZFTQv8nv/oHct+ WyyDBfrQ/Elzo6SNQAWcM7v+DJsow7OSbrSV2frnCSfFDqdLPKcP51IjO9PTJ/ktMsc/ WxMhcBbExmClBKmeIHY2o9GVaCBUbjJF+hb/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HMb/xcHrAkhEubFEUAmlWu3D3gy9OdkGqFPsw2ZwixJOCDQXyhRR3wqdSJ4CcUGrfV p/9KzJicosN0TWmZEtv5/tkBHzC+TZrR1MCXJQhjhknn7+JAlWQG4Z9oJM9OJsIpn5+V adK+7J2J54lnY7K4VhRPpnyk4RWC3ObYVig2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.69.8 with SMTP id w8mr12275324ybk.234.1243881099800; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: Matthias Clasen To: Luca Ferretti Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:31:55 -0000 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > I'm not proposing a solution. I don't know which option is better, I > even don't know how to judge "better" here. But I feel we need some > kind of policy to evaluate the inclusion or update of non-optional > dependencies to "bleeding edge" for system libraries that you can't > manage via jhbuild (or similar non-invasive approach) The irony here is that gvfs actually builds just fine without gdu (using the hal volume monitor instead). Just jhbuild is not very good at making the option available (since it won't even try to build gvfs if gnome-disk-utility failed to build, thanks to the dependencies that are encoded in the moduleset...) From bjourne@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 19:29:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832527500F5; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:29:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.291 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.291 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_DQ=0.077, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077, TW_MV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 10896 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.92.25] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yRVbf2Xfm1FZ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:29:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE3375009E; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:29:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so4322326qwh.9 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fZj2g98XPzdiGtHsUgXXMMLTTfOUsveLLH8A2nBLoQc=; b=eO9RVW/1wwCLGcpMbLY9L5RKoteC0ArZc89QMFtnGBSORb2UW3/7gcDbsLBJqKnawx lMWwdgYZYU5SghQ5hSHz/AHE0jqv9062yCaO6YEwxgXXWYHZWJ2We2p37U6IhMWqzRVd AMZrnxiKUZu/fUAS4wl3kHKSKdP30nRODLZ4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HdjvRmneco5ET3tPA9EyjZ6OAg0gAc/9khkm5hEEDYZNam6A9rjmyQyhQ10Q7GEgmt UTbz2KE1RPjzz8s40M5oDZBsFvtCtjD8p3gm0kNcWaqihUnb9wOw22rhhCat+aJhTOda e+8QXfJqiM6z+49w3aHLR8F+YHvCuFqds1iIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.74.85 with SMTP id t21mr4203176vcj.105.1243884554895; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:29:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:29:14 +0200 Message-ID: <740c3aec0906011229n383fa4ecj80e076266063943a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?BJ=F6rn_Lindqvist?= To: Matthias Clasen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: GNOME 2 release team , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:29:36 -0000 Den den 31 maj 2009 04:53 skrev Matthias Clasen = : > 2009/5/30 BJ=F6rn Lindqvist : >> Many of those >> packages are not packaged in Ubuntu Intrepid and at least and some of >> them haven't had any real releases yet. > > It builds fine in Fedora 11... Nice, but let's also get it to build fine in Ubuntu too. >> There are at least two build bugs related to gdu (583704, 582096). > > I'll see if I can get those fixed. Great! Although the bug about hardcoded /usr path seem to be by design which means that I won't be able to build it anyway. :( >> In short, IMHO it is premature to include gdu in jhbuild because the >> project is not batch buildable which is the point of jhbuild. >> >> I also hope that there will more documentation available about gdu >> before it becomes a blessed external dependency because there is very >> little of that available atm, especially why HAL is being replaced and >> what advantages that brings. > > Here are some relevant posts > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-May/011560.html > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-April/000140.html > http://blog.fubar.dk/?p=3D105 Thanks. > I don't think it makes much sense to split this library out at the > source level; distros might of course decide to ship it as a separate > gnome-disk-utility-libs package (as we do in Fedora). Unfortunately, not all distros are that wise. Other distros will decide not to split it or split it differently exacerbating the problem with figuring out missing dependencies (e.g. pkg-config complains about missing gnome-disk-utility-libs, what Debian package should you install?). --=20 mvh Bj=F6rn From bjourne@gmail.com Mon Jun 1 20:13:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C34B7500EC for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:13:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.368 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.368 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077, TW_MV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 7396 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.221.203] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PhnY+NiiRIfk for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-qy0-f203.google.com (mail-qy0-f203.google.com [209.85.221.203]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FA87500F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:13:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: by qyk41 with SMTP id 41so8293159qyk.13 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b9MZaE2mr8rW5OVySLmjFglCKyjWl5Jq4ZZdz8ZN/Is=; b=V1wcMfsVzi7mUP7vZjxDKEZEurGtiPNPQezxas/pP8WZG96KHwMx8jzyXUGGNKiuyw ZRoCgMZq8Hjavdmik3Be7H3+z1uTQYpsBizWEITs9J8VRr3mR1xw2sKhe4LznouX69de WDLsEiP84NRS9/KxytaX3N0x/t2E7aQzkZ+Zk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O3xIz1T1SBZPL4//c94j68RRWHFScRG6EpKtmmi7AV9m+i58Jktg+d/WPFzHUVTrun BlNUHxosVVTL1doXOkeUT5CB3PDWEjhvDYexzKCdFg4NltlDggl29INxFR9otJBEMHJI sjYNstBMIM8r3g4mtq39xSkkHHM7EeVgy3geE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.73.5 with SMTP id o5mr4393816vcj.112.1243887193886; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:13:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:13:13 +0200 Message-ID: <740c3aec0906011313t158b0892h367824d95f8fcbe4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?BJ=F6rn_Lindqvist?= To: Emmanuele Bassi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:13:29 -0000 2009/5/31 Emmanuele Bassi : > On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 10:37 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: > >> I know this is temporary, that sooner or later distro will include >> needed stuff, but in next 6 months the only _stable_ distro >> "certified" to test all GNOME 2.27 features will be Fedora 11. > > I fail to see the point: if another distro really wants to be "bleeding > edge" enough to allow development on it then it should ship the bleeding > edge dependencies. it's always been as simple as that. > > we're not talking about GNOME components here: we're talking about > system level libraries; it happened with HAL, it happened with D-Bus, it > happened with every low-level system component; JHBuild cannot always > build them because JHBuild is not a distribution tool or a deployment > tool[1]. > > so you should start packaging DeviceKit for Ubuntu, if you want your > distribution to be a development environment. Here is the point, as I see it. g-d-u is proposed for inclusion in 2.28. It has a hard dependency on DeviceKit-disks and a lot of smaller utility libraries. All those libraries must be used by a person running the next version of gnome if you want to use the g-d-u utilities. jhbuild is a tool that people use to QA the next release of gnome. Since it is hard to build g-d-u (and it's not just me, there are 3-4 dupes of #582096) and the libraries below it, that component won't receive a lot of testing. I'd love to try g-d-u and find some bugs, but I can't because someone has decided that building system libraries is to dangerous for me. Which means a high risk of a lot of serious bugs not being discovered before release. I think that is problematic because g-d-u and friends represent a huge amount of code, especially since those bugs may lead to data losses. It happened with HAL and it happened with D-Bus, those libs were tough to jhbuild and introduced regressions in the desktop. And it will happen with g-d-u too. The solution is to make g-d-u play nice with jhbuild, which technically isn't very hard. -- mvh Bj=F6rn From fpeters@entrouvert.com Mon Jun 1 20:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7379F7500FB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:29:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 639 hrs), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.154.92] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ql2hGEENbzcL for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:29:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lupin.entrouvert.com (lupin.entrouvert.com [212.85.154.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4647500F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:29:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 213.219.161.102.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net ([213.219.161.102] helo=trap) by lupin.entrouvert.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MBE7u-0002nU-VH for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:28:59 +0200 Received: from fred by trap with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MBE7e-0000D9-O0 for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:28:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:28:42 +0200 From: Frederic Peters To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20090601202842.GA599@entrouvert.com> References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux (squeeze/sid with kernel Linux 2.6.29) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.219.161.102 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fpeters@entrouvert.com Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:23:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on lupin.entrouvert.com) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:29:16 -0000 Matthias Clasen wrote: > Just jhbuild is not very good at making the option available (since it > won't even try to build gvfs if gnome-disk-utility failed to build, > thanks to the dependencies that are encoded in the moduleset...) That's actually not true as gnome-disk-utility is encoded as , not . Cheers, Frederic From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 1 20:39:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E477500F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:39:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.268 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.268 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TW_DQ=0.077, TW_GV=0.077, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 2867 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FuvB-AUXpJ-v for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:39:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8497500FB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:39:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.16.10.161] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AF760F853; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: David Zeuthen To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?BJ=F6rn?= Lindqvist In-Reply-To: <740c3aec0906011313t158b0892h367824d95f8fcbe4@mail.gmail.com> References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <1243776600.16849.6.camel@sprite.home.invalid> <740c3aec0906011313t158b0892h367824d95f8fcbe4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:36:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1243888591.14302.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 (2.26.1-2.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:39:16 -0000 On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 22:13 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > Here is the point, as I see it. g-d-u is proposed for inclusion in > 2.28. Please read http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-May/msg00016.html where I've already stated upfront that the deps for gnome-disk-utility is bleeding edge, why this is so and why that won't change. Also note that the proposal for inclusion of gnome-disk-utility in 2.28 is dependent on this not being a problem. If it's a problem, maybe we shouldn't consider gnome-disk-utility at all for 2.28 (I'm not in a hurry to finish it anyway; it will see API breakage for a while). If distros, such as Fedora, wants to use gnome-disk-utility they can just include it themselves. And jhbuild / more conservative distros can use the HAL GVfs backend, it works just fine. Of course there's a bunch of features / stuff you won't get but such is life if you are using a conservative distro. David From elle.uca@gmail.com Tue Jun 2 12:06:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B34D7500AF for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:06:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_SV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 10762 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.159] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zXNNEs5TmKC8 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:06:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f159.google.com (mail-bw0-f159.google.com [209.85.218.159]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC61D7500AE for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:06:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so7632115bwz.15 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:06:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+2op9n5Ht7oivlhM1miGpCQNjy8nlRAEo3at/yL2e6M=; b=EUx0NFtFS59cGGiq6nbjuO/HJTY0w5MY1BFVPKu5WGuOTai2nWvZQQl9tcaIom6dnG uGY52ulGsb+CJtQ97S8wXYBPQVL0R8psnkuzxtTxE41tZvF6D3vzMDupqJEqnVMVRTG/ 0eSPjhI/bsnrGqG2GJHbnLJZ2cWmJhS7/idYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vAQQE0WvosCYecRA06nVtj0uCHIemkKySvbV+tfbB8En+deBKATUTm4CHG5cVA+ZE/ Uz2s0HfZeKIfzp4mBImM5M9yk5OJSCU4S7EATfFROPxDTywGdFwqrUmmZ9+Bxdgtdhtu 6Z+lw38WpiqoVJApLq0ZgyW0vvycVxpoGb09g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: elle.uca@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.52.146 with SMTP id i18mr6747190bkg.82.1243944394100; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:06:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3e2743e564b85645 Message-ID: Subject: git/cgit and mime types From: Luca Ferretti To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:06:53 -0000 As some of you may know, jimmac has a page to track current status of variuos icone themes. Here: http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ Unfortunately, after the svn -> git migration, SVG files are no longer identified as images, but as text files. You can see this issue browsing the "High Contrast" theme in jimmac's page. Here is a way to "restore" the previous behavior? Cheers, Luca From pchenthill@novell.com Wed Jun 3 10:43:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF5C75007D; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:43:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.571 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=2.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Novell Netware 6 SP3, (distance 13, link: unknown-1390), [137.65.248.127] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fRmUQd4jae7W; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:43:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lucius.provo.novell.com (lucius.provo.novell.com [137.65.248.127]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F12750068; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from INET-PRV1-MTA by lucius.provo.novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:43:21 -0600 Message-Id: <4A25FF67020000DE00064147@lucius.provo.novell.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:43:19 -0600 From: "P Chenthill" To: Subject: Re: Request for upgrading the minimum sqlite version to the latest stable version 3.6.x Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: evolution-hackers@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:43:45 -0000 To be more specific 3.6.x =3D 3.6.14.2 (latest stable version) would be better unless there is a reason not to have it as a minimum version. Thanks, Chenthill. On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 15:27 +0530, Chenthill wrote: > Hi, > We (evolution team) would like to request upgrading the minimum > required version for sqlite to 3.6.x from 3.5.9 for the following > reasons, >=20 > 1) Api change in xCheckReservedLock method. (reference - > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D575084 ) > 2) Most of the distributions have sqlite 3.6 >=20 > Am adding ddl in CC to see if any other application has any issues with = the same. >=20 > Thanks, Chenthill. From pchen@gnome.org Wed Jun 3 10:03:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FFF750068; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:03:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 10767 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XQgDV1lcF9Ad; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:03:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E488075008E; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:03:04 -0600 Subject: Request for upgrading the minimum sqlite version to the latest stable version 3.6.x From: Chenthill To: release-team@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:27:42 +0530 Message-Id: <1244023062.6371.38.camel@linux-adcj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.27.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:32:32 +0000 Cc: "evolution-hackers@gnome.org" , "desktop-devel-list@gnome.org" X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:03:35 -0000 Hi, We (evolution team) would like to request upgrading the minimum required version for sqlite to 3.6.x from 3.5.9 for the following reasons, 1) Api change in xCheckReservedLock method. (reference - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575084 ) 2) Most of the distributions have sqlite 3.6 Am adding ddl in CC to see if any other application has any issues with the same. Thanks, Chenthill. From dgsiegel@gmail.com Wed Jun 3 13:17:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EFB7500C2; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:17:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 11013 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.159] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wo-nNIuLRz48; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:17:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f159.google.com (mail-bw0-f159.google.com [209.85.218.159]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E26750093; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:16:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so8186812bwz.15 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=jDOonxjOONjqfggefX4ggVgSlxMtnLq0gYIL1XhIcdg=; b=IJwJjcl7tU1Izo/Q2yxRptu2hzcXk6FGyrsqhquuR2+p2evl4HSCsQ8tsRkqDiUIRH 0hh+HIyKik+54alWVyYAo3HmXvuAQSSTjl1F7gvbNShtWyZuIsjPqualHmYQ4T1eAJkM ryV3B4Iholr5CDh9CgG5BDMPH8cLK4Ixkd1Bk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=v971JW9h1FSc0bWHyXWLJ42e99XoE3pPpX0kNQq2lGOglqd9Thp0g1SXO7Z4HhRR41 FBy7OvnwNN/u6RX0mvBc70YDw5tqd44gKuYbPxf58lc+Nj9YKIEGGoWIhPwIdtTYiFcB 0glk45dhkDSzzWf043uK0M8vRl8cRnkHvfc4Y= Received: by 10.103.108.18 with SMTP id k18mr613220mum.40.1244035016304; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? (e181067063.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.181.67.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u26sm394891mug.52.2009.06.03.06.16.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: List translators script From: "daniel g. siegel" To: Christian Rose In-Reply-To: <97da516f0905211205g45478f66l597ff3ef7789005c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1242678691.31729.84.camel@wendell-laptop> <1242680499.15338.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090520125954.GE10754@vuntz.net> <1242847742.14642.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <97da516f0905211205g45478f66l597ff3ef7789005c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-BTuwMJVS0zIdTgHrQ2fL" Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:15:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1244034925.7144.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Cc: Vincent Untz , GNOME Desktop Devel X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:17:17 -0000 --=-BTuwMJVS0zIdTgHrQ2fL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Do, 2009-05-21 at 21:05 +0200, Christian Rose wrote: > On 5/20/09, daniel g. siegel wrote: > > On Mi, 2009-05-20 at 14:59 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Le lundi 18 mai 2009, =C3=A0 23:01 +0200, daniel g. siegel a =C3=A9c= rit : > > > > i have also working list_translators.sh here, which i enhanced to = my > > > > needs. please find it attached. > > > > > > You're missing " -- $1" in diff_files. > > > > > > and youre right ;) > > > > fixed version is attached > > > > daniel >=20 > Could we have this in git or somewhere on live.gnome.org, say a > http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner/Scripts page? > These scripts seem very useful, however attachments sent to mailing > lists do not make good version control. You mean this page? http://live.gnome.org/DeveloperUtilities daniel >=20 >=20 > Christian --=20 this mail was sent using 100% recycled electrons =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D daniel g. siegel http://home.cs.tum.edu/~siegel gnupg key id: 0x6EEC9E62 fingerprint: DE5B 1F64 9034 1FB6 E120 DE10 268D AFD5 6EEC 9E62 encrypted email preferred --=-BTuwMJVS0zIdTgHrQ2fL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkomd2kACgkQJo2v1W7snmK2sQCghLTv4M/eLTWvE9a/NqbbHoIF KTAAn0yC1o13goechit5kaj2f2m810nu =M6G3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-BTuwMJVS0zIdTgHrQ2fL-- From dgsiegel@gmail.com Wed Jun 3 13:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7377500E4; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:18:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 11013 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.159] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w9ptsXrISOmx; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f159.google.com (mail-bw0-f159.google.com [209.85.218.159]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F6475000B; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so8187838bwz.15 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=61Xj4GMPW4WQQZON1NppMm9LqTOw1QjJLdYZyM16+pk=; b=jNOd+ee+xeB9u3r+sKp+WNOq7rUxat3EuSF8bPFRioPvnR/1RYLqM+b+uDmQv7b8Mz SChzlkJtv7pH9pvGJ9ExGGBb8tmdj/JkLNiQK9sn2RzcFxBBsqamuTt94P/AKENad+X/ CgIq2IKofZD7HImGDex5f0tGokoFJXCNXqe1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=j+MBAQpAgqrjEMy5k87PEjBPNLuLbS7+O5w5aS4qVWeg85baA6kXE486TzUt+aBdZk l0Dr9wCS85/8fwpWYdyIYjxpB3C3iUcuU/0qngQITu/rnvftG+kiLg5hRCglkKOnBZtz 8j4aqIPYAkAWZRE7V48zmnn1gkt5/s0093v/E= Received: by 10.103.217.5 with SMTP id u5mr609274muq.43.1244035109029; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? (e181067063.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.181.67.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y37sm906362mug.19.2009.06.03.06.18.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: List translators script From: "daniel g. siegel" To: Simos Xenitellis In-Reply-To: <598e9210905201315j5810e94cy38c4ce90e4cc35c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1242678691.31729.84.camel@wendell-laptop> <1242680499.15338.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090520125954.GE10754@vuntz.net> <1242847742.14642.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <598e9210905201315j5810e94cy38c4ce90e4cc35c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-imYX6NdWmU8pqBJVBpLy" Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:16:58 +0200 Message-Id: <1244035018.7144.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Cc: Vincent Untz , GNOME Desktop Devel X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:18:50 -0000 --=-imYX6NdWmU8pqBJVBpLy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mi, 2009-05-20 at 21:15 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: >=20 > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM, daniel g. siegel > wrote: > On Mi, 2009-05-20 at 14:59 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le lundi 18 mai 2009, =C3=A0 23:01 +0200, daniel g. siegel a > =C3=A9crit : > > > i have also working list_translators.sh here, which i > enhanced to my > > > needs. please find it attached. > > > > You're missing " -- $1" in diff_files. > =20 > =20 > and youre right ;) > =20 > fixed version is attached >=20 > A final touch is to change >=20 > function diff_files() { > git diff $TAG..HEAD --name-only -- $1 | grep "\.po$" > } >=20 > to=20 >=20 > diff_files() { > git diff $TAG..HEAD --name-only -- $1 | grep "\.po$" > } >=20 > The 'function' build-in is a bash-ism, which does not work with > 'dash', the default shell in Ubuntu (and probably elsewhere). > Bash is still OK when you don't specify the 'function' built-in. >=20 thanks a lot! daniel > Simos --=20 this mail was sent using 100% recycled electrons =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D daniel g. siegel http://home.cs.tum.edu/~siegel gnupg key id: 0x6EEC9E62 fingerprint: DE5B 1F64 9034 1FB6 E120 DE10 268D AFD5 6EEC 9E62 encrypted email preferred --=-imYX6NdWmU8pqBJVBpLy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkomd8YACgkQJo2v1W7snmKtTwCgneNY0iFR9FjfzNUWm4QHxJFV CHMAnR0mnAiGY4uwnDhol4cNoymBivtV =KfqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-imYX6NdWmU8pqBJVBpLy-- From javierjc1982@gmail.com Thu Jun 4 01:01:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6EB750122 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:01:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 7760 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y7hXxDVZWr+6 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:01:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635F7500EC for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so358320fxm.15 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ScxYNl8Xgk/y+WG3ymgyD92yyKNZkEK/K7fpwoyFHs=; b=CQf5I/cORjAAwATL4o8YUjzT4ar37R2XNUsJIKVofHla+8Y3haGavAsEy7cQnQqOYY YtpZV7HwAFUN6NfHF/hiG1QZJ11f33/F6gfaHw/7Tr4R6P02IJsfRidRIWGVPrag2QmS GjF1ZuF0SzjuKbwOI2u+9NyfT9KOLbRkrQTKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ctrwHz23+oqXTK0M1uDxhnm64bXm7zWtTjeK8/6+FALK8oV8QMmofSYWu5NGt+imKx CCfN7Rvg5pOuWQeItBq/UHqdhpx/e15bgM4dl1s400dzWTdhE96yFqKtS4fk6/ISpHHF LWBPcuJvAKeNSaE0Giqu/vuwkgd0hJgknFc90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.200 with SMTP id b8mr905961faq.84.1244077291276; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 03:01:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Nicer compilation output with shave or automake1.11 From: Javi To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:01:53 -0000 Hello all, This is my first post to the list, so hello everyone! There is a GnomeGoal [1] to turn the usual messy output of autotools into a pretty Kbuild-like one using shave [2]. As pointed in bug #580062 [3] , automake1.11 has a feature that do the same as shave do. Is only necessary to add one line in your configure.ac See the GnomeGoal page for more details. So I propose to use automake instead shave for this goal, but it'd be great hear your opinion. Also, if this list is not the correct place to do this, please tell me. Best regards [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/NicerBuilds [2] http://git.lespiau.name/cgit/shave/tree/README [3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D580062 --=20 Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From jjohnny@novell.com Thu Jun 4 03:26:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC537500DD; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 03:26:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.637 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.637 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.885, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 10811 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xP8DFGB91jr; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 03:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF3275006C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 03:25:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [164.99.200.227] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:25:30 -0600 Subject: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. From: Johnny Jacob To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-akKQdNEW2nCLQLRLikkW" Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:55:31 +0530 Message-Id: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.27.2 Cc: evolution-hackers@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: jjohnny@novell.com List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:26:00 -0000 --=-akKQdNEW2nCLQLRLikkW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Evolution-MAPI would like to use libmapi 0.8.2 instead of 0.8.0 [0] . 0.8.2 has lot of memory leak fixes [1] and would need Samba4 Alpha 7.=20 Patch for jhbuild is available [2]. Would like to know if there are any concerns? Thanks. [0] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies [1] http://www.openchange.org/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&i= d=3D129&Itemid=3D48 [2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2009-June/msg00001.html --=20 Johnny [johnnyjacob.wordpress.com | johnnyjacob.org] "May you share freely, never taking more than you give " --=-akKQdNEW2nCLQLRLikkW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkonPqsACgkQX9C3ygPc6EWkSgCfXEfx8XBYV9+pgVclapL+lUI1 +zQAniCvGPGJlsinbs3/OWn324+AHmup =ihsK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-akKQdNEW2nCLQLRLikkW-- From fpeters@entrouvert.com Thu Jun 4 08:02:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167017501B6 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:02:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_JH=0.077, TW_TD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 788 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.154.92] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yG2bLjhJiuuf for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:02:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lupin.entrouvert.com (lupin.entrouvert.com [212.85.154.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109027500F6 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:02:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 213.219.152.18.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net ([213.219.152.18] helo=trap) by lupin.entrouvert.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MC7ti-0008K2-IB for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:02:03 +0200 Received: from fred by trap with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MC7tP-0002qM-It for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:01:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:01:43 +0200 From: Frederic Peters To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> References: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux (squeeze/sid with kernel Linux 2.6.29) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.219.152.18 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fpeters@entrouvert.com Subject: Re: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:23:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on lupin.entrouvert.com) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:02:20 -0000 Johnny Jacob wrote: > Evolution-MAPI would like to use libmapi 0.8.2 instead of 0.8.0 [0] . > > 0.8.2 has lot of memory leak fixes [1] and would need Samba4 Alpha 7. > > Patch for jhbuild is available [2]. > > Would like to know if there are any concerns? I am fine with it, but you should fix your jhbuild patch (the version attributes need to be updated). Also did you check samba.configure-for-libs.patch still applies ? And is there a plan to make talloc, tdb and tevent into their own modules ? Cheers, Frederic From vuntz@gnome.org Thu Jun 4 15:11:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32975010F; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:11:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BW=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2170 hrs), (distance 22, link: ethernet/modem), [82.240.102.222] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N+nYkomABvAv; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:11:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.240.102.222]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60D37500CB; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:11:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B3C8E112707; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:11:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:11:11 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org Subject: gnome-{desktop,menus,panel,session}, libgweather and libwnck branched for 2.26 Message-ID: <20090604151111.GF10754@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org, release-team@gnome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:11:28 -0000 Hi all, I just branched gnome-{desktop,menus,panel,session}, libgweather and libwnck for 2.26, with the usual gnome-2-26 name. Note to translators: the gnome-panel branch doesn't contain the string freeze break. I also had to mark some strings as fuzzy to pass the post-commit check for po files. This has been done for: + gnome-panel: bn, ku (the strings don't exist anymore in the code, though) + libwnck: ne Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From manjunath.suman@gmail.com Thu Jun 4 16:29:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36621750127; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:29:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_TD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 11110 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.216.196] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCHeOd8WtbRT; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:28:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-px0-f196.google.com (mail-px0-f196.google.com [209.85.216.196]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758847500F7; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:28:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: by pxi34 with SMTP id 34so166364pxi.13 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hJUJIU7bgPFVKQtpTdp2woA7ah65zWPpV1HCR4y5xkY=; b=ptbBWN71V7GA6X9x4ka4xUvHv4GZUd2IeOpT6IZO9QA7veDH9rSECeYyMHUdL4yfhP 8nRF6d9viHLLr1ovl1tzZxey1H0p1jOx7iEL7u9o/nxRzOUpPsJKduFiHvgpxpOseoMZ KVsApGOySErYKWCKhTeGyQTDuvkUJqAq55/KU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VsGbJPM9CUUnzUQJixhtAss3yYOnoRQfykJu+tn2mzQxv3Zwv230w4UKQL3GAvggPe MrauhMX5k803MECwk06QqteKIohSWq7bIf9u4evCJHG9bK4gduaealtebAR1/bl6Yssn YmN5DZYgxwOcfwlbtelBaZpJw6ISTKu1PmGfk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.100.194 with SMTP id z2mr1764434vcn.38.1244132925150; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> References: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:58:45 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. From: Suman Manjunath To: Frederic Peters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:29:01 -0000 On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 13:31, Frederic Peters wrote: > And is there a plan to make talloc, tdb and tevent into their own > modules ? Yes. Although, there is no concrete timeline for releases of these individual modules. talloc, tdb, tevent and a bunch of other convenience libraries can already be built as standalone libraries from the samba4 git tree. -Suman From Ke.Wang@Sun.COM Fri Jun 5 04:05:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD220750006 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:05:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.19.6] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nY9UxQptsN0p for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sineb-mail-1.sun.com (sineb-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.19.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8BE750076 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:05:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-apac-06.sun.com (fe-apac-06.sun.com [192.18.19.177] (may be forged)) by sineb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5545Iji008945 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:05:18 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-apac.sun.com by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KKQ00L00Z1QRZ00@mail-apac.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:05:18 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [129.158.217.112] ([unknown] [129.158.217.112]) by mail-apac.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KKQ0052HZCTF060@mail-apac.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:05:17 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:05:00 +0800 From: Ke Wang Subject: ANNOUNCE: Java ATK Wrapper 0.27.1 Sender: Ke.Wang@Sun.COM To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Message-id: <4A28996C.6040801@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090420 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0b2 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:05:38 -0000 This is the initial release of Java ATK Wrapper. What's JAW? ======== Java ATK Wrapper is a implementation of ATK by using JNI technic. It converts Java Swing events into ATK events, and send these events to ATK-Bridge. JAW is part of the Bonobo deprecation project. It will replace the java-access-bridge after being fully tested. By talking to ATK-Bridge, it keeps itself from being affected by the change of underlying communication mechanism. Where? ===== The git repo is at: git clone git://git.gnome.org/java-atk-wrapper The tarballs are here: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/java-atk-wrapper/ Reporting bugs ========== URL: http://bugzilla.gnome.org Classification: Platform Application: at-spi Component: Java ATK Wrapper JAW has not been fully tested, so there must be many bugs. I didn't find a solution to auto-detect JAVA_HOME that works on all platforms, so, to build JAW, you should directly pass the JAVA_HOME variable. Hope this will be fixed in the next release. Any suggestions are welcome! You can either file bugs , or directly send me an email. Thanks! Ke From Matt.Keenan@Sun.COM Fri Jun 5 10:46:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157F67500B7 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:46:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.358 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.358 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=2.241, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 23, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.24] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xycKqZjm0HrU for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:45:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com [192.18.6.24]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865E07500B5 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:45:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n55AjaL5002032 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:45:41 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KKR00700FS61R00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:45:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.156.226.192] ([unknown] [129.156.226.192]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KKR002SXHVXND00@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:45:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:45:01 +0100 From: Matt Keenan Subject: Re: Nicer compilation output with shave or automake1.11 In-reply-to: Sender: Matt.Keenan@Sun.COM To: Javi Message-id: <4A28F72D.4010904@sun.com> References: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090505) Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:46:01 -0000 Does shave have specific libtool version dependency ? Reason I'm asking is that the default version shipped with OpenSolaris is 1.5.22 (I know quite old), and shave does not work out of the box, and will most likely have to be patched out by default... Matt Javi wrote: > Hello all, > > This is my first post to the list, so hello everyone! > > There is a GnomeGoal [1] to turn the usual messy output of autotools > into a pretty Kbuild-like one using shave [2]. > As pointed in bug #580062 [3] , automake1.11 has a feature that do the > same as shave do. Is only necessary to add one line in your > configure.ac > See the GnomeGoal page for more details. > > So I propose to use automake instead shave for this goal, but it'd be > great hear your opinion. > Also, if this list is not the correct place to do this, please tell me. > > Best regards > > [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/NicerBuilds > [2] http://git.lespiau.name/cgit/shave/tree/README > [3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580062 > From olafra@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 18:16:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3A97500B6; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:16:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_TM=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 8172 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yY0vWISbWpRv; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AE750078; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1551926fxm.15 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6EFL4od3bCfY1+aXrN2Y+/Bz5bjhMHTP7ETogvZEjkE=; b=HKUe5gZCw4zv9G2qbpH6mpV2GCMihurJ7ohEJ9NCkevmsIX7XrHVjz+X4R+8v9bWEt n4lfJMP/lESfXuOHiXAcdw2AoecmzGnXXBPPdS8kcHrvySyk1+sPQ4Qp6g2DD64TQUIo njuxC5YZ95hX12W8SqhdA9VWwkiTeGp01xJ9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MKDdYJBivGvc6N6z1VmNEtTraB17mJfN4YBcPntbeAlw38r/HlKfGYm8vOX/ZKG+bK aOYIeun4A8tuzcSXuJYxbjhyb2f0UcYrDETEFrtOSbbJH5PpMDTNrcYSTB4J42m5H7fH UZwKa3otoPmfCQ3iMEiK5O0A1ai4C6y/BAfAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.199 with SMTP id c7mr2226188fap.31.1244225762903; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91f686170904210625l15ace319r114ba091a66322b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090402111710.GV31369@vuntz.net> <49EB1A72.3080408@k-d-w.org> <1240147868.5864.26.camel@sprite.home.invalid> <1240196083.639.1015.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1240269012.15724.64.camel@dylan-laptop> <1240302011.3217.10.camel@milan> <49EDB79C.8060408@ubuntu.com> <91f686170904210625l15ace319r114ba091a66322b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:16:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Applets? [was Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0] From: Olafur Arason To: Martin Meyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:16:25 -0000 What I would die is two things that stem from the same concept: A low operation mode that would be sent through a term signal so that the application knows it only has to perform basic operations. Like Rhytmbox only playing music and giving status updates, basically suspending there graphical user interface. For most application this would result in the same reaction as with Ctrl-Z, even possible sending Suspend to application that don't support some dbus service. This would eliminate polling and lot's of other stuff that minimized application should not do. This could also be used for applets. This would happen when application are minimized. And a suspended to disk mode which would pack the memory data to disk to be restored the next time the users clicks on the icon. This would be menu option in the minimized application, "Put application to sleep". This is a killer feature for any user of firefox that has to do short memory intensive operations. I basically do killall firefox now. Regards, Olafur Arason On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Martin Meyer wrote: > I've found that I really like the plasmoid approach from KDE4. Most of > those things fit the description of "infrequently needed for short > periods of time", or "crack". From my point of view (a user), I mainly > want to be able to get to applets quickly. With the current small > format of applets on the panel, getting any significant amount of info > requires that I actually mouse-over or click many of them to see > what's going on. Since I'm already context-switching my mind from what > I was doing to whatever I'm about to do with the applet, I don't > particularly mind if my current application disappears temporarily > while I work with the "applet". With that in mind... > > What if we create a new class of window for applets with these characteri= stics: > - Does not appear in the Window list > - Does not appear in the alt-tab switcher > - No window borders (they will draw their own content somehow) > - The Window Manager will have a certain key event that will bring all > of these class of windows to the foreground until that button is > pressed again (or each applet could register its own) > - These windows (or maybe their children?) can be configured to be on > top of all windows permanently, maybe with a lowered opacity (so you > can always see f.e. your CPU usage on the system monitor applet) > - The windows can be positioned anywhere on the screen > - Ability to toggle temporary visibility in order to inform of events > (next song playing, network disconnected, etc.) (maybe a good way to > do notifications in the future?) > - Would be nice if each app could have a "collapsed" state to further > minimize screen usage (for people with smaller screens) > > The goals of this design would be: > - Quick access to any of these applications when you need them; > already running, just a keypress to activate them / bring to > foreground > - Can display more information because they have a larger display area > - Can be written into any applicable spec so other environments could > implement these > - No specific framework required to these applications, just create a > certain type of window > - No language constraints; anything that can make a graphical app can > make one of these > - Any app could have a "minimize as applet" state (media players would > like this) which shows just the basic info about them in a small > footprint > > I personally think that the current state of applets is a little > limiting. I like the panel well enough, but I feel like applets could > be displaying more information about their state if they just had a > little more screen real estate to play with. Since many people have > very large screens now, why not work on letting the applets take up > more of it? > > - Martin > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort > wrote: >> Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >>> While I agree your proposal would be a great enhancement for most >>> applications that abuse of the notification area (e.g. music players), = I >>> don't think that could =A0fully replace applets. Applets like timerappl= et >>> or sticky notes are different from standard applications in the sense >>> that you don't work with them as a full task, but only keep them in the >>> background to be easily accessible, while you actually use them for a >>> very short period. >>> >>> The point with them is that the ratio (time running)/(time use) is very >>> low compared with e.g. a text processor. Thus, you need them not to tak= e >>> too much space on the screen, not even, as you suggested, stacked in a >>> corner by the window manager. I'd argue that the best place to put them >>> is on a separate layer =E0 la dashboard (Apple), or directly on the >>> desktop. This layer could be accessed with a button in the top panel, >>> somewhere or in the overlay. Many "widgets" of this kind exist, see >>> Screenlets, Superkaramba, or Google gadgets, or Plasmoids. A simple way >>> of reintroducing applets in a "correct" way would be to support e.g. >>> Screenlets in an overlay: replacements for Tomboy already exist in that >>> framework, which is AFAIK compatible with other widget formats. >>> >>> At least, that's really how I consider we could get rid of the clutter >>> on the main screen, which is distracting us with icons we don't need to >>> be always visible. >> >> I like the proposed solution that the panel launchers would somehow beco= me a dock. >> >> e.g. for Tomboy or Hamster Applet, you have the icon launcher. If you cl= ick on >> it, the app is opened. If you click on it again, it's closed. That could= be >> achieved with single-instance applications (libunique), for example (whe= n you >> try to launch it again, the instance is closed). For many cases, I can i= magine >> such a workflow would be fine. It wouldn't solve all of them though, for= example >> you don't want system-monitor to be a launcher, but rather to see the sy= stem >> activity IRL. >> >> Another benefit of this is that a) your applet doesn't need to be starte= d up on >> login, and b) you don't have it running everytime. Of course, you need i= t to be >> quick to start up. But if it doesn't for such small applications, it's a= big >> fail IMHO. >> >> Best regards, >> Emilio >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> desktop-devel-list mailing list >> desktop-devel-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list >> > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list From javierjc1982@gmail.com Sat Jun 6 13:29:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A50F7500FD for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:29:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 11736 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xd4IbysllMBV for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:29:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f207.google.com (mail-bw0-f207.google.com [209.85.218.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3109D75010B for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1843582bwz.15 for ; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UCsLtqaYu9tPEgum0ToMzLl0MsiPV0sfhr3b/uKxvlE=; b=LzLq96uN0ULvuVvUHzSCk6tpbNSykbaWfOOnynDABtyMLDTHgBRUC+MHU4XXqSgcU+ nNQ2T21nWffEIYVhFLn+AyanSaXVJvnizdfKQLIlB/0UtgXGKRiFmBioM8FjZyrrtpql YQ/10YwTtTSUTVcY/GZD/hOjpSR37Tw9n6Okg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=p5e2Vld5kqy/X4X6ONhmLf51Rc/XfI0D1OFG/64jPkAkU3DJ9NVv/M2/h5Eakj8HqF uYXNTIGTKOMz76NkFAdxeWZgNGTgJyJQBgcmaOG0wabSCJUlJQ3qnbeGtJrEvu91+kxY SkMS4qeuZXhvBcsP9hEcYa9Asor+Dxnv5DAMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.198 with SMTP id k6mr2581421fap.46.1244294934329; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:28:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: New GnomeGoal: use GSEAL macro From: Javi To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:29:13 -0000 Hello all, I'd like to propose a new GnomeGoal and it'd be great hear your opinion. The objective of the goal is use the GSEAL macro to detect all uses of direct access to the object fields and replace them with a call to an accessor function instead. See the GnomeGoal page for more details.[2] Also, if this list is not the correct place to do this, please tell me. Best regards, [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/ [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UseGseal --=20 Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From ak-47@gmx.net Sun Jun 7 22:34:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BE37500CE for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:34:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.18 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.18 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:45:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W8:.:?:?] (up: 4472 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxCEcpfOuO6a for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59E8A7501CD for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Jun 2009 22:34:27 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.8]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 08 Jun 2009 00:34:27 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/JN8ZGLi3Jj/cKEAL3rGZyjBjR+aLq89TojIwQZI Dx5sZlQOQ6M1gC Subject: Re: New GnomeGoal: use GSEAL macro From: Andre Klapper To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:34:26 +0200 Message-Id: <1244414066.23958.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:34:47 -0000 Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Javi: > I'd like to propose a new GnomeGoal and it'd be > great hear your opinion. > > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UseGseal I'm all for it - it's needed for GNOME 3 anyway and it's time to make maintainers aware of it. andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From frank@openDesktop.org Mon Jun 8 08:44:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F16750184 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:44:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 2584 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [80.190.241.68] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id et-sw2hXurhe for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:44:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s2.hive01.com (s2.hive01.com [80.190.241.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288D075006E for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:44:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p4fd23f8c.dip.t-dialin.net ([79.210.63.140] helo=[192.168.2.117]) by s2.hive01.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MDbez-0005z0-Lm; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:01:00 +0200 Message-Id: From: Frank Karlitschek To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Cooperation on the Social Desktop Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:43:32 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:44:28 -0000 Hi everyone, first of all, let me explain you who I am. My name is Frank Karlitschek I'm the founder and maintainer of openDesktop.org network. As some of =20= you may know which contains GNOME-Look.org, GTK-Apps.org, KDE-=20 Look.org, KDE-Apps.org and many similar sites with over 130.000 =20 registered Linux users. More information can be obtained on openDesktop.org. I=B4m also the creator of the Social Desktop idea which will be =20 implemented in KDE in the future. The idea of the Social Desktop and =20 the Open Collaboration Services is to have a cross desktop standard =20 for all Linux Desktops. I read the interview with Luis Villa on LWN.net about GNOME and its =20 foundation. He mentioned there the Social Desktop idea of the KDE =20 project. So I as a main creator of this idea sent him an email in =20 which I wanted to explain the whole story an asked if the GNOME =20 project is interested in working together with us. He seemed =20 interested but unfortunately he isn't developing inside the GNOME =20 project anymore. Advised by him, I would like to present you the =20 vision of the (cross desktop) Social Desktop to spread our idea and =20 vision and to collaborate between both big desktop environments. Actually the Social Desktop was from the beginning on a cross desktop =20= idea for open source desktops. I think it is important that the open =20 source desktops have several unique features to be more attractive for =20= interested new user or Windows and Mac switchers. This is one of the =20 most promising way to gain new fans, potential developers and even =20 customers. It's one on the few ways I see to gain more market share in =20= the world. Furthermore social interaction between people becomes more important =20 than ever. Communicating over the Internet via mails, forums and =20 internet platforms is just normal. Just think of the web 2.0 and =20 facebook etc. The concept behind the Social Desktop now is to bring the power of =20 online communities and group collaboration to desktop applications and =20= the desktop shell itself. One of the strongest assets of the free =20 software community is its worldwide community of contributors and =20 users who belief in free software and who work hard to bring the =20 software and solutions to the mainstream. A core idea of the Social Desktop is connecting to your peers in the =20 community, making sharing and exchanging knowledge easier to integrate =20= into applications and the desktop itself. One of the ideas is e. g. to =20= place a widget on the desktop where users can find other GNOME and/or =20= KDE users in the same city or region, making it possible to connect to =20= these people, to contact them and to collaborate. After the first installation of a Linux distribution users normally =20 have questions. At the moment a lot of the support for them is =20 provided through forums and mailing lists. Users have to start up a =20 browser and search for answers for their questions or problems. The =20 community is relatively loosely connected, it is spread all over the =20 web, and it is often hard to verify the usefulness and accuracy of the =20= information found somewhere out on the web. Although is works =20 relatively well for experienced users, beginners often get lost. Showing a user near you with a picture of him, a face to remember =20 could be very helpful for them. Access to a lot of user-generated =20 information offers a great way to provide online community support. =20 This user-generated content comes from different sources. At the =20 moment openDesktop.org, GNOME-Look.org and other sites implements the =20= spec but we are working with other projects to have other data sources =20= in the future, so people can help each other via the web, and =20 application developers transparently integrate this knowledge into =20 applications and the desktop. An event system is also going to be part of the Social Desktop. Every =20= user is free to register new events e.g. a Linux conference in London, =20= a developer meeting in Berlin or just a little barbecue in a backyard. =20= This event will be listed in the events database and other users can =20 "join" the event. New participants can be invited to take part in =20 events, friends get automatically informed via the friend newsfeed =20 that some of their friends go to an event. The date, a short =20 description and a location is enough to start a new event. Locations =20 get directly displayed via an OpenStreetMap applet provided by the =20 free wiki world map on each event page. Many of this planed features are already visibly and usable via our =20 site openDesktop.org but many of them could be hooked in the desktop =20 via application integration or applets. We invite people to work with us on the community integration of the =20 Social Desktop. There are many ideas... The backend of the Social Desktop is designed to be platform =20 independent. Its features are based on the OCS API, Online =20 Collaboration Services API. The OCS API was developed by me. The API spec is published on freedesktop.org so third party provider =20 are able to implement OCS API which is very welcomed. So the KDE Forum =20= already announced that they are going to integrated OCS. What do you think? It would be great if KDE and GNOME could work together at this topic =20 which has a huge potential in the future. I'm looking forward to your reply. Cheers Frank -- Frank Karlitschek frank@openDesktop.org From jean.brefort@normalesup.org Mon Jun 8 15:55:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDADE7500B4 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:55:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.202 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.397, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 691 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [212.27.42.6] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jOwK4VxqxOKz for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:54:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322B575013F for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:54:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9824AE08202; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.215.241]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87603E0814E; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:54:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: New GnomeGoal: use GSEAL macro From: Jean =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Br=E9fort?= To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1244414066.23958.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1244414066.23958.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:50:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1244476237.4093.1.camel@athlon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:55:01 -0000 I don't think it is a so good idea as long as many accessors are still missing. GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED and friends do not work anymore (at least with gtk+-2.16.x). Regards, Jean Le lundi 08 juin 2009 à 00:34 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Javi: > > I'd like to propose a new GnomeGoal and it'd be > > great hear your opinion. > > > > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UseGseal > > I'm all for it - it's needed for GNOME 3 anyway and it's time to make > maintainers aware of it. > > andre From javierjc1982@gmail.com Mon Jun 8 19:15:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E908750004 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:15:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 8902 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XvCIPp7w576t for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:15:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C373D7500AF for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:14:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so2926540fxm.15 for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:14:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u31egOr0z19VGBEgcR8cP47cuxXUIAGjKplHTdILXqI=; b=Vte923RQDSsAFO7JnNk6Lq/nUFn4zr71awwg0RB1K2/hkQNxN4wNU2fRvlTHpqxp68 WV3i9tneFFj9Z0iejbpCE5HBLeZWb3e1NNJlbOQxNy/1liE7+csYvN5sm6rpw7EKQzlu 7QahuQtljBtyzuX9p8eDwLrOVLjB/7K6BeN4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N1/Yp/mHRhlM+GVwsWYyZ+fOq0/Nj9YrcOJsBKnJCURYJY7wVRtobSuX0lsMMJbSG9 RmkhD0SxWBi4V2x+/Bh/Tspivv/GrSW18NNEuVPU3MT3ziJCApHuoXlDErX5MfiJ0D2x ztpZqunzKb58XcjCeKPCfuQmLl+J6MIas1W3Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.66 with SMTP id b2mr4702736fas.18.1244488496812; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:14:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1244476237.4093.1.camel@athlon> References: <1244414066.23958.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1244476237.4093.1.camel@athlon> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:14:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New GnomeGoal: use GSEAL macro From: Javi To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jean_Br=C3=A9fort?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:15:16 -0000 > Le lundi 08 juin 2009 =C3=A0 00:34 +0200, Andre Klapper a =C3=A9crit : >> Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 15:28 +0200 schrieb Javi: >> > I'd like to propose a new GnomeGoal and it'd be >> > great hear your opinion. >> > >> > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UseGseal >> >> I'm all for it - it's needed for GNOME 3 anyway and it's time to make >> maintainers aware of it. >> 2009/6/8 Jean Br=C3=A9fort : > I don't think it is a so good idea as long as many accessors are still > missing. GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED and friends do not work anymore (at least > with gtk+-2.16.x). > You are rigth. But I think we still can send patches and fill bug reports and make them depend on bug #562937 [1] or bug #69872 [2], for example. Also, as pointed in this thread [3], It'd be great to use GSEAL_NO_ERRORS macro to get warnings instead errors when compile the modules, but currently doesn't work. :( See the GnomeGoal page for more info [4] ;) Best regards [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D562937 [2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D69872 [3] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2009-April/msg00115.html [4] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UseGseal --=20 Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From gns@gnome.org Tue Jun 9 13:02:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE47750112 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:02:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.645 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.645 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, TW_DQ=0.077, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:49:1:60:S,T,M1460,N,W6:.:?:?] (up: 190 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [94.76.200.128] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NW5a8rFQTFX5 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:02:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kov.eti.br (kov.eti.br [94.76.200.128]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CD875008E for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:02:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [189.25.60.76] (helo=abacate.horta) by kov.eti.br with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ME0yP-0008HM-9i for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:02:42 -0300 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=kov) by abacate.horta with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ME0xS-0006rr-3h for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:01:42 -0300 Subject: Re: new dependencies in gvfs From: Gustavo Noronha To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <740c3aec0906011229n383fa4ecj80e076266063943a@mail.gmail.com> References: <740c3aec0905301512ybf1419bw21e5b4d4cdc45002@mail.gmail.com> <740c3aec0906011229n383fa4ecj80e076266063943a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: GNOME Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:01:41 -0300 Message-Id: <1244552501.23399.2.camel@abacate.horta> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam_bar: --- X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:02:59 -0000 On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:29 +0200, BJ=C3=B6rn Lindqvist wrote: > Unfortunately, not all distros are that wise. Other distros will > decide not to split it or split it differently exacerbating the problem > with figuring out missing dependencies (e.g. pkg-config complains > about missing gnome-disk-utility-libs, what Debian package should you > install?). This has never been a big problem before. You use auto-apt, apt-file, or go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for gnome-disk-utility-libs.pc. As a package maintainer, I'm good with this not being split at the source level. It's just business as usual. See you, --=20 Gustavo Noronha GNOME contributor From dobey@wayofthemonkey.com Thu Jun 4 19:09:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14327500CB for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:09:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [68.230.240.8] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ej6XhJiCB6au for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:09:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0596475018F for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:09:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090604190941.HLNG14603.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:09:41 -0400 Received: from foomin.wayofthemonkey.com ([68.10.5.12]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id zv9g1b0070FZboL02v9gQi; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:09:40 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=danhDmx_AAAA:8 a=f_UfrzrUAAAA:8 a=dzQeES_8uRIDf2OTyM0A:9 a=MQGGwcfetXsbLc8I3fAA:7 a=xMa7J79UaD4WDBj4QGQJEpHctt0A:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from lunatari.nn.wayofthemonkey.com ([10.0.0.100]) by foomin.wayofthemonkey.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MCIJn-0005mn-TA for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:09:39 -0400 Subject: External dependency: icontool From: Rodney Dawes To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:11:10 -0400 Message-Id: <1244142670.22039.10.camel@lunatari> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: dobey@foomin.wayofthemonkey.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:55:17 +0000 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:10:00 -0000 Hi, Currently, we are using icon-naming-utils in gnome-icon-theme to create the backwards-compatible symlinks for icons. However, I've created the icontool [1] project to subsume this task, as well as provide useful tools for managing other aspects of themes and icons in applications. As part of that, there is also now the icontool-render script, which takes a single-canvas SVG [2], and generates individual PNG images of the icons contained within it. This single-canvas workflow makes it much easier to maintain icons in themes and different projects. As such, I would like to have icontool be a blessed external dependency in GNOME 2.27+, so that we can switch to using it in gnome-icon-theme, for maintaining the compatibility symlinks, and rendering icons from the single canvas SVGs, which we intend to migrate to in the relatively near future, for all the icons in gnome-icon-theme. Thanks! -- Rodney [1] http://launchpad.net/icontool [2] http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git3 From fpeters@entrouvert.com Wed Jun 10 21:17:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA2A75006B for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:17:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 1181 hrs), (distance 25, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.154.92] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g-WTArOq2G74 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:17:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lupin.entrouvert.com (lupin.entrouvert.com [212.85.154.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B197501D9 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:17:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 213.219.141.147.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net ([213.219.141.147] helo=trap) by lupin.entrouvert.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MEVAP-00047r-1t for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:17:05 +0200 Received: from fred by trap with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MEVA0-0003xu-VM for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:16:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:16:40 +0200 From: Frederic Peters To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20090610211640.GA14745@entrouvert.com> References: <1244142670.22039.10.camel@lunatari> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1244142670.22039.10.camel@lunatari> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux (squeeze/sid with kernel Linux 2.6.30) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.219.141.147 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fpeters@entrouvert.com Subject: Re: External dependency: icontool X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:23:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on lupin.entrouvert.com) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:17:24 -0000 Rodney Dawes wrote: > Currently, we are using icon-naming-utils in gnome-icon-theme to create > the backwards-compatible symlinks for icons. However, I've created the > icontool [1] project to subsume this task, as well as provide useful > tools for managing other aspects of themes and icons in applications. As > part of that, there is also now the icontool-render script, which takes > a single-canvas SVG [2], and generates individual PNG images of the > icons contained within it. This single-canvas workflow makes it much > easier to maintain icons in themes and different projects. > > As such, I would like to have icontool be a blessed external dependency > in GNOME 2.27+, so that we can switch to using it in gnome-icon-theme, > for maintaining the compatibility symlinks, and rendering icons from the > single canvas SVGs, which we intend to migrate to in the relatively near > future, for all the icons in gnome-icon-theme. Will it be developed very close to gnome-icon-theme (i.e. will it gain new options that will immediately be required by gnome-icon-theme, just like new features in ptlib/opal are directly required by ekiga) ? I am asking this as being external dependencies comes with a few rules, that may not be appropriate in that case. Just like intltool was initially part of the GNOME platform before moving only recently to the external deps, after it gained a stability and users outside of the GNOME modules, I wonder how different is the situation with icontool ? My other point is about the icontool-render script, is it expected for modules to ship single-canvas files, and create icons during 'make' ? If that's the case, how far are inkscape and librsvg ?, as depending on inkscape to render icons would make our dependency tree fall down. Cheers, Frederic From jjohnny@novell.com Thu Jun 11 11:10:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CFE750075 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:10:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.643 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.643 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.879, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 11250 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zoi--7RpaxwC for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:10:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B957A75006B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:10:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [164.99.138.87] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:10:04 -0600 Subject: Re: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. From: Johnny Jacob To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> References: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-KjW/1j0QiIvE6CRGU5Of" Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:40:05 +0530 Message-Id: <1244718605.10549.32.camel@trantor> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.27.2 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: jjohnny@novell.com List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:10:26 -0000 --=-KjW/1j0QiIvE6CRGU5Of Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 10:01 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Johnny Jacob wrote: >=20 > > Evolution-MAPI would like to use libmapi 0.8.2 instead of 0.8.0 [0] . > >=20 > > 0.8.2 has lot of memory leak fixes [1] and would need Samba4 Alpha 7.=20 > >=20 > > Patch for jhbuild is available [2]. > >=20 > > Would like to know if there are any concerns? >=20 > I am fine with it, but you should fix your jhbuild patch (the version > attributes need to be updated). >=20 Thanks, Fixed it. > Also did you check samba.configure-for-libs.patch still applies ? Yup. It does apply. Patch pushed to jhbuild master with version tag corrections and http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies page updated. Thanks. --=20 Johnny [johnnyjacob.wordpress.com | johnnyjacob.org] "May you share freely, never taking more than you give " --=-KjW/1j0QiIvE6CRGU5Of Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkow5g0ACgkQX9C3ygPc6EVcjACfU+FLq+ZX1yFzdTZj0+ZOHyZE d0oAnixKYBpn+Pjknr/5eTadkh2h1fvg =KNEF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KjW/1j0QiIvE6CRGU5Of-- From fpeters@entrouvert.com Thu Jun 11 13:17:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F837500B9 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:17:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 1221 hrs), (distance 24, link: ethernet/modem), [212.85.154.92] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xdT+V5DwDRDq for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:17:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lupin.entrouvert.com (lupin.entrouvert.com [212.85.154.92]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458A750070 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:17:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 213.219.158.167.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net ([213.219.158.167] helo=trap) by lupin.entrouvert.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MEk9L-0002rb-Tu for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:17:00 +0200 Received: from fred by trap with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MEk8x-0006N9-Jr for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:16:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:16:35 +0200 From: Frederic Peters To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Message-ID: <20090611131635.GA24440@entrouvert.com> References: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> <1244718605.10549.32.camel@trantor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1244718605.10549.32.camel@trantor> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux (squeeze/sid with kernel Linux 2.6.30) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.219.158.167 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fpeters@entrouvert.com Subject: Re: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:23:22 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on lupin.entrouvert.com) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:17:19 -0000 Johnny Jacob wrote: > > > Evolution-MAPI would like to use libmapi 0.8.2 instead of 0.8.0 [0] . [...] > Patch pushed to jhbuild master with version tag corrections and > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies page > updated. Sorry I didn't check it closely before, it looks like libmapi 0.8.2 pkg-config file still says 0.8, so evolution-mapi (that now checks for >= 0.8.2) fails to find libmapi. The pkg-config file Version field is created via configure, and libmapi has that line: AC_INIT(openchange, 0.8, [openchange@openchange.org]) It should be 0.8.2. Cheers, Frederic From javierjc1982@gmail.com Thu Jun 11 16:30:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443D475000A for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:30:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 9594 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hG4hLxqoYycK for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:29:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D21750070 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1447241fxm.15 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:29:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HfXDK7GJH83L+xq7R4GH46PeYpAd4F6QsWSRuMntDUM=; b=PLUi9IT8wf2byxzKeG8FYKc8Rlz4+EgZG5NqO4eoaIW9JaxmC+/tgVrfkRBvi/mq/B NQXNfsbOvY7/miuueMJ7k+ZgAmvg7HZkz9SO8NsS2SWGSuzeIgE9W99ezBg4Xa2pn9jG 0Pm75kuSuoihoc+i3thLaM/Smp3zLRbbniZdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KrNWkYOunZVC7I2/HC5n/cudEYYHun1bD1kKXDp7v/nDvfCdUK5DHfsh2mqIr8owjv 3VO/bQuuYryCM/nghs/PaH8sL2PYIqL2Vf275O6CbQAkhqs7CXchgQBDFO1AN9jtartg WXx3C20u9TKkH5qlIT0Rv+B4z5iA2kxaDhaQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.69 with SMTP id b5mr2366742fas.34.1244737787219; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:29:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal From: Javi To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:30:06 -0000 Hello, I've sent a mail to the gtk-devel list [3] about consolidate libsexy library in GTK+ in the context of the project Ridley [4] and seems that they agree. For that reason, I'd like to propose turn DropLibsexy [1] into a official GNOME Goal [2]. (Further, almost all the work is done :)) Any suggestion/objection? If you agree, I can update the GnomeGoal page with the new changes. Best Regards, [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/DropLibsexy [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/ [3] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2009-June/msg00002.html [4] http://live.gnome.org/ProjectRidley --=20 Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From lmedinas@gmail.com Thu Jun 11 18:03:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D27750075 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:03:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1051 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I4qsOHAG-cTB for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:03:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f207.google.com (mail-bw0-f207.google.com [209.85.218.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CEB750070 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so1486385bwz.15 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jSfDWIDunQo+eA+DslmVAQHoM8jrtWSJSxir2J8pg1A=; b=QYBMNLem+4X80tOwK6z9w7GWj1MiIFcSl1VJJa2AI3ugwLQfGOdvAYctHNfSNoIK3b 1QScYSk8BSEIDHyCy8JFluokzAry9Sha/+SSSjFZ90rA9uqZE9J5RAugzOVT1C8SQFDg yfOGz7KKTpwj3ZjVg1BeK8YL5NRtegkh6xRYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ftO0CgVReL0Citzs0ogiqTrpI/d7yiAoDQs6F2E2XfrRwlW+ur7pIP5WaWHfFbYjDe CjMhINdcTWcb7uxLvNkddslNFB4nrqbwtybHFaFExJhS9eC3vyRLipzIgJl5Bo+/7cNA GdyvnYw1sL7ukizu26wOXYMMjpvpilAkmnN0E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lmedinas@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.0.73 with SMTP id 51mr1006039wea.52.1244743375450; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:02:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:02:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dfdae94ce4a76532 Message-ID: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal From: Luis Medinas To: Javi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:03:12 -0000 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Javi wrote: > Hello, > > I've sent a mail to the gtk-devel list [3] about consolidate libsexy > library in GTK+ in the > context of the project Ridley [4] and seems that they agree. > > For that reason, I'd like to propose turn DropLibsexy [1] into a > official GNOME Goal [2]. > (Further, almost all the work is done :)) > > Any suggestion/objection? > > If you agree, I can update the GnomeGoal page with the new changes. > +1 for me, i already helped with a patch and there isn't many modules using libsexy. So this should be a goal for 2.28. Luis From me@jasonclinton.com Thu Jun 11 18:23:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E16675007E; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:23:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 1355 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.92.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c5drn-lC37tA; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:23:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC1F750070; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:23:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so951493qwh.9 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:23:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.131 with SMTP id k3mr1340537iba.47.1244744596762; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:23:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal From: "Jason D. Clinton" To: Luis Medinas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534d5df86b09f046c16afb2 Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:23:33 -0000 --00221534d5df86b09f046c16afb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Luis Medinas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Javi wrote: > > I've sent a mail to the gtk-devel list [3] about consolidate libsexy > > library in GTK+ in the > > context of the project Ridley [4] and seems that they agree. > > > > For that reason, I'd like to propose turn DropLibsexy [1] into a > > official GNOME Goal [2]. > > (Further, almost all the work is done :)) > > > > Any suggestion/objection? > > > > If you agree, I can update the GnomeGoal page with the new changes. > > > +1 for me, i already helped with a patch and there isn't many modules > using libsexy. So this should be a goal for 2.28. > How 'bout 2.30 after the GTK+ release incorporating these changes is fully released and widely available? --00221534d5df86b09f046c16afb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Luis Medinas <lmedinas@gnome.or= g> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Javi<javierjc1982@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've sent a mail to the gtk-devel list [3] about consolidate libse= xy
> library in GTK+ in the
> context of the project Ridley [4] and seems that they agree.
>
> For that reason, I'd like to propose turn DropLibsexy [1] into a > official GNOME Goal [2].
> (Further, almost all the work is done :))
>
> Any suggestion/objection?
>
> If you agree, I can update the GnomeGoal page with the new changes. >
+1 for me, i already helped with a patch and there isn't many mod= ules
using libsexy. So this should be a goal for 2.28.
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How 'bout 2.30 after the GTK+ release incorporating thes= e changes is fully released and widely available?

--00221534d5df86b09f046c16afb2-- From lmedinas@gmail.com Thu Jun 11 18:38:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4319A75000A for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:38:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 10853 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DkcV7hCJtBch for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:38:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144C67500A9 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:38:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1809171ewy.15 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rHAmNBoyDRbEK8b33l8Ko+eyzuhmq0UiRepqH7WFAWw=; b=s+iOzuL/q+0Om9cDaVNkjQSz/sipvITHWFwDaNrZP54NTSpa9l/l+PjCYdHGgx4BSS HHPPN6ZLekiL2oQsVP8dzfK6rsu/47hq8F//wu8NSDr/Cb0CyTZIePPJqCvK///+c6kK WQArOGsELL7Xzbc3eIJD/+CBxB45PHywi2bpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bWlWNQEDSdUzyT5H6jpMYsGAYdgbzsJfy+M+YiyEdInLv8+kcVgLy4hSYOi9r1ZqCb UZTO8zPDcg087qSXiy1KfdnNuruQ2EyLO1seNd4obYeASKCR3NpU/KZuB1I9tHpcaxds U26eX9jAV+sITtbFnHKGET2I7KsSerYsSjlJ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lmedinas@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.15.68 with SMTP id e46mr1036460wee.225.1244745516309; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:38:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:38:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3bc29eaf1ff34835 Message-ID: <4a817280906111138n3865eec7u60ef60c383d3640c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal From: Luis Medinas To: "Jason D. Clinton" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:38:53 -0000 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Luis Medinas wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Javi wrote: >> > I've sent a mail to the gtk-devel list [3] about consolidate libsexy >> > library in GTK+ in the >> > context of the project Ridley [4] and seems that they agree. >> > >> > For that reason, I'd like to propose turn DropLibsexy [1] into a >> > official GNOME Goal [2]. >> > (Further, almost all the work is done :)) >> > >> > Any suggestion/objection? >> > >> > If you agree, I can update the GnomeGoal page with the new changes. >> > >> +1 for me, i already helped with a patch and there isn't many modules >> using libsexy. So this should be a goal for 2.28. > > > How 'bout 2.30 after the GTK+ release incorporating these changes is fully > released and widely available? > > The most used libsexy features are already on GTK+ 2.16 and 2.17. So i think it's acceptable turn this into an official goal. Luis From javierjc1982@gmail.com Thu Jun 11 19:00:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B4275000A for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:00:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 9620 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.226] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lwW+IDp-Y+jw for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:00:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f226.google.com (mail-fx0-f226.google.com [209.85.220.226]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FAB75006B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:00:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm26 with SMTP id 26so1524775fxm.15 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y1PkrV3lQhgXThVOgZBR9dIsvgXhilR/uKMJcdbj8Ac=; b=KFyvWTfjksbE4yAvcrb43D9AE8zOFKDeFHudIrHdy2CwOrVquUBg2W7nTtbVfHXih5 jLN8jab0/1LJ7q/asmtw3vA10M21P92oGICSqqP+gRBTbUwhFSsqPjpjHlGusAeTN7K7 b0b7bcVvtHLEMmQ6yFWFOu1sPLx4PNZGlJd3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WfwG9GkQztGwmSPj34PU6XwDVtuFUgQPE2mVyxyEb3RYeCOsWL4QWa5ZWFnsCngmk8 KqRXJ31/QoPpW5fG6E0o8GNDc6JGrr45c8DotBCp56bpy4jmHS4SDbVvaUBmHygLL2l+ XPm+YdPRdYilh3V1JI+rTsZR1xAME8cxMCXFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.120.197 with SMTP id e5mr2396805far.25.1244746816761; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4a817280906111138n3865eec7u60ef60c383d3640c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> <4a817280906111138n3865eec7u60ef60c383d3640c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:00:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal From: Javi To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:00:36 -0000 2009/6/11 Luis Medinas : > > The most used libsexy features are already on GTK+ 2.16 and 2.17. So i > think it's > acceptable turn this into an official goal. > Indeed, the only feature that is still not supported is SexySpellEntry, and as fas as know only is used by xchat [1]. There is a bug about adding this to GTK+ here: [2] [1] http://www.gnome.org/~fpeters/reports/libsexy.html [2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D383706 -- Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From liberforce@freeside.fr Fri Jun 12 00:02:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725747500A9 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:02:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:44:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W8:.:?:?] (up: 8375 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [93.17.128.19] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2c+uxOhIaFzQ for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:02:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.19]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B5575000A for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E49CE7000084; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:02:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (119.239.194-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.194.239.119]) by msfrf2303.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B1BC27000081; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:02:14 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20090612000214728.B1BC27000081@msfrf2303.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4A319B01.2040707@freeside.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:02:09 +0200 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090319) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Javi Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal References: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> <4a817280906111138n3865eec7u60ef60c383d3640c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:02:32 -0000 Javi a écrit : > 2009/6/11 Luis Medinas : >> The most used libsexy features are already on GTK+ 2.16 and 2.17. So i >> think it's >> acceptable turn this into an official goal. >> > > Indeed, the only feature that is still not supported is > SexySpellEntry, and as fas as know only is used by xchat [1]. > There is a bug about adding this to GTK+ here: [2] There are already a bunch of official goals, and it's already hard to have every maintainer applying the patches. We should try to avoid multiplying the unachieved goals... This one is a small one, so it won't be harful, but we may need to consider keeping only a definite number of open goals at a time... -- Luis Menina From jjohnny@novell.com Fri Jun 12 12:08:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA92E7500C5 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.649 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.873, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_JH=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 11312 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dTS0wwKfRKkX for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C768750008 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [164.99.138.87] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:08:02 -0600 Subject: Re: external dependancy libmapi (openchange) version bump. From: Johnny Jacob To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <20090611131635.GA24440@entrouvert.com> References: <1244085931.14838.12.camel@trantor> <20090604080143.GB10511@entrouvert.com> <1244718605.10549.32.camel@trantor> <20090611131635.GA24440@entrouvert.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/ZpYAtqjxKpSlZu/C2FB" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:38:04 +0530 Message-Id: <1244808484.31993.17.camel@trantor> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.27.2 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: jjohnny@novell.com List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:24 -0000 --=-/ZpYAtqjxKpSlZu/C2FB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 15:16 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Johnny Jacob wrote: > > > > Evolution-MAPI would like to use libmapi 0.8.2 instead of 0.8.0 [0]= . > [...] > > Patch pushed to jhbuild master with version tag corrections and > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies page > > updated. >=20 > Sorry I didn't check it closely before, it looks like libmapi 0.8.2 > pkg-config file still says 0.8, so evolution-mapi (that now checks > for >=3D 0.8.2) fails to find libmapi. >=20 > The pkg-config file Version field is created via configure, and > libmapi has that line: > AC_INIT(openchange, 0.8, [openchange@openchange.org]) > It should be 0.8.2. Raised a ticket in openchange regarding this [0]. Meanwhile I'll revert the libmapi version check in evolution-mapi Thanks. [0] http://trac.openchange.org/ticket/165 --=20 Johnny [johnnyjacob.wordpress.com | johnnyjacob.org] "May you share freely, never taking more than you give " --=-/ZpYAtqjxKpSlZu/C2FB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkoyRSQACgkQX9C3ygPc6EXocwCfeu24+jXoFjGxEygjdJC5p7rA 3wEAn1hQxNZ5jVkl/xFow1ucvHiGWFvP =0R90 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/ZpYAtqjxKpSlZu/C2FB-- From vuntz@gnome.org Fri Jun 12 16:44:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCDB750127 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:44:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2653 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [82.240.102.222] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3wUHfdnE4R5J for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:44:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.240.102.222]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9289E75011C for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:44:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 722C91126FF; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:44:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:44:34 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Officially turn DropLibsexy into a GNOME Goal Message-ID: <20090612164434.GT10754@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <4a817280906111102x59bff7e6hfd2e2fffa30cab57@mail.gmail.com> <4a817280906111138n3865eec7u60ef60c383d3640c@mail.gmail.com> <4A319B01.2040707@freeside.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A319B01.2040707@freeside.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:44:50 -0000 Le vendredi 12 juin 2009, à 02:02 +0200, Luis Menina a écrit : > Javi a écrit : >> 2009/6/11 Luis Medinas : >>> The most used libsexy features are already on GTK+ 2.16 and 2.17. So i >>> think it's >>> acceptable turn this into an official goal. >>> >> >> Indeed, the only feature that is still not supported is >> SexySpellEntry, and as fas as know only is used by xchat [1]. >> There is a bug about adding this to GTK+ here: [2] > > There are already a bunch of official goals, and it's already hard to > have every maintainer applying the patches. We should try to avoid > multiplying the unachieved goals... This one is a small one, so it won't > be harful, but we may need to consider keeping only a definite number of > open goals at a time... Agree that we don't want to have 10 goals at the same time. But on the other hand, we shouldn't block on maintainers not applying patches -- if that's the only thing remaining in one specific goal, then it's already good ;-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From marcandre.lureau@gmail.com Sun Jun 14 19:37:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773DE7501E7 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:37:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.516 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1787 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YWwvbv2iIHXX for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:37:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f207.google.com (mail-bw0-f207.google.com [209.85.218.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB777501D9 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:37:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so2689884bwz.15 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1q55tn82d+Cx8Cr/MZ1P7o/pIuLmaKyYmi/gY2/cN94=; b=cwY6F0Hjihb8vKBmqVoKvwbMAQ4RFxSLEpAL+vkSfyJVgD++jt0uckXx64bFFa8MsR kqzI31eyLNjuFCtrh44LZrpGMQ9QIK42fQFRn1ri++HriWT1b39oP+l4KFJFDHn2OOwH zHpSR0TDHA0QJJoO0KGW59/x13MqXn1hufbe8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=t+cUJx9mEsbN/96aBUnJdXGN89kuqXNCjyop3+fK6spSfPz4eZIvSluT57+qcRYOZB vvmn3HgGsFGWy1y+w+mmfmhBpXvvyk0JWIBTw4RPxj5L39aiUy/IPXL+FHYh0QEEbJcF MTaelMPrCPSwr/FIggaLMd1Kov+sOAJ5EV/Es= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.101.13 with SMTP id a13mr6210413bko.89.1245008230926; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:37:10 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: PulseAudio dependency raised to 0.9.15 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marc=2DAndr=E9_Lureau?= To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Bastien Nocera , Lennart Poettering X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:37:29 -0000 Hi, Most of the recent gnome-volume-control work by Bastien and Lennart is using PulseAudio API >=3D 0.9.15. However, 0.9.14 is the current min dependency version (http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies). I'd like to update the minimum required version to 0.9.15 and the recommended version to 0.9.16 for GNOME. Bastien, Lennart, would you agree on that dependency version? Questions? regards, --=20 Marc-Andr=E9 Lureau From hadess@hadess.net Sun Jun 14 20:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1A67500D8 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:27:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.276 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.240, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 276 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nk9x30IpJWX4 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B6A7500C2 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:27:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5EKRGW2018654; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:27:16 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5EKRDRr027237; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:27:15 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.189] (vpn-12-189.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.189]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5EKRBgB002396; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:27:12 -0400 Subject: Re: PulseAudio dependency raised to 0.9.15 From: Bastien Nocera To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marc-Andr=E9?= Lureau In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:27:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1245011230.11069.5910.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: Lennart Poettering , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:27:36 -0000 On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 22:37 +0300, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi, > > Most of the recent gnome-volume-control work by Bastien and Lennart is > using PulseAudio API >= 0.9.15. However, 0.9.14 is the current min > dependency version > (http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies). > > I'd like to update the minimum required version to 0.9.15 and the > recommended version to 0.9.16 for GNOME. > > Bastien, Lennart, would you agree on that dependency version? Sure thing, that's already what we're shipping for our 2.26-based distro, and it will be needed for gnome-bluetooth's Bluetooth audio support which should get into 2.28. Can we remove the old code to support 0.9.14 please? :) Cheers From vuntz@gnome.org Mon Jun 15 07:53:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE367501C4; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:53:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2811 hrs), (distance 22, link: ethernet/modem), [82.240.102.222] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8HBIxHOw0Smf; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:53:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.240.102.222]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6733D7501B9; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:53:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 021C9112700; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:53:27 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: Xan Lopez Subject: Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency Message-ID: <20090615075327.GU10754@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: Xan Lopez , Joanmarie Diggs , Willie Walker , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <20090506125850.GY10754@vuntz.net> <4A019793.2080006@sun.com> <1241629098.1574.28.camel@pokey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Willie Walker , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:53:45 -0000 Hi, Le mercredi 06 mai 2009, à 20:22 +0300, Xan Lopez a écrit : > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Joanmarie Diggs > wrote: > > Right now, my answer is "gosh, I sure hope so." :-) Admittedly, not as > > good as a "heck yes!", but better than "no." > > > > Where things stand as of today is that WebKit needs quite a bit of work > > to ready as far as a11y is concerned. HOWEVER, I've arranged my DayJob > > schedule in such a way as to be able to devote around 3 days per week on > > the GNOME side of WebKit a11y, and Xan is already providing patches for > > the critical issues I've identified thus far. So if we can keep this up, > > and if we do not run across any really complicated issues, I believe > > that things will at least be "good enough" -- and ideally "good" -- in > > time for 2.28. But it is hard to predict the future, especially this > > early on in my (active) involvement, hence my optimistic maybe. > > > > Xan, what are your thoughts? Vincent and others, when do you need a > > definite yea or nay by? > > I think that's a pretty good summary. Things are already much better > than they were a few weeks ago, and I think we have a promising set up > to improve them much more in the coming months. It's difficult to > predict how things will work out, and as usual I'm sure we'll find > problems we didn't expect and so on, but that shouldn't make us deny > the fact that things WILL get much better by 2.28. > > In any case let's try to do our best here, and in a few more weeks I'm > sure we'll have a clearer picture of where we'll stand by 2.28. So a few more weeks have passed. Do we have a clearer picture? :-) Looking at the NEWS file of WebKitGTK+, it seems there have been quite some good work since 1.1.5 on a11y. Is the current state of things good enough to say that it's okay to use it for 2.28? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From agx@sigxcpu.org Mon Jun 15 08:38:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42806750292 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.722 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.722 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, TW_KR=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [5808:42:1:60:M1420, S, T, N, W6:.:?:?] (up: 418 hrs), (link: unknown-1460), [87.79.238.240] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oaZfz0A+ilxX for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from honk.sigxcpu.org (static-87-79-238-240.netcologne.de [87.79.238.240]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB529750117 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by honk.sigxcpu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6B79C004; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at honk.sigxcpu.org Received: from honk.sigxcpu.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (honk.sigxcpu.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WXqkzZFjT83P; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bogon.sigxcpu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93C395203A; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:37 +0200 From: Guido =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther?= To: Andre Klapper Subject: Re: krb5-auth-dialog propsal Message-ID: <20090615083837.GB10318@bogon.sigxcpu.org> References: <20090507105120.GA26322@bogon.ms20.nix> <1242211173.17021.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090513191331.GA25015@bogon.ms20.nix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090513191331.GA25015@bogon.ms20.nix> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:42 -0000 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:13:31PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:39:33PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: [..snip..] > Most of these aren't from krb5-auth-dialog itself. They were extracted > from com_err .et files of MIT Kerberos itself to make them translatable. > Restricting the extraction to src/lib/krb5/error_tables instead of the > whole Kerberos source tree reduces the numboer of strings by a factor of > two. Limiting the list to the most common errors returned by the > Kerberos libs would make sense. I've implemented this and also added a note to translators where the strings in dummy-strings.c come from so they can skipped easily. > > strings, most of them very technical and not easily translatable. > > Just to pick up one example, I wonder if any average user will > > understand "Programmer error! Bad Admin server handle" and if any > > translator knows what is meant here and if this should really be > > displayed to the end user. > > There are lots of such strings, hence I definitely request a review of > > all translatable strings before I would accept this for GNOME. > > > > Also, is there any documentation available? > Except for the above URL and the README not yet. It ships a manual now. -- Guido From ak-47@gmx.net Mon Jun 15 10:33:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CE77502E1 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:33:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, TW_KR=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 4652 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFP97Hw9iuk6 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A1C47502EB for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jun 2009 10:33:05 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.6]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 15 Jun 2009 12:33:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+j66pddGejp+lbxe9w2DKw6x6HvaNZqH7+Ou0GdE zLefLykGbi8QLC Subject: Re: krb5-auth-dialog proposal From: Andre Klapper To: Guido =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther?= In-Reply-To: <20090615083837.GB10318@bogon.sigxcpu.org> References: <20090507105120.GA26322@bogon.ms20.nix> <1242211173.17021.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090513191331.GA25015@bogon.ms20.nix> <20090615083837.GB10318@bogon.sigxcpu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:33:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1245061984.21546.175.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 Cc: GNOME i18n , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:33:27 -0000 (CC'ing gnome-i18n as this is mostly about translations.) Also see http://l10n.gnome.org/module/krb5-auth-dialog/ . Hi, Am Montag, den 15.06.2009, 10:38 +0200 schrieb Guido Günther: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:13:31PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > > Restricting the extraction to src/lib/krb5/error_tables instead of the > > whole Kerberos source tree reduces the numboer of strings by a factor of > > two. Limiting the list to the most common errors returned by the > > Kerberos libs would make sense. > I've implemented this and also added a note to translators where the > strings in dummy-strings.c come from so they can skipped easily. 346 translatable strings now, compared to 637. Way better. Thanks! But having no experience with KRB5/such auth stuff at all, I still wonder how strings like "Policy rejects transited path" or "Inappropriate type of checksum in message" are helpful to an average user. What exactly am I (probably a user whose computer has been set up to use krb5) expected to do here when getting such an error message? I still see big issues in translating stuff like "Ticket is ineligible for postdating" if you're a translator who is not technically into KRB5. Also, can you please add a comment to msgid "translator-credits"? > > > Also, is there any documentation available? > > Except for the above URL and the README not yet. > It ships a manual now. Great. Thanks for your work! andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From joanmarie.diggs@gmail.com Mon Jun 15 18:48:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C964D7503DF; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:48:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) 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(c-98-217-239-60.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [98.217.239.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm88467qwf.9.2009.06.15.11.47.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency From: Joanmarie Diggs To: Vincent Untz In-Reply-To: <20090615075327.GU10754@vuntz.net> References: <20090506125850.GY10754@vuntz.net> <4A019793.2080006@sun.com> <1241629098.1574.28.camel@pokey> <20090615075327.GU10754@vuntz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:44:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1245091492.1263.7.camel@blockhead> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Willie Walker , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:48:14 -0000 On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 09:53 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: [...] > > In any case let's try to do our best here, and in a few more weeks I'm > > sure we'll have a clearer picture of where we'll stand by 2.28. > > So a few more weeks have passed. Do we have a clearer picture? :-) > > Looking at the NEWS file of WebKitGTK+, it seems there have been quite > some good work since 1.1.5 on a11y. Is the current state of things good > enough to say that it's okay to use it for 2.28? The metabug for a11y issues (at least those that impact Orca) is: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25531 Lots of great work has indeed been done on a11y. Lots of great work remains to be done. :-) There may be a few additional bugs that will get added to that list as we implement support in Orca. When is the must-know deadline? Take care. --joanie From vuntz@gnome.org Mon Jun 15 20:42:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F43750107 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:42:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 2843 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [82.240.102.222] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HKj+V-2wI-zW for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:42:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.240.102.222]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0EC750006 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D9871126DF; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:42:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:42:19 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: Joanmarie Diggs Subject: Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency Message-ID: <20090615204219.GA10754@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: Joanmarie Diggs , Willie Walker , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <20090506125850.GY10754@vuntz.net> <4A019793.2080006@sun.com> <1241629098.1574.28.camel@pokey> <20090615075327.GU10754@vuntz.net> <1245091492.1263.7.camel@blockhead> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1245091492.1263.7.camel@blockhead> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Willie Walker , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:42:38 -0000 Le lundi 15 juin 2009, à 14:44 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit : > > On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 09:53 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > [...] > > > In any case let's try to do our best here, and in a few more weeks I'm > > > sure we'll have a clearer picture of where we'll stand by 2.28. > > > > So a few more weeks have passed. Do we have a clearer picture? :-) > > > > Looking at the NEWS file of WebKitGTK+, it seems there have been quite > > some good work since 1.1.5 on a11y. Is the current state of things good > > enough to say that it's okay to use it for 2.28? > > The metabug for a11y issues (at least those that impact Orca) is: > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25531 > > Lots of great work has indeed been done on a11y. Lots of great work > remains to be done. :-) There may be a few additional bugs that will > get added to that list as we implement support in Orca. > > When is the must-know deadline? I'd say no later than GUADEC (first half of July), and the sooner, the better: there'll be some work to finish if we accept WebKit as external dependency, and we'll of course need testing. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From cass@skynet.be Tue Jun 16 08:43:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AE875000A for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:43:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:47:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W4:.:?:?] (up: 603 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [93.93.131.97] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYVLDieDwJhK for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bhuna.collabora.co.uk (bhuna.collabora.co.uk [93.93.131.97]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B20750076 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:43:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [172.22.64.191] (78-105-109-196.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.109.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bhuna.collabora.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94083116A4C for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:43:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency From: Guillaume Desmottes To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1241561144.10727.9.camel@cass-x200s.lan> References: <639ee84a0905040822p7794b38ehd708c41fb0e482a9@mail.gmail.com> <1241561144.10727.9.camel@cass-x200s.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:43:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1245141783.4381.1.camel@cass-x200s.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:43:24 -0000 Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 23:05 +0100, Guillaume Desmottes a écrit : > Le lundi 04 mai 2009 à 16:22 +0100, Alp Toker a écrit : > > And finally, are there any unported projects remaining? I helped port > > a few applications and the patches have been integrated, and you've > > kept things active on the Epiphany side. GIMP, DevHelp, Yelp, > > Epiphany, Epiphany Extensions, Blam, Conduit and externally various > > Mono applications, Lifearea. > > http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/ApplicationsGtk has a more complete list. > > But with so many projects, are there any we've missed? Any patches > > still waiting to be merged from a branch? Maintainers, please speak > > up! > > Empathy has a pending branch implementing adium themes using WebkitGtk. > AFAIK the branch should be ported to latest webkit releases and > reviewed. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522069 This branch has been merged and is in Empathy 2.27.3. G. -- Guillaume Desmottes Jabber GPG 1024D/711E31B1 | 1B5A 1BA8 11AA F0F1 2169 E28A AC55 8671 711E 31B1 From shaunm@gnome.org Thu Jun 18 04:09:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A677500DD; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:09:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:50:1:56:M1460,S,T:.:?:?] (up: 587 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [66.111.4.25] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kQ-rMuXMlAHw; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:09:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5897500D1; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:09:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7244236210C; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:09:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: tx1YYC/o02Qq4bIEoYuZZxxSS9TeGin4OeEtxculXbfh 1245298146 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-98-212-133-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.212.133.244]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C5067C86F; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Yelp 2.27.1, Now With More Ducks From: Shaun McCance To: gnome-announce-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:09:04 -0500 Message-Id: <1245298144.22426.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.4 (2.24.4-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-doc-devel-list@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, gnome-love@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:09:26 -0000 I've just released Yelp 2.27.1, Now With More Ducks. This coincides with gnome-doc-utils 0.17.1, Also Now With More Ducks. This marks the first release with Mallard support built in. And this marks the end of the boring part of the release announcement. This is a huge shift in how we approach, plan, write, and generally work with documentation. The entire community needs to be aware of what's happening and how it affects them. Fellow hackers, please skip to the bottom for information on how this affects you. Mallard is a new[1] documentation format that is geared towards topic-oriented help. While you could, in theory, just convert all of your DocBook documentation to Mallard, what you would end up with is a document that is the worst of both worlds. Writing topic-based help requires a new way of thinking about how we present information to our readers. Mallard is uniquely designed from the ground up to support downstream modification and plugin-based help systems with little to no patching. The dynamic organization structure of Mallard was designed with our help in mind, addressing the challenges we face as an upstream provider. If you're interested in writing, editing, reviewing, or otherwise contributing to our documentation, please get in touch with our team. You can email use at gnome-doc-list@gnome.org or join us in the #docs channel on irc.gnome.org. Also, check out our brand new project blog: http://blogs.gnome.org/docs/ We will be holding regular community meetings. Stay tuned for more details. If you are a maintainer or active developer, know that we are coming for your documentation. It might not be today, but it's on our radar. If you or someone on your team handles your documentation independently of our team, we still want to be in contact to help them produce better help. Writing is not a one-person task. We hope that developers will be cooperative with our team as we try to provide them with better help files to make their software better for their users. We also hope that more people from the greater community, including our downstream communities, will get involved with our team. We are doing some truly exciting things right now, and we'd love to share the excitement. Fearlessly, Shaun [1] Yes, I realize I've been quacking since 2004. But it's newly released, and that counts for something. From ak-47@gmx.net Thu Jun 18 16:46:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0CA750077 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:46:30 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, TW_GG=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 4731 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UwPPmjc1aFJv for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:46:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05DFC750091 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:46:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2009 16:46:09 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.6]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 18 Jun 2009 18:46:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+hMiAnJFih5h/8W8ybf8vNwHDVpJUgSL45OS8/kN gGOm6sAKYc4IWG Subject: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Andre Klapper To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:46:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.46 Cc: gnome-bugsquad X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:46:30 -0000 GNOME 2.26.3 will be released on July 1st. GNOME 2.28 in September. Take a look, test & help out, get things done now instead of postponing plus being surprised of a sudden freeze that has always been mentioned in http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven . ;-) Please do speak up if there are important bugs that are not listed here. Also please keep in mind to clean up your modules for GNOME3. See http://www.gnome.org/~fpeters/299.html for the status of your module. ================================================ BRASERO ================================================ Brasero don't burn DVD DL (double layer) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562897 Brasero maintainers (Luis) set the 2.26 blocker here. ================================================ EVOLUTION ================================================ Camel Disk summary meta bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543389 Summary says it all, still a few regression bugs opened here Corruption of mailbox and can't expunge trash http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550414 This has been open for 10 months and there's still no fix. Evolution is unusable in 800x600 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267787 I wonder whether this is simply a WONTFIX and covered by Anjal now. ================================================ GCONF-EDITOR ================================================ Configuration Editor should use PolicyKit to set mandatory and default keys without restarting http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512494 Waiting for Vuntz to update his patch. ================================================ GNOME-GAMES ================================================ Text is not sanely translatable http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551859 This is a complicated issue. More input by translators welcome as this is a complicated issue. Remove deprecated GTK+ symbols http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572333 This is blocked by a new upstream ggz release. ================================================ GNOME-KEYRING ================================================ "Password: " is not translated in pam module http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572360 Patch available, someone needs to be brave enough to commit though. ================================================ GNOME-SESSION ================================================ Exits when the system D-Bus daemon restarts http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583345 Patch available. gnome-session-properties needs button to save session http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575544 Patch available (and feedback from Debian). ================================================ GTK+ ================================================ Session Management support http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79285 One issue that blocks killing libegg and properly killing libgnome(ui). ================================================ GVFS ================================================ Too many internal strings marked for translation http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517014 Might be a WONTFIX as per last comment - someone else willing to comment? ================================================ NAUTILUS ================================================ nautilus flips out when show_desktop is unchecked http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571417 A patch has been available for 6 weeks and has been confirmed to work. ================================================ POLICYKIT-GNOME ================================================ Some strings doesn't work properly with translations http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549411 Trivial patch still awaiting review from the maintainers. No changes since February. ================================================ SABAYON ================================================ When I try to edit ANYTHING, the program crashes. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524204 A patch has been posted in bug 542604 - now if any Sabayon maintainer could review and/or commit... ================================================ SEAHORSE ================================================ SSH keys not selected on import http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355163 Seahorse maintainers (Stef) set the 2.28 blocker here. ================================================ VINO ================================================ show .local hostname if avahi is present http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330691 ================================================ YELP ================================================ rtl problems rendering tables of contents in yelp http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573159 Yelp maintainers (Shaun) set the 2.26 blocker here. ================================================ GNOME GOALS left: ================================================ * http://live.gnome.org/GtkPrintPort : This only requires an update of gnome-devel-docs and a solution for gnome-python-desktop. * http://live.gnome.org/GioPort : This only requires a solution for gnome-python-desktop. More Goals available: * http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/CleanupGTKIncludes * http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/DropLibsexy * http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveDeprecatedSymbols/Glib * http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveDeprecatedSymbols/GTK%2B * http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveLibGladeUseGtkBuilder See http://www.gnome.org/~fpeters/299.html for automatically updated status reports of all modules. More info about the showstopper reviews at http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/ShowstopperReviews -andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Thu Jun 18 21:08:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3F37500A6; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:08:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 4424 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.217.213] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KOLo-duZ4uxt; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gx0-f213.google.com (mail-gx0-f213.google.com [209.85.217.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5C8750008; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1924675gxk.15 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:08:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8/tpZ1p6K0nOOBjsuRvYrHkhZB4079xXcRxoehwJ/Go=; b=Mo7AsgmD5r2aLG7nTvXsAtQtk/N9HD2zR5u9Bc6rokBymD6V5ly1+M1QULDwJNTLfY Tiqxft/qTpLiNQiICGgMq9GxZOjfkvJhDUKpp5OEu3wWtbrjJuUP3driTWmPlwLUkUVb 4tq8w1cVEB41/dEpHqFCvlgX7Sr+WzV7H2ems= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dTEsAtHnPUTTVKzKhMolVCQwhBlZ06ZTE08tht5bXtRh3WG3IUHNHD5hFGVZVSxgD7 KYyzf1gscys852AoZz256y5qX2dmPkgyfAI5Ik5p50uOu2JmzNH9wZDz+j+zVjbxuC1Y whE+bzhX/6/5xqNzxYFwWt8xbZ2KezDDtmCEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.136.1 with SMTP id o1mr4393556ybn.4.1245359314463; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:08:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Matthias Clasen To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-bugsquad , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:08:54 -0000 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > GNOME 2.26.3 will be released on July 1st. GNOME 2.28 in September. ================================================ > GNOME-SESSION > ================================================ > Exits when the system D-Bus daemon restarts > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583345 > Patch available. How is this a blocker ? I know that debian thinks it is a good idea to restart the bus, but everybody else pretty much agrees it is crazy to support that... > ================================================ > GTK+ > ================================================ > Session Management support > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79285 > One issue that blocks killing libegg and properly killing libgnome(ui). > At this point, unlikely to happen for 2.18. ================================================ > POLICYKIT-GNOME > ================================================ > Some strings doesn't work properly with translations > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549411 > Trivial patch still awaiting review from the maintainers. > No changes since February. Note that PolicyKit-gnome is going to be phased out when we bump the PolicyKit dependency to the 1.0 api. David will be sending mail about that shortly. From jan@jgc.homeip.net Thu Jun 18 21:52:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0267500BA for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 7421 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [194.50.163.237] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IlyA5Wf3KKKE for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server.jantheman.be (server.jantheman.be [194.50.163.237]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601ED7500A6 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.jantheman.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEB913C008 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:51:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at server.jantheman.be Received: from server.jantheman.be ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jantheman.be [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OD2ytb3C-IIP for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:51:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.0.103] (66.84-49-237.nextgentel.com [84.49.237.66]) (Authenticated sender: jan@jgc.homeip.net) by server.jantheman.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B35F913C007 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:51:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Jan de Groot To: desktop-devel-list In-Reply-To: References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:51:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1245361910.16077.1.camel@jan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:11 -0000 On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 17:08 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > ================================================ > > GNOME-SESSION > > ================================================ > > Exits when the system D-Bus daemon restarts > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583345 > > Patch available. > > How is this a blocker ? I know that debian thinks it is a good idea to > restart the bus, but everybody else pretty much agrees it is crazy to > support that... I haven't seen this one affecting me yet, but from previous experiences, dbus would crash in the middle of a package upgrade sometimes. When your whole gnome session including all running applications and the gnome-terminal that drives your package upgrade process gets killed because of a crashing dbus daemon, you're not amused. I'm ok with a crippled desktop because dbus crashed, but I'm not ok with loss of work. From joss@debian.org Fri Jun 19 11:39:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5857500A3; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:39:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:42:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W4:.:?:?] (up: 4409 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [91.121.19.57] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q8AWzCFaS4Ss; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:39:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from diva.malsain.org (diva.malsain.org [91.121.19.57]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AEB75008C; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:39:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by diva.malsain.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MHcRS-0006rz-By; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:39:34 +0200 Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Josselin Mouette To: Matthias Clasen In-Reply-To: References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-d6YR8ko5x8n35z9jK1ZV" Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:39:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1245411572.4341.142.camel@shizuru> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 Cc: gnome-bugsquad , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:39:54 -0000 --=-d6YR8ko5x8n35z9jK1ZV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeudi 18 juin 2009 =C3=A0 17:08 -0400, Matthias Clasen a =C3=A9crit : > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > GNOME-SESSION > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Exits when the system D-Bus daemon restarts > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D583345 > > Patch available. >=20 > How is this a blocker ? I know that debian thinks it is a good idea to > restart the bus, but everybody else pretty much agrees it is crazy to > support that... I have yet to see a good reason to treat D-Bus differently from other daemons. It=E2=80=99s not as if it was complicated to reconnect to the daem= on when it is restarted. Cheers, --=20 .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' =E2=80=9CI recommend you to learn English in hope that you in `- future understand things=E2=80=9D -- J=C3=B6rg Schilling --=-d6YR8ko5x8n35z9jK1ZV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBKO3j0rSla4ddfhTMRAiroAJ9Ludoy/Y18gaKnc23oHVrvw7wmnwCg/f4J ikud/M0CNZSbR7Vg9ctJms4= =WhUq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-d6YR8ko5x8n35z9jK1ZV-- From patrys@gmail.com Fri Jun 19 11:45:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9097500D8; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:45:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 3047 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.157] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Y9Fb4KEB5lY; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F7F75006E; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:45:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so681101fga.10 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:45:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qc897XQFPTPrTYeip1L0X4BmV9Q239EtdGqU/oonxnQ=; b=F1WbPZowH2+cAD8aa/+uVTCKi/1Mf39aEDB1gJdoglTVmx2+KoDYczRsWxYExZ5n8X /ew2Ts4SS5LQ2OaV/oWHvxU3asUB4XzGeqD2PGvdvQ1DZsNetyW+2cuFVhoGSgBbAxMx dCoDJ1hOAcTV9IggQdYorXDZU4mc2G+x+B2k8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QZ3g6IM66uOKtqZGDPmJ+CMd2wyUN6xm5XPrIEkJ5E/uxIigNwI/rqQ3mhMbXV8CdX iO4mMteX/fskNbYseDa4NgEdV9vGTzQzOHxnaJn+RM77ohvggLIxJJhdtGbDfesh4TEI slCd6SyLX3QMFQRkrl8a2OnmtWT6QXehAGfkA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: patrys@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.86.2 with SMTP id j2mr3099330fgb.74.1245411921156; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:45:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245411572.4341.142.camel@shizuru> References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245411572.4341.142.camel@shizuru> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:45:21 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a2b5e1bb7e6dc719 Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0906190445v328590acnb831d99712b19969@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Patryk Zawadzki To: Josselin Mouette Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list , gnome-bugsquad X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:45:41 -0000 2009/6/19 Josselin Mouette : > Le jeudi 18 juin 2009 =C3=A0 17:08 -0400, Matthias Clasen a =C3=A9crit : >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > GNOME-SESSION >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > Exits when the system D-Bus daemon restarts >> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D583345 >> > Patch available. >> >> How is this a blocker ? I know that debian thinks it is a good idea to >> restart the bus, but everybody else pretty much agrees it is crazy to >> support that... > I have yet to see a good reason to treat D-Bus differently from other > daemons. It=E2=80=99s not as if it was complicated to reconnect to the da= emon > when it is restarted. The moment the bus disappears you lose all the clients. It's easy to get into an inconsistent state or lock yourself to a defunct desktop where nothing works and you are not able to log out. --=20 Patryk Zawadzki From elle.uca@gmail.com Fri Jun 19 12:19:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728C975006E; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:19:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:50:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W9:.:?:?] (up: 5676 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W2Hd+-9I-OuK; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:19:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f207.google.com (mail-fx0-f207.google.com [209.85.220.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1147375008B; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:19:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so974465fxm.15 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:19:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N8M3NJIZzU8r69FmQQeohrLBO6kJ4Y1j3gqpk2o1VnE=; b=tnaic3W2b3ol0pJNdteK48DAbKOaRokAlCdzBj5fIKyQUPWqcG2W3exeJVlCbh0oEW kaqNZjj9+3vArZ11vGtaQ2MVf3w6GIn9jc9uSfdB9u9SKa/tdsITKsFJoz5qfv244zOc TGuLRntGXbgyRGuyymVkFjs2cFRdAaTqwR3tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xCofZiYU7i0et7ArDiaUsMAKNX8PUPLSZ8vKR/oomchaVZCYggyBGyUowUwtjggDN3 oY5NoU4q1r3QnUzTH/cH/DQQk/TGqoAA4PzQw8+Fvf2Tqq2AXs6UE/UChONLyijCCrIl xJm26NLYO558zAQuIGijeQbrjDf1p4MtrfqVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: elle.uca@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.72.15 with SMTP id k15mr2519878bkj.14.1245413951155; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:19:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:19:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1c676017bbc0815f Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Luca Ferretti To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-bugsquad , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:19:31 -0000 2009/6/18 Andre Klapper : > > ================================================ > NAUTILUS > ================================================ > nautilus flips out when show_desktop is unchecked > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571417 > A patch has been available for 6 weeks and has been confirmed to work. > Could we add this one too? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586371 Nautilus no longer use folder-visting and folder-drag-accept icons From felipe.contreras@gmail.com Fri Jun 19 12:52:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080197500D8; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:52:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 3058 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.157] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6gou5xdDb4qu; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:52:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E1E75000B; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:52:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so696664fga.10 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:52:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+sMLWDxNcAlt61zBDrgxMUeJGD69HSX9R6ntypq2mE=; b=TnbUqQeXTqua6/D/HBLQG0ams7WVjhygsL1vBzWTFsgr/+7+S7m7Iorw1Zv2klUuIF HVwECTI1luyTRzKAjLhYdcTnGy5u0CdMblzVTyiBr0MVCasCKKbiujirvf4wbtkN8A52 qfxgZMcigHS9lGc+5vjqs8maUjoQV51825XoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oS3PAJcwtMARSpSVKQ1bWdhcG/eeecwIiMZj8HiRYDBCP8xSFfUF4+ZTUPazjjx27C 40h0cBOn/Xq0xHmBcjAtYTmZ/oXgO7xtolGrGg/F17fpqXz7qCMpAsC3neuISQrRxE3o FU6c572p8mvoUcSAbJ1OYp6WcuZs1VE3snizA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.96.12 with SMTP id t12mr3153485fgb.77.1245415938282; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:52:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:52:18 +0300 Message-ID: <94a0d4530906190552k68028c5ct34ffd0aa7ccb7ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Felipe Contreras To: Luca Ferretti Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-bugsquad , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:52:40 -0000 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > 2009/6/18 Andre Klapper : >> >> ================================================ >> NAUTILUS >> ================================================ >> nautilus flips out when show_desktop is unchecked >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571417 >> A patch has been available for 6 weeks and has been confirmed to work. >> > > Could we add this one too? > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586371 > > Nautilus no longer use folder-visting and folder-drag-accept icons How about adding this one? (empathy proxy support) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=492076 Ubuntu qualifies it as "important" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/304889 Fedora has a list of blocker bugs for F12: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494985 And proxy support is one of them (although it's a specific one) http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16034 -- Felipe Contreras From sragavan@novell.com Fri Jun 19 16:40:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED992750068; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:40:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.67 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.67 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 11744 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6tEVKLQfIeNd; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:40:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57A27500A3; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:40:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:40:16 -0600 Subject: Re: GNOME Showstopper Review From: Srinivasa Ragavan To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245343569.15182.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:11:27 +0530 Message-Id: <1245429687.5451.138.camel@linux-900d> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome-bugsquad , desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:40:37 -0000 > ================================================ > EVOLUTION > ================================================ > Camel Disk summary meta bug > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543389 > Summary says it all, still a few regression bugs opened here Most of the regressions (features) were committed, but as you said, we aren't close to zero. I need to position some Maildir stuff higher prio here than the rest. I would be closing them for GNOME 2.28.0 > > Corruption of mailbox and can't expunge trash > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550414 > This has been open for 10 months and there's still no fix. There have been multiple fixes, but unfortunate that its not completely fixed. There is surely lapse somewhere, that we need to close in. > > Evolution is unusable in 800x600 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267787 > I wonder whether this is simply a WONTFIX and covered by Anjal now. We probably need to position Anjal well. Its currently in gnome git. But need to see how to position both. -Srini. From ak-47@gmx.net Sat Jun 20 14:15:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBEB750140 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:15:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.026 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.026 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, TW_BG=0.077, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:45:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W8:.:?:?] (up: 4776 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z6pNwbtkF4PR for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:15:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 190E575010E for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2009 14:15:15 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.6]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2009 16:15:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX186eBl7ro06ED+8g/uMccbYq7+AXt2xprO8h6e0ps dTFoXAfTn9hmfV Subject: GNOME 3 status update From: Andre Klapper To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:15:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.49 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:15:35 -0000 Ahoj, this is a status report refering to the aims listed at http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven . MAINTAINERS: I have listed AVAILABLE PATCHES AWAITING REVIEW. Please DO take a look if your module is listed and review/commit NOW so the changes can receive enough testing for 2.28. Statistics refer to http://www.gnome.org/~fpeters/299.html which now also covers the Mobile section, hence results can be worse than last time. ================================================================= THE PROBLEMS: What migration paths are missing? ================================================================= libgnomeui provides retrieving thumbnails of files. There is no substitute yet. This blocks * deskbar applet: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573639 * gnome-mag: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574174 * evolution: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580895 and probably many others. EggSMClient ( http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/EggSMClient ) gets copied into all apps. That's not cool but currently the way to go until Session Management support in gtk+ gets resolved: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79285 See http://blogs.gnome.org/phomes/2009/05/25/session-management-clients/ for a current list. This list is of course not complete. Also see http://live.gnome.org/LibgnomeMustDie . Feel encouraged to add your issues. ================================================================= ZERO modules with Glib-Deprecated-Symbols ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED ("Reopened") now that we also check external deps and the Mobile set: Still to do: gconf-dbus, evolution-data-server-dbus. External deps: dbus-glib, hal, libnotify, mono. PATCHES available: dbus-glib, libnotify. FIXED: farsight2, libnice, poppler. ================================================================= Officially ANNOUNCE libglade as deprecated in favor of GtkBuilder ================================================================= DONE. ================================================================= Less than 35 modules depending on libglade. ================================================================= COMPLETED. low: 25 average: 5 (dasher, gnome-media, gnome-panel, gok, zenity) complex: 2 (gnome-control-center, evolution) PATCHES awaiting review/commit: gnome-control-center, gdm, gnome-nettool, gnome-mag, gnome-media, gnome-menus, gnome-panel, gnome-session, gnome-system-tools, gtkhtml, sound-juicer, zenity, tracker. Maintainers please review/commit. ================================================================= Clear a11y plan and schedule for 3.0 ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED. See http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/BonoboDeprecation and http://mark.doffman.com/index.php/2009/04/29/accessibility-30/ . Willie Walker might post a follow-up about the progress made. ================================================================= Less than 12 modules depending on libgnome ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED (Progress compared to 2.27.1: 22->15). low: 10 average: 4 (Evolution, gnome-media, yelp, anjuta) complex: 1 (gok) Please share experiences and knowledge at http://live.gnome.org/LibgnomeMustDie . ================================================================= Less than 12 modules depending on libgnomeui ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED (Progress compared to 2.27.1: 15->12). low: 9 average: 2 (Evolution-Exchange, gnome-panel) complex: 1 (Evolution) Please share experiences and knowledge at http://live.gnome.org/LibgnomeMustDie . ================================================================= ZERO modules dependening on gnome-vfs ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED (Reopened): average: 1 (gst-plugins-base) ================================================================= Gtk-Deprecated-Symbols ================================================================= low: 8 average: 7 (gnome-control-center, evolution, gedit, metacity, glade3, gconf-dbus) complex: 2 (gnome-games, gnome-media) PATCHES awaiting review/commit: gnome-control-center, gedit, metacity, yelp, glade3, policykit-gnome. Maintainers please review/commit. ================================================================= Evolution-Data-Server must be migrated to D-Bus by default ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED. Evolution schedule currently discussed. Git branch at http://git.gnome.org/cgit/evolution-data-server/log/?h=dbus ================================================================= WebKit status report for 2.27.5 ================================================================= IN PROGRESS. WebKitGTK+ has been proposed as an external dependency. See http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-June/msg00047.html ================================================================= Evolution to get rid of Bonobo by 2.27.3 ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED and postponed for 2.29.1. See http://www.go-evolution.org/KillBonobo . Git branch at http://git.gnome.org/cgit/evolution/log/?h=kill-bonobo Testing and reporting bugs is HIGHLY welcome. See http://mbarnes.livejournal.com/2606.html ================================================================= Complete migration from HAL to DeviceKit-* by 2.27.3 ================================================================= NOT COMPLETED. According to "jhbuild rdepends hal --direct" the following modules still depend on HAL: * brasero: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581742 * cheese: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583640 * gnome-power-manager FIXED: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565867 ================================================================= More important stuff to take a look at: ================================================================= Not yet covered in the stats but required to fix are also: * GTK+/GLib Single includes: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/CleanupGTKIncludes and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563413 To Do: gdm, gail PATCHES awaiting review/commit: gnome-mag, gtksourceview * GSEAL: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585391 To Do: A lot. Developers please start taking a look at this. * LibSexy deprecation: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/DropLibsexy To Do: Vino PATCHES awaiting review/commit: anjuta, tracker, PolicyKit-gnome Nice to fix: * Adding Introspection support: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585444 Please see http://blogs.gnome.org/racarr/2009/06/07/making-your-library-introspectable/ * AM_SILENT_RULES / shave bugs: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/NicerBuilds * Porting to PolicyKit 1.0 PATCHES awaiting review/commit: gdm, gconf, gconf-editor, gnome-applets, gnome-panel, gnome-session -andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Sat Jun 20 14:30:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B87750112 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:30:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BG=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 11879 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VemD8quHH5FG for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:30:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD98F75010D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so960826ywj.63 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=T5gxAz7k5uA6z8dF+51Cbgzu7eh4+axtLh9mGln0IQk=; b=DqqjZkL6+t4RNtgDHRGMVyCR0yaXXQJ7b6hbiCueJ3bXOQhi4OJBlghCvEwW5lJgCU OnaJbeVa/DPyelkXkVMV2ohZNwaT/GqawL229gwl3sf2tpStqY//jLF/OGuyRCbb5PFB mBqWMEmpaC3oikL50EaoVMdvYBVcMxqW+xIM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dNWeTW04r9rW05Q+5tMp6QJsXCXVoEs86y2N73xJxIwoWU/VRQCtAehkfDw8IqweaO n+AlcgFIUtfcyaCku9FqUZo33VJIahjoWl4PQZqTdToMLhlNgbzrhVbK8EVQhEaIMw8o yGIG+Yo6reHNZOMUL3Unj6bv5I07Vpmdh6VSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.69.9 with SMTP id w9mr7766314ybk.29.1245508204189; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:30:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Matthias Clasen To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:30:21 -0000 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Ahoj, > ================================================================= > THE PROBLEMS: What migration paths are missing? > ================================================================= > libgnomeui provides retrieving thumbnails of files. > There is no substitute yet. Retrieving of thumbnails is covered in gio/gvfs with the file attributes thumbnail::path thumbnail::failed preview::icon What is not covered is creation of thumbnails, for which we probably have to wait for the outcome of the 'thumbnailing service' ideas that are being floated... Matthias From hadess@hadess.net Sat Jun 20 14:46:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8693D750111 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:46:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.837 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.837 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.762, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 1659 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZUB5nUA3TJdJ for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:46:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0785575010D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:46:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5KEkRYE009246; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:46:27 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5KEkQbB006375; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:46:27 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.60] (vpn-12-60.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.60]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5KEkPU2005491; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:46:25 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Bastien Nocera To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:46:24 +0100 Message-Id: <1245509184.26486.4336.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:46:44 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > ================================================================= > ZERO modules dependening on gnome-vfs > ================================================================= > NOT COMPLETED (Reopened): > average: 1 (gst-plugins-base) This is really a WONTFIX. Distributors shouldn't be shipping it anyway, as it would take over GIO for file reading, and fail miserably for any resources that require authentication (say, sftp or smb). From mbarnes@redhat.com Sat Jun 20 16:33:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BB750112 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:33:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.018 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.581, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 1677 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lgQl5Jq8cLxP for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:33:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9553D75010D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:33:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5KGXKNq030007 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:33:20 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5KGXJDb018341 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.89] (vpn-12-89.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.89]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5KGXIXn016693 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:33:19 -0400 Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Matthew Barnes To: desktop-devel-list In-Reply-To: References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hJvTXbhzRBqlDZZUnr+T" Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:33:18 -0400 Message-Id: <1245515598.32068.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:33:35 -0000 --=-hJvTXbhzRBqlDZZUnr+T Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 10:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > What is not covered is creation of thumbnails, for which we probably > have to wait for the outcome of the 'thumbnailing service' ideas that > are being floated... Is GnomeDesktopThumbnailFactory recommended for the interim? Matthew Barnes --=-hJvTXbhzRBqlDZZUnr+T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAko9D0sACgkQwxelusg+xO01jgCgwtUQuhi3EUQSI5SRX68esfcJ uQsAn0JjqwFwwUdIQ9bg/5Mo4evQVzXo =lbqF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hJvTXbhzRBqlDZZUnr+T-- From awalton@gmail.com Sat Jun 20 16:43:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145A375010D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:43:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1062 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ee07NBpIqci1 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5446750111 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so2732432ewy.15 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6zsBEvQpidwuJ8stqse3XiXPh9osjNbDnmOk2QtOiT8=; b=k6z3nQ0d9NoAXKPUk1J3A7znjO1B9ToBKR6ul/WT8CkGy+aYD3htYlOlltKfBT4C+s LxESYx0S0BmXwZO+3Z9ien0z2CbqJgqt3C4OmStZZaVH3myME1boV+U0kLUJxKI677Kk Fm6MOi7apWO9hpIVuNut+dolEvUPsgWMczDr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BfLrDXFVEYS72IEv34bEVEqk7U/ix0QURlTI6kzOo7O9HhVxHqVqA0+hr97bHpx7sE WQvuQ7nh+2jKOC6O/MtCagNJ0JA4uBWAWsXW9o0Iv9ztyg5npL5cHvgbAuLVnntgPeMU YkEwloFxrRdIK1KRzIikFPIxp1CR/sKtCCqUA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: awalton@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.8.209 with SMTP id 59mr1516238wer.18.1245516193312; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245515598.32068.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245515598.32068.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:43:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d0b19b50f0568fbb Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: "A. Walton" To: Matthew Barnes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:43:32 -0000 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 10:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> What is not covered is creation of thumbnails, for which we probably >> have to wait for the outcome of the 'thumbnailing service' ideas that >> are being floated... > > Is GnomeDesktopThumbnailFactory recommended for the interim? I believe the code was moved to gnome-desktop and updated there to get away from the last libgnome(ui) dependency that Nautilus would otherwise have. But it seems that it is the only other choice library-wise at this time. -A. Walton > > Matthew Barnes > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list From hub@figuiere.net Sat Jun 20 17:28:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92014750130 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:28:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (NAT!) (up: 1368 hrs), (distance 16, link: pppoe (DSL)), [76.10.128.32] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSEmm694LfFD for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:28:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from homer.figuiere.net (gw.figuiere.net [76.10.128.32]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE637750111 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grinch.figuiere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homer.figuiere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA48EA9826; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A3D1C2B.30104@figuiere.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:28:11 -0400 From: Hubert Figuiere User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090513 Fedora/3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andre Klapper Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:28:29 -0000 On 06/20/2009 10:15 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > * GSEAL: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585391 > To Do: A lot. Developers please start taking a look at this. GSEAL has a few outstanding bugs open that make its use impossible. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562937 To me that one is a show stopper. Non withstanding the fact that some very common accessors like gtk_widget_get_window() are 2.14 only which is a very big annoyance for people we who / need to maintain compatibility with older version (look at what some enterprise distro or devices ship, like SLED10, RHEL4, Maemo). Hub From ak-47@gmx.net Sat Jun 20 19:07:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09915750111 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:07:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.18 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.18 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:45:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W8:.:?:?] (up: 4781 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id epxcPHRf+v7u for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:06:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15E2675010D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:06:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2009 19:06:43 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.6]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2009 21:06:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lyfgnPpqlnS+xE5u+8PrN4VrnsoPCadI/nLp4Q7 PwxlTJKebupnbo Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Andre Klapper To: desktop-devel-list In-Reply-To: <4A3D1C2B.30104@figuiere.net> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A3D1C2B.30104@figuiere.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:06:43 +0200 Message-Id: <1245524803.19697.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.58 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:07:03 -0000 Am Samstag, den 20.06.2009, 13:28 -0400 schrieb Hubert Figuiere: > On 06/20/2009 10:15 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > > * GSEAL: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585391 > > To Do: A lot. Developers please start taking a look at this. > GSEAL has a few outstanding bugs open that make its use impossible. > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562937 > > To me that one is a show stopper. Thanks a lot for bringing this up! I agree. A statement of the gtk+ folks about their commitment to their GSEAL plans would not hurt. > Non withstanding the fact that some very common accessors like > gtk_widget_get_window() are 2.14 only which is a very big annoyance for > people we who / need to maintain compatibility with older version (look > at what some enterprise distro or devices ship, like SLED10, RHEL4, Maemo). I can see several options here: * This is a problem of those older distros and upstream gtk+ does not need to care about it * If'def a lot of code in the affected modules * Introduce those API additions to upstream gtk+ 2.12.x and publish a 2.12.13 tarball andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Sat Jun 20 20:39:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD09750172 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:39:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 4899 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.217.213] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CbBQ8dcz7p+Y for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:39:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-gx0-f213.google.com (mail-gx0-f213.google.com [209.85.217.213]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E16975016D for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so3606617gxk.15 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kzD/I9/GFf3SpdT8kdP3HXwgOper/AXk3hmrXTVl26E=; b=DsAijOF+53HrxrHSH/gcVYrWx1hP+nEnbRSBiW+aaqGUIv0Yzo1DF85YAv9+rbTzW+ MIRsHS9+4ZUmEdpwYTtad3OUNIhZyOvmqRpp8vTtrjLKKXSF43aanmf6/w97BegDNECn CkRbqy2+f8J3QJ7w0AtfCCG6QpWzwPSLv31u0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uIK+c36i4fPLUrZWz9aP1EMAvBMQxGto7G/BJ38cet+sZKDGmmxlPk0ChHZzzT3zh0 Rn6oTACMrY623oyTHjCLUQPiDcolro4UJJZuzAjNfZNVrskoEJMUftQs81kQYCLhQqtf np/Gjgq1MNlR3J7A3uP8tJj4Tx86+V/xwqSSk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.144.13 with SMTP id w13mr8223163ybn.281.1245530339888; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:38:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1245524803.19697.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A3D1C2B.30104@figuiere.net> <1245524803.19697.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:38:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Matthias Clasen To: Andre Klapper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:39:16 -0000 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > I can see several options here: > =A0 =A0 =A0* This is a problem of those older distros and upstream gtk+ d= oes > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0not need to care about it > =A0 =A0 =A0* If'def a lot of code in the affected modules > =A0 =A0 =A0* Introduce those API additions to upstream gtk+ 2.12.x and > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0publish a 2.12.13 tarball No, GTK+ 2.12 is a stable (in fact, even a dead) branch at this point, that we are not going to open up for new API at this point. The idea of stable branches in GTK+ is that you can rely on the fact that if it built against 2.x.y, it will also build and work against 2.x.z with z < y. Nevermind that enterprise distros are unlikely to follow such an unprecedented stability-breaking late release anyway... Matthias From nearyd@gmail.com Sun Jun 21 10:04:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF5C750095 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:04:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1237 hrs), (distance 15, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sZtAiU41EaJR for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:04:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721BD750169 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:04:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so3039412ewy.15 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=udqsmJYQ5ewSRbt5szVThVNp/dh/yKS2Xv6wo4q3txM=; b=o5SmFto9OUQF+CgQ0m7luOWOb2dEfpQ0rD9K+dtQpYXoCT1VlHYd7P/cy65HBbzo3G 60VcmEAVfs55OAV9SUqJcWPWKBvcU/MMMBNtlmTZ7xkG2M4FRM6mZygpxYkcsnRkVt1J yrSUT4Noq/RgxOoO6UH53VKuOHQ3Jul3obXy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Eq7Hc1fnG1NUyuJRWwXWCxLcQ+kUGy72b/v12F13gp0r3eKlCc3HeDggGmnCx/Lu26 yi6tTv1YcDR7YJrLCZ3LCjztAmHkaAg2MXSkRLVqDttabnHMNlRWcYo0y8kqWV2pYCzO a1Bt+caPjP88j8KHfbC+Da5yC/QpkfkExYOSU= Received: by 10.210.113.19 with SMTP id l19mr3379652ebc.88.1245578641901; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.64? (mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net [88.163.116.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2359394eyz.51.2009.06.21.03.03.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Dave Neary Message-ID: <4A3E058D.5040105@gnome.org> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:03:57 +0200 From: Dave Neary Organization: GNOME Foundation User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090409) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Clasen Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A3D1C2B.30104@figuiere.net> <1245524803.19697.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:04:21 -0000 Hi, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > >> I can see several options here: >> * This is a problem of those older distros and upstream gtk+ does >> not need to care about it >> * If'def a lot of code in the affected modules >> * Introduce those API additions to upstream gtk+ 2.12.x and >> publish a 2.12.13 tarball > > No, GTK+ 2.12 is a stable (in fact, even a dead) branch at this point, > that we are not going to open up for new API at this point. The idea > of stable branches in GTK+ is that you can rely on the fact that if it > built against 2.x.y, it will also build and work against 2.x.z with z > < y. > > Nevermind that enterprise distros are unlikely to follow such an > unprecedented stability-breaking late release anyway... That all depends on what is happening right now - are people using stock 2.12, or patching 2.12 to address the issues Hub addresses? Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dneary@gnome.org From sandmann@daimi.au.dk Sun Jun 21 12:51:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA9750107 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:51:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.628 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.628 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=-0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BG=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 1086 hrs), (distance 22, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [130.225.31.129] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n8X8h5wSuHim for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:51:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nfit.au.dk (nfitmail.nfit.au.dk [130.225.31.129]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E17A750076 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: by smtp.nfit.au.dk (Postfix, from userid 6670) id 639671D2F21; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mfe04.daimi.au.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.nfit.au.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294801D2F0D; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from camel29.cs.au.dk (camel29.daimi.au.dk [130.225.16.148]) by mfe04.daimi.au.dk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5LCpNw9028505; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:23 +0200 Received: by camel29.cs.au.dk (Postfix, from userid 2079) id 2E08F37B0B9; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: sandmann@camel29.daimi.au.dk To: Matthew Barnes Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245515598.32068.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> From: Soeren Sandmann Date: 21 Jun 2009 14:51:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1245515598.32068.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NFIT-Solido-Score: 1. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.19.8.13 Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:51:42 -0000 Matthew Barnes writes: > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 10:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > What is not covered is creation of thumbnails, for which we probably > > have to wait for the outcome of the 'thumbnailing service' ideas that > > are being floated... > > Is GnomeDesktopThumbnailFactory recommended for the interim? Yes, as A. Walton said, the code was moved from libgnomeui to gnomedesktop since it is the only remaining piece of libgnomeui that doesn't have a replacement. Generally, libgnomedesktop is the place to put things that are not platform, but still should be shared among desktop components. Soren From david@fubar.dk Mon Jun 22 17:33:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250967500AC for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:33:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.422 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 4119 hrs), (distance 18, link: ethernet/modem), [128.177.28.166] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qcaz+4mIZZVZ for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:33:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zelenka.fubar.dk (128-177-28-166.ip.openhosting.com [128.177.28.166]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1287500B9 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:33:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (zelenka.fubar.dk [127.0.0.1]) by zelenka.fubar.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6960F7C3; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: David Zeuthen To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:30:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1245691850.26004.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 (2.26.1-2.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:33:40 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > ================================================================= > Complete migration from HAL to DeviceKit-* by 2.27.3 This also includes libudev/libgudev - the latter is available in udev >= 143 which was just released. > ================================================================= > NOT COMPLETED. > According to "jhbuild rdepends hal --direct" the following modules still > depend on HAL: > * brasero: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581742 > * cheese: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583640 > * gnome-power-manager FIXED: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565867 Also, gvfs needs porting but Martin Pitt is on top of this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586410 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586409 I'll review and commit Martin's patches shortly. > * Porting to PolicyKit 1.0 > PATCHES awaiting review/commit: gdm, gconf, gconf-editor, > gnome-applets, gnome-panel, gnome-session With PolicyKit 1.0, the model has changed [1] insofar that we don't need to make clients of mechanisms using PolicyKit aware of PolicyKit itself. So the port, GNOME-wise, actually only includes ripping out support for PolicyKit, in particular the libpolkit-gnome.so.0 library which is no more. There are a couple of pieces of GNOME software where we also provide our own mechanism - GConf is one of those. But with the way things work, this dependency isn't exposed in any public API, e.g. it's possible to port the GConf defaults mechanism to use another authorization framework if the OS happens to supply one. Finally, there is still a polkit-gnome project. This package contains a PolicyKit Authentication Agent (to pop up authentication dialogs when needed) and will also contain a tool to modify the local authority (not yet written but will be done before 2.28). This project does not provide any API, only said Authentication Agent and the tool. FWIW, Matthias done a great job both porting apps as well as creating / maintaining this page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne which is useful for both distributors and the GNOME project itself. I guess all this means that PolicyKit doesn't even need to be an external dependency anymore; e.g. basically no apps need to be aware it even exists. Hope this clarifies. David [1] : See http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/polkit/PolicyKit-1.8.html for more information about how this works. In particular this change means that our GNOME software is much more portable insofar that OS vendors / distributors / sites / etc. can plug in their own implementation of the Authority. From vuntz@gnome.org Mon Jun 22 18:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9627500C7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:06:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 3257 hrs), (distance 21, link: ethernet/modem), [82.240.102.222] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7IC3FZ92zDPc for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:06:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fennas.vuntz.net (fennas.vuntz.net [82.240.102.222]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4F57500A7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:06:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fennas.vuntz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0BE881126DF; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:06:26 +0200 From: Vincent Untz To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update Message-ID: <20090622180625.GZ10754@vuntz.net> Mail-Followup-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245691850.26004.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1245691850.26004.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:06:44 -0000 Hi, Le lundi 22 juin 2009, à 13:30 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit : > FWIW, Matthias done a great job both porting apps as well as creating / > maintaining this page > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne > > which is useful for both distributors and the GNOME project itself. > > I guess all this means that PolicyKit doesn't even need to be an > external dependency anymore; e.g. basically no apps need to be aware it > even exists. So do we need to migrate all of GNOME at once (ie, commit all the patches at once)? Or is it possible to have both old and new PK at the same time on the system? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. From matthias.clasen@gmail.com Mon Jun 22 18:20:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7E07500CD for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:20:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 466 hrs), (distance 14, link: (Google 2)), [74.125.46.30] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6pBsjYxO51Bt for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A83E7500AA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so1391786ywj.63 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:20:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8PRQ2Fbf+htdmYou17jKxixINkc/6E3JqGgNztjEo/g=; b=N7brJMVg6eFr/X9DaDmwCA/p7qFx1K6XJ968f1zy6U8gvqDCLi8e6ytoUd+3NpKIO1 9RSQWtpBcoDdeErEsU28L8HnwZJ9LIC7uLq6kmODc3V7xDS9gliOIAcCovjuyK/CaEYX mJuBAolaBSg4A2+adTOkBdULdW9sI6YqhkDhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S16i9D8pUODqDXYCeaM41NkX9tiYMI5rrfEyQlOmLM/gR0iC+MTLcfDcE8M6g+q8Kz 5oGHEBCMRngraWMKEtC0mkFvx73niIj7nf1O0wFmOEqL6rEJLUcIi/ge1QtRgWAofRxD Q4U+PKW01GwCft6Uel5mdXyKrIEZexnh22oKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.186.21 with SMTP id j21mr11818086ybf.66.1245694806686; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090622180625.GZ10754@vuntz.net> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245691850.26004.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090622180625.GZ10754@vuntz.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Matthias Clasen To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:20:25 -0000 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 22 juin 2009, =E0 13:30 -0400, David Zeuthen a =E9crit : >> FWIW, Matthias done a great job both porting apps as well as creating / >> maintaining this page >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne >> >> which is useful for both distributors and the GNOME project itself. >> >> I guess all this means that PolicyKit doesn't even need to be an >> external dependency anymore; e.g. basically no apps need to be aware it >> even exists. > > So do we need to migrate all of GNOME at once (ie, commit all the > patches at once)? Or is it possible to have both old and new PK at the > same time on the system? It is possible. In fact, that is what we have in rawhide currently. But we really want to have the migration completed before the release, because it just completely breaks the experience if you have two separate policies, two different policy editors, etc etc... From sragavan@novell.com Tue Jun 23 06:38:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AE27500B9 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:38:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.672 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.672 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.927, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (NAT!) (up: 28 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [137.65.250.26] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OaWPrqqsdum2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from victor.provo.novell.com (victor.provo.novell.com [137.65.250.26]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F31750085 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:38:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (prv-ext-foundry1.gns.novell.com [137.65.251.240]) by victor.provo.novell.com with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:38:17 -0600 Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update From: Srinivasa Ragavan To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org In-Reply-To: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:46:01 +0530 Message-Id: <1245730561.22908.36.camel@linux-900d> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:38:37 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Evolution-Data-Server must be migrated to D-Bus by default > ================================================================= > NOT COMPLETED. Evolution schedule currently discussed. > Git branch at > http://git.gnome.org/cgit/evolution-data-server/log/?h=dbus > > dbus-hybrid e-d-s branch has fresh addressbook port for eds using dbus. Ross had pushed that yesterday. It should move us ~50% closer towards the target, with Calendar needs to be worked upon. We are working at reviewing/testing the addressbook/dbus port and driving towards the calendar stuff. > ================================================================= > Evolution to get rid of Bonobo by 2.27.3 > ================================================================= > NOT COMPLETED and postponed for 2.29.1. > > See http://www.go-evolution.org/KillBonobo . > Git branch at http://git.gnome.org/cgit/evolution/log/?h=kill-bonobo > Testing and reporting bugs is HIGHLY welcome. See > http://mbarnes.livejournal.com/2606.html I really want the KB to be part of 2.27.x cycle, given the volume of changes and the impact it could create. Longer testing cycle would imply a stable Evolution 3.0. And so I'm preparing a proposal for this. Things should be more clear in a week's time, I guess. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2009-June/msg00018.html -Srini. From jaap.haitsma@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 07:16:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BEC7500AA for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:16:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 2937 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.212] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rrgh39ci2+Hy for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:15:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f212.google.com (mail-fx0-f212.google.com [209.85.220.212]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5CF750085 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:15:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so4264557fxm.18 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:15:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=40NlNQCH5wSRdjEU2DOkTqgfJUqLijq9CLRe4t/fU8g=; b=GzmWiO2jXtsA2VT540ccvZpwoYCPaqdDKT6c5QxUuAQ58xC35UCSBOa+OjUIqO2wg5 aS7iZoqkO8Pb2Nw9e/iwLje6O3pSY+gYngiI6XbKZS5Z/cZWXrjkT/ppGd0om8p1+gK0 7MBNFCRto6H/rFaKl/mvLhOrSVs2T6ieUzfGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tztzy42U+bJuy/t0cCw4n+NEcFPmpLvwOAayYwLydL1OBV32i1+zp1YY9QTEZrQEQg 9kBtb+CWV08Ylzx0o80AnKGlRAnJ3AQz7vkBUlpQgRhsO8B/5pTyLEF5/JWF/Pdzjlbh qxvTMXSuzHM3GPCqkc4CS+6gZXd5aSN+/AI+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jaap.haitsma@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.117.142 with SMTP id r14mr6814256bkq.197.1245741341168; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:15:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1245507314.19697.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1245691850.26004.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090622180625.GZ10754@vuntz.net> From: "Jaap A. Haitsma" Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:15:21 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 87ba4ea9f107aa07 Message-ID: <8a8adccc0906230015o2c345e91vf27fd1ab179de256@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GNOME 3 status update To: Matthias Clasen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:16:00 -0000 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 20:20, Matthias Clasen w= rote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Le lundi 22 juin 2009, =E0 13:30 -0400, David Zeuthen a =E9crit : >>> FWIW, Matthias done a great job both porting apps as well as creating / >>> maintaining this page >>> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne >>> >>> which is useful for both distributors and the GNOME project itself. >>> >>> I guess all this means that PolicyKit doesn't even need to be an >>> external dependency anymore; e.g. basically no apps need to be aware it >>> even exists. >> >> So do we need to migrate all of GNOME at once (ie, commit all the >> patches at once)? Or is it possible to have both old and new PK at the >> same time on the system? > > It is possible. In fact, that is what we have in rawhide currently. > But we really want to have the migration completed before the release, > because it just completely breaks the experience if you have two > separate policies, two different policy editors, etc etc... > _______________________________________________ Shouldn't the external dependency of policykit be bumped to 0.92 it's now a= t 0.9 Jaap From fz2018@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 16:50:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C51750085 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1785 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LjrP-9i-52lK for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A0375006F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so303958ewy.15 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:50:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9cSMhuzcBDqIpeUSOxswIWUlbnO7C7rkeL5LxNKiDvE=; b=ipDLHolWQ06GnfaRh4lkIEGQbrjNXxe3V8awgV93QCzuldEy9hM25Tc0k4sudhqtao Ur9Jf8so0EwBT9yRbcajcmmUHhixZRc30wNmf4STzt48APh+JakSe5bSOkZxQvzAgjfX VgmpFVWMoPheHjOsNtlsTxjT4CzRMASdE3SZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QXeiDV8IytpE4TOh7eBnWbVtKIO048NmJA3ydIHGXR7I9s4BCgJqr1zYWheYjDMtOG 1/LWdBjsawa6FHEeQ5swFEXo0Goin9fRo4ZpU+/sb0nTVaXei3eeEnoGEMYQSaq1J5j7 VGm/3v42ZE0OcmGOeEfK9cTDjldanT6S93isw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.195 with SMTP id k45mr80607wea.197.1245775825937; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:50:25 -0600 Message-ID: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: How to get scroll bar infromation in C? From: frank zhang To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2d28932593046d06c942 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:43 -0000 --0016e6db2d28932593046d06c942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I hope I am posting to the proper forum. Please let me know where I should post if this is not the right one. I am writing a program in C and encounter a problem. I want to get the scroll bar information for an existing application such as a text file or a webpage opened in GNOME desktop. 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--0016e6db2d28932593046d06c942-- From patrys@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 17:51:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C0375006F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:51:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:50:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W9:.:?:?] (up: 6692 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJUqPrJMpsbn for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f207.google.com (mail-fx0-f207.google.com [209.85.220.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5467501D6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:51:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so246214fxm.15 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AI8rnIfBakZdrwzW6/GGgnVm9ytacOFbTr9vrWO1O9Y=; b=FzdZKbs4r68jyQt5xfzB6g+zhdzuuPKtwKWaPyHLf1qy9iJN7c2gj6G5+sTOYtRpU/ G0OUMTdyHSLOJ7CL3TRSk1T762C+EphOTuhtwKxWprJXNiI91hQWY+feMuD9qRufqa9R pyK2k7a7jSq/FEDBPY1BAytpfLwwmxg/LKL0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NLh8o5+IUC5sAesQ30p6LzgnMLtPSimV198xeq8baYOmGnRZOMtmrFp88uli1XwJBg 4BAuSHrYqZLhOBQ/6lW6BqEbt1ns/H9dFmoAVTwmRq/Zr6pnbEaKuW5H9A88gC/b0lZN TFlZnP4D5myyCUlH04px7scm/cZCFH52+cEW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: patrys@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.36.4 with SMTP id j4mr527791fgj.63.1245779489794; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:51:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f17248658e721995 Message-ID: <89b6ba3a0906231051m110b72a1ieafc4f52b16f64d7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to get scroll bar infromation in C? From: Patryk Zawadzki To: frank zhang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:51:45 -0000 On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, frank zhang wrote: > Hello, > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I hope I am posting to the proper forum. Please = let me know where I > should post if this is not the right one. > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am writing a program in C and encounter a prob= lem. I want to get the > scroll bar information for an existing application such as a text file or= a > webpage opened in GNOME desktop. If the existing application window is th= e > currently active window and it has scroll bars, my program needs to be ab= le > to move the mouse pointer=C2=A0onto the scroll bar and scroll the content= s of the > window up/down/left/right depending on the user choice. For example, when > the user holds the 'CTRL' key and 'Right Arrow' key from the keyboard, th= e > mouse pointer will jump from the current position to the middle of > horizontal scroll bar and the window contents=C2=A0scroll to the right. > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Could anyone shed some light on how to use= GNOME API or GTK+ to=C2=A0do > this? I think you're better off exploring GNOME a11y interfaces (atk). Also you might be able to get away with feeding applications with fake mouse wheel events. --=20 Patryk Zawadzki From fz2018@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 18:56:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E120750077 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:56:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1806 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pUe764wJ3lSI for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:56:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC6B7500BC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so428730ewy.15 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:56:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hfXTvkmXf57zfHRXKyYWsMVbRWgBiz56ZXhNqUD2X+w=; b=a/rd7IIpTDct9P8YSfn/AdDuQydcb1Z/3Y0Sl2OW0wxoQXxX92qXS6mnq9w0at5UzG qr09v/b0bBqRCheyK0rEt2bdz3sHUbWbS11ontkVhgh+XRoVFXnzpAy2O3F0fttZt5In HI+KUaj4WlS0huWZD/BEFgqq+sbmLxX3FDVxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nPh5HNCWjWyWk3gNrxuffe1uXxyJ7u6Fht1n/N2znqJ/e2Ytd3UrDsLGzd0EaMHov1 3p1IOBqYhviqRyl998L0bxUOlQNzNOeazC25p2EwM5ZQwYhBzSGnY7/YEsBSVeYORTrE Rqvl4lcM/F6HrrZnV7MrIt6vjUuNheosymdY8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.8.209 with SMTP id 59mr131747wer.18.1245783363982; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:56:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <89b6ba3a0906231051m110b72a1ieafc4f52b16f64d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> <89b6ba3a0906231051m110b72a1ieafc4f52b16f64d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:56:03 -0600 Message-ID: <4cd0126a0906231156r5cb1ca49vf5f1e5d44551ecc2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to get scroll bar infromation in C? From: frank zhang To: Patryk Zawadzki Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c749be09758046d088a46 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:56:21 -0000 --0016364c749be09758046d088a46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for your quick reply, Patryk. I would like to take a look at ATK. The reason I feed the application the fake mouse wheel events is because the mouse wheel usually can not scroll the window context horizontally. That is one of the main purposes of my program. I tried to use REL_HWHEEL to scroll horizontally but failed. Thanks, Frank On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, frank zhang wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I hope I am posting to the proper forum. Please let me know where I > > should post if this is not the right one. > > > > I am writing a program in C and encounter a problem. I want to get > the > > scroll bar information for an existing application such as a text file or > a > > webpage opened in GNOME desktop. If the existing application window is > the > > currently active window and it has scroll bars, my program needs to be > able > > to move the mouse pointer onto the scroll bar and scroll the contents of > the > > window up/down/left/right depending on the user choice. For example, when > > the user holds the 'CTRL' key and 'Right Arrow' key from the keyboard, > the > > mouse pointer will jump from the current position to the middle of > > horizontal scroll bar and the window contents scroll to the right. > > > > Could anyone shed some light on how to use GNOME API or GTK+ to do > > this? > > I think you're better off exploring GNOME a11y interfaces (atk). Also > you might be able to get away with feeding applications with fake > mouse wheel events. > > -- > Patryk Zawadzki > --0016364c749be09758046d088a46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for your quick reply, Patryk. I would like to take a look at ATK.= The reason I feed the application the fake mouse wheel events is because t= he mouse wheel usually can not scroll the window context horizontally. That= is one of the main purposes of my program. I tried to use REL_HWHEEL to sc= roll horizontally but failed.

Thanks,

Frank

On Tue, Jun 23, = 2009 at 11:51 AM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys@pld-linux.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, frank zh= ang<fz2018@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Hello,
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 I hope I am posting to the proper forum. Please let me kn= ow where I
> should post if this is not the right one.
>
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 I am writing a program in C and encounter a problem. I wa= nt to get the
> scroll bar information for an existing application such as a text file= or a
> webpage opened in GNOME desktop. If the existing application window is= the
> currently active window and it has scroll bars, my program needs to be= able
> to move the mouse pointer=A0onto the scroll bar and scroll the content= s of the
> window up/down/left/right depending on the user choice. For example, w= hen
> the user holds the 'CTRL' key and 'Right Arrow' key fr= om the keyboard, the
> mouse pointer will jump from the current position to the middle of
> horizontal scroll bar and the window contents=A0scroll to the right. >
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Could anyone shed some light on how to use GNOME API o= r GTK+ to=A0do
> this?

I think you're better off exploring GNOME a11y interfaces (= atk). Also
you might be able to get away with feeding applications with fake
mouse wheel events.

--
Patryk Zawadzki

--0016364c749be09758046d088a46-- From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 21:52:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8587500CB for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:52:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_DR=0.077, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1835 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4N7JGBiO7zEL for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DA77500BE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so585908ewy.15 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5Qi9VHDTF+viCaCYLMvJFGYqVaZyxlB6ZgnHgOMey4=; b=Zl1LsLrulsVqOAq5l4SPmCiUFLzOM6jMsNeCJEV7sHkxWzQNM8R1xiEjx2dl0meins TNZm2xJmTfShsWQbRdyHuwhiPIu+H6EYKvGHQGl8UnE1rv4jgyoi4ZkwAnovfNNgZg4k XiOv9XLOguUmlKBxqBgNS1OLrYoFJLlWN9OIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PCaQISyEpdWRyRe5km+x88pH4/V1MX0iz8wfwkzQs0bXI2BkwxYWooUOZZPF5yFt/e IaQVPAfQbcMTyR4n18IXuKxYeFn1IJsKh4JwoBalUF1Y1cDbw0f+aZM+NXzissBdZHPJ 8wKkq3eus8qvB1LKrQMk37CbWIZXumd+RejIY= Received: by 10.210.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr573479eba.61.1245793906844; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from behdad.behdad.org (ip-209-167-232-100-yyz.redhat.com [209.167.232.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm379338eyd.8.2009.06.23.14.51.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <4A414E43.6080307@behdad.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:50:59 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090513 Fedora/3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: desktop-devel-list Subject: Rawhide / Fedora rant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:52:04 -0000 I'm sure this is nothing new for anyone here, but thought reminding people why it's a pain to develop for Fedora may help. When I updated my laptop couple days ago: - Audio stopped working (again). Looks like kernel issue (again). Used to work last week. - X stopped starting. Removing xorg-x11-drv-ati helps, but then there's artifacts on the screen, and I guess it also causes the next issue. arlied says everything should be fixed now, but it's still not in rawhide. - Firefox stopped starting. Crashes now with glibc detected buffer overflow. Some longer-term issues: - Cannot import photos from my Canon Rebel XSi camera. gvfs-gdu-volume segfaults. Used to work with F10. - Cannot edit audio. Hard to find a version of audacity in Fedora or RPMFusion that can open *any* file I want to edit. - Cannot meaningfully edit video. Don't even say "Pitivi". So far mencoder and vim have been the way to go. Couldn't do more to get in the way of my "creative" activities. Cheers, behdad From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Tue Jun 23 21:57:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBED7500B6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:57:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.445 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_DR=0.077, TW_GV=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 1835 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.219.209] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sga61-+XlCHu for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:57:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363437500CE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:57:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so589993ewy.15 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=54pEZ79VB6CZQK33hKVGt4Fzd/fRcdfWD+ttx2f30zg=; b=ZM9JjIPkykrXqIR6oiQIEgQcnwM5PnwRJI/evGIGnCNlvelMC5tx+TcbYy+HHfBTep 9DXmFZj2poMfBBXyPLR88nrth5M5vjLoy46apE+23SYFWHF9s/5XOMB7Q86/ggUAb5O4 QgVSno66IRGAC8SRQynNx74kx1vQB1e7YA4Yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J4c8dhYVXZt22ORT8BwynJaiDW1RnIKaFvcET41yJrPRysuIHAmCv/fgNvVohkT5d8 4Ksndv2O4gaVPZFzgYbz68ZGW8jyMhomsxG8/8Um1mWOHC5Kl7cvbfn2wuhhPTbWHp89 7fkzqwSjKBSsMApn/ENJecA5zKJ22c1m4KhfQ= Received: by 10.210.86.1 with SMTP id j1mr608043ebb.29.1245794223968; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from behdad.behdad.org (ip-209-167-232-100-yyz.redhat.com [209.167.232.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm473249eyz.21.2009.06.23.14.57.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <4A414F7F.8080905@behdad.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:56:15 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090513 Fedora/3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: desktop-devel-list Subject: Re: Rawhide / Fedora rant References: <4A414E43.6080307@behdad.org> In-Reply-To: <4A414E43.6080307@behdad.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:57:12 -0000 Ouch. Did it again. This was not supposed to go to this list. Sorry everyone :(. behdad On 06/23/2009 05:50 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I'm sure this is nothing new for anyone here, but thought reminding > people why it's a pain to develop for Fedora may help. When I updated my > laptop couple days ago: > > - Audio stopped working (again). Looks like kernel issue (again). Used > to work last week. > > - X stopped starting. Removing xorg-x11-drv-ati helps, but then there's > artifacts on the screen, and I guess it also causes the next issue. > arlied says everything should be fixed now, but it's still not in rawhide. > > - Firefox stopped starting. Crashes now with glibc detected buffer > overflow. > > > Some longer-term issues: > > - Cannot import photos from my Canon Rebel XSi camera. gvfs-gdu-volume > segfaults. Used to work with F10. > > - Cannot edit audio. Hard to find a version of audacity in Fedora or > RPMFusion that can open *any* file I want to edit. > > - Cannot meaningfully edit video. Don't even say "Pitivi". So far > mencoder and vim have been the way to go. > > Couldn't do more to get in the way of my "creative" activities. > > Cheers, > behdad From hadess@hadess.net Tue Jun 23 22:07:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D77750072 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:07:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.849 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 2452 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wVHiWUPE8e9i for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A58F750096 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:07:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5NM6ueU011450; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:06:56 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5NM6tAn011975; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:06:55 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.31] (vpn-12-31.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.31]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5NM6r8U013267; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:06:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Rawhide / Fedora rant From: Bastien Nocera To: Behdad Esfahbod In-Reply-To: <4A414E43.6080307@behdad.org> References: <4A414E43.6080307@behdad.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:06:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1245794812.26486.14918.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: desktop-devel-list X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:07:14 -0000 On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 17:50 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I'm sure this is nothing new for anyone here, but thought reminding people why > it's a pain to develop for Fedora may help. When I updated my laptop couple > days ago: Wrong list (again?). From liberforce@freeside.fr Wed Jun 24 00:51:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2FA7500CE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:51:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.133 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.133 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RDNS_NONE=0.1, TW_GT=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:42:1:60:M1380, S, T, N, W8:.:?:?] (NAT!) (up: 9486 hrs), (link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [93.17.128.4] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wo9kFBJj+pzW for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:50:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (unknown [93.17.128.4]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819817500BE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4201F7000087; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:50:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (unknown [86.72.1.143]) by msfrf2116.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 22E097000081; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:50:40 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20090624005040142.22E097000081@msfrf2116.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4A417857.7030706@freeside.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:50:31 +0200 From: Luis Menina User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090319) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: frank zhang Subject: Re: How to get scroll bar infromation in C? References: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4cd0126a0906230950k5f246d37rcbb87d045f88ad32@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:51:06 -0000 frank zhang a écrit : > I hope I am posting to the proper forum. Please let me know where I > should post if this is not the right one. Hi Franck, you should instead post in gtk-app-devel-list, or gnome-love lists. See http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo Cheers, -- Luis From sergey.udaltsov@gmail.com Wed Jun 24 13:24:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2C975019D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:24:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.31 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, TW_BX=0.077, TW_IB=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 134 hrs), (distance 16, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.218.216] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-r9Z25QdrIp for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:23:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BD9750159 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:23:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so296118bwz.15 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IMivzEZxTrFwOEwpvqe83DeZOZHTiKWQKFOwIcotQnE=; b=Rs0I6OAnNiwS+/6F96m1ZSLFKenxfYhY3h5z09rkR6xIPqZCQi5vjb9CXWAbopWxYr FdVkNcwL+bh4q8fV2q+yccWTsGyYnEtRMgO5hu/1RFyV5PW6k4ASln1VPZlOX9WHCAm1 xTAVg9UkUr34+eX2+dgwCFqUnFupnYbObta7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cgq5R45MpTyhjgGUmJEQQUVSfOiM6c+pZU5bvTB+HIJ43ASNVO7NQxNKIlxI5Xo6W4 J4uCTl0inH6qu12aHVog4xLvZCekbP3Ol3uDNDTilRQjLmDh+ZmdGAzlfA2hX69c4Sur XhUyl4u79O3DAhyyuEbYKb4u1JILEsalRwKfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.114.140 with SMTP id e12mr1305816bkq.68.1245849825969; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:23:45 +0100 Message-ID: <48890e640906240623q459171beqec6599d91eda3da2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: external dependency libxklavier: request to bump the version From: Sergey Udaltsov To: GNOME Desktop Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:24:05 -0000 Hi folks Is there anyone objecting to bump the required version of libxklavier to 4.0 (to be released this week or so)? The new version is going to support new feature of xkeyboard-config - "exotic"/extra layouts (see http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21466). This caused some changes in API (can provide with more details, if someone needs). I will make sure libgnomekbd, gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon are modified accordingly. Cheers, Sergey From behdad.esfahbod@gmail.com Thu Jun 25 02:00:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27175008C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:00:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 5203 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.216.185] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cvvYSOsxhs-Q for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-px0-f185.google.com (mail-px0-f185.google.com [209.85.216.185]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510DA7502F3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: by pxi15 with SMTP id 15so1023686pxi.13 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:00:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MZCm013nF/8VffCyp/uit1VR7uq9qLX43Y899r1RSbg=; b=Wgn1UKsKFDE/nfcL/oE1KfPRsst4o7qRXA0zS7su8aNaP20XKcpNDEf9y0ydCcFqg4 2Xth+b20MEKwDa3E2A+D8YZzdhokNsUQd6VTybp6xuanPDsgodOgxi/erBYzgrp0tfVh 9JlDxQ3DjIkYxo3t08IDvrUQ+q5agQDlwUSkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LPHgl4evDUw/Gq8QY1bNffiMlpziOVmxkMY7BHTI4QP8qieF7lGw1D1uiLNYCuCwg1 ojkb76DUS1ZeIywcyX6kRlqGeOup9W1a4kPeHjD3wIQmufHQS/wpJ4JcIC0cfvDyJ1Pz 1f3uzywU5UlxTKHjDdPmnVeqrvI7vJKv/2Hig= Received: by 10.114.170.1 with SMTP id s1mr3046755wae.185.1245895227976; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from behdad.behdad.org (user130-48.wireless.utoronto.ca [142.1.130.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm3057454waf.42.2009.06.24.19.00.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Behdad Esfahbod Message-ID: <4A42DA02.9070700@behdad.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:59:30 -0400 From: Behdad Esfahbod User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090513 Fedora/3.0-2.3.beta2.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: desktop-devel-list Subject: fontconfig 2.7.0 released Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:00:51 -0000 Hi everyone! I finally released fontconfig 2.7.0. Any dependency on 2.6.99-* should be upped. Cheers, behdad From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jun 26 10:11:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE607504BC; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:11:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.765 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.765 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=0.615, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 3053 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GTwN22-STqwL; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE37750080; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5QABZoI024274; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:11:35 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5QABYAR031196; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:11:34 -0400 Received: from [10.33.0.36] (snoogens.fab.redhat.com [10.33.0.36]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5QABWDJ003037; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:11:33 -0400 Subject: gnome-user-share branch for gnome-2-26 From: Bastien Nocera To: gnome-i18n@gnome.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:12:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1246011130.4017.121.camel@snoogens.fab.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: release-team@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org, gnome-doc-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:11:51 -0000 SSIA Cheers From mike@flyn.org Fri Jun 26 20:08:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C307504F9 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:08:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 207 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [69.9.191.6] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0OcP9tq+HY5q for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zero.voxel.net (zero.voxel.net [69.9.191.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1458A75050C for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:08:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.voxel.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zero.voxel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110B60C085 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.56.81.98 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mike@flyn.org) by mail.voxel.net with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: "W. Michael Petullo" To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:08:28 -0000 Purpose: libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) content. This library is written in C using GObject and libsoup. The DMAP family of protocols are used by products such as iTunes, iPhoto and the Roku SoundBridge family to share content such as music and photos. Libdmapsharing is now hosted at SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libdmapsharing). I am interested in moving the project to the GNOME development infrastructure. Target: Developer platform Dependencies: Existing dependencies include Avahi, GLib 2.0, libsoup and zlib. Resource usage: GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME Bugzilla Adoption: Libdmapsharing packages are already provided by Fedora and Mac Ports. GNOME-ness: Complimentary to GUPnP, libdmapsharing will allow GNOME application developers to provide support for popular media sharing protocols. Libdmapsharing's use of GObject and libsoup make it a natural fit for the GNOME platform. I am willing to work with the various sub-projects on features such as internationalization. 3.0 readiness: No clear conflicts exist with the GNOME 3.0 plan. I am looking forward to working with the GNOME project to ensure libdmapsharing is fully compliant with the goals of 3.0. License: LGPL Miscellaneous: GNOME media applications such as GTHUMB are candidates for an increased feature set provided by libdmapsharing. Rhythmbox presently contains similar functionality (in fact, libdmapsharing was originally pulled from Rhythmbox's implementation), but libdmapsharing separates the code into a reusable library and adds DPAP (photo) support. Mike From ak-47@gmx.net Fri Jun 26 22:28:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281A3750335 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:28:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.103 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:45:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W8:.:?:?] (up: 698 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wim6w7zWn1Zu for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:28:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AAB375007E for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:27:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Jun 2009 22:27:51 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.5]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 27 Jun 2009 00:27:51 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+tRktSshutXmLLw9OuwqyuR8yPRJFfxq/ViQgcHj F59NRaqas1VZTG Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Andre Klapper To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:27:51 +0200 Message-Id: <1246055271.2544.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:28:11 -0000 Hi Mike, thanks for your interest in making libdmapsharing an official part of GNOME (though the proposal deadline for 2.28 has already passed). Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 16:08 -0400 schrieb W. Michael Petullo: > Purpose: > libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) > content. This library is written in C using GObject and libsoup. The DMAP > family of protocols are used by products such as iTunes, iPhoto and the > Roku SoundBridge family to share content such as music and photos. I wonder if this may interfere with other existing projects, e.g. Conduit? (Though Conduit has not seen a release since 21-Oct-2008 so I wonder how active the development currently is.) > Target: > Developer platform > > Dependencies: > Existing dependencies include Avahi, GLib 2.0, libsoup and zlib. > > Resource usage: > GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME Bugzilla These are the *planned* resources. Hmm, I see only one release tarball at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173076 so far. Mentioning because "Modules should show a steady progress" according to http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing - on the other hand there is a lot of project activity in the repo. > GNOME-ness: > Complimentary to GUPnP, libdmapsharing will allow GNOME application > developers to provide support for popular media sharing protocols. > Libdmapsharing's use of GObject and libsoup make it a natural fit for the > GNOME platform. I am willing to work with the various sub-projects on > features such as internationalization. Do user-visible strings exist? It seems there is no i18n support at all. Does API documentation (gtk-doc format?) for developers exist? > 3.0 readiness: > No clear conflicts exist with the GNOME 3.0 plan. I am looking forward to > working with the GNOME project to ensure libdmapsharing is fully compliant > with the goals of 3.0. Does it compile with make CFLAGS+="-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED" ? > Miscellaneous: > GNOME media applications such as GTHUMB are candidates for an increased > feature set provided by libdmapsharing. Rhythmbox presently contains > similar functionality (in fact, libdmapsharing was originally pulled from > Rhythmbox's implementation), but libdmapsharing separates the code into a > reusable library and adds DPAP (photo) support. Also see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=566852 . andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From hadess@hadess.net Fri Jun 26 23:16:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2390C75007E for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:16:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.838 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.684, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 3184 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OAEBXM6nJqBX for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:16:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548B975053A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:15:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5QNFpZO012450; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:15:51 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5QNFocF030149; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:15:50 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.56] (vpn-12-56.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.56]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5QNFmXp005651; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:15:49 -0400 Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Bastien Nocera To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:15:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:16:08 -0000 On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 16:08 -0400, W. Michael Petullo wrote: > Purpose: > libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) > content. This library is written in C using GObject and libsoup. The DMAP > family of protocols are used by products such as iTunes, iPhoto and the > Roku SoundBridge family to share content such as music and photos. > Libdmapsharing is now hosted at SourceForge > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libdmapsharing). I am interested in > moving the project to the GNOME development infrastructure. FYI, libdmapsharing's original code comes from the DAAP code of Rhythmbox. > Target: > Developer platform Certainly not. The protocol(s) being implemented are not open in any way, and libdmapsharing doesn't support newer versions of the protocols after Apple closed them down. > GNOME-ness: > Complimentary to GUPnP, libdmapsharing will allow GNOME application > developers to provide support for popular media sharing protocols. > Libdmapsharing's use of GObject and libsoup make it a natural fit for the > GNOME platform. I am willing to work with the various sub-projects on > features such as internationalization. Yep, except that gupnp and other providers of the UPNP protocol (such as Coherence that powers Rhythmbox' and Totem's UPNP support) rely on an open protocol. > Miscellaneous: > GNOME media applications such as GTHUMB are candidates for an increased > feature set provided by libdmapsharing. Rhythmbox presently contains > similar functionality (in fact, libdmapsharing was originally pulled from > Rhythmbox's implementation), but libdmapsharing separates the code into a > reusable library and adds DPAP (photo) support. Yes! I'd love for gthumb or any other photo app to integrate with iPhoto (does it support iPhoto, in the same way that we can't support being iTunes clients for anything beyond iTunes 6.x?). I'd approve libdmapsharing as an external dependency without any problems, not as a developer dep though... Cheers From javierjc1982@gmail.com Fri Jun 26 23:48:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50AF7500C0 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:48:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:50:1:60:M1460,S,T,N,W9:.:?:?] (up: 7471 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.220.207] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kb0098yTTEmw for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:48:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-fx0-f207.google.com (mail-fx0-f207.google.com [209.85.220.207]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A91A75007E for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:48:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so2291215fxm.15 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:48:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IQ+jSalurK58jgV2F86pgqdZacxVW0+UNpWsPNZ8qqU=; b=E984xt18pkweW/WeO/J24iJSY7LdfZ2kHiLG8ZAqOmGI4D5G6LKSi4s5bNRksOWpSq p1lCaT6Mx28hyDkqCsA868yaqzZ4WQ+ElbLGMrvxHcVVOHm02MqlfHGaI4euogJ+d7xK hQL7vTSCYuh2Aqp2ACTR3lDd4JAZGf/eVPlYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Fa+5kYIU+7yfEs7QPGgo9sjFNTr/oKi7RuUpWdT+AbzXNG4hCiZtSGCaWhys/ebUii xdNUpGfiFVleE2pErX5IH78t0x77w7oqJa8h+8iHJm15GE5W7z100zCq374YRYdgO97v Uyt7jM7jFQ0gKFPbvtgqBIYPkvRFOu7hsDDUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.77 with SMTP id l13mr3324351faq.106.1246060105381; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:48:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Add GObject Introspection Support page From: Javi To: desktop-devel-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:48:44 -0000 Hello, I've created this page [1] in the hope that it will be useful for someone. If you are interesed the tracker bug is [2]. As always, any comment/correction is always welcome ;) Best Regards [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/AddGObjectIntrospectionSupport [2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D585444 --=20 Javier Jard=C3=B3n Cabezas From john.stowers.lists@gmail.com Sat Jun 27 01:25:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E77750581 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:25:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 4550 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.216.193] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iF8645gXcx3B for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-px0-f193.google.com (mail-px0-f193.google.com [209.85.216.193]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D9D750577 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:25:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by pxi31 with SMTP id 31so284627pxi.13 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:25:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D1AC2Kqmf8Do4IhWPrOQPofk0PMk7Y1XuRQjrk366Bo=; b=W5Mq/0Vtr4LT6VwgJQLBb1okfiWprYxNMZT6Jriwe/VRl4CL5TdldWXmGXlEYbSKuH Onc8xvsdtE0gE7d7JLZgQOCVeAepyE3fbTFaJ4KT/DaAiKwaxGhtcbOvD7QYucDNI5fl fiA3u79mG4wYBzzRA8FxS1b/lYdVXAUfgBuMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=DZzkfaGmCiOZ+tuHZ0y22WWA13uZgo3eoPLOenEuZC40BYtfevJqiXz0ic1H4l2Mzp ROBWzoccvBm0Qg1WjCeqCExOAQ1/Bd+7ekUavb4d3+CjTGgtEIEcKTHhg5fDgqGgrNYL JGXz4VKM72LoSkcpnnXN5hC/K1N7xGC5VxFYk= Received: by 10.114.169.12 with SMTP id r12mr6875271wae.68.1246065900413; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? (ip-118-90-30-14.xdsl.xnet.co.nz [118.90.30.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6sm4105394wag.14.2009.06.26.18.24.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: John Stowers To: Andre Klapper In-Reply-To: <1246055271.2544.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246055271.2544.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:24:54 +1200 Message-Id: <1246065894.9029.2.camel@nzjrs-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:25:17 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 00:27 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi Mike, > > thanks for your interest in making libdmapsharing an official part of > GNOME (though the proposal deadline for 2.28 has already passed). > > Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 16:08 -0400 schrieb W. Michael Petullo: > > Purpose: > > libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) > > content. This library is written in C using GObject and libsoup. The DMAP > > family of protocols are used by products such as iTunes, iPhoto and the > > Roku SoundBridge family to share content such as music and photos. > > I wonder if this may interfere with other existing projects, e.g. > Conduit? (Though Conduit has not seen a release since 21-Oct-2008 so I > wonder how active the development currently is.) No conflict with Conduit here. Development is still active, unfortunately I have been slack at releases. Having a Ubuntu PPA has made me lazy. John From murrayc@murrayc.com Sat Jun 27 09:51:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE96F7500A8 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:51:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) (up: 638 hrs), (distance 14, link: ethernet/modem), [208.97.132.5] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CN5B-0tPvsFY for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (mailbigip.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.5]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC597501E7 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:51:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (host-88-217-185-158.customer.m-online.net [88.217.185.158]) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F208C5A8C; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Murray Cumming To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:51:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1246096273.22117.16.camel@murrayc-x61> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:51:36 -0000 On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 16:08 -0400, W. Michael Petullo wrote: > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libdmapsharing). I am interested in > moving the project to the GNOME development infrastructure. It doesn't need to be in any official GNOME release set for you to do this. -- murrayc@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com From ak-47@gmx.net Sat Jun 27 13:53:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF0C75023A for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:53:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.897 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 4944 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [213.165.64.20] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aqCx+OT2fBjV for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C406D7501ED for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2009 13:52:56 -0000 Received: from g1.blanicka25.net (EHLO [10.0.0.5]) [82.208.42.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 27 Jun 2009 15:52:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #726810 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+MaG8jd+OMXOOK62MhzUbRvf7Y9zvhUqrJxEgI08 HchC8URQ87iKY1 Subject: Re: External dependency: icontool From: Andre Klapper To: Rodney Dawes In-Reply-To: <20090610211640.GA14745@entrouvert.com> References: <1244142670.22039.10.camel@lunatari> <20090610211640.GA14745@entrouvert.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:52:55 +0200 Message-Id: <1246110775.3540.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-1.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:53:17 -0000 Hi dobey, > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > As such, I would like to have icontool be a blessed external dependency > > in GNOME 2.27+ * Please add it to http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven/ExternalDependencies * Please answer Fred's follow-up questions from June 10th. andre -- mailto:ak-47@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper From mike@flyn.org Sat Jun 27 16:30:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B3D750591 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:30:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.522 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BD=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 258 hrs), (distance 17, link: ethernet/modem), [69.9.191.6] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8nYl70vmIJN for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zero.voxel.net (zero.voxel.net [69.9.191.6]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF12750253 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:30:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.voxel.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zero.voxel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0D31AC0629 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.56.81.98 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mike@flyn.org) by mail.voxel.net with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: "W. Michael Petullo" To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:30:52 -0000 >> Purpose: >> libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) >> content. [...] > FYI, libdmapsharing's original code comes from the DAAP code of > Rhythmbox. Yes (I stated this later in my original email). >> Target: >> Developer platform > Certainly not. The protocol(s) being implemented are not open in any > way, and libdmapsharing doesn't support newer versions of the protocols > after Apple closed them down. Fair enough. Though this may or may not be enough to make libdmapsharing a hard requirement for GNOME, I feel the library still adds enough value to be tightly coupled with GNOME. As I stated, I am especially interested in moving libdmapsharing from SourceForce to GNOME's infrastructure to increase collaboration with other GNOME projects. I think it is important to quantify your statement that "libdmapsharing doesn't support newer versions of the protocols." For example, dmapd, which uses libdmapsharing, happily shares music and videos with the latest version of iTunes and Roku's SoundBridge, even transcoding OGG Vorbis files on the fly using GStreamer. Dmapd will also share photos with the most recent version of iPhoto. So, while there may be difficulty with a subset of functionality, most features work, especially on the server side. I believe the main point of contention is that DRM content purchased from the iTunes store may not be played using the client-side libdmapsharing code. It may be worth noting that the iTunes store has been somewhat moving away from DRM content. In the interest of disclosure, I do not own any DRM-protected music. Anything that is not DRM-protected should play. [...] >> Miscellaneous: >> GNOME media applications such as GTHUMB are candidates for an increased >> feature set provided by libdmapsharing. Rhythmbox presently contains >> similar functionality (in fact, libdmapsharing was originally pulled >> from Rhythmbox's implementation), but libdmapsharing separates the code >> into a reusable library and adds DPAP (photo) support. > Yes! I'd love for gthumb or any other photo app to integrate with iPhoto > (does it support iPhoto, in the same way that we can't support being > iTunes clients for anything beyond iTunes 6.x?). > I'd approve libdmapsharing as an external dependency without any > problems, not as a developer dep though... This would be completely satisfactory to me. If I may ask the list, what is the process for getting a project accepted into the GNOME infrastructure? In response to Andre, I've made several releases of libdmapsharing in the last few months. The fact that there is only one tarball is more of a reflection of SourceForge. If anyone would like to review the progress of the project, I would encourage them to browse the SourceForge SVN repository. Thanks. Mike From hadess@hadess.net Sat Jun 27 16:46:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F2A75021F for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:46:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.139, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_BD=0.077, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 3359 hrs), (distance 18, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59Em34LSSN8E for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:46:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D494750213 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:46:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5RGkDhd027541; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:46:13 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5RGkCHZ012127; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:46:13 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.81] (vpn-12-81.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.81]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5RGkBMb007622; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:46:11 -0400 Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Bastien Nocera To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: References: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:46:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1246121170.2856.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:46:38 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 12:30 -0400, W. Michael Petullo wrote: > >> Purpose: > >> libdmapsharing is a library to access and share DMAP (DAAP & DPAP) > >> content. [...] > I think it is important to quantify your statement that "libdmapsharing > doesn't support newer versions of the protocols." For example, dmapd, > which uses libdmapsharing, happily shares music and videos with the latest > version of iTunes and Roku's SoundBridge, even transcoding OGG Vorbis > files on the fly using GStreamer. Dmapd will also share photos with the > most recent version of iPhoto. So, while there may be difficulty with a > subset of functionality, most features work, especially on the server > side. > > I believe the main point of contention is that DRM content purchased from > the iTunes store may not be played using the client-side libdmapsharing > code. It may be worth noting that the iTunes store has been somewhat > moving away from DRM content. In the interest of disclosure, I do not own > any DRM-protected music. Anything that is not DRM-protected should play. No, the main problem isn't the DRM. I don't think anyone expect applications based on libdmapsharing to be able to play DRM'ed music or videos. The problem I'm mentioning is the inability to connect (as a client) to anything newer than iTunes 6.x. > > I'd approve libdmapsharing as an external dependency without any > > problems, not as a developer dep though... > > This would be completely satisfactory to me. Being accepted as an external dep would mean having something in the GNOME desktop that depends on your library. So you should get started on implementing that gthumb idea. Porting rhythmbox' code to use libdmapsharing would also be a good idea, though Rhythmbox isn't in any GNOME release. > If I may ask the list, what > is the process for getting a project accepted into the GNOME > infrastructure? http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing > In response to Andre, I've made several releases of libdmapsharing in the > last few months. The fact that there is only one tarball is more of a > reflection of SourceForge. If anyone would like to review the progress of > the project, I would encourage them to browse the SourceForge SVN > repository. Nothing is stopping you from moving libdmapsharing to the GNOME resources such as git or Bugzilla. Cheers From pierreluc.beaudoin@gmail.com Sat Jun 27 20:06:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3239B7500F7 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:06:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.439 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_BD=0.077, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 4670 hrs), (distance 13, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.221.177] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VnwSDyL+j8jz for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:06:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4C57501B9 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:05:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so2550706qyk.13 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=JM6be4hZQ4dLEGUcTQDOMyxRKl1JgIiV20RZ/x6xJkg=; b=Czlr7jgKkKB8/BWL/vpCKIPXsxJ3K99Fphf6WSoJ+PaEpzHGFsKfTreLiAaZ/6NlIS H87JOemqQjBO1EX9h1ggtwZFptWNTWsa0d6xmc75ktsmu+g3zoG2SfmAHvlyd8jC6qWQ 9bGso5nzgOBvnX9R09O2olECIskYFrvVdiySI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=eKbaCeLwwotK6S346MikoWe8kZHLYzfXSjR+Geu5rVM/sQ9CzHm9VjlCeLIRhxj3CD uHVKCPK9/C9+YQtYFZCuSzW029QDawHGIqL9sijYlighW/uBOanrxjDHVdaL8U2CydAX PSOn7D9M6aEpA9Y66I3gQnOaXSILYua1v10SI= Received: by 10.224.74.19 with SMTP id s19mr323954qaj.325.1246133154486; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.199? (227-76-252-216.dsl2.colba.net [216.252.76.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm11102966qwb.50.2009.06.27.13.05.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Pierre-Luc Beaudoin Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Pierre-Luc Beaudoin To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: References: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-r9dHpXzLK1IlBDyN87dq" Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:05:53 -0400 Message-Id: <1246133153.5738.8.camel@beryllium.collabora.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:06:12 -0000 --=-r9dHpXzLK1IlBDyN87dq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 12:30 -0400, W. Michael Petullo wrote: >=20 > This would be completely satisfactory to me. If I may ask the list, > what is the process for getting a project accepted into the GNOME > infrastructure? Bugzilla, see "To add a project to the bugzilla database" in http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/ForMaintainers For git, see http://live.gnome.org/Git/NewRepository For the wiki, create a new page on http://live.gnome.org For the web space, see the note at the bottom of : http://projects.gnome.org/ (and mentally replace SVN by git hehe). For a mailing list, see http://live.gnome.org/NewListRequest Those are all available, even if your project is not yet an official Gnome module. Hope this helps, Pierre-Luc --=-r9dHpXzLK1IlBDyN87dq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpGe58ACgkQoUSTj07fu7A1sACghCeKsg+HWvKH5759KDnT/RT2 WdwAniXTVfwnd2nlvmB6riKR4x8RB2fR =PxWG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-r9dHpXzLK1IlBDyN87dq-- From hadess@hadess.net Sat Jun 27 20:54:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3066F75007B for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:54:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.302 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.302 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.137, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_BD=0.077, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 3400 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IeLBWG7OaIT9 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:54:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BEB7500C4 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5RKsBV7008194; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:54:12 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5RKsBbW011412; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:54:11 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.81] (vpn-12-81.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.81]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5RKs9pP003149; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:54:10 -0400 Subject: Re: New module proposal: libdmapsharing From: Bastien Nocera To: "W. Michael Petullo" In-Reply-To: <1246121170.2856.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246058147.26486.21992.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1246121170.2856.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:54:08 +0100 Message-Id: <1246136048.2856.641.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:54:48 -0000 On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 17:46 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 12:30 -0400, W. Michael Petullo wrote: > > If I may ask the list, what > > is the process for getting a project accepted into the GNOME > > infrastructure? > > http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing > > > In response to Andre, I've made several releases of libdmapsharing in the > > last few months. The fact that there is only one tarball is more of a > > reflection of SourceForge. If anyone would like to review the progress of > > the project, I would encourage them to browse the SourceForge SVN > > repository. > > Nothing is stopping you from moving libdmapsharing to the GNOME > resources such as git or Bugzilla. Never parsed a question that badly, thanks Pierre-Luc for answering the question properly :) From mbarnes@redhat.com Mon Jun 29 16:52:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D8775006E for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:52:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.951 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.951 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=1.494, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, TW_BX=0.077, TW_IB=0.077] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (NAT!) (up: 3839 hrs), (distance 13, link: GPRS, T1, FreeS/WAN), [66.187.237.31] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fk30ry1n2raq for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:52:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.redhat.com (mx2.redhat.com [66.187.237.31]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882C1750265 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (int-mx2.corp.redhat.com [172.16.27.26]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TGpgaf012434 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:51:42 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx2.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5TGpgP0007282 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:51:42 -0400 Received: from [10.11.12.5] (vpn-12-5.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.5]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TGpfeK007988 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:51:41 -0400 Subject: Minimum version bump for libxml2 From: Matthew Barnes To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-TzxH601wHqgo7fbv+WRc" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:51:41 -0400 Message-Id: <1246294301.28228.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.27.26 X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:52:24 -0000 --=-TzxH601wHqgo7fbv+WRc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Requesting the minimum version for libxml2 be bumped to 2.7.3 in order to take advantage of the new element traversal functions which make XML parsing slightly less painful: xmlChildElementCount xmlNextElementSibling xmlFirstElementChild xmlLastElementChild xmlPreviousElementSibling Version 2.7.3 was released in January. Matthew Barnes --=-TzxH601wHqgo7fbv+WRc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpI8RkACgkQwxelusg+xO2dbwCgj56T+kv3IoLENZEQfb7eJHPj A8sAnAqxHqxJRF9sfFh7C0fsoOb9EcBn =C4wi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-TzxH601wHqgo7fbv+WRc-- From cool.sumitc@gmail.com Tue Jun 30 08:55:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299F97502DC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:55:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.798 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:51:1:60:M1460, S, T, N, W9:.:?:?] (up: 11461 hrs), (link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.210.180] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uONemOvtOMYG for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com (mail-yx0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FAE7502E3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: by yxe10 with SMTP id 10so2321675yxe.13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:54:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=a1luwLfHSwkyxZEn5thGjgJZMWpX8LHcUE1n9ECFnOM=; b=KVrioehOwL8/TXS8107SXaKWOtCo2KcLak22VBM3xz0L+g9UioqTwpFG5zpz4B+4ak QcmsY+uryVRXhbGiGSqb5kxhtrxk5hWBIjnwEqeq4tnQm3U1l3Et9GR1oI9v+UztN4MO lRJ2KbYRICjLb0NfZUVBInUDSQrhxET3dOQgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=UvumiJESy4OOVfT/ge5oX7qWhP5vsJa3bJGy5/NeOCbUBN5q3RJ0t7Gr9+7qsMFXzC PgMuGdeIEJiOWCPDWOKCGeup10LszSdlWL5uynL6eJ3ZkLZzvpEYnNa2+is2/tDNg8AZ Z8LIgFtg3G3r8iqh5yU+ReC14C7bBt86AKqHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.120.17 with SMTP id s17mr7093631agc.12.1246352085228; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Sumit Chakraborty Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:24:25 +0530 Message-ID: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362837524e26f8046d8cf54c X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:55:08 -0000 --0016362837524e26f8046d8cf54c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users permission. Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance regarding how I may proceed to create this application. Any help from creators of a similar application is welcome. Regards Sumit Chakraborty --0016362837524e26f8046d8cf54c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi
I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from gnome-look.org and change the desktop wa= llpaper with the users permission. Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want som= e guidance regarding how I may proceed to create this application. Any help= from creators of a similar application is welcome.

Regards
Sumit Chakraborty
--0016362837524e26f8046d8cf54c-- From frank@openDesktop.org Tue Jun 30 09:18:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9D97502FD for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) (up: 3906 hrs), (distance 19, link: ethernet/modem), [80.190.241.68] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Ubp+xS26lQn for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s2.hive01.com (s2.hive01.com [80.190.241.68]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD97502ED for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p4fd2665d.dip.t-dialin.net ([79.210.102.93] helo=[192.168.2.117]) by s2.hive01.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLahz-0000sy-E3; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:05 +0200 From: Frank Karlitschek To: Sumit Chakraborty In-Reply-To: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <1904A719-5A99-4A40-B1B0-D0C840F1B156@openDesktop.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:17:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:18:32 -0000 Hi Sumit, this is a good idea. I=B4m the maintainer of gnome-look.org. You can access the wallpapers and the other contents of gnome-look.org =20= via the open collaboration services API. = http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-services= Please contact me if you need some help. :-) Cheers Frank On 30.06.2009, at 10:54, Sumit Chakraborty wrote: > Hi > I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from =20 > gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users =20 > permission. Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance =20 > regarding how I may proceed to create this application. Any help =20 > from creators of a similar application is welcome. > > Regards > Sumit Chakraborty > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Frank Karlitschek frank@openDesktop.org From rodrigo@gnome-db.org Tue Jun 30 09:26:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD71750293 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_UNKN=0.8] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: UNKNOWN [S4:48:1:48:M1460,N,W9:.:?:?], (link: ethernet/modem), [74.208.4.194] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vi5pWNkDBStj for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AAD750106 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (211.Red-80-59-90.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.59.90.211]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1MLZbY3tPh-000CFl; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:26:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer From: Rodrigo Moya To: Sumit Chakraborty In-Reply-To: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:26:16 +0200 Message-Id: <1246353976.4894.12.camel@cervinia> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19bcSSsE6/df7ZeeZukRFsS16Tm5UD+sUghG6B Doh4QqnP5GzBM0EQoJLS1M6i0DlGwUsQcBfzSzi9l1zItu685C pyfo+DeanGDUd/FIjW3BRDXHXkqjXM7 Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:26:43 -0000 On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 14:24 +0530, Sumit Chakraborty wrote: > Hi > I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from > gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users > permission. Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance > regarding how I may proceed to create this application. Any help from > creators of a similar application is welcome. > it might be a good idea to add this functionality to the appearance capplet (System->Preferences->Appearance) which already exists in gnome-control-center module. Not sure how, but maybe there could be a button to get new wallpapers from gnome-look.org, or just show new wallpapers along the other wallpapers directly. If you want to discuss the details, maybe you want to do it in the gnomecc-list@gnome.org mailing list. -- Rodrigo Moya From foss.mailinglists@gmail.com Tue Jun 30 09:36:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFE27500CC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:36:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (up: 5351 hrs), (distance 11, link: ethernet/modem), [209.85.222.172] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81T7G7GMAKAz for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:36:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-pz0-f172.google.com (mail-pz0-f172.google.com [209.85.222.172]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A42A750303 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:36:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so3029pzk.13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oWfM8zCKJxPXlmrkEdCt/4hetJQ19cLpyaeS9szzOo0=; b=HGNi3ZZLLUKlokUd8uxCawJHH5NnFHFy2V47CYqdA30jMDhJSZeqFgqr4gR+b8Vsjs XhYCxoYaph9vx+kQoZzTtAOwzpvtIeon0sTKi1dtwxXGDhsstvfWTeqbfAFWdvqjNGik mg9gd0c3Khd/epVKMKuH4Tfchqs9Gyuvzu/Xo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kNWrJgQn2x7MYFSNllB2MEmcvbXmPXLzr8sZeci3de+XXAke40jgmIHG4cVn4hoh27 OoLEuZBhLQ65oUV4gCPhHI5lbEyk9xv8iQdMZySnm6ojE/RL8392kKiQT67k3QVmKeUx 4PEfJ+3b+Xl5p0ZUmmYIFaLkwMUUZbZr4Z+Fs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr694144wfa.346.1246354584069; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:36:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> From: sankarshan Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:06:04 +0530 Message-ID: <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer To: Sumit Chakraborty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:36:45 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sumit Chakraborty wrote: > I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from > gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users permission. > Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance regarding how I may > proceed to create this application. Any help from creators of a similar > application is welcome. While it would be a good idea to begin with gnome-look.org, at some point in time, the application should have a feature to allow the user to add URLs to similar repositories of appropriately licensed art. For example, to begin with, if the application allows the listing of - top downloaded, thematically similar, size based classifications, it would be nice to have. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Tue Jun 30 10:26:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D596750103 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.321 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=2.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 30, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3D+HbCMAxW3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253C7500DC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5UAQL4O001487 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:34 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KM100D00Q8X3P00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:26:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-226-201.Ireland.Sun.COM ([unknown] [129.156.226.201]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KM100HHDRNOEL00@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:26:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:26:11 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer In-reply-to: <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: sankarshan Message-id: <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:54 -0000 On 30 Jun 2009, at 10:36, sankarshan wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sumit Chakraborty > wrote: > >> I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from >> gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users >> permission. >> Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance regarding how I >> may >> proceed to create this application. Any help from creators of a >> similar >> application is welcome. > > While it would be a good idea to begin with gnome-look.org, at some > point in time, the application should have a feature to allow the user > to add URLs to similar repositories of appropriately licensed art. For > example, to begin with, if the application allows the listing of - top > downloaded, thematically similar, size based classifications, it would > be nice to have. Bryan Clark, Alberto Ruiz and I talked about how the GUI might look for this (well, actually for new backgrounds via RSS feeds) a couple of years ago. I'll see if I can dig out some of the mockups that we kicked around at the time. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com OpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems From Darren.Kenny@Sun.COM Tue Jun 30 10:37:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F547500CC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:37:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.033 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=2.566, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 30, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xr94hbDtnj4g for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDCC750304 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:37:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5UAbav6003496 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:37:36 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KM100K00QPDJ700@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:37:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.156.226.192] ([unknown] [129.156.226.192]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KM100BB1S656V70@fe-emea-09.sun.com>; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:37:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:36:11 +0100 From: Darren Kenny Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer In-reply-to: <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> Sender: Darren.Kenny@Sun.COM To: Calum Benson Message-id: <4A49EA9B.2030503@Sun.COM> References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090628 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0b3pre Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:37:57 -0000 There is an applet that I've been using called Webilder, it's home page is : http://www.webilder.org/ It downloads images from flikr and webshots, and cycles it based on configuration. It's written in Python, and it builds/installs fairly ok, it's been a while since I tried it out, but you could give the latest a go... Darren. On 06/30/09 11:26 AM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 30 Jun 2009, at 10:36, sankarshan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sumit Chakraborty>> wrote: >> >>> I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from >>> gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users >>> permission. >>> Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance regarding how I >>> may >>> proceed to create this application. Any help from creators of a >>> similar >>> application is welcome. >> >> While it would be a good idea to begin with gnome-look.org, at some >> point in time, the application should have a feature to allow the user >> to add URLs to similar repositories of appropriately licensed art. For >> example, to begin with, if the application allows the listing of - top >> downloaded, thematically similar, size based classifications, it would >> be nice to have. > > Bryan Clark, Alberto Ruiz and I talked about how the GUI might look > for this (well, actually for new backgrounds via RSS feeds) a couple > of years ago. I'll see if I can dig out some of the mockups that we > kicked around at the time. > > Cheeri, > Calum. > From arclnx@gmail.com Tue Jun 30 11:31:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C6D7500CC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) (up: 1843 hrs), (distance 15, link: (Google 2)), [72.14.220.157] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zt5C91Xn82T6 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1D7750103 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:30:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so23737fgb.10 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XYEo3OdBElr3xdOSx8/6XS7P1YnBFEUdzNlMDZLi5xw=; b=tD+OcNHtYa/xQvQ69X3mHmyFEDA8Qtnar/cC1B3GDpxEBepWzcTdj/86gWtMVenBff ClM1EvxhK4kD7r29ywyD8Y9uiFTe2uzUeKUSsb3YUQBLvhD+HDEwsYdz2JvTKOMDNT8i 5nqAs7HIZZ310XhuiMmTrqZU1akTCBMsEWZPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VGTsmUNdLbZhD+aAPepHS8Lcy8FJOGvOsqe6529mXwJ6AcJG/oK44JVirTgidCRKOS sg0nE0a+FeY2rKk2yLrxpyQkfS84k4BnJ0yhJ6g6MlAHEIx821Q/PcBGPUXjvgafGXjB BFMGNpA7XB1mDjuGKV9Ucr+hYZ3E+Wb8J8Ez4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: arclnx@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.25.10 with SMTP id 10mr2996539fgy.44.1246361456483; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:30:56 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb03a924061423ea Message-ID: <46c5a0950906300430u18b8e2c9g3113572deaa09b30@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer From: Alberto Ruiz To: Calum Benson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:17 -0000 2009/6/30 Calum Benson : > > On 30 Jun 2009, at 10:36, sankarshan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sumit Chakraborty >> wrote: >> >>> I want to create an application that will get new wallpapers from >>> gnome-look.org and change the desktop wallpaper with the users >>> permission. >>> Since I am a newbie to Gnome, I want some guidance regarding how I may >>> proceed to create this application. Any help from creators of a similar >>> application is welcome. >> >> While it would be a good idea to begin with gnome-look.org, at some >> point in time, the application should have a feature to allow the user >> to add URLs to similar repositories of appropriately licensed art. For >> example, to begin with, if the application allows the listing of - top >> downloaded, thematically similar, size based classifications, it would >> be nice to have. > > Bryan Clark, Alberto Ruiz and I talked about how the GUI might look for t= his > (well, actually for new backgrounds via RSS feeds) a couple of years ago. > =A0I'll see if I can dig out some of the mockups that we kicked around at= the > time. Actually I managed to do an app some time ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DreB9TNRQ1Bg Unfortunately I missed that code when I lost my laptop in GUADEC 2007 :( > > Cheeri, > Calum. > > -- > CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer =A0 =A0 =A0 Sun Microsystems Ireland > mailto:calum.benson@sun.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0OpenSolaris Desktop Te= am > http://blogs.sun.com/calum =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +353 1 819 9771 > > Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > --=20 Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz From Calum.Benson@Sun.COM Tue Jun 30 11:43:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D517502ED for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.322 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.322 tagged_above=-999 required=2 tests=[AWL=2.277, BAYES_00=-2.599, L_P0F_Unix=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Solaris 10 (beta), (distance 30, link: ethernet/modem), [192.18.6.21] Received: from menubar.gnome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (menubar.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w1rhTFfSHBji for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) by menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A73C7500CC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:42:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n5UBgsYS014415 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:42:54 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KM100F00UNBML00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from dhcp-226-201.Ireland.Sun.COM ([unknown] [129.156.226.201]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KM100HQNV7HEL40@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for desktop-devel-list@gnome.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:52 +0100 From: Calum Benson Subject: Re: Gnome Desktop wallpaper changer In-reply-to: <46c5a0950906300430u18b8e2c9g3113572deaa09b30@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Calum.Benson@Sun.COM To: GNOME Desktop Developers Mailing List Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) References: <16660c230906300154r219eef09oa7aaae07817eccea@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00906300236y7f256782y7c6365b9e6c33c8e@mail.gmail.com> <64764A35-58B8-4055-A2F2-E38F548A01A8@sun.com> <46c5a0950906300430u18b8e2c9g3113572deaa09b30@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:13 -0000 On 30 Jun 2009, at 12:30, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > Actually I managed to do an app some time ago: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reB9TNRQ1Bg > > Unfortunately I missed that code when I lost my laptop in GUADEC > 2007 :( Ouch, I remember that :/ It would probably still be nicer to do something that integrated into the Appearance capplet though, which is was what I was trying to figure out how to do with the mockups I was working on, at least. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.benson@sun.com OpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems