From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 03:54:55 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CE248C349 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 03:54:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXB00HMBXSWL910@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 From: James White To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-id: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)" Subject: [Planner] Help files? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:54:55 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance. Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation. Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good.  But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance.

Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes.  I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation.

Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me?

In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner?

--Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)-- From juhta@ida.liu.se Fri Apr 7 12:35:56 2006 Return-Path: Received: from portofix.ida.liu.se (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CB048C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mina2.ida.liu.se (mina2.ida.liu.se [130.236.176.212]) by portofix.ida.liu.se (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k37AkQKN019979 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-reply-to: planner-request's message of Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:00:02 +0200. <20060407100002.CD5C048C373@kenny.imendio.com> X-image-url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/gif/juha.gif X-Url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:26 +0200 From: Juha Takkinen X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/1380/Fri Apr 7 08:46:22 2006 on portofix.ida.liu.se X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=0.00 required=5.00 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:35:56 -0000 > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? Here's one good source: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ Best regards, /J -- Juha Takkinen PhD http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta Linkopings universitet E-mail disclaimer: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/e-mail_disclaimer.txt From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 12:42:47 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F848C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:42:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476D11E90; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18040-02; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5DF138AB; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4436449C.4080509@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:16 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] Help files? References: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> In-Reply-To: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:42:47 -0000 Hi¸ James White skrev: > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? That sounds like a bug with your distro or installation. It works in ubuntu at least :) /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 13:11:23 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C69248C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXC00H6QNK6VV90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:41 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) In-reply-to: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144408902.390.5.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)" References: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:11:23 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J. Looks good. I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner. The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough. The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit. After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems. For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3 The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe. I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem. James On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote: > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > Here's one good source: > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ > > > Best regards, > > /J --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J.  Looks good.

I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner.  The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough.  The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit.

After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems.

For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3  The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe.  I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem.

James

On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote:
> In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? 

Here's one good source:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/


Best regards,

/J
--Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)-- From mk362@mch.osram.de Fri Apr 7 13:48:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from news.osram.de (news.osram.de [62.206.58.225]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA0448C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mch.osram.de (root@feihp11.mch.osram.de [172.21.56.25]) by news.osram.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26662 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:05:53 GMT Received: from flmpc21.mch.osram.de (flmpc21 [172.21.56.180]) by mch.osram.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k37Bx2Eb019628 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:02 +0200 (METDST) Received: by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B870A17AF; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A260417A9 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Marko Kaening To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:48:30 -0000 Hi, I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a look at http://www.gantt-solution.com/ It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance to planner, dialog- and output-wise. Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? :) Marko From qheolet@gmail.com Fri Apr 7 14:22:40 2006 Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A575548C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:22:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so155475nzi for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ctp31GtksCkcigTIIBxC1eFtp1EpygqsXB23u2ojXEOrH4pSNqQgHL+mht8eWPf8LPZLzmhV2EnKmv/0rkTZbdVCZMupTBtj386G0TA0z+i6lUCiAyFaU5a5QOFN1VL2tvypIfK/59jw2leO3vtO//VvyrQFIc30O0ry8CesEsU= Received: by 10.64.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr440539qbf; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.163.14 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:33:12 -0400 From: "juan carlos duran" To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-Reply-To: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> Subject: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:22:40 -0000 I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack and the have the time enough to learn) On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com wrote: > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > planner@lists.imendio.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > From: James White > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a97= 4c90/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > ************************************** > -- -- Juan Carlos Duran From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 14:48:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts43.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.110]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B7A48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407125850.RAVH4713.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:17 -0000 Ummm? Very interesting. I wonder too. Marco, I really like the idea of linking mind mapping to a WBS. It would be great in a more intuitive working environment. And since we are talking about similarities ... it would be nice to see a column next to the WBS column where links could be added - much like M$ Indicators column. Cheers, Michael Kelly Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 14:53:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4448C370 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB1138AB for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20109-04 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B2711E90 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44366323.3040902@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:03:31 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:02 -0000 Hi, I think it's more likely that both of those look like MS Project (at least that where planners predecessor mrproject got its look from). /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 15:02:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0F48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:02:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407131259.KMOR28586.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:02:26 -0000 Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has almost been copied verbatim. The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an add on. http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Anyway, just a thought. Michael Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From friends@asktoby.com Sat Apr 8 12:26:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF4748C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:26:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B738D4744B for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.210]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 62E423F7C; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: gNOhNSpQyR1zXDgFgK6Rp1L4may67s4OoXQXpJcJNzkF 1144492628 From: "Toby Newman" To: "Planner Project Manager" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 5022 (F2.72; T1.15; A1.62; B3.04; Q3.03) References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-Reply-To: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:37:08 +0100 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:26:46 -0000 FYI There is also another OSS mindmapper: Kdissert (part of KDE). On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400, "Michael Kelly" said: > Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has > almost been copied verbatim. > > The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a > way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an > add on. > > http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Anyway, just a thought. > > Michael > > > > Marko Kaening wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a > >look at > > > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > > > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance > >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > > > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? > >:) > > > >Marko > >_______________________________________________ > >Planner mailing list > >Planner@lists.imendio.com > >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > From james@resolutionit.ca Sat Apr 8 15:22:12 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB5448C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:22:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE00KK3OAM0EC0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:45 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)" References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:13 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like: * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link * see all of the menu items on a single screen. * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going to require database storage. * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work. * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party? James Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately.

For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning.  But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager.  For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like:
  • drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list
  • context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link
  • see all of the menu items on a single screen.
  • hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list
  • have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going  to require database storage.
  • the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple
  • resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for
  • project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work.
  • plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools
The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable).  I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings.

I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager.  Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition.  Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party?

James
Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)-- From kurt@maute.us Sat Apr 8 15:46:28 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.205]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7935B48C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:46:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE008CZPF612PO@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:06 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> To: Planner Project Manager , james@resolutionit.ca Message-id: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:46:28 -0000 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 09:32 -0400, James White wrote: > Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. > > For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is > lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project > manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things > like: > * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list > * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing > link > * see all of the menu items on a single screen. > * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the > list > * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects > concurrently - which is going to require database storage. > * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple > * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop > and onsite, for example) and still be planned for > * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a > bit more work. > * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools > The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally > someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a > functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). > I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is > faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. > > I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and > better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems > like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be > written by a third-party? I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the 'nice to have' category. However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are important to us. Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. -- Kurt Maute From lincoln.phipps@openmutual.net Sat Apr 8 21:29:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED1B48C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 20110 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2006 19:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.80.47?) (hassanphipps@btinternet.com@213.122.80.47 with plain) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2006 19:39:41 -0000 Message-ID: <44381176.10709@openmutual.net> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:39:34 +0200 From: Lincoln Phipps User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> In-Reply-To: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:29:02 -0000 > > I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic > functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my > time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the > 'nice to have' category. > > > However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a > mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open > source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are > important to us. > > Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an > import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml > format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to > transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. > Ah it does ! - the Freemind software (version 0.8.0 which I use on a Windows machine) creates an XML file format. Not fully impossible thus to do a bit of XSL to a Planner format, inserting appropriate fields where they would seem to fit within Planner. They do provide some XSL files for freemind -> HTML and other examples. The cascade of nodes within Freemind (or rather mindmaps) is similar to the summary/tasks within a Project planner WBS. I actually like how Freemind kind of works as it does allow you to quickly throw in a lot of ideas and then clean them up. I use Freemind for planning the outlines of documents (it exports to HTML so I then import to OOWriter which works quite OK in OpenOffice 2.0). I then edit the document properly and ignore the mindmap outline. The same procedure *may* also work for some people with projects i.e. plan the outline in Freemind, have everyone agree the outline, and then import into Planner for the day-2-day project manager work on the project and again discard the mindmap outline. I actually do know of someone in my previous company that used Mindmaps for just about all his outlines but he then go project managers to turn that into MS Project plans. I can't volunteer right yet though I did do the Export As Planner 0.11 code so I am interested as it is an Import function which would be fun to try. Regards, Lincoln. From tomas.eroles@wanadoo.es Mon Apr 10 23:30:22 2006 Return-Path: Received: from linux.site (81-203-37-151.user.ono.com [81.203.37.151]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EA48C350 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by linux.site (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8EC86A0D8; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Eroles i Forner To: Planner Project Manager In-Reply-To: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:30:23 -0000 Hola Juan Carlos. Hace unos tres a=C3=B1os traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todav=C3=ADa = era MrProject, pero no llegu=C3=A9 a publicarlo porque ten=C3=ADa que pasarlo a DocBook y no sab=C3=ADa como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareci=C3=B3 Planner, acab=C3=A9 la asignatura para la cual hab=C3=ADa traducido el manu= al y guard=C3=A9 el documento por vete t=C3=BA a saber que CD. Si te interesa d=C3=ADmelo y te buscar=C3=A9 el documento (para el fin de s= emana podr=C3=ADa tenerlo, est=C3=A1 en formato open office 1.x) y as=C3=AD podem= os acabar de traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. Un saludo El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribi=C3=B3: > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. >=20 > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > and the have the time enough to learn) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com > wrote: > > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > > planner@lists.imendio.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > > From: James White > > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > > hasn't corrected the situation. > > > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a= 974c90/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Planner mailing list > > Planner@lists.imendio.com > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > > ************************************** > > >=20 >=20 > -- > -- > Juan Carlos Duran > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 11 14:41:04 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.201]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3F48C35A for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXK002QR6EMU8I0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 In-reply-to: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144759918.3055.30.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:41:04 -0000 On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 23:44 +0200, Tomàs Eroles i Forner wrote: > Hola Juan Carlos. > Hace unos tres años traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todavía era > MrProject, pero no llegué a publicarlo porque tenía que pasarlo a > DocBook y no sabía como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareció > Planner, acabé la asignatura para la cual había traducido el manual y > guardé el documento por vete tú a saber que CD. > Si te interesa dímelo y te buscaré el documento (para el fin de semana > podría tenerlo, está en formato open office 1.x) y así podemos acabar de > traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. > > Un saludo > > El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribió: > > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. > > > > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > > and the have the time enough to learn) We actually have a Spanish translation of the user guide created by Jordan Arribas Aranda. Filename: planner/docs/user-guide/es/planner.xml -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Sun Apr 23 20:41:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.231]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33648C373 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so747813wra for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XPdntoWB/3rpwysifkeGODmbHJIk++h2FxosXueDjDNp28LRRlQoju8GaVpklhMGoFp5Ex47xSmVCD1tD/PvthvSNm7HqrDsKerEs3pexez1uMQo7KGHlMFIEs6sZszAMTewh2ZWJdv1WcyRqc0t+t8/R2X5njhTWvdk9DYQtdY= Received: by 10.64.143.3 with SMTP id q3mr1325467qbd; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.20 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:53:23 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: planner@lists.imendio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831" Subject: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:41:26 -0000 ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner file are exported or when a file is updated. I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help with anything in my capabilities. thanks again -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.

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i noticed that it if you exp= ort to html it exports all default text in english. It is not that dificult= to translat by had, using Nvu or Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem= when more than one planner file are exported or when a file is updated.

I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can he= lp with anything in my capabilities.

thanks again
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salud
carlosdelcampo
http:/= /huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831-- From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 25 01:20:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215AA48C349 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IY900AV92P1RO20@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:49 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-reply-to: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:20:17 -0000 On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > with anything in my capabilities. Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need translated, put them in separate files by language (something like en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Tue Apr 25 01:44:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.233]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2448C370 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:44:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so1021001wra for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=io3kEu4ObZJvgKCbjruT5skuxET8vQq7WSoGwpPcOUxDy8bnSuExPNTfFFmv6g3DG7TQx0P16hunrY8ywAx1FDbbU5UGzrCcpn7DqGyPNbySxts0ZQNWa+oeIYNVlZFScWm4Tle011R43/hH6HMrveuYgX0d5lbZP5NxDfyLQPI= Received: by 10.65.44.16 with SMTP id w16mr1013923qbj; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.11 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604241656v32d8f248sb43942ef1dbee354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:56:34 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: "Planner Project Manager" Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-Reply-To: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552" References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:44:31 -0000 ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute : > > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > > with anything in my capabilities. > > Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, > translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for > planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, > usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ > > The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml > > The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a > scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating > entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need > translated, put them in separate files by language (something like > en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the > stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. > > -- > Kurt Maute > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack. Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages... Let me take a look at the files, I might figure something out... thanks -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute <kurt@maute.us>:
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote:
> First of = all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.
>
> I am exploring= what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under
> gnu/linux ubuntu= -6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish).
>
> i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all def= ault text in
> english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, u= sing Nvu or
> Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more tha= n one planner
> file are exported or when a file is updated.
>
> I am = wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help
> wi= th anything in my capabilities.

Well, the short answer is that you c= ould edit the stylesheets,
translating the offending English into Spanish.  Search forplanner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed,
= usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/

The others you'll= need to translate are html1*.xml

The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with = a
scheme to make it happen automatically.  I was thinking of c= reating
entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd ne= ed
translated, put them in separate files by language (something like
en.xm= l, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the
stylesh= eet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file.

--
Kurt Maute <
kurt@maute.us>
_______________________________________________
Planner mailing listPlanner@lists.imendio.com
http://li= sts.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner


ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack.

Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages...
Let me take a look at the files, I migh= t figure something out...

thanks

--
salud
carlosdelcampo
http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552-- From 420@rubble.com Wed Apr 26 22:34:20 2006 Return-Path: <420@rubble.com> Received: from thequarry.com (dcn251-5.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.251.5]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D86248C3B9 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:34:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 22460 invoked by uid 501); 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: 420@rubble.com X-X-Sender: rterek@dubious3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:34:20 -0000 Hi Everyone, I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 columns. Is this possible? Thanks! -Bob From kls35@columbia.edu Thu Apr 27 23:40:42 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEE448C22A for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3RLr2Nr016887 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3RLr2CV016884 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:40:42 -0000 hi all, is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) am using the english linux version 0.12.1 of planner, but didn't install it (so don't know if all functions are accessible, and don't yet have access to the root password on this machine). thanks thanks! kirstie From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 03:51:51 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFF048C313 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE00DI0TQZWTOE@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:11 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:51:51 -0000 On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: > is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue > gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on > these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with the tasks in the task tree? -- Kurt Maute From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 04:52:15 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9110248C329 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:52:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE006Q2WJGYZ43@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146193468.3585.52.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:52:15 -0000 On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 13:46 -0700, 420@rubble.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, Hi > I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've > tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. > > I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am > completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I > would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let > the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the > completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use > Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Well, not yet. I added support for FF and SF relationships just recently and it included a function to calculate the start date of a task given the finish date. This function could be used to develop the feature you're describing. FF and SF will be released with v0.14 (or you could compile it now from CVS). What you could do, is set a milestone at the end of the project, and work your way back in time by using SF relationships. Keep in mind that it won't let any task be scheduled prior to the project start date, so you might need to change that. > Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property > sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses > defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I > can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Its a current limitation. I'd like to make the columns more user configurable in the future. > Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". > I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 > columns. Is this possible? The headings change as you zoom in or out, but there's no combination that shows the month and days together. -- Kurt Maute From kls35@columbia.edu Fri Apr 28 16:32:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3EB48C35C for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:32:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3SEj9rw013558 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3SEj4bE013543 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Subject: Re2: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-Reply-To: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> Message-ID: References: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:32:46 -0000 > Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? > To: Planner Project Manager > Message-ID: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: >> is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue >> gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on >> these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) > > I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with > the tasks in the task tree? > > -- > Kurt Maute > hi kurt! the chart does line up with the tasks in the task tree, but having to look back and forth impedes my ability to concentrate on how to optimize the integration of the various tasks. this could simply be because i've never utilised a tool of this kind until yesterday & am not used to using it. in any event, if there are enough debugging fires to put out, this seems fairly low priority, since i can just print them out & write on them! kirstie ps i'm getting the daily digest at this time; my replies will be tardy. From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 03:54:55 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CE248C349 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 03:54:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXB00HMBXSWL910@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 From: James White To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-id: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)" Subject: [Planner] Help files? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:54:55 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance. Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation. Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good.  But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance.

Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes.  I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation.

Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me?

In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner?

--Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)-- From juhta@ida.liu.se Fri Apr 7 12:35:56 2006 Return-Path: Received: from portofix.ida.liu.se (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CB048C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mina2.ida.liu.se (mina2.ida.liu.se [130.236.176.212]) by portofix.ida.liu.se (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k37AkQKN019979 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-reply-to: planner-request's message of Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:00:02 +0200. <20060407100002.CD5C048C373@kenny.imendio.com> X-image-url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/gif/juha.gif X-Url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:26 +0200 From: Juha Takkinen X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/1380/Fri Apr 7 08:46:22 2006 on portofix.ida.liu.se X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=0.00 required=5.00 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:35:56 -0000 > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? Here's one good source: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ Best regards, /J -- Juha Takkinen PhD http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta Linkopings universitet E-mail disclaimer: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/e-mail_disclaimer.txt From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 12:42:47 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F848C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:42:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476D11E90; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18040-02; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5DF138AB; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4436449C.4080509@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:16 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] Help files? References: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> In-Reply-To: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:42:47 -0000 Hi¸ James White skrev: > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? That sounds like a bug with your distro or installation. It works in ubuntu at least :) /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 13:11:23 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C69248C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXC00H6QNK6VV90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:41 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) In-reply-to: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144408902.390.5.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)" References: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:11:23 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J. Looks good. I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner. The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough. The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit. After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems. For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3 The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe. I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem. James On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote: > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > Here's one good source: > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ > > > Best regards, > > /J --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J.  Looks good.

I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner.  The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough.  The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit.

After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems.

For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3  The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe.  I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem.

James

On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote:
> In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? 

Here's one good source:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/


Best regards,

/J
--Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)-- From mk362@mch.osram.de Fri Apr 7 13:48:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from news.osram.de (news.osram.de [62.206.58.225]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA0448C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mch.osram.de (root@feihp11.mch.osram.de [172.21.56.25]) by news.osram.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26662 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:05:53 GMT Received: from flmpc21.mch.osram.de (flmpc21 [172.21.56.180]) by mch.osram.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k37Bx2Eb019628 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:02 +0200 (METDST) Received: by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B870A17AF; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A260417A9 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Marko Kaening To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:48:30 -0000 Hi, I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a look at http://www.gantt-solution.com/ It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance to planner, dialog- and output-wise. Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? :) Marko From qheolet@gmail.com Fri Apr 7 14:22:40 2006 Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A575548C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:22:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so155475nzi for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ctp31GtksCkcigTIIBxC1eFtp1EpygqsXB23u2ojXEOrH4pSNqQgHL+mht8eWPf8LPZLzmhV2EnKmv/0rkTZbdVCZMupTBtj386G0TA0z+i6lUCiAyFaU5a5QOFN1VL2tvypIfK/59jw2leO3vtO//VvyrQFIc30O0ry8CesEsU= Received: by 10.64.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr440539qbf; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.163.14 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:33:12 -0400 From: "juan carlos duran" To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-Reply-To: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> Subject: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:22:40 -0000 I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack and the have the time enough to learn) On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com wrote: > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > planner@lists.imendio.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > From: James White > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a97= 4c90/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > ************************************** > -- -- Juan Carlos Duran From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 14:48:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts43.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.110]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B7A48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407125850.RAVH4713.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:17 -0000 Ummm? Very interesting. I wonder too. Marco, I really like the idea of linking mind mapping to a WBS. It would be great in a more intuitive working environment. And since we are talking about similarities ... it would be nice to see a column next to the WBS column where links could be added - much like M$ Indicators column. Cheers, Michael Kelly Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 14:53:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4448C370 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB1138AB for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20109-04 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B2711E90 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44366323.3040902@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:03:31 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:02 -0000 Hi, I think it's more likely that both of those look like MS Project (at least that where planners predecessor mrproject got its look from). /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 15:02:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0F48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:02:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407131259.KMOR28586.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:02:26 -0000 Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has almost been copied verbatim. The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an add on. http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Anyway, just a thought. Michael Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From friends@asktoby.com Sat Apr 8 12:26:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF4748C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:26:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B738D4744B for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.210]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 62E423F7C; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: gNOhNSpQyR1zXDgFgK6Rp1L4may67s4OoXQXpJcJNzkF 1144492628 From: "Toby Newman" To: "Planner Project Manager" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 5022 (F2.72; T1.15; A1.62; B3.04; Q3.03) References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-Reply-To: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:37:08 +0100 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:26:46 -0000 FYI There is also another OSS mindmapper: Kdissert (part of KDE). On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400, "Michael Kelly" said: > Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has > almost been copied verbatim. > > The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a > way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an > add on. > > http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Anyway, just a thought. > > Michael > > > > Marko Kaening wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a > >look at > > > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > > > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance > >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > > > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? > >:) > > > >Marko > >_______________________________________________ > >Planner mailing list > >Planner@lists.imendio.com > >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > From james@resolutionit.ca Sat Apr 8 15:22:12 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB5448C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:22:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE00KK3OAM0EC0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:45 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)" References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:13 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like: * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link * see all of the menu items on a single screen. * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going to require database storage. * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work. * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party? James Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately.

For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning.  But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager.  For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like:
  • drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list
  • context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link
  • see all of the menu items on a single screen.
  • hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list
  • have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going  to require database storage.
  • the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple
  • resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for
  • project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work.
  • plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools
The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable).  I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings.

I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager.  Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition.  Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party?

James
Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)-- From kurt@maute.us Sat Apr 8 15:46:28 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.205]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7935B48C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:46:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE008CZPF612PO@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:06 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> To: Planner Project Manager , james@resolutionit.ca Message-id: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:46:28 -0000 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 09:32 -0400, James White wrote: > Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. > > For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is > lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project > manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things > like: > * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list > * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing > link > * see all of the menu items on a single screen. > * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the > list > * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects > concurrently - which is going to require database storage. > * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple > * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop > and onsite, for example) and still be planned for > * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a > bit more work. > * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools > The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally > someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a > functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). > I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is > faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. > > I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and > better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems > like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be > written by a third-party? I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the 'nice to have' category. However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are important to us. Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. -- Kurt Maute From lincoln.phipps@openmutual.net Sat Apr 8 21:29:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED1B48C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 20110 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2006 19:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.80.47?) (hassanphipps@btinternet.com@213.122.80.47 with plain) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2006 19:39:41 -0000 Message-ID: <44381176.10709@openmutual.net> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:39:34 +0200 From: Lincoln Phipps User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> In-Reply-To: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:29:02 -0000 > > I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic > functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my > time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the > 'nice to have' category. > > > However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a > mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open > source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are > important to us. > > Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an > import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml > format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to > transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. > Ah it does ! - the Freemind software (version 0.8.0 which I use on a Windows machine) creates an XML file format. Not fully impossible thus to do a bit of XSL to a Planner format, inserting appropriate fields where they would seem to fit within Planner. They do provide some XSL files for freemind -> HTML and other examples. The cascade of nodes within Freemind (or rather mindmaps) is similar to the summary/tasks within a Project planner WBS. I actually like how Freemind kind of works as it does allow you to quickly throw in a lot of ideas and then clean them up. I use Freemind for planning the outlines of documents (it exports to HTML so I then import to OOWriter which works quite OK in OpenOffice 2.0). I then edit the document properly and ignore the mindmap outline. The same procedure *may* also work for some people with projects i.e. plan the outline in Freemind, have everyone agree the outline, and then import into Planner for the day-2-day project manager work on the project and again discard the mindmap outline. I actually do know of someone in my previous company that used Mindmaps for just about all his outlines but he then go project managers to turn that into MS Project plans. I can't volunteer right yet though I did do the Export As Planner 0.11 code so I am interested as it is an Import function which would be fun to try. Regards, Lincoln. From tomas.eroles@wanadoo.es Mon Apr 10 23:30:22 2006 Return-Path: Received: from linux.site (81-203-37-151.user.ono.com [81.203.37.151]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EA48C350 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by linux.site (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8EC86A0D8; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Eroles i Forner To: Planner Project Manager In-Reply-To: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:30:23 -0000 Hola Juan Carlos. Hace unos tres a=C3=B1os traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todav=C3=ADa = era MrProject, pero no llegu=C3=A9 a publicarlo porque ten=C3=ADa que pasarlo a DocBook y no sab=C3=ADa como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareci=C3=B3 Planner, acab=C3=A9 la asignatura para la cual hab=C3=ADa traducido el manu= al y guard=C3=A9 el documento por vete t=C3=BA a saber que CD. Si te interesa d=C3=ADmelo y te buscar=C3=A9 el documento (para el fin de s= emana podr=C3=ADa tenerlo, est=C3=A1 en formato open office 1.x) y as=C3=AD podem= os acabar de traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. Un saludo El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribi=C3=B3: > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. >=20 > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > and the have the time enough to learn) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com > wrote: > > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > > planner@lists.imendio.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > > From: James White > > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > > hasn't corrected the situation. > > > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a= 974c90/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Planner mailing list > > Planner@lists.imendio.com > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > > ************************************** > > >=20 >=20 > -- > -- > Juan Carlos Duran > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 11 14:41:04 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.201]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3F48C35A for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXK002QR6EMU8I0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 In-reply-to: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144759918.3055.30.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:41:04 -0000 On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 23:44 +0200, Tomàs Eroles i Forner wrote: > Hola Juan Carlos. > Hace unos tres años traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todavía era > MrProject, pero no llegué a publicarlo porque tenía que pasarlo a > DocBook y no sabía como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareció > Planner, acabé la asignatura para la cual había traducido el manual y > guardé el documento por vete tú a saber que CD. > Si te interesa dímelo y te buscaré el documento (para el fin de semana > podría tenerlo, está en formato open office 1.x) y así podemos acabar de > traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. > > Un saludo > > El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribió: > > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. > > > > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > > and the have the time enough to learn) We actually have a Spanish translation of the user guide created by Jordan Arribas Aranda. Filename: planner/docs/user-guide/es/planner.xml -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Sun Apr 23 20:41:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.231]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33648C373 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so747813wra for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XPdntoWB/3rpwysifkeGODmbHJIk++h2FxosXueDjDNp28LRRlQoju8GaVpklhMGoFp5Ex47xSmVCD1tD/PvthvSNm7HqrDsKerEs3pexez1uMQo7KGHlMFIEs6sZszAMTewh2ZWJdv1WcyRqc0t+t8/R2X5njhTWvdk9DYQtdY= Received: by 10.64.143.3 with SMTP id q3mr1325467qbd; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.20 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:53:23 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: planner@lists.imendio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831" Subject: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:41:26 -0000 ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner file are exported or when a file is updated. I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help with anything in my capabilities. thanks again -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.

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http:/= /huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831-- From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 25 01:20:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215AA48C349 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IY900AV92P1RO20@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:49 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-reply-to: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:20:17 -0000 On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > with anything in my capabilities. Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need translated, put them in separate files by language (something like en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Tue Apr 25 01:44:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.233]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2448C370 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:44:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so1021001wra for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=io3kEu4ObZJvgKCbjruT5skuxET8vQq7WSoGwpPcOUxDy8bnSuExPNTfFFmv6g3DG7TQx0P16hunrY8ywAx1FDbbU5UGzrCcpn7DqGyPNbySxts0ZQNWa+oeIYNVlZFScWm4Tle011R43/hH6HMrveuYgX0d5lbZP5NxDfyLQPI= Received: by 10.65.44.16 with SMTP id w16mr1013923qbj; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.11 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604241656v32d8f248sb43942ef1dbee354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:56:34 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: "Planner Project Manager" Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-Reply-To: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552" References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:44:31 -0000 ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute : > > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > > with anything in my capabilities. > > Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, > translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for > planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, > usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ > > The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml > > The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a > scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating > entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need > translated, put them in separate files by language (something like > en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the > stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. > > -- > Kurt Maute > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack. Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages... Let me take a look at the files, I might figure something out... thanks -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute <kurt@maute.us>:
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote:
> First of = all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.
>
> I am exploring= what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under
> gnu/linux ubuntu= -6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish).
>
> i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all def= ault text in
> english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, u= sing Nvu or
> Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more tha= n one planner
> file are exported or when a file is updated.
>
> I am = wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help
> wi= th anything in my capabilities.

Well, the short answer is that you c= ould edit the stylesheets,
translating the offending English into Spanish.  Search forplanner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed,
= usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/

The others you'll= need to translate are html1*.xml

The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with = a
scheme to make it happen automatically.  I was thinking of c= reating
entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd ne= ed
translated, put them in separate files by language (something like
en.xm= l, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the
stylesh= eet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file.

--
Kurt Maute <
kurt@maute.us>
_______________________________________________
Planner mailing listPlanner@lists.imendio.com
http://li= sts.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner


ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack.

Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages...
Let me take a look at the files, I migh= t figure something out...

thanks

--
salud
carlosdelcampo
http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552-- From 420@rubble.com Wed Apr 26 22:34:20 2006 Return-Path: <420@rubble.com> Received: from thequarry.com (dcn251-5.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.251.5]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D86248C3B9 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:34:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 22460 invoked by uid 501); 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: 420@rubble.com X-X-Sender: rterek@dubious3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:34:20 -0000 Hi Everyone, I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 columns. Is this possible? Thanks! -Bob From kls35@columbia.edu Thu Apr 27 23:40:42 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEE448C22A for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3RLr2Nr016887 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3RLr2CV016884 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:40:42 -0000 hi all, is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) am using the english linux version 0.12.1 of planner, but didn't install it (so don't know if all functions are accessible, and don't yet have access to the root password on this machine). thanks thanks! kirstie From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 03:51:51 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFF048C313 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE00DI0TQZWTOE@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:11 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:51:51 -0000 On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: > is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue > gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on > these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with the tasks in the task tree? -- Kurt Maute From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 04:52:15 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9110248C329 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:52:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE006Q2WJGYZ43@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146193468.3585.52.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:52:15 -0000 On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 13:46 -0700, 420@rubble.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, Hi > I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've > tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. > > I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am > completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I > would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let > the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the > completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use > Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Well, not yet. I added support for FF and SF relationships just recently and it included a function to calculate the start date of a task given the finish date. This function could be used to develop the feature you're describing. FF and SF will be released with v0.14 (or you could compile it now from CVS). What you could do, is set a milestone at the end of the project, and work your way back in time by using SF relationships. Keep in mind that it won't let any task be scheduled prior to the project start date, so you might need to change that. > Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property > sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses > defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I > can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Its a current limitation. I'd like to make the columns more user configurable in the future. > Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". > I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 > columns. Is this possible? The headings change as you zoom in or out, but there's no combination that shows the month and days together. -- Kurt Maute From kls35@columbia.edu Fri Apr 28 16:32:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3EB48C35C for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:32:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3SEj9rw013558 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3SEj4bE013543 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Subject: Re2: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-Reply-To: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> Message-ID: References: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:32:46 -0000 > Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? > To: Planner Project Manager > Message-ID: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: >> is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue >> gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on >> these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) > > I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with > the tasks in the task tree? > > -- > Kurt Maute > hi kurt! the chart does line up with the tasks in the task tree, but having to look back and forth impedes my ability to concentrate on how to optimize the integration of the various tasks. this could simply be because i've never utilised a tool of this kind until yesterday & am not used to using it. in any event, if there are enough debugging fires to put out, this seems fairly low priority, since i can just print them out & write on them! kirstie ps i'm getting the daily digest at this time; my replies will be tardy. From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 03:54:55 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CE248C349 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 03:54:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXB00HMBXSWL910@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 From: James White To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-id: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)" Subject: [Planner] Help files? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:54:55 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance. Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation. Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? --Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good.  But I'm not familiar with USING a planner so I need some guidance.

Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors and closes.  I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that hasn't corrected the situation.

Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me?

In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner?

--Boundary_(ID_JjTU5cVQKug9eC7+4h9SGw)-- From juhta@ida.liu.se Fri Apr 7 12:35:56 2006 Return-Path: Received: from portofix.ida.liu.se (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CB048C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mina2.ida.liu.se (mina2.ida.liu.se [130.236.176.212]) by portofix.ida.liu.se (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k37AkQKN019979 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-reply-to: planner-request's message of Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:00:02 +0200. <20060407100002.CD5C048C373@kenny.imendio.com> X-image-url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/gif/juha.gif X-Url: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:26 +0200 From: Juha Takkinen X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/1380/Fri Apr 7 08:46:22 2006 on portofix.ida.liu.se X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (portofix.ida.liu.se [130.236.177.25]); Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:46:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=0.00 required=5.00 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:35:56 -0000 > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? Here's one good source: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ Best regards, /J -- Juha Takkinen PhD http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta Linkopings universitet E-mail disclaimer: http://www.ida.liu.se/~juhta/e-mail_disclaimer.txt From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 12:42:47 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F848C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:42:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476D11E90; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18040-02; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5DF138AB; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4436449C.4080509@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:16 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] Help files? References: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> In-Reply-To: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:42:47 -0000 Hi¸ James White skrev: > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? That sounds like a bug with your distro or installation. It works in ubuntu at least :) /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From james@resolutionit.ca Fri Apr 7 13:11:23 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C69248C36C for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXC00H6QNK6VV90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:21:41 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Help files? (was: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 ) In-reply-to: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144408902.390.5.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)" References: <200604071046.k37AkQKN019979@portofix.ida.liu.se> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:11:23 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J. Looks good. I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner. The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough. The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit. After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems. For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3 The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe. I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem. James On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote: > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > Here's one good source: > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/ > > > Best regards, > > /J --Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thx J.  Looks good.

I also noticed that my help files are not working in Gnumeric... so I realized that this likely has nothing to do with imendio planner.  The error from Planner said that it had problems with the gnome-help, which didn't tell me enough.  The Gnumeric error however was a bit more specific and targeted yelp as the culprit.

After reinstalling yelp, both Gnumeric and Planner can now access their respective help systems.

For the record, my distro is Gentoo and I am using Gnome 2.12.3  The Yelp installer is part of the Gnome package I believe.  I will check in the Gentoo forum to see if others are experiencing the same problem.

James

On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 12:46 +0200, Juha Takkinen wrote:
> In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? 

Here's one good source:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/009jul05/features/planner/


Best regards,

/J
--Boundary_(ID_4t4Q9ZtkNO6tHqa+EXeWXA)-- From mk362@mch.osram.de Fri Apr 7 13:48:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from news.osram.de (news.osram.de [62.206.58.225]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA0448C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mch.osram.de (root@feihp11.mch.osram.de [172.21.56.25]) by news.osram.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26662 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:05:53 GMT Received: from flmpc21.mch.osram.de (flmpc21 [172.21.56.180]) by mch.osram.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k37Bx2Eb019628 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:02 +0200 (METDST) Received: by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B870A17AF; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flmpc21.mch.osram.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A260417A9 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:59:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Marko Kaening To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:48:30 -0000 Hi, I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a look at http://www.gantt-solution.com/ It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance to planner, dialog- and output-wise. Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? :) Marko From qheolet@gmail.com Fri Apr 7 14:22:40 2006 Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A575548C36F for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:22:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so155475nzi for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ctp31GtksCkcigTIIBxC1eFtp1EpygqsXB23u2ojXEOrH4pSNqQgHL+mht8eWPf8LPZLzmhV2EnKmv/0rkTZbdVCZMupTBtj386G0TA0z+i6lUCiAyFaU5a5QOFN1VL2tvypIfK/59jw2leO3vtO//VvyrQFIc30O0ry8CesEsU= Received: by 10.64.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr440539qbf; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.163.14 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:33:12 -0400 From: "juan carlos duran" To: planner@lists.imendio.com In-Reply-To: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> Subject: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:22:40 -0000 I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack and the have the time enough to learn) On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com wrote: > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > planner@lists.imendio.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > From: James White > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > hasn't corrected the situation. > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a97= 4c90/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > ************************************** > -- -- Juan Carlos Duran From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 14:48:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts43.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.110]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B7A48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407125850.RAVH4713.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:58:50 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:48:17 -0000 Ummm? Very interesting. I wonder too. Marco, I really like the idea of linking mind mapping to a WBS. It would be great in a more intuitive working environment. And since we are talking about similarities ... it would be nice to see a column next to the WBS column where links could be added - much like M$ Indicators column. Cheers, Michael Kelly Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From richard@imendio.com Fri Apr 7 14:53:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from holken.mikan.net (holken.mikan.net [83.145.56.183]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4448C370 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB1138AB for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holken.mikan.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (holken.mikan.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20109-04 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.4] (c83-248-134-21.bredband.comhem.se [83.248.134.21]) by holken.mikan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B2711E90 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44366323.3040902@imendio.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:03:31 +0200 From: Richard Hult Organization: Imendio AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <4436620A.2080103@sympatico.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at holken.mikan.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 tagged_above=-999.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:53:02 -0000 Hi, I think it's more likely that both of those look like MS Project (at least that where planners predecessor mrproject got its look from). /Richard -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com/ From migashco@sympatico.ca Fri Apr 7 15:02:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0F48C323 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:02:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([69.159.4.74]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060407131259.KMOR28586.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400 From: Michael Kelly User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:02:26 -0000 Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has almost been copied verbatim. The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an add on. http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Anyway, just a thought. Michael Marko Kaening wrote: >Hi, > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a >look at > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? >:) > >Marko >_______________________________________________ >Planner mailing list >Planner@lists.imendio.com >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > From friends@asktoby.com Sat Apr 8 12:26:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF4748C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:26:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from frontend2.internal (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B738D4744B for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.210]) by frontend2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 Received: by web1.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 62E423F7C; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: gNOhNSpQyR1zXDgFgK6Rp1L4may67s4OoXQXpJcJNzkF 1144492628 From: "Toby Newman" To: "Planner Project Manager" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 5022 (F2.72; T1.15; A1.62; B3.04; Q3.03) References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-Reply-To: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:37:08 +0100 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:26:46 -0000 FYI There is also another OSS mindmapper: Kdissert (part of KDE). On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:12:59 -0400, "Michael Kelly" said: > Say Marko, you are quite right. Looking a bit deeper I'd say the app has > almost been copied verbatim. > > The Mind Map idea continues to intrigue me. I wonder if there would be a > way of somehow adding FreeMind-type capabilities to Planner ... as an > add on. > > http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Anyway, just a thought. > > Michael > > > > Marko Kaening wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I use winplanner now quite a while and got a hint by a colleague to have a > >look at > > > > http://www.gantt-solution.com/ > > > >It turns out that the adverised JCVGantt is VERY similar in its appearance > >to planner, dialog- and output-wise. > > > >Did the planner programmers get their ideas from there or vice versa?? > >:) > > > >Marko > >_______________________________________________ > >Planner mailing list > >Planner@lists.imendio.com > >http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > From james@resolutionit.ca Sat Apr 8 15:22:12 2006 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB5448C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:22:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thorn ([66.130.151.200]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE00KK3OAM0EC0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:32:45 -0400 From: James White Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> Organization: Resolution I.T., Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)" References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@resolutionit.ca, Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:22:13 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like: * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link * see all of the menu items on a single screen. * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going to require database storage. * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work. * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party? James Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately.

For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning.  But there is lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project manager.  For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things like:
  • drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list
  • context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing link
  • see all of the menu items on a single screen.
  • hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the list
  • have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects concurrently - which is going  to require database storage.
  • the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple
  • resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop and onsite, for example) and still be planned for
  • project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a bit more work.
  • plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools
The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable).  I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings.

I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and better planner and project manager.  Mind Mapping is fun, but seems like a real tangential addition.  Perhaps more of a plug-in to be written by a third-party?

James
Montreal, Canada --Boundary_(ID_BDdkrjg1OlIJTR2Q+M+YHg)-- From kurt@maute.us Sat Apr 8 15:46:28 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.205]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7935B48C38F for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:46:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXE008CZPF612PO@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:57:06 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt In-reply-to: <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> To: Planner Project Manager , james@resolutionit.ca Message-id: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:46:28 -0000 On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 09:32 -0400, James White wrote: > Lots of talk about Mind Mapping lately. > > For me, I just want to see the planner do more planning. But there is > lots of work to do yet to make our planner into a complete project > manager. For starters, we might concentrate on more mundane things > like: > * drag and drop tasks to move them higher or lower in the list > * context menu access to links - to move or remove an existing > link > * see all of the menu items on a single screen. > * hot-keys for simple actions like moving a task up and down the > list > * have a resource be planned for in TWO or more projects > concurrently - which is going to require database storage. > * the option of mySQL storage - it is ubiquitous and simple > * resource may have TWO or more hourly rates, or "roles" (shop > and onsite, for example) and still be planned for > * project costing - we are SO CLOSE already... we just need a > bit more work. > * plugin API for third-party reporting (or mind-mapping) tools > The planner is coming along nicely and I am grateful that finally > someone in the Linux/Open-Source world has provided us with a > functional planner (none of the rest are so functional or reliable). > I am grateful to see that it is being developed for Gnome - and so is > faster by orders of magnitude than QT or Microsoft offerings. > > I want to encourage the devs to make the planner into a better and > better planner and project manager. Mind Mapping is fun, but seems > like a real tangential addition. Perhaps more of a plug-in to be > written by a third-party? I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the 'nice to have' category. However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are important to us. Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. -- Kurt Maute From lincoln.phipps@openmutual.net Sat Apr 8 21:29:02 2006 Return-Path: Received: from smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED1B48C328 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 20110 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2006 19:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?213.122.80.47?) (hassanphipps@btinternet.com@213.122.80.47 with plain) by smtp813.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2006 19:39:41 -0000 Message-ID: <44381176.10709@openmutual.net> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:39:34 +0200 From: Lincoln Phipps User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Planner Project Manager Subject: Re: [Planner] similarities with JCVGantt References: <4436655B.10508@sympatico.ca> <1144492628.8746.258621422@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1144503165.17377.53.camel@thorn> <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> In-Reply-To: <1144504626.3055.19.camel@dori> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:29:02 -0000 > > I agree - well, mostly. Planner needs to concentrate on the basic > functions of project management. This is where I plan to concentrate my > time. Integration with mind mapping is in my opinion very much in the > 'nice to have' category. > > > However, if someone wants to take the time and work on integrating a > mind mapping tool - then great! This is the great thing about open > source - right? We can all work on the tool and add features that are > important to us. > > Another approach to this mind mapping thought would be to develop an > import for it. If one of these tools saves the mind map in an xml > format, it should be relatively simple to write a stylesheet to > transform it to planner format, and add an import menu item for it. > Ah it does ! - the Freemind software (version 0.8.0 which I use on a Windows machine) creates an XML file format. Not fully impossible thus to do a bit of XSL to a Planner format, inserting appropriate fields where they would seem to fit within Planner. They do provide some XSL files for freemind -> HTML and other examples. The cascade of nodes within Freemind (or rather mindmaps) is similar to the summary/tasks within a Project planner WBS. I actually like how Freemind kind of works as it does allow you to quickly throw in a lot of ideas and then clean them up. I use Freemind for planning the outlines of documents (it exports to HTML so I then import to OOWriter which works quite OK in OpenOffice 2.0). I then edit the document properly and ignore the mindmap outline. The same procedure *may* also work for some people with projects i.e. plan the outline in Freemind, have everyone agree the outline, and then import into Planner for the day-2-day project manager work on the project and again discard the mindmap outline. I actually do know of someone in my previous company that used Mindmaps for just about all his outlines but he then go project managers to turn that into MS Project plans. I can't volunteer right yet though I did do the Export As Planner 0.11 code so I am interested as it is an Import function which would be fun to try. Regards, Lincoln. From tomas.eroles@wanadoo.es Mon Apr 10 23:30:22 2006 Return-Path: Received: from linux.site (81-203-37-151.user.ono.com [81.203.37.151]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EA48C350 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by linux.site (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8EC86A0D8; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Eroles i Forner To: Planner Project Manager In-Reply-To: <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:44:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:30:23 -0000 Hola Juan Carlos. Hace unos tres a=C3=B1os traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todav=C3=ADa = era MrProject, pero no llegu=C3=A9 a publicarlo porque ten=C3=ADa que pasarlo a DocBook y no sab=C3=ADa como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareci=C3=B3 Planner, acab=C3=A9 la asignatura para la cual hab=C3=ADa traducido el manu= al y guard=C3=A9 el documento por vete t=C3=BA a saber que CD. Si te interesa d=C3=ADmelo y te buscar=C3=A9 el documento (para el fin de s= emana podr=C3=ADa tenerlo, est=C3=A1 en formato open office 1.x) y as=C3=AD podem= os acabar de traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. Un saludo El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribi=C3=B3: > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. >=20 > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > and the have the time enough to learn) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 4/7/06, planner-request@lists.imendio.com > wrote: > > Send Planner mailing list submissions to > > planner@lists.imendio.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > planner-request@lists.imendio.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > planner-owner@lists.imendio.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Planner digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Help files? (James White) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400 > > From: James White > > Subject: [Planner] Help files? > > To: planner@lists.imendio.com > > Message-ID: <1144375520.21175.2.camel@thorn> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > > > I'm exploring v 13 and it's looking good. But I'm not familiar with > > USING a planner so I need some guidance. > > > > Unfortunately, if I click on the "Help" menu item, the app just errors > > and closes. I recompiled with the +doc option (I use Gentoo) but that > > hasn't corrected the situation. > > > > Is this a known issue, or is it just something unique to me? > > > > In any case, where can I find documentation on useage of the planner? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/planner/attachments/20060406/6a= 974c90/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Planner mailing list > > Planner@lists.imendio.com > > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > > > > > > End of Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 > > ************************************** > > >=20 >=20 > -- > -- > Juan Carlos Duran > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 11 14:41:04 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.201]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3F48C35A for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IXK002QR6EMU8I0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Re: Planner Digest, Vol 28, Issue 1 In-reply-to: <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1144759918.3055.30.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <20060407100002.C399E48C372@kenny.imendio.com> <7a2d22eb0604070533u72abd15es622a416eef470e23@mail.gmail.com> <1144705482.10437.7.camel@linux.site> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:41:04 -0000 On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 23:44 +0200, Tomàs Eroles i Forner wrote: > Hola Juan Carlos. > Hace unos tres años traduje el manual de Planner, cuando todavía era > MrProject, pero no llegué a publicarlo porque tenía que pasarlo a > DocBook y no sabía como hacerlo. Al cabo de poco tiempo apareció > Planner, acabé la asignatura para la cual había traducido el manual y > guardé el documento por vete tú a saber que CD. > Si te interesa dímelo y te buscaré el documento (para el fin de semana > podría tenerlo, está en formato open office 1.x) y así podemos acabar de > traducirlo o retorcarlo entre los dos, si te parece bien. > > Un saludo > > El vie, 07-04-2006 a las 08:33 -0400, juan carlos duran escribió: > > I'm From Dominican Republic, i work as industrial engineer i can > > traduce (or build a group) the help files to spanish. > > > > i got few ideas for the planner (the problem i do not know how to hack > > and the have the time enough to learn) We actually have a Spanish translation of the user guide created by Jordan Arribas Aranda. Filename: planner/docs/user-guide/es/planner.xml -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Sun Apr 23 20:41:26 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.231]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33648C373 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so747813wra for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XPdntoWB/3rpwysifkeGODmbHJIk++h2FxosXueDjDNp28LRRlQoju8GaVpklhMGoFp5Ex47xSmVCD1tD/PvthvSNm7HqrDsKerEs3pexez1uMQo7KGHlMFIEs6sZszAMTewh2ZWJdv1WcyRqc0t+t8/R2X5njhTWvdk9DYQtdY= Received: by 10.64.143.3 with SMTP id q3mr1325467qbd; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.20 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:53:23 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: planner@lists.imendio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831" Subject: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:41:26 -0000 ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner file are exported or when a file is updated. I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help with anything in my capabilities. thanks again -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline First of all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.

I am exploring what= planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an = es_mx locales environment (in spanish).

i noticed that it if you exp= ort to html it exports all default text in english. It is not that dificult= to translat by had, using Nvu or Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem= when more than one planner file are exported or when a file is updated.

I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can he= lp with anything in my capabilities.

thanks again
<= br>--
salud
carlosdelcampo
http:/= /huizache.org ------=_Part_40879_25787000.1145818403831-- From kurt@maute.us Tue Apr 25 01:20:17 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215AA48C349 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IY900AV92P1RO20@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:49 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-reply-to: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:20:17 -0000 On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > with anything in my capabilities. Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need translated, put them in separate files by language (something like en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. -- Kurt Maute From huizache@gmail.com Tue Apr 25 01:44:30 2006 Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.233]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2448C370 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:44:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so1021001wra for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=io3kEu4ObZJvgKCbjruT5skuxET8vQq7WSoGwpPcOUxDy8bnSuExPNTfFFmv6g3DG7TQx0P16hunrY8ywAx1FDbbU5UGzrCcpn7DqGyPNbySxts0ZQNWa+oeIYNVlZFScWm4Tle011R43/hH6HMrveuYgX0d5lbZP5NxDfyLQPI= Received: by 10.65.44.16 with SMTP id w16mr1013923qbj; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.243.11 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <799c424e0604241656v32d8f248sb43942ef1dbee354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:56:34 -0500 From: "a la sombra del" To: "Planner Project Manager" Subject: Re: [Planner] exporting as html in other languages In-Reply-To: <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552" References: <799c424e0604231153p434c4d3cx7aebdec2dd188dd5@mail.gmail.com> <1145921509.3213.6.camel@dori> X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:44:31 -0000 ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute : > > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote: > > First of all, excelent work!!!! thank you. > > > > I am exploring what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under > > gnu/linux ubuntu-6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish). > > > > i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all default text in > > english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, using Nvu or > > Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more than one planner > > file are exported or when a file is updated. > > > > I am wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help > > with anything in my capabilities. > > Well, the short answer is that you could edit the stylesheets, > translating the offending English into Spanish. Search for > planner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed, > usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/ > > The others you'll need to translate are html1*.xml > > The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with a > scheme to make it happen automatically. I was thinking of creating > entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd need > translated, put them in separate files by language (something like > en.xml, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the > stylesheet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file. > > -- > Kurt Maute > > _______________________________________________ > Planner mailing list > Planner@lists.imendio.com > http://lists.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner > ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack. Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages... Let me take a look at the files, I might figure something out... thanks -- salud carlosdelcampo http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/4/24, Kurt Maute <kurt@maute.us>:
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 13:53 -0500, a la sombra del wrote:
> First of = all, excelent work!!!!  thank you.
>
> I am exploring= what planner can do, i am using planner0.13 under
> gnu/linux ubuntu= -6.06, in an es_mx locales environment (in spanish).
>
> i noticed that it if you export to html it exports all def= ault text in
> english. It is not that dificult to translat by had, u= sing Nvu or
> Mozilla-Composer, however it is a problem when more tha= n one planner
> file are exported or when a file is updated.
>
> I am = wondering if this could be fixed. Iam no programer, but can help
> wi= th anything in my capabilities.

Well, the short answer is that you c= ould edit the stylesheets,
translating the offending English into Spanish.  Search forplanner2html.xsl, and you'll find the folder where they're installed,
= usually /usr/local/share/planner/data/stylesheets/

The others you'll= need to translate are html1*.xml

The right way to do it is for one of us developers to come up with = a
scheme to make it happen automatically.  I was thinking of c= reating
entities for all of the words/phrases in the html output we'd ne= ed
translated, put them in separate files by language (something like
en.xm= l, es.xml, etc.), then teach Planner to pass the language to the
stylesh= eet and the stylesheet to import the correct language file.

--
Kurt Maute <
kurt@maute.us>
_______________________________________________
Planner mailing listPlanner@lists.imendio.com
http://li= sts.imendio.com/mailman/listinfo/planner


ok Kurt, i can deal with the local hack.

Is there a way i can help with the global solution? i am not a programer bu= t can write in both languages...
Let me take a look at the files, I migh= t figure something out...

thanks

--
salud
carlosdelcampo
http://huizache.org ------=_Part_10165_21097997.1145922994552-- From 420@rubble.com Wed Apr 26 22:34:20 2006 Return-Path: <420@rubble.com> Received: from thequarry.com (dcn251-5.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.251.5]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D86248C3B9 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:34:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 22460 invoked by uid 501); 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: 420@rubble.com X-X-Sender: rterek@dubious3 To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:34:20 -0000 Hi Everyone, I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 columns. Is this possible? Thanks! -Bob From kls35@columbia.edu Thu Apr 27 23:40:42 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEE448C22A for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3RLr2Nr016887 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3RLr2CV016884 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:40:42 -0000 hi all, is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) am using the english linux version 0.12.1 of planner, but didn't install it (so don't know if all functions are accessible, and don't yet have access to the root password on this machine). thanks thanks! kirstie From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 03:51:51 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.203]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFF048C313 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE00DI0TQZWTOE@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:04:11 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:51:51 -0000 On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: > is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue > gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on > these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with the tasks in the task tree? -- Kurt Maute From kurt@maute.us Fri Apr 28 04:52:15 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9110248C329 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:52:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.56] (ool-435223b5.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.35.181]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IYE006Q2WJGYZ43@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for planner@lists.imendio.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:04:28 -0400 From: Kurt Maute Subject: Re: [Planner] Enter Completion date and duration? In-reply-to: To: Planner Project Manager Message-id: <1146193468.3585.52.camel@dori> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:52:15 -0000 On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 13:46 -0700, 420@rubble.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, Hi > I'm new to using planner and have a couple of basic questions. I've > tried to browse through the archives but couldn't spot the answers. > > I need to schedule most of my tasks by completion date as I am > completely date-driven at this point. So for all the tasks I enter I > would simply like to enter the completion date and a duration, and let > the start date be calculated. I'll frequently be adjusting the > completion date because of external factors. Is it possible to use > Planner this way? I can't see how. . . Well, not yet. I added support for FF and SF relationships just recently and it included a function to calculate the start date of a task given the finish date. This function could be used to develop the feature you're describing. FF and SF will be released with v0.14 (or you could compile it now from CVS). What you could do, is set a milestone at the end of the project, and work your way back in time by using SF relationships. Keep in mind that it won't let any task be scheduled prior to the project start date, so you might need to change that. > Also, for every task I enter I seem to have to pop up the property > sheet to change the type of Schedule it is on. And every task uses > defaults that I don't want. How can I change the defaults so that I > can quickly enter tasks and adjust values "in line"? Its a current limitation. I'd like to make the columns more user configurable in the future. > Also, in the Gantt View, the timeline on the top lists "Week X, 2006". > I'd much rather see "April 2006" that serves to label a block of 1-30 > columns. Is this possible? The headings change as you zoom in or out, but there's no combination that shows the month and days together. -- Kurt Maute From kls35@columbia.edu Fri Apr 28 16:32:46 2006 Return-Path: Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (papaya.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.53]) by kenny.imendio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3EB48C35C for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:32:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from papaya.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k3SEj9rw013558 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kls35@localhost) by papaya.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.6/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k3SEj4bE013543 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: papaya.cc.columbia.edu: kls35 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirstie Lynn Stramler Sender: kls35@columbia.edu To: planner@lists.imendio.com Subject: Re2: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? In-Reply-To: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> Message-ID: References: <20060428100003.2561A48C3A8@kenny.imendio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: planner@lists.imendio.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Planner Project Manager List-Id: Planner Project Manager List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:32:46 -0000 > Subject: Re: [Planner] how to annotate gantt charts? > To: Planner Project Manager > Message-ID: <1146189851.3585.1.camel@dori> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:53 -0400, Kirstie Lynn Stramler wrote: >> is it possible to say, superimpose the task and sub-task names on the blue >> gantt chart bars? i'm having difficulty reading the chart w/o labels on >> these bars... it's making me a bit dizzy, in fact. :@) > > I'm wondering why its difficult to read the chart - does it line up with > the tasks in the task tree? > > -- > Kurt Maute > hi kurt! the chart does line up with the tasks in the task tree, but having to look back and forth impedes my ability to concentrate on how to optimize the integration of the various tasks. this could simply be because i've never utilised a tool of this kind until yesterday & am not used to using it. in any event, if there are enough debugging fires to put out, this seems fairly low priority, since i can just print them out & write on them! kirstie ps i'm getting the daily digest at this time; my replies will be tardy.